Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George
Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Katty.
Speaker 2: Armstrong and Jetty and now he Armstrong and Eddy.
Speaker 3: Benny woolweary Ukrainians now, except they're unlikely to retake some
Speaker 3: of the land that Russia's annexed, like Crimea, and Putin's
Speaker 3: un likely to settle without it.
Speaker 2: But Ukraine is going to need meaningful.
Speaker 3: Security guarantees that Putin would break agreements and attack again
Speaker 3: as he has done before for the first time. President
Speaker 3: Joe Biden also I think Ukraine to use long range
Speaker 3: US missiles to strike Russia, A studying change in policies
Speaker 3: a major factor in the decision. US officials say ten
Speaker 3: thousand North Korean troops arriving in Russia to fight alongside
Speaker 3: the Russians.
Speaker 4: He and the reporting today from everyone coming out of
Speaker 4: South Korea that North Korea might be sending one hundred
Speaker 4: thousand troops to Russia, a one hundred thousand, which is
Speaker 4: really something in The New York Times saying today that
Speaker 4: the whole Biden allowing the new weaponry is all about
Speaker 4: shoring up Ukraine before Trump comes in because he's worried
Speaker 4: Trump is going to be, you know, less supportive of Ukraine.
Speaker 4: What kind of theory is that you either support Ukraine?
Speaker 2: Are you not?
Speaker 4: Your timetables shouldn't be based on whether or not Trump's
Speaker 4: coming in.
Speaker 2: I don't get that at all.
Speaker 5: Well, yeah, let's not get starting about the Biden Ford
Speaker 5: and policy in their support for Ukraine. Let's talk to
Speaker 5: military analyst Mike Lyons about this topic and a couple
Speaker 5: of others.
Speaker 2: There's a great deal to discuss. Mike, Hi, how are.
Speaker 6: You hey, Good morning guys. Great to be back with you.
Speaker 4: So well, these attack them weapons now that they can
Speaker 4: fire him into Russia make much difference.
Speaker 7: No, they really won't. It's also, you know, dayly eight
Speaker 7: dollars short. And it just goes to show you that
Speaker 7: this administration has not allowed Ukraine to fight this war.
Speaker 7: They've just tried to manage it. And what we've managed
Speaker 7: is the slow demise and the degradation of Ukraine's military assets.
Speaker 7: We've allowed Ukraine nothing when it comes to going on
Speaker 7: the offensive, and it's allowed Russia to rearm refit itself
Speaker 7: when those times when Ukraine was just trying to seize
Speaker 7: the initiative.
Speaker 6: So at this point to your point before. It has
Speaker 6: to do with trying to trump proof this.
Speaker 7: They're getting as many pieces of equipment I guess to
Speaker 7: Ukraine as possible attackers are just deep artillery fires that
Speaker 7: can go well into Russia. They'll target let's say, airstrips
Speaker 7: and logistic facilities, and they're only allowed to be used
Speaker 7: in the Curse region.
Speaker 6: Once again, I.
Speaker 7: Don't understand either. They've also put that restriction on them
Speaker 7: as well. You still don't see storm shadow from the bridge,
Speaker 7: you still don't see other weapons coming from NATO. So
Speaker 7: the bottom line is it's going to make no difference whatsoever,
Speaker 7: and we're all it's just getting to the point of
Speaker 7: when the trumpetdministration is going to come in and seeing
Speaker 7: what they're going to.
Speaker 2: Do, just out of curiosity, Mike.
Speaker 5: We get the argument via email, text, whatever from folks
Speaker 5: are of the more JD vans Ukraine is not our
Speaker 5: problem philosophy saying hey, we're going to cause World War
Speaker 5: three for something that's not in our strategic interests.
Speaker 2: How do you respond to them?
Speaker 7: I think strategically have to look at this as deterrence
Speaker 7: and as the fact of if you're going by an
Speaker 7: order that says one country can invade its neighbor. But
Speaker 7: we're past that now, four years, three years past that
Speaker 7: time of trying to re establish it. It's going to
Speaker 7: have to be established, you know, quickly. I think it's
Speaker 7: starting to be re established in the Middle East, for example,
Speaker 7: what the Trump administration coming in, going to allow Israel
Speaker 7: to I believe, going to attack Iranian nuclear facility. But no,
Speaker 7: it is our problem, it's Europe's problem. It's something that
Speaker 7: we have to take the lead on and the like.
Speaker 7: I don't think we need to against send American soldiers,
Speaker 7: but we could have supported Ukraine initially from the beginning.
Speaker 7: This drip drip drip of how we've supported them and
Speaker 7: how again, it's been about managing this as opposed to
Speaker 7: letting Ukraine fight the war. So to say that it's
Speaker 7: not necessarily our problem is not really the whole truth.
Speaker 2: I don't think.
Speaker 4: Russia had their worst month of the entire war. This
Speaker 4: past month lost nearly fifteen hundred men a day casualties.
Speaker 4: That's a stunning number. And now the reporting today one
Speaker 4: hundred thousand North Korean troops maybe on the way. How
Speaker 4: do you react all that stuff?
Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't know how one hundred thousand troops are
Speaker 7: going to get there. I mean, it's a long train
Speaker 7: ride from wherever they're coming from. So there's that's a
Speaker 7: pretty big logistical challenge. It would take them months for.
Speaker 6: That to happen.
Speaker 7: But the ones that are there, they could become targeted.
Speaker 7: Let's say those take attackers could be targeting those military
Speaker 7: areas where they think that those troops are going to be,
Speaker 7: and those guys are going to get there and find
Speaker 7: out very quickly that this is the last place in
Speaker 7: the world they want to be.
Speaker 6: So I don't know.
Speaker 7: I think that there's a lot of a lot of
Speaker 7: logistics to still figure out whether how you're going to
Speaker 7: get one hundred thousand troops from, you know, versusly that
Speaker 7: part of the world, from North Korea into Russia in
Speaker 7: a manner and then get them to the battlefield.
Speaker 6: That seems a pretty long long task to get a compus.
Speaker 4: But just in general, the idea of North Korean troops
Speaker 4: using Iranian weapons while Russia is funded by Chinese money,
Speaker 4: that's a lot of countries involved in a war.
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, who had that in their Bengal card for
Speaker 6: this year?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 7: North Korean troops inside of Russia fighting against Ukraine.
Speaker 6: No one did.
Speaker 7: And this is exactly what this Biden administration is allowed
Speaker 7: to happen. It's allowed this access of these allies between
Speaker 7: Russia and China. I think India is now more aligned
Speaker 7: with China than they've ever been before. North Korea, Iran,
Speaker 7: and then the Huthis still as the Russians can still
Speaker 7: fund things that are going on for the Huthis to
Speaker 7: attack Americans.
Speaker 6: So the terrence needs to be re established very quickly.
Speaker 7: In the new Trump administration, I think you're going to
Speaker 7: see them try to do that.
Speaker 6: They'll do it in both ways.
Speaker 7: I think carrot and stick in this way in Ukraine
Speaker 7: in particular, they'll try to do a business deal. I
Speaker 7: think they'll try to convince Russia that they don't want
Speaker 7: to be this vassal state of China. I think that
Speaker 7: deep down that's kind of what's going on right now,
Speaker 7: and Russia precedes itself to be a world power. I
Speaker 7: think I think Donald Trump will try to make a
Speaker 7: deal with the Russians and a business like transaction to
Speaker 7: kind of, you know, kind of pay them off for
Speaker 7: stopping the war and then allow them this latitude to
Speaker 7: potentially become a great world power again, and vladimber Putin
Speaker 7: might go for that.
Speaker 6: We'll see.
Speaker 5: Yeah, studying the frenemy ship of China and Russia through
Speaker 5: the decades is a really interesting thing, and I love
Speaker 5: the idea of trying to drive a wedge as we
Speaker 5: have in the past. But closer to home, Jack, did
Speaker 5: you want to get into the SECT deaf thing?
Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, yeah, yeah, we saw.
Speaker 4: I saw you tweet something in support of people of
Speaker 4: your rank with Exeth being named the candidate for SECT.
Speaker 4: Have you guys had the same rank?
Speaker 7: Yeah, we were retired army major, so I thought that
Speaker 7: was pretty funny there.
Speaker 6: I've met Pete a couple of times.
Speaker 7: I don't know him that well or anything like that,
Speaker 7: but he's a smart guy, disruptive type individual. I think
Speaker 7: once he gets to you know, to the Pentagon, hopefully
Speaker 7: he'd make it there. But he'll bring this perspective of
Speaker 7: I think, being closer to the troops, and I think
Speaker 7: that the general officers talk a good game about it,
Speaker 7: but frankly ours are so far removed of it. They're
Speaker 7: thinking about strategy, and they're thinking about things at such
Speaker 7: a high level. I think right now he's it would
Speaker 7: be an individual that I think would work out well
Speaker 7: from a disruptive capability. You know, Pete Hex that's going
Speaker 7: to go into the Pentagon and put a sign in
Speaker 7: every conference room in the Pentagon that says the priority
Speaker 7: of the militaries to fight and win the nation's wars,
Speaker 7: And every meeting that takes place in that conference room
Speaker 7: is going to say, well, if the if the purpose
Speaker 7: of this meeting is not to accomplish that objective, we're
Speaker 7: not meeting, we're not talking about it. So I think
Speaker 7: you're going to see a lot of things go by
Speaker 7: the wayside. Frankly that this administration has tried to force
Speaker 7: through the military the past four years. They've used the
Speaker 7: military as social reinjeering at something unfortunately Democrats have done
Speaker 7: in the past, as opposed to trying to recognize that
Speaker 7: the military reflects society but then not become an experiment
Speaker 7: for society. So I think I think that he'll look
Speaker 7: to change a lot of those kinds of things.
Speaker 5: I realized this is a really philosophical question, but around
Speaker 5: here we believe that to a large extent, the US
Speaker 5: has become a country that is just too comfortable with
Speaker 5: the status quo. And all agents of change seem like
Speaker 5: dangerous and frightening. Which is not to say if a
Speaker 5: guy's an outright lunatic you need to embrace him because
Speaker 5: he's quote unquote an agent of change.
Speaker 2: But boy, we feel like an overripe fruit to me.
Speaker 5: And I think a change would be welcome at least
Speaker 5: give it a try.
Speaker 7: Yeah, And I'm concerned about, once again our lack of
Speaker 7: creativity of what our enemies can do to us and
Speaker 7: anything from bringing commercial ships along our coastlines and have
Speaker 7: them become trojan horses for missile attacks. There's lots of
Speaker 7: things that I'm not sure that we're really defending where
Speaker 7: we could be falling asleep at the switch in a
Speaker 7: lot of ways. So the but but it takes, it
Speaker 7: takes this change from the top. It's going to take
Speaker 7: the change from Donald Trump on through. There's no question
Speaker 7: when Pete Hegg said, if he gets to the Pentagon,
Speaker 7: it becomes sect deaf. We'll have intention of accomplishing his
Speaker 7: objectives and they'll be they'll be crystal cleared everybody around him.
Speaker 6: You'll know how to act in the absence of any
Speaker 6: kind of guidance.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 6: And so I think that that he'll do that.
Speaker 7: Then Number two, the other thing that we needed that
Speaker 7: he needs to do is budgetary and get get the
Speaker 7: military back online with We've given a lot of equipment
Speaker 7: to Ukraine, We've given a lot of equipment out and
Speaker 7: I think we need we need to go back to
Speaker 7: a little bit of a war footing right now and
Speaker 7: restock some of the things that we've had because we've
Speaker 7: we've been giving it away. I think that's another important
Speaker 7: mission for him to do well.
Speaker 4: So some of the pushback on him is, you know,
Speaker 4: never having run a giant organization like this and who
Speaker 4: has it's the biggest bureaucracy in the world. But like
Speaker 4: if you were given that job, would that be something
Speaker 4: you could figure out?
Speaker 2: Or how do you see that knock on him?
Speaker 7: Well, I think he's going to have to pick subordinates
Speaker 7: that maybe have a little bit of that experience.
Speaker 6: We'll see that.
Speaker 7: That'll be the telling sign is who's who the Deputy
Speaker 7: Secretary of Defenses will be in these different areas.
Speaker 6: They won't be from the swamp.
Speaker 7: I will tell you that there'll be individuals that you know,
Speaker 7: maybe will come from some of the think tanks that
Speaker 7: are out there. Maybe they will come from the retired
Speaker 7: military ranks. I mean he knows, he knows high ranking
Speaker 7: general officers. He does know who they are, and he'll
Speaker 7: he'll pick probably some of them. So it's not just
Speaker 7: going to be him alone, I think, And you're right,
Speaker 7: that's that's the knock on him. But you can argue
Speaker 7: the greatest strength greatest weakness in that regard, so that
Speaker 7: could be something that could that could become to his
Speaker 7: strength as well.
Speaker 2: He won't.
Speaker 7: He's not beholden to anybody. He's not beholden to the
Speaker 7: deustrial military complex.
Speaker 6: He's not beholding anybody. So we'll see how he goes.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I would rather see a fighter and agent of change
Speaker 5: who employs bureaucratic experts than a bureaucratic expert at the
Speaker 5: top who then chooses, you know, people or arguably involved
Speaker 5: in the fighting. Mike, we didn't really get a chance
Speaker 5: to get into China much. They are obviously gearing up
Speaker 5: as fast as they can to take us on, but
Speaker 5: perhaps another day.
Speaker 2: We appreciate the time very much. Thanks sure, guys, thanks
Speaker 2: for ha me yep.
Speaker 4: Of course, boy, that is really something. Zelensky did an
Speaker 4: interview yesterday and he is making all kinds of positive
Speaker 4: noise about Trump taking over as president and his ability
Speaker 4: to wind a war down, everything like that. I don't
Speaker 4: know if that's just recognizing that Trump's the guy now,
Speaker 4: so I.
Speaker 2: Want to be on a good side.
Speaker 5: Yeah, absolutely, Yeah, Trump responds to flattery obviously, and also,
Speaker 5: and Zelensky is smart enough to have discerned this that
Speaker 5: Trump is a tough guy, and if Zelensky can spin it,
Speaker 5: that man does Putent think he can push the US around?
Speaker 2: That's something You're a punk, right, yeah?
Speaker 5: He said Biden punk, which he is, by the way,
Speaker 5: don't say I said that Biden punk. And he thinks
Speaker 5: you're a punk too, mister Trump, what do you say
Speaker 5: to that?
Speaker 4: The economists reporting last week, I didn't get to it
Speaker 4: that Zolensky could be in political trouble next presidential election.
Speaker 4: There's somebody gonna run against him that is very well
Speaker 4: liked in the country, and Zelensky's ratings are down just
Speaker 4: because people are tired of the war.
Speaker 2: Which happens. Oh yeah, I.
Speaker 5: Asked Winston Churchill about that. Yeah, it happens. Yeah, God dang.
Speaker 4: It's gonna be interesting to see how this plays out.
Speaker 4: The idea that the attackers that Biden just gave the
Speaker 4: go ahead won't make any difference is highly troubling. Obviously,
Speaker 4: the idea of North Korean troops by the tens of
Speaker 4: thousands showing up in the war is highly troubling.
Speaker 2: Good lord, I.
Speaker 5: Wonder if that's actually happening or is that a threat?
Speaker 5: You say South Korea is talking about it.
Speaker 4: Huh, they broke the story in every legit news service
Speaker 4: is reporting it today.
Speaker 5: That South Korea is saying it, or that it's actually happening.
Speaker 2: That it is going to happen. It's not happening yet.
Speaker 5: Okay, Yeah, I'm I'm always wary of the comy effect
Speaker 5: where you got that what's it called the circular logic
Speaker 5: or backbiting or what's good for the goose where you
Speaker 5: leak a story and then confirm it in the press.
Speaker 4: Elon Musk with a controversial T shirt at the Big
Speaker 4: Wrestling match at Madison Square Garden, among other things.
Speaker 2: On the Way Stay Tuned, referee Marc.
Speaker 8: Alloy warning Paul not to measure, but he measured him
Speaker 8: and then he hit him with her right along Tyson
Speaker 8: coming forward, but Paul is landing the cleaner effective bunchet
Speaker 8: we got two final minutes. Man Tyson greeding heavily as
Speaker 8: he makes his way back to the corner.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because he's old. I think that was like.
Speaker 4: Round two where he was breathing so heavily. He walked
Speaker 4: like an old man man the first after the first round,
Speaker 4: he walked like an old man back to the stool,
Speaker 4: sat down, wide, eye was just his chest was just heaving.
Speaker 4: I thought, oh my god, if you're this tired after
Speaker 4: the first two minutes, did you actually train or is
Speaker 4: this just the problem with being your age or what?
Speaker 2: I don't know, little of both.
Speaker 5: Anybody who's ever seen a fight or been in a
Speaker 5: fight knows it's tiring and in a hurry.
Speaker 4: And what was the deal with the announcer was like
Speaker 4: way over the top in terms of trying to make jokes.
Speaker 4: Then you got Roy Jones Junior, who's a real boxer,
Speaker 4: kept saying.
Speaker 2: I don't like his legs. I don't like it.
Speaker 4: I don't like his legs because like Tyson is shuffled
Speaker 4: around like an old man out there. And then and
Speaker 4: then Rosie Prez as the other color person, Rosie Perez,
Speaker 4: who everybody wants for the big boxing matches for some reason.
Speaker 4: I don't know what that was starlet of the early nineties. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I don't know what the heck that was. Sixty one
Speaker 4: million people watched the fight on Friday night. That is
Speaker 4: a crazy number in the modern era where you know,
Speaker 4: the Grammys gets eighteen, the Oscars gets twenty. I mean,
Speaker 4: that's just an insane number. Uh. And you know, if
Speaker 4: you were watching it, you know how the whole Netflix
Speaker 4: thing was just not working.
Speaker 2: It was buffering or he couldn't log on at all.
Speaker 4: And I got texts from everybody I knew, like, is
Speaker 4: you're working on your TV? No?
Speaker 9: Not?
Speaker 4: And then I went on Twitter and the whole country
Speaker 4: was going nuts over and the CEO of Twitter put
Speaker 4: out a statement Saturday night and said, well, it looks
Speaker 4: like the crowd was so big it had our buffer
Speaker 4: system on the ropes, cool boxing joke. Everybody was pissed off.
Speaker 4: It's not like you had to It's not like pay
Speaker 4: per view where you paid for it. Be did pay
Speaker 4: for it with your time and you know, scheduled your
Speaker 4: night around it like lots of us did.
Speaker 2: Well, if you have.
Speaker 5: A TV channel that doesn't show the TV show, that's
Speaker 5: not a very good TV channel.
Speaker 2: And I thought, geezu.
Speaker 4: And they kept running promos for their NFL because they're
Speaker 4: gonna have NFL games on Netflix live streaming on Christmas Day,
Speaker 4: some big games chiefs game, and I thought, this is
Speaker 4: not a good advertisement for your big NFL game unless
Speaker 4: you get a much better server.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, wow. So what did you think of the
Speaker 2: main debacle?
Speaker 4: I mean, event, if I was going to talk about boxing,
Speaker 4: i'd talk about that fight before. And that's what me
Speaker 4: and all my friends who saw that, the fight right
Speaker 4: before the championship fight with the best female fighter in
Speaker 4: the world. That was one of the best boxing matches
Speaker 4: I've ever seen in my life. But it was so bloody.
Speaker 4: And this is the first time I've watched boxing in
Speaker 4: four K. That's gruesome. When I was a kid watching
Speaker 4: Muhammad Ali, if there was a cut, you couldn't like
Speaker 4: see into their head in the way. I mean, it
Speaker 4: wasn't like looking at a cut like you know you
Speaker 4: do in real life. It was just it was so
Speaker 4: that chick's forehead split open. My son didn't even look
Speaker 4: at it on our TV eight and oh that.
Speaker 2: Was oh so much blood old.
Speaker 5: Being beaten by the young women punching each other in
Speaker 5: the face.
Speaker 2: That's that's great.
Speaker 4: That's a little super little Roman empire ish you think
Speaker 4: on a Friday night. Well, that's two women bloodied each other.
Speaker 4: Now let's watch the old man get beat up. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 4: little Roman Empire.
Speaker 2: What daddy? No lions? Sorry, Sonstrong.
Speaker 4: And I'm just trying to take in, uh, you know,
Speaker 4: media over the last several days, including today, the.
Speaker 2: The how fired up people are about RFK Junior. Why
Speaker 2: is that such a why is that such a lightning
Speaker 2: rod point? What is it about that? I don't know.
Speaker 5: As opposed to other controversial figures there would be cabinet members.
Speaker 9: Right.
Speaker 4: Gates, I get attorney general, and the fact that he
Speaker 4: might have had sex with a high school girl.
Speaker 5: Maybe it's that there's an argument to be made in
Speaker 5: favor of RFK Junior and it's pretty good.
Speaker 2: And in my opinion, the art the arguments against him
Speaker 2: are pretty good too. Well.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we talked about this last week. He is a
Speaker 4: abortion up until birth guy and always has been.
Speaker 2: So that's interesting.
Speaker 4: It's a it's a he's got a horrible personal life.
Speaker 4: His first wife killed herself because of all of his affairs,
Speaker 4: so I know.
Speaker 2: But anyway, there's the whole COVID.
Speaker 5: He hinted it it was targeting whites and blacks for
Speaker 5: the benefit of Jews and Chinese, right right, that's.
Speaker 2: A little uncomfortable, it's a little wacky.
Speaker 5: Well, I don't know if you watch Morning Joe featuring
Speaker 5: Neville Scarborough Chamberlain who's just recently gone to beg for
Speaker 5: Hitler's approval and his wife Mika.
Speaker 2: Now good nick hmm.
Speaker 5: They flew down to mar A Lago to meet with
Speaker 5: the big guy and are getting hammered for it for
Speaker 5: good reason.
Speaker 4: So in case you don't know this, and you shouldn't,
Speaker 4: you probably don't watch him. It shouldn't bec in the morning,
Speaker 4: And why freaking would you. But the hosts who used
Speaker 4: to just be co hosts, then they had an affair
Speaker 4: and dumped their spouses and married each other. But now
Speaker 4: they're married, Joe Scarborough and Mika Brasinski, and they had
Speaker 4: Trump on all the time when he first announced back
Speaker 4: in twenty fifteen, they were old friends.
Speaker 2: Then it went south and then he out of their.
Speaker 4: Affair and put out some stuff about Joe Scarborough being
Speaker 4: responsible for the death of his intern and all kinds
Speaker 4: of stuff that really turned the morning show on MSNBC
Speaker 4: against Trump, and they've hated him so much, and it's
Speaker 4: been the only story they talk about now for eight
Speaker 4: years is how awful Trump is and he's hitler. But
Speaker 4: for whatever reason, they went down to mar A Lago
Speaker 4: and talked to them over the over the weekend, and
Speaker 4: here's a little bit of that conversation from this morning.
Speaker 1: Joe and I went to mar A Lago to meet
Speaker 1: personally with President like Trump.
Speaker 2: What we did agree on was.
Speaker 1: To restart communications. And for those asking why we would
Speaker 1: go speak to the President elect during such fraught times,
Speaker 1: especially between us, I guess I would ask back, why
Speaker 1: wouldn't we?
Speaker 9: And it's going to come as no surprise to anybody
Speaker 9: who watches this show, has watched it over the past
Speaker 9: year or over the past decade, that we didn't see
Speaker 9: eye to eye on a lot of issues, and we
Speaker 9: told him so.
Speaker 1: Joe and I realized it's time to do something different,
Speaker 1: and that starts with not only talking about Donald Trump,
Speaker 1: but also talking with him.
Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, you've lost half your viewers. I didn't realize
Speaker 5: being hitler is an issue. Among the issues we're prepared
Speaker 5: to discuss is you're hitler.
Speaker 4: I love this from I mean, I like her saying
Speaker 4: we've decided to restart communications. Wow, could you be more
Speaker 4: so important than that? It's like China and the United
Speaker 4: States are starting to talk again. Mika Brazinski's gonna start
Speaker 4: talking to Trump again. Whatever, good Lord, get over yourselves. Geez, yeah,
Speaker 4: no kidding.
Speaker 2: So uh.
Speaker 5: Scott Jennings, who's been terrific on the soon to be
Speaker 5: defunct CNN, among many commentators who said something the effective
Speaker 5: he said specifically, he was quote Hitler getting a lot
Speaker 5: more meeting requests than I would have thought. That's a
Speaker 5: good one. The fabulous Byron York Annals of Shamelessness. They
Speaker 5: call Trump a fascist and much much more, and then
Speaker 5: just twenty two days after his Nazi like Crowley, they
Speaker 5: fly to Florida for on audience.
Speaker 2: That's a good point.
Speaker 4: It was their network that ran the video, the black
Speaker 4: and white Ku Kuks Clan video from nineteen thirty nine
Speaker 4: about Trump's rally, and now they're going to meet with
Speaker 4: him to re establish communications, which is the most pretentious
Speaker 4: thing I've ever heard out of any host ever. Oh
Speaker 4: my god, right, it's like Dayton with.
Speaker 2: The Soviet Union or something.
Speaker 5: Oh, Eli Lake terrific columnist for The Free Press wrote,
Speaker 5: quite quote, why would Trump bother talking to these people
Speaker 5: other than to urge them to seek mental health counseling.
Speaker 4: That's what I thought when she said we've decided. You
Speaker 4: might be asking why we decided to restart community. No
Speaker 4: better question is why would he give you any time?
Speaker 2: And why are you telling us this? We don't care?
Speaker 4: Well, I assume it's got something to do with half
Speaker 4: of America voted for the guy. You might want to
Speaker 4: be able to, you know, get into the heads of
Speaker 4: half the freaking country.
Speaker 8: Ah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean that would be a thoroughly defensible point
Speaker 5: of view. And honestly, I think Joe, I don't know,
Speaker 5: Mikus strikes me as a bit of adult, But Joe
Speaker 5: Scarbaro is a very strategic guy, and he's a very
Speaker 5: very bright guy.
Speaker 2: He chose a role, he chose an approach he's got
Speaker 2: to show.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he've goten incredibly wealthy and famous with the approach.
Speaker 2: Yeah exactly.
Speaker 5: But to your point, he sees that and thinks, hmm,
Speaker 5: what's the strategic way forward? One more quick reaction my
Speaker 5: main point than some more just for fun. But somebody said,
Speaker 5: once again, Democrats never actually thought Trump was Hitler or
Speaker 5: a fascist dictator or anything like that. If you were propagandized,
Speaker 5: it's okay, you got played. But I you know, I
Speaker 5: would like to point out I would like to get
Speaker 5: like a one day pass from Elon Musk to tweet
Speaker 5: to all of these people who are on Twitter and
Speaker 5: TikTok and Instagram, whatever, explaining how they've now cut off
Speaker 5: their family for voting right for Trump. I would like
Speaker 5: to point out to them, Hey, that propaganda. You bought,
Speaker 5: that rhetoric. You accepted. The people who convinced you it
Speaker 5: was true, never believed it. Don't tell your dad, you're
Speaker 5: never going to talk to him again. They exploited you
Speaker 5: for their profit and you believed them.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's you know, Like I said last week, that's
Speaker 4: what I'm hoping comes out of this as we have
Speaker 4: the next generation of young people that will head into
Speaker 4: adulthood realizing, oh, they claim it's an him as a
Speaker 4: Nazi and Hitler and all this stuff, and then as
Speaker 4: soon as the election's over, you just go back to
Speaker 4: business as usual.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, it's a rude.
Speaker 4: So now you all know it too, Like it took
Speaker 4: me a while to figure it out, because when you're young,
Speaker 4: you think this actually is the most important election ever.
Speaker 4: All the people I care about are telling me this
Speaker 4: is the most important election. The country's gonna be over
Speaker 4: if it goes the wrong way. Yeah, no, kid, You're
Speaker 4: not gonna talk to your dad anymore. Did you see
Speaker 4: Joe Biden sitting there smiling, shaking hands with Trump, and
Speaker 4: Joe and Mika.
Speaker 2: Going down there to talk to him. What are you
Speaker 2: talking about? How do you square those things? Friends?
Speaker 5: Seriously, take a moment and think about it. This is
Speaker 5: not a trick question, you know. One loyal viewer says,
Speaker 5: gutted by Joe and Mika this morning. Gutted, total capitulation
Speaker 5: after years of railing about his lack of fitness, not
Speaker 5: even an interview to show their journalistic integrity, just to
Speaker 5: pure kiss the ring session. Disappointed and done with them
Speaker 5: in their show. You're getting close, You're getting closer. The
Speaker 5: problem isn't that they're meeting with Trump. The problem is
Speaker 5: that the rest of it was pretend right right right?
Speaker 5: This isn't, you know, some sort of departure from their principles.
Speaker 5: These are their principles again, Where does that leave you?
Speaker 5: Having believed them and cut off your family, you know,
Speaker 5: if you wanted to attack Joe Scarborough and his wife.
Speaker 5: And again, I realize most of you don't. Ever, you've
Speaker 5: never seen one second of the show ever, I realize,
Speaker 5: And that's good, But god, you could play so many
Speaker 5: clips of them saying over the top things where it'd
Speaker 5: be legit to then ask them, how did you sit
Speaker 5: in the same room with this guy, who you see
Speaker 5: is one of the most evil people on the planet,
Speaker 5: who only cares about destroying the country, making sure women
Speaker 5: have no rights.
Speaker 2: He's racist?
Speaker 4: Can you possibly sit down and have a conversation with them? Well,
Speaker 4: it's because they didn't believe it in that stuff they said.
Speaker 2: Is how right? Yeah? Entertainment, news ertainment.
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Speaker 4: I'm pretty tired of the looking back over the presidential election,
Speaker 4: but I thought this article in the New York Times
Speaker 4: how Kamala Harris burned through one point five billion dollars
Speaker 4: in fifteen weeks was pretty entertaining.
Speaker 2: Maybe we got to get into that a little bit
Speaker 2: water how it helped her win. Oh that's right.
Speaker 4: Oh no, she burned through one point five billion dollars
Speaker 4: in fifteen weeks, according to New York Times, she was
Speaker 4: averaging one hundred million dollars a week on spending.
Speaker 2: That's crazy.
Speaker 4: Nobody's ever spent anything even close to them that amount
Speaker 4: of money, even in a.
Speaker 5: Winning campaign, right right, which says something about money in politics.
Speaker 5: I mean, you can put like five hundred dollars or
Speaker 5: two blips kind of pig and it's still around squealing.
Speaker 4: Well, as The New York Times points out, she spent
Speaker 4: all that money and became the first Democratic presidential candidate
Speaker 4: to lose the popular vote in two decades.
Speaker 5: Says if she was a terrible candidate and everyone knew
Speaker 5: it all along. Wow, there's a viral video out now
Speaker 5: where it's Tim Walls.
Speaker 2: It's some you remember him. That was funny, wasn't it? Anyway?
Speaker 5: So Tim Walls is during the campaign, he's given his
Speaker 5: speech about a one thing I can't fuck him those
Speaker 5: people for is they've stolen the joy from America.
Speaker 2: We have the joy. They're dark and ugly enough of them.
Speaker 5: And then it cuts to everybody doing the Trump dance
Speaker 5: in the NFL and college.
Speaker 2: That's it on TV and just so, man, that's pretty funny.
Speaker 4: Washington Post with a story out Today, athletes are beginning
Speaker 4: to celebrate their wins and goals by dancing like President Trump.
Speaker 4: I've seen everyone do it, said Las Vegas raiders Rock
Speaker 4: Bauers told USA Today, it's funny, it's ex weeing its
Speaker 4: all of sports.
Speaker 5: According a nactual NFL guy, Hannah, you wouln't think people
Speaker 5: be doing the Hitler dance, no matter how great a
Speaker 5: movie he had. You know, if Hitler did the moon walk,
Speaker 5: you wouldn't see people doing the Hey, you can dance
Speaker 5: just like Hitler. No, no, that would not be a thing.
Speaker 5: As the kids, I just hope all the youngsters and
Speaker 5: crazy ass soft headed left be cynical. Well a call
Speaker 5: their dads and their moms and their siblings and their
Speaker 5: old friends and wake up from your fever dream and
Speaker 5: be realize, Hey, they're trying to whip you up, to
Speaker 5: manipulate you to get your votes and your viewership and
Speaker 5: your money. Wise up, Yeah, get more cynical, get less dopey.
Speaker 4: Well, I'm looking at the picture at the big UFC
Speaker 4: fight with Trump and Kid Rock. Everybody in the crowd
Speaker 4: churn That seems like a jelly roll. That seemed like
Speaker 4: some joy there.
Speaker 5: Kid Rock really the girring of hip hop jack Kid
Speaker 5: Rock really looking too.
Speaker 4: Old for his outfit in some pictures. At some point
Speaker 4: you age out of your your wacky clothes, Elon wearing
Speaker 4: a T shirt that said occupy Mars, which I found
Speaker 4: hilarious to me.
Speaker 5: That is hilarious to me. You go with your look
Speaker 5: until the grave.
Speaker 2: Oh why not? Yeah, you're a major stop Yeah yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: yeah yeah.
Speaker 5: I mean, can you imagine the Kid Rock in naval
Speaker 5: high slacks and a cardigan.
Speaker 2: It's just it's not right. I see you see he's
Speaker 2: still doing it. That's quite the crew for Trump to
Speaker 2: walk into that match, isn't it.
Speaker 5: Imagine trying to explain to somebody ten years ago, all right,
Speaker 5: here's the deal, and you go through that list of
Speaker 5: Elon Musk Okay, all right, I'm tracking with you and
Speaker 5: Kid Rock what and RFK Junior?
Speaker 2: Whoa wait what now? Oh right? That would be developed.
Speaker 2: Oh we got a lot more on the way.
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Speaker 4: that over the course of one hundred and eighty million years,
Speaker 4: the Y chromosome has declined, and that men could go
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So ladies hanging in there, you'll get your little president.
Speaker 2: You know, Oh, crowd aghast.
Speaker 4: What I mostly thought was interesting in that joke was
Speaker 4: men will go extinct in the crowd cheering.
Speaker 2: That that particularly gals, It seemed like that whole view
Speaker 2: of men.
Speaker 4: We got to turn that around as a country somehow
Speaker 4: for my sons as they head out into the world.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, that's that's a real divide among women. Do
Speaker 5: you believe to be pro woman is to be anti man?
Speaker 5: What an insane point of view.
Speaker 2: I got more misogyny in a second.
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Speaker 4: I guess this isn't misogyny. I just think it's dumb,
Speaker 4: so the you promised misogyny the big boxing match, Tyson
Speaker 4: landed eighteen punches in.
Speaker 2: The entire fight. How many rounds did it go?
Speaker 4: Six two minute rounds? Plenty eighteen punches total. I mean,
Speaker 4: that is not much of a fight. He was so
Speaker 4: tired though. He got punched in the face really hard
Speaker 4: a couple of times, and to his credit as a
Speaker 4: guy who's about sixty, didn't fall over. And I think
Speaker 4: Jake Paul realized if I knock out this old man
Speaker 4: in front of the entire crowd was clearly rooting for
Speaker 4: Mike Tyson.
Speaker 2: I mean, wasn't even a question. It would have been
Speaker 2: awful for him.
Speaker 4: He's a businessman, he's a guy who's figured out to
Speaker 4: become a gazillionaire. As a really annoying him and his brother,
Speaker 4: I couldn't hate them more. I hate the whole influencer, Instagram,
Speaker 4: sensation YouTube thing in general, and they are the key
Speaker 4: to it.
Speaker 2: I mean, they're just ahead of it. I like the
Speaker 2: prom King and Queen of it, of.
Speaker 4: Just do outrageous stupid things to get attention and become rich.
Speaker 4: I hate that old thing. Speaking of which, in the
Speaker 4: boxing match, as they always do in boxing matches, they
Speaker 4: have really hot chicks in skimpy outfits who stand there
Speaker 4: and smile in their fake hooters, and this one tall blonde.
Speaker 2: And bring the number of the round around the ring. Girls. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 2: these girls got most attention.
Speaker 4: This one particular girl got most pretention just for standing
Speaker 4: behind the people as everybody was talking, and she became
Speaker 4: an instant sensation. I'm not even gonna say her name
Speaker 4: because I don't want to promote her, but uh, I
Speaker 4: mean you couldn't look at the screen and not notice her.
Speaker 2: She was quite noticeable.
Speaker 4: But she now has like five million Instagram followers and
Speaker 4: sixteen million TikTok videos and whatever.
Speaker 2: Right, so weird? Who are you dudes who start following
Speaker 2: someone on Instagram because it's.
Speaker 4: A slightly different and I mean slightly different hot blonde chick.
Speaker 9: What is that?
Speaker 5: Well, unlike my misogynist friend, I'm not outraged or offended
Speaker 5: by any of this, but I will tell you this,
Speaker 5: Dear cash In, now hire an agent today by noon.
Speaker 5: Sign any contract put in front of you, no matter
Speaker 5: the terms, and make your money now.
Speaker 4: Or reply to all those rich dudes who are reaching
Speaker 4: out to you and see if one of them is
Speaker 4: nice enough to want to marry.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5: Signed that really cute girl at the Masters a couple
Speaker 5: of years ago. See seeing the super cute girl at
Speaker 5: the Tennessee football game who was on camera for ten seconds?
Speaker 2: Remember no, no no, the hot guard at one of
Speaker 2: the Trump trials of the Cops. She became cute cops.
Speaker 2: She became something for a while. Yeah, you better cash
Speaker 2: in like next day. I just I don't blame her.
Speaker 4: That's what She's attractive and she's trying to figure out
Speaker 4: how to make a living off the fact that she
Speaker 4: was blessed being attractive.
Speaker 2: You dudes, though, who follow her on Instagram? What is
Speaker 2: your thing? Can I buy your time?
Speaker 5: Goodness?
Speaker 4: You have nothing else to do with your life? Then
Speaker 4: follow yet another hot chick and look at her in
Speaker 4: her clothes? What the hell?
Speaker 2: Or out of them?
Speaker 5: She might get an OnlyFans account jack or sell her
Speaker 5: underwear god knows what in this six sick world. Uh,
Speaker 5: but I think that the dudes, they're taking it a
Speaker 5: lot less Seriously, this looks she's a really cute girl
Speaker 5: who's just a skinny, blonde girl with big boobs, imagine,
Speaker 5: and they'll check out her Instagram and then next.
Speaker 2: Week on to somebody else. Wow.
Speaker 4: I wonder what the process is to become that person
Speaker 4: in the boxing match. I wonder if that was pretty cutthroat,
Speaker 4: because turned out to be fairly lucrative for her.
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