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Speaker 4: Removing the queen is of the head as the head
Speaker 4: of state is something that's long overdue, and becoming a
Speaker 4: republic just means that you know you're no longer you
Speaker 4: have no affiliation with the United Kingdom and your former
Speaker 4: colonial masters.
Speaker 5: So country is already an independent country, but they were
Speaker 5: still kind of under.
Speaker 4: The flag of real mafia criminal organization type mentality that Okay,
Speaker 4: I'll let you have the block, but you know you
Speaker 4: still gotta check in with me.
Speaker 6: My graduate from my school being false backdrop B drop
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Speaker 5: So if you watch Earn your Leisure, you know that
Speaker 5: one thing we stay away from is politics. We've never
Speaker 5: interviewed a politician. That is for a reason because we're
Speaker 5: a political You could be a Democrat, you could be
Speaker 5: a Republican. That's we don't really go into that lane.
Speaker 5: Our lane is financing business. But there's exceptions to every rule.
Speaker 5: So if we was going to have a conversation with
Speaker 5: a politician, there was only one, maybe two that we
Speaker 5: would have made an exception or so. Shout to my
Speaker 5: brother Steve O. When he told me that we had
Speaker 5: an opportunity to talk to Sean, I was like, Nah,
Speaker 5: that's a no brainer. That's legendary. You know what I'm
Speaker 5: saying for us being fans of the culture, being fans
Speaker 5: of the music, seeing Sean's transition from being the hottest
Speaker 5: rapper in New York and the unfortunate incident being incarcerated,
Speaker 5: being kicked out of America for almost a decade, wasn't
Speaker 5: even allowed on American soil. To now before you say
Speaker 5: his name, you must say the honorable, the honorable Sean Barrow.
Speaker 3: Clap it up for that.
Speaker 5: So this is a conversation that I'm extremely excited about.
Speaker 5: We're going to talk about finance, We're going to talk
Speaker 5: about his journey, were going to talk about politics, We're
Speaker 5: going to talk about world politics, crypto, all of that stuff.
Speaker 3: So huh oh, all my beliefs.
Speaker 2: We got some believes in the If you believes, it
Speaker 2: makes no noise.
Speaker 7: Now, we got some brothers over here, shout out to you.
Speaker 7: We believe.
Speaker 5: There's three one a head, two here and Shine. So
Speaker 5: I need you to get on your feet. I need
Speaker 5: you to get on your feet.
Speaker 3: Please.
Speaker 5: This is something that's extremely and poorant for us, poort
Speaker 5: for us. And welcome my brother Shine Narrow, the honorable
Speaker 5: Shine Barrol.
Speaker 4: Not so many people want to fuck with us. And
Speaker 4: look your son snitches.
Speaker 3: All right, take your seat.
Speaker 4: Like what I'm saying, I'm telling them when my father
Speaker 4: busting and loaded me.
Speaker 3: Think you just that's the vibe that.
Speaker 8: I like.
Speaker 5: I like how she blended that out in the Trump
Speaker 5: Very good. All right, So here's the deal, ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 5: We got a lot of good information for you guys today.
Speaker 5: We're gonna do this legendary interview. After that we're gonna
Speaker 5: have a performance. Then we're gonna bring my brother Ian
Speaker 5: dunlap out. He shout out to Ian, shout out to
Speaker 5: Red pen. That's a fact.
Speaker 3: So it's only one thing that we ask of you, guys.
Speaker 3: That's it. It's free.
Speaker 5: Everything is you know, there's no charge to come in here.
Speaker 5: There's good hospitalities, good vibes. You can network whatever you want.
Speaker 5: But during the time that we're speaking, please please try
Speaker 5: to be quiet. That's the only thing that we ask
Speaker 5: if you guys, and shout out to my brother might
Speaker 5: started to make a mallory before I forget.
Speaker 3: Thank you for your advocacy, Thank you for joining us.
Speaker 3: I appreciate you.
Speaker 5: All Right, let's get into this, Shine, the honorable, the
Speaker 5: honorable Shine Arrow. This is like, it's not enough time.
Speaker 5: I feel like this needs to be a five part series.
Speaker 5: Your life story is so amazing, you know, so I
Speaker 5: want to talk about the political aspect of it, but
Speaker 5: I want to start at the beginning. When did you
Speaker 5: actually realize that you had a talent for music and
Speaker 5: when did you actually start to pursue that Because when
Speaker 5: I first heard of you, everybody was saying like, this
Speaker 5: is the new big that was the buzz in New York,
Speaker 5: And when I heard it was a bit in war
Speaker 5: for you, and then I heard the music and it
Speaker 5: was like it was just like something I hadn't heard before.
Speaker 3: So when did that start? As far as the musical side.
Speaker 4: You know, I always love music. My father was a
Speaker 4: DJ before he became a politician. So we always have
Speaker 4: a joke in the family that, you know, I got
Speaker 4: something on him that I'm actually a successful music and
Speaker 4: he failed. But you know, I love music, you know,
Speaker 4: ever since I came out of the wound. You know,
Speaker 4: I used to write poems. I used to write poetry,
Speaker 4: you know, because I you know, I thought I was
Speaker 4: a casting over when I was a young kid, and
Speaker 4: so you know, my path to a young woman's heart
Speaker 4: was to charm her with you know, my lexicon and
Speaker 4: my wordplay. So that was my first four way into
Speaker 4: you know, music first is writing poetry. But you know
Speaker 4: I love music. I love Bob Mally, you know, really
Speaker 4: reggae music. It's my first love. And for those you know,
Speaker 4: true uh hip hop heads, they'll confess that, you know,
Speaker 4: cool Her he's the Jamaican DJE that moved moved to
Speaker 4: the Bronx and took the sound system from Jamaica. And
Speaker 4: you know that's how hip hop started. So yeah, so
Speaker 4: I used to listen to like Shaba Ranks and super
Speaker 4: Cat and you know yellow Man and all the great
Speaker 4: Jaman Yes, all the great uh DJs, and like KRS
Speaker 4: one was very, very influential because you know when he
Speaker 4: came out with the Bridges Over that had that whole
Speaker 4: reggae you know five that was like a reggae song.
Speaker 4: So so I always love music, but I never necessarily
Speaker 4: wanted to be a rapper. Just love music. But you know,
Speaker 4: when I was in the streets, as most young inner
Speaker 4: city you are in the streets because they have no alternatives.
Speaker 4: There's a systematic design for young inner city males, brown
Speaker 4: and black to you know, go down the path of
Speaker 4: destruction that leads to jail or incarceration. You know, music
Speaker 4: saved my life. You know, I was listening to music
Speaker 4: for therapy, for escape, you know, to stay inside and
Speaker 4: and stay away from dodging bullets and shooting bullets. So
Speaker 4: I would just you know, listen to music. And that's
Speaker 4: when I really started to develop the notion that I
Speaker 4: could actually contribute something to the art form of wrath.
Speaker 2: So the first song on your debut album, so I
Speaker 2: think the first time I heard you was on a
Speaker 2: total remix. But then when when when I heard they're
Speaker 2: America write that first bar at their America. Look at
Speaker 2: what you made me? Young, black and crazy? Yeah, please
Speaker 2: save me? Yeah the police saved me.
Speaker 4: Part.
Speaker 8: What was your vision? What did you right?
Speaker 2: Because you were born in Belize and moved to Brooklyn,
Speaker 2: So when you said America, please save me? What was
Speaker 2: the vision there that it was something you wanted to
Speaker 2: see change at that time?
Speaker 8: Going on?
Speaker 4: I came to the United States of America when I
Speaker 4: was about eight years old, and I lived with my mom.
Speaker 4: My mom was a you know, low, low income, working
Speaker 4: class woman, and you know, she had to work so
Speaker 4: hard that I was always by myself. You know, most
Speaker 4: immigrants that come to the United States from Jamaica, from Haiti,
Speaker 4: from Belize, they you know, do housekeeping and babysitting, and
Speaker 4: so she spent all her time taking care of other
Speaker 4: people's children, and I was on my own. And I
Speaker 4: wouldn't say that I was a bad kid, you know
Speaker 4: that That's how I got the name Sean because I
Speaker 4: was dark, because I had to be dark, you know,
Speaker 4: I was. I'm a lion, but I don't necessarily believe
Speaker 4: in eating gazelles. You know, if you if you do
Speaker 4: the history of mankind, there was a time in the
Speaker 4: gardener eating where lions and gazelles and everybody were one.
Speaker 4: And that's my mentality. You know, I don't I'm not
Speaker 4: a predator, but I grew up with predators, and so
Speaker 4: I wasn't going to be a gazelle. I was going
Speaker 4: to be a lion. And if somebody was gonna get eaten,
Speaker 4: it wasn't gonna be me. And so my mentality was
Speaker 4: always there should be an alternative. This shouldn't be the
Speaker 4: way that we live. You know, we should be able
Speaker 4: to grow up and evolve and you know, have for
Speaker 4: one ks and you know, you know, get married and
Speaker 4: you know, get a mortgage, and you know, take vacations
Speaker 4: and be the best versions of ourselves. But kids growing up,
Speaker 4: you know, in my generation, and I'm sure in this generation,
Speaker 4: that's not necessarily a reality. You know, the reality is
Speaker 4: jail in early Gray. So I was crying out because
Speaker 4: that's not who I wanted to be, and I wasn't
Speaker 4: ashamed of that, you know. You know, I know your
Speaker 4: theme song isnas That's one of my heroes. You know
Speaker 4: him and people like Ray Kwan and Ghost Face and
Speaker 4: Wu Tang, they had that same message like they were
Speaker 4: talking about reality. It was their reality. But that doesn't
Speaker 4: mean that's what we wanted to be. You know, we
Speaker 4: don't necessarily want to sell the narcotics that you know,
Speaker 4: certain agencies put into our communities to destroy our communities.
Speaker 4: But we have no other choice because you know, we
Speaker 4: feel that we're going to starve. You know, we can't
Speaker 4: get jobs. They burned down our business. You know, remember
Speaker 4: Black Wall Street. We can't get loans at the bank.
Speaker 4: You know, there's so many obstacles to having a healthy,
Speaker 4: normal life. So when I say saved me, you know
Speaker 4: it was a true crime that you know, it could
Speaker 4: be better and the legislators could make it better.
Speaker 3: Let me let me ask you this as far as
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 5: Obviously the incident in the club and you get sentenced
Speaker 5: to ten years in jail and Clinton Max. So that's
Speaker 5: you and the belly of the Beast right talking about
Speaker 5: overcoming adversity. Like to see you now to where you
Speaker 5: were at that point in time, it's an amazing transformation mentally.
Speaker 5: What was you going through during that ten year time
Speaker 5: and being incarcerated, and how were you able to come
Speaker 5: out and not only just keep your sanity, but to actually,
Speaker 5: you know, move forward, change your life.
Speaker 4: You know, the way the architect of the universe designs
Speaker 4: human beings is to withstand anything. I think we're all indestructible.
Speaker 4: Everybody in this audience has what I have inside of me,
Speaker 4: and it's just a matter of finding it. And so
Speaker 4: I went through different phases of my life's journey that
Speaker 4: allowed me to develop the durability to withstand that ultimate pain.
Speaker 4: Because I wouldn't wish incarceration on my worst enemy. It's
Speaker 4: nothing worse other than being bedridden in the hospital. But
Speaker 4: I come from a country Belize, you know where I
Speaker 4: grew up in a house where we didn't even have
Speaker 4: a toilet system. So that's how I grew up. So
Speaker 4: to go from that to the United States was an improvement.
Speaker 4: To go from Brooklyn, Flatbush Church Avenue, New Kirk, Little Haiti,
Speaker 4: you know, the most dangerous, challenging places on planet Earth
Speaker 4: to go from there and to escape incarceration and to
Speaker 4: escape death. I was a superhero. You know that that
Speaker 4: wasn't my my destiny. Uh So to have been able
Speaker 4: to do that and to you know, get signed to
Speaker 4: bad Boy. Uh to put out a number one rap
Speaker 4: album and to overcome that prepared me for whatever I
Speaker 4: would face in life, because it's not probable. Everybody wanted
Speaker 4: to wrap back then. But we didn't have you know,
Speaker 4: the Internet, we didn't have United Masters, We didn't have
Speaker 4: all these platforms that would allow you know, unknown artists
Speaker 4: to break through. So to go from a kid, you know,
Speaker 4: in a single pair at home, mom is poor, you know,
Speaker 4: nobody there to help UH to you know, I got
Speaker 4: I think I got the biggest record deal for new
Speaker 4: artists ever. You know, I came into the music industry
Speaker 4: making history a million it's more than that. But but
Speaker 4: I did that against all odds. I had no help,
Speaker 4: you know, Like my friends used to tell me, you're
Speaker 4: wasting your time. You know. My mom, you know, told me,
Speaker 4: you know, son, like you know, why did you drop
Speaker 4: out of university? Like she cried to me, like you're
Speaker 4: breaking my heart. Like if you're not gonna make it
Speaker 4: a music, nobody makes it a music.
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Speaker 4: But I knew that I could make it in music,
Speaker 4: and I made it. So you know, God is real,
Speaker 4: whatever you want to call it, the architect of the universe,
Speaker 4: intelligence designer, and there is a divine source that you know,
Speaker 4: GUIDs everything on this planet. So if I did it once,
Speaker 4: I could do it again. And you know, I think
Speaker 4: it was harder to go from Brooklyn, you know, single mother,
Speaker 4: you know, impoverished, household too, you know, millionaire rap star
Speaker 4: signed to the biggest record label in the world. Like,
Speaker 4: that's that's mission impossible. So to do that, that's it.
Speaker 4: After that, there's nothing that I can't do. And I
Speaker 4: thank God for that invincibility that I was gifted with. So,
Speaker 4: you know, going to Clinton Denamora and going through the incarceration,
Speaker 4: I rely on. You know, I'm I'm I'm not a
Speaker 4: religious person, but my name is Moses. And you know Moses,
Speaker 4: you know, you got the Five Books, whatever your religion is,
Speaker 4: it's the Old Testament for Jews, you know, they call
Speaker 4: it the Torah. You know. So one of the things
Speaker 4: that I have always had was this gift of just
Speaker 4: divine invincibility. I could do anything. And so once I
Speaker 4: did it once and I understood the science, however, the
Speaker 4: divine science work, I knew that I could apply that again.
Speaker 4: And so in the in the Five Books of Moses,
Speaker 4: there's a part that says when the Israelites, the Jews,
Speaker 4: when they're going through the Red Sea, and they got
Speaker 4: through the Red Sea and they're in the desert, they
Speaker 4: say to God, you know what, man, we don't need
Speaker 4: anything else, just the fact that you took us out
Speaker 4: of Egypt. That's enough. You took us through the Red Sea,
Speaker 4: that's enough. You gave us a fire by night to
Speaker 4: keep us warm, and you know you let us through
Speaker 4: all these scorpions and all these snakes. That's enough, they say, Diano.
Speaker 4: So what God did for me? Going from Belize where
Speaker 4: I didn't even have a toilet system and my mother
Speaker 4: was a poor teacher. We came to the United States,
Speaker 4: she was a housekeeper, then became a receptionist with a
Speaker 4: little bit of nothing, and I was able to become
Speaker 4: a multi millionaire, put our number one rap albums and
Speaker 4: get nominated for Grammys. So like, what more could I
Speaker 4: ask God for? So, you know, I wasn't entitled. I
Speaker 4: didn't feel like I deserved anything. I got the hand
Speaker 4: and I played the hand, and I played the hand
Speaker 4: before and I was successful. So I just asked God
Speaker 4: to continue to give me the wisdom and durability because
Speaker 4: we're gonna have challenges. Everybody in this room, everybody on
Speaker 4: this planet is going to have challenges. Alon Musk has challenges,
Speaker 4: Jeff Bezos has challenges, Kanye West has challenges. You just
Speaker 4: have to endure those challenges and figure out the science
Speaker 4: to navigate your challenges. So you know, I thank God
Speaker 4: for being able to figure that out.
Speaker 2: I told you, yeah, clap it up with that. I
Speaker 2: told you this backstage and I said, look like you
Speaker 2: were my god. You've always been my god.
Speaker 4: Thank you.
Speaker 2: That's a fact, right, Like I remember twenty years ago
Speaker 2: being in the mirror trying to rap like you.
Speaker 8: Thank you, dressing up like you.
Speaker 2: One of the things that over the course of time
Speaker 2: is your level of integrity, right has never waivered. I
Speaker 2: told you I still got the double xcel cover when
Speaker 2: it was death before the Sauna and it still is
Speaker 2: right and even Sean's the realist rapper alive.
Speaker 7: And so you said mom wasn't around. I know your
Speaker 7: dad wasn't. Believeze, Where did we get this moral ethic? Cold,
Speaker 7: where we get this integrity from? Where was it built for?
Speaker 4: You know? My grandmother, God bless her soul. I was
Speaker 4: very close to her. She's a garridt from a woman
Speaker 4: uh Africans that very resilient throughout Latin America. And yeah,
Speaker 4: she she was very close to me and instilled a
Speaker 4: lot of those integrity and ideas and you know, the
Speaker 4: moral compassed that I had yeah, and you know, I
Speaker 4: think I think you are who you are. I think
Speaker 4: for me, it's not who I am, but how will
Speaker 4: I use who I am to empower humanity? So it's
Speaker 4: not about being great, but it's about how do you
Speaker 4: use your greatness to make other people great? But to
Speaker 4: impact the planet, not to impact your community, or your
Speaker 4: state or your country. So I think, you know, certain
Speaker 4: people are wired and designed to change the planet, to
Speaker 4: change their country, to change their surroundings. And you know,
Speaker 4: so that's how I was wired. I'm thankful that I
Speaker 4: was able to find that.
Speaker 9: You know.
Speaker 4: Again, I encourage everyone to find their greatness is there,
Speaker 4: it's inside of you. But you know, some of us
Speaker 4: are afraid, some of us get distracted, but you could
Speaker 4: find it.
Speaker 5: So let me ask you this because I want to
Speaker 5: jump into this crypto conversation. It's very rare that we
Speaker 5: speak to politicians. But you're not only a politician, you're
Speaker 5: a world leader. So your neighbor, yes, your Central American
Speaker 5: navor El Salvador made news by buying seven hundred big
Speaker 5: coins see bigcoin is a legal tender currency there and
Speaker 5: they have a plan to finance a billion dollars of
Speaker 5: infrastructure using bitcoin and cryptocurrency. So my first question is
Speaker 5: what's your thoughts on that, and is that something that
Speaker 5: your country or other countries in the region, all over
Speaker 5: the world can duplicate to catch up to the superpowers.
Speaker 4: You know, I'm a very bold and aggressive leader, so
Speaker 4: certainly I would be prepared to examine the benefits of
Speaker 4: you know, that path. You know, certainly to develop believes
Speaker 4: you know, we have to have all options on the table,
Speaker 4: so we'd have to look and see how that works
Speaker 4: for Ol Salvador and you know, study how it's working
Speaker 4: for other countries. But certainly I'm open to that. I
Speaker 4: do believe that is that is the now, not just
Speaker 4: the future. You know, it's what's smoothing the world.
Speaker 2: So when you when you got released, right and you
Speaker 2: were deported from the country, a country that you grew
Speaker 2: up in. I mean obviously you're born in Belize but
Speaker 2: raised in Brooklyn, and then you're deported, At what time
Speaker 2: do you decide that you know what politics is going
Speaker 2: to be my new passion. Politics is where I'm supposed
Speaker 2: to be because I know your dad obviously was the
Speaker 2: prime minister, and so when you're looking at him as
Speaker 2: the guy that's like, you know what, I'm not following
Speaker 2: my fat my dad's for sess, but that is an
Speaker 2: avenue if I would like to explore. What was it
Speaker 2: that triggered you to say, you know what, politics is
Speaker 2: my route now?
Speaker 4: No, no, you know, I always wanted to be Bob Marley.
Speaker 4: I never wanted to be a politician. I always wanted
Speaker 4: to be a prophet. I wanted to change the world,
Speaker 4: you know. I wanted to bring light to the world
Speaker 4: and just transform the world. And uh, but you know, politicians, legislators,
Speaker 4: they have a special power. And you know, when I
Speaker 4: visited Belize, there was a senator by the name of
Speaker 4: Julia Timborough and I was living in Paris at the time,
Speaker 4: and she said to me, she said, listen, our country
Speaker 4: is going through a transition, and the leaders in this country,
Speaker 4: at least for the most part, they only care about themselves.
Speaker 4: They only want to enrich themselves and their families and
Speaker 4: their cronies. And you you know, you're a multi millionaire,
Speaker 4: your friends are billionaires. You're not going to be a
Speaker 4: politician to get rich. You're not going to use the
Speaker 4: taxpayers dollars, you know, to take care of your self interests.
Speaker 4: You'd be the perfect type of leader. Like what are
Speaker 4: you talking about? I'm I'm a musician, you know, I'm
Speaker 4: an artists into the fine arts, my entrepreneur. You know,
Speaker 4: I do some investments, not necessarily interested in politics, but leadership,
Speaker 4: you know, leadership is important. And you know, there was
Speaker 4: a void and there still is a void. And I'm
Speaker 4: a leader. You know, I come from a family of leaders.
Speaker 4: But I wasn't looking at my father because I surpassed
Speaker 4: him in music, you know, Grammy nominations, forty million records,
Speaker 4: sol written, you know, publisher, performer. So for me, it
Speaker 4: was like politics was like down down there, like what
Speaker 4: are we doing? Yeah, but that's politics. Leadership is up
Speaker 4: here because leadership is my name. My name is Moses.
Speaker 4: And Moses was a leader. And you know, Moses was
Speaker 4: a shepherd. And Moses used to take the sheep that
Speaker 4: you know, were hurt, and he would carry them on
Speaker 4: his back and take them to get water. Right. So
Speaker 4: I'm a leader. I'm not a politician. So I'm here
Speaker 4: to lead my people. I'm here to transform their lives time.
Speaker 4: I'm here to empower them. You know, when I hear
Speaker 4: about financial literacy, I couldn't believe that there's a platform,
Speaker 4: you know, trying to instill these virtues in our people.
Speaker 4: So that's what got me into pursuing being a legislator,
Speaker 4: you know, not to be a politician, but to fulfill
Speaker 4: my purpose to be a leader and a world leader,
Speaker 4: you know, because I have friends in Africa, I have
Speaker 4: friends in the United States that are legislators, and what
Speaker 4: I do in Belize people are watching, so I could
Speaker 4: lead the world from Belize.
Speaker 5: So recently Barbados, I've seen that you you had a
Speaker 5: sport for Barbados, which they recently transitioned away from the
Speaker 5: UK monarchy system right into their own constitutional republic. What
Speaker 5: does that actually mean, because I'm not can show what
Speaker 5: it actually means. And is that something that you know
Speaker 5: other countries in the region can duplicate.
Speaker 4: Well, let me just acknowledge all my Haitians here today, Haiti, Haiti, Haiti.
Speaker 4: You know, I love Haiti. I love Haiti so much
Speaker 4: because Haiti's the first black republic in the Caribbean. Haiti's
Speaker 4: the first independent nation, the real true independent nation in
Speaker 4: the Caribbean. Here Toussaint was the leader that led that
Speaker 4: revolution and he defeated the French drove him out of Haiti,
Speaker 4: and they became the first independent nation in the Caribbean.
Speaker 4: And they've paid a hefty price for it. So God
Speaker 4: bless Haiti, and you know, forever love and salute Haiti.
Speaker 4: But all the other Caribbean nations never had that type
Speaker 4: of courage that the Haitians had, and they saw how
Speaker 4: the French, you know, the French made the Haitians pay
Speaker 4: like two hundred billion or four hundred billion dollars for
Speaker 4: their freedom. And right now we're in the midst of
Speaker 4: taking the United Kingdom to court for reparations because as
Speaker 4: we know in Belize, as we know, you know, the
Speaker 4: trans Atlantic slave atrocity holocaust is one of the worst
Speaker 4: things that have ever happened in humanity. And so you know,
Speaker 4: the United Kingdom, you know, committed you know, the worst
Speaker 4: crimes against humanity. So there's nothing glorious about the queen
Speaker 4: as our head of state in any nation in the Caribbean,
Speaker 4: that's our land. They extracted our wealth, they killed us,
Speaker 4: they raped us, They you know, just castigated and castrated
Speaker 4: our people, so that there's nothing glorious about it. And
Speaker 4: you know, I want to acknowledge Prince Charles who said
Speaker 4: everything that I'm saying right now. They invited him to
Speaker 4: the ceremony for Barbados becoming a republic and he said,
Speaker 4: you know, yeah, slavery is one of the stains of
Speaker 4: our history and it was atrocious and he didn't need
Speaker 4: to tell me that. And I hope that Belize will
Speaker 4: follow in the footsteps of Barbados. I know Jamaica's taken
Speaker 4: steps to do that, but removing the Queen is of
Speaker 4: the head as the head of state is something that's
Speaker 4: long overdue, and becoming a republic just means that, you know,
Speaker 4: you're no longer you have no affiliation with the United
Speaker 4: Kingdom and your former colonial masters.
Speaker 5: So country is already an independent country, but they were
Speaker 5: still kind of under.
Speaker 4: The flag of real mafia, criminal organization type mentality that Okay,
Speaker 4: I'll let you have the block, but you know, you
Speaker 4: still got to check in with me. It's not democracy,
Speaker 4: that's not freedom, that's not humanity. That shouldn't have happened
Speaker 4: in the first place. You shouldn't have took us from
Speaker 4: Africa in the first place. You owe us, We don't
Speaker 4: owe you. We don't owe you any type of acknowledgment
Speaker 4: of recognition right.
Speaker 2: So yeah, speaking of democracy, I know that's something that
Speaker 2: you obviously you fight for for your country.
Speaker 4: So your role, yeah, say hello to all the Cubans too,
Speaker 4: because I'm big on democracy in Cuba. It's very important. So, yeah,
Speaker 4: you got to get rid of the dictatorships.
Speaker 2: Your role was the leader of You were the thirteenth
Speaker 2: leader of the opposition before.
Speaker 4: I was fortunate to be elected the thirteenth opposition leader
Speaker 4: of the House of Representatives.
Speaker 2: And believe so for most people that are looking like
Speaker 2: the thirteenth opposition leader, can you to tell, you.
Speaker 4: Know, like the Nancy Pelosi or Chuck Schumer for the
Speaker 4: United States obviously for the Congress.
Speaker 2: So in that role, what are you doing specifically, right,
Speaker 2: because obviously you're the minority leader. What's getting past through
Speaker 2: you are the things that you obviously can put implement.
Speaker 8: What's the role that you played?
Speaker 4: I'm leading U, you know everything.
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Speaker 4: On my lap and you know I carry carry my
Speaker 4: colleagues and support my colleagues and help them to be
Speaker 4: the best versions of them themselves. And you know, follow
Speaker 4: the vision that will uplift and empower our people and
Speaker 4: fight for our people. You know, accountability is important. That
Speaker 4: that's what democracy is. People have to have an alternative,
Speaker 4: be able to say, you know what, I don't like
Speaker 4: what the blue is doing, so I'm going to vote
Speaker 4: the red. Or I don't like what the red is doing,
Speaker 4: so I'm going to vote the blue. So you know,
Speaker 4: while you're in opposition, you know, you fight to advance
Speaker 4: the platforms that the people to make sure that what
Speaker 4: the government that has been elected make sure that they're
Speaker 4: doing what they promise the people.
Speaker 5: Let me let me ask you this as far as reparations,
Speaker 5: something that we really haven't talked too much about on
Speaker 5: the platform. So you say your country, you're planning on
Speaker 5: taking UK to court.
Speaker 4: We just you know, there's a lawyer by the name
Speaker 4: of Godfrey Smith. He is on the team of lawyers
Speaker 4: for Jamaica that have taken the United Kingdom to court
Speaker 4: for reparations. So, you know, when I was the leader
Speaker 4: of the opposition, he approached me, he approached the Prime
Speaker 4: Minister of Belieze and he said, listen, you know, we'd
Speaker 4: like your support to pass the reparations motions in the
Speaker 4: House to demand that you know, the UK pay what
Speaker 4: they owe. Believe you know, they paid the slave owners
Speaker 4: billions of dollars and they gave those who were stolen
Speaker 4: and enslaved nothing. So he asked that, you know, we
Speaker 4: passed the motion together bipartisan, and I agreed, and and
Speaker 4: so now they're going to proceed with taking the United
Speaker 4: Kingdom to court. So that is in motion. We've already
Speaker 4: passed the motion in the House of Representatives in Belize
Speaker 4: and now we're going to proceed with the litigation.
Speaker 5: Is there a certain dollar amount or to be determined
Speaker 5: that you're asking.
Speaker 4: For, you know, I think Bob Johnson has it at
Speaker 4: one point three trillion dollars in the United States and
Speaker 4: the Caribbean, I think totally in Belize. You know, I'm
Speaker 4: not sure. I think it'd probably be maybe fifty ye
Speaker 4: maybe one hundred, one hundred million.
Speaker 5: I think what's your what's your thoughts on reparations in America.
Speaker 5: You know, if you listen to the Sean albums, Yeah,
Speaker 5: I'm going there. That's how That's how it ended. The
Speaker 5: intro reparations is due due.
Speaker 4: It's due, grammatically incorrect, and y'all gonna pay. So I
Speaker 4: said that as a nineteen year old child, so as
Speaker 4: a forty three year old world leaders, it's long overdue.
Speaker 4: And you know, I've spoken to my colleagues and the
Speaker 4: House of Representatives here in America, Congressman Meeks and Senator
Speaker 4: Chuck Schumer and Congressman Maxie Waters, and you know, so
Speaker 4: I believe within the next six or twelve months you're
Speaker 4: going to see legislation passed in the House and the Senate.
Speaker 8: Nineteen year old shots.
Speaker 4: You guys got to get out there and vote. You've
Speaker 4: got midterms coming up. So you don't want you don't
Speaker 4: want things to you don't want things to get worse.
Speaker 4: You want to go back four years. I want to
Speaker 4: get into your politics, but I'll vote, vote for the
Speaker 4: people that are going to forward reparations. That's all I
Speaker 4: gotta say.
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna go back to the debut because then
Speaker 2: we spoke about that line where you said, look, if
Speaker 2: y'all build schools instead of prisons, I'm living.
Speaker 4: He said, it takes me a craft or a trade.
Speaker 8: Maybe don't. Maybe I'll go off for balls.
Speaker 7: Don't.
Speaker 4: Maybe get up here and start that.
Speaker 8: NAT.
Speaker 2: But you so you said that at nineteen and obviously
Speaker 2: you were talking about where your conditions in Brooklyn. But
Speaker 2: now listening to that line and knowing what you're seeing
Speaker 2: in Belize as a forty year old leader, can you
Speaker 2: talk about the progression or lack thereof for that same
Speaker 2: environment that you were talking about.
Speaker 4: Then, you know, believee is different from the United States,
Speaker 4: whereas we're developing nation and it's sad that even a
Speaker 4: developed nation had those issues. So imagine what we're going through.
Speaker 4: I'd like to acknowledge my my little brother, Stephen Victor,
Speaker 4: who's a vice president of Universal Music Group, who just
Speaker 4: donated one hundred thousand dollars to Belize for education. He
Speaker 4: has a Steven Victor Education Fund. So that's a big
Speaker 4: problem in Belize due to financing. You know, the legislators
Speaker 4: would prefer to spend money on fixing roads, which we
Speaker 4: do need. We need infrastructure, we need streets, we need roads.
Speaker 4: But before we get to roads and streets that we
Speaker 4: can navigate. We need children who are educated, because children
Speaker 4: who are educated, we'll be in a position to create
Speaker 4: wealth that can pay for those roads and streets. So
Speaker 4: it's a matter of priority. If you have a dollar,
Speaker 4: you know you spend that on food that can feed
Speaker 4: your family and not on getting a drink at the bar.
Speaker 4: So you know, the government now has in my view,
Speaker 4: not prioritizing government's past. You know, they borrowed money. There's
Speaker 4: nothing wrong with borrowing money, but they've spent billions of
Speaker 4: dollars on things that can generate wealth for them and
Speaker 4: their families, whereas we should have invested in education and healthcare,
Speaker 4: making sure that you know, our people are healthy and
Speaker 4: educated and our country will develop. So certainly, as a leader,
Speaker 4: those are my priorities, education and health.
Speaker 5: So how do you feel about government regulation as far
Speaker 5: as the business, because I feel like we live in
Speaker 5: New York, right, so they have done a tremendous job
Speaker 5: to make business hard for entrepreneurs, and this is why
Speaker 5: a lot of people are leaving New York. And I
Speaker 5: feel like too much from an involvement in a private sector,
Speaker 5: it's problematic. What do you this is a business platform.
Speaker 5: We champion business. What do you feel about that? As
Speaker 5: far as government, what do you think government's involvement should
Speaker 5: be in a private sector.
Speaker 4: I believe in balance. I believe in balance. I certainly
Speaker 4: don't believe in over regulation. But I don't believe that
Speaker 4: we should deregulate to a point where the biggest corporations
Speaker 4: don't help to solve the social issues that we have. Right,
Speaker 4: somebody has to pay for education, somebody has to pay
Speaker 4: for healthcare. It shouldn't be the hard working people like
Speaker 4: my mom that was making a certain amount of money
Speaker 4: that we you know, insignificant. So I don't believe in
Speaker 4: over regulating the business community. I believe in finding ways
Speaker 4: to help the business community, not finding ways to stop
Speaker 4: the business community or to you know, have a bureaucratic quagmire.
Speaker 4: But to make sure the flow of business is fluent.
Speaker 4: Let's get it done. But I do agree with the
Speaker 4: current president of the United States that you know, you
Speaker 4: got to be good corporate citizens, and you know, those
Speaker 4: people that are making the most money need to pay
Speaker 4: for that. Young shine that doesn't want to be a
Speaker 4: gang banger, doesn't want to be a dope dealer, wants
Speaker 4: to go to school, you know, wants to live a
Speaker 4: productive life. Who's going to pay for him or her
Speaker 4: to go to school. Somebody has to pay for that,
Speaker 4: and it shouldn't be the people that are making, you know,
Speaker 4: just enough to get by. So that's my only issue
Speaker 4: with the business community. I believe that they should not
Speaker 4: be over regulated. Government should have a passion and a
Speaker 4: desire to make business easy to do anywhere.
Speaker 2: So obviously you were the thirteenth leader of the opposite
Speaker 2: is the goal to eventually be prime minister of the country.
Speaker 2: Is that where we're headed in terms of leadership or
Speaker 2: are we gonna you know, we're saying where we're at,
Speaker 2: we like where you're at now, or you want to
Speaker 2: have the ultimate leadership?
Speaker 4: And you know, I had this conversation with my friend
Speaker 4: when I was Washington, d C. And you know, she
Speaker 4: was telling me about bureaucracy, and I said, you know,
Speaker 4: I'm hip hop. I don't do bureaucracy. I could do anything, like,
Speaker 4: there's no no in hip hop. We can do anything
Speaker 4: like look, you know, happy birthday to my good friend
Speaker 4: Sean Carter.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, heavy birthday to you know.
Speaker 4: Who went from a Mossie Kid, you know, to creating
Speaker 4: not just himself as a billionaire, but two other billionaires
Speaker 4: and Kanye and Rihanna. That's hip hop, like we do anything.
Speaker 4: So for me, you know, being the Prime Minister is
Speaker 4: not if, but when. And it's not about being the
Speaker 4: Prime Minister to have a title as to the Prime Minister,
Speaker 4: because I was I'm already a Grammy Award winning writer, publisher, producer.
Speaker 4: I'm not into titles. It's what comes with being the
Speaker 4: Prime Minister of beliefs and the change that I could make,
Speaker 4: the revolutionary change that I could make two a make
Speaker 4: up for the hundreds of years of slavery and the
Speaker 4: hundreds of years of my people not being taught to
Speaker 4: be entrepreneurs, not being taught to be landowners, not being
Speaker 4: taught to have families because the slave owners used to
Speaker 4: come and rape o women and you know have all
Speaker 4: of our wives as their sweethearts. So that's all we
Speaker 4: know how to do. That's where pimp culture comes from, right,
Speaker 4: So as Prime Minister, I can you know, reverse all
Speaker 4: the damage of you know, our people being enslaved and
Speaker 4: set my people to be the next Shines, the next
Speaker 4: jay Z's, the next whatever they want to be, because
Speaker 4: I don't want to get rich to be a politician.
Speaker 4: I don't want to say, oh, I'm the Prime Minister
Speaker 4: of Belieze. I'm good. I want to say that this
Speaker 4: is what I did for believes. I created a bunch
Speaker 4: of entrepreneurs. I created people who are financially literate. I
Speaker 4: created you know, great family men and women. I created
Speaker 4: healthy boys and girls. I want to be able to
Speaker 4: brag about that the next.
Speaker 5: Forty years, sounding very presidential.
Speaker 3: He's good, he's good.
Speaker 4: So who's the other politician you want to interview?
Speaker 5: Well, we can't turn down Obama can't turn down. So
Speaker 5: let me ask you this conflict resolution is something that
Speaker 5: we struggle with a lot in our community, mending differences.
Speaker 3: So you and Diddy on good terms? Wasn't always on
Speaker 3: good terms?
Speaker 4: Did?
Speaker 3: How did you and Diddy mend that relationship?
Speaker 5: And what made you actually want to say, Okay, this
Speaker 5: is a relationship that's actually worth mending.
Speaker 4: You know, I think it is African American men in particular.
Speaker 4: You know, Latinos super as African American men. We have
Speaker 4: been conditioned since the plantation to hate each other and
Speaker 4: to destroy each other. And you know, part of my evolution,
Speaker 4: part of my healing. I can't carry twenty four years
Speaker 4: of pain and hurt with me. I wouldn't be here
Speaker 4: right now if I was holding on to that. That's baggage.
Speaker 4: I got to shake that, and I gotta keep going.
Speaker 4: And you know, Diddy's my brother. He was my brother,
Speaker 4: He is my brother. Now you're my brother, all of you.
Speaker 4: You're my brothers and sisters. I don't even know y'all.
Speaker 4: And Diddy, you know, gave me an opportunity that changed
Speaker 4: my life forever. And so I prefer to look at
Speaker 4: the positive in my brother because we've been conditioned to
Speaker 4: hate our brothers and sisters for so long that I
Speaker 4: want to condition myself and us to love. Let's find
Speaker 4: the good in our brothers and sisters. Yeah I could.
Speaker 4: I could find a million things wrong with Ditty. I
Speaker 4: want to find the things that's right with him. And
Speaker 4: so I focused on the positivity, and I focused on myself.
Speaker 4: You know, I like to acknowledge my other little brother
Speaker 4: of Stephen Carlos, that the president you call him Steve,
Speaker 4: I called him Stephen Carlos, that he's the president of
Speaker 4: you know, President Warner Music. My other protege. You know,
Speaker 4: we're working on a documentary, a movie, TV series about
Speaker 4: my life, and you know, different studios have approached me
Speaker 4: put money on the table, but they want to tell
Speaker 4: the Shine Hates Ditty story, and I say, you know,
Speaker 4: keep your money. I'm not interested in that. I'm not
Speaker 4: interested in that because it can't be wrong when you know,
Speaker 4: the Caucasian nails on George Floyd's neck and takes his life.
Speaker 4: But when we kill each other, it's okay. You know,
Speaker 4: when when somebody that looks like young Dolf kill it
Speaker 4: was young Dolf, that's not okay. It's not okay for
Speaker 4: us to hate each other, you know. So that that's
Speaker 4: really what drove the healing process with Diddy and I.
Speaker 4: And again, I'm just focused on myself. I'm not focused
Speaker 4: on other people. I don't have time for that. There's
Speaker 4: like a nation that's relying on my success in order
Speaker 4: for us to all be successful in that country. And
Speaker 4: I think, just as a world leader, that's a great
Speaker 4: example to set for other African Americans who are still
Speaker 4: caught up in a culture, a plantation culture, you know,
Speaker 4: a Reagan Bush era culture where we destroy each other.
Speaker 4: And I'm not about that. So you know, I Texteddy
Speaker 4: as soon as I got here. I'll see him tomorrow.
Speaker 4: We'll celebrate life, will celebrate black excellence, you know. And
Speaker 4: that's what we should do. We should celebrate each other,
Speaker 4: we should forgive each other. We should here and focus
Speaker 4: on the way forward.
Speaker 3: Clap it, clap it up.
Speaker 8: For that, I want to thank you and hold on.
Speaker 4: We didn't talk about the art. We can't.
Speaker 8: I personally thank you.
Speaker 4: We got to talk about this. All we gotta on
Speaker 4: the table, we got.
Speaker 8: To bring I wanted to thank you for that reconciliation.
Speaker 2: Okay, because May twentieth, twenty sixteen, Bad Boy was having
Speaker 2: his twentieth year anniversary concert for Shot It Out.
Speaker 7: Were there and we've both seen it ourselves. Man, this
Speaker 7: ain't gonna be right or shine ain't there and low
Speaker 7: and behold, screen went dark and there you go in
Speaker 7: front of a pyramid on the screen that.
Speaker 2: Said that's it, that's hip hop. So I want to
Speaker 2: person thank you for that.
Speaker 4: And also, you know what I said was generalized, but
Speaker 4: you know Diddy has been supporting me morally even financially. Yes,
Speaker 4: this is a great picture from an artist called Alex Sanker.
Speaker 4: You know, it's art Basel, so I had to bring
Speaker 4: the belize in paintings with me. He's one of our
Speaker 4: best artists. This is you know, downtown. This is on
Speaker 4: south side the Belize called Ebu Town. This is where
Speaker 4: all the Africans from Nigeria were and the south side
Speaker 4: is where all the Africans really started. That's where Belize
Speaker 4: started and that's where they stayed. The Creoles, which are
Speaker 4: the Africans that mix with the Europeans, went to the
Speaker 4: north side, but you know, the the one hundred percent
Speaker 4: Africans stayed here. And so this is Albert Street. This
Speaker 4: is the British the British on mailbox. That's a law firm.
Speaker 4: Barron Williams, one of the best in the country. Yeah
Speaker 4: so yeah, so back today. He was supporting me for
Speaker 4: for many years now, you know, not like yo, you
Speaker 4: owe me, but just listen. I have a vision for Belieze.
Speaker 4: I want to change believe I'm running for the House
Speaker 4: of Representatives. You know, I need your support. And it
Speaker 4: wasn't even a conversation. It was like, oh man, this
Speaker 4: is black excellence, like you know, just let me know
Speaker 4: what you want me to do. And so he's been
Speaker 4: doing that in however, he could do that for years,
Speaker 4: and recently the government tried to I won't say the
Speaker 4: government rogue actors in the government attempted to pass legislation
Speaker 4: to disqualify me from the House of Representatives because of
Speaker 4: what happened when I was nineteen years old, when I
Speaker 4: was convicted of defending myself and my friends. And so,
Speaker 4: you know, I reached out to Diddy and said, listen,
Speaker 4: you know, we got to start a campaign with this,
Speaker 4: and we have to create awareness because you know, this
Speaker 4: is an attack on the lower class. This is attack on
Speaker 4: all those young kids that are impoverished, that can't afford
Speaker 4: a lawyer, can't afford to get themselves, you know, through
Speaker 4: the justice system. And you know did he was there,
Speaker 4: you know, we got revoked, got you know, the publicists
Speaker 4: and said listen, let's bring attention to this. And you know,
Speaker 4: when it was time for me to travel to the
Speaker 4: United States, he made sure that whatever congressman, whatever senators
Speaker 4: he had at his disposal, he made available to me
Speaker 4: so that I could further the cause of beliefs. So
Speaker 4: those are the conversations that we were having. You know,
Speaker 4: we weren't having Oh you know what if I didn't,
Speaker 4: you know, keep my mouth shut. You done went to jail.
Speaker 4: You're worth a billion dollars now, you know I need
Speaker 4: ten percent, you know. So we weren't having those conversations.
Speaker 4: We were having it because you know that that's about me,
Speaker 4: and it's not about me. It's about beliefs, and so
Speaker 4: support believes, don't support me. And he's been very willing
Speaker 4: to support my efforts to lift up my nation. So
Speaker 4: I have to give him what credit for that?
Speaker 8: Yeah, what was the feeling like being able to come
Speaker 8: back to the United States?
Speaker 2: Clip it up with that, Yeah, for sure. I mean
Speaker 2: being goes is gone so long. What was the feeling
Speaker 2: being back in America for the first time?
Speaker 4: You know, it's never about being back in America, and
Speaker 4: it's always about believes. So I wasn't here on vacation.
Speaker 4: I wasn't here to go down memory lane. I was
Speaker 4: here to talk to Maxine Waters. I was here to
Speaker 4: talk to Congressman Gregory Meeks and Senator Schumer and you know, Congressman,
Speaker 4: that's been a lot, and all the different senators and
Speaker 4: congressmen that received me so graciously. Mayor Eric Adams, who
Speaker 4: says that he's going to make sure the business community
Speaker 4: is taken care of in New York City. That's what
Speaker 4: he said, all right. He said he's tied all the
Speaker 4: money coming to Miami in Florida. Hopefully he's gonna bring
Speaker 4: it back.
Speaker 3: So hoping.
Speaker 4: My guy Brian Benjamin, he's he's a lieutenant governor.
Speaker 5: Okay, he's pro business. Hopefully they can lower taxes too. Yeah,
Speaker 5: I gotta say hello.
Speaker 4: To my to Mika Mallory, she's he's here too, in
Speaker 4: my son. Yeah.
Speaker 5: So but Sean, let me ask you this general Momar
Speaker 5: Kadaffi had had a vision for the African Union to
Speaker 5: have a unified African dollar similar to the Euro. Uh
Speaker 5: didn't work out. Everybody knows what happened shortly after that.
Speaker 5: I say that to say, Central America, the Caribbean is
Speaker 5: any Is there any hope that one day it could
Speaker 5: be a more unified front similar to the EU, with
Speaker 5: you know, maybe one currency for a block of countries
Speaker 5: or you know, something similar to that.
Speaker 4: You know, right now we have characters. We're all the
Speaker 4: Caribbean nations all together, Barbados, Jamaica, Bahamas. Forgive me for
Speaker 4: any any Saint Vincent, the Grenadines. But certainly. That's that's
Speaker 4: that's that's practical as possible because we have character. As
Speaker 4: I said, Belize is a very unique nation and the
Speaker 4: fact that we're part of Central America and the Caribbean nations.
Speaker 4: But you know, right now, my focus is in uh
Speaker 4: directing Believee to a path of first world nation, developed nation,
Speaker 4: and I think all my energy is there. I can't
Speaker 4: get ahead of myself. I don't know that discussion is
Speaker 4: not being it's not being had right now as far
Speaker 4: as one currency. And my focus right now is making
Speaker 4: sure that Belize is the best version of herself. And
Speaker 4: we're far from there because the last forty years we've
Speaker 4: had leaders who have used Belize as a vehicle for
Speaker 4: self and Richmond. So there's a lot of work that
Speaker 4: needs to be done.
Speaker 5: When we travel over the world. In Jamaica, we see
Speaker 5: heavy Chinese influence. Nigeria, I was shocked to find out
Speaker 5: that twenty five percent of all hospitality is Lebanese. You
Speaker 5: go to every club, The Lebanese own every club in
Speaker 5: Nigeria and legos. I say that to say there's international
Speaker 5: investments in all over the world, but especially in black countries,
Speaker 5: countries of color what's your thoughts on that for beliefe
Speaker 5: And how do you feel about foreign investment? And on
Speaker 5: the flip side, a country like Ghana has welcomed African Americans.
Speaker 5: It has really helped their economy, has helped their tourism.
Speaker 5: Is that something that you want for believes.
Speaker 4: Certainly we welcome foreign investment. Uh. We support Taiwan because
Speaker 4: you know, Belize has a The Guatemalans claim Belize in
Speaker 4: some you know, colonial far fetched entitlement they felt because
Speaker 4: you know, Spain, whatever Spain surveyed and said was theirs
Speaker 4: was theirs. So Spain said Belize and entire Latin America
Speaker 4: was there, so it belonged to them, and so they
Speaker 4: believe that they inherited that colonial right. So they're claiming Belize.
Speaker 4: So I said, all letters say that Taiwan, you know,
Speaker 4: has the same thing with China where they broke away
Speaker 4: from China, and you know China, Taiwan believes they're they're
Speaker 4: the Republic of China, and then you have China China
Speaker 4: that says they're China. So we support Taiwan, and China
Speaker 4: doesn't do business with people who have diplomatic relations with
Speaker 4: thai Taiwan so I wouldn't be as Prime minister. I
Speaker 4: wouldn't be interested in breaking relations with Taiwan to establish
Speaker 4: relations with China for economic benefit, you know, because China
Speaker 4: has a terrible human rights record and I don't believe
Speaker 4: in diplomatic prostitution. You know. You talked about my integrity,
Speaker 4: my character, and my honor, and I've had that my
Speaker 4: entire life, so I shouldn't. I certainly wouldn't do that
Speaker 4: as as Prime minister. I want to be in business
Speaker 4: with the right people, and all money is in good money,
Speaker 4: so you know, I wouldn't. I don't want to put
Speaker 4: any roadblocks to anybody, but I'm not prepared to sell
Speaker 4: my soul or sell the soul of Belize to be
Speaker 4: in business with anyone.
Speaker 2: Yeah, one of the major economic engines, especially that one
Speaker 2: of the major economic engines in the Caribbean is tourism. Right,
Speaker 2: but most people never you never hear people saying we're
Speaker 2: going to Belieze. How do we get people more interested,
Speaker 2: more involved, wanting to come so that when you get
Speaker 2: that economic engine flowing through the country.
Speaker 8: Now you have money for interest uts, you have money
Speaker 8: for schools.
Speaker 7: How do we get more awitness on Belieze outside of
Speaker 7: you speaking.
Speaker 4: Well, you know you can go. There's an Instagram page
Speaker 4: called visit Belize, now Facebook called visit Belize. Uh. Now,
Speaker 4: there's a Belize tourism board. Uh. You know, there's so
Speaker 4: many direct flights to Belieze. There's a two hour flight
Speaker 4: from here to Belieze on American You know, Belieze, it's paradise.
Speaker 4: Uh So really I invite all of you to be
Speaker 4: my guests, and believe I'm a very down to earth guy,
Speaker 4: so youll see me walking around and slippings probably and
Speaker 4: just come to Belize, you know, believe it is paradise.
Speaker 4: So I told you guys to come do through the
Speaker 4: podcast definitely, and.
Speaker 7: We're bringing everybody in breaking news alert so everybody, I
Speaker 7: gotta I gotta shot.
Speaker 4: Got a group coming down I think for New Years
Speaker 4: from d C, like a group of thirty, you know,
Speaker 4: professionals in the urban community in d C. So you
Speaker 4: know that's what I'll keep doing, you know, because tourism
Speaker 4: drives our economy. So I'll keep going around the United States,
Speaker 4: keep inviting my friends. You know, I invite Diddy, I
Speaker 4: invite Fat Joe, I invite cal It, I invite everybody.
Speaker 4: And you know, over the next twelve months, you're gonna
Speaker 4: see a lot of activity happening in Belieze.
Speaker 5: So get you take suh, you're a gentleman in a
Speaker 5: scolar my brother.
Speaker 4: Thank you for having me. Oh, thank you for enduring
Speaker 4: my long winded.
Speaker 5: Respond This is this is like I said, this is
Speaker 5: the first conversation that we had with a politician and
Speaker 5: I enjoyed it.
Speaker 4: So we got a hold on. So we got to
Speaker 4: talk about these pieces. Right. So so this is a
Speaker 4: an artist by the name of Penn Kayatano. He's a
Speaker 4: grif African artist. Is the guy that got my phone?
Speaker 4: Does he is where? I don't anyway? Make sure the
Speaker 4: mail getting these pictures? Man, No, no, no, but I
Speaker 4: want you to get the pictures. Yeah. So yeah, so
Speaker 4: this is Penkayatano. These are garyful of people African people
Speaker 4: who have faced great persecution. And you know he has
Speaker 4: another piece over here. So that's a garaful of drummer.
Speaker 4: You know, drumming it's our thing.
Speaker 8: Uh.
Speaker 4: They're from dan Griga. So if you ever go to believee,
Speaker 4: visit Dan grigor. This is a Garifuna woman. She's feelings.
Speaker 4: I don't know any of you Caribbean people know about Cassava.
Speaker 4: And this is from Cayatano as well. Yeah, and this
Speaker 4: is a this is a young young artist by the
Speaker 4: name of Janelli. So this is Placentia. This is in
Speaker 4: the south as well. And this is a This is
Speaker 4: right there at the port where the fishermen going catch
Speaker 4: their fish. Where's the other one from the big one
Speaker 4: that they brought out? Can they bring that back out again?
Speaker 4: From Alex Sanka.
Speaker 3: Shout out to Elliott Elliott Wilson.
Speaker 8: Yeah, that's great.
Speaker 4: Elliott Wilson shout We just cover the goat and goat
Speaker 4: yeah yeah, so yeah, so yeah, we couldn't be at
Speaker 4: our bosl and now show the beliefs and artists. So
Speaker 4: we got you know, I collect art. I'm not like
Speaker 4: like Jay and and Swiss and Yay and and all
Speaker 4: those guys, but I collect believes in art. My house
Speaker 4: is filled with art.
Speaker 5: So yeah, now I appreciate your passion for your country
Speaker 5: because that's something that you said this morning, like, no,
Speaker 5: it's not about me, it's about believes. And absolutely want
Speaker 5: to highlight the beliefs and artists and give them an
Speaker 5: opportunity to shine during our bos or if we're going
Speaker 5: to have a stage and a platform to speak, you know,
Speaker 5: I think it would be a good idea to highlight
Speaker 5: some of the local artists. So yeah, yes, he's taking
Speaker 5: all the right steps. I see, I see a bright future.
Speaker 8: I actually see us in beliefs. I see us in beliefs.
Speaker 5: Yes, it has we're bringing that pain back. Yeah, we're
Speaker 5: gonna make it. And you know, in the financial literacy,
Speaker 5: it's so much. You know, I applaud you for that.
Speaker 5: I applaud you for that. It's so important to our culture.
Speaker 4: You know, before you buy a Richard mill, before you
Speaker 4: buy protectively by some real estate, you know, you know,
Speaker 4: buy things that appreciate. Uh, you know, make sure that
Speaker 4: you invest in security and our people need that, you know.
Speaker 4: So what you're what you're providing for our people is
Speaker 4: it's so necessary and invaluable and and it survived, so
Speaker 4: it's not it's not boring, you know, it's not you know,
Speaker 4: broccoli stressed up nice and you know, and.
Speaker 5: It's important before we leave that we always got to
Speaker 5: have these conversations because when we went to Jamaica, we
Speaker 5: had to tap in with Usain Bolt and all the
Speaker 5: guys in Jamaica and then you know, we just went
Speaker 5: to Nigeria, we went to Egypt. So it's important for
Speaker 5: us to not just focus on America. The world is
Speaker 5: big and there's opportunities all over the world, and we
Speaker 5: need to tap in, especially people that look like us
Speaker 5: from all over the world, because ultimately it's divide and
Speaker 5: conquer and the more way united, uh, the stronger we are.
Speaker 5: And the key to unity is education. People have a
Speaker 5: lack of education, which leaves them ignorant. So having conversations
Speaker 5: with diplomats, politicians, statesmen from different parts of the world
Speaker 5: is not something to be taken lightly because it's actually
Speaker 5: opening doors to the minds of something that can actually
Speaker 5: help potentially change the world. So thank you, brother, I
Speaker 5: appreciate it.
Speaker 4: Thank you, thank you, Thank you.
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