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Speaker 1: Ron Anian. Sometimes I'm not here to hand out silver bullets.

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Speaker 1: I'm here to hand out diagnostic approach, trying to teach

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Speaker 1: you and make you better diagnosticians, because isn't that what

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Speaker 1: it's all about? The car Doctor at the pleasure of

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Speaker 1: repert that they have two thousand and twelve. How the

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Speaker 1: But it's only got fourteen thousands of miles barter not bad? Okay,

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Speaker 1: well that's not that's not really an issue that it

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Speaker 1: was just it was waiting for you. So it's just

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the radio home of ron and Anian, the

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Speaker 1: Car Doctor, since this is where car owners the world

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Speaker 1: overturned to for their definitive opinion on automotive repair. If

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Speaker 1: your mechanics giving you a busy signal, pick up the

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Speaker 1: phone and call in. The garage doors are open, but

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Speaker 1: I am here to take your fault at eight five

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Speaker 1: five six and now he running. Hey, welcome aboard. UM,

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Speaker 1: I've got to start the lead story this hour with

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Speaker 1: this that um if you saw it. Uh. This week,

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Speaker 1: General Motors advised Chevy Bolt owners to park fifty feet

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Speaker 1: away from other vehicles. And no it's not. It's not

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Speaker 1: personal hygiene issues. It's nothing other than um, you know,

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Speaker 1: I read the article and all I could think about,

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Speaker 1: I'm to date myself. Here was Aartie Johnson from laugh

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Speaker 1: and remember Alartie Johnson from Laughing. He would always do that.

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Speaker 1: Very interesting, right, this is very interesting. GM advises Chevy

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Speaker 1: Bolt owners to park fifty ft away from other vehicles. Um,

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Speaker 1: GM owners to call him to GM's hotline. Are being

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Speaker 1: asked to park their cars fifty feet away. Well, it

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Speaker 1: isn't the most realistic piece of advice. You think it's

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Speaker 1: a sign that the Chevy Bolts battery issues are more

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Speaker 1: dangerous than first expect that. The first notable Chevy Bolt

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Speaker 1: recall was last year, following it has been going on

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Speaker 1: for a while following reports of sporadic battery fires. It

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Speaker 1: was a limited recall. Turns out that every Chevy Bolt battery,

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Speaker 1: every manufactured by l G KIM may contains small dangerous defects. Wow, Gem,

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Speaker 1: finally you should a recall every Chevy Bolt ever sold

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Speaker 1: in August and paused Chevy Bolt production two weeks ago.

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Speaker 1: It's now working directly with LG Kim to bring some

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Speaker 1: GM quality metrics. What were they doing the first time

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Speaker 1: to the battery manufacturing process and unfortunately Chevy Bolt owners

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Speaker 1: So here's here's the advice we want you Chevy Bolt

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Speaker 1: owners to follow. Don't let your vehicle exceed charge. Use

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Speaker 1: the target charge level mode. Instructures are on the Chevy

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Speaker 1: Bolt recall page. Charge your vehicle more frequently because that'll

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Speaker 1: be easy to do, and avoid depleting the battery below

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Speaker 1: the seventy mile mark. Park your vehicle outside when it

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Speaker 1: isn't charging, and don't charge it overnight. And keep your

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Speaker 1: car fifty feet away from other vehicles and buildings if possible.

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Speaker 1: What do you do if you live in New York City?

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Speaker 1: What are you gonna park it next to? What do

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Speaker 1: younna do? Park it out in New Jersey? You know

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Speaker 1: you're near a building? The matter? Where you going in

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Speaker 1: an urban area? I can't, I can't, I can't. You

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Speaker 1: mean very interesting? It was stupid. It was stupid. I

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Speaker 1: can't wait for the all electric car future. You people

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Speaker 1: it just makes no sense. But if you're a Chevy

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Speaker 1: let's get over to Rich in New Jersey as a

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Speaker 1: call back on a ninety Pontiac Rich. Welcome to the

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Speaker 1: car doctor, sir. How can we help you today? Thank you,

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Speaker 1: thanks for taking my colum. I called last week and

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Speaker 1: we spoke about this ninety Pontiac Formula. It's a Firebird

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Speaker 1: very nice car. So I've had it for twenty years

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Speaker 1: and I've worked on it to that entire time. But

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Speaker 1: now I'm having a problem with the the engine buck

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Speaker 1: and missing between seventeen hundred and two thousand rpm and

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Speaker 1: good below the sevred So you thought about it, and

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Speaker 1: you told me four things to check, UM, and I'll

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Speaker 1: the results. Okay. So the first thing was the admission

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Speaker 1: go back to the first item you said, ignission timing

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Speaker 1: consistent are bouncing? It bounces all over the all over

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Speaker 1: the place with the electric spark timing connected. UM, it

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Speaker 1: bounces that it has it said it about twenty eight

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Speaker 1: going up and down, up and down, UM all the time.

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Speaker 1: If you hold it off off idle like a thousand RPM.

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Speaker 1: is the is the RPM is the is the is

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Speaker 1: no timing issue ahead. Next okay, so um the voltage

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Speaker 1: It happens. It stays steady. When the car is bucking

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Speaker 1: at seventeen seventeen to two thousand and the battering, the

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Speaker 1: sees a battery voltage. Okay. The next thing was amount

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Speaker 1: It was called when they were hot, meaning to twenty degrees,

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Speaker 1: So I did that, and I don't have any bucking

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Speaker 1: So we've got to talk then about you know what

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Speaker 1: triggers the electronic spark timing circles it And there should

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Speaker 1: be a knock sensor in this vehicle. If I remember

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Speaker 1: right from ninety there's a way that they would they

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Speaker 1: would they would listen for knock. So you know, I

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Speaker 1: an E S T circuit performance fault. Now, is the

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Speaker 1: stock distributor back in it? Richard? You still have the

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Speaker 1: performance distributor that you had purchased in I still have

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Speaker 1: a performance distributor that but the performance distributor was like

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Speaker 1: a street distributor from ms D until it was called

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Speaker 1: MSD Street Fire. So it's not it's it's not really,

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Speaker 1: it's not a real performance distributor. It's a little bit

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Speaker 1: a little bit. So does that distributor give you the

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Speaker 1: I'm not with you to say that again in other words,

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Speaker 1: So then what we want to know is that now

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Speaker 1: have you have a scan tool. Rich, No, I don't. Okay,

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Speaker 1: if you the knock sensor on that car is located

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Speaker 1: it's down on the side of the block where you

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Speaker 1: would drain the water out of the block if you

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Speaker 1: wanted to remove the right Yeah, yeah, okay, the pipe

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Speaker 1: in there. Okay, So I'm wondering I would disconnect the

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Speaker 1: It's gonna it's gonna advance timing. I think ten degrees

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Speaker 1: See it? Does it? See it change? And I think

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Speaker 1: then in the knock sensor unplugged, does the problem go

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Speaker 1: That's what I'm here for, kid, all right, all right, yes,

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Speaker 1: thank you very much. Welcome rich you have a good

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Speaker 1: rest of the day. So, of course, listen, that's what

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Speaker 1: We're here for you. Call us. That's what this is

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Speaker 1: she's real. Find my well, welcome back. We're on any

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Speaker 1: j I love that kind of talk. Um, let's go

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Speaker 1: over to Jeremy and d C. See what's going on here.

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Speaker 1: Jeremy wants to buy a new truck. Jeremy, Welcome to

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Speaker 1: the Car Doctor, sir. How can I help? Hey man,

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Speaker 1: thanks for having me. I've been looking maybe to order Colorado.

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Speaker 1: They got really good trailer towing numbers and the Diesel

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Speaker 1: stuff about that Colorado Diesel. But I got two little questions.

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Speaker 1: One is it a finicky motor like am I gonna

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Speaker 1: have issues with check engine lights perpetually? And two, you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm worried about getting parts ten years from now if

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Speaker 1: I got one with the three point six liter V

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Speaker 1: six that engine is I mean in everything you know,

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Speaker 1: but that diesel is kind of a one off made

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Speaker 1: by I think if you could believe it and you

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Speaker 1: see parts availability in the future, is being a problem

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Speaker 1: I'll answer that part first. I think going forward, I

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Speaker 1: vehicles that unless they grow in popularity, I think once

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Speaker 1: in the shape it's in. That's not really the reason.

426
00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:03,120
Speaker 1: But anyway, um so that's new, never ever worked. Thank

427
00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:05,720
Speaker 1: god we're here. Let's go over to Brian and Philly. Brian,

428
00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:07,560
Speaker 1: welcome to the car doctor, sir. Thanks for waiting. How

429
00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:10,600
Speaker 1: can I help Roan? How are you? I'm good? What's

430
00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:15,680
Speaker 1: going on? H Um? This is not theoretically a problem,

431
00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:18,960
Speaker 1: It's more like an inquiry. I've had two thousand seventeen

432
00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:21,639
Speaker 1: Ford Fusion. I'm coming up on three months since I

433
00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:24,920
Speaker 1: bought it, bought it in December of sixteen. Um, still

434
00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:28,560
Speaker 1: in the original battery, which seems to be better. Um,

435
00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:31,520
Speaker 1: it's better than I've done the last couple of years. Um,

436
00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:35,000
Speaker 1: the battery seems fine. But you know, like I said,

437
00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:37,119
Speaker 1: since I'm coming up on five years, it seems like

438
00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:40,320
Speaker 1: a while there's Is there any indication or any way

439
00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:45,120
Speaker 1: to tell when the battery needs to be replaced? You

440
00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:50,359
Speaker 1: can perform a load test. A competent shop equipped with

441
00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:54,960
Speaker 1: an accurate battery load test charging system tester could do that.

442
00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:57,520
Speaker 1: There are companies out there if you want to go

443
00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:00,680
Speaker 1: read about the procedure, what sort of equip meant they use?

444
00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:02,960
Speaker 1: As a company out there by the name of Associated

445
00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:06,320
Speaker 1: Associated Test Equipment if you google it. I believe their

446
00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:09,560
Speaker 1: website is Associated test dot com. I'm not percent sure

447
00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:12,119
Speaker 1: of that, but if you google Associated Test Equipment it

448
00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:15,400
Speaker 1: will come up and um, then it's fascinating. They talk

449
00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:17,280
Speaker 1: about how the machines get made and what they do

450
00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:19,840
Speaker 1: and what they'll test. That'll kind of boggle your mind.

451
00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:22,720
Speaker 1: They make some of the best stuff on the planet. Um.

452
00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:25,880
Speaker 1: You can also go out to auto batteries dot com,

453
00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:30,520
Speaker 1: great website, good source, good resource, and they will explain

454
00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:33,520
Speaker 1: to you how batteries are constructed and purposeful testing, and

455
00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:35,919
Speaker 1: you know where to source them from and and what

456
00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:40,080
Speaker 1: to purchase. You know, my concern would be that, yes,

457
00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:42,919
Speaker 1: it's five years old, and my rule of thumb has

458
00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:46,399
Speaker 1: always been five years old. I'm gonna change it just

459
00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:48,080
Speaker 1: because I want to change it on my terms. I

460
00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:50,399
Speaker 1: want to change it on my timeline. Uh, you know,

461
00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:52,600
Speaker 1: I want to change it. We're going into winter here

462
00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:54,479
Speaker 1: in the Northeast and the next couple of months, and

463
00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:57,359
Speaker 1: I don't want to find out January three four ft

464
00:24:57,359 --> 00:24:59,400
Speaker 1: of snow on the ground and it's coming down freezing

465
00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:02,199
Speaker 1: rain that I can't auto start the car because the

466
00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:03,920
Speaker 1: battery is dead and I've got to go out there

467
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:06,000
Speaker 1: and dig it out of the snow pile and chip

468
00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:08,800
Speaker 1: away at it. You know what I'm saying. Um, I

469
00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:11,840
Speaker 1: did that on my my two five stars when I

470
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:14,800
Speaker 1: hit five years in that car, changed automatically. My last

471
00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:18,040
Speaker 1: car was a Nissan Ultima, and that one just died.

472
00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:20,399
Speaker 1: Um it went maybe I don't even know if it

473
00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:23,520
Speaker 1: went four years. It just flat out died. And some

474
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:27,439
Speaker 1: some batteries, some batteries won't go five years. Uh, you know,

475
00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:29,520
Speaker 1: it seems like and I don't know if it's by

476
00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:33,080
Speaker 1: model year, but I will say this, most Ford vehicles

477
00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:37,400
Speaker 1: five to six years on a battery g MS four

478
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:39,840
Speaker 1: maybe five, you know, And somebody out there is gonna

479
00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:41,359
Speaker 1: write me an email, Ryan, I've got a GM with

480
00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:43,480
Speaker 1: ten years on a good year. The ones sent it

481
00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:47,399
Speaker 1: to the Smithsonian. Alright, Honda group size fifty one batteries.

482
00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:50,440
Speaker 1: I don't think the Honda group size fifty ones go

483
00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:52,440
Speaker 1: more than three three and a half years. And we're trying,

484
00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:55,600
Speaker 1: We're constantly putting batteries in the vehicles. And you can

485
00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:57,560
Speaker 1: play with brand, you can play with you know, all

486
00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:00,480
Speaker 1: sorts of different whatever you can change and it doesn't matter.

487
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:03,119
Speaker 1: It's the fifty one group size is A is A

488
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:06,960
Speaker 1: is a tough battery to keep longevity out of. Uh

489
00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:10,960
Speaker 1: So I would, you know, to answer your question directly, yeah,

490
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:13,800
Speaker 1: I would change it, um, you know, I would. I

491
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:16,000
Speaker 1: would replace the battery. It's it's you're going into your

492
00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:20,240
Speaker 1: fifth winter now. Um, you know it's it just makes

493
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:24,320
Speaker 1: sense to change it now before you have the problem. Yeah,

494
00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:26,200
Speaker 1: because this is like I said my niece on ultimate,

495
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:30,320
Speaker 1: I got less than four and um, and you know,

496
00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:32,160
Speaker 1: I don't want to I don't want to get into

497
00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:35,000
Speaker 1: that position. I'm taking a road trip within two weeks,

498
00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:36,920
Speaker 1: so I'm kind of you know, I'm taking you. I'm

499
00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:40,359
Speaker 1: going out of state in a few weeks. But my

500
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,600
Speaker 1: in my inspection time is coming up in the next

501
00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:43,920
Speaker 1: month or two, so I think that would be a

502
00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:47,080
Speaker 1: good opportunity. Taking your advice, Yeah, let him, you know what,

503
00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:48,920
Speaker 1: take it, take it, take it into the shop, let

504
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:50,560
Speaker 1: them load test the battery to see you have a

505
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:53,240
Speaker 1: reference point. But tell and ask them also, and you'll

506
00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:55,400
Speaker 1: read about this at auto batteries dot com. They'll talk

507
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:58,719
Speaker 1: about cold cranking amps and battery size, the electrical capacity

508
00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:01,800
Speaker 1: of the battery, not the physical case size. Asked them,

509
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:03,760
Speaker 1: you know, if if if the regular battery for the

510
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:07,240
Speaker 1: vehicle is a hundred dollars, how much is the next

511
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:11,400
Speaker 1: larger electrical rated battery that will still physically fit the car?

512
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,200
Speaker 1: You know, they always make a gold version of silver version,

513
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 1: a good, better, best scenario. And sometimes you'll find, for

514
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:19,560
Speaker 1: what might be another twenty bucks, you'll get a battery

515
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 1: that's got fifteen more electrical power. And I tend to

516
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:26,920
Speaker 1: do that simply because of all the electronics on vehicles today.

517
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:30,199
Speaker 1: I want something that gives me the most electrical capability

518
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 1: that I can get to, you know, to allow me to, um,

519
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:36,240
Speaker 1: you know, do what I have to do. There's no

520
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:38,000
Speaker 1: such thing as a too big of a battery as

521
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:41,840
Speaker 1: far as electrical capacity. So um, just let me let me,

522
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:47,320
Speaker 1: let me let me se right. So but um, yeah, anyway,

523
00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:49,679
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Brian. Uh, we seem to have dropped you.

524
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:52,320
Speaker 1: I apologized the phone system when goofy, but um you

525
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:54,639
Speaker 1: got my point. I got your point. Um, do that

526
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 1: be safe? And uh, I hope you enjoy your road

527
00:27:57,359 --> 00:27:59,359
Speaker 1: trip out of state. I'm not any of the card doctric.

528
00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:14,080
Speaker 1: We're back right after this. Okay, welcome back when I'm

529
00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:15,720
Speaker 1: naming the car doctor. Let's get over and talk to

530
00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:18,879
Speaker 1: an in Arizona, Oh six Toyota, Tacoma, and welcome to

531
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:21,679
Speaker 1: the car doctor. How can I help? Um? You know what,

532
00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:24,400
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to educate myself and help my mechanics.

533
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:26,440
Speaker 1: What's going on. It's been it's been about a month

534
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:29,480
Speaker 1: and a half now. My engine light came on, and

535
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 1: so I don't my A B S slide is not on.

536
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:34,880
Speaker 1: Nothing else is happening. But what started two weeks ago

537
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 1: is that my speedometer now is going from forty boom

538
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:41,160
Speaker 1: it drops down to zero and it stays at zero

539
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:44,200
Speaker 1: met sometimes through the duration of my trip. My mechanic

540
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 1: did do um a transmission speed sensor change about two

541
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:53,680
Speaker 1: weeks ago. It didn't change anything at all. So I'm

542
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 1: just trying to see because now my speedometer is being affected.

543
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,440
Speaker 1: I don't know whether or not you got a really

544
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 1: dumb this this answer down for me. This is easy, Okay,

545
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know anything about cars, but I

546
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:09,959
Speaker 1: do want to educate. I just do a little baby

547
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,480
Speaker 1: maintenance on my on my truck that I tried to

548
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:15,600
Speaker 1: do myself. But I just don't know if I have

549
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 1: a cable a dometer problem, or a speed sensor a

550
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:22,280
Speaker 1: dominant problem, or maybe it's the same thing. Well, first

551
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:24,400
Speaker 1: of all, there's no there's no cable here. This is all.

552
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:27,720
Speaker 1: This is all electronic, alright, Everything here is electric and wires,

553
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 1: so we haven't had cables in a while. So that

554
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:35,720
Speaker 1: being said, P zero five is just that's the fault code.

555
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:40,800
Speaker 1: That's saying it's seeing a loss of signal somewhere along

556
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 1: the way between the spiometer and the engine control module

557
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:47,160
Speaker 1: and or the transmission something's not sending out a correct signal.

558
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:50,000
Speaker 1: What happens is UM, and it will happen one of

559
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:52,400
Speaker 1: two ways, depending upon which engine this is. They'll use

560
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:56,120
Speaker 1: a combination of wheel speed sensors. Do you know what

561
00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:58,800
Speaker 1: I mean when I say wheel speed sensors in UM?

562
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:00,800
Speaker 1: You know, for the A B S they'll use a

563
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:05,400
Speaker 1: combination of wheel speed sensors and or transmission speed sensors

564
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 1: to help determine and calculate vehicle speed to display on

565
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:12,600
Speaker 1: the spiedometer what you see it, you know, in behind

566
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:16,880
Speaker 1: the steering wheel. So that being said, you know, a

567
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 1: P zero five hundred can be a fault with one

568
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:23,719
Speaker 1: of those sensors. It can be a fault with the

569
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:26,640
Speaker 1: engine computer. It can be a fault with this spidometer

570
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 1: cluster itself. It can be a fault with wiring, can

571
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:32,560
Speaker 1: be a fault with ground. The fact that you're starting

572
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 1: to see the spiedometer drop out. Now what I'd like

573
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:38,800
Speaker 1: to do is I would like to hook up a

574
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:43,760
Speaker 1: scan tool and look at vehicle speed all right, and

575
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:46,840
Speaker 1: drive it and you know, turn the cruise on, set

576
00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 1: the cruiser just to make it easy because he doesn't

577
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:51,680
Speaker 1: want to be distracted. And if he's driving along at

578
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:56,560
Speaker 1: thirty and he's reading is a steady rate of speed

579
00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 1: at and he's gonna be reading what the computer sees

580
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:02,719
Speaker 1: with the scan to but the spiometer starts to drop out.

581
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 1: From my seat here, it sounds like we've either got

582
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 1: a problem with the ground for what they call the

583
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 1: combination meter, which is what the cluster is, or the

584
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 1: cluster itself. If if you're seeing erratic speed, that matches,

585
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 1: if the scancel shows you an erratic signal that matches

586
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:24,560
Speaker 1: what the spiometer is doing, then it's what's driving it.

587
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 1: And we've got to think more about there are other

588
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 1: sensors involved in this circuit or the related wiring. Does

589
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 1: that does that make Does that make sense that I well,

590
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:36,120
Speaker 1: not a whole lot, but it's just I'm taking notes

591
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 1: that maybe and maybe my mechanic hopefully does already know this.

592
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 1: But you know, it comes down to it. I just

593
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 1: don't trust anybody so real. That's why I'm trying to

594
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:47,680
Speaker 1: educate myself. So he's talking to me, I can understand,

595
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 1: all right, think of it, Think of it. Let me

596
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:51,000
Speaker 1: see if I can. Do you Do you jog? Do

597
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 1: you run? Do you walk? Do you see your job? Right? You? Ever?

598
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:56,560
Speaker 1: You ever put one of those things on your ankle,

599
00:31:56,720 --> 00:32:00,800
Speaker 1: the distance meters that tell you how far you ran? Okay,

600
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 1: so you know you you you ran and it said

601
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 1: you were gonna run two miles and it said and

602
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 1: you ran two miles. If that meter was off and

603
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:10,480
Speaker 1: you ran two miles, but it only says a mile

604
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:14,719
Speaker 1: and a half, the center is bad, right, Okay, If

605
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 1: you ran two miles and it says two miles, but

606
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 1: it feels like you ran three miles, your brain interpreted

607
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 1: it wrong. Something's wrong between your foot and your brain

608
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 1: right wiring. Okay, So it's a matter of just what

609
00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 1: we're trying to do is just track down the possible

610
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 1: source of where the failures occurring and then working our

611
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 1: way out from there. There is a way to diagnose

612
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 1: this um and he needs to do that, not just

613
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 1: keep continue to swell parts That would be my only

614
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:42,480
Speaker 1: concern asking to diagnose it, maybe use a lab scope,

615
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:45,200
Speaker 1: go that route and um see what that does form.

616
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 1: If you have any questions, you call me back. Be well,

617
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 1: I'm rand anating in the car doctor. We'll return right

618
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:59,240
Speaker 1: after this. Welcome back the car doctor, boy. Where the

619
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:01,320
Speaker 1: two hours go? Tom? It just kind of flew by?

620
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:04,480
Speaker 1: You know, I keep yeah, I you know here we

621
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 1: are right the last couple of minutes. I gotta read

622
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 1: this letter, or paraphrase this letter David got he's an

623
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 1: account exact for RG Media. Um. He's out there in Iowa.

624
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:16,720
Speaker 1: Um uh. And he's part of a bunch of different

625
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 1: radio stations, one of which his news talk fifty k

626
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:22,240
Speaker 1: x E L who carries us out there Iowa way.

627
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:24,720
Speaker 1: And and I've got to tell you I love reading

628
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 1: David's letters. Ron hopes All well, the AUDI two thousand

629
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:30,360
Speaker 1: has thrown a cat code. I'm paraphrasing here. I talked

630
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:32,040
Speaker 1: to my mechanic about what it could be a too

631
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 1: centered YadA YadA YadA. How good to Seinfeld? He installed

632
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 1: a word into the English language, YadA YadA YadA. I

633
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:39,560
Speaker 1: called Berryman Yester to see whether in which one of

634
00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 1: their products might clean things up David goes on to

635
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 1: talk about the positive experience he had with their customer

636
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 1: service in their phone system, and we got to talk

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Speaker 1: that help him decide which part or which chemical product

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Speaker 1: Barryman makes would you know, be the right one for

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Speaker 1: his vehicle to help clean up the catalytic converter folt.

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Speaker 1: He then goes on to talk about a couple of

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Speaker 1: other things, in one of which is mean he wants

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Speaker 1: to come out and see U, which would be a

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Speaker 1: great time. I can tell that would I love his

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Speaker 1: line about tell Tom Hi, and Tom Hi, by the way,

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Speaker 1: keep up the good work. I want to get out

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Speaker 1: there before one of us retires. Wait, that will never happen. Okay,

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Speaker 1: before one of us dies. That might happen eventually, because

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Speaker 1: we're all just visitors here. Take care and thanks for

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Speaker 1: having such a great show in the station for us

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Speaker 1: to carry and for endorsing a products such as Barren Men.

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Speaker 1: They really do a great job. David Um David, always

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Speaker 1: a pleasure. I always love getting these letters. And for you, sir,

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Speaker 1: you have a creative arders right licensing ability to write

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Speaker 1: that just makes me stand there in awe a great guy.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate everything you do for us and for radio

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Speaker 1: until the next time I'm running any of the card doctor.

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Speaker 1: The mechanics aren't expensive, they're placeless. Let's see you