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Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where we're all just thinking about

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Speaker 1: what we were doing in January of two.

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Speaker 2: Thousand and six.

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Speaker 1: That was the last time the Washington Commanders, the Washington franchise,

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Speaker 1: won a playoff game, and they've done it again. I'm

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Speaker 1: here in the Chris Westling podcast studio for the first

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Speaker 1: time since Tuesday, when these fires changed a lot of

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Speaker 1: our lives here in Los Angeles, and I'm happy to

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Speaker 1: be talking football tonight with three of my friends. Patrick

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Speaker 1: Claybonn in the studio with me, Nick Shook as always

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Speaker 1: on remote from Cleveland, and for the first time ever. Yes,

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Speaker 1: Kevin Patra coming at you in the Chris Westling podcast studio.

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Speaker 3: Welcome.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you have it beautiful place.

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Speaker 1: It is a really nice studio, and I know you

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Speaker 1: spent the day here just grinding on the computer and

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Speaker 1: you're up here for a family wedding, and it's great

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Speaker 1: to see him, my friend.

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Speaker 4: It's great to be here.

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Speaker 5: It's an interesting time to be out, yeah for you,

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Speaker 5: but you know, life goes on.

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Speaker 2: It is an interesting time.

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Speaker 1: We'll put a button in that we'll see if I

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Speaker 1: get stopped after I enter the evacuation zone. After curfew tonight,

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Speaker 1: but it is great to talk about these games.

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Speaker 2: Patrick. We were adding up.

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Speaker 1: We have fifty years of NFL experience, NFL employee experience

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Speaker 1: between the four of us tonight, So I think we'll

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Speaker 1: be able to make sense of this insane Washington.

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Speaker 6: Yes, the survivors is what we are, and we'll celebrate

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Speaker 6: the teams that did and look back at some teams

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Speaker 6: that had some chances but did not.

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Speaker 1: Okay, no more for play Let's go to Tampa Bay where, yes,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna.

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Speaker 2: Hear from Brim Weinstein at least one more time this season.

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Speaker 3: You could act for a.

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Speaker 7: Better script with this one here from thirty seven. In

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Speaker 7: the left pass more, Tyler rots the snapper Trustway will

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Speaker 7: hold Zane Gonzales lookie to send Washington into the divisional round.

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Speaker 7: Step good, hold down, kicked on its way.

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Speaker 2: It is good.

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Speaker 8: The cardiac commanders or the clutch commander day do it again.

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Speaker 2: We'll see you in Detroit.

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Speaker 6: Can't say the talks to the second the playoff.

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Speaker 1: I love it, London Fletcher, he announces like he plays man.

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Speaker 2: What a game.

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Speaker 1: Commander's Buccaneers saving frankly a two.

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Speaker 2: Games slate where we just didn't have enough close games.

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Speaker 2: We had a lot of good stories.

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Speaker 1: We set up some great games next week, but we

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Speaker 1: needed a juicy game and this was it. Jamie Daniels

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Speaker 1: does what he does, which is win the game in

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Speaker 1: the final seconds with a late drive that included a

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Speaker 1: screen pass that for a brief second I thought was

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Speaker 1: gonna be a game changing interception by Yaya Diab but

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Speaker 1: it wasn't. It was a completion, like so many of

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Speaker 1: his passes, right on the money, and the Commanders get

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Speaker 1: it done.

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Speaker 2: So much to talk about here, Shookie.

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Speaker 1: Let's start by giving the rookie his flowers, but before

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Speaker 1: diving into what went wrong for the Bucks, who had

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Speaker 1: a tricky fourth quarter. This is a wagon of an offense,

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Speaker 1: and for the Commanders to hold them to twenty points,

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Speaker 1: a lot needed to happen, self inflicted wounds and some

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Speaker 1: good plays by the Commanders defense. But ultimately, on a

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Speaker 1: night where Jaden Daniels throws for two touchdowns, he throws

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Speaker 1: Not that effect of a couple of touchdowns doesn't make

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Speaker 1: any big mistakes. He does it again, and he is

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Speaker 1: the first rookie to win a road playoff game since

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Speaker 1: Russell Wilson did it back in twenty twelve.

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Speaker 2: It is difficult to do.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, also in that group, Mark Sanchez, but that story

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Speaker 9: is different this you know, it was about the big

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Speaker 9: plays in key moments for Jane Daniels. Yeah, the rushing

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Speaker 9: he was the guy who was able to kind of

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Speaker 9: feel out the defense and then hit the edge and

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Speaker 9: dive across the line to gain for a key first down.

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Speaker 9: He was the guy who was able to bounce back

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Speaker 9: from failing and turning it over on downs on what

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Speaker 9: probably should have been pass interference in the end zone

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Speaker 9: That is the type of moxie and experience and composure

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Speaker 9: And it fits this season. You know, they ran a

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Speaker 9: tonight in the key spot to tie the game and

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Speaker 9: field goal the doint for the win, which was just

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Speaker 9: perfect for this team that has done it so many times.

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Speaker 9: But they wouldn't be here without him, and he rose

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Speaker 9: to the occasion, right.

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Speaker 1: You put it really well that he does play like

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Speaker 1: a veteran, and I think all the way back, I

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Speaker 1: always like to think about how the games start. The

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Speaker 1: very first third down of the game, they dialed up

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Speaker 1: the perfect blitz Patra and they get a hit on

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Speaker 1: Jayden Daniels and he just stands in there and hits

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Speaker 1: more time, and he just gets out of the way.

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Speaker 1: So many times tonight and so many times this season

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Speaker 1: it felt like the other defense had the perfect play

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Speaker 5: He he must be one of the most frustrating quarterbacks

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Speaker 5: to play against because of that fact that you're right

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Speaker 5: there Klaiza Kansy literally played flag football with his towel

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Speaker 5: which I thought was pretty funny. And then, like so

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Speaker 5: many times during the game, you're like, oh, they're gonna

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Speaker 5: get him on and there's gonna sack him, but he

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Speaker 2: Out of the pocket.

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Speaker 5: He's slippery and you have to be worry of his

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Speaker 5: lot of yards today, he slipped out of tackles and

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Speaker 6: Yeah, the huge Dammi Brown game, and including that big

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Speaker 6: offense that was eight to fifteen on third down, and

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Speaker 6: it and got it three times on fourth down throughout

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Speaker 6: the game, which is how this wagon of a Tampa

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Speaker 6: Bay offense only ends up with forty four offensive plays.

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Speaker 3: Greg Because they they that tom.

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Speaker 6: Of possession was thirty five minutes to twenty four minutes

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Speaker 6: in favor of the Commanders, they couldn't get back on

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Speaker 6: advantage of those opportunities. And Baker had had a boot

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Speaker 6: for the ages. Yes, that really cost me.

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Speaker 1: We'll get to that. And I am biased. I like

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Speaker 1: this buccaneer offense. I thought it was a wagon. I

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Speaker 1: beat them, especially with a flawed defense, which I think

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Speaker 1: we can say Washington have. It's a team that despite

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Speaker 2: Goes ten for sixteen today, run the ball just can't right.

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Speaker 1: Eckeler adds a little juice because he's good in the

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Speaker 1: receiving game, and he made a couple plays, but he

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Speaker 1: you think of the play to Diami Brown which set

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Speaker 1: approaching the line of scrimmage and he hits them deep.

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Speaker 1: You think about just the small margins for error that

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Speaker 3: And two at the five ten minutes to go fourth quarter.

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Speaker 7: Daniels in the gun at quarto has left three wide

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Speaker 7: step Daniels to throw for it, backpedaling into the end zone. Touchdown, touchdown,

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Speaker 3: Playing the lead.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so that touchdown comes after the first major mistake

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Speaker 1: from the Buccaneers in the fourth quarter. It was a

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Speaker 1: fumble on a handoff between Baker and Jalen McMillan, and you,

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Speaker 1: Kevin and Patrick, I mean and Patrick, you guys are

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Speaker 3: It was McMillan the whole way, Okay, I can't believe

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I can't believe he tried to make that handoff

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Speaker 4: He put it in his hip.

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Speaker 5: That's why I was I thought it was going to

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Speaker 5: be a fake and a pitch to bucket going the

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Speaker 5: other way. But but Bowl said after the game, as

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Speaker 5: Patrick said that it was supposed to be as sweet like.

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Speaker 4: It just looked off And.

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Speaker 5: I don't know why Baker didn't aboord that because it

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Speaker 5: wasn't gonna work.

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Speaker 1: He ended up tying for the league lead in fumbles.

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Speaker 1: Didn't like lose a ton, but he had a ton

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Speaker 1: of fumbles and they couldn't do much. The first three

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Speaker 1: and you're just waiting for this game to kind of

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Speaker 1: wake up. And they get the ball under two minutes

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Speaker 1: to go, and they get a touchdown to go into halftime.

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Speaker 1: ball the second half, and you think, okay, it's going.

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Speaker 1: They barely got any possessions in this game, only seven,

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Speaker 1: So their next drive was that fumble, and it's just

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Speaker 1: crazy shook to think that This Buccaneer season, which was

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Speaker 1: led by a top five offense, ends on a failed

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Speaker 1: handoff on one drive, and then the next drive they

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Speaker 1: have a third and a foot just outside the ten

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Speaker 1: yard line, and that was a some sort of botch

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Speaker 1: snap situation where him and the center are not on

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Speaker 1: the same page. Graham Barton snaps it the rest of

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Speaker 1: the offensive line and Baker seemed totally surprised. They lose

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Speaker 1: a couple of yards on the play and decide to

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Speaker 1: kick a field goal.

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Speaker 2: What a what a.

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Speaker 1: Weird and brutal way, I guess I would say for

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Speaker 1: a season to end.

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Speaker 9: It was the worst possible time for the basic fundamentals

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Speaker 9: to break down. That fumble on the handoff to McMillan,

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Speaker 9: I can't believe it's over already when it was right

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Speaker 1: Right And I can almost hear what commanders fans are

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Speaker 6: Todd Bowles was perfect on fourth down on his decisions.

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Speaker 1: Them, right, right, But you gotta take your chance you

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Speaker 6: The They just had third in the foot right, and

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Speaker 5: Though that's not who he is. That's not who he is. Though,

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Speaker 1: Literally dan Quinn's guy for the Commanders. That wouldn't have

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Speaker 1: remember me back in the NFC, Remember when uh that

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Speaker 10: About seventeen Rodrick Campbell.

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Speaker 1: It's just like we would have remembered. We would have

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Speaker 1: Frustrating close loss where people aren't happy with the game management,

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Speaker 9: We remember this because Todd Bowles defense didn't stand up

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Speaker 10: Ultimately, they fell short.

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Speaker 9: Everybody wants to kill Todd Bowles for his clock management

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Speaker 10: He never did.

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Speaker 9: You've kind of just been trying to find a way

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Speaker 9: out when you got Baker Mayfield, and he thrived with

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Speaker 9: you keep Liam Cohen, and you can point to all

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Speaker 9: these issues in the past with Todd Bowles, But I

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Speaker 9: Todd Bowles. Who else is out there that's going to

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Speaker 6: Yeah, considering we just outlined the difference in this game, right,

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Speaker 6: Baker's fumble. If you're hiring and firing decisions come down

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Speaker 6: I don't see a reason to. But it's fire everybody

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Speaker 1: Best case is that you return the coaching staff next year.

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Speaker 1: But Patrick, if if you're in a situation where you

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Speaker 1: you're their head coach. I think it's a serious consideration

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Speaker 1: because I think they had a special season offensively, and

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Speaker 6: It was a you know, maybe maybe folks were saying

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Speaker 3: It doesn't necessarily make sense to me.

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Speaker 6: Baker's maybe not going to lead the league in turnovers

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Speaker 1: much room and a full head of steam, he picks

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Speaker 1: up a yard and then it's a totally different game

441
00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:53,960
Speaker 1: and we're having different conversations. It's just crazy, these playoff games.

442
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Speaker 1: That's why you love him though, because everything is so magnified.

443
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Speaker 6: The play before the center was the only person on

444
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Speaker 6: his own individual snapcount. There was the Baker Mayfield like

445
00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:07,240
Speaker 6: fake run to Bucky Irving.

446
00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:10,479
Speaker 1: Right before, so Bucky Irving was first down and then

447
00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:11,120
Speaker 1: Baker was second.

448
00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:14,119
Speaker 6: So, yeah, if you're gonna fire Todd Bowles for that,

449
00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:17,239
Speaker 6: go for it. I think that would be a bad move.

450
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Speaker 1: Our friend Ali Connelly, who I believe is going to

451
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Speaker 1: join me on on a show this week, We're gonna

452
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Speaker 1: talk a little bit about the hirings and the firings

453
00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:28,119
Speaker 1: around the league. He really thought it sounded like they

454
00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:31,800
Speaker 1: had a sneak called that that Baker bailed out of

455
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Speaker 1: because of what he saw. He changed, you know, the

456
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Speaker 1: signal on that, and he changed his cadence up a little,

457
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Speaker 1: and everyone was on the same page of what Baker.

458
00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:47,000
Speaker 1: And this is just watching the tape, You're not for sure,

459
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Speaker 1: but he believes everyone was on the same page of

460
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Speaker 1: how he changed did up except for Barton clearly. And

461
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Speaker 1: that's how it ends. But man, this Commander's ride just

462
00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:04,439
Speaker 1: keeps going. They are the story of the season, absolutely fun,

463
00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:08,480
Speaker 1: and they will be heading to Detroit next weekend. That

464
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Speaker 1: is one matchup in the NFC let's go to Philadelphia

465
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Speaker 1: to determine what the other one was gonna be.

466
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Speaker 11: Tack it down to the yard, Hurts takes the football

467
00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:21,320
Speaker 11: he is gonna throw. He does in the flat, the

468
00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:24,359
Speaker 11: nice catch by Goddard, the breaks the tackler cus the

469
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Speaker 11: five touchdown Godard.

470
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Speaker 3: Piece he piece him.

471
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Speaker 8: He catches his simple Claire up Patton up into the

472
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Speaker 8: flat mel and the quarterback is there and he just

473
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Speaker 8: piece molds him, pushes him in the face, not once

474
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Speaker 8: once and into the in zone.

475
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Speaker 3: That's Dallas Goddard.

476
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Speaker 1: That is Dallas Gotter, and then that is Meryl Reeves

477
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Speaker 1: Mike quick on WIP when that play was happening and

478
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Speaker 1: he stiff armed him for about twenty straight yards and

479
00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:56,960
Speaker 1: got that third stiff arm in. I leaped up because

480
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Speaker 1: I was like, we finally got a highlight a game

481
00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:03,439
Speaker 1: that's just like not much was happening, and I felt

482
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Speaker 1: like I knew who was gonna win, and probably by

483
00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:08,840
Speaker 1: a couple scores, and that is what happened. Just it

484
00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:11,520
Speaker 1: wasn't happening, and Dallas Goddard showed up for us when

485
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Speaker 1: we needed it.

486
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Speaker 2: Twenty two to ten.

487
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Speaker 1: Eagles win a game in a way that I feel

488
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Speaker 1: like they've won a lot of games where at the

489
00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:22,119
Speaker 1: end of it people say, ah, that wasn't really like

490
00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:24,280
Speaker 1: a great performance by the Eagles. That was the B

491
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Speaker 1: minus Eagles and they still won easy. But is it

492
00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:29,920
Speaker 1: really the B minus Eagles when that's what they do.

493
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Speaker 1: They don't make mistakes on offense, and they're just an

494
00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:36,439
Speaker 1: awesome defense that just squeezes the life out of you.

495
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Speaker 1: It happened to Jordan Love today and ultimately this defense

496
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Speaker 1: is the biggest reason why they are gonna be tough

497
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Speaker 1: to beat in the NFC.

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Speaker 5: They don't give up anything easy. There was nothing easy

499
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Speaker 5: for Jordan Love all day. Those quick outs, the quick slants,

500
00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:52,720
Speaker 5: nothing came easy. There's always guys in his face I

501
00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:55,119
Speaker 5: haven't seen and we can get into the injuries on

502
00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:58,160
Speaker 5: the offensive line, but like Zach Tom was getting worked over. Yeah,

503
00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:00,520
Speaker 5: we've never seen him get worked over in a very

504
00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:04,920
Speaker 5: long time. But the Eagles defense just won this game.

505
00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:06,280
Speaker 5: And this is how they played. This is how they

506
00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:08,800
Speaker 5: played all year. They played to their opponent and they're

507
00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:11,080
Speaker 5: a defensive team. I don't know why we expect them

508
00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:13,440
Speaker 5: to be some offensive juggernaut when they haven't shown that

509
00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:16,800
Speaker 5: all year. They're big runs by Saquon Barkley and their defense.

510
00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:20,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, and the potential for a big run by Saquon

511
00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:22,520
Speaker 1: Barkley at the very end of the game, he decides

512
00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:26,280
Speaker 1: to just slide down I think after only what seventeen

513
00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:27,119
Speaker 1: yards or so.

514
00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:28,760
Speaker 2: Hell, let's listen to that call.

515
00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:32,399
Speaker 1: I'm curious how they handled what should have been a

516
00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:36,480
Speaker 1: game ending celebrat Tory touchdown by Saquon hit a pistol.

517
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Speaker 11: Again, it goes to Barkley and again he's at the

518
00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:42,840
Speaker 11: FORTI and he falls down.

519
00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:44,560
Speaker 3: He could have techned that home.

520
00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:46,879
Speaker 10: He was out in front of the world.

521
00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:49,200
Speaker 3: He could have techned that to this look.

522
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Speaker 11: But he said, I will do the genuinely thing. I

523
00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:54,360
Speaker 11: will fall down and run.

524
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Speaker 3: Off the clock.

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Speaker 8: You know, he picked up seventeen yards, but he's beyond

526
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Speaker 8: the entire defense.

527
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:02,560
Speaker 3: Do is just keep right because you can't catch this guy.

528
00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:05,399
Speaker 11: But he said, I'll fly down and saved suth for

529
00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:06,040
Speaker 11: next week.

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00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:09,680
Speaker 1: Oh that was great, especially on the TV copy where

531
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Speaker 1: they just show a beaming Howie Roseman on the sideline

532
00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:16,920
Speaker 1: and yes, a Saquon said on the after the game,

533
00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:19,399
Speaker 1: his teammates said, you could have gone further though, you

534
00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:21,400
Speaker 1: could have just ran for a while and then slot

535
00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:24,600
Speaker 1: like slid down. But now he's saving his mile age

536
00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:26,520
Speaker 1: and he did look fresh in this game. His very

537
00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:29,840
Speaker 1: first carry was bad ass, but the Packers defense was

538
00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:32,119
Speaker 1: up for It was hard earned yards all day for

539
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:34,040
Speaker 1: Saque and that's why it took so long for the

540
00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:35,000
Speaker 1: game to really be over.

541
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Speaker 3: Yeah, they crowded the line of scrimmage.

542
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Speaker 6: I thought coverage was good in toil because we saw

543
00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:45,080
Speaker 6: that Dallas Goddard touchdown which got things going. Jalen hurts

544
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:48,840
Speaker 6: that twenty eight yards passing or before that drive, then

545
00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:51,880
Speaker 6: he hits DeVante Smith for twenty eight yards. It hits

546
00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:54,840
Speaker 6: Davante again for nine yards, and then Dallas Goddard Stiff's

547
00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:57,800
Speaker 6: Valentine all the way into the end zone for that score,

548
00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:01,119
Speaker 6: where they started to get some production there from the

549
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:04,920
Speaker 6: passing game. But you worried about the Eagles there for

550
00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:07,840
Speaker 6: a while because he went I believe a couple of

551
00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:11,000
Speaker 6: possessions without a completion, and they really couldn't do anything

552
00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:13,800
Speaker 6: on offense. The defense carried this team for significant portions

553
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:14,320
Speaker 6: of the first.

554
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Speaker 4: Almost two full quarters without a completion.

555
00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:21,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, at one point, at one point he had had

556
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Speaker 1: his last completion, like with five minutes left in the

557
00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:28,240
Speaker 1: first quarter and we were mid to late third quarter.

558
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:31,320
Speaker 1: I think it was seven straight incompletions and maybe even

559
00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:33,440
Speaker 1: jumped up after that when when I rode.

560
00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:36,119
Speaker 5: Dropbacks, I think seven incompletions and he got sacked twice

561
00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:37,840
Speaker 5: and he scrambled for a negative yard.

562
00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:42,000
Speaker 1: And yet they were never really in trouble in this

563
00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:45,560
Speaker 1: game because of the defense and because Jordan Love threw

564
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:51,320
Speaker 1: three interceptions. And look, Schook, we're gonna have some annoying

565
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:53,080
Speaker 1: discourses about quarterbacks.

566
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Speaker 2: I guess that's just what happens in the offseason.

567
00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:59,199
Speaker 1: And Justin Herbert is on the AFC side, and I

568
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:01,840
Speaker 1: think Jordan Love is going to be on the NFC side.

569
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:05,520
Speaker 1: And it was an uneven game and an uneven season

570
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:07,600
Speaker 1: for Love, and.

571
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:08,919
Speaker 2: This kind of typified it.

572
00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:12,520
Speaker 1: And you give him some asterix though, because Romeo Dobbs

573
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:15,200
Speaker 1: goes out with a concussion at one point, Jayden Reid

574
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:17,480
Speaker 1: then goes out in the second half, that there was

575
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:19,600
Speaker 1: a lot going on in this game injury wise for

576
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:21,640
Speaker 1: Green Bay and they just were not ready to stand

577
00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:22,119
Speaker 1: up to it.

578
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:24,640
Speaker 9: Yeah, concussion suffered on a ball to the end zone too.

579
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:27,240
Speaker 9: Like considering situation, you know, just another loss in a

580
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:29,600
Speaker 9: terrible spot. He also didn't have Christian Watson in this

581
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:32,360
Speaker 9: game to begin with because of his knee injury, So yeah, they're.

582
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:33,280
Speaker 10: Not operating with a full cover.

583
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:35,280
Speaker 9: But you want to talk about typifying his season, I mean,

584
00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 9: this is a guy who suffered an injury to his

585
00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:39,000
Speaker 9: knee in Week one and missed a couple of games.

586
00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:40,919
Speaker 9: It just felt like he never was afforded really an

587
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:43,000
Speaker 9: opportunity to get on track. He had some great moments

588
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,159
Speaker 9: this season. That Saints game, that blow out win in

589
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 9: primetime was one of them. But when we went into

590
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:50,680
Speaker 9: this season coming off of that, you know, incredible back

591
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:52,359
Speaker 9: half that he had last year at going into the

592
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:55,040
Speaker 9: playoffs and what they did in the playoffs, you expected

593
00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:57,440
Speaker 9: more and maybe we shouldn't have expected as much once

594
00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:59,439
Speaker 9: we saw him getting hurt in Week one and it

595
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:01,760
Speaker 9: ends in anker. Now he's not the only Packers quarterback

596
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:03,320
Speaker 9: that ends up being a legend in Green Bay that's

597
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:05,280
Speaker 9: had a clunker of a playoff game. Farm did it,

598
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 9: Rogers did it. Like it's nobody's perfect. It's just that

599
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 9: for this team, it was all too fitting for how

600
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:13,679
Speaker 9: they've looked in the last couple of weeks. And against

601
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:16,400
Speaker 9: the defense like this, you can't afford to make these mistakes,

602
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:19,399
Speaker 9: even if the score is still close, because Philly's offense

603
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:21,000
Speaker 9: can't get it going. You just can't afford to make

604
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:22,560
Speaker 9: these mistakes. So that's what they're gonna come away with

605
00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:24,720
Speaker 9: a sour taste in their mouth and some questions about him.

606
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 9: But I think if any franchise is going to stay

607
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:29,000
Speaker 9: the course, it's the Packers with Jordan Love. It's just

608
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,080
Speaker 9: one of those experiences that he's gonna have to learn from.

609
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:35,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm I think the panic button should not be

610
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:37,199
Speaker 1: being pressed in Green Bay. It's one advantage of us

611
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:39,640
Speaker 1: where we're just not fit. Like you're laughing, and I

612
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:43,640
Speaker 1: even purposely sent a tweet out about it afterwards. It's like,

613
00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:46,880
Speaker 1: this team is really young, they're in a great situation.

614
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:49,360
Speaker 1: They won two more games than they did a year ago.

615
00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:52,680
Speaker 1: Their point differential actually went up by eighty ninety points

616
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:54,960
Speaker 1: a year ago. But I just knew, and then I

617
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:58,120
Speaker 1: started seeing it like Packers fans who want Lafleur fired.

618
00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:00,720
Speaker 2: Ridiculous, and like I mean that that's.

619
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 1: Ridiculous, but like, but just like making this out to

620
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 1: be some huge disappointment, and Love is a total bust.

621
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:09,640
Speaker 1: It's like Love had an eight week stretch here where

622
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 1: he was averaging nine adjusted yards per attempt. Multiple things

623
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:15,320
Speaker 1: can be true, though, and he wasn't fighting with a

624
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 1: full deck. He also did not play well today. The

625
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 1: first interception was just an overthrow. One throw really sticks

626
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:23,840
Speaker 1: out to me. A fourth down to Malik Heath where

627
00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:25,480
Speaker 1: he just he just missed the throw, and that is

628
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:27,160
Speaker 1: something that happens with Jordan Love. He just kind of

629
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 1: misses throws in a way you don't totally want.

630
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 6: But you also see the other side of that where

631
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:34,800
Speaker 6: there was the throw down the sideline to Malik Heath. Yes,

632
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 6: with pressure in his face, he goes up and gets

633
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:40,720
Speaker 6: that ball away from I believe it was Red Blankenship,

634
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:46,120
Speaker 6: a great back shoulder throat. They had spots where you've

635
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:49,880
Speaker 6: seen that those outs to Romeo Dobbs on the goal

636
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:53,440
Speaker 6: line where when that's Malik Heath right, it was.

637
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:54,440
Speaker 3: It was a tough.

638
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 6: Completion for the Packers and and Elton Jenkins going down.

639
00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 6: That was a big part of this game. Keishawn Nixon

640
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 6: absolutely recovered that fumble. I yes, no idea how that

641
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:07,720
Speaker 6: was not a clear recovery, but he's laying on the

642
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,320
Speaker 6: ground being touched by a defender holding a football with

643
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:10,880
Speaker 6: two hands.

644
00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:14,000
Speaker 4: There's I was confused of how they never gave that

645
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 4: a bear.

646
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:17,440
Speaker 6: Yeah, so their explanation the panic button situation for Green

647
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:18,720
Speaker 6: Bay was preposterous.

648
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 3: A very good Eagles team on the road. What are

649
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:21,040
Speaker 3: we doing?

650
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:25,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're talking about the fumble on the very opening kickoff.

651
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:30,840
Speaker 1: The Eagles recover it, massive hit. Good job by Oron Burks,

652
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:33,479
Speaker 1: Who's going to have a big role down the stretch

653
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:36,800
Speaker 1: here for the Eagles. Unfortunately, Nakobe Dean left with what

654
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,240
Speaker 1: looked like a serious knee injury, was carted off, and

655
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:43,480
Speaker 1: Oron Burks ended up mostly stepping in for him. But yeah,

656
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:48,240
Speaker 1: three plays later, after a Saquon run, a couple of runs,

657
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:52,320
Speaker 1: a nice one, Jalen Hurts drops back to pass and

658
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:56,280
Speaker 1: you know he still might be in that pocket. I

659
00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:58,080
Speaker 1: don't think we have that highlight, but it was just

660
00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 1: amazing to me how long he was just sitting back there.

661
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:04,880
Speaker 1: It was a reminder, like, man, this offensive line, not

662
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 1: that they were perfect tonight, but they should have a

663
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:13,440
Speaker 1: better passing game considering he gets such great pass protection

664
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 1: in the receivers at the half.

665
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 4: It's it's he.

666
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 5: He looks like he's overthinking and like he started out hot,

667
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,120
Speaker 5: he started out six for six and then he can't

668
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 5: hit the broadside of the barn. And I have an

669
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:25,240
Speaker 5: issue with whether it's Kellen Moore, whether it's Nick Sirianni.

670
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:27,719
Speaker 5: They don't give him enough easy throws or maybe he

671
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:31,480
Speaker 5: just doesn't take them. Because here when they started getting

672
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:34,400
Speaker 5: the quick to DeVante Smith and that got got heard.

673
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 3: Where was that?

674
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 5: For a quarter and a half they got it going

675
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 5: and then they scored a touchdown in four plays. Boom

676
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 5: boom boom boom boom. Quick outs, quick quick slants. They

677
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 5: just don't I don't feel like they give him enough

678
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:47,480
Speaker 5: easy reads or he's not taking them right off the bat.

679
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, when he holds it, usually good things that happen.

680
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 1: He's such an interesting player because he's so good at

681
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 1: what he does well. Even as a runner, it's very similar.

682
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:58,840
Speaker 1: It's like he is almost as good as any running

683
00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 1: back in the league. And I'm even rowing Lamar in

684
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 1: this at just downhill runs, like in terms of downhill

685
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 1: power as a quarterback and he just has to kind

686
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:09,440
Speaker 1: of move to the side or you know, run over

687
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:12,160
Speaker 1: a guy. And when he's decisive, he's as good as anyone.

688
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:14,960
Speaker 1: And yet when he starts going horizontal, the play's over. Yes,

689
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 1: like it's he it never works out. Well, he's such

690
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 1: a fascinating player. Are you concerned at all? I guess

691
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:23,720
Speaker 1: shook that on a day where they end up going

692
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 1: plus four in the turnover margin, And yes, that that

693
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:30,240
Speaker 1: one touchdown that they had, which which stood for a while,

694
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:32,720
Speaker 1: was off, you know, a very short drive.

695
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 2: Are you concerned that?

696
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 1: You know, they only get twenty two points up, They

697
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 1: didn't get three hundred yards. They only hit two third

698
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 1: downs in this game, sixteen first downs overall, like it was.

699
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 2: It was not a great offensive performance overall.

700
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 10: No, it wasn't.

701
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:48,480
Speaker 9: It's funny because when they get that turnover and then

702
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 9: they score in like three plays, I'm like, all right,

703
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:50,560
Speaker 9: here they go.

704
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:51,480
Speaker 10: They're off to the races.

705
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 3: Here we go.

706
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:53,479
Speaker 10: I know they had a short field, but they may

707
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:54,400
Speaker 10: look relatively easy.

708
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 9: I think he held the ball for six points seventy

709
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:58,880
Speaker 9: five seconds before that touchdown pass did Johan Dotson, and

710
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 9: then they just disappeared like we just described. I would

711
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 9: be more concerned against a lesser team, but Green Bays

712
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:08,040
Speaker 9: defense has been sneaky effective, and they found their way through.

713
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 9: I mean, I think it's perfect that they scored their

714
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 9: their longest touchdown pass of a low scoring game was

715
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 9: on a swing pass to a tight end who then

716
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 9: just runs over a guy for a touchdown. Like that

717
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 9: would just that fit the day for them. They're gonna

718
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 9: run into more challenges, but I think this often still

719
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 9: starts a Saquon and if that is rolling early, then

720
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 9: it opens everything else up. I also think you saw

721
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:30,360
Speaker 9: a little bit of the russ. Jalen hadn't played in

722
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 9: a few weeks. Saquon didn't play in week eighteen. I

723
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 9: think that had something to do with it as well.

724
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:36,240
Speaker 9: So maybe they have some things to correct on the

725
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 9: tape before they go into next week. I'm not panicking again.

726
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 9: Don't leave the case on the panic button here. The

727
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:42,480
Speaker 9: Eagles one, they're moving on.

728
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 1: It's fine how they win. But yes, yeah, it's kind

729
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 1: of how they win. I mean, but they were so

730
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:49,080
Speaker 1: quiet on offense.

731
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:49,400
Speaker 3: A J.

732
00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:52,240
Speaker 1: Brown olands up with one catch for ten yards and

733
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 1: mostly makes news for just reading a book on the side.

734
00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:00,400
Speaker 1: I mean, shout out to book Sky. You know I'm

735
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:02,760
Speaker 1: on Blue Sky. I'm checking out the book content there.

736
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 1: I sent out some books to Graham content of my

737
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 1: top ten favorite reads. So I just love you know.

738
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:11,400
Speaker 1: AJ Brown on the sideline reading this book.

739
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 2: So AJ Brown, well, we're figuring that out.

740
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:17,360
Speaker 5: He he's a little frustrated, obviously he hadn't seen too

741
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:19,359
Speaker 5: many balls that he's going to read a little passage here.

742
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 12: I haven't seen too many people read books, but I've

743
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 12: seen a quarterback.

744
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:31,040
Speaker 2: Eat a hot dog Mark Sanchez.

745
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 3: Certainly not in the playoffs.

746
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:33,880
Speaker 2: That's that's cool, calm and collective.

747
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 1: I was like worried for Tom's kids, you know, and

748
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:39,959
Speaker 1: he's like, I haven't seen too many people read a book,

749
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:43,720
Speaker 1: but it was on brand. A. J. Brown did tweet

750
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:47,360
Speaker 1: about it after the game, and he gave a shout

751
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 1: out to the book Inner Excellence by Jim Murphy, and

752
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:54,920
Speaker 1: he said the game's ninety percent mental, ten percent physical,

753
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:56,319
Speaker 1: brings it to every game.

754
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:59,759
Speaker 6: I read some excerpts, okay, and I will say there's

755
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:04,840
Speaker 6: some in that audio that we heard. Marshall Mather's lyrics

756
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 6: for Lose Yourself are a little more impactful than the

757
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:08,680
Speaker 6: words that I read.

758
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:11,080
Speaker 3: Wow, which is why I will be dropping for you.

759
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 6: I will be dropping my book subterranean winning coming out.

760
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 6: If any NFL players would like to hear my thoughts

761
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:21,759
Speaker 6: on success in the highest levels of competition.

762
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 1: Wow, I mean one thing I noticed when he's flipping

763
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:26,000
Speaker 1: an open and you can see it on the tweet too,

764
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 1: that was dog eared, it's underlined, It's highlighted.

765
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:32,239
Speaker 4: Highlighted and underlined the same passages. Interesting move.

766
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:33,879
Speaker 2: I mean, I love it.

767
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 1: I want to normalize just breaking out a book in

768
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 1: any situation. The funniest thing about it was I couldn't

769
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:42,360
Speaker 1: believe people were like this is crazy. Not in it,

770
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:47,279
Speaker 1: it's it's different behavior, but the idea that people are

771
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:50,239
Speaker 1: saying this was somehow divash behavior or that it was

772
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:52,440
Speaker 1: like distracted. I was like, this man is trying to

773
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:55,319
Speaker 1: center himself so that he can do his best for

774
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 1: the team. So it works for AJ. I mean, if

775
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 1: that's what is helping to create this season, he.

776
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 5: Said, he brings it every week though. I have a

777
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 5: hard time believing nobody had ever seen it before. Though,

778
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 5: because even the beat where they were like, we've never

779
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:09,920
Speaker 5: seen this, How was it never caught before?

780
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 6: They asked herts about it in the post game, he said, yeah,

781
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 6: I've seen him. I've seen him open it. I haven't

782
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:15,319
Speaker 6: seen him reading it.

783
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:18,399
Speaker 9: Oh, it's like Lebron He's always reading the first page

784
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:19,360
Speaker 9: of a book in the locker.

785
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 6: Perhaps, and I'm team book. I just you know, Greg's

786
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:23,960
Speaker 6: got some great lists of books. We can get some

787
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 6: folks some books. The self help genre is a little overdone. Yeah,

788
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:29,279
Speaker 6: a little bit.

789
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 1: I hate to criticize something I haven't really tried, so

790
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 1: it does okay, Yeah.

791
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:40,920
Speaker 2: I don't think it would help me to each there.

792
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 3: We know one thing.

793
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:43,920
Speaker 5: A J.

794
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:46,479
Speaker 9: Brown's poems were not sweaty, his knees were not weak,

795
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 9: and his arms were not heavy.

796
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:48,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, there you go.

797
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:56,319
Speaker 1: Look, Philadelphia love this team, and I and I do

798
00:36:56,440 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 1: want to just before we go, sort of member of

799
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:03,279
Speaker 1: all the football we watched this weekend, and there's been

800
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:06,440
Speaker 1: some ugly football. It kind of reminds me a Week

801
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:09,760
Speaker 1: one and two when everyone's like, oh his offense gone again?

802
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:12,920
Speaker 1: Is defense taking over? And then that went away offense

803
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:14,760
Speaker 1: was great? Then you know, for most of the season,

804
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:19,239
Speaker 1: defense is back. And I really did think watching these games,

805
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 1: specifically the Texans and then specifically the Eagles today, like

806
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:28,719
Speaker 1: Nolan Smith that sack on Tom for instance, the way

807
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 1: Dean and Bond were bouncing off of each other. Zach

808
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 1: Bond's interception just everything Zach Bond does, just if you

809
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:37,799
Speaker 1: just watch him all game, it's really fun.

810
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 2: The interception by Slay was that's beautful. That's a great play.

811
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 3: That's what I've seen all year.

812
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:46,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, And Quinjon Mitchell, I think he was thrown

813
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 2: at six times.

814
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:49,840
Speaker 1: He gave up ten yards. He had that long PI

815
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:53,359
Speaker 1: that was me embellishment in my voice. Which was one

816
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:56,239
Speaker 1: of Jordan Love's worst throws. It landed about twenty yards

817
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 1: out of bounds, Like that was uncatchable to me. And

818
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:04,680
Speaker 1: Jalen Harder was an absolute beast. They were physical as hell, Shookie, Like,

819
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:08,279
Speaker 1: this is one of the better defenses that we've seen.

820
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:10,120
Speaker 1: I always say it's so hard for a defense to

821
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 1: be really difference making in the NFL. They are the

822
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 1: best defense in the NFL. I feel like that's safe

823
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 1: to say, right.

824
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:18,800
Speaker 9: Yeah, And it actually is what's given me great confidence

825
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 9: in their chances to make the Super Bowl in these playoffs.

826
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:23,400
Speaker 9: Like I know we're talking Lions, I know we're talking

827
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:26,880
Speaker 9: vikings On, talking Eagles. Because of that defense, playing simple,

828
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:28,880
Speaker 9: they can have a game like this against anybody that

829
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:30,359
Speaker 9: they play and I think they're gonna be a challenge

830
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 9: for whoever they run into as long as they're still

831
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 9: you know, eligible to play and haven't been eliminated.

832
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 2: Right, And we don't know who they're gonna play.

833
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:42,920
Speaker 1: It's gonna be against the Monday Night football winner, and

834
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:46,799
Speaker 1: they will be playing on Sunday, So it'll be a

835
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 1: shorter week for whoever wins on Monday Night, but you know,

836
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 1: not the shortest week possible if they had to try

837
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:54,120
Speaker 1: to turn it around on Saturday. But they they get

838
00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 1: another home game. Shout out to Josh Jacobs for a

839
00:38:57,120 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 1: great performance all season long. That near touchdown he had

840
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:04,799
Speaker 1: was awesome and then he cashes it in right after that.

841
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:07,719
Speaker 1: He just had a great season, but a frustrating end

842
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:11,120
Speaker 1: for the Packers. I have not seen this video, so

843
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:15,840
Speaker 1: I am hoping it delivers. It is Matt Lafleur knocking

844
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 1: over a Gatorade bottle on the podium after the game.

845
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 2: Like I said, they played mostly some coverage the entire game, so.

846
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 3: You know, it's just.

847
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 6: Right now, nice, that's about that's about par for the

848
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:34,480
Speaker 6: night right there.

849
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:38,759
Speaker 3: So he did knocket over it just it just fell

850
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 3: over on its own.

851
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 12: Appears too so I didn't have like a time code

852
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:45,440
Speaker 12: for that happening. So I watched the whole conference, and

853
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:48,760
Speaker 12: I'm watching that bottle the whole time, just shake, shake, shake,

854
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 12: I'm waiting for it to happen. And that's the back

855
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 12: end of like a forty five second answer where he's

856
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:55,440
Speaker 12: like in deep, like what went, and it's just he

857
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:57,399
Speaker 12: and and right after you can hear the pr pers

858
00:39:57,480 --> 00:39:59,279
Speaker 12: like two more, let's get out of here.

859
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 3: I made of tom stuff.

860
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:03,919
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I thought it was a coffee mug.

861
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:08,440
Speaker 1: I watched part of that press conference to Eric, and

862
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:12,319
Speaker 1: I couldn't find like a an easy clip or that

863
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:15,920
Speaker 1: would be perfect because it was just him speaking. And

864
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 1: this is what I wanted to coaches, just him speaking

865
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:22,839
Speaker 1: off the dome for like five minutes, opening statement, uninterrupted

866
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 1: and just feeling it, just feeling the loss, so upset, frustrated,

867
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:32,319
Speaker 1: everything possible, the end of a tough season, but a

868
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:35,760
Speaker 1: good season overall for the Packers ends around though before

869
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:39,319
Speaker 1: last season, let's take a quick break. We have one

870
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:42,520
Speaker 1: AFC game to talk about on Sunday. We hit the

871
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:45,319
Speaker 1: two on Saturday. Yeah, if you're if you're wondering, how

872
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:48,480
Speaker 1: come uh, how come you guys aren't talking those Saturday games.

873
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:50,319
Speaker 2: We already did a podcast on that.

874
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 1: Go check out the podcast with me and Bill Barnwell

875
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:55,680
Speaker 1: that we taped Saturday night. After the break, we will

876
00:40:55,680 --> 00:41:00,400
Speaker 1: head to Buffalo.

877
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:05,200
Speaker 13: Pre receivers to the right, one to the left, and

878
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:07,279
Speaker 13: now Ty Johnson retreats to the backfield.

879
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 3: Here's the snap. He's gonna go.

880
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:11,720
Speaker 2: Back to pass Alan rolling out to his right.

881
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 3: Looking for somebody open.

882
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:15,719
Speaker 13: Nobody is has to throw it to the end zone

883
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:18,799
Speaker 13: for Ty Johnson, who makes a sliding catching the end.

884
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 2: Zone for a touchdown. Well, who would have expected that?

885
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:26,680
Speaker 3: Talk about stretching the playout to.

886
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 2: The last possible second.

887
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:34,480
Speaker 13: A twenty four yard touchdown strike from Allen to Ty

888
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:39,319
Speaker 13: Johnson and with that touchdown pass, Josh Allen passes Hall

889
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:42,800
Speaker 13: of Famer Jim Kelly for the most touchdowns in team

890
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:44,839
Speaker 13: history in the playoffs.

891
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:50,960
Speaker 1: Wow, good nugget there by Chris Brown on w g R.

892
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 1: Bills would roll after that another touchdown pass to go

893
00:41:57,080 --> 00:42:00,400
Speaker 1: break that record some more. Curtis samuel I had a

894
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 1: fifty five yard touchdown early in the fourth quarter.

895
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:04,880
Speaker 2: It was off to the races.

896
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:09,200
Speaker 1: Bills win thirty one to seven in a game that

897
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:12,000
Speaker 1: the Broncos led seven to nothing, that the only trail

898
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 1: that halftime ten to seven. I thought this thing might

899
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 1: go down to the wire and it didn't. Why didn't it, Patrick, Well, we.

900
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:23,759
Speaker 3: Just saw that that was the highest leverage play of

901
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 3: the game.

902
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:26,719
Speaker 6: It's fourth and one at that point, and we talked

903
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:29,839
Speaker 6: about Jalen Hurts having six point seven five seconds, same

904
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:32,760
Speaker 6: number for Josh Allen on that play, except the difference

905
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:35,319
Speaker 6: is the ball travels forty three yards in the air

906
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:39,440
Speaker 6: Josh Allen off his back fractions of an inch, fractions

907
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 6: of a second from Todd Johnson's leg being out of bounds,

908
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 6: where if I like, the game plan for Vance Joseph

909
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:48,440
Speaker 6: was to make Buffalo drive, make them earn it, not

910
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 6: give up the big plays, and get something from the offense,

911
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:54,719
Speaker 6: and they got that early, but it was just too

912
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:57,840
Speaker 6: much to overcome. They didn't hit their high leverage plays.

913
00:42:58,080 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 6: They had will Let's miss a field goal right at

914
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:02,239
Speaker 6: the end of the first half. And it's just one

915
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:04,440
Speaker 6: of those things where it was discussed on the call

916
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 6: of the game. You're an underdog on the road and

917
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 6: you're gonna have to have everything go right, and eventually

918
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 6: those things just I didn't right, especially the passing game

919
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:16,480
Speaker 6: for the Broncos, which was kind of janky and segmented

920
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:18,960
Speaker 6: after that second half started right.

921
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:21,319
Speaker 2: The Bills are such a different team this year.

922
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:24,799
Speaker 1: I know they've won in the wildcard round sometimes buy

923
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:28,080
Speaker 1: a lot before, and yet I think this game really

924
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 1: showed how much more mature they are as a team,

925
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:34,919
Speaker 1: just like they can beat you any sort of way.

926
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:38,919
Speaker 1: And I was really impressed Kevin how early they were

927
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 1: so patient with the running game. Fans Joseph was saying, like,

928
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 1: beat us this way. The Bills are like, okay, we'll

929
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 1: put our six offensive linemen out there. The run to

930
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:53,320
Speaker 1: pass ratio in the end was forty four runs twenty

931
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 1: eight passes, which is like, okay, it was a laugher.

932
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 2: You must have got out of control late.

933
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:01,440
Speaker 1: No, there was twenty two runs twelve passes early and

934
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:05,239
Speaker 1: they kept sticking with it, and more importantly, they can

935
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 1: do it really well against a good defense.

936
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:11,239
Speaker 5: Well, it made the Broncos adjust their defense because they

937
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:13,439
Speaker 5: kept pounding it and Allen was like, are you gonna

938
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 5: play two shell? I'm just gonna keep handing up. They

939
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 5: had one hundred and twenty eight yards rushing at halftime.

940
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:21,399
Speaker 5: Josh Allen had sixty nine yards passing in the second half.

941
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:24,279
Speaker 5: He flipped it because then the Broncos were like, we

942
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:26,879
Speaker 5: got to bring some blitzes. And then Josh burned him

943
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:29,719
Speaker 5: with four deep shots, two of them for touchdowns, and

944
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:32,120
Speaker 5: he he ended up with two hundred and seventy two

945
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:34,919
Speaker 5: totally passing yards. So you do the mass two hundred

946
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:37,359
Speaker 5: yards on the second half because they just got those

947
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:40,359
Speaker 5: openings because they were patient early. And if he's such

948
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 5: a more mature quarterback this year than in any other year,

949
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:46,239
Speaker 5: it's not just the not taking sacks and not just

950
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:52,359
Speaker 5: the avoiding bad turnovers. It's him understanding like, Okay, you're

951
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:54,279
Speaker 5: gonna do this to me, I'm fine with that.

952
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:55,279
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna force it.

953
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:57,440
Speaker 5: I'm gonna just hand the ball off to James Cook

954
00:44:57,480 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 5: and we're gonna run for one hundred and twenty yards.

955
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:00,919
Speaker 2: That's exactly what I mean.

956
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:03,239
Speaker 1: Even the sack that he did take in the red

957
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:05,240
Speaker 1: zone before they kicked the field goal of the seven

958
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 1: to three, that was one play. As he was stepping up,

959
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:11,480
Speaker 1: I had visions of like bad Josh Allen plays in

960
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:13,960
Speaker 1: my mind for a second, like, oh, how is this

961
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 1: gonna go They've got him totally surrounded and you could

962
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 1: see for a second and then he just took the sack.

963
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:21,440
Speaker 2: And I don't want to be the guy who's like rewarding.

964
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 1: The guy for you know, at a boy, you took

965
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 1: a sack like you devoided the negative play. But for

966
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:29,319
Speaker 1: Josh Allen, I think this performance Nick did show a lot.

967
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:32,239
Speaker 1: And you gotta love a team that goes out there

968
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:35,480
Speaker 1: and they put six offensive linemen on the field on

969
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:38,440
Speaker 1: almost a quarter of their snaps. They led the league

970
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 1: in doing this during the season, and they did it

971
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:45,919
Speaker 1: way more in this game than they usually do. And yeah,

972
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 1: Allen ends up with forty six, but Ty Johnson goes

973
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:49,719
Speaker 1: nine for forty four. They put him in for a

974
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:54,879
Speaker 1: drive and they're electric and Cook gets one twenty and one.

975
00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:58,359
Speaker 1: It's just a crazy combination to have all of those

976
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 1: guys and Josh Allen running the ball.

977
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:02,919
Speaker 9: Yeah, it's indicative of this entire Bills season. I think

978
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:04,880
Speaker 9: because they went into the offseason they lost to Fon

979
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 9: Diggs via trade and they had to kind of reformulate

980
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:10,640
Speaker 9: who they were and all the questions came, who are

981
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:12,279
Speaker 9: they going to throw it to? Well, they didn't really

982
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:13,520
Speaker 9: need to figure out who they were going to throw

983
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:15,279
Speaker 9: it to. They were just going to change who they

984
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:17,920
Speaker 9: were and not be so aggressive. Instead, take what defenses

985
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:21,000
Speaker 9: give them, be aggressive when those opportunities arose, but don't

986
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 9: force it. Just like you said, that's how you end

987
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:25,200
Speaker 9: up winning the time of possession battle forty one minutes

988
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:28,239
Speaker 9: and forty three seconds to eighteen seven. Sure, you're gonna

989
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:29,960
Speaker 9: make us work for it. Guess what you're not going

990
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:32,279
Speaker 9: to see the football. The Broncos end of this game

991
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:34,880
Speaker 9: with eight possessions, four in each half, and if you're

992
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:37,040
Speaker 9: not capitalizing on all of those, the Bills are just

993
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:38,840
Speaker 9: going to squeeze you to death. They're gonna squeeze you

994
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 9: into submission like a bowl constrictor, and it's going to

995
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:43,839
Speaker 9: look like a laugher when it really kind of wasn't

996
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 9: that case until probably after that touchdown pass to Ti

997
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:47,360
Speaker 9: Johnson we just talked about it. I mean, that's a

998
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:49,680
Speaker 9: play that takes the life out of an opponent when

999
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:51,319
Speaker 9: you're playing well enough to keep it close and then

1000
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:53,880
Speaker 9: they hit a fourth down like that, and that displays

1001
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 9: the maturity that you just spoke of. This is a

1002
00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:58,440
Speaker 9: Bills team that understands the goal ahead and the task

1003
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:00,560
Speaker 9: at hand, which is win this game and get the next.

1004
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:02,440
Speaker 9: You don't have to be flashy to do it, just

1005
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:04,040
Speaker 9: win the game and move on. And then they end

1006
00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:05,480
Speaker 9: up being flashy as a result.

1007
00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:10,600
Speaker 1: They had eight different players have at least two targets

1008
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:11,160
Speaker 1: in this game.

1009
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 2: One player had six. That's Khalioshakir caught all of them.

1010
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:17,920
Speaker 1: Everyone else had either two or three, and you were like,

1011
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:20,200
Speaker 1: who are you gonna throw it to? The answer is

1012
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 1: mostly not Amari Cooper, who is fifth on the team

1013
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 1: in snaps at wide receiver. Patrick isn't that crazy.

1014
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:30,120
Speaker 6: And one of those two catches was like a screen

1015
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:32,520
Speaker 6: ball where it's like, this is not what you get

1016
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 6: Amari Cooper for it.

1017
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:37,520
Speaker 1: He ran eleven routes and the snaps are distributed pretty

1018
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:40,399
Speaker 1: evenly where it's not like a huge gap between one

1019
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:43,400
Speaker 1: and five. But he is fifth, and it's lower than

1020
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 1: the two tight ends too, so technically it's like seventh

1021
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:50,120
Speaker 1: among possible pets catchers and it's fine, And it kind

1022
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 1: of was a sneaky one sided game. I guess it's

1023
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:56,879
Speaker 1: not that sneaky the way the second half played out,

1024
00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:58,680
Speaker 1: but I couldn't believe this stat that I saw from

1025
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:02,800
Speaker 1: Jay Skersky of I believe the Buffalo News the yardage

1026
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:05,839
Speaker 1: differential in this game four seventy one to two twenty four.

1027
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 1: That's a two hundred and forty seven yard differential. That

1028
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:13,760
Speaker 1: was the biggest in any playoff game since Cam Newton

1029
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:20,080
Speaker 1: started a game against the Arizona Cardinals. Right, And I

1030
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:23,600
Speaker 1: want you guys to guess who was the starting quarterback

1031
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:27,200
Speaker 1: for the Cardinals in this game. I mean, I would

1032
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 1: give you guys so much money.

1033
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:30,319
Speaker 3: Chilton wasn't.

1034
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:32,279
Speaker 10: This wasn't the NFC championship game.

1035
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:34,759
Speaker 2: This is this is I believe the wild card or

1036
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:35,799
Speaker 2: divisional round, that.

1037
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:37,879
Speaker 4: One where they had leg gone like through the three quarter.

1038
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:40,799
Speaker 1: That's absolutely right, and why it's a tough answer, that's

1039
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:43,640
Speaker 1: that's not right. He was I think their backup that year.

1040
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:46,279
Speaker 1: It was Ryan Linley And it was, Yes, the worst.

1041
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:47,000
Speaker 2: It was the worst.

1042
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:48,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, didn't they throw?

1043
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:51,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was the worst performance I've ever seen by

1044
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:52,479
Speaker 1: any playoff team.

1045
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:54,480
Speaker 2: It was I don't know what that yardage one was,

1046
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:55,360
Speaker 2: but it was like off.

1047
00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:58,319
Speaker 6: It was absolutely looking across at Thomas Davis and Luke King,

1048
00:48:59,440 --> 00:48:59,680
Speaker 6: it was.

1049
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:00,920
Speaker 2: It was troubling.

1050
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 3: Josh Norman.

1051
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:04,120
Speaker 1: It was a game that was over with it about

1052
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:06,560
Speaker 1: like six minutes, which you just don't see too often.

1053
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:10,759
Speaker 1: This one gave us a lot more entertainment, in part

1054
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:17,520
Speaker 1: because the Broncos offense had a great first drive. Bo

1055
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:20,720
Speaker 1: Nicks rips a third and long on his very first

1056
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:23,920
Speaker 1: you know, third down of the game, first throw of

1057
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:27,440
Speaker 1: the game, and then has a beautiful touchdown pass and

1058
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:30,120
Speaker 1: the rest of the game, I felt like there was

1059
00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:31,239
Speaker 1: a couple of drops in there.

1060
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:32,759
Speaker 2: I don't think bo Nicks played that bad.

1061
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:34,160
Speaker 1: There were a couple of times where he didn't see

1062
00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:38,440
Speaker 1: the field well and maybe panicked a bit, But I

1063
00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:40,520
Speaker 1: felt like it was kind of a full team just

1064
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:43,399
Speaker 1: we're not good enough versus like a bad Bonicks game.

1065
00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:47,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, there was the Courtland Sutton drop.

1066
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:50,440
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think doom to drive the drive at the

1067
00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:52,760
Speaker 6: end of the first half where there was a twelve

1068
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:55,840
Speaker 6: yard Bonnicks scrambled and he hit Courtland Sutton I believe,

1069
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:58,439
Speaker 6: for twenty one yards before Lutz missed the field goal.

1070
00:49:59,080 --> 00:49:59,800
Speaker 3: Just in spots.

1071
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:03,240
Speaker 6: But then when the opposition is the juggernaut that's handled

1072
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:05,680
Speaker 6: them all off a lot running the ball the way

1073
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:08,840
Speaker 6: they did, they just had to execute better, and it

1074
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:11,920
Speaker 6: just it felt like there was something missing a running

1075
00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:12,920
Speaker 6: game all season.

1076
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:14,279
Speaker 4: Really, Yeah, they can't run the ball.

1077
00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:18,200
Speaker 5: I felt like the Bills and McDermott knew exactly who

1078
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:21,040
Speaker 5: they were going at and they were gonna make Bonix

1079
00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:23,000
Speaker 5: get try to get to his second and third read

1080
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:25,080
Speaker 5: and knew he couldn't do it under pressure. He did

1081
00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:26,840
Speaker 5: not play well. This was like, I think, the most

1082
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:29,360
Speaker 5: he's been pressured in a game all season, and he

1083
00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:33,480
Speaker 5: just didn't play well. I don't think he played poorly,

1084
00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:35,919
Speaker 5: because like you said, there was those drops, but he

1085
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:38,120
Speaker 5: couldn't execute at a level that I think in two

1086
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:39,480
Speaker 5: or three years he will be able to.

1087
00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:41,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, they were it was all. It was a lot

1088
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:42,440
Speaker 2: of just misses.

1089
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:45,000
Speaker 1: Now he had a couple just missed an interception, so

1090
00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:46,960
Speaker 1: it could have gone the other way too, but just

1091
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:48,440
Speaker 1: a pass off.

1092
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:50,719
Speaker 2: Here or there. They didn't get the running game going

1093
00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:51,600
Speaker 2: all year.

1094
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:52,120
Speaker 3: Uh.

1095
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:54,440
Speaker 1: Sean Payton just talked about how look, we couldn't we

1096
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:57,239
Speaker 1: couldn't do anything on third down and we couldn't win

1097
00:50:57,480 --> 00:50:59,839
Speaker 1: their first downs at all. They were living in like

1098
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:03,040
Speaker 1: second in four all year. And you wonder if the Broncos,

1099
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:05,960
Speaker 1: who have a really good defense but they're so light

1100
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:09,000
Speaker 1: that then you might want to add like a little

1101
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:12,760
Speaker 1: bit of size, Greg Russo, von Miller, Matt Malano played

1102
00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:15,400
Speaker 1: almost every snap, so some good signs I think for

1103
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:21,240
Speaker 1: the Bills defense. Who uh oh boy, Like, let's get going, Shuky,

1104
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:22,880
Speaker 1: we got we got it. This is one of the

1105
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:26,359
Speaker 1: better divisional round games I can remember. I guess it's

1106
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:28,839
Speaker 1: too early. We shouldn't already be previewing next week. Actually,

1107
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:32,560
Speaker 1: let's hear from Sean McDermott before we hear from Nick

1108
00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:33,879
Speaker 1: Schuck talking about next week.

1109
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:37,960
Speaker 14: Yeah, I mean this is what this is what everyone's

1110
00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:42,120
Speaker 14: been waiting for, right, So it'll be it'll be a

1111
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:44,319
Speaker 14: nice week and everyone will be looking forward to it.

1112
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:47,279
Speaker 14: And you know they're a great football team, right, I

1113
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:50,040
Speaker 14: mean the they handled us pretty good the first go around,

1114
00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:53,800
Speaker 14: and you know they're they're certainly playing well, well coached.

1115
00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:57,560
Speaker 14: John's want to won a super Bowl and comes from

1116
00:51:57,560 --> 00:52:00,000
Speaker 14: great pedigree. So it'll be a big challenge for.

1117
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:03,359
Speaker 1: We don't need to preview the game next week. But

1118
00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:06,719
Speaker 1: I don't know, Shuk, Like, how do you see this?

1119
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:10,359
Speaker 1: Like the discourse is going to be annoying, but how

1120
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:15,400
Speaker 1: do you think it's gonna be very annoying? But how

1121
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:17,160
Speaker 1: do you think like they set themselves up kind of

1122
00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:20,000
Speaker 1: where they are now maybe versus where they were early

1123
00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:20,560
Speaker 1: in the season.

1124
00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:22,960
Speaker 9: The Bill's best chance of victory is to follow the

1125
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:25,120
Speaker 9: same approach that they had today. The question is can

1126
00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:27,200
Speaker 9: you run the ball as effectively against the defense that

1127
00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:30,360
Speaker 9: has more weight to it? That is probably coming You know,

1128
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:32,200
Speaker 9: they're coming together really well in Baltimore down the.

1129
00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:33,160
Speaker 10: Back half of the season.

1130
00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:34,880
Speaker 9: Zach Or has really figured out how to use this

1131
00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:37,160
Speaker 9: defense to his advantage. And at what point when you

1132
00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:40,000
Speaker 9: have to shift to ask Josh Allen to make plays?

1133
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:42,200
Speaker 9: You know, at what point in the game does that arrive?

1134
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:43,319
Speaker 10: Is it early? Is it often?

1135
00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:44,960
Speaker 9: Because if it's early and often, then you're gonna be

1136
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:46,600
Speaker 9: in a hell of a battle if you can't lean

1137
00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:47,359
Speaker 9: on the run game early.

1138
00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:48,720
Speaker 10: But it's gonna be quite a matchup.

1139
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:50,880
Speaker 9: And we already know what Baltimore's offense, which looks like

1140
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:52,200
Speaker 9: one of the best units in the league, can do.

1141
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:54,719
Speaker 9: Obviously we'll spend all week talking about it, but it's

1142
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:55,520
Speaker 9: gonna be a great game.

1143
00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:56,560
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1144
00:52:56,640 --> 00:52:59,320
Speaker 1: I like for them that Milano was able to play

1145
00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:01,800
Speaker 1: more snaps and on third down. I like that Vaughn

1146
00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:05,440
Speaker 1: had two of the team's three quick pressures, but there

1147
00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:08,040
Speaker 1: are five pressures overall, and yeah, I had a couple

1148
00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:11,040
Speaker 1: quick ones, so he's coming around at the long time.

1149
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:15,719
Speaker 1: I also think their short yardage package has now past

1150
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:18,600
Speaker 1: the Eagles as the best short yardage, don't you think,

1151
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:21,960
Speaker 1: because they do the Josh Allen push and that's never

1152
00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:26,440
Speaker 1: stopped ever. But they also mix in the like on

1153
00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:28,080
Speaker 1: the third and one where they knew they had the

1154
00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:30,279
Speaker 1: fourth and one to go to, where he kind of

1155
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:33,520
Speaker 1: boots out and it's defended perfectly and he makes you

1156
00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:34,560
Speaker 1: miss on the edge in a way.

1157
00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:37,200
Speaker 2: Maybe Jalen hurts. Probably they can do they can do

1158
00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:38,840
Speaker 2: anything in those short yardages.

1159
00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:42,320
Speaker 6: Well, yeah, snapping the ball to Josh, I think is

1160
00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:45,399
Speaker 6: always going to help. I do know a Rams team

1161
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:47,880
Speaker 6: over across the street that had success against the Josh

1162
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:52,640
Speaker 6: Allen quarterback sneak fair, especially late fair. I'm not going

1163
00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:55,040
Speaker 6: to put them on the level of the Eagles in

1164
00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:57,920
Speaker 6: that situation because I think it's fundamentally different the way

1165
00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:00,520
Speaker 6: they approach it. I mean, the Eagles were able to

1166
00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:02,880
Speaker 6: to run a trick playoff of it just because of

1167
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:05,600
Speaker 6: the certainty right today that that they were going to

1168
00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:08,480
Speaker 6: get it on fourth down. I don't know that the

1169
00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:13,080
Speaker 6: Bills necessarily have that luxury, and and and with the

1170
00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:15,640
Speaker 6: the game and the stakes and the abilities of the team,

1171
00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:18,279
Speaker 6: I don't how many fourth downs are we going to see?

1172
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:20,040
Speaker 2: Wow, that's fair. How are How are you feeling?

1173
00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:20,640
Speaker 3: Patrick?

1174
00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:25,680
Speaker 1: I was hoping because that's the Sunday afternoon game, it's

1175
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:29,360
Speaker 1: the last one. It's Tony Romo, it's Jim Nance, It's

1176
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:34,719
Speaker 1: it's the entree of this weekend. And so generally we

1177
00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:37,400
Speaker 1: would be here in the in the office, like are

1178
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:39,200
Speaker 1: you going to watch it in the theater with us,

1179
00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:40,560
Speaker 1: with all us common folks.

1180
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:43,760
Speaker 6: Primarily I will be watching the football game by myself. Okay,

1181
00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:45,520
Speaker 6: I will be I will be loud. There will be

1182
00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:47,520
Speaker 6: a lot of swear words one way or the other.

1183
00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:47,960
Speaker 9: M M.

1184
00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:50,960
Speaker 6: Probably won't be looking at Twitter. I'll be pacing back

1185
00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:53,680
Speaker 6: and forth and yelling obscenities at the screen. So I'll

1186
00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:54,880
Speaker 6: keep it, keep it.

1187
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:57,879
Speaker 1: I kind of feel for you because it having been

1188
00:54:57,920 --> 00:55:01,399
Speaker 1: there with the pay you don't want the game.

1189
00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:03,080
Speaker 2: You want the game to be on Saturday.

1190
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:05,919
Speaker 1: If you're doing like a Sunday night show, you want

1191
00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:08,239
Speaker 1: like the twenty four hours to kind of like calm

1192
00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:11,359
Speaker 1: down your emotions. Maybe good or bad from it, you know,

1193
00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:13,759
Speaker 1: just you don't want to be raw coming into the

1194
00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:15,080
Speaker 1: studio after a loss.

1195
00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:17,680
Speaker 2: But the listeners hopefully will like it if that happened.

1196
00:55:17,719 --> 00:55:20,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean everybody, anybody that puts up with me anyway,

1197
00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:24,840
Speaker 6: you know, I appreciate it regardless. But it's yeah, during

1198
00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:28,600
Speaker 6: is tough. It's tough to be around. I mean, having

1199
00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:31,000
Speaker 6: to listen to to Herbie is enough.

1200
00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:35,280
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, last night was was not great. Let's listen

1201
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:38,279
Speaker 1: to Let's listen to Sean McDermott again. I want to

1202
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:40,680
Speaker 1: hear him talk about that Ty Johnson touchdown, which really

1203
00:55:40,760 --> 00:55:42,320
Speaker 1: was the biggest play of the game in an incredible

1204
00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:43,120
Speaker 1: play by Johnson.

1205
00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:47,360
Speaker 14: What I saw, well, probably like you on the on

1206
00:55:47,480 --> 00:55:49,840
Speaker 14: Ties touchdown, I was going, oh, come on, come on,

1207
00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:51,720
Speaker 14: oh yeah, yeah, good.

1208
00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:56,960
Speaker 1: Good, Yeah, that was yes, his yeah, his version of

1209
00:55:57,000 --> 00:56:00,800
Speaker 1: that exactly. Great job by the Bills and a great

1210
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:05,799
Speaker 1: season for the Broncos considering what people thought about that

1211
00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:09,480
Speaker 1: team coming into the season. I know our friend Cynthia

1212
00:56:09,520 --> 00:56:11,959
Speaker 1: Frielan had that as her favorite over under the year

1213
00:56:12,040 --> 00:56:13,320
Speaker 1: as an over five and a half.

1214
00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:15,520
Speaker 2: But good for her, you know, but that was five

1215
00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:16,000
Speaker 2: and a half.

1216
00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:18,680
Speaker 5: Like, I mean, they shed some veteran dous on defense,

1217
00:56:18,719 --> 00:56:20,640
Speaker 5: and this defense was still good. That's a credit Defanse

1218
00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:21,520
Speaker 5: Joseph for sure.

1219
00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:24,320
Speaker 1: I think they have a really solid foundation to build

1220
00:56:24,320 --> 00:56:27,240
Speaker 1: from because they have a great play caller, an offensive

1221
00:56:27,239 --> 00:56:30,360
Speaker 1: line that is clearly coached well and they can tweak

1222
00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:33,120
Speaker 1: if they need to, and plenty of talent on defense,

1223
00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:36,160
Speaker 1: maybe the defensive player of the year. They're gonna need

1224
00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:38,320
Speaker 1: to get better because the schedule is going to get harder.

1225
00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:41,040
Speaker 1: You know, they really didn't beat any good teams this year.

1226
00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:43,240
Speaker 1: They've kind of made it through the whole season without

1227
00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:45,839
Speaker 1: basically beating a good team that was trying to win.

1228
00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:48,719
Speaker 1: So they need to get better, but they can't get better.

1229
00:56:48,719 --> 00:56:51,759
Speaker 1: That division suddenly looks very good. Okay, that's it for

1230
00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:55,000
Speaker 1: the games we have the schedule. I haven't gone through

1231
00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:58,959
Speaker 1: them all in a row yet, so we will be starting. Yes,

1232
00:56:59,239 --> 00:57:03,120
Speaker 1: Houston Tech's and love that Saturday afternoon window. Now they're

1233
00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:06,359
Speaker 1: almost undefeated, six and two and west ofvis but that's

1234
00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:07,480
Speaker 1: only wild Card weekend.

1235
00:57:07,520 --> 00:57:08,480
Speaker 2: It doesn't it doesn't.

1236
00:57:08,680 --> 00:57:12,759
Speaker 1: The magic doesn't work on Saturday afternoon, and that's when

1237
00:57:12,760 --> 00:57:14,120
Speaker 1: they'll be in Arrowhead.

1238
00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:16,840
Speaker 2: That is the ESPN Troy Aikman Game.

1239
00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:20,800
Speaker 1: That night is the Fox game Tom Brady back in

1240
00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:24,520
Speaker 1: our Lives, Lions and Commanders, expect a lot of points

1241
00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:28,320
Speaker 1: there Sunday morning, or rather after noon. Now they got

1242
00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:32,480
Speaker 1: the noon Pacific three pm start. You have the winner

1243
00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:36,200
Speaker 1: of Rams Vikings who will be heading to Philadelphia surely

1244
00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:40,600
Speaker 1: as an underdog, and then yes, Ravens and Bills as

1245
00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:43,680
Speaker 1: the capper starting at six point thirty eastern.

1246
00:57:45,080 --> 00:57:47,400
Speaker 2: Ooh, it's gotta be fun. My favorite week D of

1247
00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:47,640
Speaker 2: the year.

1248
00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:49,760
Speaker 1: And yet I can't feel like we can look forward

1249
00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:51,800
Speaker 1: that much, Nick, because we have a Monday night recap

1250
00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:54,880
Speaker 1: to do tomorrow night. I'm looking forward to that as well.

1251
00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:57,600
Speaker 1: Before we get out it feels a little off topic.

1252
00:57:58,360 --> 00:58:00,920
Speaker 1: But the New England Patriots hired ahead. Oh how about that?

1253
00:58:01,680 --> 00:58:07,240
Speaker 1: As the person Nick that resembles Mike Rabel most physically

1254
00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:11,040
Speaker 1: on the show, I'll let you go first. Talk me

1255
00:58:11,120 --> 00:58:15,480
Speaker 1: out of this being like a vaguely annoying higher because

1256
00:58:16,200 --> 00:58:19,200
Speaker 1: it just feels like more of the same, going back

1257
00:58:19,240 --> 00:58:22,280
Speaker 1: to the same, well, no fresh ideas, that sort of thing.

1258
00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:24,840
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm on an island here among Patriots

1259
00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:26,400
Speaker 1: fans who are generally loving this.

1260
00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:29,440
Speaker 9: I'm also the person who grew up like five minutes fromhere.

1261
00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:30,520
Speaker 9: Mike Rable went to high school.

1262
00:58:30,560 --> 00:58:32,520
Speaker 2: But that's there, you go. It is he.

1263
00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:36,760
Speaker 9: It's like what you were going for with Gerrod Mayo,

1264
00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:40,760
Speaker 9: except he has proven head coaching experience, has earned an

1265
00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:44,280
Speaker 9: AFC's top seed before with the Tennessee Titans, He's won

1266
00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:47,280
Speaker 9: the division. He's at least got a track record of

1267
00:58:47,320 --> 00:58:50,200
Speaker 9: doing it and being able to handle it, which, unfortunately,

1268
00:58:50,200 --> 00:58:52,120
Speaker 9: in Girod Mayo's first season, we kind of learned that

1269
00:58:52,160 --> 00:58:54,720
Speaker 9: he just was inexperienced at being a head coach and

1270
00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:57,280
Speaker 9: having to deal with the media or whatever else might

1271
00:58:57,320 --> 00:58:59,800
Speaker 9: be the ups and downs of coaching a bad team.

1272
00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:02,680
Speaker 9: And Rabel I don't think is going to come in

1273
00:59:02,680 --> 00:59:04,960
Speaker 9: and transform this team because this is a personnel thing,

1274
00:59:05,160 --> 00:59:07,640
Speaker 9: but I think it brings them the stability and familiarity

1275
00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:08,520
Speaker 9: that they're seeking.

1276
00:59:08,680 --> 00:59:08,880
Speaker 2: Now.

1277
00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:12,000
Speaker 9: Is the whole Patriot Way thing going to re emerge here? No,

1278
00:59:12,160 --> 00:59:14,120
Speaker 9: I don't think it's going to. But at least he

1279
00:59:14,240 --> 00:59:16,919
Speaker 9: understands the franchise and knows how to win.

1280
00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:19,120
Speaker 10: They just need to improve the roster to really see

1281
00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:19,600
Speaker 10: that through.

1282
00:59:19,680 --> 00:59:22,360
Speaker 9: I mean, his whole Tennessee tenure got blown up when

1283
00:59:22,360 --> 00:59:24,800
Speaker 9: Aj Brown got traded and his whole issue with John

1284
00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:27,200
Speaker 9: Robinson back then, So I don't hold that against him,

1285
00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:29,520
Speaker 9: but it felt like the most obvious higher we were

1286
00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:30,320
Speaker 9: going to see in this cycle.

1287
00:59:30,360 --> 00:59:31,439
Speaker 10: So at least it's out of the way.

1288
00:59:31,560 --> 00:59:34,240
Speaker 2: Your thoughts on the Patriot Way, Patrick Claiban, Oh.

1289
00:59:34,120 --> 00:59:36,880
Speaker 6: The Patriot Way is the reason that Mike Rabel is

1290
00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:39,800
Speaker 6: the head coach. The Patriot Way had nothing to do

1291
00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:43,800
Speaker 6: with anything. It's a myth. The Patriots had good players, and.

1292
00:59:44,160 --> 00:59:44,640
Speaker 3: It isn't it.

1293
00:59:44,680 --> 00:59:48,080
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick, to Patrick's credit, always says there is no such.

1294
00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:50,560
Speaker 6: Thing like Mike Rabel stepped up to the microphone, he answered,

1295
00:59:50,560 --> 00:59:53,760
Speaker 6: he didn't do a Belichick impersonation. He wasn't weird that

1296
00:59:53,840 --> 00:59:57,760
Speaker 6: there weren't like scoldings over what the media was wearing,

1297
00:59:58,640 --> 01:00:00,960
Speaker 6: like one former coach, that there wasn't any of the

1298
01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:04,960
Speaker 6: weird Josh McDaniel's tenure. Mike Rabel was Mike Rabel, And

1299
01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:08,120
Speaker 6: so I think this isn't a step backwards. It's actually

1300
01:00:08,120 --> 01:00:10,640
Speaker 6: a step forward to what the Patriots probably could have been,

1301
01:00:10,840 --> 01:00:12,200
Speaker 6: you know, for that's fair.

1302
01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:17,760
Speaker 1: And if dealing with the media was a weakness for Mayo,

1303
01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:21,040
Speaker 1: if anything, I feel like Rabel's too cozy with the media.

1304
01:00:21,040 --> 01:00:22,800
Speaker 1: Maybe that's part of the thing that annoys me.

1305
01:00:24,320 --> 01:00:24,880
Speaker 10: In Tennessee.

1306
01:00:25,080 --> 01:00:27,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, can you be too cozy with the

1307
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Speaker 3: media there.

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01:00:29,480 --> 01:00:33,080
Speaker 2: Maybe it's like it's that's fair, they'll support him if

1309
01:00:33,120 --> 01:00:33,600
Speaker 2: that's the case.

1310
01:00:33,680 --> 01:00:34,920
Speaker 3: Maybe it's we've seen how can go.

1311
01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:40,480
Speaker 1: It's more the media that that annoys me when they

1312
01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:44,000
Speaker 1: play favorites. Like there's just always those coaches that play

1313
01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:47,480
Speaker 1: the media game behind the scenes and it's just so transparent.

1314
01:00:47,600 --> 01:00:50,880
Speaker 1: Jeff Fisher was was the king at it. Cliff Kingsbury

1315
01:00:51,560 --> 01:00:55,080
Speaker 1: is a strong guy at it, certainly, and Rabel is

1316
01:00:55,080 --> 01:00:56,760
Speaker 1: that guy. But doesn't mean he's a bad guy. Certainly

1317
01:00:56,760 --> 01:00:58,440
Speaker 1: doesn't mean he's a bad coach. I think they were

1318
01:00:58,520 --> 01:01:00,520
Speaker 1: very good on the details. The thing that I worry

1319
01:01:00,520 --> 01:01:02,800
Speaker 1: about is you always want I would like to have

1320
01:01:02,840 --> 01:01:05,840
Speaker 1: a coach with a clear schematic advantage that he brings

1321
01:01:05,840 --> 01:01:09,120
Speaker 1: to the table something defining. Now we're seeing a lot

1322
01:01:09,160 --> 01:01:12,200
Speaker 1: of coaches that are really succeeding that aren't in the

1323
01:01:12,200 --> 01:01:16,080
Speaker 1: play caller model, like John Harbaugh and Dan Campbell, And

1324
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Speaker 1: so that's a fair point. Even Mike Tomlin, in a way,

1325
01:01:20,360 --> 01:01:24,040
Speaker 1: maybe his best juice is running the entire organization. Although

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Speaker 1: I think Mike Tomlin kind of combines both, which is

1327
01:01:26,120 --> 01:01:28,840
Speaker 1: what you want. Mike Rabel, I don't really know, Like

1328
01:01:28,920 --> 01:01:30,520
Speaker 1: his defenses were up and down.

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Speaker 2: It's stunk.

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Speaker 1: When I was a coordinator in Houston, some of his

1331
01:01:34,680 --> 01:01:38,360
Speaker 1: offenses were great and efficient with Tannehill, But he also

1332
01:01:38,440 --> 01:01:40,800
Speaker 1: hired Tim Kelly and Todd Downing as his last two

1333
01:01:40,800 --> 01:01:43,760
Speaker 1: offensive coordinators, so that I don't know what you're getting.

1334
01:01:43,800 --> 01:01:46,720
Speaker 1: But in terms of running an entire organization, kind of

1335
01:01:46,840 --> 01:01:50,080
Speaker 1: being a little more detail oriented in terms of game

1336
01:01:50,120 --> 01:01:53,600
Speaker 1: management and stuff like that, you're the players and the coaches.

1337
01:01:54,160 --> 01:01:56,400
Speaker 1: I feel like he'll raise the floor quite a bit

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01:01:56,440 --> 01:01:56,880
Speaker 1: for them.

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01:01:57,040 --> 01:01:58,840
Speaker 5: I don't think there's any question that he's going to

1340
01:01:58,840 --> 01:02:01,680
Speaker 5: bring a more just the mentality that he brought. I

1341
01:02:01,720 --> 01:02:03,920
Speaker 5: just thought the drowd mail from the start just dropped

1342
01:02:03,920 --> 01:02:05,920
Speaker 5: the ball with some of the comments he's making in

1343
01:02:05,960 --> 01:02:08,479
Speaker 5: the preseason, and then it just kept going downhill from there,

1344
01:02:09,000 --> 01:02:09,600
Speaker 5: and I think.

1345
01:02:09,480 --> 01:02:10,680
Speaker 4: That's where they're trying to look.

1346
01:02:10,880 --> 01:02:14,760
Speaker 5: I thought it was interesting that three days they fired Mayo,

1347
01:02:14,880 --> 01:02:17,640
Speaker 5: three days after Rabel interviewed with the Jets.

1348
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Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, this was just little Jeb there right, Oh yeah,

1349
01:02:23,120 --> 01:02:24,040
Speaker 2: this was to go there.

1350
01:02:24,120 --> 01:02:29,840
Speaker 1: This was all choreographed, which is frustrating. I think if

1351
01:02:29,880 --> 01:02:34,439
Speaker 1: you want the Rooney Roll to be respected, if even

1352
01:02:34,520 --> 01:02:38,560
Speaker 1: as a Patriots fan, like you want them to consider

1353
01:02:38,720 --> 01:02:42,920
Speaker 1: all possible options, like a Ben Johnson even like I

1354
01:02:42,920 --> 01:02:46,040
Speaker 1: think Ben Johnson was like a sham interview, Like it's

1355
01:02:46,120 --> 01:02:49,160
Speaker 1: just which is too, Like it was just from the

1356
01:02:49,200 --> 01:02:52,520
Speaker 1: reporting that was there, and it's from really strong people,

1357
01:02:52,600 --> 01:02:57,960
Speaker 1: Greg Badard, Tom Kurrn. They were saying things like ninety

1358
01:02:58,600 --> 01:03:01,600
Speaker 1: plus percent the whole time. They were saying that literally

1359
01:03:01,680 --> 01:03:05,360
Speaker 1: before any of this was happening, So it was always

1360
01:03:05,360 --> 01:03:08,440
Speaker 1: happening and maybe maybe it'll be good, it'll definitely it

1361
01:03:08,480 --> 01:03:11,640
Speaker 1: just should definitely help their twenty twenty five like win

1362
01:03:11,720 --> 01:03:13,880
Speaker 1: loss record, which is the idea. Maybe I shouldn't be

1363
01:03:14,360 --> 01:03:16,200
Speaker 1: whiny about it. I want to see what the offensive

1364
01:03:16,240 --> 01:03:18,640
Speaker 1: coordinator is. If it winds up being Josh McDaniels, I'm

1365
01:03:18,640 --> 01:03:19,320
Speaker 1: not gonna be happy.

1366
01:03:19,560 --> 01:03:21,720
Speaker 3: Let's get Josh McDaniels back in there, get the gang

1367
01:03:21,760 --> 01:03:23,680
Speaker 3: back together. Greg, what's Bill?

1368
01:03:23,800 --> 01:03:24,800
Speaker 4: What's Patricia doing?

1369
01:03:25,240 --> 01:03:28,880
Speaker 2: The only he's down with Bill? Right, That's what I think.

1370
01:03:28,920 --> 01:03:30,479
Speaker 3: So thank you, that's gonna go great.

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01:03:30,760 --> 01:03:33,880
Speaker 1: Yeah that is too and yeah, do you already hear

1372
01:03:33,920 --> 01:03:39,520
Speaker 1: that he's bringing in his GM candidate that isn't necessarily

1373
01:03:39,560 --> 01:03:42,720
Speaker 1: gonna be the GM because Elliott Wolf will still be there,

1374
01:03:42,760 --> 01:03:44,439
Speaker 1: but maybe he'll be over Elliott Wolf.

1375
01:03:44,440 --> 01:03:47,280
Speaker 2: And so this is that was a problem for Vrabel

1376
01:03:47,360 --> 01:03:47,760
Speaker 2: back there.

1377
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Speaker 1: And I don't want all this like palace intrigue and

1378
01:03:50,400 --> 01:03:51,680
Speaker 1: source offs and.

1379
01:03:51,560 --> 01:03:54,280
Speaker 3: All of that, but palace intrigue in New England.

1380
01:03:53,920 --> 01:03:59,720
Speaker 1: And exactly before we go and uh, yeah, we appreciate

1381
01:03:59,720 --> 01:04:04,120
Speaker 1: everyone and listened to two shows with us this weekend.

1382
01:04:04,560 --> 01:04:06,680
Speaker 1: I do want to let you know how you can

1383
01:04:06,880 --> 01:04:09,600
Speaker 1: contribute to the American Red.

1384
01:04:09,400 --> 01:04:11,000
Speaker 2: Cross relief effort.

1385
01:04:11,600 --> 01:04:14,959
Speaker 1: Obviously, it's been a really difficult week with the wildfires

1386
01:04:14,960 --> 01:04:19,480
Speaker 1: across the Greater LA region. Families affected by those fires

1387
01:04:20,000 --> 01:04:22,480
Speaker 1: do need support, and you can help the American Red

1388
01:04:22,480 --> 01:04:26,600
Speaker 1: Cross respond help people recover from the disasters. Donate today

1389
01:04:26,840 --> 01:04:30,440
Speaker 1: to support the relief efforts by going to Redcross dot

1390
01:04:30,560 --> 01:04:33,880
Speaker 1: org slash NFL. And yeah, I know people because I

1391
01:04:33,960 --> 01:04:36,160
Speaker 1: know they've reached out in my life wanting to know.

1392
01:04:36,200 --> 01:04:42,040
Speaker 1: And it's so crazy how quickly everything changes, you know,

1393
01:04:42,120 --> 01:04:46,560
Speaker 1: and how this fire is going Saturday, it was moving

1394
01:04:47,400 --> 01:04:50,480
Speaker 1: like down the four or five is moving east and

1395
01:04:50,720 --> 01:04:55,160
Speaker 1: is moving south. It was moving away basically from where

1396
01:04:55,200 --> 01:04:58,240
Speaker 1: I was, and the strength of this fire was it

1397
01:04:58,440 --> 01:05:03,200
Speaker 1: changed dramatically between Thursday and Friday night was getting to

1398
01:05:03,240 --> 01:05:06,240
Speaker 1: be really scary. And then Saturday, like is my son's

1399
01:05:06,240 --> 01:05:08,960
Speaker 1: birthday this weekend, and we wanted to go up to

1400
01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:11,440
Speaker 1: take him to his favorite card store and go buy

1401
01:05:11,520 --> 01:05:14,840
Speaker 1: some cards. And I'm driving back on the four or

1402
01:05:14,840 --> 01:05:17,520
Speaker 1: five past the end. It's a crazy world we're living in,

1403
01:05:17,560 --> 01:05:22,360
Speaker 1: and you can just see this incredibly huge fire right

1404
01:05:22,400 --> 01:05:24,560
Speaker 1: to your right, and everyone else is just like going

1405
01:05:24,800 --> 01:05:28,439
Speaker 1: about their day because they say it's safe to drive there.

1406
01:05:28,480 --> 01:05:30,840
Speaker 1: And then by Sunday it was I think the most

1407
01:05:30,920 --> 01:05:35,200
Speaker 1: positive day that we've had this whole time. The Palisades

1408
01:05:35,240 --> 01:05:39,479
Speaker 1: fire is under better control than it's been this whole time,

1409
01:05:39,520 --> 01:05:42,240
Speaker 1: and things are really looking up in the in the

1410
01:05:42,280 --> 01:05:45,240
Speaker 1: short term, so that is really good. But Tuesday is

1411
01:05:45,240 --> 01:05:48,800
Speaker 1: supposed to bring like more more wind, like a crazy

1412
01:05:48,840 --> 01:05:50,960
Speaker 1: wind event, and it could all start up in different

1413
01:05:50,960 --> 01:05:53,560
Speaker 1: places in the city, and it's been it's been a

1414
01:05:53,560 --> 01:05:56,800
Speaker 1: lot to deal with Patrick obviously stressful for so many

1415
01:05:56,800 --> 01:05:58,800
Speaker 1: people that are affected much more than we are.

1416
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Speaker 6: Yeah, and absolutely, and there's there's resources gonna put some

1417
01:06:03,960 --> 01:06:07,160
Speaker 6: out if you're listening. You'll scroll back on Blue Sky Twitter.

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01:06:07,920 --> 01:06:11,040
Speaker 6: Still some volunteers needed if you're looking in the LA area.

1419
01:06:11,160 --> 01:06:14,280
Speaker 6: Several different spots as a Google Google dot going around

1420
01:06:14,320 --> 01:06:16,920
Speaker 6: that will be able to share. But just the thanks

1421
01:06:17,000 --> 01:06:21,160
Speaker 6: going out to all the firefighters, including the thirty percent

1422
01:06:21,200 --> 01:06:25,480
Speaker 6: of them are incarcerated out there with shovels digging literally

1423
01:06:26,320 --> 01:06:32,680
Speaker 6: to prevent fire spread, and you know, rescue workers just

1424
01:06:32,760 --> 01:06:36,280
Speaker 6: by name, everybody out that's bringing clothes, food, finding places

1425
01:06:36,280 --> 01:06:37,680
Speaker 6: for cats and dogs.

1426
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Speaker 3: Really just our little adopted hometown here kind of.

1427
01:06:42,840 --> 01:06:45,040
Speaker 1: I know. I love I love La And it's such

1428
01:06:45,040 --> 01:06:48,280
Speaker 1: a big place it's hard to put your arms around it,

1429
01:06:48,320 --> 01:06:51,920
Speaker 1: and yet it can feel almost small in a situation

1430
01:06:52,080 --> 01:06:55,400
Speaker 1: like this. And everywhere I go here I see a

1431
01:06:55,440 --> 01:06:59,040
Speaker 1: lot of like lines to donate around me because I'm

1432
01:06:59,040 --> 01:07:00,880
Speaker 1: in Santa Monica, which is you know, right next to

1433
01:07:00,920 --> 01:07:04,880
Speaker 1: the Palisades there and a lot of people trying to

1434
01:07:04,920 --> 01:07:09,520
Speaker 1: help and coming together as a community. And yeah, I liked,

1435
01:07:09,560 --> 01:07:12,560
Speaker 1: you know how, shout out to Mexico for sending up

1436
01:07:12,880 --> 01:07:15,120
Speaker 1: a bunch of virus fighters. Like I saw him, I

1437
01:07:15,160 --> 01:07:17,080
Speaker 1: saw him go by. I was like, there we go

1438
01:07:17,160 --> 01:07:19,320
Speaker 1: like we're we're getting it. We're getting it done like

1439
01:07:21,160 --> 01:07:24,600
Speaker 1: and uh, as we move forward into this week, we

1440
01:07:24,640 --> 01:07:27,600
Speaker 1: can just only hope that that it continues to get

1441
01:07:27,640 --> 01:07:31,840
Speaker 1: better and everyone stay safe and uh yeah, we're.

1442
01:07:31,640 --> 01:07:33,320
Speaker 2: Just we're just hoping for the best. It's it's all

1443
01:07:33,360 --> 01:07:33,720
Speaker 2: we can do.

1444
01:07:33,760 --> 01:07:37,439
Speaker 1: And and Shook, I'll be back with you on Monday night.

1445
01:07:37,640 --> 01:07:38,560
Speaker 2: Thank you, Kevin.

1446
01:07:38,320 --> 01:07:42,440
Speaker 5: Patra, thanks for having me stop and by this, I'm

1447
01:07:42,520 --> 01:07:45,720
Speaker 5: natural ye just fly out just for this silver.

1448
01:07:47,160 --> 01:07:51,120
Speaker 2: Silver fox here. Look well we're.

1449
01:07:50,960 --> 01:07:53,560
Speaker 1: Down to only one game left and wild card weekend.

1450
01:07:53,680 --> 01:07:55,840
Speaker 2: You know, football is back. Give us a good one,

1451
01:07:55,880 --> 01:07:56,840
Speaker 2: Bikings and Rams.