WEBVTT - The One About Car Washes

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to stuff you should know, a production of iHeartRadio.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, and welcome to the car wash I mean podcast,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean pod wash. This is Josh and there's Chuck

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<v Speaker 2>and Jerry's here too, and this is stuff you should wash.

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<v Speaker 1>No, put your car in neutral. Think your foot off

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<v Speaker 1>the gas, foot off the break well gas? Really?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I guess, I guess, but yeah, break.

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<v Speaker 1>See, I'm fired. That's why you get promoted.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, you're you know, I keep you on. You're a

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<v Speaker 2>great guy. You keep morale up with the other employee.

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<v Speaker 1>So I've kept a lot of jobs that way.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll betman, I'll bet I've lost a lot of jobs

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<v Speaker 2>because of the opposite, Because your photos on the brake,

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<v Speaker 2>because I purposely kept my foot on the brake.

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<v Speaker 1>Question, what what's your deal? How do you How do

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<v Speaker 1>you get your cars clean? I walk me through that.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, I guess, really, we get them cleaned. We have

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<v Speaker 2>a guy who details sometimes he's really reasonable and good.

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<v Speaker 1>Like at your house. Yeah that's still never done that.

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<v Speaker 2>But well it can get really pricey. We just happened

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<v Speaker 2>upon this guy who was good and very inexpensive comparatively.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean some of those are.

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<v Speaker 1>Like four or five A pop that's too much money to.

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<v Speaker 2>Get, yes, and so we stumbled upon this guy. So

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<v Speaker 2>even even though we still use them kind of sparingly. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>most of the time, we'll take them through an automated

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<v Speaker 2>car wash, a friction type, no less, and that's what

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<v Speaker 2>we do. And then we vacuument ourselves afterward, and we

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<v Speaker 2>get all sweaty and we start giggling and laughing and

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<v Speaker 2>we go get a slushy.

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<v Speaker 1>Nice Scott is that is a slushy thing a tradition

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<v Speaker 1>for real?

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, I just made that up. It seemed like

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<v Speaker 2>a nice ending.

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<v Speaker 1>You get me again, but that one was too normy.

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<v Speaker 2>And believe no, I know, I wasn't trying to get you.

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<v Speaker 2>I was just trying to put a pleasant spin on

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<v Speaker 2>sweaty vacuuming.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I got you. Okay, slushy sounds like a nice ritual,

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<v Speaker 1>think about it.

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<v Speaker 2>I could go for a slushie right now. A blue raspberry,

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<v Speaker 2>that's my favorite.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh yeah, I like a little coca cola and cherry mixed.

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<v Speaker 1>If we're talking traditional.

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<v Speaker 2>Icies, well that's a frozen coke right, Yeah, those are

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<v Speaker 2>good too. I grew up on those. Yeah, you remember

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<v Speaker 2>the straws that had like the cutout at the bottom

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<v Speaker 2>which made it kind of like a little spoon too.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, gosh, good stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>How about you? How do you get your car washed?

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<v Speaker 2>Or do you not? Because I read that sixteen percent

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<v Speaker 2>of people don't.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't watch their cars at all.

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<v Speaker 2>Ever, like apparently theyn't own a car and never wash

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<v Speaker 2>it for the entire time they own it, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I see those occasionally and I'm wondering, do you even

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<v Speaker 1>ever wash your car? And maybe not?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you even know what people say about you behind

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<v Speaker 2>your back?

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<v Speaker 1>They right washed me on your car right on rules.

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<v Speaker 1>I go through the The corporation is called Swifty, but

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<v Speaker 1>I've always called it the Shifty, I think because of

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<v Speaker 1>that old Internet cartoon from years and years ago, So

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<v Speaker 1>I called the Shifty. And so I go through the

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<v Speaker 1>Shifty about about once a month or so. And there

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<v Speaker 1>you vacuum beforehand, and even though you're not supposed to,

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<v Speaker 1>I do like my armor rawling and stuff like that,

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<v Speaker 1>my sort of lazy detail. And then I drive through

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<v Speaker 1>the Shifty, usually with Ruby, she loves the car wash.

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<v Speaker 1>And now because of the great TV show High Maintenance,

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<v Speaker 1>I got it from Ben Sinclair and High Maintenance, I

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<v Speaker 1>crank up the song Plantasia that you know well, but

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<v Speaker 1>that served as our opening song to our Biosphere two tour,

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<v Speaker 1>so he did that in of course he was getting

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<v Speaker 1>like super high in slow motion listening to plant Asia.

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<v Speaker 1>So Ruby and I aren't doing that part. But that's

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<v Speaker 1>the tradition, she says, put on the song, we put

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<v Speaker 1>on the song. We go through this fifty and that's

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<v Speaker 1>how I get my car clean, except maybe once a

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<v Speaker 1>year I will take it and drop it off for

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<v Speaker 1>like a good non lazy chuck detail. I got you,

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<v Speaker 1>but I never had anyone come to the house man.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the that's the dream.

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<v Speaker 2>One day chuck there to dream.

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<v Speaker 1>I know. Just Emily doesn't do any washing. She's always

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<v Speaker 1>just like, can you please take my car to get detailed. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm with you, and I'll just make that happen.

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<v Speaker 2>And yes, that's one way you can clean a cart.

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<v Speaker 2>You can have a detailed You can go to one

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<v Speaker 2>of those like open brick bays that have a high

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<v Speaker 2>pressure washer hose.

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<v Speaker 1>I used to do that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we're not talking about those, we're talking about a

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<v Speaker 2>specific kind of car wash, typically the automated car wash,

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<v Speaker 2>where you you do what you just described you just

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<v Speaker 2>go through a wild ride and your car gets cleaned

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<v Speaker 2>as you move through a tunnel and come out the

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<v Speaker 2>other side. And there's a bunch of other types, but

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<v Speaker 2>there's like a long, storied history. And what I took

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<v Speaker 2>from this research, Chuck, is that that history is all American.

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<v Speaker 1>It really is, because since the car started being a thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe the first vehicle washer patent was given out

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<v Speaker 1>in nineteen oh one to scare it Hanley of Milwaukee, Wisconsin, American.

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<v Speaker 1>And when the Model T came out, you had your

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<v Speaker 1>first what was known as an automobile laundry. But these

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<v Speaker 1>were all on the West coast. They were like Portland,

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<v Speaker 1>Oregon for some reason.

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<v Speaker 2>San Francis as count is America.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely. But then that thing you sent me was wild

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm literally as like I'm fifty three years old

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<v Speaker 1>when I learned of that car bowl that people drove around,

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<v Speaker 1>and what were those called?

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<v Speaker 2>I think they called it an auto bowl?

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<v Speaker 1>An auto bowl? Can you describe that?

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<v Speaker 2>It's like a concave. It's almost like a giant bird

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<v Speaker 2>bath that multiple cars can drive around in a circle.

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<v Speaker 2>And apparently the bottom is purposely ridged in concrete to

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<v Speaker 2>make the whole ride very bumpy, and you're driving through

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<v Speaker 2>water that comes up to the undercarriage of your car. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>old timey car by the ways the twenties. And while

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<v Speaker 2>you're doing this, it gets all the mud and muck

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<v Speaker 2>off of your car from all the unpaved roads.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's like a little splash pad and you just

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<v Speaker 1>do donuts and everyone else is doing donuts and splashing

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<v Speaker 1>each other, and it just it looked like a really

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<v Speaker 1>kind of fun idea.

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<v Speaker 2>It did. But then think about that water man and

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<v Speaker 2>the stuff shutting off of the bottom of their cars.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you want to be first in line each day.

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<v Speaker 2>For sure, like for grand opening, and then never come back.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, those were super cool, though not what we

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<v Speaker 1>were talking about with the automobile laundry. Like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>they started on the West Coast. But then if you

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<v Speaker 1>want to leave the West Coast and go to the

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<v Speaker 1>first automobile laundry, you'd have to go to Detroit, where

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<v Speaker 1>Frank McCormick and JW. Hinkle opened up an automobile laundry

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<v Speaker 1>in nineteen thirteen, charging a dollar fifty, which is close

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<v Speaker 1>to fifty bucks for that twenty minute watch.

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<v Speaker 2>Forty five bucks. I saw which is I mean, this

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<v Speaker 2>is essentially detailing, though, is what they were doing. Like

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<v Speaker 2>you would bring your car in, you would get out

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<v Speaker 2>and stand around, and a bunch of professionals would clean

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<v Speaker 2>your car inside and out. So yeah, I mean that's

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<v Speaker 2>pretty good for a detail today, even if they did

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<v Speaker 2>a half a so so job.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and that was in nineteen thirteen. That hey, that's

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<v Speaker 1>fifty it's sort of clean as well. You know what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that the one that's at the corner of Ponce and.

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<v Speaker 1>No, that's Cactus.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's a good one. I used to go there.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Now that's a detailing place, okay. And that's where

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<v Speaker 1>I would go when we were recording at Pont City Market.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's one reason I don't detail as much anymore,

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<v Speaker 1>because I could just drop it off there and then

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<v Speaker 1>walk over to work. Yeah, and we don't do that

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<v Speaker 1>anymore because that building has been demolished.

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<v Speaker 2>Has it really pun out market?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I'm just kidding.

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<v Speaker 2>I was gonna say, Wow, I didn't realize we were

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<v Speaker 2>propping it up that much.

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<v Speaker 1>No, it emotionally is demolished for me. But over the

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<v Speaker 1>teen years, there were various patents awarded a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>different like apparatus, like you know, maybe a better sprayer

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<v Speaker 1>or a better hose piping systems. Like there were a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of different patents handed out, and then finally in

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<v Speaker 1>the nineteen twenties we got our conveyor belt car washes,

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<v Speaker 1>but still not automated because they had like forty people

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<v Speaker 1>like you would watch the bumper, then the next person

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<v Speaker 1>would watch the back right fender and that kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but this was so this is the first gleaming

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<v Speaker 2>of the automated car wash that we know and love today.

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<v Speaker 2>Cunningham's Automobile Laundry was debuted in Chicago in nineteen twenty two,

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<v Speaker 2>and like you said, there was a bunch of people

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<v Speaker 2>and they did an assembly line style because everybody was

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<v Speaker 2>crazy about the assembly line at the time. They would

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<v Speaker 2>hook your car up to a chain and tow it

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<v Speaker 2>along and as it was passing, people would do whatever

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<v Speaker 2>they were supposed to do, Like this guy was in

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<v Speaker 2>charge of cleaning off the headlights. This guy picked you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the gnats, the dead gnats off of the canopy of

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<v Speaker 2>the car. Everyone had a job and it was actually

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<v Speaker 2>an improvement from some of the earlier ones where they

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<v Speaker 2>used the assembly line because there would be people who

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<v Speaker 2>had to push it from station to station. So I'm

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<v Speaker 2>quite sure that the workers were like, we love this

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<v Speaker 2>tow line thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Absolutely, they don't have to push a car around,

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<v Speaker 1>and those cars are heavy.

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<v Speaker 2>Who wants to do that?

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<v Speaker 1>They're not like these light things these days. Right pre

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<v Speaker 1>World War Two, that was mostly those laundries. After the war,

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<v Speaker 1>there was a guy, well, there were a couple of people. Really.

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<v Speaker 1>Nineteen forty six was a big year. There's one guy

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<v Speaker 1>named Thomas Simpson who was credited as creating the first

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<v Speaker 1>semi automatic system. It also had a conveyor. You hooked

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<v Speaker 1>your car to a bumper and it did its thing,

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<v Speaker 1>but you still got out of the car. And there

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<v Speaker 1>were still people involved. That same year, in nineteen forty six,

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<v Speaker 1>a guy named Leo Russo. And I've seen different stories

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<v Speaker 1>about this guy. I saw that he had this idea

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<v Speaker 1>before the war, but then World War two comes along

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<v Speaker 1>and they take his steel foundry business the government and

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<v Speaker 1>basically says, hey, you got to start making military parts

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<v Speaker 1>for us. So he kind of refined his Minutemann it

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<v Speaker 1>system during the war and then pivoted and started kind

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<v Speaker 1>of making this system. He built the actual equipment as

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<v Speaker 1>a system and said, hey, you can buy this Minuteman system.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's pretty much the standard today. If you want

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<v Speaker 2>to open a car wash. There's plenty of companies that

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<v Speaker 2>manufacture entire car wash systems. You just need to build

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<v Speaker 2>the building and then buy their parts and install them.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and someone will build your building too.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, you don't have to do it yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, a lot of money get this done.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I hope you know how to la bricks.

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<v Speaker 1>The Minuteman would cost about two hundred and seventy grand today.

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<v Speaker 1>He sold it to people for sixteen thousand.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, And so this was a huge breakthrough as far

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<v Speaker 2>as like automatic car washes went. Like there were still

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<v Speaker 2>people involved, true, but and they used the existing technology

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<v Speaker 2>where you towed a car through a very long tunnel.

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<v Speaker 2>But there was also like like all manner of new

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<v Speaker 2>apparatus and machines and cool stuff that your car would

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<v Speaker 2>encounter along the way. Like now there were spinning brushes,

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<v Speaker 2>there were jets of soapy water. They used vacuums that

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<v Speaker 2>could suck the two pay right off of somebody twenty

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<v Speaker 2>paces away. There was the overhead dryers that kind of

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<v Speaker 2>hung down, like the ductwork hung down, and it looked

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<v Speaker 2>like you were kind of passing under a giant silver octopus.

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<v Speaker 2>Like it was an amazing Like this guy basically said,

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<v Speaker 2>let me think of the future and filled it and

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<v Speaker 2>then eventually people will build better versions of what I created.

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<v Speaker 2>That's essentially what the minute Man system was.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, in nineteen forty six, which is impressive. His first

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<v Speaker 1>client was a guy named Paul Mouranian in Detroit once

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<v Speaker 1>again at Paul's Automatic Auto Wash again in nineteen forty six.

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<v Speaker 1>He sold that very first one and it was it's

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<v Speaker 1>recognized Paul's as the first automated car wash, so much

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<v Speaker 1>so that it had a Life magazine article written about it,

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<v Speaker 1>two minute car Washer colon spectacular new machine scrubs seven

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and fifty autos a day.

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<v Speaker 2>I just bought the thing, said Paul. I had nothing

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<v Speaker 2>to do with it. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, someone even built the building.

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<v Speaker 2>So one of the other things, like we said that

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<v Speaker 2>there were people still involved, but there was vastly fewer people.

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<v Speaker 2>I saw forty or fifty you could run into in

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<v Speaker 2>an auto laundry working to clean your car typically, but

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<v Speaker 2>with the with the minute Man system, it was down

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<v Speaker 2>to as few as eight people. That's a huge reduction

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<v Speaker 2>in workforce and therefore costs too. And that if there's

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<v Speaker 2>any theme or thread to the history of automated car

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<v Speaker 2>washes in the United States, it's getting as as many

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<v Speaker 2>humans as humanly possible out of jobs in the car

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<v Speaker 2>wash industry. That's that's essentially what they've been trying to

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<v Speaker 2>do since day one.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I was sort of laughing today, ironically at the

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<v Speaker 1>thought of like somebody in the tunnel where we can

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<v Speaker 1>where you can watch your car go by and get

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<v Speaker 1>cleaned by robots, like on social media complaining about like

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<v Speaker 1>AI technology getting rid of humans and stuff, and they're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>to six minutes for my card get washed by those machines, right,

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, you're right, that's I mean, that was one

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<v Speaker 1>of the first big examples of automation in America of like,

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<v Speaker 1>let's get people out of here, let's design these robotic

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<v Speaker 1>arms to spray things and scrub things. And it was

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<v Speaker 1>a huge hit, like huge There were fifty car washes

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<v Speaker 1>in America in nineteen forty six. When Paul's opened nine

0:14:10.440 --> 0:14:12.959
<v Speaker 1>years later, there were two thousand of them, and fifty

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<v Speaker 1>of them were opening per month.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because America is like, we love cars and we

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<v Speaker 2>have a bunch of money and pent up demand from

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<v Speaker 2>the war, so let's go nuts in the car wash industry.

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<v Speaker 2>Paul's or not Paul's, but Russo's minute Man system was

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<v Speaker 2>invented at the perfect moment essentially.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Absolutely. And then before we break, I think we

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<v Speaker 1>have to recognize the Anderson family, the Anderson boys, Archie,

0:14:40.120 --> 0:14:43.360
<v Speaker 1>Dean and Elden Anderson in Seattle in nineteen fifty one

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<v Speaker 1>opened up their Elephant Car wash, and that was what's

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<v Speaker 1>sort of looked back on basically as the first fully

0:14:51.160 --> 0:14:57.520
<v Speaker 1>automated automated automated I want to do one on the

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<v Speaker 1>automat by the way, Okay, I mean i'll tell you

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<v Speaker 1>about that.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that the lunch thing?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, yeah, but it was a no touch system,

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<v Speaker 1>meaning things touched your car, but basically people did.

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<v Speaker 2>Not right things, meaning like tools like brushes and stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, just because we're gonna we're gonna differentiate between the

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<v Speaker 1>touchless true touchless systems and the no fingy system right.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah. So finally in the early fifties we have

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<v Speaker 2>like the first truly automatic car washes at Elephant car

0:15:29.280 --> 0:15:32.000
<v Speaker 2>which is still around today. It's one of more iconic

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<v Speaker 2>signs in the United States totally. So okay, let's take

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<v Speaker 2>a break and you know, we'll come back. So I

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<v Speaker 2>said that, you know, we've been well, not we, but

0:16:05.120 --> 0:16:06.960
<v Speaker 2>the car wash industry has been trying to get few

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<v Speaker 2>and fewer people involved, like over time, and they've gotten

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<v Speaker 2>really good at it, because it's entirely possible now that

0:16:15.600 --> 0:16:19.480
<v Speaker 2>you will go to a car wash, a truly fully

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<v Speaker 2>automated car wash, and there will be one person you

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<v Speaker 2>run into, and that is the human being who is

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<v Speaker 2>standing at the entrance of the tunnel you're pulling into,

0:16:28.400 --> 0:16:31.600
<v Speaker 2>waiving you one direction or the other to get your

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<v Speaker 2>front left tire onto the conveyor that's going to pull

0:16:35.280 --> 0:16:38.560
<v Speaker 2>your car through that tunnel. That's that's essentially could be

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<v Speaker 2>the only person that you'll run into at a car wash.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, you know, I will say at my shifty and

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if it's a company thing or each

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<v Speaker 1>are you just laughing at shifty?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't know why it keeps getting me, but

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<v Speaker 2>it does.

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<v Speaker 1>It sure does. There are quite a few people that

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<v Speaker 1>work there still. Besides the person guiding you in, there's

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<v Speaker 1>there's probably six or seven people that you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>walk around and kind of make sure the vacuums are

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<v Speaker 1>working right, or they'll help you out if you can't

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<v Speaker 1>figure something out. Like it's still it's still customer friendly.

0:17:07.680 --> 0:17:10.919
<v Speaker 1>There's not just one, you know, someone picking their nose saying, like,

0:17:10.960 --> 0:17:13.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, put your foot off the brake and put

0:17:13.840 --> 0:17:14.400
<v Speaker 1>it in neutral.

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<v Speaker 2>There's one we go to and that is the only

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<v Speaker 2>person there. I mean, I'm sure there's other people inside

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<v Speaker 2>in the ac, but that's the one person working outside

0:17:24.400 --> 0:17:25.800
<v Speaker 2>at least one of the places we go.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I'm sure that's when you go to open up

0:17:28.480 --> 0:17:32.719
<v Speaker 1>a franchise. I'm sure the mister money Bags or missus

0:17:32.760 --> 0:17:36.439
<v Speaker 1>money Bags is like, how many people there was the

0:17:36.480 --> 0:17:38.919
<v Speaker 1>fewest amount of people I can get away with on

0:17:39.000 --> 0:17:42.480
<v Speaker 1>the pay roll, right, and shifty heads off to them

0:17:42.520 --> 0:17:45.280
<v Speaker 1>because they keep the payroll going at least a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and there's another model too. The one I'm talking

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<v Speaker 2>about is the fully automatic Express exterior model, which was

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<v Speaker 2>a revolution in car washes. I was developed by Benny's

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<v Speaker 2>Car Wash and Baton Rouge down in Louisiana in the

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<v Speaker 2>very early two thousands two thousand and one. As Kubrick

0:18:03.400 --> 0:18:07.000
<v Speaker 2>would put it, and they It just kind of took

0:18:07.040 --> 0:18:10.359
<v Speaker 2>off from there, because again, you need one person, Like

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<v Speaker 2>a bunch of manufacturers started making the machines that you

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<v Speaker 2>need to do this. Touchscreen technology started to develop a

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<v Speaker 2>lot more reliably, like you could basically walk away from

0:18:22.040 --> 0:18:25.240
<v Speaker 2>your car wash. I mean not really, but it took

0:18:25.359 --> 0:18:29.080
<v Speaker 2>a lot less of your time and effort to run

0:18:29.080 --> 0:18:31.680
<v Speaker 2>a car wash than it used to. And they'd already

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<v Speaker 2>tried this once before in the sixties and seventies. They

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<v Speaker 2>tried it with coin operated washes, but they tried to

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<v Speaker 2>just put those in and walk away, and that's just

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<v Speaker 2>not how it works. So those things got abandoned. That's

0:18:42.040 --> 0:18:45.840
<v Speaker 2>not happening with these right now. They're they're actually proliferating

0:18:45.880 --> 0:18:48.880
<v Speaker 2>at a untold speed.

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<v Speaker 1>I will also say this, boy, I'm really selling shifty

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<v Speaker 1>right here. But they have someone and this part annoyed me,

0:19:00.040 --> 0:19:02.400
<v Speaker 1>and now I understand it. They even have someone at

0:19:02.440 --> 0:19:06.479
<v Speaker 1>the touch screen when you're in your car, like push touching,

0:19:06.520 --> 0:19:09.600
<v Speaker 1>offering to touch the buttons for you. And I'm always like, no, man,

0:19:09.600 --> 0:19:13.040
<v Speaker 1>I got it, it's fine. But now I realize that

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<v Speaker 1>they also mention the subscription and they're trying to sell subscriptions,

0:19:18.280 --> 0:19:21.160
<v Speaker 1>is what's going on, Yeah, because that's where the big

0:19:21.200 --> 0:19:21.679
<v Speaker 1>money is.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, we'll talk about that in a second. But

0:19:25.200 --> 0:19:27.800
<v Speaker 2>at the one we go to, they let you use

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<v Speaker 2>your hand, but they hold your hand, they guide while

0:19:32.160 --> 0:19:33.639
<v Speaker 2>you make your selections.

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<v Speaker 1>Make a pointing finger, make a pointy finger.

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<v Speaker 2>Kind of off putting.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, So should we take someone through the actual

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<v Speaker 1>car wash?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, let's but get inside, take your foot off the brake,

0:19:45.560 --> 0:19:48.280
<v Speaker 2>put your car in neutral. Yeah, let's not play wrong,

0:19:48.320 --> 0:19:49.640
<v Speaker 2>because this is a serious business.

0:19:50.040 --> 0:19:54.520
<v Speaker 1>That's right. You put your car in between those rails.

0:19:54.800 --> 0:19:57.440
<v Speaker 1>Once they give you the thumbs up. Your car is

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be guided in there by something called a correlator,

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<v Speaker 1>and those are the perpendicular rollers to the tires that

0:20:02.600 --> 0:20:06.520
<v Speaker 1>are gonna slide that puppy right in there. And then you,

0:20:08.080 --> 0:20:09.960
<v Speaker 1>like you said, hopefully your foot is already off the

0:20:10.000 --> 0:20:12.119
<v Speaker 1>brake in the neutral, but if not, it should definitely

0:20:12.119 --> 0:20:14.480
<v Speaker 1>be by this point, right, And then you have these

0:20:14.520 --> 0:20:19.080
<v Speaker 1>other little wheels that pop up and move your car

0:20:19.119 --> 0:20:20.240
<v Speaker 1>along down that conveyor.

0:20:20.680 --> 0:20:23.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it can also be like a tread that's tall

0:20:24.040 --> 0:20:26.880
<v Speaker 2>enough to keep your car from rocking forward or backward. Right,

0:20:26.960 --> 0:20:30.800
<v Speaker 2>that's the newer version. So once the car enters a tunnel.

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<v Speaker 2>This is where I was like, oh, okay, and this

0:20:34.280 --> 0:20:36.840
<v Speaker 2>is fairly old technology, but from what I could tell,

0:20:37.240 --> 0:20:40.080
<v Speaker 2>it's still generally how they do it. There's a beam

0:20:40.119 --> 0:20:43.359
<v Speaker 2>and infrared beam that's constant until your car breaks it,

0:20:43.960 --> 0:20:47.200
<v Speaker 2>and the beam is connected to the computer that's running

0:20:47.240 --> 0:20:50.360
<v Speaker 2>the whole show, and it tells the computer just how

0:20:50.359 --> 0:20:53.840
<v Speaker 2>long the car is, and then depending on how long

0:20:53.960 --> 0:20:57.760
<v Speaker 2>the car is, the computer will adjust the wash that

0:20:57.840 --> 0:21:00.560
<v Speaker 2>it gets. It'll just how far back the roll going,

0:21:00.680 --> 0:21:03.960
<v Speaker 2>for what duration they spin for like, there's a lot

0:21:04.000 --> 0:21:06.399
<v Speaker 2>of information they get just from the length of the car,

0:21:06.640 --> 0:21:09.879
<v Speaker 2>and then that that kind of adjusts the wash that

0:21:09.960 --> 0:21:10.760
<v Speaker 2>you're going to get.

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<v Speaker 1>Never even occurred to me that that's I just figured

0:21:14.160 --> 0:21:15.240
<v Speaker 1>everyone got the same watch.

0:21:15.520 --> 0:21:18.199
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, me too, I thought so until yesterday. They have

0:21:18.240 --> 0:21:21.320
<v Speaker 2>another one that's similar at the exit where you're supposed

0:21:21.359 --> 0:21:23.800
<v Speaker 2>to break it, and then if it doesn't go back

0:21:24.320 --> 0:21:26.920
<v Speaker 2>in the time that the computer calculates it should, it

0:21:27.680 --> 0:21:29.879
<v Speaker 2>assumes that you've stopped at the exit, and it shuts

0:21:29.920 --> 0:21:32.960
<v Speaker 2>down the conveyor and the whole thing and all these

0:21:33.000 --> 0:21:35.240
<v Speaker 2>teenagers come over and start yelling at you, right.

0:21:36.920 --> 0:21:37.800
<v Speaker 1>Put it in drive.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, what's wrong with you?

0:21:40.040 --> 0:21:44.280
<v Speaker 1>Man? While you're going through there, you're going to get

0:21:44.280 --> 0:21:47.080
<v Speaker 1>that pre wash sprayed on there. That's going to start

0:21:47.080 --> 0:21:49.879
<v Speaker 1>to loosen everything up a little bit. Then you go through.

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<v Speaker 1>These things have names. It's called a mitter curtain, that

0:21:54.040 --> 0:21:58.959
<v Speaker 1>sort of Sigmund the sea monster fabric strip that goes

0:21:59.200 --> 0:22:02.680
<v Speaker 1>left to right you drive under is called a mitter curtain.

0:22:03.359 --> 0:22:07.720
<v Speaker 2>Right, and they I think of a more like Grimace

0:22:07.760 --> 0:22:11.600
<v Speaker 2>than anything. They remind me of Grimace from McDonald's. Okay,

0:22:12.080 --> 0:22:14.440
<v Speaker 2>the whole point of is it basically lays on top

0:22:14.520 --> 0:22:17.600
<v Speaker 2>of your car and moves around to kind of rub

0:22:17.640 --> 0:22:20.719
<v Speaker 2>in that solution and also kind of rub off whatever

0:22:20.800 --> 0:22:24.000
<v Speaker 2>grim it can. It's almost like, so if the solution

0:22:24.200 --> 0:22:28.200
<v Speaker 2>is like the shampoo that your stylist puts in your hair,

0:22:28.520 --> 0:22:30.960
<v Speaker 2>the midter curtain is their fingers working it through.

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<v Speaker 1>Is there anything better than that when you get your

0:22:33.440 --> 0:22:33.840
<v Speaker 1>hair cut?

0:22:36.359 --> 0:22:38.720
<v Speaker 2>No? Not really that with like a hot towel and

0:22:38.760 --> 0:22:40.600
<v Speaker 2>all that stuff. It's pretty good.

0:22:40.920 --> 0:22:43.119
<v Speaker 1>Like now, I know, I aw the kings and queens

0:22:43.160 --> 0:22:45.440
<v Speaker 1>and royalty head people wash their hair. HiT's the best.

0:22:45.760 --> 0:22:50.280
<v Speaker 2>Sure, our detailed guy does that too, right there in

0:22:50.320 --> 0:22:51.000
<v Speaker 2>our driveway.

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<v Speaker 1>Josh you first, or Umi, okay, take your foot off

0:22:55.800 --> 0:22:59.600
<v Speaker 1>the brake, close your eyes. Then you get the foam,

0:22:59.720 --> 0:23:02.440
<v Speaker 1>usually some sort of deep cleaner. Uh. And you're gonna

0:23:02.480 --> 0:23:04.760
<v Speaker 1>get all manner of and you know they're all a little

0:23:04.760 --> 0:23:06.560
<v Speaker 1>bit different, but you're gonna your car's gonna be getting

0:23:06.560 --> 0:23:09.439
<v Speaker 1>sprayed down really hard. You're gonna have scrubbies that are

0:23:09.440 --> 0:23:13.080
<v Speaker 1>gonna be slapping the side of your car, plantages playing.

0:23:13.600 --> 0:23:19.640
<v Speaker 1>You and your daughter are laughing. Your car gets medium

0:23:20.240 --> 0:23:25.840
<v Speaker 1>i'd say low, low high to medium high clean. Okay,

0:23:26.000 --> 0:23:27.919
<v Speaker 1>when you get through it, it doesn't you know, this

0:23:28.040 --> 0:23:29.480
<v Speaker 1>is a lazy way to do it, and it costs

0:23:29.520 --> 0:23:33.199
<v Speaker 1>like five or six bucks. So that's why I do it.

0:23:33.240 --> 0:23:36.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm not fooling myself into thinking that this is a

0:23:36.080 --> 0:23:38.800
<v Speaker 1>great wash and then it doesn't maybe scratch up my

0:23:38.840 --> 0:23:39.920
<v Speaker 1>car a little bit here and there.

0:23:40.440 --> 0:23:42.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's not supposed to them. We'll we'll talk about

0:23:42.760 --> 0:23:46.199
<v Speaker 2>why in a second, but it's it's not supposed to.

0:23:46.680 --> 0:23:51.280
<v Speaker 2>It totally does the if you get wax, you'll get

0:23:51.320 --> 0:23:54.359
<v Speaker 2>wax after that rent in the second mitter curtain and

0:23:54.440 --> 0:23:57.400
<v Speaker 2>then you'll get dried off. They have one now called

0:23:57.440 --> 0:24:01.400
<v Speaker 2>the laser wash three sixty which is a amazing and

0:24:01.600 --> 0:24:04.240
<v Speaker 2>in a ten second pass it can remove eighty percent

0:24:04.240 --> 0:24:05.480
<v Speaker 2>of the water on your car.

0:24:06.359 --> 0:24:10.439
<v Speaker 1>Right, But see that one is totally touchless, right the

0:24:10.520 --> 0:24:12.520
<v Speaker 1>laser wash, Yeah.

0:24:12.200 --> 0:24:14.320
<v Speaker 2>Yes, but it still has a drier function.

0:24:14.960 --> 0:24:15.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:24:15.200 --> 0:24:17.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was just too good of a stat not

0:24:17.160 --> 0:24:18.680
<v Speaker 2>to share. I had to find a place to put

0:24:18.720 --> 0:24:18.959
<v Speaker 2>it in.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I love it. I also love that rain shower

0:24:22.840 --> 0:24:25.920
<v Speaker 1>at the end this article that Day Prepared for Us

0:24:26.560 --> 0:24:30.800
<v Speaker 1>talks about the high pressure jets to remove everything. Mine

0:24:30.840 --> 0:24:34.720
<v Speaker 1>does a very heavy rain shower type of thing, which

0:24:34.760 --> 0:24:35.359
<v Speaker 1>I really enjoy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I love that.

0:24:37.040 --> 0:24:39.359
<v Speaker 1>And then that dryer that what do they say they

0:24:39.359 --> 0:24:41.240
<v Speaker 1>get about eighty percent off or is that just the

0:24:41.320 --> 0:24:42.119
<v Speaker 1>laser watch.

0:24:42.760 --> 0:24:46.000
<v Speaker 2>Well, the laser wash three sixties website boasted that, so

0:24:46.080 --> 0:24:48.520
<v Speaker 2>I'm guessing that's higher than the industry standard.

0:24:49.040 --> 0:24:51.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. That feels about right because when you come out,

0:24:51.880 --> 0:24:54.200
<v Speaker 1>it blows some of the water off. But again I'm

0:24:54.200 --> 0:24:56.760
<v Speaker 1>not I don't have the kind of car that I'm

0:24:56.760 --> 0:25:00.280
<v Speaker 1>precious about water spots and all that stuff. I don't

0:25:00.280 --> 0:25:02.560
<v Speaker 1>get the wax, I don't you know. I just want

0:25:02.560 --> 0:25:03.440
<v Speaker 1>to get it pretty clean.

0:25:03.680 --> 0:25:07.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and there's plenty of car washes, like at an

0:25:07.440 --> 0:25:11.000
<v Speaker 2>express exterior model, Like, you're done, go get out of here.

0:25:11.040 --> 0:25:13.000
<v Speaker 2>Maybe you can go use the vacuums if you haven't

0:25:13.080 --> 0:25:17.679
<v Speaker 2>used them beforehand, Right, there are some that there'll be

0:25:17.800 --> 0:25:19.720
<v Speaker 2>like a team of people whose job it is to

0:25:19.720 --> 0:25:23.520
<v Speaker 2>wipe down the water spots that the dryers didn't get off. Yeah,

0:25:23.560 --> 0:25:25.840
<v Speaker 2>and I was reading on a detailer's website like that

0:25:25.880 --> 0:25:29.240
<v Speaker 2>apparently is really bad for your car. Depending on where

0:25:29.240 --> 0:25:32.280
<v Speaker 2>you live, those water spots will dry up and the

0:25:32.320 --> 0:25:35.160
<v Speaker 2>minerals inside stick around and just basically eat through your

0:25:35.160 --> 0:25:37.920
<v Speaker 2>paint job and can go into the body of your

0:25:37.960 --> 0:25:41.080
<v Speaker 2>car to where you're talking about body work. Again, this

0:25:41.200 --> 0:25:44.400
<v Speaker 2>was a detailer's website, but I did see that that's

0:25:44.440 --> 0:25:47.959
<v Speaker 2>still considered a problem even with the touchless car wash,

0:25:48.040 --> 0:25:50.760
<v Speaker 2>that there's as long as there's water spots that can

0:25:51.040 --> 0:25:55.240
<v Speaker 2>that can stick around, the car wash is conceivably harmful

0:25:55.240 --> 0:25:55.879
<v Speaker 2>to your car.

0:25:56.359 --> 0:26:00.440
<v Speaker 1>Wow, it's like the blood of the what was the creature?

0:26:00.480 --> 0:26:04.760
<v Speaker 1>An alien? That's a name, I can't think, Yeah, dripping

0:26:04.800 --> 0:26:05.800
<v Speaker 1>through all the different levels.

0:26:06.000 --> 0:26:08.240
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah, I forgot about that. What a great

0:26:08.280 --> 0:26:09.080
<v Speaker 2>movie was that.

0:26:09.000 --> 0:26:13.080
<v Speaker 1>An Alien's Alien? The very first alien has that sort

0:26:13.080 --> 0:26:15.479
<v Speaker 1>of iconic moment where it's dripping down through all the levels,

0:26:15.960 --> 0:26:16.359
<v Speaker 1>the one.

0:26:16.280 --> 0:26:17.200
<v Speaker 2>With Thanry McBride.

0:26:17.880 --> 0:26:23.679
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so there's one thing I am going to take

0:26:23.720 --> 0:26:25.560
<v Speaker 1>issue with, and I'm basically going to ask you what

0:26:25.600 --> 0:26:28.920
<v Speaker 1>you think the CPCH rate, which is cars per hour

0:26:29.800 --> 0:26:33.320
<v Speaker 1>is how is a setting like it's how fast that

0:26:33.359 --> 0:26:36.879
<v Speaker 1>conveyor moves your car through the car wash? And apparently

0:26:37.040 --> 0:26:39.400
<v Speaker 1>at a car wash, like you make money by how

0:26:39.400 --> 0:26:42.239
<v Speaker 1>many cars you can wash in an hour, and you

0:26:42.280 --> 0:26:44.480
<v Speaker 1>want to get that rate just right because if you

0:26:44.640 --> 0:26:46.919
<v Speaker 1>send people in through fast to squeeze more cars in,

0:26:47.400 --> 0:26:49.200
<v Speaker 1>it's not going to get washed as much, and people

0:26:49.359 --> 0:26:51.480
<v Speaker 1>may want to go through again or complain. So you

0:26:51.480 --> 0:26:55.560
<v Speaker 1>want to strike that perfect balance. But I just don't

0:26:55.560 --> 0:26:57.520
<v Speaker 1>you figure that people are going to come and get

0:26:57.560 --> 0:27:01.119
<v Speaker 1>their car wash no matter what, or are there literally

0:27:01.160 --> 0:27:03.720
<v Speaker 1>people that pull in and they're like, oh, this line's

0:27:03.760 --> 0:27:04.920
<v Speaker 1>too long and they just leave.

0:27:06.000 --> 0:27:09.400
<v Speaker 2>I think the greater risk is somebody who gets their

0:27:09.440 --> 0:27:13.480
<v Speaker 2>car washed and notices that there's like still grime on

0:27:13.720 --> 0:27:19.240
<v Speaker 2>like the quarter panels of their car, and they're like, well,

0:27:19.480 --> 0:27:21.520
<v Speaker 2>I'm not going back to this place. I'm gonna go

0:27:21.560 --> 0:27:24.800
<v Speaker 2>to the one that's two doors down. That's just as

0:27:24.800 --> 0:27:27.960
<v Speaker 2>convenient for me. And see how their washes are. Like,

0:27:28.000 --> 0:27:29.439
<v Speaker 2>I think there's plenty of people who would do that,

0:27:29.480 --> 0:27:32.280
<v Speaker 2>who'd be like, that's not okay, and rather than go

0:27:32.359 --> 0:27:34.600
<v Speaker 2>complain and try to get their five bucks back, they

0:27:34.680 --> 0:27:39.240
<v Speaker 2>just go to a competitor. That's how competitive the industry

0:27:39.320 --> 0:27:42.080
<v Speaker 2>is right now, that you have to get it right essentially,

0:27:42.160 --> 0:27:45.280
<v Speaker 2>even though plenty of them don't get it right. Ideally

0:27:45.359 --> 0:27:47.439
<v Speaker 2>you would get this right. And that calculation of how

0:27:47.480 --> 0:27:51.040
<v Speaker 2>many cars to send through their per hour is extremely

0:27:52.680 --> 0:27:55.240
<v Speaker 2>oh maybe extremely, it's not the word. It's a lot

0:27:55.280 --> 0:27:59.280
<v Speaker 2>more detailed than you would think, because it's not just like, okay,

0:27:59.640 --> 0:28:02.080
<v Speaker 2>if I put X number of cars through per hour,

0:28:02.119 --> 0:28:04.800
<v Speaker 2>can make X number of dollars, and we'll just set

0:28:04.800 --> 0:28:07.199
<v Speaker 2>it to that. You have to take into account the

0:28:07.359 --> 0:28:10.560
<v Speaker 2>quality of your water, like the hardness of your water,

0:28:10.680 --> 0:28:12.560
<v Speaker 2>the softness of your water, how much of your water

0:28:12.600 --> 0:28:16.120
<v Speaker 2>you're recycling, the quality of the detergent you're using, would

0:28:16.160 --> 0:28:19.000
<v Speaker 2>make a big difference. Like all these things that in

0:28:19.040 --> 0:28:22.439
<v Speaker 2>and of themselves give you a good result or a

0:28:22.480 --> 0:28:26.400
<v Speaker 2>poor result are all going to factor or they're all change.

0:28:26.520 --> 0:28:30.719
<v Speaker 2>They're variables of this larger cars per hour calculation that

0:28:30.760 --> 0:28:36.199
<v Speaker 2>you have to make and these these the machinery gets

0:28:36.480 --> 0:28:38.280
<v Speaker 2>kind of slow or gunked up or whatever on a

0:28:38.400 --> 0:28:41.040
<v Speaker 2>daily basis, So you essentially have to stay on top

0:28:41.080 --> 0:28:43.600
<v Speaker 2>of this every day at a good car wash.

0:28:43.640 --> 0:28:46.560
<v Speaker 1>From what I was reading, yeah, okay, I guess I'm

0:28:46.560 --> 0:28:49.440
<v Speaker 1>not explaining myself, because here's what I don't get. What

0:28:49.600 --> 0:28:52.760
<v Speaker 1>is the benefit of being like, oh, I'm gonna set

0:28:52.800 --> 0:28:55.800
<v Speaker 1>it just a little bit faster, Like, I don't think

0:28:55.840 --> 0:28:59.080
<v Speaker 1>setting it a little bit faster would I mean, it

0:28:59.200 --> 0:29:01.760
<v Speaker 1>might get they're quicker, but I don't know if that

0:29:01.760 --> 0:29:05.239
<v Speaker 1>would get more cars through in a day unless at

0:29:05.280 --> 0:29:07.600
<v Speaker 1>the end of the day they're like we're closed, all

0:29:07.680 --> 0:29:10.360
<v Speaker 1>you ten people go home. You know what I'm saying.

0:29:11.640 --> 0:29:12.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

0:29:13.320 --> 0:29:15.600
<v Speaker 2>Well, let me ask you. This is the answer like volume,

0:29:15.720 --> 0:29:19.440
<v Speaker 2>like if you have cars backed up and yeah, yeah, okay, yeah,

0:29:19.440 --> 0:29:21.320
<v Speaker 2>I think it's exactly what you're saying. You're saying if

0:29:21.320 --> 0:29:23.120
<v Speaker 2>the line's too long, somebody will turn around and go

0:29:23.160 --> 0:29:26.960
<v Speaker 2>to a different car wash. Totally totally. Like some of

0:29:27.000 --> 0:29:29.800
<v Speaker 2>those car washes, they'll have lines like out into the

0:29:29.800 --> 0:29:32.560
<v Speaker 2>parking lot outside or out into the road outside sometimes

0:29:32.960 --> 0:29:35.720
<v Speaker 2>and definitely people will go and either come back later

0:29:35.800 --> 0:29:38.280
<v Speaker 2>or go to another one, and at times like that,

0:29:38.760 --> 0:29:41.680
<v Speaker 2>your cars per hour really matters, but you don't want

0:29:41.720 --> 0:29:44.360
<v Speaker 2>to juice it up too much because again, all those

0:29:44.360 --> 0:29:46.760
<v Speaker 2>people that you just got money from might not come

0:29:46.800 --> 0:29:48.440
<v Speaker 2>back because you didn't do a very good job of

0:29:48.480 --> 0:29:49.200
<v Speaker 2>cleaning their car.

0:29:49.640 --> 0:29:51.600
<v Speaker 1>Okay, that makes a little bit of sense to me,

0:29:51.640 --> 0:29:54.080
<v Speaker 1>I guess, and people are probably like, choke, why don't

0:29:54.120 --> 0:29:57.440
<v Speaker 1>you just get it? Maybe I'm from my own personal experience,

0:29:57.480 --> 0:30:02.280
<v Speaker 1>because it's fifty you vacuum first, so you're already in

0:30:02.320 --> 0:30:06.680
<v Speaker 1>there and vacuuming and cleaning your car. Like if the

0:30:06.720 --> 0:30:08.880
<v Speaker 1>line's long, you're just in that line. You're not like

0:30:09.120 --> 0:30:09.960
<v Speaker 1>you can't just leave.

0:30:10.120 --> 0:30:12.600
<v Speaker 2>Oh really, that's terrible. That sounds illegal.

0:30:13.280 --> 0:30:16.400
<v Speaker 1>No, Like, once you go in there and get that

0:30:16.480 --> 0:30:19.800
<v Speaker 1>pre pre vacuum, you have committed to the service of

0:30:19.800 --> 0:30:20.720
<v Speaker 1>getting your car wash.

0:30:20.800 --> 0:30:23.560
<v Speaker 2>Huh. The one we go to has or one of

0:30:23.560 --> 0:30:26.440
<v Speaker 2>the ones we go to has a free vacuum first,

0:30:26.640 --> 0:30:28.760
<v Speaker 2>and it used to be afterward, but then they redid

0:30:28.800 --> 0:30:31.840
<v Speaker 2>the curbing and all that stuff, so now it's first.

0:30:31.960 --> 0:30:32.520
<v Speaker 1>You could leave.

0:30:32.800 --> 0:30:35.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, totally, you just drive right right through.

0:30:37.040 --> 0:30:37.880
<v Speaker 1>I bet people do that.

0:30:38.880 --> 0:30:41.400
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure some people do, for sure, But I think

0:30:41.400 --> 0:30:43.640
<v Speaker 2>also wouldn't you just be like, well, I might as

0:30:43.680 --> 0:30:45.440
<v Speaker 2>well get a car wash while I'm here too.

0:30:46.960 --> 0:30:48.760
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I am here and it's right there.

0:30:48.600 --> 0:30:53.440
<v Speaker 2>Exactly all right. Moving on, Okay, So before we take

0:30:53.480 --> 0:30:55.760
<v Speaker 2>a break, let's talk about touchless technology, because we were

0:30:55.800 --> 0:30:59.440
<v Speaker 2>talking about a specific kind of car wash that gives

0:30:59.440 --> 0:31:03.880
<v Speaker 2>you that exterior express thing that we just walked everybody through.

0:31:04.600 --> 0:31:10.640
<v Speaker 2>That is a in tunnel friction automatic car wash checks

0:31:10.640 --> 0:31:13.040
<v Speaker 2>all those boxes. This is very important. Everybody, like you

0:31:13.040 --> 0:31:14.880
<v Speaker 2>can't go through the rest of your life not knowing

0:31:14.920 --> 0:31:19.760
<v Speaker 2>this terminology. There's another kind that says that friction thing

0:31:20.240 --> 0:31:23.760
<v Speaker 2>I don't know about that we should go with something

0:31:23.760 --> 0:31:27.680
<v Speaker 2>that doesn't use brushes, that nothing actually contacts your car

0:31:27.800 --> 0:31:32.920
<v Speaker 2>except water, chemicals, air, and well that's it.

0:31:33.880 --> 0:31:36.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I guess it's it. I can safely say I've

0:31:36.000 --> 0:31:38.880
<v Speaker 1>never been through one of these, and I guess I'm

0:31:39.640 --> 0:31:42.240
<v Speaker 1>a big dummy because I've never really seen these. I

0:31:42.280 --> 0:31:45.800
<v Speaker 1>haven't either, but I watched a video of it, and

0:31:46.000 --> 0:31:48.840
<v Speaker 1>it is one of the big differences. It's a single bay,

0:31:49.360 --> 0:31:52.200
<v Speaker 1>so you pull your car in and just it's sitting there.

0:31:52.760 --> 0:31:54.800
<v Speaker 1>It's not only conveyor belt that doesn't have a car

0:31:54.840 --> 0:31:56.440
<v Speaker 1>behind you and in front of you while they're in line,

0:31:56.480 --> 0:31:59.480
<v Speaker 1>of course, But yeah, I watched this thing and it's

0:32:00.160 --> 0:32:01.880
<v Speaker 1>nothing such in your car, just spraining the heck out

0:32:01.880 --> 0:32:05.360
<v Speaker 1>of it and blowing things and water and chemicals and

0:32:05.360 --> 0:32:08.280
<v Speaker 1>the whole deal that you described. And I'm sure they

0:32:08.320 --> 0:32:10.120
<v Speaker 1>have them in Atlanta. I just don't know where they are.

0:32:10.760 --> 0:32:13.160
<v Speaker 1>But in the late eighties it was a guy named

0:32:13.440 --> 0:32:17.800
<v Speaker 1>red Lewis, William red Lewis, and he owned a car wash,

0:32:17.840 --> 0:32:20.400
<v Speaker 1>I think more than one, and he was tired of

0:32:20.440 --> 0:32:23.440
<v Speaker 1>paying people for you know, damage mirrors or if they

0:32:23.440 --> 0:32:25.880
<v Speaker 1>break the antenna or you know, anything that can happen

0:32:26.360 --> 0:32:31.280
<v Speaker 1>scratching up your car really bad. So he thought about

0:32:31.320 --> 0:32:34.920
<v Speaker 1>this system. It's the laser wash four thousand is the

0:32:34.960 --> 0:32:39.120
<v Speaker 1>most prominent technology. Now there's the laser wash three sixty

0:32:39.120 --> 0:32:42.360
<v Speaker 1>that you talked a little bit about, but it was

0:32:43.240 --> 0:32:44.959
<v Speaker 1>it sold a lot. I think he sold about eight

0:32:45.080 --> 0:32:48.920
<v Speaker 1>thousand of these. And if you have like a super fancy,

0:32:49.000 --> 0:32:52.280
<v Speaker 1>nice car and you don't want to pay for the

0:32:52.360 --> 0:32:56.640
<v Speaker 1>detailing every time, then I think a lot of people

0:32:56.920 --> 0:32:58.400
<v Speaker 1>like that use these.

0:32:58.920 --> 0:33:04.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And even in Audi's user manual it says it

0:33:04.080 --> 0:33:06.520
<v Speaker 2>is best to use a car wash without revolving bristles

0:33:06.520 --> 0:33:11.000
<v Speaker 2>if possible, essentially like use a either a hand wash

0:33:11.360 --> 0:33:13.880
<v Speaker 2>or a touchless car wash, which again that's different than

0:33:13.880 --> 0:33:17.040
<v Speaker 2>no touch. Touchless again just means there's just water chemicals,

0:33:17.080 --> 0:33:21.320
<v Speaker 2>there's nothing physically touching your car. Right, So, yes, it

0:33:21.400 --> 0:33:24.960
<v Speaker 2>is endorsed. The nicer the car you have, the likelier

0:33:25.040 --> 0:33:27.440
<v Speaker 2>it is you're going to use a laser washer or

0:33:27.440 --> 0:33:30.160
<v Speaker 2>some sort of touchless But yeah, I've never seen one

0:33:30.200 --> 0:33:32.840
<v Speaker 2>before either, and I don't know where to find one.

0:33:32.960 --> 0:33:35.280
<v Speaker 2>But I'm sure they're all over the place too, I

0:33:35.280 --> 0:33:38.400
<v Speaker 2>guess because they's so much smaller than the tunnels. The

0:33:38.400 --> 0:33:40.440
<v Speaker 2>tunnel version, you just drive right past them and don't

0:33:40.440 --> 0:33:41.200
<v Speaker 2>even notice.

0:33:42.200 --> 0:33:43.680
<v Speaker 1>Well, they're not doing their job if they don't have

0:33:43.720 --> 0:33:47.640
<v Speaker 1>one of those spaghetti arm blow up thingies right well, and.

0:33:47.640 --> 0:33:51.000
<v Speaker 2>We should say also, yeah, totally. We should say also though,

0:33:51.040 --> 0:33:55.400
<v Speaker 2>that the reason those brushes are so like hated among

0:33:55.560 --> 0:33:59.360
<v Speaker 2>car wash officionados is not because the brushes themselves are

0:33:59.400 --> 0:34:02.760
<v Speaker 2>the problem. Make them with like microfiber today, like they're

0:34:02.840 --> 0:34:05.160
<v Speaker 2>really soft, like you would at a slow enough f

0:34:05.240 --> 0:34:08.080
<v Speaker 2>rpm you probably enjoy like just being having those spin

0:34:08.160 --> 0:34:15.040
<v Speaker 2>around your naked body, right, But like rocks grime, dirt,

0:34:15.239 --> 0:34:17.840
<v Speaker 2>all that stuff can get stuck to the ends of

0:34:17.880 --> 0:34:20.520
<v Speaker 2>these things just a little bit, tiny, tiny, tiny little bit,

0:34:21.000 --> 0:34:23.680
<v Speaker 2>and when that thing starts spinning at one hundred or

0:34:23.680 --> 0:34:28.279
<v Speaker 2>two hundred rotations per minute, it's going to like tear

0:34:28.360 --> 0:34:31.560
<v Speaker 2>up the finish on your car. It certainly can. And

0:34:31.600 --> 0:34:34.279
<v Speaker 2>so they have to clean brushes constantly all the time,

0:34:34.360 --> 0:34:37.080
<v Speaker 2>every day, or a good car wash will or else

0:34:37.320 --> 0:34:40.000
<v Speaker 2>you're gonna have customers complaining that you just scratch the

0:34:40.000 --> 0:34:42.600
<v Speaker 2>finish on their car. And so people who are into

0:34:42.600 --> 0:34:44.600
<v Speaker 2>touchless are like, let's just avoid the whole thing and

0:34:44.800 --> 0:34:45.960
<v Speaker 2>don't use bristles at all.

0:34:46.640 --> 0:34:50.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I do understand mine is not the only perspective.

0:34:50.360 --> 0:34:52.960
<v Speaker 1>And just because I don't get all bent out of

0:34:53.000 --> 0:34:56.440
<v Speaker 1>shape about a scratch or two on my car, I

0:34:56.480 --> 0:34:58.880
<v Speaker 1>know that people there are people that are really, really,

0:35:00.480 --> 0:35:03.760
<v Speaker 1>really really into their cars and don't want any anything

0:35:03.840 --> 0:35:05.640
<v Speaker 1>like that to ever happen to their little baby.

0:35:05.920 --> 0:35:09.879
<v Speaker 2>Yes, for sure, Can we take a break, I think so.

0:35:10.360 --> 0:35:12.960
<v Speaker 1>All right, we'll be right back and we'll finish up

0:35:12.960 --> 0:35:38.239
<v Speaker 1>with more car wash fitness. All right, So most of

0:35:38.239 --> 0:35:40.400
<v Speaker 1>the car washes we've been talking about, or you know,

0:35:40.440 --> 0:35:43.480
<v Speaker 1>the fully automated kind you get in, you go, you

0:35:43.600 --> 0:35:46.160
<v Speaker 1>sometimes you stand. I mean I stay in my car

0:35:46.200 --> 0:35:48.480
<v Speaker 1>because that's what kind of car wash. Sometimes you will

0:35:48.480 --> 0:35:50.680
<v Speaker 1>get out though still in your car will just be

0:35:50.680 --> 0:35:54.160
<v Speaker 1>ghost driven. And I mentioned those little windows they started

0:35:54.160 --> 0:35:56.719
<v Speaker 1>putting windows in. We're like, hey, some people like to

0:35:56.760 --> 0:36:00.520
<v Speaker 1>follow Kids certainly love to walk along see their car washed.

0:36:00.600 --> 0:36:04.480
<v Speaker 1>People that love their cars like their own children might

0:36:04.520 --> 0:36:06.840
<v Speaker 1>want to follow along and watch their car get washed.

0:36:07.880 --> 0:36:15.200
<v Speaker 1>They brought a certain internesting value, a certain entertainment value

0:36:15.239 --> 0:36:19.000
<v Speaker 1>to it by opening up those windows and keeping people

0:36:19.239 --> 0:36:23.719
<v Speaker 1>occupied with the ones you have to sit in. They

0:36:23.760 --> 0:36:26.759
<v Speaker 1>started putting in, you know, flashy lights and things like that,

0:36:26.880 --> 0:36:28.759
<v Speaker 1>Like that has nothing to do with getting your car

0:36:28.840 --> 0:36:33.000
<v Speaker 1>clean or operating that computer system. It's like, hey, you're

0:36:33.040 --> 0:36:35.719
<v Speaker 1>in your car. You may have claustrophobia, you may want

0:36:35.719 --> 0:36:38.760
<v Speaker 1>to freak out, so here's some fun things to distract.

0:36:38.320 --> 0:36:41.320
<v Speaker 2>You, right, And apparently that doesn't really work for people

0:36:41.360 --> 0:36:45.200
<v Speaker 2>with like severe claustrophobia who's spiled for some reason take

0:36:45.239 --> 0:36:47.800
<v Speaker 2>their cars through the car wash. And I was reading

0:36:47.840 --> 0:36:52.680
<v Speaker 2>like an industry website blog post on customers with claustrophobia.

0:36:52.719 --> 0:36:55.200
<v Speaker 2>It was very heartwarming. They were like, no matter what like,

0:36:55.320 --> 0:36:58.279
<v Speaker 2>be patient with these people they're experiencing, like essentially a

0:36:58.280 --> 0:37:01.399
<v Speaker 2>mental breakdown right now if they're panic. But it can

0:37:01.480 --> 0:37:05.279
<v Speaker 2>be a problem at car washes when people panic in

0:37:05.360 --> 0:37:08.360
<v Speaker 2>their car because they become close to claustrophobic in the

0:37:08.400 --> 0:37:11.080
<v Speaker 2>tunnel and they try to get out. People have died

0:37:11.200 --> 0:37:16.040
<v Speaker 2>getting pinned, not necessarily from claustrophobia, but for misadventure, essentially

0:37:16.040 --> 0:37:20.279
<v Speaker 2>getting pinned between their car and the machinery, and like

0:37:20.520 --> 0:37:22.880
<v Speaker 2>it's dangerous to do that. You do not want to

0:37:22.920 --> 0:37:25.040
<v Speaker 2>get out. It's not just a matter of getting wet,

0:37:25.360 --> 0:37:28.600
<v Speaker 2>Like you can die in a car wash and if

0:37:28.600 --> 0:37:31.200
<v Speaker 2>you get out at the wrong place. So they were

0:37:31.239 --> 0:37:33.400
<v Speaker 2>basically saying, like, if a customer ever comes up to

0:37:33.440 --> 0:37:35.919
<v Speaker 2>you and they're acting anxious or nervous and they ask

0:37:36.080 --> 0:37:39.120
<v Speaker 2>you or one of your employees to drive their car

0:37:39.200 --> 0:37:41.719
<v Speaker 2>through the car wash for them, just say yes, say sure,

0:37:41.760 --> 0:37:44.040
<v Speaker 2>of course, and do it for him, because they probably

0:37:44.120 --> 0:37:47.560
<v Speaker 2>have claustrophobia and they might freak out, like in the tunnel.

0:37:47.840 --> 0:37:51.040
<v Speaker 2>And they also started opening tunnels up a lot of

0:37:51.080 --> 0:37:55.840
<v Speaker 2>the machinery has like stuff that's kind of on the

0:37:55.960 --> 0:37:58.839
<v Speaker 2>sides or up higher a little more out of sight.

0:37:59.280 --> 0:38:02.680
<v Speaker 2>But it's really open. They'll put in windows to let

0:38:02.719 --> 0:38:05.959
<v Speaker 2>an outside light into the tunnel. They've tried a bunch

0:38:05.960 --> 0:38:08.160
<v Speaker 2>of stuff, but apparently it still happens.

0:38:09.280 --> 0:38:12.920
<v Speaker 1>I definitely remember when I was a kid, car washes

0:38:13.040 --> 0:38:18.720
<v Speaker 1>were much more claustrophobic feeling. I remember they were darker,

0:38:18.760 --> 0:38:21.600
<v Speaker 1>and I remember those they were the big roller brushes

0:38:21.680 --> 0:38:24.520
<v Speaker 1>that would basically like all come at you at once,

0:38:25.760 --> 0:38:27.680
<v Speaker 1>and it's just not like that now. So I definitely

0:38:27.719 --> 0:38:32.000
<v Speaker 1>can remember the difference. I did mention car wash subscriptions

0:38:32.520 --> 0:38:36.520
<v Speaker 1>being where all the dough is and I've never bought

0:38:36.520 --> 0:38:38.800
<v Speaker 1>one because I'm one of those people. It's like it sounds,

0:38:38.800 --> 0:38:40.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, they're trying to sucker me into something. If

0:38:40.880 --> 0:38:43.839
<v Speaker 1>you get your car washed. More like if you go

0:38:44.280 --> 0:38:48.000
<v Speaker 1>through those things like once a week, then you're making money,

0:38:48.160 --> 0:38:50.160
<v Speaker 1>not making money, but you know what I mean. Like

0:38:50.200 --> 0:38:51.920
<v Speaker 1>I think you have to go through like three times

0:38:51.920 --> 0:38:54.440
<v Speaker 1>in a month to break even or maybe even get

0:38:54.480 --> 0:38:56.960
<v Speaker 1>ahead a little bit on most of these services. So

0:38:57.160 --> 0:39:00.120
<v Speaker 1>it's a pretty good deal. Actually, I don't know if

0:39:00.120 --> 0:39:01.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm still going to do it, because I don't know

0:39:01.239 --> 0:39:04.200
<v Speaker 1>if I would commit to going once a week. Probably not.

0:39:04.400 --> 0:39:07.520
<v Speaker 1>But that's just like Dave said in the article, you

0:39:07.520 --> 0:39:11.160
<v Speaker 1>can basically print money if you have a healthy subscription

0:39:11.239 --> 0:39:13.040
<v Speaker 1>service at your franchise.

0:39:13.320 --> 0:39:16.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because, like, let's say somebody does come through. Let's

0:39:16.480 --> 0:39:20.000
<v Speaker 2>say you sell subscriptions for twenty five bucks and you

0:39:20.080 --> 0:39:22.279
<v Speaker 2>sell regular car washes for ten bucks to try to

0:39:22.360 --> 0:39:25.840
<v Speaker 2>encourage people to go with the subscription. Right, yep, somebody

0:39:26.200 --> 0:39:29.040
<v Speaker 2>washes their car three times, they've actually come out ahead.

0:39:29.320 --> 0:39:31.520
<v Speaker 2>But there's plenty of people like you who get it

0:39:32.120 --> 0:39:34.719
<v Speaker 2>and just do it that one time and don't find

0:39:34.760 --> 0:39:37.640
<v Speaker 2>time to come back in that month, And you're subsidizing

0:39:37.760 --> 0:39:41.120
<v Speaker 2>or offsetting all the people who make sure they come

0:39:41.160 --> 0:39:44.759
<v Speaker 2>back like five times that month. And even still what

0:39:44.840 --> 0:39:47.040
<v Speaker 2>the car washes used to cost, which is like five

0:39:47.080 --> 0:39:50.640
<v Speaker 2>bucks or something before the subscription model, you're still making

0:39:50.760 --> 0:39:53.919
<v Speaker 2>way more than you were selling individual car washes from

0:39:53.920 --> 0:39:57.360
<v Speaker 2>the subscription. And it's apparently very easy to talk somebody

0:39:57.440 --> 0:39:59.640
<v Speaker 2>into it. You just have to say, come on like

0:39:59.680 --> 0:40:03.399
<v Speaker 2>a bunch, right, and they cave every time. And this

0:40:03.440 --> 0:40:07.359
<v Speaker 2>subscription model is so lucrative that it has created a

0:40:07.560 --> 0:40:11.000
<v Speaker 2>boom in the car wash industry in the United States

0:40:11.000 --> 0:40:12.120
<v Speaker 2>and abroad. I take it.

0:40:12.880 --> 0:40:15.439
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because equity firms are like oh wait, you can

0:40:16.000 --> 0:40:18.200
<v Speaker 1>put in this much money and make that much that quickly.

0:40:19.040 --> 0:40:21.760
<v Speaker 1>There are more than sixty thousand car washes in America

0:40:22.120 --> 0:40:26.840
<v Speaker 1>according to Bloomberg News, that is going to be double.

0:40:27.560 --> 0:40:29.480
<v Speaker 1>Like they're talking up to one hundred and twenty thousand

0:40:29.480 --> 0:40:32.600
<v Speaker 1>car washes in the next eight years. Wait, what year

0:40:32.640 --> 0:40:38.120
<v Speaker 1>is it? Six years? Yeah, by twenty thirty. And they've

0:40:38.280 --> 0:40:41.319
<v Speaker 1>found out this little stat. More car washes have been

0:40:41.320 --> 0:40:45.200
<v Speaker 1>built in the last decade than since nineteen forty six

0:40:45.200 --> 0:40:47.560
<v Speaker 1>when they started doing this to begin with. Yeah, combined

0:40:47.680 --> 0:40:50.919
<v Speaker 1>and that nuts, that is nuts. But you know, they're

0:40:50.960 --> 0:40:52.840
<v Speaker 1>basically like a you can make like a million and

0:40:52.880 --> 0:40:55.280
<v Speaker 1>a half bucks in revenue if you have a pretty

0:40:55.440 --> 0:41:01.400
<v Speaker 1>average subscription based car service. And twenty I think the

0:41:01.640 --> 0:41:04.840
<v Speaker 1>most recent stat da've had was twenty twenty one. Only

0:41:04.880 --> 0:41:07.719
<v Speaker 1>twenty one percent of people probably even less now are

0:41:07.800 --> 0:41:10.239
<v Speaker 1>washing their own car, compared to fifty percent in the

0:41:10.239 --> 0:41:13.319
<v Speaker 1>mid nineties. So like, people are using these things and

0:41:13.320 --> 0:41:14.480
<v Speaker 1>they're making a ton of money.

0:41:14.719 --> 0:41:18.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they are. So these things are proliferating so much

0:41:18.239 --> 0:41:23.160
<v Speaker 2>that some towns are actually putting moratoriums on their construction.

0:41:23.560 --> 0:41:25.879
<v Speaker 2>They're like, we got enough, we got five we don't

0:41:25.920 --> 0:41:29.480
<v Speaker 2>need anymore. There's only five thousand people in the whole town,

0:41:29.920 --> 0:41:32.279
<v Speaker 2>and these companies are pushing back. In some cases they're

0:41:32.320 --> 0:41:34.800
<v Speaker 2>suing the towns or whatever, which seems shoddy, like the

0:41:34.840 --> 0:41:36.560
<v Speaker 2>towns should be able to say no, we don't want

0:41:36.600 --> 0:41:40.719
<v Speaker 2>you in there. But the thing that the towns are

0:41:40.719 --> 0:41:45.319
<v Speaker 2>worried about is number one, these things employ almost no one, right,

0:41:45.400 --> 0:41:48.360
<v Speaker 2>so maybe they bring two three jobs to town that

0:41:48.400 --> 0:41:52.600
<v Speaker 2>weren't there before. They pay very little in taxes. I'm

0:41:52.600 --> 0:41:54.720
<v Speaker 2>not sure how, but they figured out the tax based stuff.

0:41:54.719 --> 0:41:58.399
<v Speaker 2>They're just not paying a lot in taxes, and they're

0:41:58.400 --> 0:42:01.200
<v Speaker 2>not giving back to local economy. They're sucking money out

0:42:01.200 --> 0:42:04.440
<v Speaker 2>of the local economy into the corporations and equity funds

0:42:04.440 --> 0:42:08.000
<v Speaker 2>that own these car washes, and they're enriching they're investors.

0:42:08.040 --> 0:42:11.279
<v Speaker 2>They're not having any positive impact on the economy there.

0:42:11.520 --> 0:42:14.879
<v Speaker 2>And then on top of that, it's getting so close

0:42:14.920 --> 0:42:18.040
<v Speaker 2>to oversaturation or has reached that in some places that

0:42:18.160 --> 0:42:20.319
<v Speaker 2>very soon these things are going to start being abandoned

0:42:20.520 --> 0:42:22.960
<v Speaker 2>and it's going to end up just like malls, where

0:42:23.320 --> 0:42:25.160
<v Speaker 2>you've overbuilt and now all of a sudden you have

0:42:25.200 --> 0:42:27.239
<v Speaker 2>these big, hulking buildings that you can't figure out what

0:42:27.280 --> 0:42:29.960
<v Speaker 2>to do with the same thing's going to happen with

0:42:30.080 --> 0:42:32.400
<v Speaker 2>a car wash. What do you do with an abandoned

0:42:32.440 --> 0:42:36.040
<v Speaker 2>car wash building, aside from demolishing it and starting over.

0:42:37.400 --> 0:42:39.839
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean you're not. You're gonna be shooting Chuck

0:42:39.880 --> 0:42:42.960
<v Speaker 1>Norris movies and zombie movies in a car wash like

0:42:43.000 --> 0:42:44.200
<v Speaker 1>you can an abandoned all.

0:42:44.400 --> 0:42:47.839
<v Speaker 2>Right, exactly? Oh, yeah, that was good stuff. Invasion USA, right,

0:42:48.400 --> 0:42:51.759
<v Speaker 2>Invasion USA? And was that Day of the Dead in

0:42:51.760 --> 0:42:52.160
<v Speaker 2>the mall?

0:42:53.120 --> 0:42:54.600
<v Speaker 1>Oh, I don't know, I'll just sort of do that

0:42:54.640 --> 0:42:57.520
<v Speaker 1>in there. I'm sure. I mean, not of the comment

0:42:57.640 --> 0:43:01.360
<v Speaker 1>had a mall sequence. There's been plenty of Yeah, So

0:43:01.680 --> 0:43:03.799
<v Speaker 1>as far as you know, people washing their car at

0:43:03.800 --> 0:43:07.520
<v Speaker 1>home down to probably less than twenty percent. Now, that's

0:43:07.520 --> 0:43:10.960
<v Speaker 1>what I grew up doing. The old routine in the

0:43:11.040 --> 0:43:15.320
<v Speaker 1>nineteen seventies and eighties when the environment was a complete afterthought,

0:43:15.320 --> 0:43:18.120
<v Speaker 1>when you would just turn on the hose. You didn't

0:43:18.120 --> 0:43:20.319
<v Speaker 1>even have the sprayer. You would just throw the hose

0:43:20.360 --> 0:43:22.279
<v Speaker 1>down on the ground and it would just run water

0:43:22.320 --> 0:43:24.400
<v Speaker 1>all over the driveway and you would get out your

0:43:24.920 --> 0:43:28.040
<v Speaker 1>bucket and just wash your car and rinse it. I

0:43:28.080 --> 0:43:30.720
<v Speaker 1>did that like every other dumb kid in the nineteen eighties.

0:43:31.000 --> 0:43:34.359
<v Speaker 1>But boy, that's a waste of water. Even if you're

0:43:34.480 --> 0:43:37.760
<v Speaker 1>using and I don't have the exact percentage of sprayer

0:43:37.840 --> 0:43:39.879
<v Speaker 1>versus none. Obviously the sprayer is going to make sure

0:43:39.920 --> 0:43:43.560
<v Speaker 1>water's not moving unless you're pulling that trigger. But you're

0:43:43.760 --> 0:43:46.680
<v Speaker 1>using more water by a large margin, I believe sixty

0:43:46.719 --> 0:43:49.880
<v Speaker 1>percent more than a car washed does to wash your car,

0:43:50.800 --> 0:43:54.080
<v Speaker 1>and then all of that water, all of that grime

0:43:54.239 --> 0:43:59.080
<v Speaker 1>and the you know, engine residue and oils and exhaust

0:43:59.120 --> 0:44:01.000
<v Speaker 1>and just you know, your washing car stuff off of

0:44:01.040 --> 0:44:04.440
<v Speaker 1>your car that's going down into the storm sewer that

0:44:04.640 --> 0:44:08.960
<v Speaker 1>isn't treated, that's just put right in the waterways. Your

0:44:09.040 --> 0:44:11.920
<v Speaker 1>car wash doesn't do that. They have to take care

0:44:11.920 --> 0:44:13.839
<v Speaker 1>of their water. They can't put it down. A lot

0:44:13.880 --> 0:44:17.200
<v Speaker 1>of them reuse it, like at least a few times,

0:44:17.640 --> 0:44:19.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, they clean it and use that gray water.

0:44:20.040 --> 0:44:23.240
<v Speaker 1>I think in California they have to recycle sixty percent

0:44:23.280 --> 0:44:26.120
<v Speaker 1>of their wash in rinse water. But all of them

0:44:26.200 --> 0:44:28.239
<v Speaker 1>have to put it. They can't put it down a

0:44:28.239 --> 0:44:29.799
<v Speaker 1>storm drain. They have to put it in a sewer

0:44:29.880 --> 0:44:30.760
<v Speaker 1>drain where it's treated.

0:44:31.080 --> 0:44:34.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and so those requirements like California's laws have kind

0:44:34.719 --> 0:44:38.879
<v Speaker 2>of driven the industry to invent like more and more

0:44:38.920 --> 0:44:42.399
<v Speaker 2>efficient systems. They use less and less water and are

0:44:42.440 --> 0:44:45.319
<v Speaker 2>able to reclaim more and more water for reuse. Right,

0:44:45.360 --> 0:44:48.160
<v Speaker 2>so they've got it down to like a really good

0:44:49.600 --> 0:44:54.160
<v Speaker 2>car wash can use something like I think eight to

0:44:54.320 --> 0:44:56.120
<v Speaker 2>seventy gallons per car.

0:44:57.160 --> 0:44:58.080
<v Speaker 1>That's a lot of water.

0:44:58.160 --> 0:45:00.960
<v Speaker 2>Still yeah, but still though I looked at to twenty

0:45:01.040 --> 0:45:03.600
<v Speaker 2>eleven How Stuff Works article and they said three hundred

0:45:03.600 --> 0:45:05.120
<v Speaker 2>to four hundred gallons per ye.

0:45:05.320 --> 0:45:08.319
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, no, no, I mean it's a huge improvement. But

0:45:08.800 --> 0:45:13.080
<v Speaker 1>also and then Dave makes a good point here, like also,

0:45:13.719 --> 0:45:16.000
<v Speaker 1>just be wary of any kind of weird advertising that

0:45:16.080 --> 0:45:19.080
<v Speaker 1>you see in terms of being eco friendly, because these

0:45:19.160 --> 0:45:21.759
<v Speaker 1>days you can pretty much say what you want. So

0:45:21.800 --> 0:45:24.560
<v Speaker 1>if you see a car wash advertising, you know, ask

0:45:24.640 --> 0:45:27.040
<v Speaker 1>him about it. Maybe. But I'm not saying it's all fraudulent,

0:45:27.440 --> 0:45:29.200
<v Speaker 1>but you will see a lot of car washes that

0:45:30.040 --> 0:45:34.239
<v Speaker 1>throw words like, you know, eco friendly or you know,

0:45:34.239 --> 0:45:36.799
<v Speaker 1>there's just a lot of greenwashing no pun intended, that's

0:45:36.840 --> 0:45:39.799
<v Speaker 1>going on, right with what they're using to wash your

0:45:39.800 --> 0:45:41.239
<v Speaker 1>car and how little water they're using.

0:45:41.560 --> 0:45:43.520
<v Speaker 2>And I should say, I get your point, Like if

0:45:43.560 --> 0:45:46.520
<v Speaker 2>we're about to start fighting resource conflicts over water, we

0:45:46.560 --> 0:45:48.719
<v Speaker 2>should probably stop using it to wash our cars at

0:45:48.760 --> 0:45:49.480
<v Speaker 2>car washes.

0:45:50.800 --> 0:45:53.920
<v Speaker 1>Eventually we'll just have dirty car I mean, look what

0:45:54.920 --> 0:45:57.840
<v Speaker 1>I guess in Mad Max it was gasoline. But any

0:45:57.960 --> 0:46:00.920
<v Speaker 1>water shortage movie, all the cars are dirty, right, So

0:46:01.120 --> 0:46:02.600
<v Speaker 1>are an ax under pain movie.

0:46:02.960 --> 0:46:05.240
<v Speaker 2>So one of the is that like one of his things.

0:46:05.719 --> 0:46:08.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah he didn't, and he's like, every car is clean

0:46:08.360 --> 0:46:10.560
<v Speaker 1>and every street is wet, and he's like, not in

0:46:10.560 --> 0:46:13.000
<v Speaker 1>my movies. I got dry streets and dirty cars.

0:46:13.040 --> 0:46:18.600
<v Speaker 2>Nice. So you mentioned sales gimmicks. That's the same with

0:46:18.680 --> 0:46:22.839
<v Speaker 2>add ons to consumer reports said, the wax, the ceilings,

0:46:23.000 --> 0:46:26.400
<v Speaker 2>the wheel cleaning, undercarriage cleaning. Unless you have like salt

0:46:26.400 --> 0:46:29.200
<v Speaker 2>crusted on your undercarriage, it's not worth us. It's not

0:46:29.200 --> 0:46:29.600
<v Speaker 2>worth the.

0:46:29.560 --> 0:46:32.839
<v Speaker 1>Money I always just had. I think both of us

0:46:32.840 --> 0:46:36.799
<v Speaker 1>are a little bit like uh uh huh, yeah, no thanks, right,

0:46:37.719 --> 0:46:39.880
<v Speaker 1>So I've never gotten that stuff, and it always seemed

0:46:39.880 --> 0:46:42.279
<v Speaker 1>like a bit of a sucker seal. But yeah, you know,

0:46:42.680 --> 0:46:45.200
<v Speaker 1>any kind of upsell. I'm always a little side eyed

0:46:45.239 --> 0:46:48.880
<v Speaker 1>at what's your angle, pal, Yeah, more money for you,

0:46:50.000 --> 0:46:51.520
<v Speaker 1>cleaner car for me, I don't think so.

0:46:51.800 --> 0:46:55.360
<v Speaker 2>Yep, this is it for the episode. But we cannot

0:46:55.400 --> 0:47:00.480
<v Speaker 2>go through this episode without mentioning the great movie car Wash,

0:47:00.520 --> 0:47:02.279
<v Speaker 2>which that's it for me. I mean we can just

0:47:02.320 --> 0:47:05.200
<v Speaker 2>mention it and then also breaking bad to car Washed,

0:47:05.640 --> 0:47:10.759
<v Speaker 2>two very famous car washes. Oh yeah, okay, here we

0:47:10.800 --> 0:47:13.480
<v Speaker 2>did it. If you want to know more about car washes,

0:47:13.520 --> 0:47:15.359
<v Speaker 2>go get your car washed and see what you think.

0:47:15.840 --> 0:47:18.280
<v Speaker 2>And since I said that it's time for listener mail.

0:47:21.239 --> 0:47:23.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna call this first thing I just looked at

0:47:23.040 --> 0:47:26.600
<v Speaker 1>when I picked up my phone. Hey guys, longtime UK listener,

0:47:26.640 --> 0:47:28.080
<v Speaker 1>Wanting to add a fact that you mess. In your

0:47:28.120 --> 0:47:31.600
<v Speaker 1>dopamine episode. You mentioned the role of genetics and addiction,

0:47:31.680 --> 0:47:34.920
<v Speaker 1>which can often be taken as denoting an addictive personality.

0:47:35.400 --> 0:47:39.719
<v Speaker 1>Whilst people's personalities may make them more susceptible to peer pressure, etc.

0:47:40.080 --> 0:47:44.200
<v Speaker 1>Personality has no genetic influence in addiction, as it isn't

0:47:44.200 --> 0:47:47.920
<v Speaker 1>biologically inherited. If someone is genetically susceptible to addiction, this

0:47:47.960 --> 0:47:51.200
<v Speaker 1>can mean they have more receptors in their synaptic clefts

0:47:52.239 --> 0:47:55.840
<v Speaker 1>or less enzymes, breaking down access in transmitters, leading to

0:47:55.880 --> 0:47:59.319
<v Speaker 1>heightened effects of substances, leading to more dopamine released. I

0:47:59.320 --> 0:48:01.400
<v Speaker 1>thought you guys might find this interesting, always happy to

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<v Speaker 1>have done random knowledge on and suspecting victims at any opportunity.

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<v Speaker 1>That is from Steve Guercio.

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<v Speaker 2>Great name, Steve, We're gonna call him Steve G.

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<v Speaker 1>Steve G.

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<v Speaker 2>If you want to be like Steve G and throw

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<v Speaker 2>out some information that we walked right past or maybe

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<v Speaker 2>even got wrong. We love hearing that kind of stuff.

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