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Speaker 1: I called you over a year ago about my Toyota

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Speaker 1: may be some other circumstances that create this. Now, the

429
00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:22,119
Speaker 1: other thing your mechanic can try if he sees too

430
00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:25,320
Speaker 1: much hop or too much rise and a tire you

431
00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:29,080
Speaker 1: know it spins, but it spins elliptically or you know

432
00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:32,000
Speaker 1: it looks oblong, is take the tire off the car

433
00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:37,760
Speaker 1: deflated market spining degrees or spin it ninety degrees and

434
00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:40,120
Speaker 1: does it change the way it balanced, Does it change

435
00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:42,280
Speaker 1: the way the car ride, the tire rides on the rim?

436
00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:47,440
Speaker 1: It may it may or may not. Well tomorrow, I

437
00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:50,480
Speaker 1: don't restyc myself. I was going to drive back to

438
00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:55,800
Speaker 1: New Hampshire to Costco to do some shopping and see

439
00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:58,800
Speaker 1: if they can find anything wrong with it. They rotate

440
00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:02,520
Speaker 1: them because I called them right away when I first

441
00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:04,399
Speaker 1: purchased the ties and told them about the issue, and

442
00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:08,280
Speaker 1: they made a note right And I don't know what's

443
00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:13,240
Speaker 1: gonna happen tomorrow, but when I find out, Uh, I'll

444
00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:15,680
Speaker 1: let you know. Yeah, absolutely, And I think I think

445
00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:18,320
Speaker 1: you're going to find that they're going to replace the

446
00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:21,119
Speaker 1: tires if they if they find a defect. My experience

447
00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:24,280
Speaker 1: has been UM, the Costcos and the giant tire stores

448
00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:26,480
Speaker 1: of the world, they're not gonna so much diagnosis other

449
00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:30,639
Speaker 1: than probably replace it to see that their method of diagnosis.

450
00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:32,439
Speaker 1: Not to pick on them, but it's just what I've

451
00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:36,000
Speaker 1: experienced because the level of technician there. They can change

452
00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:38,000
Speaker 1: the tire, they can tork a wheel, hopefully they can

453
00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:40,399
Speaker 1: put air in it, but beyond that, UM, just be

454
00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:42,520
Speaker 1: aware that they're probably gonna come back to and say, hey,

455
00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:45,600
Speaker 1: we change this tire. This tire is bad, and um,

456
00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:47,680
Speaker 1: you know, are we changed all the tires? Which and

457
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:49,879
Speaker 1: to that point, you don't care. You just want a

458
00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:52,399
Speaker 1: car that rides smoothly going down the road, right, it

459
00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:55,240
Speaker 1: doesn't matter beyond that. Right, Well, I don't know if

460
00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:58,240
Speaker 1: if when they rotate him, if they leave the tires

461
00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:00,600
Speaker 1: on and it runs fine with it wants to the

462
00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:04,200
Speaker 1: back on the front, Well, the well the tires effective

463
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:08,600
Speaker 1: rear end, if they're out of round or something. Well, yeah, um,

464
00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:11,119
Speaker 1: there'll be more of a vibration through the seat of

465
00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:14,840
Speaker 1: your pants than they will through the steering wheel. So

466
00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:17,640
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, moving moving the tire from the front

467
00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:19,359
Speaker 1: to get rid of the vibration of the steering wheel

468
00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:23,359
Speaker 1: doesn't make it doesn't make the problem better. It just

469
00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:26,200
Speaker 1: makes it go to the other end of the car. Um,

470
00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:28,440
Speaker 1: you know. And then that then that starts to rattle

471
00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:30,840
Speaker 1: and effect you know, the rest of the vehicle, and

472
00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:35,040
Speaker 1: you know, at some level creates vibration and and and

473
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:37,360
Speaker 1: problems as well. Do you ever see a car going

474
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:39,800
Speaker 1: down the interstate and you know it's it's you don't

475
00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:42,560
Speaker 1: see it as nearly as much as as we want

476
00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:44,920
Speaker 1: as you once did. But you'll see it going down

477
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:47,560
Speaker 1: the highway at sixty seventy and one of the tires

478
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:53,159
Speaker 1: is physically bouncing like a basketball. Okay, and you know

479
00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:55,760
Speaker 1: that's a bad shock or a severely out of balance tire,

480
00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:58,000
Speaker 1: or a bad tire, or a combination of all three.

481
00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:01,520
Speaker 1: The impact that that is having on the rest of

482
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:04,760
Speaker 1: the drive train, the harmonics and the distortion that's in

483
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:09,240
Speaker 1: effect that is affecting the drive train, and yet the

484
00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:13,479
Speaker 1: driver is oblivious there or you know, they're just driving

485
00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:16,639
Speaker 1: along as if there's nothing wrong in the world. Sooner

486
00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:20,639
Speaker 1: or later, that action, whether it's the extreme of seeing

487
00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:23,399
Speaker 1: it physically bounced down the road, or whether it's a

488
00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:27,800
Speaker 1: low level vibration such as you're experiencing at some at

489
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:31,720
Speaker 1: some point, that will fatigue and create other issues for

490
00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:34,960
Speaker 1: the vehicle. It's not good in any sense of the word.

491
00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:38,000
Speaker 1: And that's why it's got to get resolved. Sorry, Well,

492
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:43,760
Speaker 1: I've got miles on it and it perfect really except

493
00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:49,400
Speaker 1: for that little irritant, and I know it's there while

494
00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:51,520
Speaker 1: you're while you're up there at Costco. If if it

495
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:54,679
Speaker 1: becomes a case of having to switch tires, see if

496
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:57,000
Speaker 1: they carry general take a look at some of the

497
00:26:57,080 --> 00:27:00,879
Speaker 1: General tires, and and I say this an all sincerity.

498
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:05,719
Speaker 1: General does make a very good tire, and it's something

499
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:08,680
Speaker 1: that when I go to sell tires today, uh you know,

500
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:10,960
Speaker 1: I will pick a General over many of the other

501
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:14,240
Speaker 1: brands simply because of their availability and how they ride.

502
00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 1: After installing the General tires on the little shop truck,

503
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:21,240
Speaker 1: huge difference, um compared to what was on there. And

504
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 1: you know, the tires that were on there were older,

505
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:26,720
Speaker 1: they were probably four five six years old. I'm trying

506
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:28,480
Speaker 1: to remember now that Generals have been on there a

507
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 1: year and I've got absolutely no complaints from a personal

508
00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:34,560
Speaker 1: point of view. Made the vehicle respond and ride that

509
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:36,960
Speaker 1: much better. And you can imagine this is you know,

510
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:39,639
Speaker 1: this is the shop beater, this is the truck we um.

511
00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:41,919
Speaker 1: You know, everybody's in an out of and hauling parts

512
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,600
Speaker 1: and uh you know, we require to do a lot

513
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:46,639
Speaker 1: of things. And that General tire is holding up very

514
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:48,480
Speaker 1: well and gives a very good ride. So take a

515
00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:50,560
Speaker 1: look at the Generals and see if Costco has access

516
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:53,199
Speaker 1: to that. All right, now, I'll let you know as

517
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:58,399
Speaker 1: sous I get it resolved, and if you want some

518
00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:01,000
Speaker 1: education about General, get out the General tire dot Com

519
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:05,120
Speaker 1: beforehand before you go, visit rights go and that'll that'll

520
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:06,840
Speaker 1: help get you where you want to be as far

521
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:09,760
Speaker 1: as education. I appreciate the call. Ron good luck to

522
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,120
Speaker 1: you and let us know what happens by all means

523
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:16,560
Speaker 1: zero zero ronating the car doctor coming back right after

524
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:25,280
Speaker 1: this doctor rolling along this hour, let's get over and

525
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:28,359
Speaker 1: talk to Lee and MAINO six Toyota camera. Lee. Welcome

526
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:30,360
Speaker 1: to the car doctor. How can I help? Well, thank

527
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 1: you thanks for taking my call. I have a two

528
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:40,440
Speaker 1: thousand um camera six cylinder and I driving down. Well,

529
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:43,640
Speaker 1: I put it in drive and it goes into gear.

530
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:47,800
Speaker 1: The light doesn't come on or anything, goes into gear,

531
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:50,720
Speaker 1: and then about half a mile down or a quarter

532
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:55,240
Speaker 1: of a mile down, it kicks in again. What do

533
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:58,680
Speaker 1: you mean it kicks in again? Well, it's it feels

534
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:01,920
Speaker 1: like it goes into gear like in the words, you

535
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 1: put it into gear. You're driving down the road, and

536
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:06,800
Speaker 1: then it feels like it's into gear like it's supposed to,

537
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 1: and then it does it again down the road a

538
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:12,600
Speaker 1: little bit. So in other words, you're saying, it feels

539
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 1: like it goes into neutral and then comes back into

540
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:20,600
Speaker 1: gear again. Okay, So and no dashboard warning lights on,

541
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 1: no check engine light, no, no other indicators. Nos. Well,

542
00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:27,080
Speaker 1: it could be a lot of things that I would

543
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 1: do the easy things. First, I would have somebody check

544
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:33,200
Speaker 1: fluid level and make sure the fluid level is good.

545
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 1: And then by all means, I would have someone scanned

546
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 1: for fault codes and all the vehicle controllers. And I

547
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 1: don't mean for fault codes and the words do a

548
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:46,680
Speaker 1: diagnostic on it, just just And when I say that,

549
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 1: I don't mean go down to the local auto parts

550
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 1: store and have them scan it for engine codes. I

551
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:56,320
Speaker 1: would have someone scan all the vehicle controllers. Um, how

552
00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 1: many telephones you have in your house? Leigh, how many telephones?

553
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:03,480
Speaker 1: I have three? Okay, so you've got three phones or

554
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 1: three modules? All right. Cars today have similar situations they have.

555
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:11,880
Speaker 1: Cars today can have up to a hundred modules. So

556
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,760
Speaker 1: when I say scan all the vehicle modules, I mean

557
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:17,280
Speaker 1: I want to scan tool that We'll talk to each

558
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:20,360
Speaker 1: computer or module on the vehicle to see if there

559
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 1: are any faults in it. Because faults for transmission can

560
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:26,760
Speaker 1: be in a transmission module, it can be in an

561
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 1: instrument cluster, it can be in a multitude of places.

562
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 1: If we're looking for information. I don't want you to

563
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 1: just have the engine controllers scanned and only look at that.

564
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:40,480
Speaker 1: Does that make sense? So? Well, you know, it wasn't

565
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 1: that long ago, maybe to or three months ago. I

566
00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:48,560
Speaker 1: took it in for um oh shoot uh and they

567
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:52,960
Speaker 1: did it a scan and nothing showed up. Okay, did

568
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:57,520
Speaker 1: you did you have the problem? Then? Uh? Yes, so

569
00:30:57,640 --> 00:30:59,640
Speaker 1: the problem, but it's more so now than it was

570
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 1: to be. Okay, well, if it's more prominent now now

571
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 1: that and it's not that I'm going to say, well,

572
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:09,480
Speaker 1: if it has no fault codes, then the problem doesn't exist.

573
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,440
Speaker 1: But that gives me a path of diagnosis, because the

574
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 1: fact is, um, if we scan it now and the

575
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 1: problem is more prominent and there's nothing there and trans

576
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:23,960
Speaker 1: fluid level is good, then the next step is someone

577
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 1: is going to have to start to look at some

578
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 1: of the electronic operation of that transmission as far as okay,

579
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 1: it's slipping how much? And then that will determine to

580
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 1: what point we go. Is this an internal trans problem

581
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 1: requiring it to be disassembled or is this an external

582
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 1: sensor that's creating the condition, causing the problem all by itself.

583
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 1: So that's why I say a little bit of diagnosis

584
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 1: before we before we you know, go any further with it.

585
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 1: Hey Ley, let me let me put you on the

586
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 1: side for a minute if I can. I know you've

587
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 1: got a second part to your question, or a second question.

588
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 1: I don't want to rush it. Let me just put

589
00:31:58,040 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 1: you to the side. Let me pull over and do

590
00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:01,120
Speaker 1: it I have to do, and we'll be back right

591
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 1: after this. I'm Ron any in the car, doctor, don't

592
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:09,200
Speaker 1: go anywhere. Hey, welcome back. We've got Lead from Maine

593
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 1: on the phone. Lead. You're still there. You had a

594
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 1: second question, what was um? Ron? I still have that

595
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:19,960
Speaker 1: Dodge stratus I called you a few months back. It's

596
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 1: two stratus and it's kind of similar to what's happening

597
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 1: with the camera in the It doesn't go into gear

598
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 1: at all, um, but it doesn't have a trending leak.

599
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 1: Do you think that if I fixed that it will

600
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 1: take care of that? Well, it depends on how bad

601
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 1: the leak is. If the league bad, not too bad.

602
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:44,240
Speaker 1: So you know again, it's it's it's sort of a

603
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 1: similar diagnosis. Fluid level, all right, we want to make

604
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:50,480
Speaker 1: sure there's enough fluid in the trans We want to

605
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 1: we want to know if there's any fault codes in

606
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:56,000
Speaker 1: the trans all right. Um, we we're kind of curious

607
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 1: in that does it go into or is it going

608
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 1: into what we call a limp in mode. This particular

609
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 1: trans has the ability that if it had a um

610
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 1: for lack of a better word, if it had a

611
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 1: meltdown of sorts out on the road, it would bring

612
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:11,120
Speaker 1: you home. It goes into limpin we call it, lets

613
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:14,280
Speaker 1: you drag itself home. Uh, you know, at some level

614
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:16,160
Speaker 1: or speed, and it will set fault codes for that.

615
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:18,720
Speaker 1: So it's it's really it's gonna be a two for

616
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 1: one diagnosis when you when you when you get it

617
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 1: down to the mechanic that they go through both episodes. Now,

618
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 1: just keep in mind that if the Stratus needs a

619
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 1: trans you've got to look at the age of the car.

620
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 1: It's only it is six years older than the than

621
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:36,320
Speaker 1: the Toyota. UM. And I'm not discounting it's it's value,

622
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 1: but I'm just saying that it is now coming up

623
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 1: on eighteen years old. Uh, it is a V six

624
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 1: if I remember correct, This is this is the two

625
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:48,480
Speaker 1: point five okay, all right, and uh there's a three

626
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:51,600
Speaker 1: four six, so you know it just to put a

627
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 1: trens in. That's gonna be a pretty penny if that's

628
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 1: what it needs. So just move cautiously. This could be

629
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 1: electronic again, this could be something external, and this could

630
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:01,720
Speaker 1: be sent. There's also but until somebody goes through and

631
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 1: diagnosed it was it just you woke up one day

632
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:08,320
Speaker 1: and um, it just didn't work. Really, yeah it was.

633
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 1: I was coming back from the mall. I drive it

634
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:12,959
Speaker 1: now and then you need just to keep it going.

635
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 1: The battery doesn't die. It's coming back from the mall

636
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:19,800
Speaker 1: and it just put it in gear thinking I was

637
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:23,359
Speaker 1: waiting for it to go into second and it never did.

638
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:27,360
Speaker 1: It just I came home that way, right, And you

639
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:29,760
Speaker 1: know it could be it could be something as simple

640
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:34,960
Speaker 1: as the filter failed and it's it's drawing air and um.

641
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:37,880
Speaker 1: But you know again, until we started diagnos where the

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Speaker 1: transfilter inside you know the pickup right, you know, could

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Speaker 1: there be a filter problem with this too? So some

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Speaker 1: pretty I'll tell you what it's. Interestingly, you've got, um,

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Speaker 1: you know you've got you've got similar problems. It's gonna

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Speaker 1: be similar diagnostics. I'm betting probably similar results and similar

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Speaker 1: outcomes once you get it done, though, make me a problemise,

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Speaker 1: Give me a call, let me know what the outcome was,

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Speaker 1: let me know what the results were. I'm curious and

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Speaker 1: I'll help you whatever i can. From there till that time,

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Speaker 1: I'm running any in the car doctor reminding you good

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Speaker 1: mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. Let's see you