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Speaker 1: I'm ghosted. I gos nandas police. Hey boo, it's me

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Speaker 1: Roz and welcome to Ghosted by Roz Hernandez, the podcast

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Speaker 1: where I talk to people that I like about the paranormal.

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Speaker 1: I got to talk to George Severis, who is a

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Speaker 1: hilarious comedian based in New York City, and he's great.

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Speaker 1: We've done We've done some stuff to while I was

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Speaker 1: on his other podcast that he's got called Stradio Lab.

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Speaker 1: But today we talked a little bit about a new

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Speaker 1: sort of breaking down some of their history and it

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Speaker 1: is called United States of Kennedy and so we will

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Speaker 1: get into that. We'll hear a little bit about some

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Speaker 1: This episode, I went to a couple of Etsy psychics

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Speaker 1: put a clip with all the pictures and all of

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Speaker 1: that stuff on our Instagram, which is of course ghosted

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Speaker 1: by ros. All right, when I tell you, I've got

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Speaker 1: a very interesting inbox from my email, which is of

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Speaker 1: course ghosted by Rows at gmail dot com. So I

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Speaker 1: met these cute gentlemen of the gay persuasion at one

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Speaker 1: of my shows. It was in Minneapolis, beautiful, beautiful venue,

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Speaker 1: fascinating town. So I may I meet at my meet

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Speaker 1: and greet this adorable gay couple. And the one says, oh,

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Speaker 1: you please email me that? Well, sure enough I got

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Speaker 1: this email. This one came from Travis uh and the

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Speaker 1: subject line is dead Grandma watched me get my assay.

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Speaker 1: Travis writes, about two years ago from my boyfriend and

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Speaker 1: hours later, my boyfriend and I start fooling around in

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Speaker 1: then writes, when all was said and done, Travis's boyfriend

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Speaker 1: here is my conversation with comedian George Savers on with

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Speaker 1: You look beautiful and you've got so many books behind you.

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Speaker 2: But the point is they have put this blue tinted

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Speaker 1: Yes, what's the deal you're Are you a history person?

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Speaker 1: Because I know you got this new podcast about the Kennedys.

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Speaker 2: A lot of Kennedy's have died in very tragic circumstances.

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Speaker 2: Do you know when the first time Kennedy mentioned the

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Speaker 2: Okay. So if for anyone who doesn't know Ted Kennedy,

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Speaker 2: And the reason that's sort of manipulative is that he's

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Speaker 1: So when people say it's a curse, I want to

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Speaker 2: I'm like, I've disappointed everyone.

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Speaker 1: No, I think this is good. We like someone to

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Speaker 2: Yes.

436
00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:20,800
Speaker 1: And it's interesting because these artists psychics, they've got different techniques.

437
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:25,680
Speaker 1: And this one is definitely a more digital kind of painting.

438
00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:27,560
Speaker 2: It's very iPad art.

439
00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:34,479
Speaker 1: Yes, definitely, this is He's cute. I'm okay with this one.

440
00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:37,240
Speaker 2: I'm seeing you know, two through four all have a

441
00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:39,960
Speaker 2: real full head of hair, like they have really great hair.

442
00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:45,680
Speaker 1: Go to number three, jieha. This is just the hottest one.

443
00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:48,720
Speaker 1: I mean This is like a movie star, this guy,

444
00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:51,200
Speaker 1: and he looks like he's been working in the coal

445
00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:56,280
Speaker 1: mines all day long. He looks tired and in a

446
00:25:56,320 --> 00:26:00,359
Speaker 1: hot way, which I appreciate. They put a lot of

447
00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:01,679
Speaker 1: detail into this one.

448
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:05,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is really impressive to me, I think. And

449
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:08,080
Speaker 2: I'm not saying this in any way to stigmatize hair

450
00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:12,200
Speaker 2: loss at all. I just mean, factually speaking, number one

451
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:16,040
Speaker 2: has a receding hairline, even just a little bit, whereas

452
00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:18,640
Speaker 2: two through four don't. I mean that could also mean

453
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:21,960
Speaker 2: that they might all be depending the same person, just

454
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,879
Speaker 2: with at different stages of their life. Like maybe he

455
00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:27,159
Speaker 2: had a full head of hair and then the hairline

456
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:27,960
Speaker 2: started receding.

457
00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:30,280
Speaker 1: Well, go to number two, jiha, And this is a

458
00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:35,480
Speaker 1: jump scare. Okay, this one actually went to Turkey, if

459
00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:38,160
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. No, for sure, and maybe

460
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:40,680
Speaker 1: he got an evil eye bracelet and maybe a little

461
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:41,200
Speaker 1: bit more.

462
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:44,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, maybe he got such good luck from the

463
00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:47,680
Speaker 2: evil eye bracelet in Turkey that the hair grew back.

464
00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:50,960
Speaker 1: Yeah that's that hair is too there's too much hair

465
00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:53,680
Speaker 1: going on there. And I'm not going to lie this

466
00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:58,000
Speaker 1: one based on the style that the person did. I mean,

467
00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:05,560
Speaker 1: wonderful beautiful artists, but also this is crime crime drawing. Yes,

468
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:10,199
Speaker 1: this is this is the man that was outside the

469
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:16,639
Speaker 1: grocery store that exposed himself. That's what this man is giving. Uh,

470
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:18,400
Speaker 1: I'm terrified.

471
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:22,560
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, there's also even a he looks both old

472
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:25,119
Speaker 2: and young like there's he almost could be just like

473
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:27,000
Speaker 2: a teenager with weird hair.

474
00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:30,960
Speaker 1: Gee hot, this is We are doing a horror podcast

475
00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:33,240
Speaker 1: in a way, but can you please get this off

476
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:34,560
Speaker 1: of the screen. I'm really scared.

477
00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:36,439
Speaker 2: Oh it's funny because I wanted to make you do.

478
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:38,800
Speaker 2: I was trying to think what the fourth thing could

479
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:40,520
Speaker 2: be if it's fucked Mary Kill and then.

480
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:42,919
Speaker 1: Put it No, put them all back up. I just

481
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:44,720
Speaker 1: mean get him off of the screen.

482
00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:47,359
Speaker 2: Please let me see fuck Mary Kill.

483
00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:49,000
Speaker 1: I can tell you what I won't be doing with

484
00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:53,720
Speaker 1: number two is kissing those lips. Ever, now here's gonna

485
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:55,400
Speaker 1: be the funny clip. This is what we're gonna play

486
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 1: at our wedding because this this exact man. He's probably

487
00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:01,720
Speaker 1: I bet you he's way better. You know, some people

488
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 1: aren't his cute and drawings, so maybe he's better looking

489
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,880
Speaker 1: in person. And we're gonna laugh about this one day.

490
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:11,640
Speaker 1: But currently this man gives me the he be gbis.

491
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 2: Let's do fuck Mary kill go into business with Oh.

492
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:18,200
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, talk about conspiracy theories about the

493
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:22,920
Speaker 1: Kennedys with Okay, So number one I would go to

494
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:28,560
Speaker 1: business with him. I agree, he definitely he has a

495
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:33,760
Speaker 1: four oh one K. Yes, he seems like your traditional responsible,

496
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:39,560
Speaker 1: heterosexual white man. He looks way too straight for me,

497
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:43,640
Speaker 1: which I'm not really into. I like a little you know,

498
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:46,760
Speaker 1: a little pep in the step. He looks like he

499
00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 1: would use the word buddies, you know, like I'm gonna

500
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 1: go hang out with my buddies from college tonight. They're

501
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:56,959
Speaker 1: in town. We're going to the Buffalo Wild Wings. I

502
00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,640
Speaker 1: don't like that. So I'm going to say business for him.

503
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:02,240
Speaker 2: Yeah. And he's you know, obviously he's good with money,

504
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 2: but I wouldn't say he's like CEO level, like I

505
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 2: think he's going to rise up to maybe a VP,

506
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:08,720
Speaker 2: like a VP of accounting.

507
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's nice, that's wonderful, and I'll see it

508
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 1: in the boardroom. Number two is kill. I have to agree,

509
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:22,360
Speaker 1: jiha stop, I'm scared. Now go to number three. That

510
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:29,680
Speaker 1: is marriage material right there, because again, this man to

511
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 1: me looks like he is a hard working man. He well,

512
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 1: this is tough.

513
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 2: Because he also kind of looks like a playwright.

514
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:43,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, and as I'm looking at him, it looks like

515
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 1: the playwriting's not going well for him.

516
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 2: That's what I mean. It's like he's like a hipster

517
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:50,480
Speaker 2: who wears work wear, or like who wears a blazer.

518
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 2: It's it's a costume. It's not it's not authentic to him,

519
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 2: Like this is not he doesn't need to actually dress

520
00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 2: like this.

521
00:29:56,960 --> 00:30:00,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're making me rethink this because I'm looking looking

522
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 1: at his eyes, and this man has heard no from

523
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:05,560
Speaker 1: every theater company.

524
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 2: And you know what else I think he like is

525
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:14,680
Speaker 2: going around and he's like going to everyone's openings and

526
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:17,680
Speaker 2: he's being supportive. But then he's like going online and

527
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 2: he has an alt account and he's like commenting really

528
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:23,440
Speaker 2: hateful things in an article about a new female playwright.

529
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:28,200
Speaker 1: Oh there's nothing worse. Yeah that's bad. Yeah, but I'd

530
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:33,080
Speaker 1: fuck him. Number four. I guess he's the one.

531
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:36,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's the one. He does. You know, I can't

532
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:37,920
Speaker 2: tell if he looks like a gamer just because of

533
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 2: the way he's drawn, or if he actually looks like

534
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:41,800
Speaker 2: a gamer. You know what I mean.

535
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:46,240
Speaker 1: Yes, which is not hot to me in my opinion,

536
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:49,840
Speaker 1: but you know, it's very common these days, and I

537
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:56,040
Speaker 1: think gaming, much like open relationships, is something that I

538
00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 1: just have to accept a lot of people are into. Yes,

539
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:03,239
Speaker 1: let me just tell you this one. There is a

540
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 1: prediction timeline that was given to me. Okay, it says, ultimately,

541
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:12,120
Speaker 1: when it comes to my timeline predictions and when you

542
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 1: two will meet, I like to disclose the fact that

543
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:18,520
Speaker 1: the future is ever changing, so in result of such,

544
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 1: the timeline can shift slightly due to divine timing. However,

545
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 1: that being said, I do see you too coming into

546
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:30,360
Speaker 1: each other's lives in the span of eleven to fourteen months,

547
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 1: and this will make for a beautiful and happy union

548
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 1: long term. I wish you strength and clarity upon this journey. Now,

549
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:45,320
Speaker 1: all of these, by the way, come with documents. Okay,

550
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:49,880
Speaker 1: you're talking about your research documents that you have for

551
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 1: your podcast. I got files now that these ladies sent me,

552
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 1: which makes me think it's copy and pasted and they've

553
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:01,160
Speaker 1: written this before or it's AI. I'm not sure, but

554
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 1: some of these go into the things that these men enjoy,

555
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 1: what kind of personality they are, what their career is

556
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 1: all of this stuff.

557
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 2: And so which one seems we've now judged them based

558
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 2: on their physical appearance, which is, as we know, the

559
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:20,640
Speaker 2: most important thing. But which one are you more drawn

560
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 2: to in terms of personality and stuff.

561
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:28,480
Speaker 1: I'll be honest with you, it's almost like reading tinder profiles.

562
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 1: I didn't necessarily see anything that stood out to me

563
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:36,000
Speaker 1: because here's the thing. They ask you, what's your gender?

564
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 1: How old are you? So they have that to work

565
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:43,239
Speaker 1: off of, And so they didn't say anything that was

566
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 1: like he's a cheater, Like they didn't say anything like that.

567
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 1: You know, it was all like he's got friends, and

568
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:56,960
Speaker 1: he's compassionate and you know, loves his passions. Like, okay,

569
00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 1: that could be any of these guys. I don't necessarily know.

570
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:05,560
Speaker 1: I also got a little bit bored reading them. Let

571
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 1: me tell you something. I encountered an astrologer, and this

572
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 1: astrologer was like, let me do your chart. And I

573
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:14,520
Speaker 1: was like, I just got one question. When am I

574
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 1: going to be famous? And he said September eleventh, twenty

575
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 1: twenty five. This was like a month ago, a month

576
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 1: before then. I was like, that's really soon. I got

577
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 1: to start making plans I call a meeting with my manager.

578
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:34,480
Speaker 1: I'm like, just so you know, it's all going to

579
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 1: pop off for me a September eleventh, twenty twenty five.

580
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 1: So the whole day I'm like, Okay, well shit, it's

581
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 1: three pm. That means it's six in New York. I

582
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 1: haven't really heard that I'm famous yet nothing happened now,

583
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:57,640
Speaker 1: who knows, maybe somehow somewhere I don't know, But all

584
00:33:57,680 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 1: of this kind of stuff, I'm like, listen, I want

585
00:33:59,920 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 1: to be a believer. Let's prove it. So here is

586
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:09,799
Speaker 1: Here is the predictions. And I also would like this

587
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 1: to be a man hunt. If any of you know

588
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 1: these men, particularly number four or three, send them my way.

589
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 2: I have a conspiracy theory.

590
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:22,800
Speaker 1: Thank god.

591
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:26,400
Speaker 2: So you're not gonna like this, Okay, here's what I think.

592
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:29,399
Speaker 2: I think the fact that number three is so well

593
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:34,640
Speaker 2: drawn means that it is not personalized to you. I

594
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 2: feel like this woman is giving this drawing edge to

595
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:40,520
Speaker 2: multiple people. I don't think she's sitting down and doing

596
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:43,640
Speaker 2: such a detailed sketch, whereas I actually think the other ones.

597
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:47,719
Speaker 2: You know, they're simpler, but that's because those women are

598
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 2: putting in the time to do one for every client,

599
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:55,960
Speaker 2: I have this inkling and I really that's how I feel.

600
00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 2: How does that make you feel?

601
00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 1: I think you don't believe a true love? Yes, I

602
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 1: can certainly see that being the case. Let me just

603
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 1: look because I'm curious. How much did I even spend

604
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:12,440
Speaker 1: on these This was a couple of months ago. Here's

605
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:18,840
Speaker 1: what I'll say. Number four took way longer than the

606
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:22,320
Speaker 1: timeline that I was given to expect for these pictures

607
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 1: to be drawn. And let me tell you, some of

608
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 1: the best psychics I ever met not great with timing

609
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 1: and showing up and oh there was always something going on.

610
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:34,799
Speaker 2: To me, it's it would be so suspicious if they

611
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 2: were good about timing. That means they're like business people.

612
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:39,439
Speaker 2: It's like they're meant to be mediums, like they're meant

613
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:42,800
Speaker 2: to kind of exist slightly outside of time and place.

614
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 1: So I'm looking at these prices. Oh god, I'm trying

615
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:55,760
Speaker 1: to figure out which one is which. So the one

616
00:35:56,760 --> 00:36:02,399
Speaker 1: that is giving me nightmares, that was discount Diva. That

617
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:05,360
Speaker 1: one was four dollars and seventy cents.

618
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:08,360
Speaker 2: Oh my god, she's only getting four dollars and seventy cents.

619
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 1: That's what she sold it as well.

620
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 2: You know. Now I'm like a little Now, I'm like,

621
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 2: now I'm believing these less.

622
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 1: Now listen, here's what I'm going to say. They range

623
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 1: up to eighty five dollars.

624
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 2: So which one's eighty five?

625
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 1: I'm not going to tell you. I'll tell you off air, okay,

626
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:29,720
Speaker 1: just because again I don't want to be promoting, because

627
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:32,400
Speaker 1: I'm telling you I've got too much experience with If

628
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 1: I start talking about this psychic and that witch and whatever,

629
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 1: then people are going to be like I went to

630
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 1: them and they ripped me off, and like I just

631
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 1: can't deal with it. But I will say, if I

632
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 1: meet the person, if this really is my soulmate, I

633
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:50,879
Speaker 1: will tell you where I got it. I'll tell all

634
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 1: of you. But the one that I knew was proven

635
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 1: from the lady or whatever, you know, the woman that

636
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:01,720
Speaker 1: inspired all this one was the most money.

637
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:03,920
Speaker 2: Oh I see.

638
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, speaking of all this kind of atsy, which by

639
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 1: the way, they call it digital witchcraft now, which I mean,

640
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:16,799
Speaker 1: it's not like it's a stretch or anything, but it's

641
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 1: just weird. Because I was reading an article I think

642
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:24,440
Speaker 1: it was Cosmo or like so many different news outlets

643
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 1: have covered this stuff since COVID. There's just been various

644
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:31,880
Speaker 1: profiles about a day in the life of at sea whatever.

645
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:34,879
Speaker 1: It really is an industry and there's people that are

646
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:38,840
Speaker 1: making bank. I mean, I'm here in six figures that

647
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:42,760
Speaker 1: some of these people are getting for doing these spells

648
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:47,640
Speaker 1: and psychic readings. But another thing in this realm that

649
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:50,480
Speaker 1: we talk about a lot on this podcast is the

650
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 1: haunted dolls that people sell. Can I show you a

651
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:54,719
Speaker 1: haunted doll?

652
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 2: Please?

653
00:37:56,239 --> 00:38:03,759
Speaker 1: Okay, it's time for the dolls are living? Okay, So

654
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 1: typically we go to eBay. Every once in a while

655
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 1: we take a peek over at Etsy, and since this

656
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:13,920
Speaker 1: is an Etsy episode, it's it turned into with me

657
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:17,440
Speaker 1: and my love life. I found one on Etsy that

658
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 1: is currently being sold for sixty five dollars. Jieha show

659
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 1: us Jory. You got it? Rose? Oh, there's Jory. Jory

660
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:28,760
Speaker 1: is a clown.

661
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:30,440
Speaker 2: I like her.

662
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:34,480
Speaker 1: Yes, honey, Sarah Scorm would go crazy for this outfit.

663
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 1: She has got a clown outfit. Big poofballs. I love

664
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 1: a ball like a poofball. She's got big poofballs going

665
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 1: down the center rainbow fabric. Okay, an ally happy pride.

666
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:53,719
Speaker 2: So this is a haunted doll. And why would I

667
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 2: want to own a haunted doll?

668
00:38:56,280 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 1: Friendship? Right, you know, something so one to have an

669
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 1: interesting story when people come over to your house, you

670
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 1: can go, oh, and this is jewelry.

671
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:08,839
Speaker 2: This is just an interesting thing because I'm like, if

672
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:11,840
Speaker 2: you're a true believer, why would you want to invite

673
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 2: something haunted into your home?

674
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:16,839
Speaker 1: Well, doesn't necessarily mean it's bad. Here's the thing. They

675
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:21,239
Speaker 1: come with bios Okay, they come with experience that the

676
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 1: seller can tell you this is what you'll get when

677
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:26,840
Speaker 1: you get this one. And sometimes they're good, sometimes they're bad.

678
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 1: Sometimes they will perform sexual acts on you. There's all

679
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:38,279
Speaker 1: different types that you can get. What gender would you

680
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 1: guess this doll? Even is?

681
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:44,759
Speaker 2: I think she's a woman. You think she's a woman, Yes,

682
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 2: I firmly do. Interesting, I believe she is bisexual.

683
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 1: Now here's the thing. There's always a difference between the

684
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 1: spirit inside of the doll and then what we're looking

685
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 1: at this doll, because there is sort of an idea

686
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:02,840
Speaker 1: that this was a living person that is now inside

687
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:03,520
Speaker 1: of this doll.

688
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 2: Okay, I think the living person was way less colorful.

689
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:11,840
Speaker 2: I think the living person was a girl wearing a blazer,

690
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:15,319
Speaker 2: going to her job in an office, gotcha. And I

691
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:18,400
Speaker 2: think in the afterlife she can finally embrace her freak.

692
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 1: Now she can be a part of the clown community.

693
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Speaker 1: The Allegian theater.

694
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 2: Honey, Yes, she's very Allegian. And I think she's someone

695
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:30,520
Speaker 2: who went to her job, was not satisfied, and we'll

696
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 2: go home. And she would look at Instagram and she

697
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:36,359
Speaker 2: would see her more creative, artistic friends going to a rave,

698
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 2: going to Burning Man, attending a concert that she didn't

699
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 2: know about, doing polyamory, and she would say, you know,

700
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:49,320
Speaker 2: of course I want some of that stuff, but I'm happy.

701
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 2: I'm happy with Mark. You know, I'm happy with Mark,

702
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:55,360
Speaker 2: and I like our life together and I love our dogs.

703
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:59,400
Speaker 2: But something was always bugging her inside. She had a

704
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 2: suspicion that she was a little more clown than she

705
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 2: was letting on. And I think now she's finally fully

706
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 2: able to embrace that post life.

707
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:11,440
Speaker 1: Well, you couldn't be more wrong. This is with a

708
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:15,239
Speaker 1: person Rope. I found Jory at my local habitat for

709
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:21,120
Speaker 1: humanity thrift store. He stood out to me. Heugh, I

710
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 1: have spent some time with Jory myself and also consulted

711
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 1: another medium to get a second opinion. Jory is in

712
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:35,919
Speaker 1: all caps sassy. Jory is a sassy diva. Sometimes. One

713
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Speaker 1: of the first times we spoke on the spirit box,

714
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:42,440
Speaker 1: which is like a ghost hunting device, he told me

715
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Speaker 1: do not touch because I was annoying him. For this reason,

716
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:52,239
Speaker 1: I am listing him as neutral as opposed to you know, like, oh,

717
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 1: this one's evil, this one's nice.

718
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Speaker 2: Okay, Oh I see.

719
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Speaker 1: Although he is a delight to speak to, sometimes he

720
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:03,720
Speaker 1: can get a little attitude or be a little mischievous.

721
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 1: Basically he is moody. He does like to trick his

722
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:11,279
Speaker 1: keeper sometimes. Also, in fact, the other day he made

723
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:14,320
Speaker 1: me spill paint while I was touching up the trim

724
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Speaker 1: in my house. Whoever selling this has a house and

725
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 1: I don't.

726
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:21,439
Speaker 2: So basically, basically he's a gay guy.

727
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:25,920
Speaker 1: They didn't want to say it. It says from what

728
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 1: the medium and I have gathered in the late sixties

729
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:32,920
Speaker 1: and early seventies, he was a wandering spirit. So I

730
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 1: think maybe he.

731
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 2: Was wandering behind some bushes.

732
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Speaker 1: Perhaps he was not in a doll yet, and he

733
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:45,440
Speaker 1: was also not attached to a single person. But he

734
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:48,440
Speaker 1: would feed off the laughter in awe that children and

735
00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:52,719
Speaker 1: audiences gave at events like carnivals, fairs, and circuses.

736
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 2: Right, he was an entertainer.

737
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 1: Guess he was in his forties. I believe he may

738
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Speaker 1: have killed himself.

739
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:03,239
Speaker 2: Okay, well that's what happened. You know, if you're a

740
00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 2: gay guy, you get to your forties, it's like, what's next.

741
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:08,600
Speaker 1: I guess we're just gonna hang out at the carnival.

742
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 1: Sometimes he does not want to talk at all, and

743
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:16,920
Speaker 1: he gets a little sassy. He will stop the conversation

744
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:21,239
Speaker 1: once he is overstimulated and done. He gets frustrated. He

745
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:23,400
Speaker 1: likes the sun and admiring beauty.

746
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:26,320
Speaker 2: I mean, these are all such dog whistles for gay.

747
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 2: He likes the sun and admiring beauty. Hello, Hello, So

748
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:34,600
Speaker 2: he loves the beach and going to an art gallery

749
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:35,840
Speaker 2: sounds pretty gay to me.

750
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Speaker 1: I mean, oh my god. When I was in Atlanta recently,

751
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 1: I performed at the Outfront Theater, the gay theater there,

752
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 1: which is phenomenal, And there's an art gallery next door,

753
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:49,640
Speaker 1: and there was I picked my head into the art

754
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 1: gallery and there was a man playing My Heart Will

755
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 1: go On on the piano.

756
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 2: That's so sweet.

757
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 1: Hell, Okay, anyway, one more thing I got for you,

758
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:06,880
Speaker 1: and we listen to some ghost voices. It's tied for

759
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 1: EVP or ev plase. Okay, EVP stays, we're electronic voice phenomena.

760
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:21,640
Speaker 1: It's anytime a ghost hunter believes they've captured a ghost speaking.

761
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 1: I go to YouTube. I got two of them for you.

762
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:28,880
Speaker 1: I want you to tell me what these ghosts are saying,

763
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 1: and then I'm gonna give you an ABCD. One of

764
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 1: those options is what this person that posted it believes

765
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:39,840
Speaker 1: the ghost is saying. Okay. Both of these come from

766
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 1: a user named Jeff Mills eighteen. This first one is

767
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:49,480
Speaker 1: in a place called New Boston, Illinois, at a private residence.

768
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:56,799
Speaker 1: Jorce of veris, what is this ghost saying? Okay, it's

769
00:44:56,920 --> 00:45:02,720
Speaker 1: real faint. Do you hear the voice.

770
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:13,560
Speaker 2: It's like there's like yeah, yeah, four syllables. So get

771
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 2: me Uma, get me Uma. Yes, he's an Uma Thurmon

772
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:22,800
Speaker 2: fan and he's saying, get me Uma.

773
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:27,760
Speaker 1: That's a great guess, thank you, Yes, get me Umah,

774
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:30,080
Speaker 1: let's do kill Bill volume three.

775
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:33,440
Speaker 2: Yes, he's saying it's time, it's time to resurrect that property.

776
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:37,279
Speaker 1: That's not what chepp Mail's eighteen thinks. Okay that this

777
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:42,239
Speaker 1: ghost in a home in Illinois. Thought, did he think

778
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 1: it was a hey, stupid b Is this a bit

779
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:54,480
Speaker 1: C paint their bedroom or d thank you bitch?

780
00:45:57,120 --> 00:45:58,120
Speaker 2: Okay, I think it's.

781
00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 1: C paint their bedroom. Yeah that is what he believes. Okay,

782
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:02,960
Speaker 1: I can kind of hear it.

783
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:07,160
Speaker 2: Wait, yeah, I can hear it.

784
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:12,120
Speaker 1: Sam, this one had notes. Yeah, that's correct, that is correct. See,

785
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:15,840
Speaker 1: this ghost was like, honey, what are you doing with

786
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:17,480
Speaker 1: that tone? With that carpet?

787
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:21,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's I actually like there's a pattern.

788
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:24,279
Speaker 2: I'm sensing a lot of these ghosts have an appreciation

789
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:25,440
Speaker 2: for aesthetics and beauty.

790
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:27,719
Speaker 1: You know, well, what else are they got going on?

791
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:29,760
Speaker 1: But to stare at everything.

792
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:31,920
Speaker 2: That is such a good point. It's like because they

793
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 2: can't do it. They can't like grab something and move it.

794
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:39,319
Speaker 2: It's like they are the ultimate like cultural critic. They're

795
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:40,920
Speaker 2: just observing and critiquing.

796
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:43,440
Speaker 1: I was on a plane and I was looking for

797
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:47,719
Speaker 1: something to watch and there's a movie with Lucy Lou

798
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:50,480
Speaker 1: that is from the perspective of a ghost.

799
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:53,719
Speaker 2: Mm hmm. Yeah. The Soderberg movie was that good. It

800
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:57,319
Speaker 2: was sad. I have to watch it. I really want to. Yeah,

801
00:46:57,360 --> 00:46:59,759
Speaker 2: I watched it isn't Julia Fox in it. I don't

802
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:00,960
Speaker 2: think she plays a realtor.

803
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 1: Really, yeah, I don't remember. This is a couple months ago. Okay,

804
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:11,759
Speaker 1: here's another one. This is from a private home in Conesville, Iowa.

805
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 1: What is this ghost saying?

806
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:27,080
Speaker 2: Okay, I am the wrong I am I'm watching Maury.

807
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:32,920
Speaker 1: The results are in and that is not the answer.

808
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:34,960
Speaker 2: Okay, let me hear the options.

809
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:37,880
Speaker 1: Did they think it was A I like your girls,

810
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:43,839
Speaker 1: B I like girls. Maybe they were a Lena Dunham fan.

811
00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:50,920
Speaker 1: C I like the girls, which is different? Okay, YEA,

812
00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:53,960
Speaker 1: or D I like your pearls.

813
00:47:57,480 --> 00:48:01,279
Speaker 2: Okay, this is interesting, I like girls. What was the

814
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:01,759
Speaker 2: second one?

815
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:06,960
Speaker 1: Okay, so A I like your curls. Oh, B I

816
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:10,880
Speaker 1: like girls. C. I like the girls and that's g

817
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:15,840
Speaker 1: o r ls of course. Or D I like your pearls.

818
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:17,840
Speaker 2: I think curls.

819
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:21,360
Speaker 1: They believe it is B. I like girls.

820
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:25,880
Speaker 2: Really, I mean, I can.

821
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:29,960
Speaker 1: Kind of hear it. It's actually kind of gross. In

822
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:32,879
Speaker 1: the video, the ghost hunter is trying to figure out

823
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:36,960
Speaker 1: the sexuality of the ghosts, and he does ask very

824
00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:43,360
Speaker 1: lude lude ways. He's like, do you like this pejorative

825
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:47,040
Speaker 1: or this pejorative? And then the ghost goes I.

826
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:50,680
Speaker 2: Like girls, and is the ghost male or female?

827
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 1: Oh that's a good question. I was assuming it was male.

828
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:59,080
Speaker 2: But you know what, well, no, why would you assume

829
00:48:59,400 --> 00:48:59,839
Speaker 2: you're right?

830
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:02,400
Speaker 1: That is my own toxic masculinity.

831
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:06,440
Speaker 2: Well, it's not toxic masculinity. It's internalized misogyny that you

832
00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:09,439
Speaker 2: think a woman can't rise to the ranks of being

833
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:10,360
Speaker 2: a lesbian ghost.

834
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:14,359
Speaker 1: And you know what's really sad. I also doubted you

835
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:17,480
Speaker 1: when you said that Jory was a woman. I saw you.

836
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:21,760
Speaker 1: I forget that clowns can be women sometimes.

837
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:24,200
Speaker 2: I yeah, it just seemed and of course I get

838
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:27,520
Speaker 2: that jury is gay guy presenting, but I just it

839
00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:29,360
Speaker 2: felt so obvious to me that I was like, but

840
00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:31,240
Speaker 2: what if it's kind of a woman with a pixie cut?

841
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 2: But I was wrong, obviously.

842
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:35,560
Speaker 1: And I am an advocate for women with pixie cuts

843
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 1: and I always have been.

844
00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:37,520
Speaker 2: Yes, So.

845
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:43,480
Speaker 1: Do I need to do a lot of internal thinking? Okay,

846
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:47,040
Speaker 1: one last thing, George, I'm just going to fire off

847
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:49,880
Speaker 1: a couple of these, you know, weirdo thingies, and I

848
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:52,920
Speaker 1: want you to tell me if there's any thoughts you got.

849
00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:57,800
Speaker 1: Maybe it's a story or what about psychics for you?

850
00:49:57,800 --> 00:49:58,960
Speaker 2: You know, I've never been to one.

851
00:49:59,560 --> 00:49:59,920
Speaker 1: Is there a.

852
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:06,799
Speaker 2: Yes, there is a reason. I get very bogged down

853
00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:10,080
Speaker 2: by reviews. Like I'm someone who like, if I want

854
00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:12,840
Speaker 2: to buy a new pan for my kitchen, I'm like

855
00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:15,480
Speaker 2: going to wirecutter, I'm going to strategists, and I'm reading

856
00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:18,480
Speaker 2: everyone's reviews. I'm trying to get the perfect one. And

857
00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:21,360
Speaker 2: for me, a psychic is something that like, I would

858
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:24,360
Speaker 2: need to spend so much time researching which one to

859
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:26,680
Speaker 2: go to, and I would really have to find one

860
00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:29,319
Speaker 2: that I trust, and it seems too stressful to even

861
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:32,120
Speaker 2: get into it. So I'm like, whatever, I'd rather not know. Yeah,

862
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:34,879
Speaker 2: I'd rather not go than go to one that's bad.

863
00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:41,319
Speaker 1: I get that. What about coincidences and stuff like that?

864
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:42,400
Speaker 1: Do you read anything?

865
00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:45,160
Speaker 2: Yes? I do. I do. I think that's like more

866
00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:48,839
Speaker 2: in line with the whole evil eye bad luck thing.

867
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:52,720
Speaker 2: It's like if there's a concept in Greek called it's

868
00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:55,760
Speaker 2: for a man, it's rususis for a woman as rusuza,

869
00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:58,160
Speaker 2: and this is like a person that brings bad luck

870
00:50:58,200 --> 00:50:58,520
Speaker 2: with them.

871
00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:01,440
Speaker 1: So that was a beauty. Wait can you say it again?

872
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:05,800
Speaker 2: Rurusuzis and grusuza are the two words hanging out of

873
00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:06,960
Speaker 2: his gendered male or female.

874
00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:09,920
Speaker 1: If I have twins, so that's gonna be my twin daughters.

875
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:12,000
Speaker 2: Well get ready for them to both be haunted, okay,

876
00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:14,000
Speaker 2: and for them to bring terrible luck into your life.

877
00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:15,400
Speaker 1: Oh that's what this is, okay.

878
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:17,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's like someone who brings bad luck with them.

879
00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:20,920
Speaker 2: So it's like in terms of coincidences, like there are

880
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:24,040
Speaker 2: people in my life where I'm like, okay, every time

881
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:27,280
Speaker 2: I run into you, something bad then happens to me. Really,

882
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:29,560
Speaker 2: I can literally think of a few off the top

883
00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:32,920
Speaker 2: of my head, and I've genuinely like pulled back.

884
00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:33,800
Speaker 1: I want names.

885
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:35,960
Speaker 2: I'm not kidding, I have pulled back. There was one

886
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:39,440
Speaker 2: I didn't invite to our wedding, and I grew up

887
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 2: with this notion too, where it's like we had certain

888
00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:44,399
Speaker 2: family friends and suddenly someone in the family would be like, well,

889
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:46,400
Speaker 2: she's a grusuza, Like you do not want to be

890
00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:49,879
Speaker 2: around her, Like, don't go out for coffee with her

891
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:53,759
Speaker 2: as you're waiting for medical test results. Go out with

892
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:55,400
Speaker 2: her next week. You'll get the results first and then

893
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:56,560
Speaker 2: you can go have coffee with her.

894
00:51:56,960 --> 00:51:57,760
Speaker 1: Knock it off.

895
00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:00,399
Speaker 2: And so so in that sense, i'd do you believe

896
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:01,200
Speaker 2: in coincidences.

897
00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:05,480
Speaker 1: That is so interesting. Now do you think that they

898
00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:09,760
Speaker 1: are just that for you? Or are they that for everyone? Oh?

899
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:12,680
Speaker 2: Now that's a good question. That's a good question. I

900
00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:18,480
Speaker 2: would say, hmmm, I would say for me. Yeah.

901
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:20,400
Speaker 1: So it's a it's a person to person.

902
00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:24,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think their life is doomed to be

903
00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:25,719
Speaker 2: full of bad.

904
00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:28,080
Speaker 1: Luck, because you might be that for someone you know.

905
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:30,120
Speaker 2: I mean, I know. But here's but here's where it

906
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:33,680
Speaker 2: gets complicated. Is like, Okay, so let's say someone you

907
00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:37,279
Speaker 2: know his name is Justin Okay, and he's a grusousist.

908
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:38,719
Speaker 2: And I'm like, all right, I don't I don't really

909
00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:40,200
Speaker 2: want to spend too much time with him. But then

910
00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:43,520
Speaker 2: a friend of mine is like, I'm gonna start dating Justin.

911
00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:46,440
Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, well that's gonna come back to me,

912
00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:50,400
Speaker 2: Like there's still a pathway for the for the bad

913
00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:53,000
Speaker 2: vibes to come back to me. So, yes, it's only

914
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:56,040
Speaker 2: affecting me. But I'm not an island, like I'm part

915
00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:57,080
Speaker 2: of a community.

916
00:52:57,600 --> 00:52:58,080
Speaker 1: Okay.

917
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:01,919
Speaker 2: The bad luck is like diffused through other people. It's

918
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:02,839
Speaker 2: not just one on one.

919
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:03,600
Speaker 1: Okay.

920
00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:07,080
Speaker 2: Interesting, do you have anyone like that in your life?

921
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:11,759
Speaker 1: No? But I bet you, because I'm like, I don't

922
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:14,440
Speaker 1: like that person. I think I'm at a point in

923
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:16,640
Speaker 1: my life where I'm like, if you're giving me or

924
00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:19,799
Speaker 1: a Susie vibes, I'm not sorry, I said it wrong,

925
00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:20,520
Speaker 1: say it.

926
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:23,520
Speaker 2: So it's like g R but like a soft so

927
00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:24,960
Speaker 2: it's like rue suzis.

928
00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:27,560
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I can't do that. But if you're giving

929
00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:30,000
Speaker 1: me like, I think it's gonna be that you're not

930
00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:32,640
Speaker 1: even getting in. So I see, I se yeah, we

931
00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:33,880
Speaker 1: don't let you in at the door.

932
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:37,040
Speaker 2: Oh see, I'm bad at welcoming. I'm like, I'm getting

933
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:38,760
Speaker 2: better as if this is a good older but especially

934
00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:41,080
Speaker 2: when I was younger, I would just like give every

935
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:42,399
Speaker 2: one the benefit of the doubt.

936
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:47,839
Speaker 1: Yeah I know, I know, and maybe I should be

937
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:50,839
Speaker 1: more of that sometimes, but I don't know. I just

938
00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:55,400
Speaker 1: got I got my radar. It's just like when I

939
00:53:55,400 --> 00:54:02,440
Speaker 1: see the Etsy drawings, I'm like that guy, yes for me. Okay,

940
00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:07,120
Speaker 1: last one, what do you think about UFOs.

941
00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:10,640
Speaker 2: This is a tough one and your audience is gonna

942
00:54:10,640 --> 00:54:13,439
Speaker 2: get mad at me. But I've so far been very

943
00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:17,080
Speaker 2: open to the paranormal. Yeah, I appreciate it, but I

944
00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:20,840
Speaker 2: think with UFOs, I'm like, I am open to the

945
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:24,239
Speaker 2: concept of their life in the universe, but the like

946
00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:28,800
Speaker 2: cartoonishness of UFOs turns me off. I'm like, if there's something,

947
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:31,560
Speaker 2: if there are aliens around us, they're not in little

948
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:35,879
Speaker 2: saucers like there, it's gonna be something more complex real, Okay, Yeah,

949
00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:38,759
Speaker 2: so that's how I feel. I'm like, maybe they're in

950
00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:41,960
Speaker 2: the air around us and we can't even perceive them,

951
00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:48,080
Speaker 2: or maybe they're you know, infiltrating human body. Like I'm

952
00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:51,400
Speaker 2: open to even more crazy theories, but the idea of

953
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:54,560
Speaker 2: a flying saucer is just it's too Hollywood.

954
00:54:55,000 --> 00:55:00,640
Speaker 1: It's cute, sure for a movie or a yeah, yeah, but.

955
00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:03,399
Speaker 2: It's like it's too neat. I guess it's too much

956
00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:07,319
Speaker 2: like a spaceship is too much like a car, and

957
00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:08,600
Speaker 2: like they would have something different.

958
00:55:09,080 --> 00:55:12,440
Speaker 1: All I ever say about it really though, is like

959
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:18,080
Speaker 1: if they come here, yeah, and we have not been

960
00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:22,120
Speaker 1: wherever they are that we know of, that means that

961
00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:28,600
Speaker 1: they're super smart and so they've got incredible technology and yeah,

962
00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:31,480
Speaker 1: so whatever it is that they are able to fly

963
00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:36,360
Speaker 1: here in, it's probably pretty cute. I mean, in some fashion,

964
00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:43,239
Speaker 1: it's probably like, you know, just really high quality. Yeah,

965
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:46,000
Speaker 1: totally come on, they can get all the way over here,

966
00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:49,280
Speaker 1: they figure out how to make it, and they're clearly

967
00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:53,240
Speaker 1: not close by. Yeah, so it's got to be pretty

968
00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:55,360
Speaker 1: good stuff. That's all I'm saying.

969
00:55:55,680 --> 00:55:57,000
Speaker 2: Do you think they're peaceful?

970
00:55:57,640 --> 00:56:01,160
Speaker 1: I mean, we're still standing, that's true if they have

971
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:07,000
Speaker 1: that capability and they haven't done something too crazy. I mean,

972
00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:10,680
Speaker 1: I think I think they're peaceful. I'd like to believe that.

973
00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:16,920
Speaker 1: And I'm so open to other than humans, like just

974
00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:21,279
Speaker 1: knowing that, Like I would love for them to come

975
00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:24,440
Speaker 1: down and just like it becomes like another race that

976
00:56:24,520 --> 00:56:27,439
Speaker 1: we have here. Sounds so fun. I'm like, Oh, tell

977
00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:30,839
Speaker 1: me everything about your culture. I want to hear about it.

978
00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:33,800
Speaker 1: I want to hear about the things that you guys

979
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:38,040
Speaker 1: know and that you find fun and all of it.

980
00:56:38,040 --> 00:56:40,280
Speaker 2: It would be really exciting to just meet someone who's

981
00:56:40,320 --> 00:56:41,160
Speaker 2: completely different.

982
00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:45,280
Speaker 1: Just wait till we have like alien influencers. Like there's

983
00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:47,680
Speaker 1: there's a lot of things that they could do. And look,

984
00:56:47,719 --> 00:56:50,120
Speaker 1: don't don't get me wrong, I'm fully aware they're gonna

985
00:56:50,120 --> 00:56:52,440
Speaker 1: come to this earth and they're gonna turn real shitty,

986
00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:56,200
Speaker 1: real quick. But for a minute, it's going to be exciting.

987
00:56:56,760 --> 00:56:59,080
Speaker 1: Oh for sure, and we need something you to be

988
00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:04,439
Speaker 1: excited about. So anyway, I hope that they're listening, and

989
00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:10,680
Speaker 1: you are more than welcome to crash at my place. Uh. Okay, George,

990
00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:11,640
Speaker 1: that's it.

991
00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:14,439
Speaker 2: Well, this has been an absolute delight. I'm so sad

992
00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:18,280
Speaker 2: we're not in the same room. I hope tour has

993
00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:19,040
Speaker 2: been going well.

994
00:57:19,720 --> 00:57:21,880
Speaker 1: Yes, I have. With the time of this recording, I

995
00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:25,000
Speaker 1: only have one more and I'm leaving for it tomorrow.

996
00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:26,560
Speaker 1: Forty six dates.

997
00:57:26,560 --> 00:57:29,200
Speaker 2: Well, congratulations, that's very exciting. Thank you.

998
00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:32,160
Speaker 1: Okay, one more time. Tell us where to listen to

999
00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:33,800
Speaker 1: your pod. This sounds fascinating.

1000
00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:36,880
Speaker 2: Yes, so I do have. I am a comedian who

1001
00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:39,480
Speaker 2: has a comedy podcast called Stradio Lab with Sam Taggart

1002
00:57:39,600 --> 00:57:41,720
Speaker 2: and Roz has been on it. Yeah. It's a podcast

1003
00:57:41,720 --> 00:57:44,680
Speaker 2: about straight culture. Each episode we discuss a different element

1004
00:57:44,720 --> 00:57:47,520
Speaker 2: of straight culture and then sometimes I put my serious

1005
00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:49,640
Speaker 2: hat on. And I co host United States of Kennedy,

1006
00:57:49,640 --> 00:57:52,160
Speaker 2: which is a pop culture history podcast about the Kennedys.

1007
00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:54,480
Speaker 2: And you can find both of them wherever you find

1008
00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:55,240
Speaker 2: your podcasts.

1009
00:57:55,440 --> 00:57:56,000
Speaker 1: I love that.

1010
00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:59,400
Speaker 2: Oh, and I have a comedy special coming out December

1011
00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:03,200
Speaker 2: second Style. I haven't even announced it anywhere yet, so

1012
00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:06,600
Speaker 2: you're the first one to hear about it. Where congrats,

1013
00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:09,840
Speaker 2: it's going to be like available to rent and stuff

1014
00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:13,600
Speaker 2: like on Apple and on Amazon and all those places.

1015
00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:15,520
Speaker 1: Do you know what it's called and all that.

1016
00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:17,720
Speaker 2: I'm not even going to say the name of you

1017
00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:19,000
Speaker 2: yet because I don't know if I'm allowed to, but

1018
00:58:19,080 --> 00:58:20,600
Speaker 2: that's you're the first to hear about it.

1019
00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:22,960
Speaker 1: Congratulations.

1020
00:58:23,120 --> 00:58:23,480
Speaker 2: Thank you.

1021
00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:25,640
Speaker 1: I was just going to say, if people listen to

1022
00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:28,800
Speaker 1: Stradio lap, go listen to the one one I was on.

1023
00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:32,560
Speaker 1: We talk about I think we talked about aliens, but.

1024
00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:35,240
Speaker 2: I definitely I know it was UFO's right, I think so.

1025
00:58:35,720 --> 00:58:38,120
Speaker 2: And you were wearing famously transition lenses.

1026
00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:40,840
Speaker 1: That's what it was. It's all I wear these days

1027
00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:45,160
Speaker 1: when I'm not like on stage, is these tinted glasses.

1028
00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:48,520
Speaker 1: And we really got into we did the fact that

1029
00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:53,920
Speaker 1: what I wear is transitioned lenses. They are not, and

1030
00:58:54,160 --> 00:58:56,760
Speaker 1: they don't transition. They are That's right.

1031
00:58:56,920 --> 00:58:58,120
Speaker 2: They have transitioned.

1032
00:58:58,160 --> 00:59:02,160
Speaker 1: They have transitioned. And there was some misunderstanding because you

1033
00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:03,400
Speaker 1: thought that they were.

1034
00:59:03,480 --> 00:59:07,120
Speaker 2: I thought they were transitioning. Yeah, And I apologized and

1035
00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:09,800
Speaker 2: we had a real come to Jesus moment about that.

1036
00:59:10,160 --> 00:59:12,840
Speaker 1: Thank you. Okay, anyway, that's it.

1037
00:59:13,320 --> 00:59:17,760
Speaker 2: Thank you Oz, Thank you.

1038
00:59:17,840 --> 00:59:21,680
Speaker 1: George, and go listen to his new podcast, United States

1039
00:59:21,680 --> 00:59:28,320
Speaker 1: of Kennedy. All Right, you people are so fun to

1040
00:59:28,400 --> 00:59:31,880
Speaker 1: talk to every single week, and I love it, so

1041
00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:35,200
Speaker 1: let's keep doing it. I got a lot of really

1042
00:59:35,240 --> 00:59:38,200
Speaker 1: exciting episodes coming up, so make sure you're following this

1043
00:59:38,320 --> 00:59:42,000
Speaker 1: show and telling everyone you know about it. I love

1044
00:59:42,080 --> 00:59:45,120
Speaker 1: you all, both living and dead. But if I didn't

1045
00:59:45,160 --> 00:59:48,840
Speaker 1: ask you to haunt me, don't haunt me came back.

1046
00:59:55,880 --> 00:59:59,160
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