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Speaker 2: aka John.

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Speaker 5: Sorry, Tyler, Hey, everybody, have a good I'm reguardy, b

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Speaker 5: A K. Mike aka Mother get one over on on bro.

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Speaker 2: I was just gonna say possible that I was enjoying

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Speaker 2: Father's Day too much and completely forgot we were recording

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Speaker 2: a podcast tonight.

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Speaker 3: But that's not what happened for you possible, But that's

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Speaker 3: not what happened. It didn't happen.

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Speaker 6: But if it did, good for you.

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Speaker 4: But it didn't.

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Speaker 6: But you know what I mean. But it didn't.

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Speaker 2: But if it did, apparently I was completely off my

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Speaker 2: phone all day. I had a great Sunday. Apparently there

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Speaker 2: was a big NBA trade today. Uh is it true

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Speaker 2: that Bradley Beal is a Phoenix sun?

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Speaker 7: It's just going to be true, right, is it? It's

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Speaker 7: it's it's going to happen, definitely, But it hasn't happened. Right,

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Speaker 7: I want to trip. I haven't logged on the phone.

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Speaker 4: In a while.

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Speaker 6: I help somebody please?

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Speaker 2: That's it up time on the clock over there, John

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Speaker 2: are off the phone.

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Speaker 8: The answer is it is assuredly going to happen, but

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Speaker 8: it has not happened yet because the whoever the teams

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Speaker 8: that are involved are trying to find a third team

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Speaker 8: to redirect Chris Paul too, most likely the Clippers is

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Speaker 8: potentially the Clippers, but even that is not like done done.

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Speaker 3: So can you read us the terms of the trade

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Speaker 3: there are?

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Speaker 8: They haven't reported the final terms because of this is happening.

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Speaker 8: All we know for sure is that Chris Paul and

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Speaker 8: Landry Shamman are leaving the Suns. Landry Shammon most likely

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Speaker 8: going to the Wizards. Bradley Beal is joining the Suns

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Speaker 8: or joining yeah, sorry, joining the Suns. The Wizards are

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Speaker 8: also getting a couple second round picks and a couple

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Speaker 8: pick swaps. That's what we know.

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Speaker 6: Whatever that means.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, they getting wait, Landry sham Yeah, it's Chris and

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Speaker 7: second round pick.

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Speaker 8: The same Chris Paul that was nearly waved a week

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Speaker 8: ago is being traded with. It was added included with

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Speaker 8: Landry Shammitt, some seconds and some pick swaps for Bradley

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Speaker 8: bial Yes correct, you heard it correct.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So basically the dude who they weren't going to

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Speaker 1: pick back up Landry Shammitt and some fucking twenty twenty

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Speaker 4: It's how they got Bradley Beal.

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Speaker 7: Basically, they emptied the trash, gave it to Wizards, and

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Speaker 7: got Bradley Beal. That's so that's what happened. I think

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Speaker 7: the trash out came back with Bradley. No crazy the horse.

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Speaker 2: Had just been talking about, you know, like obviously there's

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Speaker 2: been a lot of chatter about brad Beil moving but

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Speaker 2: that contract is quite an albatross, and so I wonder

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Speaker 2: if that has something to.

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Speaker 3: Do with what do you what are you making that?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, hold hold on, what are you?

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Speaker 6: What's Joe?

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Speaker 3: John? What do you love? Because I said albatross?

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Speaker 4: I just yes, yes, you know, go ahead.

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Speaker 6: I'm sorry you saw me over here.

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Speaker 1: I was gonna say, like if the sure looks like

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Speaker 1: the Wiz was just like, yeah, we gotta get this

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Speaker 3: Do they think Wenby is coming out next year?

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Speaker 2: I don't like they started the fire sale early. I

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Speaker 2: just I don't really understand the timing on like why

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Speaker 2: the season last year? Or you know what I mean,

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Speaker 2: I don't, I don't, I don't get it.

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I'm not a capologist. John's making a face, Yeah, suggest

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Speaker 4: I'm not.

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Speaker 6: I'm confused by all this too. I have the same

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Speaker 7: That's why I was trying to maybe come up with

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Speaker 7: some answer why they would do it now?

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Speaker 2: And I just let's talk about the Suns. We'll talk

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Speaker 2: about the trade from each of the different angles. But

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Speaker 2: let's talk about the Suns.

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Speaker 6: I popped on it.

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Speaker 2: I literally popped onto Twitter for thirty seconds after Vinnie's

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Speaker 2: also team lost their baseball game today and I saw

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Speaker 2: the word super team in four consecutive tweets, and I

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Speaker 2: immediately turned my phone off and put.

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Speaker 3: In my bucket.

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Speaker 2: But people are talking about this is a new super team,

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Speaker 2: obviously with Book and Kadi and Beal.

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Speaker 3: What do y'all think?

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Speaker 2: I mean, we've been discussing through these playoffs about how

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Speaker 2: the Super Team.

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Speaker 3: Era building that way is kind of dead. This is

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Speaker 3: a Sun's team that already was massively struggling with depth

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Speaker 3: that is going. You know, what we were.

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Speaker 2: Missing was one more guy and then nothing after that

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Speaker 2: because they're obviously not gonna have much flexibility to do

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Speaker 2: anything else. Do you think this makes the Suns better

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Speaker 2: and better enough for them to be kind of pushing

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Speaker 2: all the chips in on this window right now with KD.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the fact of the matter is they basically

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Speaker 1: just gave up Landry Shannitt, you know, for fucking Bradley

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Speaker 1: be Off. Of course, it's makes the right team, right. You

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Speaker 1: make that trade a million times? Like I said, you

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Speaker 1: know when I saw, you know, the specifics of this trade.

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Speaker 1: I was like, Bro, Washington just wanted to dump that contract,

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Speaker 1: Like that's how much it looked, like like you know,

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Speaker 1: Phoenix got to steal here. But you know, of course

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Speaker 1: it makes them a better team. You know, Bradley Beal

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Speaker 1: is a fucking hooper, you know, a thirty point per

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Speaker 1: game guy at one point. But it doesn't make them

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Speaker 1: good enough to come out the West, doesn't make them

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Speaker 1: better than Denver. You know, I'm not seeing that at all.

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Speaker 1: You know, we'll see how they fill out the rest

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Speaker 1: of that bench. But you got fucking four guys on

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Speaker 1: the max now eating up all that cap, Like like,

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Speaker 1: who the fuck are you gonna get? You know what

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Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like you gotta be super thirsty to be

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Speaker 1: a rank chaser for you know, to sign with the

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Speaker 1: team that got they ass beat by the team that

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Speaker 1: just won the rank too, right, Like you're gonna get

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Speaker 1: dumb the cheap even though they haven't proven that, you know,

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Speaker 1: it's an easy path through ring. So so honestly, I'm

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Speaker 1: not sure how they fill out to the rest of

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Speaker 1: that roster. Like I said, they got four guys on

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Speaker 1: the max here, so We'll see how the rest of

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Speaker 1: that plays out. But of course you make that trade

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Speaker 1: for Bill. But like I said, we got to see it.

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Speaker 1: What else they do with the Stros because, like you said,

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Speaker 1: death was a huge issue for them this postseason.

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Speaker 7: I don't think there's anything they can do that would

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Speaker 7: have that'll make them better than the teams that.

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Speaker 6: Are already better than them.

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Speaker 7: Like like, this doesn't this and whoever they can afford

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Speaker 7: to get will not allot will not help them beat

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Speaker 7: that Denver team. They're still out in the second round

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Speaker 7: of the playoffs, you know what I mean, Like, of

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Speaker 7: course you make that trade because, like you said, it

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Speaker 7: makes you better. And you just gave up Landry Shammick

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Speaker 7: because Chris Paul was already on the outs. You know,

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Speaker 7: they were talking about waving him last week. But it's

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Speaker 7: I mean, I don't believe in this super team, and

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Speaker 7: I don't believe in the super team anymore.

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Speaker 6: Actually, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 7: I believe in well coached, good quality teams with solid depth.

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Speaker 7: You know, call me old fashioned. Well you know what

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Speaker 7: I'm saying. That's you know what I'm saying. That's we've

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Speaker 2: I think The thing to keep in mind though, is yes,

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Speaker 2: like esthetically that's in trend right now is building teams

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Speaker 2: that way. But also with the new cap rules, it

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Speaker 2: is as of this year much harder to build a

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Speaker 2: super teams. Here's the numbers on the Suns. Their current

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Speaker 2: team salary with Bill kd Book eight and campaign and

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Speaker 2: Ish Wainwright is one hundred and seventy one million dollars.

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Speaker 2: The cap is at one forty and that second apron

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Speaker 2: that is effectively a hard cap is one seventy nine

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Speaker 2: looking at that, you have to think they're getting ridy.

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Speaker 2: They're moving eight to use that to free that up.

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Speaker 3: To that's really the half option they've got.

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Speaker 2: You have to and so then at that point, you know,

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Speaker 2: are you getting enough depth out of thirty million dollars

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Speaker 2: to fill literally an entire NBA.

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Speaker 3: Roster outside of those three spots.

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Speaker 2: I don't think this these new cat rules allow you

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 1: Since we're on the topic, I just want to discuss

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Speaker 1: how I do not like the way the Sons have

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Speaker 1: handled eighting at all in.

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Speaker 6: The last few years.

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Speaker 1: Actually, you know what I mean, Yeah, I mean, I mean, look,

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Speaker 1: I mean that was my concern when this trade happened.

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Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, now you're making eight in the

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Speaker 1: the fourth option. Now where's he going to get these

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Speaker 1: touches to help them still come along as a player.

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Speaker 1: And and you know, it goes back to to you know,

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Speaker 1: a couple of seasons back when when when they were like,

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Speaker 1: we're not giving eight in the max, and then they

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Speaker 1: they they puple said that for whatever the fuck reason, because.

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Speaker 4: I never got the lots beyond that.

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Speaker 1: And then they gave him the MAXI sign him along, right,

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Speaker 1: and then we saw him check out this postseason when

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Speaker 1: when Jock Landell was getting his minutes.

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Speaker 4: So it's it's like, I'm.

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Speaker 1: Not really a fan of the way they've handled aight,

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Speaker 1: and I mean, and and then then they brought along

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Speaker 1: Vogue and we're like, Okay, maybe they still believe in

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Speaker 1: ain't because you know, vogues whole brand is front court defense, right,

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Speaker 1: We saw what he did with with PG and Hibbard

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Speaker 1: and and fucking a D right like that's his his stamp,

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Speaker 1: of his his fucking signature. And we're like, you know,

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Speaker 1: maybe you know, he sees something that they ain't here.

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Speaker 1: Maybe that's why the Sun's brought m along because they

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Speaker 3: Now we'll see how it works for him.

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Speaker 2: You know, the math is challenging, being thirty million over

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Speaker 3: All right, let's talk about you know what this looks

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Speaker 2: You know you all said clearly they're just trying to

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Speaker 2: this he's one of the dirty, doesn't he's one of

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Speaker 2: the dirty doesn't. Would I love to have had his

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Speaker 3: But you know, I think Adam has season tickets.

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Speaker 2: Or at least they go to games regular and he

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Speaker 3: Kyle Kuzma does something cool, Like.

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Speaker 2: That's basically what you're there for, Like are you trying

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Speaker 3: It's just I don't know, man, what do you think

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Speaker 6: For Wists?

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Speaker 4: Tell you.

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Speaker 1: I can tell you as as someone who you know

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Speaker 4: I'm looking at that. You know who they're hosting. I'm

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Speaker 1: I'm not taking that fucking five hour round trip, you know,

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Speaker 4: No shots to Brad, but yeah, it's it's your Clippers

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Speaker 2: That's how everyone always looked at the Clippers, like is

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Speaker 3: Is Chuck in town?

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Speaker 1: Exactly exactly, That's exactly the only reasons I would ever

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Speaker 1: to just give shouts out to brad Bill because I

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Speaker 4: He played this shit perfectly.

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Speaker 1: Like, look, when his dealers up in twenty twenty six,

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Speaker 1: twenty seven or whatever, he will have had the NB

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Speaker 1: right like, he's stayed with the team that drafted him.

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Speaker 1: He cashed out on. He got every penny fucking possible

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Speaker 1: You say, you keep signing with the team that drafted you,

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Speaker 1: got a fucking no trade clause put in on a

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Speaker 1: two hundred fifty million dollar deal. He got a no

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Speaker 4: Like, do y'all realize how crazy that is? Right?

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Speaker 1: Like? Who is this motherfucker's agent, Doug? He got a

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Speaker 1: fucking trade right like? So he signed that fucking super

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Speaker 1: because I'm gonna just get these motherfuckers under who on

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Speaker 1: on the hook that I'm gonna go find, you know,

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Speaker 4: It looks like that's what he's doing right now.

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Speaker 1: So you know, shouts said that man shouts his agent

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Speaker 1: because god damn, like I said, four hundred and thirty million,

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Speaker 1: and he got a fucking no trade clause on a

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Speaker 1: two hundred fifty million dollar max.

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Speaker 6: Well, I just John, just how many more years?

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Speaker 7: Is?

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Speaker 6: How many more years does he have on that contract.

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Speaker 4: He's got, Like his deal is up what twenty six

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Speaker 7: It's some years and then no trade clause follows him

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Speaker 7: wherever he goes, Right, that's part of the contract as

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Speaker 6: That's not just with DC. The deal.

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Speaker 8: He has three more seasons fully guaranteed a player option

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Speaker 8: for fifty seven million and twenty six twenty seven and

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Speaker 8: then he's a creator.

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Speaker 7: God damn, I'm gonna keep a stack with you. I'm

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Speaker 7: gonna kep a stay with you. I don't know about

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Speaker 7: take that trade. I don't know if it make the trade.

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Speaker 6: Like, and the only reason.

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Speaker 7: I'm saying is, like talk about the cap issues, right,

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Speaker 7: it's not gonna make you a better team than you

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Speaker 7: already are. It makes you better, but it doesn't make

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Speaker 7: you better in the way that's gonna make you. It's

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Speaker 7: gonna get you further along in the playoffs, like if

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Speaker 7: they you know, like and also like we saw with KD.

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Speaker 7: We saw at Bradley Beal last year that they it's

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Speaker 7: hard for him to stay healthy and with that lack

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Speaker 6: And they've shown that they're not. Their bodies aren't holding

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Speaker 6: up in those way anymore. I don't know if I

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Speaker 6: make that trade, you know. And then you old man.

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Speaker 7: Fifty seven and I you know, people get this money, nigga,

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Speaker 7: Fuck everybody, Nigga get your bread.

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Speaker 6: So I'm talking like I'm talking about it.

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Speaker 7: On the other side, like I'm happy getting this break

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Speaker 7: and the no trade class he get his money regardless.

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Speaker 6: I love to see that, you know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 6: Big Saint louis like a motherfuckers.

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Speaker 7: But on the other side, I'm like, I don't know

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Speaker 7: if I make that trade, like you know what I'm saying, Uh,

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Speaker 7: seeing like how much you owe him long term? No

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Speaker 7: trade claws and it doesn't make you better in the

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Speaker 7: ways that you need to get better, to be better,

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Speaker 7: to go further than you went this past year.

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Speaker 2: So Tyler mentioned, uh, brad Beil's agent. It is worth

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Speaker 2: noting as the trade goes through or as the trade

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Speaker 2: has been broken on Father's Day, brad Beil's agent is

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Speaker 2: the father of the son CEO.

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Speaker 4: Some real life success shit going on, right.

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Speaker 6: Something going on over their pay shows, see, But good for.

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Speaker 3: Him the top Bottles or whatever the fuck household that is.

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Speaker 1: B I mean, I mean, look, look, I'm just I'm

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Speaker 1: just gonna say. I think we just need to put

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Speaker 1: it out here that I think a lot of why

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Speaker 1: this needle doesn't move for us is because we might

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Speaker 1: be coming to grips with KD not being the same

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Speaker 4: We saw, yeah, we saw.

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Speaker 1: Like like bro if you gonna do shit with with

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Speaker 1: not the same guy who you were four or five

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Speaker 1: years ago when you signed on with Brooklyn. Truth of

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Speaker 1: the matter is it's been two underwhelming postseasons in a

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Speaker 1: row for KD. And of course his underwhelming still looks great, right, Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 1: of course underwhelming still looks great. But he has not

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Speaker 1: been looking like the KD of O the last two postseasons.

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Speaker 1: I think the best series KD ever had was that

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Speaker 1: don't think he's reached that level of postseason basketball since

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Speaker 1: in these In these I mean.

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Speaker 7: I would, yes, yes, but that level was even good

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Speaker 7: for I mean that was twenty and seventeen was probably

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Speaker 7: the best KD other than that series, right, that final

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Speaker 7: series where he just dominated like I think Brian average

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Speaker 7: triple double.

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Speaker 6: He was not the.

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Speaker 7: Best player on the court in that series, bro it

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Speaker 7: was KD. Right, But it's like that level is God's here.

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Speaker 6: I don't.

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Speaker 7: We don't expect them to be there, but I mean,

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Speaker 7: twenty seven a game, KD. I think he averaged what

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Speaker 7: twenty four like for the series prior to the Nuggets

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Speaker 7: or something like, Yeah, that's just I mean, it's it's good,

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Speaker 7: but it's not the KD.

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Speaker 6: But I don't I don't expect Milwaukee KD.

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Speaker 7: You know, that was that was Bro, That was that

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Speaker 7: was an evil villain, Broya, that was a superhero.

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Speaker 4: It was fucking Vanos for a minute.

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Speaker 1: But it's it's been like, shit, we We've talked in

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Speaker 1: the group chat like, Bro, motherfuckers are blocking Kd's jumper

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Speaker 1: so much now though, Bro.

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Speaker 7: We saw it three times in a series. Bro, what

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Speaker 7: uh Westbrook blocked it maybe three times alone in that series.

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Speaker 7: And so yeah, I mean does get the lift. He

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Speaker 7: can't stay healthy, you know, And I think that's part

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Speaker 7: of it as well. And you know, but these are

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Speaker 7: things that Bro, if these are things that you need minimally,

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Speaker 7: if you're going to put that much money into three guys,

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Speaker 7: you need to guarantee at least they'll be healthy in

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Speaker 7: the court. And two of them have improven that, you know.

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Speaker 7: So I mean, I haven't proved out in the last couple years.

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Speaker 7: And at their at their age, that makes sense. It's

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Speaker 7: just it's just not the I don't know, I don't.

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Speaker 7: I don't think this trade doesn't. It doesn't move on

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Speaker 7: the needle because of multiple reasons, I think.

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Speaker 2: But that that's a that's a great point. I think

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Speaker 2: you're exactly right about that. I also, let's talk about

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Speaker 2: Chris Paul. I think it's the last kind of facet

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Speaker 2: of this trade potentially being rerouted to the Clippers. Shout

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Speaker 2: out to uh, what's the name of the of the

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Speaker 2: dude be souls. On Twitter, Legion Hoops tweeted a picture

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Speaker 2: of Chris Paul, Kwhi and Paul George and said, who's

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Speaker 6: And head shoulders.

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Speaker 4: He was playing the hell out of that in the

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Speaker 4: crib too, Bro, sold me love that, Jo. This is like,

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Speaker 2: What happens at the end of every basketball player's career

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Speaker 2: if they play out until the end of it. But

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Speaker 2: it is kind of it is wild, Like I was

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Speaker 2: ready to physically assault David Stern when he kept Chris

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Speaker 2: being passed around like a laundry back.

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Speaker 4: Bro.

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Speaker 7: He's one hundred million years old. Bro, He's he's a dinosaur.

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Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying, He's Jurassic ma Gie, you

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Speaker 7: know what I'm saying, ancient, you know, like dog, and

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Speaker 7: like the man can't the man can't finish the season,

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Speaker 7: Like the contract he had prior was crazy to pay

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Speaker 7: him that that much for that long. And I mean

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Speaker 7: these are I mean, this is this is this? Does

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Speaker 7: he play another year after this? Like I mean maybe, but.

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Speaker 4: Should he wants to?

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Speaker 1: If he wants to make like, you know, his a

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Speaker 1: little six hundred a year, someone might might take him home.

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Speaker 1: But but yeah, it's ah, yeah, it's it's it's tough

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Speaker 1: because you know, as much as I might not like

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Speaker 1: such an incredible person off the court, Like how are

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Speaker 1: you such a dickhead on the court and you're just

443
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Speaker 1: like fucking the pope, like, you know, with all the

444
00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:22,840
Speaker 1: philanthropian ship that you do off the court, I've never

445
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Speaker 1: seen anything quite like it.

446
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Speaker 2: That story about Chris Paul and his Grandpa's like all

447
00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:28,359
Speaker 2: time story. Like if we were to make a list

448
00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:30,960
Speaker 2: of stories, guaranteed to make me fucking choke up. That's

449
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Speaker 2: like one of the time.

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Speaker 6: High school, yeah, high school, Yeah, yeah, yeah. I like

451
00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:38,240
Speaker 6: he's he's six foot, bro, he's probably he's probably.

452
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Speaker 7: Closer to five eleven, you know what I mean, like

453
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Speaker 7: five eleven, six foot playing the way he played, on

454
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Speaker 7: the level he played.

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Speaker 6: Bro, you're gonna have to be a dickhead d.

456
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Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying to get to get busy

457
00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:50,440
Speaker 7: at that side some motherfucker all time.

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Speaker 4: And he was five ten, I mean yeah, yeah, he was.

459
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Speaker 3: He was touched.

460
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Speaker 2: He was touched by the Lord with some gifts that

461
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Speaker 2: Chris Paul did not have.

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Speaker 7: Also athletically, you know what I'm saying. But I mean

463
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Speaker 7: about the thing with the I mean, but I just

464
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Speaker 7: God to your player, you know what I'm saying. And yeah,

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Speaker 7: I mean, how no fan base. It's just it's just

466
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Speaker 7: you know what I'm saying that speaks.

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Speaker 6: You know, there is it. It's just crazy. One of

468
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Speaker 6: the best point guards. Maybe this I am.

469
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Speaker 1: Such a fucking Chris Paul hater slash Chris Paul defender online,

470
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Speaker 1: Like I'm like, yeah, we can talk about how much

471
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Speaker 1: of a Dicati is, but we ain't gonna, you know,

472
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Speaker 1: disrespect that that motherfucker's game. He was a cold motherfucker

473
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Speaker 1: like you know that we need to find that balance, yeah, and.

474
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Speaker 6: Keeping it a stack.

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Speaker 7: I think I hate to say this about Aiden being

476
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Speaker 7: you know, but I feel like the reason Aydon was

477
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Speaker 7: as good as he was and made that jump was

478
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Speaker 7: because Chris Paul made the game.

479
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Speaker 1: So easy for him, making the game so easier for

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Speaker 1: his bigs.

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Speaker 7: And and I think the son saw that because when

482
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Speaker 7: Chris Paul, you know, started saw his body fall on

483
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Speaker 7: the part more not playing as much, we didn't see

484
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Speaker 7: Aiden as as successful as well, you know what I'm saying.

485
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Speaker 7: So I'm not trying to you know, I still think

486
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Speaker 7: they've been treating him in a particular way that I

487
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Speaker 7: don't respect, But I think that's what they saw. Like

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Speaker 7: he had Chris Paul, he had a god to your

489
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Speaker 7: point guard that just made gave him the ball.

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Speaker 6: That's kind of like what they do with Aaron Gordon, like

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Speaker 6: with the with.

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Speaker 7: The on, the on, the on, the on, the Nuggets

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Speaker 7: were like they give him the ball in situations where

494
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Speaker 7: he doesn't have to make decisions.

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Speaker 6: Bro, you know what I mean? You shoot or you

496
00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:30,520
Speaker 6: dunk that bitch nigga, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 7: Like, so that's what Aidan was in his positions where

498
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Speaker 7: like he didn't have to make a decision, like he

499
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Speaker 7: never had to think.

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Speaker 6: He just did.

501
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Speaker 7: Did you know he knew exactly what to do when

502
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Speaker 7: he got the ball, and Chris Paul made sure that

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Speaker 7: he got the ball in no situations.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, all right, Uh, let's talk about the we

505
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Speaker 2: have not recorded since the Nuggets parade, which I'm gonna

506
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Speaker 2: be honest with you, look like a great time. Looked

507
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Speaker 2: like everyone was having a fun time. Michael Malone as

508
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Speaker 2: as Tyler said, I mean, you're just gonna have to

509
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Speaker 2: be Mike Malone, Bro, because you're white.

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Speaker 6: Mic.

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Speaker 3: You're not white Michael. There's no such thing as a

512
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Speaker 3: white Michael Bro.

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Speaker 1: Like I said, I do not understand why that man

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Speaker 1: was so apprehensive about getting being called Mike, because that

515
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Speaker 1: motherfucker is a white Mic.

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Speaker 4: If I ever saw mother Mike, he is a textbook

517
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Speaker 4: white Mike.

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Speaker 1: He said, Brucie, b you ain't going nowhere, you go anywhere,

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Speaker 1: Hell no, ain't getting hid.

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Speaker 2: I was like, bro WISDS fan, But he said, we

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Speaker 2: some greedy motherfucker's just what he said.

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Speaker 4: I love that that.

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Speaker 1: I love that that Michael Malone put his squad on

524
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Speaker 1: the hook for another one because so many coaches shy

525
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Speaker 1: away from that ship, right, Like, like we've all seen

526
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Speaker 1: the iconic clip of when fucking you know Riley promised

527
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Speaker 1: that that the Lake Showtime was going to go back

528
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Speaker 1: to back. Then at the back to back parade, we

529
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Speaker 1: saw fucking Kareem put his hand over Riley's mouth before

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Speaker 1: you can guarantee. But Mike Malone was stepping out there

531
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Speaker 1: and saying, bro, we we want to run this ship back.

532
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Speaker 1: We're good enough to Like there's no fucking lie there.

533
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Speaker 1: He's not playing the fucking you know, cordial cliche ship.

534
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Speaker 4: And I love seeing that.

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Speaker 7: I mean he said it like eight seconds after winning

536
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Speaker 7: the first one, you know what I'm saying. Like it's

537
00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:07,640
Speaker 7: like the first thing that came out of his mouth

538
00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:09,320
Speaker 7: when they put the mic to him, you know what

539
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Speaker 7: I'm saying. But like he saw the same thing that

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Speaker 7: everybody else saw, and he's not pretending he didn't see

541
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Speaker 7: what we all saw. We're talking about a Spurs dynasty

542
00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:19,480
Speaker 7: talking about these dudes, you know what I mean. And

543
00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:21,520
Speaker 7: he sees and he knows the league better than we do.

544
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Speaker 7: You feel me, so talk yo shit, love that man,

545
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Speaker 7: and they should. They should run it on back, baby,

546
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Speaker 7: you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: I don't know that anyone had more fun than Jokich

548
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Speaker 2: who who said I know you think I don't want

549
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Speaker 2: to stay on parade, but I fucking want to stay

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Speaker 2: on parade.

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Speaker 7: This is the best time with the perfect tweet about that,

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Speaker 7: So Tyler to tweet about that, I didn't really want

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Speaker 7: to get out of the house with the homies.

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Speaker 2: But then he's glad he actually did get out of

555
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Speaker 2: the house to hang with the homies. He just like me,

556
00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:52,920
Speaker 2: for real, banger bro, so relatable.

557
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Speaker 1: I don't really want to get out of the house

558
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Speaker 1: and I go out the house and at the fucking

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Speaker 1: time of my life.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he's just so relatable.

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Speaker 1: You know. Like on the last episode I talked about

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Speaker 1: how he's not like Kobe and Jordan. He's just like,

563
00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:07,880
Speaker 1: you know, the fucking opposite in this of that spectrum,

564
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Speaker 1: because Jordan and Kobe's homestique is bro. There are very

565
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Speaker 1: few people who are as dedicated to anything as these two.

566
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Speaker 1: Art a basketball shit right with Yoka, just like bro,

567
00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:21,240
Speaker 1: you are I see so many people see themselves in

568
00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:23,800
Speaker 1: this dude who just wants to work go home and

569
00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:25,960
Speaker 1: he and he can't believe how much fun he has

570
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Speaker 1: when he actually does leave the house.

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Speaker 7: He literally said in the interview that everybody hates their job.

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Speaker 6: This is not abnormal. He said. Most people don't like

573
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Speaker 6: their job. Almost like their job.

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Speaker 3: They're lying, That's what he said.

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Speaker 6: So come on, man, love to see that.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's I don't I don't have anything else

577
00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:50,159
Speaker 2: to say, so I will say I did call. I

578
00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:53,199
Speaker 2: think I texted Tyler's tweet like two minutes after you

579
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Speaker 2: put it up, and I was like, this smells.

580
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Speaker 3: Like a six. Yeah, yeah, I guess smell it. That's

581
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Speaker 3: a very that's an exit.

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Speaker 2: All right, Let's talk about I mean, I think I

583
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Speaker 2: think you guys would prefer that I lead the conversation

584
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Speaker 2: on this. Let's talk about a company called bet Online

585
00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:20,119
Speaker 2: that has tweeted, we are proud to be the first

586
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Speaker 2: sports book to offer betting odds on the Special Olympics,

587
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Speaker 2: And then a Forbes article is diving into uh their offering.

588
00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:32,840
Speaker 2: They've got three hundred and fifty thousand volunteers, coaches, and athletes,

589
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Speaker 2: heading to Berlin to compete in the World Special Olympics.

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Speaker 2: Before I say my piece, I'm curious for your guys thoughts.

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Speaker 7: No, absolutely not, all right, absolutely not.

592
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Speaker 2: You have a perspective on the competition of the Special

593
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Speaker 2: Olympics that not a lot of people in sports media have.

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Speaker 3: I have.

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Speaker 2: I covered it for several years in Long Beach, this

596
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Speaker 2: the Southern Alifornia Special Olympics games I covered as a

597
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Speaker 2: sports writer, and I wrote a column that was shared

598
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Speaker 2: very widely in the Special Olympics community about why my

599
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Speaker 2: outlet chooses to cover it as a sporting event and

600
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Speaker 2: not as a humanitarian story, because usually the only journalists

601
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Speaker 2: at those events are features writers, right, people who are like, oh,

602
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:26,080
Speaker 2: this kid's overcoming all this stuff. And obviously there's a

603
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Speaker 2: ton of those amazing stories of the Special Olympics. Like, genuinely,

604
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Speaker 2: if you ever feel shitty about the world, go spend

605
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Speaker 2: ten minutes at any Special Olympics event. I promise you

606
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Speaker 2: will walk out of there feeling better about human beings. However,

607
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:41,200
Speaker 2: these motherfuckers are dogs too. Like I went and covered

608
00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:43,800
Speaker 2: the basketball game, I went cover their basketball championships.

609
00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:46,400
Speaker 3: Is dudes backing dudes down? Talking shit to each other.

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Speaker 2: The wheelchair race, you got people burning rubber on the track,

611
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Speaker 2: talking shit to each other. There was a dude out

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Speaker 2: there who ran a five minute mile. Bro, you know

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Speaker 2: what I mean? So and they compete, they compete like

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Speaker 2: motherfucker like. That was my point about it was from

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Speaker 2: the outside. I think you have this idea of like,

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Speaker 2: you know, this is what the Special Olympics is. It's

617
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:08,440
Speaker 2: like a punchline to a joke or whatever, you know,

618
00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:11,040
Speaker 2: punchline do a shitty joke that someone feels edgy for

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Speaker 2: telling or whatever. And like, for sure, bro, no one

620
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:16,520
Speaker 2: has more of a sense of humor about physical limitations

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Speaker 2: than the disabled community, at least the special and maybe

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Speaker 2: not necessarily the disabled community on Twitter. It's not the

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Speaker 2: best group of people to run across all the time.

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Speaker 1: You know, you know you you make a very good

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Speaker 1: point and it's something I pondered as well about. You know,

626
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Speaker 1: if it's sports, let's treated like sports right flat out.

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Speaker 4: But I want you to be honest with me here.

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Speaker 1: I might Yes, I told you I was gambling on

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Speaker 1: the Special Olympics.

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Speaker 4: How concerned for my gambling?

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Speaker 2: I would be pretty concerned, that's a fact. No, I

632
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:54,639
Speaker 2: mean I'll be putting like I'm all about honestly with it.

633
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:56,040
Speaker 2: I would be very concerned with you.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I think this is like their attempts to make kind

636
00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:01,840
Speaker 2: of the same point, but in a fucked up capitalist

637
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:03,400
Speaker 2: way that I was making this like.

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Speaker 3: These people take this shiit seriously? Why not bet on it?

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00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 4: You know?

640
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:07,800
Speaker 6: So?

641
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:11,159
Speaker 2: But yeah, bro, I understand for our friends who gamble,

642
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:12,479
Speaker 2: and you know, I got a lot of friends who

643
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:14,720
Speaker 2: bet on sports. I understand the summer is a long time.

644
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:17,359
Speaker 2: All you got to bet on is baseball. But you

645
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:19,520
Speaker 2: just gotta go spend time with your family to.

646
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Speaker 4: A football season.

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Speaker 2: Dog, you don't need to be betting on the BATCHI

648
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Speaker 2: ball special Olympic World Championship out.

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Speaker 3: You don't have to do it.

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Speaker 6: It ain't got to be that way, man, it ain't

651
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:32,840
Speaker 6: gotta be like that, you feel me?

652
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:39,720
Speaker 2: Oh Jesus Christ, All right, let's talk about Okay, I

653
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:42,680
Speaker 2: have a real podcast ass topic to close the show.

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Speaker 3: Are you all ready for this?

655
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:46,760
Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, let's get podcast. Okay.

656
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:48,720
Speaker 3: I was I was thinking about this, Dare, And I'm

657
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:51,160
Speaker 3: genuinely like you guys.

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Speaker 2: I respect your opinion so much, and you often have

659
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 2: a different opinion than mine, And you're two of my

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00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:58,240
Speaker 2: friends that have changed my opinion on stuff. So I'm

661
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Speaker 2: curious for your thoughts on this take. Do you think

662
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:08,480
Speaker 2: fathers are better now than in the previous generation? Like,

663
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 2: do you think our generation is doing a better job

664
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 2: as fathers than our parents or grandparents' generations by a trillion?

665
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:18,680
Speaker 4: Yeah? Easily?

666
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:19,560
Speaker 6: Yeah?

667
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 4: Do you do?

668
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 6: You do you think the opposite?

669
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:24,320
Speaker 2: No, But but a lot of people are like self

670
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:27,080
Speaker 2: deprecating about like how things are broken down, you know,

671
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 2: like that that there's so much anxiety and everything around

672
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 2: parenting that like, That's the only thing I would say

673
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:35,440
Speaker 2: I think is negative is I think our generation of parents,

674
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:38,720
Speaker 2: men and women worry a lot more than our parents'

675
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 2: generation did.

676
00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 3: And that I that I don't agree with.

677
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 2: It's very like people are very stressed out about every

678
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 2: little thing where it's like it's not you know what

679
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:47,800
Speaker 2: I mean.

680
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:49,400
Speaker 3: So, but that's the only thing I would say. But

681
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 3: go ahead, John, I.

682
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:52,320
Speaker 6: Don't think it's harder.

683
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:56,360
Speaker 7: I think there's certain things that are more complicated, like

684
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 7: the internet, shit shitting on it, right, I don't think

685
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 7: it's harder, but I think it's hard in the sense

686
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 7: that we like we are stressed were we have so

687
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 7: much information? Are so worried, Like you know, like my

688
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:10,080
Speaker 7: mom threw us in front of the TV and we

689
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:13,719
Speaker 7: watched you know what I'm saying, cartoons in like seven months,

690
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 7: you know what I mean?

691
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:15,560
Speaker 6: A year or whatever?

692
00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 7: Right, we're not letting so many watch TV for real?

693
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:20,120
Speaker 7: Two she's two, you know what I mean. So because

694
00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 7: we have all this information, we're scared of more things.

695
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 7: So it's more difficult in that way. But I think

696
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 7: we're definitely better. I mean, I told y'all, like me

697
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:33,040
Speaker 7: and my homies had a joke like before we were dads,

698
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 7: the niggas don't be having dads bro like cause niggas,

699
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:38,840
Speaker 7: even if your dad was in the house, your.

700
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,000
Speaker 6: Dad wouldn't act like a dad. You feel me like

701
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:43,600
Speaker 6: you couldn't confide in that motherfucker. You know what.

702
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 2: Friend, I graduated high school, I had one friend who

703
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:49,000
Speaker 2: is a who is a boy. I have one male

704
00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:51,480
Speaker 2: friend with a dad that I would have been bro.

705
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 2: I would love to have this man as my dad,

706
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:54,960
Speaker 2: like that was.

707
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 7: I have one friend I remember, I have one of

708
00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:01,960
Speaker 7: my best friends on our really good friends.

709
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 6: He graduated high school.

710
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 7: Dad was in the house, his whole life and a

711
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 7: teacher congratulate him, and you have a great son. You

712
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 7: know what I'm saying, He did greatest, God da da

713
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 7: And she looked at the teacher saying, he raised himself.

714
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 7: And that's the only dude that I know whose dad

715
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 7: was in the house with him like that. You feel

716
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 7: what I'm saying, Like, uh, my close friend groups at

717
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:27,960
Speaker 7: the crib. So like, Bro, we had a joke saying

718
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:29,040
Speaker 7: dads and have dads.

719
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:30,960
Speaker 6: You know what I mean. Niggas ain't got dads, you

720
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 6: feel me, But so I mean just showing up. We're better.

721
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:34,640
Speaker 6: But I also think like.

722
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:39,480
Speaker 7: We are way more. Like we've talked about this. If

723
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:45,560
Speaker 7: you are a deadbeat nigga canceled, Bro, can't be my homie.

724
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:49,000
Speaker 7: There is nothing I respect less. You know what I'm saying. Well,

725
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 7: obviously they are, but you know, you know, just you know,

726
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:53,880
Speaker 7: for the second of the conversation, I do not respect

727
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 7: you at all. If you ain't handling your responsibilities as

728
00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 7: a father, we can't even be friends, you know what

729
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 7: I'm saying. If I loved you, you know what I'm saying,

730
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 7: and we were homies like I'll live for a lot

731
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:05,440
Speaker 7: of ship. We talked about that, you know what I'm saying.

732
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 7: But that's one thing, bro, I'm just not you know,

733
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 7: we ain't standing for it. So I think we look

734
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 7: at that.

735
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:16,960
Speaker 2: I'd rather find out all summer, big facts, big facts.

736
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 7: You feel me as dudes that they would crack that

737
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 7: joke because of our experiences, we ain't. We ain't standing

738
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 7: for you knowing how that affects you and then doing

739
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 7: that same thing to your child.

740
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, That ain't it?

741
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:31,240
Speaker 4: Yeah? I think that.

742
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 1: I think that we're way more emotionally present than the

743
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:40,720
Speaker 1: dads that raised us, right, Like, I think a lot

744
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 1: of us, you know, you know, the ones that did

745
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 1: grow up with dads actually so.

746
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 7: Congratulations, my god, you know what I mean, one of

747
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 7: a few. I think I think we actually you're you're

748
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 7: an albatross.

749
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 3: That's not that means.

750
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:02,240
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, I know, I'm.

751
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 6: Just but but it was. But did you laugh?

752
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 4: Did you laugh? There we go?

753
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that that a lot of us who

754
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 1: did have dads saw dads who thought that just providing

755
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 1: was was enough for love, right And I want to

756
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 1: be clear that my dad was not like that. My

757
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 1: dad was a lovable, fucking my dad was soft spoken

758
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 1: and never raised his voice out us, never beat us.

759
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:27,120
Speaker 1: And they thought this motherfucker was a revolutionary parent back

760
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 1: when I was growing up, right, because you didn't see

761
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 1: that back then, right, So I think I think a

762
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 1: lot of us grew up with dads who I just

763
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:37,520
Speaker 1: thought that that providing was enough, right that that okay,

764
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:40,320
Speaker 1: you got you know, a roof over your head, you

765
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 1: got food, and you played every night. I'm doing my job.

766
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 1: And I think a lot of us realized that wasn't

767
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 1: enough as well. So, like I said, I think we

768
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 1: are the most emotionally present dad's you know, ever as well.

769
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 4: So right about now?

770
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 7: Yeah, for sure, for sure, I think that'll happen the

771
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:57,600
Speaker 7: next generation. I think the next generation would be more emotions.

772
00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 1: That's how I mean how humanity should about every general

773
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:02,040
Speaker 1: rations should be a little more sensitive, a little smarter,

774
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 1: a little more emotionally intelligent, a little more emotionally aware,

775
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:05,000
Speaker 1: for sure.

776
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:08,279
Speaker 7: And society is like, you know, speaking of that. You

777
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 7: know why they're like you hear, even women like I

778
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:15,000
Speaker 7: don't want to know emotionally you know, unavailable or unintelligent. Man,

779
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:16,880
Speaker 7: you know what I'm saying, Like women are speaking of

780
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:19,239
Speaker 7: that you know too, Like it's okay for dudes to

781
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:23,480
Speaker 7: you know, expression emotion that's not anger or you know

782
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:26,319
Speaker 7: what I'm saying, or happiness like you can only be

783
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 7: you know, there was only like two emotions that we

784
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:29,960
Speaker 7: could express, one or the two, and there was nothing

785
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:30,719
Speaker 7: in between.

786
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:31,840
Speaker 6: To say, you're sad.

787
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:35,280
Speaker 2: You was plus like man, that's prior to our generation

788
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:37,520
Speaker 2: where either the sad dad or the angry dad.

789
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:40,840
Speaker 3: Right, Like, there was only emotions.

790
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:42,480
Speaker 4: I didn't really I didn't really know men.

791
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:44,320
Speaker 6: I don't I think sad.

792
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:46,400
Speaker 7: If they were the sad dad, they the men that

793
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:48,840
Speaker 7: I knew in a generation prior. If they were the

794
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 7: sad day, it was expressious anger. They didn't actually speak

795
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:54,799
Speaker 7: to their sadness. They you know what I'm saying. They

796
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 7: took it.

797
00:34:55,200 --> 00:35:00,400
Speaker 3: But he was a unique outlier and many were guards.

798
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:05,719
Speaker 6: I guess, so I don't think it. Maybe, but that's

799
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 6: your dad. Let me let me not correct you.

800
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:10,320
Speaker 4: You know what I mean? You feel.

801
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:14,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I think that's right.

802
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:18,960
Speaker 2: I think I'm like, I feel really good about my

803
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:20,400
Speaker 2: friends who are dads.

804
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:23,440
Speaker 3: I don't know that.

805
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:26,920
Speaker 2: I love everything about the approach our generation has taken

806
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 2: to parenting.

807
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 6: Like I said, with.

808
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:35,400
Speaker 2: The hyper self judgmental, anxious approach to everything, like you know,

809
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:38,279
Speaker 2: we we were just talking to friends of ours at

810
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:42,280
Speaker 2: a party where you know, she had had a kid

811
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:45,400
Speaker 2: and sear and I I probably shouldn't joke about this,

812
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:46,120
Speaker 2: but we always.

813
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 3: Call them the the.

814
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:50,319
Speaker 2: Breastfeeding nazis that where it's like there's always a group

815
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 2: of moms. It's like you can only breastfeed your child,

816
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 2: you know, and like, and there's benefits to that, but that,

817
00:35:55,800 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 2: but breastfeeding it supportive groups can sometimes be towards very

818
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:06,279
Speaker 2: and I know, and looking at his moms as if

819
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:10,239
Speaker 2: they're like wrong or right. And I talked to my

820
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 2: mom about that because we you know, heard some of that,

821
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 2: you know when when we had Vinnie, and like I

822
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:18,759
Speaker 2: talked to my mom about my mom was like, I

823
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:20,680
Speaker 2: would have you know. I was like, I know, you

824
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 2: would have slapped this shit out all those people. But

825
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:27,799
Speaker 2: my mom's point was, and she she said, this man

826
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 2: and my mom would agree. I think that our generation

827
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:32,759
Speaker 2: is a better dads than the men who raise us,

828
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 2: for sure, But the point that she made was your

829
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 2: generation is the first generation I've ever heard of who

830
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:40,760
Speaker 2: feels like they're doing it wrong. She's like our generation

831
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 2: felt like we didn't know what we were doing, probably a.

832
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:43,800
Speaker 3: Lot of the times.

833
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 2: But you guys are so hard on yourselves about every

834
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 2: aspect of parenting that it's like you're you know everyone.

835
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 2: And I think social media fees into that, right, you know.

836
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:55,320
Speaker 2: And I tell, I tell, I respond to people in

837
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:57,839
Speaker 2: my DMS about stuff like that, where they'll they'll say

838
00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:00,239
Speaker 2: something about, you know, the pictures I post with my

839
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:01,919
Speaker 2: kids or something like that, and they're like, I wish

840
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 2: I had that whatever, And I'm always quick to be like, bro,

841
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:07,440
Speaker 2: this is fucking Instagram dog, Like, you know what I mean?

842
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:10,399
Speaker 2: My kid, I don't. I'm never gonna post a picture

843
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:11,920
Speaker 2: of my kid not wanting to listen to me talk

844
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 2: about his baseball game on the way home.

845
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 3: You know what I mean? Like that right, right, right?

846
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:16,839
Speaker 3: So I think that's part of it too.

847
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 2: And it's the same thing with how maybe a twenty three,

848
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:22,239
Speaker 2: twenty four year old now and their first job feels like,

849
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 2: you know, inferior, whereas we just knew we were going

850
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 2: through some shit in our early twenties mid twenties, but

851
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 2: they're comparing themselves to whoever their one friend who's in

852
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 2: the best job is right, that like that comparison happens

853
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 2: more in our generation than it did in other other generations.

854
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:40,920
Speaker 2: So I do think there's some truth to that. But

855
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 2: I guess like being overly hard on yourself is not

856
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:47,240
Speaker 2: the compared to our parents' generation. That's not the worst

857
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:49,560
Speaker 2: flaw to carry as.

858
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 6: Parents, That's it.

859
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 7: But I think, like I think like expecting perfection out

860
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 7: of yourself, you know what I mean, and like you

861
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 7: can do the best you can.

862
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:00,440
Speaker 6: That's literally all you can do.

863
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:04,759
Speaker 7: And if you're doing that, more than likely you're a

864
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:07,279
Speaker 7: really good parent, you know what I'm saying. There's some

865
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 7: people that their best is shit, you know what I mean,

866
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 7: and they're still gonna be trash.

867
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:14,200
Speaker 6: That's very few, you know what I'm saying.

868
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:17,440
Speaker 7: So I think that that whole mindset of like beating

869
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 7: yourself up because.

870
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 6: Your perception of what a parent's supposed to be. I'm

871
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 6: not that dog, you know what I mean. Like at

872
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 6: one point, for say, but.

873
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:29,800
Speaker 3: Starting off talking about I was tweaking.

874
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:32,440
Speaker 7: Yeah yeah, but like I you know, I got a therapist,

875
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:34,799
Speaker 7: thank god, you know, the money's money well spent. And

876
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:37,279
Speaker 7: so for like the last few, like I don't feel

877
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 7: like that, and I get like my homegirl, who I

878
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 7: went you know, uh, Sabrina you you know you met

879
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:44,080
Speaker 7: her before Tyler.

880
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:46,440
Speaker 6: Yeah, Sabrina was like, man, you've grown so much.

881
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:47,800
Speaker 7: Is great to see you as a parent and I

882
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:49,920
Speaker 7: and you know, like you're really good at this.

883
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:50,759
Speaker 6: And I was like, thank you.

884
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 7: That means so much. It is the most important thing

885
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:54,439
Speaker 7: to me in my life. But also like and also

886
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:58,359
Speaker 7: a nothing like somebody something like, uh she's like an influencer.

887
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:00,400
Speaker 7: She saw me with saw me like the pool, like

888
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 7: you know, but I don't really go off that too,

889
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 7: because nobody expects anything from dudes, correct, you know what

890
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:07,759
Speaker 7: I'm saying. Like, so like, you know, I remember one

891
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:11,319
Speaker 7: time walking down the walking walking Me and Age were

892
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:14,320
Speaker 7: walking with his daughter around at the Lamart Park but

893
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 7: uh a park in uh a lake in Lake Merritt

894
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 7: in Oakland, and this and this f like so many

895
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:21,920
Speaker 7: people walk by us.

896
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:23,920
Speaker 6: Oh that's so cute to see y'all, you know, And

897
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:27,120
Speaker 6: I'm like, we're literally just walking with the stroller.

898
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 7: See we haven't done like we're talking to each other,

899
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 7: barely paying attention to andriecause she's just chilling and we're

900
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 7: just like the best role models for what you know,

901
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 7: what I'm saying and so like it doesn't mean a lot,

902
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:41,120
Speaker 7: but I'm just saying, like I feel like i'm you know,

903
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 7: I think it feel like I'm doing a good job.

904
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:46,959
Speaker 7: But I don't feel like the way I'm getting into

905
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 7: that is stressing myself. It's just doing the best I can,

906
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:51,439
Speaker 7: cause it's most important thing to me, and I will

907
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:53,799
Speaker 7: give it everything I can to give to it, you

908
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:54,239
Speaker 7: know what I mean.

909
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I definitely didn't understand.

910
00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 2: I mean, obviously, as men, we truly don't understand like

911
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:02,319
Speaker 2: the full reach of misogyny and stuff like that. But

912
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:04,320
Speaker 2: when you have kids, like I had a lot of

913
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:06,719
Speaker 2: those moments like you talked about with Adrian, because you know,

914
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:08,480
Speaker 2: like the kids. I had the kids home with me

915
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:09,080
Speaker 2: for the first.

916
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:10,799
Speaker 3: Two years, so they went to preschool right right.

917
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:14,160
Speaker 2: I would have them during them during the day, I

918
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 2: came home from work, she would take the kids. I

919
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:19,319
Speaker 2: would go to work at night. And I remember in

920
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 2: a forty eight hour spam, you know, it was like

921
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:25,600
Speaker 2: I had to go buy formula. Sorry, so sorry, and

922
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:27,319
Speaker 2: then we had to kind of go the next day

923
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 2: by diapers. So I had two trips to target on

924
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 2: back to back days. The first day I went to Target,

925
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:33,960
Speaker 2: a mom came up to me with her like two kids,

926
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 2: you know, under three or whatever.

927
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 3: They weren't in school yet, and.

928
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:38,359
Speaker 2: She was just like she gave me like a whole

929
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:40,840
Speaker 2: speech about how beautiful it was that I had my

930
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 2: son with me, you know, I had the baby with me,

931
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:46,560
Speaker 2: and she wished her husband would would spend more time

932
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:47,800
Speaker 2: with the babies.

933
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:49,799
Speaker 3: And you know, and she's telling me all this like

934
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 3: fairly open.

935
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 2: I've never said anything about my wife to a member

936
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:56,440
Speaker 2: of my family like what she was saying to me

937
00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:58,239
Speaker 2: as a stranger about her husband, you know what I mean,

938
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:01,880
Speaker 2: and really keeping praise on me, you know what I

939
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:04,279
Speaker 2: mean that like I'm present. And then the next day

940
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:06,520
Speaker 2: I was at the same Target to get diapers and

941
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 2: Vinnie was crying and an old lady immediately walk up

942
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:10,120
Speaker 2: to me was like, he wants his.

943
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:11,800
Speaker 6: Mom, you know what.

944
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:16,440
Speaker 2: I was like, Damn, bro, we really have the easy

945
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:21,280
Speaker 2: part of this ship, right, Jesus Christ.

946
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 6: Bro's crazy. I mean we think also, like to me,

947
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:30,319
Speaker 6: like the way that that I've talked to you about this.

948
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 7: The expectations Sony has or rather are different, and maybe it's.

949
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 3: That's by bro. That's by Pheromony. Yeah, it's you know

950
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 3: what I mean.

951
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:43,759
Speaker 7: Like so like my experience was sony, Like if I'm

952
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:46,480
Speaker 7: out at the grocery, to be kicking it, you know

953
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:48,840
Speaker 7: what I mean, Like that's like my role, Like I

954
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:50,880
Speaker 7: throw on my shoulders. We go to like we'll go

955
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:52,880
Speaker 7: to like I go like shopping, I throw on my

956
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:55,200
Speaker 7: shoulders and that's all. You know, that's the homie. You

957
00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:58,319
Speaker 7: feel like that's a homie. That's a little homie, you

958
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:00,759
Speaker 7: know what I mean. So, yeah, I don't, I don't,

959
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:03,919
Speaker 7: But that's what's interesting to me that I've I've really

960
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:07,440
Speaker 7: seen like where I remember like we know me, me

961
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:08,279
Speaker 7: and Mike me.

962
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:09,239
Speaker 6: You operate the same way.

963
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 7: Man, there's no you know, like uh, gender roles in here,

964
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 7: Like we probably do the dishes more than anybody in

965
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:18,480
Speaker 7: the household, right, we talked about this, you feel me? Right, So,

966
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:20,280
Speaker 7: like I was doing the distance, you know what I'm saying,

967
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:21,759
Speaker 7: And I told I told you.

968
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:25,279
Speaker 6: How to do the dishes. Uh, you know what I'm saying.

969
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 7: Listening to rather what saw me and it was just

970
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 7: like wow, like listening to interactions like wow, like that's

971
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 7: a different child than when I'm with her. Like she's

972
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:37,239
Speaker 7: expecting this and this and this and for me me,

973
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 7: and and a lot of times when I'm gonna saw me,

974
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:41,319
Speaker 7: like we on the couch, somebody might sit back and

975
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 7: cut on me, like rather talking about today, like she's

976
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:46,319
Speaker 7: sitting somebody posted up on my shoulder, leaned back, kind

977
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:48,839
Speaker 7: of chilling. And she was like, that's the same thing

978
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:50,880
Speaker 7: she's always done with you, Like she was doing that

979
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:53,360
Speaker 7: at six at six months, at eight months, you know.

980
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 7: And so it's just a different expectation kids have, or at

981
00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:58,960
Speaker 7: least I've experienced of their mom.

982
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:00,279
Speaker 6: And that's that's wild to me.

983
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:03,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know.

984
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:06,960
Speaker 2: All right, we're rambling at this point, but okay, but yeah,

985
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:09,320
Speaker 2: but I know that's a real like podcasting topic.

986
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:11,799
Speaker 3: Like our dad's now better or worse than they were.

987
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:16,360
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, But I don't know that it

988
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:16,880
Speaker 7: interests me.

989
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:18,880
Speaker 2: I think, yeah, I think you guys are probably right.

990
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 2: All right, that's all the time we got. I do

991
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 2: want to give a couple of shout outs. I don't

992
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:24,880
Speaker 2: know why, but randomly three friends of mine have mentioned

993
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 2: that there I had no idea, but they mentioned that

994
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:29,840
Speaker 2: they're like listen regularly to the podcast, like they referenced

995
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:30,759
Speaker 2: the most recent.

996
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 3: Episode of the last couple of Days.

997
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 2: So shout out to my homie Nap, shout out to

998
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:37,560
Speaker 2: the homie Tea Walk, and shout out to my homie

999
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 2: Ramos who apparently listened to the podcast.

1000
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:43,440
Speaker 3: So thank you for not letting me we gotta play.

1001
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:44,399
Speaker 4: I want.

1002
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 1: I want to shout out my cousin who you know,

1003
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 1: I just recently reconnected what he told me he was

1004
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 1: a fucking regular listener to Shouts to my cousin, Robert Dee.

1005
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 3: Man, that's just a trip, isn't It's wild.

1006
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:58,680
Speaker 2: Because I always walk around like you know, I work

1007
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 2: so much and I and then all my free time

1008
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:03,280
Speaker 2: I try and spend with my family and anything leftover

1009
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 2: I have, I try and just be by myself. So

1010
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:07,080
Speaker 2: I always feel like I'm not doing a good enough

1011
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:08,920
Speaker 2: job of keeping in touch with my friends and family.

1012
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 2: So anytime the people tell me like they listening to

1013
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:13,239
Speaker 2: the show regularly, I was like, cool, then we're hanging

1014
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:19,719
Speaker 2: out like that counts baby. All right, man, that's all

1015
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:22,479
Speaker 2: the time we got. We'll be back on Wednesday. Thanks

1016
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:25,360
Speaker 2: for rocking with us, thanks to Amazon, and thanks to Volume,

1017
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:26,279
Speaker 2: and we'll see y'all soon.

1018
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:33,920
Speaker 7: Bye bye bye