WEBVTT - Girls Talk, ‘Boys Talk: Press Pause 0:00:01.800 --> 0:00:04.240 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:04.280 --> 0:00:05.840 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 0:00:08.160 --> 0:00:09.240 Cowboys. 0:00:10.560 --> 0:00:15.560 This is Girls Talk Boys Talk, presented by invisi Line, 0:00:15.720 --> 0:00:20.200 trusted by over five hundred NFL players for their winning smiles, 0:00:20.520 --> 0:00:25.439 and broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the Star. 0:00:26.280 --> 0:00:31.560 Now your host, Nicole Hutchison, What. 0:00:31.680 --> 0:00:35.400 Up, Cowboys Nation? Welcome in the Girls Talk Boys Talk Off. 0:00:35.200 --> 0:00:37.000 Season of Edition. 0:00:37.120 --> 0:00:38.840 Yeah, I guess we can call it off season edition. 0:00:39.000 --> 0:00:41.760 Screw it all right? Presented by invisil Line. Nicole hedcheson 0:00:41.840 --> 0:00:44.440 here alongside Asia Warrison and Jess Navarez. 0:00:44.600 --> 0:00:45.720 How y'all doing, ladies? 0:00:46.880 --> 0:00:47.920 Were here? Good? 0:00:49.040 --> 0:00:53.000 Oh my god? Thank you Jazz right on time. 0:00:53.240 --> 0:00:54.600 I was about to say, I'm a little sleepy. 0:00:54.720 --> 0:00:57.639 Ah, we're good. We're getting ready from the storm. Yeah, 0:00:58.120 --> 0:01:00.680 come literally bundle up. 0:01:01.400 --> 0:01:01.920 Absolutely. 0:01:02.000 --> 0:01:03.840 I'm just not made for this kind of weather, So 0:01:03.880 --> 0:01:07.160 when it's cold, I'm just I just hate it, every 0:01:07.160 --> 0:01:08.720 second of it. Actually, I know one thing. 0:01:08.720 --> 0:01:10.960 We also hate the fact that the season's over so soon. 0:01:11.400 --> 0:01:12.200 I also hate that. 0:01:12.360 --> 0:01:14.200 Let's talk about it real fast. We can keep it 0:01:14.240 --> 0:01:16.720 short and sweet in the first segment, because we do 0:01:16.760 --> 0:01:19.520 have to talk about it. The Washington Commanders came here 0:01:19.560 --> 0:01:22.479 in at and T Stadium and left with a win. 0:01:22.680 --> 0:01:27.080 So the Cowboys split the season. Split the matchup head 0:01:27.120 --> 0:01:29.119 to head series this year one to one. 0:01:29.520 --> 0:01:33.399 The Commanders take the win twenty three to nineteen. On Sunday, 0:01:34.120 --> 0:01:38.040 Thoughts about the game, I'll start with you, Jess. 0:01:39.319 --> 0:01:42.360 Yeah, I mean it was. It was probably the most 0:01:42.480 --> 0:01:45.320 entertaining game of the day that day. That's for dang 0:01:45.319 --> 0:01:49.400 shirt literally coming down the last few seconds there. You know. 0:01:50.240 --> 0:01:52.320 Going into that game, I was interested to see a 0:01:52.320 --> 0:01:55.480 few things, specifically with the younger guys and get some 0:01:55.640 --> 0:01:59.920 questions answered that we all had, and surrounding Trey Lance specifically, 0:02:00.160 --> 0:02:02.639 so I'm glad we have more of a sample size 0:02:02.800 --> 0:02:06.840 to base off of, you know, the kind of quarterback 0:02:06.880 --> 0:02:11.679 he is and where improvement still lies. But overall, I mean, 0:02:13.120 --> 0:02:15.840 the guys didn't stop fighting, so I will say that 0:02:16.160 --> 0:02:18.959 the guys were still showing some fight. So I wish 0:02:19.000 --> 0:02:21.480 it would have been a want a win to cap 0:02:21.520 --> 0:02:24.960 off the season, but it is what it is. The 0:02:25.000 --> 0:02:27.840 season couldn't have ended soon enough. I just wanted everybody 0:02:27.840 --> 0:02:30.480 to get out of their healthy go into the off 0:02:30.520 --> 0:02:32.280 season and start working for next year. 0:02:32.320 --> 0:02:35.000 Really a second that sister. 0:02:35.280 --> 0:02:37.919 Take some time off first though, take some time off, 0:02:38.040 --> 0:02:40.359 enjoy their enjoy their personal life with their families who 0:02:40.360 --> 0:02:42.280 don't get to see them all year, and then get 0:02:42.320 --> 0:02:43.120 to work. Yeah. 0:02:43.160 --> 0:02:45.919 I mean, in regard to the game, I thought that 0:02:46.040 --> 0:02:48.239 Dallas came out, they were aggressive. We saw some good 0:02:48.240 --> 0:02:50.600 things early and then in the second half of the game. 0:02:50.639 --> 0:02:52.600 Which we've seen with them is that they weren't able 0:02:52.680 --> 0:02:56.240 to continue that offensively and Washington was able to figure 0:02:56.240 --> 0:03:00.600 out some things offensively. The Cowboys defensive line gave them 0:03:00.639 --> 0:03:03.600 fits six sacts on the day. I mean, Michael Parsons 0:03:03.639 --> 0:03:05.560 had two in the first couple of possessions, so that 0:03:05.680 --> 0:03:07.280 just lets you know it was probably gonna be a 0:03:07.280 --> 0:03:10.919 long day. But Washington made adjustments, and after making those adjustments, 0:03:11.200 --> 0:03:14.200 Dallas took away to Terry McLaurin for a whole half 0:03:14.320 --> 0:03:16.720 like and then they came out in the second half. 0:03:17.080 --> 0:03:19.760 Cliff Kingsbury does what a good offensive coordinator did and 0:03:19.800 --> 0:03:22.880 found favorable matchups. So they just kind of chipped away 0:03:23.240 --> 0:03:25.399 at the Cowboys and then towards the end you saw 0:03:25.440 --> 0:03:28.520 it just breaking and that's just that's just a good ball. 0:03:28.960 --> 0:03:31.160 But it's just a great ball. By Jay and Daniels, 0:03:31.160 --> 0:03:34.120 a really good catch by Terry McLaurin, and you just 0:03:34.160 --> 0:03:35.040 can't play it any better. 0:03:35.160 --> 0:03:37.280 So for me, you look at the. 0:03:37.240 --> 0:03:39.440 Things that happened, the penalties and stuff like that that 0:03:39.600 --> 0:03:44.040 put them in position. It's just very, very representative of 0:03:44.120 --> 0:03:45.360 kind of what the season has been. 0:03:45.920 --> 0:03:50.920 Yep, almost there, almost there, the mistakes, the costly in 0:03:50.960 --> 0:03:54.240 the end, but I mean, it's just them shooting themselves 0:03:54.320 --> 0:03:55.560 in the foot. And let me go ahead and put 0:03:55.560 --> 0:03:57.160 this disclaimer out there because I know y'all probably look 0:03:57.160 --> 0:03:58.640 at me crazy on this podcast. 0:03:58.840 --> 0:04:02.640 Yes, No, I went to the dinners this morning talking about. 0:04:04.680 --> 0:04:06.040 So you were doing so good. 0:04:06.480 --> 0:04:08.640 It's so good, but it just felt weird, like by 0:04:08.680 --> 0:04:11.560 talking weird, so like it don't look it weird, but 0:04:11.560 --> 0:04:14.480 it is weird weird, Thank goodness. Okay, why do you 0:04:14.520 --> 0:04:16.680 have to feel like I had to put that disclaimer 0:04:16.720 --> 0:04:17.080 out there? 0:04:17.120 --> 0:04:20.400 But anyway, it's given the joke, it's given the joker. 0:04:22.600 --> 0:04:26.479 Why that's crazy, that's. 0:04:27.800 --> 0:04:31.800 I can't smirk, y'all so serious? 0:04:31.839 --> 0:04:36.279 So mean, Oh my, I'm joking, And that's how I founded. 0:04:36.400 --> 0:04:37.719 No, you don't. 0:04:37.560 --> 0:04:38.480 Look crazy at all. 0:04:38.600 --> 0:04:40.000 We just messed with you. I was trying to do 0:04:40.040 --> 0:04:41.240 my snork and I couldn't do it. 0:04:44.560 --> 0:04:45.000 Yourself. 0:04:45.400 --> 0:04:48.200 What are you trying to do working? It's not working. 0:04:49.520 --> 0:04:53.279 Not your eyes watering because you're trying. 0:04:53.400 --> 0:04:55.240 I can't do it and it's irritating me. 0:04:55.360 --> 0:04:56.040 All do it. 0:04:56.080 --> 0:04:58.920 You can do it. Back on track. Sorry that out there. 0:04:59.560 --> 0:05:00.279 I think it. 0:05:00.279 --> 0:05:03.040 It's more so just like the theme of the season, 0:05:03.120 --> 0:05:05.480 and we've talked about it so many times. 0:05:05.160 --> 0:05:09.400 Is that the mistakes backfired them every single time, whether 0:05:09.480 --> 0:05:13.839 it's in third quarter, final seconds as it did against Washington. 0:05:14.000 --> 0:05:17.159 But I liked the way that Trey Lance had a 0:05:17.200 --> 0:05:20.480 command of the offense. That was something that I wanted 0:05:20.480 --> 0:05:23.160 to see in a regular season game. We saw it 0:05:24.080 --> 0:05:26.479 in the preseason where he was obviously still trying to 0:05:26.880 --> 0:05:30.919 there was some nervousness preseason, but I feel like he 0:05:31.080 --> 0:05:34.240 was confident, And I think I mentioned it last week 0:05:34.279 --> 0:05:37.920 on the podcast, was that the guys were starting to 0:05:37.960 --> 0:05:40.400 instill that confidence in him, making sure that his. 0:05:40.440 --> 0:05:43.400 Mental was right going in. So I feel like he 0:05:43.600 --> 0:05:44.440 was good mentally. 0:05:45.440 --> 0:05:49.040 It was just them shooting themselves in the freaking foot 0:05:49.200 --> 0:05:50.240 every single time. 0:05:50.279 --> 0:05:53.760 Well, and when you put your quarterback behind the sticks constantly, Yeah, 0:05:53.760 --> 0:05:55.760 it just makes it ten times harder to come back, 0:05:55.839 --> 0:05:58.839 especially a quarterback who hadn't played a regular season game. 0:05:58.880 --> 0:06:01.120 And what was it like for one hundred and eighty days? 0:06:01.320 --> 0:06:05.479 Eight hundred forty Oh yeah, yeah, eight hundred and forty 0:06:05.480 --> 0:06:09.400 even more, But see him clearly tied to that, That's okay. 0:06:09.800 --> 0:06:12.920 But you know what I really enjoyed was seeing his 0:06:12.960 --> 0:06:15.920 connection with the younger receivers that I feel like he's 0:06:15.920 --> 0:06:18.359 been getting a lot of work in in those practice 0:06:18.400 --> 0:06:20.640 reps that we always talk about that are so limited 0:06:20.720 --> 0:06:25.560 and really numbers wise, it's maybe like eight reps per practice, 0:06:25.600 --> 0:06:28.640 if not per week that your third string quarterback is getting. 0:06:28.680 --> 0:06:31.799 And so it's been valuable for him to see Cooper 0:06:31.839 --> 0:06:33.760 Rush kind of move up into that one spot and 0:06:33.800 --> 0:06:36.120 get even more of those reps. And you can kind 0:06:36.120 --> 0:06:38.120 of see that because not only did he have the 0:06:38.160 --> 0:06:41.120 connection with the younger guys like Jonathan Mingo, but you 0:06:41.160 --> 0:06:45.160 saw that really with Jalen Tolbert, Jalen Brooks, Hunter Lipkey, 0:06:45.279 --> 0:06:49.400 Rico Daudele. He was definitely showing that confidence and to 0:06:49.520 --> 0:06:53.440 be fair, everybody was his receivers, everybody, his backs were 0:06:53.480 --> 0:06:56.000 showing confidence within him as well as the quarterback, and 0:06:56.040 --> 0:06:59.360 you could see that I will say something I did 0:06:59.400 --> 0:07:03.400 notice was the work was a little sloppy. I was 0:07:03.400 --> 0:07:06.120 just being very nitpicky again because we're there to evaluate 0:07:06.160 --> 0:07:09.640 the kind of job he did. But those quick short passes, 0:07:09.680 --> 0:07:11.640 I mean he was going one read and passing it 0:07:11.640 --> 0:07:15.720 down and just short passes. It was working. But I 0:07:15.760 --> 0:07:21.000 really hope now the conversation of Trey Lance not being 0:07:21.000 --> 0:07:23.840 a viable backup in this league can kind of start 0:07:23.880 --> 0:07:26.320 to silence. I'd like to see more of him. I 0:07:26.360 --> 0:07:28.760 don't know if that'll be here or somewhere else, but 0:07:28.800 --> 0:07:31.960 I do think what he showed was good to get 0:07:32.000 --> 0:07:35.600 on tape to be a viable backup in the NFL. 0:07:35.720 --> 0:07:36.640 Let me ask you something. 0:07:36.760 --> 0:07:39.320 Do y'all feel like if Trey Lance would have started 0:07:39.360 --> 0:07:41.920 a couple of games prior to Week eighteen, that he 0:07:41.960 --> 0:07:43.880 would have showed something. 0:07:43.560 --> 0:07:46.160 Better than Cooper Rush? Yes, what do you have been 0:07:46.200 --> 0:07:46.920 the better option? 0:07:47.360 --> 0:07:52.320 Yes? I mean, with respect, I appreciate what Cooper Rush 0:07:52.400 --> 0:07:53.160 does for you. 0:07:53.200 --> 0:07:53.880 As an offense. 0:07:54.000 --> 0:07:56.720 He is one hundred percent the epitome of and I 0:07:56.760 --> 0:07:59.120 know it gets a negative connotation, but it's not a 0:07:59.120 --> 0:08:01.520 bad thing. He's a game manager. He is going to 0:08:01.600 --> 0:08:04.000 do He's gonna run that offense. He's not gonna do 0:08:04.040 --> 0:08:06.320 a lot of improvising. He's going to be on script. 0:08:06.360 --> 0:08:08.560 He's gonna be on Q and he's gonna make he's 0:08:08.560 --> 0:08:11.960 gonna move the offensive long along. Trey Lance is somebody 0:08:12.000 --> 0:08:14.800 that when when offenses looking with defenses look at him, 0:08:14.840 --> 0:08:16.920 they have to account for multiple things he can do. 0:08:17.400 --> 0:08:20.080 Now to just this point, I thought that the game 0:08:20.080 --> 0:08:22.160 plan favored him. They did a lot of things to 0:08:22.160 --> 0:08:24.000 cut the field in half. And what I mean by 0:08:24.040 --> 0:08:27.360 that is like rollouts, boots, waggles, things where he's on 0:08:27.400 --> 0:08:30.600 the move, because he does that well. He still is 0:08:30.640 --> 0:08:34.280 developing pocket presence touch because there were a couple of 0:08:34.320 --> 0:08:37.480 times there were some missed opportunities in that game in 0:08:37.520 --> 0:08:40.559 the red zone where he's missing guys or he's just 0:08:40.600 --> 0:08:42.560 putting too much on it and it's and it's hard. 0:08:42.600 --> 0:08:44.080 It's difficult as a guy. 0:08:45.440 --> 0:08:46.240 That has the. 0:08:46.280 --> 0:08:49.200 Arm talent that he has to gain control of the 0:08:49.240 --> 0:08:51.680 weapon that he has because the arm is just a cannon, right. 0:08:52.120 --> 0:08:54.320 So the things that I would hope he would continue 0:08:54.360 --> 0:08:57.360 to work on is going through his progressions like like 0:08:57.400 --> 0:09:00.720 we talked about, like he talked about Jess, and also 0:09:00.800 --> 0:09:04.280 to just delivering the ball more accurately, and that to 0:09:04.320 --> 0:09:07.960 your point, Nicole, takes time, and it takes repetition, it 0:09:08.040 --> 0:09:10.720 takes chemistry with the receivers he's playing with as well. 0:09:11.120 --> 0:09:14.840 But I do think we got to see that he 0:09:14.920 --> 0:09:18.120 can get better from practice, and if he can get 0:09:18.160 --> 0:09:21.040 better from practice, he should be able to get better from. 0:09:20.960 --> 0:09:21.960 Playing actual reps. 0:09:22.600 --> 0:09:25.520 And so for me, I walked away from it saying, 0:09:25.679 --> 0:09:27.640 this guy can be your backup next year. There's no 0:09:27.679 --> 0:09:29.920 reason why he can't be your backup next year. I mean, 0:09:30.160 --> 0:09:32.360 if he chooses to be, if they choose to bring 0:09:32.440 --> 0:09:34.280 him up, that's all up to them. What I'm saying 0:09:34.440 --> 0:09:36.840 is is that if he continues to grow and he 0:09:36.920 --> 0:09:39.560 continues to get you talk about training camp. 0:09:39.600 --> 0:09:41.000 If he's not splitting. 0:09:40.600 --> 0:09:43.120 Reps with Cooper Rush, what type of player are we 0:09:43.240 --> 0:09:45.960 gonna start seeing? And he is a he can do 0:09:46.040 --> 0:09:48.600 a lot of things that excite you. But also to 0:09:48.679 --> 0:09:51.079 one thing I noticed was how I felt like they 0:09:51.120 --> 0:09:53.520 looked faster. And what I mean by that, it's him 0:09:53.559 --> 0:09:56.760 getting people the ball on the move, getting Jaylen Tope 0:09:56.760 --> 0:09:58.920 with the ball on the move. The ball's not late, 0:09:59.000 --> 0:10:01.920 the ball's on time, so guys can get run after 0:10:02.000 --> 0:10:04.959 catch opportunities. I think that's some of what we got 0:10:05.000 --> 0:10:08.080 to see with him that we haven't gotten to see 0:10:08.080 --> 0:10:09.240 with Cooper Rush as much. 0:10:09.559 --> 0:10:11.600 So there was something I'm so sorry, No, you're okay. 0:10:11.640 --> 0:10:13.720 I just wanted to say, like your to answer your 0:10:13.760 --> 0:10:17.200 question of would he be the more viable option, I 0:10:17.240 --> 0:10:19.560 think it depends on what kind of offense you want 0:10:19.559 --> 0:10:22.960 it to run, A right right like because here's the 0:10:23.000 --> 0:10:26.720 thing too, this is such a domino effect of a 0:10:26.840 --> 0:10:30.120 question because the way I see it is, yes, he 0:10:30.160 --> 0:10:33.320 can be a viable backup with more practice, more work, 0:10:33.360 --> 0:10:36.600 more game time, reps preseason would be nice to see 0:10:36.640 --> 0:10:40.120 more of. But it's also going to depend on how 0:10:40.200 --> 0:10:42.079 Dak comes back from this injury, if he's going to 0:10:42.160 --> 0:10:44.559 be mobile still, if he's gonna be a little more immobile, 0:10:44.559 --> 0:10:46.959 more of a pocket quarterback, Because if you're going to 0:10:47.040 --> 0:10:49.240 run this offense with Trey Lance, you want him to 0:10:49.280 --> 0:10:51.120 use his mobility, you want him to use his legs, 0:10:51.840 --> 0:10:55.160 And truly, your backup quarterback has to replicate the game 0:10:55.200 --> 0:10:57.520 plan a little more watered down than what your starting 0:10:57.600 --> 0:11:00.120 quarterback is doing. I don't want it to have to 0:11:00.160 --> 0:11:03.760 limit trade using his legs less because of the game 0:11:03.800 --> 0:11:06.840 plan that would favor DAK. Now Cooper Rush is obviously, 0:11:07.120 --> 0:11:11.600 I think the more conservative pocket quarterback that you don't 0:11:11.600 --> 0:11:15.200 necessarily have to plan any kind of any kind of 0:11:15.200 --> 0:11:18.040 mobility with And truly like, we don't know what the 0:11:18.160 --> 0:11:20.640 surgery will do for Dak going forward, So I think 0:11:20.679 --> 0:11:23.240 it just one it depends on the coach's vision of 0:11:23.280 --> 0:11:25.560 what this offense is going to be, how much you 0:11:25.600 --> 0:11:29.439 want a mobile quarterback. But also I think what they 0:11:29.520 --> 0:11:31.720 really wanted to emphasize, and Trey could have done it 0:11:31.760 --> 0:11:35.560 as well, was the run game, specifically with Rico and 0:11:35.600 --> 0:11:37.760 amping that up. So I think if Trey was in 0:11:37.800 --> 0:11:39.480 you might have seen a little less of that a 0:11:39.480 --> 0:11:42.840 little bit more with him being mobile. But it's just 0:11:42.880 --> 0:11:46.880 such a tangled web of we don't knows and to 0:11:47.040 --> 0:11:52.400 be determined because you're how Cooper Rush and I have 0:11:52.400 --> 0:11:55.319 talked about the backup quarterback position is your backup quarterback 0:11:55.360 --> 0:11:58.000 has to emulate what your starting quarterback does in a 0:11:58.040 --> 0:12:00.400 little bit of a watered down position so that it's 0:12:00.440 --> 0:12:02.600 not so much of a change and you can change 0:12:02.600 --> 0:12:07.400 it on the dime when needed. Trey Lance, I just 0:12:07.440 --> 0:12:10.079 feel like if he wants to be a mobile quarterback, 0:12:10.880 --> 0:12:13.640 this might not be the system based on your veteran 0:12:13.720 --> 0:12:17.040 quarterback coming back from an injury like he did to 0:12:17.120 --> 0:12:19.400 have to cap his mobility and his potential in that 0:12:19.520 --> 0:12:20.360 aspect of his game. 0:12:20.480 --> 0:12:22.920 If Dak is capping his mobility, he's doing a disservice 0:12:22.960 --> 0:12:25.920 to his game. And I really hope that he takes 0:12:25.920 --> 0:12:30.080 the time to improve his flexibility, improve you know, some 0:12:30.160 --> 0:12:31.719 of those things, because he's always been kind of a 0:12:31.760 --> 0:12:34.320 stiff player. I mean, just being honest. His lower half 0:12:34.360 --> 0:12:36.400 has just always been kind of stiff. And that's why 0:12:36.440 --> 0:12:39.360 you see him really focus on his hips, open up 0:12:39.360 --> 0:12:39.800 his hips. 0:12:39.800 --> 0:12:40.520 We seen the. 0:12:40.559 --> 0:12:42.600 Dag dance a few years ago. That is for him 0:12:42.600 --> 0:12:44.920 to open up his hips because they're tight, like that's 0:12:45.040 --> 0:12:45.600 just a. 0:12:45.480 --> 0:12:45.960 Part of him. 0:12:46.000 --> 0:12:49.200 He's very strong, not very flexible. I'm hoping that he 0:12:49.280 --> 0:12:52.040 takes the time in the off season too. I'm really 0:12:52.040 --> 0:12:55.120 curious to see how he retools and rebuilds his body 0:12:55.360 --> 0:12:58.240 because his mobility is so important to what he does. 0:12:59.000 --> 0:13:00.880 And I mean, on the flip side of things, when 0:13:00.880 --> 0:13:03.200 you look at Marcus Mariota, what he did to you 0:13:03.240 --> 0:13:07.520 in that game, he I mean disrespectful, like what it 0:13:07.559 --> 0:13:08.480 was really it. 0:13:08.520 --> 0:13:11.080 Was, honestly, the Cowboys making them. 0:13:10.960 --> 0:13:12.960 Look well, and I think and I think that they 0:13:13.000 --> 0:13:16.119 were on their heels because you game plan for Jayde Daniels. 0:13:16.240 --> 0:13:18.440 You didn't game plan for Marcus Marioda and come out 0:13:18.480 --> 0:13:19.839 there and start doing all that run around like a 0:13:19.840 --> 0:13:20.440 little rabbit. 0:13:21.200 --> 0:13:23.120 Literally, he was justopping around. 0:13:23.280 --> 0:13:28.240 But I'm just saying, let me not y'all go do 0:13:28.320 --> 0:13:30.520 y'all say as a favorite, go look at Marcus Marioda 0:13:30.559 --> 0:13:32.360 playing with the Falcons last year and tell me that 0:13:32.400 --> 0:13:34.640 Trey Lance can't do that. I'm just being straight up 0:13:34.640 --> 0:13:37.679 with you. So for me, I agree with you. I 0:13:37.720 --> 0:13:40.199 agree with you that it does need to be some 0:13:40.280 --> 0:13:42.760 synergy and like how you do things. But I am 0:13:42.960 --> 0:13:45.920 like Dak needs to be mobile, maybe not as mobiles 0:13:45.960 --> 0:13:46.840 Trae LANs, because he's. 0:13:46.760 --> 0:13:48.960 Not the He's also a young you know what I mean. 0:13:49.000 --> 0:13:49.800 He's not the athlete. 0:13:49.800 --> 0:13:50.280 I'm not saying. 0:13:50.320 --> 0:13:52.200 I'm not saying that Dak needs to just run all 0:13:52.240 --> 0:13:55.160 the time, but the r P O run action game, 0:13:56.000 --> 0:14:00.080 it's what has made him who he is and. 0:14:00.040 --> 0:14:03.199 That's when he was using his mobility. Yes, last year. 0:14:03.240 --> 0:14:04.840 I want to go back to Trey Lance though, because 0:14:04.880 --> 0:14:08.240 something that I also noticed was that where I didn't 0:14:08.280 --> 0:14:09.480 see it with Cooper Rush. 0:14:09.679 --> 0:14:12.839 Was that if, for example, he threw a ball to. 0:14:12.840 --> 0:14:16.160 Brandon Cook's, I believe Cooks had dropped it, but he 0:14:16.240 --> 0:14:18.400 still went back to him. And that was multiple plays 0:14:18.440 --> 0:14:22.320 where he still saw that still trying to continue that 0:14:22.440 --> 0:14:25.480 trust or show that there were still trust between the. 0:14:25.480 --> 0:14:26.600 Quarterback and the receiver. 0:14:26.640 --> 0:14:28.640 And I think that's why Jaalen Tolbert had his best 0:14:28.680 --> 0:14:31.800 game in my opinion, Do y'all think Jalen Tolbert has 0:14:31.800 --> 0:14:32.920 his best game this season? Oh? 0:14:33.000 --> 0:14:36.560 But yeah, yeah, but he's just great and scrambled drill. 0:14:36.760 --> 0:14:36.840 Like. 0:14:36.920 --> 0:14:39.360 One thing about Jaylen Tobert that I like about him, 0:14:39.400 --> 0:14:42.240 and I'm sure Dak appreciates about him, is that when 0:14:42.280 --> 0:14:45.560 plays break down, he has made plays in scrambled drill 0:14:45.640 --> 0:14:48.560 and quarterbacks love that. They love the guy that's gonna 0:14:48.640 --> 0:14:51.120 keep working for them, keep trying coming back to the ball. 0:14:51.160 --> 0:14:53.640 And I think that that's something that Jalen Tobert does well. 0:14:53.840 --> 0:14:56.040 It helped out Trey Lance when he was scrambling a 0:14:56.080 --> 0:14:58.840 couple times in his game, and obviously they were able 0:14:58.880 --> 0:15:01.120 to get some explosive of impositive place from that. 0:15:01.840 --> 0:15:06.120 Yeah, I mean statistically ninety eight yards, that's great that's 0:15:06.120 --> 0:15:08.440 great to see from JT. But also I feel like 0:15:08.480 --> 0:15:10.640 it was a product of his progression within the last 0:15:10.720 --> 0:15:13.840 month of you know him kind of. I don't want 0:15:13.840 --> 0:15:15.360 to say he was down on himself. I haven't had 0:15:15.360 --> 0:15:18.600 a conversation with him as of recent but there was 0:15:18.600 --> 0:15:20.360 a moment there where you kind of saw the confidence 0:15:20.400 --> 0:15:23.760 being shaken within the game time reps and within this 0:15:23.840 --> 0:15:26.160 last month, I feel like he has been a solid 0:15:26.680 --> 0:15:30.920 quarterback friendly player, obviously being impactful in the red zone 0:15:31.000 --> 0:15:33.720 and being a good red zone target for both Cooper 0:15:33.800 --> 0:15:38.320 Rush and well Trey Lance was trying. But you know, 0:15:38.400 --> 0:15:40.560 it's at the end of the day, like I just 0:15:40.640 --> 0:15:45.000 feel like JT's progression will just get better and better, 0:15:45.040 --> 0:15:48.720 and he has the work ethic to make him more coachable. 0:15:51.040 --> 0:15:54.200 I just wish, you know, the And this doesn't even 0:15:54.320 --> 0:15:57.680 just go for GT, but the development of these younger 0:15:57.720 --> 0:16:02.440 receivers tight ends back were a little bit more further 0:16:02.520 --> 0:16:04.160 along than where they are right now. 0:16:04.200 --> 0:16:06.080 We're y'all happy to see due action. 0:16:06.240 --> 0:16:12.800 I was ecstatic and pissed off, Yeah, because why because 0:16:12.840 --> 0:16:16.800 why you don't have like this team does not the 0:16:16.880 --> 0:16:21.800 offense doesn't have like juice speed. Yep, That's why when 0:16:21.800 --> 0:16:25.320 you see Turpin it feels different, like you can see 0:16:25.360 --> 0:16:27.200 the difference and when he hits the hole when they're 0:16:27.280 --> 0:16:29.040 using when they're using them out the backfield or giving 0:16:29.080 --> 0:16:32.960 him direct snaps and stuff. It's just it just feels 0:16:33.000 --> 0:16:36.000 different and duce bond like the way that he just 0:16:36.240 --> 0:16:40.160 hits the hole when he sees it. Just yeah, I'm like, 0:16:41.680 --> 0:16:44.360 it's frustrating to say the least, even with Hunter Lipkey, 0:16:44.560 --> 0:16:47.040 even getting to see Hunter Lipkey, who is a running back. 0:16:47.240 --> 0:16:50.600 I understand he does fullback things, he is a running back. 0:16:51.840 --> 0:16:54.520 The fact that like this stuff wasn't happening through the 0:16:54.560 --> 0:16:58.000 season is baffling to me. What's what? And I understand 0:16:58.000 --> 0:17:01.160 they had to count because of inies in the cornerback 0:17:01.200 --> 0:17:04.159 room and this played and stay inactives and stuff, but 0:17:04.320 --> 0:17:06.640 this running back room could have been so much more versatile, 0:17:07.080 --> 0:17:09.240 It could have been so much more difficult to plan for. 0:17:09.640 --> 0:17:11.639 And seeing them run the ball and the office some 0:17:11.760 --> 0:17:14.320 lives have gotten better, But seeing them run the ball, 0:17:14.560 --> 0:17:15.159 I was happy. 0:17:15.320 --> 0:17:16.320 It ticked me off. 0:17:17.200 --> 0:17:20.680 Yeah, to me, I'm like, oh, exciting, But why did 0:17:20.720 --> 0:17:25.040 it take so long to see this? Because to me, yes, 0:17:25.080 --> 0:17:29.120 technically or playoff chances ended what two weeks ago. Very 0:17:29.160 --> 0:17:32.879 technically that's two more weeks he could have gotten reps 0:17:32.960 --> 0:17:34.720 if you felt like you were trying to play to 0:17:34.760 --> 0:17:38.359 win at that point. And yes, just make Rico your 0:17:38.480 --> 0:17:40.440 your bell cow, I think is what they called him. 0:17:41.040 --> 0:17:44.760 But I also don't get it because Cooper Rush is 0:17:45.040 --> 0:17:49.400 an experienced enough veteran backup quarterback that can handle those 0:17:49.520 --> 0:17:51.960 kind of packages. Yeah, that's I guess that's why it's 0:17:51.960 --> 0:17:54.640 so frustrating too, because it makes you think, what if 0:17:54.800 --> 0:17:56.600 would you even have seen that if Dak was still 0:17:56.600 --> 0:18:00.679 healthy and in don't. I don't know, but it's again 0:18:00.840 --> 0:18:03.560 under utilizing this talent that you have on the roster 0:18:04.359 --> 0:18:08.960 that might not be Like, why not at that point 0:18:09.000 --> 0:18:11.240 and especially throughout the game? Yes, I wanted to see 0:18:11.240 --> 0:18:16.119 more Rico, but also why not put Duce in interchangeably 0:18:16.119 --> 0:18:18.160 with Rico during this game? And to your point about 0:18:18.240 --> 0:18:21.760 Hunter Lifkey, I literally tweeted Hunter Lipkey sighting because it 0:18:21.880 --> 0:18:24.800 just felt like too long, too damn long since we 0:18:24.840 --> 0:18:30.520 had seen any kind of package, specifically for this versatile player. 0:18:31.359 --> 0:18:33.520 And he's a guy that at the beginning of the season, 0:18:34.000 --> 0:18:36.800 during training camp even we were all talking about seeing 0:18:36.840 --> 0:18:39.399 him get working and where was all that? Like, I 0:18:39.480 --> 0:18:42.359 understand your quarterback got injured, but I just feel like 0:18:42.400 --> 0:18:46.800 Cooper Rush hasn't has enough experience as a quarterback to 0:18:46.880 --> 0:18:49.399 implement those things into his game, and so I'm not 0:18:49.440 --> 0:18:53.240 sure the play calling was really in uh their favor 0:18:53.280 --> 0:18:53.520 the way. 0:18:53.520 --> 0:18:56.359 I didn't realize that Hunter Luky only had twelve carries 0:18:56.400 --> 0:18:56.800 this year. 0:18:56.800 --> 0:18:57.480 For thirty eight. 0:18:57.400 --> 0:19:00.040 Years, crazy, he's been an extension of your offensive line. 0:19:00.000 --> 0:19:02.240 And that's it. And that's just. 0:19:02.720 --> 0:19:04.600 Like, there's just no reason for it. 0:19:04.640 --> 0:19:09.080 There's no reason why we couldn't have more opportunities. And 0:19:09.359 --> 0:19:11.399 I get it, don't get me wrong. I get Rico 0:19:11.480 --> 0:19:13.720 kind of started late, quote unquote in a way of 0:19:13.760 --> 0:19:17.000 being the starter. But what makes other teams good is 0:19:17.040 --> 0:19:20.560 that they have the committee. And the committee again is 0:19:20.960 --> 0:19:22.919 for rest and all that stuff, but it's also to 0:19:23.000 --> 0:19:26.480 change the picture. It's also to change what the defense 0:19:26.520 --> 0:19:29.520 has to do to defend you, because I'm telling you, you 0:19:29.480 --> 0:19:31.320 can see it on film like they didn't even know. 0:19:32.040 --> 0:19:35.080 They didn't even know when Deuce was like escaping, like 0:19:35.119 --> 0:19:37.600 when he was finishing runs because you can't see him 0:19:37.640 --> 0:19:41.160 sometimes and I'm just like you to make you laugh. 0:19:41.000 --> 0:19:43.800 On the broadcast when you were hearing the I think 0:19:43.800 --> 0:19:46.760 it's Mark Sanchez talk about him. It's like, oh yeah, 0:19:46.800 --> 0:19:49.639 his size, And I was like, boy, we're so past 0:19:49.680 --> 0:19:51.160 that conversation. 0:19:50.760 --> 0:19:52.120 Like, yeah, we saw him do some things. 0:19:52.280 --> 0:19:55.280 You can utilize it to your advantage, to your point. 0:19:55.359 --> 0:19:57.120 Yeah, we saw him do some things in past pro 0:19:57.200 --> 0:19:59.879 as well. You know something that people have, you know, 0:20:00.040 --> 0:20:02.760 ridiculed him a boud. He sacrificed his body multiple times 0:20:02.760 --> 0:20:03.320 in that game. 0:20:04.240 --> 0:20:05.040 So yeah, I. 0:20:08.160 --> 0:20:08.720 Next season. 0:20:08.840 --> 0:20:11.000 All right, Well, we're gonna put that the whole game 0:20:11.040 --> 0:20:12.959 to bed, right, and then we're gonna good night. 0:20:13.000 --> 0:20:15.720 At first, take our first break after the raak. 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Sometimes I'm like, oh, absolutely fun. 0:23:21.359 --> 0:23:23.879 He tweeted out that one day after the Chicago Bears, 0:23:23.880 --> 0:23:27.040 obviously they sought out permission to interview. 0:23:26.720 --> 0:23:28.240 Cowboys head coach. 0:23:28.680 --> 0:23:31.119 Well, that contract comes to an end soon, but current 0:23:31.200 --> 0:23:35.560 head coach still Michael McCarthy, uh to interview him still 0:23:35.600 --> 0:23:38.760 one day after that, so today they still have not 0:23:38.840 --> 0:23:41.320 heard a response. But again I think that we should 0:23:41.359 --> 0:23:44.920 note that we do not know any updates on whether 0:23:45.040 --> 0:23:48.359 or not McCarthy's agent is negotiating with the front office. 0:23:48.400 --> 0:23:49.600 Currently, we don't know anything. 0:23:50.040 --> 0:23:50.720 This is just the. 0:23:50.720 --> 0:23:53.680 Tweets that we see, so we have to. 0:23:53.640 --> 0:23:57.399 Talk about it. Yeah, just let me ask you something. 0:23:57.760 --> 0:24:01.880 Mike McCarthy back for another year. If he's not back, 0:24:02.560 --> 0:24:04.840 what are the coach out there? Do you feel y'all 0:24:04.880 --> 0:24:09.679 have confidence in coming in and let's say, establishing the 0:24:09.720 --> 0:24:11.240 same type of culture here. 0:24:13.119 --> 0:24:19.159 Is there anybody that Chelsea Damn Quinn, No, I'm not. 0:24:19.320 --> 0:24:25.760 That was a joke. I'm that little kid that's like 0:24:25.960 --> 0:24:29.119 with the microphone. He's like starts crying. That's me when 0:24:29.160 --> 0:24:34.560 I talk about this. No, if you're talking about this 0:24:34.680 --> 0:24:38.320 exact culture, yeah, probably not anybody I can think of 0:24:38.359 --> 0:24:42.840 at least that comes to mind. It If you wanted 0:24:42.840 --> 0:24:46.160 that culture to kind of continue in a way, you'd 0:24:46.160 --> 0:24:49.879 have to bring somebody up that's already on staff put them. 0:24:50.160 --> 0:24:53.560 Other than that, it would be a clean slate, I 0:24:53.640 --> 0:24:57.600 feel with the options out there that are available. 0:24:58.000 --> 0:25:00.000 Yeah, I think the first person that comes to mind 0:25:00.160 --> 0:25:05.400 is Mike Veriables the older school energy like. I think 0:25:05.440 --> 0:25:09.159 he would get you like McCarthy, not like McCarthy, but 0:25:09.640 --> 0:25:12.639 they might like him because of how he how he is, 0:25:12.760 --> 0:25:17.280 how he coaches. And I honestly, honestly, I don't have 0:25:17.880 --> 0:25:23.000 an idea of whoever it is, whoever it is is 0:25:23.080 --> 0:25:25.360 gonna have to encapsulate this locker room in a way 0:25:25.440 --> 0:25:28.199 that is hasn't been done yet because they haven't won 0:25:28.240 --> 0:25:30.680 a championship. I just think it's gonna be different. It's 0:25:30.680 --> 0:25:33.240 it's difficult because you have whoever comes in here has 0:25:33.320 --> 0:25:36.960 to really set the tone for it's us against the world. 0:25:37.160 --> 0:25:37.960 There's this team. 0:25:38.000 --> 0:25:40.760 We talk about how different this team than any other team. 0:25:41.359 --> 0:25:43.600 So the way that they prepare, the way they do things, 0:25:43.720 --> 0:25:46.280 it may not look like any other team, Like they 0:25:46.359 --> 0:25:48.399 might have to go harder, they may not get the 0:25:48.440 --> 0:25:51.359 same breaks because it's just not the way that the 0:25:51.480 --> 0:25:54.280 media talks about them. They're always in the fire, They're 0:25:54.320 --> 0:25:57.159 always it's never enough like they would he would have 0:25:57.240 --> 0:25:59.119 to they would have to reshape. But another thing too, 0:25:59.160 --> 0:26:02.320 you talk about the Pies respectfully, like this team has 0:26:02.400 --> 0:26:05.440 literally almost led the NFL and penalties since Michael Crothy 0:26:05.520 --> 0:26:08.080 has been the coach who comes in and fixed that 0:26:08.240 --> 0:26:11.040 discipline because it but it because it also in Jason Garrett, 0:26:11.119 --> 0:26:13.840 they were one of the highest penalized. Like I can't 0:26:14.400 --> 0:26:18.040 picture what coach comes in and fixes fixes that. Like 0:26:18.440 --> 0:26:21.879 those type of issues that you've been dealing with for 0:26:22.000 --> 0:26:22.920 in multiple years. 0:26:23.080 --> 0:26:25.200 You also think do you want a quick fix or 0:26:25.280 --> 0:26:27.359 do you want a long term fix? And then that 0:26:27.480 --> 0:26:30.280 also goes into your quarterback getting older, some of your 0:26:30.359 --> 0:26:32.920 veteran players possibly not being on the roster because you 0:26:33.000 --> 0:26:35.560 have twenty two free agents to worry about. There's so 0:26:35.640 --> 0:26:38.640 many unknowns right now that I feel like the first 0:26:38.760 --> 0:26:40.879 domino that needs to fall is figuring out who your 0:26:40.920 --> 0:26:43.200 head coaches please, and then you can figure out the 0:26:43.280 --> 0:26:46.720 rest of it, because if you really are cleaning everything, 0:26:47.119 --> 0:26:52.280 cleaning house, that a lot goes into that and a 0:26:52.400 --> 0:26:55.160 lot of time. I feel like, especially for this locker room, 0:26:55.600 --> 0:26:57.600 like you've said, that have created their own world and 0:26:58.080 --> 0:27:00.720 this is us against the world. They need time to 0:27:01.240 --> 0:27:03.920 mentally prepare for that, get on the same page with 0:27:04.040 --> 0:27:07.879 a new staff if that's what happens, and communicate and 0:27:08.600 --> 0:27:14.040 really build that relationship earlier, sooner rather than later. I guess. 0:27:14.160 --> 0:27:18.200 So for me, everything is in standstill until the decision 0:27:18.280 --> 0:27:21.600 is made because you cannot do anything else other than that, 0:27:21.800 --> 0:27:25.119 because even requiring free agents and going even through that 0:27:25.280 --> 0:27:28.720 and deciding who gets to stay and who potentially doesn't, 0:27:28.880 --> 0:27:31.159 you can't do that until you know what your system 0:27:31.240 --> 0:27:33.359 looks like under said head coach. 0:27:33.920 --> 0:27:36.320 Yeah, you look around the NFL, I mean coaches have 0:27:36.400 --> 0:27:39.280 already lost their jobs. Yeah, you talked at the Jaguars 0:27:39.359 --> 0:27:41.960 they fired their head coach. The Patriots have fired their 0:27:41.960 --> 0:27:45.360 head coach. New Orleans Saints have fired their head Yeah. 0:27:45.480 --> 0:27:47.760 The list just goes on and on and on. 0:27:48.000 --> 0:27:51.480 And that's the thing that stressing me is again, like 0:27:51.560 --> 0:27:53.600 you said, we don't know what's going on behind the scenes, 0:27:53.640 --> 0:27:57.920 et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. However, those coaches, the 0:27:58.000 --> 0:28:01.800 coaches that you might won't, the good wins, the ben Jons, 0:28:01.840 --> 0:28:05.720 like these guys, they're interviewing right now and if you can't, 0:28:05.840 --> 0:28:09.080 you can't even you can't interview. And we kind of 0:28:09.160 --> 0:28:11.640 ran into something like this last year, if I'm not mistaken, 0:28:11.760 --> 0:28:14.560 is that dan Quinn was interviewing. We were one hundred 0:28:14.560 --> 0:28:17.360 percent knew that dan Quinn was probably on his way out. 0:28:17.440 --> 0:28:20.640 It was time he came here to rejuvenate his career. 0:28:20.760 --> 0:28:23.360 He did that, he got the whole head coaching job 0:28:23.400 --> 0:28:26.359 in Washington. Dallas ran into a very similar thing to 0:28:26.440 --> 0:28:29.160 where and I like what Zimmer did here. It worked out, 0:28:29.720 --> 0:28:32.560 but it ain't no different than it's like first come, 0:28:32.600 --> 0:28:37.040 first herve, Like, you're not interviewing the other coaches right 0:28:37.080 --> 0:28:39.560 now because you haven't made a decision on this coach, 0:28:39.680 --> 0:28:44.240 So you're you're you're stifling his his you know progress, Well, 0:28:44.680 --> 0:28:46.560 the progress is saw right now, I'll say that his 0:28:46.720 --> 0:28:47.720 progress isn't happening. 0:28:47.840 --> 0:28:49.080 But you also can't. 0:28:48.880 --> 0:28:51.840 Progress until you find out what you know, who's going 0:28:51.880 --> 0:28:54.560 to be the head coach. So it's just not it's 0:28:54.600 --> 0:28:56.520 not a good way to do things because I'm telling you, 0:28:56.600 --> 0:28:58.720 we're gonna be looking at draft, combine and all that stuff, 0:28:58.760 --> 0:29:00.480 and then it's gonna be free agency before we know it. 0:29:00.840 --> 0:29:03.320 Who's going to be the head coach to start planning 0:29:03.360 --> 0:29:05.160 out what things are going to look like, and then 0:29:05.200 --> 0:29:07.880 the players on a team, the assistant coaches, these guys 0:29:07.960 --> 0:29:10.200 also deserve to know what their lives are going to 0:29:10.240 --> 0:29:11.880 look like or if they're going to have to start 0:29:11.920 --> 0:29:12.960 preparing for a new scheme. 0:29:13.160 --> 0:29:15.239 Well, and I would imagine even like Dak coming back 0:29:15.280 --> 0:29:19.440 from this injury, you know who can't physically do a 0:29:19.520 --> 0:29:22.280 lot and it takes, you know, milestone by milestone to 0:29:22.320 --> 0:29:24.920 come back. All you really have is your playbook and 0:29:24.960 --> 0:29:28.840 your system to sit there and study and mentally prepare yourself. 0:29:29.880 --> 0:29:32.040 What does he have to study right now? Because what 0:29:32.200 --> 0:29:34.680 if it does not look the same? So for me too, 0:29:35.640 --> 0:29:39.080 if you want your quarterback to come in prepared post injury, 0:29:40.120 --> 0:29:42.520 you need to give him his material, his book, his 0:29:43.000 --> 0:29:46.200 his binder, if you will, of whatever the system is 0:29:46.280 --> 0:29:48.560 going to look like and what it requires out of him. 0:29:48.720 --> 0:29:51.440 Let me ask you something, y'all think Al Harris. Let's 0:29:51.440 --> 0:29:54.000 say Mike Zimmer decides that he sorry. 0:29:54.480 --> 0:29:56.560 Let's say the front office decides not to keep Mike 0:29:56.640 --> 0:30:00.320 Zimmer or Mike Zimmer decides not to stay here, uh 0:30:00.520 --> 0:30:03.160 to continue coaching as the defensive coordinator. 0:30:03.640 --> 0:30:07.000 Do y'all think it's time for Al Harris to be 0:30:07.120 --> 0:30:07.480 the DC? 0:30:09.800 --> 0:30:10.920 It takes a lot to be a DC. 0:30:11.560 --> 0:30:15.560 I don't know. I think the world of our Harris, 0:30:15.880 --> 0:30:18.520 so I want to be very careful, but I do 0:30:18.760 --> 0:30:23.000 understand that being a DC is very intricate, and I 0:30:23.080 --> 0:30:25.520 don't know if he's if he even feels like he's 0:30:25.680 --> 0:30:27.880 ready to take that on. It is a lot of responsibility, 0:30:27.960 --> 0:30:30.080 it's a lot to do. They moved him into what 0:30:30.200 --> 0:30:33.360 the assistant head coach position this year, which was dope. 0:30:33.640 --> 0:30:36.040 But I have no idea because we have not seen 0:30:36.120 --> 0:30:39.320 him in a coordinator capacity. Now, I will say the 0:30:39.480 --> 0:30:41.640 NFL is doing this thing where they're taking chances on 0:30:41.720 --> 0:30:44.920 play on coaches now, a lot of former players are 0:30:45.000 --> 0:30:49.360 becoming coaches and you're seeing success in different places. So 0:30:49.520 --> 0:30:52.520 for me, maybe it works, maybe it doesn't. No idea, 0:30:52.720 --> 0:30:55.080 but it's an option. I suppose if you want to 0:30:55.160 --> 0:30:56.760 keep staying house, What about you, Jess? 0:30:57.480 --> 0:31:01.480 I mean, yeah, like if you wanted to progress, somebody 0:31:01.560 --> 0:31:04.840 up it is time. And Al Harris obviously is so 0:31:05.000 --> 0:31:07.840 respected in that locker room and by his dB room, 0:31:07.960 --> 0:31:11.520 and his energy is very infectious. But what gets me 0:31:12.360 --> 0:31:15.000 is you look at a guy like Demo specifically, and 0:31:15.480 --> 0:31:17.960 I'm thinking of your third year players. That's three different 0:31:18.000 --> 0:31:20.200 systems every year you have been here. Talk about it, 0:31:20.240 --> 0:31:23.360 and if you want growth and development within your players, 0:31:23.680 --> 0:31:27.360 that year three jump is It's still important because you're 0:31:27.400 --> 0:31:30.920 talking future contracts coming up, long term deals in the 0:31:31.000 --> 0:31:34.320 works and in the talks. You're stifling that growth by 0:31:34.440 --> 0:31:38.560 continuously making these players learn new systems every single year, 0:31:38.880 --> 0:31:41.480 and that would be three years in a row, especially 0:31:41.560 --> 0:31:44.080 that rookie class that came in three years ago that 0:31:44.160 --> 0:31:48.240 would have to relearn another new system this year. And 0:31:48.440 --> 0:31:50.800 to be honest, I was really intrigued with what Mike 0:31:50.880 --> 0:31:52.800 Zimmer had said of you know, if I could go 0:31:52.920 --> 0:31:54.680 back and change it. I would do things my way. 0:31:55.120 --> 0:31:57.240 I feel like if he comes back, whether that be 0:31:57.400 --> 0:32:00.400 because he's offered the job back or because it's on 0:32:00.480 --> 0:32:04.600 his own terms, whatever the case is, it's only going 0:32:04.720 --> 0:32:08.760 to be better because of the lessons he did learn 0:32:08.880 --> 0:32:12.360 of what not to do. And also to the other 0:32:12.440 --> 0:32:16.080 point of that, you have Micah Parsons on this system 0:32:16.120 --> 0:32:19.480 that clearly he enjoys doing. I saw Demo tweet that 0:32:19.800 --> 0:32:22.680 he wanted Zim to stay. So for me, it's what 0:32:22.880 --> 0:32:25.040 do your players feel like they're going to get out 0:32:25.080 --> 0:32:27.560 of this and how they're going to grow. So if 0:32:27.600 --> 0:32:30.160 they had faith that El Harris, say Zim didn't return 0:32:30.240 --> 0:32:33.200 for whatever reason, that El Harris was your guy, If 0:32:33.240 --> 0:32:36.640 the players have faith that that could be the elevation 0:32:36.800 --> 0:32:39.760 for them and their growth. Sure, if al Harris feels 0:32:39.760 --> 0:32:42.160 like he's ready to do it, sure, no matter who 0:32:42.200 --> 0:32:45.920 it is. But my thing is, man, you have to 0:32:45.960 --> 0:32:47.120 build some kind of future here. 0:32:47.320 --> 0:32:47.440 Now. 0:32:47.520 --> 0:32:51.880 You have to build some future that tells you I'm 0:32:51.920 --> 0:32:53.880 here to stay. You don't have to worry about my 0:32:54.040 --> 0:32:56.400 job being on the line next year, because all it 0:32:56.520 --> 0:32:59.800 does is just create this anxiety that's already added to 0:32:59.840 --> 0:33:03.200 the thirty year anniversary, no super Bowl championship. Well, yeah, 0:33:03.440 --> 0:33:08.040 you have a new coach every every season. What do 0:33:08.120 --> 0:33:11.280 you want? You know, how can you build a super 0:33:11.320 --> 0:33:14.200 Bowl winning program if you're just DC after DC after 0:33:14.280 --> 0:33:16.200 d C. And yes, it was Jan's time to go, 0:33:16.600 --> 0:33:20.000 but I'm I just want some stability. I agree, and 0:33:20.160 --> 0:33:24.040 I'm sure the guys do. And and here's the sorry soapbox. 0:33:25.120 --> 0:33:27.440 I got you, I got you, I got you. What 0:33:27.680 --> 0:33:30.720 you do And here's my thing is, if if you're 0:33:30.720 --> 0:33:32.680 gonna do what you're doing right now, if you're gonna 0:33:32.680 --> 0:33:36.320 be trying to figure out coordinators or whatever, yeah, at 0:33:36.440 --> 0:33:38.200 least have the talent to make show up for that, 0:33:38.400 --> 0:33:40.840 to make up for changing out, changing out, changing out, 0:33:40.920 --> 0:33:41.800 changing out, because that's what. 0:33:42.240 --> 0:33:46.040 That's what them them brown Oh my lord, we're in 0:33:46.080 --> 0:33:46.640 a soap box. 0:33:46.720 --> 0:33:49.960 That's what them green folks up there up east is doing. 0:33:51.000 --> 0:33:51.800 That's what they're doing. 0:33:52.120 --> 0:33:54.680 Like they brought in Fangio, they brought in Killing Moore 0:33:54.760 --> 0:33:55.320 and guess. 0:33:55.120 --> 0:33:55.840 What, it's hit. 0:33:56.240 --> 0:33:57.880 But it's hit because they have the talent. 0:33:58.080 --> 0:34:01.640 Well, and look how quickly other teams want Kellen as 0:34:01.640 --> 0:34:02.120 a head coach. 0:34:02.280 --> 0:34:06.120 It's like shocking, have mercy, Like if you're gonna do it. 0:34:06.280 --> 0:34:08.160 He gives stability and happen. 0:34:08.239 --> 0:34:10.520 Well, you heard from your players. They've spoken about how 0:34:10.600 --> 0:34:14.280 much they love Zimmer. They love his scheme. Jordan Lewis 0:34:14.440 --> 0:34:16.920 was very vocal about that in post game. So I 0:34:17.000 --> 0:34:20.080 think that there's no doubt about the fact that they 0:34:20.160 --> 0:34:21.239 love what he brought here. 0:34:22.120 --> 0:34:24.319 It is kind of last week sound like, who need 0:34:24.400 --> 0:34:24.759 a nap? 0:34:24.840 --> 0:34:25.080 We're not. 0:34:27.040 --> 0:34:27.960 And I understand. 0:34:29.239 --> 0:34:32.360 I under well, first of all, I totally forgot, and 0:34:32.440 --> 0:34:34.840 this is something again like we're talking about the coaching 0:34:34.880 --> 0:34:40.320 situation in their lives. I forgot selfishly my bad that 0:34:40.520 --> 0:34:44.200 Mike Simmer lost his son. Yeah, and I mean, come on, 0:34:44.640 --> 0:34:46.800 and he you know last week he was saying in 0:34:46.880 --> 0:34:48.880 his press or you could tell how emotional he was 0:34:49.280 --> 0:34:51.759 that he really felt like he wanted to honor his 0:34:51.880 --> 0:34:55.160 son come out and do this. But they also enjoyed 0:34:55.239 --> 0:34:55.680 to live there. 0:34:55.840 --> 0:34:58.719 They also, yes, they he's just got engaged to this 0:34:58.880 --> 0:35:02.080 is stressful. Yes, he did, this is stressful. 0:35:02.200 --> 0:35:03.520 This is a stressful occupation. 0:35:04.120 --> 0:35:11.160 So I also am saying I'm happy for him, like 0:35:11.520 --> 0:35:15.600 get this camera, engatulations, congratulation. 0:35:16.920 --> 0:35:18.800 I can't do it. I can't even look at you 0:35:18.960 --> 0:35:27.480 because no season, my look, I don't know. 0:35:30.640 --> 0:35:34.920 Looking at me, Oh nugget Okay, But seriously, anyways, seriously, 0:35:35.800 --> 0:35:37.680 whatever he decides, I'm gonna be happy for him if 0:35:37.680 --> 0:35:39.400 he wants to come back here. I believe that my 0:35:39.600 --> 0:35:43.000 Zimmer system is relevant to what the NFL is today. 0:35:43.280 --> 0:35:44.000 He can do things. 0:35:44.400 --> 0:35:46.440 Hopefully the secondary is not completely decimated. 0:35:46.480 --> 0:35:47.160 Lord have mercy. 0:35:47.600 --> 0:35:50.800 But the way he disguises on the back end, he 0:35:50.920 --> 0:35:53.520 prioritizes to stop in the run. He's exotic with his 0:35:53.640 --> 0:35:55.480 fronts with it. He does so many different looks. He 0:35:55.520 --> 0:35:58.040 puts a lot of stress on defenses, and like that 0:35:58.280 --> 0:36:00.719 puts a lot of stress on offenses. I think what 0:36:00.880 --> 0:36:03.600 he does as a coordinator is relevant to today's NFL. 0:36:04.400 --> 0:36:06.880 Get him the players if he wants to stay here, 0:36:07.120 --> 0:36:10.040 or get somebody with a similar or get someone with 0:36:10.120 --> 0:36:12.719 a similar mindset. So to Jess's point, which is a 0:36:12.800 --> 0:36:16.040 fantastic point, that your players are not having to learn 0:36:16.120 --> 0:36:19.160 a whole new system again because you're gonna be going 0:36:19.200 --> 0:36:20.960 through another install again. 0:36:21.200 --> 0:36:23.840 God, and I just I can't something about Demo in 0:36:23.920 --> 0:36:26.440 this specific instance, because you're talking year three for him. 0:36:26.840 --> 0:36:30.960 He came off of season ending injury, learned a new system, 0:36:31.760 --> 0:36:34.920 looked phenomenal this season. Now another season ending injury that 0:36:36.080 --> 0:36:37.920 you know, reports were saying he would be back by 0:36:39.000 --> 0:36:40.719 sooner rather than later. And I can't say I did 0:36:40.800 --> 0:36:43.760 talk to him. Over the weekend. I hosted an event 0:36:44.800 --> 0:36:48.520 and he was there, and this man in his brace 0:36:48.640 --> 0:36:52.200 and everything, still wanted to talk to these fans, and 0:36:52.440 --> 0:36:54.040 all the fans were like, we need you back. Next 0:36:54.040 --> 0:36:55.520 to your man, He's like, I'll be there, don't like. 0:36:55.880 --> 0:36:58.399 He was so reassuring for them, and so for him. 0:36:58.480 --> 0:37:01.239 All we talked about was is you know, the little 0:37:01.280 --> 0:37:03.560 milestones he has to take right now in his in 0:37:03.680 --> 0:37:05.920 his rehab, and you know, it's little things you don't 0:37:05.960 --> 0:37:09.200 think of. Drive a car, walk a certain amount of steps, 0:37:09.239 --> 0:37:11.600 you know, and things like that. And he is very 0:37:11.680 --> 0:37:15.399 positive and driven. Just like Demo looks in his football game, 0:37:15.520 --> 0:37:18.640 he looks in his recovery and rehab game ready to 0:37:18.880 --> 0:37:21.959 attack it. So I do believe him when he says 0:37:22.000 --> 0:37:25.560 he'll be back sooner rather than later. But to that point, 0:37:25.600 --> 0:37:28.120 I just can't stop thinking of Demo having to learn 0:37:28.200 --> 0:37:31.640 another mayor system may Marison. 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Live. Tickets 0:40:24.600 --> 0:40:25.920 are available now at seek dot com. 0:40:26.360 --> 0:40:28.600 The Front Center. I'm sure let you finish. 0:40:28.440 --> 0:40:31.439 Girl, I know, like we knew that already though. Yeah, 0:40:31.600 --> 0:40:32.680 are you gonna go out there and play? 0:40:32.920 --> 0:40:33.520 Absolutely not. 0:40:33.920 --> 0:40:36.080 I think years. I think you could hang. 0:40:36.120 --> 0:40:37.839 I think I could, I think you could do hike. 0:40:38.560 --> 0:40:39.279 I believe in you. 0:40:39.560 --> 0:40:40.680 Yeah, I believe myself. 0:40:40.760 --> 0:40:43.080 People don't be understanding how serious Tennessee is. 0:40:43.160 --> 0:40:43.320 It is. 0:40:44.800 --> 0:40:47.800 It's so serious Nicole does. She does for everyone who doesn't. 0:40:47.920 --> 0:40:49.200 I used to coach him my free time. 0:40:49.400 --> 0:40:52.200 That's crazy. I feel like you'd be a good coach. 0:40:52.840 --> 0:40:53.800 Thanks girl, I do. 0:40:54.040 --> 0:40:54.840 I appreciate it. 0:40:54.920 --> 0:40:55.680 I feel like you would. 0:40:55.840 --> 0:40:57.680 All Right, we're gonna play a little over under. Let's 0:40:57.719 --> 0:40:58.800 go who over. 0:41:00.080 --> 0:41:06.799 Exceeded the expectations or under exceeded expectations this year? 0:41:08.040 --> 0:41:09.440 Brandon Kooks. 0:41:12.120 --> 0:41:12.359 Under. 0:41:12.960 --> 0:41:18.480 M hm wow, injury, simple as that under injury straight 0:41:18.560 --> 0:41:20.560 like that. Rock Coffman over. 0:41:22.280 --> 0:41:22.560 Okay. 0:41:22.800 --> 0:41:25.520 I feel like the confidence in the chirpiness. It was 0:41:25.600 --> 0:41:27.000 nice to see it waster. 0:41:27.160 --> 0:41:29.160 He's a cent too for your interior. 0:41:29.400 --> 0:41:30.080 Yeah, bebby. 0:41:30.160 --> 0:41:34.879 Let me tell you something the way. Jonathan Allen ain't 0:41:34.920 --> 0:41:38.040 gonna want to deal with him. Jonathan Allen, I'm not 0:41:38.200 --> 0:41:40.800 gonna want to deal with him for more seasons because 0:41:40.800 --> 0:41:42.640 he just he's He's our Draymond Green. 0:41:42.840 --> 0:41:45.359 Yep, that's a good one. You need one. 0:41:45.400 --> 0:41:49.279 He's Draymond Green well and also too, like I just 0:41:49.320 --> 0:41:52.279 feel like watching him play now, it was such a 0:41:52.400 --> 0:41:55.560 close tie between him and Cooper Rush for a Cooper 0:41:55.640 --> 0:42:00.040 Rush bb my bad for the starting center position, but 0:42:00.280 --> 0:42:03.520 I do feel like there could be possibility for both 0:42:03.520 --> 0:42:05.600 of them to be in that line. Hopefully next year 0:42:07.000 --> 0:42:07.600 it's a good thing. 0:42:09.080 --> 0:42:09.279 Over. 0:42:10.520 --> 0:42:15.399 I mean I expected, I expected, I knew, I knew, 0:42:15.640 --> 0:42:18.920 but I feel like there was drop off when it 0:42:19.520 --> 0:42:23.840 was Cooper Rush coming in with adjustments. Yeah, but I 0:42:23.920 --> 0:42:26.400 do feel like the last month it was back to 0:42:26.480 --> 0:42:30.200 the same old growth. So I'm gonna say that's what 0:42:30.320 --> 0:42:32.640 I expected from him this season. I didn't expect anything 0:42:32.960 --> 0:42:35.640 more or anything less because overall, I feel like the 0:42:35.719 --> 0:42:38.560 offense was still figuring itself out and didn't really give 0:42:38.640 --> 0:42:40.399 him his best assistant chance. 0:42:40.520 --> 0:42:42.920 Yeah, I said over, under, over, And that's exactly why. 0:42:43.160 --> 0:42:45.839 Just because you saw him play well with Dak Cooper Rush, 0:42:45.880 --> 0:42:49.120 you didn't see him do so much to do so well, 0:42:49.239 --> 0:42:52.040 and then you saw obviously with Trey Lance having his 0:42:52.200 --> 0:42:53.359 best game of the year. 0:42:57.000 --> 0:43:03.200 Hard for me, I would say, is there like the middle. 0:43:06.000 --> 0:43:08.560 Like one under? 0:43:09.080 --> 0:43:10.160 I guess I would say, I guess. 0:43:10.200 --> 0:43:13.239 I would say, I'm gonna say under, and I'm not. 0:43:13.360 --> 0:43:15.520 I'm gonna be fair because I'm a tough critic when 0:43:15.560 --> 0:43:18.279 it comes to Jayleen Tobert probably, but I'm gonna say 0:43:18.400 --> 0:43:19.719 under because I really. 0:43:19.640 --> 0:43:21.319 Expected for him, especially with. 0:43:21.440 --> 0:43:25.000 Brandon Cooks being out to really take charge of that 0:43:25.120 --> 0:43:28.200 wide receiver to spot. And don't get me wrong, to 0:43:28.320 --> 0:43:31.239 your point, there's been drop off and some guys like 0:43:31.400 --> 0:43:35.960 Jay Ferguson has has has really got the short end 0:43:36.000 --> 0:43:37.759 of the stick with Dak being out. 0:43:38.000 --> 0:43:39.640 Some guys need their quarterback. 0:43:39.920 --> 0:43:42.120 I know that CDs that want like CD's that one 0:43:42.200 --> 0:43:45.120 guy that can just play with anybody. Some guys can't. 0:43:45.680 --> 0:43:47.600 And I think Jaylen Tobert to your point, took some 0:43:47.719 --> 0:43:50.240 time to adjust to Cooper Rush how Cooper Rush delivers 0:43:50.280 --> 0:43:52.480 the ball. But you see the difference in how he 0:43:52.680 --> 0:43:54.759 looks when Trey Lance is throwing him the. 0:43:54.760 --> 0:43:55.800 Ball on the move, you know. 0:43:55.920 --> 0:43:59.160 So for me, I think I expected him for to 0:43:59.360 --> 0:44:02.440 really take that role and to be certain about that. 0:44:02.600 --> 0:44:04.840 So I'm gonna say under even though I do like 0:44:05.000 --> 0:44:07.640 the improvements he has made this year, I just expected 0:44:07.640 --> 0:44:08.160 a little more. 0:44:08.320 --> 0:44:12.520 Okay, last one, Chauncey over. 0:44:14.000 --> 0:44:19.040 My dude, my hot god, Yes, over over over over 0:44:19.400 --> 0:44:20.200 over over. 0:44:21.760 --> 0:44:23.839 I barely want to say over there. 0:44:24.440 --> 0:44:26.680 I think it's over because you had so many injuries 0:44:26.760 --> 0:44:29.440 and you weren't expecting him get to get this much time. 0:44:29.600 --> 0:44:32.080 But before training camp, in training camp, when I saw 0:44:32.200 --> 0:44:35.320 that Zimmer was coming in, I said, I was praying. 0:44:35.920 --> 0:44:38.000 I talked to my room about it and everything I 0:44:38.239 --> 0:44:40.520 asked him. I was like, Lord, please let Chauncy be 0:44:40.560 --> 0:44:43.400 able to play edge. The times I've spoken to Chauncey 0:44:43.920 --> 0:44:46.720 in the locker room, he's an edge. He was drafted 0:44:46.800 --> 0:44:49.279 to be an edge and to finally for I was 0:44:49.360 --> 0:44:50.200 hoping Zimmer. 0:44:49.920 --> 0:44:51.520 Will move him back to his correct position. 0:44:51.800 --> 0:44:53.759 He did, and we got to see him have the 0:44:53.840 --> 0:44:55.760 best season of his career five and a half sacks 0:44:55.800 --> 0:44:56.200 on the year. 0:44:56.880 --> 0:44:59.040 Just I'm very proud of him. 0:44:59.320 --> 0:45:02.680 Yea, yeah, very proud. I'm gonna I'm gonna say over 0:45:02.840 --> 0:45:08.600 because honestly, he was a name that wasn't expected to 0:45:08.680 --> 0:45:11.320 do much right and and he made a name for 0:45:11.480 --> 0:45:14.399 himself in the NFL to where what you know, when 0:45:14.480 --> 0:45:17.320 the opposing offense is talking about you and their press 0:45:17.360 --> 0:45:20.760 conferences and their OC's are naming you just point blank, 0:45:21.120 --> 0:45:24.400 you know you have made yourself a name. And he 0:45:25.120 --> 0:45:29.279 literally did that. So I wasn't expecting him to have 0:45:29.320 --> 0:45:31.680 as great of a season as he did, But we 0:45:31.840 --> 0:45:34.360 also didn't expect all the injuries. We didn't expect the 0:45:34.400 --> 0:45:37.799 season to be what it was. But overall, we also, 0:45:37.960 --> 0:45:40.160 to your point, didn't know where exactly he would be playing, 0:45:40.200 --> 0:45:42.040 because we didn't know how Zin would want to utilize him. 0:45:42.120 --> 0:45:45.320 So I really like didn't have much expectations for the 0:45:45.400 --> 0:45:49.560 defense overall other than Micah. But I'm glad Chauncey made 0:45:49.560 --> 0:45:52.000 a name for himself. So he has a lot of 0:45:52.080 --> 0:45:52.960 good stuff. 0:45:53.120 --> 0:45:54.280 He about to make some money. 0:45:54.520 --> 0:45:57.399 Absolutely, he's about somewhere else. 0:45:57.440 --> 0:45:59.920 I'll go make your money. Go make your money, Chancey, 0:46:00.239 --> 0:46:03.280 go make your money wherever it is here there, hopefully 0:46:03.360 --> 0:46:05.560 here not all right. 0:46:05.520 --> 0:46:06.080 Well, we gotta go. 0:46:06.280 --> 0:46:09.880 This has been fun like always for Ayham, Morrison, Jestin Ours. 0:46:09.680 --> 0:46:10.360 Nicole Hedgison. 0:46:10.480 --> 0:46:12.880 We'll be back here next Tuesday at one o'clock. 0:46:13.640 --> 0:46:16.600 This has been a production of Dallascowboys dot Com and 0:46:16.800 --> 0:46:18.600 the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.