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Speaker 1: In today's episode Ticket of the Draft Podcast, we have

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Speaker 1: something near and dear to my heart, and that's the

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Speaker 1: udfas man which one of these guys are going to

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Speaker 1: be the commanders of tomorrow. I can't wait to tell

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Speaker 1: you about each and every one of them.

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Speaker 2: It all starts right now. Welcome to the Tickets Draft Podcast.

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Speaker 1: I'm Logan Paulson here with Jess Guy, Jason and as

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Speaker 1: Northwest Stadium, and Jason Man, what's here. We've done the draft,

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Speaker 1: We've gone through all of our stuff, but we haven't

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Speaker 1: gone through all of our stuff because we still have

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Speaker 1: the undrafted free agents to talk about and discuss. And

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Speaker 1: initially when I first started watching, I was like, man,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, this group doesn't seem like it's as

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Speaker 1: exciting as the group was last year. You know, you

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Speaker 1: got Tyler Owens, you got coolson Yankov, guys that were

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Speaker 1: like Ben Nickel, guys with these crazy, freaky athletic profiles.

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Speaker 1: But the more that I've gone through this, the more

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Speaker 1: guys I've watched, the more I've been impressed with, I'd

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Speaker 1: say seventy five percent of the free agent class, eighty

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Speaker 1: percent of the free agent class as guys that I

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Speaker 1: think have a shot to make waves and maybe make

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Speaker 2: We'll see.

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Speaker 1: Obviously a lot of these guys are developmental and it's

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Speaker 1: it's becoming a more and more compelling group the more

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, man, you love to get right into it, right.

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Speaker 3: We're talking about udfa's today. It's our last episode, man,

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Speaker 3: it is our last episode, last episode of the season.

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Speaker 3: So it's sad, little tier. But yeah, no, what you're

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Speaker 3: saying is exactly right. When you first look at these

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Speaker 3: far as like I don't I don't want to say talent,

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Speaker 1: Like there was some freaky dude like Tyler Tyler Owens,

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Speaker 1: like Coolson Yankov for his size, heyway, he had hit

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Speaker 1: like a ten Ris ben Nicol. We talked about him

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Speaker 1: it just there was a it was a different kind

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Speaker 1: reflection of the draft class. But this group, again on paper,

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Speaker 2: And I'm excited to talk about a little bit. Yeah. Absolutely. Also,

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Speaker 3: I think it's a it speaks to the draft last

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Speaker 3: So last year there were so many quarterbacks that came

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Speaker 2: Yeah. No, I think that's exactly right. And I think

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Speaker 1: Up Like the way I look at Udfa's, I look

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Speaker 3: I really enjoy doing this podcast with you, like this

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Speaker 3: specific episode, because you're an undrafted free agent.

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Speaker 2: Drafted free agent, so these.

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Speaker 3: Guys, as you said last week, I have a special

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Speaker 3: before we get into this, can you like give me

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Speaker 3: what was that like? And then once you were here

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: So I think the thing that I would kind of

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Speaker 1: to so you know, the draft ended in twenty ten

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Speaker 3: Right, because most teams keep three tight ends right.

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Speaker 3: Can I also like Chris Cooley and Fred Davis, they

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Speaker 1: And both those guys are like really tremendous football players.

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Speaker 1: Is I just treated it like it was a job,

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Speaker 1: is making this football team. So how quickly can I

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Speaker 1: Lee Vickers didn't have a great preseason. He's really good

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Speaker 1: kind of fell the a little lucky, little good. But

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Speaker 3: Be a little lucky, be a little good, do the most.

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Speaker 3: I love I love your NFL story about like, seriously,

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Speaker 3: he does like to go fast. He gets off the

437
00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:49,679
Speaker 3: line really quick. He's six three, two ninety five and

438
00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:52,960
Speaker 3: twenty twenty four yearl was an All Big twelve honorable mention.

439
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Speaker 2: Tell me about him.

440
00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:56,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, So he's a guy that reminds me of they

441
00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:59,200
Speaker 1: kind of a type at defensive tackle specifically, like they

442
00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:01,680
Speaker 1: like guys that are kind of saw it off and

443
00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:04,480
Speaker 1: just really explosive like Powell I think was.

444
00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:07,080
Speaker 2: His name from last year. Yeah, very explosively. And he's

445
00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:09,040
Speaker 2: still he's still in the building. He's still in the roster.

446
00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:10,720
Speaker 1: And so you know, like I went to the Beast

447
00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:12,600
Speaker 1: and looked up high So he's listed at sixty three.

448
00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:14,960
Speaker 1: He's actually six to one and like right around no

449
00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:16,600
Speaker 1: School I pulled up for this.

450
00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:17,200
Speaker 2: Oh yeah yeah.

451
00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:18,840
Speaker 1: But I'm saying like so, I'm just saying, like the

452
00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:24,679
Speaker 1: he's he's a short squatty, really explosive guy through the hips,

453
00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:26,399
Speaker 1: and he's got long arms, Like yeah, and I know

454
00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:27,800
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say that about a lot of guys, but

455
00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:30,560
Speaker 1: they do a good job of finding guys that have trade.

456
00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:32,000
Speaker 1: So like for a guy who's six's one, he's got

457
00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:34,719
Speaker 1: thirty three and a quarter inch arms, and you feel

458
00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:37,280
Speaker 1: that when you watch the film, like he explodes out

459
00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:39,560
Speaker 1: of his stance. He snaps his hands on people. You

460
00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:42,480
Speaker 1: see guys head snap back. Just with his arm length

461
00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:45,639
Speaker 1: and his explosiveness. He is built kind of like what

462
00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:48,320
Speaker 1: you assume a pastors are looks like six one five.

463
00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:51,800
Speaker 1: He is a run stopping kind of master, right, so

464
00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:54,160
Speaker 1: he knows like again we talked about the hand placement.

465
00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:56,240
Speaker 1: He can sit guards down. He knows how to play

466
00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:58,720
Speaker 1: across double teams. He knows how to like when we

467
00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:00,560
Speaker 1: get a puller, I know how to ref at the run.

468
00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:03,080
Speaker 1: He's got good feet enough to do that. As a

469
00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:06,199
Speaker 1: pass rusher. Again, he'll win with power because he's so

470
00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:08,840
Speaker 1: snappy on the initial get off. But he's not like

471
00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:11,720
Speaker 1: an elite linear athlete, like he ran a five to two.

472
00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:15,640
Speaker 1: Oh you know, like his numbers aren't great, but that

473
00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:18,879
Speaker 1: initial snap the initial hand strength, the initial like grip

474
00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:21,240
Speaker 1: and kind of rip and kind of get to an edge.

475
00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:24,520
Speaker 1: There's something there, right, And again he's not a perfect prospect.

476
00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:26,680
Speaker 1: He's not a great pass rusher. But if you're looking

477
00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:28,920
Speaker 1: for guy that, hey, we need a body in here

478
00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:31,320
Speaker 1: to like stop the run, I think his developer like

479
00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:33,679
Speaker 1: hell yeah, Like I think this is a guy that

480
00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:35,560
Speaker 1: like fits that mold.

481
00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:35,840
Speaker 2: Right.

482
00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:38,440
Speaker 1: He's like a guy that understands how to work the pads.

483
00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:39,639
Speaker 1: What I mean by work the pants to get my

484
00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:43,200
Speaker 1: hands on the pads, turn, push, pull, And I don't

485
00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:44,680
Speaker 1: know if he's ever going to be a lead pass rusher,

486
00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:47,040
Speaker 1: but he is a really good run defender. And if

487
00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:49,320
Speaker 1: you're trying to then think about this for an UDFA,

488
00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:51,200
Speaker 1: you're trying to find something that gets him on the field,

489
00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:54,200
Speaker 1: and that is his superpower. And if you can show

490
00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:55,800
Speaker 1: that to be a superpower, I think he might end

491
00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:58,320
Speaker 1: up mess around and kind of being that six to

492
00:20:58,400 --> 00:20:59,440
Speaker 1: seventh rotational guy.

493
00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:03,359
Speaker 3: All right, let's move one level back on defense and

494
00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:04,680
Speaker 3: let's do the linebackers next.

495
00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:06,560
Speaker 2: Right, I'm gonna jump around a little bit here on

496
00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:07,240
Speaker 2: the sheet.

497
00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:12,919
Speaker 3: Let's start with Cam Arnold from Boston College linebacker. I

498
00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:16,080
Speaker 3: have his team measurements here, so they could be a

499
00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:18,840
Speaker 3: little off, like you said, but six one, two nine,

500
00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:22,520
Speaker 3: he was a team captain, only played seven games, Like

501
00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:24,360
Speaker 3: this is going to be a theme that's here. There's

502
00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:27,119
Speaker 3: an injury that stopped him in twenty twenty four. In

503
00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:29,719
Speaker 3: those seven games, so he had forty tackles and an

504
00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:31,479
Speaker 3: interception of force fumble.

505
00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:32,960
Speaker 2: Here's the thing about him.

506
00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:36,320
Speaker 3: He ran a four five eight forty that's ninety one

507
00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:39,680
Speaker 3: percentile this year for linebackers, and he had a thirty

508
00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:43,320
Speaker 3: eight inch vert which is ninety three percentile. So explosive.

509
00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:46,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think he makes his home if he's

510
00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:48,120
Speaker 1: going to make the team as a special teams guy.

511
00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:49,120
Speaker 2: Like that's the vibe you get.

512
00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:51,920
Speaker 1: He's a little stiff for a modern linebacker, kind of

513
00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:53,679
Speaker 1: like the high school like I want to go downhill,

514
00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:55,359
Speaker 1: I want to hit stuff, I want to run sideline

515
00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:58,480
Speaker 1: a sideline, but moving forward when he's got a backpedal,

516
00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:01,439
Speaker 1: not great, really stiff, But I will say he does

517
00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:04,320
Speaker 1: show a good instinct for the ball, like he identifies

518
00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:05,440
Speaker 1: route concepts really well.

519
00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:06,040
Speaker 2: He communicated.

520
00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:08,800
Speaker 1: He seems like he's a very smart football player, and

521
00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:12,120
Speaker 1: he does flash quite a bit, so again he gets

522
00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:14,280
Speaker 1: stuck on Blox with something we talked about with Pooh,

523
00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:15,560
Speaker 1: remember the linebacker.

524
00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:17,040
Speaker 2: From all Yes, Like, oh, I remember, yeah, one of

525
00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:19,720
Speaker 2: his favorites. Kind of a little bit of that to him.

526
00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:22,119
Speaker 1: Not ideal length, but a guy that can run, a

527
00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:26,320
Speaker 1: guy that's physical, a guy that's smart. And I don't know,

528
00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:28,439
Speaker 1: the linebacker room seems really crowded all of a sudden

529
00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:30,639
Speaker 1: with the addition of like Caane Madrono and all that

530
00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:34,160
Speaker 1: kind of stuff. But I like them, and I think

531
00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:37,080
Speaker 1: he adds value as a teams player potentially, so interesting

532
00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:40,040
Speaker 1: kind of developmental role, kind of piece, you know what

533
00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:40,960
Speaker 1: I mean with.

534
00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:44,080
Speaker 3: These linebackers that they're bringing in, like you said special

535
00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:47,439
Speaker 3: teams and how Caine is built kind of like a

536
00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:51,800
Speaker 3: safety linebacker hybrid, Like do you think that their linebacker

537
00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:55,160
Speaker 3: is Like when we say linebacker, we think London Fletcher,

538
00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:58,040
Speaker 3: we think Bobby Wagner, like you think that traditional build,

539
00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:02,080
Speaker 3: And like this defense looks like it's moving more towards

540
00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:04,960
Speaker 3: like this hybrid. They're just calling it linebacker now and

541
00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:08,119
Speaker 3: that's great for special teams and situational things. Is that

542
00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:10,160
Speaker 3: do you feel like it's moving that way?

543
00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:11,959
Speaker 1: I think so, But I think instead of thinking of

544
00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:14,600
Speaker 1: like cam Arnold, he's a little bit different. He's like

545
00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:16,680
Speaker 1: kind of he's six foot six to one on the

546
00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:18,840
Speaker 1: BC's six foot like everyone's adding an inch or taking

547
00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:21,080
Speaker 1: away an inch. He's about two thirty so kind of

548
00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:23,680
Speaker 1: a shorter, squatty build kind of Khalie Hudson a little

549
00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:24,880
Speaker 1: bit kind of reminds.

550
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Speaker 2: Me of that.

551
00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:29,879
Speaker 1: But you know, think about your your your Dominique Campton's,

552
00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:34,120
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, your cave Madrono's, your Tyler Owens,

553
00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:36,520
Speaker 1: Like those are the body types that I think they want.

554
00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:36,960
Speaker 2: This.

555
00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:39,400
Speaker 1: The reason I say special teams is because he feels

556
00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:43,200
Speaker 1: like a hammer head special teams linebacker. Right, they could

557
00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:46,199
Speaker 1: come in in a situation and play for you on

558
00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:49,680
Speaker 1: defense if you need. But like he just screams linebacker

559
00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:51,600
Speaker 1: the way he runs the football, like how he takes on.

560
00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:54,119
Speaker 3: Blocks like more Jordan mcgeeish.

561
00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:56,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and Jordan McGee's even you know Jordan gee

562
00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:57,879
Speaker 1: sixty three, he's again.

563
00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:01,080
Speaker 3: He's bigger, yeah, Like he's very clearly linebacker.

564
00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:03,760
Speaker 2: Yes, this is this is a linebacker. Linebacker, linebacker.

565
00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:07,440
Speaker 1: And so to me, like the stiffness is a little

566
00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:10,199
Speaker 1: bit concerning, but the top end speed is exciting. The

567
00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:13,359
Speaker 1: vertical is exciting because that shows up that explosive. This

568
00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:15,840
Speaker 1: shows up and it just about now like where does

569
00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:17,720
Speaker 1: it fit? And it to me it fits right away

570
00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:18,120
Speaker 1: on teams.

571
00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:21,120
Speaker 3: All right, let's talk about another linebacker, one of your

572
00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:24,280
Speaker 3: brethren from UCLA. I'm gonna do my best to get

573
00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:25,640
Speaker 3: his name right. You can tell me if I'm wrong.

574
00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:27,040
Speaker 3: Is it Ali Kho?

575
00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:29,679
Speaker 2: I think that's right. I might look up the pronunciation.

576
00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:31,720
Speaker 3: It could be Caho, but I'm pretty sure it's Ali

577
00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:32,280
Speaker 3: ca Hoo.

578
00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:36,880
Speaker 1: Yeah Kho. He's a linebacker from UCLA. He's sixty three.

579
00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:39,040
Speaker 1: I think he's about two hundred and thirty five pounds.

580
00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:41,679
Speaker 1: He ran a four or five oh you know, so

581
00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:44,480
Speaker 1: fast forty. He's got long arms for a linebacker, you know,

582
00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:46,800
Speaker 1: like he's got thirty two and three quarters inch arms,

583
00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:49,680
Speaker 1: so like kind of fits that prototypical mold. He was

584
00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:52,160
Speaker 1: a five star recruit coming out of high school, went

585
00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:55,320
Speaker 1: to Alabama and transferred UCLA. He was a tough guy

586
00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:58,480
Speaker 1: to watch because he's in this defense with Caane Drona.

587
00:24:58,520 --> 00:24:59,879
Speaker 2: We talked about what a good athlete is.

588
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,280
Speaker 1: He's in the defense with Swassenger, the guy that went

589
00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:07,719
Speaker 1: thirty third overall to Cleveland and Olidasion, and those guys

590
00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:11,959
Speaker 1: like just pop off the screen from like a movement

591
00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:14,960
Speaker 1: standpoint and a physicality standpoint. So he's kind of the

592
00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:17,719
Speaker 1: fourth guy, you know, the fourth element and even their

593
00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:19,760
Speaker 1: defensive line. At some guys that got drafted this year,

594
00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:22,000
Speaker 1: the nose guard got drafted, the five technique got drafted.

595
00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:23,600
Speaker 1: So you say that had a bunch of guys come

596
00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:25,600
Speaker 1: off the field. So he was kind of behind those

597
00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:27,640
Speaker 1: guys in terms of rotation. So there'd be games where

598
00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:30,879
Speaker 1: he wouldn't play at all, he'd play fifteen snaps. And

599
00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:33,680
Speaker 1: so what I do see as a guy that has

600
00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:38,240
Speaker 1: the length and the athleticism to play linebacker the NFL level,

601
00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:40,560
Speaker 1: he hasn't done it at college yet. He hasn't really

602
00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:43,679
Speaker 1: found his home yet, And I think this feels like

603
00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:45,040
Speaker 1: an upside swing, right.

604
00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:47,200
Speaker 2: Ken Norton Junior recruited him.

605
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Speaker 1: Ken Norton Junior knows him, and that relationship is obviously

606
00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:53,520
Speaker 1: one of the reasons he's here. But the length, the size,

607
00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:55,480
Speaker 1: that's all there. You see him when he goes downhill

608
00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:58,359
Speaker 1: to like take on blocks and stuff. He's instinctive downhill.

609
00:25:58,400 --> 00:25:59,879
Speaker 1: He's still got to work on kind of keeping his

610
00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:01,720
Speaker 1: and using his length of keeping.

611
00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:03,400
Speaker 2: His leverage coverage.

612
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:04,600
Speaker 1: Just got a little bit of work to do, but

613
00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:06,840
Speaker 1: it makes sense because he hasn't played a lot, but

614
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:08,720
Speaker 1: the athlete is there, and so this is one of

615
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:11,280
Speaker 1: those ones that feels like, if I was betting on

616
00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:13,880
Speaker 1: a guy to make a practice squad, it may be him,

617
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:16,879
Speaker 1: right because as much as I like cam Arnold's film,

618
00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:21,879
Speaker 1: I think the ceiling for Ali is significantly higher just

619
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:24,440
Speaker 1: because just from a measurement standpoint and a movement standpoint.

620
00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:26,359
Speaker 1: So that's the one I would kind of point to

621
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:27,600
Speaker 1: and say, like, if there's a guy that's going to

622
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:30,720
Speaker 1: develop in the mold of linebacker that they seem to

623
00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:34,560
Speaker 1: be more comfortable with. It's taller, longer, a little bit leaner,

624
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:37,359
Speaker 1: but guys that can run. He can run, and then

625
00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:40,480
Speaker 1: they kind of develop that skill set to fit the defense.

626
00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:42,080
Speaker 2: And here's the thing with him.

627
00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:44,600
Speaker 3: He sounds like a commander in the sense that his

628
00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:47,400
Speaker 3: journey to the NFL was not easy. Like you said,

629
00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:49,360
Speaker 3: he was at Alabama, could not find a home there

630
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:53,280
Speaker 3: for three seasons, but was a special team's demon there.

631
00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:54,760
Speaker 3: So what is that?

632
00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:56,520
Speaker 2: How does that speak to being a.

633
00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:59,200
Speaker 3: Commander like staying ready, Like even when he gets in

634
00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:01,840
Speaker 3: the games on special teams, he wants to be a starter.

635
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,960
Speaker 3: I'm sure being a five star recruit, he probably thought

636
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:06,719
Speaker 3: he was coming in and you'd get playing time and

637
00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 3: he doesn't. But he's ready and he's set to go

638
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:11,879
Speaker 3: on special teams, not quitting, not giving up. Goes to UCLA,

639
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:15,719
Speaker 3: does the same sort of thing. So like the mentality, right,

640
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:19,119
Speaker 3: I love football. I'm a grinder. I can be on

641
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:21,560
Speaker 3: the sideline waiting my turn, and when I get my turn,

642
00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:23,280
Speaker 3: I'm gonna flash. I'm going to do what I need

643
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:26,560
Speaker 3: to do. And those are guys that you want, right like,

644
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:29,560
Speaker 3: especially when they have what you were talking about, the measurables,

645
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:32,600
Speaker 3: and there are things that are there that like if

646
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 3: we get you more time, if we train you up,

647
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:36,720
Speaker 3: coach you up a little bit more, we might have

648
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:38,480
Speaker 3: something special here. It might be a diamond and rough

649
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:40,280
Speaker 3: that's what you're looking for with you definitely.

650
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:41,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, then that's exactly right, And it feels like a

651
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:43,560
Speaker 1: perfect guy to take a swing on. And so that's

652
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:45,800
Speaker 1: why not a lot of production, not a lot of

653
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:48,760
Speaker 1: games played, but the relationship with Ken Norton Junior, like

654
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:50,560
Speaker 1: I empathize with that, I had a relationship with my

655
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:52,400
Speaker 1: college to college I had and coach he was here,

656
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:54,840
Speaker 1: And if there's someone in the building who trusts you,

657
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:56,960
Speaker 1: you're going to get an opportunity. Yeah, And whether it's

658
00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 1: teams or defense, Like, he's an interesting guy to keep

659
00:27:59,520 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 1: an eye on for.

660
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:02,520
Speaker 3: All Right, moving back one more level in the defense,

661
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:04,199
Speaker 3: We're going to go to the safety zet are on

662
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:07,960
Speaker 3: the list here. Let's start with Trey Rucker. Trey Rucker,

663
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 3: the safety out of Oklahoma State. I have him a

664
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:12,200
Speaker 3: six foot maybe he's going to be five.

665
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:14,359
Speaker 2: Eleven, yeah, one.

666
00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:18,879
Speaker 3: In twenty and twenty four last season, he had eighty

667
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:21,920
Speaker 3: four tackles, fifty four of them were solo, which led

668
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:25,359
Speaker 3: the team for a safety two interceptions. He had a

669
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:29,640
Speaker 3: game versus Arkansas where he had seventeen tackles. Seventeen tackles

670
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:31,959
Speaker 3: in one game. That was a record for the school

671
00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:33,200
Speaker 3: for a single game.

672
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:34,919
Speaker 1: So, I mean, you kind of took the words right

673
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:36,480
Speaker 1: out of my mouth. Like when you watch the film,

674
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:39,400
Speaker 1: he is an excellent tackler, and I mean excellent in

675
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 1: the sense that like not only is he very confident

676
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 1: in the collision portion of the tackle, but he takes

677
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:46,840
Speaker 1: really good angles and he's very urgent to the tackle.

678
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 1: He reminds me a little bit of like Mustafa from

679
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:52,680
Speaker 1: Wake Forest from last year, very downhill as a safety,

680
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:55,200
Speaker 1: understands where to fit and is not afraid to make

681
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 1: the tackle. And to me, of all the guys I watched,

682
00:28:58,080 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 1: this is going to sound crazy, was probably the most

683
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:03,400
Speaker 1: Mandare commander in terms of just the tackle, the urgency

684
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 1: to get downhill. You know, not the best thing coverage,

685
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 1: not the best athlete, but when I think of what

686
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:11,479
Speaker 1: they value its safety and what they value in the defense,

687
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 1: it's tackling, and this guy does it probably better than

688
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:16,719
Speaker 1: anybody in the draft class.

689
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:19,320
Speaker 3: I mean, this guy sounds like he's built for special teams.

690
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 3: So the way that we do kickoffs now, the good

691
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:24,360
Speaker 3: angles to good tackling put them one there. Yeah right,

692
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:26,640
Speaker 3: and he could he could be very solid for you.

693
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 3: I think that's how he's going to make this team

694
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:31,200
Speaker 3: is just being a demon on the kickoffs.

695
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:33,480
Speaker 1: And it definitely shows up with when you watch him

696
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 1: in the defense, like again, seventeen tackles against Arkansas, like

697
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:41,280
Speaker 1: he's a man. I like watching defensive players who show

698
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:45,920
Speaker 1: a tremendous urgency to tackle the ball. Carrier and he's

699
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:49,080
Speaker 1: running by guys on his own team like he's I

700
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:51,520
Speaker 1: like him a lot, you know, again, like is the

701
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 1: athletic ceiling there? I have no idea he didn't run

702
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 1: a forty like we look, try to look it up.

703
00:29:56,080 --> 00:30:00,160
Speaker 1: Not there, But the energy, the jews, the tackling. I

704
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 1: really really like the player.

705
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:04,960
Speaker 3: The next safety on the list is also I think

706
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 3: one of your favorites on this list with guys I

707
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:14,600
Speaker 3: like evaluating is Robert McDaniel Bobby mcdee, the safety from

708
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 3: Jackson State. Fred talks a lot about him on the

709
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:20,560
Speaker 3: Command Center podcast that's going to come out tomorrow. We

710
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 3: go through some of these guys, but I want you

711
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:28,280
Speaker 3: to tell me why you like him so much. He's interesting,

712
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:29,320
Speaker 3: he's interesting.

713
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:29,560
Speaker 2: Interesting guy.

714
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:32,320
Speaker 1: And again, like he's playing at Jackson State, so not

715
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:34,520
Speaker 1: the best level of competition. Like the game I watched

716
00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:37,160
Speaker 1: was against Alabama State, you know, so Alabama State they

717
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 1: run like kind of what I would have kind to

718
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:40,200
Speaker 1: like a high school offense.

719
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 2: And so.

720
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:45,280
Speaker 1: He's safety by trade, but he plays like the star

721
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 1: overhang player. So there's times where he's like guarding a

722
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 1: receiver and then in the same series, depending on the

723
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 1: front he's like lined up over the tight end, like

724
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:57,520
Speaker 1: taking on pulling tackles and like chinning offensive linemen and

725
00:30:57,600 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 1: using and the thing is like some guys really shy

726
00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:01,960
Speaker 1: away from that safeties and stuff, but he uses his

727
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 1: link so well. He's got just over thirty two in

728
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 1: j arms, So for safety, that's very good, shitting offensive

729
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 1: lineman shedding using his hands. And then I haven't seen

730
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 1: this yet, but I talked to a scout about him

731
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 1: and he was like, oh, I actually saw him play

732
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:18,400
Speaker 1: in the box like basically linebacker, which he does in

733
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 1: that system. And then he played outside corner.

734
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, this sounds like the best player when I was

735
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:24,400
Speaker 3: in my high school.

736
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 2: Yeah. I can't remember his name.

737
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:27,120
Speaker 3: I wish I could shout him out, but what he

738
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 3: would do he played running back on offense, and then

739
00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:33,240
Speaker 3: he'd switch over and he was safety corner if we

740
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:36,120
Speaker 3: were getting burnt by a wide receiver on the other team.

741
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:37,960
Speaker 3: And then every now and then he was like the

742
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 3: Michael Parson's like I'm gonna rush the passer and get

743
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 3: a sack or be a linebacker.

744
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:43,240
Speaker 2: Guess what else he was?

745
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 3: He was our kicker really, Yeah, so he just the

746
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:50,800
Speaker 3: term athlete, right, He just you're the best player by far,

747
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:54,640
Speaker 3: so we're gonna put you everywhere. And that's what this

748
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:56,959
Speaker 3: guy kind of feels like. I mean, not to that

749
00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 3: crazy high school extent, but he's just all over the place.

750
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 1: And he's interesting because he's there are some issues with

751
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 1: his game. You can tell his soul, say learning, but

752
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:07,680
Speaker 1: kind of there's times where it's like, who am I

753
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:08,280
Speaker 1: supposed to cover?

754
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:09,240
Speaker 2: Oh? This guy? You know what I mean.

755
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:10,840
Speaker 1: He's kind of working through some stuff. And again, the

756
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 1: level of competition is a big deal. But in terms

757
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 1: of like what I think they want when we talked

758
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 1: about kind of the longer, taller, more angular tweeter type

759
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:24,480
Speaker 1: positions like Caine's a good example of that. Dominic Campton

760
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 1: is a good example of that. Ben Nichols, Tyler Owens,

761
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 1: like everybody they brought in.

762
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:28,720
Speaker 2: He fits.

763
00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 1: It's like, here's your Coppyn copy of those guys. And

764
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 1: the coverage ability is excellent, right and the stuff against

765
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:38,560
Speaker 1: the run is excellent at that level of competition. Can

766
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:42,240
Speaker 1: he grow and can he develop that at this level?

767
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:45,560
Speaker 1: I think will be really interesting. So that's that's something

768
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:49,600
Speaker 1: that I think is is compelling about him.

769
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:55,280
Speaker 3: All right, let's move to the outside corners Carlin Vigers

770
00:32:55,320 --> 00:33:00,320
Speaker 3: will start their cornerback from Louisiana Row.

771
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, so Louisiana in Roe.

772
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 1: And he looks apart man of like a Dan Quinn

773
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 1: traditional corner. He's got kind of looks a little bit

774
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 1: like Richard Sherman. He's got the dreads, you know, he's

775
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 1: got Anywhere's number one. He's sixty too, hes two hundred pounds.

776
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 1: They ran and the game I watched was them versus Texas,

777
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 1: and so obviously there's Isaiah Bond, There's Matthew Golden. You know,

778
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:24,480
Speaker 1: there's Gunner Helm the tight end, and he in cover

779
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 1: three just has a really good feel for keeping things

780
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 1: in front of him, reading out concepts and man coverage.

781
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 1: You feel his size, you feel his strength, you feel

782
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 1: his length. Yeah, I mean, he looked like an NFL ballplayer.

783
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 1: And so after watching that, I was a little surprised

784
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 1: that he wasn't drafted. But apparently that was one of

785
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 1: his better games from the year. And so sometimes when

786
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 1: you watch a guy's better game, you tend to have

787
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 1: an inflated perspective of what he can be. With the

788
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:52,560
Speaker 1: Udia FANM fine with that because ultimately, like that's what

789
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 1: he should be right, he should like that's the best

790
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:56,560
Speaker 1: version of what he can be. And so I think

791
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:58,760
Speaker 1: there's some stuff in terms of urgency with you know,

792
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:01,959
Speaker 1: getting the tackles, physicality. In terms of tackling, I think

793
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 1: he can do it. But a guy that I was

794
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 1: really impressed with. Obviously, the two safeties are guys that

795
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:10,719
Speaker 1: I really really like. But in terms of guys that

796
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:14,239
Speaker 1: could potentially make an impact this year, he's got to

797
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:15,799
Speaker 1: be on the short list. Like again, I like the

798
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:17,840
Speaker 1: play style of Trey Rucker. I like the play style

799
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:20,880
Speaker 1: of Robert McDaniel. I like the flexibility that they bring.

800
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:24,920
Speaker 1: But Carlyn Viggers feels like the guy that has the

801
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 1: best shot to make the team in year one, whereas

802
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 1: those other guys feel a little bit more developmental.

803
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:34,759
Speaker 3: All right, And now to the other corner. Fentral Cyprus

804
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:39,279
Speaker 3: cornerback from Florida State. Going back to that theme. An

805
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:42,240
Speaker 3: injury in twenty twenty four, he only played nine games.

806
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:46,240
Speaker 3: In those nine games, twenty seven tackles, five pass breakups.

807
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 3: But here is what I want to tell you about him.

808
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:53,319
Speaker 3: Santana Moss actually led me onto this in twenty twenty two.

809
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 3: He was at Virginia, which he had thirteen pass breakups

810
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 3: in twenty twenty two. In twenty twenty three he was

811
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:03,920
Speaker 3: at Florida State. Maybe in Florida State seven pass breakups

812
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 3: in the nine games that he played last year five

813
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 3: pass breakupst Why do you keep throwing the ball to

814
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:13,120
Speaker 3: this indeed? Right like he is there to make plays

815
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 3: on the ball. Now, only one interception in this college

816
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:18,480
Speaker 3: clear career. So he's not getting the ball, he's not

817
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:21,879
Speaker 3: taking it away. Maybe he just doesn't have that as

818
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:23,919
Speaker 3: Fred says, you either have it or you don't. Maybe

819
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:27,440
Speaker 3: he just doesn't have it. But he's right there, he's

820
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 3: making plays on the ball.

821
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think he's really interesting because of the

822
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:33,160
Speaker 1: athletic profile. He's six foot one hundred and eighty two pounds.

823
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:36,840
Speaker 1: You're in a four to four to three thirty eight

824
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:40,759
Speaker 1: in vertical ten to three broad six' eight four to three.

825
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 1: Cone that's, excellent and so you're looking at a plus.

826
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:46,879
Speaker 1: Athlete he's a six year football. Player jason just talked

827
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:50,239
Speaker 1: about his. Production you feel his, length you feel his

828
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:55,839
Speaker 1: ability to match. Concepts, again he plays At Florida. State

829
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 1: they play a ton a ton of man, coverage which

830
00:35:57,680 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 1: to me is extremely important to my.

831
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:00,279
Speaker 2: Evaluation you, know.

832
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:01,759
Speaker 1: We talked about that on Our ticket to The draft

833
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 1: episode With fred where we did, cornerbacks LIKE i want

834
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:06,360
Speaker 1: corners who can play man and can, tackle AND i

835
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:08,279
Speaker 1: think he does those things at an extremely high. LEVEL

836
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 1: i Think Carlin viggers maybe has a slightly higher, ceiling

837
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 1: but in terms of athletic, ceiling compete in toughness Like

838
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:20,719
Speaker 1: Fentral cyprus is an impressive football. Player, again the nine

839
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:22,400
Speaker 1: games is probably one of the reasons he doesn't get.

840
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 1: Drafted but both the corners are, good both the safeties are,

841
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:28,439
Speaker 1: good good football. Players and again WHEN i say, GOOD

842
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 1: i got a criticism THAT i say that too often about.

843
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 1: PLAYERS i think if you see them for what their role,

844
00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 1: Is i'm not expecting these guys to come in and

845
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 1: be starters day. One my expectation would be much. Different

846
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:42,959
Speaker 1: if you said we Drafted Carlin viggers in the sixth

847
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:46,359
Speaker 1: round to be a starting Corner i'm, like, man we're

848
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:47,839
Speaker 1: gonna be in a lot of trouble because he's got

849
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:49,440
Speaker 1: a lot of way to go in terms of. Development

850
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 1: but DO i see a path where all four of

851
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 1: these secondary players could develop into that?

852
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 2: Role like, AGAIN i don't feel quite as as.

853
00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 1: Impassionate about the, linebackers for, Example but those four secondary,

854
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:03,759
Speaker 1: PLAYERS i think they fit a type of. PLAYER i

855
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:05,960
Speaker 1: think they fit a skill, set AND i think they

856
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:08,840
Speaker 1: have a mentality that seems to resonate with that that

857
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 1: that infamous term you talked, About jason of being a.

858
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:14,800
Speaker 2: Commander all, right let's go to the other side of the.

859
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 3: BALL i Think rome is done, here, Right i'm as

860
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:19,279
Speaker 3: saying a wide, receivers, right reide, receivers all.

861
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 2: Right so we have two of.

862
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:23,920
Speaker 3: Them let's Do Jacoby jones wide receiver From Central, florida

863
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 3: not the Other Jacoby, jones, right that played in THE

864
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 3: nfl for a. While so Another jacoby sixth one by the,

865
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:31,719
Speaker 3: way six to, one not six three two twenty. Eight

866
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:35,719
Speaker 3: who knows that's? Right but, uh last year twenty two,

867
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:38,319
Speaker 3: receptions three hundred and twenty seven, yards two. Touchdowns so

868
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:41,400
Speaker 3: didn't see a lot of action as far as a.

869
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 3: Receiver but why are we bringing them in? Here what

870
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 3: did you see from?

871
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:46,799
Speaker 1: Him, yeah he's one of the more interesting ones to.

872
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:48,720
Speaker 1: ME i Just i'm curious to see what the staff

873
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:50,839
Speaker 1: does with him because he is, big like he looks

874
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:52,400
Speaker 1: like a running back when he's got the ball in his,

875
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:54,080
Speaker 1: hands AND i, thought, well maybe you, know he played

876
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:55,839
Speaker 1: a little bit of running. Back, no that wasn't really

877
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 1: in his. PAST i think he catches the football. Fine

878
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:02,200
Speaker 1: he's not a g. Athlete he's not super. EXPLOSIVE i

879
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:03,920
Speaker 1: think he ran a four to six eight at the.

880
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 1: Combine so there's a little bit of you, know stuff

881
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 1: going on. There in terms of what is his athletic,

882
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 1: CEILING i have no, idea BUT i like the. COMPETITOR

883
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 1: i like what he does with the ball after the.

884
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:19,719
Speaker 1: Catch in the game against SHOOT byu thought he looked.

885
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:20,240
Speaker 2: Like a VERY.

886
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:24,920
Speaker 1: I wan't say, dominant but very competent football. Player and,

887
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:28,719
Speaker 1: again the production is, very very, low and so it's

888
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 1: hard to kind of extrapolate off of. That but interesting guy,

889
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:36,840
Speaker 1: again Because i'm NOT i don't, know, like is he

890
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:39,360
Speaker 1: fast enough to play? Teams is he long enough and

891
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:41,600
Speaker 1: fast enough to play? RECEIVER i don't. Know he's a

892
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:43,759
Speaker 1: guy That i'm curious to see how he progresses over

893
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:44,160
Speaker 1: the course of the.

894
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:46,400
Speaker 3: Summer, yeah, absolutely all. Right the last ONE i want

895
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 3: to talk about is actually one of my favorite ones

896
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 3: THAT i, watched and It's Joe Corey, brooks wide receiver From.

897
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:55,600
Speaker 3: Louisville six to three maybe, yeah six, three there we

898
00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:58,360
Speaker 3: go six three one ninety five and he was first

899
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:02,719
Speaker 3: Team ALL acc sixty one receptions over one thousand, yards nine.

900
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:04,359
Speaker 3: Touchdowns pretty good.

901
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 1: Production, yeah and he's just Like johnny Smooth, Man, like,

902
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:10,920
Speaker 1: yeah he was a fun guy to, Watch like he's

903
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:16,320
Speaker 1: so interesting Watching Jacoby, jones then Watching Jacory. Brooks Jacory

904
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:19,400
Speaker 1: brooks From. Louisville he tracks the football really. Well he

905
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 1: catches the football really. Well he's got a nice subtlety

906
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:25,239
Speaker 1: to how he runs, routes especially in the short. Area

907
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 1: his short airy acceleration is very. GOOD i think he

908
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 1: ran like a one five four, ten which is good

909
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 1: for a guy who's sixty. Three he ran a four six'

910
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 1: five forty, yard dash so the top end speed. Isn't

911
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 1: there so in the short area he reminds me a

912
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:40,920
Speaker 1: little bit Of Like, stevie johnson, you know kind of

913
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:44,319
Speaker 1: like good. Double sticks big body can protect. The throw

914
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 1: but there's nice a nice suddenness. Tune game his deficiency

915
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 1: show up when, it's, LIKE hey i caught, THE ball

916
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 1: i made a. Guy miss and now most receivers. Go

917
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:55,880
Speaker 1: score it's Like now i'm looking around like who's going to?

918
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:56,239
Speaker 2: Catch me.

919
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:59,719
Speaker 1: Type deal but he's a. Big, body again he catches

920
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:01,600
Speaker 1: the f fotball like. His superpower see how he catches.

921
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:03,399
Speaker 1: The football he catches the football away from. His frame

922
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:07,600
Speaker 1: he tracks the football. Really WELL and i could see

923
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:09,719
Speaker 1: a path where he's a guy that maybe didn't tests,

924
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 1: super well but the ten yard, splits there the way

925
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:13,440
Speaker 1: he tracks the football.

926
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:14,640
Speaker 2: IS there i like how he.

927
00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 1: Runs route he does a good job of like being

928
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:19,600
Speaker 1: friendly to, the quarterback uses his frame to protect. The

929
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 1: ball so a GUY that i THINK is i think,

930
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 1: IS compelling i think. IS interesting i think can make

931
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:27,839
Speaker 1: the team depending on how he plays. Special teams but as,

932
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 1: A receiver i really like what he brings to.

933
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 3: The. Table, absolutely yeah he was fun to Watch and

934
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:37,880
Speaker 3: i'm excited ABOUT THIS udf. A class like you were,

935
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:41,759
Speaker 3: saying earlier it's not the athletics standout that last. Year

936
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:43,440
Speaker 3: was but there are some good ball. Players here there.

937
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:45,279
Speaker 1: Really ARE and i look at that just and again

938
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:47,560
Speaker 1: we're going through those, defensive Backs The, carlon viggers the,

939
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:50,920
Speaker 1: central Cypruses the robert McDaniels From jackson state That The

940
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 1: trey rutgers like their, Film's good like. IT'S not i

941
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 1: understand why they didn't. Get drafted there's some, athletic limitations

942
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:00,359
Speaker 1: there's some, Age limitations there's a lot of things going,

943
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:02,960
Speaker 1: on there those level of. Competition stuff but they Look

944
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:05,400
Speaker 1: like commanders football players and that makes me. Really excited

945
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:07,920
Speaker 1: do you want TO just i got any you want

946
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:09,400
Speaker 1: to talk about the mini camp invites or is that

947
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 1: JUST too.

948
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:10,879
Speaker 2: I just want to talk about one.

949
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:13,919
Speaker 3: Real quick so a mini camp invite is the one

950
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:16,960
Speaker 3: that is garnering a lot of the attention as well.

951
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:19,360
Speaker 3: It Should Is, gabe taylor the younger Brother Of sean

952
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 3: Taylor from rice Safety. From rice here's how we're going to.

953
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:28,719
Speaker 3: Do it The fred santana They Knew sean taylor. Very

954
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 3: well i'm going to let them Speak To gabe taylor

955
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 3: coming here and they know what that means here On

956
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:35,720
Speaker 3: The command, CENTER podcast.

957
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:37,520
Speaker 1: I think and one they know, him personally they have a.

958
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:40,359
Speaker 1: Great relationship let's have you talk about him as.

959
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 3: A player because we've actually gotten a lot of comments

960
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:47,239
Speaker 3: about What About gabe taylor throughout, the year and we

961
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 3: both watched them and to me it, WAS like i

962
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:52,320
Speaker 3: just don't think he's going to, get DRAFTED and i

963
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 3: think that that can be kind of touchy for fans

964
00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:57,759
Speaker 3: before we get to the point of where he. Is,

965
00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 3: Here right so now that he is going to be

966
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 3: here as an invite to, mini camp let's let's have

967
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:06,239
Speaker 3: you give us your prospect evaluation.

968
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 1: On him so, you know he's, five eight he's one

969
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:10,879
Speaker 1: hundred and eighty, five pounds so not a. Big guy,

970
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:12,840
Speaker 1: you know he ran a four or. FIVE two i

971
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 1: think was listed In the beast is what it was

972
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:16,279
Speaker 1: listened that tenness that he ran a four to. Seven

973
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 1: nine so tomato tomato depends on. The stopwatch, it's very,

974
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 1: very close. SO explosive i like the way. HE plays

975
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:25,239
Speaker 1: I like i like the energy that. HE brings i

976
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:28,239
Speaker 1: think he's got a, good urgency like what like if

977
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:30,239
Speaker 1: you are an urgent, football player like that's, A COP

978
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:32,879
Speaker 1: like i don't give that compliment, to, Everybody RIGHT and

979
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:35,279
Speaker 1: i like that. About him he's he's trying to make,

980
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:37,240
Speaker 1: the tackle he's trying to get, down hill he's trying

981
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 1: to get to the football as quickly as. He can

982
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:42,200
Speaker 1: takes decent angles in the past game, not great, you

983
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:45,800
Speaker 1: know like a little bit up and down and he's not.

984
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 2: A thunderous tackler because he's not a.

985
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:49,440
Speaker 1: Big guy AND so i think about the small Safeties that,

986
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 1: i've known Like The bob sapps of, the world, for,

987
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:54,440
Speaker 1: example right Or The bob sanders what's his Name, from

988
00:42:54,480 --> 00:43:01,520
Speaker 1: indianapolis the, Safety, anyway sanders. Thank you he he's got this,

989
00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:05,319
Speaker 1: great feel he's got this, great athleticism he's got this,

990
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 1: great explosion and there are elements of, the twitch there's

991
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:11,840
Speaker 1: elements of kind of.

992
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:14,359
Speaker 2: The instincts but he's definitely a different tier.

993
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 1: Of ATHLETE and i look, at again just look at

994
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:18,800
Speaker 1: the type of guys that they bring in to play.

995
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:22,480
Speaker 1: Safety here it's a very specific type. Of, guy right

996
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:26,080
Speaker 1: It's your. Robert McDaniels he's six, to two he's, two

997
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:29,920
Speaker 1: ten he's got thirty two. In charms that's not what this, is,

998
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 1: Here right it's a Much, different so as MUCH as

999
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 1: i like the energy that he, plays with there are

1000
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 1: some limitations to his game that are important.

1001
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 2: TO acknowledge. I think and does that mean he's not

1002
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:39,359
Speaker 2: gonna make?

1003
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:41,600
Speaker 1: The, Team no, because Again like i've seen dudes come

1004
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:43,719
Speaker 1: in and they play with their hair, on fire and

1005
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:45,839
Speaker 1: they figure it out and they make the roster and

1006
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 1: they become good pros for a, long.

1007
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:48,960
Speaker 2: Time potential hall. Of.

1008
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:51,759
Speaker 1: Famers CORRECT but i just look at HIM and i

1009
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:55,160
Speaker 1: think there's a reason he went undrafted and there's a

1010
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:58,279
Speaker 1: reason he's a. Tryout guy and, those reasons to me

1011
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:01,719
Speaker 1: are his. Physical limitations and he doesn't do anything exceptionally

1012
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:04,359
Speaker 1: well to make, you, say oh even though he's a little,

1013
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:06,920
Speaker 1: bit small we're willing to overlook some of that because

1014
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:11,759
Speaker 1: HE does x. Extremely well HE does, x okay HE does,

1015
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:14,839
Speaker 1: y okay but it's nothing that's going to push him

1016
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 1: over the top in terms of like saying we have

1017
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:18,840
Speaker 1: to have him here for training camp or whatever the

1018
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:20,399
Speaker 1: way that they did with these, other guys the guys

1019
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:21,440
Speaker 1: we just, talked about.

1020
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:21,759
Speaker 2: And that's your.

1021
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:23,840
Speaker 3: Prospect evaluation BUT what i want to say on, that

1022
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 3: is like, that prospect this is not who he could

1023
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:32,160
Speaker 3: be or what like the reason he, is here. They

1024
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:36,440
Speaker 3: wouldn't so they're not just bringing him in because of the.

1025
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:38,839
Speaker 3: Name's tailor they're not right and just say that. That's

1026
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:42,319
Speaker 3: nice they're not. Doing that he has a chance to

1027
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:45,359
Speaker 3: make the, Team here he's going to have, the opportunity

1028
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:50,360
Speaker 3: and that speaks to he does bring, something right like he,

1029
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:53,319
Speaker 3: has something and there are guys that can come here

1030
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:57,440
Speaker 3: that can work, real hard that can they can flash

1031
00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:00,480
Speaker 3: enough that they can make. The team so you're in.

1032
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:02,360
Speaker 3: YOUR evaluate i just want to want to make. That

1033
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:04,040
Speaker 3: clear we're not saying he's not going to make. The

1034
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:07,480
Speaker 3: team we're not saying this Is, no look ap doesn't do.

1035
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:09,879
Speaker 3: THAT here dq don't don't do the thing here where,

1036
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:11,440
Speaker 3: it's ay what would you even?

1037
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:13,680
Speaker 2: Call it like it chityse cherity case is. Not that

1038
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 2: that's not what.

1039
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:16,880
Speaker 3: This, is, no, No RIGHT so i just want to

1040
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:19,319
Speaker 3: be clear. With that that's that's not how this. Organization's

1041
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 3: run that's not what he's doing what we're. Doing here

1042
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:23,280
Speaker 3: he is coming in to try and make the. Football

1043
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:25,879
Speaker 3: team and just like everybody else that's, coming in he's

1044
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 3: got he's got.

1045
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:28,839
Speaker 1: A SHOT and i want to, just CLARIFY like i

1046
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 1: like the energy he, plays with AND when i see

1047
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:33,719
Speaker 1: a player that plays, WITH that i imagine them coming

1048
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:36,399
Speaker 1: to a Camp and, i'm like they got, a shot,

1049
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 1: YOU know i mean that gives them. A shot so

1050
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:39,799
Speaker 1: he comes out here and plays with his hair on

1051
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:43,640
Speaker 1: fire and, you know gets. A turnover whatever he's, doing

1052
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:46,440
Speaker 1: right there's there's. An opportunity i'm, just, SAYING like i

1053
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:49,040
Speaker 1: don't think THAT the nfl forgot. About him don't THINK

1054
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:51,440
Speaker 1: the nfl missed on him in terms, Of evaluation like

1055
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:53,839
Speaker 1: he this is who he is as. A player he's

1056
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:55,960
Speaker 1: got a long road, to go coming from a guy

1057
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:57,920
Speaker 1: who had a long road, To, GO like i understand

1058
00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:00,439
Speaker 1: what this road. Looks Like so i'm rooting. FOR him

1059
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:02,520
Speaker 1: i wanted to work out it'd be a, great STORY

1060
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 1: but I think i think he understands, this too and

1061
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:08,520
Speaker 1: Talking with, red like, it's tough, you know it's it's.

1062
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:10,239
Speaker 1: Gonna be it's it's it's, a tough like look at

1063
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 1: just look at the depth, at safety look at the

1064
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:14,120
Speaker 1: kind of body types they.

1065
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:16,279
Speaker 2: Have here it's it's just a it's a tough room to.

1066
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:18,080
Speaker 1: Get into and he had, other opportunities but he wanted to,

1067
00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:19,759
Speaker 1: be HERE and i KIND of i respect that.

1068
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:20,319
Speaker 2: So well.

1069
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:23,120
Speaker 3: It's possible and The reason i'm saying it's possible is

1070
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 3: because you. Did IT and i don't mean that as In,

1071
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:27,520
Speaker 3: that no it's you've told me before that like you

1072
00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:30,239
Speaker 3: saw you talk to a scout or something and they do

1073
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:32,799
Speaker 3: like Green or red, or whatever and you had like

1074
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:35,280
Speaker 3: reds all the way down or something and so.

1075
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:37,799
Speaker 1: So yeah so basically the story IS like i went

1076
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:39,000
Speaker 1: to a guy and he, was like this is my

1077
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:40,120
Speaker 1: algorithm for drafting a.

1078
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 2: Tight END and i was.

1079
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:44,400
Speaker 1: Like cool and it's but all these guys have started

1080
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 1: at some point IN. The nfl these these are what

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Speaker 1: their measurements. Look like so it's, you know here thirty three,

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00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:52,160
Speaker 1: in charms here's this, four six here's the, two fifty

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Speaker 1: here's the, six five and it's those. Are green that

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Speaker 1: means they meet the criteria for. The Position so i'm

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Speaker 1: looking at, The list i'm. Going down oh there's a

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Speaker 1: guy him.

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00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:02,800
Speaker 2: That's cool every single one of them.

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00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:05,879
Speaker 1: Is green so over the last twenty years of him,

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00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:08,719
Speaker 1: doing this there's only two guys that have started significant

1090
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:09,799
Speaker 1: minutes IN the nfl that have.

1091
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:12,760
Speaker 2: Been red one of them is. Your BOY.

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Speaker 1: So, I, UNDERSTAND like, i, like yeah this is. Exactly

1093
00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 1: right like if you if he comes in and, he

1094
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 1: grinds he gets what HE would, i say got to

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00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:25,120
Speaker 1: be a little bit of good and a little bit,

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00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:27,480
Speaker 1: of lucky and so that's that applies to him. As well, so,

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00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 1: yeah dude ten years IN the Nfl and i've seen.

1098
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 2: CRAZIER stuff i hope.

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00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:36,560
Speaker 3: YOU go i wish you would like get asking for

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00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:39,400
Speaker 3: a copy of that with the red and you should.

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Speaker 2: FRAME that i kind of. Want, To really i'm really

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00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 2: Proud of that's a hell of.

1103
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:45,719
Speaker 3: A story it's an underdog story and it's AGAIN why

1104
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:48,840
Speaker 3: i love talking to you through the. Draft process just

1105
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 3: your perspective is just unique. And different ten years IN, the, Nfl,

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00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 3: man yeah that's.

1107
00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:54,880
Speaker 1: No joke it's been a lot of fun doing this

1108
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:57,360
Speaker 1: and it's crazy this is our. Last SHOW but i

1109
00:47:57,360 --> 00:48:00,520
Speaker 1: can't wait to watch, these guys, watch them, you know watch,

1110
00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:02,879
Speaker 1: the udfas watch the try out guys over the next couple,

1111
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Speaker 1: of days a couple, of weeks because this IS like

1112
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:05,920
Speaker 1: i really feel for.

1113
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:06,080
Speaker 2: This.

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00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:08,239
Speaker 1: Group man i'm pulling for every single one of. THESE

1115
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:10,080
Speaker 1: guys i hope they all kind of can live OUT

1116
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:12,600
Speaker 1: their nfl dream and play for, ten, years man because

1117
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:14,319
Speaker 1: it's it's a blast AND the nfl is an. Awesome

1118
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 1: opportunity but this show has, been awesome and this is

1119
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:19,480
Speaker 1: this is the this is the biggest we've ever. Done

1120
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:21,680
Speaker 1: it hopefully next year we'll have, Us back we'll do

1121
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:22,520
Speaker 1: a sponsor and do it.

1122
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 2: Even bigger next year and watch.

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00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:26,360
Speaker 3: More guys Thanks The sea geek for jumping on. This

1124
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:29,120
Speaker 3: year that allows us, to travel go To The Combine

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Speaker 3: senior bowl and things.

1126
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:30,520
Speaker 2: Like that.

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00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:35,600
Speaker 3: Just super. SUPER excited i got to do this. With

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Speaker 3: you very happy With. SEE geek i want To Thank.

1129
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:41,880
Speaker 2: Ryan yoacom, oh. Yeah yeah he he knows.

1130
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:43,520
Speaker 3: That this is a passion project for us and that

1131
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 3: our fans, Like, it like thank you to the fans, for, commenting, liking,

1132
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Speaker 3: subscribing downloading like the numbers.

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1135
00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 3: thanks to him for knowing that this was in. The

1136
00:48:57,560 --> 00:49:00,880
Speaker 3: pipe we didn't have a sponsor, to begin and then he, was,

1137
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:03,239
Speaker 3: like yeah but we're gonna make it WORK because i

1138
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:05,600
Speaker 3: know that our fans like it and you guys. Like

1139
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:08,280
Speaker 3: it And Then sea geek, jumped one which. Is awesome,

1140
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:11,919
Speaker 3: Thank You. Sea Geek sea geek's. The best, so man

1141
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:13,560
Speaker 3: this was just a lot. OF fun i had a

1142
00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:14,919
Speaker 3: lot of fun. Last year it's been better.

1143
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:15,040
Speaker 2: This.

1144
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:17,439
Speaker 1: YEAR yeah i can't wait For, NEXT yeah i can't

1145
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:18,920
Speaker 1: wait for. Next YEAR and i can't wait for you

1146
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:21,680
Speaker 1: To tell fred that he's the draft. Guru, again gosh

1147
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:22,719
Speaker 1: that was such a dagger to.

1148
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:25,839
Speaker 3: My, soul well we'll think of another way to get

1149
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:28,040
Speaker 3: get you back. On top that's the first thing you Lost.

1150
00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:29,960
Speaker 3: To fred that's true first.

1151
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:32,360
Speaker 2: All right but thanks for.

1152
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:34,799
Speaker 1: Joining us please make sure you like to subscribe and

1153
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:37,560
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1154
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Speaker 1: stay tuned for more ticket to the draft content a year.

1155
00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:40,960
Speaker 2: From now.

1156
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1157
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