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Speaker 2: Once again that the people who are one hundred percent

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Speaker 1: Not unless private citizens have been to fame, that's their right.

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Speaker 5: It seems to me that President Trump focused a lot

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Speaker 14: Yesterday under oath, you told my colleagues on the Senate

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Speaker 12: My purpose in going down there had nothing to do

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Speaker 15: The without objection.

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Speaker 7: As you told my colleagues.

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Speaker 7: Did it have anything to do with vaccines? Oh it

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Speaker 7: Again. Any anti vaccer help finance your trip.

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Speaker 7: Let me, let me just go on. I just want to.

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Speaker 14: in October of twenty nineteen, the CDC declared a measles

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Speaker 7: I will introduce that letter into the record with that objection.

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Speaker 14: So, as Samoa was trying to contain the outbreak, you

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Speaker 7: And the status attached to.

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Speaker 14: It, people will believe him, people will believe Robert Kennedy

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Speaker 7: So your name and your profile helped fuel a Measle's outbreak.

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Speaker 14: You scared people from taking a vaccine, it slowed the

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Speaker 7: You've taken no.

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Speaker 14: Responsibility thus far, and if an outbreak occurs in the

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Speaker 14: use your role as secretary to spread dangerous misinformation. So

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Speaker 14: one incident, from my perspective, disqualifies you from holding any

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Speaker 12: You should look at their conflicts, So you should look

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Speaker 14: Seventy five Nobel Prize winners, and by the way of

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Speaker 14: said the same thing about your qualifications, saying to me,

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Speaker 14: So that's the basis of my of my reservations about you,

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Speaker 13: Ciner Murkowsky and let me compliment Mollin and Murkowski. They've

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Speaker 4: Please, thank you, mister Chairman.

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Speaker 16: And I think these are exactly the types of forums

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Speaker 15: Speak it has been.

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Speaker 16: There's been considerable discussion here about many issues, certainly a

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Speaker 16: lot about vaccines. I care deeply about making sure that

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Speaker 16: how we disseminate them is particularly important in a very

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Speaker 3: You have experience there. You understand that.

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Speaker 16: I am particularly attracted by the focus on chronic diseases.

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Speaker 12: Thank you, senitor, and you know this is an issue

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Speaker 15: It's always been a priority for me.

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Speaker 12: I spent twenty percent of my career working on Native issues.

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Speaker 15: Nothing's gotten better.

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Speaker 12: I'm going to bring in a Native at the assistant

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Speaker 15: I'd like to get them actually.

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Speaker 12: Designated as a assistant secretary for the first time in

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Speaker 12: I've been up to with a gwich And representing the

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Speaker 12: Government needs to pay attention to financing transportation the unusual

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Speaker 13: Thank you, Senator Murkowski says the record for going over

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Speaker 17: Sorry, good morning, Thank you miss to chair mister Kennedy.

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Speaker 17: I was struck by your comments during our meeting last week.

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Speaker 5: You've been listening to Robert F. Kennedy Junior's confirmation hearing.

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Speaker 5: of course, is President Trump's nominee to be the Director

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Speaker 5: of National Intelligence.

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Speaker 18: Question.

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Speaker 19: Are there other Senators who would like to follow up question?

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Speaker 7: Senator King?

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Speaker 20: I'd like to follow up on my line of questioning

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Speaker 20: about Edward Stowden and understand how you analyzed the facts

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Speaker 20: leading up to your twenty twenty bill providing him with

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Speaker 20: a pardon. There was the House Committee report, which granted

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Speaker 20: was redacted, but under the heading what damage did it cause?

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Speaker 20: For five and a half pages of redacted material, I

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Speaker 20: would have thought that would raise a question in your mind. Secondly,

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Speaker 20: Edward Snowden, they are about twenty countries that don't have

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Speaker 20: extradition treaties with the US. He chose to go to

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Speaker 20: Russia become a Russian citizen. Given that information, how did

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Speaker 20: you decide to introduce a bill providing him with a pardon.

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Speaker 20: Introducing a bill in the United States Congress is not

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Speaker 20: the same as a tweet or a commentary on a podcast.

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Speaker 20: I'm concerned about your a parent lack of interest in

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Speaker 20: the scope of Edward Stoden's traitorous activities.

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Speaker 21: As Senator, I've answered this some version of this question

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Speaker 21: many times in this hearing already. My foremost concern has been,

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Speaker 21: remains and will continue to be in a holding my

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Speaker 21: oath to the Constitution to support and defend American's Fourth

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Speaker 21: Amendment constitutional rights. If confirmed as Director of National Intelligence,

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Speaker 21: I'm committed to ensuring that we protect our nation's secrets

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Speaker 21: by implementing a number of actions I've outlined so that

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Speaker 21: those who have concerns about programs within our intelligence community

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Speaker 21: that we don't have another snowden like leak, and they

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Speaker 21: are able to raise those concerns either directly with Congress

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Speaker 21: or through any one of a number of legal paths

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Speaker 21: that are available. And I think it's also important and

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Speaker 21: in line with many of the bipartisan concerns I've heard

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Speaker 21: from this committee in security classification, security clearance, in classification reform,

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Speaker 21: in narrowing severely those who have access to the most

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Speaker 22: So, Sir Sirer Bennett, thank you, Thank you for your generosity,

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Speaker 22: mister Chair and letting us have a second question. Thank

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Speaker 22: you again for hanging in there with this discussion.

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Speaker 15: Colonel Gabbard.

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Speaker 22: The House Intelligence Committee review of the Snowden disclosures found

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Speaker 22: not only that he was a trader, but that since

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Speaker 22: Snowden's arrival in Moscow, he has had and continues to

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Speaker 22: have contact with Russian intelligence servants services. You can see

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Speaker 22: the deep concern on both sides of the aisle here.

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Speaker 22: You had in your opening statement all kinds of complaints

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Speaker 22: about former officials and the intelligence agencies, the United States press,

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Speaker 22: the journalists, the media, democrats.

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Speaker 5: All right, let's get you back to RFK Robert F.

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Speaker 5: Kennedy Junior's confirmation hearing. Let's listen in this.

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Speaker 17: Week and the week before regarding fundraising that you are

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Speaker 17: currently doing through your presidential without objection.

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Speaker 11: And finally, we.

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Speaker 4: Want to ask you.

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Speaker 17: I have a you said to You were on a

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Speaker 17: show on February twenty six, twenty twenty one, an interview

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Speaker 17: with doctor Judy Mikovitz, where you said the following and

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Speaker 17: I quote, we should not be giving black people the

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Speaker 17: same vaccine schedule that's given to whites because their immune

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Speaker 17: system is better than ours. Can you please explain what

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Speaker 17: you meant.

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Speaker 12: There's a series of studies, I think most of them

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Speaker 12: Poland that show that the particular anagens that blacks have

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Speaker 12: a much stronger reaction. There's differences in reaction to different

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Speaker 12: products by different rates.

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Speaker 17: So I have seventeen seconds list let me just ask

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Speaker 17: you then, so what different vaccine schedule would you say

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Speaker 17: I should have received that? What different vaccine schedule should

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Speaker 17: I receive?

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Speaker 12: I mean, the pollen article suggests that blacks need fewer antigens.

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Speaker 4: This is so dang.

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Speaker 17: Mister Kennedy, with all due respect, that is so dangerous.

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Speaker 17: Your voice would be a voice that parents would listen to.

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Speaker 4: That is so dangerous. I will be give your.

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Speaker 17: Nomination because your views are dangerous to our state, into

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Speaker 17: our country.

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Speaker 12: I mean, do you think science is dangerous?

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Speaker 18: Editor?

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Speaker 15: This is published peer reviewed studies.

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Speaker 13: Senator Collins, who would have been here the whole time,

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Speaker 13: but she was in an Intel committee.

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Speaker 3: Senator Collins, thank you.

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Speaker 23: Mister chairman, mister Kennedy, welcome. First of all, I agree

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Speaker 23: with you that there needs to be more focus on

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Speaker 23: chronic diseases like diabetes.

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Speaker 3: Like Alzheimer's.

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Speaker 23: But it concerns me when I read a quote from

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Speaker 23: you that says, I'm going to say to NIH scientists,

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Speaker 23: God bless you you all, thank you for your public service.

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Speaker 23: We're going to give infectious disease diseases a break for

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Speaker 23: about eight years.

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Speaker 7: Don't we need to do both?

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Speaker 12: Don't absolutely, Senator. The problem is there's been an imballance.

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Speaker 12: We've devoted all of these dollars to infectious disease and

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Speaker 12: to drug development to make ANIH and incubator for the

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Speaker 12: pharmaceutical industry, and very little to chronic disease. But chronic

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Speaker 12: disease is ninety two percent of deaths in our country.

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Speaker 12: It's nine out of every ten dollars we spent on

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Speaker 12: our budget. Why aren't we devoting at least equivalent studies

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Speaker 12: to determine the ideology of our chronic disease? It just

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Speaker 12: seems like common sense to me.

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Speaker 23: I would point out that in many cases it's Congress

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Speaker 23: rather than AHHS who sets the funding levels for various diseases.

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Speaker 12: But and I aged asides as panels that decide who

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Speaker 12: gets funding, not Congress.

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Speaker 23: I want to share with you a discussion that I

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Speaker 23: had with the main pediatric nurse practitioner. She raised the

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Speaker 23: concern that if people are discouraged from getting their children vaccinated,

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Speaker 23: we will lose the herd immunity in a classroom, and

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Speaker 23: that means that a child who may be immunos suppressed

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Speaker 23: and cannot get a vaccine are at risk of being

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Speaker 23: in a classroom with an unvaccinated child and thus at

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Speaker 23: risk of getting the infectious disease because we've lost the

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Speaker 23: herd immunity. What would be your response to that.

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Speaker 12: My response is that vaccine uptake for the COVID vaccine,

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Speaker 12: for example, is down to twenty three percent, and all

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Speaker 12: vaccines are dropping and they're not doing They're doing that

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Speaker 12: because people don't believe the government anymore. We need good

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Speaker 12: science and I'm going to bring that in. I'm going

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Speaker 12: to restore trust and that will restore a vaccine uptake.

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Speaker 23: Well, you're certainly correct about what happened with the COVID vaccine,

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Speaker 23: but let me switch to the polio vaccine.

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Speaker 5: All right, let's get you back over to Tulsi Gabbart's

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Speaker 5: confirmation hearing.

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Speaker 24: Let's listen in in order to overthrow the Syrian government.

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Speaker 24: And in twenty nineteen on the Democratic presidential debate stage,

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Speaker 24: you said of President Trump, this is a quote. This

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Speaker 24: current president is continuing to betray us. We were supposed

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Speaker 24: to be going after el Qaeda. But over years now,

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Speaker 24: not only have we k not gone after al Qaeda,

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Speaker 24: our president is supporting al Qaeda. So I'm interested to

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Speaker 24: hear what was your goal in saying these things and

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Speaker 24: did you consider before saying them the motives of Iran

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Speaker 24: in Russia, what their motives might have been before making

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Speaker 24: these claims.

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Speaker 21: Senator, As someone who enlisted in the military specifically because

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Speaker 21: of al Qaeda's terrorist attack on nine to eleven, and

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Speaker 21: committing myself in my life to doing what I could

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Speaker 21: to defeat these terrorists, it was shocking and a betrayal

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Speaker 21: to me and every person who was killed on nine

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Speaker 21: to eleven, their families, and my brothers and sisters in uniform.

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Speaker 21: When as a member of Congress, I learned about President

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Speaker 21: Obama's dual programs that he had begun really to overthrow

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Speaker 21: the regime of Syria and being willing to through the

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Speaker 21: CIA's Timber Sycamore program that has now been made public

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Speaker 21: of working with and arming and equipping al Qaeda in

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Speaker 21: an effort to overthrow that regime, starting yet another regime

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Speaker 21: change war in the Middle East. DoD train and equip program,

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Speaker 21: again begun under President Obama, is widely been known, looked at,

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Speaker 21: and studied that ultimately resulted in over half a billion

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Speaker 21: dollars being used to train who they called moderate rebels

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Speaker 21: but were actually fighters working with and aligned with al

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Speaker 21: Qaeda's affiliate on the ground in Syria, all to move

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Speaker 21: forward with their regime change and not acknowledging what was

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Speaker 21: obvious at the time and what has unfortunately borne true,

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Speaker 21: which was that a regime change war in Syria, much

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Speaker 21: like the regime change wars an Iraq, the toppling of

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Speaker 21: Gaddafi and Mubarak, while these are all dictators, would likely

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Speaker 21: result in the rise of Islamist extremists like al Qaeda

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Speaker 21: taking power. I shed no tears for the fall of

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Speaker 21: the Asad regime, but today we have an Islamist extremist

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Speaker 21: who is now in charge of Syria, as I said,

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Speaker 21: who danced on the streets to celebrate the nine to

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Speaker 21: eleven attack, who ruled over it, lived with an Islamist

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Speaker 21: extremist governance, and who has already begun to persecute and

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Speaker 21: kill and arrest religious minorities like Christians in Syria.

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Speaker 4: I understood why that should be acceptable.

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Speaker 21: To anyone is beyond me.

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Speaker 24: It should certainly I appreciate. I appreciate your answer, and

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Speaker 24: thank you. My concern has to do with the tendency

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Speaker 24: to repeat Russian and Syrian and even in some cases

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Speaker 24: I think we'll get into in the closed session Iranian

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Speaker 24: information and to discount what comes from our intelligence community.

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Speaker 21: Senator, every American deserves to know that people in our

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Speaker 21: own government were providing support to our sworn enemy al Qaeda.

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Speaker 21: That should not be acceptable by anyone.

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Speaker 19: Thank Thank you, Senator Kelliam Scabbard. In conclusion, and this

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Speaker 19: Senator order.

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Speaker 25: Yeah, thank you, mister chairman. You know, one of the

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Speaker 25: things I love about this committee, and I know folks

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Speaker 25: that are here from miss Gabbart may not fully real,

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Speaker 25: but this has always been a bipartisan committee. And you

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Speaker 25: know my friend Richard Burr who said we always kind

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Speaker 25: of followed the truth. One of the things I was

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Speaker 25: always proud of of and the very challenging Russian investigation

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Speaker 25: was you know, people will come in they didn't know

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Speaker 25: whether the staffer was a Democrat or Republican because they

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Speaker 25: were all looking out for the same thing. Just Gabbart,

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Speaker 25: I support and commend you for your service. But we

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Speaker 25: have heard this.

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Speaker 3: Morning taking.

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Speaker 25: Some individuals advice on chemical attacks, not taking American intelligence

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Speaker 25: community that, as we subsequently discovered, had if he ties.

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Speaker 3: Not enough due diligence.

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Speaker 25: We've heard this morning on your trip to Lebanon that

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Speaker 25: you weren't fully aware that the folks wered we paid

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Speaker 25: for the trip had these relations and ties to this

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Speaker 25: Syrian party. I know, I've asked and you and I

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Speaker 25: understand on the trip that you said you met with

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Speaker 25: sheer religious figures and you didn't know who were there,

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Speaker 25: who they were, I could, I can understand that, or

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Speaker 25: I can't imagine sheer religious figures that in the back

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Speaker 25: of valley that didn't have ties to HESBA law. And

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Speaker 25: we can have a difference of opinion on TikTok, Chairman,

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Speaker 25: and I feel very strongly that it is a national

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Speaker 25: security threat.

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Speaker 3: On seven o two.

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Speaker 25: Tuesday, I thought you answered Senator Wide and you're in

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Speaker 25: favor of a warrant Senator Cornyn and you backed off

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Speaker 25: of that.

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Speaker 3: And then on on Edward Snowden.

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Speaker 25: You won't back off of Brave, you won't back off

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Speaker 25: your legislation, you won't call him a trader. And I

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Speaker 25: think again about this is being watched by our allies

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Speaker 25: around the world.

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Speaker 3: I think Artie's been tweeting about it today, blasting me.

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Speaker 15: And the men and women of.

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Speaker 3: The intelligence community.

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Speaker 25: I don't know how they're going to have confidence that

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Speaker 25: if some under your leadership, if somebody else stepped out,

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Speaker 25: that you wouldn't take the same position that you've not

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Speaker 25: locked away from on Mistress Noden. So, I guess my

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Speaker 25: last question, and this was one I think was in

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Speaker 25: some of the press, and I believe you and your

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Speaker 25: husband took a trip to Rome last summer, and you

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Speaker 25: know I'm not talking about the conference. I think you

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Speaker 25: didn't ask who paid for the trip. I just want

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Speaker 25: to get this off the record right now, not if

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Speaker 25: you and your husband reimbursed, but did you pay for

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Speaker 25: the trip in the outset or.

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Speaker 21: There was a nonprofit organization that was coordinating with the

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Speaker 21: Vatican to set up this meeting that was centered around

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Speaker 21: miss peace and security interests in the West.

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Speaker 3: I'm not going to go into that.

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Speaker 25: I guess one of the trusts makes you so you

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Speaker 25: didn't understand your trip was paid for by a my name,

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Speaker 25: Pierre L. Luvarier and the Clementi Foundation.

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Speaker 21: The nonprofit. Okay, I understanding this was there an extensive reputee.

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Speaker 3: For the trip.

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Speaker 25: Mister LOUIVI has enormous ties to Constantine Melil I'm mis

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Speaker 25: pronouncing his name, But who is somebody that America has

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Speaker 25: sanctioned im measure? We can get into this in the

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Speaker 25: classified hearing. But again, the due diligence that's required before

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Speaker 25: you take these trips or make these assumptions is something

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Speaker 25: that I find very troubling. Thank you, mister Chairman.

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Speaker 19: Thank you, Senator Warner. I would also note that same

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Speaker 19: New York Times story reported that there's no indication that

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Speaker 19: Miss Gabbard did anything wrong on that trip. Miss Gabbard,

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Speaker 19: thank you for your time and for your testimony. Thank you,

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Speaker 19: most importantly for your service to our nation. As I

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Speaker 19: said at the outset, it's no secret that this nomination

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Speaker 19: has generated more attention and interest than most nominees before this. Here,

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Speaker 19: before this committee, we have received a large number of statements, letters,

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Speaker 19: and other such materials in support of and in opposition

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Speaker 19: to Miss gabbage nomination. I will submit all of those

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Speaker 19: for the record for the benefit of Senators. It is

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Speaker 19: also my intention to hold a committee vote on Miss

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Speaker 19: Gabbridge's nomination as soon as possible. Therefore, for planning purposes.

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Speaker 19: Any Senator who wishes to submit questions for the record

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Speaker 19: after today's hearing, please do so by close of business tomorrow,

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Speaker 19: that is Friday, January thirty, first, five pm Eastern time. Now,

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Speaker 19: let me explain what will happen next. Committee security and

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Speaker 19: missus Gabbard's security will escort her and her immediate party

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Speaker 19: out of this room through the door behind me. Everyone

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Speaker 19: else will remain seated in this room. The Capitol Police

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Speaker 19: will secure that door, so no one else leaves this

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Speaker 19: room until Miss Gabbard has reached her break room. In

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Speaker 19: preparation for the closed session, we will convene in that

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Speaker 19: closed session and approximately thirty mine minutes at one ten pm,

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Speaker 19: this open session is adjourned.

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Speaker 5: So the confirmation hearing involving Tulci Gabbertt, who is President

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Speaker 5: Trump's nominee to be Director of National Intelligence, just wrapping up.

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Speaker 5: You just heard the senator say that they are going

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Speaker 5: to reconvene in private session in about thirty minutes and

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Speaker 5: a vote on her nomination could come.

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Speaker 15: In short order.

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Speaker 5: In the meantime.

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Speaker 8: Robert F.

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Speaker 5: Kennedy Junior, continuing his second day of confirmation hearings, let's

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Speaker 5: continue to listen into that at.

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Speaker 12: The science and get iom involved. The National Academy of Sciences.

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Speaker 12: They're the ultimate arbiter of safety.

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Speaker 15: Oh what was it?

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Speaker 12: And you know one of the things we need to do,

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Speaker 12: I think is a subject that we haven't talked about here.

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Speaker 15: Why don't we know what's causing this epidemic?

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Speaker 12: Why hasn't the CDC been looking at other hypotheses determine

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Speaker 12: the ideology of why we've had this dramatic thousand increase

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Speaker 12: in this disease that is destroying our kids is probably

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Speaker 12: the biggest issue. Why don't we know the answer after

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Speaker 12: thirty years of a steady rise.

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Speaker 5: The other high profile hearing right now on Capitol Hill

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Speaker 5: involving Cash Betel, President Trump's nominee for FBI director, he

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Speaker 5: is back and let's listen in.

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Speaker 4: I did not participate in any of those DJs, sir.

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Speaker 26: That's a yes or no question. Are you aware of

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Speaker 26: any plans or discussions to punish in any way, including

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Speaker 26: termination FBI agents or personnel associated with Trump investigations?

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Speaker 4: So I am not aware of thank you, senator.

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Speaker 26: There is no evidence of wrongdoing by FBI employees involved

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Speaker 26: in these investigations. If you do pursue investigations of those involved.

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Speaker 26: Will you commit to using standard processes, including a standard

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Speaker 26: review by the FBI Inspections Division and the Inspector General.

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Speaker 4: Senator, I will honor all of those review processes. You

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Speaker 4: will honor those review processes, Yes, sir.

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Speaker 26: If these are actions that the FBI employees, If there

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Speaker 26: are actions against FBI employees that do not follow those

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Speaker 26: standards process that happen before you get in, will you

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Speaker 26: commit to reversing any decision prior to your arrival so

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Speaker 26: that those standard processes and the standard review by the

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Speaker 26: FBI Inspections Division will take place.

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Speaker 4: I don't know what's.

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Speaker 1: Going on right now over there, but I'm committed to you,

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Speaker 1: Senator and your colleagues that I will honor the internal

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Speaker 1: review process of the FBI.

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Speaker 26: Have you made any commitments to anyone about pursuing any

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Speaker 26: investigations or targets if you are FBI.

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Speaker 4: Director only violent criminals and terrorists.

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Speaker 26: Have you had any conversations with anyone on the transition

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Speaker 26: team about pursuing any investigations or.

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Speaker 4: Targets only following the Constitution? Again?

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Speaker 15: Are you certain that.

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Speaker 4: I have told people on the have you made.

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Speaker 26: Are you certain have you had any conversations with anyone

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Speaker 26: on the train transition team about pursuing any investigations or targets.

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Speaker 1: Senator, it's the best of my recollection. I've only said

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Speaker 1: I will use the Constitution.

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Speaker 26: Have you had any have you discussed specific investigations or

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Speaker 26: targets you would pursue as FBI director with the President

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Speaker 26: of the United States?

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Speaker 1: Centator, to the best of my recollection, no, are you certain,

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Speaker 1: to the best of my recollection.

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Speaker 26: No, According to public reports, you were subpoenaed by the

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Speaker 26: federal prosecutors to testify as a witness before the grand

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Speaker 26: jury investigation investigating the Maralago classified Documents case, and you

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Speaker 26: testified before the grand jury.

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Speaker 15: Correct, Yes, sir.

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Speaker 26: And when you were before the grand jury, you pled

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Speaker 26: the Fifth on the basis of self incrimination.

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Speaker 4: Corrected.

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Speaker 1: I utilized my constitutional rights during that process with the

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Speaker 1: advice and consent of Council, and appeared before that grand jury.

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Speaker 4: I will take that as a yes.

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Speaker 26: And you are familiar I imagine with section six zero

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Speaker 26: zero two of Title eighteen.

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Speaker 4: Off the top of my head, Senator.

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Speaker 26: Well, section six zero zero two is the immunity statue.

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Speaker 26: Whenever a witness refuses to testify or provide other information

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Speaker 26: before grand jury. Based upon the privilege against self incrimination,

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Speaker 26: the court can order the witness to testify. The witness

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Speaker 26: must comply with the order, but they receive immunity, which

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Speaker 26: means that no testimony or any other information provided before

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Speaker 26: the grand jury can be used against them in any

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Speaker 26: against them in any criminal proceeding. You were compelled to

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Speaker 26: testify as a witness in the mara Alago Classified document case.

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Speaker 26: Did you participate in any criminal conduct involved in that case?

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Speaker 1: Involved in which the mar Alago classified Documents case? Yes, no,

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Speaker 1: I testified through compulsion by court order.

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Speaker 26: You received immunity for providing information that was self incriminating.

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Speaker 26: Do you remember the name of the prosecutor who questioned.

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Speaker 4: You there were a multiple center? I do not.

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Speaker 26: Was it one of the people or any of the

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Speaker 26: people that were fired this past week?

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Speaker 4: I have no ideas.

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Speaker 7: Are you certain you're under oath?

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Speaker 1: I'm aware that I'm under oath, Senator, and I have

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Speaker 1: no idea. And I did not participate in the removal

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Speaker 1: any DOJ prosecutor.

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Speaker 26: What was the information you provided that you received an immunity.

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Speaker 4: For, Senator?

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Speaker 1: I would love my grand jury testimony to be released.

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Speaker 1: But as you know, that grand jury testimony has been

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Speaker 1: sealed by the Department of Justice and I'm not allowed

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Speaker 1: to discuss it here.

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Speaker 26: Well, I find it troubling that you do not know

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Speaker 26: the law here, and let me tell you what the

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Speaker 26: law is. Rule six governs grand jury proceedings. Under Rule

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Speaker 26: six E, grand jurors, court reporters, and prosecutors are bound

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Speaker 26: to secrecy, but witnesses are not bound by secrecy. You

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Speaker 26: were a witness in the classified documents case. You are

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Speaker 26: not bound by secrecy. You can tell us everything that

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Speaker 26: happened in that room and everything you testified about. I'll

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Speaker 26: ask you again, what information did you provide to the

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Speaker 26: grand jury.

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Speaker 1: In this we are agreement center get my grand jury testimony.

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Speaker 1: I want it made public. I asked the Department of

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Speaker 1: Justice why public?

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Speaker 26: There is no legal so there is no legal bound

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Speaker 26: against you telling us right now what you what you

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Speaker 26: testify to?

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Speaker 4: When I asked for my transcript to be released.

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Speaker 26: Sir, did you or did you not commit a crime?

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Speaker 4: Senator, I did not commit a crime.

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Speaker 26: Then why won't you tell us what you testified to?

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Speaker 1: Because it occurred over the course of three weeks, I

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Speaker 1: don't have the ability to recall everything I testified to.

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Speaker 4: But I'm asking you.

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Speaker 26: To witnessing the President of the United States declassifying documents.

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Speaker 1: Senator, what I testify to is best captured by that transcript.

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Speaker 26: So you're not willing to tell Congress, after making many

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Speaker 26: pleasures today about transparency, whether or not you testified to

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Speaker 26: witnessing the President of the United States to classify documents.

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Speaker 26: In the name of all the values you have said today,

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Speaker 26: did you or did you not test to witnessing the

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Speaker 26: President United States to classify documents?

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Speaker 1: I testified accordingly and under oath, and I encourage you

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Speaker 1: to get that transmit.

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Speaker 26: And by the law of our land, you are free

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Speaker 26: to tell people. What are you hiding from? Congress answered

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Speaker 26: the question, did you testify to witnessing the President United

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Speaker 26: States to classifying documents? Yes?

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Speaker 7: Or no?

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Speaker 1: Senator, the grand jury testimony is available to you. I

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Speaker 1: encourage you to make it public.

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Speaker 26: As you likely know, the second volume of Jack Smith's

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Speaker 26: report about the classified document case is not public yet.

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Speaker 26: To fulfill our constitutional duty of advice and consent the

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Speaker 26: President on nominations, members of this committee have asked the

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Speaker 26: DOJ to refuse the report. Do you agree that Congress

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Speaker 26: should thoroughly review its nominees? Yes or no?

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Speaker 15: Yes?

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Speaker 26: Okay, Now last question and I'll be done. When you

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Speaker 26: and I met, you told me that you wanted to

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Speaker 26: remove eleven thousand FBI personnel or move many of them.

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Speaker 26: You said that again today you have looked at an

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Speaker 26: org chart to understand what offices and functions that you'll

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Speaker 26: be pulling from. I don't think you've done a serious analysis,

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Speaker 26: but I do think you have an assignment from Donald

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Speaker 26: Trump to gut the FBI. You said yourself, I'll shut

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Speaker 26: down the FBI Hoover Building. There are people specifically that

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Speaker 26: you are targeting. I believe, and do you agree that

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Speaker 26: you have already prepared plans to remove certain individuals from

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Speaker 26: their offices, for example, individuals that will be replaced by

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Speaker 26: political personnel. The political personnel that are being put in

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Speaker 26: in an institution that you and I discussed it has

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Speaker 26: no political pointees but one the political personnels involve these names,

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Speaker 26: Erica Knight, Tom Fergusons.

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Speaker 27: You stated your question, would you answer or don't you

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Speaker 27: want to?

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Speaker 4: Okay, let's move on.

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Speaker 16: Senator Badworth, thank you, mister Chairman, and mister Patel.

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Speaker 11: There is absolutely no doubt.

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Speaker 5: That you that was a New Jersey Senator Corey Booker

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Speaker 5: questioning cash Pattel. Let's go back over to the Robert F.

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Speaker 5: Kennedy Junior hearing. It looks like Bernie Sanders is getting

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Speaker 5: pretty fired up.

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Speaker 28: It's not one nickel of pack money from the pharmaceuticals

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Speaker 28: that they came.

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Speaker 12: To twenty twenty. In twenty twenty, you were the single largest.

891
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Speaker 28: Because I received from minations from workers all over this country.

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Speaker 15: Workers. You were not a nickel from corporate.

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Speaker 12: You was the single largest pharmaceutical.

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Speaker 28: Dollars from workers in five million. Yeah, out of two

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Speaker 28: hundred million.

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Speaker 15: All right, but you have not answered last question.

897
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Speaker 29: You have not answered my questions.

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Speaker 18: That question were America healthy?

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Speaker 28: If you don't guarantee three minutes over here nowhere, how

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Speaker 28: long does they keep going at some time?

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Speaker 3: You're just battering the witness.

902
00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:06,319
Speaker 30: Not you're getting a set at him.

903
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Speaker 3: You're going at him just.

904
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Speaker 9: Like anybody else.

905
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Speaker 3: What we'll come to a Bernie, he's going over.

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Speaker 21: Uh.

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Speaker 13: You know, before I ever entered politics, before I was

908
00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:26,319
Speaker 13: ever thinking about running for office, I practiced medicine for

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Speaker 13: thirty years. I worked in public hospitals in California Louisiana

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00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:34,520
Speaker 13: specialized in liver disease caring for those who otherwise would not.

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00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:35,440
Speaker 3: Have had a specialist.

912
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Speaker 13: If you will, dedicating my life to saving lives, that

913
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Speaker 13: is being a doctor that ethic guides me. Now, in

914
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Speaker 13: my opening statement, I told the story of my patient,

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Speaker 13: an eighteen year old girl with a cute liver failure

916
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Speaker 13: from hepatitis B, being air ambulanced to LSU Shreveport Hospital

917
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Speaker 13: for a liver transplant.

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Speaker 3: Let me finish the story.

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Speaker 13: Her mother wasn't allowed to fly in the helicopter, so

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Speaker 13: her mother drove the three hours from Baton Rouge to Shreveport. Now,

921
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Speaker 13: when she arrived, they let her visit her daughter before

922
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Speaker 13: she went back to the oar and the mom goes

923
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Speaker 13: in to say a prayer, squeezes the daughter's hand. The

924
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Speaker 13: daughter's eyes open, and she said Mama, and the daughter

925
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Speaker 13: began to recover. Powerful story. Powerful story with a happy ending.

926
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Speaker 13: But as a doctor, I saw endings not so happy.

927
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Speaker 13: I just had a friend text me two children died

928
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Speaker 13: in an intensive care unit about Rouge Hospital from vaccine

929
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Speaker 13: preventable diseases this past month. So my concern is that

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Speaker 13: if there's any false note, any undermining of a mama's

931
00:53:57,520 --> 00:54:02,520
Speaker 13: trust in vaccines, another person will die from a vaccine

932
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Speaker 13: preventable disease.

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Speaker 3: Now you've got a megaphone. Maybe you and Bernie.

934
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Speaker 13: You know, Bobby and Bernie. Of everybody in this room,

935
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Speaker 13: the two of you have the biggest followings, tremendous credibility,

936
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Speaker 13: and with that influence comes a great responsibility. Now my

937
00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:29,520
Speaker 13: responsibility is to learn, try and determine if you can

938
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Speaker 13: be trusted to support the best public health A worthy

939
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Speaker 13: movement called MAHA to improve the health of Americans, are

940
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Speaker 13: to undermine it, always asking for more evidence and never

941
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Speaker 13: accepting the evidence that is there. I looked at the

942
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Speaker 13: article from doctor Mawson and it seems to be have

943
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Speaker 13: some issues. I'll just put that to the side, and

944
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Speaker 13: that is why I've been struggling with your nomination. There

945
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Speaker 13: are issues are man ulti process, food obesity.

946
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Speaker 3: We're SYMPATICO. We're completely aligned, and.

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Speaker 13: As someone who has discussed immunizations with thousands of people,

948
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Speaker 13: I understand that mothers want reassurance that the vaccine their

949
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Speaker 13: child is receiving is necessary, safe and effective. We agree

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Speaker 13: on that point, the two of us, but we've approached

951
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Speaker 13: it differently, And I think I can say that I've

952
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Speaker 13: approached it using the preponderance of evidence to reassure, and

953
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Speaker 13: you've approached using selected evidence to cast doubt. Now, put differently,

954
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Speaker 13: we're about the same age. Does a seventy year old man,

955
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Speaker 13: seventy one year old man who's spent decades criticizing vaccines

956
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Speaker 13: and who's financially vested in finding fault with vaccines? Can

957
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Speaker 13: he change his attitudes and approach now that he'll have

958
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Speaker 13: the most important position influencing vaccine policy in the United States.

959
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Speaker 13: Where you continue what you have been or will you

960
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Speaker 13: overturn a new leaf at age seventy I recognize, man,

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Speaker 13: if you come out unequivocally vaccines are safe, it does

962
00:56:10,080 --> 00:56:13,360
Speaker 13: not cause autism, that would have an incredible impact.

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Speaker 7: That's your power.

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Speaker 3: So what's it going to be. Will it be using

965
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Speaker 3: the credibility.

966
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Speaker 13: To support lots of articles or will be using credibility

967
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Speaker 13: to undermined And I got to figure that out for

968
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Speaker 13: my vote. You have the power to help rebuild, to

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Speaker 13: help public health institutions re earn the trust of the

970
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Speaker 13: American people.

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Speaker 3: Now, let's be political. I'm a Republican.

972
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Speaker 13: I represent the amazing state of Louisiana, and as a

973
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:53,880
Speaker 13: patriotic American, I want President Trump's policies to succeed in

974
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Speaker 13: making America and Americans.

975
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Speaker 3: More secure, more prosperous, healthier.

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Speaker 13: But if there's someone that is not vaccinated because of

977
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Speaker 13: policies or attitudes you bring to the Department, and there's

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Speaker 13: another eighteen year old who dies of a vaccine preventable disease, helicoptered.

979
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Speaker 3: Away, God forbid, dies, it'll be blown up in the press.

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Speaker 3: The greatest tragedy will be her death.

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Speaker 13: But I can also tell you an associated tragedy well,

982
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Speaker 13: that will cost that will cast a shadow over President

983
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Speaker 13: Trump's legacy, which I want to be the absolute best

984
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Speaker 13: legacy it can be. So that's my limit, man, and

985
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Speaker 13: you may be hearing hearing from you over the weekend.

986
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Speaker 13: You may be hearing from you over the weekend. I

987
00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:40,440
Speaker 13: once again thank you for your time, and I yield

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Speaker 13: to my ranking member.

989
00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:48,800
Speaker 29: Thank you, Miss Chaman, thank you very much for your

990
00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:53,400
Speaker 29: job today in conducting this very very important hearing.

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Speaker 15: Let me reiterate my concerns.

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Speaker 29: Every person on this panel, and I would hope everybody

993
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Speaker 29: in America wants to make us the healthiest country on Earth,

994
00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:14,720
Speaker 29: and I applaud mister Kennedy for raising the issues and

995
00:58:14,760 --> 00:58:20,120
Speaker 29: talking about some very important truths. But what I am

996
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Speaker 29: not hearing from him are some very specific policy issues

997
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Speaker 29: that we absolutely need if we're going to make America healthy.

998
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Speaker 29: It is unquestionable that when sixty eight million, sixty eight

999
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Speaker 29: thousand Americans die because they can't afford to go to

1000
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Speaker 29: a doctor, you got to deal with that. And I

1001
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Speaker 29: have not heard one word about the need for universal

1002
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Speaker 29: healthcare that exists in every country on Earth. When one

1003
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Speaker 29: out of four people can't afford prescription drugs because the

1004
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Speaker 29: pharmaceutical industry is ripping us off and charging us ten

1005
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Speaker 29: times more in some cases than the people and other countries,

1006
00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:03,400
Speaker 29: I have not heard the definitive answer I need that

1007
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Speaker 29: we're not going to pay the highest prices in the

1008
00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:09,480
Speaker 29: world for prescription drugs. And one of the points I

1009
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Speaker 29: think that mister Kennedy made, which is right, healthcare is

1010
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Speaker 29: not just medical care. It's a lot more. Talk about

1011
00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:19,880
Speaker 29: the food industry. We have held a hearing Senator Cassidy.

1012
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Speaker 29: I held a hearing a couple of months ago where

1013
00:59:22,520 --> 00:59:25,960
Speaker 29: we made the point that the food industry is in fact,

1014
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Speaker 29: poisoning our kids.

1015
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Speaker 7: With addictive food.

1016
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Speaker 29: That is leading to obesity, diabetes, heart conditions, et cetera.

1017
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Speaker 29: And I hope, I hope that our Congress and the

1018
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Speaker 29: White House will have the courage to take on a

1019
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Speaker 29: very powerful food industry and demand that the products that

1020
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Speaker 29: they sell our kids are in fact healthy and non addictive.

1021
00:59:53,320 --> 00:59:55,440
Speaker 29: In many ways, what the food industry is doing today

1022
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Speaker 29: is what the tobacco industry did fifty or sixty years ago.

1023
01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:03,840
Speaker 29: Talk about making America healthy today. Again, it's not just

1024
01:00:04,040 --> 01:00:09,120
Speaker 29: doctor care medical care. We have millions of people working

1025
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Speaker 29: for starvation wages. You cannot be healthy if you're working

1026
01:00:12,480 --> 01:00:15,360
Speaker 29: fifty or sixty hours a week and you can't afford

1027
01:00:16,240 --> 01:00:19,200
Speaker 29: the rent that your landlord has taught you.

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Speaker 15: Stress kills, Stress makes us sick.

1029
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Speaker 29: So, mister Chairman, let me just say this, I think

1030
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Speaker 29: the issues that have been raised in this hearing today

1031
01:00:30,480 --> 01:00:34,120
Speaker 29: are of enormous importance. I look forward to working with

1032
01:00:34,200 --> 01:00:36,720
Speaker 29: you and all the members of this committee to make

1033
01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:40,440
Speaker 29: sure that we develop the policies that have the courage

1034
01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:43,840
Speaker 29: to take on very powerful and wealthy special interests so

1035
01:00:44,080 --> 01:00:46,920
Speaker 29: in fact, that we can make America healthy.

1036
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Speaker 15: Thank you.

1037
01:00:48,640 --> 01:00:50,920
Speaker 13: This concludes our hearing for any Senators who wish to

1038
01:00:50,920 --> 01:00:53,320
Speaker 13: ask additional questions. Questions for the record will be due

1039
01:00:53,360 --> 01:01:04,320
Speaker 13: tomorrow on Friday, January thirty first, at five pm.

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Speaker 5: All right, so that was Robert F. Kennedy Junior's second hearing.

1041
01:01:07,880 --> 01:01:11,960
Speaker 5: He was having a hearing before the Health, Education, Labor

1042
01:01:12,040 --> 01:01:15,840
Speaker 5: and Pensions Committee. Now let's go back to Cash Patel's

1043
01:01:15,880 --> 01:01:18,600
Speaker 5: hearing before the Senate Judiciary Committee.

1044
01:01:19,040 --> 01:01:22,600
Speaker 16: I look forward to having an FBI that will work

1045
01:01:22,920 --> 01:01:26,200
Speaker 16: to help get these records and in this human and

1046
01:01:26,280 --> 01:01:28,720
Speaker 16: track sex trafficking in this country.

1047
01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:33,520
Speaker 31: Fifteen seconds, Yeah, yes, go. The senator from Tennessee knows

1048
01:01:33,560 --> 01:01:36,120
Speaker 31: what the two hour rule is. The two hour rule

1049
01:01:36,160 --> 01:01:38,400
Speaker 31: takes the devil out of the chairman's hands, and that

1050
01:01:38,560 --> 01:01:41,320
Speaker 31: was what was being executed when you were seeking recognition

1051
01:01:41,640 --> 01:01:43,640
Speaker 31: and being executed by your side of the aisle.

1052
01:01:44,520 --> 01:01:47,480
Speaker 4: Senator Badia, thank you, mister chair.

1053
01:01:48,320 --> 01:01:52,080
Speaker 18: Colleagues, as me know, it's not just the nominee for

1054
01:01:52,240 --> 01:01:54,880
Speaker 18: FBI director's before us today, but there's been a lot

1055
01:01:54,920 --> 01:01:58,920
Speaker 18: of chaos and confusion this week in regards to executive

1056
01:01:59,000 --> 01:02:01,160
Speaker 18: orders that have been issued as it pertains to the

1057
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Speaker 18: federal budget, federal spending, hiring freezes, et cetera. But relevant

1058
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Speaker 18: to this confirmation hearing colleagues, the FBI has paused its

1059
01:02:11,400 --> 01:02:14,920
Speaker 18: new academy classes while they assess how the firing freeze

1060
01:02:14,960 --> 01:02:20,640
Speaker 18: impacts them. President Trump's executive orders has a national security exception,

1061
01:02:21,400 --> 01:02:24,520
Speaker 18: but it is unclear how it will apply to agencies

1062
01:02:24,880 --> 01:02:29,880
Speaker 18: like the FBI. The FBI has a large civilian employee population,

1063
01:02:30,080 --> 01:02:34,360
Speaker 18: so it's not certain if they will qualify for exceptions.

1064
01:02:35,880 --> 01:02:39,360
Speaker 18: The White House memos stated that nearly one thousand probationary

1065
01:02:39,400 --> 01:02:45,040
Speaker 18: FBI employees would stay They would stay on only if

1066
01:02:45,240 --> 01:02:50,440
Speaker 18: quote justified, without clarity on a timetable or process for justification.

1067
01:02:52,320 --> 01:02:55,880
Speaker 18: Mister Pottel, how does this help or does this hurt

1068
01:02:57,040 --> 01:02:59,960
Speaker 18: the FBI improve public safety in America?

1069
01:03:00,520 --> 01:03:03,320
Speaker 1: Centator, I know about as much as this late breaking

1070
01:03:03,360 --> 01:03:05,000
Speaker 1: news as you do by reading it in the media,

1071
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Speaker 1: and I will say the following in terms of FBI employees.

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Speaker 1: If I'm confirmed, FBI employees represent the front line of

1073
01:03:11,480 --> 01:03:14,320
Speaker 1: defense for national sharty and crime. And if I'm confirmed,

1074
01:03:14,320 --> 01:03:16,960
Speaker 1: I will ensure that all FBI graduates of the Academy

1075
01:03:16,960 --> 01:03:20,440
Speaker 1: will be protected and funded so that we can continue

1076
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Speaker 1: the fight together.

1077
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Speaker 18: But would you agree that even just causing a pause

1078
01:03:24,120 --> 01:03:28,400
Speaker 18: or confusion in being able to grow the ranks is

1079
01:03:28,400 --> 01:03:30,640
Speaker 18: not helpful to public safety in America.

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01:03:31,120 --> 01:03:33,440
Speaker 4: Not yes, not having a work thank.

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01:03:33,320 --> 01:03:35,720
Speaker 18: You testments goes by fast. I want to get as

1082
01:03:35,720 --> 01:03:40,240
Speaker 18: many topics as they can. As you know, the FBI

1083
01:03:40,280 --> 01:03:44,400
Speaker 18: plays a critical role in national security and public safety.

1084
01:03:45,200 --> 01:03:51,240
Speaker 18: Yet the reports are that the tiring freezes is damaging

1085
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Speaker 18: and I want to submit for the record, mister Chairman,

1086
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Speaker 18: a New York Times article outlining the questions and concerns

1087
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Speaker 18: that just stated. Now out to the next topic. FBI

1088
01:04:00,640 --> 01:04:03,720
Speaker 18: agents rely on their leadership to ensure their safety and

1089
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Speaker 18: success of operations. As Senior Director for counter Terrorism at

1090
01:04:11,240 --> 01:04:13,800
Speaker 18: the National Security Council, you were involved in a sealed

1091
01:04:13,800 --> 01:04:16,919
Speaker 18: team rescue mission to recover a twenty seven year old

1092
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Speaker 18: American hostage in Nigeria. According to former Secretary of Defense

1093
01:04:22,960 --> 01:04:27,640
Speaker 18: Mark Esper, you falsely informed senior leadership that the United

1094
01:04:27,680 --> 01:04:31,920
Speaker 18: States had secured permission to fly over other nations airspace

1095
01:04:32,400 --> 01:04:36,960
Speaker 18: en route to Nigeria. Dis misinformation forced the aircraft to

1096
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Speaker 18: circle the border for an additional hour, potentially jeopardizing the

1097
01:04:41,920 --> 01:04:47,640
Speaker 18: mission's success and putting service members at undue risk. Can

1098
01:04:47,640 --> 01:04:51,960
Speaker 18: you explain your decision to falsely claim airspace permissions had

1099
01:04:52,000 --> 01:04:53,280
Speaker 18: been secured for the mission.

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Speaker 4: I greatly appreciate this.

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Speaker 1: This is one that hits home squarely because my guys,

1102
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Speaker 1: my friends, were on that operation, They were in that helo,

1103
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Speaker 1: they were in that V twenty two, and there is

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Speaker 1: never a time in my career that it wouldjeopardize the

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Speaker 1: safety the men and women in uniform. And if you

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Speaker 1: ask the National Security Advisor of the President of the

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Speaker 1: United States, who's with me on that day, who has

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Speaker 1: gone on the record publicly, as has General Tony Tata,

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Speaker 1: who's the Under Secretary of Defense, they have both stated

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Speaker 1: with affirmation that I acted appropriately, relayed all information accurately,

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Speaker 1: and never jeopardize the safety of the hostages. And our

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Speaker 1: men were on the ground for fifty nine seconds and

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Speaker 1: executed six centuries and rescued an American hostage named Philip Walton,

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Speaker 1: and he's home today with his family because of it.

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Speaker 18: So your friends versus the former secretary of Defense, that's

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Speaker 18: what we're going to be asked to consider. Next topic.

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Speaker 18: In September of twenty twenty four, just a couple of

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Speaker 18: months ago, you stated that Chris Ray was caught illegally

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Speaker 18: using seven h two collection against Americans two hundred and

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Speaker 18: seventy four thousand times. That's a quote size Congress for

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Speaker 18: failing to implement necessary reforms when reauthorizing section seven oh two. Now,

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Speaker 18: earlier on this hearing, I heard you respond to Senator

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Speaker 18: Cornan's questions and saying that the improvements to visis seven

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Speaker 18: oh two. Accountability go a long ways. What you said

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Speaker 18: today earlier on the record and under oath, but on

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Speaker 18: that September podcast that I'm referring to, you said that

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Speaker 18: by passing the reauthorization bill, Republicans quote bent the knee.

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Speaker 18: So which is it they bent the knee and didn't

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Speaker 18: reform seven oh two as you would suggest, or that

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Speaker 18: they've gone.

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Speaker 1: A long way, Senator, as I've talked about extensively with

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Speaker 1: my experience with seven oh two, it is a necessary

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Speaker 1: tool to protect this country. The FISA Court themselves issued

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Speaker 1: the report you're referring to about the illegal searches. They

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Speaker 1: found two hundred and seventy some thousand violations. So I

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01:06:57,560 --> 01:06:59,360
Speaker 1: think we need it, and I think we need to

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Speaker 1: work with Congres.

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Speaker 18: Rephraise my question more bluntly, which is your opinion on

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01:07:04,720 --> 01:07:08,760
Speaker 18: the most recent reauthorization of seven oh two, that Republicans

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01:07:09,200 --> 01:07:14,280
Speaker 18: bent the knee for not insisting or adopting significant reforms,

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01:07:14,640 --> 01:07:16,760
Speaker 18: or that reforms have gone a long way because they

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01:07:16,800 --> 01:07:18,320
Speaker 18: seem like contradictory statements.

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Speaker 1: Seven oh two is a critical tool, and I'm proud

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01:07:21,800 --> 01:07:23,960
Speaker 1: of the reforms that have been implemented, and I'm proud

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Speaker 1: to work with Congress moving forward to implement more reforms.

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Speaker 18: So they bent the knee, but now you're proud of it.

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Speaker 18: Got it? Next topic. I know you've been asked about

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Speaker 18: the J six prison Choir prior in this hearing. My

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01:07:38,360 --> 01:07:41,720
Speaker 18: question is not going to rehash previous questions. Funds have

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Speaker 18: been raised, as you explained to me in our meeting

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01:07:44,240 --> 01:07:51,160
Speaker 18: last week, to support families of insurrectionists my words clearly

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01:07:51,200 --> 01:07:54,200
Speaker 18: not yours, that have been in jail, including those who

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Speaker 18: committed acts of violence against police officers. I'll want to know,

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01:08:00,080 --> 01:08:03,200
Speaker 18: in any of your work around the J six prison Choir,

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01:08:03,800 --> 01:08:07,120
Speaker 18: was any of the funds that were raised you used

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01:08:07,120 --> 01:08:10,000
Speaker 18: to support the families of the police officers who were

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Speaker 18: brutally attacked by the insurrectionists.

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Speaker 1: Center My foundation has used funds across the country. It's

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Speaker 1: a yes or no, I don't know if those officers

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01:08:20,240 --> 01:08:21,519
Speaker 1: families applied for a grant.

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01:08:21,600 --> 01:08:23,880
Speaker 4: That's how we distribute at a charity.

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Speaker 18: That tells me a lot about your care and prioritization

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01:08:27,560 --> 01:08:32,080
Speaker 18: of the police officers you claim to support.

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Speaker 1: Because given away over half a million dollars to law

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Speaker 1: enforcement and act you, I mean you.

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Speaker 18: Were able to articulate to me examples of the families

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Speaker 18: of January sixth insurrectionists because supported the families. But you

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01:08:47,120 --> 01:08:53,320
Speaker 18: can't say clearly and confidently that families of police officers

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Speaker 18: who were brutally attacked got similar support. Next topic, Okay,

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Speaker 18: I'll save for the second round.

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Speaker 4: Think of his chair or I call him Senator Schmidt.

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Speaker 27: I have a letter that I want to put in

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Speaker 27: in regard to this Nigerian rescue story. It's from General Tata.

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Speaker 27: What people that bring this up don't tell you is

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Speaker 27: that General Tata has denied the exchange reported in the

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Speaker 27: Atlantic and has forcefully defended mister Patel. General Tata said,

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Speaker 27: I never heard the words that somebody's saying they heard

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Speaker 27: from me. That's not a quote for me, and a

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01:09:41,680 --> 01:09:45,960
Speaker 27: quote General Tata wrote to the committee and said it

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Speaker 27: was quote irresponsible end quote to say, mister Patel jeopardized

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Speaker 27: the mission. He said, quote Cash played a critical role

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01:09:56,479 --> 01:10:00,360
Speaker 27: in that and many other successes during his t your

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Speaker 27: precisely because he cares so deeply about America. It's national

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01:10:05,680 --> 01:10:10,559
Speaker 27: domestic security, and are citizens sold by unanimous consent. I

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01:10:10,600 --> 01:10:13,760
Speaker 27: will put this letter in the record. Any disagreement I

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01:10:13,840 --> 01:10:15,960
Speaker 27: heard none, Senator Schmidt, Thank you.

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Speaker 15: Miss Truman.

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Speaker 4: It's good to see you.

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Speaker 3: Miss Mattel.

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Speaker 30: It's great to have your family here. I know they

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01:10:20,439 --> 01:10:22,640
Speaker 30: must be very proud. I have to tell you I

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01:10:22,680 --> 01:10:27,799
Speaker 30: saw up close and personal how politically weaponized the FBI

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01:10:27,880 --> 01:10:30,880
Speaker 30: had become. In my former job as Attorney General Missouri,

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01:10:30,960 --> 01:10:34,120
Speaker 30: we brought the Missouri Versus Biden lawsuit, which uncovered this

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01:10:34,240 --> 01:10:40,040
Speaker 30: vast censorship enterprise where the federal government coerced and coluded

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Speaker 30: with some of the biggest companies in the history of

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Speaker 30: the world to suppress speech, and not just that, actually

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Speaker 30: to pre bunk the Hunter Biden laptop story. The FBI

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Speaker 30: had the laptop in November of twenty nineteen. They met

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Speaker 30: with senior executives. Jul Roth, who was the main guy

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Speaker 30: at Twitter at the time, signed an Affidavid saying they

1202
01:11:03,760 --> 01:11:07,439
Speaker 30: were talking specifically about the laptop. It could be Hunter

1203
01:11:07,439 --> 01:11:10,679
Speaker 30: Biden's pre bunking it, calling it a Russian hacken leak operation.

1204
01:11:10,720 --> 01:11:13,439
Speaker 30: They knew it was true, they knew it was his laptop.

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01:11:15,120 --> 01:11:20,200
Speaker 30: So the rot is deep and the time for you

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Speaker 30: is now, and I'm glad because reform is needed. Senator

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Speaker 30: Durbin referenced your book. I actually think I think it's

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01:11:29,760 --> 01:11:33,160
Speaker 30: a good Everyone should read the book because I want

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01:11:33,160 --> 01:11:34,880
Speaker 30: to ask you about some quotes that are in the book,

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01:11:36,080 --> 01:11:38,760
Speaker 30: because a lot's been made of it, usually just some

1211
01:11:38,800 --> 01:11:41,479
Speaker 30: of the endnotes, but the content of the book. Did

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01:11:41,479 --> 01:11:45,520
Speaker 30: you say in the book American justice must never be selective.

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01:11:46,000 --> 01:11:49,120
Speaker 30: If the laws applied unevenly, democracy crumbles.

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Speaker 4: Did you say that I did, Senator.

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Speaker 30: When agencies like the FBI and the CIA prioritize politics

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01:11:55,479 --> 01:11:57,360
Speaker 30: over truth, the nation suffers.

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Speaker 4: Did you say that I sure did, Senator.

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Speaker 30: Accountability isn't optional. Those who violate the public trust must

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01:12:05,040 --> 01:12:08,320
Speaker 30: face real consequences, regardless of their rank or title.

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Speaker 4: Did you say that I did, Senator.

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Speaker 30: Okay, there's a lot more in there, and I know

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Speaker 30: that Senator Tillis has got the game of bingo. I'd

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01:12:17,280 --> 01:12:20,200
Speaker 30: like to play another game. Would you rather.

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01:12:22,040 --> 01:12:22,960
Speaker 4: Let's have at it, sir.

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01:12:23,680 --> 01:12:29,080
Speaker 30: Would you rather the FBI prosecute and persecute parents who

1226
01:12:29,160 --> 01:12:33,000
Speaker 30: voice legitimate concerns at school board meetings? Or should it

1227
01:12:33,120 --> 01:12:36,600
Speaker 30: investigate domestic terrorists who commit school shootings and threaten the

1228
01:12:36,600 --> 01:12:37,719
Speaker 30: lives of American children?

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, investigate prioritize the safety of our children in any

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Speaker 1: actual and real domestic terrorists, as I have prosecuted my

1231
01:12:45,360 --> 01:12:47,200
Speaker 1: past in the Obama Justice Department.

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Speaker 30: Would you rather the FBI be weaponized by investigating presidential

1233
01:12:53,000 --> 01:12:57,720
Speaker 30: candidates political opponents, spying on and wire tapping candidates advisors?

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01:12:57,840 --> 01:13:01,760
Speaker 30: Or should the FBI get its back, get back to

1235
01:13:01,840 --> 01:13:05,160
Speaker 30: its core mission, and get politics out of the FBI.

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01:13:05,320 --> 01:13:07,360
Speaker 4: There should be no politics in the FBI.

1237
01:13:07,439 --> 01:13:09,880
Speaker 1: And having been a victim of the weaponization of law

1238
01:13:09,960 --> 01:13:12,680
Speaker 1: enforcement against me, I know what that feels like, and

1239
01:13:12,720 --> 01:13:15,799
Speaker 1: if I'm confirmed, I will make sure no American feels

1240
01:13:15,840 --> 01:13:16,599
Speaker 1: that sleight of hand.

1241
01:13:16,640 --> 01:13:21,640
Speaker 30: Ever again, would you rather the FBI target traditional Catholics

1242
01:13:21,880 --> 01:13:26,080
Speaker 30: as extremists or should the FBI focus on investigating actual

1243
01:13:26,120 --> 01:13:30,880
Speaker 30: threats pose the American people by cartels pumping fentanyl into

1244
01:13:30,920 --> 01:13:32,439
Speaker 30: our communities through the southern border.

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01:13:33,000 --> 01:13:36,120
Speaker 1: One hundred thousand debts to Defense and all drug overdoses

1246
01:13:36,120 --> 01:13:38,320
Speaker 1: in one year. I'd rather the FBI focus on that

1247
01:13:38,400 --> 01:13:39,360
Speaker 1: and save our children.

1248
01:13:40,600 --> 01:13:45,840
Speaker 30: Would you rather the FBI ignore when thugs threaten to

1249
01:13:46,439 --> 01:13:51,320
Speaker 30: harm and plot against Supreme Court justices? Or should the

1250
01:13:51,400 --> 01:13:54,320
Speaker 30: FBI actually investigate that and get to the bottom of it.

1251
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Speaker 4: I'm so glad you brought that up, Senator.

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01:13:56,640 --> 01:13:58,920
Speaker 1: This body passed the law to protect our justices of

1253
01:13:58,920 --> 01:14:02,120
Speaker 1: the peace, including this Court, and every single justice of

1254
01:14:02,120 --> 01:14:05,240
Speaker 1: the peace deserves that enforcement of that law so they

1255
01:14:05,280 --> 01:14:06,160
Speaker 1: can do their duty.

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01:14:07,120 --> 01:14:11,519
Speaker 30: Would you rather the FBI pressure social media companies into

1257
01:14:11,640 --> 01:14:16,160
Speaker 30: censoring conservative viewpoints or should it focus on what the

1258
01:14:16,200 --> 01:14:19,679
Speaker 30: FBI should get back to, which is investigating interstate crimes

1259
01:14:19,720 --> 01:14:21,560
Speaker 30: that threaten the well being of Americans.

1260
01:14:21,640 --> 01:14:24,879
Speaker 1: No censorship, Let's focus on investigating interstate crimes.

1261
01:14:25,920 --> 01:14:29,559
Speaker 30: Would you rather the FBI raid the home of a

1262
01:14:29,600 --> 01:14:33,679
Speaker 30: former president in chief political rival, going through the first

1263
01:14:33,760 --> 01:14:38,240
Speaker 30: lady's personal belongings, spreading out documents on the floor, staged

1264
01:14:38,920 --> 01:14:42,519
Speaker 30: or should it raid the homes of terrorists who seek

1265
01:14:42,560 --> 01:14:43,960
Speaker 30: to harm citizens.

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01:14:44,200 --> 01:14:46,400
Speaker 1: Let's let our men and women in law enforcement kick

1267
01:14:46,439 --> 01:14:49,520
Speaker 1: down the doors of terrorists and narco traffickers and pedophiles

1268
01:14:49,720 --> 01:14:51,599
Speaker 1: and put those people in prison where they belong.

1269
01:14:52,400 --> 01:14:56,320
Speaker 30: So I mean, I could go on and on, but

1270
01:14:56,800 --> 01:14:58,280
Speaker 30: let me tell you what I think is really going

1271
01:14:58,320 --> 01:15:03,000
Speaker 30: on here. What I think is going on here is

1272
01:15:03,040 --> 01:15:06,519
Speaker 30: that the folks on the other side can't actually believe

1273
01:15:07,320 --> 01:15:09,759
Speaker 30: and can't come to grips that they're in this position

1274
01:15:09,840 --> 01:15:13,839
Speaker 30: right now, that they're in the minority, and that President

1275
01:15:13,880 --> 01:15:17,360
Speaker 30: Trump is back in office, because what they did was

1276
01:15:18,439 --> 01:15:22,760
Speaker 30: after he was out of office, they tried to destroy him.

1277
01:15:23,160 --> 01:15:26,639
Speaker 30: They tried to financially ruin him and his family. They

1278
01:15:26,680 --> 01:15:29,280
Speaker 30: tried to intimidate him, They tried to throw him in

1279
01:15:29,400 --> 01:15:32,320
Speaker 30: jail for the rest of his life. They tried to

1280
01:15:32,360 --> 01:15:38,640
Speaker 30: demonize half the country. They're opening and closing argument for

1281
01:15:38,680 --> 01:15:43,960
Speaker 30: the last four years has been that President Trump and

1282
01:15:44,080 --> 01:15:51,000
Speaker 30: Republicans are a threat to democracy. But the American people

1283
01:15:51,960 --> 01:15:57,120
Speaker 30: sat in a jury box and they watched and they

1284
01:15:57,160 --> 01:16:02,280
Speaker 30: weighed the evidence, they heard all the facts, and they

1285
01:16:02,280 --> 01:16:07,080
Speaker 30: rendered their own verdict, and their verdict was for reform.

1286
01:16:08,600 --> 01:16:11,080
Speaker 30: They don't believe that the people who've been doing this

1287
01:16:11,320 --> 01:16:14,240
Speaker 30: in these positions have done a particularly good job before.

1288
01:16:14,800 --> 01:16:17,479
Speaker 30: They think the deck is stacked against them, and they

1289
01:16:17,479 --> 01:16:22,519
Speaker 30: saw how our justice system was turned against political opponents

1290
01:16:22,560 --> 01:16:28,639
Speaker 30: in a Soviet style justice system, which Moniker was, show

1291
01:16:28,680 --> 01:16:32,920
Speaker 30: me the man, and I'll show you the crime you

1292
01:16:33,960 --> 01:16:36,400
Speaker 30: And by the way, I don't think they can believe

1293
01:16:36,560 --> 01:16:40,320
Speaker 30: you're sitting where you're sitting at right now, But guess

1294
01:16:40,320 --> 01:16:45,800
Speaker 30: what you are. And you're going to get confirmed and

1295
01:16:45,880 --> 01:16:47,840
Speaker 30: you're going to lead this agency back to what it

1296
01:16:47,880 --> 01:16:51,639
Speaker 30: always should have been, which is to protect the American people,

1297
01:16:52,520 --> 01:16:55,719
Speaker 30: to fight crime, to put the bad guys in jail,

1298
01:16:56,439 --> 01:17:00,879
Speaker 30: not to execute a political agenda like some nano republic

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01:17:00,920 --> 01:17:03,880
Speaker 30: form of justice where you point to the person on

1300
01:17:03,920 --> 01:17:06,240
Speaker 30: the other side that you want taken out and you

1301
01:17:06,280 --> 01:17:09,479
Speaker 30: go do that person's bidding. This country was founded on

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01:17:09,520 --> 01:17:12,280
Speaker 30: the idea that people could say what they wanted, they

1303
01:17:12,280 --> 01:17:15,200
Speaker 30: could believe what they want, and that the government wouldn't

1304
01:17:15,240 --> 01:17:17,639
Speaker 30: come after him. The government's job is not to tell

1305
01:17:17,680 --> 01:17:19,679
Speaker 30: you what you should think, or what you can say,

1306
01:17:19,800 --> 01:17:22,640
Speaker 30: or what you can do, or what you believe in.

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01:17:22,680 --> 01:17:26,400
Speaker 30: This Justice Department, under Christopher Ray and under Joe Biden

1308
01:17:26,760 --> 01:17:31,360
Speaker 30: and Merrick Garland has done just that, and that's why

1309
01:17:31,400 --> 01:17:34,599
Speaker 30: the trust has plummeted. So you've got a big job.

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01:17:35,439 --> 01:17:37,840
Speaker 30: You've got a big, big job. But I have all

1311
01:17:37,880 --> 01:17:40,040
Speaker 30: the faith in the world in you that you're going

1312
01:17:40,120 --> 01:17:42,280
Speaker 30: to restore that trust because you believe in the rule

1313
01:17:42,280 --> 01:17:44,840
Speaker 30: of law, you have an incredible personal story. You're going

1314
01:17:44,920 --> 01:17:47,200
Speaker 30: to get confirmed. And I wish you all the best

1315
01:17:47,400 --> 01:17:48,400
Speaker 30: and you have my vote.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, Senator, appreciate this.

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Speaker 32: Senator Welsh, thank you very much. Just responding you guys won.

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Speaker 32: There was, if you want to call it, a jury box.

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Speaker 32: The American people elected you, and you're the majority party

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Speaker 32: in the House and the Senate. You've got President Trump

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01:18:07,800 --> 01:18:11,639
Speaker 32: was duly elected. But let me tell you the source

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01:18:11,680 --> 01:18:15,760
Speaker 32: of my ongoing concern, which I regret is sometimes does

1323
01:18:15,800 --> 01:18:18,760
Speaker 32: not seem to be a common concern. We had a

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01:18:18,800 --> 01:18:25,040
Speaker 32: catastrophe for our democracy on January sixth, and your asserting

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01:18:26,400 --> 01:18:29,040
Speaker 32: that you won, and you did, and I acknowledge it.

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Speaker 32: It troubles me that so many people have difficulty saying

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Speaker 32: Biden won the election. And I listened to your response,

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Speaker 32: mister Patel and many of the people who congratulated you

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01:18:42,439 --> 01:18:46,960
Speaker 32: and your parents on your extraordinary story. I share that,

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01:18:47,400 --> 01:18:50,680
Speaker 32: so I want you to know that. But what's so

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01:18:50,760 --> 01:18:55,040
Speaker 32: hard about just saying that Biden won the twenty twenty election.

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01:18:55,200 --> 01:18:56,120
Speaker 4: What's hard about that?

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Speaker 1: Senator as I've said before the President Biden was certified

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01:19:01,920 --> 01:19:03,559
Speaker 1: and sworn in, and he was a president.

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Speaker 4: I don't know how else to say it.

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Speaker 32: Well, the other way to say it is he won,

1337
01:19:07,439 --> 01:19:09,800
Speaker 32: he was the president. The other way to say it

1338
01:19:09,840 --> 01:19:12,880
Speaker 32: is he won. I can say Trump won. I didn't

1339
01:19:12,920 --> 01:19:17,960
Speaker 32: vote for him, but he won. You know, Al Gore

1340
01:19:18,360 --> 01:19:23,919
Speaker 32: said Bush won when they were having that recount in Florida.

1341
01:19:24,760 --> 01:19:27,080
Speaker 32: And we have had a peaceful transfer of power here

1342
01:19:27,280 --> 01:19:32,960
Speaker 32: and very contested elections. And I'll just be very direct

1343
01:19:32,960 --> 01:19:35,800
Speaker 32: with you about why I think this is of consequence

1344
01:19:36,840 --> 01:19:41,160
Speaker 32: when Trump Trump Donald Trump has never acknowledged that he

1345
01:19:41,240 --> 01:19:44,840
Speaker 32: lost in twenty twenty, and he invited people to come

1346
01:19:44,880 --> 01:19:48,360
Speaker 32: to the capital on January sixth to stop this steal.

1347
01:19:49,400 --> 01:19:55,160
Speaker 32: And after that happened, police officers died, people were injured.

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Speaker 3: It created an.

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Speaker 32: Enormous ongoing bitterness within the country. And that's your boss.

1350
01:20:03,640 --> 01:20:07,040
Speaker 32: Do you believe that the twenty twenty election was stolen?

1351
01:20:07,120 --> 01:20:08,800
Speaker 32: As President Trump says it is?

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01:20:09,560 --> 01:20:09,800
Speaker 4: Sure?

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01:20:10,080 --> 01:20:12,960
Speaker 1: My opinions on the twenty twenty election have been expressed

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01:20:12,960 --> 01:20:15,799
Speaker 1: in this hearing, and he's entitled to whatever opinions he wants.

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01:20:16,840 --> 01:20:19,799
Speaker 32: Yep, I'm do you agree with him? That the election

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01:20:19,920 --> 01:20:23,200
Speaker 32: was stolen in twenty twentytor millions of Americans.

1357
01:20:23,240 --> 01:20:27,120
Speaker 1: Is express concern going back to multiple elections over election integrity.

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01:20:27,200 --> 01:20:33,240
Speaker 32: You know, you're so skillful, you understand what I'm asking you.

1359
01:20:33,520 --> 01:20:38,679
Speaker 32: Can you say the words Joe Biden won the twenty

1360
01:20:38,720 --> 01:20:39,680
Speaker 32: twenty election.

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01:20:39,760 --> 01:20:42,040
Speaker 4: Joe Biden was the president of the United States.

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Speaker 32: You know, I under stay on this. There's a difference.

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01:20:45,640 --> 01:20:49,599
Speaker 32: I can say the words Donald Trump won. I don't

1364
01:20:49,640 --> 01:20:54,720
Speaker 32: like to say it, but I must say it, and

1365
01:20:55,040 --> 01:20:57,320
Speaker 32: you cannot say that Joe Biden won the election.

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Speaker 1: What I can say is the same for both of them,

1367
01:20:59,800 --> 01:21:02,599
Speaker 1: saying there both of their elections were certified, and they

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01:21:02,600 --> 01:21:04,839
Speaker 1: are both one was and one now is president.

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Speaker 15: Okay.

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Speaker 32: The reason I have some concerns about that, my colleagues

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Speaker 32: on the Republican side, is that whoever is the FBI director,

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Speaker 32: and I suspect it will be mister Patel has a

1373
01:21:16,400 --> 01:21:22,559
Speaker 32: boss and he has strong points of view. He's said

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01:21:23,479 --> 01:21:27,720
Speaker 32: the Vice President Harris was a criminal and should be prosecuted.

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01:21:28,120 --> 01:21:29,839
Speaker 32: Is that a prosecution you would initiate.

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01:21:30,439 --> 01:21:34,040
Speaker 1: There is no prosecution or that the FBI will ever initiate,

1377
01:21:34,080 --> 01:21:36,639
Speaker 1: because the FBI will only do investigations, and those will

1378
01:21:36,680 --> 01:21:39,200
Speaker 1: only be open where there's a factual and constitutional basis

1379
01:21:39,240 --> 01:21:39,680
Speaker 1: to do so.

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01:21:40,840 --> 01:21:44,960
Speaker 32: Your boss has said that a General Millie, who served

1381
01:21:45,000 --> 01:21:47,360
Speaker 32: us with great distinction I happen to have great admiration

1382
01:21:47,439 --> 01:21:49,280
Speaker 32: for should be tried for treason.

1383
01:21:49,280 --> 01:21:50,040
Speaker 4: Do you agree with that.

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01:21:50,160 --> 01:21:53,759
Speaker 1: Everybody's entitled to their opinion. The only thing that matters

1385
01:21:53,760 --> 01:21:54,879
Speaker 1: that the FBI is whether.

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01:21:54,720 --> 01:21:55,519
Speaker 15: The law is followed.

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Speaker 32: Okay, I know everybody's entitled to their opinion. I'm asking

1388
01:21:59,760 --> 01:22:04,360
Speaker 32: you your opinion. Should General Milly be tried for treason?

1389
01:22:04,920 --> 01:22:08,519
Speaker 1: Vice President Harris, Kamala Harris, or General Milliy or anyone

1390
01:22:08,560 --> 01:22:11,240
Speaker 1: otherwise will not be subjected to an FBI investigation.

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Speaker 4: That doesn't mean the rigorous standards of the constitution.

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01:22:14,120 --> 01:22:16,679
Speaker 32: You've talked about your devotion to the men and women

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01:22:17,160 --> 01:22:17,880
Speaker 32: in the FBI.

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Speaker 4: I accept that.

1395
01:22:20,880 --> 01:22:25,320
Speaker 32: But as you know, President Trump used the power of

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01:22:25,360 --> 01:22:30,040
Speaker 32: the pardon to let people who are cop beaters out

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01:22:30,120 --> 01:22:33,000
Speaker 32: of jail. Right he also let a drug dealer out

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01:22:33,000 --> 01:22:38,679
Speaker 32: of jail. You're familiar with that, Maybe you're not. Ross

1399
01:22:38,720 --> 01:22:42,920
Speaker 32: Oldbrook started the Silk Road the dark Web, and made

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01:22:43,000 --> 01:22:47,800
Speaker 32: millions of dollars selling drugs, providing a vehicle by which

1401
01:22:48,920 --> 01:22:50,800
Speaker 32: people could get things that were going.

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01:22:50,720 --> 01:22:52,000
Speaker 3: To kill him, and people died.

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01:22:52,960 --> 01:22:57,880
Speaker 32: He also sought a couple of people to do to

1404
01:22:58,040 --> 01:23:02,120
Speaker 32: murder on his behalf because he thoughts empire was threatened.

1405
01:23:02,960 --> 01:23:08,920
Speaker 32: Do you what is your opinion about Trump pardoning this

1406
01:23:09,040 --> 01:23:11,280
Speaker 32: drug dealer attempted murderer.

1407
01:23:12,400 --> 01:23:15,040
Speaker 1: My opinion on presidential pardons is that one I was

1408
01:23:15,080 --> 01:23:15,840
Speaker 1: not consulted in.

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01:23:15,880 --> 01:23:21,679
Speaker 32: No, I'm asking you your opinion about miss Roelberg. Should

1410
01:23:21,920 --> 01:23:26,280
Speaker 32: the person who created that dark web drug dealer situation?

1411
01:23:26,600 --> 01:23:27,959
Speaker 32: Should he be pardoned?

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01:23:28,000 --> 01:23:31,680
Speaker 1: In your opinion, Senator, It's not appropriate for me to

1413
01:23:31,720 --> 01:23:34,280
Speaker 1: speak on pardons, but I've spoken out against pardons, against

1414
01:23:34,280 --> 01:23:37,040
Speaker 1: cop killers and those who do violence and law enforcement.

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Speaker 18: We I'm with you on that.

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01:23:39,680 --> 01:23:42,400
Speaker 32: Okay, I'm with you. I'm with the chairman over here.

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01:23:43,080 --> 01:23:45,280
Speaker 32: But I'm just trying to find out on Obrook, you're

1418
01:23:45,280 --> 01:23:47,639
Speaker 32: gonna be you know again, bottom line here, You're gonna

1419
01:23:47,680 --> 01:23:50,640
Speaker 32: have a tough job and you're gonna have a tough boss.

1420
01:23:51,120 --> 01:23:53,519
Speaker 32: Because he gets in his mind he wants to do something,

1421
01:23:53,600 --> 01:23:56,880
Speaker 32: nothing gets in the way, and there's gonna become a

1422
01:23:56,920 --> 01:24:01,519
Speaker 32: time when an FBI director or or an attorney general

1423
01:24:02,240 --> 01:24:05,320
Speaker 32: has to make a decision about the Constitution and what's

1424
01:24:05,360 --> 01:24:09,360
Speaker 32: being requested, and can that person at that time when

1425
01:24:09,640 --> 01:24:13,080
Speaker 32: the important values of the Constitution are at stake, say

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01:24:13,160 --> 01:24:16,599
Speaker 32: no to a person who is insisting you take an action.

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01:24:18,080 --> 01:24:21,360
Speaker 1: And Senator, that's why I think it's time for the

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01:24:21,360 --> 01:24:23,679
Speaker 1: first time in this country's history that a public defender

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01:24:24,000 --> 01:24:25,960
Speaker 1: be the next director of the FBI, because no one

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01:24:26,000 --> 01:24:28,480
Speaker 1: knows more about constitutional due process than pds.

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01:24:28,600 --> 01:24:32,160
Speaker 32: Well, you know you're appealing to mutual pride here with

1432
01:24:32,280 --> 01:24:35,479
Speaker 32: the public defender. But you know what, I still understand

1433
01:24:35,560 --> 01:24:41,400
Speaker 32: you didn't answer the question. That's the public defender in me. Okay, Look, and.

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Speaker 10: I say this to my colleagues.

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01:24:43,400 --> 01:24:47,360
Speaker 32: We cannot have a weaponized Justice Department or FBI. And

1436
01:24:48,479 --> 01:24:51,040
Speaker 32: what's weaponized is in the eye of the beholder, like

1437
01:24:51,080 --> 01:24:52,880
Speaker 32: the prosecutions of President Trump.

1438
01:24:52,880 --> 01:24:55,479
Speaker 10: And I get that we cannot have it.

1439
01:24:56,080 --> 01:24:58,639
Speaker 32: But what I think we all have to acknowledge when

1440
01:24:58,640 --> 01:25:02,479
Speaker 32: we've got a president who's basically saying a political enemy,

1441
01:25:02,520 --> 01:25:05,479
Speaker 32: whether it's Harris, whether it's Liz Cheney, whether it's Adam Schiff,

1442
01:25:05,760 --> 01:25:10,280
Speaker 32: should be prosecuted. That's doing damage to the mutual goal

1443
01:25:10,439 --> 01:25:12,719
Speaker 32: we have of not weaponizing an apartment.

1444
01:25:13,160 --> 01:25:13,840
Speaker 4: I yield back.

1445
01:25:20,439 --> 01:25:24,040
Speaker 33: Thank you, mister Chairman, I appreciate it. Mister Brittell, thank

1446
01:25:24,040 --> 01:25:26,519
Speaker 33: you so much for being here to your family. I

1447
01:25:26,560 --> 01:25:28,840
Speaker 33: know that this has to be such an incredible moment.

1448
01:25:28,920 --> 01:25:31,679
Speaker 33: Congratulations and thank you for time to be a part

1449
01:25:31,720 --> 01:25:32,200
Speaker 33: of this with.

1450
01:25:32,200 --> 01:25:32,760
Speaker 4: All of us.

1451
01:25:33,560 --> 01:25:37,679
Speaker 33: Look, I have been diligently listening over the last few hours,

1452
01:25:37,880 --> 01:25:40,720
Speaker 33: and what I have heard you say is this, that

1453
01:25:40,840 --> 01:25:44,840
Speaker 33: your duty is to protect American citizens, that you will

1454
01:25:44,920 --> 01:25:48,519
Speaker 33: work to uphold the Constitution. I've heard you say you're

1455
01:25:48,520 --> 01:25:50,360
Speaker 33: going to get back to making sure you focus on

1456
01:25:50,600 --> 01:25:54,280
Speaker 33: violent crime. You said, I want children to have parks

1457
01:25:54,280 --> 01:25:57,479
Speaker 33: to play in, not needles to walk on. You said,

1458
01:25:57,520 --> 01:26:01,280
Speaker 33: I'm going to let cops be cops. You said we've

1459
01:26:01,280 --> 01:26:04,679
Speaker 33: got to get back to having full transparency. You said

1460
01:26:04,760 --> 01:26:07,880
Speaker 33: all request will be responded to, and all members of

1461
01:26:07,920 --> 01:26:12,200
Speaker 33: the Judiciary Committee for that, we say thank you. You

1462
01:26:12,320 --> 01:26:14,320
Speaker 33: said you were going to have the backs as you

1463
01:26:14,400 --> 01:26:17,720
Speaker 33: always have of law enforcement. You reminded us about being

1464
01:26:17,760 --> 01:26:21,080
Speaker 33: embedded and still Team six. You said, our law enforcement

1465
01:26:21,120 --> 01:26:25,080
Speaker 33: officers deserve the very best. You said, you know and

1466
01:26:25,120 --> 01:26:27,839
Speaker 33: you will not allow there to be victims of government

1467
01:26:27,960 --> 01:26:32,759
Speaker 33: overreach because it has happened to you you talked about

1468
01:26:32,800 --> 01:26:37,880
Speaker 33: having no intention of going backwards. You have talked about

1469
01:26:37,920 --> 01:26:42,479
Speaker 33: making sure that we actually address drug overdoses. You talked

1470
01:26:42,479 --> 01:26:45,559
Speaker 33: about your work with one point three million active duty

1471
01:26:45,680 --> 01:26:49,599
Speaker 33: service members making sure they had resources they needed. You've

1472
01:26:49,600 --> 01:26:53,280
Speaker 33: talked about de weaponizing and making sure that we don't

1473
01:26:53,320 --> 01:26:58,320
Speaker 33: politicize the department. You said America is the greatest nation.

1474
01:26:59,200 --> 01:27:03,000
Speaker 33: You said we fundamentally you believe that because you believe

1475
01:27:03,040 --> 01:27:06,400
Speaker 33: in the rule of law. You have told me personally,

1476
01:27:06,439 --> 01:27:08,880
Speaker 33: gone will be the days of identifying a person and

1477
01:27:08,920 --> 01:27:12,559
Speaker 33: looking for a crime. You have said everything you do

1478
01:27:12,720 --> 01:27:17,920
Speaker 33: will be factual and constitutionally based. You have said there

1479
01:27:17,960 --> 01:27:22,600
Speaker 33: will be no targeting based on someone's faith. You have

1480
01:27:22,800 --> 01:27:26,320
Speaker 33: said that when these FBI agents are upholding the law,

1481
01:27:26,640 --> 01:27:30,800
Speaker 33: you will always have their back. You have said that

1482
01:27:30,840 --> 01:27:34,599
Speaker 33: there will be a singular form of justice once again.

1483
01:27:35,560 --> 01:27:38,599
Speaker 33: And most importantly, I think in addition to all of

1484
01:27:38,640 --> 01:27:41,519
Speaker 33: this is I have really not gotten to hear you

1485
01:27:41,680 --> 01:27:45,479
Speaker 33: talk about the FBI, and so I would love you

1486
01:27:45,600 --> 01:27:47,840
Speaker 33: mentioned in the seven minutes that it takes one of

1487
01:27:47,880 --> 01:27:51,880
Speaker 33: these senators to ask you questions that unfortunately there are

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01:27:52,479 --> 01:27:58,080
Speaker 33: I believe you said three rapes, two overdoses, one murder. Look,

1489
01:27:58,240 --> 01:28:01,160
Speaker 33: yesterday we signed the Lake and Riley Act and the

1490
01:28:01,240 --> 01:28:04,240
Speaker 33: law President Trump did, and when we look at what's

1491
01:28:04,240 --> 01:28:08,360
Speaker 33: happening across our country with the surge of illegal migrants

1492
01:28:08,360 --> 01:28:10,560
Speaker 33: that have come in, When we look at fentanyl overdoses

1493
01:28:10,600 --> 01:28:12,519
Speaker 33: being the leading cause of death between the ages of

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01:28:12,520 --> 01:28:15,320
Speaker 33: eighteen and five, I've heard you say you want to

1495
01:28:15,360 --> 01:28:15,840
Speaker 33: tackle that.

1496
01:28:16,200 --> 01:28:17,280
Speaker 4: When we look.

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01:28:17,080 --> 01:28:20,559
Speaker 33: At parents like Lake and Riley's mother yesterday as she

1498
01:28:20,640 --> 01:28:23,599
Speaker 33: talked about her heart breaking loss that should have never happened,

1499
01:28:23,880 --> 01:28:28,400
Speaker 33: Rachel Maren's family there, Sarah Root's family there, Jocelyn Nungberry's

1500
01:28:28,439 --> 01:28:33,000
Speaker 33: family there. They deserve an FBI that is focused on

1501
01:28:33,240 --> 01:28:36,360
Speaker 33: finding these criminals and getting them out of here. So

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01:28:36,720 --> 01:28:38,360
Speaker 33: my question for you is, I'd like for you to

1503
01:28:38,400 --> 01:28:41,720
Speaker 33: talk about that. You've talked about cleaning up America, making

1504
01:28:41,800 --> 01:28:44,280
Speaker 33: it safe and secure for its people. Please tell the

1505
01:28:44,280 --> 01:28:45,800
Speaker 33: American people your plans.

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01:28:46,680 --> 01:28:49,080
Speaker 1: Thank you, Senator, I really appreciate it. And the two

1507
01:28:49,120 --> 01:28:51,280
Speaker 1: themes that, if I'm confirmed, that I have for the

1508
01:28:51,360 --> 01:28:53,920
Speaker 1: FBI are really just going back to keeping it simple.

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01:28:54,000 --> 01:28:55,599
Speaker 4: One, let good cops be cops.

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01:28:55,880 --> 01:28:59,040
Speaker 1: One hundred thousand drug overdoses, one hundred thousand rapes, seventeen

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01:28:59,080 --> 01:29:02,520
Speaker 1: thousand homicide. That's only with seventy percent of the precincts

1512
01:29:02,520 --> 01:29:07,120
Speaker 1: reporting in. That is violent crime exploding out of control.

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01:29:07,479 --> 01:29:10,200
Speaker 1: We've got thirty eight thousand employees at the FBI, and

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01:29:10,240 --> 01:29:12,880
Speaker 1: as I alluded to earlier, a third of them, almost

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01:29:12,920 --> 01:29:14,920
Speaker 1: a third of them work in and around the Washington,

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01:29:15,000 --> 01:29:17,040
Speaker 1: DC area. Well, those crimes are committed out in the

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01:29:17,080 --> 01:29:19,200
Speaker 1: rest of America, and I'm going to let good cops

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01:29:19,240 --> 01:29:21,320
Speaker 1: be cops and put handcuffs on the bad guys, and

1519
01:29:21,360 --> 01:29:23,920
Speaker 1: put child molestors in prison, and put murderers in prison,

1520
01:29:24,120 --> 01:29:26,720
Speaker 1: and make sure CCP fentanyl doesn't kill another one of

1521
01:29:26,760 --> 01:29:27,600
Speaker 1: your constituents.

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01:29:27,960 --> 01:29:28,800
Speaker 4: That's Track one.

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01:29:28,920 --> 01:29:32,840
Speaker 1: Track two to restore the trust in the FBI that

1524
01:29:32,960 --> 01:29:35,519
Speaker 1: is degraded, not by my opinion, by the Gallup poll

1525
01:29:35,680 --> 01:29:38,720
Speaker 1: that only forty percent of Americans have trust.

1526
01:29:38,360 --> 01:29:39,519
Speaker 4: And faith in the FBI.

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01:29:39,880 --> 01:29:43,880
Speaker 1: It is a cataclysmic failure in leadership to get to

1528
01:29:43,920 --> 01:29:44,439
Speaker 1: that point.

1529
01:29:44,439 --> 01:29:46,040
Speaker 4: That did not happen over time.

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01:29:46,360 --> 01:29:48,960
Speaker 1: And so what the FBI must do while tackling violent

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01:29:49,040 --> 01:29:52,680
Speaker 1: crime and protecting Americans national security in our sovereignty is

1532
01:29:52,800 --> 01:29:58,040
Speaker 1: work with Congress Republicans and Democrats to expose any government

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01:29:58,120 --> 01:30:02,920
Speaker 1: corruption provide government account of through transparency and get you

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01:30:03,040 --> 01:30:06,280
Speaker 1: all the documents that you are the custodians of the

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01:30:06,400 --> 01:30:10,240
Speaker 1: FBI reports to Congress. If I am confirmed as FBI director,

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01:30:10,280 --> 01:30:12,599
Speaker 1: I will report to Congress and I will just save

1537
01:30:12,680 --> 01:30:16,160
Speaker 1: you with this one caveat here about my personal experiences

1538
01:30:16,200 --> 01:30:19,120
Speaker 1: with the FBI. The men and women of the FBI

1539
01:30:19,360 --> 01:30:22,559
Speaker 1: do the most courageous work on God's green Earth. I

1540
01:30:22,720 --> 01:30:26,120
Speaker 1: was fortunate enough to utilize Faiza seven h two national

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01:30:26,120 --> 01:30:28,840
Speaker 1: security measures to prevent a shopping mall from blowing up

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01:30:28,880 --> 01:30:32,880
Speaker 1: in Houston and the state capitol from being attacked in California.

1543
01:30:33,320 --> 01:30:36,360
Speaker 1: Courageous men and women do that work every day, and

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01:30:36,400 --> 01:30:39,240
Speaker 1: these are cases you never hear about. Instead, the only

1545
01:30:39,280 --> 01:30:42,479
Speaker 1: things you hear about are the baseless conspiracy theories that

1546
01:30:42,560 --> 01:30:45,920
Speaker 1: attacks levied at me. Well here's something for America. You

1547
01:30:45,960 --> 01:30:48,959
Speaker 1: can say whatever you want about me if I'm confirmed,

1548
01:30:49,080 --> 01:30:51,800
Speaker 1: bring it on, but you will not denigrate the men

1549
01:30:51,840 --> 01:30:54,080
Speaker 1: and women of the FBI that save this country.

1550
01:30:54,360 --> 01:30:56,840
Speaker 15: Aymen, thank you, thank you, thank you.

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01:30:57,479 --> 01:31:00,280
Speaker 33: And speaking of I want to talk to you bit

1552
01:31:00,280 --> 01:31:02,639
Speaker 33: about how you're going to make sure that those men

1553
01:31:02,680 --> 01:31:05,519
Speaker 33: and women have the opportunity to get out and about

1554
01:31:05,560 --> 01:31:09,840
Speaker 33: throughout the country. And so when we look at that, obviously, Huntsville, Alabama,

1555
01:31:09,920 --> 01:31:13,280
Speaker 33: to me is a is a redstone. That's exactly right.

1556
01:31:13,360 --> 01:31:17,160
Speaker 33: Redstone Arsenal is a beacon of what you know we

1557
01:31:17,200 --> 01:31:19,759
Speaker 33: should we should look at putting our men and women

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01:31:19,840 --> 01:31:23,439
Speaker 33: out amongst the very people that they serve. And so

1559
01:31:23,560 --> 01:31:25,559
Speaker 33: in my next few minutes, I certainly want to talk

1560
01:31:25,600 --> 01:31:27,240
Speaker 33: to you about that. I'll save it for the next

1561
01:31:27,280 --> 01:31:31,200
Speaker 33: three but just finishing up on what's happening at our border.

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01:31:31,520 --> 01:31:35,439
Speaker 33: We saw under this previous administration that there were about

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01:31:35,880 --> 01:31:39,760
Speaker 33: I think one point seven million special interest aliens that

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01:31:39,800 --> 01:31:42,439
Speaker 33: came across our border. I think the House Judiciary Committee

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01:31:42,439 --> 01:31:45,440
Speaker 33: put it out. That's obviously from the twenty six countries

1566
01:31:45,479 --> 01:31:48,840
Speaker 33: that DHS determines have the greatest threat here in our homeland.

1567
01:31:49,479 --> 01:31:52,000
Speaker 33: When you're looking at how do you tackle that so

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01:31:52,320 --> 01:31:54,640
Speaker 33: you know they're in the interior. Additionally, the people on

1569
01:31:54,680 --> 01:31:56,760
Speaker 33: the terrast watch list, the hundreds of people that have

1570
01:31:56,800 --> 01:31:59,360
Speaker 33: been released into our country, how do you man your

1571
01:31:59,400 --> 01:32:02,040
Speaker 33: men and women and to go and find those individuals

1572
01:32:02,320 --> 01:32:04,240
Speaker 33: and make sure that our country is safe.

1573
01:32:04,360 --> 01:32:06,439
Speaker 1: This is going to require a collection of law enforcement

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01:32:06,560 --> 01:32:09,400
Speaker 1: what we call eighteen eleven agents across the various agencies,

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01:32:09,439 --> 01:32:12,360
Speaker 1: specifically HSI and Secretary of NOME are going to be

1576
01:32:12,360 --> 01:32:15,720
Speaker 1: prioritized with tasking and going after illegals to follow the

1577
01:32:15,800 --> 01:32:18,040
Speaker 1: law and the orders issued by the White House. But

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01:32:18,160 --> 01:32:20,960
Speaker 1: also at the same time, the FBI possesses an enormous

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01:32:20,960 --> 01:32:24,000
Speaker 1: amount of resources to go into our jails and find

1580
01:32:24,000 --> 01:32:28,120
Speaker 1: those already imprisoned and with pending deportation orders, with pending

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01:32:28,200 --> 01:32:29,920
Speaker 1: violations of their parole status.

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01:32:30,000 --> 01:32:31,639
Speaker 4: So if I'm confirmed, the full.

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01:32:31,479 --> 01:32:34,559
Speaker 1: Resources of the FBI, where appropriate, will be committed to

1584
01:32:34,600 --> 01:32:37,480
Speaker 1: that cause. But I believe primacy rests with other agencies.

1585
01:32:37,479 --> 01:32:41,160
Speaker 33: Excellent, Thank you so much, Senator Shiff.

1586
01:32:42,960 --> 01:32:43,599
Speaker 3: Mister Pttel.

1587
01:32:43,800 --> 01:32:46,840
Speaker 11: Early in this hearing, Senator Durban asked you about the

1588
01:32:46,920 --> 01:32:50,120
Speaker 11: January sixth choir of Inmates whose song you promoted, and

1589
01:32:50,160 --> 01:32:53,479
Speaker 11: here's what you said, I did not have anything to

1590
01:32:53,560 --> 01:32:57,120
Speaker 11: do with the recording. I did not have anything to

1591
01:32:57,200 --> 01:32:59,400
Speaker 11: do with the recording. Do you stand by that testimony?

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01:33:00,000 --> 01:33:03,599
Speaker 4: Well, Senator, what I said was I didn't do the recording.

1593
01:33:04,560 --> 01:33:06,719
Speaker 11: You said you didn't have anything to do with the recording,

1594
01:33:07,640 --> 01:33:11,360
Speaker 11: which is interesting because here's what you told Steve Bannon

1595
01:33:11,400 --> 01:33:15,120
Speaker 11: on his podcast. So what we thought would be cool

1596
01:33:15,240 --> 01:33:18,400
Speaker 11: is if we captured that audio, and then of course

1597
01:33:18,479 --> 01:33:21,160
Speaker 11: had the greatest President, President Donald J. Trump, recite the

1598
01:33:21,160 --> 01:33:24,360
Speaker 11: pledge of allegiance. Then we went to a studio and

1599
01:33:24,439 --> 01:33:27,960
Speaker 11: recorded it, mastered it, digitized it, and put it out

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Speaker 11: as a song now releasing exclusively on the worm We

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01:33:32,400 --> 01:33:36,000
Speaker 11: We We. If you had nothing to do with it,

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01:33:36,560 --> 01:33:39,920
Speaker 11: mister Pateell, why did you tell Steve Bannon all his listeners.

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01:33:39,520 --> 01:33:43,080
Speaker 4: That you did? That's why it says we, as you highlighted.

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01:33:43,320 --> 01:33:44,560
Speaker 7: Yeah, and you're part of the we.

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01:33:44,920 --> 01:33:48,840
Speaker 11: Right when you say we, that includes you, doesn't, mister Pateell.

1606
01:33:48,840 --> 01:33:49,879
Speaker 4: Not in every instance?

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01:33:50,120 --> 01:33:53,040
Speaker 3: Well that's new.

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01:33:53,560 --> 01:33:56,559
Speaker 11: So when you said we, you didn't really mean you.

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01:33:57,360 --> 01:33:58,360
Speaker 11: Is that your testimony?

1610
01:33:58,560 --> 01:34:00,519
Speaker 4: Not unless you have a new definition of the word we.

1611
01:34:00,960 --> 01:34:04,120
Speaker 11: Oh okay, I always thought we included the person who

1612
01:34:04,160 --> 01:34:07,519
Speaker 11: pronounced the word, but maybe not. Well you also said this,

1613
01:34:07,640 --> 01:34:11,920
Speaker 11: mister Pottel. We were able to capture the recording thanks

1614
01:34:11,920 --> 01:34:14,320
Speaker 11: to their courageous singing, and we were able to take

1615
01:34:14,360 --> 01:34:17,120
Speaker 11: it to a studio. So let me ask you, mister Pettell,

1616
01:34:17,200 --> 01:34:20,200
Speaker 11: after saying we took it to a studio, did you

1617
01:34:20,280 --> 01:34:20,639
Speaker 11: take it.

1618
01:34:20,600 --> 01:34:23,519
Speaker 4: To a studio me personally, No, after you.

1619
01:34:23,479 --> 01:34:26,760
Speaker 11: Said that we digitized and recorded it and all that.

1620
01:34:27,400 --> 01:34:29,519
Speaker 11: Did you take it to a studio and digitize and

1621
01:34:29,560 --> 01:34:31,240
Speaker 11: record it me personally?

1622
01:34:31,280 --> 01:34:31,360
Speaker 29: No?

1623
01:34:31,520 --> 01:34:34,839
Speaker 11: Okay, So you were lying to Steve Bannon and his audience.

1624
01:34:34,880 --> 01:34:35,599
Speaker 3: Is that what you're saying?

1625
01:34:35,760 --> 01:34:38,880
Speaker 4: No, I was using the proverbial wi appropriately.

1626
01:34:38,960 --> 01:34:45,320
Speaker 11: Royal we oh, I see. And so you certainly promoted

1627
01:34:45,360 --> 01:34:46,800
Speaker 11: the hell out of it though, didn't you.

1628
01:34:48,080 --> 01:34:50,080
Speaker 1: I don't know what that means. But I promoted the

1629
01:34:50,160 --> 01:34:53,360
Speaker 1: heck out of raising money for families in need.

1630
01:34:54,000 --> 01:34:58,040
Speaker 11: With promotions on social media and saying you were going

1631
01:34:58,120 --> 01:34:59,879
Speaker 11: to get this to number one on the billboards.

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01:35:00,040 --> 01:35:00,719
Speaker 15: R mister Bettel.

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01:35:02,080 --> 01:35:02,760
Speaker 4: I think it did.

1634
01:35:03,640 --> 01:35:06,120
Speaker 11: Yes, it did, Yes, it did. Isn't that great? People

1635
01:35:06,400 --> 01:35:09,640
Speaker 11: violently attacked police have a number one song thanks to you,

1636
01:35:09,760 --> 01:35:13,040
Speaker 11: mister Bottel. That's something to be really proud of. Now

1637
01:35:13,080 --> 01:35:16,200
Speaker 11: you've claimed, you've claimed, mister Bottel, you didn't know about

1638
01:35:16,200 --> 01:35:18,120
Speaker 11: any of these people in the choir. Is that right?

1639
01:35:18,960 --> 01:35:21,640
Speaker 1: I did not know about the violent offenders, and I

1640
01:35:21,680 --> 01:35:24,479
Speaker 1: did not participate in any of the violence in and

1641
01:35:24,479 --> 01:35:24,920
Speaker 1: around me.

1642
01:35:25,000 --> 01:35:28,519
Speaker 11: January, Tell me, mister Bttel, what due diligence did you

1643
01:35:28,720 --> 01:35:31,679
Speaker 11: do to find out who is in the choir before

1644
01:35:31,720 --> 01:35:36,040
Speaker 11: you promoted their beautiful music, these people assaulted law enforcement.

1645
01:35:36,360 --> 01:35:37,679
Speaker 11: What due diligence did.

1646
01:35:37,560 --> 01:35:40,519
Speaker 4: You do, Senator, I didn't record it myself.

1647
01:35:40,160 --> 01:35:43,720
Speaker 11: So you did no due diligence before you promoted this

1648
01:35:44,280 --> 01:35:46,000
Speaker 11: song by these violent felons.

1649
01:35:46,000 --> 01:35:48,080
Speaker 1: Is that what you're telling us, Senator I did not

1650
01:35:48,240 --> 01:35:49,840
Speaker 1: record that myself.

1651
01:35:49,880 --> 01:35:54,080
Speaker 11: So you're being considered for director of the FBI, and

1652
01:35:55,000 --> 01:35:59,040
Speaker 11: here you did no diligence to find out whether people

1653
01:35:59,120 --> 01:36:01,759
Speaker 11: you were with now the President of the United States

1654
01:36:01,840 --> 01:36:07,800
Speaker 11: in song, were convicted of attacking police officers. Is that

1655
01:36:07,880 --> 01:36:10,120
Speaker 11: who we want running the FBI. I want you to

1656
01:36:10,160 --> 01:36:13,479
Speaker 11: turn around. They're Capitol police officers behind you. They're guarding us.

1657
01:36:13,520 --> 01:36:16,040
Speaker 11: Take a look at them right now. Turn around.

1658
01:36:16,840 --> 01:36:18,479
Speaker 4: I'm looking at you. You're talking about you.

1659
01:36:18,720 --> 01:36:19,559
Speaker 3: Look at them.

1660
01:36:20,000 --> 01:36:21,639
Speaker 11: I want you to look at them if you can,

1661
01:36:21,720 --> 01:36:23,320
Speaker 11: if you have the court, to look them in the eye,

1662
01:36:23,400 --> 01:36:26,160
Speaker 11: mister Bottel, and tell them you're proud of what you did.

1663
01:36:26,520 --> 01:36:29,360
Speaker 11: Tell them you're proud that you raised money off of

1664
01:36:29,400 --> 01:36:33,559
Speaker 11: people that are that assaulted their colleagues, that pepper sprayed them,

1665
01:36:33,760 --> 01:36:36,519
Speaker 11: that beat them with poles. Tell them you're proud of

1666
01:36:36,520 --> 01:36:39,320
Speaker 11: what you did. Mister Butttel, they're right there. They're guarding

1667
01:36:39,360 --> 01:36:41,120
Speaker 11: you today. Tell them how proud you are.

1668
01:36:41,160 --> 01:36:42,800
Speaker 4: That's an abject line, you know it.

1669
01:36:42,960 --> 01:36:49,080
Speaker 1: I've never, never, ever accepted violence against law enforcement.

1670
01:36:49,200 --> 01:36:51,920
Speaker 4: I've worked with these men and women, as you know you.

1671
01:36:53,640 --> 01:36:55,600
Speaker 4: I did not make a single dime out of it.

1672
01:36:55,960 --> 01:36:58,200
Speaker 11: So well, let me let met you asked them.

1673
01:36:58,560 --> 01:37:02,280
Speaker 4: I see about that as this, mister Patel.

1674
01:37:02,479 --> 01:37:07,280
Speaker 11: Let me ask you this. If an FBI director promoted

1675
01:37:07,320 --> 01:37:10,439
Speaker 11: a song of people who sprayed pepper spray in the

1676
01:37:10,479 --> 01:37:13,360
Speaker 11: face of an FBI agent, would you say they were

1677
01:37:13,400 --> 01:37:17,479
Speaker 11: fit to be director, mister Schif Or no, would they

1678
01:37:17,520 --> 01:37:18,559
Speaker 11: be fit to be director?

1679
01:37:18,840 --> 01:37:20,759
Speaker 4: I am fit to be the director of the FBI.

1680
01:37:21,240 --> 01:37:23,800
Speaker 11: If you were the FBI director and you promoted a

1681
01:37:23,800 --> 01:37:26,960
Speaker 11: song with someone who beat an FBI agent with a pole,

1682
01:37:27,600 --> 01:37:30,000
Speaker 11: would you say you were fit to be FBI director?

1683
01:37:30,640 --> 01:37:33,639
Speaker 1: Mister Schiff, I am fit to be FBI director based

1684
01:37:33,640 --> 01:37:34,760
Speaker 1: on my sixteen.

1685
01:37:34,400 --> 01:37:36,760
Speaker 11: Years that you did all these things, mister Pattel. You

1686
01:37:36,800 --> 01:37:40,280
Speaker 11: can say, oh, I support law enforcement, I decry violence

1687
01:37:40,320 --> 01:37:43,400
Speaker 11: against law enforcement. You could say all that. It's what

1688
01:37:43,439 --> 01:37:46,639
Speaker 11: you did, mister Patel that matters. It's what you did

1689
01:37:46,680 --> 01:37:49,040
Speaker 11: that matters. Well, let me ask you about something else

1690
01:37:49,680 --> 01:37:53,559
Speaker 11: that you did, mister Battel, Did you claim that Donald

1691
01:37:53,600 --> 01:37:58,640
Speaker 11: Trump declassified all the documents at mar Lago? Did you

1692
01:37:58,680 --> 01:37:59,320
Speaker 11: claim that.

1693
01:38:00,080 --> 01:38:02,679
Speaker 4: What proceeding to the public?

1694
01:38:02,880 --> 01:38:07,760
Speaker 11: Ever, did you tell anyone that Donald Trump declassified all

1695
01:38:07,760 --> 01:38:09,360
Speaker 11: the documents of mar Laga.

1696
01:38:09,800 --> 01:38:14,160
Speaker 1: From publicly available information? President Trump issued a declassification order

1697
01:38:14,200 --> 01:38:15,400
Speaker 1: in a variety I'll.

1698
01:38:15,280 --> 01:38:17,280
Speaker 11: Just ask you, did you tell the public? Did you

1699
01:38:17,320 --> 01:38:21,000
Speaker 11: tell anyone? Did you make the claim that Donald Trump

1700
01:38:21,000 --> 01:38:24,800
Speaker 11: had declassified those hundreds of classified documents that were mar Lago?

1701
01:38:24,800 --> 01:38:25,880
Speaker 11: Did you make that claim?

1702
01:38:25,880 --> 01:38:28,599
Speaker 1: My best of my recollection, I said President Trump issued

1703
01:38:28,640 --> 01:38:31,520
Speaker 1: a declassification order to a large number of documents.

1704
01:38:31,600 --> 01:38:31,800
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1705
01:38:31,840 --> 01:38:34,400
Speaker 11: And were you present when he declassified all the mar

1706
01:38:34,400 --> 01:38:35,360
Speaker 11: A Lago documents?

1707
01:38:35,920 --> 01:38:38,320
Speaker 1: Senator, I'm not saying he declassified all the mar A

1708
01:38:38,400 --> 01:38:42,920
Speaker 1: Lago documents. I said President, Sir Trump declassified a large

1709
01:38:43,000 --> 01:38:45,640
Speaker 1: number of documents, and I would hope this committee and

1710
01:38:45,680 --> 01:38:48,040
Speaker 1: the rest of Congress would want to get those documents

1711
01:38:48,160 --> 01:38:48,920
Speaker 1: the American.

1712
01:38:49,160 --> 01:38:54,760
Speaker 11: Mister Bottel, before President or anyone declassified documents. Wouldn't you

1713
01:38:54,880 --> 01:38:59,760
Speaker 11: want to know whether making the public would would cost

1714
01:39:00,040 --> 01:39:03,200
Speaker 11: horses to be killed? Wouldn't you want to know that

1715
01:39:03,240 --> 01:39:05,800
Speaker 11: before you just declare they're all declassified. Wouldn't that be

1716
01:39:05,840 --> 01:39:08,120
Speaker 11: the responsible thing for a president to do?

1717
01:39:08,840 --> 01:39:12,280
Speaker 1: It was the responsible thing for us to do.

1718
01:39:12,760 --> 01:39:13,920
Speaker 11: And did Donald Trump take?

1719
01:39:14,000 --> 01:39:14,679
Speaker 4: No one died?

1720
01:39:14,880 --> 01:39:18,640
Speaker 11: And did Donald Trump ever ask any of the agencies

1721
01:39:18,680 --> 01:39:22,639
Speaker 11: who produced those documents whether declassifying them would put people's

1722
01:39:22,640 --> 01:39:25,200
Speaker 11: lives at risk? Did he ever do that? To your knowledge,

1723
01:39:25,360 --> 01:39:26,360
Speaker 11: Cash Pattel.

1724
01:39:26,960 --> 01:39:28,960
Speaker 4: I don't know that he didn't do you.

1725
01:39:29,000 --> 01:39:32,960
Speaker 11: No, that's the problem, isn't it. That's the problem, isn't it.

1726
01:39:33,720 --> 01:39:36,240
Speaker 11: So let me just ask mister Chairman if you would.

1727
01:39:36,320 --> 01:39:38,840
Speaker 11: Mister Pateell has said he has no problem, he would

1728
01:39:38,840 --> 01:39:41,439
Speaker 11: support the release of his grand jury testimony. In that case,

1729
01:39:41,880 --> 01:39:44,120
Speaker 11: I would ask you, mister Chairman, Rankymember to join me

1730
01:39:44,680 --> 01:39:49,439
Speaker 11: in requesting, with mister Patel's approval, the release of those

1731
01:39:49,479 --> 01:39:52,880
Speaker 11: grand jury transcripts. And I would also ask mister Bettel

1732
01:39:52,920 --> 01:39:55,920
Speaker 11: whether you support the release of Volume two, as it

1733
01:39:55,920 --> 01:40:00,679
Speaker 11: pertains to you of the Special Council's Report, any reference

1734
01:40:00,720 --> 01:40:03,800
Speaker 11: to you and the report to your truthfulness. Will you

1735
01:40:03,920 --> 01:40:07,560
Speaker 11: support the release to this Committee of those sections of

1736
01:40:07,640 --> 01:40:09,559
Speaker 11: Volume two a Special Counsel's Report.

1737
01:40:09,760 --> 01:40:12,560
Speaker 1: I support following the law and providing whatever information the

1738
01:40:12,680 --> 01:40:13,400
Speaker 1: law requires Well.

1739
01:40:13,520 --> 01:40:17,240
Speaker 11: You said to the Wall Street Journal that you support transparency.

1740
01:40:17,280 --> 01:40:20,160
Speaker 11: Here's your chance, mister Prattel, you support release of that

1741
01:40:20,200 --> 01:40:20,919
Speaker 11: to this committee.

1742
01:40:21,000 --> 01:40:21,439
Speaker 3: Yes or no?

1743
01:40:23,960 --> 01:40:27,280
Speaker 27: Your time's up before I call on Senator tell Us.

1744
01:40:27,520 --> 01:40:31,000
Speaker 27: I have letters here from law enforcement groups for reverysaying

1745
01:40:31,080 --> 01:40:37,720
Speaker 27: three hundred and ten thousand officers supporting mister Pattel's nomination,

1746
01:40:38,479 --> 01:40:43,200
Speaker 27: and they'd be like the Association of Police Organizations, National

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Speaker 27: Police Association, United Federation and Police Officers, Police Be Benevolent Association,

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Speaker 27: United Coalition for Public Safety.

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Speaker 15: I'll put these in the record, Senator tell Us, thank.

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Speaker 34: You, mister Chairman and mister Patel, thanks for being I

1751
01:41:01,720 --> 01:41:06,040
Speaker 34: want to thank my colleague Center Wells for being so

1752
01:41:06,160 --> 01:41:08,960
Speaker 34: measured and respectful in the way that he engaged with you.

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Speaker 34: I just want to cover a few things, and I

1754
01:41:10,960 --> 01:41:12,680
Speaker 34: don't know if it'll take seven minutes or not.

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Speaker 10: I want to go back to the.

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Speaker 34: We versus eyes. Since it was the last discussion. Other

1757
01:41:18,160 --> 01:41:21,519
Speaker 34: people may not been paying attention. I've only I've only

1758
01:41:21,520 --> 01:41:26,200
Speaker 34: missed Senator Booker's questions. But in your exchange with my

1759
01:41:26,360 --> 01:41:29,840
Speaker 34: colleague from one of my former states that I lived in, Louisiana,

1760
01:41:30,720 --> 01:41:35,559
Speaker 34: he repeatedly said you with respect to preparing a memo

1761
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Speaker 34: or documents, and you repeatedly said we. So you are

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01:41:39,600 --> 01:41:42,120
Speaker 34: somebody who's not like a lot of people around here

1763
01:41:42,160 --> 01:41:44,080
Speaker 34: that say I a lot, even though it was the

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Speaker 34: we that got things done. So I, for one, appreciate

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01:41:47,400 --> 01:41:51,479
Speaker 34: how you focus on that. Now, let's talk about how

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01:41:51,560 --> 01:41:55,720
Speaker 34: things change over time. I don't know if president are

1767
01:41:55,760 --> 01:41:59,919
Speaker 34: if the presidential candidate Clinton ever ever claimed that President

1768
01:42:00,000 --> 01:42:01,799
Speaker 34: Trump was legitimately elected.

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Speaker 10: I know that Stacy Abrams.

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Speaker 34: Never really, I think, allowed or acknowledged that Governor Kemp

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01:42:09,000 --> 01:42:12,920
Speaker 34: was governor until the second time she lost. I don't

1772
01:42:12,960 --> 01:42:16,480
Speaker 34: know what's wrong with you simply saying that President Biden.

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Speaker 10: Is duly elected.

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Speaker 34: Now, I believe that Cider Welsh is actually asking for

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01:42:21,240 --> 01:42:23,400
Speaker 34: a legitimate reason, but most people aren't.

1776
01:42:23,520 --> 01:42:25,519
Speaker 10: Most people are going to say, now we got you.

1777
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Speaker 34: Now we're going to create a wedge between you and

1778
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Speaker 34: the president and other people by using that word that

1779
01:42:31,520 --> 01:42:36,320
Speaker 34: they can absolutely exploit. So you've answered the question president

1780
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Speaker 34: Biden was duly elected. I don't have any problem with

1781
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Speaker 34: say anyone because I certified the election along with so

1782
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Speaker 34: many others.

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Speaker 10: On January the sixth. Now, let me talk about January

1784
01:42:45,960 --> 01:42:47,640
Speaker 10: the sixth. Y'all may not know this.

1785
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Speaker 7: I don't know if it's public.

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Speaker 10: I can't imagine why it'd be classified.

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Speaker 34: This was the room that we retreated to on January

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01:42:54,479 --> 01:42:57,880
Speaker 34: the sixth. I was the last Senate member out of

1789
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Speaker 34: the chamber. Was actually approached by one of the Vice presidents.

1790
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Speaker 34: One of the vice president's details say it's time to go.

1791
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Speaker 34: Part of it was because I was really angry, angry

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Speaker 34: in a little way, want to fight, which was probably

1793
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Speaker 34: not a good idea. But what I saw and what

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01:43:15,040 --> 01:43:17,320
Speaker 34: I saw for these people, and it's unfair to tell

1795
01:43:17,360 --> 01:43:19,280
Speaker 34: you to get up, order you to physically get up

1796
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Speaker 34: and turn around. It's a great tactic used frequently here

1797
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Speaker 34: in the committee. But you were right to engage the

1798
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Speaker 34: senator respectfully in the line of questioning.

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Speaker 7: I looked at all the.

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Speaker 34: Ones who were in the chamber on January the sixth,

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Speaker 34: and they were heroes. I looked at the ones after

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Speaker 34: I transcended down the stairs and went into the trains

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Speaker 34: connecting the Capitol. Those heroes were bloody, they were bruised,

1804
01:43:42,840 --> 01:43:45,439
Speaker 34: and they were still holding the line. And we saw

1805
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Speaker 34: and heard people fifty yards away. Every one of those

1806
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Speaker 34: people in the Capitol. I've said, we're thugs, and I

1807
01:43:51,400 --> 01:43:54,720
Speaker 34: don't apologize for it. They were either caught up in

1808
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Speaker 34: the moment and didn't do damage to a police officer.

1809
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Speaker 34: Are they harmed a police officer? And I disagree. Absolutely

1810
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Speaker 34: had set it on the Senate floor with the pardons

1811
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Speaker 34: of people who did harm to the president. And I've

1812
01:44:06,400 --> 01:44:09,680
Speaker 34: had conversations with you that suggest that if you had

1813
01:44:09,680 --> 01:44:12,280
Speaker 34: been consulted on that, we'd probably had a little bit

1814
01:44:12,320 --> 01:44:17,040
Speaker 34: different structure for the pardons. Folks, this man understands what

1815
01:44:17,240 --> 01:44:20,920
Speaker 34: happens when the leadership of a law enforcement agency fails

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Speaker 34: to protect their own. And I have to admit that

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Speaker 34: in the last administration, I saw a commander in chief

1818
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Speaker 34: who looked the other way when you should have been

1819
01:44:28,920 --> 01:44:33,040
Speaker 34: saying that people who were mostly peaceful protesters in Kenosha

1820
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Speaker 34: with a building burning in the background, well, they had

1821
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Speaker 34: a righteous cause, so it's okay if they harm law

1822
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Speaker 34: enforcement or public safety officers. And when they damaged a

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Speaker 34: federal building in Portland and they harmed police officers there,

1824
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Speaker 34: I didn't see anybody calling for arrest and the insurrection

1825
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Speaker 34: in those government buildings. Federal buildings, Folks, let's be consistent

1826
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Speaker 34: because I am. I said it then and I said

1827
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Speaker 34: it now. These folks are heroes. They got us to

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Speaker 34: this room. We spend hours, and they were so successful

1829
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Speaker 34: with securing this building.

1830
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Speaker 10: We went back the same day and finished our job.

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Speaker 34: That only happened because of these proud law enforcement officers,

1832
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Speaker 34: and I know you.

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Speaker 4: Would support them.

1834
01:45:13,920 --> 01:45:15,799
Speaker 10: Okay, let me take your breath.

1835
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Speaker 34: You answered the question on section seven oh two, But

1836
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Speaker 34: I have to refer to my friend Alex Padilla. We

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01:45:22,880 --> 01:45:26,280
Speaker 34: co chair of the Mental Health Caucus together. I love

1838
01:45:26,479 --> 01:45:29,680
Speaker 34: working with them. One of the problems around here with

1839
01:45:29,760 --> 01:45:32,600
Speaker 34: people who pretend like they're bipartisan but they never do

1840
01:45:32,680 --> 01:45:36,080
Speaker 34: it when it's hard, is that they also make it

1841
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Speaker 34: more difficult for other people. When Section seven oh two

1842
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Speaker 34: was reauthorized at April of twenty twenty four, we had

1843
01:45:43,160 --> 01:45:45,880
Speaker 34: four or five of our members agreed to walk the

1844
01:45:45,920 --> 01:45:48,679
Speaker 34: plank to make sure that the end. And I didn't,

1845
01:45:48,720 --> 01:45:51,880
Speaker 34: by the way, because I wanted the reforms done. But

1846
01:45:51,960 --> 01:45:54,919
Speaker 34: I have to say I'm glad that they did because

1847
01:45:55,000 --> 01:45:58,479
Speaker 34: I just had a colleague say they were guilty of

1848
01:45:58,560 --> 01:46:02,600
Speaker 34: bending a knee. What they were guilty of is protecting

1849
01:46:02,640 --> 01:46:06,479
Speaker 34: this nation. Now, were they happy that the reforms weren't done.

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Speaker 34: Now I've heard John Corny say things, Mike Lee's got

1851
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Speaker 34: a lot of senator lead Senator of corner, They've got

1852
01:46:12,040 --> 01:46:14,040
Speaker 34: a lot of great ideas, and we should reform it.

1853
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Speaker 34: But that's what's wrong with this place, folks.

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Speaker 7: We just had.

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Speaker 34: Somebody here try and do an offhanded hit on people that,

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Speaker 34: on a bipartson basis reauthorize something that is critically important for.

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Speaker 7: Keeping this nation safe.

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Speaker 34: So I guess the inference is next time, don't do that,

1859
01:46:30,840 --> 01:46:34,439
Speaker 34: be partisan, go dark and danger the US.

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Speaker 10: So come on, guys, let's be real here.

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Speaker 34: If anything, I hope I've been consistent on let's just

1862
01:46:39,520 --> 01:46:43,599
Speaker 34: be balanced. You know, really, you've had colleagues, We've had

1863
01:46:43,600 --> 01:46:45,799
Speaker 34: colleagues on the other side of the all called President

1864
01:46:45,840 --> 01:46:52,000
Speaker 34: Trump an illegitimate president. Now we have the witness has

1865
01:46:52,080 --> 01:46:56,639
Speaker 34: acknowledged that President Biden's election was certified. If you want

1866
01:46:56,680 --> 01:46:59,280
Speaker 34: to use a specific word, what are we in high school?

1867
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Speaker 7: I mean, come on.

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Speaker 35: So I do have to tell you, though, Cash, I've

1869
01:47:05,880 --> 01:47:10,000
Speaker 35: had bingo a couple of times, and I have a

1870
01:47:10,000 --> 01:47:12,280
Speaker 35: feeling by the time we get to the third round

1871
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Speaker 35: we will again.

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Speaker 4: I hope you put a lot of money on it.

1873
01:47:14,560 --> 01:47:17,479
Speaker 34: Said, you know what, you know what, I put a

1874
01:47:17,520 --> 01:47:20,120
Speaker 34: lot of I won't call it money, but capital one.

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01:47:20,680 --> 01:47:24,439
Speaker 10: It's the due diligence I've done on you and the extraordinary.

1876
01:47:23,800 --> 01:47:25,280
Speaker 4: Job you're doing in this committee.

1877
01:47:25,600 --> 01:47:28,719
Speaker 34: One of the reasons you're seeing frustration among people asking

1878
01:47:28,760 --> 01:47:31,680
Speaker 34: you questions is you're composed, you're respectful.

1879
01:47:31,960 --> 01:47:34,400
Speaker 10: You reached out to every one of them and asked

1880
01:47:34,400 --> 01:47:36,280
Speaker 10: to meet with them. They've thanked you.

1881
01:47:36,160 --> 01:47:36,800
Speaker 7: For doing that.

1882
01:47:36,880 --> 01:47:39,559
Speaker 34: I suspect that those conversations with a lot better than

1883
01:47:39,600 --> 01:47:41,639
Speaker 34: the TV personalities that we've seen today.

1884
01:47:43,000 --> 01:47:46,320
Speaker 10: So you've got I've got fifty minutes.

1885
01:47:47,040 --> 01:47:48,559
Speaker 34: You want to wrap up on it, and I'm going

1886
01:47:48,600 --> 01:47:50,280
Speaker 34: to come back for the second round you want to

1887
01:47:50,280 --> 01:47:52,920
Speaker 34: wrap up on Let me just ask you this question.

1888
01:47:53,240 --> 01:47:55,639
Speaker 34: I went to the floor yesterday to make it very clear.

1889
01:47:55,680 --> 01:47:58,320
Speaker 34: I've been thinking these Capitol police officers, and I told

1890
01:47:58,360 --> 01:48:01,120
Speaker 34: them I thought, I actually thought that the part of

1891
01:48:01,160 --> 01:48:04,000
Speaker 34: some people who did harm the police officers sucked. And

1892
01:48:04,080 --> 01:48:06,240
Speaker 34: I told them that at every one of these security

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01:48:06,360 --> 01:48:08,040
Speaker 34: entrances when I come in and I stand by it,

1894
01:48:08,040 --> 01:48:11,080
Speaker 34: and I respectfully disagree with the President or whoever likely

1895
01:48:11,120 --> 01:48:14,080
Speaker 34: gave him advice, because the President has to rely on

1896
01:48:14,160 --> 01:48:17,760
Speaker 34: best advice for some of these executive orders. But I

1897
01:48:17,920 --> 01:48:21,920
Speaker 34: make no apology for saying that the men and women

1898
01:48:22,080 --> 01:48:24,960
Speaker 34: on Capitol Hill that got us safely to this building

1899
01:48:25,040 --> 01:48:25,840
Speaker 34: are heroes.

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01:48:26,320 --> 01:48:28,960
Speaker 10: The people who harm them are thugs.

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01:48:29,360 --> 01:48:30,320
Speaker 7: But they're out now.

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01:48:30,760 --> 01:48:32,280
Speaker 10: So here's their opportunity.

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01:48:32,320 --> 01:48:36,120
Speaker 34: Mister Patel, you find the people that you were convicted

1904
01:48:36,160 --> 01:48:40,679
Speaker 34: of harming, call them, write them a letter, apologize to them.

1905
01:48:41,120 --> 01:48:43,960
Speaker 10: And if you don't and you come to Capitol Hill,

1906
01:48:43,600 --> 01:48:43,880
Speaker 10: I will.

1907
01:48:44,080 --> 01:48:46,800
Speaker 34: I will track you down and I will burden you

1908
01:48:46,960 --> 01:48:49,880
Speaker 34: until you do. Now run out of time, I'll be

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Speaker 34: back for a second room.

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Speaker 6: Center Moody, Well, thank you, Chairman. I appreciate that, and

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Speaker 6: thank you for being here. I know this has been

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01:48:59,080 --> 01:49:02,200
Speaker 6: a long day. I am the junior most senator, so

1913
01:49:02,320 --> 01:49:05,360
Speaker 6: you know I go last. But ever since I got here,

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01:49:05,400 --> 01:49:09,400
Speaker 6: and it's been a whole week, I get told two

1915
01:49:09,439 --> 01:49:13,479
Speaker 6: things when I rush up to my fellow senators. Number one,

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Speaker 6: are you Senator britt.

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Speaker 10: At?

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Speaker 6: Number two, you know, the Senate is a body that

1919
01:49:20,520 --> 01:49:25,439
Speaker 6: is deliberative and calm, and I ain't anything. But so

1920
01:49:25,520 --> 01:49:27,160
Speaker 6: I don't know how the next couple of years is

1921
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Speaker 6: gonna look. But I hope that they'll bear with me

1922
01:49:29,720 --> 01:49:31,800
Speaker 6: servant as the age. Over the last four years, I've

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01:49:31,840 --> 01:49:33,400
Speaker 6: seen a lot of things out of these agencies that

1924
01:49:33,439 --> 01:49:35,719
Speaker 6: I never thought we'd see in the United States of America.

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01:49:35,800 --> 01:49:38,240
Speaker 6: I know my fellow attorney's general around the nation would

1926
01:49:38,280 --> 01:49:40,519
Speaker 6: agree with me. In fact, some of them are here

1927
01:49:40,560 --> 01:49:42,760
Speaker 6: today to support you. I'd love to introduce them with

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01:49:42,800 --> 01:49:45,720
Speaker 6: they'll stand up. The Attorney general from South Carolina, the

1929
01:49:45,760 --> 01:49:49,320
Speaker 6: former Utah Attorney General, Sean rey Is. I'm sorry, Alan Wilson.

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Speaker 6: I didn't say your name is South Carolina AG. And

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01:49:51,560 --> 01:49:56,360
Speaker 6: Louisiana AG. Liz Merrill, they were. They joined me, thank

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Speaker 6: you for being here. They joined me and signing on

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01:49:59,200 --> 01:50:03,639
Speaker 6: to a letter support awarding your nomination, and we did

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Speaker 6: that while I was still the Attorney General over a

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Speaker 6: week ago. They came here today to support you, and

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Speaker 6: mister Chairman, I know that you've been referencing a lot

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Speaker 6: of letters that you've been entered into evidence. I'd like

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Speaker 6: this to be entered into the record. Sorry, I'm talking

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Speaker 6: like a trial lawyer with consent, please, sir. This is

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01:50:23,280 --> 01:50:26,040
Speaker 6: signed by twenty four states attorneys general that support the

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Speaker 6: nomination of mister Patel. One of the things that I

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01:50:30,120 --> 01:50:36,400
Speaker 6: have been most upset about is watching federal agencies take

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01:50:36,560 --> 01:50:41,320
Speaker 6: more and more and more power and step all over

1944
01:50:41,680 --> 01:50:46,320
Speaker 6: the dual sovereignty of state and local law enforcement and

1945
01:50:46,360 --> 01:50:51,720
Speaker 6: investigations and prosecutions. I know you, like me, served in

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01:50:51,800 --> 01:50:55,400
Speaker 6: both the state criminal justice system and the federal criminal

1947
01:50:55,520 --> 01:50:58,639
Speaker 6: justice system. I was a federal prosecutor, a state judge,

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01:50:58,640 --> 01:51:01,439
Speaker 6: and a state attorney general. You know you crossed over

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Speaker 6: those jurisdictions. Do I have your commitment as the director

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Speaker 6: of the FBI that you will respect dual sovereignty of

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01:51:09,720 --> 01:51:13,360
Speaker 6: the federal government the FBI to pursue its investigations of

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01:51:13,439 --> 01:51:19,160
Speaker 6: federal laws and respect local and state law enforcement pursuing

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Speaker 6: violations of their own laws, even when there may be

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Speaker 6: overlap of investigations.

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Speaker 1: Center Not only do you have my commitment, if you

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Speaker 1: have May for the first time ever, the National Sheriff's

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Speaker 1: Association has endorsed the nominee to be the director of

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Speaker 1: the FBI. Thirty one hundred sheriffs deputies across the country

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Speaker 1: have endorsed me for one reason. I think primarily because

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Speaker 1: I'm committed to local level law enforcements to state jurisdiction. Washington,

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Speaker 1: DC cannot fix the problems of this country, but everyday

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Speaker 1: cops can and do it every single day. And so

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Speaker 1: if I'm confirmed as FBI director, We're going to work

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Speaker 1: with local law enforcement because they're going to tell us

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Speaker 1: what they need, and we're going to give them everything

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Speaker 1: we can. But we are not going to trample and

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Speaker 1: local law enforcement because they're the ones keeping our community

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Speaker 1: safe just as much as anyone here.

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Speaker 6: The citizens of Florida will be happy to hear that,

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Speaker 6: as well as Americans. As you know, after the second

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Speaker 6: assassination attempt, which took place in the state of Florida

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Speaker 6: against a Florida resident now President Donald Trump, many people

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Speaker 6: were surprised that that could happen in just over two months.

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Speaker 6: Many people were shocked that would be assassin could get

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Speaker 6: that close to a president after it had just happened

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Speaker 6: so quickly. So needless to say, many Americans, and certainly

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Speaker 6: for Floridians, demanded a transparent and accountable investigation of that

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Speaker 6: second assassination attempt. I was tasked, along with law enforcement

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Speaker 6: in Florida to pursue that investigation, and every step of

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Speaker 6: the way, federal law enforcement, the FBI specifically, and the

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Speaker 6: attorney's Federal attorneys frustrated our efforts, told us we couldn't

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Speaker 6: go on the crime scene, they wouldn't share evidence. They

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Speaker 6: suggested that we would be violating the law if we

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Speaker 6: pursued our own investigation, even in the face of us

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Speaker 6: telling them and informing them that a six year old

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Speaker 6: girl almost died as a result of state and local

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Speaker 6: law enforcement having to shut down the roads to pursue

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Speaker 6: that would be assassin and I'm not going to use

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Speaker 6: his name in an unprecedented action. Because of these frustrated efforts,

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Speaker 6: I as the Attorney General of Florida, had to sue

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Speaker 6: the DOJ and Merrick Garland because they refused and obstructed

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Speaker 6: our ability to prosecute and investigate our own laws against

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Speaker 6: one of our own citizens, even in the face of

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Speaker 6: such distrust of the FBI, who was pursuing an investigation

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Speaker 6: against the victim himself. So at a time when you

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Speaker 6: have data that shows that Americans trust and THEI is

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Speaker 6: lowest point in history when the FBI is not trust

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Speaker 6: trusted by local and state law enforcement, can you think

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Speaker 6: of a better time for the FBI to say, yes,

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Speaker 6: Florida investigators, come in, let's work this together, not to

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Speaker 6: the detriment of the investigation, but in a collaborative effort.

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Speaker 6: Can you think of a better time to have done that,

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Speaker 6: rather than hide beside some law that they said prevented

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Speaker 6: us from moving forward with our own investigation.

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Speaker 1: Center Off the top of my head, I can't, but

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Speaker 1: let me just say this. Law enforcement is not supposed

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Speaker 1: to be territorial. Law enforcement is not supposed to be

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Speaker 1: a turf battle. Law enforcement is best done in this

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Speaker 1: country when it's complimentary, and it should have been done

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Speaker 1: in that instance.

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Speaker 6: Do I have your commitment now?

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Speaker 11: Mind you?

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Speaker 6: I'd like to enter into evidence the record.

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Speaker 4: I'm sorry.

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Speaker 6: The complaint that we filed against Merrick Garland, the complaint

2016
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Speaker 6: for declared to an injunctive relief. This was a result

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Speaker 6: of the FBI obstructing our investigation at every turn. Do

2018
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Speaker 6: I have your commitment that as soon as you are confirmed,

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Speaker 6: which I believe you will be, that you will address

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Speaker 6: this suit, interface with the investigators and the lawyers in

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Speaker 6: Florida and began cooperating with us so that we might

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Speaker 6: pursue justice for that little girl. Absolutely, And I'll just

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Speaker 6: finally end with yes. I have had a lot of

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Speaker 6: work experiences as you have working on the front lines

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Speaker 6: with law enforcement to go after those violating laws. But

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Speaker 6: I am also the wife of a law enforcement agent

2027
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Speaker 6: federal now local. We need somebody at the HELM that

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Speaker 6: understands the mission is to stand on that line between

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Speaker 6: good and evil, between crime and chaos.

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Speaker 4: There is no other mission.

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Speaker 6: And we trust that you're going to right size this

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Speaker 6: agency and set it back on course.

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Speaker 3: And I am proud to support you.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, Senator.

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Speaker 27: Is there any rejection among the committee for her request

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Speaker 27: in certain things in the record?

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Speaker 15: I hear none.

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Speaker 27: So ordered now we start our second round, three minutes

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Speaker 27: each one. I've spoken on this issue many times. I

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Speaker 27: may have even discussed it with you in my office.

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Speaker 27: The FBI's Foreign Influenced Task Force inappropriated inappropriately brief me

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Speaker 27: and Senator Johnson. That briefing was later used to falsely

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Speaker 27: tie our Biden family investigation to you can expect, to

2044
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Speaker 27: Russian disinformation. Our investigation was based on records from both

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Speaker 27: the Obama and the Biden administrations, along with various bank records.

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Speaker 27: Over four years later, the FBI has yet to provide

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Speaker 27: us the underlying intelligence that they said formed the basis

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Speaker 27: for the briefing, So, if confirmed, I want you to

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Speaker 27: work with me to finally get to the bottom of

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Speaker 27: what happened here, including providing me and Senator Johnson with

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Speaker 27: related records.

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Speaker 4: You have that commitment center.

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Speaker 27: If confirmed, defund the police movement and other anti law

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Speaker 27: enforcement rhetoric has reduced morale among law enforcement, and maybe

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Speaker 27: some of that's carried over to the FBI. I don't know,

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Speaker 27: But what will you do at the FBI to help

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Speaker 27: improve morale and increase retention of the brave men and

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Speaker 27: women serving at the FBI or in law enforcement generally?

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Speaker 1: Senator I think the answer dovetails with the mission set

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Speaker 1: of the FBI. In order to increase recruitment, in order

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Speaker 1: to maintain the force capacity at the Federal Bureau of Investigation,

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Speaker 1: we need to incentivize police officers and good cops to

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Speaker 1: be cops, to let them get out there and do

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Speaker 1: the mission that they signed up to do, which is

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Speaker 1: protect our community against gang violence, against rapists, against thugs,

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Speaker 1: against murderers.

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Speaker 4: Against terrorists.

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Speaker 1: And I will prioritize, if confirmed, every resource that we

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Speaker 1: have to make sure the eighteen elevens in the field

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Speaker 1: and the FBI staff are dedicated to that mission set alone,

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Speaker 1: and if we achieve that with the work of congressional transparency,

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Speaker 1: then I believe the retention rates and the enrollment rates

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Speaker 1: at the FBI will skyrocket.

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Speaker 7: You spent ten years in public defending.

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Speaker 27: What's the biggest lesson you took away from that experience?

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Speaker 1: The awesome powers of the United States government when bearing

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Speaker 1: down against an individual charge with some very serious crimes,

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Speaker 1: some heinous crimes. And the biggest lesson is twofold one

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Speaker 1: that the defense has a right, every defendant has a

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Speaker 1: right to constitutional due process, and not a piece of it,

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Speaker 1: but all of it, one hundred percent, every single day.

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Speaker 1: And on the other side, there needs to be a

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Speaker 1: measured action that follows constitutional due process and doesn't violate

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Speaker 1: the civil liberties of those that we are seeking to

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Speaker 1: hold against violations of law. And that balance is one

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Speaker 1: of the most important lessons I learned as both a

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Speaker 1: public defender and a national security prosecutor at the Department

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Speaker 1: of Justice.

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Speaker 27: Eighty years ago, Attorney General Robert Jackson said something like.

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Speaker 4: Being a prosecutor is.

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Speaker 27: The most powerful office in the country because he's got

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Speaker 27: the power.

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Speaker 7: To ruin people.

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Speaker 27: If you want to ruin people, you've.

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Speaker 15: Probably been up against some of that I have.

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Speaker 27: Yeah, what you've mentioned