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Speaker 1: This is Fox Sports Radios Countdown to Kickoff, presented by

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Speaker 1: Here's Brian No, six year NFL veteran rich Bornberger, and

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Speaker 4: Oh, good morning everybody. Hope you're doing fantastic over here.

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Speaker 4: So programming note, programming note. Jeff Schwartz not with us

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Speaker 4: this morning as he flies back from Eugene after the

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Speaker 4: poor duck had to do over five hundred push ups

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Speaker 4: as they put up over eighty points and there gave

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Speaker 4: Bill Krackenberger on the way. There's been some storms and

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Speaker 4: crazy stuff going on in Vegas. So he'll be here momentarily.

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Speaker 4: Rich Ornberger gracing us with his presence today.

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Speaker 5: So from the beginning here it's it's Rich show and Brian.

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Speaker 4: Though, huh, I like the ring to it. It's got

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Speaker 4: a ring, doesn't it.

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Speaker 3: Rich.

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Speaker 5: How's everything going, Buddy, Everything's great.

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Speaker 6: Actually, I was up late last night with some Mountain

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Speaker 6: West after dark non conference play. They were taking on

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Speaker 6: the Idaho State Bengals. A little bit of a barn

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Speaker 6: burner there, but the Aztecs were able to leave with

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Speaker 6: a two and zero unscathed record and moving on to

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Speaker 6: face UCLA. The Bruins are coming to San Diego next.

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Speaker 4: I have a dark secret to tell you a little

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Speaker 4: bit later, okay about that game, and I feel harm

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Speaker 4: Hopefully I can tell you before Crack is with us,

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Speaker 4: because I feel like Craig is gonna look at me like,

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Speaker 4: are you serious, dude? I'm losing respect for you with

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Speaker 4: each comment you make. But that's in a second. Here,

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Speaker 4: let's start it with this riche. Dion Sanders coach Prime.

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Speaker 4: He goes in there with Colorado. They beat TCU. TCU

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Speaker 4: is favored by twenty one points. I mean literally, this

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Speaker 4: is a Hollywood script over here. Some of the nuggets

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Speaker 4: from the game. This is Colorado's first win versus a

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Speaker 4: top twenty team on the road since two thousand and two.

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Speaker 5: They were oh in twenty.

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Speaker 4: Seven since two thousand and two, playing a top twenty

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Speaker 4: team on the road, and in his first game he

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Speaker 4: gets it done. Shaduer Sanders was fantastic. We didn't know

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Speaker 4: about him on a higher level. He comes from Jackson

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Speaker 4: State and all he did was throw for over five

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Speaker 4: hundred yards and four touchdown passes. Travis Hunter was marvelous.

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Speaker 4: It was an insane performance by Colorado against the team.

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Speaker 4: Albeit they had a bunch of turnover but they were

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Speaker 4: in the National Championship game last season. There were not

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Speaker 4: a lot of people that thought he would win outright

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Speaker 4: as a twenty one point doug that was sensational yesterday.

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Speaker 6: Oh, it was the best watch on television. And that's

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Speaker 6: kind of insane to say, considering the slate of games

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Speaker 6: we had. But you're talking about down to the wire stuff.

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Speaker 6: Forty five, forty two. This is the stuff that college

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Speaker 6: football is aiming for. The NCAA wantstis the rule changes

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Speaker 6: the pace of play. They want more action offensively. They

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Speaker 6: don't want the clock to stop every first down. They

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Speaker 6: want things to be going on. If you're a fantasy

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Speaker 6: football player at the professional level, which I know many

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Speaker 6: people are, it's that my phone's buzzing with notifications.

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Speaker 3: So Buff stands.

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Speaker 6: I'm sure you had to charge your batteries after that

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Speaker 6: one with all ESPN notifications. It was electric, That's what

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Speaker 6: it was. And Neon Dion. Now Coach Prime has been

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Speaker 6: electrifying as a head coach. He did say something that

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Speaker 5: Okay, leading up to this game. That's what I like

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Speaker 5: to hear. What is it? This is the juicy stuff

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Speaker 3: Well, what Coach Prime said about unity.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I still to this moment disagree with it, and

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Speaker 6: I don't believe him. So yesterday I said he's one

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Speaker 6: out lide. He just there's no way he believes that

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Speaker 6: you can win without having a unified group, that you

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Speaker 6: being selfless, That you can win without having a performance

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Speaker 6: from Hunter who goes one hundred and twenty nine plays,

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Speaker 6: one hundred receiving yards and an interception. I mean they

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Speaker 6: I'm sure, yes, individual accolades are important to all these players,

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Speaker 6: But if you are going to play the game of football,

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Speaker 6: and Dion Sanders know this because he's been in a

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Speaker 3: You just do it.

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Speaker 6: It's the ultimate team sport. And guess what, Colorado is

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Speaker 6: the ultimate team right now? Because that looked like fun.

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Speaker 6: Not only was it a whoopin', but that looked like fun.

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Speaker 6: And man, I bet you there are a lot of

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Speaker 3: Of the woodwork this morning.

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Speaker 6: I bet there's a lot of group techs that are

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Speaker 6: lighting up for the first time in twenty years, going

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Speaker 6: how about.

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Speaker 5: Our Colorado Buffaloes.

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Speaker 4: Well, that's one thing is listen. The first thing is

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Speaker 4: when you're talking about the unity comment, Coach Prime said

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Speaker 4: before the game yesterday, I don't think you gotta have

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Speaker 4: certainly need to have good players, and they have massively

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Speaker 4: upgraded the talent level at Colorado already. You saw it

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Speaker 4: I mean goodness, and Ditte Sanders knows this. You have

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Speaker 4: You could look at the NFL. There are a lot

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Speaker 4: as some other teams. Look at the Chiefs for crying

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Speaker 4: out loud. The Chiefs lost Tyreek Hill and didn't skip

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Speaker 4: a beat, you know what I mean. And they've got

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Speaker 4: you're talking about mvs and juju. You know, like that's

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Speaker 4: not upper echelon stuff right there. That's not what the

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Speaker 4: it does take more than just talent. And so I

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Speaker 4: agree with you, Rich, I think that it's just I

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Speaker 4: don't know, it's a quote in the moment. I don't

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Speaker 5: It takes more than that in football.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it absolutely does.

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Speaker 6: And the other thing about coach Prime, and isn't it

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Speaker 6: amazing Shador Sanders five hundred and ten yards. You know,

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Speaker 6: we just talked about Hunter and I'm I'm look, we're

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Speaker 3: His is he Tyler Hunter? Is is Travis Travis.

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Speaker 6: Thank you Travis Hunter with a one hundred and ten

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Speaker 6: of the ball. I mean, these are emerging stars. We're

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Speaker 6: still talking about Coach Prime, right, We're still talking about

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Speaker 6: Coach Prime because he was quotable after the game. He

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Speaker 4: It was like Jordan's like a Hall of Fame enshrinement speech,

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Speaker 4: is what it reminded me of.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, believe now? Do you believe now? No? No, no,

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Speaker 3: no no.

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Speaker 6: I'm not answering your question until you answer mine. Do

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Speaker 6: you believe me now? Like it was, it was an

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Speaker 6: telling everybody out there, look, I can do this, and

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Speaker 6: everybody doubted me? Are many people doubted me? I think

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Speaker 6: there were some believers. I was curious about this, this experiment.

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Speaker 6: I really looked at it from This could be a

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Speaker 3: But I know I'm watching.

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Speaker 6: I know I'm interested, and I know what he did

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Speaker 6: And I know he's gonna recruit, and I know he's

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Speaker 6: going to get a lot of people through the door

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Speaker 6: in the transfer portal because he's going to promise them

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Speaker 6: a lot of things. And he I mean, he's almost

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Speaker 6: When when those videos went viral, even the ones that

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Speaker 3: You know, maybe two three four years.

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Speaker 6: In some cases, we're looking to win here, We're not looking,

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Speaker 3: There were a lot of people upset by that.

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Speaker 6: I was looking at this from a completely different lens.

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Speaker 6: I was saying, Look, this is a business. There are

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Speaker 6: you're talking about coordinators at some of these football programs.

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Speaker 6: You know, millions of dollars when you're talking about recruiting

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Speaker 3: So this is big business college football.

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Speaker 6: And I wanted to see if Dion Sanders could bring

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Speaker 6: the business aspect of this game, especially with name, image

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Speaker 6: and likeness, money flying everywhere, and transfer portal to Colorado

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Speaker 6: and get it righted immediately and buddy right out the gates.

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Speaker 6: I think we have our answer. Colorado is a team

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Speaker 4: Well, this is a man cash up, if you will,

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Speaker 4: Rich Hornberger. This is the best of Coach Prime yesterday.

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Speaker 4: The first part is what you were talking about where

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Speaker 4: And I have no issue with this Where there's a

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Speaker 4: the game, but it wasn't too flowery. It wasn't like,

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Speaker 4: look out, Coach Prime's here, all you naysayers get ready

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Speaker 4: to be wrong. It sounds like it was the opposite.

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Speaker 4: And here's what Coach Prime had to say to that reporter.

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Speaker 2: Hold on, hold on, oh no, you you believe that.

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Speaker 5: Huh, who said I didn't believe?

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Speaker 1: For no, no, I read through that, bull Jokie wrote,

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Speaker 1: not I read through that.

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Speaker 5: I sit the look did I write?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 7: No?

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Speaker 3: Con I asked my question, do you believe in what?

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Speaker 2: You don't believe? I believe you just answered it, you

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Speaker 4: Yeah, there's that. There's this at halftime, which is a.

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Speaker 8: Jee Travizoner has advertised over sixty steps.

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Speaker 5: How do you keep him fresh? In the second he

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Speaker 5: is him?

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Speaker 3: We missed them on two deep balls.

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Speaker 5: He get those two deep balls.

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Speaker 7: The hesman is at his crip chin and right now,

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Speaker 7: God bliss.

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Speaker 5: There's this also about Travis Hunter.

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Speaker 3: I don't know how many.

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Speaker 7: Snaps he played, but we gonna put a hot tub

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Speaker 6: Same with Coach Prime. It doesn't matter who you are,

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Speaker 4: It's entertainment, it's fined. Yeah, it's a lot of fun.

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Speaker 4: And if it's different, great. I don't know why that

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Speaker 4: That's what he is. I will say one for college football,

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Speaker 6: I will say one thing, Arrogance is endearing when you're successful.

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Speaker 4: And that's the thing is this is the perfect recipe

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Speaker 4: Right, So this season it's I think it's gonna be

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Speaker 4: All right, Rich, So listen. Coach Prime and Colorado stole

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Speaker 6: a time with broadcasting rights. If coach Prime and Shadure

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Speaker 6: Sanders and Caleb Williams and what we know and what

439
00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:46,199
Speaker 6: we've seen from Washington early this season. Now, I have

440
00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:47,879
Speaker 6: no idea how it's all gonna shake out, But do

441
00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:50,560
Speaker 6: you still think that it's going to be a mass

442
00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:54,240
Speaker 6: exodus in twenty twenty four? If we have this season

443
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Speaker 6: starting two years ago.

444
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Speaker 4: It absolutely changes the math. If there is a TV

445
00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:05,920
Speaker 4: deal in place, then we might not have clearly as

446
00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:06,760
Speaker 4: much movement.

447
00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:07,560
Speaker 5: We might have some.

448
00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:10,040
Speaker 4: But I hear what you're saying, and you got to

449
00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:12,840
Speaker 4: think about this, because my immediate reaction was like, no,

450
00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:16,240
Speaker 4: the Big ten there's still quite a bit more money

451
00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:20,560
Speaker 4: USC UCLA. They probably still jump ship. But if you're

452
00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:24,120
Speaker 4: locked into a deal, look at the ACC. Look at

453
00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:26,960
Speaker 4: all these hoops and all this red tape and all

454
00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:31,160
Speaker 4: these checks that schools would have to write to leave

455
00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:34,719
Speaker 4: the ACC because of their media rights deal through like

456
00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:38,320
Speaker 4: twenty eighty seven or whatever, it's like twenty thirty six

457
00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:41,280
Speaker 4: or something like that. Right, So it would have changed

458
00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:45,919
Speaker 4: the math. Coach prime at Colorado is huge, would have

459
00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:48,600
Speaker 4: been huge for the PAC twelve had it happened a

460
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Speaker 4: couple of years ago. I still think you see realignment

461
00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:55,960
Speaker 4: because you're seeing it everywhere. I still think it happens.

462
00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:57,800
Speaker 4: What do you think do you think all these twelve

463
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Speaker 4: teams would still stay put?

464
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Speaker 3: Here's the deal?

465
00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:04,359
Speaker 6: Like again, like you said, Big ten, maybe it's still

466
00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:08,600
Speaker 6: able to lure USC and UCLA away, and maybe that

467
00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:11,840
Speaker 6: gives a lot of these other teams some pause. But okay,

468
00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:15,679
Speaker 6: imagine with this hot start from the Huskies, what we

469
00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:20,359
Speaker 6: saw from Colorado, what we're seeing from USC, even started

470
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Speaker 6: three years ago, I don't think the Commissioner would be

471
00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:28,520
Speaker 6: having as much trouble getting a networks right deal. I mean,

472
00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:31,840
Speaker 6: because right now, I don't know about you, but it

473
00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:33,920
Speaker 6: sort of feels like there's gonna be a lot of

474
00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:38,320
Speaker 6: Colorado Buffalo's jerseys just starting to pop up in random,

475
00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:42,600
Speaker 6: large sports markets across the country, like all of a sudden.

476
00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:46,480
Speaker 6: It just sort of feels like there's this invisible ground swellve.

477
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Speaker 3: Support for this team.

478
00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:50,760
Speaker 6: It kind of it gets nauseating for some people because

479
00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:53,000
Speaker 6: people generally don't like front runners.

480
00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:54,120
Speaker 3: I never minded it.

481
00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:56,560
Speaker 6: If you like it, if it's fun to follow a winner,

482
00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:59,159
Speaker 6: go follow a winner. They're Yankee fans all over the

483
00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:01,560
Speaker 6: country because they were good for a long stretch. Same

484
00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:04,040
Speaker 6: with the Cowboys, Same with the Golden State Warriors, Same

485
00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:06,399
Speaker 6: with the Bulls of the nineties, Same with the Patriots

486
00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:07,680
Speaker 6: of recent Note.

487
00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:08,479
Speaker 3: Like it's fine.

488
00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:13,240
Speaker 6: I like if you have juice, like the PAC twelve

489
00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:16,920
Speaker 6: may have juice this season, and you're in the negotiating

490
00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:19,880
Speaker 6: room and you're a conference commissioner and you're not overplaying

491
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:21,920
Speaker 6: your hand, which I do think was a death now

492
00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:24,840
Speaker 6: for some of these negotiations that took place.

493
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Speaker 3: Man, I think things could look different right now.

494
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:32,960
Speaker 4: I mean they would look different, But how different is

495
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:35,800
Speaker 4: the question. I have a hard time believing all twelve

496
00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:38,520
Speaker 4: teams would still be staying put, but there's no way

497
00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:41,760
Speaker 4: to know that, and that certainly would have improved their

498
00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:44,840
Speaker 4: odds to not be reduced to the Pack two Pack two.

499
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:46,920
Speaker 4: As we sit here and talk about it right now,

500
00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:50,119
Speaker 4: starting in twenty twenty four, it's to Pack two unless

501
00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:52,840
Speaker 4: they absorbed them out in West and rebranded. Oh this

502
00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:56,200
Speaker 4: it's it's give me a headache. It's give me a headache.

503
00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:59,240
Speaker 4: By the way, when you think about PAC twelve quarterbacks,

504
00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:01,560
Speaker 4: a couple other guys to mention, as well as the

505
00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:04,760
Speaker 4: Heisman odds changing. We'll get to that momentarily. First, though,

506
00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:07,680
Speaker 4: our may man, Nick Cope, is what this this morning?

507
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:07,920
Speaker 3: Nick?

508
00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:08,479
Speaker 5: What's going on?

509
00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:08,680
Speaker 3: Man?

510
00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:09,520
Speaker 5: Good morning guys.

511
00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:13,560
Speaker 11: I think the operative name now is TUPAC for the conference.

512
00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:16,239
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's gotta be is where we're at.

513
00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:22,760
Speaker 4: It's like Pack two backwards exactly, Pack pack to Just wow,

514
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:25,040
Speaker 4: it was written in the stars all these years.

515
00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:26,639
Speaker 5: We should have known, we should have seen this.

516
00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:31,199
Speaker 11: Hey, Actually you could call it the PAC twelve and

517
00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:34,280
Speaker 11: zero right now, because they are the only Power five

518
00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:38,280
Speaker 11: conference that has not dropped a non conference.

519
00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:38,600
Speaker 3: Game to this point.

520
00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:41,639
Speaker 11: They're twelve and zero still got Oregon State coming up

521
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:45,919
Speaker 11: later today, got Northwestern at Rutgers noon Eastern. That's the

522
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:48,800
Speaker 11: first game the Oregon State San Jose State at three thirty.

523
00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:51,200
Speaker 11: But we're all looking forward to that top ten showdown

524
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:54,840
Speaker 11: tonight at seven thirty. Number five LSU, Number eight Florida

525
00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:59,600
Speaker 11: State from Orlando. Speaking of front runners Formula one going

526
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:02,879
Speaker 11: on right now, Max Verstappan is on the verge of

527
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:06,600
Speaker 11: winning again and that would set a Formula One record.

528
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:09,560
Speaker 11: It would be his tenth in a row, the most

529
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 11: consecutive wins in the sport. I've also been keeping an

530
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:17,680
Speaker 11: eye on the Feebo World Cup and Team USA had

531
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:22,840
Speaker 11: real battle here with Lithuania. It was a lobsided advantage

532
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:25,879
Speaker 11: for Lithuania in the first half, Team USA rally to

533
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:28,320
Speaker 11: make it a four point game enter in the fourth quarter.

534
00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:31,639
Speaker 11: It's currently a five point lead for Lithuania with twenty

535
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:33,679
Speaker 11: eight point nine to go. This is group play, so

536
00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:36,119
Speaker 11: the US is not done here if they lose. But

537
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,960
Speaker 11: with their struggle against Montenegro the other day and now

538
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:42,399
Speaker 11: what is likely going to be a loss here against

539
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:46,560
Speaker 11: Lithuania has not been a good week for Team USA,

540
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:50,400
Speaker 11: and baseball had Ronald Leccunya Junior homering for a third

541
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:54,240
Speaker 11: straight night in La Braves won their sixth straight overall

542
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 11: four to two win over the Dodgers Atlanta, with the

543
00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,959
Speaker 11: best record in the Big Leagues at ninety and five.

544
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 5: Five guys, back to you, Thanks Nick.

545
00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:07,080
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Speaker 4: Can I just talk trash about F one for a second?

551
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:25,840
Speaker 3: Risk here it?

552
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:30,760
Speaker 5: Nick mentioned this in his update ten straight wins? What

553
00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 5: are we doing? What is the competition doing over there?

554
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 5: I need a little bit of parody.

555
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:37,160
Speaker 4: I need to tune in and think, hey, maybe somebody

556
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:39,480
Speaker 4: outside of verstap and can win this thing.

557
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:41,960
Speaker 5: We always talk about college football.

558
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:46,600
Speaker 4: The lack of parody where it's Georgia, Alabama, Clemson, Ohio State,

559
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 4: rinse and repeat, rinse and repeat. F one makes college

560
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 4: football's parody look like the NFL's parody, Like, what are

561
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 4: we doing?

562
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:55,640
Speaker 5: F one?

563
00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 4: Goodness, let's step it up. These other teams ten in

564
00:28:58,880 --> 00:28:59,480
Speaker 4: a row.

565
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:00,600
Speaker 5: It's a joke.

566
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:03,040
Speaker 4: I mean, shout out to him. That's great, But what

567
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 4: are these other drivers doing? Goodness?

568
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, he's basically the only name I know. And

569
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:11,840
Speaker 6: it's a little bit from what I've heard from people

570
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:13,960
Speaker 6: who watch the sport, who follow the sport. It's a

571
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:16,760
Speaker 6: little bit of what we talk about with Ohio State

572
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:21,760
Speaker 6: and Alabama and Georgia now and obviously usc with Lincoln

573
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 6: Riley and what's happened with Caleb Williams. There, the rich

574
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:29,600
Speaker 6: get richer, you know, so winning it proceeds more winning

575
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:32,440
Speaker 6: because you know, the prize money's come in and the

576
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:35,440
Speaker 6: endorsement opportunities come in, and you can tune up that

577
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:39,560
Speaker 6: ride like nobody's business. And everybody's got some money, big

578
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:41,880
Speaker 6: money backers. But if you don't have a driver who's

579
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 6: capable and in the winner's circle a lot, well, then

580
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 6: that money starts to dry up a little bit. So

581
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 6: I think I think that's the reason why we're seeing

582
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:53,000
Speaker 6: Verse stop and have as much success in F one.

583
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:56,240
Speaker 6: But that's that's just through the grapevine, because I don't

584
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:58,520
Speaker 6: know if I've sat through an entire F one race

585
00:29:58,520 --> 00:29:59,240
Speaker 6: in my life.

586
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:01,520
Speaker 3: I've only watched some of.

587
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:06,480
Speaker 6: The previews for the Need for Speed biopic on on Netflix.

588
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 4: That's what I want to hear, are these communications between

589
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 4: driver and team of like, really again again, somebody wreck

590
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:17,640
Speaker 4: this guy? I mean good, somebody do something.

591
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:21,400
Speaker 3: Can we get the Mario carp banana peel on this dude? Yeah?

592
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:23,240
Speaker 3: Can we get one of the what are they called

593
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 3: the turtle shells to knock him out?

594
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 4: You need some red turtle shells, you know, we need

595
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:31,960
Speaker 4: the three that circulate around your vehicle, right, Like first

596
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 4: two might hit a wall or some trash, they might.

597
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:36,280
Speaker 5: Hit a banana. We need those three.

598
00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:39,800
Speaker 6: That's Princess Peach and Donkey Kong to take care of

599
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 6: this Dan.

600
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 5: Goodness. So we were talking about pac twelve quarterbacks.

601
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:48,680
Speaker 4: Here Rich a couple other guys beyond uh Michael Pennix Junior.

602
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:52,680
Speaker 4: You think about Shador Sanders, what he was able to

603
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:56,000
Speaker 4: do yesterday, but you add some other guys to the

604
00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 4: to the mix. Bo Nix at Nix to the mix.

605
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:03,200
Speaker 4: Right at Oregon, Cam Rising, who's coming back from that

606
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 4: acl very good quarterback at Utah, dj Lui Aungala Lay

607
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 4: tries to resurrect his career. He comes from Clemson. Now

608
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 4: he's at Oregon State. You've got all these guys in

609
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 4: the same conference. It's amazing the talent that you have there. Oh,

610
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 4: by the way, Caleb Williams who won the Heisman last year.

611
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 4: That's a lot of talent. And it is the last

612
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 4: glimpse of all of this as all but two teams

613
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 4: are moving on to different conferences next year.

614
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 6: Isn't that wild? Isn't that just absolutely wild? And you know, look,

615
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:43,160
Speaker 6: the Sharks are circling because we certainly know what's happening here.

616
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 6: The Mountwest commissioner was attending one of the Pac twelve

617
00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:51,480
Speaker 6: games this weekend. We're going to see a lot more news.

618
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 6: I don't know when it's coming, but on the heels

619
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 6: of the most recent announcement with Callen Stanford leaving the

620
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 6: conference and the conference it's now down to just two,

621
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 6: you know, there's gonna be more re alignment because the

622
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 6: PAC twelve and their executives and their commissioner and that

623
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:14,680
Speaker 6: team that's employed because they have a conference, they're going

624
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 6: to be looking to secure their their employment for next year.

625
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 3: Like that's how this works.

626
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 6: Like we think of conferences or leagues or even schools

627
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:29,400
Speaker 6: sometimes as just like entities, like they're just floating out

628
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 6: there making decisions on their own. Like USC is just

629
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:37,360
Speaker 6: a conglomeration of I don't know, stuff star stuff that

630
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 6: just sort of does things. It's not it's people. You

631
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 6: have presidents, you have athletic directors, you have coaches, like

632
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 6: those are the decision makers.

633
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 5: And at the conference level, that's the same thing.

634
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 6: Like George Kliikkough, I've met him, Like he's an actual

635
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:53,960
Speaker 6: guy of his number in my phone, Like that is

636
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 6: a human being who is looking for employment, secure employment.

637
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:01,200
Speaker 6: I can guarantee you tomorrow, the next day, and for

638
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 6: the next ten years if you can see to it. Like,

639
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:07,240
Speaker 6: so there's going to be more announcements made here in

640
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 6: the coming days, months, weeks.

641
00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 3: Maybe it's it's.

642
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 6: Going to happen because you can't just have two teams

643
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 6: floating out there occupying a conference where they're gonna play

644
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 6: each other ten times the season.

645
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 3: That's an impossibility, you know.

646
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like I can imagine the pack too, saying, hey, SEC,

647
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:32,320
Speaker 4: with your eight conference games, we're playing each other nine times?

648
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 5: How about that, right?

649
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:34,760
Speaker 3: Just switch it off home and away.

650
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:39,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the kickers, Like who gets even? Who gets odd?

651
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 4: You're like we swap off years a year after year craziness.

652
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:43,240
Speaker 3: Man.

653
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 4: All Right, we got a lot to get to coming

654
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 4: up next, the Heisman odds changing, and also let's do

655
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 4: some prop bets here.

656
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:53,240
Speaker 5: We got a lot to pick from.

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Speaker 4: We still have marquee matchups, right, We've got LSU, We've

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Speaker 4: got Florida State tonight. That's a rate matchup. You've got

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Speaker 4: Clemson Duke tomorrow night. We also Rich just a few

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Speaker 4: days from now, we got Lions Chiefs. So just those

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Speaker 4: three games alone some really interesting prop possibilities.

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Speaker 5: So we'll do a little two.

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Speaker 4: For one, little Heisman, little prop it up. That's right

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Speaker 4: around the corner. He's Rich Orenberger, Penn State, All American.

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Speaker 4: I'm Brian know Bill Krakenberger on the way, professional sports handicapper.

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Speaker 2: Count down Heisman watch.

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Speaker 4: Okay, so kind of interesting here, Rich where the Heisman

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Speaker 4: odds have shifted. So we're gonna start on Caesar's because

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Speaker 4: their odds are little bit different, and get to bet MGM.

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Speaker 5: Okay, on Caesar's.

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Speaker 4: After Colorado's sensational performance yesterday against TCU, Travis Hunter, the

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Speaker 4: wide receiver slash quarterback, He's now at twenty two to one.

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Speaker 4: He opened at eighty eighty to one odds.

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Speaker 5: Easy for me to say.

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Speaker 4: You also have Shador Sanders. He's at twenty eight to one.

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Speaker 4: He opened at one hundred to one. So the odds

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Speaker 4: have come down a lot now. That's on Caesar's. On BETMGM,

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Speaker 4: both players are.

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Speaker 5: At fifty to one odds.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 4: The first thing I think of is Dion Sanders saying

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Speaker 4: do you believe now? And they almost have to, like

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Speaker 4: sheepishly look down at the ground, like, no, I am

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Speaker 4: not betting on Travis or Schduer Sanders to win the Heisman,

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Speaker 4: because look, mane, you gotta win a bunch of games

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Speaker 4: to be in the running. I just don't see how

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Speaker 4: Colorado is gonna win enough games for them to be

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Speaker 4: serious contenders.

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Speaker 6: Here, okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna take a deep breath.

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Speaker 6: I'm going to channel my inner Jared Smith and Bill Krakenberg. Yes,

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Speaker 6: I can hold my nose and put some fun tickets

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Speaker 6: on bets that long right now. And here's the reason

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Speaker 6: why you get great value, especially at the bet MGM window.

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Speaker 6: If you, if you, if you cash that ticket, you're

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Speaker 6: gonna look like a genius. Here, here's the thing about

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Speaker 6: these long futures odds. You gotta look at it as

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Speaker 6: almost disposable. Look look for the best value possible. Don't

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Speaker 6: get me wrong. If you want a winning ticket, maybe wait,

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Speaker 6: I would say, wait till week four of the college

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Speaker 6: football season. Wait till week six of the college football season.

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Speaker 6: Even you know, you'll still be able to find great

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Speaker 6: value on some of these Heisman hopefuls, and some of

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Speaker 6: the narratives will start to coalesce, and it'll be easier

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Speaker 6: to see which direction the wind is blown. Because remember,

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Speaker 6: it's not just about how the player plays. It's also

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Speaker 6: about how many games your team is winning. And it's

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Speaker 6: also about the narrative, like is there a good story

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Speaker 6: behind this Heisman. That's what gets the votes.

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Speaker 3: So I'm with you, do I see it happening?

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Speaker 6: No, But if you've got a little disposable discretionary cash

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Speaker 6: that you can put some fifty to one long odds

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Speaker 6: futures bet on a couple of standouts from game one,

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Speaker 6: week one of the college football season, why not throw

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Speaker 6: a little cautia to the win.

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Speaker 4: Look, this isn't horse racing where you could go win

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Speaker 4: place or show like, hey, my guy, fitted my horse

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Speaker 4: finished in third place, I still get paid, right, Like,

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Speaker 4: that's not what this is. For the Heisman odds. Your

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Speaker 4: guy has to win it all where you get nothing.

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Speaker 4: So yet, it might be nice at the end of

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Speaker 4: the season if you have a fifty to one ticket

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Speaker 4: on Sanders or Travis Hunter at bet MGM. It might

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Speaker 4: be nice if one of those guys finishes like fourth

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Speaker 4: or something where you can bump out your chest and

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Speaker 4: be like, hey, pretty good bet, and I would respond

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Speaker 4: like yeah, and you lost your money, how great was it?

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Speaker 4: You're not gonna win the Heisman being a four and eighteen,

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Speaker 4: like they're gonna go five and seven at best.

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Speaker 5: Like this is don't get caught up in the hype here.

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Speaker 4: I hate to be the guy where we're having a

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Speaker 4: party here and I'm saying, hey, turn that music down.

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Speaker 5: All right, there's a curfew here in this air.

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Speaker 4: I hate to be that guy, but I'm telling you

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Speaker 4: it is not good for your bank roll to go

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Speaker 4: down that road.

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Speaker 6: There's no dancing in Beaumont because Brian No said, so okay.

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Speaker 4: Hey, unless unless you think, if I gaze at the

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Speaker 4: schedule here, unless you think Colorado is gonna farewell against

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Speaker 4: Oregon on the road USC Oregon state.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you've got Utah on the road.

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Speaker 4: Unless you think you're gonna do well there, I mean,

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Speaker 4: be my guest if you think that's gonna.

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Speaker 5: Be all right.

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Speaker 6: Here's the way I look at futures bets, especially Heisman odds,

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Speaker 6: since we've been doing this show especially, I look at

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Speaker 6: it like seasoning, like salt. Right, you know, you sprinkle

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Speaker 6: some salt on the meal, and you underdo it. You'd

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Speaker 6: be like this needs more salt, you know, so you

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00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 6: add a little bit more, and then you hit that

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Speaker 6: threshold where you're like I am going I'm like a

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Speaker 6: pinch away from having too much salt, Like you can't

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Speaker 6: overdo these future Heisman's bets, because, like you said, it

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Speaker 6: isn't horse racing. If you take like the last four

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Speaker 6: ponies in an eight eight horse race, like yeah, you

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Speaker 6: may have some good odds to hit on a winplay

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Speaker 6: show and you may make your money back or maybe

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Speaker 6: make a little chedder. In the case of the Heisman,

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Speaker 6: you gotta nail it, so you gotta be I guess

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Speaker 6: more selective. But Travis Hunter, I mean, he just did

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Speaker 6: something that we haven't seen anybody do in college football

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Speaker 6: for the last twenty years.

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Speaker 3: That's right.

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Speaker 6: He's playing on coach proms plan on having them play

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Speaker 6: two way all year long.

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Speaker 3: So I don't know.

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Speaker 6: I mean that that's an interesting little storyline there.

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Speaker 4: Hey man, there are a ton of players who have

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Speaker 4: awesome seasons, put up huge numbers and don't sniff the

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Speaker 4: Heisman because they're not on a team that wins enough.

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Speaker 4: Travis Hunter is sensational. One hundred and twenty nine plays

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Speaker 4: was insane, But I'm not betting on them because you

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Speaker 4: want your crescendo to come at the end, not at

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Speaker 4: the beginning. You don't want the Daytona five hundred for

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Speaker 4: your Heisman hopeful. You know what I mean, right, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: five hundred doesn't start with a milkshug. Yeah, all right,

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Speaker 4: come it up next, the biggest of the Biggins in

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Speaker 4: week one. We will get to that matchup next. Are

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Speaker 4: you ready to witness greatness?

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Speaker 1: Here's Brian no six year NFL veteran Rich Boornberger, and

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Speaker 5: Oh, good morning, everybody.

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Speaker 4: Hope your days off to a fantastic start here on

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Speaker 4: a Sunday as we ramp up toward kickoff. That's right,

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Speaker 4: we got three games today, Yes, this it's under two

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Speaker 4: hours from now.

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Speaker 5: Northwestern at Rutgers.

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Speaker 4: Baby, Thank goodness for LSU in Florida State tonight when

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Speaker 4: the lead is Northwestern and Rutgers and special bonus here

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Speaker 4: Crack is with us now, the one and only Bill

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Speaker 4: Krackenberger that's going on crack everything.

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Speaker 5: Good man.

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Speaker 8: Well, yeah, you know, we had some terrible storms here

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Speaker 8: the last two days. They were expecting this a week ago.

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Speaker 8: I don't know it was a week late, but it

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Speaker 8: literally rivers everywhere, banks of overflowing casinos. Just now I

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Speaker 8: just realize over other strips to living in the rain

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Speaker 8: stop twenty four hours ago, they're still.

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Speaker 3: Flooding everywhere over by the link.

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Speaker 8: But nice to have Rich Orenberger, the guy with the

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Speaker 8: closest guy on radio to my named Krackenberger with us today.

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Speaker 8: Last time I seen Rich, he was partaking in this

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Speaker 8: four foot beverage. I don't know where we were. This

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Speaker 8: was either like Cincinnati, New Orleans, one of the two.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I think it was in Cincy and it

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Speaker 6: was the yard House down the road from where the

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Speaker 6: Bengals play.

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Speaker 3: And yeah, it's not just a clever name.

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Speaker 6: Turns out they give you three foot tall beers, and

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Speaker 6: so I enjoyed one.

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Speaker 3: If all right, Joe, I got that on my phone still.

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Speaker 8: I thought I thought you'd like to see that.

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Speaker 3: I missed that beer every day. Thank you for reminding me.

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Speaker 8: But yeah, guys, we had some terrible weather here. So

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Speaker 8: I went over to my buddy's place. Ridiculous. He's got

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Speaker 8: an unbelievable set up penthouse. He's out of town, thirty

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Speaker 8: second floor, overlooking the whole city at Turnbury, seven million

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Speaker 8: dollars in a beautiful place.

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Speaker 3: No Internet.

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Speaker 8: So I went there too, And this is like two

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Speaker 8: different places I went to. Now I'm over right by

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Speaker 8: bed MGM. As a matter of fact, look, look what

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Speaker 8: if you guys see in the background there there's an

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Speaker 8: MGM in the background there.

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Speaker 3: If you could see that, Oh yeah, there's there's MGM.

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Speaker 8: So I'm right by MGM at another place here, and

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Speaker 8: I'm glad I got back on with you guys. And uh,

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Speaker 8: you know, kind of I was going crazy here, sweating

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Speaker 8: like an Italian on the witness stand.

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Speaker 4: It's one of my sayings, it's like, Rich, where were

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Speaker 4: you when you were doing your forest gump running through

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Speaker 4: the streets of like Utah something with your Comrax unit

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Speaker 4: looking for a connection.

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Speaker 6: It was Salt Lake City. I actually was flying to

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Speaker 6: call a game against the Utes, right, so we're getting

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Speaker 6: set up. We're going to be at Rice Eycle Stadium

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Speaker 6: later that that day for a night game, and I

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Speaker 6: had all of my broadcast equipment, got set up in

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Speaker 6: the hotel room. Same thing that practice went through. The

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Speaker 6: internet was dead, going out of the wall, and so

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Speaker 6: I called down to the front lobby. I'm just like, oh, yeah,

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Speaker 6: no problem, They'll set me up in a conference room.

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Speaker 3: Every conference room booked. So now I called something like.

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Speaker 6: Twenty different hotels to try to find one that would

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Speaker 6: like allow me to do this show.

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Speaker 3: I'm giving up.

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Speaker 6: It was like two am when I finally went to sleep,

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Speaker 6: woke up early, called some more. I ended up finding one.

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Speaker 6: There was one, and it was not in the best

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Speaker 6: neighborhood in the city. And I'm running down the streets

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Speaker 6: with thousands of dollars worth of broadcast equipment, and I

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Speaker 6: got set up in one of those business centers that

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00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 6: like you print off your boarding passes in. And that's

874
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:05,279
Speaker 6: how we did the show. That me, Me, Brian No

875
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 6: and jaredy Smith. But hey, crack, I appreciate that for it.

876
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:10,360
Speaker 6: I've been there, my brother, Thank you.

877
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:14,640
Speaker 8: Sorry again, guys, thanks to IOWA, Sam and Kiras are

878
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:16,239
Speaker 8: our tech guy. We got him out of bed. He

879
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:17,880
Speaker 8: was so mad, he just got He's like crack. I

880
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:19,239
Speaker 8: just got him, Man, what's up?

881
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:20,400
Speaker 1: You know?

882
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:23,960
Speaker 3: He just asked me, Bill, what fixed it?

883
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 8: I said my response, I don't know if he's if

884
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 8: he's a Seinfeld fan, but Johnson Rod, that was a

885
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:31,920
Speaker 8: line on Seinfeld when they fixed the bar. What do

886
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:34,560
Speaker 8: you need to fix Johnson Rod? But anyway, on't the

887
00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 8: sports guys and yeah, so you guys talked about Colorado already.

888
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:40,160
Speaker 5: I'm sure, Oh yeah, but what are your thoughts on?

889
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 3: Well, no, I just listen.

890
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:46,840
Speaker 8: I have talked to multiple bookmakers last night for actually

891
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:51,759
Speaker 8: in town, and I one told me they cannot get

892
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:54,280
Speaker 8: even if they win for the rest of the day,

893
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:56,839
Speaker 8: if they sweep the rest of the night games, they

894
00:45:56,840 --> 00:46:00,359
Speaker 8: could not get even with all of the dog parlay money.

895
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:02,279
Speaker 8: They started out plus eight and a half to one

896
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:07,040
Speaker 8: on the dog and took a twelve or fifteen thousand

897
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:10,480
Speaker 8: dollars bet at eight to one, and he said that

898
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:12,719
Speaker 8: we really can't get out for the day. Everyone bet

899
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:16,600
Speaker 8: little fifties, one hundred and thirties, twenties. I didn't even

900
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:18,600
Speaker 8: by the way, I didn't even know this. I didn't

901
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:20,440
Speaker 8: even know it was that like a money line bet

902
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:23,400
Speaker 8: that that was that big of a bet of a

903
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:26,319
Speaker 8: risk to the town. But now have you guys talked

904
00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:28,040
Speaker 8: about that at all? Did you realize that this was

905
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 8: a bad thing for the sports books?

906
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:32,759
Speaker 3: No? Oh god, they got killed. Yeah, I didn't know that.

907
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:34,000
Speaker 3: So all I got my bucket.

908
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:35,839
Speaker 8: I'm gonna be out there in a little while, out

909
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:38,319
Speaker 8: in front of MGM, and I'll see what I could

910
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:41,280
Speaker 8: do trying to raise some money for those sportsbooks.

911
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:44,840
Speaker 4: Those more unfortunate sports books. Your heart just bleeds for

912
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:45,799
Speaker 4: right crack.

913
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:49,839
Speaker 8: Yeah, no it it's a listen. Let's be honest. They

914
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:53,839
Speaker 8: have a losing weekend here once a year, normally once

915
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:58,440
Speaker 8: a weekend football season, but the last couple of years,

916
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:02,880
Speaker 8: oh my god, they have beaten down people. So all

917
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:05,680
Speaker 8: these all these sports books here have done very very

918
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 8: well on NFL Sundays. Saturdays is Saturdays too, but Sundays

919
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 8: they've done really, really well. And that's gonna happen when

920
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:15,239
Speaker 8: you have a big percentage of dogs, and we had

921
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:19,120
Speaker 8: some unbelievable dogs the last few years. There was a

922
00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 8: Sunday when two NFL fourteen point dogs, one outright, both

923
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:27,880
Speaker 8: of them. A lot of times people love putting these

924
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:31,880
Speaker 8: money line favorites in their parlay so oh, this is

925
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 8: just gonna.

926
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:33,439
Speaker 3: Give me a couple more bucks.

927
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:35,360
Speaker 8: Let me put you know, a fourteen and a half

928
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:38,480
Speaker 8: point favorite in and a seventeen point favorite in my

929
00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:42,319
Speaker 8: money line parlay. I think that's what was it? Buffalo?

930
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 8: Was it Buffalo Jacksonville? Maybe it was that a big

931
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 8: upset two seasons ago. Two seasons ago. I think it

932
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:51,360
Speaker 8: was Jacksonville at p ninety seven, nine to six games.

933
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:53,319
Speaker 5: Yeah, something like that a couple of years ago.

934
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:55,680
Speaker 8: That was another one who just did the sportsbooks clean

935
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:57,759
Speaker 8: up on those people that just throw the money line

936
00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:00,960
Speaker 8: parlays in there because they just figure it's, ah, that's

937
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 8: just a little extra money in there. It's easy to

938
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 8: easy to happen. But anyway, I was really surprised to hear,

939
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 8: especially the one. I'm not gonna mention the book, A

940
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:13,520
Speaker 8: giant book in town lose almost seven figures on money lines.

941
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 8: I did not know that that that kind of exposure

942
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:19,359
Speaker 8: was out there for the books. Like you said, if

943
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:21,279
Speaker 8: he won, if he swept out the end of the night,

944
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:22,239
Speaker 8: he said, we can't get even.

945
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:25,439
Speaker 4: It's funny, though, crack, because it shows you just how

946
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:29,560
Speaker 4: much hype there is with Colorado. Because typically you don't

947
00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:33,239
Speaker 4: have a sports book sweating it out, pulling for the

948
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:34,480
Speaker 4: twenty one point.

949
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:37,040
Speaker 5: Favorite to win the game. You know what I mean.

950
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:40,520
Speaker 4: But that's what you're explaining happened yesterday, where the book

951
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:43,400
Speaker 4: is like, come on, TCU, we're gonna take a bath

952
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:44,640
Speaker 4: if you don't pull this out.

953
00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:46,040
Speaker 5: And that's exactly what happened.

954
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 8: You know, if you ever watch some of these sportsbooks too,

955
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:49,920
Speaker 8: here in the in the sports books, when something like

956
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:53,200
Speaker 8: this happens, it's amazing, everyone going crazy, and you know

957
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:56,440
Speaker 8: in in the audience there, you know, in the sports book.

958
00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:59,000
Speaker 3: But once in a while you'll have the book makers.

959
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:02,120
Speaker 8: Like it's their money, come out of their pocket, throwing things,

960
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:03,080
Speaker 8: breaking TVs.

961
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:03,960
Speaker 3: I'm that serious.

962
00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:07,160
Speaker 8: I know someone that broke a TV and through something, uh,

963
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:11,120
Speaker 8: when something like this happened though, So anyway, yeah, yeah, so.

964
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:12,400
Speaker 3: What else is going on? Guys?

965
00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:15,319
Speaker 6: There goes the Christmas bonus, there goes the bread you're

966
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:16,279
Speaker 6: about to bring home.

967
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:18,640
Speaker 8: No, that's yeah, you're right, rich, That's why you're right.

968
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:21,719
Speaker 8: So really it is indirectly, you're very good rich. It

969
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:23,920
Speaker 8: is coming out of their pocket because it does affect

970
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:24,480
Speaker 8: their bonuses.

971
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:26,200
Speaker 3: Very good. What's what's interesting?

972
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:28,160
Speaker 6: Crack is you know, there was a lot of talk

973
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:31,120
Speaker 6: obviously leading up to this game, and coach Prime is

974
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:34,880
Speaker 6: driving handle and that's what's that's what's fascinating to me.

975
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:37,759
Speaker 6: Like Brian just said, and like you just explained to us,

976
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:40,000
Speaker 6: the exposure on this game shows you that.

977
00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:41,760
Speaker 3: Colorado is a hot ticket.

978
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:45,479
Speaker 6: Like, who was really running to the window to bet

979
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:50,520
Speaker 6: the Buffaloes a year ago? The answer is absolutely nobody. Like, Okay,

980
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:53,160
Speaker 6: Lions Chiefs, that's going to be a banger. I mean,

981
00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:55,920
Speaker 6: there's gonna be tons of cash coming in and obviously

982
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:58,719
Speaker 6: there isn't gonna be as much exposure. But but for

983
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:03,279
Speaker 6: a situation like this, yes, my goodness, Like it's just

984
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:06,640
Speaker 6: it seems almost obscene to imagine a team with one

985
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:09,360
Speaker 6: win from a year ago can have a turnaround like

986
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:12,280
Speaker 6: this and generate this much interest in this much revenue

987
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:15,360
Speaker 6: for sports books or I should say liability for sports

988
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:18,839
Speaker 6: books in this case. But that's the reality we're living in.

989
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:24,160
Speaker 6: Dion Sanders, coach Prime, if he's proving nothing else to

990
00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:28,200
Speaker 6: college football programs, it's you may want to look at

991
00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:31,719
Speaker 6: having a guy who's splashy on social media. You may

992
00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:33,960
Speaker 6: want to look at having a guy who knows how

993
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:38,239
Speaker 6: to blow the horn for the university and to have

994
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:41,960
Speaker 6: those moments in front of the cameras. He's changing the game.

995
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:43,959
Speaker 6: He is completely changing the game.

996
00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:46,680
Speaker 4: By the way, Crag, we looked at a story from

997
00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:50,440
Speaker 4: two different perspectives here, and I'm curious where you come

998
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:52,959
Speaker 4: out on this. If you look at everything Rich talked

999
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:57,080
Speaker 4: about with Colorado, the Heisman odds have changed a lot.

1000
00:50:57,320 --> 00:51:00,680
Speaker 4: You look at Travis Hunter, the two way player, He's

1001
00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:03,560
Speaker 4: gone from eighty to one to at some shops twenty

1002
00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:06,959
Speaker 4: two to one. And also Shador Sanders, who threw five

1003
00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:11,000
Speaker 4: four touchdown passes over five hundred yards yesterday, He's gone

1004
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:13,640
Speaker 4: at some shops from one hundred to one to twenty

1005
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:17,880
Speaker 4: eight to one. I say, I'm not touching that. Although

1006
00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:21,359
Speaker 4: those guys were electric, what's Colorado gonna be this year?

1007
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:22,040
Speaker 3: Four and eight?

1008
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:25,920
Speaker 4: I mean maybe five and seven. They're not winning the Heisman.

1009
00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:28,200
Speaker 4: I'm not laying a dollar on those guys, even though

1010
00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:29,520
Speaker 4: they're sensational players.

1011
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:31,080
Speaker 5: That's the way the Heisman goes.

1012
00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:33,680
Speaker 4: It's littered with a bunch of dudes who put up numbers,

1013
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:36,640
Speaker 4: who are special players that aren't on winning teams and

1014
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:38,040
Speaker 4: don't sniff winning.

1015
00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:41,759
Speaker 8: The award, Very good, Brian, way too late. You know,

1016
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:44,600
Speaker 8: it's like someone sees something on TV happen, they react.

1017
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:47,200
Speaker 8: The sports books are ahead of you. It's already baked in.

1018
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:48,800
Speaker 8: I like to say the word baked in. It's already

1019
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:51,400
Speaker 8: baked in. They already know the way the public's going.

1020
00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:55,439
Speaker 8: So therefore they have used their applied pod odds. Let's

1021
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:58,919
Speaker 8: call it to their line making. And you're gonna get

1022
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:01,560
Speaker 8: way too much low of odds. But you said something

1023
00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:02,960
Speaker 8: good to what are they gonna go forward to?

1024
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:03,480
Speaker 3: You're right?

1025
00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:06,520
Speaker 8: I mean, but it's all in the moment. The heat

1026
00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:08,280
Speaker 8: of the moment is the reason why the sports books

1027
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:10,400
Speaker 8: make the money they make too, because you know people

1028
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:12,560
Speaker 8: do that. They they bet with emotion, they bet with

1029
00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:14,399
Speaker 8: something that's right in front of them. And it's something

1030
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:17,640
Speaker 8: I preach against all the time, of course. And you

1031
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:20,040
Speaker 8: know that type of a pool, a futures market, I

1032
00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:23,000
Speaker 8: don't care for anyway, it's heavily juiced, thirty forty fifty

1033
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:26,120
Speaker 8: juiced out of it. I like betting more of the

1034
00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:29,759
Speaker 8: week to week matchups, which to be real blunt too.

1035
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:31,759
Speaker 8: You know, I don't know if you guys get into

1036
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:36,360
Speaker 8: these three games today that are on this market, that's

1037
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:39,000
Speaker 8: for this first week. Well do they call that? They

1038
00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:40,759
Speaker 8: call it week zero. I guess a lot of the

1039
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:44,000
Speaker 8: wise guys week zero. This is week one. Even these

1040
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:46,880
Speaker 8: three Sunday games, these have been on the board for

1041
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:50,280
Speaker 8: three four months. So this is a very efficient market,

1042
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:53,080
Speaker 8: just like Week one in the NFL is a very

1043
00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:57,960
Speaker 8: efficient market. These sports books have have have had plenty

1044
00:52:58,040 --> 00:53:00,400
Speaker 8: of time. There's talk about these game game is just

1045
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:03,640
Speaker 8: talk about even the Thursday game the Chiefs and the Lions.

1046
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:05,960
Speaker 8: And did you guys go in to prop it up yet?

1047
00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:07,000
Speaker 8: I apologize, we.

1048
00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:12,400
Speaker 6: Good, We will hear from from the from the wise

1049
00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:13,880
Speaker 6: wise man himself.

1050
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:15,200
Speaker 3: No good, good good?

1051
00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:17,080
Speaker 8: Okay, so we'll get into that. But yeah, though, so

1052
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:19,920
Speaker 8: this is a very efficient market. I don't mean to

1053
00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 8: take the conversation from here to there. My add is

1054
00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:23,880
Speaker 8: going a little crazy. But I just something else I

1055
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:25,640
Speaker 8: was I wanted to say upon a note down to

1056
00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:28,160
Speaker 8: myself to make sure I mentioned how efficient.

1057
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:28,440
Speaker 3: The market is.

1058
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:31,880
Speaker 8: Only week one right now, though, guys, Week one, uh,

1059
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:35,080
Speaker 8: that's been up for a while. As far as you know,

1060
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:38,240
Speaker 8: future bets for week two, three four, there's some great

1061
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:41,680
Speaker 8: low hanging fruits still out there. Uh, with these markets

1062
00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:45,040
Speaker 8: that and you know, don't let's not forget this too.

1063
00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:46,680
Speaker 8: I guess we'll talk about this next week. Next week's

1064
00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:50,400
Speaker 8: show too. Giant over correction a lot from week one

1065
00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:50,879
Speaker 8: to week two.

1066
00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:52,000
Speaker 3: We talked about that last year.

1067
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:55,759
Speaker 8: People just react based on what happened week one. But

1068
00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:56,799
Speaker 8: all right, I'll stop talking.

1069
00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:57,000
Speaker 3: Guys.

1070
00:53:57,880 --> 00:54:01,320
Speaker 6: Hey, Actually, that's something fast that you just said, because

1071
00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:04,480
Speaker 6: it correlates to something that I just I just heard

1072
00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:08,000
Speaker 6: from a college football coach this week. His thought process

1073
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:11,440
Speaker 6: was when you see a team out there week zero

1074
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:15,640
Speaker 6: versus week one, or week one versus week two, he said,

1075
00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:18,920
Speaker 6: the greatest corrections are going to come from week one

1076
00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:22,600
Speaker 6: to week two? Is that true with sports books? With handicappers? Also,

1077
00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:26,640
Speaker 6: do we see like the same wave of correction occur

1078
00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:29,880
Speaker 6: in just that opening week between I should say, the

1079
00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:31,720
Speaker 6: opening week and the second week of the season.

1080
00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:35,759
Speaker 8: Very good, especially, you know, I'll tell you would think

1081
00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:38,560
Speaker 8: the wise guys would correct the line right away. There's

1082
00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:41,839
Speaker 8: so much square money in the marketplace. And I don't

1083
00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:44,279
Speaker 8: mean to beat down squares. I was a square for

1084
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:47,480
Speaker 8: many years, and and you know, meaning square is that

1085
00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:49,719
Speaker 8: you know, you're just having fun, you're you know, break it,

1086
00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:51,719
Speaker 8: open a beer and enjoying a game.

1087
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:54,080
Speaker 3: I have no problem with that. All. I'm so square,

1088
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Speaker 3: I'm rectangular.

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Speaker 8: Oh sorry, you know what, Right when I said break

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00:54:57,880 --> 00:54:59,600
Speaker 8: open a beer, I'm saying Richi's gonna think I'm talk

1091
00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:00,959
Speaker 8: about him that free foot beer.

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00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:03,720
Speaker 3: I really might. I might even be a trapezoid.

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00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:08,920
Speaker 8: Yeah no, but no, there is so much money and

1094
00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:12,120
Speaker 8: volume of people bet in twenty thirty forty bucks, fifty

1095
00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:16,719
Speaker 8: bucks that it overcomes the wise guy side. Even though

1096
00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:20,880
Speaker 8: will sharpen up the lines. When I say wise guy side,

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00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:24,400
Speaker 8: there's only about five or six groups they're called syndicate

1098
00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:27,319
Speaker 8: sports betting groups that actually move the numbers. And it's

1099
00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:30,359
Speaker 8: very hard to move an NFL side. We're talking more

1100
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:33,840
Speaker 8: of totals, more of college totals. College totals are the

1101
00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:36,600
Speaker 8: that's really the way I like the anyway. I'm not

1102
00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:38,480
Speaker 8: really a side guy. I do bet sides. I do

1103
00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:41,799
Speaker 8: give outside and bet sides, but my college totals that

1104
00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:44,480
Speaker 8: have hit, you know, a much much higher rate, almost

1105
00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:48,960
Speaker 8: fifty eight percent in lifetime. But what I'm talking about, though,

1106
00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:52,960
Speaker 8: is the sports books. They put up a line. Yes

1107
00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:56,480
Speaker 8: they do intend to get wise guy money, but they

1108
00:55:56,600 --> 00:56:01,240
Speaker 8: know based on Week one, if something stupid happen. Let's

1109
00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:05,560
Speaker 8: say the Chiefs blow out the Lions forty two to

1110
00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:06,840
Speaker 8: seven or something, and I.

1111
00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:08,719
Speaker 3: Said, Wow, the Chiefs are even though they won a

1112
00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:09,160
Speaker 3: Super Bowl.

1113
00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:11,760
Speaker 8: Wow, they're really really ready for this year or whatever

1114
00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:13,399
Speaker 8: it may be, or one of these teams that were

1115
00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:16,799
Speaker 8: that we're expecting to have a good year. But I'll

1116
00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:19,960
Speaker 8: tell you, speaking of that, add went wild again the

1117
00:56:20,080 --> 00:56:26,560
Speaker 8: parody this year. There's no really strong standout team. I mean,

1118
00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:29,600
Speaker 8: just think, would you guys think that Buffalo and the

1119
00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:32,799
Speaker 8: Jets would be like a two point line h in

1120
00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:35,319
Speaker 8: the beginning of last season for this year? Like there,

1121
00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:38,000
Speaker 8: you know, you think Buffalo is a stronger team. There

1122
00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:41,319
Speaker 8: isn't really a strong standout team.

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00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:42,080
Speaker 3: Let me tell you something.

1124
00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:45,600
Speaker 8: Kansas City can easily lose the game on Thursday night.

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00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:47,640
Speaker 5: Just hey crack, think about that too.

1126
00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:50,560
Speaker 4: What you're saying is think about the forty nine ers

1127
00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:54,360
Speaker 4: and all of their talent going to Pittsburgh and what

1128
00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:56,239
Speaker 4: San Francisco's favored by three?

1129
00:56:56,520 --> 00:56:57,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what I mean?

1130
00:56:57,200 --> 00:57:00,160
Speaker 4: Like that just shows you how how close these teams are.

1131
00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:03,920
Speaker 4: Because the equivalent in college football between those two teams

1132
00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:07,000
Speaker 4: and those two rosters where they are right now, that

1133
00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:09,800
Speaker 4: line would be way more inflated than just three.

1134
00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:11,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, you have a good point.

1135
00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:14,400
Speaker 8: Now, on the other side of the spectrum, there's some

1136
00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:16,800
Speaker 8: bad teams. I have to tell you, there are some

1137
00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:20,680
Speaker 8: bad teams. When you see a Washington given seven to Arizona,

1138
00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:24,280
Speaker 8: you know Arizona must be bad. Not that they've given up,

1139
00:57:24,280 --> 00:57:27,160
Speaker 8: but they kind of given up with that the quarterback

1140
00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:32,040
Speaker 8: situation there. But then again, I let this game go

1141
00:57:32,080 --> 00:57:33,800
Speaker 8: to seven and a half by next week when we're

1142
00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:36,240
Speaker 8: on air. I got to tell you something, I'm not

1143
00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:38,560
Speaker 8: betting why I would actually look to Arizona. One of

1144
00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:40,600
Speaker 8: the advantages of being in Vegas here you'll get those

1145
00:57:40,600 --> 00:57:43,520
Speaker 8: hooks a lot on teams. And you know, even though

1146
00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:46,440
Speaker 8: Arizona is supposed to be so bad, they're gonna be

1147
00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:48,200
Speaker 8: getting seven and a half from a Washington squad. I

1148
00:57:48,200 --> 00:57:51,320
Speaker 8: don't think much of anyway. That's a lot of points.

1149
00:57:51,320 --> 00:57:53,840
Speaker 8: But I do think Arizona is going to be a

1150
00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:55,560
Speaker 8: bad team for the year. So on the other side

1151
00:57:55,560 --> 00:57:58,000
Speaker 8: of that, I think Arizona and you know, the two

1152
00:57:58,080 --> 00:58:00,480
Speaker 8: teams that I bet against on futures going to give

1153
00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:02,720
Speaker 8: you guys, right now, it's Arizona. I went under four

1154
00:58:02,760 --> 00:58:04,920
Speaker 8: and a half, ran around the strip betting that the

1155
00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:08,280
Speaker 8: other day minus one twenty and one thirty, and then

1156
00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:10,040
Speaker 8: the other one was Houston.

1157
00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:12,400
Speaker 3: I bet under Houston. Listen the first week.

1158
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Speaker 8: I mean there, that's the biggest line of the week,

1159
00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:15,680
Speaker 8: the Baltimore Houston line.

1160
00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:18,520
Speaker 3: Bet it's about ten. But I bet under Houston also.

1161
00:58:18,760 --> 00:58:20,200
Speaker 8: So there is some teams I think are going to

1162
00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:22,880
Speaker 8: be bad, but as far as good teams, we just

1163
00:58:22,920 --> 00:58:25,160
Speaker 8: don't know. We don't know what's going on in Cincinnati.

1164
00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:27,840
Speaker 8: And a lot of my guys who think that Cleveland

1165
00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:31,000
Speaker 8: is a lot better than they have been every year.

1166
00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:33,240
Speaker 8: They're picked to be so good every year. They're a

1167
00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:36,920
Speaker 8: sharp side out here for futures. But there's so many

1168
00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:39,160
Speaker 8: teams that I can tell you right now are supposed

1169
00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:41,720
Speaker 8: to be so much better. And even the wise guys

1170
00:58:41,880 --> 00:58:44,160
Speaker 8: on the over unders, they're all saying lay like over

1171
00:58:44,200 --> 00:58:48,160
Speaker 8: which it's unbelievable. Atlanta, Baltimore, Cleveland. Well, I can't say

1172
00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:51,680
Speaker 8: Cincinnata is the quarterback situation, though I'm hearing that Burrow's fine.

1173
00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:54,560
Speaker 8: I'm as close to one hundred percent as he can be.

1174
00:58:54,720 --> 00:58:57,360
Speaker 8: But going back to what you said, San fran Pittsburgh.

1175
00:58:57,440 --> 00:59:00,400
Speaker 8: There's so many teams. I guess our raider here. I

1176
00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:02,840
Speaker 8: always consider them Oakland Raiders, But I guess our Raiders

1177
00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:04,040
Speaker 8: are supposed to be pretty bad.

1178
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Speaker 4: You your mind is raised, it is, I'm not.

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Speaker 8: This was all built up with me. I had miss

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00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:13,360
Speaker 8: I had misplaced rage on the way over here. I

1181
00:59:13,440 --> 00:59:16,080
Speaker 8: really did. Because then, don't worry. I had a bottle

1182
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Speaker 8: of water in my pocket, and don't it exploded all

1183
00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:21,720
Speaker 8: over my inside my pants walking into here.

1184
00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:24,920
Speaker 3: So it's like, I just just misplaced rage. I'm sorry.

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Speaker 4: it's the biggest matchup in college football of week one.

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Speaker 4: It's number five LSU against number eight Florida State. It's

1210
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Speaker 4: tonight seven thirty Eastern time on EBC neutral site game

1211
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Speaker 4: in Orlando.

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Speaker 5: And we got a little bit of line movement over here.

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01:01:00,520 --> 01:01:00,760
Speaker 3: Crack.

1214
01:01:00,840 --> 01:01:02,120
Speaker 5: We've got LSU.

1215
01:01:02,200 --> 01:01:04,960
Speaker 4: They're down to a point and a half favorite, So

1216
01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:08,320
Speaker 4: it's moved a whole point overnight. Is some money's coming

1217
01:01:08,360 --> 01:01:12,560
Speaker 4: in on the Knowles plus the points here, so LSU

1218
01:01:12,680 --> 01:01:14,480
Speaker 4: minus a point and a half the total is fifty

1219
01:01:14,480 --> 01:01:15,280
Speaker 4: six and a half.

1220
01:01:15,840 --> 01:01:17,280
Speaker 5: You gotta lean in this game, crack.

1221
01:01:18,320 --> 01:01:20,640
Speaker 4: You always say you don't just because it's on TV,

1222
01:01:20,800 --> 01:01:21,920
Speaker 4: you don't have to bet on it.

1223
01:01:22,200 --> 01:01:25,400
Speaker 3: Oh no, everyone does, not me, But I know everyone

1224
01:01:25,480 --> 01:01:28,120
Speaker 3: hass to bet on TV. I let you Florida State.

1225
01:01:28,560 --> 01:01:32,600
Speaker 8: Yeah, no, it this game. It's funny. There's not one

1226
01:01:32,640 --> 01:01:34,400
Speaker 8: difference in line I have. I look at a lot

1227
01:01:34,440 --> 01:01:37,640
Speaker 8: a line service, a live odds from everywhere, like in

1228
01:01:37,680 --> 01:01:42,640
Speaker 8: the world, offshore, across the pond, I mean across the pond,

1229
01:01:42,720 --> 01:01:46,720
Speaker 8: and also in the States here and every single sports

1230
01:01:46,720 --> 01:01:49,360
Speaker 8: book has fifty six and a half. So it opened

1231
01:01:49,440 --> 01:01:51,840
Speaker 8: up fifty five. Fifty four and a half went up

1232
01:01:51,840 --> 01:01:55,160
Speaker 8: a little bit, But the more important move was LSU

1233
01:01:55,280 --> 01:01:56,600
Speaker 8: opening up again.

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01:01:56,720 --> 01:01:57,040
Speaker 3: Guys.

1235
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Speaker 8: This is three four months ago, literally three months ago,

1236
01:02:00,480 --> 01:02:02,800
Speaker 8: opening up at three down to one and a half.

1237
01:02:02,840 --> 01:02:06,800
Speaker 8: As Brian says, everywhere, let's see bet MGM has one

1238
01:02:06,800 --> 01:02:08,680
Speaker 8: and a half minus one and a half minus fifteen

1239
01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:12,440
Speaker 8: here in town. LSU Florida State. This is gonna be

1240
01:02:12,480 --> 01:02:14,880
Speaker 8: a everyone's looking forward to see a game like this

1241
01:02:14,960 --> 01:02:16,920
Speaker 8: on TV. I understand. I know you guys have to

1242
01:02:16,960 --> 01:02:20,360
Speaker 8: have a bet. I would enjoy the game. Look look

1243
01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:24,800
Speaker 8: at some live betting maybe on this game, and you know,

1244
01:02:24,880 --> 01:02:27,760
Speaker 8: try to put yourself in the public shoes. We talked

1245
01:02:27,760 --> 01:02:31,200
Speaker 8: about this all year last year, every week, weekend, week out,

1246
01:02:31,880 --> 01:02:36,080
Speaker 8: countdown to kickoff. You just want to in the end,

1247
01:02:36,320 --> 01:02:39,560
Speaker 8: you want to be on the bookmaker's side. So you

1248
01:02:39,560 --> 01:02:41,920
Speaker 8: could think with the public sitting down and looking at

1249
01:02:41,920 --> 01:02:45,800
Speaker 8: their looking at you know, if LSU scores right away,

1250
01:02:45,800 --> 01:02:47,680
Speaker 8: they say, oh my god, this is going to be

1251
01:02:47,680 --> 01:02:48,320
Speaker 8: a blowout.

1252
01:02:48,520 --> 01:02:51,040
Speaker 3: I knew LSU. I should have bet the pre flop.

1253
01:02:51,320 --> 01:02:52,120
Speaker 3: And what happens.

1254
01:02:52,320 --> 01:02:55,680
Speaker 8: The line gets over adjusted because everyone's betting LSU and

1255
01:02:55,680 --> 01:02:58,160
Speaker 8: the bookmaker knows that already they're going to overjust the

1256
01:02:58,240 --> 01:03:02,160
Speaker 8: other side's probably correct, like in this movement here. I

1257
01:03:02,200 --> 01:03:04,640
Speaker 8: don't have a side in this game, but I after

1258
01:03:04,680 --> 01:03:07,120
Speaker 8: the line was three, I probably won't be I probably

1259
01:03:07,160 --> 01:03:09,440
Speaker 8: wouldn't look to the Florida State. I may look more

1260
01:03:09,440 --> 01:03:13,040
Speaker 8: at LSU, but again not betting this one. But you

1261
01:03:13,080 --> 01:03:14,880
Speaker 8: guys will all be happy to know by the end

1262
01:03:14,880 --> 01:03:16,440
Speaker 8: of this show, I will have a little bit of

1263
01:03:16,440 --> 01:03:17,120
Speaker 8: a play for you.

1264
01:03:17,720 --> 01:03:20,320
Speaker 6: All right, all right, you know, and then just focusing

1265
01:03:20,360 --> 01:03:22,760
Speaker 6: on the battles that we're gonna see.

1266
01:03:22,800 --> 01:03:24,600
Speaker 3: You got Jayden Daniels and.

1267
01:03:24,520 --> 01:03:29,960
Speaker 6: Obviously Jordan Travis out there for LSU and FSU respectively.

1268
01:03:30,160 --> 01:03:33,160
Speaker 6: Jordan Travis a dual threat quarterback but with a big

1269
01:03:33,320 --> 01:03:36,320
Speaker 6: arm average over two hundred and eighty passing yards per

1270
01:03:36,400 --> 01:03:40,480
Speaker 6: game a year ago. Gets his receiver, Johnny Wilson back

1271
01:03:40,520 --> 01:03:44,400
Speaker 6: who had nearly nine hundred yards receiving in twenty two.

1272
01:03:45,000 --> 01:03:48,680
Speaker 6: And then they got the tight end what's his name again, Bell,

1273
01:03:48,920 --> 01:03:52,600
Speaker 6: Jaheim Bell through the transfer portal. He can absolutely create

1274
01:03:52,640 --> 01:03:56,560
Speaker 6: mismatches with linebackers downfield. And then they got a deep

1275
01:03:56,600 --> 01:04:00,200
Speaker 6: threat by the name of Keon Coleman as well. And

1276
01:04:00,280 --> 01:04:02,880
Speaker 6: so you look at him and you look at that

1277
01:04:03,120 --> 01:04:06,680
Speaker 6: FSU offense and you say dynamic. Well, well, you look

1278
01:04:06,720 --> 01:04:09,080
Speaker 6: over at Jaden Daniels and what he did last year

1279
01:04:09,160 --> 01:04:13,040
Speaker 6: rushing for over eight hundred yards and eleven touchdowns combined

1280
01:04:13,080 --> 01:04:16,640
Speaker 6: with nearly three thousand yards through the air and seventeen touchdowns.

1281
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Speaker 6: I mean, this is truly going to be a battle

1282
01:04:20,120 --> 01:04:24,920
Speaker 6: of top ten teams top five quarterbacks arguably depending on

1283
01:04:24,960 --> 01:04:27,480
Speaker 6: what book you look at in terms of Heisman odds,

1284
01:04:27,880 --> 01:04:31,080
Speaker 6: and a front seven on both sides of the ball

1285
01:04:31,160 --> 01:04:35,240
Speaker 6: with some serious, serious talent. There's NFL talent all over

1286
01:04:35,280 --> 01:04:38,560
Speaker 6: these rosters. And when you talk about a marquee game

1287
01:04:38,720 --> 01:04:41,840
Speaker 6: to kick off Week one of the NFL season, this

1288
01:04:41,880 --> 01:04:44,680
Speaker 6: is what they talk about. This has playoff implications all

1289
01:04:44,680 --> 01:04:48,040
Speaker 6: over the place. Absolutely it does. I'll get you a

1290
01:04:48,080 --> 01:04:49,480
Speaker 6: couple of odds on this thing.

1291
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Speaker 4: And then also I've got a bone to pick with

1292
01:04:52,440 --> 01:04:56,400
Speaker 4: the bookmakers and also the statisticians. I'm just picking bones

1293
01:04:56,480 --> 01:04:58,520
Speaker 4: left and right. We'll get to that momentarily. First, though,

1294
01:04:58,720 --> 01:05:01,480
Speaker 4: our main man, Nick Cope with us this morning. May

1295
01:05:01,560 --> 01:05:02,680
Speaker 4: what's going on, man.

1296
01:05:02,800 --> 01:05:03,960
Speaker 3: What's going on? Guys?

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Speaker 11: Well, another Dallas Cowboy just got paid. ESPN reports Cowboys

1298
01:05:08,240 --> 01:05:11,080
Speaker 11: and right tackle Terrence Steele have agreed to a five year,

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Speaker 11: eighty six point eight million dollar contract extension. The report

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Speaker 11: says fifty million is guaranteed and the deal is worth

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Speaker 11: all the way up to potential a ninety one point

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Speaker 11: eight million with all the incentives. So Steele joins teammate

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Speaker 11: Zach Martin and Trey Von Diggs in getting extensions before

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Speaker 11: the start of the season. Three more college football games

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Speaker 11: coming up today, Northwestern at Rutgers at noon eastern, Number

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Speaker 11: eighteen Oregon State is at San Jose State at three

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Speaker 11: point thirty. And then, as you guys just touched on

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Speaker 11: that Top ten showdown between number five LSU and number

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Speaker 11: eight Florida State that is tonight seven thirty eastern in Orlando.

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Speaker 11: The Action Network reports Kansas quarterback Jalen Daniels is expected

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Speaker 11: to play in the jayhawks next game on Friday, after

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Speaker 11: he missed their season opener with back tightness.

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Speaker 5: FEEBA World Cup Team USA lost to Uania one ten

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Speaker 5: to one oh four.

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Speaker 11: The US finish a second in the group and faces

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Speaker 11: Italy in the quarterfinals now on Tuesday. And finally, in

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Speaker 11: auto racing, Max verse Stappen won the Italian Grand Prix

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Speaker 11: for a record tenth consecutive victory.

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Speaker 5: Guys, back to you, Thank.

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Speaker 3: You very much. Nick.

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Speaker 4: It is Fox Sports Radios Countdown to Kickoff presented by

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Speaker 4: Bett MGM. Okay, So we're talking Heisman odds here. Pretty

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Speaker 4: interesting matchup in this LSU Florida State game. Where you

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Speaker 4: look at the two quarterbacks, they're third and fourth in

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Speaker 4: the Heisman odd pecking order.

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Speaker 3: Yep.

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Speaker 4: So you look at just the top four guys, it's

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Speaker 4: Caleb Williams at USC a little bit better than four

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Speaker 4: to one. Then it's Michael Pennix Junior from Washington eight

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Speaker 4: to one. Then you get Jaden Daniels, the LSU quarterback.

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Speaker 4: He's at eleven to one. Opposite him in this game

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Speaker 4: tonight is Jordan Travis from Florida State. He's at fourteen

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Speaker 4: to one. So you get three and four in the

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Speaker 4: Heisman odds pecking which is pretty cool.

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Speaker 5: And then also this crack, I don't know what.

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Speaker 3: It is, man.

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Speaker 5: We got to change this with.

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Speaker 4: If you bet the rushing props of college quarterbacks, the

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Speaker 4: sack yardage is deducted from their individual rushing total. So

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Speaker 4: if you take either of these guys and they've got wheels,

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01:07:23,640 --> 01:07:28,120
Speaker 4: both Jayden Daniels and Jordan Travis can scoot, especially Daniels,

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Speaker 4: and he takes a couple of sacks. If you're over

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Speaker 4: whatever it is, I'd have to look at what the

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01:07:33,000 --> 01:07:35,960
Speaker 4: total is. Let's just say it's forty six and a half.

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Speaker 4: If he's sitting pretty at fifty five rushing yards, well,

1346
01:07:39,080 --> 01:07:41,400
Speaker 4: a couple of sacks later, you're like, oh my gosh,

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Speaker 4: we're under right now.

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Speaker 5: It's the worst.

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01:07:43,760 --> 01:07:45,440
Speaker 4: It's something you got to keep in mind if you

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01:07:45,520 --> 01:07:48,439
Speaker 4: take any quarterbacks individual rushing total.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, no, it is, it is for sure.

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Speaker 8: You know, we all remember going this is going back

1353
01:07:53,880 --> 01:07:57,920
Speaker 8: to the NFL and this is going to the yardage

1354
01:07:58,120 --> 01:08:00,520
Speaker 8: of Mahomes in the Super two.

1355
01:08:00,480 --> 01:08:03,400
Speaker 3: Super bowls ago. We all know what happened there. Everyone

1356
01:08:03,680 --> 01:08:05,720
Speaker 3: look like Niners. Yeah against the Niners.

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01:08:05,800 --> 01:08:08,040
Speaker 8: Yeah, but that was a different situation that was taking

1358
01:08:08,040 --> 01:08:10,760
Speaker 8: a knee or moving you know, it's a little bit different.

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Speaker 8: But that was very interesting that.

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Speaker 4: You'll imagine if you lost like that. Crack, yeah, guy

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01:08:15,760 --> 01:08:19,400
Speaker 4: is over rushing yardage and a handful of kneel downs

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Speaker 4: at the end and negative, Oh my gosh.

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Speaker 3: That'll I always remember that.

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Speaker 8: You're right, But you know you have to watch when

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Speaker 8: you're you are betting these type of props and listen.

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Speaker 8: I am by nature under guy. As you guys know,

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Speaker 8: seventy five percent. It used to be actually closer than

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Speaker 8: ninety percent under on player props. I will go over

1369
01:08:42,479 --> 01:08:46,200
Speaker 8: now a little bit more, but more like seventy five actually,

1370
01:08:46,200 --> 01:08:49,240
Speaker 8: say eighty percent now unders on player props. So I

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Speaker 8: know we're gonna get into that in a little bit,

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Speaker 8: so let me not jump ahead.

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Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, But but to your point though, when you're

1374
01:08:54,200 --> 01:08:57,960
Speaker 6: looking at specific player propositions, a lot of people just

1375
01:08:58,040 --> 01:09:00,759
Speaker 6: concentrate on the offense and they say, well and Travis,

1376
01:09:00,800 --> 01:09:03,680
Speaker 6: I mean, you know, clearly he's going to eclipse his

1377
01:09:03,800 --> 01:09:06,240
Speaker 6: mark or you know, any of these running backs. But

1378
01:09:06,280 --> 01:09:08,400
Speaker 6: you got to focus on the defensive side too, who

1379
01:09:08,439 --> 01:09:11,880
Speaker 6: are they playing against? Because LSU as a fierce front seven.

1380
01:09:11,920 --> 01:09:16,639
Speaker 6: It's anchored by Harold Perkins, who is just an insane

1381
01:09:16,720 --> 01:09:20,240
Speaker 6: run stopper, and he chases plays and he shuts down

1382
01:09:20,280 --> 01:09:23,000
Speaker 6: the front side gaps when the ball's coming his way.

1383
01:09:23,280 --> 01:09:25,880
Speaker 6: On the opposite side, you have Jared Verse, who was

1384
01:09:26,840 --> 01:09:30,040
Speaker 6: a tackling machine in the offensive backfields last year, coming

1385
01:09:30,040 --> 01:09:33,479
Speaker 6: off the edge for FSU seventeen TFLs and nine.

1386
01:09:33,360 --> 01:09:34,200
Speaker 3: Sacks last year.

1387
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Speaker 6: So that's part of the math that you got to

1388
01:09:37,000 --> 01:09:41,120
Speaker 6: put into this is looking at what defense is opposing

1389
01:09:41,280 --> 01:09:43,960
Speaker 6: and how talented the front seven is. If you're going

1390
01:09:44,040 --> 01:09:47,080
Speaker 6: to choose a running back or a dual threat quarterback

1391
01:09:47,200 --> 01:09:50,679
Speaker 6: in the run game or I mean the secondary, look

1392
01:09:50,760 --> 01:09:54,400
Speaker 6: Jordan Travis, He's got an excellent Arm averaged over two

1393
01:09:54,479 --> 01:09:57,759
Speaker 6: hundred eighty yards per past last season. He's going against

1394
01:09:57,800 --> 01:10:02,800
Speaker 6: a completely revamped l secondaries, so as long as the

1395
01:10:02,960 --> 01:10:05,519
Speaker 6: pass blocking holds up, you assume he might be able

1396
01:10:05,560 --> 01:10:07,759
Speaker 6: to tune them up. These are some of the things

1397
01:10:07,800 --> 01:10:11,240
Speaker 6: that you know, Again, a square better may not be

1398
01:10:11,320 --> 01:10:13,680
Speaker 6: concentrating on. But if you just take a little bit

1399
01:10:13,720 --> 01:10:15,800
Speaker 6: of time and you don't just get caught up in

1400
01:10:15,880 --> 01:10:19,400
Speaker 6: the glimmer in the the of looking out only the

1401
01:10:19,439 --> 01:10:22,840
Speaker 6: offense and you look at the oppositional defense, there's some

1402
01:10:23,040 --> 01:10:24,439
Speaker 6: value in these prop bets.

1403
01:10:25,240 --> 01:10:25,400
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1404
01:10:25,439 --> 01:10:28,519
Speaker 4: And by the way, Jaden Daniels, his rushing prop is

1405
01:10:28,560 --> 01:10:31,120
Speaker 4: forty eight and a half. Is where it's at. By

1406
01:10:31,120 --> 01:10:33,800
Speaker 4: the way, while we're talking prop bets, crack, can I

1407
01:10:33,840 --> 01:10:35,920
Speaker 4: give you a story that hurt my soul last night?

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01:10:36,000 --> 01:10:38,280
Speaker 3: You two? Rich? Okay, here, gosh.

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01:10:38,000 --> 01:10:41,200
Speaker 5: So I've got I can't believe this happened. I really can't.

1410
01:10:41,200 --> 01:10:42,080
Speaker 5: I'm still in shock.

1411
01:10:42,640 --> 01:10:46,800
Speaker 4: I had Drake May, the North Carolina quarterback, going over

1412
01:10:47,160 --> 01:10:52,360
Speaker 4: too sixty nine and a half passing yards. Okay, Oh yeah, crack,

1413
01:10:53,160 --> 01:10:57,840
Speaker 4: he's at two sixty six with four minutes to go

1414
01:10:58,120 --> 01:11:02,519
Speaker 4: in the third quarter. Okay, God, yes, I just need

1415
01:11:02,560 --> 01:11:06,519
Speaker 4: four more yards. He throws an interception. Okay, I still

1416
01:11:06,520 --> 01:11:08,880
Speaker 4: only need four more yards. We got a whole quarter

1417
01:11:08,960 --> 01:11:15,520
Speaker 4: to go. Next possession, interception, possession after that. In completion

1418
01:11:16,280 --> 01:11:19,240
Speaker 4: third and ten, he throws the screen pass that goes

1419
01:11:19,280 --> 01:11:24,040
Speaker 4: for three yards three. I'm looking at my my app

1420
01:11:24,360 --> 01:11:26,760
Speaker 4: here it's got him at two seventy. I'm like, wait

1421
01:11:26,800 --> 01:11:28,719
Speaker 4: a minute, I thought it was three yards. It corrects

1422
01:11:29,080 --> 01:11:30,080
Speaker 4: two sixty nine.

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01:11:30,200 --> 01:11:30,320
Speaker 2: Oh.

1424
01:11:30,640 --> 01:11:32,880
Speaker 4: Then they're leading by enough where they just run the

1425
01:11:32,880 --> 01:11:38,439
Speaker 4: clock out. I finished one away. We needed four yards

1426
01:11:38,479 --> 01:11:40,639
Speaker 4: with four minutes to go in the third quarter.

1427
01:11:40,680 --> 01:11:42,040
Speaker 5: That is unbelievable.

1428
01:11:42,240 --> 01:11:45,400
Speaker 8: I hope that's not a sign for your season. I mean,

1429
01:11:45,720 --> 01:11:48,000
Speaker 8: was there anything going on in the street, like black

1430
01:11:48,040 --> 01:11:50,360
Speaker 8: cats in front of you? Or you better go down

1431
01:11:50,439 --> 01:11:52,080
Speaker 8: to the store and get your chain of garlic.

1432
01:11:52,120 --> 01:11:55,719
Speaker 4: Oh my god, I walked under a couple of ladders.

1433
01:11:55,800 --> 01:11:57,519
Speaker 4: Oh no, I don't know if that had something to

1434
01:11:57,560 --> 01:11:58,040
Speaker 4: do you know what.

1435
01:11:58,080 --> 01:12:00,960
Speaker 8: This isn't an amazing subject, though, guys, listen and I

1436
01:12:01,000 --> 01:12:04,160
Speaker 8: come from an old fashioned family back East, and I

1437
01:12:04,240 --> 01:12:06,960
Speaker 8: have to tell you maybe because they're New Yorkers. My

1438
01:12:07,040 --> 01:12:10,519
Speaker 8: mother is the Italian side. I still have even though

1439
01:12:10,720 --> 01:12:13,160
Speaker 8: I'm a mathematical guy. I'm an algorithm guy. I'm a

1440
01:12:13,200 --> 01:12:17,160
Speaker 8: model guy. I'll still have my superstitions. When I was

1441
01:12:17,200 --> 01:12:19,880
Speaker 8: setting up here, you know, I was running crazy, ran here,

1442
01:12:20,160 --> 01:12:20,519
Speaker 8: so my.

1443
01:12:20,640 --> 01:12:23,160
Speaker 3: Hat was off. So I had the hat.

1444
01:12:23,360 --> 01:12:26,519
Speaker 8: I put it on a table by accident and dove

1445
01:12:26,600 --> 01:12:29,960
Speaker 8: and you can picture me diving dove on the table

1446
01:12:30,400 --> 01:12:32,360
Speaker 8: to move the hat. This is I touch a bible

1447
01:12:32,400 --> 01:12:34,880
Speaker 8: on this, my dove to move because I said to myself,

1448
01:12:34,880 --> 01:12:36,439
Speaker 8: oh my god, you can't put a hat on the table.

1449
01:12:36,439 --> 01:12:40,080
Speaker 3: Oh my, my grandma the same way, right Rose Riggerio.

1450
01:12:41,080 --> 01:12:44,320
Speaker 6: Oh if Grandma Rose, if you put a hat on

1451
01:12:44,360 --> 01:12:46,760
Speaker 6: a table while she was cooking Sunday sauce, she.

1452
01:12:46,920 --> 01:12:50,160
Speaker 3: Rock you with the spoon. How can it be?

1453
01:12:50,320 --> 01:12:53,000
Speaker 8: Like I still think like like a new shoes on

1454
01:12:53,040 --> 01:12:55,519
Speaker 8: a bed, new shoes on the table, hat like I

1455
01:12:55,680 --> 01:12:59,160
Speaker 8: still go to it. I can't never change that stuff

1456
01:12:59,240 --> 01:13:02,000
Speaker 8: still is in ToIP. Like you said, it's your grandmother.

1457
01:13:02,040 --> 01:13:03,800
Speaker 8: It's the old school way. I guess some of these

1458
01:13:03,880 --> 01:13:05,519
Speaker 8: kids might never even know what I'm talking about now,

1459
01:13:05,520 --> 01:13:07,040
Speaker 8: But ask your moms or grandmom's.

1460
01:13:07,080 --> 01:13:08,639
Speaker 3: They're gonna tell you. Crack.

1461
01:13:09,360 --> 01:13:13,400
Speaker 4: I swear to you. I look over, there's a table

1462
01:13:13,680 --> 01:13:14,640
Speaker 4: with a hat on it.

1463
01:13:15,520 --> 01:13:17,280
Speaker 3: That's all what that's what it was.

1464
01:13:17,479 --> 01:13:18,000
Speaker 5: What it was?

1465
01:13:18,400 --> 01:13:22,360
Speaker 8: Ask God, see if your girlfriend or your wife don't know,

1466
01:13:22,439 --> 01:13:24,960
Speaker 8: they don't know. Like my wife knows. She knows what's up.

1467
01:13:25,000 --> 01:13:28,120
Speaker 8: She knows everything. Now, thirty seven years with me, I said,

1468
01:13:28,160 --> 01:13:30,200
Speaker 8: we're together since like ninth grade.

1469
01:13:30,320 --> 01:13:32,800
Speaker 3: She knows what to do and what not to do.

1470
01:13:32,840 --> 01:13:35,120
Speaker 8: And even though she grew up in an old fashioned

1471
01:13:35,680 --> 01:13:40,000
Speaker 8: German Irish family, it doesn't matter. She knows my mother's

1472
01:13:40,000 --> 01:13:41,920
Speaker 8: side of the Italian side, and then I have a

1473
01:13:41,920 --> 01:13:45,080
Speaker 8: little bit of a Jewish side, but also very superstitious.

1474
01:13:45,160 --> 01:13:46,559
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, so there we go.

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Speaker 4: Lions rushing prop bets. David Montgomery, he's RB one. We

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01:15:52,640 --> 01:15:55,000
Speaker 4: always hear a QB one. He's RB one with the

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01:15:55,080 --> 01:15:58,720
Speaker 4: Lions forty seven and a half, the former Bears running back.

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01:15:59,160 --> 01:16:03,400
Speaker 4: Also Jamier Gibbs, the twelfth overall pick, the rookie thirty

1515
01:16:03,439 --> 01:16:05,479
Speaker 4: seven and a half. The reason I bring those up.

1516
01:16:06,080 --> 01:16:09,600
Speaker 4: The wild card is Chris Jones, the all everything defensive

1517
01:16:09,640 --> 01:16:13,160
Speaker 4: lineman with the Chiefs. He still hasn't signed his extension,

1518
01:16:13,840 --> 01:16:17,520
Speaker 4: so if he isn't playing in this game, which is possible,

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01:16:18,479 --> 01:16:22,200
Speaker 4: you could see the Lions just racking up the running yards.

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01:16:22,600 --> 01:16:25,040
Speaker 4: So something to keep in mind as we get closer

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01:16:25,080 --> 01:16:27,679
Speaker 4: to Week one here, But anything in your mind, crack,

1522
01:16:27,760 --> 01:16:31,719
Speaker 4: whether it's tonight, LSU Florida State Week one, Lions Chiefs

1523
01:16:31,760 --> 01:16:32,400
Speaker 4: stand out.

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01:16:32,200 --> 01:16:34,280
Speaker 3: To you, well, the Lions Chiefs game.

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01:16:34,320 --> 01:16:37,080
Speaker 8: You know, I love my life is based on my

1526
01:16:37,120 --> 01:16:40,879
Speaker 8: sports betting life. I'm gonna say is based on many things,

1527
01:16:41,280 --> 01:16:45,080
Speaker 8: but the most important prioritized things in my life. One

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01:16:45,120 --> 01:16:48,200
Speaker 8: of them is definitely player props. And like I said earlier,

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01:16:48,200 --> 01:16:50,200
Speaker 8: I like to bet a lot of these under I'll

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01:16:50,240 --> 01:16:53,160
Speaker 8: tell you right now, this is totals fifty four. It's

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01:16:53,200 --> 01:16:57,240
Speaker 8: the highest total of Week one, and you know, it's

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01:16:57,280 --> 01:17:00,960
Speaker 8: really kind of an extremely high for Week one, first

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01:17:00,960 --> 01:17:03,799
Speaker 8: game of the season. It might be a good spot

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01:17:04,000 --> 01:17:06,920
Speaker 8: for some unders here based on that total, which opened

1535
01:17:06,960 --> 01:17:09,479
Speaker 8: up fifty four, by the way, and still is fifty four.

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01:17:09,760 --> 01:17:12,799
Speaker 8: No movement at all on that line in like four months,

1537
01:17:12,840 --> 01:17:15,680
Speaker 8: so we know we got two big top offenses from

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01:17:15,760 --> 01:17:19,479
Speaker 8: last year. The Lions defense gave up a ton of points.

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01:17:19,520 --> 01:17:20,680
Speaker 3: But this is the.

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01:17:20,640 --> 01:17:24,000
Speaker 8: First game of the season, so may you take a

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01:17:24,040 --> 01:17:26,439
Speaker 8: game or two to get all the jitters and the

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01:17:26,560 --> 01:17:29,639
Speaker 8: kinks out here. I'm gonna be looking for some unders

1543
01:17:29,880 --> 01:17:31,720
Speaker 8: by the time the game rolls around. And I hate

1544
01:17:31,720 --> 01:17:34,479
Speaker 8: to say this. I know people love Mahomes. I love

1545
01:17:34,560 --> 01:17:38,000
Speaker 8: that quarterback documentary that was on. I loved watching them,

1546
01:17:38,240 --> 01:17:40,599
Speaker 8: fantastic one of the best athletes that I've ever seen

1547
01:17:40,800 --> 01:17:44,560
Speaker 8: at quarterback position. But I know there's gonna be inflated

1548
01:17:44,680 --> 01:17:47,400
Speaker 8: lines on him too, So I'm probably gonna be looking

1549
01:17:47,400 --> 01:17:50,519
Speaker 8: to some under on the Holmes prop props by the

1550
01:17:50,520 --> 01:17:53,400
Speaker 8: time the game kicks off, and I'm gonna bet them

1551
01:17:53,439 --> 01:17:58,240
Speaker 8: closer to kickoff after everyone bets those unders in small

1552
01:17:58,320 --> 01:18:01,280
Speaker 8: volume to give you a you know, a good advantage

1553
01:18:02,120 --> 01:18:04,640
Speaker 8: to get the under at the peak of the line.

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01:18:06,360 --> 01:18:14,080
Speaker 6: Let's look at Jordan Travis FSU quarterback Heisman hopeful. He averaged,

1555
01:18:14,120 --> 01:18:16,920
Speaker 6: as I mentioned last segment, over two hundred and eighty

1556
01:18:17,000 --> 01:18:21,400
Speaker 6: passing yards per game and led in a ton of

1557
01:18:21,439 --> 01:18:25,439
Speaker 6: other quarterback stats. He racked up a tremendous amount of

1558
01:18:26,400 --> 01:18:31,000
Speaker 6: activity offensively, and so I look again, narrative driven, for

1559
01:18:31,040 --> 01:18:33,160
Speaker 6: these first two book picks, I'm going to take the

1560
01:18:33,240 --> 01:18:36,640
Speaker 6: over on passing yards. He's got two forty eight and

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01:18:36,680 --> 01:18:40,720
Speaker 6: a half at some books. I like Jordan Travis to

1562
01:18:40,760 --> 01:18:45,439
Speaker 6: go over there. Jamiir Gibbs that thirty seven and a half.

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01:18:45,439 --> 01:18:49,320
Speaker 6: You mentioned the rushing yards think I think either way

1564
01:18:49,840 --> 01:18:54,400
Speaker 6: you slice, it doesn't matter who's playing defensively. Again, narrative driven,

1565
01:18:54,840 --> 01:18:56,439
Speaker 6: what do the Lions have to do? They have to

1566
01:18:56,560 --> 01:18:59,559
Speaker 6: prove their right by spending a first round pick on

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01:18:59,600 --> 01:19:03,160
Speaker 6: a run when they needed so much help defensively. So

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01:19:03,200 --> 01:19:05,439
Speaker 6: I'm gonna go over the thirty seven and a half

1569
01:19:05,720 --> 01:19:09,599
Speaker 6: and then Riley Leonard Duke versus Clemson. I think he's

1570
01:19:09,640 --> 01:19:12,080
Speaker 6: gonna be trying to keep pace with klub Nick on

1571
01:19:12,120 --> 01:19:15,639
Speaker 6: the opposite sideline all night long. So his line right

1572
01:19:15,680 --> 01:19:19,200
Speaker 6: now is set at one and a half touchdown passes.

1573
01:19:19,320 --> 01:19:21,519
Speaker 6: I think he throws at least two. So I got

1574
01:19:21,600 --> 01:19:25,200
Speaker 6: Riley Leonard in the over. So again, going right in

1575
01:19:25,200 --> 01:19:28,280
Speaker 6: the face of logic, Crack just said he hates overs,

1576
01:19:28,320 --> 01:19:29,160
Speaker 6: he loves unders.

1577
01:19:29,200 --> 01:19:33,479
Speaker 3: On props, I'm taking three overs. Okay, have fun, enjoy it.

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01:19:36,479 --> 01:19:37,920
Speaker 5: I like what you're thinking, though, Crack.

1579
01:19:38,000 --> 01:19:41,200
Speaker 4: Think about this where if Chris Jones doesn't play for

1580
01:19:41,240 --> 01:19:43,760
Speaker 4: the Chiefs and the Lions are able to run the

1581
01:19:43,760 --> 01:19:47,840
Speaker 4: ball effectively, that means tic tic tick tick time's coming

1582
01:19:47,880 --> 01:19:51,320
Speaker 4: off the clock and mahomes under am I give you an.

1583
01:19:51,240 --> 01:19:52,840
Speaker 5: Advantage right there for sure?

1584
01:19:53,160 --> 01:19:53,439
Speaker 3: All right?

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01:19:53,479 --> 01:19:57,080
Speaker 4: Coming up next, Well, big changes lead to a big turnaround.

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Speaker 1: Are you ready to witness quot NFL fans Welcome to

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01:20:02,600 --> 01:20:07,000
Speaker 1: the largest tailgate party in the nation, where let's go

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01:20:07,200 --> 01:20:12,679
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01:20:22,120 --> 01:20:24,000
Speaker 2: We're here to break it all down.

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Speaker 3: Let's go, Let's go.

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Speaker 1: This is Fox Sports Radios Countdown to Kickoff, presented by

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Speaker 1: Bett mg app. Now we're live from your tailgame. Here's

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01:20:35,600 --> 01:20:40,600
Speaker 1: Brian No, six year NFL veteran Rich Boornberger, and professional

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Speaker 1: sports better Bill crack crack Omburger.

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Speaker 5: Oh what is going on everybody?

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01:20:45,360 --> 01:20:49,240
Speaker 4: I hope you're enjoying your Sunday afternoon on the East coast.

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01:20:49,600 --> 01:20:52,559
Speaker 4: Huh we're at noon on the East Coast, getting closer

1601
01:20:52,560 --> 01:20:56,760
Speaker 4: to kickoff? Uh and cracks neck of the wood, we're

1602
01:20:56,800 --> 01:20:58,280
Speaker 4: at what nine am?

1603
01:20:58,400 --> 01:21:00,000
Speaker 5: Let'st where you're at nine am?

1604
01:21:00,040 --> 01:21:02,919
Speaker 4: That's nice, but still only an hour away from kickoff.

1605
01:21:02,960 --> 01:21:04,840
Speaker 4: This is a bad warm up band. I gotta be

1606
01:21:04,840 --> 01:21:07,240
Speaker 4: honest with you guys. Right, you ever go to a

1607
01:21:07,240 --> 01:21:09,439
Speaker 4: concert and there's a warm up band where you're like,

1608
01:21:09,560 --> 01:21:12,360
Speaker 4: oh my gosh, how are they even on stage?

1609
01:21:12,439 --> 01:21:12,760
Speaker 5: Right now?

1610
01:21:12,800 --> 01:21:16,599
Speaker 4: That would be Northwestern against Rutgers. I feel like you're

1611
01:21:16,680 --> 01:21:19,439
Speaker 4: total in that game is thirty eight and a half, right,

1612
01:21:19,479 --> 01:21:20,640
Speaker 4: that's a.

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01:21:21,439 --> 01:21:23,120
Speaker 8: It just took a lot of money, though, guys, I

1614
01:21:23,120 --> 01:21:25,760
Speaker 8: think that that game's starting now, right, starting now in

1615
01:21:25,840 --> 01:21:29,040
Speaker 8: an hour? Okay, my screen says nine any.

1616
01:21:28,920 --> 01:21:30,240
Speaker 5: No, no, no, it is right. You're right.

1617
01:21:30,560 --> 01:21:31,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're right.

1618
01:21:31,160 --> 01:21:31,679
Speaker 5: It is starting.

1619
01:21:31,960 --> 01:21:34,599
Speaker 8: So they're about to start and they haven't started yet.

1620
01:21:34,640 --> 01:21:37,719
Speaker 8: But that game just really went off the board here,

1621
01:21:37,760 --> 01:21:40,920
Speaker 8: like big red numbers. I use a live odd screen

1622
01:21:40,920 --> 01:21:42,640
Speaker 8: that it's a live odd screen. You have to pay

1623
01:21:42,640 --> 01:21:44,040
Speaker 8: five hundred dollars a month for it, but it shows

1624
01:21:44,040 --> 01:21:47,960
Speaker 8: you the lines everywhere as they're happening. And that line

1625
01:21:48,120 --> 01:21:50,120
Speaker 8: just really got hit, went down the four and a

1626
01:21:50,160 --> 01:21:53,000
Speaker 8: half from six and a lot of books five four

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01:21:53,040 --> 01:21:55,120
Speaker 8: and a half five, So a lot of money coming

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01:21:55,120 --> 01:21:57,360
Speaker 8: in on that bad band, just to let you know.

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01:21:58,560 --> 01:21:59,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, by the.

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01:21:59,200 --> 01:22:03,200
Speaker 4: Way, asked, when you have that odd screen and it

1631
01:22:03,280 --> 01:22:05,960
Speaker 4: is a part of you, it's an extension of you, crack.

1632
01:22:06,600 --> 01:22:09,840
Speaker 4: What are you looking at in terms of value that

1633
01:22:09,920 --> 01:22:11,200
Speaker 4: you can take advantage of?

1634
01:22:11,760 --> 01:22:12,719
Speaker 3: Well, let's see.

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01:22:12,760 --> 01:22:14,840
Speaker 8: I hope, no, raw, I hope a lot of guys

1636
01:22:14,880 --> 01:22:16,760
Speaker 8: that are listening to this show can use this.

1637
01:22:17,080 --> 01:22:19,040
Speaker 3: But I hope the right guy the wrong guys know.

1638
01:22:19,080 --> 01:22:20,600
Speaker 8: I hope the guys aren't listening to this that that

1639
01:22:20,600 --> 01:22:22,759
Speaker 8: can hurt me because I'm gonna tell the God's honest

1640
01:22:22,760 --> 01:22:26,000
Speaker 8: truth about this. What I mean, there's indicators in the

1641
01:22:26,040 --> 01:22:32,040
Speaker 8: market where I know if certain sportsbooks get hit first,

1642
01:22:32,600 --> 01:22:36,240
Speaker 8: I have thirty seconds to think if me and my

1643
01:22:36,320 --> 01:22:39,200
Speaker 8: guys agreed with that hit and just with that play

1644
01:22:39,600 --> 01:22:42,479
Speaker 8: and just didn't play it yet. For example, this line

1645
01:22:42,520 --> 01:22:46,160
Speaker 8: was a solid six everywhere. It went to five, then

1646
01:22:46,280 --> 01:22:48,680
Speaker 8: four and a half at this particular shop, which I'm

1647
01:22:48,680 --> 01:22:49,519
Speaker 8: not gonna mention.

1648
01:22:50,000 --> 01:22:52,400
Speaker 3: And when it went there, I knew I had.

1649
01:22:52,720 --> 01:22:55,320
Speaker 8: In this case, it was about twenty seconds before the

1650
01:22:55,520 --> 01:22:59,920
Speaker 8: entire screen lit up red and the line moved everywhere.

1651
01:23:00,120 --> 01:23:03,160
Speaker 8: Sometimes it's less, sometimes it's ten seconds. But you have

1652
01:23:03,200 --> 01:23:05,120
Speaker 8: to have a live ODD screen in order to get that.

1653
01:23:05,160 --> 01:23:08,880
Speaker 8: You can't use a two minute delayed ODD screen. You

1654
01:23:09,000 --> 01:23:11,280
Speaker 8: have to have a live screen. That's the number one

1655
01:23:11,320 --> 01:23:15,360
Speaker 8: reason for me to have this live screen, because I

1656
01:23:15,479 --> 01:23:20,240
Speaker 8: know where the line's going to go before it moves.

1657
01:23:20,439 --> 01:23:21,240
Speaker 3: And let me just be.

1658
01:23:21,280 --> 01:23:24,160
Speaker 8: Blunt, some of those sportsbooks don't like me for that.

1659
01:23:24,200 --> 01:23:27,040
Speaker 8: I've been thrown out of many sportsbooks. Now I say

1660
01:23:27,080 --> 01:23:30,519
Speaker 8: thrown out, thrown out or absolutely stopped from betting, or

1661
01:23:30,600 --> 01:23:34,719
Speaker 8: limited to ten grocery dollars. So which you know, that's

1662
01:23:34,760 --> 01:23:36,640
Speaker 8: a terrible thing, but it has happened that three or

1663
01:23:36,680 --> 01:23:39,959
Speaker 8: four books in town here, instead of using my information,

1664
01:23:40,360 --> 01:23:43,280
Speaker 8: they choose to throw me out or limit me. And

1665
01:23:43,320 --> 01:23:46,120
Speaker 8: then you know, then you have to use other ways

1666
01:23:46,160 --> 01:23:48,280
Speaker 8: to get in and make bets at sports book. It's terrible,

1667
01:23:48,479 --> 01:23:51,599
Speaker 8: but that is the reason sportsbooks do not like to

1668
01:23:51,640 --> 01:23:52,120
Speaker 8: get hit.

1669
01:23:52,439 --> 01:23:54,840
Speaker 3: They like to move on air. They like to move.

1670
01:23:54,880 --> 01:23:56,920
Speaker 8: What that means is they like to move without taking

1671
01:23:56,960 --> 01:23:59,519
Speaker 8: a bet, just following a live odd screen like I have.

1672
01:24:00,040 --> 01:24:03,080
Speaker 8: But I'll try to get them. But I'm only saying

1673
01:24:03,120 --> 01:24:05,720
Speaker 8: that on certain Steam games. Listen, we have our own

1674
01:24:05,760 --> 01:24:07,840
Speaker 8: games that that that we you know, we deal with

1675
01:24:08,000 --> 01:24:11,240
Speaker 8: and we bet and and we move. I mean, you know,

1676
01:24:11,640 --> 01:24:14,360
Speaker 8: I know Rich is not on that group text, which

1677
01:24:14,479 --> 01:24:18,559
Speaker 8: we probably should add him. But the group text you've seen, Brian.

1678
01:24:18,840 --> 01:24:20,600
Speaker 8: When I give out a game, I've given out at

1679
01:24:20,680 --> 01:24:24,280
Speaker 8: least ten games since preseason started, and I say, guys,

1680
01:24:24,600 --> 01:24:26,760
Speaker 8: you have this game, you have three minutes to bet it.

1681
01:24:27,200 --> 01:24:31,720
Speaker 8: And it was this preseason. They really overmoved when I said, like,

1682
01:24:32,080 --> 01:24:34,080
Speaker 8: you know, take a point and a half on a game.

1683
01:24:34,720 --> 01:24:36,559
Speaker 8: It literally I was taking a point and a half,

1684
01:24:36,600 --> 01:24:38,960
Speaker 8: like I'm Buffalo, and Buffalo moved to minus two and

1685
01:24:38,960 --> 01:24:41,240
Speaker 8: a half. I mean some of the games moved three

1686
01:24:41,280 --> 01:24:44,400
Speaker 8: four points and we're just crazy. But that's that's not

1687
01:24:44,680 --> 01:24:48,400
Speaker 8: due to to that. That's due to not not me

1688
01:24:48,479 --> 01:24:51,120
Speaker 8: following any screen. That's our guys, my group of guys

1689
01:24:51,240 --> 01:24:53,000
Speaker 8: that are going to bet that game. But as soon

1690
01:24:53,040 --> 01:24:54,840
Speaker 8: as we bet it, they overmoved the line. But I

1691
01:24:54,960 --> 01:24:56,880
Speaker 8: tried to. I always gave it to you guys first

1692
01:24:56,880 --> 01:25:00,000
Speaker 8: to make sure. But what did I say, guys, no Vegas,

1693
01:25:00,040 --> 01:25:02,640
Speaker 8: please save the big sports books for me.

1694
01:25:03,120 --> 01:25:04,960
Speaker 3: So but I did give him back to the guys.

1695
01:25:05,040 --> 01:25:08,280
Speaker 8: I know, I know Jeff was always excited to get

1696
01:25:08,280 --> 01:25:11,599
Speaker 8: those games. He would bet every single game because I said, Jeff, listen,

1697
01:25:11,760 --> 01:25:14,040
Speaker 8: if you don't like the game, just take the three

1698
01:25:14,080 --> 01:25:16,320
Speaker 8: and a half points and the line's gonna go down

1699
01:25:16,360 --> 01:25:18,439
Speaker 8: to one and then lay the other side, you know,

1700
01:25:18,520 --> 01:25:21,760
Speaker 8: minus one. So it was a really good ride. It

1701
01:25:21,840 --> 01:25:25,439
Speaker 8: was a great preseason. Hopefully it turns right into Week

1702
01:25:25,479 --> 01:25:28,240
Speaker 8: one NFL. And by the way, so far NFL is

1703
01:25:28,600 --> 01:25:31,040
Speaker 8: I mean, I'm sorry. So far the college football has

1704
01:25:31,120 --> 01:25:34,559
Speaker 8: been very good, like you said, but you know, now

1705
01:25:34,600 --> 01:25:37,320
Speaker 8: this this is a tough week Week one as far

1706
01:25:37,360 --> 01:25:41,280
Speaker 8: as sides and totals for the NFL. So we're gonna

1707
01:25:41,280 --> 01:25:43,880
Speaker 8: talk about it next week more in detail. But again

1708
01:25:44,200 --> 01:25:46,320
Speaker 8: because like I said at the beginning when I first

1709
01:25:46,320 --> 01:25:51,320
Speaker 8: came on the show, the efficiency in the marketplace is

1710
01:25:51,760 --> 01:25:54,760
Speaker 8: somewhat very difficult to get over to. You know, I'll

1711
01:25:54,800 --> 01:25:57,080
Speaker 8: tell you. Let me just be blunt about something. This

1712
01:25:57,160 --> 01:26:00,000
Speaker 8: is gonna shock a lot of people listening to this show.

1713
01:26:01,280 --> 01:26:05,639
Speaker 8: I put up a challenge to anyone who can beat

1714
01:26:06,360 --> 01:26:10,799
Speaker 8: NFL day of the game betting NFL sides.

1715
01:26:11,000 --> 01:26:14,480
Speaker 3: So you want to bet three sides, four sides, five sides.

1716
01:26:14,240 --> 01:26:16,760
Speaker 8: A game the day of the game. And you guys

1717
01:26:16,760 --> 01:26:18,840
Speaker 8: have all been to sportsbooks, you know what happens. The

1718
01:26:19,000 --> 01:26:22,360
Speaker 8: line are The lines are ridiculous. They're out the doors

1719
01:26:22,600 --> 01:26:25,559
Speaker 8: on NFL Sundays because and the last minute too, because

1720
01:26:25,600 --> 01:26:28,400
Speaker 8: everyone wants to bet last minute, and every single sports

1721
01:26:28,400 --> 01:26:30,680
Speaker 8: book in this town and around the country people get

1722
01:26:30,720 --> 01:26:32,600
Speaker 8: shut out because they wait till the last minute. But

1723
01:26:32,640 --> 01:26:36,080
Speaker 8: I'll tell you why I challenge someone to beat NFL

1724
01:26:36,240 --> 01:26:37,559
Speaker 8: betting the day of the game.

1725
01:26:41,520 --> 01:26:42,640
Speaker 3: Long term.

1726
01:26:43,000 --> 01:26:46,559
Speaker 4: It's funny, too rich because when he on the group text,

1727
01:26:47,040 --> 01:26:47,919
Speaker 4: you'll just put.

1728
01:26:47,840 --> 01:26:50,320
Speaker 3: Now in a capital letters.

1729
01:26:50,400 --> 01:26:53,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, now, now bet this right now. That is

1730
01:26:53,840 --> 01:26:56,760
Speaker 4: confidence right there. You know it's like, guys, I'm kind

1731
01:26:56,760 --> 01:27:01,759
Speaker 4: of leaning no LSU. It's LSU minus one and a half.

1732
01:27:01,840 --> 01:27:05,559
Speaker 8: Now, well, that just means because the line's gonna move

1733
01:27:05,600 --> 01:27:07,960
Speaker 8: in three minutes, you guys sure? You guys literally have

1734
01:27:08,000 --> 01:27:09,320
Speaker 8: one hundred and eighty seconds to bet.

1735
01:27:09,520 --> 01:27:13,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, this feels it honestly feels like Mission impossible where

1736
01:27:13,160 --> 01:27:16,320
Speaker 6: you finish reading the message and it self destructs. So

1737
01:27:16,360 --> 01:27:18,680
Speaker 6: two things for your crack. One, get me on that

1738
01:27:18,720 --> 01:27:21,599
Speaker 6: group text. You have my number. I'm very interested too.

1739
01:27:22,360 --> 01:27:24,760
Speaker 6: You know we were talking earlier. You're a math guy,

1740
01:27:24,880 --> 01:27:29,600
Speaker 6: you got your live odd screen, you understand what markers

1741
01:27:29,640 --> 01:27:34,439
Speaker 6: in the market move lines, and as a professional better

1742
01:27:35,080 --> 01:27:38,160
Speaker 6: you obviously have the most skin in the game of

1743
01:27:38,240 --> 01:27:41,160
Speaker 6: anybody speaking right now on the radio. I can guarantee

1744
01:27:41,160 --> 01:27:45,880
Speaker 6: that across the country. So when you bet, are there

1745
01:27:45,920 --> 01:27:48,720
Speaker 6: any superstitions that keep you off of a game, like

1746
01:27:49,040 --> 01:27:52,160
Speaker 6: you don't like a game with a home dog, or

1747
01:27:52,520 --> 01:27:54,439
Speaker 6: you know what I mean, or you've been burned too

1748
01:27:54,439 --> 01:27:55,599
Speaker 6: many times betting?

1749
01:27:56,120 --> 01:27:58,560
Speaker 3: I don't know unders on Monday.

1750
01:27:58,280 --> 01:28:01,040
Speaker 6: Night football, Like, is there a do you have stay

1751
01:28:01,080 --> 01:28:04,000
Speaker 6: away games? Because you just get handshy from being burned

1752
01:28:04,000 --> 01:28:04,639
Speaker 6: too many.

1753
01:28:04,439 --> 01:28:06,679
Speaker 3: Times zero zero.

1754
01:28:06,720 --> 01:28:09,519
Speaker 8: Great question, though, Rich, and we'll get you on that

1755
01:28:09,560 --> 01:28:15,240
Speaker 8: group chat. But absolutely good question. There's nothing to that now.

1756
01:28:15,320 --> 01:28:18,040
Speaker 8: I if we like a game, I'm betting it. I

1757
01:28:18,080 --> 01:28:20,479
Speaker 8: don't care if it's you know, years ago there was

1758
01:28:20,520 --> 01:28:23,080
Speaker 8: a pure system and I don't like systems, and I

1759
01:28:23,120 --> 01:28:25,280
Speaker 8: hate trend not a trend guy. When you say, oh,

1760
01:28:25,280 --> 01:28:27,800
Speaker 8: this team has won you know, fourteen of the last

1761
01:28:27,840 --> 01:28:31,080
Speaker 8: twenty games, it's total different squads. So I don't want

1762
01:28:31,080 --> 01:28:33,719
Speaker 8: to hear nothing about trends unless it's the same year.

1763
01:28:34,040 --> 01:28:36,160
Speaker 8: I'm not dealing with trends. I think it's really a

1764
01:28:36,200 --> 01:28:39,640
Speaker 8: way of people in this space to talk and just

1765
01:28:39,720 --> 01:28:42,080
Speaker 8: act like they know more than they do. But actually

1766
01:28:42,160 --> 01:28:45,240
Speaker 8: it doesn't work. Trends do not work unless it's the

1767
01:28:45,280 --> 01:28:47,479
Speaker 8: same year. And I really do appreciate you saying more

1768
01:28:47,520 --> 01:28:51,160
Speaker 8: skin in the game, because yes, I absolutely bet lots

1769
01:28:51,160 --> 01:28:55,679
Speaker 8: of money on these games and my plays in general.

1770
01:28:55,840 --> 01:28:58,360
Speaker 8: And let me before I go on to finishing your question,

1771
01:28:58,439 --> 01:29:00,439
Speaker 8: let me go back to reiterate because at a long

1772
01:29:00,479 --> 01:29:03,000
Speaker 8: silence after I had a challenge about the last anyone

1773
01:29:03,040 --> 01:29:05,599
Speaker 8: beating NFL day of the game. That's not to say

1774
01:29:05,600 --> 01:29:07,519
Speaker 8: I don't bet the day of the game. I'll bet

1775
01:29:07,640 --> 01:29:10,280
Speaker 8: NFL total, especially first half total. I'm a first half

1776
01:29:10,280 --> 01:29:12,880
Speaker 8: total guy. I'll bet first half totals day of the game.

1777
01:29:13,160 --> 01:29:18,000
Speaker 8: And of course the NFL props, you really have great

1778
01:29:18,120 --> 01:29:20,840
Speaker 8: opportunities to bet them the day of the game, So

1779
01:29:21,080 --> 01:29:23,000
Speaker 8: there's many markets I bet the day of the game.

1780
01:29:23,000 --> 01:29:25,599
Speaker 8: I was referring to NFL sides day of the game.

1781
01:29:25,600 --> 01:29:27,600
Speaker 8: That's how hard it is to beat them. They're so

1782
01:29:27,680 --> 01:29:30,160
Speaker 8: efficient from them coming up the week before and having

1783
01:29:30,160 --> 01:29:33,280
Speaker 8: a whole week of the wise guys and the sharps

1784
01:29:33,320 --> 01:29:37,240
Speaker 8: to iron those lines out. But as far as you say, though, no,

1785
01:29:37,280 --> 01:29:41,120
Speaker 8: there's nothing holding me back from betting. You know what,

1786
01:29:40,840 --> 01:29:43,960
Speaker 8: I what I bet because of a certain situation. I

1787
01:29:44,040 --> 01:29:46,680
Speaker 8: was gonna be going to refer the years back. It

1788
01:29:46,720 --> 01:29:50,759
Speaker 8: was just almost just money to bet a home team

1789
01:29:50,960 --> 01:29:54,559
Speaker 8: dog Monday night, Monday Night football. This is before there

1790
01:29:54,640 --> 01:29:57,280
Speaker 8: was that's right before there was Sunday night football. There

1791
01:29:57,320 --> 01:29:59,920
Speaker 8: was only Monday Night football. And you know, turn on

1792
01:30:00,200 --> 01:30:02,080
Speaker 8: the lights, the parties. Over all those guys, they were

1793
01:30:02,120 --> 01:30:05,800
Speaker 8: the best Monday Night taking a team home dog plus

1794
01:30:05,840 --> 01:30:07,040
Speaker 8: three and a half, four and a half, five and

1795
01:30:07,080 --> 01:30:09,400
Speaker 8: a half, seven and a half. That was money for

1796
01:30:09,560 --> 01:30:12,679
Speaker 8: years just based on that, based on the public betting

1797
01:30:12,720 --> 01:30:16,320
Speaker 8: those those big road names when it was Marquee team's playing.

1798
01:30:16,439 --> 01:30:19,439
Speaker 8: That doesn't work anymore. Hey, the market again, you're overusing

1799
01:30:19,439 --> 01:30:21,320
Speaker 8: this word today, but the market's too efficient for that

1800
01:30:21,360 --> 01:30:21,759
Speaker 8: to happen.

1801
01:30:21,840 --> 01:30:24,880
Speaker 4: So well, that's the thing though, too crack is you

1802
01:30:24,920 --> 01:30:29,000
Speaker 4: look at how much things change if you're really relying

1803
01:30:29,080 --> 01:30:32,080
Speaker 4: too heavily on trends, Like you said, this team's won

1804
01:30:32,240 --> 01:30:35,920
Speaker 4: eight of nine and blah blast sins twenty ten or

1805
01:30:35,960 --> 01:30:38,719
Speaker 4: whatever the case may be. Where think about the game

1806
01:30:38,760 --> 01:30:42,560
Speaker 4: tonight Clemson against Duke. Clemson has a new offensive coordinator

1807
01:30:42,800 --> 01:30:45,960
Speaker 4: and Garrett Riley. That's going to make a difference. You

1808
01:30:46,040 --> 01:30:48,720
Speaker 4: have a different quarterback in Kad Klubnik who started the

1809
01:30:48,760 --> 01:30:51,680
Speaker 4: second half of the season because dj uey ungla Lay

1810
01:30:52,360 --> 01:30:55,479
Speaker 4: was really bad. That's a big change as well. If

1811
01:30:55,520 --> 01:30:58,120
Speaker 4: you go to the NFL, look at the Eagles, they

1812
01:30:58,160 --> 01:31:02,040
Speaker 4: have two new coordinators. That's going to make an impact.

1813
01:31:02,200 --> 01:31:05,680
Speaker 4: You could look all around the place where trends are

1814
01:31:05,720 --> 01:31:10,400
Speaker 4: so outdated, especially in college football Colorado yesterday.

1815
01:31:09,960 --> 01:31:12,080
Speaker 5: They've got eighty seven new guys.

1816
01:31:12,479 --> 01:31:15,720
Speaker 4: They've got to I don't care what it was, right

1817
01:31:16,240 --> 01:31:18,640
Speaker 4: this was the stat of the day crack where you

1818
01:31:18,720 --> 01:31:21,680
Speaker 4: got to go back to two thousand and two, the

1819
01:31:21,760 --> 01:31:25,759
Speaker 4: last time Colorado beat a top twenty team on the road,

1820
01:31:26,280 --> 01:31:29,679
Speaker 4: they were like, oh in twenty seven in the same

1821
01:31:29,760 --> 01:31:33,679
Speaker 4: situation until yesterday. So it's like all those trends would

1822
01:31:33,720 --> 01:31:37,040
Speaker 4: lead you to believe that Dion Sanders and the Buffs

1823
01:31:37,080 --> 01:31:38,519
Speaker 4: have zero chance whatsoever.

1824
01:31:38,600 --> 01:31:39,639
Speaker 5: It wasn't the case at all.

1825
01:31:40,080 --> 01:31:41,800
Speaker 8: I know it's not a popular thing to say, and

1826
01:31:41,840 --> 01:31:44,000
Speaker 8: I'm not trying to say trust me, I'm not trying

1827
01:31:44,040 --> 01:31:46,320
Speaker 8: to say there are there are certain trends. But that's

1828
01:31:46,320 --> 01:31:48,680
Speaker 8: a perfect example. Clemson Duke. I think it's actually Tomorrow night,

1829
01:31:48,680 --> 01:31:50,639
Speaker 8: Monday night's the only game on TV. It's the only

1830
01:31:50,680 --> 01:31:54,439
Speaker 8: game on TV. Five o'clock my time, eight o'clock East

1831
01:31:54,479 --> 01:31:57,240
Speaker 8: Coast time. I'm sure everyone's gonna be, you know, just

1832
01:31:57,880 --> 01:32:01,160
Speaker 8: drooling waiting to watch it. And it's not giant teams either,

1833
01:32:01,200 --> 01:32:03,240
Speaker 8: by the way, it's Clemson Duke. If it was Clemson

1834
01:32:03,280 --> 01:32:05,320
Speaker 8: Duke and basketball, maybe a little more of interest to

1835
01:32:05,560 --> 01:32:07,439
Speaker 8: a lot of people. But still it's the only thing

1836
01:32:07,439 --> 01:32:11,640
Speaker 8: on It's the only show in town. Yeah, listen, it

1837
01:32:11,680 --> 01:32:16,519
Speaker 8: doesn't matter anything. Especially I'm talking about especially in college sports.

1838
01:32:16,760 --> 01:32:21,160
Speaker 8: Great point, Brian, College sports always new squads coming in

1839
01:32:21,200 --> 01:32:25,120
Speaker 8: and out, not so much as eighty seven players ninety

1840
01:32:25,120 --> 01:32:28,840
Speaker 8: seven people. But doesn't matter. Those trends mean nothing, trust me.

1841
01:32:28,920 --> 01:32:32,760
Speaker 8: If anything, the other way, you should bet because it's

1842
01:32:32,760 --> 01:32:36,080
Speaker 8: going to revert to the mean. And what happens is

1843
01:32:36,160 --> 01:32:39,360
Speaker 8: people still bet on trends because there are so many

1844
01:32:39,400 --> 01:32:42,920
Speaker 8: people out there talking about trends in the space that

1845
01:32:43,120 --> 01:32:46,120
Speaker 8: those little bets on volume still go towards the trend,

1846
01:32:46,520 --> 01:32:48,439
Speaker 8: if anything, revert to the mean.

1847
01:32:48,320 --> 01:32:51,280
Speaker 3: At the Capitol at the peak of the number. That's fascinating.

1848
01:32:51,360 --> 01:32:53,800
Speaker 6: And you know what a perfect example of what you're

1849
01:32:53,800 --> 01:32:57,479
Speaker 6: talking about, Brian and crack both of you is like

1850
01:32:57,840 --> 01:33:00,519
Speaker 6: I was on the call for a game last night

1851
01:33:01,280 --> 01:33:04,080
Speaker 6: where I'm in the booth watching Idaho State take on

1852
01:33:04,200 --> 01:33:07,360
Speaker 6: San Diego State, and the roster turnover for Idaho State

1853
01:33:07,479 --> 01:33:11,880
Speaker 6: was so immense seventy plus new players on that roster,

1854
01:33:12,240 --> 01:33:15,479
Speaker 6: an entirely new coaching staff, that there wasn't a single

1855
01:33:15,479 --> 01:33:18,639
Speaker 6: book to my knowledge that even handicap that game. Nobody

1856
01:33:18,680 --> 01:33:23,240
Speaker 6: wanted to take any handle because it's a liability, like like,

1857
01:33:23,280 --> 01:33:25,519
Speaker 6: who knows what's going to happen? You can't put a

1858
01:33:25,560 --> 01:33:28,320
Speaker 6: total on a game with that many new faces. But

1859
01:33:28,439 --> 01:33:33,519
Speaker 6: you absolutely could not in good conscience have a top

1860
01:33:33,640 --> 01:33:39,080
Speaker 6: twenty team facing a Colorado team with Coach Prime making

1861
01:33:39,120 --> 01:33:42,479
Speaker 6: headlines every single week without putting some sort of number

1862
01:33:42,520 --> 01:33:44,960
Speaker 6: on it. And so, like you said, crack, I mean,

1863
01:33:45,040 --> 01:33:48,560
Speaker 6: things revert to the mean. You know, you have opportunities

1864
01:33:48,600 --> 01:33:52,880
Speaker 6: there because these books are forced to just pick a number,

1865
01:33:52,960 --> 01:33:56,559
Speaker 6: throw a dart out of dartboard and guess. And if

1866
01:33:56,600 --> 01:33:59,479
Speaker 6: you watched any Jackson State, if you knew something about

1867
01:33:59,479 --> 01:34:02,160
Speaker 6: these apps eats that Coach Prime was bringing in, maybe

1868
01:34:02,200 --> 01:34:03,880
Speaker 6: you could have gotten an edge on the bucks.

1869
01:34:05,120 --> 01:34:05,320
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1870
01:34:05,439 --> 01:34:08,880
Speaker 8: Great, great point. And you know is that you would

1871
01:34:08,920 --> 01:34:10,479
Speaker 8: know more than this about that. I was trying to

1872
01:34:10,479 --> 01:34:12,519
Speaker 8: think of that number when Brian said that number of

1873
01:34:12,560 --> 01:34:16,040
Speaker 8: eighty seven players. You're saying seventy players. You know, you've

1874
01:34:16,040 --> 01:34:18,880
Speaker 8: had much more experience than me playing here, of course, so.

1875
01:34:19,120 --> 01:34:21,360
Speaker 3: Does that happen? Is that normal?

1876
01:34:21,439 --> 01:34:25,160
Speaker 8: That doesn't sound normal that many seventy people turnover. I know,

1877
01:34:25,160 --> 01:34:28,200
Speaker 8: of course the eighty seveny, but I mean seventy people

1878
01:34:28,360 --> 01:34:31,640
Speaker 8: turn over, and you're saying the coaches were this is

1879
01:34:32,000 --> 01:34:36,280
Speaker 8: unbelievable that that information really, How do you even put

1880
01:34:36,320 --> 01:34:39,320
Speaker 8: that into a model. How do you even calculate that

1881
01:34:39,600 --> 01:34:42,080
Speaker 8: where a sportsbook, you know, can come up with one

1882
01:34:42,120 --> 01:34:43,920
Speaker 8: sports book it takes to put up a line. A

1883
01:34:43,960 --> 01:34:45,920
Speaker 8: lot of the other sports books will copy that. But

1884
01:34:45,960 --> 01:34:47,400
Speaker 8: that situation is really tough.

1885
01:34:47,400 --> 01:34:49,479
Speaker 4: Good Can you imagine the trend crack where it's like,

1886
01:34:49,520 --> 01:34:52,200
Speaker 4: but Idaho State coming in, they've won three or four on.

1887
01:34:52,200 --> 01:34:54,439
Speaker 5: The road, It's like, who cares they go by a

1888
01:34:54,479 --> 01:34:55,000
Speaker 5: new David.

1889
01:34:56,240 --> 01:34:58,960
Speaker 8: That's exactly what I'm saying that. Yeah, but that's they

1890
01:34:59,040 --> 01:35:00,800
Speaker 8: got nothing to talk about it have to use that

1891
01:35:01,160 --> 01:35:03,320
Speaker 8: as something to talk about for a betting angle, and

1892
01:35:03,360 --> 01:35:06,400
Speaker 8: it's so bad. So I'm glad we put that out there.

1893
01:35:06,560 --> 01:35:09,639
Speaker 8: I'm glad you guys understand it because some people, really,

1894
01:35:09,920 --> 01:35:12,840
Speaker 8: I gotta tell you, I even I have friends, imagine this.

1895
01:35:13,120 --> 01:35:14,600
Speaker 8: Imagine I have friends around me.

1896
01:35:15,120 --> 01:35:15,760
Speaker 3: I have friends that.

1897
01:35:15,760 --> 01:35:18,720
Speaker 8: Want to listen to me. They won't even say, oh no, no,

1898
01:35:18,840 --> 01:35:20,880
Speaker 8: I'm betting my own money. I'm coming up with my

1899
01:35:20,920 --> 01:35:25,920
Speaker 8: own teams. It's unbelievable that I have one particular friend

1900
01:35:25,920 --> 01:35:28,000
Speaker 8: that he says, I'm betting two hundred a game, one

1901
01:35:28,040 --> 01:35:30,719
Speaker 8: hundred of game. I'm betting my own knowledge, my own watching,

1902
01:35:31,080 --> 01:35:33,719
Speaker 8: and of course you know he's in a homeless shelter

1903
01:35:33,760 --> 01:35:34,519
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Speaker 4: To Week one of the NFL. You know, I'm looking

1926
01:36:52,720 --> 01:36:56,080
Speaker 4: at all these you know, the points spreads and the

1927
01:36:56,160 --> 01:37:00,280
Speaker 4: totals and all this. What I'm really interested in are

1928
01:37:00,320 --> 01:37:05,439
Speaker 4: these rookie quarterbacks and their team totals. Like, for instance,

1929
01:37:05,840 --> 01:37:10,639
Speaker 4: how many points are the Houston Texans gonna score in CJ.

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1932
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Speaker 4: Like how many points are the Colts led by Anthony

1933
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1934
01:37:23,400 --> 01:37:26,040
Speaker 4: in college? How many points are they going to score

1935
01:37:26,400 --> 01:37:28,240
Speaker 4: even at home against Jacksonville?

1936
01:37:28,760 --> 01:37:28,920
Speaker 3: Right?

1937
01:37:29,000 --> 01:37:31,840
Speaker 4: So maybe you look at that instead of just going

1938
01:37:31,880 --> 01:37:35,240
Speaker 4: straight to the points spread. Maybe there's some value on

1939
01:37:35,400 --> 01:37:37,840
Speaker 4: team totals as well. Just something to keep in mind there.

1940
01:37:37,840 --> 01:37:39,880
Speaker 5: I think, yeah, yeah, you know, I.

1941
01:37:42,120 --> 01:37:44,920
Speaker 6: Look at any team that's breaking in a rookie quarterback

1942
01:37:45,120 --> 01:37:50,559
Speaker 6: as a liability in terms of trust factor, because we

1943
01:37:50,640 --> 01:37:54,160
Speaker 6: see it all the time in baseball. For example, brand

1944
01:37:54,240 --> 01:37:58,040
Speaker 6: new rookie pitcher call up again in his first action

1945
01:37:58,200 --> 01:38:01,240
Speaker 6: his first taste at the major leagues, Roden high off

1946
01:38:01,280 --> 01:38:06,360
Speaker 6: of adrenaline and just mithing batters, you know, the first

1947
01:38:06,360 --> 01:38:09,599
Speaker 6: maybe three or four games, a couple of times through

1948
01:38:09,600 --> 01:38:13,040
Speaker 6: the lineup, his fifth or six outing, all of a sudden,

1949
01:38:13,080 --> 01:38:15,880
Speaker 6: he's getting tagged. People are like, wait, what happened to

1950
01:38:15,920 --> 01:38:18,840
Speaker 6: this guy? He was like kid dynamite three weeks ago. Well,

1951
01:38:18,880 --> 01:38:22,719
Speaker 6: the reason is because the league catches up these hitters

1952
01:38:22,720 --> 01:38:26,240
Speaker 6: are no dummies. Neither are their hitting coaches. They study

1953
01:38:26,280 --> 01:38:29,040
Speaker 6: the film, they see if there's any tells, is he

1954
01:38:29,080 --> 01:38:32,280
Speaker 6: tipping any pitches? Does he get into a rhythm where

1955
01:38:32,320 --> 01:38:36,320
Speaker 6: there's tendencies. You know this is gonna happen with CJ. Stroud,

1956
01:38:36,360 --> 01:38:41,320
Speaker 6: Bryce Young and Anthony Richardson. Defensive coordinators are smart. Okay,

1957
01:38:41,439 --> 01:38:44,599
Speaker 6: so you have your first outing as a rookie goes

1958
01:38:44,640 --> 01:38:48,519
Speaker 6: really well, say okay, well, try to do that next week.

1959
01:38:48,760 --> 01:38:51,559
Speaker 6: You know, try to do that week six. It gets

1960
01:38:51,600 --> 01:38:54,559
Speaker 6: tougher and tougher and tougher. So I agree with you, Brian.

1961
01:38:54,920 --> 01:38:58,840
Speaker 6: These win totals for the Houston Texans, the Carolina Panthers,

1962
01:38:59,360 --> 01:39:02,240
Speaker 6: the Indian Apple as cults. You know, if you have

1963
01:39:02,360 --> 01:39:05,360
Speaker 6: this gut feeling or if you've been watching tape or

1964
01:39:05,840 --> 01:39:08,080
Speaker 6: you know, you've had an opportunity to check out some

1965
01:39:08,120 --> 01:39:10,840
Speaker 6: of the practices and and you're seeing some of the

1966
01:39:10,880 --> 01:39:14,360
Speaker 6: liabilities play out live and living color. You know, some

1967
01:39:14,360 --> 01:39:19,080
Speaker 6: some of those unders, you know, they're they're alluring to

1968
01:39:19,120 --> 01:39:20,200
Speaker 6: me at least.

1969
01:39:20,560 --> 01:39:21,519
Speaker 3: Oh great points.

1970
01:39:21,640 --> 01:39:24,320
Speaker 8: Uh, We've probably never had had a year like this

1971
01:39:24,439 --> 01:39:28,080
Speaker 8: with so many new quarterbacks starting the first weekend, So

1972
01:39:28,280 --> 01:39:31,360
Speaker 8: it's a It's definitely something to look at, and I

1973
01:39:31,400 --> 01:39:34,680
Speaker 8: hope we put that in our calculations. Also, there is

1974
01:39:34,760 --> 01:39:39,320
Speaker 8: a human feel to it too. There's not just a

1975
01:39:39,360 --> 01:39:43,479
Speaker 8: mathematical feel to thing or you know, a model driven field.

1976
01:39:43,520 --> 01:39:45,880
Speaker 8: You have to have a human element side to it.

1977
01:39:46,600 --> 01:39:49,200
Speaker 8: A lot of things in life and especially something like this,

1978
01:39:49,320 --> 01:39:51,280
Speaker 8: so you'd want to find out as a matter of fact,

1979
01:39:51,280 --> 01:39:52,800
Speaker 8: to be real, blunt, guys, something just hit me.

1980
01:39:52,840 --> 01:39:53,559
Speaker 3: I totally forgot.

1981
01:39:53,680 --> 01:39:54,160
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1982
01:39:54,240 --> 01:39:59,360
Speaker 8: Week one NFL probably the best week of the year

1983
01:39:59,520 --> 01:40:04,240
Speaker 8: to bet props. Why because they jud they go off

1984
01:40:04,560 --> 01:40:07,639
Speaker 8: last season stats, they don't go off the new season,

1985
01:40:08,040 --> 01:40:11,439
Speaker 8: So Week one probably, but no listen. Of course, the playoffs,

1986
01:40:11,520 --> 01:40:15,120
Speaker 8: especially super Bowl, some great opportunities for props. But I'll

1987
01:40:15,120 --> 01:40:19,040
Speaker 8: say Week one and the last week of NFL because

1988
01:40:19,080 --> 01:40:21,080
Speaker 8: of the people who's going to start, who's not going

1989
01:40:21,160 --> 01:40:24,320
Speaker 8: to start? But Week one fantastic week the bet props

1990
01:40:24,479 --> 01:40:27,120
Speaker 8: because they go off last year's numbers. Now exactly this

1991
01:40:27,160 --> 01:40:29,519
Speaker 8: subject you guys are talking about, what do they do

1992
01:40:29,600 --> 01:40:30,480
Speaker 8: in this situation?

1993
01:40:31,200 --> 01:40:32,040
Speaker 3: Very interesting.

1994
01:40:32,439 --> 01:40:35,519
Speaker 8: I'm interested to see what these what these quarterbacks do

1995
01:40:35,760 --> 01:40:38,160
Speaker 8: these new ones in the first week here.

1996
01:40:38,560 --> 01:40:40,320
Speaker 4: You know, it's something else to keep in mind, too,

1997
01:40:40,400 --> 01:40:42,800
Speaker 4: Crack you talked about this just the parody of the

1998
01:40:42,880 --> 01:40:46,679
Speaker 4: league and this isn't breaking news. Parody is the driving

1999
01:40:46,720 --> 01:40:50,280
Speaker 4: force in the NFL. But just to illustrate that, a

2000
01:40:50,320 --> 01:40:54,320
Speaker 4: couple of these lines where you think, hey, man, the Bengals.

2001
01:40:54,439 --> 01:40:57,080
Speaker 4: Bengals were just in the AFC title game. They've been

2002
01:40:57,120 --> 01:40:59,720
Speaker 4: in the AFC title game the last two years. Their

2003
01:40:59,760 --> 01:41:02,680
Speaker 4: favor by two and a half points against the Browns.

2004
01:41:02,720 --> 01:41:04,760
Speaker 4: Some people are very high on the Browns. But yes,

2005
01:41:04,920 --> 01:41:07,559
Speaker 4: you would think the Bengal, it's the Bengals over here.

2006
01:41:07,600 --> 01:41:10,519
Speaker 4: They're barely favored on the road. Same thing with the Niners.

2007
01:41:10,560 --> 01:41:12,959
Speaker 4: They're favored by two and a half against the Steelers.

2008
01:41:13,000 --> 01:41:13,280
Speaker 3: Team.

2009
01:41:13,560 --> 01:41:15,840
Speaker 4: Again, there are some people that are high on the Steelers,

2010
01:41:16,200 --> 01:41:19,519
Speaker 4: but how high not as high as you typically see

2011
01:41:19,600 --> 01:41:22,320
Speaker 4: with the Niners, and that's a small spread on the road.

2012
01:41:22,760 --> 01:41:26,240
Speaker 4: Eagles were a whisker away from winning it all. They're

2013
01:41:26,280 --> 01:41:28,920
Speaker 4: favored by three and a half. It's not like a

2014
01:41:28,960 --> 01:41:31,519
Speaker 4: college life they're favored by twenty one or something like.

2015
01:41:31,760 --> 01:41:34,480
Speaker 4: They're favored by three and a half against the Patriots

2016
01:41:34,479 --> 01:41:37,360
Speaker 4: team that might have a losing record this season. Again,

2017
01:41:37,400 --> 01:41:39,560
Speaker 4: when it's all said and done, so, it's something to

2018
01:41:39,640 --> 01:41:41,960
Speaker 4: keep in mind when you just you get into.

2019
01:41:41,760 --> 01:41:44,679
Speaker 5: This college I think Crack right and Rich too.

2020
01:41:44,960 --> 01:41:47,960
Speaker 4: The day after all this college stuff, you got to

2021
01:41:48,000 --> 01:41:52,320
Speaker 4: reprogram yourself to think more about a parody driven league

2022
01:41:52,320 --> 01:41:54,360
Speaker 4: and what that means from a betting perspective.

2023
01:41:54,400 --> 01:41:58,080
Speaker 6: A one and just like Krack said, you gotta look

2024
01:41:58,120 --> 01:42:01,160
Speaker 6: at these trends in a one year of vacuum. You

2025
01:42:01,240 --> 01:42:04,600
Speaker 6: cannot look at any carryover from year to year. In

2026
01:42:04,640 --> 01:42:09,040
Speaker 6: the NFL, they're slight carryover, right, because Deshaun Watson, even

2027
01:42:09,080 --> 01:42:11,360
Speaker 6: though he's coming off his worst season as a pro,

2028
01:42:11,840 --> 01:42:14,879
Speaker 6: he's a known quantity. You mentioned the Bengals Joe Burrow.

2029
01:42:15,080 --> 01:42:19,640
Speaker 6: The most consequential position in the NFL is the quarterback

2030
01:42:19,680 --> 01:42:23,200
Speaker 6: of the Cincinnati Bengals. You look over at the matchup

2031
01:42:23,240 --> 01:42:26,000
Speaker 6: you were just talking about with Jellen Hurts and Mac Jones,

2032
01:42:26,360 --> 01:42:31,160
Speaker 6: known quantities at these consequential positions in college football. I mean,

2033
01:42:31,200 --> 01:42:34,400
Speaker 6: it's a constant revolving door. Even if you get comfortable

2034
01:42:34,439 --> 01:42:37,479
Speaker 6: with a quarterback, well, guess what, that comfort last two

2035
01:42:37,560 --> 01:42:40,160
Speaker 6: years tops most of the time if he's super talented,

2036
01:42:40,520 --> 01:42:43,320
Speaker 6: and maybe three or four years if a guy just

2037
01:42:43,400 --> 01:42:46,479
Speaker 6: sticks around a program. So yeah, you do have to

2038
01:42:46,560 --> 01:42:49,680
Speaker 6: reprogram your brain every year. That's why there may be

2039
01:42:49,800 --> 01:42:53,439
Speaker 6: value on teams who are breaking in new quarterbacks because

2040
01:42:53,439 --> 01:42:57,360
Speaker 6: there's so much volatility there. Carolina new quarterback, brand new coach,

2041
01:42:57,400 --> 01:43:00,839
Speaker 6: and Frank Wright down there with the Panthers. Anthony Richardson,

2042
01:43:00,960 --> 01:43:04,679
Speaker 6: it's a mess this preseason with Jonathan Taylor now on pup.

2043
01:43:05,120 --> 01:43:07,360
Speaker 6: We won't see him until Week five at the earliest.

2044
01:43:07,400 --> 01:43:10,759
Speaker 6: Anthony Richardson, brand new over there, Shane Stiken head coach,

2045
01:43:11,040 --> 01:43:15,519
Speaker 6: brand new, new culture. We'll see right, Demiko Ryans, brand

2046
01:43:15,560 --> 01:43:18,759
Speaker 6: new culture, brand new coach, brand new quarterback.

2047
01:43:18,840 --> 01:43:19,679
Speaker 3: CJ. Stroud.

2048
01:43:19,920 --> 01:43:23,080
Speaker 6: So there may be some value again if you have

2049
01:43:23,160 --> 01:43:26,599
Speaker 6: some further insider, you're really batting down the hatches watching

2050
01:43:26,720 --> 01:43:28,719
Speaker 6: every single preseason moment.

2051
01:43:28,800 --> 01:43:29,280
Speaker 3: For CJ.

2052
01:43:29,400 --> 01:43:33,200
Speaker 6: Stroud, for example, he was only in on eight series,

2053
01:43:33,240 --> 01:43:36,160
Speaker 6: but he started every single game. So you can do

2054
01:43:36,280 --> 01:43:39,600
Speaker 6: a little bit of the the foreshadowing. You could do

2055
01:43:39,640 --> 01:43:41,800
Speaker 6: a little bit of the Hey, you know, how's it

2056
01:43:41,840 --> 01:43:43,400
Speaker 6: going to look, strength of division?

2057
01:43:43,680 --> 01:43:45,840
Speaker 3: You know a conference schedule.

2058
01:43:45,960 --> 01:43:48,120
Speaker 6: You can take a look down the road and maybe

2059
01:43:48,120 --> 01:43:50,479
Speaker 6: there's some value on these win totals on the season.

2060
01:43:51,240 --> 01:43:55,439
Speaker 3: You know, I love betting win totals. You usually all

2061
01:43:55,479 --> 01:43:56,080
Speaker 3: have five.

2062
01:43:55,960 --> 01:43:59,840
Speaker 8: Or six before the season because I travel back on

2063
01:43:59,880 --> 01:44:03,160
Speaker 8: from Las Vegas to New Jersey, so I have many

2064
01:44:03,720 --> 01:44:06,439
Speaker 8: I have many sportsbooks to choose from. This year, I've

2065
01:44:06,479 --> 01:44:09,000
Speaker 8: only bet about two or three of the win totals.

2066
01:44:09,000 --> 01:44:10,560
Speaker 8: Like I told, I gave you guys, I think I

2067
01:44:10,640 --> 01:44:14,400
Speaker 8: bet three. I gave you guys the unders. But I

2068
01:44:14,439 --> 01:44:18,880
Speaker 8: think green Bay also, this first game is everything, though

2069
01:44:18,920 --> 01:44:20,599
Speaker 8: you know, I'm only looking at it from green Bay

2070
01:44:20,640 --> 01:44:23,880
Speaker 8: side a little bit too much, probably because Chicago. It's

2071
01:44:23,920 --> 01:44:26,519
Speaker 8: a giant game for Chicago too. But I just think

2072
01:44:26,560 --> 01:44:30,960
Speaker 8: that the love for green Bay there really hasn't been

2073
01:44:31,000 --> 01:44:33,160
Speaker 8: a lot of love with mister Love. So I think

2074
01:44:33,160 --> 01:44:35,599
Speaker 8: that he showed us last year that he was he

2075
01:44:35,640 --> 01:44:38,639
Speaker 8: was very he was very good last year. The times

2076
01:44:38,640 --> 01:44:40,439
Speaker 8: that we did get to see him, and I think

2077
01:44:41,720 --> 01:44:43,840
Speaker 8: I still like the I still see overs out there

2078
01:44:43,880 --> 01:44:46,040
Speaker 8: over seven and a half minus like twenty five and

2079
01:44:46,320 --> 01:44:49,240
Speaker 8: minus thirty. I think still probably a decent bet to

2080
01:44:49,280 --> 01:44:50,439
Speaker 8: bet the over Green Bay.

2081
01:44:50,760 --> 01:44:53,479
Speaker 5: Man, I'm so curious what happens with Green Bay.

2082
01:44:53,520 --> 01:44:55,439
Speaker 4: I've done a bunch of fill in stuff for a

2083
01:44:55,520 --> 01:44:59,280
Speaker 4: Milwaukee station, crack, and they don't like me because I

2084
01:44:59,320 --> 01:45:01,040
Speaker 4: have a different view you on them.

2085
01:45:02,400 --> 01:45:05,440
Speaker 5: I'm just not sold. I'm not eighty.

2086
01:45:05,200 --> 01:45:09,000
Speaker 4: Three passing attempts for Jordan Love in his NFL career.

2087
01:45:09,760 --> 01:45:12,360
Speaker 4: And I think they're gonna be the Patriots of the NFC.

2088
01:45:12,439 --> 01:45:14,800
Speaker 4: I think they're gonna try to win with your running game,

2089
01:45:15,240 --> 01:45:18,519
Speaker 4: solid defense, and then mix in Jordan Love. I think

2090
01:45:18,560 --> 01:45:22,160
Speaker 4: that's gonna largely be their formula, and in the NFC

2091
01:45:22,200 --> 01:45:24,360
Speaker 4: they might have a little bit more success. You might

2092
01:45:24,400 --> 01:45:26,400
Speaker 4: be right, they might get to eight wins this season.

2093
01:45:26,680 --> 01:45:29,320
Speaker 4: It wouldn't be crazy. But I think going into that

2094
01:45:29,360 --> 01:45:32,759
Speaker 4: first game against Chicago, justin fields, that's gonna be starting

2095
01:45:32,840 --> 01:45:36,240
Speaker 4: number twenty six, that's gonna be start number two for

2096
01:45:36,400 --> 01:45:39,320
Speaker 4: Jordan Love. Like that's a big difference. And listen, it's

2097
01:45:39,360 --> 01:45:41,080
Speaker 4: not to say that Green Bay can't win the game.

2098
01:45:41,280 --> 01:45:45,200
Speaker 4: Of course they can, but that is a big test

2099
01:45:45,439 --> 01:45:49,240
Speaker 4: on the road against the divisional rival that the Packers

2100
01:45:49,280 --> 01:45:53,120
Speaker 4: have steamrolled over the last three decades. But they've had

2101
01:45:53,200 --> 01:45:55,840
Speaker 4: Farv and they've had Aaron Rodgers. So I can't wait

2102
01:45:55,880 --> 01:45:57,760
Speaker 4: for that Week one game against the Bier.

2103
01:45:58,080 --> 01:46:00,320
Speaker 8: Years of those guys, of those guys, You're right, yeah,

2104
01:46:00,479 --> 01:46:02,280
Speaker 8: it's hard to believe thirty years with those two.

2105
01:46:02,479 --> 01:46:07,120
Speaker 6: Well, and like Brian just said, you know there there

2106
01:46:07,160 --> 01:46:09,960
Speaker 6: it is right in the NFL. We know where the

2107
01:46:10,000 --> 01:46:12,760
Speaker 6: line is drawn. You know, we have tiers. We do

2108
01:46:12,880 --> 01:46:17,360
Speaker 6: this every single year, like, which are our top tier quarterbacks?

2109
01:46:17,479 --> 01:46:20,480
Speaker 6: Is like can anybody occupy the same space as Mahomes?

2110
01:46:20,520 --> 01:46:20,720
Speaker 3: You know?

2111
01:46:21,160 --> 01:46:23,599
Speaker 6: Well, okay, well let's get to tier two. I've got

2112
01:46:23,640 --> 01:46:26,360
Speaker 6: better debate here, more names, more names, and what about

2113
01:46:26,400 --> 01:46:26,880
Speaker 6: tier three?

2114
01:46:26,960 --> 01:46:27,160
Speaker 4: You know?

2115
01:46:27,240 --> 01:46:29,400
Speaker 6: And we could do this the whole time. But at

2116
01:46:29,439 --> 01:46:33,080
Speaker 6: the end of the day, there's about twenty very worthy quarterbacks.

2117
01:46:33,080 --> 01:46:35,840
Speaker 6: If they're paired with a decent running game and a

2118
01:46:35,880 --> 01:46:40,439
Speaker 6: stout enough defense, any one of say twenty fifteen teams

2119
01:46:40,439 --> 01:46:43,280
Speaker 6: maybe I'm being too generous, can win a Super Bowl,

2120
01:46:43,560 --> 01:46:47,080
Speaker 6: But it's typically the team with the most elite quarterbacks

2121
01:46:47,160 --> 01:46:50,559
Speaker 6: playing with the healthiest offense with weapons surrounding them and

2122
01:46:50,600 --> 01:46:52,640
Speaker 6: a defense that can get them the ball back in

2123
01:46:52,680 --> 01:46:55,960
Speaker 6: the turnover margin that have the most success. Those are

2124
01:46:56,120 --> 01:46:59,880
Speaker 6: great predictive factors as we continue on through the NFL season.

2125
01:47:00,400 --> 01:47:04,440
Speaker 4: Hey, I've got a devilish question from my betting advisor

2126
01:47:05,080 --> 01:47:07,519
Speaker 4: right around the corner. I'm so curious what the answer

2127
01:47:07,600 --> 01:47:10,840
Speaker 4: is going to be. First though, Nick Cope on the

2128
01:47:11,000 --> 01:47:14,599
Speaker 4: updates today, doing a fantastic job, Nick, what is the late.

2129
01:47:14,479 --> 01:47:17,160
Speaker 11: Appreciate that, Brian, you know how to tease man? That

2130
01:47:17,280 --> 01:47:20,679
Speaker 11: was great. You got rich audibly like, oh Man, can't wait.

2131
01:47:22,600 --> 01:47:25,640
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm really like, I'm I'm the dummy. I

2132
01:47:26,240 --> 01:47:29,120
Speaker 3: every single team tease. I'm like, what are we talking about?

2133
01:47:29,160 --> 01:47:32,000
Speaker 3: That is going to be great? All right, guys.

2134
01:47:32,040 --> 01:47:35,200
Speaker 11: Didn't have some NFL news this morning, as the Dallas

2135
01:47:35,280 --> 01:47:38,800
Speaker 11: Cowboys have paid another one of their key players, right

2136
01:47:38,880 --> 01:47:42,000
Speaker 11: tackle Terren Steele, agreeing with the team on a five year,

2137
01:47:42,080 --> 01:47:45,760
Speaker 11: eighty six point eight million dollar extension. Fifty million of

2138
01:47:45,800 --> 01:47:48,320
Speaker 11: that guaranteed, So you got him. He got Zach Martin

2139
01:47:48,360 --> 01:47:51,280
Speaker 11: and tray Von Diggs all getting extensions here before the

2140
01:47:51,280 --> 01:47:54,000
Speaker 11: start of the season. College football, we got one game

2141
01:47:54,080 --> 01:47:57,240
Speaker 11: underway Rutgers already out in front of Northwestern seven to

2142
01:47:57,240 --> 01:48:00,280
Speaker 11: nothing midway through the first quarter. Also coming up later,

2143
01:48:00,320 --> 01:48:03,040
Speaker 11: you got number eighteen Oregon State at San Jose State

2144
01:48:03,040 --> 01:48:05,040
Speaker 11: at three thirty. Then, of course we got the big

2145
01:48:05,080 --> 01:48:08,559
Speaker 11: Top ten showdown tonight in Orlando seven thirty Eastern, number

2146
01:48:08,560 --> 01:48:12,439
Speaker 11: five LSU and number eight Florida, The Action Network reports.

2147
01:48:12,479 --> 01:48:15,800
Speaker 11: At Kansas quarterback Jalen Daniels is expected to play in

2148
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Speaker 11: the jayhawks next game on Friday, after he missed their

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01:48:18,439 --> 01:48:21,960
Speaker 11: season opener with back tightness. To have one baseball game

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Speaker 11: currently going on, Red's leading the Cubs two to one

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01:48:24,600 --> 01:48:27,040
Speaker 11: in the second inning pair of first hinning home runs

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Speaker 11: for Cincinnati. Now this game having implications in the NL

2153
01:48:30,720 --> 01:48:34,639
Speaker 11: Central Race, but also in the NL Wildcard race. Feeble

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01:48:34,680 --> 01:48:37,960
Speaker 11: World Cup Team USA lost to Lithuania one ten to

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Speaker 11: one oh four. They were down by as many as

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01:48:39,640 --> 01:48:42,120
Speaker 11: twenty one points in this one, made a late push

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Speaker 11: but could not get over the hill. The US finishes

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Speaker 11: second in the group. They're set to face Italy in

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Speaker 11: the quarterfinals on Tuesday. Finally, Max Verstappan won the Italian

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Speaker 11: Grand Prix, giving him a record tenth consecutive Formula One victory.

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Speaker 5: Guys, back to you, Nick, somebody wrecked the guy? Right, Yeah,

2162
01:49:00,240 --> 01:49:02,599
Speaker 5: what were you doing? How long is it gonna take?

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01:49:03,160 --> 01:49:07,240
Speaker 4: Gosh, someone's gotta do so we gotta go with ulterior

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01:49:07,280 --> 01:49:08,120
Speaker 4: motives over here.

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Speaker 5: We can't beat Verstaff In goodness.

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Speaker 4: This Fox Sports Radio is Countdown to Kickoff, presented by BETMGM. Okay,

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01:49:15,080 --> 01:49:18,639
Speaker 4: so here's the devilish question. Yeah, Crack, if you are

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01:49:18,680 --> 01:49:22,240
Speaker 4: my betting advisor, okay, I know more times than not

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01:49:22,439 --> 01:49:26,960
Speaker 4: you're allergic to laying big juice, right, meaning, if it's

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01:49:27,000 --> 01:49:29,600
Speaker 4: minus two hundred, you got a risk two hundred to

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01:49:29,680 --> 01:49:33,640
Speaker 4: win one hundred. You generally don't see the value in that.

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01:49:33,680 --> 01:49:36,800
Speaker 4: There are exceptions, but generally you don't get down like that.

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01:49:37,479 --> 01:49:42,120
Speaker 4: If I say to you, Crack, I think CJ. Stroud

2174
01:49:42,360 --> 01:49:46,679
Speaker 4: is a lock to throw an interception against the Baltimore Ravens. Okay,

2175
01:49:47,280 --> 01:49:49,920
Speaker 4: if you're my betting advisor, you might not make this bet.

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01:49:50,240 --> 01:49:53,120
Speaker 4: But if I say that to you, what and I

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01:49:53,160 --> 01:49:55,000
Speaker 4: don't know the betting line right now for him to

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01:49:55,000 --> 01:49:59,639
Speaker 4: throw an interception if it's minus one fifty, if it's

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Speaker 4: mine one seventy, Like, where does it have to get where?

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Speaker 5: You say? I would advise you not to do that.

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Speaker 8: Well, the first advice I would give you is never

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01:50:08,280 --> 01:50:11,040
Speaker 8: use the word lock, because that is not in my

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01:50:11,160 --> 01:50:16,240
Speaker 8: repertoire at all. There's no locks in anything sports betting wise.

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01:50:17,520 --> 01:50:20,360
Speaker 8: You know there there is things you may like and

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01:50:20,400 --> 01:50:24,120
Speaker 8: grant it. There are times that the money lines may

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01:50:24,160 --> 01:50:27,040
Speaker 8: be too low on certain things.

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01:50:27,360 --> 01:50:29,920
Speaker 3: It doesn't equal what it should.

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Speaker 8: In other words, what I'm saying, I'll just look at

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Speaker 8: Let's just look at a I'll look at a first week.

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01:50:34,520 --> 01:50:37,040
Speaker 8: I'm looking for a line of seven. Okay, Washington's giving seven.

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01:50:37,360 --> 01:50:40,760
Speaker 8: So Washington's laying seven points to Arizona. The money line

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01:50:40,800 --> 01:50:44,000
Speaker 8: is about minus three twenty. But yet, if I find

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01:50:44,000 --> 01:50:47,760
Speaker 8: a money line that's minus two sixty, I'll tell you what,

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01:50:48,400 --> 01:50:52,120
Speaker 8: I would definitely throw that in my betting for the day,

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01:50:52,160 --> 01:50:54,680
Speaker 8: believe it or not, based on the value of a

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01:50:54,720 --> 01:50:57,280
Speaker 8: sports book that may have had. You know, we have

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01:50:57,360 --> 01:51:00,000
Speaker 8: big sports books here. Someone comes into a bed end

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01:51:00,240 --> 01:51:03,280
Speaker 8: to an MGM sportsbook. What you see behind me. Someone

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01:51:03,400 --> 01:51:06,720
Speaker 8: comes in there and you know they have to accommodate

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01:51:06,760 --> 01:51:09,720
Speaker 8: their table game players. So what that means is they

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Speaker 8: got a big whale flied in and a private jet

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01:51:12,240 --> 01:51:14,240
Speaker 8: comes in and wants to bet a ton of money

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01:51:14,280 --> 01:51:17,479
Speaker 8: on something, they have to accommodate him, even though it's

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01:51:17,520 --> 01:51:20,360
Speaker 8: gonna make their line and their book go way wacky

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01:51:20,560 --> 01:51:22,600
Speaker 8: compared to the rest of the market. They have to

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01:51:22,600 --> 01:51:25,400
Speaker 8: accommodate that player. They may look for two way action

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01:51:25,520 --> 01:51:29,920
Speaker 8: and then you know, to balance their book. So there

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01:51:29,960 --> 01:51:33,760
Speaker 8: may be some good value on the favorites. That being said,

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Speaker 8: last year, I literally ran down town and I bet

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01:51:38,760 --> 01:51:40,720
Speaker 8: in the National Championship game. I'm trying to think what

2211
01:51:40,760 --> 01:51:43,840
Speaker 8: the money line was, but the money line was way off.

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01:51:44,160 --> 01:51:45,280
Speaker 3: It was so off.

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01:51:45,360 --> 01:51:48,559
Speaker 8: I went down there and I went down downtown and

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01:51:48,560 --> 01:51:50,920
Speaker 8: bet the money line on the favorite and laid, like,

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01:51:51,320 --> 01:51:53,639
Speaker 8: you know, three to one on something that was four

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01:51:53,680 --> 01:51:56,400
Speaker 8: to one everywhere. As a matter of fact, you could

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01:51:56,439 --> 01:51:59,160
Speaker 8: have taken three twenty at some of the sportsbooks.

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01:51:59,160 --> 01:51:59,960
Speaker 3: They were just a scout.

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01:52:00,280 --> 01:52:03,479
Speaker 4: Okay, So here isvidate me. There's some value I needed

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01:52:03,560 --> 01:52:06,760
Speaker 4: to bring it. Refocus on me, crack. Okay, here's what

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Speaker 4: I'm saying.

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Speaker 5: I love I'm not using the lock you've reprogrammed me.

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01:52:10,840 --> 01:52:11,920
Speaker 5: I love CJ.

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01:52:12,040 --> 01:52:14,760
Speaker 4: Stroud to throw an interception in Week one at the

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01:52:14,800 --> 01:52:18,880
Speaker 4: Baltimore Ravens. What do you need to see whether it's

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01:52:18,920 --> 01:52:21,519
Speaker 4: one shop it's at minus one eighty or at this

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01:52:21,560 --> 01:52:24,120
Speaker 4: other shop it's minus one forty. Like, what do you

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01:52:24,200 --> 01:52:27,439
Speaker 4: need to see to say, Brian, you have my blessing,

2229
01:52:27,880 --> 01:52:28,960
Speaker 4: go forth and prosper.

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Speaker 8: Just think people are probably rooting against him, and people

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01:52:33,080 --> 01:52:35,679
Speaker 8: are probably that's a big favorite that opened up nine

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01:52:35,680 --> 01:52:38,760
Speaker 8: went to ten, so people are probably rooting again. That's

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01:52:38,760 --> 01:52:42,720
Speaker 8: probably the way they're betting. Is a interception. But you

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01:52:42,800 --> 01:52:45,360
Speaker 8: said something there that you actually appease to me.

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01:52:45,439 --> 01:52:47,759
Speaker 3: There. You said it's.

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Speaker 8: Maybe minus one forty at one shop or even one

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01:52:49,840 --> 01:52:52,200
Speaker 8: fifty or sixty when it's two hundred and another shop.

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01:52:52,400 --> 01:52:54,240
Speaker 8: Probably a good bet if you can get that type

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01:52:54,240 --> 01:52:57,519
Speaker 8: of a line. And if you really think, if that's

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Speaker 8: the way you think based on maybe his prec he's

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01:53:00,160 --> 01:53:03,000
Speaker 8: embraced on us being this first NFL game, or something

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01:53:03,120 --> 01:53:05,400
Speaker 8: that you see, or maybe something with the ball of

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01:53:05,439 --> 01:53:07,880
Speaker 8: Baltimore defense, you think they're going to rush the quarterback more.

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01:53:08,160 --> 01:53:11,679
Speaker 8: If you think that fits into your particular bettings model

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01:53:11,760 --> 01:53:14,519
Speaker 8: or how you come up with your formula for the game.

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01:53:14,560 --> 01:53:16,760
Speaker 3: There bet it. I have no problem with that.

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01:53:16,800 --> 01:53:18,640
Speaker 8: I have no problem when you betting that, And I

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01:53:18,720 --> 01:53:20,880
Speaker 8: understand why you would bet it, but just find your

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01:53:20,920 --> 01:53:21,400
Speaker 8: best line.

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Speaker 3: Like you said, there you go. Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Also, I mean one of the things that you always

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01:53:25,920 --> 01:53:28,680
Speaker 6: have to do, like we were talking about earlier. You know,

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01:53:28,880 --> 01:53:31,960
Speaker 6: if you want, you know, to take the over on

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01:53:32,080 --> 01:53:36,639
Speaker 6: Jamier Gibbs in the Detroit Lions opener on the road

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01:53:36,680 --> 01:53:39,599
Speaker 6: at Arrowhead, take a look at that Chiefs defense before

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01:53:39,640 --> 01:53:42,519
Speaker 6: you gamble on that, right, you know, if you want

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01:53:42,560 --> 01:53:45,759
Speaker 6: to place a ticket at the window on CJ. Shroud

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01:53:45,880 --> 01:53:49,200
Speaker 6: throwing an interception, take a gander at the depth chart

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01:53:49,320 --> 01:53:51,439
Speaker 6: and some of the changes that have happened on the

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01:53:51,520 --> 01:53:55,760
Speaker 6: Ravens defense. You know, like and this is obviously not

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01:53:55,880 --> 01:54:00,519
Speaker 6: just focused on any one game, Houston, Baltimore, you know, Detroit,

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01:54:00,640 --> 01:54:01,759
Speaker 6: Kansas City, et cetera.

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01:54:02,280 --> 01:54:03,479
Speaker 3: Like do this with all games.

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Speaker 6: I think the focus becomes like like Crack just said,

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01:54:08,280 --> 01:54:11,040
Speaker 6: you know, rookie quarterback opener, a lot of stress, a

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01:54:11,040 --> 01:54:11,799
Speaker 6: lot of pressure.

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01:54:12,240 --> 01:54:14,679
Speaker 3: You know, you figure he may make a mistake.

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01:54:15,280 --> 01:54:18,680
Speaker 6: Well, also you gotta do your homework on the opposition

2269
01:54:19,000 --> 01:54:21,839
Speaker 6: also and say, okay, well what defense is he facing.

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01:54:22,040 --> 01:54:24,760
Speaker 6: I know Ravens typically the brand is good defense, but

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01:54:24,880 --> 01:54:27,400
Speaker 6: is it this year? What are the expectations for them

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01:54:27,400 --> 01:54:30,280
Speaker 6: this year? And yeah, that's the best advice I could

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01:54:30,280 --> 01:54:32,760
Speaker 6: give to anybody going to the window with a prop.

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01:54:33,240 --> 01:54:35,800
Speaker 5: Okay, the advice isn't done. Come it up.

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Speaker 4: Next, we got pick Scalore Crack. We'll have the play

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01:54:39,280 --> 01:54:42,080
Speaker 4: of the day. We got a lot to choose from, right,

2277
01:54:42,680 --> 01:54:45,720
Speaker 4: we got ball tonight. Thankfully, this horrible warm up band

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01:54:45,800 --> 01:54:49,640
Speaker 4: will be over soon, which is Northwestern at Rutgers. Yeah,

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01:54:49,680 --> 01:54:52,600
Speaker 4: the drummers off time. The bass player sucks, you know

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01:54:52,600 --> 01:54:55,440
Speaker 4: what I mean. Like, Thankfully, We've got LSU in Florida

2281
01:54:55,440 --> 01:54:58,520
Speaker 4: State as the Nightcaps. So things are going to be

2282
01:54:58,560 --> 01:55:01,920
Speaker 4: getting better. So we you got some games to pick

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01:55:01,960 --> 01:55:06,000
Speaker 4: from today. Also have Clemson take it on Duke tomorrow.

2284
01:55:06,880 --> 01:55:10,520
Speaker 4: It is up for grabs the Lions Chiefs. Huh, So

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01:55:10,640 --> 01:55:12,240
Speaker 4: you could go in that direction as well. We'll have

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Speaker 4: some picks for you. Right around the corner, we've got

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Speaker 4: Bill Krackenberger sports handicapper from crackwins dot Com. Rich Ornberger

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Speaker 4: with US Today, Penn State, All American.

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Speaker 5: I'm Brian No keep it locked right here.

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01:55:23,880 --> 01:55:27,879
Speaker 4: It's Fox Sports Radios Countdown to Kickoff presented by Bet MGM.

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01:55:29,840 --> 01:55:33,000
Speaker 4: It is Fox Sports Radios Countdown to Kickoff presented by

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Speaker 4: Bett MGM. Props to the crew, Bob Benson, our trusted producer,

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01:55:38,040 --> 01:55:42,600
Speaker 4: Iowa Sam technical producer at jordanaire Nick Cope on the updates,

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01:55:42,640 --> 01:55:43,920
Speaker 4: doing a fantastic job.

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01:55:44,160 --> 01:55:45,080
Speaker 5: You're in great hands.

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Speaker 4: Top of the hour, Fox Sports Sunday rolls on with

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Speaker 4: Steve Hartman and Carrie Rhoades, former NFL safety. He's doing

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Speaker 4: a fantastic job. Keep it locked right here on Fox

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Speaker 4: Sports Radio.

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Speaker 5: All right, let's dive into this.

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01:56:00,520 --> 01:56:01,400
Speaker 2: Rapid fire.

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Speaker 4: Okay, so just looking for a pick at a minimum

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01:56:06,360 --> 01:56:09,040
Speaker 4: from each pract will start with you, what do you

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01:56:09,120 --> 01:56:12,000
Speaker 4: like today or this weekend or even this week with

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01:56:12,080 --> 01:56:14,200
Speaker 4: the Thursday night opener at the NFL.

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01:56:14,560 --> 01:56:17,240
Speaker 8: Nothing crazy here, but there is a play on the

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01:56:17,240 --> 01:56:21,240
Speaker 8: Oregon State San Jose State game at bet MGM. I'll

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01:56:21,240 --> 01:56:23,320
Speaker 8: tell you that they have the best line that I

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01:56:23,360 --> 01:56:26,960
Speaker 8: see of all my lines. First half over twenty seven

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01:56:27,000 --> 01:56:28,760
Speaker 8: and a half minus fifteen.

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01:56:29,800 --> 01:56:30,280
Speaker 3: I like that.

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01:56:30,360 --> 01:56:32,200
Speaker 8: I like, you know, twenty eight is kind of a

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01:56:32,320 --> 01:56:34,840
Speaker 8: kind of a key number, not you know, four four touchdowns,

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01:56:34,840 --> 01:56:38,080
Speaker 8: but I kind of like that one. So over twenty

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01:56:38,120 --> 01:56:41,560
Speaker 8: seven and a half minus fifteen at bet MGM is

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01:56:42,080 --> 01:56:43,000
Speaker 8: a lean I would have.

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01:56:43,800 --> 01:56:45,400
Speaker 5: Okay, Rich, what are you thinking?

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01:56:45,440 --> 01:56:45,640
Speaker 3: Man.

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01:56:45,840 --> 01:56:49,160
Speaker 6: All right, Well, I'll give you a couple Oregon State Beavers.

2320
01:56:49,240 --> 01:56:52,080
Speaker 6: They've got a much better defense than USC, the team

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01:56:52,160 --> 01:56:55,680
Speaker 6: San Jose State Spartans face in Week zero. Dju's got

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01:56:55,720 --> 01:56:58,080
Speaker 6: a lot to prove offensively with the Beaves.

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01:56:58,480 --> 01:57:00,280
Speaker 3: I got Oregon State rolling here.

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Speaker 6: I'll take them minus the fourteen and a half the

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01:57:04,200 --> 01:57:09,520
Speaker 6: point total in this Orlando game, right Florida State LSU

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01:57:09,840 --> 01:57:11,040
Speaker 6: fifty six and a half.

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01:57:11,160 --> 01:57:12,440
Speaker 3: That feels low.

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01:57:12,720 --> 01:57:15,480
Speaker 6: I mean we've got two Heisman hopefuls. I feel like

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01:57:15,520 --> 01:57:18,040
Speaker 6: this is going to be a dual downfield. So I'll

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01:57:18,040 --> 01:57:19,960
Speaker 6: take the over that fifty six and a half. And

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01:57:20,000 --> 01:57:23,400
Speaker 6: then also I'm on the side of FSU. I caught

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01:57:23,440 --> 01:57:25,480
Speaker 6: them at two and a half yesterday. It's down to

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01:57:26,160 --> 01:57:29,520
Speaker 6: plus one and a half. I mean, I might even

2334
01:57:29,560 --> 01:57:32,520
Speaker 6: be entice to take them on the money line. So

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01:57:32,760 --> 01:57:33,520
Speaker 6: that's where I'm at.

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01:57:35,080 --> 01:57:39,080
Speaker 4: I hate to go against one of my favorite people

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01:57:39,120 --> 01:57:42,840
Speaker 4: on Earth, and that is not Hyperbally Rich. I'm on

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01:57:43,000 --> 01:57:46,560
Speaker 4: LSU a point and a half. I am is no

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01:57:47,000 --> 01:57:50,280
Speaker 4: versus Rich oh on this one here, I just look

2340
01:57:50,320 --> 01:57:54,440
Speaker 4: at LSU. Brian Kelly's fantastic football coach. Yeah, and it's

2341
01:57:54,440 --> 01:57:56,960
Speaker 4: not to say that Norvell, is it? But when you

2342
01:57:57,040 --> 01:57:59,280
Speaker 4: take over in year one and win ten games and

2343
01:57:59,360 --> 01:58:02,680
Speaker 4: beat Alabama and win the SEC West, I just don't

2344
01:58:02,720 --> 01:58:05,040
Speaker 4: see them losing to Florida State for a second straight year.

2345
01:58:05,080 --> 01:58:07,800
Speaker 4: And it was fluky last year with a extra point

2346
01:58:07,880 --> 01:58:10,080
Speaker 4: being blocked on the final play of the game.

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01:58:10,120 --> 01:58:12,200
Speaker 5: Would it tied it up? Was going into overtime?

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01:58:12,840 --> 01:58:16,440
Speaker 4: And also the money Crack you mentioned is LSU months

2349
01:58:16,480 --> 01:58:18,680
Speaker 4: ago was favored by three and now you get all

2350
01:58:18,800 --> 01:58:21,400
Speaker 4: this Noles money coming in. I'd rather be on the

2351
01:58:21,440 --> 01:58:24,440
Speaker 4: other side. I'm going LSU minus a point and a half.

2352
01:58:24,680 --> 01:58:25,560
Speaker 4: Now it's time for this.

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01:58:25,680 --> 01:58:26,240
Speaker 5: Let's do it.

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01:58:28,440 --> 01:58:32,000
Speaker 1: This is the best play of the day.

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01:58:33,360 --> 01:58:34,680
Speaker 5: All right, Crack, what is it?

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01:58:34,720 --> 01:58:35,000
Speaker 3: Man?

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01:58:35,200 --> 01:58:37,280
Speaker 8: I'm gonna give you a week one teaser. I don't

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01:58:37,280 --> 01:58:39,280
Speaker 8: bet too many teasers throughout the year. I don't like

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01:58:39,320 --> 01:58:41,720
Speaker 8: laying the extra juice. But I think this is going

2360
01:58:41,760 --> 01:58:43,680
Speaker 8: to be mathematically a really good one. By the time

2361
01:58:43,720 --> 01:58:46,960
Speaker 8: these games kick off. I see Washington going up even more,

2362
01:58:47,040 --> 01:58:50,200
Speaker 8: maybe closing seven and a half. I like teasing Washington

2363
01:58:50,320 --> 01:58:53,240
Speaker 8: down through the key numbers of seven and three and

2364
01:58:53,400 --> 01:58:56,200
Speaker 8: teasing Green Bay up through the key numbers of three

2365
01:58:56,240 --> 01:58:58,320
Speaker 8: and seven to put them at seven and a half,

2366
01:58:58,360 --> 01:59:02,160
Speaker 8: so Washington minus half green Bay plus seven and a half.

2367
01:59:02,240 --> 01:59:04,320
Speaker 8: I look at the green Bay game to close a pick.

2368
01:59:04,160 --> 01:59:07,800
Speaker 4: Them awesome stuff, man, Well, Hey, fun hanging out with

2369
01:59:07,800 --> 01:59:10,960
Speaker 4: both of you guys today, now, man, good stuff for sure. Hey,

2370
01:59:10,960 --> 01:59:14,080
Speaker 4: everybody enjoyed the ball Once good games are on and

2371
01:59:14,240 --> 01:59:16,120
Speaker 4: Northwestern Rutgers are off your TV.