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Speaker 1: a lot to get into, man. I just did an

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Speaker 1: event at Wrap Snacks. Round of applause for Wrap Snacks. Man.

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Speaker 1: If you don't know, Rap Snacks is owned by James Lindsey.

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Speaker 1: It's five hundred million dollar brand heated to a begion.

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Speaker 1: of people. We the kind of people that's gonna go

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Speaker 1: get it, that's gonna have it. That's gonna make sure

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Speaker 1: that the family took care of It's gonna do our best.

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Speaker 1: Mean what we say standing bad. And so as you

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Speaker 1: see those guys right that say, man Bro had the

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Speaker 1: biggest heart in the world. Bro, you can give two

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Speaker 1: million to the community. If you miss homeboy, he gonna

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Speaker 1: say you ain't nothing. You can give ten million to

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Speaker 1: the trenches. If he couldn't get ten grand for his bond,

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Speaker 1: you will suck them. And if you live long enough,

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Speaker 1: you get to see friends turn the fold, and things

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Speaker 1: you thought are never had been taken place, and people

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Speaker 1: you thought are never fold turned over, and people you

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Speaker 1: thought never say none speak loud. Those that you had

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Speaker 1: faith in let you down. If you live long enough,

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Speaker 1: you get to knowing some of these things. And I

441
00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:13,240
Speaker 1: always as these guys this out every day, and everybody

442
00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:15,399
Speaker 1: love you because I get it on a small scale,

443
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Speaker 1: and it's already interfering and affecting the way I interact

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Speaker 1: with just people. So I'm knowing at a high level.

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Speaker 1: How do you give a message to the world without

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Speaker 1: losing your home. You have to have somebody at home

447
00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:36,720
Speaker 1: that agrees and knows your message to the world. See,

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00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:39,320
Speaker 1: oftentimes you give your message to the world, and then

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Speaker 1: you win competition in your home. Competition and love cannot

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Speaker 1: live in the same place. These two things are opposite

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Speaker 1: of each other and they affect each other in a

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Speaker 1: way where the more you have a one unless you

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Speaker 1: have or the other. So the more competing that's going

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Speaker 1: on unless love is available for the situation. And anytime

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Speaker 1: you rob a man of his position, you lost that individual,

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Speaker 1: and anytime you rob a woman of a dignity, you

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Speaker 1: lost that individual. You know, for those of you that

458
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Speaker 1: listen to this podcast every week, you know I tend

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Speaker 1: to tap into things that maybe people in our culture

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Speaker 1: are not familiar with. Right now, we're gonna look at

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Speaker 1: a conversation between Pat Bell and Neil Degrass Tyson. I

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Speaker 1: find these things interesting because I like to see people

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Speaker 1: with a high level of intelligence have different opinions and

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Speaker 1: try to exercise both of their understandings at the same time.

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Speaker 1: And what you actively are watching is that trying to

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Speaker 1: bring you into their world to look at it from

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Speaker 1: this perspective. And then on the other side is no,

468
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Speaker 1: well what about this perspective? So let's just take a

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Speaker 1: look at him and to give a little context, what

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Speaker 1: the conversation is about It's about the job, right, It's

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Speaker 1: about when Vizach saying and how they kind of forced

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Speaker 1: that and what people understanding that it was. Let's take

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Speaker 1: a look, right, So this is this is the contest

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Speaker 1: between the information you have available to you at that

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Speaker 1: moment and what's going on outside the lab. People are dying,

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Speaker 1: hospitals are becoming overloaded. Force them to take it, or

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Speaker 1: else you're gonna get out of marines and you've been

478
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Speaker 1: doing this for fourteen years not force them to take it,

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Speaker 1: or if you have to quit your job, as there's

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Speaker 1: a public health force versus there's a choice. No, there's

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Speaker 1: a public health contract that you have signed implicitly as

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Speaker 1: a citizen of a country where in part we depend

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Speaker 1: on each other for health, our wealth, our security, and

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Speaker 1: the like. And that contract is in the best scientific

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Speaker 1: evidence available at the time. If you do not get vaccinated,

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Speaker 1: you will put other people in this organization at risk,

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Speaker 1: and that organization does not want to take that risk,

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Speaker 1: but at the expense of what is always my question. Right,

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Speaker 1: So he's saying that you listen, you're basically taking the

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Speaker 1: vaccine for the rest of the people, for the people

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Speaker 1: around you, to protect those that may not have a

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Speaker 1: strong immune system, right, and so it's a collective thing.

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Speaker 1: But then risk myself for the collective. So you're saying,

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Speaker 1: deal with the data that they have, even if that

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Speaker 1: can affect me because it's not peer reviewed data in

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Speaker 1: the same way that they usually do, right. And then

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Speaker 1: you'll hear him later on go to ignore and Neil

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Speaker 1: degrass Tyson, I have a high level of respect for

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Speaker 1: I'm actually reaching back to him to get him on

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Speaker 1: the show and come talk about his book, like I've

501
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:56,800
Speaker 1: been watching them for a while. But this conversation to

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Speaker 1: me is a good conversation. But then you hear him

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Speaker 1: ignore the fact that it was rust and we'll talk

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Speaker 1: about that. You do not have this job anymore if

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Speaker 1: you decline it. So with any public health decision, there

506
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Speaker 1: has to be a consequence to you not participating in

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Speaker 1: that social contract. Is it your job? In some cases

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Speaker 1: it was, but no, we're not going to have the

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Speaker 1: army bust into your home and force a needle into

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Speaker 1: your shoulder. That's not going to happen. We pretty much

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Speaker 1: did that. Well, only put your job at risk? Yes, yea.

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Speaker 1: Sixty seven percent of Americans took to COVID. That's force.

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Speaker 1: That's not a choice. That's a that's a lot of

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Speaker 1: force and course and pushing going on. But that's that's

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Speaker 1: the Yeah, you can't go to the school unless you're

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Speaker 1: vaccinated against I think that's bullshit. If it's a different country, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but okay, what you want a country, No, America is

518
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Speaker 1: supposed to be the one that offers the most freedom.

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Speaker 1: That's what America's supposed to be. Okay, So watch so

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Speaker 1: so for example, so for example, if you use that argument,

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Speaker 1: so somebody may say, well, freedom of choice, I want

522
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Speaker 1: to choose what I want to do with the body.

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Speaker 1: You're right, we get if you want to get an abortion,

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Speaker 1: it's if you want to get an abortion, get an abortion.

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Speaker 1: If I want to get the vaccine, I get to choose.

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Speaker 1: So you can't force. If I can't force you to

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Speaker 1: get an abortion, you shouldn't be able to force you

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Speaker 1: because it's not about you. It's about people you interact with.

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Speaker 1: And that is a problem. How is it not about

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Speaker 1: me in regards to something I'm putting in my body.

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Speaker 1: We do know and can't ignore that medicine does have

532
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Speaker 1: different effects on people. It can do anything till you

533
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Speaker 1: from you get a rest till you die. Right, Not

534
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Speaker 1: not that particular thing, but it's a it's a you

535
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Speaker 1: cast a wide net when you start to talk about

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Speaker 1: the results of your body not cooperating with a medication

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Speaker 1: that didn't go into the same scrutiny as the same

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Speaker 1: ones that they actively push. And we again, I'm not

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Speaker 1: on either side. I think about it, and I just

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to deal with the information. For me, again,

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Speaker 1: this is just a great conversation. Let's continue the social

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Speaker 1: contract of public. We don't we don't even know if

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Speaker 1: let's put this back in the context he's going in

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Speaker 1: saying that this is not about you, and I find

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Speaker 1: that very interesting. Bracked with and that's the social contract

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Speaker 1: of choice. I want to choose what I want to

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Speaker 1: do with the body. You're right, we get to body.

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Speaker 1: If you want to get an abortion, it's your own body,

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Speaker 1: your own body. If you want to get an abortion,

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Speaker 1: get an abortion. If I want to get the vaccine,

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Speaker 1: I get to choose. So you can't force. If I

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Speaker 1: can't force you to get an abortion, you shouldn't be

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Speaker 1: able to force because it's not about you. It's about

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Speaker 1: people you interact with. And that's the social contract of public.

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Speaker 1: We don't. We don't even know if the vaccine worked

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Speaker 1: or not at the time. Yes, that's what the trials are, dude,

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Speaker 1: that's why these trials. Are you missing data? But let

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Speaker 1: me ask you a question. Are we saying only one

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Speaker 1: type of scientists are right? No, we're saying that the

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Speaker 1: system in place, the sixteen thousand that's signed, that the

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Speaker 1: system in place test vaccine. There's an entire system that's

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Speaker 1: in place that that with review boards and or it

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00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 1: that's in place. Now you can say, you can what

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Speaker 1: you can say is I have a better idea. So again,

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Speaker 1: he's speaking to the system in place. Neil de grass

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Speaker 1: Tyson is a brilliant guy. He's speaking to that system

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Speaker 1: in place. I would say that they ignored the system

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Speaker 1: that was in place, because again, it usually is I

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Speaker 1: think it's about five five years or something for them

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Speaker 1: to have a vaccine that they sake and combat such

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Speaker 1: a viral virus, right, And so I don't I don't

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Speaker 1: think that they followed the system. And I think he's

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Speaker 1: using that in a way that I just can't sustain

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00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 1: that argument. It's like, Yo, if we talk about the system,

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Speaker 1: we have to deal with that and look at that

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Speaker 1: and say no, the system that they have in place

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Speaker 1: for vaccines, I don't think they followed that to a

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Speaker 1: tea because granted they didn't have the time too. We

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Speaker 1: were losing lives. So it's like they had to ignore

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Speaker 1: some of those things to try to get something out.

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Speaker 1: But when you ignore some of those things, how does

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Speaker 1: that affect people on the other side? And if I

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Speaker 1: have information that certain things will ignore just by knowing

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Speaker 1: the timeline and saying it, hold on, you came from

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00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:21,760
Speaker 1: here to there too quick. You couldn't have been where

586
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 1: you said you was right dealing with that information, it

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00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 1: is like, hold on, I'm not gonna take it. And

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00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 1: then that what what does that put you in? And

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Speaker 1: I think the conversation that surrounded not taking it. I

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Speaker 1: believe that if you didn't take it and didn't say nothing,

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Speaker 1: they don't get down, they don't really care. But when

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Speaker 1: you got a voice and start speaking on it, I

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Speaker 1: think that's when you get in a way and all

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Speaker 1: these review boards and all these agencies and the CDC.

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Speaker 1: I have a better idea, here's what you should do,

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00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 1: and that would have made everything better. Okay, you can

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00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 1: put forth that idea But what I'm saying is in

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Speaker 1: a case where you can contaminate someone else, it's not

599
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:03,320
Speaker 1: about you, it's about out the collective. You're assuming health,

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Speaker 1: you're assuming, you're assuming because somebody can take the vaccine

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Speaker 1: won't get COVID, which, by the way, I don't need

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Speaker 1: to play the clips for you to see it. What

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Speaker 1: everybody said, Hey, if you get it, you're not gonna

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Speaker 1: get if you take the actually you're not gonna get

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Speaker 1: a Rachel Matta, Joe Biden. I can give you fouch you,

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Speaker 1: I can give you fit. And you've seen these clips before.

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Speaker 1: It's not like you've never seen it before. Yet what happened?

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Speaker 1: They were wrong? All right, So so the strain evolved. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so that the vaccine that is where he gets you.

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Speaker 1: You better pay attention. It's societist. He's starting getting his bag.

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Speaker 1: Pay attention. Prevented you from catching COVID was tuned to

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Speaker 1: the variant of COVID at the time the vaccine was denied.

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Speaker 1: What was designed. Okay, Over time, there were variants that arose.

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Speaker 1: The vaccine provided partial protection against the new variants, enough

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Speaker 1: to keep you from dying statistically and to basically keep

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Speaker 1: you out of the hospital, allowing other people with more

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Speaker 1: severe problems to get the hospital attention they required, and

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Speaker 1: so then they would develop a subsequent the booster and

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Speaker 1: a subsequent mixture of the vaccine. This is what happens

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Speaker 1: every year with a flu shot. They look at how

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Speaker 1: the flu is evolved from one season to the next

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Speaker 1: and what's fortunate. But the thing is, with all due

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Speaker 1: respect to Neil de grass Tyson, I like the comparison

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Speaker 1: of a flu shot, but they didn't categorize it's like

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Speaker 1: a flu shot. They said a vaccine. And we do

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Speaker 1: know there's very different things between a vaccine and the

627
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Speaker 1: category that the flu shot is in. That's a treatment, right,

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Speaker 1: That's not a vaccine. So it's those are different things.

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Speaker 1: And so what a problem lies is, mister degrass Tyson,

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Speaker 1: is not that we don't understand looking out for others,

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Speaker 1: but the way that this will categorize, right, and the

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Speaker 1: rushing of it. It just spoke volumes to people, and

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Speaker 1: so they rejected the notion of taking it. And then

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Speaker 1: we started to see people come up under criticism. You

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Speaker 1: had dudes like Carrie Irving that was like, well, I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna hold up and we're talking about a man and

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Speaker 1: make all his money out of his body. And I'm

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Speaker 1: only speaking about money because Americas is a capitalist system.

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Speaker 1: So if anything, I can understand the you knucklehead business people,

640
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 1: I can talk about the money. Carrie Irving ran around

641
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:30,239
Speaker 1: and make all his money off his body, and you're

642
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 1: telling him to put some many that he unsure about

643
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 1: a couple of things because if I just look at

644
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:38,759
Speaker 1: the data and the history, it tells me so much

645
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 1: about the process. And something's been ignored, and if it's

646
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:45,320
Speaker 1: been ignored, I'm not comfortable with it. I don't understand

647
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 1: how people was under so much scrutiny. But again, pay

648
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:51,080
Speaker 1: attention to what he's doing right here. They did not

649
00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 1: categorize this like a flu shot, like a treatment. They

650
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:58,440
Speaker 1: categorize this as a vaccine. And then they said take

651
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Speaker 1: another one, and then take another the one and didn't

652
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 1: take another one. And this is where you guess slippery.

653
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 1: Australia tends to get the variant of flu before we

654
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 1: do because they get their winter in our summer, and

655
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Speaker 1: then so we study that have a forward projection for it,

656
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:17,439
Speaker 1: so that so these annual flu shots are precisely out

657
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:20,239
Speaker 1: of the same idea of how this eco? How long

658
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:23,879
Speaker 1: have those been tested? Though for years COVID vaccine hasn't

659
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:26,000
Speaker 1: been tested for it. It was a it was something

660
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 1: we just came out. But let me, I don't know

661
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 1: what point you're making other than it was tested. You

662
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 1: might nine months, you might prefer It's not a matter

663
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:34,800
Speaker 1: of time. It's a matter of it's a matter of

664
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Speaker 1: how many. Yes, time matters, but the number of people

665
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:40,799
Speaker 1: is paramount. That's the most important thing. Okay, you don't

666
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Speaker 1: test it on ten people, many people as you can show.

667
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 1: I think it was thousands. But is it fair to

668
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 1: say that some of the side effects we may not

669
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Speaker 1: know for five, ten, fifteen, twenty years. You can't like

670
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 1: they can't say we know one percent to side effects

671
00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 1: ten years from now. How are you going to know that? Yeah, okay,

672
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:03,239
Speaker 1: so no, of course we can't. We can't know that, guy,

673
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:07,719
Speaker 1: But watch so. I have a whole chapter called risk

674
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 1: and Reward in the book, which is tries to get

675
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:16,399
Speaker 1: sensitize people to when they make a decision, what kind

676
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:20,320
Speaker 1: of risk are they absorbing relative to what they're rejecting. Okay,

677
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:23,840
Speaker 1: and we're not very good at that, at probability and

678
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 1: statistics or analyzing it. That's why TV commercials trying to

679
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 1: sell you a product don't just show you a data.

680
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 1: They show a person speaking of the effectiveness of the product.

681
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:40,759
Speaker 1: A single person, I lost fifty pounds. The testimony of

682
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:44,719
Speaker 1: an individual should be irrelevant to you relative to the

683
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:47,279
Speaker 1: entire set of people who have done it, and you

684
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 1: want to look at those statistics. But we're not good

685
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 1: at that, and advertisers know that, So they show the

686
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Speaker 1: testimony of an individual, which is hugely potent in a

687
00:37:56,000 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 1: civilization where we don't think statistically. We think about eyewitness

688
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:03,480
Speaker 1: testimony on something, and somehow that is raised a very

689
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 1: high level of influence on our decisions. Well, what I'm

690
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:10,799
Speaker 1: saying is you're not confirmed. Your decision point is not

691
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Speaker 1: I'm not going to take the virus because five years,

692
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Speaker 1: ten years, I don't know what effect it's been on Hey,

693
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Speaker 1: though some may not be comfortable, let me finish the sentence.

694
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Speaker 1: You okay, So you can say I don't want to

695
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Speaker 1: take the virus because five or ten years from now

696
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:29,319
Speaker 1: there could be a side effect that we don't see,

697
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 1: which is a possibility. Hold on. What I don't understand

698
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Speaker 1: is why he doesn't consider that. Why is that just

699
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 1: such far off for him. He seemed like he just

700
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Speaker 1: doesn't consider that people like he's still black, right, he

701
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:48,920
Speaker 1: understands history. I'm trying to understand why he don't. It

702
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 1: seemed like he's not wrapping his brain around somebody saying, well,

703
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Speaker 1: I am, I don't know, man, it might five or

704
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:58,640
Speaker 1: teen years. I might drop dead from that. Make a

705
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 1: statistical pointer if you say I don't want to take

706
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 1: the virus because it hasn't been tested for five years

707
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 1: and there could be some long term side effect that

708
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:15,680
Speaker 1: worries me. Okay. In that same moment, there's the risk

709
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:21,879
Speaker 1: factor of you getting COVID, sure, okay, unvaccinated eighty At

710
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Speaker 1: one point eighty seven percent of everyone dying in the

711
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 1: hospital of COVID was unvaccinated. Okay, So your risk choice

712
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 1: is I'm not going to take it because maybe somewhere

713
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:38,279
Speaker 1: down the line something will happen and we don't know

714
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 1: what that is, or I will risk getting COVID, and

715
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:43,560
Speaker 1: if I get COVID, depending on your age. Another thing,

716
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:46,400
Speaker 1: there's a three percent chance of me dying in the hospital.

717
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 1: That's your choice, yes, yes, But what I see people

718
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 1: doing is they focus on one thing and that's the

719
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 1: foundation of their decision, but rather than the other chance

720
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Speaker 1: and what happens to via covid? Do you get long

721
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Speaker 1: COVID Now you don't have a taste buds for two

722
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Speaker 1: years or whatever it is. For long covid um you're

723
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 1: on a ventilator in the hospital, possibly dying. Like, what

724
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:13,080
Speaker 1: where is the So I looked every day, once a week,

725
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Speaker 1: I looked at the statistics. How many people are getting COVID,

726
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Speaker 1: what's the rate, what's the rate of hospitalization, what's the

727
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 1: rate of deaths? Where is it by state? I had

728
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Speaker 1: to look at it. Board forced me to like, we're

729
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:25,879
Speaker 1: in the business that they should of because it's data. Yeah,

730
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Speaker 1: I agree on risk factor the risk of people's lives. Okay,

731
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:32,800
Speaker 1: so so nothing is ever zero risk. Yeah, there's a

732
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Speaker 1: risk that you'll grow a third arm in ten years

733
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Speaker 1: because the virus mutates within you. Should what should the individual?

734
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Speaker 1: Should the individual not have the right to say I

735
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Speaker 1: don't want to take it because that you don't have

736
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Speaker 1: the right to contaminate someone else. So if you don't

737
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Speaker 1: want to get shot, says that though, But who says

738
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Speaker 1: that it's a it's a it's a social contract. I

739
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:54,400
Speaker 1: believe that's so dangerous to say you don't how to

740
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:57,480
Speaker 1: right to contaminate someone else. Now, now, what do you

741
00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:01,440
Speaker 1: mean by that? So you got the right to contaminate

742
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 1: me by putting something in me that we don't know

743
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:07,759
Speaker 1: whether or not may contaminate my immune system or do

744
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:10,439
Speaker 1: something to me their harms and me down the road

745
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 1: you say, hey, don't even consider that. But but but

746
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Speaker 1: in the name of you don't have the right to

747
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:21,719
Speaker 1: contaminate somebody else. Take this shot that hasn't went through

748
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:24,400
Speaker 1: the same process that it usually go through, and just

749
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Speaker 1: take our word that you're in a social contract that

750
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 1: you need to buy by that's weird in a modern civilization,

751
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 1: I don't have to I don't have the right to

752
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 1: contaminate someone else in what do you mean? Like, so,

753
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:43,319
Speaker 1: what do I do? Stay? Or it's go to the beach? Yeah,

754
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:45,799
Speaker 1: you stay, You stay away from other old people who

755
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:48,239
Speaker 1: you know, but stay from people who are compara who

756
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Speaker 1: are immune compromised. So so neil So for me, I'm

757
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 1: I'm asking you because I'm I want to know how

758
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Speaker 1: you processed this as a guy that's well read, smart,

759
00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:00,120
Speaker 1: process the data and the data. But we didn't have

760
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Speaker 1: enough data adult. No, No No, we didn't have enough data

761
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 1: at a given moment. Yeah, there's data for you to

762
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:08,800
Speaker 1: make a decision at any given moment. Data is constantly

763
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:11,799
Speaker 1: getting better and better. Yeah, all right, so all right,

764
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:16,960
Speaker 1: at any given moment, you say to yourself, Okay, um, uh,

765
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:18,880
Speaker 1: what happens to me if I get COVID. There's a

766
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 1: chance I'll get long COVID. I'm certainly out for at

767
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 1: least a week. Uh, and there's a chance I'll be hospitalized,

768
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:29,960
Speaker 1: and there's a chance I'll die. Hm. I take the vaccine.

769
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:35,359
Speaker 1: It mitigates this basically entirely, removing the chance that I'm

770
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 1: going to die essentially at my age group, and I

771
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:40,759
Speaker 1: will accept the risk that in five years I'll grow

772
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:44,440
Speaker 1: a third arm. But influence other people. I'm not saying that,

773
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:46,839
Speaker 1: you kind of. I'm not saying that. All I'm saying

774
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:50,799
Speaker 1: is to follow Okay, for example, statistics. Uh, you know,

775
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:54,439
Speaker 1: have you seen a documentary Died Suddenly? Have you? Okay, Well,

776
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:57,160
Speaker 1: it's interesting one. It's on. It's on I don't know

777
00:42:57,200 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 1: where it said. You can find it somewhere online. Okay,

778
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 1: it's got thirty million views. I think it's worth watching. Actually,

779
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:03,840
Speaker 1: would be curious to know what you say about it

780
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 1: once you watch it. The statistic then showed like pre covid,

781
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:12,360
Speaker 1: you know, twenty nine people athletes in Europe died suddenly

782
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 1: from heart failure pre covid, pre taking the mRNA vaccine. Okay,

783
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 1: post taking the mr ANDI vaccine. Last year, fifteen hundred

784
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:25,840
Speaker 1: people suddenly had heart failures in Europe and two thirds died.

785
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:30,360
Speaker 1: That's documented. That's not like it's a hypothetical, right, Okay,

786
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 1: you read statistics like that, then one has the right

787
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:36,719
Speaker 1: to say to just to be shureful if you care

788
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:42,839
Speaker 1: about how you speak information. So so you are describing

789
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:48,440
Speaker 1: two events, okay, you're describing events that had a temporal

790
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:53,840
Speaker 1: relationship before you've established a causal relationship. Just be clear

791
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:56,560
Speaker 1: that that's one I'm not doing that. All I'm doing

792
00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:59,879
Speaker 1: is to follow it. Here's all I'm doing. If if if,

793
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:03,440
Speaker 1: if somebody all of a sudden starts having a breakout, okay,

794
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 1: a breakout of meaning their skin starts break out. You're

795
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:08,880
Speaker 1: twenty six years old, you never had ast. Hey, let

796
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:10,560
Speaker 1: me debate with you, because I'm smarter than I'm not

797
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 1: a scientist. I'm a business let's let's do a hypothetical,

798
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:20,439
Speaker 1: uh scenario. Hypothetics are Um, let's assume an actual cause

799
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:24,760
Speaker 1: and effect has been has been established in these cases,

800
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:26,840
Speaker 1: which it's not have to see this film to know.

801
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 1: I know that a cause and effect other than a

802
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:32,120
Speaker 1: coincidence in time relative to other things that people might

803
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 1: have been doing by the way, alcohol consumption went up

804
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:39,800
Speaker 1: during COVID significantly, okay. And alcohol is implicated in heart disease,

805
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 1: so depression, anxiety, people staying at home, addiction, So those

806
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:49,879
Speaker 1: staying at home wasn't the best decision either. What I'm

807
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:53,719
Speaker 1: saying is, if after the vaccine is available, more people

808
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Speaker 1: die of heart failure over a time where alcohol consumption

809
00:44:57,080 --> 00:45:00,839
Speaker 1: went up, as did that be an option? Yeah, very good.

810
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:03,640
Speaker 1: That's that's all I'm saying here. But let's give it

811
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Speaker 1: to you. Let the vaccine caused this. Let's just say that, okay,

812
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:10,360
Speaker 1: and add it all up and you get what was it,

813
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:19,320
Speaker 1: fifteen hundred post vaccine thousands of deaths let's say okay,

814
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:25,320
Speaker 1: let's say ten thousand even, let's just do that, okay, Um,

815
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 1: all right, Uh, you can estimate how many deaths the

816
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 1: vaccine saved during COVID. Okay, because you can look at

817
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:38,919
Speaker 1: the death numbers drop off as people got vaccinated. It's

818
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:44,800
Speaker 1: in the tens of millions. Again, you can make a decision, Uh,

819
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Speaker 1: do I not want to die from COVID at this

820
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:52,840
Speaker 1: rate that occurred in this world, or do I not

821
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:57,760
Speaker 1: want to die from this complication from the vaccine itself?

822
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:02,439
Speaker 1: So make your decision. And so you'll say I might

823
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Speaker 1: be in that fifteen hundred, So I'm not going to

824
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 1: think then you get COVID and die from COVID, right,

825
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:08,799
Speaker 1: so you just make the dic know what I would

826
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:10,120
Speaker 1: say to that? But you know what I would say today?

827
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 1: What would you say? Here's what I would say to that.

828
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:15,719
Speaker 1: I would say, perfect, let me take the risk and

829
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:18,440
Speaker 1: thank you for giving it to me that way, versus

830
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:20,839
Speaker 1: telling me it's one or the other, which is why

831
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 1: she said formed fully about what the risk are. But

832
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:27,640
Speaker 1: like I said, as a species, we're not very good

833
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:30,960
Speaker 1: at thinking statistically about We're just not. And when we

834
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Speaker 1: want to, we believe we're going to be the exception.

835
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Speaker 1: And look at the people betting on lotteries. You know

836
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:38,640
Speaker 1: they think they're gonna win. But but but for me,

837
00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:41,239
Speaker 1: but for me, Like you know, when the moment they

838
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Speaker 1: started saying, you have to put on cigarettes. This, the

839
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Speaker 1: risk of this, the risk of heart fill your cancer, this, this, that,

840
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:49,120
Speaker 1: and if you still want to smoke cigarettes, guess what

841
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:51,400
Speaker 1: you got a risk. If you smoke cigarettes, you may

842
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:53,680
Speaker 1: get lung cancer. Right, Hey, if you eat this, if

843
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:57,719
Speaker 1: you do this, if you do that. Great they have

844
00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:01,960
Speaker 1: not they have not used that same approach with all things.

845
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Speaker 1: Is the point that he's making. I think that's a

846
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:07,600
Speaker 1: great point. They let you know the risk of cigarettes

847
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:10,279
Speaker 1: and they still let you indulge at your own risk.

848
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:14,279
Speaker 1: That's a great point. Admission to the bar. There's a

849
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:16,960
Speaker 1: cost to that because it's a public health issue. And

850
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:19,200
Speaker 1: so right, you are free to smoke the cigarette, but

851
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:22,719
Speaker 1: not in my establishment by law, not not in your

852
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:26,279
Speaker 1: establishment by law, No problem, right, totally fine. But that's

853
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 1: an example. But if you want to smoke cigarettes outside,

854
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:32,319
Speaker 1: let me you can live on the beach unvaccinated. That's fine, Neil,

855
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:34,799
Speaker 1: let me ask you this, So what state would you

856
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:37,840
Speaker 1: say was the most responsible during Okay, that makes sense.

857
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:41,920
Speaker 1: That's a great ribut. That's a great ribut. Let's talk

858
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:43,960
Speaker 1: a little bit about Andrew take Then I'm gonna get

859
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 1: out of here to be a short podcast this week.

860
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:48,560
Speaker 1: I've been traveling, you know, but I had to make

861
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:52,439
Speaker 1: sure I get you out one in now. Um Andrew Tate,

862
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:56,160
Speaker 1: for those who are unaware, has now been arrested. He's

863
00:47:56,200 --> 00:48:01,080
Speaker 1: been tooken into custody, um um with charges of rape

864
00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:05,440
Speaker 1: and human trafficking. Right there has allegedly been a couple

865
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:07,360
Speaker 1: of girls to come out and say a few things.

866
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:10,319
Speaker 1: Of course, I don't report on these things until all

867
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:13,960
Speaker 1: the facts out because I think it's irresponsible to behave

868
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:16,759
Speaker 1: that way with a platform. Is huge's mind, right. So

869
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:19,319
Speaker 1: I've been watching it, but I ain't said much. Now

870
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:23,239
Speaker 1: I see I see some of the things unfolding, and

871
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:25,760
Speaker 1: a lot of you blog dudes are like, oh for six,

872
00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:28,399
Speaker 1: So when you dudes are talking, I don't even pay

873
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:34,200
Speaker 1: attention no more. But when I watched Tate's situation, and

874
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:36,640
Speaker 1: he's he's great at speaking, all right, He's great at

875
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:40,560
Speaker 1: he's great at talking to youngsters like him. And he's

876
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:46,160
Speaker 1: created this this um ecosystem on the Internet that's undeniable.

877
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:48,880
Speaker 1: And I think, and I think, if he was still

878
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:52,080
Speaker 1: getting down and pimping or whatever he was doing at

879
00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:54,239
Speaker 1: that level, I think, as a responsible he made a

880
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:57,319
Speaker 1: leven million dollars the first month after they canceled him

881
00:48:57,400 --> 00:48:59,920
Speaker 1: quote unquote, and I'm telling you the numbers when you

882
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:03,000
Speaker 1: look at it, right. So Vice is ran a thing

883
00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:06,840
Speaker 1: on him and he has a lot going on. In particular,

884
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:14,080
Speaker 1: they have released this phone call. Let's listen. Am I

885
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:17,400
Speaker 1: a bad person? Because the more you didn't like it,

886
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:19,879
Speaker 1: the more I enjoyed it. I fucking loved how much

887
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:26,040
Speaker 1: you hated it turned me on. Why am I like that? Why?

888
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:28,880
Speaker 1: I am one of the most dangerous men on this planet.

889
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 1: Sometimes you forget exactly how lucky you were to get

890
00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:34,760
Speaker 1: fucked by me. Would you rather me pin you down

891
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:36,680
Speaker 1: and make you do things you didn't like? Or would

892
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:40,000
Speaker 1: you rather fuck you didn't like that? I was thinking,

893
00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:42,799
Speaker 1: I can do whatever I want to you. That's what

894
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:45,280
Speaker 1: it is. I'm the smartest person on this fucking planet.

895
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:48,640
Speaker 1: Are you seriously so offended? I strangled you a little bit.

896
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:53,479
Speaker 1: You didn't fucking pass out. Chill the fuck out, Jesus Christ.

897
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:57,120
Speaker 1: I thought you were a cool what's wrong? Wow? There's

898
00:49:57,160 --> 00:50:02,480
Speaker 1: some shocking shit right though. And I keep telling dudes

899
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:05,319
Speaker 1: and even me, man, this this phone and internet shit

900
00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:09,799
Speaker 1: gotta be careful, extremely careful. With it. Again, I'm not

901
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:13,840
Speaker 1: presuming anyone's innocence or guilt. What I'm speaking about is

902
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:17,560
Speaker 1: just what the naked I me without even doing any

903
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:21,399
Speaker 1: thorough looking into these things, what it looks like from

904
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:25,120
Speaker 1: my standpoint right, A few things I noticed in this

905
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:29,440
Speaker 1: Andrew tap thing. One of those made me think that

906
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:32,759
Speaker 1: these were two different conversations. Number One, you hear background

907
00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:35,799
Speaker 1: in some sort of fight in one part of it,

908
00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:38,759
Speaker 1: and then you don't hit any other one. So that's

909
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:41,120
Speaker 1: the first thing. Let's take a look. Pay attention to

910
00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:44,120
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Am I a bad person? Because the

911
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:46,719
Speaker 1: more you didn't like it? The more I enjoyed that.

912
00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:51,360
Speaker 1: I fucking loved how much you hear that? Now listen,

913
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:55,919
Speaker 1: listen to listen to the background. Pay attention though, Am

914
00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:59,279
Speaker 1: I a bad person? Because the more you didn't like it,

915
00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:01,799
Speaker 1: the more I enjoy it. I fucking loved how much

916
00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:05,920
Speaker 1: you hated it? Turn me on? Why am I like

917
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:11,120
Speaker 1: that you hear that background? Let's continue? Why I am

918
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:14,520
Speaker 1: one of the most dangerous background gone seems like a

919
00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:17,560
Speaker 1: different conversation. Not saying it is not saying how much

920
00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:21,600
Speaker 1: merit it has because it's still still coming out of

921
00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:24,480
Speaker 1: his mouth, but pay attention. Been on this planet. Sometimes

922
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:27,520
Speaker 1: you forget exactly how lucky you were to get fucked

923
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:30,120
Speaker 1: by me. Would you rather me pin you down and

924
00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:31,920
Speaker 1: make you do things you didn't like? Or would you

925
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:35,080
Speaker 1: rather fuck you didn't like that? I was thinking, I

926
00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:38,120
Speaker 1: can do whatever I want to you. That's what it is.

927
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:40,920
Speaker 1: I'm the smartest person on this fucking planet. Are you

928
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:43,920
Speaker 1: seriously so offended? I strangled you a little bit. You

929
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:48,480
Speaker 1: didn't fucking pass out. Chill the fuck out, Jesus Christ.

930
00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:53,040
Speaker 1: I thought you were a cool There's some heavy language though, bro,

931
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:56,279
Speaker 1: And of course I don't stand bad, none of that

932
00:51:56,520 --> 00:51:59,920
Speaker 1: kind of ship. But it's like, okay, if these are

933
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:02,839
Speaker 1: different conversations and you didn't acknowledge that when you put

934
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:04,960
Speaker 1: it out, what does that say about what you're trying

935
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:07,080
Speaker 1: to do? Right? What else are you not saying when

936
00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:09,720
Speaker 1: you put stuff out? This is all I'm I'm speaking

937
00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:11,359
Speaker 1: to And I don't know that to be the case,

938
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:14,799
Speaker 1: but I'm saying, just from a hearing standpoint, it just

939
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:21,440
Speaker 1: feels like those are different conversations. Still bad, I don't know,

940
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:24,440
Speaker 1: you know, when you speak as much as we speak,

941
00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:27,200
Speaker 1: like you can probably go pull my voice out and

942
00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:29,520
Speaker 1: do some things and make it seem like I said

943
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:32,600
Speaker 1: some things that I never said, because I have hundreds

944
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:36,759
Speaker 1: and thousands of hours of speaking and that's me personally, right.

945
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:41,040
Speaker 1: I don't know Andrew Tators going through going through what

946
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:43,480
Speaker 1: we see. But here's what I peeped out though with

947
00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:47,160
Speaker 1: the vice thing is that this is a thing. Now

948
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:52,880
Speaker 1: what they do is same way they did r Kelly Weinstein,

949
00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:57,399
Speaker 1: like Epstein, Andrew Tat is just the most current one

950
00:52:57,440 --> 00:52:59,600
Speaker 1: on the list. When they come to get you, now

951
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:03,279
Speaker 1: they put a documentary together. When they really come to

952
00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:05,799
Speaker 1: cancel you, it ain't you ain't really canceled to they

953
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:09,560
Speaker 1: put that documentary together, and they really put that documentary out,

954
00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:13,759
Speaker 1: then you cancel until then you're not really canceled. Until

955
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:17,280
Speaker 1: then they just playing with you. You know that's internet talk.

956
00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:20,040
Speaker 1: But when they go grab those people and do three

957
00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:23,360
Speaker 1: four episodes over here, in an episode over there, and

958
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:26,200
Speaker 1: they start putting it together, they trying to get a

959
00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:29,120
Speaker 1: case foul. If you really look at what's happened a

960
00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:31,799
Speaker 1: lot of the people that has charges now, it's been

961
00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:35,560
Speaker 1: a documentary parallel to them dudes getting charged. A lot

962
00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:38,520
Speaker 1: of those guys went twenty thirty years getting away with

963
00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:43,799
Speaker 1: certain things. Those documentaries shine light on things. Right, and

964
00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:48,000
Speaker 1: Andrew Tate invited Vice to his home, and I'm gonna

965
00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:51,120
Speaker 1: really talk about this next week, right because I want

966
00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:54,480
Speaker 1: to dive into it just a little more about what

967
00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:58,960
Speaker 1: the Romanian government really has and what's going on. I

968
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:01,760
Speaker 1: hear people out there who is Andrew telling why people

969
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:04,560
Speaker 1: care about him. It's like they're trying to make it

970
00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:07,120
Speaker 1: where you gotta be a rapper or something for them

971
00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:11,360
Speaker 1: to give you some credibility. Not me because I'm established,

972
00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:13,880
Speaker 1: but I see them trying to beat down anybody that

973
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:16,640
Speaker 1: didn't come up through the industry. My thing is, you

974
00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:19,319
Speaker 1: can't have people working next to you that didn't come

975
00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:21,840
Speaker 1: through the industry and then be beat down people that

976
00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:26,239
Speaker 1: didn't come through the industry. You're devaluing your partners. It

977
00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:29,480
Speaker 1: just don't make sense. So it's conversation to be had

978
00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:32,279
Speaker 1: about that. Matter of fact. Let's go into this next conversation.

979
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:37,160
Speaker 1: Ice from the Joe Budden podcast is under scrutiny. He

980
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:39,399
Speaker 1: has a lot of people going at him asking him

981
00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:42,919
Speaker 1: to be took off the podcast. It's just still doing well,

982
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:48,279
Speaker 1: but they have inserted Queen's flipping Melissa Ford, and so

983
00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:51,560
Speaker 1: this podcast now has five or six people on it.

984
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:54,319
Speaker 1: They're trying to find the loops. I feel as though

985
00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:56,600
Speaker 1: what they're trying to do is they're trying to extend

986
00:54:57,040 --> 00:55:02,120
Speaker 1: certain conversations and create new conversations, because there's certain points

987
00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:06,160
Speaker 1: where I believe they hit a dry spot. Right. He's

988
00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:10,240
Speaker 1: working those guys in a way that's unfamiliar for most podcasters,

989
00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:13,080
Speaker 1: and they're doing their best. They're keeping up. Those guys

990
00:55:13,080 --> 00:55:16,600
Speaker 1: are not podcasters every day all day, so we're asking

991
00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:20,240
Speaker 1: a lot for them to be paying them like part

992
00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:24,520
Speaker 1: time workers. And they could be a fast show. They

993
00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:27,399
Speaker 1: can be a good number, but if you want them

994
00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:29,640
Speaker 1: to dedicate and really put something in that, I do

995
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:32,839
Speaker 1: believe you gotta up there, Anny, you know what I mean.

996
00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:35,960
Speaker 1: We're talking you talking a loan. You know I'm warm mans,

997
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:39,080
Speaker 1: I'm okay in the mark and check the files they've

998
00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:42,360
Speaker 1: been certain queens. Flip Ices asked about it from the

999
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:44,560
Speaker 1: Reddit people. Let's listen to what he said when that

1000
00:55:44,640 --> 00:55:47,799
Speaker 1: camera on, that's the show. I don't I personally, I

1001
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:51,800
Speaker 1: don't care. I don't take it personal. Like when the

1002
00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:56,000
Speaker 1: camera turnoff, we all it's all cool. I'm gonna say it.

1003
00:55:56,120 --> 00:55:57,759
Speaker 1: I say it all the time on the show. Hey man,

1004
00:55:57,840 --> 00:56:00,239
Speaker 1: I check, don't change. This has worked for me. This

1005
00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:03,240
Speaker 1: is me going to work. Some people go to their job,

1006
00:56:03,560 --> 00:56:06,239
Speaker 1: whatever it, come with, whatever it. Those who know me

1007
00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:09,319
Speaker 1: know my daughter is my life. Like that's that. My

1008
00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:12,120
Speaker 1: entire world is sentered around her. I'm proud of that.

1009
00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:15,600
Speaker 1: I love that. He said that. That don't make for

1010
00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:17,839
Speaker 1: a good show, though, Like nobody want to hear about

1011
00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:20,160
Speaker 1: parenting and all this. I'm like, well, hey, if you

1012
00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:21,840
Speaker 1: want to joke your way through, it's your show. You

1013
00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:24,960
Speaker 1: do what you gotta do. I'm cool with that as

1014
00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:27,680
Speaker 1: long as long as when my check hit, it's what

1015
00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:31,080
Speaker 1: it's supposed to be. I'm at work, bro, so I

1016
00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:33,279
Speaker 1: don't tell you when when I walk out of there,

1017
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:36,439
Speaker 1: I leave it all in there. I'm not I don't

1018
00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:39,680
Speaker 1: feel any type of way about anything. I've seen people saying, Yo,

1019
00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:42,000
Speaker 1: you look some of the people sitting on the couch

1020
00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:48,719
Speaker 1: now I talk. I'm gonna be honest man, Like, I

1021
00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:51,760
Speaker 1: think I just gotta be careful with that. Like you're

1022
00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:58,160
Speaker 1: creating a recipe for disaster. Right. You got fans saying, see,

1023
00:56:58,200 --> 00:57:00,359
Speaker 1: here's the thing. You got the noise in the crowd

1024
00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:04,440
Speaker 1: getting loud about you not being enthused or contributing to

1025
00:57:04,520 --> 00:57:07,319
Speaker 1: the part you got. Joe Button said, a lot of

1026
00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:10,760
Speaker 1: you niggas don't even see the replacement. Sometimes you nigga

1027
00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:13,640
Speaker 1: don't even see you know, the nigga he leaving you

1028
00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:17,919
Speaker 1: writing your for y'all niggame pay right, So you got

1029
00:57:18,040 --> 00:57:20,600
Speaker 1: him bringing in other people to sit on the couch.

1030
00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:23,600
Speaker 1: And here's the worst part about it. I'm not sure

1031
00:57:23,640 --> 00:57:26,760
Speaker 1: if you think it's power in that or it's reverse

1032
00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:31,080
Speaker 1: psychology in that. But here's the worst part. You saying

1033
00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:35,280
Speaker 1: you don't care. Oh boy, that steam I'm paying me

1034
00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:40,280
Speaker 1: a some bitch that don't care. Olone don't pay niggas

1035
00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:42,000
Speaker 1: that don't care. I can love you like on you

1036
00:57:42,080 --> 00:57:46,480
Speaker 1: don't care, I can't pay you right, even if you

1037
00:57:46,560 --> 00:57:50,600
Speaker 1: don't care, let's not say it. Here's the thing. Here's

1038
00:57:50,640 --> 00:57:53,000
Speaker 1: the trick. Also, when you're dealing with jobs, and even

1039
00:57:53,080 --> 00:57:55,520
Speaker 1: specially in this industry, when the nigga say they don't care,

1040
00:57:55,560 --> 00:57:58,040
Speaker 1: they really care because those who don't care act like

1041
00:57:58,160 --> 00:58:01,360
Speaker 1: they care because they know that's part of the trickery

1042
00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:04,360
Speaker 1: of getting what they need to really not care through

1043
00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:07,880
Speaker 1: their actions. So so niggas is not caring through their words.

1044
00:58:08,120 --> 00:58:10,680
Speaker 1: And I understand that there's just dudes be hurt, they

1045
00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:14,320
Speaker 1: be feeling the way you understand. But I think he

1046
00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:18,040
Speaker 1: putting himself in a bad situation by having fans getting

1047
00:58:18,040 --> 00:58:21,880
Speaker 1: loud and loud about how they're uncomfortable with the way

1048
00:58:21,920 --> 00:58:25,560
Speaker 1: that he is acting on the podcast, and then his

1049
00:58:25,720 --> 00:58:30,440
Speaker 1: response to that be I don't care, and his response

1050
00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:33,160
Speaker 1: to Joe as long as my paycheck don't change, seemed

1051
00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:36,680
Speaker 1: like he seemed like he might break Yeah, seem like

1052
00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:40,800
Speaker 1: he finnna break character if it listen, man, when you

1053
00:58:40,840 --> 00:58:43,360
Speaker 1: look at a little like ice, fnna break character over there.

1054
00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:47,440
Speaker 1: Something happening over there, and it's something were black people, right,

1055
00:58:47,560 --> 00:58:52,280
Speaker 1: especially men, especially men is raised by women. Sometimes we

1056
00:58:52,360 --> 00:58:55,440
Speaker 1: really underestimate the significance of the I don't care at

1057
00:58:55,480 --> 00:58:58,600
Speaker 1: the don't care, they don't give a I don't care, nigga,

1058
00:58:58,520 --> 00:59:02,320
Speaker 1: I don't give nigg on my paycheck, right nigga? This listen, bro,

1059
00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:05,480
Speaker 1: there's something I know for me to compete with these guys. Man,

1060
00:59:05,520 --> 00:59:09,960
Speaker 1: I got to be canned about this hill, like bro,

1061
00:59:10,160 --> 00:59:13,200
Speaker 1: come on, then, picture going in the whales being paid

1062
00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:16,240
Speaker 1: saying you don't care and I don't know if Joe

1063
00:59:16,320 --> 00:59:19,560
Speaker 1: having these conversations with the homie, But sometimes like Bro,

1064
00:59:19,720 --> 00:59:21,919
Speaker 1: none of my business partner's gonna ever hit me say

1065
00:59:21,960 --> 00:59:24,760
Speaker 1: I don't care, I care about all this shit. I

1066
00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:27,840
Speaker 1: care about this ship more than everything. I got the

1067
00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:30,440
Speaker 1: win and this ship ain't no other way for us.

1068
00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:34,000
Speaker 1: So that's the energy we give all we don't got. No,

1069
00:59:34,120 --> 00:59:36,920
Speaker 1: I don't care energy about these goals and this business

1070
00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:40,120
Speaker 1: and how we're moving and I palletting in our progress.

1071
00:59:40,200 --> 00:59:43,200
Speaker 1: We got real circumstances that we got a bad back

1072
00:59:43,200 --> 00:59:47,240
Speaker 1: because for us, everything is on the line. See that's

1073
00:59:47,240 --> 00:59:50,520
Speaker 1: how you know a nigga being carried and not climbing,

1074
00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:53,840
Speaker 1: because when you're climbing, you feel different about the fall.

1075
00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:57,080
Speaker 1: You see what I'm saying. You feel different about the

1076
00:59:57,080 --> 00:59:59,440
Speaker 1: fall when you the nigga that climbed the mountain. You

1077
00:59:59,520 --> 01:00:01,440
Speaker 1: see what I'm saying, when the nigga brought you up

1078
01:00:01,480 --> 01:00:03,160
Speaker 1: here to the top and it was easy to get

1079
01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:05,680
Speaker 1: you don't it don't seem to say you don't care

1080
01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:08,680
Speaker 1: letter shit burned down. It's like yo, and I know

1081
01:00:08,760 --> 01:00:10,840
Speaker 1: you don't really feel like that. So I think it's

1082
01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:14,280
Speaker 1: irresponsible for him to keep perpetuating that. I know that's

1083
01:00:14,320 --> 01:00:17,960
Speaker 1: a defense. I know what that is. I can identify

1084
01:00:18,080 --> 01:00:21,960
Speaker 1: with that, but I think it's irresponsible. I think it's

1085
01:00:21,960 --> 01:00:27,919
Speaker 1: an irresponsible solution for the problem that you face when

1086
01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:31,360
Speaker 1: you got a unique opportunity. You may not never be

1087
01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:34,919
Speaker 1: on the podcast with that much visibility ever again, if

1088
01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:38,640
Speaker 1: that doesn't work out, you got to think about that. See.

1089
01:00:38,720 --> 01:00:41,600
Speaker 1: I get to operate like this here because I get

1090
01:00:41,600 --> 01:00:44,040
Speaker 1: to flex my muscles. I don't have no co host

1091
01:00:44,120 --> 01:00:47,840
Speaker 1: of none and were popping popping. The culture really loved us,

1092
01:00:47,840 --> 01:00:50,680
Speaker 1: and we love the culture, and so for us it's

1093
01:00:50,680 --> 01:00:53,640
Speaker 1: a little different. But for somebody like you who didn't

1094
01:00:53,640 --> 01:00:56,200
Speaker 1: put no blood, sweating tears in doing what it is

1095
01:00:56,240 --> 01:00:59,720
Speaker 1: you're doing and being paid for. Man, homie, you got

1096
01:00:59,720 --> 01:01:04,800
Speaker 1: to you a little more gratitude with your attitude. Now, yeah,

1097
01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:07,040
Speaker 1: you got to have a little more gratitude with your

1098
01:01:07,040 --> 01:01:09,840
Speaker 1: attitude because you lucked up and fell in this position.

1099
01:01:10,480 --> 01:01:12,520
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You can't then tell me

1100
01:01:12,600 --> 01:01:14,960
Speaker 1: after I've made it through that rough time, because see,

1101
01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:17,640
Speaker 1: you could have said that when it first happened. You

1102
01:01:17,640 --> 01:01:19,400
Speaker 1: could have been like, I don't care and he got

1103
01:01:19,400 --> 01:01:22,200
Speaker 1: to just bite that. But now I got six people

1104
01:01:22,280 --> 01:01:24,960
Speaker 1: up here I can lose one and it don't do

1105
01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:27,840
Speaker 1: it mean something next week? Is they really gonna say something.

1106
01:01:28,040 --> 01:01:30,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take a hit just because who I am,

1107
01:01:30,080 --> 01:01:33,960
Speaker 1: But what's happening with that? It does that change the

1108
01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:36,720
Speaker 1: show in a better way? Like don't make a nigga

1109
01:01:36,800 --> 01:01:39,960
Speaker 1: start to consider that. I gotta be telling my editing. God,

1110
01:01:40,440 --> 01:01:43,600
Speaker 1: be on your job, because if I seen you a clipman,

1111
01:01:43,640 --> 01:01:45,760
Speaker 1: I sent another dude to clipman. He get it to

1112
01:01:45,880 --> 01:01:48,920
Speaker 1: me faster, better, and it's I'm staying. Don't made me

1113
01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:53,200
Speaker 1: consider replaying shit? Can I replace that? Motherfucker? Is it

1114
01:01:53,240 --> 01:01:55,760
Speaker 1: better without that? When you start thinking like that, I'm

1115
01:01:55,800 --> 01:02:01,760
Speaker 1: already into the territory while our relationship is vulnerable. Pay attention, fam.

1116
01:02:01,840 --> 01:02:04,040
Speaker 1: You can have the entire WOOT thing playing, the boot

1117
01:02:04,080 --> 01:02:07,640
Speaker 1: Can't Click and the Dungeon family and like everybody up.

1118
01:02:07,720 --> 01:02:10,880
Speaker 1: As long as my check stays the same, I'm cool.

1119
01:02:11,240 --> 01:02:14,240
Speaker 1: I don't care. I'm just at work. I'm here to

1120
01:02:14,280 --> 01:02:17,680
Speaker 1: do my part. I hear everything everybody's saying, Yo, we

1121
01:02:17,720 --> 01:02:19,440
Speaker 1: don't like Ice when he talked about this, or we

1122
01:02:19,480 --> 01:02:21,880
Speaker 1: love Ice when you talk about that. I don't care.

1123
01:02:22,280 --> 01:02:26,240
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna be me. I don't waiver I'm just

1124
01:02:26,240 --> 01:02:29,200
Speaker 1: gonna be who I am whoever like it, like it, whatever, don't, don't,

1125
01:02:29,240 --> 01:02:32,360
Speaker 1: And hey man, I'm at work. I'm just doing my job.

1126
01:02:33,040 --> 01:02:35,720
Speaker 1: Because we had a whole little discussion after that, it

1127
01:02:35,920 --> 01:02:39,200
Speaker 1: ended up getting clipped out, but um, he just said

1128
01:02:39,200 --> 01:02:40,920
Speaker 1: it don't make people don't want to hear that, it

1129
01:02:41,000 --> 01:02:45,920
Speaker 1: don't make for good entertainment. He's like, you know, nobody cares.

1130
01:02:46,080 --> 01:02:48,560
Speaker 1: And I'm like, well, if you ask me what I'm done,

1131
01:02:49,360 --> 01:02:52,640
Speaker 1: why not? And so here's my thing with that, So

1132
01:02:52,720 --> 01:02:55,000
Speaker 1: let me put some context around that. So I just

1133
01:02:55,120 --> 01:02:57,480
Speaker 1: wanted to talk about being a good father. And sometimes

1134
01:02:57,480 --> 01:03:01,360
Speaker 1: he gets into that bag where it's like he almost

1135
01:03:01,520 --> 01:03:05,800
Speaker 1: uses the part like his journal, right, and Joe is

1136
01:03:05,880 --> 01:03:09,800
Speaker 1: constantly trying to, I guess tell them you gotta weave

1137
01:03:09,880 --> 01:03:18,120
Speaker 1: in and out of like entertainment, personality and um and lifestyle.

1138
01:03:18,120 --> 01:03:20,760
Speaker 1: I think he's trying to kind of tap them in

1139
01:03:20,800 --> 01:03:23,040
Speaker 1: a way to kind of be what he sees the

1140
01:03:23,760 --> 01:03:26,960
Speaker 1: show being, right, And I don't think that Ice is

1141
01:03:27,000 --> 01:03:30,440
Speaker 1: tuned in and tapped in the even podcasting in that way.

1142
01:03:30,560 --> 01:03:33,480
Speaker 1: So I don't think he responds to understanding what you mean.

1143
01:03:33,520 --> 01:03:36,720
Speaker 1: He thinks that's a personal attack, which I do understand

1144
01:03:36,800 --> 01:03:39,560
Speaker 1: how they can feel personal y' don't tell me I

1145
01:03:39,600 --> 01:03:41,680
Speaker 1: can't talk about being a good father when you can.

1146
01:03:41,760 --> 01:03:44,680
Speaker 1: You can bring up picking your son up, or you

1147
01:03:44,720 --> 01:03:48,200
Speaker 1: can bring up shopping with your baby mama with your

1148
01:03:48,200 --> 01:03:51,360
Speaker 1: son now, or you can bring up certain things with

1149
01:03:51,480 --> 01:03:54,600
Speaker 1: your family. And that's entertainment. Was because I know how

1150
01:03:54,640 --> 01:03:57,240
Speaker 1: to do it. So say that, say that it is

1151
01:03:57,640 --> 01:03:59,920
Speaker 1: something you just gotta figure out your way to do it.

1152
01:04:00,040 --> 01:04:02,440
Speaker 1: Don't just tell me it ain't entertainment, right. And I

1153
01:04:02,480 --> 01:04:05,480
Speaker 1: think again, as a boss, as the leader, as the

1154
01:04:05,560 --> 01:04:10,400
Speaker 1: captain of the ship, I think authority and communication are cousins.

1155
01:04:10,440 --> 01:04:12,400
Speaker 1: You got to figure out a way if you are

1156
01:04:12,440 --> 01:04:15,320
Speaker 1: the leader and the top of it, to communicate with

1157
01:04:15,360 --> 01:04:18,840
Speaker 1: the people who are owner ship with you, right, or

1158
01:04:18,960 --> 01:04:22,439
Speaker 1: you gotta get them off the ship if they're not listening, right,

1159
01:04:22,480 --> 01:04:24,560
Speaker 1: if they don't, if they can't see the v they

1160
01:04:24,560 --> 01:04:26,720
Speaker 1: got to get off the ship. But what you can't

1161
01:04:26,760 --> 01:04:30,480
Speaker 1: do is just basically say, hey, what you're doing ain't

1162
01:04:30,480 --> 01:04:33,560
Speaker 1: good while I'm doing it, because now it's like, damn you,

1163
01:04:33,840 --> 01:04:36,200
Speaker 1: you're trying. You're making a clear difference as to the

1164
01:04:36,200 --> 01:04:38,680
Speaker 1: approaches we can have on the pard And now that

1165
01:04:38,800 --> 01:04:42,400
Speaker 1: makes me apprehensive. What do I say? What is entertainment? Damn,

1166
01:04:42,400 --> 01:04:45,520
Speaker 1: it's that you're forcing me just to disrespect people. Now

1167
01:04:45,520 --> 01:04:48,479
Speaker 1: I just gotta say, Wow, shit, this nigga here ain't nothing.

1168
01:04:48,760 --> 01:04:51,240
Speaker 1: That album ain't nothing. Take him. I gotta say shit

1169
01:04:51,400 --> 01:04:53,720
Speaker 1: like that for you to clap it up. Yeah, it's

1170
01:04:53,760 --> 01:04:59,960
Speaker 1: like understanding that stuff not nobody cares from from from

1171
01:05:00,120 --> 01:05:02,160
Speaker 1: standpoint of like if you watch a TV show, right,

1172
01:05:02,880 --> 01:05:04,800
Speaker 1: like we talked about it before, watching a car cry,

1173
01:05:05,080 --> 01:05:09,120
Speaker 1: you know, that's the more entertaining not and he said,

1174
01:05:09,160 --> 01:05:11,120
Speaker 1: he said, yo, which makes for the better story the

1175
01:05:11,240 --> 01:05:15,280
Speaker 1: good girl. That was the question he post So he

1176
01:05:15,320 --> 01:05:17,320
Speaker 1: wants you to lie and say you're a bad father

1177
01:05:17,480 --> 01:05:20,240
Speaker 1: or I'm not taking the next level if that's what

1178
01:05:20,240 --> 01:05:24,040
Speaker 1: it takes, Like maybe not lab but just he probably

1179
01:05:24,080 --> 01:05:26,840
Speaker 1: wanted to have like more than negative aspects you know

1180
01:05:26,960 --> 01:05:30,560
Speaker 1: from time to time instead and but again, but you

1181
01:05:30,600 --> 01:05:33,840
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, like and and for me, like

1182
01:05:33,880 --> 01:05:35,760
Speaker 1: my daughter will be three at the end of this month,

1183
01:05:36,400 --> 01:05:39,280
Speaker 1: I'm still new at this brand new you get what

1184
01:05:39,320 --> 01:05:41,880
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like, I'm still in quote unquote the honeymoon phase,

1185
01:05:41,960 --> 01:05:44,480
Speaker 1: if you want to call it that. Like I went

1186
01:05:44,560 --> 01:05:47,880
Speaker 1: from never having a child for as long as I've

1187
01:05:47,880 --> 01:05:51,440
Speaker 1: been alone to now being a father, and it's is

1188
01:05:51,560 --> 01:05:55,080
Speaker 1: all brand. I'm still but I'm still like again, it's me.

1189
01:05:55,400 --> 01:05:57,120
Speaker 1: It's it's not even a matter of bring it up.

1190
01:05:57,120 --> 01:05:59,600
Speaker 1: Don't bring it up when you say, yo, what y'all

1191
01:05:59,600 --> 01:06:01,840
Speaker 1: do this? Like I'm picking my daughter off tomorrow morning?

1192
01:06:02,000 --> 01:06:03,400
Speaker 1: So when we get in this here, which I do

1193
01:06:03,440 --> 01:06:05,600
Speaker 1: this weekend. Help, I did this and I picked my

1194
01:06:05,640 --> 01:06:07,240
Speaker 1: baby up. We went here, we did that, like I

1195
01:06:07,280 --> 01:06:11,400
Speaker 1: got they played tomorrow. So that's just it. That is me.

1196
01:06:11,560 --> 01:06:15,959
Speaker 1: That's what I Why did my time consists of being

1197
01:06:16,000 --> 01:06:20,000
Speaker 1: with my daughter and not and and working. That's it.

1198
01:06:20,000 --> 01:06:22,720
Speaker 1: It's less for it. I don't feel the pressure like

1199
01:06:23,560 --> 01:06:28,120
Speaker 1: because one I like talking to them too. Yeah, like

1200
01:06:28,640 --> 01:06:30,760
Speaker 1: so now the fans are asking them, yo, you feel

1201
01:06:30,760 --> 01:06:32,959
Speaker 1: the pressure, will Flip that he taking over the show

1202
01:06:33,000 --> 01:06:36,160
Speaker 1: and you board to like this still And I granted

1203
01:06:36,240 --> 01:06:39,640
Speaker 1: I've known Flip for some years now. I just met

1204
01:06:39,680 --> 01:06:41,800
Speaker 1: Melissa when she started coming around doing the pod stuff.

1205
01:06:42,160 --> 01:06:45,240
Speaker 1: But I've known Flip for years. Even even when yo, yo,

1206
01:06:45,280 --> 01:06:47,440
Speaker 1: you'll stop playing with me like that, like it's not personal,

1207
01:06:48,000 --> 01:06:50,880
Speaker 1: like see, the beautiful thing is they bring they both

1208
01:06:50,920 --> 01:06:54,720
Speaker 1: bring something that's independent and unique to them. So like

1209
01:06:55,080 --> 01:06:58,720
Speaker 1: flip bringing that that animation Like me and me and issue,

1210
01:06:58,720 --> 01:07:02,320
Speaker 1: we're not animated. It took a lot to get me animated.

1211
01:07:02,360 --> 01:07:05,120
Speaker 1: I get mad if I actually do get animated, because

1212
01:07:05,160 --> 01:07:07,000
Speaker 1: that's just not who I am. Like I tell Joe

1213
01:07:07,120 --> 01:07:09,800
Speaker 1: when whenever I do get animated, I'm like, bro, you

1214
01:07:09,920 --> 01:07:13,080
Speaker 1: brought me out of my character with what that's who

1215
01:07:13,120 --> 01:07:15,160
Speaker 1: he is. He come there looking for a reason to

1216
01:07:15,200 --> 01:07:18,320
Speaker 1: get animated. He can't wait, like, yo, that's what I

1217
01:07:18,360 --> 01:07:19,880
Speaker 1: want to do. Let me turn up and let me

1218
01:07:19,880 --> 01:07:22,240
Speaker 1: start acting. Getting here like y'all flip all it over

1219
01:07:22,320 --> 01:07:25,080
Speaker 1: like I'm not doing that. So for me, I'll be like,

1220
01:07:25,200 --> 01:07:27,880
Speaker 1: damn you let me. I let you get me out

1221
01:07:27,880 --> 01:07:31,800
Speaker 1: of myself. And I don't like it. You see, he's

1222
01:07:31,840 --> 01:07:34,680
Speaker 1: it seems like again that is ice from the Joe

1223
01:07:34,720 --> 01:07:37,640
Speaker 1: Buddon Park. It just seems like he's attaching his podcast

1224
01:07:37,680 --> 01:07:42,160
Speaker 1: stuff to personal like it's like personal attach not understanding

1225
01:07:42,200 --> 01:07:46,440
Speaker 1: it's entertainment. This is like entertainment. So you coming on

1226
01:07:46,520 --> 01:07:48,520
Speaker 1: here trying to say, fayya, don't talk to me like that.

1227
01:07:48,640 --> 01:07:50,480
Speaker 1: Y'all don't say that, y'all don't do this y'all don't

1228
01:07:50,520 --> 01:07:54,160
Speaker 1: do that. Some almost like you think your rep is

1229
01:07:54,200 --> 01:07:56,680
Speaker 1: on the line or something. It's some kind of weird feeling.

1230
01:07:56,720 --> 01:08:00,080
Speaker 1: I don't know it has being received. So with now

1231
01:08:00,240 --> 01:08:04,560
Speaker 1: it's less pressure because the entertainment aspect of and the

1232
01:08:04,720 --> 01:08:09,160
Speaker 1: turning up and just the jokey I got somebody that

1233
01:08:09,200 --> 01:08:14,760
Speaker 1: could do that. Melissa is an intelligent woman that can

1234
01:08:14,960 --> 01:08:20,240
Speaker 1: articulate herself. She brings something that we don't have. So

1235
01:08:20,479 --> 01:08:22,760
Speaker 1: they all are. It's not like nobody's coming in and

1236
01:08:23,240 --> 01:08:26,439
Speaker 1: being and being me. Nobody's coming in and being Ish,

1237
01:08:26,560 --> 01:08:29,160
Speaker 1: nobody's coming in and being Joe. Nobody's coming in and

1238
01:08:29,240 --> 01:08:32,000
Speaker 1: being parts. They coming in being them. So it's just

1239
01:08:32,080 --> 01:08:35,200
Speaker 1: additions to the part. So when it's additions, it larns.

1240
01:08:35,760 --> 01:08:38,240
Speaker 1: It lessens the burden on everybody but me. If that's

1241
01:08:38,400 --> 01:08:40,880
Speaker 1: what if Joe, What if Joe told y'all one of

1242
01:08:40,960 --> 01:08:43,439
Speaker 1: y'all take a few pods off? All right, listen, you

1243
01:08:43,479 --> 01:08:45,800
Speaker 1: can tell me take a month off my long at

1244
01:08:45,880 --> 01:08:50,200
Speaker 1: my checks stay the same. I keep trying to explain,

1245
01:08:50,280 --> 01:08:53,040
Speaker 1: this is the part that y'all keep missing. Bro. As

1246
01:08:53,120 --> 01:08:56,679
Speaker 1: much as I love like Joe's my daughter's godfather, that's family.

1247
01:08:56,760 --> 01:09:00,719
Speaker 1: I love them to death. I love you not say

1248
01:09:00,760 --> 01:09:04,160
Speaker 1: that publicly, and had been watching what it just happened

1249
01:09:04,160 --> 01:09:07,720
Speaker 1: between the last crew because when Rory then went on

1250
01:09:07,760 --> 01:09:09,679
Speaker 1: that other pot and was like, Yo, man, I don't

1251
01:09:09,680 --> 01:09:12,080
Speaker 1: really care, he said, he brought that back up when

1252
01:09:12,120 --> 01:09:14,240
Speaker 1: they was beef and here you are saying you don't

1253
01:09:14,280 --> 01:09:18,800
Speaker 1: care ish parts, My god love parts like I love

1254
01:09:18,840 --> 01:09:20,439
Speaker 1: the show all of that. This is still this is

1255
01:09:20,880 --> 01:09:22,720
Speaker 1: It's like when you when you know, when you go

1256
01:09:22,760 --> 01:09:24,960
Speaker 1: to work and whatever you're dealing with, you check that

1257
01:09:25,080 --> 01:09:27,519
Speaker 1: at the door because now you're you're here, you're this

1258
01:09:27,640 --> 01:09:31,640
Speaker 1: is work. And then when you leave work, whatever and

1259
01:09:31,680 --> 01:09:33,800
Speaker 1: you're dealing with at work, you leave it at work

1260
01:09:33,840 --> 01:09:36,479
Speaker 1: because now your work day is over. That's that's going

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Speaker 1: to work. That's the job. That's all that. That's the job.

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Speaker 1: I love it now just so happens. Our job is fun,

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Speaker 1: Our job is with friends. A lot of people don't

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Speaker 1: have those purpose, those benefits, but that's going that's my

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Speaker 1: job at the end of the day. So he said, Yo,

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Speaker 1: take a couple of pots off. Hey cool, we ain't

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Speaker 1: got no beef. I'm not mad at you as long

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Speaker 1: as my I'm here, because this is my job. I

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Speaker 1: have bills, I have me As long as that's not affected,

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Speaker 1: no problem. That's why I keep telling people when they ask,

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Speaker 1: oh yo, yo, he bringing in this person, he bringing

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Speaker 1: this person. You can have a hundred people here, mike

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Speaker 1: up as long as it don't affect this and and

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Speaker 1: and everybody's happy by all means. Dude, you gotta do

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Speaker 1: I want to ask. I just want to do that.

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Speaker 1: Whereof it almost feel like, Yo, don't mess up my paycheck,

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Speaker 1: don't fire me. And they gotta built you out when

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Speaker 1: them dudes left for you. Do not fuck with my paycheck.

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Speaker 1: I built you out when them dudes left for you.

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Speaker 1: This is my job, this is my family, this is

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Speaker 1: my like. Yeah, I'm attaching. I'll left to that and

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Speaker 1: I quit my job. Bro, You'll fuck what the fans say.

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Speaker 1: Don't fire me now? When does that well off? When

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Speaker 1: if I let you sit on this couch long enough

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Speaker 1: to what? Now? You should have built your own brand,

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Speaker 1: when you can sustain that amount of money yourself paying

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Speaker 1: yourself that or do I have to hire you for

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Speaker 1: life now because of it? At State Farm, we're committed

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Speaker 1: to uplifting black futures in collaboration with organizations like one

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Speaker 1: hundred Black Men and National Urban League. State Farm provides

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Speaker 1: high school students with the opportunity to learn and apply

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Speaker 1: best practice strategies for saving and investing, all while offering

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Speaker 1: academic support, life skills, and exposure to college access programs

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Speaker 1: to prepare these students for life after high school. Check

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Speaker 1: org to donate and learn more. Like a good neighbor,

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Speaker 1: State Farm is there. At State Farm, we're committed to

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Speaker 1: uplifting Black futures in collaboration with organizations like one hundred

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Speaker 1: Black Men and National Urban League. State Farm provides high

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Speaker 1: school students with the opportunity to learn and apply best

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Speaker 1: practice strategies for saving and investing, all while offering academic support,

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Speaker 1: life skills, and exposure to college access programs to prepare

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Speaker 1: these students for life after high school. Check out one

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Speaker 1: hundred black Men dot org and NUL dot org to

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Speaker 1: donate and learn more. Like a good neighbor, State Farm

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Speaker 1: is There.