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Speaker 1: Welcome to the crime round up, y'all. I just want

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Speaker 1: to give y'all a brief reminder. May tenth, twenty twenty,

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Speaker 1: Susanne Morphew allegedly went out for a bike ride and

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Speaker 1: never returned home. Her husband, Barry was arrested. But then

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Speaker 1: they dropped that and said, Nope, we're not going to

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Speaker 1: go with it. Now. We'll go and pick this back

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Speaker 1: up if we get new evidence. They found her body.

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Speaker 1: The results of that autopsy are back, and we have

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Speaker 1: got the one and only top prosecutor, Nancy Grace with us.

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Speaker 1: Nancy that autopsy results.

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Speaker 2: Honey, you know what, let me quote one of my

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Speaker 2: favorite characters, and that would be Batman in the Lego movie.

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Speaker 2: I hate everything you just said. Number one, She did

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Speaker 2: not go out bike riding as her husband first suggested.

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Speaker 2: That was his idea when he had a neighbor called

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Speaker 2: nine one to one instead of himself. He was out

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Speaker 2: of town on a hurriedly thrown together work trip that

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Speaker 2: nobody knew about but him. She was not eaten by

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Speaker 2: a mountain lion, another theory put out there by her

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Speaker 2: husband Barry. More few and let me just say for

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Speaker 2: the record, he is not a suspect. He has not

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Speaker 2: been found guilty, and he has not been named a

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Speaker 2: person of interest this time. Yes, he was charged before,

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Speaker 2: but the state asked for charges to be dropped. The

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Speaker 2: state asked for those charges to be drapt after the

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Speaker 2: defense claimed the state had not handed over crucial evidence.

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Speaker 2: He introduced the idea that a mountain lion had eaten

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Speaker 2: his wife, really, and then the mountain lion shot up

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Speaker 2: with tranquilizers and then buried her body in a shallow grave.

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Speaker 3: And it just is fantastical. But I want to again reiterate,

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Speaker 3: he has not been named a suspect again or a

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Speaker 3: person of interest again. He has not been tried or convicted.

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Speaker 3: He remains innocent under the law. But I'm telling you,

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Speaker 3: Cheryl McCollum, the fact that her body was found and

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Speaker 3: they had to extract DNA from her kneecap the top

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Speaker 3: of her femur to get tranquilizers, animal tranquilizers, very powerful tranquilizers.

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Speaker 3: He admits he was using an animal tranquilizer gun and

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Speaker 3: there was a tranquilizer cap in their dryer at the time.

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Speaker 3: He had been using it at the time. It's insane.

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Speaker 3: It's a mouth and of circumstantial evidence.

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Speaker 1: It is absolutely insane. So again, he admits he had

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Speaker 1: the tranquilizer gun. He admits he was running around the house.

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Speaker 1: He admits he was hunting. He just says chipmunk instead

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Speaker 1: of Suzanne.

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Speaker 3: Have you ever tried to shoot a chipmunk? I have not.

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, They're like grease lightning, and they switched

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Speaker 3: directions like squirrels for no reason.

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Speaker 1: And at the exact same time he's running. That is

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Speaker 1: so astronomically not possible that he would be able to

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Speaker 1: shoot a chipmunk if he was standing still, much less

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Speaker 3: I hate it when you have to chase a chipmunk

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Speaker 3: in your house and shoot it. Please let me give

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Speaker 3: the opening end closing statements. Somebody hear me.

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Speaker 1: That would be such. I mean, that would be like

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Speaker 1: the super Bowl for me. Cheryl.

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Speaker 3: I'm so contorted right now over this. But I'm just

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Speaker 3: I'm thinking about the trial strategy and the facts and

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Speaker 3: the arguments that could and should be made to a jury.

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Speaker 3: But hold on, wait a minute. Think about it. She

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Speaker 3: was trying to get a divorce, she wanted out, she

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Speaker 3: go away. She raised healthy, happy, fulfilled girls. Now she

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Speaker 3: wanted a new life and I guess, so, I guess

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Speaker 3: she did. Do you blame her? And then out of

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Speaker 3: the blue, in the middle of trying to escape? And

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Speaker 3: isn't that what the stats tell us The most dangerous

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Speaker 1: That's right, absolutely, And you know, Nancy, I had the

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Speaker 1: good fortune of watching you in court, watching you in action, baby,

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Speaker 1: and you always, without question would pull that jury in

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Speaker 1: with something nobody could say, well, there's another way to

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Speaker 1: look at it. You never did that. You had some

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Speaker 3: I got something and I cannot take credit for it

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Speaker 3: because a friend of Suzanne's told me, Okay, see at

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Speaker 3: our house, the twins and David and I each have

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Speaker 3: a king sized bed organic. Can I tell you I

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Speaker 3: had to put that on a payment plan? Those organic mattresses.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, you're kidding. No, they weren't kidding anyway. That said,

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Speaker 3: but each bed and my mom my mom has a

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Speaker 3: queen and the guest bed are dubbed their doubles. No, yeah,

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Speaker 3: they're doubles. The point is, Cheryl, each bed has its

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Speaker 3: cover that she specifically picked out at target. John David's

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Speaker 3: with that. Long story short, the friend told me that

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Speaker 3: the sheets in the washer or the dryer were Mallorie's.

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Speaker 3: Mallorie wasn't home. It fits with and you know the

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Speaker 3: cap to the dark gun was in there. It fits

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Speaker 3: Mallory wasn't there. Why were her sheets being washed?

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Speaker 1: Excellent points.

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Speaker 3: She didn't live there anymore, and that was in detail.

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Speaker 3: I didn't understand Now all of these details, someone may say,

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Speaker 1: Me one more brick in the wall. Amen. And you

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Speaker 1: know there's that video where Barry is taking law enforcement

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Speaker 1: into the home to get something that Suzanne recently wore

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Speaker 1: for tracking dogs. If you watch him now she's missing,

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Speaker 1: He's just gotten home. He has no idea where she

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Speaker 1: might be. They tell him we found her bike down

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Speaker 1: dirty clothes hamper. He never looks around. He never calls

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Speaker 1: at the kitchen. Never refers to it, never looks at it,

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Speaker 1: never says anything. Nancy again, I know your morning routine.

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Speaker 1: You vacuum the guinea pig cage, you let fat boy out,

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Speaker 1: you cook for your mama. You have a routine. If

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Speaker 3: I want to tell you something else, and I've never

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Speaker 3: ever told this story. It's never been relevant to any

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Speaker 3: I remember after Keith, my fiancee, was murdered, we had

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Speaker 3: had the funeral. I was almost stars. It's like a

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I didn't know what else to do, and so I

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Speaker 3: remember Cheryl. The first time I walked into his room

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Speaker 3: and just stopped. I can feel it right now. It

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Speaker 3: projecting again. I would think that he would walk in

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Speaker 3: And I got to tell you something else. I want

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Speaker 3: alleged girlfriend and find out and go through credit cards,

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Speaker 3: phone records, everything to find out when exactly that relationship started.

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Speaker 1: People ask me all the time, what do you think

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Speaker 1: Nancy Grace would do? And I said, I tell you

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Speaker 1: her and I know how she operates. The videos were

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Speaker 1: name over and over. It's fantastic video. Barry pulls up,

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Speaker 1: Simpson was told about Nicole, he never asked about the children.

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Speaker 1: To me, that signified because he knew he didn't kill them.

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Speaker 1: Barry never looked for her because he knew there was

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Speaker 3: You know about when John David snack Away when he

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Speaker 3: was about three years old and the baby's the rust warehouse. Yes,

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Speaker 3: I was all squatted down like a big idiot on

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Speaker 1: So I went, that's never gonna happen. Got to do

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Speaker 3: So I go to Babies r Us and I've got

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Speaker 3: But anyway, and she's so perfect at the pool, you know,

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Speaker 3: So I was looking for this and I stood up.

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Speaker 3: I said, well, they don't have you. I turned around

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Speaker 1: For those of y'all that don't know, me and Nancy

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Speaker 1: Everything about this bothers us. Yes, but one thing specifically,

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Speaker 1: Oh absolutely, y'all. This David Lynchch just walked away, y'all.

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Speaker 4: I remember being there the night of the bomb and

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Speaker 3: May rest in peace. And now it's like a water fountain,

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Speaker 3: You know what, we did not talk about that pos

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Speaker 3: I'd love nothing more than to also blame the mother.

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Speaker 3: It's just well not helping me. You keep quit saying

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Speaker 1: Say use that noggin, Nancy. It would take more personnel,

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Speaker 3: We know each other because her twins were extremely premature

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Speaker 1: I don't understand why more people don't just say, Okay,

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Speaker 1: That's why, well, I understand that part. What I'm saying

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Speaker 3: I remember the first time I was telling contempt. I

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Speaker 3: God Rest his soul aka Barney Rubble. I don't know

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Speaker 1: I think we do. I think it makes a good

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Speaker 3: Can I trust David to feed the twins at Lno?

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Speaker 3: They're absolutely ok and they're happy to be happy with that.

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Speaker 5: Facetiming Sheila, David is driving, and David says to her, Nancy,

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Speaker 1: Well, all five of us just fell out. So now

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Speaker 1: and people were I'm strolling out. Oh. It was just fabulous.

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Speaker 1: But I just love you for that, and I appreciate

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Speaker 1: you and you have just been such a remarkable friend

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Speaker 1: just appreciate it, and it meant the world to Sheila.

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Speaker 3: God willing, We'll be able to fight crime for many,

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Speaker 3: many more years and see our children have their grandchildren.

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Speaker 3: God willing.

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Speaker 1: Amen.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Cherl, I gotta go.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Nancy Grace. Okay, I'm Cheryl McCollum. And this

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Speaker 1: is the Crime round Up with zones. Have the tape

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