WEBVTT - Nightcap WrestleMania Takeover ft. The Undertaker LIVE from WWE World 0:00:00.760 --> 0:00:01.800 W w E. 0:00:01.880 --> 0:00:08.799 World, Please welcome to the stage. The hosts of Nightcap. 0:00:08.760 --> 0:00:10.520 Three times Super Bowl. 0:00:10.320 --> 0:00:16.520 Champ and NFL Hall of Famer Shennan Shark and Bengals 0:00:16.560 --> 0:00:22.280 rend the Fame hontery, Chad O Cho Singo Johnson. 0:00:46.360 --> 0:00:50.400 What's up w w E? He gonna sit there? No, 0:00:50.440 --> 0:00:51.800 you see here, you sit that he gonna sit in 0:00:51.800 --> 0:00:52.080 the middle. 0:00:52.320 --> 0:00:53.360 How y'all doing, y'all good? 0:00:55.320 --> 0:00:56.080 That's what's up? 0:00:56.120 --> 0:00:56.360 Man? 0:00:56.440 --> 0:00:57.480 This is unbelievable. 0:00:57.520 --> 0:01:00.240 This is my first time being here, O, Joe and 0:01:00.360 --> 0:01:04.280 Uh as a wrestling fan my entire life. If somebody 0:01:04.319 --> 0:01:06.479 would have told me this is what wrestling was coming, 0:01:06.880 --> 0:01:08.680 was going to become, I wouldn't have believed it. 0:01:08.840 --> 0:01:11.160 No, this is dope. Atmosphere has been awesome. The fans 0:01:11.160 --> 0:01:13.800 have been awesome. Being able to meet some of the rasters. 0:01:14.000 --> 0:01:15.360 That's what's the best part about this. 0:01:15.480 --> 0:01:17.880 And here hearing their journey and how they got here 0:01:17.959 --> 0:01:20.520 to what most cans were considered the finished product on 0:01:20.640 --> 0:01:23.080 why we're all fans of them has been really dope 0:01:23.080 --> 0:01:23.640 to experience. 0:01:23.760 --> 0:01:26.480 It's unbelievable. It's an unbelievable experience. I mean, they do 0:01:26.520 --> 0:01:27.800 an unbelievable. 0:01:27.319 --> 0:01:27.720 Job of the. 0:01:39.280 --> 0:02:14.640 Seven time World Champion, the WWE twenty seven Mania appearances, 0:02:14.680 --> 0:02:17.519 He's twenty five and two, he has twenty one straight 0:02:17.560 --> 0:02:19.000 WrestleMania victories. 0:02:19.240 --> 0:02:21.960 Harry is Undertaker, but we know him as Taker. 0:02:22.160 --> 0:02:23.520 What's upup? 0:02:23.600 --> 0:02:26.880 Man? Taker? 0:02:27.880 --> 0:02:30.880 You were in your your hold on twenty five and two, 0:02:30.919 --> 0:02:33.320 So you've been to twenty seven of these things, twenty 0:02:33.360 --> 0:02:37.120 one straight victories from the very first one till now. 0:02:37.240 --> 0:02:39.480 What is the biggest difference that you think in WrestleMania 0:02:39.520 --> 0:02:41.440 when you started as opposed to what it bills now? 0:02:42.240 --> 0:02:45.160 Man? Just the uh, just the spectacle. I mean, look 0:02:45.160 --> 0:02:47.080 out here. You look at all of these people. 0:02:48.080 --> 0:02:49.919 It's unbelievable. Man, it's electric. 0:02:50.520 --> 0:02:54.080 This this when I when I started at WrestleMania's seven, 0:02:55.440 --> 0:03:00.440 this did not this did not happen. This access, the 0:03:00.080 --> 0:03:04.480 the ability to come and and and meet superstars, take pictures. 0:03:05.400 --> 0:03:08.600 It was at a much more limited scale. Right, Just 0:03:08.880 --> 0:03:12.200 this part alone is just it blows me away. Every 0:03:12.280 --> 0:03:14.880 year when I come and do an autograph signing or 0:03:14.960 --> 0:03:16.639 pictures signing, it's incredible. 0:03:16.680 --> 0:03:18.200 It seems like it's getting bigger and bigger. 0:03:18.240 --> 0:03:19.600 And I think the thing is that I love most 0:03:19.639 --> 0:03:22.720 about what WWE has done is that it allowed the 0:03:22.720 --> 0:03:25.120 fans to have access. It gives you an opportunity to 0:03:25.120 --> 0:03:27.560 show your personality just outside of the ring, and it 0:03:27.600 --> 0:03:29.760 get an opportunity to meet you guys, because I don't 0:03:29.800 --> 0:03:32.000 know how much meet and greet you guys had when 0:03:32.040 --> 0:03:32.960 you first started this. 0:03:33.560 --> 0:03:37.800 Not very many. You know. We we got here and 0:03:38.000 --> 0:03:41.480 just kind of focused on well, most guys focused on 0:03:41.480 --> 0:03:47.200 on their magic match early on. You know, I focused 0:03:47.200 --> 0:03:51.040 on a lot of things. They didn't necessarily have the 0:03:51.080 --> 0:03:55.360 fans involved. But as we again, as we grew, man 0:03:55.440 --> 0:04:00.320 this became this is almost as important as Rustleania. Yes, 0:04:01.040 --> 0:04:03.560 you know, I mean this is this is an incredible 0:04:04.080 --> 0:04:07.160 opportunity for people to get really close to, you know, 0:04:07.200 --> 0:04:09.839 the people that they support. 0:04:10.760 --> 0:04:11.760 Help me understand this. 0:04:12.240 --> 0:04:14.480 You come, you create a character, you in the WWE 0:04:14.680 --> 0:04:17.840 creator character, How did they help you develop that character? 0:04:17.880 --> 0:04:20.680 How did you embrace that characters that Okay, I'm the Undertaker. 0:04:21.000 --> 0:04:23.360 This is what I need because when you think of Undertaker, 0:04:23.400 --> 0:04:26.040 you think all black, you think of a mortician, and you. 0:04:26.000 --> 0:04:28.040 Think of something cold and sinister. 0:04:28.600 --> 0:04:30.560 How did they help you to develop that character and 0:04:30.600 --> 0:04:33.159 how did you embrace it so well? 0:04:33.240 --> 0:04:38.119 I think it varies between talent and talent okay. For 0:04:38.120 --> 0:04:41.799 for me, I was presented, I was presented a look 0:04:42.080 --> 0:04:45.080 in the name. Okay, see this, this is what we 0:04:45.120 --> 0:04:50.799 think is. You know, they needed somebody big with zero personality, 0:04:52.240 --> 0:04:53.840 and there I walked through the door. 0:04:54.279 --> 0:04:57.680 But for me, once once I was. 0:04:57.839 --> 0:05:03.440 Given the the initial image and then told me, you know, okay, 0:05:03.480 --> 0:05:05.440 this is going to be based off of an old 0:05:05.520 --> 0:05:09.480 Western undertaker, and then the license kind of kind of 0:05:09.480 --> 0:05:12.920 started going off for me, So there isn't a real 0:05:13.160 --> 0:05:16.160 set pattern like some like. For me, I took the 0:05:16.200 --> 0:05:18.919 ball and started ran with it and started running with 0:05:18.960 --> 0:05:21.240 it and figuring this thing out. Uh there. You know, 0:05:21.320 --> 0:05:23.880 some guys come in and they're like, I don't know, 0:05:24.080 --> 0:05:26.279 so they need a little bit more help and direction, 0:05:26.520 --> 0:05:29.680 and you know you have other guys that have already 0:05:29.720 --> 0:05:33.000 been here that kind of there's a it's amazing the 0:05:33.080 --> 0:05:36.400 amount of input that you get from from other wrestlers 0:05:36.480 --> 0:05:39.520 right that you know they're they're driving up and down 0:05:39.560 --> 0:05:43.080 the roads back then and say, I'll give you I'll 0:05:43.080 --> 0:05:46.200 give you an example. You know, I heard there was 0:05:46.240 --> 0:05:49.240 a time there where I carried people after I beat them, 0:05:49.240 --> 0:05:52.039 I put them in body bags right right, And everybody 0:05:52.040 --> 0:05:55.680 think that's just some sinister shit right, and of all 0:05:55.760 --> 0:05:59.160 people to give me that idea was the nicest guy 0:05:59.160 --> 0:06:02.080 in the world, which was really key Steamboat the Dragon. Yeah, 0:06:02.120 --> 0:06:04.240 he came up and he says, he goes, hey, you 0:06:04.240 --> 0:06:08.440 ever thought about this? And I was like, that's that's genius. 0:06:09.360 --> 0:06:13.680 So you know, uh, some guys they need help and 0:06:13.680 --> 0:06:16.080 and and that development. And then other guys just take 0:06:16.120 --> 0:06:18.240 that ball and you know, they just kind of go 0:06:18.279 --> 0:06:20.960 down that rabbit hole and figure out, Okay, how am 0:06:21.000 --> 0:06:22.840 I going to make this my own? And that's the 0:06:22.920 --> 0:06:26.360 key to being success successful. You can you can have 0:06:26.480 --> 0:06:29.839 the greatest idea, the greatest look, but if you don't 0:06:29.880 --> 0:06:33.279 make it your own, these people are here, they're not 0:06:33.320 --> 0:06:35.200 going to buy it, right, and they're not going to 0:06:35.279 --> 0:06:35.880 invest in it. 0:06:36.160 --> 0:06:37.719 So you know, that's the key. 0:06:38.080 --> 0:06:39.720 When you when you look at when you look at 0:06:39.720 --> 0:06:42.240 the state of Wrastlings as great as it is now 0:06:42.320 --> 0:06:46.320 as as a product in general internationally globally, has your 0:06:46.400 --> 0:06:49.640 perspective change from a business aspect now that you're on 0:06:49.680 --> 0:06:50.479 the creative side. 0:06:52.839 --> 0:06:55.480 Yeah, but you you you always want to have your 0:06:55.880 --> 0:06:59.320 your your thumb on on what it is that's that's 0:06:59.360 --> 0:07:05.200 reaching your you know, and that becomes it becomes difficult. 0:07:05.200 --> 0:07:07.320 Like when you do get behind the scenes, you have 0:07:07.400 --> 0:07:13.280 to remember that you're not necessarily you know, you're not 0:07:13.360 --> 0:07:17.640 necessarily creating for yourself anymore, correct, So you're you're creating 0:07:17.680 --> 0:07:19.760 for the masses. So you have to not only be 0:07:19.800 --> 0:07:23.280 able to take Okay, well this is what I like. Okay, 0:07:23.320 --> 0:07:25.080 well that might be great, but that's only going to 0:07:25.160 --> 0:07:26.600 affect like twenty percent of. 0:07:26.560 --> 0:07:27.480 These people, right. 0:07:27.680 --> 0:07:31.000 You have to be able to get your fingers out 0:07:31.000 --> 0:07:33.880 there and make it a net and get that get 0:07:33.920 --> 0:07:37.320 everybody what everybody wants to enjoy. So it's a pretty 0:07:37.320 --> 0:07:38.760 difficult process to do. 0:07:39.240 --> 0:07:43.400 Three or six foot under podcast that platform. How has 0:07:43.480 --> 0:07:46.560 that allowed you to engage with your fan base on 0:07:46.640 --> 0:07:48.960 a different level than say, you know, you go and 0:07:49.200 --> 0:07:51.120 you know doing something like this, because they get an 0:07:51.160 --> 0:07:53.520 opportunity to see you in a totally different light than 0:07:53.520 --> 0:07:55.000 what they've ever seen you before. 0:07:55.320 --> 0:07:58.480 Yeah, it's it's taken me a while to embrace that 0:07:58.840 --> 0:08:02.640 because I was for so long, uh you know, I 0:08:02.760 --> 0:08:05.800 protected my character, right, there was nothing there was Undertaker, 0:08:05.840 --> 0:08:06.880 and there was nothing else. 0:08:07.400 --> 0:08:09.000 That's all that anybody ever. 0:08:08.840 --> 0:08:11.440 Got to see. And I think that that contributed to 0:08:11.520 --> 0:08:16.360 the success of it. But I think with the with 0:08:16.360 --> 0:08:18.840 with with the with the podcast and getting out there 0:08:18.880 --> 0:08:22.000 and hearing some of the stories that I've you know 0:08:22.040 --> 0:08:23.920 that I've that I've had with some of the guys, 0:08:24.000 --> 0:08:27.400 and if truth be told, I don't I don't like 0:08:27.520 --> 0:08:28.600 talking about wrestling. 0:08:29.560 --> 0:08:31.920 You like talking for what are you fishing? Hunting? 0:08:31.960 --> 0:08:32.920 What do you want to know? 0:08:32.960 --> 0:08:33.080 All? 0:08:33.120 --> 0:08:36.240 That's good, okay, But as far as like with the podcast, 0:08:36.280 --> 0:08:39.560 Like the best podcast episodes are when I got with 0:08:39.600 --> 0:08:43.600 my boys and we're talking about what we did after wrestling, right, Like, 0:08:43.640 --> 0:08:46.240 that's that's what everybody wants to You can go on 0:08:46.280 --> 0:08:49.800 YouTube and watch all the wrestling matches you want, But 0:08:49.840 --> 0:08:52.559 what happened with me and the Godfather in a bar 0:08:52.760 --> 0:08:55.600 down the street? You know, That's that's kind of what 0:08:55.679 --> 0:08:58.520 I think kind of peaks this. These people's you know, 0:08:58.559 --> 0:09:01.840 they're their interests. Now they can they get plenty of wrestling. 0:09:01.920 --> 0:09:04.080 They want to, they want the juice. 0:09:05.000 --> 0:09:08.480 As a older wrestler that doesn't do it anymore. You 0:09:08.800 --> 0:09:12.440 adopted that you're helping and bringing along this generation of wrestlers. 0:09:12.800 --> 0:09:13.320 Uh oho. 0:09:13.400 --> 0:09:15.080 And now we played football and a lot of times 0:09:15.120 --> 0:09:17.120 we try to give back, We try to mentor the 0:09:17.240 --> 0:09:19.280 younger guys and try to tell them what to expect, 0:09:19.360 --> 0:09:22.319 how to go about their business. Be professional, be yourself, 0:09:22.360 --> 0:09:25.880 but be professional. Just remember one thing. The football team 0:09:25.960 --> 0:09:28.160 is a team. It's not always gonna be about you. 0:09:28.559 --> 0:09:31.000 What is for the best interest of the football team 0:09:31.200 --> 0:09:33.560 and how can we all win, not just you? 0:09:33.760 --> 0:09:35.640 Is that something some things that you try to share 0:09:35.640 --> 0:09:36.720 with these generations. 0:09:36.880 --> 0:09:41.480 Yeah, absolutely, because as a talent, if you're fortunate enough 0:09:42.000 --> 0:09:44.840 to get on that wheel and then have that run right, Yes, 0:09:44.960 --> 0:09:47.880 And when I say run, something that's going on with 0:09:47.880 --> 0:09:52.000 with like Roman Reigns right now, he's on an incredible run. Yes, 0:09:52.200 --> 0:09:54.800 Cody Rose, all these guys are on a run. But 0:09:54.800 --> 0:09:57.120 it's not it's not necessarily always gonna be like that. 0:09:58.000 --> 0:10:01.480 If you're always always use it as now the wheel right, 0:10:01.559 --> 0:10:05.400 so you're here, that wheel's moving right. So there's a 0:10:05.400 --> 0:10:07.560 good chance, not necessarily all the time, but there's a 0:10:07.559 --> 0:10:09.680 good chance that it's gonna end up down here, right, 0:10:10.120 --> 0:10:13.520 And you have to be able to One you have 0:10:13.559 --> 0:10:16.120 to figure out, Okay, what do I need to do 0:10:16.200 --> 0:10:19.040 to get back up there? And two, while I'm on 0:10:19.120 --> 0:10:22.520 my way, how can I help the product? How can 0:10:22.559 --> 0:10:25.319 I help the product? Because if the product gets better, 0:10:25.640 --> 0:10:27.720 that's gonna give everybody more opportunities. 0:10:27.960 --> 0:10:30.640 So you just you gotta, you gotta roll with it. 0:10:30.679 --> 0:10:31.480 You can. 0:10:31.640 --> 0:10:33.880 You can never be content in this business. 0:10:34.400 --> 0:10:37.960 As soon as you're content, you're done, because there's always 0:10:37.960 --> 0:10:41.800 somebody coming along that's younger, faster, stronger, and more hungry. 0:10:42.400 --> 0:10:46.400 But as as as veterans, you have to you said, 0:10:46.440 --> 0:10:47.720 all right, okay. 0:10:47.840 --> 0:10:51.360 It's my time now, I'm gonna embrace it, but knowing 0:10:51.400 --> 0:10:54.440 that it might be someone else's time later, let me 0:10:54.520 --> 0:10:57.280 help them. And then when my time come back again, 0:10:58.080 --> 0:10:59.240 I'll be ready to Yeah. 0:10:59.400 --> 0:11:03.080 Yeah, And that's that's the hard part is when that 0:11:03.160 --> 0:11:06.439 climb up, man, that climb up is awesome, yeah, because 0:11:06.480 --> 0:11:08.440 you feel it right, you know it, and then you 0:11:08.480 --> 0:11:08.960 get there. 0:11:09.160 --> 0:11:09.400 Yeah. 0:11:09.520 --> 0:11:11.760 And for you guys like you get that ring right. 0:11:11.800 --> 0:11:13.720 You're trying to stay there as long as you pop. 0:11:13.360 --> 0:11:18.440 Me, you scratch your flaw and you hang on to it. 0:11:18.520 --> 0:11:23.040 So yeah, it's important for the veterans to help those guys. 0:11:23.080 --> 0:11:25.960 And you know, being a veteran helping some of the 0:11:26.000 --> 0:11:28.080 young fighters now that are up and coming, you know, 0:11:28.120 --> 0:11:30.160 giving them the knowledge on what it takes to be great, 0:11:30.240 --> 0:11:33.120 what it takes to be consistent, having that structure, having 0:11:33.120 --> 0:11:36.400 that discipline. Everyone here is a fan of rassling. Everyone 0:11:36.440 --> 0:11:39.520 here has a pacific raster that they like and enjoy 0:11:39.640 --> 0:11:40.319 watching today. 0:11:40.920 --> 0:11:43.920 So for you, in today's. 0:11:43.720 --> 0:11:47.040 Rastling landscape, who is your favorite raster to watch? 0:11:48.760 --> 0:11:52.920 Oh man, I tell you, because because he's such an 0:11:52.960 --> 0:11:55.960 old school guy, I probably won't won't be received real well, 0:11:56.360 --> 0:12:02.360 but I love Gunther Okay, okay, I do. Absolutely. There's 0:12:02.600 --> 0:12:04.280 there's there's no flash. 0:12:04.640 --> 0:12:05.600 There's no flash. 0:12:05.679 --> 0:12:07.760 What you get is somebody going to there and he's 0:12:07.760 --> 0:12:10.440 gonna stomp your guts out. He's gonna chop you up, 0:12:10.520 --> 0:12:14.720 he's gonna beat you up, and you know, he flying 0:12:14.800 --> 0:12:17.080 around doing a bunch of silly stuff. He's in there 0:12:17.720 --> 0:12:20.480 and you I mean, he's just a serious character, and 0:12:20.520 --> 0:12:23.600 he's a throwback. He's a throwback to a different generation 0:12:24.160 --> 0:12:27.040 and it and it just lets you know that you know, old, 0:12:27.120 --> 0:12:28.880 what what is old can be new again. 0:12:30.640 --> 0:12:34.520 Is there anybody that in today's wrestling reminds you of Takr? 0:12:34.880 --> 0:12:37.439 No? 0:12:38.840 --> 0:12:44.160 No, uh no, not really. I mean, you know there 0:12:44.240 --> 0:12:47.199 was unfore, you know, there was Bray Bray Wyatt was 0:12:47.240 --> 0:12:51.640 coming along before he you know, before his unfortunate you know, 0:12:51.720 --> 0:12:55.280 demise of it, but it uh, you know, he he 0:12:55.400 --> 0:13:01.160 had that that aura, that that kind of other worldly 0:13:01.280 --> 0:13:05.559 type character, and I you know, it's obviously it's a 0:13:05.600 --> 0:13:09.840 shame what happened with with Bray because I think he 0:13:09.880 --> 0:13:12.280 had only begin to scratch the surface of how great 0:13:13.160 --> 0:13:13.840 he was going to be. 0:13:14.679 --> 0:13:16.319 You've taken it behind the scenes role. 0:13:16.360 --> 0:13:19.280 If I'm not mistaken with Triple A, which is, if 0:13:19.280 --> 0:13:22.480 I'm not mistaken, w w E purchased it. So so 0:13:22.600 --> 0:13:25.600 what what is your role entails which would Triple A? 0:13:26.679 --> 0:13:30.000 Uh So, I don't really I don't talk about it 0:13:30.040 --> 0:13:32.480 a whole lot, but I'm down there in a in 0:13:32.520 --> 0:13:37.439 a creative role, got an incredible team down there, and 0:13:37.480 --> 0:13:42.880 we are trying. Uh you know, Lucha libre is a 0:13:43.400 --> 0:13:47.640 is a wrestling style all to itself. Yes, and kind 0:13:47.640 --> 0:13:50.040 of going back to my last comment about old school 0:13:50.040 --> 0:13:55.520 and yes, like like like Gunther, it's kind of crazy 0:13:55.640 --> 0:13:59.800 that somebody like me is in it's doing creative for 0:14:00.400 --> 0:14:04.720 a Louta libre product, right, because those guys are incredible. 0:14:04.920 --> 0:14:07.000 They I mean, they will fly and do things like 0:14:07.040 --> 0:14:09.440 you just like, how in the world do they do that? 0:14:10.360 --> 0:14:13.960 But you know, we're just what we're. 0:14:13.760 --> 0:14:16.560 Trying to do down there and be involved is. 0:14:16.920 --> 0:14:20.600 To tell better stories, yes, be a little more. 0:14:20.480 --> 0:14:24.800 Physical and be true to to lout your libre and 0:14:24.840 --> 0:14:29.280 that's that's uh. And give them some a better production value. 0:14:30.080 --> 0:14:34.119 They've been doing things for a long time down there 0:14:34.160 --> 0:14:37.440 in a very simplistic way. So now we have that 0:14:37.680 --> 0:14:42.680 ww production machine that we're implementing. You know, we we 0:14:42.880 --> 0:14:46.920 We've got a long way to go, but I'm I 0:14:46.920 --> 0:14:50.600 couldn't be more happy with I couldn't be more happy 0:14:50.640 --> 0:14:53.280 with the success that we've had so far. We're again, 0:14:53.360 --> 0:14:55.920 we're just I tell people this all the time. What 0:14:55.960 --> 0:14:58.440 we're trying to do there is I'm trying to take 0:14:58.440 --> 0:15:00.880 a step back, like a little bit of a step 0:15:00.920 --> 0:15:04.760 back in wrestling, to take a step forward and a 0:15:04.760 --> 0:15:06.800 little bit of old school mixed with the new school. 0:15:06.880 --> 0:15:10.440 Hopefully we're going to have a very unique and interesting 0:15:10.480 --> 0:15:13.040 product that not only people in Mexico want to see, 0:15:13.320 --> 0:15:14.280 but all over the world. 0:15:14.160 --> 0:15:16.120 Assess it was. 0:15:16.200 --> 0:15:18.520 It's interesting to me because when I grew up, I 0:15:18.520 --> 0:15:20.960 didn't know anything about storylines. I just thought two guys 0:15:21.000 --> 0:15:22.400 getting the ring and beat hell out of each other. 0:15:23.000 --> 0:15:27.760 But there are storylines? Does it? How long is a storyline. 0:15:27.840 --> 0:15:29.800 Is it just for that match or two matches or 0:15:29.800 --> 0:15:32.760 are they trying to build something for say a month, 0:15:32.760 --> 0:15:33.560 two month, three months? 0:15:33.600 --> 0:15:37.680 How did this work? It's up to them. Oh, it's 0:15:38.080 --> 0:15:39.120 like you can. You can. 0:15:39.200 --> 0:15:42.960 You can have this brilliant idea in your mind and like, oh, man, 0:15:43.040 --> 0:15:46.080 I want to see I want to see wrestler A 0:15:46.200 --> 0:15:48.960 fight wrestler B. And you think this is going to 0:15:49.000 --> 0:15:51.000 be the greatest thing ever. And then you kind of 0:15:51.000 --> 0:15:53.440 start looking at when like, I would love to get 0:15:53.440 --> 0:15:56.640 this match all the way to WrestleMania. But then you 0:15:56.640 --> 0:15:59.840 you put it out there and sometimes it ain't as good. 0:16:00.400 --> 0:16:03.160 It's just like a it's just like a play call right, 0:16:04.680 --> 0:16:08.840 walk practice It works right, yes, but it's the same thing. 0:16:09.000 --> 0:16:12.960 Like but again, if your audience doesn't resonate or they 0:16:12.960 --> 0:16:16.480 don't get with it, then you know it's uh, I 0:16:17.200 --> 0:16:19.240 call it pissing up a rope. You ain't gonna get 0:16:19.320 --> 0:16:20.280 nothing but your hands wet. 0:16:20.320 --> 0:16:21.480 That's you know what. 0:16:21.520 --> 0:16:22.880 I'm glad you said that. 0:16:23.000 --> 0:16:26.320 And obviously it's all about the fans obviously knowing and 0:16:26.400 --> 0:16:29.160 understanding what they want, always being two steps ahead, especially 0:16:29.160 --> 0:16:32.360 when it comes to creativity and storyline. When it comes 0:16:32.400 --> 0:16:34.680 to those that wrestle. It comes to those that have 0:16:34.800 --> 0:16:37.480 creative control on what the storylines are gonna be. Do 0:16:37.560 --> 0:16:39.960 you pay attention to what the fans say and what 0:16:40.000 --> 0:16:40.880 they want? 0:16:41.680 --> 0:16:43.440 Well, you you do. 0:16:43.760 --> 0:16:47.240 There's there's a lot. There's there's a lot that goes 0:16:47.280 --> 0:16:52.760 into that. Yeah, because obviously they're not in the know 0:16:53.000 --> 0:16:57.040 of what the big the big picture is. And sometimes 0:16:57.160 --> 0:16:59.920 people get impatient and don't want to they don't want 0:16:59.920 --> 0:17:02.440 to wait right and and and that's part of the 0:17:02.480 --> 0:17:06.280 storytelling aspect. But you have to be able to have 0:17:06.400 --> 0:17:10.240 these beats in the story that keep them like, oh, okay, 0:17:10.320 --> 0:17:12.080 I want to captivate it. I want to see like 0:17:12.160 --> 0:17:14.480 every you know, back in the day and and you know, 0:17:14.520 --> 0:17:16.560 in the in the in the Monday night war like 0:17:16.640 --> 0:17:19.000 everybody was like we would go off with a cliffhanger 0:17:19.000 --> 0:17:21.000 and everybody like and we didn't have so we didn't 0:17:21.040 --> 0:17:24.080 have as much cover. You know, you couldn't just go 0:17:24.200 --> 0:17:27.240 to YouTube or whatever it up. You had to wait. 0:17:27.720 --> 0:17:29.440 You had to wait till the next Monday Night to 0:17:29.480 --> 0:17:34.920 see what was going to happen. So you know. So yeah, 0:17:34.960 --> 0:17:37.040 So so to answer your question, I mean you had 0:17:37.040 --> 0:17:39.439 to have you have to have good creative and it 0:17:39.480 --> 0:17:42.160 has to it has to resonate to a certain extent 0:17:43.160 --> 0:17:46.560 with your audience and you have to listen. But you 0:17:46.600 --> 0:17:49.400 can't let it dictate either, right, That's I think that's 0:17:49.480 --> 0:17:52.440 kind of a problem if you if if it solely 0:17:52.480 --> 0:17:55.280 dictates on that, then you you get you lose focus 0:17:55.359 --> 0:17:56.080 of what it is you're. 0:17:56.000 --> 0:17:56.479 Trying to do. 0:17:56.880 --> 0:18:00.520 Agents now revealed and uh recently that you gave him 0:18:00.560 --> 0:18:03.720 the gloves in your final match, the boneyard match during 0:18:03.720 --> 0:18:04.399 the pandemic. 0:18:04.600 --> 0:18:05.560 How did that come about? 0:18:06.040 --> 0:18:08.399 Because I guess in wrestling, like when you're done with it, 0:18:08.440 --> 0:18:09.880 you leave your boots in the sun of the ring, 0:18:10.280 --> 0:18:12.280 and so you knew this was this, This was it 0:18:12.359 --> 0:18:13.320 for Taker. 0:18:13.400 --> 0:18:15.960 Yeah, there was no coming back from the boneyard. Wouldn't 0:18:16.000 --> 0:18:19.520 lose draw that that was That was definitely it for me. 0:18:19.600 --> 0:18:21.440 I got everything out of the sponge that I could 0:18:21.480 --> 0:18:25.919 possibly get. I wrung it up. So, you know, I 0:18:25.960 --> 0:18:32.480 always my WrestleMania opponents. I've just always you know, when 0:18:32.520 --> 0:18:35.200 the street came into play, and then just my part 0:18:35.280 --> 0:18:39.720 as WrestleMania, I always wanted to leave my my opponents 0:18:39.800 --> 0:18:42.480 was something that they were gonna remember that with. So 0:18:42.840 --> 0:18:47.080 at the conclusion, of the boneyard. People say, I'm crazy 0:18:47.080 --> 0:18:50.200 for it, but I took my the I gave the 0:18:50.920 --> 0:18:54.840 gloves that I wore in that match to to AJ 0:18:55.000 --> 0:19:00.280 styles and and he has them. He has AJ has 0:19:00.400 --> 0:19:03.240 the last pair of gloves that I ever that I 0:19:03.240 --> 0:19:06.720 ever used. So yeah, and and it and it means 0:19:06.760 --> 0:19:09.280 the world to him, and it was cool, and he said, 0:19:09.320 --> 0:19:12.400 and he gave me his. So I have his gloves 0:19:12.400 --> 0:19:15.280 that he you know, he fought in and he's got mine. 0:19:15.320 --> 0:19:16.520 And it's kind of a cool deal. 0:19:16.600 --> 0:19:18.679 I can look up on the shelf and like, you 0:19:18.720 --> 0:19:21.919 know what we tore We tore it up that night. 0:19:22.119 --> 0:19:25.480 So you knew going into that match plus twenty plus, 0:19:25.480 --> 0:19:28.199 two decades plus, you know, Yeah, this is it for me. 0:19:28.280 --> 0:19:31.240 This is the ride stops here, whether whether they wanted 0:19:31.280 --> 0:19:33.520 to stop or not. I'm getting off this ride. Yeah, 0:19:33.600 --> 0:19:37.040 your body beat up, Oh my gosh, Yeah, my body 0:19:37.119 --> 0:19:38.399 was beat up ten years prior. 0:19:40.840 --> 0:19:44.560 Yeah. No, it actually the the at that night in 0:19:44.600 --> 0:19:46.800 the boneyard, like I was, I was looking for one 0:19:46.840 --> 0:19:49.800 particular match that I could hang my hat on and 0:19:49.840 --> 0:19:51.959 walk away, like I could put my six shooters up 0:19:52.000 --> 0:19:55.520 and and and go home and stay. And it just happened. 0:19:56.359 --> 0:20:00.719 You know that that match was was filmed all it was. 0:20:01.280 --> 0:20:04.200 It started at about eight o'clock at night, and we 0:20:04.400 --> 0:20:07.399 finished that match at sometime at like five in the morning. 0:20:08.359 --> 0:20:11.600 And it was at about three in the morning when 0:20:11.640 --> 0:20:15.159 I'm I'm I was standing there and I was like this. 0:20:15.280 --> 0:20:18.920 I had a moment and I was like, I'm done right, 0:20:19.320 --> 0:20:21.680 Like there is no this is it. And it was 0:20:21.720 --> 0:20:25.040 a moment of clarity. And it wasn't any sorrow. There 0:20:25.080 --> 0:20:27.400 wasn't any like, man, I should I wish I'd got 0:20:27.400 --> 0:20:30.159 to do this. It was as clear as day. I 0:20:30.240 --> 0:20:33.800 knew that I'd got everything. The desire was still there, right, 0:20:33.880 --> 0:20:36.800 but I knew my body could not It just couldn't deliver. 0:20:37.720 --> 0:20:39.640 And I didn't want to live on equity that I'd 0:20:39.640 --> 0:20:42.199 built through the next you know, the last thirty years. 0:20:42.640 --> 0:20:46.280 You know, this is a very gracious audience, but there's 0:20:46.320 --> 0:20:49.640 at a point you got to decide, like my legacy 0:20:49.720 --> 0:20:54.040 becomes involved in this and and I was already skirting that, 0:20:54.359 --> 0:20:54.880 you know, I. 0:20:54.840 --> 0:20:56.560 Was They deserve the best taker. 0:20:56.800 --> 0:20:59.360 Absolutely, I would hate it always. It always would kill 0:20:59.400 --> 0:21:04.040 me to know, like a father like and I had 0:21:04.040 --> 0:21:06.800 a lot of them today in my in my in 0:21:06.880 --> 0:21:10.800 my signing today and my photos with their with their kids, 0:21:11.359 --> 0:21:13.160 and they had watched me as a kid and they 0:21:13.480 --> 0:21:15.800