1 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:10,479 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Game Day Live Preview podcast, and we 2 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:13,119 Speaker 1: got any given Sunday coming up. People are kind of 3 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:15,040 Speaker 1: sleeping on the falcons, but I'm gonna tell you why 4 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 1: we shouldn't. It's a perception versus reality thing. Is Michael 5 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 1: Pennant's actually bad. We're going to talk about that. 6 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:24,759 Speaker 2: V Jon Robinson is that dude? How do we stop that? 7 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:26,800 Speaker 2: And it's winning time. I'm gonna tell you we come 8 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 2: out of Atlanta with a dub. It all starts right now. 9 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 3: Welcome to the Game Day Live Preview Podcast. I'm Jason 10 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:39,840 Speaker 3: Johnson alsoon and a Jesic guy. Jason, I am here 11 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:43,600 Speaker 3: with one of the smartest minds I know. It's Logan Paulson. 12 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:46,839 Speaker 3: He's a good buddy of mine. And uh, Logan, I 13 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:49,879 Speaker 3: once pet your dog. That's how good of friends we 14 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:51,200 Speaker 3: are that I've met your dog? 15 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:51,479 Speaker 2: You did? 16 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 3: You did atle pad on the head? Said good boy? 17 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 3: Uh so, yeah, that's how good of friends we are. 18 00:00:56,960 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 3: But we're not here to talk about our friendship. We're 19 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 3: here to talk about football and Logan, we got to 20 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 3: start with the breaking news. I'm sure as we're recording 21 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:08,400 Speaker 3: this as a breaking news, but at this point people 22 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:11,039 Speaker 3: have heard we got some injuries piling up. There are 23 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 3: going to be a couple of people out for this game. 24 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 3: Jade and Daniels out, Terry McLaurin out, Noah Brown out, 25 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 3: John Bates out. There are several others that we know, 26 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 3: but for this game, that's the ones that are kind 27 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 3: of I want a key one with you. I want 28 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 3: you to look at this in three different ways. For me, 29 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 3: Logan and you look at this. If you're the GM, 30 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 3: how are you reacting to this news. If you're a 31 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 3: head coach, how are you reacting to this news? And 32 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 3: if you're a player put yourself on this team, how 33 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 3: would you react to this news. 34 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:43,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, so I'll start with the player first because that's 35 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 1: the easiest one for me to relate to as a player. 36 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 1: I think it's tough, right because I think you have 37 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 1: a lot of confidence in the guys that are injured. 38 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 2: Right. 39 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 1: You have a lot of confidence in Jade, and you 40 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 1: have a lot of confidence in Terry. You have a 41 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 1: lot of confidence and Noil, you have a lot of 42 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 1: confident in John. We've talked about on all of the 43 00:01:56,680 --> 00:02:00,040 Speaker 1: other commander's content how impactful those guys have been. And 44 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 1: you know, Noah is like a true two in my opinion, 45 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 1: and Terry obviously kind of seeing him get his stride 46 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:09,360 Speaker 1: last week with the explosive play, and then Jaden's last 47 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 1: year speaks for itself. And I think, you know, at 48 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 1: least in my opinion, he's the guy moving forward. And 49 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:16,520 Speaker 1: so it's always tough when that happens and you have 50 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:18,640 Speaker 1: to kind of look in a different direction. But I 51 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 1: will say, like in the case of Jayden, as a 52 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 1: former player, he say, man, I feel really good about Marcus, 53 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:25,399 Speaker 1: Like he's played well in every opportunity we've given him. 54 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 2: It feels like this is going to be a nice fit. 55 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 1: And then the other thing, this is kind of sneaky, 56 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 1: is like, so I'll take the John Bates one because 57 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 1: he's a tight end. Is I got my first opportunity 58 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:37,800 Speaker 1: to play for Washington after fred Davis Torre's achilles in 59 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 1: two thousand and twelve, and so I played the rest 60 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:42,519 Speaker 1: of that season, started the rest of that season. And 61 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 1: as much as those injuries are bad and they are 62 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 1: kind of like, man, these are the guys that these 63 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 1: are our stud players that are. 64 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 2: Going to be out. 65 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 1: It gives young players an opportunity to step up and 66 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 1: have larger roles, and I think that can be really impactful. 67 00:02:56,400 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 1: And I think, you know, getting John eight more reps 68 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 1: is not going to be a bad thing. Getting Luke 69 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 1: McCaffrey more reps is not going to be a bad thing. 70 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 1: Now let's move up to the head coaching spot. Like obviously, 71 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 1: you know, players not plays is the old adage, like 72 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 1: you need good players to win games, and these are 73 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:15,800 Speaker 1: some good players. So now it becomes a little bit 74 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 1: more challenging as a coach in terms of saying, like, 75 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 1: how do we win this ballgame? Like, you know, we 76 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 1: kind of have to I think approach it from more 77 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 1: of a complimentary football standpoint. The defense really needs to 78 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:27,640 Speaker 1: support the offense. We need to get more plays from 79 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 1: the special teams. I think that's probably good, like a 80 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 1: good way of looking at it, but it's going to 81 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 1: be more difficult because we don't have the stud horses 82 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 1: out there. And then if I'm a GM, I probably 83 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 1: look at it as again, I want to win this game. 84 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 2: I want to win every game. 85 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 1: But if I'm looking at it from a developmental roster 86 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 1: standpoint and like a season standpoint, I guess it's probably 87 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 1: better that it's happening now as opposed to later, and 88 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 1: I think it's going to be good opportuny to get 89 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 1: some young guys, some looks that I drafted, and I 90 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 1: want to see how they do. 91 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 2: In larger roles. 92 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 1: So I think players kind of feel a little overwhelming 93 00:03:57,040 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 1: because you know, the immediacy of it. Head coach is 94 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 1: a little bit more justtical element to it, because we 95 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 1: got it's a problem that needs to be solved in 96 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 1: as a GM, it's kind of a thousand foot view. 97 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 1: How does this out look for the rest of the season. 98 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 1: And you know, honestly, if I'm being toy honest, like, 99 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 1: I think it's better that it's happening now, Like you 100 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 1: got again, Atlanta's kind of struggling. 101 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:16,479 Speaker 2: We're going to talk about them a little bit more. 102 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 1: But at least to get gives guys another week to 103 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:21,040 Speaker 1: get healthy and get back and be in a good 104 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 1: spot to win some games down the road. 105 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:24,559 Speaker 4: Yeah. 106 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:27,839 Speaker 3: No one likes to see injuries, obviously, but let's not 107 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:29,599 Speaker 3: you know, let's put it in the past. 108 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 4: We got to move forward. There's a game coming up. 109 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 3: We can't control what we can't control, and we can 110 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:36,159 Speaker 3: control what we can control, and that's the Falcon. 111 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 4: So let me ask you some questions. 112 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:41,719 Speaker 3: There's a perception versus reality situation going on with the Falcons, 113 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:43,840 Speaker 3: at least it feels that way. So we're going to 114 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 3: play a little game perception or reality, okay, and the 115 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:50,839 Speaker 3: Falcon's coming off a pretty bad loss thirty three to nothing. 116 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 3: When you get shut out, that never feels good, and 117 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:55,600 Speaker 3: you feel like this Falcons team is going to come 118 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:59,040 Speaker 3: out pretty heated because of that. But the question I 119 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 3: have for you is, after looking at the film of 120 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 3: that game, what's your evaluation on Michael Pennix? Because word 121 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 3: on the street out there is and I'm not saying this, 122 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 3: I'm just saying the word out on the street is 123 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:11,039 Speaker 3: Michael Penix may not be that great? 124 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:13,360 Speaker 4: Is that true? What are you seeing? Is that perception 125 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:14,239 Speaker 4: that real? 126 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 1: I think if you were only watching the Carolina game, yeah, 127 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 1: you probably don't think he's playing very well because he 128 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:22,839 Speaker 1: threw two interceptions and looked totally disheveled, you know. On 129 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:25,279 Speaker 1: the film breakdown show that we do like that was 130 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 1: one of the things that stuck out to me was 131 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 1: just he just looked unsettled. 132 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 2: I think if you look at. 133 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:30,920 Speaker 1: The Tampa Bay game, I thought He played a little 134 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 1: bit better in that game, looked a little bit more 135 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:36,040 Speaker 1: confident most the other team they played. I'm blanking at 136 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 1: the moment. It's Tampa Bay Minnesota Minnesota. Obviously that game 137 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 1: was structured a little bit differently. They could be a 138 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 1: little bit more conservative, because again, Minnesota's offense enough to 139 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:45,599 Speaker 1: do anything. But I don't think he looked bad in 140 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 1: that game. I think he did look like he was 141 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 1: struggling in versus Carolina. I think if you take a 142 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:52,479 Speaker 1: step back and look at it, like there, he's a 143 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:55,280 Speaker 1: young player. This is essentially his rookie season. I think 144 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:57,360 Speaker 1: there are some limitations to his game. I think there 145 00:05:57,360 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 1: are some limitations to how Atlanta's calling the offense, are 146 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:04,479 Speaker 1: some limitations to why Atlanta is calling certain types of 147 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 1: plays and not calling others, which is a little bit 148 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:10,040 Speaker 1: confounding to me. So I think it's probably multi factorial. 149 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 1: So could Michael Pennix play better, Yeah, Could the offense 150 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 1: I think insulate him a little bit more? 151 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 2: I think yes. 152 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:18,839 Speaker 1: Also, could they try to speak to his skill set more? 153 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 1: I think yes to that too. So I think it's 154 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 1: kind of a confluence of things that lead to this 155 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 1: perception of him not being good, but there's no doubt 156 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 1: in my mind, Like when you watch him, he's extremely talented. 157 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:31,160 Speaker 1: So just as an example, like if they come out 158 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:33,600 Speaker 1: this week, they run a little bit more straight play 159 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 1: action deep down the field shots, let him go big 160 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:38,480 Speaker 1: game hunting with better protection looks, and kind of are 161 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 1: more selective about the style of offense and how they 162 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 1: get to their big plays. I think it could be 163 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 1: absolutely lethal in that offense, like with some of the 164 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 1: playmakers that have on the perimeter. So you know, while 165 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:51,719 Speaker 1: he's not playing well now, like the reason he was 166 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 1: drafted in the first round is because he's very physically talented. 167 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:57,839 Speaker 2: He's smart, he's competitive, and he's a tough guy. 168 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 1: And so like, you don't become a starting core back 169 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 1: in the NFL if you're not resilient. And I think 170 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:05,360 Speaker 1: Santana Moss on the Command Center podcast always does such 171 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 1: a good job of being like NFL professionals, when things 172 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 1: don't go well, find a way to flip it. 173 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 2: That goes for coaches and players. 174 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 1: And so while he had while he didn't play well 175 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 1: last week, that is not an indicator that he will 176 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 1: not play well this week. 177 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:18,239 Speaker 4: Yeah. 178 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 3: Absolutely, And you and I do a podcast in the 179 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 3: off season all about scouting the upcoming prospects for the draft. 180 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 4: We do Ticket to the Draft podcast that you can. 181 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 3: Find on this channel, and we looked at Michael Pennock 182 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 3: steering that draft. And this isn't an evaluation. I mean, 183 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 3: anybody with eyes can see that his arm. He just 184 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 3: throws absolute piss missiles. So he's got the arm talent 185 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:44,239 Speaker 3: and hopefully that doesn't show up, I guess against us. 186 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 3: So my next question for you is you were talking 187 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 3: about the utilization of him within this offense and the Falcons. 188 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 3: There's no doubt they have a lot of weapons. Drake London, 189 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 3: Kyle Pitts, b John Robinson are the big names. Mooney 190 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 3: did a number of did a number on us last 191 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 3: couple of times we played him. He's a good player. 192 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 3: So my question for you is what is going on 193 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 3: with that offense you're kind of hinting at. It's not 194 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 3: all Michael Pennix. What are you seeing with that offense 195 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 3: with those weapons there? 196 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it could some of it could be 197 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 1: Michael Penix, Like I think, you know, I was reading 198 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 1: something this morning about the Falcons and they were talking 199 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 1: about hit charts, you know, and when you and in 200 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 1: the article they had a map of the hit chart 201 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 1: of Michael Pennix and it's all kind of inside five 202 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 1: yards and it's all outside the numbers, so there's really 203 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:33,839 Speaker 1: no footballs over the middle of the field. And again, 204 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:37,840 Speaker 1: like people like people who cite these hit charts all 205 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 1: the time, they look at a couple of plays from 206 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 1: the Carolina game where Michael pick Michael, I know, not Michael, 207 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 1: Michael Penix, what's the Titan's name, Gosh, Kyle Kyle Pitts 208 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 1: Geez is running like wide open down the middle of 209 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 1: the field. 210 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:52,200 Speaker 2: He's got a seam. 211 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 1: He's beating the Tampa two player down the middle, and 212 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 1: it's like, why is the ball not going here? And 213 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 1: so I do think there's a little bit of Pennix 214 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:02,200 Speaker 1: in of issue with kind of seeing the middle of 215 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 1: the field and getting the ball down the middle. I 216 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 1: also think though, like in terms of how they're designing it, 217 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:11,119 Speaker 1: it's like you're in the gun, we're dropping back, we're 218 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 1: going through full field reads, we're using our pre snap 219 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 1: diagnosties to kind of determine where the ball is going 220 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:19,200 Speaker 1: to go diagnoses excuse me. And I think that can 221 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:21,320 Speaker 1: be really challenging for a young player. So to me, 222 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 1: there's I think fundamentally, I don't think he sees the 223 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:26,319 Speaker 1: middle of the field very well. I think, you know, 224 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 1: when we do our ticke to the Draft show, that's 225 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 1: something we talked about with young quarterbacks all the time. 226 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 1: It was something that people talked about with Jay and Daniels, 227 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:33,959 Speaker 1: There was something people talked about with JJ McCarthy, people, 228 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:35,439 Speaker 1: they talked about with Michael Pennix. 229 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 2: Right, it comes up. 230 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:38,679 Speaker 1: And because it's hard, right, it's hard to see that 231 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 1: middle of the field area given the types of zone 232 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 1: coverages and type of rush patterns that NFL teams bring. However, 233 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 1: I do think there are ways to make it a 234 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:48,560 Speaker 1: little bit easier to see the middle of the field 235 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 1: and take some of the responsibility off the quarterback. Like 236 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 1: I don't want the young player to have protection responsibilities, 237 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:56,679 Speaker 1: to have to read it out down and down out, 238 00:09:56,800 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 1: like with this drop back stuff. And so I would say, like, 239 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:04,080 Speaker 1: why can't we get to more kind of dynamic concepts, 240 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 1: so like even just like you know, like a concept 241 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 1: that I remember is like this poll concept where the 242 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 1: title to run a five yard sit, the receiver runs 243 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:15,680 Speaker 1: a dig just manipulating those interier hook players, manipulating those 244 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 1: linebackers who are less efficient coverage players. It seems like 245 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:20,079 Speaker 1: an easy way to get some of that stuff and 246 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:23,319 Speaker 1: then use that tool of play action pass to find 247 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 1: some of these easy opportunities. Anybody who's been a fan 248 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 1: of the Commanders for any length of time, he's got 249 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 1: to remember the twenty twelve you know, Washington Redskins with 250 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:32,960 Speaker 1: Robert Riffin at the Helm, where we ran all that 251 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 1: drift and everyone's like, oh, like drift drift, drift, drift drift. 252 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:39,960 Speaker 1: It's basically like it's a one person read, heavy play 253 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 1: action linebacker step up. It creates avoid in the middle 254 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:44,559 Speaker 1: of the field, and you rip the football. And I'm 255 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 1: not saying that needs to be the solution for Michael PENNOCKX. 256 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 1: I'm not saying that, but I'm saying, use the effectiveness 257 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 1: of play action, use the conflict that naturally creates to 258 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 1: create bigger throwing windows for Michael Pennix to some of 259 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 1: his receivers in his PLAYMA just listed a bunch of them, man, 260 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 1: Like they're dynamic, right, There's a dynamic bunch here that 261 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 1: can make a ton of place for them. So That's 262 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 1: the thing that gets me is like they don't attack 263 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 1: the middle of the field very well, and so that 264 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:10,960 Speaker 1: could be a Michael Pennix thing. 265 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:13,439 Speaker 2: But also I think they don't use tools. 266 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 1: They don't have concepts or play design that helps access that. 267 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:20,319 Speaker 1: So that's the thing that I find somewhat confounding. Yes, 268 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 1: it could be a pedics issue, it probably is on 269 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:23,839 Speaker 1: some level, but I also think the coaching stuff's not 270 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 1: helping him in terms of what they're calling. 271 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:29,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, I want to move on because we've been talking 272 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 3: about the Falcons a lot. I want to talk about 273 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 3: Washington a little bit here. And I get it like 274 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 3: our fans need to know a little bit this here, 275 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:37,960 Speaker 3: you know, just a quick aside. I was thinking about 276 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 3: this as you were talking. I have a niece who 277 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 3: is in middle school and she plays a violin. 278 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 4: It's pretty good at. 279 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:48,840 Speaker 3: It, but you know, she's middle school violin and my 280 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:52,840 Speaker 3: brother bought her a brand new professional violin try to 281 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 3: inspire to get a little better. And it's awesome. Like 282 00:11:56,200 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 3: this violin is really nice. It's so beautiful, right, or 283 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 3: play it and it still sounds like a middle schooler 284 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 3: playing it viola. 285 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:06,720 Speaker 4: It just doesn't sound great. 286 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 3: Right, So that's just what it's reminding me of here, 287 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 3: Like it seems like they have all the weapons, they 288 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 3: have the professional violin, and hopefully this week they don't 289 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:19,680 Speaker 3: turn into Hillary Han playing just some beautiful Synthonis on 290 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 3: a professional violin. The person we have to talk about, 291 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 3: because no matter what it seems like, this guy gets 292 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 3: his is Bjeon Robinson. He is that dude. There is 293 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:30,840 Speaker 3: no doubt. He has four hundred and three scrimmage yards 294 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 3: this year so far. That's second only behind Jonathan Taylor 295 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:38,840 Speaker 3: up in Indianapolis, who is just on fire currently. He 296 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:42,200 Speaker 3: finds a way to be effective. So my question for 297 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 3: you is, logan, can you stop this guy? So we're 298 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 3: now in our segment stop that. Can you stop Djon Robinson? 299 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 2: Oh? 300 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 1: Man, So do you want me to design something to 301 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:57,560 Speaker 1: stop him? Or do I think we can actually stop him? 302 00:12:57,559 --> 00:13:01,080 Speaker 3: As the question a little bit of a if you 303 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:04,440 Speaker 3: think we can stop him, yeah, tell me how. And 304 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 3: if you think we can only contain him, tell me how. 305 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 1: I think it probably turns into a little bit of 306 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:12,679 Speaker 1: a containment issue. And I will say this so as 307 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 1: a runner, he's very dynamic, very very dynamic, special balance, 308 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 1: special vision, his change direction is tremendous. It's really tremendous 309 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 1: to watch like it's it's like you sometimes you see players, 310 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:24,600 Speaker 1: You're like, man, that is. 311 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 2: A special quality, that is a special. 312 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 1: Trait, and that's the vibe I get when I watch him. However, 313 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 1: I do think it's somewhat I don't say easy, but 314 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 1: comparatively it's easier to stop him as a runner than 315 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:38,560 Speaker 1: it is to stop him as a pass catcher. And 316 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:41,319 Speaker 1: so like for me when you're stopping outside zone. You 317 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 1: just said good vertical edges. I think Dorn's arm trying 318 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 1: does a good job job of that. Jalen Holmes, Jean Baptiste, 319 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:49,719 Speaker 1: They do a good job setting vertical edges. Let's set 320 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 1: a nice vertical edge. Let's force it back to Deran 321 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 1: pain Kin Law, Bobby Wagner, Frankie Louvain the interior. Let's 322 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 1: let's constrict those horizontal lanes that are developed in the 323 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:02,080 Speaker 1: outside zone game. And let's play another man in the box. 324 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:02,320 Speaker 2: That we have to. 325 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 1: You know, let's play like an aggressive quarters where the 326 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:07,400 Speaker 1: safety's in the run fit. Let's play a true eight 327 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 1: man box and cover three, or let's play a little 328 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 1: bit more man coverage and make sure our eye discipline 329 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:13,959 Speaker 1: is locked in. So I think that's going to be 330 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:15,679 Speaker 1: the part where, yes, you can contain that you can 331 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:17,560 Speaker 1: even maybe stop him right, You could keep him to 332 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 1: eleven carries for forty four yards or something like that. However, 333 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 1: I think the thing that gives me the most consternation 334 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 1: is him as a pass catcher, because I don't know 335 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 1: how to do it. I mean, there's not a clear solution. 336 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 1: So let's say you want to play a man coverage. 337 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 1: How do you play man coverage on him? Let's say 338 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 1: he's in the dot. Let's say he's right behind the quarterback. 339 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 1: You know they run all this pistols back there? Do 340 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 1: you have so in that case, Bobby Wagner, if Frankie 341 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 1: Louver would have him in man coverage. So if you 342 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 1: were to motion out of the backfield, you're going to 343 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 1: have frank Louver or Bobby Wagoner on him. 344 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 2: Or do you say we want to put a dB 345 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 2: on him? 346 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 1: But if you're if it's twelve personalities in the dot, 347 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 1: then you got the dB who's got a run fit. Now, 348 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 1: So to me, it's going to take a community effort 349 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 1: to make sure we get where his location his position, 350 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 1: his motion communicated so that we can get the best 351 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 1: matchups we want. So like, for example, in that one matchup, 352 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 1: if he bumps out, like do we now have to 353 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 1: reallocate coverage responsibility so that we don't draw a bad matchup. 354 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 1: And again that can become complicated because let's say we've 355 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 1: got Drake London and Kyle Pits to one side and 356 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 1: Jon Robinson motions outside and then all of a sudden, 357 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 1: Bobby Wagner's on Kyle Pitts, Like, we don't want that either. 358 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 1: So it takes a really comprehensive plan to slow Bejon 359 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 1: Robinson down because his ability and his flexibility as a 360 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 1: pass catcher is something that is really really hard to 361 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 1: navigate and negotiating. 362 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 4: Yeah. 363 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 3: Absolutely, And when he gets in the open field, he 364 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 3: runs like he runs like water man. It's so smooth, 365 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 3: like have you ever seen a great falls down? 366 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 4: Here? 367 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 3: To me, it's like that's how he runs. It's violent 368 00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 3: at times, but it is so smooth. And yeah, if 369 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 3: he's in an open space, it's hard to stop. You 370 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 3: have a film breakdown show that I produce with you, 371 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 3: and you have a clip on there. I encourage everybody 372 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 3: listening to this to quickly go over to YouTube find 373 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 3: the film Breakdown Show with Logan on Atlanta, and you 374 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 3: have a clip on there of him getting a botched 375 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 3: snap and still making fifteen yards out of it. 376 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 4: I think it was. 377 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 3: And I actually saw a comment or say that was 378 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 3: a direct snap, and it's like Bro Pennix was reaching 379 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 3: for that ball. If he tips it, that's a fumble. 380 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 3: You don't want a quarterback doing that on a direct snap, 381 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 3: and that offensive line is shuffling back into a pass protection. 382 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 3: You don't want that on a direct snap to a 383 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 3: running back. He just but he makes bad plays look 384 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 3: so good. That's not analysis, that's just using my eyeballs. 385 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 3: Everybody can kind of see that. The Falcons their defense, 386 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 3: they've only allowed one hundred and thirty one passing yards 387 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 3: per game this year. That's US yards allowed in the 388 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 3: NFL in the air, and they've allowed two hundred and 389 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 3: twenty seven point three yards per game just total this year. 390 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:58,680 Speaker 3: That's second in the NFL, only behind Cleveland. They also 391 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 3: blitz on forty four point seven percent of dropbacks, that's 392 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 3: the highest in the NFL. Their defense statistically says they're 393 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:10,440 Speaker 3: pretty good. They're one of the top ones. A lot 394 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:13,920 Speaker 3: of that actually came from that Minnesota game. So what 395 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:15,960 Speaker 3: do we have to do to stop that and make 396 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:18,639 Speaker 3: sure we're not looking like that Minnesota game. 397 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 2: Yeah. I think there's a couple of things here. 398 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:25,440 Speaker 1: One is Tampa Bay, while very offensive, like the perception 399 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:27,920 Speaker 1: of them is being very offensive efficient Like they're banged 400 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 1: up on the offensive line. Tristan Wurss has been out 401 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 1: the right guard head season ending knee surgery. I think 402 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 1: after that game right, Minnesota was a total garbage fire 403 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:39,199 Speaker 1: in that Week two matchup, and then Carolina did not 404 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:41,359 Speaker 1: look very efficient offensively. They were able to hit a 405 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:43,920 Speaker 1: couple of explosive plays, but I think on the whole, 406 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:46,920 Speaker 1: their offensive efficiencies pretty low. So I think they've faced 407 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 1: three teams that are kind of middle to bottom of 408 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:54,239 Speaker 1: the pack in terms of offense and offensive efficiency, and 409 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 1: I think, again, that's going to inflate the numbers now 410 00:17:56,520 --> 00:17:57,920 Speaker 1: I say that, But I think this is a very 411 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:00,080 Speaker 1: talented group. It's a very young group. They've got some 412 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:03,360 Speaker 1: dynamic pass rushers. I think the interior players are kind 413 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:05,959 Speaker 1: of people that you're not going to be super familiar with, 414 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:10,720 Speaker 1: like David Ayumada, Zach Harrison, you know, Brandon Dorles are 415 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:15,119 Speaker 1: young players who are ascending and playing really good and 416 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 1: kind of for interior players are much more dynamic than 417 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 1: I think people would associate with that position traditionally. And 418 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:23,680 Speaker 1: again you've got the edge players. You got Leonard Floyd, 419 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:26,359 Speaker 1: who's a veteran, but you've got James Pearce Junior from Tennessee, 420 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 1: the rookie Jalen Walker, the rookie Arnold Lipicketty who's a 421 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:30,159 Speaker 1: young pass rusher, So. 422 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:32,359 Speaker 2: That front is kind of fun, you know. And then 423 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 2: you got. 424 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 1: Divine the Oablow playing linebacker, and you got Kayanellis who's 425 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 1: a converted defensive end, and they use them in a 426 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:39,880 Speaker 1: lot of different pressure packages, so on third down, third 427 00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 1: and long, third and seven plus, like we talked about 428 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:44,360 Speaker 1: a little bit of this in the film Breakdown Show 429 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:46,879 Speaker 1: also when we talked about like their pressure plan and 430 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 1: all this kind of thing. They have a lot of 431 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:51,159 Speaker 1: people that can win one on one as a pass rusher, 432 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 1: So I think this is a is a good front 433 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 1: for that. This is a good front for that pressure 434 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:57,640 Speaker 1: blitzing style they're going to be able to get home 435 00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:00,679 Speaker 1: with maybe not with four, but kind of with this 436 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 1: exotic patterning of the blitz that they're bringing in the 437 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 1: back end. I'm not so sure that as they're young. 438 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 1: They're a young group, they're talented, but again, young secondaries 439 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:13,840 Speaker 1: to me are easy to kind of pick apart, or 440 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 1: easier to pick apart, because again, they still haven't established 441 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:18,200 Speaker 1: all of kind of the nuance of what it means 442 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:21,680 Speaker 1: playing the NFL. So what I would say is, I'd say, 443 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:23,399 Speaker 1: let's lean on these guys a little bit. I just 444 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:26,240 Speaker 1: mentioned how athletic the front is. They're not super big, right, 445 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:27,960 Speaker 1: so let's see if we can lean on them a 446 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 1: little bit. Let's see if we can establish the run. 447 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:32,119 Speaker 1: I think the other important thing here here too is 448 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:35,199 Speaker 1: that their offense, Atlanta's offense has been struggling. So if 449 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:38,679 Speaker 1: I'm Cliff, I can call a more conservative game. I 450 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 1: can be patient with the game plan. I can run 451 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:42,919 Speaker 1: it a little bit more than I want. I can 452 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:46,159 Speaker 1: be a little bit again, more reserved in terms of 453 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:50,159 Speaker 1: style of play, call limiting Marcus Mariota's exposure, trusting that 454 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 1: our defense is going to keep us in it, and 455 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:54,359 Speaker 1: I think that over the course of the game. I 456 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:57,640 Speaker 1: trust that I think that our offense will break down 457 00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:00,359 Speaker 1: their defense first and we might win a game, you know, 458 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:03,360 Speaker 1: fourteen to ten or something like that. 459 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 2: But I do think that's kind. 460 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:06,720 Speaker 1: Of the game flow you're looking at there is if 461 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:09,040 Speaker 1: I'm Cliff, I'm trusting the defense. I'm trying to stay 462 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 1: out of negative explosive plays for the offense. So I'm 463 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 1: trying to stay out of sacks. I'm trying to stay 464 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 1: out of turnovers. And the best way that I can 465 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:18,840 Speaker 1: do that as the offensive coordinator, if I'm Cliff is 466 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:22,639 Speaker 1: to just be patient, you know, trust that if we 467 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:24,879 Speaker 1: punt this football, our defense is going to get a 468 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 1: three and out and we're going to get the ball right. 469 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:29,639 Speaker 3: Back Logan, It's time to move on to the last segment. 470 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 3: It's winning time for Washington, and basically what I want 471 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 3: to ask. 472 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:34,160 Speaker 4: You is, how do we win this game? 473 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:37,159 Speaker 3: We got the injuries as you talked about. Marcus Marioto 474 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:39,159 Speaker 3: is in there. Although he's done a great job. Just 475 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 3: real quickly. His completion percentage seventy one point four percent, 476 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:46,400 Speaker 3: pretty darn good, passing yards per attempt nine point nine, 477 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 3: almost right at the sticks, pass a rating one to 478 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:53,480 Speaker 3: eighteen point six, pretty high, and yard carrie six point seven. 479 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:56,359 Speaker 3: He's staying ahead of this change, like he's keeping this 480 00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:59,160 Speaker 3: offense moving, this little bit of a revenge game maybe 481 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:01,119 Speaker 3: for him second week in a row, going back to 482 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 3: the Falcons. So what are we doing? How are we 483 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 3: winning this game? Give it to me, nuts and bolts, 484 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:10,200 Speaker 3: no fluff. How do we win this game? 485 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 2: Yeah? 486 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 1: So I think what I would say is I'd go 487 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 1: back to what my analysis of how to kind of 488 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:16,399 Speaker 1: stop this defense is. 489 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:20,200 Speaker 2: I think offensively, you need to play a little bit. 490 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:22,399 Speaker 1: More conservatively, and what I mean with that is like run, 491 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:25,199 Speaker 1: don't be afraid to punt, But when you have those moments, 492 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 1: like when you're at the forty five yard line going 493 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 1: in a score, don't be afraid to call your explosive play, 494 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:32,960 Speaker 1: action shot or that trick play or whatever to kind 495 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:35,879 Speaker 1: of find some of that some of that wrinkle to 496 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 1: maximize again, a depleted skill position group for the Washington Commanders. 497 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 1: So that's the first thing I'd say, is like, when 498 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:46,440 Speaker 1: that moment comes for the explosive opportunity, hey, the call 499 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 1: has to be correct and the execution has to be great. 500 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 1: So that's what I'd say, And again, without the explosive playmakers, 501 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 1: you need to be a little bit more selective about that. Defensively, 502 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 1: I think it's like, do what you've been doing and 503 00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:00,240 Speaker 1: maybe throw a little bit more disguise on it. Little 504 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:03,160 Speaker 1: curious to see how they handle the absence of Will Harris, honestly, 505 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 1: because he was so good in terms of covering tight ends, 506 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:09,119 Speaker 1: fitting runs, especially over the first three weeks of the season. 507 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 1: So how they replace him, Who they replace him with, 508 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 1: is it by committee? Is Percy Butler healthy? All those 509 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 1: things I think you're going to be really important because 510 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:20,720 Speaker 1: if they can find a suitable replacement, I think they 511 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 1: can just do what they've done, you know again against 512 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 1: New York and against Las Vegas. In terms of slowing 513 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:29,439 Speaker 1: down this offense. I think the other thing too is 514 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:32,119 Speaker 1: just you got to be aware where Bejon Robinson is defensively, 515 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 1: like all at all times. I think if he gets 516 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:37,359 Speaker 1: going and he has some success, it makes it it 517 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:40,800 Speaker 1: deleverages Michael Pennox and again then those explosive downfield opportunities 518 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:44,920 Speaker 1: become more potent for that offense. So stop the run defensively, 519 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:47,920 Speaker 1: find a way to replace Will Harris, and then offensively, 520 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:51,119 Speaker 1: be patient and be selective about when it's time to 521 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:53,440 Speaker 1: step on their throat and make that big play. And 522 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 1: the third element here is if you can continue to 523 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:59,400 Speaker 1: find some special teams edges here, that would be fantastic 524 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:02,760 Speaker 1: because then it leverages your offense. Think about last week 525 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:04,960 Speaker 1: against Las Vegas, like, for example, we get that big 526 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 1: kickoff return, it's five runs in a score like EASi, 527 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:11,440 Speaker 1: easiest set of downs for the quarterback, and maybe NFL 528 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:14,159 Speaker 1: history like, great job letting Marcus get settled in. 529 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:16,120 Speaker 2: That's because of special teams. 530 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:18,680 Speaker 1: You get another seven point because another seven points because 531 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 1: of special teams. So playing complimentary football, don't rely on 532 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 1: your offense to win it, trust the defense and play 533 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 1: good special teams. And I wouldn't say that normally, but 534 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:31,919 Speaker 1: again with the injuries on offense, I think that's kind 535 00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:33,200 Speaker 1: of the way you need to be looking at this thing. 536 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:37,160 Speaker 3: Logan just zooming out, it feels like you're saying, correct 537 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 3: me if I'm longing on and put words in your mouth. 538 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:41,639 Speaker 3: It feels like you're saying, game flow is really going 539 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:42,240 Speaker 3: to matter here. 540 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:44,479 Speaker 2: I think that's exactly right. 541 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:46,199 Speaker 1: You're up in anything in my mouth with that, like 542 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:49,280 Speaker 1: I think it's it's it's that's exactly what this is, right, 543 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:54,120 Speaker 1: It's trust the game flow, manage game flow. Manage field position. Again, 544 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:57,360 Speaker 1: when you're in a situation where you lack teeth offensively, 545 00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 1: you need to be really smart, really discerning about how 546 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:04,639 Speaker 1: you're playing and limiting the exposure and the risk of 547 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:07,160 Speaker 1: the quarterback because again, he doesn't have that stud out 548 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 1: there that he can just rip the ball to. Hey, 549 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 1: it's one on one coverage. I got Terry, let's rip it. 550 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 1: Cliff has to be more creative. Remember we talked about 551 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:15,360 Speaker 1: in the film Breakdown Show about like understanding when they're 552 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:18,440 Speaker 1: getting man coverage. Let's run a concept that helps create 553 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:21,440 Speaker 1: some separation for some of these younger, inexperienced players. So 554 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:22,960 Speaker 1: I think all that stuff's going to come to the 555 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 1: forefront and just be really really important. Manage game flow, 556 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:31,640 Speaker 1: trust the game flow, and when that moment comes, be ready. 557 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:32,800 Speaker 2: To kind of throw that knockout punch. 558 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 3: Last question for you, It just popped in my head, 559 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 3: but I'm curious about it. With Terry McLaurin out and 560 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:43,760 Speaker 3: Noah Brown out, do you expect to see deebo on 561 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 3: special teams the same amount that we had before or 562 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 3: are you taking him and protecting them a little bit 563 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:52,639 Speaker 3: for the offense and losing debo there in special teams, 564 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:55,960 Speaker 3: You think that that would mean that potentially you're giving 565 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,879 Speaker 3: up the chance of an explosive although McCaffrey and Lane 566 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:00,879 Speaker 3: both were excellent last week. 567 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:03,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, I probably wouldn't. I probably wouldn't take him off 568 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 1: special teams. I mean these are you know we talked about, 569 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 1: you know, if I'm the GM, if I'm the head coach, 570 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:11,159 Speaker 1: if I'm the player, how I feel about this, And 571 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:14,399 Speaker 1: if I'm the head coach, I understand the importance of 572 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:16,359 Speaker 1: explosive plays, and I want to make. 573 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:17,879 Speaker 2: Sure Debo has explosive touches. 574 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:20,480 Speaker 1: And we have, for whatever reason, been able to find 575 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:25,159 Speaker 1: explosive touches through Debo since week one. And so let's 576 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 1: not limit one of the best features of our offense. 577 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:30,960 Speaker 1: And having Depot as a return man. Maybe he's not 578 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:34,119 Speaker 1: out there every return whatever that looks like, but again, 579 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:36,280 Speaker 1: like to me, that's an extension of the offense when 580 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:37,760 Speaker 1: he's out there. So, like people say, oh, we don't 581 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:40,119 Speaker 1: get hurt on special teams, we want to limit his exposure, 582 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:43,280 Speaker 1: like that's our first offensive play. Let's let that guy 583 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:45,560 Speaker 1: out there and let him go hunt. And so he's 584 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:49,520 Speaker 1: just shown a great ability to change the game from 585 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:51,720 Speaker 1: that position. So I don't want to limit his ability 586 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:53,880 Speaker 1: to do that, even though we're a little bit banged 587 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:54,719 Speaker 1: up offensively. 588 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:57,840 Speaker 3: You can catch Logan on Big one hundred down on 589 00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:01,440 Speaker 3: the field, he'll be with Brahm Weinson and London Fletcher 590 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:04,919 Speaker 3: calling the game right, and you're going to be on 591 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 3: the sideline of a Falcons game with d Q. Yeah, 592 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 3: it feels like familiar territory to you when we get 593 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 3: that win down there, when Washington beats the Atlanta Falcons. 594 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:18,480 Speaker 4: How's that going to make you feel? 595 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 2: To make if you're really good for DQ? 596 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:23,000 Speaker 1: You know, I know DQ has a lot of respect 597 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:25,240 Speaker 1: for Arthur blank and that organization. 598 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 4: Or whatever, but it's just Logan Pauls and feel. 599 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 2: It's going to be exciting. You know. 600 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 1: I have had a great relationship with Atlanta, like it 601 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:35,080 Speaker 1: was awesome, but it's always good to kind of beat Like, 602 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:37,240 Speaker 1: you know, it's not good when your ex girlfriend's doing 603 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:39,440 Speaker 1: better without you, right, So this is a good opportunity 604 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:42,240 Speaker 1: to kind of like make sure that that you're winning 605 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:44,480 Speaker 1: games you should be winning and then kind of show, uh, 606 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:46,400 Speaker 1: show that she left something good behind. 607 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:48,800 Speaker 3: I guess yeah, Fred Smoot knows all about that. Okay, 608 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:51,240 Speaker 3: So This is the end of the show. Thank you 609 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 3: so much, Logan. 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