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Speaker 1: From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is

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Speaker 1: riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or

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Speaker 1: learn the stuff they don't want you to know. M

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the show. My name is Matt. Our

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Speaker 1: friend Noel is on some adventures. All will be revealed

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Speaker 1: in time, but they call me Ben where with our

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Speaker 1: super producer Paul Deckett. Most importantly, you are you, You

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Speaker 1: are here, and that makes this stuff they don't want

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Speaker 1: you to know, a very special episode of stuff they

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Speaker 1: don't want you to know. Matt. Yes, we had the

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Speaker 1: opportunity of watching a documentary called Above Majestic, and we

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Speaker 1: got to watch it a little ahead before it came out.

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Speaker 1: And we are so excited today to be joined by

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Speaker 1: one of the creators of this documentary, David Wilcock, who

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Speaker 1: was a professional lecturer, filmmaker and researcher. Uh please, everyone,

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Speaker 1: let's welcome David Wilcock. Well, thank you guys for bringing

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Speaker 1: me on. Um, it's an honor to do your show.

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Speaker 1: I had a career for a while repairing electronics and

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Speaker 1: I was intuitive with it. I would take things apart

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Speaker 1: it's a good fit for me to be on your show. Yes, fantastic. So, David,

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Speaker 1: we wanted to first thank you for being so generous

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Speaker 1: with your time today. Uh, your name is going to

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Speaker 1: be familiar to a lot of us in the audience

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Speaker 1: in this episode and over the course of your career,

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Speaker 1: you have delved into multiple different avenues of research. Your

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Speaker 1: prolific author, we have we've seen several of your books,

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Speaker 1: and we also I guess to to start at the beginning, UM,

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Speaker 1: we were reading through some of your early life experiences

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Speaker 1: available on your website here with UM some some experiences

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Speaker 1: that people would call extraordinary, occurring as early as age

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Speaker 1: two or five. Is that correct? Yeah, definitely correct. I

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Speaker 1: started to have very strange dreams that had cylindrical craft

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Speaker 1: from bug eyed to grays as most people think. You know,

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Speaker 1: First of all, back in the day of the nineteen eighties.

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Speaker 1: about somebody digging up a weird missile in the nineteen tens,

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00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:30,480
Speaker 1: and Stalin went back to that location and that the

432
00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:33,919
Speaker 1: person who had originally found the missile basically like a

433
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:38,480
Speaker 1: steel looking fuselage. Um, they couldn't dig it out of

434
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 1: the ground. They didn't have the equipment or the staff

435
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:43,080
Speaker 1: or the money. So Stalin goes back there in the

436
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:46,560
Speaker 1: nineteen forties and finds the location where this weird missile

437
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:50,120
Speaker 1: was located and they dig it up. Now, this is

438
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:54,560
Speaker 1: where the story gets very very bizarre, because the missile

439
00:28:55,720 --> 00:29:01,720
Speaker 1: was covered in Sanskrit. Now, Sanskrit is the primitive language,

440
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 1: which is really not primitive. It's apparently an extraterrestrial language.

441
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:08,440
Speaker 1: It was brought here from somewhere else. But Sanskrit is

442
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:11,280
Speaker 1: the language that the Hindu scriptures were written in. Okay,

443
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:15,440
Speaker 1: So now you have this weird missile like object that's

444
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:19,040
Speaker 1: dug up, it's got Sanskrit inscriptions on it, and it

445
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:22,240
Speaker 1: has a level of technology that is way way in

446
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:26,959
Speaker 1: excess of chemically propelled rockets that we have. Now in

447
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 1: addition to this, they found a vault. There was a

448
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 1: vault down there, and this is all documented by the

449
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 1: way this is accepted mainstream Russian history. I'm not making

450
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 1: this up, and look it up. It's called Russian roswell.

451
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 1: They found a vault down there, and inside the vault

452
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:44,760
Speaker 1: it was like some kind of a capsule or chamber.

453
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 1: There were a series of books. And these books were

454
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 1: written in some cases in Sanskrit in some cases and

455
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 1: unidentifiable languages, and it had pictures in them of things

456
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 1: like spaceships and space stations with detailed blueprint diagrams on

457
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:03,520
Speaker 1: how to construct them. And so the Soviet Union got

458
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 1: their hands on this stuff, and that allowed for there

459
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:09,520
Speaker 1: to be this covert arms race between the US and

460
00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:13,800
Speaker 1: the USSR, where both sides are using recovered technology to

461
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:19,640
Speaker 1: build these unacknowledged anti gravity spacecraft. In this basically like

462
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:21,600
Speaker 1: a war with each other over who can get this

463
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 1: stuff the fastest under the cover of national security, because

464
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 1: as soon as your enemy knows you have something, it's

465
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:30,200
Speaker 1: not going to be a useful weapon anymore. So all

466
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:32,400
Speaker 1: of this kind of history has been suppressed from the

467
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:37,960
Speaker 1: public unfortunately. And there's there's a very salient, i would

468
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:41,800
Speaker 1: say crucial fact to add here. Um, I want to

469
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:44,640
Speaker 1: go back just briefly. There are probably some people in

470
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:46,520
Speaker 1: the audience who are going to say, well, if there

471
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:50,480
Speaker 1: were some sort of ancient nuclear war thousands and thousands

472
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:54,400
Speaker 1: of years ago, why isn't there a higher amount of

473
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:57,640
Speaker 1: radio activity occurring in some places? But we have to

474
00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 1: remember that the fact is that some of the most

475
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 1: dangerous substances of this nature are like CCM on seven

476
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:08,240
Speaker 1: strontium ninety and they both have half lives of only

477
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:13,040
Speaker 1: thirty and twenty eight years. So a nuclear a nuclear war,

478
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 1: nuclear exchange could occur, and with so much time passing,

479
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 1: we we can't assume that we would run into someplace

480
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 1: with fantastically high radiation, which makes it more plausible than

481
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:31,360
Speaker 1: some people might initially believe. But this when we're in

482
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 1: the modern day. What I what I love UM Well,

483
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:38,920
Speaker 1: I love about you exploring the concept of secret technological

484
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 1: wars is that it's it's absolutely no secret at all

485
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 1: that the US military has a massive, gargantuan black budget,

486
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:52,240
Speaker 1: you know, funds for classified purposes, but most, if not all,

487
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 1: of what that money pays for is a secret. What

488
00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 1: what do you think happens with those trillions and trillions

489
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:01,880
Speaker 1: of dollars spent by the Pentagon? Do you think any

490
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 1: of that goes into programs similar to what you just

491
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:11,720
Speaker 1: described between the Russians and the US. Yeah, absolutely, unquestionably. Uh.

492
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 1: I have one of the insiders who has not come

493
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 1: forward yet but has said that he would. UM is

494
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:22,240
Speaker 1: a guy who actually worked at places like every fifty

495
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 1: one UM working directly in concert with human looking extraterrestrial beings. Uh.

496
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 1: And they talk about very matter of factly about this.

497
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 1: When you get to this level of the military industrial complex,

498
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 1: they have open relations with a wide variety of extraterrestrial beings,

499
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:46,400
Speaker 1: most of which look like US or approximately similar. In fact,

500
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 1: that the gray type is about as dissimilar as a

501
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 1: lot of them end up looking they most of them

502
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 1: look a lot more like us than you would think.

503
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:56,240
Speaker 1: And this is where you get the ancient legends of

504
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 1: God's and this kind of stuff. But before I go

505
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 1: further down that road, I just want to loop back

506
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 1: to something else you said, because there was an implicit

507
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:07,000
Speaker 1: assumption that you made, which is that there is no

508
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 1: evidence of a nuclear exchange that is actually not true.

509
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 1: The the very well known geologist Robert Shock, who has

510
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:23,240
Speaker 1: always been a fixture in the ancient alien community, going

511
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:27,479
Speaker 1: back to the with his speculations on the water weathering

512
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:29,200
Speaker 1: on the back side of the Sphinx and how you

513
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 1: see clear evidence of erosion on the back of the

514
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 1: sphinx that looks like many thousands of years of water

515
00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:39,800
Speaker 1: running down and carving the smooth curves into it. That's

516
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 1: that's what he's most known for in our community, the

517
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 1: ancient astronaut community. But also Robert Shock's latest work is

518
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:54,000
Speaker 1: showing that throughout the entire northern hemisphere of the Earth,

519
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 1: if you go back through the geological layers and you

520
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 1: go back to about twelve thousand five ago, they're about

521
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 1: there is a five inch thick layer of black ash

522
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:12,400
Speaker 1: all over the Northern hemisphere, fascinating, and it has micro

523
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 1: crystalline spheres in it. It has these micro tech types

524
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 1: as they're called, these tiny little crystalline objects that basically

525
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:27,920
Speaker 1: represent the super heat of the nuclear blast, taking all

526
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:30,759
Speaker 1: these pieces of dirt and immediately turning them into little

527
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:34,720
Speaker 1: glass balls that are microscopic. And there is that stuff,

528
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 1: literally five inches thick layer of this black ash all

529
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:42,280
Speaker 1: over the Northern hemisphere. And then also we've discussed how

530
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 1: there are actual still existing radioactive hotspots in various places

531
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 1: in the Northern hemisphere, including an area around the Great

532
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:56,719
Speaker 1: Lakes uh that is exactly exactly the type of radiation

533
00:34:57,400 --> 00:34:59,959
Speaker 1: that you would expect after nuclear exchange. Another great exam

534
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,440
Speaker 1: pol that we talked about on ancient aliens is in

535
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:06,360
Speaker 1: the Sahara Desert where you actually have this green glass

536
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 1: that people were picking up and they were getting radiation

537
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 1: poisoning from it, and this is what happens when a

538
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 1: bomb goes off over like in Hiroshima, Nagasaki. People were

539
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 1: picking up these pieces of glass and then they were

540
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:21,320
Speaker 1: dying from them because it looked beautiful, but it was

541
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:27,240
Speaker 1: highly radioactive. So the proof of that ancient nuclear exchange

542
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 1: is easy to make. It's just that it's not popularized.

543
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:33,879
Speaker 1: It's something that's been suppressed from us. And this gets

544
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 1: back the second part of what you said, which is

545
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 1: this national security state and the suppression of where all

546
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:42,840
Speaker 1: of our money is going. You know, why is the

547
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:46,879
Speaker 1: Pentagon saying that they're losing trillions of dollars They can't

548
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 1: find it? And so getting back to my friend who

549
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:55,680
Speaker 1: worked on eight eight different types of anti gravity that

550
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:59,399
Speaker 1: he learned from actual exterrestrials teaching him this and then

551
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:03,879
Speaker 1: doing the engine nearing work. Oh no, no, no, okay,

552
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 1: this is a guy who's never come forward. Um, he

553
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 1: may want to come forward. We've talked about it. It

554
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 1: would be fascinating if he did, because he would be

555
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 1: saying a lot of the same things that others have said.

556
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 1: He is one of the people I know who visited

557
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:23,719
Speaker 1: our covert bases in Antarctica. There are hot spots geologically

558
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 1: down there from volcanic activity where the ice melts and

559
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 1: it's like a cave, and the Germans discovered it first

560
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:33,400
Speaker 1: with their submarines. They could sail into these caves and

561
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 1: then they find out that there's land in there that

562
00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:38,239
Speaker 1: you can walk around on and if you light it

563
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 1: up and you know, take a look at it, you

564
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:42,440
Speaker 1: can actually wear a T shirt in there. It's nice

565
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:46,759
Speaker 1: and warm from the volcanoes. So there's ruins down there,

566
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:49,799
Speaker 1: there's actual pyramids and stone structures and all that kind

567
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:54,879
Speaker 1: of stuff. And there's a huge, huge covert presence down there,

568
00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 1: and I have been given various code names of what

569
00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:00,400
Speaker 1: it's called. That's one of the ways that I figure

570
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:03,239
Speaker 1: out who's real is. There's things that I don't disclose,

571
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:06,239
Speaker 1: but I've spoken to lots of different insiders who have

572
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:09,279
Speaker 1: actually been down there, and they've been under the ice

573
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 1: and Antarctica. And the really really amazing thing, of course,

574
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:18,759
Speaker 1: is that there is a gigantic three mile wide spaceship

575
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:22,400
Speaker 1: that they found under the ice and Antarctica. It crash

576
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 1: landed before it was all covered with ice. This thing

577
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:30,319
Speaker 1: is totally amazing, UM. And they've been inside of it.

578
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 1: They've seen the rooms that people live in. Uh. They

579
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 1: had a very interesting system where all the waste from

580
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:44,480
Speaker 1: the bathroom is then uh pumped into Everybody had like

581
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:47,480
Speaker 1: a backyard inside the ship, so it appears that you're outdoors.

582
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 1: There's like a holographic projection where it looks like the sky,

583
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 1: and then your own bodily waste is used to funnel

584
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:57,239
Speaker 1: into the growth of trees and grass and all the

585
00:37:57,239 --> 00:38:00,239
Speaker 1: stuff that you have in your yard inside this mother ship.

586
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:03,880
Speaker 1: And another thing that was fascinating was they found many

587
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:08,759
Speaker 1: smaller craft inside the large craft, and those craft look

588
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:13,399
Speaker 1: exactly like the ancient Hindu depictions of the Vimana. So

589
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:17,160
Speaker 1: wherever these people in the Vedas came from the Hindu Vedas,

590
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:22,920
Speaker 1: it appears that our government has found their ship in Antarctica. Uh.

591
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:27,400
Speaker 1: And there's been investigations where they're analyzing the debris and

592
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:30,280
Speaker 1: the wreckage all the way back to the nineteen fifties.

593
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:33,640
Speaker 1: There's some very strange stuff. This stuff does. You can

594
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:36,480
Speaker 1: you can sing to the metal and it will change

595
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:38,719
Speaker 1: shape and form that you can tell it what you

596
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 1: want to do and it will do it um. So

597
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:44,799
Speaker 1: it's way way more advanced than the stuff that we

598
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 1: have now. And I've had various insiders tell me that

599
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:52,920
Speaker 1: they are really jealous that I've been briefed on this

600
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 1: stuff and that I'm allowed to talk about it right now,

601
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:58,280
Speaker 1: because they are planning on telling us about this stuff

602
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:00,440
Speaker 1: in the future. But there's a lot of eyes that

603
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:02,920
Speaker 1: I wish they could talk about it right now, but

604
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:05,799
Speaker 1: they're not authorized to yet. They're jealous of me that

605
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:08,880
Speaker 1: I get to talk about it. On how stuff works,

606
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:11,799
Speaker 1: this this brings us to something that may be a

607
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 1: little bit of a personal question, but we know tons

608
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 1: of people in our audience are wondering this. Have you

609
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:24,279
Speaker 1: or your associates ever been threatened or harassed or intimidated

610
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:26,960
Speaker 1: or have you ever felt that you were not safe

611
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:32,799
Speaker 1: due to the nature of your investigations? Absolutely, without question, Uh,

612
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 1: there are very powerful groups that have kept this information

613
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:41,799
Speaker 1: hidden from us for a variety of different reasons. And

614
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 1: I'll give you a couple of examples of why they

615
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 1: would want to keep it secret. First of all, if

616
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:50,240
Speaker 1: you guys have ever done examinations of how stuff works

617
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 1: in history, right you got into an examination of how

618
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 1: war works, then you would know that if, for example,

619
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:01,839
Speaker 1: you look at a period of history are everybody has

620
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:06,239
Speaker 1: bronze weapons, and then somebody comes out with steel, the

621
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:08,920
Speaker 1: steel is going to destroy the bronze, right, So everybody

622
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:12,920
Speaker 1: with those steel swords is going to destroy the bronze. Similarly,

623
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 1: if you go back to a time in history where

624
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:18,280
Speaker 1: everybody is fighting with bows, and arrows, and then somebody

625
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:21,440
Speaker 1: comes out with the crossbow. The guys with the crossbows

626
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 1: are going to completely devastate the people with bows and arrows.

627
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 1: Whoever has the most destructive and effective technology in a

628
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 1: war is the winner, right, can we agree on that? So, therefore,

629
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 1: if you are a national security state, if your goal

630
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:45,359
Speaker 1: is to make sure that your position of power is

631
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:48,279
Speaker 1: not threatened, why in the world would you want to

632
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:50,800
Speaker 1: tell the enemy, which in this case is the mass

633
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 1: public and therefore anybody who could start to do things

634
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 1: at home. Why would you tell the enemy that you

635
00:40:57,600 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 1: have a superior weapon. That's a good point. It's a

636
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 1: great question because we know that we know that there's solid,

637
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:10,040
Speaker 1: there's solid, compelling evidence that, at least in the case

638
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:12,760
Speaker 1: of the U. S military, uh, they are in possession

639
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:16,719
Speaker 1: of technologies that the average public is unaware of and

640
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 1: doesn't have access to until years after their invention. And

641
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 1: let's pause there just for a moment. We're going to

642
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:26,359
Speaker 1: hear a word from our sponsor and won't be right back.

643
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:41,320
Speaker 1: You know, personally, my I oscillate between some skepticism and

644
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:45,120
Speaker 1: then like full on believer of things. And in this case,

645
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:49,240
Speaker 1: when we're talking about that massive spaceship uh, down beneath

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Speaker 1: the ice in Antarctica. I what makes you personally believe

647
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:58,200
Speaker 1: through the accounts of others that this thing is real? Well,

648
00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:01,799
Speaker 1: I understand the difficulty that you're facing, and it's a

649
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 1: difficulty that I've faced as well. Um, I'm standing on

650
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:07,719
Speaker 1: the mountaintop now, and I get to look down at

651
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 1: the whole path I took to get here, which has

652
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:14,239
Speaker 1: taken me thirty thirty five years. And much of this

653
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 1: information came to me after many, many years of not

654
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:20,839
Speaker 1: having it and working very hard and risking my life,

655
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 1: as you were just talking about to get this information. Uh.

656
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 1: Then when you actually can stand on the mountaintop and

657
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:29,279
Speaker 1: see the whole road and talk about it in a

658
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:33,479
Speaker 1: nice concise information chunks like this and on a radio show,

659
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:38,960
Speaker 1: it would appear completely fantastic and completely ridiculous. And and

660
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:42,440
Speaker 1: so I empathize with you because I am also a skeptic.

661
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 1: I Actually it's so funny because when I do public events,

662
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 1: people come up to me and they get wild eyed,

663
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 1: and they have all these amazing and fantastical stories that

664
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Speaker 1: I no, are probably not true in a lot of cases,

665
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 1: but everybody assumes that I have this gapingly open mind

666
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:02,239
Speaker 1: and in fact, as weird as the things that I'm

667
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 1: saying are, I wouldn't ever want to bring something up

668
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:08,359
Speaker 1: to you guys on the show like this if it

669
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Speaker 1: wasn't something I've independently heard from four or five different

670
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Speaker 1: insiders who have proven to me that they worked at

671
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:19,759
Speaker 1: very highly classified levels for the military industrial complex. In

672
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 1: other words, I've seen the documents. I've confirmed that they

673
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:28,680
Speaker 1: did serve in the military. I've confirmed I've seen pictures

674
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 1: of them with you know, very significant governmental figures in

675
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 1: certain cases, there's no doubt in my mind. And you

676
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:41,280
Speaker 1: when you start to have ten, fifteen, twenty different people

677
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:43,880
Speaker 1: that you can talk to who all have similar stories,

678
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:46,759
Speaker 1: and then when you're talking to one of them, uh,

679
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:49,440
Speaker 1: it's interesting. I just brought my wife in on a

680
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:52,960
Speaker 1: call the other day with one of my old insiders

681
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:55,400
Speaker 1: who hadn't spoken to in a while, who we call

682
00:43:55,560 --> 00:44:00,200
Speaker 1: Jacob in my book Essential Mysteries, and we actually ended

683
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 1: up talking to him for five hours. And the scope

684
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:08,799
Speaker 1: of the conversation, the level at which Jacob and I talk,

685
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:13,279
Speaker 1: the speed with which information comes out, the complexity of

686
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 1: the information, how interlocking it is, how amazingly deep and complex.

687
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:22,120
Speaker 1: It is. It's impossible that somebody could make this up

688
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:27,239
Speaker 1: as performance art. It's literally impossible. So we have had

689
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 1: several different folks who independently had the same code names

690
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:35,239
Speaker 1: for these programs. They were aware that this ship is

691
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 1: down there, they've actually put their hands on it, they've

692
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:42,520
Speaker 1: seen the inscriptions, they've gone inside, they've been down in Antarctica.

693
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:46,080
Speaker 1: They've talked about how they got there, they've talked about

694
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Speaker 1: the protocols, the procedures, and there's just so many things

695
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:53,719
Speaker 1: that they say that overlap with each other without them

696
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:56,680
Speaker 1: knowing what each other actually said. To me that, as

697
00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 1: I've said before, either I'm the victim of the greatest

698
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 1: most assicated disinformation campaign or history. But this is actually true.

699
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 1: This is very that's very well put, and we we

700
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 1: want to thank you so much for your time, David,

701
00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 1: but we we feel like there's still just just a

702
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:17,840
Speaker 1: few questions. We it's weird met that Matt and I

703
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:19,880
Speaker 1: were talking about this before we got on air, and

704
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:22,400
Speaker 1: we we were thinking, there's no way that we're going

705
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:26,160
Speaker 1: to get to all of this stuff or to give it,

706
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 1: you know, give it anything more than a sort of

707
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:36,440
Speaker 1: broad uh, scrutiny or abroad introduction for because many people

708
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:40,279
Speaker 1: will have been somewhat familiar with these concepts on a

709
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 1: surface level and hopefully they'll want to go see Above Majestic,

710
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:47,480
Speaker 1: right right. Uh, that's that's one of the questions that

711
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 1: we wanted to end on today. It's it's sort of

712
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 1: a two part question. Uh. The first is, Um, what

713
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Speaker 1: what has inspired you to create Above Majestic? And what

714
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:07,040
Speaker 1: do you hope the audience, including our audience, uh, learns

715
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Speaker 1: from it? What what changes after they have after they

716
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:15,759
Speaker 1: have watched the work? Well, again, we're you guys are

717
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:23,560
Speaker 1: double clicking on something that has references How how much

718
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:26,560
Speaker 1: of a cosmic download of of plate spinning do you

719
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:28,040
Speaker 1: want me to do? And how many plates do you

720
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:31,560
Speaker 1: want spinning? Or you've had enough in you you say, yeah,

721
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:36,400
Speaker 1: I'm full, I gotta go now, I guess thanks fuddy. Well,

722
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:40,320
Speaker 1: so we didn't really start to get into the topics

723
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Speaker 1: that Above Majestic covers yet in our interview here, and

724
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:48,000
Speaker 1: that would be the central glue that holds the whole

725
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:52,320
Speaker 1: film together. Is this idea of a secret space program

726
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:55,279
Speaker 1: or a secret NASA and how long this has been

727
00:46:55,320 --> 00:47:00,680
Speaker 1: going on for Um? And this is another area in which,

728
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:03,640
Speaker 1: like many of the things we've been talking about, it

729
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:10,680
Speaker 1: does require a very flexible mind to properly appreciate what's

730
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:13,760
Speaker 1: going on now. And I will say this, even if

731
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 1: a person is a skeptic and they are inclined to

732
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:21,279
Speaker 1: think that this stuff is not true, there is a

733
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Speaker 1: pretty extraordinary learning curve just to familiarize yourself with what

734
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Speaker 1: the insiders are saying is really going on. In other words,

735
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Speaker 1: if you wanted to debunk this, if you want to

736
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:39,320
Speaker 1: discredit this without just making blanket generalizations, which is usually

737
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:42,120
Speaker 1: what they do, where they will attack the character of

738
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:45,480
Speaker 1: the speaker like myself, and by making some kind of

739
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:49,839
Speaker 1: rude character assault, they feel that they're invalidating all this

740
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:53,760
Speaker 1: hardcore evidence. But if you actually wanted to go beyond

741
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:57,160
Speaker 1: that and try to take a legitimate skeptical inquiry of

742
00:47:57,160 --> 00:47:59,680
Speaker 1: the data, first you have to become aware of what

743
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:03,000
Speaker 1: the day it is. And that learning curve has taken

744
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:07,279
Speaker 1: me years, and this is with multiple insiders who I

745
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:10,360
Speaker 1: would speak to sometimes two hours a week for years

746
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:13,799
Speaker 1: on on end, and every single conversation I'm learning all

747
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:16,839
Speaker 1: this stuff that I didn't hear before. So I would

748
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:19,279
Speaker 1: say the first step to understanding what's going on is

749
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:24,040
Speaker 1: that it is vastly, vastly, vastly complex. It's so much

750
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:28,120
Speaker 1: more complex than people could even imagine that it's very,

751
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:32,000
Speaker 1: very tough to give people a sense of how much

752
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:34,440
Speaker 1: they've been lied to, because that in and of itself

753
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:38,560
Speaker 1: is a huge violation. We have been given a construct

754
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:42,840
Speaker 1: of reality. We believe that we understand reality when the

755
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:48,600
Speaker 1: actual greater reality around us is vastly larger. So if

756
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 1: you go back now, and I would say probably most

757
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 1: of your listeners could accept, at least on principle, that

758
00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:59,040
Speaker 1: the Roswell Crash may have actually been some kind of

759
00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:03,600
Speaker 1: exeterrestrial ants craft. That the evidence for this is irrefutable.

760
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:06,960
Speaker 1: There's you know, our former native astronaut Dr. Edgar Mitchell

761
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:12,600
Speaker 1: personally interviewed over seventy different witnesses to the Roswell crash.

762
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:16,319
Speaker 1: Who saw this thing, who saw the bodies, who saw

763
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Speaker 1: it being hauled onto low Boys and and and and

764
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:22,440
Speaker 1: you know, driven to Right Patterson Air Force Space, The

765
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:24,920
Speaker 1: people who checked it into Right Patterson, the people who

766
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Speaker 1: saw it in the hangar, the people who saw the

767
00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 1: bodies inside these tubes filled with blue liquid. I mean

768
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Speaker 1: it's it goes on and on and on. So let's

769
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Speaker 1: just say, as stage one of our philosophical premise, we're building,

770
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:44,000
Speaker 1: Roswell really happened. Okay, Roswell was seven, that's seventy one

771
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:47,879
Speaker 1: years ago. So if we are then saying that our

772
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:55,000
Speaker 1: military industrial complex got access to fully operational hardware that

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Speaker 1: could be used to traverse our galaxy, and they had

774
00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:03,040
Speaker 1: this seventy years ago, don't you think maybe they figured

775
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:06,160
Speaker 1: out how to build it, how to get it working again,

776
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:08,720
Speaker 1: how to jump start the car, jump start the engine,

777
00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:14,840
Speaker 1: and even back to we have Colonel Philip Corso, a

778
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:19,000
Speaker 1: witness who came forward and said that many technologies that

779
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Speaker 1: we have developed came from the Roswell crash, and he

780
00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:27,800
Speaker 1: mentioned fiber optic cables, he mentioned computer chips because remember

781
00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:32,000
Speaker 1: we go from vacuum tubes where like the Univac computer.

782
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:34,920
Speaker 1: The reason why the word bug is used right is

783
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:37,040
Speaker 1: one insect got inside that thing and it broke the

784
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:40,520
Speaker 1: whole computer because it's little body hit the glass on

785
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Speaker 1: one of these vacuum tubes and it melts at the glass,

786
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Speaker 1: and then they have to go through this massive basketball's

787
00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:50,680
Speaker 1: court sized room of vacuum tubes to find which one

788
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:53,759
Speaker 1: got the bug, and then all of a sudden we

789
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:58,800
Speaker 1: get solid state transistors from Motorola, and then very shortly

790
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Speaker 1: thereafter we start getting computer chips where the transistors are

791
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:05,120
Speaker 1: printed under a way from silicon. Now what's so crazy

792
00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:08,439
Speaker 1: is that when Corso came out with the fact that

793
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Speaker 1: it wasn't just you know, fiber optics and computer chips,

794
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:16,720
Speaker 1: it's also led lights, it's lasers, it's delcro, it's kevlar.

795
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:22,080
Speaker 1: And he says this in I had already gotten the

796
00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:26,680
Speaker 1: exact same information and the exact same pieces of technology

797
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:30,359
Speaker 1: disclosed to me that they came from Roswell a year

798
00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:34,120
Speaker 1: before from an insider I met at a UFO conference.

799
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Speaker 1: And then even before that, a buddy that I had

800
00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:42,439
Speaker 1: in college had gotten this from his physics professor who

801
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:47,000
Speaker 1: was the head of the department in n same information again,

802
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:50,319
Speaker 1: and then it comes out in a book five years after,

803
00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:54,360
Speaker 1: four years after I first hear about it. So to me,

804
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:58,560
Speaker 1: the concept that Roswell really happened as irrefutable because I've

805
00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:02,120
Speaker 1: been sitting on this knowledge of computer chips, led lights,

806
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:05,080
Speaker 1: infrared night vision, all this stuff being reverse engineered from

807
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:08,360
Speaker 1: extrescial technology I've had this for years, and then it

808
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:11,680
Speaker 1: comes out from a new witness. Well, then the questions

809
00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:14,560
Speaker 1: I start asking this is again back in nine as well,

810
00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:19,239
Speaker 1: Oh my god, if they have interstellar craft seventy years ago,

811
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:22,200
Speaker 1: what are they doing with it? Where are they going?

812
00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:27,440
Speaker 1: And obviously now the idea of NASA Apolo missions to

813
00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:31,320
Speaker 1: the movie, it's it's a laughable joke. They're they're way,

814
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:34,839
Speaker 1: way way beyond that. So now you have to kind

815
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:37,359
Speaker 1: of double click on that and say, well, my god,

816
00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:40,799
Speaker 1: if they've had these craft, if they can build them,

817
00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:42,960
Speaker 1: if they can fly out of our atmosphere and flash

818
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:46,759
Speaker 1: the Solar system, flash of the galaxy, what haven't they done?

819
00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:50,600
Speaker 1: How many bases have they built? How many locations do

820
00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:53,880
Speaker 1: they have where there are people working. Then you start

821
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:57,680
Speaker 1: hearing from insiders like Pete Peterson, who actually worked with

822
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Speaker 1: the Reggae administration. They called him Doctor Do because he

823
00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:04,560
Speaker 1: was the leading expert on classified technology for the Reagan administration,

824
00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:08,080
Speaker 1: and he came forward to me in two thousand nine.

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00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:13,920
Speaker 1: Peterson is saying, yeah, we've had Americans all over the galaxy.

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Speaker 1: There's like thirty five different bases we have all throughout

827
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Speaker 1: the galaxy with Americans working at them today. And he

828
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:24,160
Speaker 1: talked about how in the nineteen fifties they did this

829
00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:27,680
Speaker 1: thing called the brain Drain, mostly from third world countries,

830
00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:30,680
Speaker 1: a lot of people from Brazil uh. And what they

831
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Speaker 1: did is they recruited millions and millions of people. They

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Speaker 1: estimate something like fifty five to sixty five million people

833
00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:41,480
Speaker 1: that were brought out in the nineteen fifties from a

834
00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:43,920
Speaker 1: lot of They were very the claim of the crop,

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Speaker 1: you know, the most educated, the most intelligent, the most

836
00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:50,960
Speaker 1: savvy technology experts. They brought them out into this world

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Speaker 1: that they were building in space, and they've never come back,

838
00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:57,279
Speaker 1: and they have a mandatory breeding program, they have to

839
00:53:57,320 --> 00:54:01,040
Speaker 1: have children, and they live a very gemented life. And

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00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:03,719
Speaker 1: most of these people have been told that the Earth

841
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:06,080
Speaker 1: was destroyed in the nuclear war in the nineteen eighties,

842
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:09,799
Speaker 1: so they don't even think they can come home. And

843
00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:13,640
Speaker 1: so there's literally what rich Dolan is called a breakaway civilization.

844
00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:17,400
Speaker 1: There's a whole separate world that's going on out in space,

845
00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:19,960
Speaker 1: and they are not allowed to have any contact with us,

846
00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:22,439
Speaker 1: and we are not allowed to have any contact with them.

847
00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:26,480
Speaker 1: And this is just some of the amazing stuff that

848
00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:28,640
Speaker 1: we get into and above majestic. So it is a

849
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:32,319
Speaker 1: a film really about the secret space program, which has

850
00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:35,400
Speaker 1: never been done before. Nobody's ever made a film like this,

851
00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:37,799
Speaker 1: and and we certainly did not expect that it was

852
00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:40,160
Speaker 1: going to debut at number one on Apple and Amazon.

853
00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:44,560
Speaker 1: But I think that shows how amazing the demand is

854
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:46,720
Speaker 1: for people to hear about these out of the box

855
00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:51,839
Speaker 1: alternative concepts. Oh yeah, man, it's a fascinating watch. You know,

856
00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:55,080
Speaker 1: even the most hardcore skeptics, as you say, are going

857
00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:57,640
Speaker 1: to find things in there that's it's going to blow

858
00:54:57,640 --> 00:54:59,759
Speaker 1: their mind a little bit. Um and at least I

859
00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:01,680
Speaker 1: don't see how it couldn't and at least send them

860
00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:04,240
Speaker 1: down rabbit hole after rabbit hole of their own research,

861
00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:06,239
Speaker 1: which is I think one of the best things you

862
00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:09,239
Speaker 1: can do for someone is just send them on their

863
00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:12,000
Speaker 1: own journey. Yeah. And I do want to point out

864
00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:16,759
Speaker 1: to everybody listening that in the film, several of the

865
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:20,040
Speaker 1: people that are that are speaking about this or that have,

866
00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:24,040
Speaker 1: as you said, David, come forward with their identities. They

867
00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:27,400
Speaker 1: they are people who, as you said, have been vetted

868
00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:31,600
Speaker 1: they did actually work in the military. They're not. I

869
00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:33,040
Speaker 1: guess what I'm trying to say is it's not just

870
00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:37,640
Speaker 1: some random person from across the street, not just a

871
00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:40,920
Speaker 1: blogger or something. Um, it's yeah, not at all, not

872
00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:43,439
Speaker 1: at all. Anybody who made the cut and got into

873
00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:46,360
Speaker 1: that film did so because they had proven themselves to

874
00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:49,400
Speaker 1: the authentic Wow. And and like you said, it is

875
00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:52,560
Speaker 1: available now on Apple and on Amazon. I'm looking at

876
00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:55,600
Speaker 1: it on Amazon Prime. Not right now, you can well

877
00:55:55,600 --> 00:55:57,160
Speaker 1: I won't say how much it cost because it might

878
00:55:57,239 --> 00:56:00,480
Speaker 1: change when you're hearing this or whatever, but but it's

879
00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:04,120
Speaker 1: available right now as this is being recorded. Well. And

880
00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:07,040
Speaker 1: what's also amazing is that it started out as only

881
00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:09,960
Speaker 1: a purchase where you have to actually buy the movie

882
00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:13,719
Speaker 1: for four when it first debut, and now we have

883
00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:16,960
Speaker 1: it available as a rental. So if you if you

884
00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:19,240
Speaker 1: have a casual interest you just want to watch it once,

885
00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:23,880
Speaker 1: you can rent it. Um. However, buying it does include

886
00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:28,560
Speaker 1: a treasure trove of special features that I'm speaking in

887
00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:31,160
Speaker 1: where this kind of level of conversation we've been having

888
00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:34,440
Speaker 1: just goes on and on and on for hours. So

889
00:56:34,520 --> 00:56:37,200
Speaker 1: it's definitely worth it to get the whole thing. But yeah,

890
00:56:37,239 --> 00:56:39,080
Speaker 1: if you if you have a casual interest, you just

891
00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:41,759
Speaker 1: want to rent it, your your board and you've got

892
00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:46,560
Speaker 1: a big, big bowl of popcorn, You're probably gonna end

893
00:56:46,640 --> 00:56:50,080
Speaker 1: up eating the whole thing and have indigestion. Because this

894
00:56:50,120 --> 00:56:52,439
Speaker 1: is not a comfortable film to watch. It's a very

895
00:56:53,120 --> 00:56:57,120
Speaker 1: thought provoking and in some degrees an anxiety provoking movie.

896
00:56:57,160 --> 00:56:59,719
Speaker 1: And you know, if I could go back and do

897
00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:02,160
Speaker 1: any thing differently based on some of the feedback we've had,

898
00:57:02,200 --> 00:57:05,359
Speaker 1: I would just say, people, yeah, we we kind of

899
00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:08,520
Speaker 1: break the shell of the consensus reality. It is a

900
00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:11,959
Speaker 1: little shocking, it is a little disturbing, but the good

901
00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:15,880
Speaker 1: part is that this stuff is true. Even if maybe

902
00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:18,800
Speaker 1: certain aspects of what we think we know turn out

903
00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:22,840
Speaker 1: to be incorrect or need to be modified somehow, the

904
00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:28,600
Speaker 1: overall investigation is extremely sound. And the real spring loaded

905
00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:33,960
Speaker 1: fascinating thing for humanity is that once this stuff is declassified,

906
00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:38,120
Speaker 1: we immediately go into a star trek reality. We will

907
00:57:38,160 --> 00:57:42,320
Speaker 1: be able to visit other planets, We will be meeting extraterrestrials,

908
00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:46,440
Speaker 1: we will be working on spaceships. There's an extraordinary amount

909
00:57:46,600 --> 00:57:50,840
Speaker 1: of extraterrestrial ancient ruins that they simply don't have enough

910
00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:55,840
Speaker 1: people to explore right now. So understand that the amount

911
00:57:55,960 --> 00:58:01,120
Speaker 1: of archaeology that has been found because our solar system

912
00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:03,760
Speaker 1: is actually in a very popular part of our galaxy,

913
00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:08,280
Speaker 1: right next to a big stargate that goes to other galaxies.

914
00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:11,680
Speaker 1: It's something I talked about in ascension Mysteries. There is

915
00:58:11,720 --> 00:58:15,400
Speaker 1: good NASA science that proves that it's there. Okay, so

916
00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:19,840
Speaker 1: we are a very heavily trafficked solar system. There's lots

917
00:58:19,840 --> 00:58:23,280
Speaker 1: and lots of civilizations that have come and gone from here,

918
00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:27,440
Speaker 1: going back more than two billion years. So as a result,

919
00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:31,880
Speaker 1: there's an incredible amount of archaeology that needs to be done.

920
00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:38,240
Speaker 1: There's entire cities, entire ruined basis that have never really

921
00:58:38,280 --> 00:58:46,320
Speaker 1: been explored, that have unbelievable significance in terms of archaeology.

922
00:58:46,360 --> 00:58:51,720
Speaker 1: I mean absolutely utterly dwarfing the discovery of King Tut's

923
00:58:51,760 --> 00:58:53,520
Speaker 1: tomb and all the cool stuff that was in there.

924
00:58:54,200 --> 00:58:57,720
Speaker 1: We're talking about cities that held millions of people, with

925
00:58:57,840 --> 00:59:01,880
Speaker 1: their own technology, with their own own writing, that are

926
00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:05,200
Speaker 1: literally sitting there abandoned, and we know where they are,

927
00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:08,800
Speaker 1: and we have the technology to get there, but this

928
00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:13,760
Speaker 1: secret space program doesn't have anywhere near enough staff to

929
00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:16,600
Speaker 1: go and explore them. Some of them are on the Moon.

930
00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:20,480
Speaker 1: There's a lot of them actually in the Earth. There

931
00:59:20,560 --> 00:59:22,880
Speaker 1: are plenty of them on Mars. There's plenty of them

932
00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:26,400
Speaker 1: on other moons in our solar system, the moons of Jupiter,

933
00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:30,600
Speaker 1: the moons of Saturn. They are loaded with this so

934
00:59:30,680 --> 00:59:35,520
Speaker 1: called cosmic junkyard. And this is some dumpster diving that

935
00:59:35,560 --> 00:59:38,120
Speaker 1: I would be very happy to do because you might

936
00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:41,520
Speaker 1: find dumpster treasures in there like you can't even imagine. Well,

937
00:59:41,560 --> 00:59:44,960
Speaker 1: thank you again so much for joining us and speaking

938
00:59:45,480 --> 00:59:49,760
Speaker 1: at length with us about this. It's really been our pleasure.

939
00:59:49,880 --> 00:59:53,480
Speaker 1: And you know, it just keeps our keeps our mind going,

940
00:59:53,600 --> 00:59:57,760
Speaker 1: and we definitely want to believe and want to explore

941
00:59:58,080 --> 01:00:00,840
Speaker 1: all this stuff further. Well, I appreciate at that. And

942
01:00:00,840 --> 01:00:04,080
Speaker 1: and again, this is something that you can see in

943
01:00:04,080 --> 01:00:08,520
Speaker 1: a movie. It's a nice two hour, twelve minute download

944
01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:12,520
Speaker 1: that we really put a lot of time and energy into.

945
01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:16,360
Speaker 1: It's got a lot of great graphics and effects, and

946
01:00:16,680 --> 01:00:21,000
Speaker 1: it is well worth the time invested to see. Um,

947
01:00:21,040 --> 01:00:23,960
Speaker 1: you don't have to believe that it's true, but even

948
01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:25,720
Speaker 1: if you just look at it to sci fi, it

949
01:00:25,840 --> 01:00:30,280
Speaker 1: is a very entertaining roller coaster ride. Awesome. Yeah, I

950
01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:32,160
Speaker 1: was I was going to throw in the same thing.

951
01:00:32,200 --> 01:00:36,760
Speaker 1: It's a wild ride indeed. Uh. David Wilcock again, thank

952
01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:40,960
Speaker 1: you for coming onto the show and introducing our audience

953
01:00:41,080 --> 01:00:44,560
Speaker 1: to uh some mind blowing concepts here. We do also

954
01:00:44,600 --> 01:00:46,800
Speaker 1: want to mention that if you would like to learn

955
01:00:47,080 --> 01:00:50,400
Speaker 1: more about David's work outside of Above Majestic, you can

956
01:00:50,560 --> 01:00:55,480
Speaker 1: visit his website Divine Cosmos dot com. That's correct. Thank you, guys,

957
01:00:55,480 --> 01:00:58,160
Speaker 1: I really appreciate you bringing me on awesome. All right,

958
01:00:58,320 --> 01:01:00,600
Speaker 1: thanks so much. That's all for us to day, folks.

959
01:01:00,880 --> 01:01:04,120
Speaker 1: We will be back very soon with some more deep

960
01:01:04,200 --> 01:01:07,480
Speaker 1: dives into strange stories you won't hear in the mainstream.

961
01:01:07,520 --> 01:01:10,240
Speaker 1: In the meantime, you can find us on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter,

962
01:01:10,600 --> 01:01:13,080
Speaker 1: and you can write us an email directly. We are

963
01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:35,880
Speaker 1: conspiracy at how stuff Works dot com.