WEBVTT - Progressive El-Sayed Secures Crucial Primary; Houthi Threat amid Hormuz Talks

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<v Speaker 1>Bloomberg Audio Studios, Podcasts, Radio News.

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<v Speaker 2>Good morning.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm Nathan Hager and I'm Karen Moscow. Here are the

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<v Speaker 3>stories we're following today.

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<v Speaker 4>Karen will have the latest on progress toward an Iran

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<v Speaker 4>deal in a moment. But we begin this morning with

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<v Speaker 4>politics in this country. Voters headed to the polls for

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<v Speaker 4>primary elections in five states. The race to watch is

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<v Speaker 4>in Michigan, where a hard fought Senate race could signal

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<v Speaker 4>the direction of the Democratic Party. With ninety four percent

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<v Speaker 4>of votes counted, NBC News is projecting progressive Abdul el

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<v Speaker 4>Sayad will defeat Establishment back to Congresswoman Haley Stevens forty

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<v Speaker 4>eight point seven to forty seven point three percent. Now,

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<v Speaker 4>the Associated Press has yet to call this race, and

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<v Speaker 4>Elsayad told his supporters last night he knew it was

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<v Speaker 4>going to be tight.

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<v Speaker 5>We all knew they were going to spend their money.

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<v Speaker 5>We didn't know they were going to spend seventy million.

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<v Speaker 2>Dollars of their money.

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<v Speaker 5>We didn't know that they were going to out spend

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<v Speaker 5>US eleven dollars to one. And yet we're still standing now.

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<v Speaker 4>If Abdul al Sayad's lead holds, it would be the

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<v Speaker 4>biggest win in a progressive way for Democrats that started

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<v Speaker 4>in New York and stretched as far as Colorado. The

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<v Speaker 4>winner in Michigan will face former Republican Congressman Mike Rodgers,

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<v Speaker 4>in a state that President Trump carried in two of

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<v Speaker 4>the last three elections.

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<v Speaker 3>Well Nathan. Democrats are also focusing in on Virginia their

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<v Speaker 3>quest to take control of the House in November. Voters

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<v Speaker 3>there went with establishment candidates in two districts that the

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<v Speaker 3>party hopes to flip in November. In the first district,

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<v Speaker 3>Richmond era prosecutor Shannon Taylor won the Democratic primary with

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<v Speaker 3>fifty three percent of the vote. She'll face longtime Republican

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<v Speaker 3>incumbent Rob Woodman, and in the military heavy second district,

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<v Speaker 3>it'll be a rematch between a Democratic former Congresswoman Elaine Lauria,

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<v Speaker 3>and the Republican who ousted her in twenty twenty two,

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<v Speaker 3>Jen Kiggins. Lauria won her primary with eighty percent of

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<v Speaker 3>the vote. Republicans also held a Senate primary in Virginia,

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<v Speaker 3>and Army veteran Berg Misusawa won that race with fifty

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<v Speaker 3>one percent of the vote. He'll face Democrat Mark Warner

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<v Speaker 3>in November.

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<v Speaker 4>Nan Karada was a primary election night as well in Kansas, Missouri,

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<v Speaker 4>and Washington State. Checking some of the key races in

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<v Speaker 4>those states, Democrat Marie Glusen camp Perez held off a

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<v Speaker 4>progressive challenge in Washington's third district with thirty nine percent

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<v Speaker 4>of the vote.

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<v Speaker 2>She goes on to face Republican John Brawn in November.

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<v Speaker 4>In Missouri, Democratic Congressman Wesley Bell held off a challenge

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<v Speaker 4>from the progressive he unseated two years ago Corey Bush

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<v Speaker 4>by a vote of fifty nine to thirty seven percent.

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<v Speaker 4>And Kansas voters rejected a Republican backed constitutional amendment that

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<v Speaker 4>would have required direct elections of state Supreme Court justices.

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<v Speaker 4>The vote there was sixty one percent against to thirty

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<v Speaker 4>nine percent in favor.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, let's get to the latest developments in the Middle

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<v Speaker 3>East and Nathan. The prospect of an interim deal focused

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<v Speaker 3>on the Strait of horm Mooz is gaining traction this morning.

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<v Speaker 3>Cutter says a proposal had been drafted in both both

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<v Speaker 3>American and Iranian officials sounded hopeful about reopening the crucial waterway.

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<v Speaker 3>President Trump spoke with reporters last night in Los Angeles.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it'd be very smart to make a deal.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll see what happens. They had a very good day.

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<v Speaker 2>The negotiations were good.

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<v Speaker 3>And we get more on the negotiations from Bloomberg Middle

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<v Speaker 3>East reporter Aber albu Omar.

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<v Speaker 6>We could see a deal coming about in the next

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<v Speaker 6>day or so today, even as imminent as today, suggesting

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<v Speaker 6>some sort of opening to the Strait of her Moves

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<v Speaker 6>to get a trickle of movement through it.

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<v Speaker 3>Now.

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<v Speaker 6>Qatar, which has been mediating this between the US and Iran,

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<v Speaker 6>said that a draft language was put in place for

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<v Speaker 6>both parties to review. Nothing is finalized yet. President Trump

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<v Speaker 6>saying earlier the Iranians were talking to him, that they

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<v Speaker 6>were happy to talk, that they called him and asked

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<v Speaker 6>to talk about the reopening of the Street of her Moos.

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<v Speaker 6>We also heard from Mark Rubio Scott Pessant about a

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<v Speaker 6>deal that could be imminent about the reopening of the

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<v Speaker 6>Strait of her Moves and.

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<v Speaker 3>As Spoomberg Middle East reporter Aber rabu Omar, who says

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<v Speaker 3>a sixty day agreement on shipping through the strait is

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<v Speaker 3>being prepared and Axios is reporting no tolls or fees

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<v Speaker 3>would be charged during the sixty day period.

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<v Speaker 2>Well Karen, We've been.

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<v Speaker 4>Watching oil fall over the last few days on optimism

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<v Speaker 4>over a deal, but crude is higher this morning. That's

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<v Speaker 4>after a spokesperson for the HOO the Militant said the

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<v Speaker 4>group would escalate attacks on vessels from Saudi Arabia in

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<v Speaker 4>the Northern Red Sea. Checking prices now, Brent crude is

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<v Speaker 4>up one point two percent, trading above eighty dollars a barrel.

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<v Speaker 4>West Texas Intermediates at around seventy six dollars, a gain

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<v Speaker 4>there of about a half percent. Meanwhile, American Petroleum Institute

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<v Speaker 4>CEO and President Mike Summer says traffic through the Strait

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<v Speaker 4>will need the increase for gas prices in this country

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<v Speaker 4>to drop.

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<v Speaker 7>Unfortunately, we're still not getting enough product through the Strait

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<v Speaker 7>of horm Mooves, even at the highest ends. They're saying

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<v Speaker 7>that we're getting only about seven million barrels of oil

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<v Speaker 7>through the Strait of her Moves at this point. Because

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<v Speaker 7>of new pipeline capacity, you only need to get that

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<v Speaker 7>level up to about eleven million barrels a day through

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<v Speaker 7>the Straight because of a lot of that product now

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<v Speaker 7>flowing through pipelines.

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<v Speaker 4>American Petroleum Institute CEO Mike Summers spoke there on Bloomberg's

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<v Speaker 4>Balance of Power. You can get the full conversation on

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<v Speaker 4>the Bloomberg Video Hub at Bloomberg dot com and the

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<v Speaker 4>Bloomberg Business app.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, Nathan, there's new developments this morning in the war

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<v Speaker 3>with Ukraine, and at least seventeen people were killed in

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<v Speaker 3>Russian era attacks. Amid fresh signs that Kiev's ability to

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<v Speaker 3>defend against missile strikes is becoming exhausted. Ukraine is seeking

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<v Speaker 3>more interceptors from allies. Existing stocks for the US made

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<v Speaker 3>Patriot system that's most capable of taking out Russian ballistic missiles.

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<v Speaker 2>Star Back to the markets now, Karen. Futures are mixed.

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<v Speaker 4>Following a record close on Wall Street, the S and

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<v Speaker 4>P five hundred rows one point eight percent yesterday, the

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<v Speaker 4>Philadelphia Semiconductor Index climbed six point six percent for its

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<v Speaker 4>fourth straight day of gains.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, this morning, we're watching shares of SpaceX, Nathan. They

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<v Speaker 3>are down ten percent and its first earnings report as

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<v Speaker 3>a publicly traded company, SpaceX a detailed higher AI spending

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<v Speaker 3>that overshadowed better than expected quarterly results. Revenue beat estimates,

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<v Speaker 3>while the company posted a smaller than expected loss. However,

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<v Speaker 3>capital spending sword as Elon Musk pushes ahead with his

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<v Speaker 3>AI and space ambitions. Bloomberg text at Ludlow has the details.

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<v Speaker 8>SpaceX spent a staggering eighteen point four billion dollars in

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<v Speaker 8>the quarter and the vast majority of that eighty six

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<v Speaker 8>percent was on AI infrastructure. But renting out compute capacity

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<v Speaker 8>or computing power to companies like Google and Thropic is

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<v Speaker 8>becoming a major business, and they gave lots of evidence

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<v Speaker 8>of that. Second, like where is the growth? SpaceX said

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<v Speaker 8>they will hit one hundred billion dollars in annual revenue

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<v Speaker 8>run your EATE by the end of this year, and

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<v Speaker 8>Musk even went a step further, saying they have line

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<v Speaker 8>of sight like complete confidence that SpaceX will hit one

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<v Speaker 8>trillion dollars of real revenue in twenty thirty.

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<v Speaker 3>Bloomberg text at Ludlow says SpaceX's results camp a rollercoaster

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<v Speaker 3>ride since the company's record at stock market debut in

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<v Speaker 3>June post IPO, volatility is white more than one trillion

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<v Speaker 3>dollars from SpaceX's market value, and.

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<v Speaker 4>On the conference call last night, Karen Elon Musk reiterated.

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<v Speaker 2>His commitment to Nvidia.

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<v Speaker 4>He said SpaceX will build exclusively on Nvidia chips, and

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<v Speaker 4>Nvidia shares in the pre market are up nearly two percent.

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<v Speaker 3>If in shares of Advanced micro devices are sliding their

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<v Speaker 3>down eight percent. This morning, must comments on his commitment

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<v Speaker 3>to Nvidia and the chip maker's underwhelming sales outlook weighing

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<v Speaker 3>on shares. This morning, AMD says it expects third quarter

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<v Speaker 3>revenue of about thirteen billion dollars. Well that topp the

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<v Speaker 3>average analyst estimate. It missed some lofty projections, so we

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<v Speaker 3>again more with Bloomberg Markets reporter Anthony Stevens, some of the.

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<v Speaker 9>Stock person reaction has to be put into context with

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<v Speaker 9>the year to date performance of that stock. That stock

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<v Speaker 9>is up triple digits, sets up aroun one hundred and

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<v Speaker 9>forty percent year to day. It's an eight percent replacement

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<v Speaker 9>when the earnings failed to clear the best estimates. Is

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<v Speaker 9>kind of understandable.

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<v Speaker 3>Bloomberg's Anthony Stevens on AMD's results. They come just weeks

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<v Speaker 3>after CEO Lisa Sue unveiled a new AI ship that

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<v Speaker 3>the company believes will outperform in videos.

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<v Speaker 4>In some other AI news, Karen OpenAI says some of

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<v Speaker 4>its models, along with ones from another AI lab were

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<v Speaker 4>involved in three previously unreported cybersecurity incidents. Open AI says

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<v Speaker 4>these new incidents are separate from a previously disclosed case

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<v Speaker 4>involving hugging face.

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<v Speaker 3>Nathan and California Federal Judge schaledled a twelve day trial

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<v Speaker 3>early next year, and a pair of lawsuits seeking a

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<v Speaker 3>blog Paramount's guidances one hundred ten billion dollar proposed acquisition

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<v Speaker 3>of Warner Brothers Discovery. The judge says she will hear

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<v Speaker 3>cases brought separately by a group of states and the

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<v Speaker 3>Writer's Guild of America in a single trial.

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<v Speaker 2>Both lawsuits allege.

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<v Speaker 3>That allowing the media companies to combine operations with hurt

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<v Speaker 3>competition in film and television production and distribution. Matt News

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<v Speaker 3>comes after Paramount's guidance reported earnings yesterday, posting a surprise

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<v Speaker 3>surge in second quarter profits, with cost cutting from its

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<v Speaker 3>merger last year continuing to pay off. The company said

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<v Speaker 3>it has to delivered over two point seven billion dollars

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<v Speaker 3>in annual cost savings associated with that combination and expects

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<v Speaker 3>to reach its target of three billion dollars.

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<v Speaker 3>Time now for a look at some of the other

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<v Speaker 3>stories making news in New York and around the world.

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<v Speaker 3>And for that we're joined by Bloomberg's Michael Barr Michael,

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<v Speaker 3>good Morning, Good.

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<v Speaker 10>Morning, Karen. Embattled Ohio Representative Max Miller said he's seeking

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<v Speaker 10>an ethics investigation on himself to clear his name. The

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<v Speaker 10>House Ethics Committee is reviewing allegations that Miller may have

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<v Speaker 10>engaged in domestic violence and abuse or illegal drug use.

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<v Speaker 10>Ohio Senator Bernie Moreno, his former father in law, and

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<v Speaker 10>other fellow Republicans have called for Miller to resign his

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<v Speaker 10>House seat, and political reports the White House is pressuring

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<v Speaker 10>Miller to drop his reelection bid. Yesterday, Miller spoke to

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<v Speaker 10>CNN about allegations from Moreno that he withheld a baby

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<v Speaker 10>toy from his two year old daughter a blue bunny.

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<v Speaker 11>This is nothing more than an individual who's being politically

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<v Speaker 11>vindictive in talking about a blue bunny. When I have

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<v Speaker 11>text messages I can show you from our parent coordinator,

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<v Speaker 11>who is a mandatory court reporter, who said that mister

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<v Speaker 11>Moreno would be coming over my home. And then another

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<v Speaker 11>individual came who I don't.

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<v Speaker 10>Know, Miller faces Democrat Brian Poindexter in November's election. The

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<v Speaker 10>family of a second man to die at a New

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<v Speaker 10>Jersey immigrant detention center in eight months is talking, federal

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<v Speaker 10>authorities say. Thirty nine year old Edwin Lopez Corneo died

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<v Speaker 10>Saturday at the Delaney Hall Facility in Newark after what

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<v Speaker 10>they called a medical emergency. However, his family Budge's medical

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<v Speaker 10>negligence led to his death. A New Jersey lawsuit claiming

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<v Speaker 10>poor conditions and inadequate access is making its way through

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<v Speaker 10>federal court. This woman spoke at Tuesday's news conference.

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<v Speaker 11>When we heard from the family of Edwin, you know

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<v Speaker 11>they had not even realized that he was dead.

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<v Speaker 10>Audio courtesy of CBS two. The Salvadoran was arrested in

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<v Speaker 10>June accused of entering the country illegally it's a growing

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<v Speaker 10>problem in New York City writers on illegal e bikes. Yesterday,

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<v Speaker 10>City Council Speaker Julie Mennin announced new bills focused on

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<v Speaker 10>e bike and escuder's safety. Mayor Zren Mamdani.

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<v Speaker 12>Because it is hard for New Yorkers to keep up

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<v Speaker 12>with what is legal or illegal if they're able to

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<v Speaker 12>buy it online. And our work is how to ensure

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<v Speaker 12>that each of those New Yorkers knows this is something

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<v Speaker 12>that's permitted, this is something that's not and the reason

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<v Speaker 12>it's not is because it's not safe.

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<v Speaker 10>In total, seventeen bills will be introduced in the City

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks Michael.

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<v Speaker 3>Time now for our Bloomberg Sports update, and for that

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<v Speaker 3>we bring in John Stashower.

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<v Speaker 13>Ranks Scabby John Robinson, considered the best running back in

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<v Speaker 13>the NFL, and he has cast in was looking for

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<v Speaker 13>a new contract, got it with Atlanta. He could make

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<v Speaker 13>seventy five million dollars through twenty thirty. The other top

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<v Speaker 13>running back, Jamir Gibbs, also twenty four years old looking

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<v Speaker 13>for a new deal in Detroit. Chicago made tackle Darnell

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<v Speaker 13>Wright the highest paid ever right tackle in Baltimore, gave

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<v Speaker 13>whiteout Zay Flowers a big four year, one hundred and

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<v Speaker 13>forty million dollar deal. Carlos Alcarez is with drawn to

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<v Speaker 13>the upcoming tournament in Cincinnati with that wrist injury. That

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<v Speaker 13>you're Bloomberg Sports Update.

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<v Speaker 2>Good morning, I'm Nathan Hager.

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<v Speaker 4>They are still counting the votes in Michigan, but in

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<v Speaker 4>a closely watched Democratic Senate primary, progressive Abdullah el Side

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<v Speaker 4>is holding a slim lead over establishment favorite Congresswoman Haley Stevens.

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<v Speaker 5>We should know who the victor will be tomorrow and

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<v Speaker 5>the work starts anew.

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<v Speaker 4>That was Abdullah Side stopping short of declaring victory last night.

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<v Speaker 4>This morning, we are joined by Jennifer Lawless, Professor of

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<v Speaker 4>politics at the University of Michigan. It is great to

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<v Speaker 4>speak with you this morning, professor, And as I look

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<v Speaker 4>at the results as they stand at this moment, el

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<v Speaker 4>said holds a one point two percent lead over Stevens

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<v Speaker 4>according to the Associated Press. If that holds, does this

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<v Speaker 4>seal a leftward shift for the Democratic Party more broadly

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<v Speaker 4>across the country?

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<v Speaker 2>Good morning, Good morning.

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<v Speaker 14>Well, it definitely seals a shift toward insurgent candidates. I

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<v Speaker 14>think there's been a lot of attention focused not only

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<v Speaker 14>on this race, but on races across the country that

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<v Speaker 14>are pitting these insurgents against establishing candidates. As though it's

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<v Speaker 14>really about progressives versus moderates, and most of these moderates

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<v Speaker 14>are pretty far to the left anyway. It's really a

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<v Speaker 14>lot different in terms of rhetoric and the ability to

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<v Speaker 14>fight the Trump administration.

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<v Speaker 4>How could a progressive do in a state like Michigan,

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<v Speaker 4>a swing state in the past, one that President Trump

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<v Speaker 4>has carried in two of the last three elections.

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<v Speaker 14>Well, I think it's possible for him to win. You know,

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<v Speaker 14>this is a big test because the insurgent candidates, especially

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<v Speaker 14>those who who have identified as Democratic socialists, although he

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<v Speaker 14>does not have won in mostly blue states, but there's

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<v Speaker 14>time to pivot in the general election. And I don't

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<v Speaker 14>mean switch policy views, but make a case to the

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<v Speaker 14>broader Michigan electorate that you're somebody who can represent their interests.

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<v Speaker 14>And the reality is Donald Trump's approval in Michigan is very,

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<v Speaker 14>very low. The affordability crisis is something that's very important

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<v Speaker 14>to Michigan voters, and in terms of foreign policy, they're

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<v Speaker 14>also concerned. So there's a path for him to win,

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<v Speaker 14>but he's going to have to make a really compelling argument.

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<v Speaker 13>Now.

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<v Speaker 4>In your home state of Virginia, in a couple of

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<v Speaker 4>key house races, Democrats went with more moderate candidates in

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<v Speaker 4>a couple of seats that the party's really hoping to

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<v Speaker 4>flip in their quest for the majority in November. Is

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<v Speaker 4>Virginia a moderate outlier amid the progressive Democratic wave?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think so.

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<v Speaker 14>It really requires a progressive candidate to emerge with a

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<v Speaker 14>lot of power, a lot of backing, and we just

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<v Speaker 14>didn't see that in the Virginia House races. The primaries

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<v Speaker 14>were not particularly competitive. I also think that as far

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<v Speaker 14>as Virginia is concerned, it is a pretty blue state.

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<v Speaker 14>We've elected Republican governors over time, but this is just

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<v Speaker 14>not a state where the progressive wing of the party

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<v Speaker 14>or the insurgent wing of the party has decided to

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<v Speaker 14>play actively.

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<v Speaker 4>Got about a minute left here. It is focused on

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<v Speaker 4>prospects for another interim deal between the US and Iran

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<v Speaker 4>in terms of domestic political pressure on President Trump to

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<v Speaker 4>get something done.

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<v Speaker 2>How do you see this playing out?

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<v Speaker 14>Well, I think the uncertainty and the unpredictability regarding the

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<v Speaker 14>war and all of the statements that President Trump makes

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<v Speaker 14>on a regular basis about how close we are to

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<v Speaker 14>a deal not only doesn't do any favors to the markets,

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<v Speaker 14>it also doesn't do any favors for Republican candidates who

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<v Speaker 14>would like this war to be over by the midterms

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<v Speaker 14>in November. It's unlikely that that's going to be the case.

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<v Speaker 14>And as long as they're talking about a war that

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<v Speaker 14>the overwhelming majority of Americans, including Republicans, do not support,

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<v Speaker 14>they're going to be a fighting uphill terrain.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you for this, Really appreciate your insights this morning.

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<v Speaker 4>That's Jennifer Lawless, professor of politics at the University of Virginia.

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<v Speaker 3>Karen Nathan space Ike shares their down about eleven percent

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<v Speaker 3>right now. That's right around a session low disclosed higher

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<v Speaker 3>than expected spending on its artificial intelligence business, overshadowing it

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<v Speaker 3>in aull, you're all quarterly rapport that broadly surpassed Wall

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<v Speaker 3>Street forwardcast. We want to get reaction with Bloomberg News

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<v Speaker 3>senior strategist Neil Campbling. Neil, good morning. Let's start with

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<v Speaker 3>this investor reaction. So was the bar just set too high?

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<v Speaker 3>What did investors need to hear that they didn't good morning.

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<v Speaker 15>I think they would be happy with the three division's

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<v Speaker 15>second quarterly sales data, but of course, as you mentioned,

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<v Speaker 15>it's all about the cash burn levels. So capex very

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<v Speaker 15>elevated at eighteen point three billion dollars. But I think

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<v Speaker 15>the problem here is to a degree about investing full

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<v Speaker 15>of future, and basically SpaceX needs to invest significantly on

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<v Speaker 15>the CAPEX line going forward, suggesting that that CAPEX will

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<v Speaker 15>remain at the same elevated levels for the rest of

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<v Speaker 15>this year. So if you look at the numbers, they

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<v Speaker 15>are low in absolute terms relative to the hyperscalers. So

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<v Speaker 15>the four big hyperscalors combined will spend roughly a trillion

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<v Speaker 15>dollars on Capex next year. So investors are left weight

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<v Speaker 15>wanting to know where SpaceX can afford to compete, and

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<v Speaker 15>whether they will need to come back to market at

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<v Speaker 15>some point in the future to raise more capital.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, we did hear from Elon Musk. He talked

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<v Speaker 3>for what about an hour, and he made some bold predictions,

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<v Speaker 3>including reaching one trillion dollars in revenue by twenty thirty.

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<v Speaker 3>Was there anything that Musk hand to say in that

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<v Speaker 3>car that caught your attention?

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<v Speaker 15>That one trillion dollars certainly called my attention, particularly because

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<v Speaker 15>most of that is expected to be driven really by

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<v Speaker 15>the AI revenue now an AI currently small piece of

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<v Speaker 15>the business, so whilst you have the other elements that

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<v Speaker 15>are generating the cash flow, it's really a question of

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<v Speaker 15>how you get to those numbers, and that is because

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<v Speaker 15>they will require significant investment. So I think that's where

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<v Speaker 15>we get used to the bold statements from Elon Musk,

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<v Speaker 15>but it's and his very ambitious targets, But it's a

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<v Speaker 15>question of how you pay to get to those kind

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<v Speaker 15>of numbers. That remains the questions for investors, which in

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<v Speaker 15>some respects the ambitions are of a startup type culture.

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<v Speaker 15>But the company now being public means edit it gets

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<v Speaker 15>marked to market if you like every quarter, but if.

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<v Speaker 3>Some of this will it be held by this selling

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<v Speaker 3>of his computing powdered power. And sorry, this is also

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<v Speaker 3>a future play because it did talk about these deals

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<v Speaker 3>it has with businesses like Google and Anthropics. So should

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<v Speaker 3>investors also be taking more of a look at some

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<v Speaker 3>of these deals that went into effect just recently, so

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<v Speaker 3>this we might hear more about in future earnings reports.

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<v Speaker 15>It's very true we've we've heard a similar type of

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<v Speaker 15>comment out of Meta recently in terms of the potential

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<v Speaker 15>of leasing out this compute power. I think one thing

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<v Speaker 15>we need to remember is that in the cloud infy

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<v Speaker 15>structured deals that Xai have struck with Anthropic and Google,

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<v Speaker 15>Google themselves have referred to these these kind of partnerships

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<v Speaker 15>as bridging solutions, which means that they can potentially have

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<v Speaker 15>easy exit clauses. So whilst SpaceX is building out these

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<v Speaker 15>compute capabilities, there is chances that the deals could be

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<v Speaker 15>changed in terms of terms, or that they won't be

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<v Speaker 15>able to scale significantly to sell that compute power quick enough.

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<v Speaker 15>So's many questions that it raises here.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, and just briefly, we have these lockups expiring,

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<v Speaker 3>should we expect some volatility and the shares this week

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<v Speaker 3>as a result, even more volatility.

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<v Speaker 15>I should say, yes, it has been has been volatile.

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<v Speaker 15>Some of the hedge funds have been borrowing stock to

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<v Speaker 15>look to shortening the stock now as more stock becomes available,

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<v Speaker 15>that actually might help reduce the volatility around the stock price.

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<v Speaker 15>So whilst it may pressure the stock into those kind

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<v Speaker 15>of stock sales, it could actually help longer term just

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<v Speaker 15>by the where do those set of metrics around the hedgephones.

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