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<v Speaker 1>You're the Fantasy Sports Radio Network alongside Frankie Staffle. I

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<v Speaker 1>am Greg Susman. Gregg A Happy Friday. You're gonna talk

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<v Speaker 1>starting pitchers today. I mean it's gonna be a long,

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<v Speaker 1>grueling process, gonna start the process of talking about starting pitching.

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<v Speaker 1>It's probably gonna be like a three part series here,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe even longer, who knows, but very excited, Greg, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it should be fun. Are you doing? How do you

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<v Speaker 1>sleep last night? That is great that it had been

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<v Speaker 1>to me. Oh I slept great? Did you yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>told you a little bit. That's out of my couch.

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<v Speaker 1>Woke up in the middle of the night. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>slept her, I slept okay, Um, I like four forty two,

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<v Speaker 1>specifically two. I woke up like the clock and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just like, I am awake now, I don't I'm not comfortable.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like gross, weird night Fromania. He's wearing the

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<v Speaker 1>male ugs though, Yeah, that's definitely happy. Yea. The snow

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<v Speaker 1>on the ground here in New York. Honestly, dude, I

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<v Speaker 1>walk into freaking blizz this morning. I'm sorry. You get

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<v Speaker 1>up later. Yeah, it was it really a blizzard, Greg not, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was snowing. It was snow. I didn't like

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<v Speaker 1>wearing because it was every excuse to get his male

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<v Speaker 1>uggs on. I'm not upset. I'm not shame by it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's great. I mean, there's a lot of snow on

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<v Speaker 1>the ground, I be fair, not really there is probably

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<v Speaker 1>not even dude, I'm telling you, I'm not making that up.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you're making it all right, that's what you think.

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<v Speaker 1>It's fine. On the program today is Frank said, staring

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<v Speaker 1>pictures right into it, top tier, right into it. We're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be joined from picture List. From at picture List,

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<v Speaker 1>it's our guy, Nick Polk. Nick, welcome to program. What

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<v Speaker 1>is happening? Thanks so much for having me today. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>really excited to be here. Have you enjoyed our opening

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<v Speaker 1>of It was great? You know I got to peer

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<v Speaker 1>out my window and see some snow today. It was

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<v Speaker 1>like a blizzard. I have to say, if it's anything,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a blizzard here. Nick. Thank you. I don't you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a big fan of picture list our guy Nick

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<v Speaker 1>Pollock on Twitter, but already starting off on the wrong

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<v Speaker 1>foot here. He's right, Nick, let's ask you Nick night,

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<v Speaker 1>how did you? I had a fantastic sleep. That's good.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it makes really it makes one of us. Nick,

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<v Speaker 1>That's fine. A right? Uh? You said all the show today.

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<v Speaker 1>We're to dive into starting pictures over the next hour,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're the guy to do what you follow him

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<v Speaker 1>at picture List and you're doing a fantastic job breaking

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<v Speaker 1>all of this down and hopefully you can help us, um,

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<v Speaker 1>you can help us kind of decide things as we

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<v Speaker 1>debate all of these starting pictures. We've gone through every

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<v Speaker 1>single hit or category and never starting pitchers. We're getting

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<v Speaker 1>relievers of course next week, we assume the starting pitchers

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<v Speaker 1>gonna take us a while to get to UM, so

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<v Speaker 1>we don't really have a limit on it per se,

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<v Speaker 1>but we're gonna do the best we can. Sounds great,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean this is what I do. This is uh

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<v Speaker 1>I talked starting pitching every single night, every single doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>get boring, never never, There's always something to talk about,

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<v Speaker 1>like it's never ending, right, So like again we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>talk about some of the top tier guys and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we're splitting hairs with some of these guys obviously, but

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<v Speaker 1>but then we're not. But look, it's an interesting time, right,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I tweeted out, there's like an awesome amount of

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<v Speaker 1>like names that are just going today, like in spring training,

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<v Speaker 1>like super intriguing dudes from you know, let's see what

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<v Speaker 1>Madison Bumgunna does this time around, because he got blasted

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<v Speaker 1>his first time around, and he's a hot topic of conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, he slept super far in my uh my

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<v Speaker 1>great Fantasy Baseball mutation. But they're like Michael Panietz on

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<v Speaker 1>the Mount today, like Nick Kingham, John Gray, Aaron Sanchez,

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<v Speaker 1>like Justice Sheffield. There is an infinite amount going on

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<v Speaker 1>right now in terms of starting pitching both you know,

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<v Speaker 1>for fantasy baseball and then in spring training. So look,

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<v Speaker 1>it's never ending. So that's why that's why Nick is

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<v Speaker 1>able to talk about it every single night. Greag actually

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<v Speaker 1>actually this morning and before every single spring training day,

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<v Speaker 1>I tweet out the pictures that are gonna be starting

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<v Speaker 1>for the day, and that's what we should be looking for,

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<v Speaker 1>at least the ones that we can see on TV. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>So like today, Nick Kingham law time was apparently ninety four,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's really cool because last year he was topping

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<v Speaker 1>out in ninety nine and see him sitting there, Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>that can nearly exciting me. Of Sheffield going today, we

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<v Speaker 1>have Kintana hopefully is that two. We have engine Ru

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe that change up is back again. Robbie raised there,

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe the curveballs were working. They'll be great. There's so

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<v Speaker 1>much stuff to talk about and it's just spring training,

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<v Speaker 1>so I never get bored. This is starting pitching, the

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<v Speaker 1>best position in fantasy baseball and the best fantasy sport.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm ready to do this if it's the best

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<v Speaker 1>position in fantasy baseball and in any fantasy sport. In YadA, YadA, YadA.

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<v Speaker 1>Max is the best picture in fantasy baseball, he's the

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<v Speaker 1>best picture in real life baseball. NFBC. He's going off

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<v Speaker 1>the board number four. Can you make an argument that

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<v Speaker 1>he should go off the board number one? No? I mean, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm someone who preaches this A lot is wait

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<v Speaker 1>a ton on starting pitching. I think I think entering

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand twenty, we're gonna be talking about it being

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<v Speaker 1>the year of starting pitching depth next year because we're

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<v Speaker 1>not realizing how much stuff there is this year. I

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<v Speaker 1>personally just gonna go for paths. That's why I did

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<v Speaker 1>the other great fantacy based moremitational. I think I got

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<v Speaker 1>Subbarino in the third round and then waited until Zach

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<v Speaker 1>Wheeler at pick for my second guy, and I will

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<v Speaker 1>not be going after shows. I don't think there's that

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<v Speaker 1>necessity that a lot of people think there are. There

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<v Speaker 1>are more, uh, there's more talent in the pool than

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<v Speaker 1>uh than that. You don't need to go off to shows.

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<v Speaker 1>Number one, Why not go for trout and bets. Your

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<v Speaker 1>offense is gonna be so good just with those guys.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't need shows or to anchor that staff. Look,

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<v Speaker 1>I agree with you. Look you can't make the argument, Greig.

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<v Speaker 1>I know he just wanted to be baseball. He should

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<v Speaker 1>be going, you know, in the middle of the first round.

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<v Speaker 1>I think his ADP is adequate right now, maybe even

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<v Speaker 1>a little high. But you know, really, once you get

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<v Speaker 1>Trout and Bets off the board, I think you can

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<v Speaker 1>make an argument for like and different guys that should

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<v Speaker 1>go between like three and twelve. You can make the

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<v Speaker 1>argument for any one of those guys, and I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think that you get killed for it. Like again, you

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<v Speaker 1>can make an argument for Jose Ramirez at three, Yellow

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<v Speaker 1>Akunya Max Sers, or if you really wanted to Nolan Arronado,

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<v Speaker 1>like you could. There's a lot of different ways you

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<v Speaker 1>could go once those top two guys off board. But

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<v Speaker 1>I agree Max Chers, there should not be in that conversation,

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<v Speaker 1>like even in points leagues where I think pitching is

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<v Speaker 1>even more important, especially like in my league's like the

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<v Speaker 1>top starting pitchers outscored the top hitters. I mean we

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<v Speaker 1>should probably like bring that range closer, Like starting pitcher

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<v Speaker 1>shouldn't be outscoring hitters as much as they are. But

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<v Speaker 1>even in that like format and head to head points,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm still taking trout and bets over maxers tend ultimately,

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<v Speaker 1>I tend to agree, and you know I said to

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<v Speaker 1>ask the question. Then we get to a more fun topic,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's Chris Sale versus Jacob de Graman Frank you,

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<v Speaker 1>in all of your drafts, you've spoken about this a

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<v Speaker 1>lot because you were a slaved business position scarce today

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<v Speaker 1>that you were drafting an outfielder and you're drafting your

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<v Speaker 1>starting pitcher and you pulled the starting pitchers up the

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<v Speaker 1>board it than take a position ultimately that you did

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<v Speaker 1>not want to and it was from your first Best

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<v Speaker 1>Ball draft all the way through now where you have

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<v Speaker 1>hold up Jacob Degram. You've pulled up Chris Sale. We

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<v Speaker 1>are in March now, this is Fantasy Baseball draft month.

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<v Speaker 1>We're in March. Officially you have to choose one right

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<v Speaker 1>now to draft. Who would be Chris Sale or Jacob Degram. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's super clo close to me. Again, this is what

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking about with splitting hairs. I worry a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit more about And I don't even know if it's

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<v Speaker 1>fair to say, right because like the two years before

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<v Speaker 1>last year, like Chris Sale had gone over two endings,

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<v Speaker 1>like each of them, what you just you watch him pitch,

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<v Speaker 1>and as awesome as he is, you kind of do

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<v Speaker 1>get scared just because, like as wiry as his frame is,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, he missed time last year. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>me personally, I still kind of like worried that he's

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<v Speaker 1>at more of an injury risk than a guy like

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<v Speaker 1>Jacob Degram. I just think de Gram is safer in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of the endings pitch. So if I'm choosing one

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<v Speaker 1>of them, I'm taking to Graham. And you know, we've

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<v Speaker 1>said this about some of the hitters, like Christian Yellows

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<v Speaker 1>that's going in the first round Jose are Mira, is

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<v Speaker 1>that even if they regress a little bit from their

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<v Speaker 1>numbers last year, they could still pay off first round value.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that's a good way to sum it

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<v Speaker 1>up with Jacob Agram right, Like he's probably not gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be as good as he was last year. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>he was like historically good. But even if he comes

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<v Speaker 1>back to a you know, sub three e r A,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, the winds should be better because we

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<v Speaker 1>all expect the Mets line up to be better this year,

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<v Speaker 1>so he should get a little bit more run support.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the strikeouts are still gonna be there. For

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<v Speaker 1>de Graham. So even if the e R A and

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<v Speaker 1>the Whip like regress a little bit and come back,

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<v Speaker 1>I still think that he could pay off first round value.

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<v Speaker 1>In bestball leagues, I'm more apt to take starting pitching

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<v Speaker 1>early and get those those anchors and those guys that

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<v Speaker 1>are gonna give you any's pitched just because it's best ball.

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<v Speaker 1>Like you're not gonna be able to make moves once

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<v Speaker 1>the season starts, so it's a little bit different there.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm definitely gonna want to try and get like one

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<v Speaker 1>of these A starting pitchers, but I've kind of feared

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<v Speaker 1>off a little bit in terms of, like when I'm

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<v Speaker 1>doing these Rhoto drafts, I really do like that tear

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<v Speaker 1>that you know, Paul Nick brought up about like Severino,

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<v Speaker 1>I think, you know, if I could get two of

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<v Speaker 1>the top starting pitchers, I think I'm all right with that.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's kind of like what I did in my

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<v Speaker 1>great fantasy based plantation I ended up with I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>take a starting picture until around three. It's like Walker

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<v Speaker 1>Bueller and I just followed it up with James Paxson

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<v Speaker 1>in the fourth round. I'm all right with that, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>as long as I get two of the top, like

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<v Speaker 1>the fifteen twenties starting pitchers. I think I'm cool with that,

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm not I've kind of like veered off of

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think I have to have an ace like

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<v Speaker 1>at the back end of the first round. There's so

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<v Speaker 1>much hitting talent there too. Like trying to tell you,

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<v Speaker 1>I was trying to tell you fifteen range like Aaron

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<v Speaker 1>Judge and Jarcarlo Stanton and Alex Bregman and all these

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<v Speaker 1>guys that are going in that range, it's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>hard to argue against just like picking up two of

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<v Speaker 1>those guys absolutely, And there's That's what to answer your question,

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<v Speaker 1>long answer, it would take the ground over Christal all right,

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<v Speaker 1>to go back to you, Nick answer Frank's long and

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<v Speaker 1>whitey answer to grub Verse to Sale. If you're taking

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<v Speaker 1>one of these guys, I know you can send you

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<v Speaker 1>winning a pitching so you're not bring them up the

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<v Speaker 1>board either. But if you feel or whoever's drafting fields

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<v Speaker 1>are the best guy on the board, which one would

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<v Speaker 1>you take? Chris Sale? Jacob de Gram? Now I'll be

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<v Speaker 1>taking Jacob to Graham as well. Um, I think we

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<v Speaker 1>do need to consider the fact that the Red Sox

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<v Speaker 1>will be in a winning situation again and they will

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<v Speaker 1>be able to baby Chris Sale in September again. I

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<v Speaker 1>that is really concerning to see such a massive drop

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<v Speaker 1>in velocity during the season, and we do have to

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<v Speaker 1>take that into consideration. If you're going for a starter

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<v Speaker 1>at the beginning of your drafts, it's about the floor,

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<v Speaker 1>and I feel a little bit more comfortable with the GRAM. However,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're talking about the quality of innings, if you

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<v Speaker 1>say that it's two undered innings each for Sale and

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<v Speaker 1>the GRAM, I'm going with Sale. But there's too much

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<v Speaker 1>of a I don't know, a haze around Sale that

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<v Speaker 1>I need to take to GRAM. Second. Yeah, I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's a good way to put it to right, Like

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<v Speaker 1>if you were guaranteed to any pitch of each of

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<v Speaker 1>these two guys, I agree, Like I think on a

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<v Speaker 1>perst start ending basis, pitched for Chris Sales, he's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be better. But I just I worry a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit more about him getting closer to the two endings,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, for reasons that Nick mentioned. I mean the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that are the Red Sox really gonna need to

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<v Speaker 1>push him throughout the throughout the regular season. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>they need him for October like they did last year, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So I think there's just a little bit more at

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<v Speaker 1>stake there. I will say, Jacob Degram, I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>is risk free. This whole talk about how potentially shutting

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<v Speaker 1>himself down or like limiting his own endings if he

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't get a contract extension throughout the season. That's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of scared me off a little bit as well. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's all. I think it's all like leverage, leverage

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<v Speaker 1>and and so on. Yeah, I mean, look, the thing is,

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<v Speaker 1>I think you know, when you're considering taking a starting

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<v Speaker 1>pitcher in the first round drag, you need to consider

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<v Speaker 1>all of these things, like if you have a report,

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely like throw it away. So he's just taking all

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<v Speaker 1>It's just information, right, It's just information, you know, as

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<v Speaker 1>good as de Gram and Sale are. I just I

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<v Speaker 1>worry about the endings um and maybe a slight injury

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<v Speaker 1>risk and the decreased velocity with Chris Sale a little bit,

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<v Speaker 1>and then with Jacob to ground, I do worry about

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<v Speaker 1>like and potentially you know, limiting his endings or whatever. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's kind of why I've like kind of backed

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<v Speaker 1>off taking a starting pitch pulling those guys up to

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<v Speaker 1>the board where you know you can kind of you

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<v Speaker 1>can just take two of these like so called aces

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<v Speaker 1>like I think, I think you know is an a

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<v Speaker 1>while ago. Look a lot of it comes down to

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<v Speaker 1>roster construction too, because in the Great fantasy based prementational

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<v Speaker 1>Rice Harper felt to me in the middle of the

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<v Speaker 1>second round, I had picked eight. So so you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I take Jose Ramirez first and then I get Bryce

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<v Speaker 1>Harper in the second round. I didn't want to like

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<v Speaker 1>take a Aaron Nola or um, you know, pull someone

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<v Speaker 1>up else up the board there in the second like

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted Bryce Harper, he felt to me, and that

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<v Speaker 1>was the best player available in my opinion, So I

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<v Speaker 1>took him, and then you kind of adjust from there,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, you want to get your aces after that,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know that's what I did with Walker Bueller

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<v Speaker 1>and James Paxson. So it's not, as I think concrete

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<v Speaker 1>that you have to take a starting picture in the

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<v Speaker 1>first two rounds. Maybe, as I let on early on,

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<v Speaker 1>fair enough, fair enough, um Nick, I want to go

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<v Speaker 1>back to you because I think as much fun as

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<v Speaker 1>that was, whatever, do you have an opinion, I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>here bashing everybody. I would only just you my bashing Nick.

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<v Speaker 1>I like Nick. My opinion is like you know me, Frank,

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<v Speaker 1>I always want to try. I always want to try.

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<v Speaker 1>You own one of these three players I could. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to rule that out. But as I've been

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<v Speaker 1>kind of saying to you towards the end of the

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<v Speaker 1>first round, in the early second round, there's so many

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<v Speaker 1>good hitters that I don't want to let them necessarily go.

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<v Speaker 1>Problem is, you don't know what you're guarantee. If you're

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<v Speaker 1>guaranteeing me Severino around three, I would let him go

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<v Speaker 1>out happily. I would happily let them go. I just

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<v Speaker 1>don't know that I can do that. I like walking

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<v Speaker 1>away with a hitter and a picture if possible. If

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<v Speaker 1>it's not there, it's not there. I'm not going to

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<v Speaker 1>force it. Like I'm happy to take No. One hour

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<v Speaker 1>Nado at eight or nine, which is what we've talked about,

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<v Speaker 1>as an eight or ninth best player on the board,

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<v Speaker 1>and they come back around and take Artragelog Like I'll

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<v Speaker 1>do that if there's no speed there. But like you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I'm you know what I'm saying, right, And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm happy to do that rather than force um the

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<v Speaker 1>gram or sale, because I don't know that the next

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<v Speaker 1>group is seemingly that far away, and even if they

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<v Speaker 1>are far away right now, as you sela Jacob deGrom

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<v Speaker 1>last year, certainly they could enter into that territory. So

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<v Speaker 1>I don't feel um pressured to get one of these

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<v Speaker 1>three guy britty guys. But I do feel like it's

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's fine. I don't have a problem with it.

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<v Speaker 1>Basically cool to answer your question, appreciate it as as

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<v Speaker 1>little fun as those three guys are. I think what

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<v Speaker 1>makes the next batch of guys much more fun is well,

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<v Speaker 1>who goes next? Right in this crew with an a

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<v Speaker 1>d P According to the NFBC, all within like ten

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<v Speaker 1>spots of each other, justin Corey Kluber, Our, Nola Garrett

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<v Speaker 1>hole Like Snell, Trevor Bauer, Luis Savaino, Carlos Grasco man

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<v Speaker 1>like all these guys together. So excited to talk to you,

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<v Speaker 1>Nick Pollock about how you order these guys, why you

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<v Speaker 1>order them in which way, and when they should be drafted.

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<v Speaker 1>obviously while we're dancing and singing. Did you did you

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<v Speaker 1>join along there or you just more of a reserve type. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I was definitely dancing. It was a great time. I

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<v Speaker 1>want to that's what I do. I want to confirm

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<v Speaker 1>so we can see it, and he was dancing. I'd

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate it. All right, Let's let's get Nick on the screen.

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<v Speaker 1>Here we go. There, that's what I do. I'm subtle.

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<v Speaker 1>I say it every time. I like that. Don't trust

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<v Speaker 1>And we are talking about aces that we hope ace

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<v Speaker 1>really all season long, we're trying to figure out how

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<v Speaker 1>to break down these aces, which one we like, which

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<v Speaker 1>one we don't, and the order that we should be

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<v Speaker 1>drafting them in the next two guys coining the NFBC

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<v Speaker 1>when Frank and I were talking about a strategy for

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<v Speaker 1>a draft that we're co owning in, I'm like, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know about I don't know these guys like agism,

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<v Speaker 1>for sure, you just expect the decline rather be a

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<v Speaker 1>year earlier year later that that whole deal, and you're like,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you do that? Justin Berlander and Corey Gloober

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<v Speaker 1>So okay, you go the next guys like Aaron Nola.

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<v Speaker 1>He has his own shirt on pitcher list dot Com.

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<v Speaker 1>I like him, So I'm like, all right, I like Nola,

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<v Speaker 1>Philly great National League. Garrett Cole was amazing last year.

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<v Speaker 1>Blake Snell's your side. Young Award winner, Trevor Bower is

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<v Speaker 1>getting so much love, Luis Savria, Macarlos Crasco. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of names here. How do you break

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<v Speaker 1>it down? Yeah, I actually see in the next three guys.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a pretty easy tear to me. And it's the

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<v Speaker 1>ones that I do expect to go about two innings

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<v Speaker 1>with elite strike out stuff, and that's Verlander, Bauer and

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<v Speaker 1>Coal in order. Verlander having a fastball essentially be his

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<v Speaker 1>prime fastball from like two thousand twelve at the top

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<v Speaker 1>of the line and we're not talking ninety three miles,

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<v Speaker 1>We're talking ninety five on that pitch, consistently swinging Strake

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<v Speaker 1>grade of fourteen point five percent last year, which is

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<v Speaker 1>far and away the best mark he's ever had. In

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<v Speaker 1>his career. It's a career mark of ten point five

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<v Speaker 1>percent swinging strake grade four teen point five, all of

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<v Speaker 1>a sudden phenomenal, I see a workhorse here, plus of

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<v Speaker 1>elite strikeout rates. I don't see him, honestly half far

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<v Speaker 1>off from sale and uh into Grom honestly, and I

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<v Speaker 1>see what he did last year is very legitimate. So

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<v Speaker 1>he is the clear number four to me. Uh And

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<v Speaker 1>when we talk about the others Klueber, Savarino, Syndergard, etcetera,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot more concern I think they're especially at

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<v Speaker 1>the two hundred inning threshold than there is with Verlander.

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<v Speaker 1>I see Trevor Bauer as someone that has been elite

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<v Speaker 1>for a year and a half now, not a year.

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<v Speaker 1>He introduced a new slider for him his cutter in

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand seventeen, the second half had a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>success there pointed to a possible breakout in two thousand

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<v Speaker 1>and eighteen. That's exactly what we saw. I see a

0:23:08.040 --> 0:23:09.760
<v Speaker 1>guy that can go two hundred innings easily. The only

0:23:09.800 --> 0:23:11.480
<v Speaker 1>thing that stopped him from doing that last year was

0:23:11.480 --> 0:23:14.720
<v Speaker 1>a linebacker into his like, so I don't see why

0:23:14.800 --> 0:23:16.280
<v Speaker 1>he can't do that this year. He's even talked a

0:23:16.359 --> 0:23:20.560
<v Speaker 1>ton about pushing himself and you know, being Max all

0:23:20.600 --> 0:23:23.120
<v Speaker 1>the time and one year contracts. This is someone who

0:23:23.160 --> 0:23:25.600
<v Speaker 1>can give you two two D twenty innings this year

0:23:25.680 --> 0:23:29.080
<v Speaker 1>of elite of elite quality innings. And they have Garrick Cole,

0:23:29.160 --> 0:23:31.640
<v Speaker 1>who obviously I don't really need to say much about

0:23:31.760 --> 0:23:34.640
<v Speaker 1>his breakout last year thirty four point five percent strikeout rates,

0:23:34.880 --> 0:23:37.440
<v Speaker 1>two hundred frames. I can see a lot of the

0:23:37.520 --> 0:23:39.480
<v Speaker 1>same there. It's a little bit more of a risk

0:23:39.520 --> 0:23:41.639
<v Speaker 1>I think in the ear A department concerning he had

0:23:41.640 --> 0:23:43.320
<v Speaker 1>such an amazing start of the year and they did

0:23:43.400 --> 0:23:45.639
<v Speaker 1>slow down a bit after and at home run rate

0:23:45.720 --> 0:23:48.240
<v Speaker 1>probably will be around love and percent or so. But

0:23:48.800 --> 0:23:52.320
<v Speaker 1>I still see him as two hundred plus quality innings, uh,

0:23:52.440 --> 0:23:57.600
<v Speaker 1>and more of a safer bank than the ones that follow. Yeah.

0:23:57.640 --> 0:24:01.040
<v Speaker 1>So I am in complete agreement with with Verlander and

0:24:01.400 --> 0:24:04.240
<v Speaker 1>and Garrit Cole. I know that you're you're kind of

0:24:04.600 --> 0:24:06.840
<v Speaker 1>you want to do the one year earlier rather than

0:24:08.520 --> 0:24:11.280
<v Speaker 1>but but Greg, in terms of like everything that you've seen,

0:24:11.720 --> 0:24:14.199
<v Speaker 1>like velocity still being there, like the swinging strike rate

0:24:14.280 --> 0:24:19.320
<v Speaker 1>was ridiculous last year, there's nothing. He's joined Houston and

0:24:19.640 --> 0:24:22.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, look I'm not gonna do I'm not gonna

0:24:22.760 --> 0:24:26.400
<v Speaker 1>technically side with Trevor Bauer here, but anyone who goes

0:24:26.440 --> 0:24:29.159
<v Speaker 1>to Houston, uh, you know they get a little bit

0:24:29.200 --> 0:24:32.600
<v Speaker 1>more spin on the ball for whatever reason, those curveballs

0:24:32.640 --> 0:24:35.480
<v Speaker 1>they are working. So look, Verlander has been ridiculous since

0:24:35.520 --> 0:24:39.160
<v Speaker 1>he's joined, uh the Houston Astros, and then with Gerrit Cole,

0:24:39.480 --> 0:24:41.479
<v Speaker 1>like I think for me, he's the next one up, right,

0:24:41.520 --> 0:24:45.560
<v Speaker 1>Like if you are slightly worried about the age concern

0:24:45.920 --> 0:24:48.560
<v Speaker 1>with a Justin Verlander, which I am not, but you

0:24:48.680 --> 0:24:51.359
<v Speaker 1>might be, why don't why not just pivot off to

0:24:51.400 --> 0:24:54.119
<v Speaker 1>a guy like Garrick Cole who is younger, is on

0:24:54.240 --> 0:24:56.879
<v Speaker 1>the same team, Like he's gonna get run support. As

0:24:56.960 --> 0:24:59.439
<v Speaker 1>hard as it is to predict wins, like we think

0:24:59.480 --> 0:25:01.399
<v Speaker 1>the Houston a Shops are gonna win a lot of games, right. So,

0:25:02.160 --> 0:25:05.280
<v Speaker 1>and you know his first year with Houston very similar,

0:25:05.400 --> 0:25:07.040
<v Speaker 1>Like you see the strike out rate go up, the

0:25:07.080 --> 0:25:10.440
<v Speaker 1>swinging strikes. He was just awesome, like he finally he

0:25:10.560 --> 0:25:12.800
<v Speaker 1>put it all together. You know, one of Matt Modiquas

0:25:12.840 --> 0:25:14.840
<v Speaker 1>guys from last year say this a lot about like,

0:25:14.920 --> 0:25:17.320
<v Speaker 1>all right, Modica, who are your guys last year? He

0:25:17.359 --> 0:25:20.440
<v Speaker 1>was in on Garrit Colet. He's been on Aaronola for

0:25:20.480 --> 0:25:23.320
<v Speaker 1>a couple of years now. Trevor Bauer is the one

0:25:23.400 --> 0:25:25.360
<v Speaker 1>that I find a little bit more interesting here, Nick,

0:25:25.520 --> 0:25:27.800
<v Speaker 1>And look, I can't knock it in terms of the skills,

0:25:28.080 --> 0:25:30.359
<v Speaker 1>You're absolutely right about the slider. Since he's introduced that

0:25:30.400 --> 0:25:32.959
<v Speaker 1>pitch a year and a half, algo, he's been awesome. Uh,

0:25:33.080 --> 0:25:35.800
<v Speaker 1>He's he hasn't topped a hundred and nine innings. Um,

0:25:36.000 --> 0:25:38.760
<v Speaker 1>he's only done it once. Rather in I hear what

0:25:38.800 --> 0:25:41.280
<v Speaker 1>you're saying about the line, the liner that he took

0:25:41.359 --> 0:25:43.560
<v Speaker 1>last year off the leg that kind of prevented him.

0:25:43.600 --> 0:25:46.280
<v Speaker 1>But he isn't a contract year, so you have that

0:25:46.440 --> 0:25:48.520
<v Speaker 1>narrative as well. Like I think if if there's anything

0:25:48.600 --> 0:25:51.320
<v Speaker 1>that's going to uh to motivate a guy like Trevor Bout,

0:25:51.359 --> 0:25:53.440
<v Speaker 1>I mean he's like very outspoken, Like you know, he

0:25:53.520 --> 0:25:54.959
<v Speaker 1>goes on Twitter all the time, he goes on these

0:25:55.040 --> 0:25:57.560
<v Speaker 1>rants and stuff. There's anything that's going to motivate him.

0:25:57.720 --> 0:25:59.640
<v Speaker 1>The fact that you know he's playing for a long

0:25:59.760 --> 0:26:02.879
<v Speaker 1>term contract coming up. I think that is. But I

0:26:02.960 --> 0:26:05.000
<v Speaker 1>find the interesting that you kind of you want you

0:26:05.119 --> 0:26:08.000
<v Speaker 1>want Trevor Bauer and with with the this trio in

0:26:08.080 --> 0:26:11.240
<v Speaker 1>the second round rather than a guy like Aaron Nolan.

0:26:11.720 --> 0:26:16.040
<v Speaker 1>Everyone seems pretty excited. So al right, well, two things

0:26:16.119 --> 0:26:18.440
<v Speaker 1>there about Clubber. If you want to talk about ageism

0:26:18.600 --> 0:26:22.639
<v Speaker 1>and falling off, he actually has the signs of degradation

0:26:22.760 --> 0:26:25.480
<v Speaker 1>that you should be worried about, as opposed to Verlander,

0:26:25.520 --> 0:26:28.840
<v Speaker 1>who doesn't What signs? What what signs are you referring

0:26:28.880 --> 0:26:32.120
<v Speaker 1>to here? Yeah, decline, specifically declining fastball and the fact

0:26:32.160 --> 0:26:34.440
<v Speaker 1>that he lost seven ticks of swing straight right on

0:26:34.520 --> 0:26:38.200
<v Speaker 1>his cutter. That's really scary. It's still a great pitch,

0:26:38.440 --> 0:26:42.080
<v Speaker 1>but seeing his secondary stuff that has been supporting a

0:26:42.160 --> 0:26:46.119
<v Speaker 1>bad fastball for a long time getting worse. It's just

0:26:46.320 --> 0:26:48.119
<v Speaker 1>kind of will be looking back at it in a

0:26:48.160 --> 0:26:51.000
<v Speaker 1>year or two saying, oh, yeah, here's a straight decline

0:26:51.359 --> 0:26:54.280
<v Speaker 1>and we've should have seen this coming. It does make

0:26:54.320 --> 0:26:57.240
<v Speaker 1>me scary. I still have Corey Cliber at seven because

0:26:57.280 --> 0:27:00.600
<v Speaker 1>I think his concerns are not or they're just a

0:27:00.680 --> 0:27:03.520
<v Speaker 1>lot of concerns after and he just fine, I'll allow

0:27:03.600 --> 0:27:06.320
<v Speaker 1>it for one more year with Corey Kluber. But if

0:27:06.320 --> 0:27:08.800
<v Speaker 1>you're going to talk about you know, I don't want

0:27:08.800 --> 0:27:10.000
<v Speaker 1>to be one year too late. I want to be

0:27:10.119 --> 0:27:12.480
<v Speaker 1>one year too early. Klueber is actually, I think the

0:27:12.600 --> 0:27:15.159
<v Speaker 1>one that you should be scared of the most. Um

0:27:15.520 --> 0:27:18.920
<v Speaker 1>now with Aaron Nola. I actually have been the biggest

0:27:19.080 --> 0:27:21.800
<v Speaker 1>Aaron Nola fan since like two thousand and fifteen, and

0:27:21.880 --> 0:27:25.840
<v Speaker 1>it's burned me obviously until last year. And that's why

0:27:25.840 --> 0:27:27.639
<v Speaker 1>I actually live every day like it's Nola Day. Is

0:27:27.680 --> 0:27:30.440
<v Speaker 1>a long time thing on the site. Uh, this is

0:27:30.480 --> 0:27:32.760
<v Speaker 1>the first year that I'm not on the Aeronola train.

0:27:33.720 --> 0:27:36.960
<v Speaker 1>I had him at number ten originally, actually now have

0:27:37.040 --> 0:27:40.800
<v Speaker 1>Sabrino above him at eleven. Uh. There are a couple

0:27:40.800 --> 0:27:43.119
<v Speaker 1>of things of an Aeronol that scared me. One that

0:27:43.280 --> 0:27:45.320
<v Speaker 1>he has had an injury history. Last year was the

0:27:45.320 --> 0:27:48.159
<v Speaker 1>first year that it was okay, everything was fine, but

0:27:48.280 --> 0:27:50.120
<v Speaker 1>he has had back trouble in the past as well.

0:27:51.000 --> 0:27:53.240
<v Speaker 1>I don't like that. I also don't like the fact

0:27:53.359 --> 0:27:56.800
<v Speaker 1>that he doesn't have the same elite numbers as other

0:27:56.840 --> 0:27:59.640
<v Speaker 1>guys that we're talking about here. It's a three forty Sierra.

0:28:00.200 --> 0:28:03.760
<v Speaker 1>On top of that that is uh adjusting to his

0:28:04.040 --> 0:28:06.840
<v Speaker 1>expecting home own rates. The fact that the Phillies defense

0:28:06.960 --> 0:28:09.440
<v Speaker 1>isn't that great and he shouldn't be containing a two

0:28:09.560 --> 0:28:12.840
<v Speaker 1>fifty one Babbitt being a heavy groundball pitcher that generally

0:28:12.880 --> 0:28:15.800
<v Speaker 1>speaks to a higher babbit than that. And while he

0:28:15.840 --> 0:28:18.359
<v Speaker 1>has a towel point five percent swings streaker, which is great,

0:28:19.400 --> 0:28:22.480
<v Speaker 1>I regenerated k rate and I don't think he takes

0:28:22.520 --> 0:28:25.159
<v Speaker 1>the leap of being at plus k rate like we

0:28:25.280 --> 0:28:28.159
<v Speaker 1>do everybody else in front of him. So it all

0:28:28.200 --> 0:28:32.960
<v Speaker 1>adds up to maybe sub two inning pitched, maybe a

0:28:33.680 --> 0:28:37.080
<v Speaker 1>three or so ear Ray with k Ray in a

0:28:37.280 --> 0:28:40.640
<v Speaker 1>one to one ten whip, and that's great, But I

0:28:40.720 --> 0:28:42.960
<v Speaker 1>think the other guys have just a higher ceiling without

0:28:43.600 --> 0:28:45.680
<v Speaker 1>much of a different floor. So that's why I'm a

0:28:45.720 --> 0:28:48.040
<v Speaker 1>bit out on Nola. It's really weird saying that because

0:28:48.080 --> 0:28:51.640
<v Speaker 1>he's my boy, uh and uh, but that's just kind

0:28:51.680 --> 0:28:53.440
<v Speaker 1>of the state of it right now. And I think

0:28:53.520 --> 0:28:56.120
<v Speaker 1>that makes sense too. Right. So, when we had Modica on,

0:28:56.200 --> 0:28:58.680
<v Speaker 1>he talks a lot about price for prop right, like

0:28:58.880 --> 0:29:02.880
<v Speaker 1>buying not just pictures but players, right that that obviously

0:29:02.960 --> 0:29:05.200
<v Speaker 1>can profit where you're where you're drafting them right now.

0:29:05.320 --> 0:29:08.000
<v Speaker 1>So now now, Aaron Nola, you're kind of drafting him

0:29:08.040 --> 0:29:10.840
<v Speaker 1>based on last year's results, and you know, this is

0:29:10.840 --> 0:29:13.880
<v Speaker 1>actually actually an interesting exercise. Nick that you know, I've

0:29:13.880 --> 0:29:17.000
<v Speaker 1>saw I saw people point this out on Twitter before,

0:29:17.120 --> 0:29:19.200
<v Speaker 1>is that if you look at the FIP and the

0:29:19.320 --> 0:29:21.800
<v Speaker 1>ex fifit and si era of Aaron Nola over the

0:29:21.880 --> 0:29:25.720
<v Speaker 1>past three seasons, it's it's been unchanged. His e ARRA

0:29:25.880 --> 0:29:27.840
<v Speaker 1>has been all over the place during that span, right.

0:29:27.880 --> 0:29:30.120
<v Speaker 1>So last year he was two point three seven, the

0:29:30.200 --> 0:29:31.880
<v Speaker 1>year before that he was three five four, and then

0:29:31.920 --> 0:29:34.800
<v Speaker 1>in sixteen he was four seven eight. But his fit

0:29:34.960 --> 0:29:37.360
<v Speaker 1>has been between three zero eight and three to seven

0:29:37.520 --> 0:29:40.160
<v Speaker 1>all those seasons, right, and his exit has been between

0:29:40.560 --> 0:29:42.920
<v Speaker 1>zero eight and three three eight all those seasons, right,

0:29:42.960 --> 0:29:45.560
<v Speaker 1>So he's probably somewhere in the middle, like he might

0:29:45.600 --> 0:29:47.760
<v Speaker 1>be closer to his seventeen I think he's a better

0:29:47.800 --> 0:29:49.160
<v Speaker 1>picture than that, you know, I think he's better than

0:29:49.200 --> 0:29:51.560
<v Speaker 1>like a three five e r A. He's maybe a

0:29:52.160 --> 0:29:55.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, a low threes e r A. So I

0:29:55.120 --> 0:29:56.800
<v Speaker 1>kind of get what Nick is talking about here with

0:29:56.880 --> 0:29:59.239
<v Speaker 1>Aaron Nola. And you know the case per nine, uh

0:29:59.320 --> 0:30:01.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, they're they're nine and a half. But the

0:30:01.200 --> 0:30:03.120
<v Speaker 1>swinging strike rate was a career high last year in

0:30:03.240 --> 0:30:05.800
<v Speaker 1>terms of it was twelve percent, So maybe that uh

0:30:05.880 --> 0:30:08.640
<v Speaker 1>those k per nine the strikeout rate overall comes up

0:30:08.640 --> 0:30:10.440
<v Speaker 1>a little bit for Aaronola, but he doesn't have the

0:30:10.480 --> 0:30:13.360
<v Speaker 1>same upside in like a Garrett Cole where he's giving

0:30:13.400 --> 0:30:15.480
<v Speaker 1>you eleven twelve case per nine, and same thing with

0:30:15.560 --> 0:30:18.080
<v Speaker 1>Justin Verlander, where you know we've seen those guys go

0:30:18.160 --> 0:30:20.920
<v Speaker 1>two under any multiple years in a row. Now, I

0:30:21.040 --> 0:30:24.120
<v Speaker 1>think it's fair to put Trevor Bauer closer to like

0:30:24.240 --> 0:30:26.800
<v Speaker 1>the Aaron Nolah, Like if you're really like micro managing

0:30:27.120 --> 0:30:29.800
<v Speaker 1>this this tier of starting pitching, like in the second round,

0:30:30.120 --> 0:30:32.160
<v Speaker 1>I think Justin Verlander and Garrett Cole are ahead of

0:30:32.240 --> 0:30:35.560
<v Speaker 1>both Bauer and Nola. And then I think Bauer is

0:30:35.600 --> 0:30:38.160
<v Speaker 1>kind of closer to Aaronola, like on a per game basis,

0:30:38.200 --> 0:30:40.600
<v Speaker 1>he might be better, but I do have some concerns

0:30:40.600 --> 0:30:43.400
<v Speaker 1>with him as well in terms in terms of getting

0:30:43.440 --> 0:30:46.360
<v Speaker 1>the two pitched. He's never done it. Aaronola actually did

0:30:46.400 --> 0:30:48.200
<v Speaker 1>do it last year. So I think those guys are

0:30:48.280 --> 0:30:51.200
<v Speaker 1>kind of like later second round, whereas I feel a

0:30:51.280 --> 0:30:53.960
<v Speaker 1>little bit tad safer with guys like Garrett Cole and

0:30:54.000 --> 0:30:56.160
<v Speaker 1>Justin Verlander. Again, I mean we're just finding stuff to

0:30:56.200 --> 0:30:59.040
<v Speaker 1>like split hairs here between these starting pitchers would have

0:30:59.120 --> 0:31:02.800
<v Speaker 1>interested in trying to figure out is Nick, you had Verlander,

0:31:03.000 --> 0:31:06.320
<v Speaker 1>Bower and Cole in that tier together. You haven't basically

0:31:06.360 --> 0:31:07.680
<v Speaker 1>at four or five and six. He told me that

0:31:07.720 --> 0:31:10.240
<v Speaker 1>you just told me that Seborino and Nola are ten

0:31:10.320 --> 0:31:13.120
<v Speaker 1>and eleven. That leaves seven, eight, nine, And I'm trying

0:31:13.120 --> 0:31:14.960
<v Speaker 1>to figure out who you have there? Are we talking

0:31:15.000 --> 0:31:18.720
<v Speaker 1>Carlos Carrasco, Blake Snella? What are you thinking in the

0:31:18.800 --> 0:31:22.200
<v Speaker 1>tier between these guys? So so it's not Carrasco. I'm

0:31:22.200 --> 0:31:25.560
<v Speaker 1>actually someone that has never drafted Carrasco, say, for I

0:31:25.640 --> 0:31:28.600
<v Speaker 1>think of two thousand and fifteen or so. I'm worried

0:31:28.600 --> 0:31:30.960
<v Speaker 1>about his health, and I think that his overall repertoire

0:31:31.040 --> 0:31:35.360
<v Speaker 1>just doesn't speak to uh elongated success like the other guys,

0:31:35.720 --> 0:31:40.200
<v Speaker 1>especially bad fastball, like really bad fastball. Um, but actually

0:31:40.280 --> 0:31:44.120
<v Speaker 1>I have Suberino above synder Guard. Synder Guard is now

0:31:44.200 --> 0:31:49.760
<v Speaker 1>at ten, it's Clubber at seven, Snell at eight, Seby nine, etcetera. Um,

0:31:51.160 --> 0:31:53.680
<v Speaker 1>you do still have Clubber right in that mix despite

0:31:53.800 --> 0:31:56.640
<v Speaker 1>the decline we see coming. It's kind of like the

0:31:56.760 --> 0:31:59.280
<v Speaker 1>tier of all Right, all these guys can be great

0:31:59.400 --> 0:32:02.760
<v Speaker 1>in amazing, but there are problems that we need to

0:32:02.760 --> 0:32:06.320
<v Speaker 1>address in question marks that I think honestly. I mean, Frank,

0:32:06.360 --> 0:32:09.400
<v Speaker 1>you're talking about the concerns of Bauer. Bauer would have

0:32:09.600 --> 0:32:12.040
<v Speaker 1>had two hundred innings in previous years. He like, he

0:32:12.120 --> 0:32:15.280
<v Speaker 1>has the ability. It's just that he was bad back then.

0:32:16.440 --> 0:32:19.080
<v Speaker 1>That was that was literally the reason why he didn't Uh,

0:32:19.160 --> 0:32:21.560
<v Speaker 1>he didn't even get full starts. Uh. You know, he

0:32:22.080 --> 0:32:25.080
<v Speaker 1>had some relief appearances because he wasn't great until he

0:32:25.160 --> 0:32:27.280
<v Speaker 1>got great, and then pretty much he was just rolling

0:32:27.320 --> 0:32:29.320
<v Speaker 1>and would have easily gone over two hundred before. For

0:32:29.360 --> 0:32:33.720
<v Speaker 1>that Liner, I'm not worried about that two hundred innings concerned. Honestly,

0:32:33.760 --> 0:32:35.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm more worried about it for Nola than I am

0:32:35.880 --> 0:32:39.240
<v Speaker 1>for Bauer. Um. But it's talking about the concerns already

0:32:39.280 --> 0:32:41.400
<v Speaker 1>talked about Clueber a bit about why I think he

0:32:41.480 --> 0:32:44.520
<v Speaker 1>might take a step back this year With Blake Snell,

0:32:45.320 --> 0:32:47.080
<v Speaker 1>I mean, there's not much more I need to say

0:32:47.120 --> 0:32:49.880
<v Speaker 1>than to forty one babbit and eight percent left the

0:32:49.920 --> 0:32:52.880
<v Speaker 1>base rate. It's really hard to expect those kind of

0:32:52.960 --> 0:32:55.120
<v Speaker 1>numbers to repeat. And then again that return of nine

0:32:55.240 --> 0:32:58.480
<v Speaker 1>year ray Uh, maybe that you know, full takeoff is

0:32:58.520 --> 0:33:02.000
<v Speaker 1>still underneath three. Yes. At the same time, I also

0:33:02.080 --> 0:33:04.280
<v Speaker 1>think that the Rays are gonna baby him a little bit.

0:33:05.520 --> 0:33:08.400
<v Speaker 1>They are definitely one of those organizations that understands the

0:33:09.000 --> 0:33:11.560
<v Speaker 1>value of a good bullpen or utilizing it a lot.

0:33:12.160 --> 0:33:14.120
<v Speaker 1>And we saw, especially in the second half, they were

0:33:14.760 --> 0:33:18.160
<v Speaker 1>just completely easy on Snell. They didn't even let him

0:33:18.160 --> 0:33:20.440
<v Speaker 1>go deeper into games because he was coming off of

0:33:20.480 --> 0:33:22.400
<v Speaker 1>injury and they just had no reason to really push him.

0:33:23.080 --> 0:33:25.360
<v Speaker 1>So I can see that happen again. And it's a

0:33:25.400 --> 0:33:29.479
<v Speaker 1>little tougher for me to see two hundred strong innings

0:33:29.520 --> 0:33:32.600
<v Speaker 1>from Snell than the other guys. But at eight, I mean,

0:33:33.360 --> 0:33:37.120
<v Speaker 1>he clearly hasn't made with fastballs up, curveball, slider down

0:33:37.240 --> 0:33:39.440
<v Speaker 1>with a really good changeup as his fourth pitch. Now,

0:33:39.880 --> 0:33:43.040
<v Speaker 1>I actually you can't see it, but on my wall

0:33:43.200 --> 0:33:48.120
<v Speaker 1>I have framed uh the strikes one plot of the

0:33:48.200 --> 0:33:50.800
<v Speaker 1>game he had against the Seattle Mariners on June three,

0:33:51.000 --> 0:33:54.320
<v Speaker 1>where he has just four steamers elevated and curveballs and

0:33:54.400 --> 0:33:55.920
<v Speaker 1>sliders at the bottom of the zone. It's one of

0:33:55.920 --> 0:33:59.040
<v Speaker 1>my favorite things in my room. So I love his transition.

0:33:59.120 --> 0:34:00.800
<v Speaker 1>I love his new approach. I really do think it

0:34:00.880 --> 0:34:05.760
<v Speaker 1>sticks through a lot of high praise here when it

0:34:05.880 --> 0:34:08.800
<v Speaker 1>comes to Trevor Bauer, I mean, that's one of my

0:34:08.840 --> 0:34:11.560
<v Speaker 1>biggest takeaways here is how good do you expect Bauer

0:34:11.640 --> 0:34:15.760
<v Speaker 1>to be in this tire um amongst Verlander and amongst

0:34:15.800 --> 0:34:19.640
<v Speaker 1>Garrett Cole, and ahead of similar more known commodities essentially

0:34:20.080 --> 0:34:24.640
<v Speaker 1>um with Aaron Nola, with Blake snell Um and and

0:34:24.760 --> 0:34:26.840
<v Speaker 1>certainly Corey Kluber as well. Frank, I know you're not

0:34:27.320 --> 0:34:29.000
<v Speaker 1>and you gave us a couple of reasons, but if

0:34:29.000 --> 0:34:31.239
<v Speaker 1>you don't mind going a bit more in depth while

0:34:31.280 --> 0:34:34.040
<v Speaker 1>you're not as in is Nick probably on Trevor Bauer.

0:34:35.320 --> 0:34:38.719
<v Speaker 1>I don't. I don't know. I didn't. I didn't say

0:34:38.719 --> 0:34:41.040
<v Speaker 1>you're out because I don't think you are out, but

0:34:41.120 --> 0:34:45.040
<v Speaker 1>I know you're not as hot. Yeah, I think it's

0:34:45.800 --> 0:34:48.120
<v Speaker 1>I hear what you're saying about the the endings. It's

0:34:48.120 --> 0:34:52.480
<v Speaker 1>just it's it's some somewhat concerns me. Look, he's pitching

0:34:52.520 --> 0:34:54.120
<v Speaker 1>for a contract, so I can see that. On a

0:34:54.160 --> 0:34:56.560
<v Speaker 1>pers star basis, I think he's going to be awesome.

0:34:56.640 --> 0:35:00.239
<v Speaker 1>I just me personally, the fact that i've seen eyes

0:35:00.280 --> 0:35:02.359
<v Speaker 1>like Verlander, and you know, maybe it's just like an

0:35:02.440 --> 0:35:04.520
<v Speaker 1>I think you know, I've seen Verlander and Garrett cold

0:35:04.560 --> 0:35:06.279
<v Speaker 1>go two under any page before and you know, maybe

0:35:06.320 --> 0:35:07.960
<v Speaker 1>it's not even fair to say. And that's why we

0:35:08.040 --> 0:35:10.719
<v Speaker 1>have Nick here to kind of tell us why he

0:35:10.800 --> 0:35:13.160
<v Speaker 1>does expect Trevor Bauer to kind of get there this season.

0:35:13.280 --> 0:35:15.600
<v Speaker 1>So I think it's just I prefer those guys, the

0:35:15.640 --> 0:35:17.839
<v Speaker 1>Astros guys, and I believe you had them ranked ahead

0:35:17.840 --> 0:35:19.120
<v Speaker 1>of him as well, Nick, right, like you have the

0:35:19.120 --> 0:35:24.120
<v Speaker 1>as between them between. But I understand the concerns about Er.

0:35:24.120 --> 0:35:25.640
<v Speaker 1>I mean to help you out. He had a one

0:35:25.640 --> 0:35:28.520
<v Speaker 1>on nine whip last year. That's not the sub one

0:35:28.600 --> 0:35:32.279
<v Speaker 1>that we've seen from other guys. Uh So it's, as

0:35:32.320 --> 0:35:35.800
<v Speaker 1>you said it yourself, it is splitting hairs. It's okay

0:35:35.920 --> 0:35:38.600
<v Speaker 1>if people, you know, want to go with Nola instead.

0:35:38.640 --> 0:35:41.200
<v Speaker 1>I just like the fact that Bauer actually is lower

0:35:41.280 --> 0:35:43.719
<v Speaker 1>in ADP. So when we're talking about going after it

0:35:43.760 --> 0:35:47.160
<v Speaker 1>started maybe in the third round, I've been fortunate to say, Okay, great, cool,

0:35:47.160 --> 0:35:50.920
<v Speaker 1>I'll take Trevor Bauer often, so it's all right. I

0:35:51.120 --> 0:35:54.000
<v Speaker 1>feel it's so close that you can wait. It's just

0:35:54.040 --> 0:35:55.879
<v Speaker 1>an argument to say, just wait till the third round

0:35:55.880 --> 0:35:58.080
<v Speaker 1>and get Trevor Bauer. You know what's another case for

0:35:58.320 --> 0:36:02.839
<v Speaker 1>drafting Trevor Bauer is the the division that he plays him, yes,

0:36:02.960 --> 0:36:05.000
<v Speaker 1>in a center like Aaron Nolan is gonna have to

0:36:05.080 --> 0:36:07.280
<v Speaker 1>face him. The Mets lineup that we like, the Braves,

0:36:07.760 --> 0:36:13.359
<v Speaker 1>the Nationals lineup like not really the easiest division. I mean, yeah,

0:36:13.360 --> 0:36:16.440
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<v Speaker 1>I joined the bridge just looked at each other like,

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<v Speaker 1>as we already think this is Aaron Milo Trevor Bauer thing.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why we bring him on to make this reeth

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<v Speaker 1>We are completely just rethinking all of this, and you

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<v Speaker 1>have you rethinking about Carlos Carrasco. I wanted to get

0:40:38.920 --> 0:40:41.840
<v Speaker 1>me to get your your thoughts here on the next guys,

0:40:41.960 --> 0:40:43.719
<v Speaker 1>unless something else you wanted to bring up some of

0:40:43.760 --> 0:40:46.400
<v Speaker 1>the pictures we talked about already. Are you good? No,

0:40:46.680 --> 0:40:49.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm cool with those guys. I mean the Corey Cooper

0:40:49.040 --> 0:40:50.360
<v Speaker 1>thing is interesting. I think a lot of people are

0:40:50.400 --> 0:40:52.000
<v Speaker 1>still going to try and buy back in. That's why

0:40:52.040 --> 0:40:54.920
<v Speaker 1>you see his ADP where it's at. Where he's he's

0:40:54.960 --> 0:40:58.440
<v Speaker 1>going in at pick twenty four in NFBC ADP, so

0:40:58.520 --> 0:41:00.879
<v Speaker 1>he's going in, you know, the middle of the second round,

0:41:01.360 --> 0:41:04.120
<v Speaker 1>uh in fifteen team drafts. I think a lot of

0:41:04.120 --> 0:41:05.720
<v Speaker 1>people are still going to try and buy in based

0:41:05.760 --> 0:41:08.279
<v Speaker 1>on name value. I mean, where do you kind of

0:41:08.320 --> 0:41:10.200
<v Speaker 1>draw the line, Nick, Like I know you told us

0:41:10.200 --> 0:41:12.680
<v Speaker 1>where you rank him. But you know, if you have

0:41:12.840 --> 0:41:17.640
<v Speaker 1>these concerns, shouldn't we we rank him lower than where

0:41:17.719 --> 0:41:20.520
<v Speaker 1>he is, Like you know and your teams like is

0:41:20.560 --> 0:41:22.279
<v Speaker 1>he an active like a player that you're trying to

0:41:22.320 --> 0:41:25.080
<v Speaker 1>avoid because of like these concerns that you have. Yeah,

0:41:25.120 --> 0:41:27.520
<v Speaker 1>this is a good question. Um, everyone has a price.

0:41:27.600 --> 0:41:30.239
<v Speaker 1>Of course I have him at seven because the other

0:41:30.280 --> 0:41:33.239
<v Speaker 1>guys are about to talk about Snell, Savarino, syndergar Nelo.

0:41:33.320 --> 0:41:36.640
<v Speaker 1>They also all have their concerns, and it's just a

0:41:36.719 --> 0:41:39.080
<v Speaker 1>matter of when I am actually looking to get a

0:41:39.120 --> 0:41:41.880
<v Speaker 1>starter who is on the board. I don't expect to

0:41:41.920 --> 0:41:44.440
<v Speaker 1>own Cluber because as you're mentioning name value and the

0:41:44.560 --> 0:41:47.200
<v Speaker 1>history that Cluber has, they're going to look past the

0:41:47.320 --> 0:41:49.759
<v Speaker 1>fact that he has lowest swinging striker overall since twos

0:41:49.800 --> 0:41:53.360
<v Speaker 1>and fourteen, the lowest fastball velocity has had that stepback,

0:41:53.400 --> 0:41:56.680
<v Speaker 1>as I mentioned before on that signature breaking ball. It's

0:41:56.760 --> 0:41:59.640
<v Speaker 1>just all little concerning for me. But at the same

0:41:59.719 --> 0:42:02.640
<v Speaker 1>same time, he's had five straight years of two specially

0:42:02.640 --> 0:42:04.479
<v Speaker 1>and he still had a sub three year rate even

0:42:04.600 --> 0:42:08.600
<v Speaker 1>with those stepbacks last season. It is concerning. We'll say,

0:42:08.800 --> 0:42:10.000
<v Speaker 1>I think a lot of people forget that it is

0:42:10.040 --> 0:42:13.480
<v Speaker 1>a twenty six point five percent UH strikeout rate, which

0:42:13.640 --> 0:42:17.040
<v Speaker 1>isn't the elites that you know, the Reminder and Cole

0:42:17.440 --> 0:42:19.360
<v Speaker 1>and that Baruer can have. And yes, he did have

0:42:19.440 --> 0:42:21.840
<v Speaker 1>a thirty four percent mark into US in seventeen, but

0:42:21.880 --> 0:42:24.120
<v Speaker 1>I honestly don't think that he'll have another thirty percent

0:42:24.239 --> 0:42:27.040
<v Speaker 1>strikeout rate in his career. Again, that's the outlier with

0:42:27.480 --> 0:42:30.000
<v Speaker 1>right exactly if you look down, he's basically been between

0:42:30.040 --> 0:42:32.919
<v Speaker 1>twenty six and twenty eight percent strikeout rate and every

0:42:33.000 --> 0:42:36.879
<v Speaker 1>year since except for seventeen when he had that percent

0:42:36.960 --> 0:42:39.320
<v Speaker 1>strikeout right like, that is the outlier. I mean, he

0:42:39.560 --> 0:42:42.719
<v Speaker 1>was absolutely phenomenal in seventeen and there's no debating that.

0:42:42.840 --> 0:42:45.160
<v Speaker 1>But again, his strand rate that year was nearly eighty

0:42:45.200 --> 0:42:48.480
<v Speaker 1>three percent. So um, as great as he was, he's

0:42:48.520 --> 0:42:50.200
<v Speaker 1>a two point to five yar A like his FIP,

0:42:50.280 --> 0:42:53.400
<v Speaker 1>his x FPCR we're all higher. So that really as

0:42:53.440 --> 0:42:55.759
<v Speaker 1>good as Cluber is, I think he's a great picture. Um.

0:42:56.000 --> 0:42:59.200
<v Speaker 1>I do think that his seventeen was somewhat of an outlier,

0:42:59.560 --> 0:43:03.279
<v Speaker 1>but but the endings pitched, those are pretty safe when

0:43:03.320 --> 0:43:05.680
<v Speaker 1>it does come to clublue right, because he's been he's

0:43:05.719 --> 0:43:08.120
<v Speaker 1>been at least two hundred and three endings pitched for

0:43:08.320 --> 0:43:10.400
<v Speaker 1>five seasons in a row. I mean in a in

0:43:10.520 --> 0:43:13.480
<v Speaker 1>an era right now where you know, there's not many

0:43:13.600 --> 0:43:16.840
<v Speaker 1>pitchers who are going two endings pitched. Um. Clober I

0:43:16.920 --> 0:43:19.600
<v Speaker 1>think is probably one of the safer there. So like

0:43:19.719 --> 0:43:22.000
<v Speaker 1>maybe you give him a bump up in points leagues

0:43:22.480 --> 0:43:25.320
<v Speaker 1>where like the volume and the endings pitched and the

0:43:25.440 --> 0:43:30.800
<v Speaker 1>durability is um that obviously helps in Points lee Like

0:43:31.280 --> 0:43:33.719
<v Speaker 1>the best ability for Points League is availability, like you

0:43:33.800 --> 0:43:35.840
<v Speaker 1>really you you need you need those guys, whereas in

0:43:35.920 --> 0:43:38.560
<v Speaker 1>Rhodo it's kind of like how good are you when

0:43:38.600 --> 0:43:40.680
<v Speaker 1>you're actually pitching. It's like on a perse start like

0:43:40.960 --> 0:43:43.360
<v Speaker 1>per game basis, it's a little bit different in that regard.

0:43:43.880 --> 0:43:46.080
<v Speaker 1>So maybe a bump up a little bit in points leagues,

0:43:46.440 --> 0:43:49.360
<v Speaker 1>But I agree, like I think the Astros guys specifically,

0:43:49.719 --> 0:43:52.680
<v Speaker 1>uh and you know now that we're talking to Nick Bauer, Um,

0:43:53.080 --> 0:43:56.319
<v Speaker 1>I think those guys have more upside on a per

0:43:56.440 --> 0:44:01.319
<v Speaker 1>star basis, especially with the strikeouts than a guy like Cluber. Yeah,

0:44:01.920 --> 0:44:04.200
<v Speaker 1>I think that's act Um as well, guys, And I

0:44:04.280 --> 0:44:06.279
<v Speaker 1>think you make really good points where it's not even

0:44:06.800 --> 0:44:09.279
<v Speaker 1>that he's bad. We're Whenny taking right, We're trying to

0:44:09.320 --> 0:44:11.800
<v Speaker 1>break all of these guys down as best as we

0:44:11.960 --> 0:44:14.239
<v Speaker 1>can and try to tell you when to draft them,

0:44:14.320 --> 0:44:16.080
<v Speaker 1>which one to leave on the board, and hope we'll

0:44:16.080 --> 0:44:19.719
<v Speaker 1>still be there around Um, around the turn and come

0:44:19.760 --> 0:44:21.360
<v Speaker 1>back around to you. One of those guys can be

0:44:21.560 --> 0:44:24.040
<v Speaker 1>Louis Sevreno here, and I wanted to get into Louisa

0:44:24.160 --> 0:44:27.440
<v Speaker 1>Luis Sevreno with the Yankees. Keep harping on you, Frank saying, hey,

0:44:27.520 --> 0:44:29.160
<v Speaker 1>we can get Savorrena, we can get Saborrena, we can

0:44:29.160 --> 0:44:31.239
<v Speaker 1>seering on. I feel like I've gotten you there. We're like, cool,

0:44:31.480 --> 0:44:35.160
<v Speaker 1>we'll take Sevarrino. Um, you have Sabreno around number nine

0:44:35.360 --> 0:44:39.040
<v Speaker 1>or ten, Nick, and you have ahead of most Synderguard

0:44:39.120 --> 0:44:40.719
<v Speaker 1>a head of Walker Bueller, So it sounds like you're

0:44:40.719 --> 0:44:44.719
<v Speaker 1>pretty in on Sevorreno as well. Yeah, I would say

0:44:44.960 --> 0:44:48.680
<v Speaker 1>synder Guard, Saberna, Nol are all very very close to me. Um.

0:44:48.880 --> 0:44:51.080
<v Speaker 1>The fact that I just had sever Arena behind Nola

0:44:51.160 --> 0:44:54.920
<v Speaker 1>and then leap frogged both him and synder Guard, it's

0:44:54.960 --> 0:44:57.719
<v Speaker 1>it's such a conundrument. It's really frustrating because obviously you

0:44:57.800 --> 0:44:59.720
<v Speaker 1>have that amazing start of the year that was eighteen

0:44:59.760 --> 0:45:03.320
<v Speaker 1>star arts of sub two ear a k rates, a

0:45:03.840 --> 0:45:06.399
<v Speaker 1>sub one whip. He was going about six and two

0:45:06.480 --> 0:45:10.279
<v Speaker 1>thirds per game at that point, which is phenomenal. And

0:45:10.320 --> 0:45:12.680
<v Speaker 1>then obviously, of course he had that seven start run

0:45:12.719 --> 0:45:14.960
<v Speaker 1>and when he just could not stop letting up fastballs

0:45:15.200 --> 0:45:18.560
<v Speaker 1>sorry home runs off of his fastball, and there was

0:45:18.560 --> 0:45:21.279
<v Speaker 1>a lot of talk about him tipping. There was talk

0:45:21.320 --> 0:45:24.560
<v Speaker 1>about his slider not having the same feel, and the

0:45:24.640 --> 0:45:26.520
<v Speaker 1>more and more I thought about it, I realized that's

0:45:26.520 --> 0:45:31.080
<v Speaker 1>a seven start sample over two seasons that is making

0:45:31.200 --> 0:45:33.560
<v Speaker 1>us move away from Sebrena, and that just doesn't seem

0:45:33.640 --> 0:45:36.120
<v Speaker 1>right to me. And I completely agree, by the way.

0:45:36.160 --> 0:45:38.240
<v Speaker 1>That's kind of why I'm very much back in because

0:45:38.480 --> 0:45:42.680
<v Speaker 1>Nick Greg's also a Yankees fan, So I mean, I'm

0:45:42.680 --> 0:45:44.360
<v Speaker 1>a Yankees fan too, but I don't let it affect

0:45:44.400 --> 0:45:47.440
<v Speaker 1>my now. Listen, I'm I'm a Yankee fan. But Severino

0:45:47.520 --> 0:45:48.880
<v Speaker 1>was just too good in the first half and too

0:45:48.920 --> 0:45:51.840
<v Speaker 1>good the year before to let seven starts kind of

0:45:52.040 --> 0:45:54.000
<v Speaker 1>dictate how we feel about him. And I understand that

0:45:54.280 --> 0:45:55.799
<v Speaker 1>with so many of the hitters we've talked about, we've

0:45:55.800 --> 0:45:57.759
<v Speaker 1>looked at their second half and said, hey, you can

0:45:57.800 --> 0:45:59.200
<v Speaker 1>build upon this and you want to do that severy

0:45:59.280 --> 0:46:00.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, well, you're not to take him as a

0:46:00.520 --> 0:46:03.200
<v Speaker 1>tenth picture off the board. Look, second half performance isn't

0:46:03.400 --> 0:46:06.719
<v Speaker 1>really a direct correlation between like the next year's performance either,

0:46:06.800 --> 0:46:09.040
<v Speaker 1>Like every everyone remembers that because it's the last thing

0:46:09.120 --> 0:46:11.920
<v Speaker 1>that they remember seeing from like a picture or a hitter, like, oh,

0:46:12.040 --> 0:46:13.800
<v Speaker 1>this guy had a great second half, right, it's probably

0:46:13.800 --> 0:46:17.040
<v Speaker 1>gonna carry over. Like No, I actually think that there's

0:46:17.120 --> 0:46:20.440
<v Speaker 1>been studies done and that confirmed that there's really no

0:46:20.560 --> 0:46:23.560
<v Speaker 1>correlation between the thing, you know, second half performance, unless

0:46:23.640 --> 0:46:26.279
<v Speaker 1>unless there's something tangible that's being done right, like like

0:46:26.560 --> 0:46:28.839
<v Speaker 1>like a picture and a different pitch, Like we talked

0:46:28.880 --> 0:46:32.399
<v Speaker 1>about Trevor Bauer a season and a half now, whereas okay,

0:46:32.440 --> 0:46:35.120
<v Speaker 1>maybe over the second half he added a different pitch.

0:46:35.480 --> 0:46:37.520
<v Speaker 1>I know. You know, something that I've read on the

0:46:37.600 --> 0:46:40.880
<v Speaker 1>athletic regarding Jose Kantana was that he changed where he

0:46:40.960 --> 0:46:45.040
<v Speaker 1>was standing on the rubber over his like final twelve

0:46:45.080 --> 0:46:46.600
<v Speaker 1>starts and he had a three six e r A

0:46:46.800 --> 0:46:49.759
<v Speaker 1>during that span. Like, these are tangible things. If if

0:46:49.800 --> 0:46:51.880
<v Speaker 1>a hitter starts hitting the ball harder or lifting the

0:46:51.920 --> 0:46:53.920
<v Speaker 1>ball more in the second half, like that's what you

0:46:53.960 --> 0:46:56.520
<v Speaker 1>can look at. But if not, just okay, every second

0:46:56.600 --> 0:46:58.680
<v Speaker 1>half is created equal and we need to just take

0:46:58.719 --> 0:47:01.600
<v Speaker 1>second half performance and carried over into the next season.

0:47:01.719 --> 0:47:04.319
<v Speaker 1>Like if you look at the skills for Severino over

0:47:04.360 --> 0:47:06.440
<v Speaker 1>the second half, yes, he had a five five seven

0:47:06.520 --> 0:47:09.640
<v Speaker 1>e r A and a four nineties slug against like

0:47:09.760 --> 0:47:12.239
<v Speaker 1>he was getting crushed, but look a little bit deeper

0:47:12.280 --> 0:47:14.400
<v Speaker 1>and the skills were really not all that different between

0:47:14.400 --> 0:47:16.320
<v Speaker 1>the first half and the second half. In fact, is

0:47:16.400 --> 0:47:21.279
<v Speaker 1>Kaper nine went up, Is walksbur nine went down? Is uh?

0:47:21.640 --> 0:47:23.840
<v Speaker 1>You know his bat was three seventy nine, so like

0:47:24.000 --> 0:47:27.399
<v Speaker 1>that was incredibly high, and his strand rate was six,

0:47:28.239 --> 0:47:31.239
<v Speaker 1>which you know league averages like seventy. So there was

0:47:31.239 --> 0:47:34.560
<v Speaker 1>a lot of unluckiness involved with Severino in the it's

0:47:34.600 --> 0:47:36.839
<v Speaker 1>not all you know. I mean, he was still doing

0:47:36.960 --> 0:47:39.520
<v Speaker 1>things that were on his end that we're not great,

0:47:39.600 --> 0:47:41.880
<v Speaker 1>that he you know, should be remedying hopefully in the

0:47:41.960 --> 0:47:44.880
<v Speaker 1>off season. But if you look at the skills, you

0:47:44.920 --> 0:47:47.120
<v Speaker 1>can argue that like he was almost better or at

0:47:47.200 --> 0:47:49.160
<v Speaker 1>least the same that he was in the second half. Um,

0:47:49.880 --> 0:47:51.680
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what are your thoughts and everything I

0:47:51.760 --> 0:47:55.880
<v Speaker 1>just threw out there, Nick because this was good. I mean,

0:47:56.160 --> 0:47:57.799
<v Speaker 1>I like that you focused on the fact that it's

0:47:57.840 --> 0:47:59.960
<v Speaker 1>not just about second half, it's about the tangible thing

0:48:00.040 --> 0:48:02.840
<v Speaker 1>and then seeing a change that we can't apply. I

0:48:03.520 --> 0:48:06.960
<v Speaker 1>would say this about Sebarrino's struggles in the second half. Yeah,

0:48:06.960 --> 0:48:08.799
<v Speaker 1>I was talking about seven starts and his fastball got

0:48:08.880 --> 0:48:11.319
<v Speaker 1>lit up because the slider wasn't as effective. It did

0:48:11.680 --> 0:48:16.319
<v Speaker 1>exposed the actual weakness in Saberino, which is the inconsistency

0:48:16.360 --> 0:48:19.840
<v Speaker 1>of his changeup and not having that strong third option.

0:48:19.960 --> 0:48:22.279
<v Speaker 1>When guys are spitting on the slider and they're not

0:48:22.400 --> 0:48:25.000
<v Speaker 1>chasing out of the zone means that they can just

0:48:25.080 --> 0:48:26.759
<v Speaker 1>sit in that fastball. And that's what happened when he

0:48:26.760 --> 0:48:28.960
<v Speaker 1>allowed all those home runs, and that's why his Babbitt

0:48:29.080 --> 0:48:31.759
<v Speaker 1>was elevated because normally those times when they need to

0:48:31.880 --> 0:48:34.680
<v Speaker 1>be kept honest and not to just sit dead right

0:48:34.719 --> 0:48:37.040
<v Speaker 1>on the fastball, Now they could and they just those

0:48:37.040 --> 0:48:40.080
<v Speaker 1>fastballs are inside the zone. So it's really important to

0:48:40.160 --> 0:48:42.680
<v Speaker 1>see that changeup take the next step, and if it does,

0:48:42.800 --> 0:48:45.839
<v Speaker 1>then he's the top five picture. To me. The fact

0:48:45.920 --> 0:48:48.680
<v Speaker 1>that he hasn't well, he took a major step back

0:48:48.719 --> 0:48:51.560
<v Speaker 1>in two thousand and eighteen. Overall, with that changeup is

0:48:51.640 --> 0:48:55.080
<v Speaker 1>the biggest area of concern. At the same time, we're

0:48:55.120 --> 0:48:58.280
<v Speaker 1>gonna talked about Syndergarten, and I talked about Nola's concerns

0:48:58.320 --> 0:49:01.360
<v Speaker 1>and Carrasco's concerns, and overall, I think he has the

0:49:01.440 --> 0:49:05.399
<v Speaker 1>easiest path to rectifying that and making, you know, having

0:49:05.920 --> 0:49:08.240
<v Speaker 1>that ceiling that we all expect him to have eventually.

0:49:08.600 --> 0:49:10.840
<v Speaker 1>I know it pains you to say, Greg, but remember

0:49:11.040 --> 0:49:15.319
<v Speaker 1>last off season when Severino was actually working with Pedro

0:49:15.400 --> 0:49:18.960
<v Speaker 1>Martinez to work on that changeup. I think he's got

0:49:19.040 --> 0:49:22.920
<v Speaker 1>to do that again, hopefully hopefully or but because I

0:49:23.280 --> 0:49:25.880
<v Speaker 1>know that that was something that he was legitimately consciously

0:49:26.000 --> 0:49:30.800
<v Speaker 1>working on between the at that point twenties sixteen and

0:49:31.280 --> 0:49:33.920
<v Speaker 1>seventeen offseason, I believe it was where he was like

0:49:34.040 --> 0:49:36.239
<v Speaker 1>working with Pedro Martinez on that changeup, and then he

0:49:36.320 --> 0:49:40.080
<v Speaker 1>came out and he broke outen obviously, so we kind

0:49:40.080 --> 0:49:41.680
<v Speaker 1>of gotta get back to there where he's gotta he's

0:49:41.680 --> 0:49:44.640
<v Speaker 1>gotta focus on working on that pitch with the changeup,

0:49:44.680 --> 0:49:47.800
<v Speaker 1>because you know, as I've talked about insistently, you know,

0:49:47.840 --> 0:49:50.239
<v Speaker 1>if you're a starting pitcher and you only rely on

0:49:50.360 --> 0:49:53.359
<v Speaker 1>two pitches, I mean those pitches that are really really

0:49:53.480 --> 0:49:56.360
<v Speaker 1>damn good um or else that's when you end up

0:49:56.400 --> 0:49:58.640
<v Speaker 1>turning into a reliever, right, And that's kind of like

0:49:58.719 --> 0:50:01.359
<v Speaker 1>the route that Saverna was what's going down because they thought,

0:50:01.400 --> 0:50:03.040
<v Speaker 1>all right, maybe he won't be able to develop that

0:50:03.080 --> 0:50:06.040
<v Speaker 1>third pitch. He's got to continue to work on developing

0:50:06.080 --> 0:50:07.799
<v Speaker 1>that third pitch. That's that's really what it comes down

0:50:07.840 --> 0:50:10.480
<v Speaker 1>to in the consistency which Nick spoke, and not to

0:50:10.560 --> 0:50:16.000
<v Speaker 1>be pitches. Sure, I'm sure that I agree, um as

0:50:16.040 --> 0:50:18.680
<v Speaker 1>well Syndergards in this tier. He's spoken a little bit

0:50:18.719 --> 0:50:22.000
<v Speaker 1>about why Syndergard in this tiar would you mind elaborating

0:50:22.480 --> 0:50:25.319
<v Speaker 1>what he could do kind of make the job this year? Sure? Um?

0:50:25.440 --> 0:50:28.680
<v Speaker 1>So this one is really interesting. Um. The pitcher List

0:50:28.719 --> 0:50:31.640
<v Speaker 1>community is huge on Aaron Nola, who I'm a lot

0:50:31.680 --> 0:50:33.160
<v Speaker 1>of guys are very vocal about it. And when I

0:50:33.160 --> 0:50:36.480
<v Speaker 1>put out my rankings, actually, well, I am hold on,

0:50:37.840 --> 0:50:40.200
<v Speaker 1>I have been for years. We have lived every day

0:50:40.239 --> 0:50:41.480
<v Speaker 1>like it's in the little day all right now. I

0:50:42.040 --> 0:50:43.840
<v Speaker 1>told them that they would be upset at one of

0:50:43.880 --> 0:50:45.360
<v Speaker 1>the rankings and that would be synder guard O r

0:50:45.400 --> 0:50:49.040
<v Speaker 1>Nola in it. And it's brought along a long conversation

0:50:49.080 --> 0:50:51.799
<v Speaker 1>inside the discord, which is fascinating, and at the end

0:50:51.800 --> 0:50:54.680
<v Speaker 1>of the day, the reasoning is I expect Syndergarden to

0:50:54.840 --> 0:50:57.520
<v Speaker 1>improve this year. And I put these out at the

0:50:57.520 --> 0:51:01.000
<v Speaker 1>beginning of February suggesting that Syndergard was what Jacob or

0:51:01.040 --> 0:51:03.680
<v Speaker 1>Grom did with fourcing fastballs, that it's elevating them and

0:51:03.719 --> 0:51:06.000
<v Speaker 1>move away from the sinker that is crating this babb

0:51:06.040 --> 0:51:08.560
<v Speaker 1>up issue for him. I wrote about it last year

0:51:08.680 --> 0:51:12.400
<v Speaker 1>at fan Graphs about the big flaw in in no

0:51:12.560 --> 0:51:15.279
<v Speaker 1>Syndergard is the fact that this babbit is elevated for

0:51:15.400 --> 0:51:17.680
<v Speaker 1>a reason. It's not just bad luck that he had

0:51:17.719 --> 0:51:20.680
<v Speaker 1>a three five babbit. It's the fact that he's throwing.

0:51:21.040 --> 0:51:23.040
<v Speaker 1>He's not pitching. He's just throwing these sinkers in the

0:51:23.040 --> 0:51:24.640
<v Speaker 1>middle of the zone and guys are just slapping it

0:51:25.040 --> 0:51:28.799
<v Speaker 1>easily into the outfield. It's it's not a problem for them. Surprisingly,

0:51:28.880 --> 0:51:31.120
<v Speaker 1>given all of his velocity and the way you're supposed

0:51:31.120 --> 0:51:32.840
<v Speaker 1>to pitch with us. He's supposed to go high and

0:51:32.960 --> 0:51:34.359
<v Speaker 1>tight with a pitch and then down in a way

0:51:34.440 --> 0:51:37.240
<v Speaker 1>and move around the zone with your heat, and Syndergrad

0:51:37.320 --> 0:51:41.279
<v Speaker 1>hasn't done it until now. Because I expect him to

0:51:41.320 --> 0:51:44.719
<v Speaker 1>go into four seem remote instead of two steamers and

0:51:44.840 --> 0:51:47.319
<v Speaker 1>elevate the four seamer and what do you know, there

0:51:47.360 --> 0:51:50.080
<v Speaker 1>he is on the mountain spring training and afterwards saying, Yeah,

0:51:50.080 --> 0:51:51.719
<v Speaker 1>I'm moving away from my sinker. I'm going to be

0:51:51.800 --> 0:51:54.360
<v Speaker 1>throwing a lot of four steamers elevated this year. And

0:51:54.440 --> 0:51:57.160
<v Speaker 1>I cannot be more excited about this. I really think

0:51:57.200 --> 0:51:59.840
<v Speaker 1>that this is the year that Syndergard breaks out. I

0:52:00.000 --> 0:52:03.440
<v Speaker 1>know the injury stuff completely and that's the only hesitation

0:52:03.520 --> 0:52:06.399
<v Speaker 1>I have. But here in that confirmation and a guy

0:52:06.560 --> 0:52:10.719
<v Speaker 1>that legitly has thirty strikeout great upside with a low

0:52:10.800 --> 0:52:14.279
<v Speaker 1>walk rates and match it with a better Mets team

0:52:14.320 --> 0:52:17.600
<v Speaker 1>behind him, Now, this just screams the year I've been

0:52:17.640 --> 0:52:20.160
<v Speaker 1>waiting for Noah synder Guard, and it makes me feel

0:52:20.160 --> 0:52:23.360
<v Speaker 1>a little bit better about that early February ranking. I'm

0:52:23.360 --> 0:52:26.600
<v Speaker 1>really pumped for Thor this year, Right, Thor making a

0:52:26.680 --> 0:52:29.880
<v Speaker 1>bit of a jump like Jacob Degram did last year. Yes,

0:52:29.920 --> 0:52:32.800
<v Speaker 1>Aaron Nola, but we may have an opportunity for Syndergard

0:52:32.800 --> 0:52:34.200
<v Speaker 1>to be the guy we thought he was gonna be

0:52:34.320 --> 0:52:35.719
<v Speaker 1>last year, Right, Like, I don't I don't think you're

0:52:35.719 --> 0:52:37.799
<v Speaker 1>asking a Synderguard to make too much of a jump

0:52:37.880 --> 0:52:40.359
<v Speaker 1>or ask him to do something, uh, he's ultimately never

0:52:40.600 --> 0:52:43.080
<v Speaker 1>done before. But I know we're running at a time

0:52:43.080 --> 0:52:44.759
<v Speaker 1>with you Nickers. Ventru will join us in an hour

0:52:44.840 --> 0:52:46.680
<v Speaker 1>or two. Before I let you go, I gotta ask

0:52:46.719 --> 0:52:49.680
<v Speaker 1>you about two more guys ones Walker Bueller, who seems

0:52:49.719 --> 0:52:52.640
<v Speaker 1>to be in this mix with Crassco, with Syndergard, with Severina,

0:52:52.719 --> 0:52:55.560
<v Speaker 1>with Nola and Bower. You haven't named him yet? How

0:52:55.600 --> 0:52:59.080
<v Speaker 1>come no? I haven't. Okay, there there's there's a term

0:52:59.239 --> 0:53:03.160
<v Speaker 1>I have called gerritis, which is which is about just

0:53:03.560 --> 0:53:06.799
<v Speaker 1>how the Dodgers treat their rotation, sometimes in the pen

0:53:06.880 --> 0:53:09.399
<v Speaker 1>and sometimes they're in the Sorgue rotation. Sometimes they're gonna

0:53:09.760 --> 0:53:11.719
<v Speaker 1>be injured for a moment and then come back. And

0:53:12.360 --> 0:53:14.920
<v Speaker 1>they're also going to not to let their young pictures

0:53:15.000 --> 0:53:19.640
<v Speaker 1>go Awhile, I know the argument about about Bueler is

0:53:19.680 --> 0:53:21.560
<v Speaker 1>that and well, it's not a hundred thirty seven innings.

0:53:21.920 --> 0:53:25.040
<v Speaker 1>It's also the postseason and the minor leagues that essentially

0:53:25.040 --> 0:53:27.359
<v Speaker 1>equates about hundred seventy last year, which means that maybe

0:53:27.400 --> 0:53:29.880
<v Speaker 1>he could go two hundred. I really don't expect that.

0:53:30.000 --> 0:53:31.800
<v Speaker 1>I think the Dodgers are going to limit him to

0:53:31.880 --> 0:53:34.440
<v Speaker 1>a multos hundred eighty and then save him for that

0:53:34.520 --> 0:53:37.840
<v Speaker 1>postseason run after that um So that inherently makes me

0:53:38.480 --> 0:53:40.560
<v Speaker 1>feel like he has a cap ceiling. And then on

0:53:40.680 --> 0:53:43.200
<v Speaker 1>top of that, he only has eleven swing strike rate.

0:53:43.320 --> 0:53:47.360
<v Speaker 1>Now that should be not totally representative of a strikeout

0:53:47.400 --> 0:53:50.600
<v Speaker 1>because he is a forcing fastball guy, and generally you

0:53:50.760 --> 0:53:54.239
<v Speaker 1>see guys that focus on forcing fastballs have a lower

0:53:54.320 --> 0:53:58.440
<v Speaker 1>overall swinging strict rate but still get a higher strikeout. Right,

0:53:58.480 --> 0:54:01.319
<v Speaker 1>then that would say just because as he essentially gets

0:54:01.320 --> 0:54:03.400
<v Speaker 1>the high fastball leaden counts and that's how he gets it.

0:54:04.120 --> 0:54:08.360
<v Speaker 1>I don't love that he doesn't have this unreal breaking

0:54:08.400 --> 0:54:10.080
<v Speaker 1>ball on top of the fourth seamer, but I love

0:54:10.160 --> 0:54:12.680
<v Speaker 1>his stuff. I think that he's He's going to be

0:54:12.760 --> 0:54:15.160
<v Speaker 1>a very good picture for you. It's just the I

0:54:15.239 --> 0:54:18.759
<v Speaker 1>see that capped upside in innings and I don't really

0:54:18.800 --> 0:54:21.440
<v Speaker 1>think he can take that leap to strike out rate

0:54:21.640 --> 0:54:24.640
<v Speaker 1>I think is maybe slightly high, but he should be

0:54:24.760 --> 0:54:27.279
<v Speaker 1>very good. I have him at I guess now it's

0:54:27.480 --> 0:54:30.959
<v Speaker 1>thirteen uh in my ranks, Frank, I guess your walker

0:54:31.000 --> 0:54:33.239
<v Speaker 1>Bueler comments on the other side, and we're losing Nick

0:54:33.560 --> 0:54:35.280
<v Speaker 1>A bad time to tell Nick that I drafted Walker

0:54:35.320 --> 0:54:37.719
<v Speaker 1>Bueler over Syindergarten, the Great Fantasy BA probably knew that,

0:54:38.040 --> 0:54:41.880
<v Speaker 1>already knew that, Frank, don't worry. One more Dodger to

0:54:41.920 --> 0:54:45.360
<v Speaker 1>ask you about. And that's Clayton Kershaw, who just continues

0:54:45.440 --> 0:54:48.719
<v Speaker 1>to drop and drop and drop, and good for good reason. Right,

0:54:48.920 --> 0:54:51.680
<v Speaker 1>he's just not healthy. What at what point do you

0:54:51.880 --> 0:54:54.440
<v Speaker 1>take Clayton Kersha? What point you can cause Martinez too?

0:54:54.480 --> 0:54:56.800
<v Speaker 1>I guess this is the this is the thing that

0:54:56.920 --> 0:55:00.239
<v Speaker 1>I feel like, Okay, surprised. I need to say, you

0:55:00.400 --> 0:55:02.160
<v Speaker 1>can do whatever you want to your own team, and

0:55:02.280 --> 0:55:05.080
<v Speaker 1>you just don't need to bring that juju around like

0:55:05.239 --> 0:55:07.560
<v Speaker 1>you can win your league without feeling like you need

0:55:07.640 --> 0:55:11.840
<v Speaker 1>to get the possible value that Kershaw would bring. So

0:55:12.320 --> 0:55:15.320
<v Speaker 1>for me, I'm just I guess until he gets like

0:55:15.400 --> 0:55:18.919
<v Speaker 1>the forty starters or maybe am I really going onto

0:55:19.000 --> 0:55:22.400
<v Speaker 1>Kershaw when I start? You know, if if I if

0:55:22.400 --> 0:55:24.919
<v Speaker 1>I feel really comfortable with my staff and I feel

0:55:24.920 --> 0:55:27.000
<v Speaker 1>like I got two or three excellent starters that I

0:55:27.040 --> 0:55:28.920
<v Speaker 1>have such a high floor with, fine, yeah, sure I'll

0:55:28.920 --> 0:55:30.840
<v Speaker 1>go after Kershaw and really seal the deal maybe with that,

0:55:31.400 --> 0:55:33.120
<v Speaker 1>but I'm just not touching it. I think there are

0:55:33.120 --> 0:55:34.600
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people that are taking chances when they

0:55:34.600 --> 0:55:37.920
<v Speaker 1>don't need to. With Kershaw once again, and it's Nick

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<v Speaker 1>Pollock at picture List. Nick tell everybody all the great

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<v Speaker 1>stuff and can get a picture list. Yeah. We do

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<v Speaker 1>daily roundups of every starting picture and every hitting performance

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<v Speaker 1>you should know about from the day before during the

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<v Speaker 1>regular season. Obviously follows the twitter at picture lists for

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<v Speaker 1>a ton of pitching gifts, the Nasti's gifts every single day,

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<v Speaker 1>uh and Nasty's pictures from the day before. Join us

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<v Speaker 1>on Patreon, Patreon dot com slash picture lists, Join our discord,

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<v Speaker 1>the best community out there. There you go, It's Nick

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<v Speaker 1>Paul come back to you man. This is when I'm blasts,

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<v Speaker 1>all right. Our number two up next the Closer joins us.

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<v Speaker 1>Stick around four for your BFFs right after this