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Speaker 1: This is Girls Talk Boys Talk, presented by invisi Line,

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Speaker 1: trusted by over five hundred NFL players for their winning smiles,

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Speaker 1: and broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the Star.

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Speaker 1: Now your host, Nicole Hutchison, What.

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Speaker 3: Up, Cowboys Nation? Welcome in the Girls Talk Boys Talk Off.

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Speaker 4: Season of Edition.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess we can call it off season edition.

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Speaker 3: Screw it all right? Presented by invisil Line. Nicole hedcheson

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Speaker 3: here alongside Asia Warrison and Jess Navarez.

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Speaker 4: How y'all doing, ladies?

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Speaker 2: Were here? Good?

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Speaker 4: Oh my god? Thank you Jazz right on time.

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Speaker 2: I was about to say, I'm a little sleepy.

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Speaker 5: Ah, we're good. We're getting ready from the storm. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: come literally bundle up.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely.

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Speaker 2: I'm just not made for this kind of weather, So

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Speaker 2: when it's cold, I'm just I just hate it, every

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Speaker 2: second of it. Actually, I know one thing.

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Speaker 4: We also hate the fact that the season's over so soon.

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Speaker 2: I also hate that.

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Speaker 3: Let's talk about it real fast. We can keep it

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Speaker 3: short and sweet in the first segment, because we do

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Speaker 3: have to talk about it. The Washington Commanders came here

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Speaker 3: in at and T Stadium and left with a win.

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Speaker 3: So the Cowboys split the season. Split the matchup head

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Speaker 3: to head series this year one to one.

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Speaker 4: The Commanders take the win twenty three to nineteen. On Sunday,

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Speaker 4: Thoughts about the game, I'll start with you, Jess.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it was. It was probably the most

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Speaker 2: entertaining game of the day that day. That's for dang

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Speaker 2: shirt literally coming down the last few seconds there. You know.

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Speaker 2: Going into that game, I was interested to see a

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Speaker 2: few things, specifically with the younger guys and get some

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Speaker 2: questions answered that we all had, and surrounding Trey Lance specifically,

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Speaker 2: so I'm glad we have more of a sample size

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Speaker 2: to base off of, you know, the kind of quarterback

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Speaker 2: he is and where improvement still lies. But overall, I mean,

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Speaker 2: the guys didn't stop fighting, so I will say that

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Speaker 2: the guys were still showing some fight. So I wish

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Speaker 2: it would have been a want a win to cap

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Speaker 2: off the season, but it is what it is. The

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Speaker 2: season couldn't have ended soon enough. I just wanted everybody

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Speaker 2: to get out of their healthy go into the off

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Speaker 2: season and start working for next year.

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Speaker 4: Really a second that sister.

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Speaker 2: Take some time off first though, take some time off,

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Speaker 2: enjoy their enjoy their personal life with their families who

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Speaker 2: don't get to see them all year, and then get

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Speaker 2: to work. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I mean, in regard to the game, I thought that

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Speaker 5: Dallas came out, they were aggressive. We saw some good

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Speaker 5: things early and then in the second half of the game.

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Speaker 5: Which we've seen with them is that they weren't able

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Speaker 5: to continue that offensively and Washington was able to figure

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Speaker 5: out some things offensively. The Cowboys defensive line gave them

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Speaker 5: fits six sacts on the day. I mean, Michael Parsons

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Speaker 5: just lets you know it was probably gonna be a

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Speaker 5: long day. But Washington made adjustments, and after making those adjustments,

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Speaker 5: Dallas took away to Terry McLaurin for a whole half

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Speaker 5: like and then they came out in the second half.

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Speaker 5: Cliff Kingsbury does what a good offensive coordinator did and

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Speaker 5: found favorable matchups. So they just kind of chipped away

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Speaker 5: at the Cowboys and then towards the end you saw

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Speaker 5: it just breaking and that's just that's just a good ball.

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Speaker 5: But it's just a great ball. By Jay and Daniels,

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Speaker 5: a really good catch by Terry McLaurin, and you just

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Speaker 5: can't play it any better.

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Speaker 4: So for me, you look at the.

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Speaker 5: Things that happened, the penalties and stuff like that that

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Speaker 5: put them in position. It's just very, very representative of

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Speaker 3: Yep, almost there, almost there, the mistakes, the costly in

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Speaker 3: the end, but I mean, it's just them shooting themselves

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Speaker 4: Yes, No, I went to the dinners this morning talking about.

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Speaker 2: So you were doing so good.

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Speaker 3: It's so good, but it just felt weird, like by

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Speaker 3: it is weird weird, Thank goodness. Okay, why do you

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Speaker 5: But anyway, it's given the joke, it's given the joker.

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Speaker 3: Why that's crazy, that's.

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Speaker 5: I can't smirk, y'all so serious?

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Speaker 4: So mean, Oh my, I'm joking, And that's how I founded.

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Speaker 3: No, you don't.

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Speaker 5: Look crazy at all.

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Speaker 4: We just messed with you. I was trying to do

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Speaker 4: my snork and I couldn't do it.

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Speaker 1: Yourself.

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Speaker 2: What are you trying to do working? It's not working.

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Speaker 2: Not your eyes watering because you're trying.

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Speaker 3: I can't do it and it's irritating me.

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Speaker 2: All do it.

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Speaker 3: You can do it. Back on track. Sorry that out there.

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Speaker 3: I think it.

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Speaker 4: It's more so just like the theme of the season,

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Speaker 3: Is that the mistakes backfired them every single time, whether

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Speaker 3: But I liked the way that Trey Lance had a

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Speaker 3: command of the offense. That was something that I wanted

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Speaker 3: in the preseason where he was obviously still trying to

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Speaker 3: there was some nervousness preseason, but I feel like he

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Speaker 4: Mental was right going in. So I feel like he

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Speaker 3: It was just them shooting themselves in the freaking foot

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Speaker 2: Well, and when you put your quarterback behind the sticks constantly, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it just makes it ten times harder to come back,

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Speaker 2: especially a quarterback who hadn't played a regular season game.

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Speaker 2: And what was it like for one hundred and eighty days?

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Speaker 2: even more, But see him clearly tied to that, That's okay.

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Speaker 2: But you know what I really enjoyed was seeing his

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Speaker 2: you could see that I will say something I did

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Speaker 2: just being very nitpicky again because we're there to evaluate

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Speaker 2: the kind of job he did. But those quick short passes,

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Speaker 2: I mean he was going one read and passing it

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Speaker 2: really hope now the conversation of Trey Lance not being

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Speaker 2: to silence. I'd like to see more of him. I

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Speaker 2: don't know if that'll be here or somewhere else, but

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Speaker 2: I do think what he showed was good to get

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Speaker 4: Let me ask you something.

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Speaker 3: Do y'all feel like if Trey Lance would have started

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Speaker 3: a couple of games prior to Week eighteen, that he

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Speaker 4: Better than Cooper Rush? Yes, what do you have been

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Speaker 4: the better option?

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Speaker 5: Yes? I mean, with respect, I appreciate what Cooper Rush

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Speaker 4: As an offense.

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Speaker 5: He is one hundred percent the epitome of and I

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Speaker 5: know it gets a negative connotation, but it's not a

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Speaker 5: do He's gonna run that offense. He's not gonna do

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Speaker 5: a lot of improvising. He's going to be on script.

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Speaker 5: He's gonna be on Q and he's gonna make he's

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Speaker 5: that when when offenses looking with defenses look at him,

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Speaker 5: they have to account for multiple things he can do.

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Speaker 5: Now to just this point, I thought that the game

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Speaker 5: So the things that I would hope he would continue

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Speaker 5: But I do think we got to see that he

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Speaker 4: Playing actual reps.

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Speaker 5: And so for me, I walked away from it saying,

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Speaker 4: If he's not splitting.

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Speaker 5: Reps with Cooper Rush, what type of player are we

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Speaker 5: gonna start seeing? And he is a he can do

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Speaker 5: a lot of things that excite you. But also to

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Speaker 5: one thing I noticed was how I felt like they

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Speaker 5: getting people the ball on the move, getting Jaylen Tope

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Speaker 5: catch opportunities. I think that's some of what we got

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Speaker 5: to see with him that we haven't gotten to see

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Speaker 5: with Cooper Rush as much.

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Speaker 4: So there was something I'm so sorry, No, you're okay.

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Speaker 2: I just wanted to say, like your to answer your

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Speaker 2: think it depends on what kind of offense you want

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Speaker 5: Trey Lance can't do that. I'm just being straight up

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Speaker 4: He's not the athlete.

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Speaker 4: That's when he was using his mobility. Yes, last year.

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Speaker 3: And I think that's why Jaalen Tolbert had his best

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Speaker 5: But yeah, yeah, but he's just great and scrambled drill.

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Speaker 5: And I think that that's something that Jalen Tobert does well.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean statistically ninety eight yards, that's great that's

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Speaker 2: it's at the end of the day, like I just

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Speaker 2: I just wish, you know, the And this doesn't even

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Speaker 3: We're y'all happy to see due action.

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Speaker 5: I was ecstatic and pissed off, Yeah, because why because

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Speaker 5: I was happy.

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Speaker 4: It ticked me off.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, to me, I'm like, oh, exciting, But why did

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Speaker 2: it take so long to see this? Because to me, yes,

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Speaker 2: technically that's two more weeks he could have gotten reps

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Speaker 2: But I also don't get it because Cooper Rush is

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Speaker 2: And he's a guy that at the beginning of the season,

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Speaker 2: him get working and where was all that? Like, I

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Speaker 3: I didn't realize that Hunter Luky only had twelve carries

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Speaker 2: For thirty eight.

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Speaker 5: Years, crazy, he's been an extension of your offensive line.

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Speaker 4: And that's it. And that's just.

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Speaker 2: Like, there's just no reason for it.

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Speaker 5: There's no reason why we couldn't have more opportunities. And

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Speaker 5: sometimes and I'm just like you to make you laugh.

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Speaker 2: On the broadcast when you were hearing the I think

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Speaker 5: Like, yeah, we saw him do some things.

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Speaker 2: You can utilize it to your advantage, to your point.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, we saw him do some things in past pro

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I.

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Speaker 4: Next season.

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Speaker 3: He tweeted out that one day after the Chicago Bears,

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Speaker 3: obviously they sought out permission to interview.

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Speaker 3: Well, that contract comes to an end soon, but current

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Speaker 3: head coach still Michael McCarthy, uh to interview him still

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Speaker 3: one day after that, so today they still have not

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Speaker 3: heard a response. But again I think that we should

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Speaker 3: note that we do not know any updates on whether

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Speaker 3: or not McCarthy's agent is negotiating with the front office.

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Speaker 4: Currently, we don't know anything.

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Speaker 2: This is just the.

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Speaker 4: Tweets that we see, so we have to.

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Speaker 3: Talk about it. Yeah, just let me ask you something.

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Speaker 3: Mike McCarthy back for another year. If he's not back,

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Speaker 3: what are the coach out there? Do you feel y'all

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Speaker 3: have confidence in coming in and let's say, establishing the

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Speaker 3: same type of culture here.

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Speaker 2: Is there anybody that Chelsea Damn Quinn, No, I'm not.

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Speaker 2: That was a joke. I'm that little kid that's like

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Speaker 2: with the microphone. He's like starts crying. That's me when

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Speaker 2: I talk about this. No, if you're talking about this

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Speaker 2: exact culture, yeah, probably not anybody I can think of

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Speaker 2: at least that comes to mind. It If you wanted

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Speaker 2: that culture to kind of continue in a way, you'd

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Speaker 2: have to bring somebody up that's already on staff put them.

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Speaker 2: Other than that, it would be a clean slate, I

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Speaker 2: feel with the options out there that are available.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think the first person that comes to mind

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Speaker 5: is Mike Veriables the older school energy like. I think

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Speaker 5: he would get you like McCarthy, not like McCarthy, but

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Speaker 5: they might like him because of how he how he is,

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Speaker 5: how he coaches. And I honestly, honestly, I don't have

522
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Speaker 5: an idea of whoever it is, whoever it is is

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Speaker 5: gonna have to encapsulate this locker room in a way

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Speaker 5: that is hasn't been done yet because they haven't won

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Speaker 5: a championship. I just think it's gonna be different. It's

526
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Speaker 5: it's difficult because you have whoever comes in here has

527
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Speaker 5: to really set the tone for it's us against the world.

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Speaker 2: There's this team.

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Speaker 5: We talk about how different this team than any other team.

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Speaker 5: So the way that they prepare, the way they do things,

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Speaker 5: it may not look like any other team, Like they

532
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Speaker 5: might have to go harder, they may not get the

533
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Speaker 5: same breaks because it's just not the way that the

534
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Speaker 5: media talks about them. They're always in the fire, They're

535
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Speaker 5: always it's never enough like they would he would have

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Speaker 5: to they would have to reshape. But another thing too,

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Speaker 5: you talk about the Pies respectfully, like this team has

538
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Speaker 5: literally almost led the NFL and penalties since Michael Crothy

539
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Speaker 5: has been the coach who comes in and fixed that

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Speaker 5: discipline because it but it because it also in Jason Garrett,

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Speaker 5: they were one of the highest penalized. Like I can't

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Speaker 5: picture what coach comes in and fixes fixes that. Like

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Speaker 5: those type of issues that you've been dealing with for

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Speaker 5: in multiple years.

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Speaker 2: You also think do you want a quick fix or

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Speaker 2: do you want a long term fix? And then that

547
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Speaker 2: also goes into your quarterback getting older, some of your

548
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Speaker 2: veteran players possibly not being on the roster because you

549
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Speaker 2: have twenty two free agents to worry about. There's so

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Speaker 2: many unknowns right now that I feel like the first

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Speaker 2: domino that needs to fall is figuring out who your

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Speaker 2: head coaches please, and then you can figure out the

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Speaker 2: rest of it, because if you really are cleaning everything,

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Speaker 2: cleaning house, that a lot goes into that and a

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Speaker 2: lot of time. I feel like, especially for this locker room,

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Speaker 2: like you've said, that have created their own world and

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Speaker 2: this is us against the world. They need time to

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Speaker 2: mentally prepare for that, get on the same page with

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Speaker 2: a new staff if that's what happens, and communicate and

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Speaker 2: really build that relationship earlier, sooner rather than later. I guess.

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Speaker 2: So for me, everything is in standstill until the decision

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Speaker 2: is made because you cannot do anything else other than that,

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Speaker 2: because even requiring free agents and going even through that

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Speaker 2: and deciding who gets to stay and who potentially doesn't,

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Speaker 2: you can't do that until you know what your system

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Speaker 2: looks like under said head coach.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you look around the NFL, I mean coaches have

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Speaker 3: already lost their jobs. Yeah, you talked at the Jaguars

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Speaker 3: they fired their head coach. The Patriots have fired their

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Speaker 3: head coach. New Orleans Saints have fired their head Yeah.

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Speaker 3: The list just goes on and on and on.

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Speaker 5: And that's the thing that stressing me is again, like

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Speaker 5: you said, we don't know what's going on behind the scenes,

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Speaker 5: et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. However, those coaches, the

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Speaker 5: coaches that you might won't, the good wins, the ben Jons,

576
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Speaker 5: like these guys, they're interviewing right now and if you can't,

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Speaker 5: you can't even you can't interview. And we kind of

578
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Speaker 5: ran into something like this last year, if I'm not mistaken,

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Speaker 5: is that dan Quinn was interviewing. We were one hundred

580
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Speaker 5: percent knew that dan Quinn was probably on his way out.

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Speaker 5: It was time he came here to rejuvenate his career.

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Speaker 5: He did that, he got the whole head coaching job

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Speaker 5: in Washington. Dallas ran into a very similar thing to

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Speaker 5: where and I like what Zimmer did here. It worked out,

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Speaker 5: but it ain't no different than it's like first come,

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Speaker 5: first herve, Like, you're not interviewing the other coaches right

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Speaker 5: now because you haven't made a decision on this coach,

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Speaker 5: So you're you're you're stifling his his you know progress, Well,

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Speaker 5: the progress is saw right now, I'll say that his

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Speaker 5: progress isn't happening.

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Speaker 4: But you also can't.

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Speaker 5: Progress until you find out what you know, who's going

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Speaker 5: to be the head coach. So it's just not it's

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Speaker 5: not a good way to do things because I'm telling you,

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Speaker 5: we're gonna be looking at draft, combine and all that stuff,

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Speaker 5: and then it's gonna be free agency before we know it.

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Speaker 5: Who's going to be the head coach to start planning

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Speaker 5: out what things are going to look like, and then

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Speaker 5: the players on a team, the assistant coaches, these guys

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Speaker 5: also deserve to know what their lives are going to

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Speaker 5: look like or if they're going to have to start

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Speaker 5: preparing for a new scheme.

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Speaker 2: Well, and I would imagine even like Dak coming back

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Speaker 2: from this injury, you know who can't physically do a

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Speaker 2: lot and it takes, you know, milestone by milestone to

606
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Speaker 2: come back. All you really have is your playbook and

607
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Speaker 2: your system to sit there and study and mentally prepare yourself.

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Speaker 2: What does he have to study right now? Because what

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Speaker 2: if it does not look the same? So for me too,

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Speaker 2: if you want your quarterback to come in prepared post injury,

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Speaker 2: you need to give him his material, his book, his

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Speaker 2: his binder, if you will, of whatever the system is

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Speaker 2: going to look like and what it requires out of him.

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Speaker 4: Let me ask you something, y'all think Al Harris. Let's

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Speaker 4: say Mike Zimmer decides that he sorry.

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Speaker 3: Let's say the front office decides not to keep Mike

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Speaker 3: Zimmer or Mike Zimmer decides not to stay here, uh

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Speaker 3: to continue coaching as the defensive coordinator.

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Speaker 4: Do y'all think it's time for Al Harris to be

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Speaker 4: the DC?

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Speaker 2: It takes a lot to be a DC.

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Speaker 5: I don't know. I think the world of our Harris,

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Speaker 5: so I want to be very careful, but I do

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Speaker 5: understand that being a DC is very intricate, and I

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Speaker 5: don't know if he's if he even feels like he's

626
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Speaker 5: ready to take that on. It is a lot of responsibility,

627
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Speaker 5: it's a lot to do. They moved him into what

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Speaker 5: the assistant head coach position this year, which was dope.

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Speaker 5: But I have no idea because we have not seen

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Speaker 5: him in a coordinator capacity. Now, I will say the

631
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Speaker 5: NFL is doing this thing where they're taking chances on

632
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Speaker 5: play on coaches now, a lot of former players are

633
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Speaker 5: becoming coaches and you're seeing success in different places. So

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Speaker 5: for me, maybe it works, maybe it doesn't. No idea,

635
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Speaker 5: but it's an option. I suppose if you want to

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Speaker 5: keep staying house, What about you, Jess?

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Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, like if you wanted to progress, somebody

638
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Speaker 2: up it is time. And Al Harris obviously is so

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Speaker 2: respected in that locker room and by his dB room,

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Speaker 2: and his energy is very infectious. But what gets me

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Speaker 2: is you look at a guy like Demo specifically, and

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Speaker 2: I'm thinking of your third year players. That's three different

643
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Speaker 2: systems every year you have been here. Talk about it,

644
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Speaker 2: and if you want growth and development within your players,

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Speaker 2: that year three jump is It's still important because you're

646
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Speaker 2: talking future contracts coming up, long term deals in the

647
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Speaker 2: works and in the talks. You're stifling that growth by

648
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Speaker 2: continuously making these players learn new systems every single year,

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Speaker 2: and that would be three years in a row, especially

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Speaker 2: that rookie class that came in three years ago that

651
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Speaker 2: would have to relearn another new system this year. And

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Speaker 2: to be honest, I was really intrigued with what Mike

653
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Speaker 2: Zimmer had said of you know, if I could go

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Speaker 2: back and change it. I would do things my way.

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Speaker 2: I feel like if he comes back, whether that be

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Speaker 2: because he's offered the job back or because it's on

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Speaker 2: his own terms, whatever the case is, it's only going

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Speaker 2: to be better because of the lessons he did learn

659
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 2: of what not to do. And also to the other

660
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 2: point of that, you have Micah Parsons on this system

661
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 2: that clearly he enjoys doing. I saw Demo tweet that

662
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 2: he wanted Zim to stay. So for me, it's what

663
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 2: do your players feel like they're going to get out

664
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 2: of this and how they're going to grow. So if

665
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 2: they had faith that El Harris, say Zim didn't return

666
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 2: for whatever reason, that El Harris was your guy, If

667
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 2: the players have faith that that could be the elevation

668
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 2: for them and their growth. Sure, if al Harris feels

669
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 2: like he's ready to do it, sure, no matter who

670
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 2: it is. But my thing is, man, you have to

671
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 2: build some kind of future here.

672
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 3: Now.

673
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 2: You have to build some future that tells you I'm

674
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:53,880
Speaker 2: here to stay. You don't have to worry about my

675
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 2: job being on the line next year, because all it

676
00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 2: does is just create this anxiety that's already added to

677
00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 2: the thirty year anniversary, no super Bowl championship. Well, yeah,

678
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:08,040
Speaker 2: you have a new coach every every season. What do

679
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 2: you want? You know, how can you build a super

680
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 2: Bowl winning program if you're just DC after DC after

681
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Speaker 2: d C. And yes, it was Jan's time to go,

682
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 2: but I'm I just want some stability. I agree, and

683
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 2: I'm sure the guys do. And and here's the sorry soapbox.

684
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Speaker 5: I got you, I got you, I got you. What

685
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:30,720
Speaker 5: you do And here's my thing is, if if you're

686
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 5: gonna do what you're doing right now, if you're gonna

687
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:36,320
Speaker 5: be trying to figure out coordinators or whatever, yeah, at

688
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 5: least have the talent to make show up for that,

689
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:40,840
Speaker 5: to make up for changing out, changing out, changing out,

690
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 5: changing out, because that's what.

691
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Speaker 4: That's what them them brown Oh my lord, we're in

692
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 4: a soap box.

693
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:49,960
Speaker 5: That's what them green folks up there up east is doing.

694
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 4: That's what they're doing.

695
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 5: Like they brought in Fangio, they brought in Killing Moore

696
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 5: and guess.

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Speaker 2: What, it's hit.

698
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Speaker 5: But it's hit because they have the talent.

699
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Speaker 2: Well, and look how quickly other teams want Kellen as

700
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Speaker 2: a head coach.

701
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:06,120
Speaker 4: It's like shocking, have mercy, Like if you're gonna do it.

702
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Speaker 2: He gives stability and happen.

703
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Speaker 3: Well, you heard from your players. They've spoken about how

704
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:14,280
Speaker 3: much they love Zimmer. They love his scheme. Jordan Lewis

705
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:16,920
Speaker 3: was very vocal about that in post game. So I

706
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:20,080
Speaker 3: think that there's no doubt about the fact that they

707
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Speaker 3: love what he brought here.

708
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Speaker 4: It is kind of last week sound like, who need

709
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Speaker 4: a nap?

710
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 3: We're not.

711
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Speaker 4: And I understand.

712
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Speaker 5: I under well, first of all, I totally forgot, and

713
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:34,840
Speaker 5: this is something again like we're talking about the coaching

714
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Speaker 5: situation in their lives. I forgot selfishly my bad that

715
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Speaker 5: Mike Simmer lost his son. Yeah, and I mean, come on,

716
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Speaker 5: and he you know last week he was saying in

717
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Speaker 5: his press or you could tell how emotional he was

718
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:51,759
Speaker 5: that he really felt like he wanted to honor his

719
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 5: son come out and do this. But they also enjoyed

720
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Speaker 5: to live there.

721
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Speaker 2: They also, yes, they he's just got engaged to this

722
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 2: is stressful. Yes, he did, this is stressful.

723
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 4: This is a stressful occupation.

724
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 5: So I also am saying I'm happy for him, like

725
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 5: get this camera, engatulations, congratulation.

726
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:18,800
Speaker 2: I can't do it. I can't even look at you

727
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 2: because no season, my look, I don't know.

728
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Speaker 5: Looking at me, Oh nugget Okay, But seriously, anyways, seriously,

729
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 5: whatever he decides, I'm gonna be happy for him if

730
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:39,400
Speaker 5: he wants to come back here. I believe that my

731
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:43,000
Speaker 5: Zimmer system is relevant to what the NFL is today.

732
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Speaker 4: He can do things.

733
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Speaker 5: Hopefully the secondary is not completely decimated.

734
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Speaker 2: Lord have mercy.

735
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:50,800
Speaker 5: But the way he disguises on the back end, he

736
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 5: prioritizes to stop in the run. He's exotic with his

737
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:55,480
Speaker 5: fronts with it. He does so many different looks. He

738
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 5: puts a lot of stress on defenses, and like that

739
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:00,719
Speaker 5: puts a lot of stress on offenses. I think what

740
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 5: he does as a coordinator is relevant to today's NFL.

741
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:06,880
Speaker 5: Get him the players if he wants to stay here,

742
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 5: or get somebody with a similar or get someone with

743
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:12,719
Speaker 5: a similar mindset. So to Jess's point, which is a

744
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 5: fantastic point, that your players are not having to learn

745
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 5: a whole new system again because you're gonna be going

746
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Speaker 5: through another install again.

747
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Speaker 2: God, and I just I can't something about Demo in

748
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:26,440
Speaker 2: this specific instance, because you're talking year three for him.

749
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 2: He came off of season ending injury, learned a new system,

750
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:34,920
Speaker 2: looked phenomenal this season. Now another season ending injury that

751
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:37,920
Speaker 2: you know, reports were saying he would be back by

752
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:40,719
Speaker 2: sooner rather than later. And I can't say I did

753
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:43,760
Speaker 2: talk to him. Over the weekend. I hosted an event

754
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 2: and he was there, and this man in his brace

755
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 2: and everything, still wanted to talk to these fans, and

756
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 2: all the fans were like, we need you back. Next

757
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 2: to your man, He's like, I'll be there, don't like.

758
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:58,399
Speaker 2: He was so reassuring for them, and so for him.

759
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:01,239
Speaker 2: All we talked about was is you know, the little

760
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 2: milestones he has to take right now in his in

761
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:05,920
Speaker 2: his rehab, and you know, it's little things you don't

762
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 2: think of. Drive a car, walk a certain amount of steps,

763
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 2: you know, and things like that. And he is very

764
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:15,399
Speaker 2: positive and driven. Just like Demo looks in his football game,

765
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 2: he looks in his recovery and rehab game ready to

766
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:21,959
Speaker 2: attack it. So I do believe him when he says

767
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 2: he'll be back sooner rather than later. But to that point,

768
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 2: I just can't stop thinking of Demo having to learn

769
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Speaker 2: another mayor system may Marison. I mean, all these guys,

770
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Speaker 2: your second and third year players specifically, are the impacted

771
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Speaker 5: They want to mercy.

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Speaker 2: Girl, I know, like we knew that already though. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: are you gonna go out there and play?

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Speaker 4: Absolutely not.

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Speaker 2: I think years. I think you could hang.

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Speaker 5: People don't be understanding how serious Tennessee is.

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Speaker 2: It's so serious Nicole does. She does for everyone who doesn't.

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Speaker 4: I used to coach him my free time.

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Speaker 2: That's crazy. I feel like you'd be a good coach.

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Speaker 2: Thanks girl, I do.

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Speaker 4: I appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: I feel like you would.

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Speaker 4: All Right, we're gonna play a little over under. Let's

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Speaker 4: go who over.

844
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Speaker 3: Exceeded the expectations or under exceeded expectations this year?

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00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:09,440
Speaker 4: Brandon Kooks.

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00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:12,359
Speaker 5: Under.

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Speaker 2: M hm wow, injury, simple as that under injury straight

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Speaker 2: like that. Rock Coffman over.

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Speaker 5: Okay.

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Speaker 2: I feel like the confidence in the chirpiness. It was

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Speaker 2: nice to see it waster.

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Speaker 4: He's a cent too for your interior.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, bebby.

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Speaker 5: Let me tell you something the way. Jonathan Allen ain't

855
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 5: gonna want to deal with him. Jonathan Allen, I'm not

856
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:40,800
Speaker 5: gonna want to deal with him for more seasons because

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00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 5: he just he's He's our Draymond Green.

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Speaker 4: Yep, that's a good one. You need one.

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00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:49,279
Speaker 2: He's Draymond Green well and also too, like I just

860
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:52,279
Speaker 2: feel like watching him play now, it was such a

861
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 2: close tie between him and Cooper Rush for a Cooper

862
00:41:55,640 --> 00:42:00,040
Speaker 2: Rush bb my bad for the starting center position, but

863
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 2: I do feel like there could be possibility for both

864
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 2: of them to be in that line. Hopefully next year

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00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:07,600
Speaker 2: it's a good thing.

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Speaker 5: Over.

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Speaker 2: I mean I expected, I expected, I knew, I knew,

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00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:18,920
Speaker 2: but I feel like there was drop off when it

869
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:23,840
Speaker 2: was Cooper Rush coming in with adjustments. Yeah, but I

870
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:26,400
Speaker 2: do feel like the last month it was back to

871
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:30,200
Speaker 2: the same old growth. So I'm gonna say that's what

872
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 2: I expected from him this season. I didn't expect anything

873
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 2: more or anything less because overall, I feel like the

874
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 2: offense was still figuring itself out and didn't really give

875
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:40,399
Speaker 2: him his best assistant chance.

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00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:42,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I said over, under, over, And that's exactly why.

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00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:45,839
Speaker 3: Just because you saw him play well with Dak Cooper Rush,

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00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 3: you didn't see him do so much to do so well,

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00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 3: and then you saw obviously with Trey Lance having his

880
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:53,359
Speaker 3: best game of the year.

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00:42:57,000 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 2: Hard for me, I would say, is there like the middle.

882
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 4: Like one under?

883
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 2: I guess I would say, I guess.

884
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:13,239
Speaker 5: I would say, I'm gonna say under, and I'm not.

885
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 5: I'm gonna be fair because I'm a tough critic when

886
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:18,279
Speaker 5: it comes to Jayleen Tobert probably, but I'm gonna say

887
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:19,719
Speaker 5: under because I really.

888
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:21,319
Speaker 4: Expected for him, especially with.

889
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 5: Brandon Cooks being out to really take charge of that

890
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 5: wide receiver to spot. And don't get me wrong, to

891
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:31,239
Speaker 5: your point, there's been drop off and some guys like

892
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:35,960
Speaker 5: Jay Ferguson has has has really got the short end

893
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:37,759
Speaker 5: of the stick with Dak being out.

894
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 4: Some guys need their quarterback.

895
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 5: I know that CDs that want like CD's that one

896
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:45,120
Speaker 5: guy that can just play with anybody. Some guys can't.

897
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 5: And I think Jaylen Tobert to your point, took some

898
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:50,240
Speaker 5: time to adjust to Cooper Rush how Cooper Rush delivers

899
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:52,480
Speaker 5: the ball. But you see the difference in how he

900
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:54,759
Speaker 5: looks when Trey Lance is throwing him the.

901
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:55,800
Speaker 2: Ball on the move, you know.

902
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 5: So for me, I think I expected him for to

903
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:02,440
Speaker 5: really take that role and to be certain about that.

904
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:04,840
Speaker 5: So I'm gonna say under even though I do like

905
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 5: the improvements he has made this year, I just expected

906
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 5: a little more.

907
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:12,520
Speaker 2: Okay, last one, Chauncey over.

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00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 5: My dude, my hot god, Yes, over over over over

909
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 5: over over.

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00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:23,839
Speaker 4: I barely want to say over there.

911
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 3: I think it's over because you had so many injuries

912
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:29,440
Speaker 3: and you weren't expecting him get to get this much time.

913
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 5: But before training camp, in training camp, when I saw

914
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:35,320
Speaker 5: that Zimmer was coming in, I said, I was praying.

915
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:38,000
Speaker 5: I talked to my room about it and everything I

916
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 5: asked him. I was like, Lord, please let Chauncy be

917
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:43,400
Speaker 5: able to play edge. The times I've spoken to Chauncey

918
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:46,720
Speaker 5: in the locker room, he's an edge. He was drafted

919
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:49,279
Speaker 5: to be an edge and to finally for I was

920
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 5: hoping Zimmer.

921
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 4: Will move him back to his correct position.

922
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:53,759
Speaker 5: He did, and we got to see him have the

923
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:55,760
Speaker 5: best season of his career five and a half sacks

924
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 5: on the year.

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00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 4: Just I'm very proud of him.

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Speaker 2: Yea, yeah, very proud. I'm gonna I'm gonna say over

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Speaker 2: because honestly, he was a name that wasn't expected to

928
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:11,320
Speaker 2: do much right and and he made a name for

929
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:14,399
Speaker 2: himself in the NFL to where what you know, when

930
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:17,320
Speaker 2: the opposing offense is talking about you and their press

931
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:20,760
Speaker 2: conferences and their OC's are naming you just point blank,

932
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:24,400
Speaker 2: you know you have made yourself a name. And he

933
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:29,279
Speaker 2: literally did that. So I wasn't expecting him to have

934
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 2: as great of a season as he did, But we

935
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Speaker 2: also didn't expect all the injuries. We didn't expect the

936
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:37,799
Speaker 2: season to be what it was. But overall, we also,

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00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:40,160
Speaker 2: to your point, didn't know where exactly he would be playing,

938
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Speaker 2: because we didn't know how Zin would want to utilize him.

939
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:45,320
Speaker 2: So I really like didn't have much expectations for the

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00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:49,560
Speaker 2: defense overall other than Micah. But I'm glad Chauncey made

941
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 2: a name for himself. So he has a lot of

942
00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 2: good stuff.

943
00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:54,280
Speaker 5: He about to make some money.

944
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:57,399
Speaker 4: Absolutely, he's about somewhere else.

945
00:45:57,440 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 2: I'll go make your money. Go make your money, Chancey,

946
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:03,280
Speaker 2: go make your money wherever it is here there, hopefully

947
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 2: here not all right.

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Speaker 4: Well, we gotta go.

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Speaker 3: This has been fun like always for Ayham, Morrison, Jestin Ours.

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Speaker 4: Nicole Hedgison.

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Speaker 3: We'll be back here next Tuesday at one o'clock.

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