Speaker 1: Hello, Hey, can you hear me? Yeah, Taylor, you texted
Speaker 1: me and you said give me a ring. I need
Speaker 1: some help after visiting a certain store in Akihabara. For
Speaker 1: those who do not know, aki Abara is known as
Speaker 1: the Eccentric let's call it the Eccentric anime pop culture
Speaker 1: neighborhood of Tokyo, Japan. Are you currently in Tokyo, Japan?
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, I'm I'm staying in in Shinjugu right now.
Speaker 1: Oh cool, I'm also in Japan at this very moment.
Speaker 2: Oh cool, man, very nice.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Are you liking it?
Speaker 1: It's it's it's awesome. Tokyo is a great, great town.
Speaker 1: I'm doing a show here at the Tokyo Comedy Bar
Speaker 1: in a week. Come through. That'll be fun. I don't
Speaker 1: know if you're still.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 2: I leave on Wednesday, but I'm sure it will be
Speaker 2: a good time.
Speaker 1: That's I love. I love it's funny. There's something funny
Speaker 1: about just like I feel like I'm going door to
Speaker 1: door asking whoever is in Tokyo if they want to
Speaker 1: come to the show. Nah, it'll be a good time. Okay,
Speaker 1: what store did you go to?
Speaker 2: Dude? I don't know.
Speaker 4: I went to this one with like this green sign.
Speaker 4: It's like kind of off the main road, and they're
Speaker 4: like they like set you up, and they have these
Speaker 4: like anime girl like.
Speaker 2: Post like like face cards you can kind of like
Speaker 2: go in and like and so me and my buddy,
Speaker 2: you know, we took a flick in the front and
Speaker 2: we like walked in the store thinking it was like
Speaker 2: one of those uh, like you know, regular anime stories
Speaker 2: that sell like merch. Turns out it's like an eight
Speaker 2: story like sex store, okay, And there's just like salary
Speaker 2: men like everywhere, like on every floor, and everyone's super
Speaker 2: casual about it, you know. And so you're kind of
Speaker 2: like fucking around and they have this like gotcha machine
Speaker 2: in the front and so like obviously, you know, I
Speaker 2: turn it because I'm fucking wore for gotcha machines, okay,
Speaker 2: And turning out it was like a pocket pussy, right.
Speaker 5: Hold on?
Speaker 1: What lets listen, listen, listen. What what's the problem here?
Speaker 5: Man?
Speaker 1: What do you need help with? This is? This is
Speaker 1: all we're getting.
Speaker 2: We're getting there.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, we're getting there. We're getting Where was
Speaker 1: your was your corrupted at the eight? How old are you?
Speaker 2: I'm twenty three.
Speaker 1: You're twenty three, Okay, you know you know what a
Speaker 1: pocket pussy is.
Speaker 2: Of course, of course, Well okay, but okay, little egg.
Speaker 1: Have you ever It's okay if you have. You also
Speaker 1: have you ever used one of the homemade ones. I
Speaker 1: feel like I've talked about this at least three times
Speaker 1: on the podcast.
Speaker 2: No, bro, No, I haven't a dead ass, I haven't.
Speaker 2: I just really love pringles and stealing its stealing sponges and.
Speaker 1: Go ahead.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Uh so it's like shaped like an egg. It's like,
Speaker 2: you know, I'm on like a trip with like my
Speaker 2: a bunch of my buddies, and so you know, obviously
Speaker 2: I like I open it up, but I forguret what
Speaker 2: it is. I take one of my secret showers and
Speaker 2: I'm like, fuck, this is pretty good, you know. And
Speaker 2: so I went back the next day and I got
Speaker 2: another one, and like, like, I got an actual one,
Speaker 2: and like I've jerked like all my buddies, but I've
Speaker 2: jerked off like five times today, dude, Like these things
Speaker 2: are really good.
Speaker 1: So what's the problem.
Speaker 2: And I don't know the problem is I can't stop
Speaker 2: jerking it, and we has a rash, like a like irritation.
Speaker 1: Listen, you bought a product that was meant to to
Speaker 1: increase the enjoyment of your masturbation sessions. I think, why
Speaker 1: are you disappointed in yourself? There's a break.
Speaker 2: You're You're so You're My name's Taylor.
Speaker 1: Taylor, Taylor. There's an eight story building. There's multiple of them.
Speaker 1: There's building not eight stories maybe, but all over the
Speaker 1: world there are these shops that are dedicated to creating
Speaker 1: products to increase the people's sexual enjoyment of the time
Speaker 1: spent either by themselves or with others. You're You're not
Speaker 1: the only what what are you ashamed of? This is
Speaker 1: a classic thing, Like I just what are you ashamed of?
Speaker 1: You know? This is good. It's like if you told
Speaker 1: me it's like it's like it's like, no, no, It's
Speaker 1: like if you told me that you bought a DVD
Speaker 1: player and now you're you You've watched five movies on
Speaker 1: your new DVD player, I'd be like, what the fuck
Speaker 1: are you talking about?
Speaker 2: This is like, dude, the analogy that this is like, oh,
Speaker 2: I bought I'm buying some booze that I drink every day, like,
Speaker 2: and I love taking fourteen shots today and you're telling
Speaker 2: me Oh that's great, dude, keep doing it.
Speaker 1: Like, come on, now, this is different. It's a little different. Okay,
Speaker 1: so you did this all, by the way, Also, you're
Speaker 1: gonna get bored too, like what you jerked off five
Speaker 1: times with this thing?
Speaker 2: No, dude, that's I think I'm jerking off because I
Speaker 2: am bored. But I don't know why I'm bored because
Speaker 2: I'm in fucking Tokyo Oka.
Speaker 1: Well okay, actually, I actually, actually, now I think about it,
Speaker 1: the worst part of this is that, uh, how long
Speaker 1: I'm in a.
Speaker 2: Bored dude, I've been. I've been here fucking fucking about
Speaker 2: a week. I'm here till Wednesday, and I'm like, I
Speaker 2: just like because my buddies are all they all last,
Speaker 2: because like I'm staying longer, and I'm like, wow, I
Speaker 2: really just spent all the time fucking chirking my dick
Speaker 2: in my hotel.
Speaker 1: Look, oh, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen. Okay, it's
Speaker 1: your first time in Tokyo.
Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, it's my first times America, and I spent
Speaker 2: one of my days with the pocket.
Speaker 1: Is your fra Okay, since your is your first trip
Speaker 1: out of the side of America, oh yeah, and okay,
Speaker 1: the day that you spent with the pocket pussy. Uh
Speaker 1: what number day was that?
Speaker 5: Was that?
Speaker 1: Your fourth day? First day, second day? Third day?
Speaker 2: This is uh, this is day number eight?
Speaker 1: Oh, day number eight?
Speaker 2: Is it cool after? Is it? Is it cool after
Speaker 2: a certain point?
Speaker 5: Like, of course it's.
Speaker 1: Cool, It's totally. If you've been in Tokyo for eight days, okay,
Speaker 1: whatever you saw the stupid cherry blossoms, you walked around,
Speaker 1: you had some ramen, you had your little adventure, you
Speaker 1: you saw the sites, you took the pictures, you did
Speaker 1: the whole Yeah, spend the day jerking off. It's okay.
Speaker 1: It's fine if this if it was like your like
Speaker 1: second day or something, and you spent the whole day
Speaker 1: inside jerking off. Honestly, second day, if it was your
Speaker 1: second day, you spent the whole day inside jerking off,
Speaker 1: I'd be like, you got you got like what ten
Speaker 1: more days? You got your You know, it's okay, listen,
Speaker 1: eight days.
Speaker 2: What you're telling me what I want to but what
Speaker 2: I what I want to hear?
Speaker 1: You've been there for eight days already, have a break
Speaker 1: to jerk off? What if you know, neighbor, have you
Speaker 1: you've done all this stuff, efone else is there to do?
Speaker 5: Man?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess we're getting it done. I mean do Fuji.
Speaker 2: I guess I could go to Mount Fuji then jerk
Speaker 2: off some more.
Speaker 1: Go to go to Mount Fuji, go to climb to
Speaker 1: the top and jerk off there. That's just that's a
Speaker 1: real story. That's a real thing you can do.
Speaker 2: No, that's a good That might be a good one.
Speaker 2: All right, maybe that maybe I'll do that.
Speaker 5: Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're okay, man, don't worry about yourself.
Speaker 5: Appreciate it, bro.
Speaker 1: Honestly, it's honestly more of a waste of time that
Speaker 1: you called me then that you spent five hours drinking
Speaker 1: off with this thing.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, honestly, I was about to go to
Speaker 2: bed and I saw the phone ring, and I was like,
Speaker 2: no way, I've been tucking watching these guys clubs for years.
Speaker 2: I'm so happy you can help me with like a
Speaker 2: real thing that's actually happened. You know. I feel like
Speaker 2: a lot of people probably come on this and like
Speaker 2: make some ship up, but like, no, I jerked off
Speaker 2: five times today.
Speaker 1: You're saying it like like it's an incredible, rare, unique thing.
Speaker 1: That you couldn't making up.
Speaker 2: No, dude, I got to talk I got it. I
Speaker 2: got to talk to the therapy geto about the pocket
Speaker 2: pussy I bought in Tokyo.
Speaker 1: You bought this, you got this. You bought this pockat
Speaker 1: pussy from a gotcha pon machine?
Speaker 2: No, no, no, that was the first one. That's what
Speaker 2: introduced me to it, and then I got then I
Speaker 2: like bought a real one.
Speaker 5: Same store, good store.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's it's kind of a trip, like
Speaker 2: cause I feel like a lot of a a lot
Speaker 2: of Japan's kind of like super like, you know, super modest,
Speaker 2: maybe like more outside of Tokyo, but like you go
Speaker 2: into sex storms just like just fucking tons of dudes
Speaker 2: and suits right off of work, and they're all just
Speaker 2: like fucking looking at porn pocket pussies. It's super casual
Speaker 2: and like no one's even batting an eye at it,
Speaker 2: which is like, no, I've.
Speaker 1: Been to me, I've been. I've been to this story
Speaker 1: that you're talking about.
Speaker 2: There's one with a green sign, right, I don't. I
Speaker 2: think there's a couple of them though.
Speaker 1: That's the thing. There's a couple of them, so I
Speaker 1: don't know if I've been too this specific one. Did
Speaker 1: you see the okay, if you think that gotcha upon?
Speaker 1: Did you see the period blood panties gotch upon machine?
Speaker 2: No, but I saw panties gotcha gotcha machine?
Speaker 1: Did they all have the panties gotchash But there was
Speaker 1: one that is like that really that really freaked me out.
Speaker 1: Ill I don't know if it freaked me out because
Speaker 1: I saw it and I was like, there's no way
Speaker 1: that these are like like like the gut like it
Speaker 1: says like real, Yeah, there's there's no way. It's yeah,
Speaker 1: it's got to be like yeah, food coloring or whatever the.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't Yeah, I don't only buy that, I mean,
Speaker 2: but like also they're pretty They're obviously pretty good at
Speaker 2: like recreating things because they have like they have like
Speaker 2: all those like scent smells, but it's like like women's
Speaker 2: armpit and it's like, I don't know who really wants that,
Speaker 2: but I guess they know what a woman's armpit smells like,
Speaker 2: like at least a certain persons, and they start selling it.
Speaker 2: So I don't know, they're pretty good at creating this ship.
Speaker 1: I guess they wait, they created the artificial smell of
Speaker 1: a woman's armpit.
Speaker 2: Of a woman's arm pit. Yeah, they have like what
Speaker 2: was the product, Like, it's like a perfume. It's like
Speaker 2: a spray. They like have it at the sex store.
Speaker 1: There's a perfume that you can spray that smells like
Speaker 1: a woman's arm pit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you're I mean, if you're into that obviously interesting. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I got a lot of cool stuff here, man. You know,
Speaker 2: there's something for everyone.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: They also have sushi.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I went to a revolving sushi bar last night.
Speaker 2: That was pretty lit. That was my second time going.
Speaker 2: Very cool.
Speaker 1: What do you have planned for the rest of the trip?
Speaker 2: Uh? You I don't know. I'm kind of just gonna play.
Speaker 6: Yeah, well I'm gonna try not to as much because
Speaker 6: you know, I'm gonna look at it more now from
Speaker 6: the I only have three days left, so i'll probably
Speaker 6: uh you know, rip.
Speaker 2: The bullet train up the Fuji tomorrow hopefully something just
Speaker 2: so you know.
Speaker 1: Just before we leave, if you do, just I just
Speaker 1: want you to do this for me. If you do
Speaker 1: end up spending your next three days inside the hotel
Speaker 1: room jerking off, don't like if that's what you do, right,
Speaker 1: Like protect I don't think you should do that. I
Speaker 1: think you should go to Mount Fuji instead and like
Speaker 1: do the real stuff. But if that's what you end
Speaker 1: up doing, just embrace it. Don't fight it, because if
Speaker 1: you fight, because spend. Because here's the thing, it's how
Speaker 1: you look at it.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 1: If you said to me, I went to Japan and
Speaker 1: I bought this all great pocket pussy, and I had
Speaker 1: an amazing experience in Japan sitting in a in my
Speaker 1: hotel room jerking off uh for three days straight, and
Speaker 1: you really like sold it as like it was a
Speaker 1: great It's like it was like something like like it
Speaker 1: was like an Airbnb experience that you intended.
Speaker 2: That's also probably.
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you if yeah, it's authentic. I mean that's
Speaker 1: what the locals do, is they jerk off. That's the
Speaker 1: local experience anyway. Yeah, So if you did it and
Speaker 1: then you really sold it as like I went to Japan,
Speaker 1: I had the local experience of buying a pocket pussy
Speaker 1: from this place where where you said the Japanese salarymen are,
Speaker 1: this is where the locals go to buy their pocket pussy.
Speaker 1: I bought the local pocket pussy, and I and I
Speaker 1: and I did what as the locals do everywhere in
Speaker 1: the world, which is to sit at home and jerk off.
Speaker 1: And you were like you really kind of sold it
Speaker 1: as like I went and had an authentic experience. That's
Speaker 1: what you should do just if you cause So if
Speaker 1: you do it, do that and don't be like, oh
Speaker 1: I spent this, don't make it like it was a bummer,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like when you tell people
Speaker 1: about yeah, like really sell it, like like make them
Speaker 1: think that you are had a great time doing that
Speaker 1: and also have a good time. If that's what you're
Speaker 1: gonna do.
Speaker 2: Well, I think that's also just like good Yeah, No,
Speaker 2: that's just good advice in general, because I think I'm
Speaker 2: more of a pessimist and I think like reframing things
Speaker 2: is something I need to get better at, you know,
Speaker 2: just like general, like the other aspects of my life.
Speaker 2: But I like that. You know, I'm gonna I'm not
Speaker 2: saying I will, but if I do, I'm gonna be
Speaker 2: very happy that I jerked off some more in Japan,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you do it, just you know, embrace it,
Speaker 1: all right, Taylor, Yeah, yeah, is there anything else you
Speaker 1: want to say? It to the people of the computer
Speaker 1: before we go.
Speaker 2: You know, I guess don't. Don't be ashamed of touching
Speaker 2: your guys.
Speaker 1: But you didn't really, you just you touched it with
Speaker 1: the pocket pust You don't even tell.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I don't be afraid of using a box pusy.
Speaker 2: I guess I don't know. They're pretty good. Go try
Speaker 2: one fucking great, great, great experience. Okay, all right, dude,
Speaker 2: thank you, appreciate you, all.
Speaker 1: Right, see you later. Man Sionaro, he's out man, see
Speaker 1: yea Sionara bro Cyonara Broski. I really do believe that,
Speaker 1: you know, if you want to have a people get
Speaker 1: so hung up about like having like local experiences, and like,
Speaker 1: you know, they're like, oh, I don't want to do
Speaker 1: the touristy thing when I go to the place, right,
Speaker 1: If you really, when you're traveling and any for Europe
Speaker 1: or Asia or America, if you really want to have
Speaker 1: the local experience and you don't want to do the
Speaker 1: touristy stuff, just go hall do what this guy did.
Speaker 1: Go to the gas station, get a snack, and then
Speaker 1: go home and jerkle. That's what most people are doing
Speaker 1: in most places. So if you want to have a
Speaker 1: local experience, that's what you should do.
Speaker 5: Hello. Hello, is this Lyle?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Who is this?
Speaker 5: Fuck? What the fuck are you live?
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm I'm live enough. What's your name?
Speaker 5: My name's Eric? Eric?
Speaker 1: Well? Well, well Eric, Eric, Eric like Eric Adams, the
Speaker 1: mayor of New York, or he was the mayor of
Speaker 1: New York. Now he's not.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Eric Cartman, Eric Cartman, popular character from the beloved South
Speaker 1: Park cartoon Eric Astro. That's the name of a guy
Speaker 1: I went to high school with. Old friend of mine.
Speaker 1: Shout out Eric, if you're listening, let's keep going. Eric
Speaker 1: from that seventies show, Eric, the architect of Flatbush Zombies.
Speaker 1: He was on the show a few years ago. Shout out, Eric, Uh,
Speaker 1: you want to throw one in there? Throw one in there?
Speaker 1: Do it?
Speaker 5: I think you got them all.
Speaker 1: No, throw one in there. Come on, don't be shy.
Speaker 1: Anyone doesn't matter. Their name, doesn't even have to be Eric.
Speaker 1: Just to throw anyone in there. Name anyone, Just name someone.
Speaker 1: Come on, it's easy.
Speaker 5: I'm kind of nervous. I'm drawing a blank.
Speaker 1: Don't come on, anyone, anyone, there's no wrong answers. Name
Speaker 1: you can name someone that doesn't exist. How about this
Speaker 1: all right, I'll do too. All right, I'll do two more.
Speaker 1: I'll do two more. Bill Clinton, you don't have anyone sure,
Speaker 1: everything counts, no rules. Who cares about anything?
Speaker 5: Myself?
Speaker 1: Yes, yes you can, Yes, you absolutely can. Perfect all
Speaker 1: rhad perfect.
Speaker 5: All right.
Speaker 1: You're Eric yourself, You're a person, You're alive.
Speaker 5: Eric.
Speaker 1: What did you want to call me today?
Speaker 5: Uh? I guess I've been listening to your show for
Speaker 5: a while, like a few years. I've always wanted a call.
Speaker 5: But I don't know. I guess I've just I never
Speaker 5: really thought like i'd be one of those people that
Speaker 5: does the thing, you know, I guess, Okay, But here
Speaker 5: I am.
Speaker 1: Okay. What's who are you?
Speaker 5: Eric?
Speaker 1: What's your life like?
Speaker 5: My life's kind of weird, I guess, uh weird. Well,
Speaker 5: I guess I've kind of been going on somewhat of
Speaker 5: a roller coaster of relationships the past couple of years.
Speaker 5: Been kind of a wild ride. Not gonna lie.
Speaker 1: Hmmmmm, one single relationship or these or did you say
Speaker 1: multiple relationships?
Speaker 5: More than one? I guess I last year got out
Speaker 5: of a seven year relationship that was kind of that
Speaker 5: was kind of rough, But I guess I kind of
Speaker 5: knew deep down that you know, it wasn't really gonna
Speaker 5: be like for the long haul, and like after that
Speaker 5: long it's kind of like, you know, you got to
Speaker 5: make a decision. So I guess the decision was made.
Speaker 1: And what led you to the decision that you made.
Speaker 5: I guess we like, I guess he was a really
Speaker 5: great guy, but it just kind of ended up being
Speaker 5: like we were never really super intimate. And like I said,
Speaker 5: he was a really great guy, but I guess I
Speaker 5: needed something more. We ended up opening up our relationship
Speaker 5: and then I met someone else, or I guess we did.
Speaker 5: We both did. And yeah, this is why I say,
Speaker 5: kind of a crazy roller coaster because things developed and
Speaker 5: I guess we ended up breaking up and then I
Speaker 5: ended up getting with the person.
Speaker 1: So you got the you got the third boyfriend in
Speaker 1: the divorce.
Speaker 5: I mean, I guess this person wasn't really the third
Speaker 5: boyfriend because it was actually a couple.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, this You know what Sometimes people show up
Speaker 1: here and they're like, oh, life's been a roller coaster
Speaker 1: and whatnot. But I believe you that things have been
Speaker 1: a roller coaster. This is fascinating. Okay, So you and
Speaker 1: your boyfriend opened up the relationship and you guys get
Speaker 1: with a couple.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, we we suked up with a couple.
Speaker 1: You hooked up with a couple. But then you're and
Speaker 1: then how okay, so how tell me about how it
Speaker 1: went from you and your boyfriend like basically swinging with
Speaker 1: this couple too. Then you are you? So are you
Speaker 1: walking away with the couple? Are you in a polycule
Speaker 1: now or are you just with one of the people?
Speaker 5: So not not a polycule. But I guess I became
Speaker 5: their third Oh yeah.
Speaker 1: Okay, so this is more like you guys became you
Speaker 1: guys were swinging, so you became a quad and then
Speaker 1: your boyfriend left and now it's a tricycle.
Speaker 5: No that that that's not exactly the sequence of events.
Speaker 1: Okay, I.
Speaker 5: Guess we we broke up. It was a really kind
Speaker 5: of messy situation, but actually ended up happening. Was one
Speaker 5: of the guys in the couple. Uh I guess my
Speaker 5: my my ex like kind of started like falling for
Speaker 5: like I could like tell like that, like when we
Speaker 5: went out and did stuff that should hang out. My
Speaker 5: brother's getting home, I'm gonna go to my car.
Speaker 1: Uh well a second, yeah, this is a good get
Speaker 1: your car to talk about situation, right, So he ended
Speaker 1: up like, kind, I've.
Speaker 5: Talked to a lot of people about this ship like
Speaker 5: in my life, and yeah, it's pretty it's a pretty
Speaker 5: interesting situation to stay the least. But so yeah, I
Speaker 5: my ex ended up kind of falling in love with
Speaker 5: this guy. And I could tell, like he wouldn't say
Speaker 5: so much, but I could tell, like we would go
Speaker 5: out and we'd do stuff, like we went to this
Speaker 5: kind of like an arcade. It's called Round One. They
Speaker 5: have a bunch of crane machines.
Speaker 1: Huh, I said, I know, Round one. Isn't that a jepands?
Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, it's fucking cute as shit. It's like they
Speaker 5: got crane machines with like all these like super cute plushies.
Speaker 1: Do they have them in those things?
Speaker 5: Yeah? I mean I'm in America too, Like I live
Speaker 5: in Uh. I don't know how much I should fucking
Speaker 5: reveal about myself, but uh I I live in one
Speaker 5: of the safety states. Yeah. Anyways, uh so, uh like
Speaker 5: the guy, like the guy, the one of the guys
Speaker 5: in the couple. He won me a like stuffed animal
Speaker 5: and one of the crane machines and my ex like
Speaker 5: got kind of jealous and like snatched it from me,
Speaker 5: like we took a picture and like he held the
Speaker 5: plushy in the picture. H stuff like that. Like, but
Speaker 5: the thing that really kind of was like the nail
Speaker 5: in the coffin was eventually and like we're all bears,
Speaker 5: so like, you know, we snore and fucking have seatpat
Speaker 5: machines or I guess one of us.
Speaker 1: Did Wait, you all have machines?
Speaker 5: No, no, no, I was gonna say, what, we all snore,
Speaker 5: but like one of us has a seat pat machine. Yeah,
Speaker 5: the I guess the guy in question has a seat
Speaker 5: pat machine. But anyways, uh, like so like my partner,
Speaker 5: my ex, he did not have a seatpat machine. He
Speaker 5: would snore and like he'd sometimes talk in his sleep,
Speaker 5: and he started saying this guy's name in his sleep,
Speaker 5: and it kind of got to the point where he
Speaker 5: was saying it like every night, and like I couldn't
Speaker 5: sleep in the same bed as him, and he would
Speaker 5: deny it. And it's really heartbreaking because like you know,
Speaker 5: like I could tell he kind of didn't want to
Speaker 5: like like he still like wanted to be with me,
Speaker 5: like at least that's what he was saying I kind
Speaker 5: of found out towards the end of that relationship that
Speaker 5: there was a lot of stuff that he, like he
Speaker 5: would say, but I wouldn't really know if it was
Speaker 5: true or not, you know, like our whole intimacy issue thing.
Speaker 5: Like I think he just didn't really like I mean,
Speaker 5: I know there's people out there like and like, I guess,
Speaker 5: excuse me if I get vulgar, but you know, like
Speaker 5: there's people out there that like have different preferences, like
Speaker 5: I know, fucking like DJ Khali doesn't eat pussy, you know,
Speaker 5: so it's like there's like, you know, different shit out there.
Speaker 5: But like that that was the main problem for me
Speaker 5: because it didn't ever really seem like he was like
Speaker 5: into that at least like doing it to me, you know.
Speaker 5: So yeah, like there was a lot of stuff about
Speaker 5: that relationship that I feel like it was just kind
Speaker 5: of like brushed under the rug because like he wanted
Speaker 5: to be like he like towards the end, we ended
Speaker 5: up getting a dog, and like again, we were together
Speaker 5: for like seven fucking years, so like those those were
Speaker 5: I guess some of the last attempts to kind of
Speaker 5: like keep us, you know together, and that shit was
Speaker 5: really heartbreaking too, Like I fucking missed that dog man,
Speaker 5: like fuck. But anyways, I guess back to like what
Speaker 5: I was saying, So when that ended up happening, we
Speaker 5: broke up, Like when the sleep talking thing ended up happening,
Speaker 5: and he was trying to get a sea pat machine
Speaker 5: because that would have helped with that. He would have
Speaker 5: like you know, probably not talked as much into sleep,
Speaker 5: you know, but that wouldn't have solved the problem, you know,
Speaker 5: that wouldn't have Like I still kind of knew what
Speaker 5: I knew, and I kind of had to like figure
Speaker 5: out what I wanted to do. So we ended up
Speaker 5: breaking up. And I did end up getting with this couple,
Speaker 5: and things were great at first. They were also so open.
Speaker 5: We started out kind of I guess, like you know,
Speaker 5: like being together, but like also like you know, like
Speaker 5: having other people come in. And I guess like I
Speaker 5: was only really used to like you know, close relationship
Speaker 5: like you know, like kind of like intimate type situations,
Speaker 5: and like, so we dated a total of six months.
Speaker 5: We did break up. We actually broke up a week ago.
Speaker 5: But yeah, like it kind of got overwhelming for me,
Speaker 5: Like it got to the point where, like you know,
Speaker 5: not all the people that we would have over, like
Speaker 5: you know, it's like there's three of us, so it's
Speaker 5: like it's hard to find somebody that's like good for
Speaker 5: like all three of us. I guess in the couple,
Speaker 5: one of the one of the guys he likes kind
Speaker 5: of like twinks and like me and the other guy
Speaker 5: like we like bears. So there's like some conflict of
Speaker 5: interest there, you know, like we're not always gonna like
Speaker 5: find the right peace, you know. But yeah, it got
Speaker 5: to the point where I was kind of like, I
Speaker 5: guess I was like, you know, like I kind of
Speaker 5: just want to spend time with like you guys, you know,
Speaker 5: like I don't really want to like invite you know,
Speaker 5: some fucking person over to do stuff with their hang
Speaker 5: out with and then do stuff with or whatever.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 5: Like they were respecting it at first, like they're like, okay,
Speaker 5: like we'll take some time. There was one thing that
Speaker 5: really fucked shuit up for me, though. I kind of
Speaker 5: asked a question that I probably should not have asked because,
Speaker 5: like I said, I was, I was really getting in
Speaker 5: my feels for these guys, and I guess I still
Speaker 5: kind of am. We're broken up, but I actually just
Speaker 5: got back from their place to my brother's apartment where
Speaker 5: I'm currently staying.
Speaker 1: Wait, you're broken up, but he just got back from there.
Speaker 1: I have so many questions for you about the situation.
Speaker 1: You're broken up, but you just got back from their place.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, it's not healthy.
Speaker 1: So did you leave something there or what were you doing?
Speaker 5: I was, I was seeing them, We were seeing each other.
Speaker 5: There's there's still feelings there. We still care about each other,
Speaker 5: and we still you.
Speaker 1: Guys, ever do like a human centipede type of thing.
Speaker 5: We've We've done some stuff. Honestly, they're the ones kind
Speaker 5: of exposing me to this because like this was new
Speaker 5: to me. Kind of that's, you know, why things kind
Speaker 5: of didn't work out or I don't know, I don't
Speaker 5: know if I kind of hope, like I I guess,
Speaker 5: like we lived together for six months, Like I lived
Speaker 5: in their house and they were always around, and I
Speaker 5: mean it's like I after we broke up, like I
Speaker 5: kind of like put all the cards on the table,
Speaker 5: I was just like fuck, like you know, like I
Speaker 5: really want to get back together. Like I miss you guys.
Speaker 5: I miss just being able to talk to you guys,
Speaker 5: about anything and everything. But yeah, like so we're still
Speaker 5: seeing each other, but yeah, we broke up. And the
Speaker 5: reason we broke up is because, like I said, I
Speaker 5: ended up asking this question that was really fucking stupid
Speaker 5: of me, because I mean, when we met, we were open.
Speaker 5: Yeah I'm about to say, like when we met, we
Speaker 5: were open, Like you know, I was open with my
Speaker 5: ex and they were open, and like when we got together,
Speaker 5: we were open. In the middle of the relationship, I
Speaker 5: got the fucking inkling that asked this question that if
Speaker 5: it came between being open and being with me, which
Speaker 5: one would they pick? And they kind of told me
Speaker 5: in not so many words, that they would pick being open.
Speaker 1: Okay, why is it so horrible that you asked that question?
Speaker 1: You kind of you basically hinted at like closing the
Speaker 1: open relationship.
Speaker 5: I yeah, I'm realizing that now. I never really like
Speaker 5: because like I'm a very agreeable guy, Like I don't
Speaker 5: want to make it anybuddy do anything they don't want
Speaker 5: to do. I don't want to like force like That's
Speaker 5: why I guess I kind of asked it like that,
Speaker 5: you know, because it was just kind of testing the waters,
Speaker 5: you know, I kind of just wanted them to say
Speaker 5: they would pick me, and like I kind of knew,
Speaker 5: you know, but like it was mostly a thing of
Speaker 5: just like I just wanted to feel like I just
Speaker 5: wanted to know my place in this fucking situation.
Speaker 1: You know you were you were kind of asking a
Speaker 1: question you knew the answer to.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I kind of did know the answer to it.
Speaker 5: I mean, we had been doing stuff. You know. They
Speaker 5: they have like a they have like a fucking network
Speaker 5: of like friends, you know that they know in that way.
Speaker 5: I don't. Like That's something I've been struggling with, Like
Speaker 5: I've been trying, especially now that I'm single too, like
Speaker 5: you know, like I'm I'm on the fucking apps, like
Speaker 5: I'm on fucking I know, that's probably different frustraight people.
Speaker 1: Like the way that you said, uh you said, it's
Speaker 1: a network.
Speaker 5: It is. It is like they have friends. We even
Speaker 5: had mutual friends, like when I I had met people
Speaker 5: when I was single that they like that they are
Speaker 5: now friends with and that they like. It isn't that.
Speaker 5: I mean, it's like the gay communities and network of people.
Speaker 5: I mean, it's like you know, like you know, but
Speaker 5: so yeah, I asked that question and that was the
Speaker 5: start of like all of the problems after that question.
Speaker 5: I guess it kind of I guess they kind of
Speaker 5: felt like it fell on them to kind of prove
Speaker 5: to me that like I am important, you know, and
Speaker 5: I would just kind of keep like not like needing more,
Speaker 5: but like kind of like I would express that it
Speaker 5: would make me more comfortable, you know, like if we
Speaker 5: like kind of like didn't like do stuff with other people.
Speaker 5: But like all of these friends that they had were
Speaker 5: like you know, like people that you know, they hooked
Speaker 5: up with, so like we would like in order for
Speaker 5: us to hang out with people, like it was like
Speaker 5: the door was always kind of open, and they didn't
Speaker 5: want to like tell these people either, you know that
Speaker 5: Like I didn't want to, Like it was like nobody
Speaker 5: wants like, you know, any anyone's feelings to get hurt
Speaker 5: or upset or whatever the fuck. So it just kind
Speaker 5: of ended up being this like disaster of like these
Speaker 5: situations where like things would kind of like sort of
Speaker 5: seem to start happening and then like I would kind
Speaker 5: of shut down, like because I knew it was what
Speaker 5: they wanted, but I didn't really want to do that.
Speaker 5: I just wanted to do stuff with them, you know,
Speaker 5: and like I said, it's just what I'm used to,
Speaker 5: Like I just got to have of a fucking seven
Speaker 5: year close relationship, you know. And I mean, I guess
Speaker 5: I won't lie. Like it was open, Like there was
Speaker 5: a time in the beginning kind of when it was open,
Speaker 5: because we've always had those intimacy issues me like X,
Speaker 5: But like there was a time in the beginning where
Speaker 5: it was open, and then there was a time at
Speaker 5: the end where it was open. And nothing really happened
Speaker 5: in the beginning part, but like at the end part,
Speaker 5: that was when we started, like when I started kind
Speaker 5: of like you know, doing stuff and making moves. But anyway,
Speaker 5: so all that shit happened. It kind of just kept
Speaker 5: kept getting worse, like we kept fighting, and then like
Speaker 5: last Saturday, I guess it was. It was started on
Speaker 5: like I think it was like Thursday. We got into
Speaker 5: an argument about it. We were like talking about closing it.
Speaker 5: I knew that the time was coming or sorry, opening it.
Speaker 5: I knew that the time was coming where we were
Speaker 5: going to open it because we kind of temporarily closed it,
Speaker 5: and so like I was kind of like throwing the towel.
Speaker 5: I very much had the attitude of kind of like
Speaker 5: who gives a shit, you know, like they just kind
Speaker 5: of like want this and like you know it's gonna
Speaker 5: happen like regardless. And like I think that that attitude
Speaker 5: kind of like permeated everything, and like you know, like
Speaker 5: it started getting a point where they're getting angry. And so, yeah,
Speaker 5: we had a fight on Thursday last week, and then
Speaker 5: Saturday came around and there's like an event that we
Speaker 5: go to at this club. It's like a gear event,
Speaker 5: so you know, people were like, you know, harnesses and
Speaker 5: you know, like you know, the gear and shit, and
Speaker 5: like I guess it has stems. And so the theme
Speaker 5: for last week it was construction workers. And so like
Speaker 5: when I got home from work, I noticed like that
Speaker 5: they like had both bought vests like to go out.
Speaker 5: They hadn't bought me one, So that already was kind
Speaker 5: of like what's going on.
Speaker 1: Oh no, they didn't buy you a They were going
Speaker 1: to the they were going to the swingers event without you.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean well they they had told me, like
Speaker 5: I guess, so the game Poco Pia had just come out,
Speaker 5: and they're like, oh, you probably like you just got
Speaker 5: that game. You probably want to play that or whatever, and.
Speaker 1: But that they were like, you gotta you should stay
Speaker 1: home and play the new video game you bought.
Speaker 5: Yeah, goddamn, well it's I mean, I guess in their defense,
Speaker 5: like whenever we went out, you know, like stuff would
Speaker 5: happen and like I would just kind of like, you know,
Speaker 5: get a little bummed because like I, you know, like
Speaker 5: they we meet somebody and then like like I'm honestly
Speaker 5: new to going out to clubs, like I never did
Speaker 5: that in my past relationship, and like I kind of
Speaker 5: like was hoping that they would kind of like hold
Speaker 5: my hand a little bit through the process. I don't know,
Speaker 5: like I kept telling them I thought things would be different,
Speaker 5: you know, like I thought when we went out that
Speaker 5: like you know, like if we were gonna like flirt
Speaker 5: or you know, talk to people, that we would do
Speaker 5: it together. That like I don't know, like it just
Speaker 5: got to the point where like like we would talk
Speaker 5: to people and like you know, like they would be
Speaker 5: like super into the conversation and like I would just
Speaker 5: kind of feel like a wallflower. I guess. So, like,
Speaker 5: but yeah, that was I guess the reason for that.
Speaker 5: I guess, like right now, we're kind of trying to
Speaker 5: like see if like we can like get back to
Speaker 5: that point. But like this past week, they've been hooking
Speaker 5: up with people. I've been hooking up with people, and
Speaker 5: they don't want to talk to me about it, I
Speaker 5: guess because it's just think I'm too sensitive about it.
Speaker 5: Like I tell them, like, you know, I'll talk about
Speaker 5: it with you guys. I'm used to talking about everything
Speaker 5: with you guys, you know, but like they don't want
Speaker 5: to talk to me about it, and so I don't
Speaker 5: want it to be one side it. So I'm just like, Okay,
Speaker 5: I guess we're not talking about these things.
Speaker 1: But so so, so are you are you like equally
Speaker 1: in love with both of these guys or are you like,
Speaker 1: is you like one over the other or they kind
Speaker 1: of function as a unit to you.
Speaker 5: So I mean I can say that I do love
Speaker 5: both of them, like we have. I mean, at least
Speaker 5: they they have sex with me, like both of them,
Speaker 5: And in the in the last six months, like like
Speaker 5: we would have sex like every fucking night, you know,
Speaker 5: like it was fucking beautiful, Like I was really happy.
Speaker 5: I Mean, there were things that obviously were bothering me,
Speaker 5: but like I always would tell myself, like the pros
Speaker 5: that way to comms, you know, because like that's something
Speaker 5: that I wasn't getting in my last relationship like at all,
Speaker 5: you know, So I don't know, I kind of justified
Speaker 5: it in my head that way, but like I said,
Speaker 5: things just kind of got to the point where it
Speaker 5: was just like you know, and so yeah, I guess,
Speaker 5: like going back to that the argument, like, yeah, I mean,
Speaker 5: I guess there's not really much more to say about that.
Speaker 5: I don't I don't think that I don't know if
Speaker 5: they're ever gonna listen to this. I don't want to,
Speaker 5: like I don't want to should talk to them too
Speaker 5: much because I still love them and I think they
Speaker 5: still love me. I mean they said that, but I
Speaker 5: don't know. But yeah, basically something horrible like I said something,
Speaker 5: I said something disrespectful and because they were basically throwing
Speaker 5: me out, they were.
Speaker 1: Like what did you What disrespectful thing did you say?
Speaker 5: I don't want to say to be honest, because it
Speaker 5: like I don't like it really hurt the one of
Speaker 5: the guys and like it's not really important, Like it
Speaker 5: was something that I said that was just mean because
Speaker 5: like he was basically screaming at me at that point,
Speaker 5: like he was like, if you're not happy, then like
Speaker 5: get your ship and leave. And I just, you know,
Speaker 5: I said something disrespectful.
Speaker 1: So Eric, so, so where are you at now? Are
Speaker 1: you single? Are you in a different pollocule? Where are
Speaker 1: you at now?
Speaker 5: I mean it's I'm single. I guess they're they're still together,
Speaker 5: but I guess they're open. I think that they told
Speaker 5: me yesterday when I came over that they still want
Speaker 5: things to work with us. So I mean that made
Speaker 5: me happy, you.
Speaker 1: Know, So what do you wait?
Speaker 5: So Eric?
Speaker 1: So, so what do you what do you want? Like
Speaker 1: do you want to be and do you want like
Speaker 1: a forever boyfriend type of deal? Do you want to be?
Speaker 1: In a pollocule? Like what do you what do you want?
Speaker 5: Man? I don't fucking know, Like I don't know what
Speaker 5: I'm doing here in life, Like I'm just fucking here,
Speaker 5: Like I I want to have what we had, like
Speaker 5: it was beautiful, Like I just when we broke up,
Speaker 5: like I realized, like I don't give a shit like
Speaker 5: about that, you know, like that they want to hook
Speaker 5: up with other people, like as long as I can
Speaker 5: still have like what we had, like I don't care
Speaker 5: at least for right now.
Speaker 1: Do you feel like that? But do you feel like,
Speaker 1: I mean, these guys they went to a construction worker
Speaker 1: party and and threw a Pokemon game at you and said,
Speaker 1: go play with that. You know, do you feel like
Speaker 1: they they fuck with you in the way that you
Speaker 1: fuck with them, because that's important.
Speaker 5: I don't know. I mean I think so, like I
Speaker 5: lived with them for six months, Like they gave me
Speaker 5: a key to their house. Like I slept in their
Speaker 5: bed every single night. You know, we had sex every
Speaker 5: single night. I don't fucking know, like I've never had
Speaker 5: that before, you know, Like I don't know, Like I
Speaker 5: just I miss it, you know, I miss like talking
Speaker 5: to them about like everything, like you know, my fears,
Speaker 5: my goals, my dreams, Like I just I fuck, I'm
Speaker 5: I'm fucking like just yearning for that again. Like I
Speaker 5: don't know, I don't know what I want, you know,
Speaker 5: Like obviously I'm very used to something different, you know.
Speaker 1: Okay, let me ask you, let me ask him. And
Speaker 1: maybe I'm being assumptive here, but and actually you can
Speaker 1: educate me if about this. It seems to me that
Speaker 1: like what is it true that in the gay community,
Speaker 1: all right, Like you're a bear, right, Like are there not?
Speaker 1: Are there not? Like like an infinite number of like
Speaker 1: other guys out there that are like a swipe away
Speaker 1: that you could go and connect with.
Speaker 5: That's what I've That's what I've been doing. But like
Speaker 5: I'm i still fucking miss them, Like there's like that.
Speaker 5: That's what I told them too through textas past week,
Speaker 5: Like you know, like I've been trying to distract myself
Speaker 5: and like it feels good in the moment, but like
Speaker 5: after I'm like back in my feelings again.
Speaker 1: You know, hmm, you haven't developed feelings for anyone else
Speaker 1: that you've met on any of the h your your event,
Speaker 1: your grinder, vet life.
Speaker 5: It's only been a week, give it more?
Speaker 1: How many? How many? How many of these guys in
Speaker 1: a week? How many more dudes in a week?
Speaker 5: I mean I've I've met like three or four people,
Speaker 5: dude in one week. I'm fucking hurting, man.
Speaker 1: I'm no, no, no, no, I'm not saying that. No no, I'm
Speaker 1: not saying that like it's a bad thing. I'm saying
Speaker 1: that and like I'm amazed by that way. That's pretty good.
Speaker 1: That's pretty good. Four dudes in one week. Dude, you know.
Speaker 5: Is very sexually repressed.
Speaker 1: That that's exciting, that's very exciting. Bro give it some time.
Speaker 1: Give it some time, man. I mean if you're meaning four,
Speaker 1: if you're able to get four dates a week, you know,
Speaker 1: like of course, but you know what, listen, sex dates, whatever,
Speaker 1: you're you're meeting new people. You're meeting new people. Let's
Speaker 1: call it that. We can say that with confidence. You're
Speaker 1: meeting new people. Okay, whether you're meeting them over dinner
Speaker 1: or over you know, them blowing you, it's it's you're
Speaker 1: meeting them. That could be the date, you know, that's okay,
Speaker 1: But you're still you're meeting all these new people. And
Speaker 1: I think that over time you kind of probably have
Speaker 1: tricked yourself into believing that this is the only connection
Speaker 1: that you will have for a long time. But it
Speaker 1: sounds to me like you're having no problem putting yourself
Speaker 1: out there meeting new people. And so I'm sure that
Speaker 1: by natural way of you living your life, you will
Speaker 1: find new connections. It might take a very long time,
Speaker 1: and it might still it'll still be difficult, but I
Speaker 1: believe that you have no problem putting yourself out there
Speaker 1: and so you should totally have the faith that you
Speaker 1: will find new connections out in the world and not.
Speaker 1: And you know, you don't want to settle for these guys.
Speaker 1: And I listen, these guys. I don't know, man, I
Speaker 1: don't know anything about these guys. I've never met him.
Speaker 1: I'm only know what you but it sounds like they're
Speaker 1: not you know, they they really didn't choose you. You know,
Speaker 1: they really didn't choose you. And you don't want to
Speaker 1: be with people who aren't choosing.
Speaker 5: You, you know, Yeah, I mean I feel like they did,
Speaker 5: but in their own way. Like it's just like I
Speaker 5: don't know, like I get what you're saying. I do
Speaker 5: like and like, you know, but it's like it's like
Speaker 5: one of those things where it's like I don't like
Speaker 5: I could hold out for like I guess like something
Speaker 5: like like perfect perfect, but like I like, this was
Speaker 5: hold on what do you mean?
Speaker 1: But no, it wasn't What do you mean perfect?
Speaker 5: I mean it was perfect.
Speaker 1: They did, but dude, they they they but it's not perfect.
Speaker 1: They wanted an open thing and you did not. That's
Speaker 1: a very It's not like, dude, it's not like it's
Speaker 1: not like it's like they're snoring and you're like, well,
Speaker 1: it's like, well it's not perfect, you know, but it's
Speaker 1: like this is that's a big thing, whether or not
Speaker 1: they want to not only not only that, but also
Speaker 1: the fact that they they didn't even want you to
Speaker 1: like really be a part of there, because also like
Speaker 1: they're a couple right like there, they seem to be
Speaker 1: a unit of each other. All right, who knows what's
Speaker 1: going on in their dynamic, but they seemed like they
Speaker 1: they weren't keen to add you. And I'm sorry for
Speaker 1: the tough you know love here, but listen, you uh,
Speaker 1: they didn't they didn't want to add you into the couple.
Speaker 1: You were a member of the swing.
Speaker 5: It was like a vote kind of and like it
Speaker 5: was two against one. You know, I was the boyfriend.
Speaker 5: I mean, they were the two. I was the one.
Speaker 5: I was the one.
Speaker 1: So they did so listen, man, they they didn't let
Speaker 1: you join their polycule. And it's listen, here's the thing
Speaker 1: least I'm gonna start. I'm gonna dude, But dude, these
Speaker 1: guys and look you you know these guys whatever, you've
Speaker 1: been in the bed with them and had the feelings
Speaker 1: and been there. But like, dude, these two guys, like
Speaker 1: they have their couple things going on, right, and they
Speaker 1: have their adventures where they go to the construction worker
Speaker 1: sex party ship, right, and and you you it sounds
Speaker 1: a little like you were, you know, part of their
Speaker 1: adventure and part of their thing. But you're not. You're
Speaker 1: not in the main club. And it might not and
Speaker 1: listen and listen, you're not but you're not the main club.
Speaker 1: But it's not. It's just evithing. You shouldn't take it
Speaker 1: as a personal reflection of who you are, right, You're
Speaker 1: just not in the main club. And so there might
Speaker 1: not be enough room in the main club. It might
Speaker 1: there might only in most of these fucking things, like
Speaker 1: there's only room for two in the club. And so
Speaker 1: for them it might be like, listen, we want to
Speaker 1: be in a couple like we're we love we we
Speaker 1: have enough bandwidth for each other. And then perifer people
Speaker 1: on the peripheral to be in the club. It sounds
Speaker 1: like you want it to be in like a whole
Speaker 1: ass polecule. But they were kind of keeping you on
Speaker 1: the erpherl and you know that that is what it is,
Speaker 1: what it is, but like it just sounds like they
Speaker 1: don't have the bandwidth, and like you could sit there
Speaker 1: and like be on the peripheral of their club. But
Speaker 1: it's just not it's this, this situation is just not
Speaker 1: working for you, man, and you know it's not working
Speaker 1: for you. So just like whatever, like you can. You
Speaker 1: can keep fucking these guys if you want, that's fine,
Speaker 1: but like, keep fucking these guys. But like, but the
Speaker 1: things are open, man, So like keep sucking these guys,
Speaker 1: but stay on grinders, stay on field, stay on all
Speaker 1: the apps, and like keep meeting people. Keep putting yourself
Speaker 1: out there. And who fucking you don't know you have
Speaker 1: met all the all the all the gay guys in
Speaker 1: whatever fucking state you live in. Yeah, so you don't know.
Speaker 1: You don't know what the fuck is out there. So listen, man,
Speaker 1: just keep putting yourself out there. If you really want
Speaker 1: to keep sucking these guys, then then fuck these guys
Speaker 1: as much as you want. Who cares? And uh, But
Speaker 1: in the meantime, keep put yourself out there and try
Speaker 1: to make yourself emotionally available to you know, other people
Speaker 1: that may or may not come into your orbit, you know,
Speaker 1: but like don't but don't don't. But these guys, but like,
Speaker 1: don't fucking sit here and like wait for these dudes
Speaker 1: who didn't like who who who you know didn't want
Speaker 1: you to come with them to the to the orgy.
Speaker 1: You know, that's what you want, someone who wants you.
Speaker 1: You want someone who wants you with them at the orgy.
Speaker 7: Okay, So it's all so if you really want things
Speaker 7: had gone, like if you like, the thing is Like
Speaker 7: what I was trying to explain was that like I'm
Speaker 7: getting used to this new kind of like like living
Speaker 7: like this, you know, like it's something I'm like, I'm
Speaker 7: only used to this context being single, you know, Like
Speaker 7: I'm only used to like random random people hooking up,
Speaker 7: like being like a single person. I wasn't used to
Speaker 7: it in a relationship when I have feelings for somebody,
Speaker 7: and it's something that I kind of like trying to adjust.
Speaker 7: I do want to keep an open mind. I I
Speaker 7: guess it scares me that they might be wanting to
Speaker 7: keep an open mind because like I do love them,
Speaker 7: you know, but I get what you're saying. I do,
Speaker 7: And like I've talked to this, like to like everybody
Speaker 7: like in my direct life, and like they've told me
Speaker 7: the same thing. You know, they've told me like like
Speaker 7: it's different, you know, like it's it's different, Like it's awkward.
Speaker 7: It was awkward telling people like you know, like I
Speaker 7: have two boyfriends.
Speaker 1: Yeah like that. Yeah, yeah, but that's not that's not
Speaker 1: what we're talking. We're not talking. But that's not what
Speaker 1: we're talking about. You know, that's not where they were.
Speaker 1: We're talking. We're not talking about how weird. We're not
Speaker 1: talking about like the weirdness or not of the polycule.
Speaker 1: We're just talking about like kind of normal relationship dynamics
Speaker 1: in the context of this abnormal relationship that you have
Speaker 1: found yourself in. So like listen, if this was one guy,
Speaker 1: right and the guy on the one dude didn't want
Speaker 1: to be in a relationship with you, but I want
Speaker 1: to do all this. It's just like a weird thing
Speaker 1: that it's just like not the thing to be holding
Speaker 1: out for, whether or not it's one guy or two guys.
Speaker 1: You know, they don't want you in the relationships, So like,
Speaker 1: don't fucking uh uh like hold out, don't keep holding out,
Speaker 1: just like go live it, Go live your life. Eric,
Speaker 1: you know, so Eric, listen, just because we're talking in
Speaker 1: circles here.
Speaker 5: No making recay, it's valid, you know, like, okay, I
Speaker 5: deserve Yeah, yeah, I'm okay. I'm just I'm hitting my dude.
Speaker 1: I'm crying.
Speaker 5: No, I feel like I'm crying. No, I'm not crying. Man,
Speaker 5: I'm good. I'm good. I have been going through a
Speaker 5: lot of emotions this last week, but I'm not crying
Speaker 5: right now. I'm like, it's been good, like it was.
Speaker 5: I didn't even know if they wanted to see me.
Speaker 5: I didn't even know if they wanted to still make
Speaker 5: things work. That was something that they said yesterday, and
Speaker 5: I was like, well, ship, Like, so do.
Speaker 1: I know, Eric, I'm gonna I'll let I'll let this
Speaker 1: be uh the final thing before we get out of here.
Speaker 1: But like, just just to reiterate, listen, if you want
Speaker 1: to keep sucking these guys, keep sucking these guys, but
Speaker 1: don't stop sucking other guys, you know, because they're fucking
Speaker 1: other guys, so you should fuck other guys and you
Speaker 1: know whatever, like fuck all the guys you want, and
Speaker 1: then you know, eventually the journey of fucking all the
Speaker 1: guys you want and being and living the full, unapology,
Speaker 1: unapologetic life of Eric, I think will lead you to
Speaker 1: whatever it is that you do truly want. So that's
Speaker 1: my two cents.
Speaker 5: Eric. You know that that I know. I know, that's
Speaker 5: like what I should do, and it's what I've been doing.
Speaker 5: I guess it's obviously it's still very fresh, but it's
Speaker 5: what I've been doing. Yeah you uh, I guess, yeah, hello.
Speaker 1: Yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 5: There was something that I wanted to ask you. I
Speaker 5: didn't know if I would ever like call crazy because
Speaker 5: I guess this is fake because I I didn't call
Speaker 5: more than once. I just called once and then you know,
Speaker 5: I got on. But I guess, like I'm sure you
Speaker 5: probably I don't know if you play Pokemon or not,
Speaker 5: but I guess I have a shiny treaco I would
Speaker 5: love to give to you.
Speaker 1: I that's very very sweet of you, but I have
Speaker 1: no way to take your shiny treaco. I'm not a
Speaker 1: Pokemon guy. I don't like did Pokemon without like I don't.
Speaker 1: Pokemon is like an RP turn based like part like
Speaker 1: it's I know, it's like the most popular thing ever,
Speaker 1: but I'm not like that big into number ye turn
Speaker 1: based RPGs. But the Poketopia ship that it does look
Speaker 1: kind of cool, but it's it's not something I would
Speaker 1: ever really play or get into. I'm not a big
Speaker 1: Pokemon dude. I don't even know. Like I look back
Speaker 1: at uh when I was a kid, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: how the fuck did I play this? Like it doesn't
Speaker 1: it's it's kind of complicated for like a like a kid.
Speaker 1: You know that I love the numbers.
Speaker 5: It has something for kids, but it's also like something
Speaker 5: like that's the ship that keeps it interesting, like you know,
Speaker 5: like when you get older.
Speaker 1: You know, Eric, is there anything else you want to
Speaker 1: say to the people of the computer before we go?
Speaker 5: Oh, man, I have no idea. I guess, Uh, gay
Speaker 5: bears out there listening.
Speaker 1: I'm single, dude, all of the gay bears listening, please
Speaker 1: go fuck this guy. I endorse fucking this guy who
Speaker 1: is on the phone as if you're a gay bear.
Speaker 1: I endorse making a uh comment on the Spotify comments
Speaker 1: and saying hey, here's my email address. If you're Eric
Speaker 1: and you're listening, you know, feel free to message me
Speaker 1: and we'll have sex. I endorse that happening for you.
Speaker 5: Thank you for your endorsement.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Eric. Having the rest of the night you too.
Speaker 5: By Eric by boy, and.
Speaker 1: Hey, maybe after maybe after you and Eric have sex,
Speaker 1: he can give you that shiny treaco. Hello. Hi, Hello,
Speaker 1: what's your name?
Speaker 3: My name's Denma.
Speaker 1: What's up? House life.
Speaker 3: So crazy? I saw your little posting and I woke
Speaker 3: straight up asleep. I was like, in a stand call Ceci.
Speaker 1: So you were asleep just now?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 8: I was.
Speaker 3: I was out and I woke up, went on Instagram.
Speaker 3: Sorry little post. I was like, let's try because I
Speaker 3: haven't actually tried to call you, but I have been
Speaker 3: listening to your podcast for a really long time.
Speaker 1: Oh fuck, yah, thank you Bella. Well, now that we're connected, Uh,
Speaker 1: was there anything in particular you wanted to talk about today?
Speaker 5: Well?
Speaker 3: I feel like the only interesting thing to talk about
Speaker 3: was that I work with rats.
Speaker 1: You work with rats? Do you?
Speaker 5: Do? You?
Speaker 2: But?
Speaker 1: Did?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: Do you buy chance? Work in an arcade that serves pizza?
Speaker 3: No? I don't. They're not cute rats like those.
Speaker 1: Oh do you buy chance? Work in a lab that
Speaker 1: tests various U medical slash cosmetic products?
Speaker 3: No, because then they'd still be pretty rats. Right?
Speaker 1: Oh? No, okay, what kind of rats are you working
Speaker 1: with here?
Speaker 3: So think of like a rat farm, a rat like yeah,
Speaker 3: like a So it's like a facility where we grow
Speaker 3: up the rats from pinkies which are babies, and then
Speaker 3: mice and then whit no, I lied fuzzies, and then
Speaker 3: wean and then small and then medium and then medium
Speaker 3: large and then large and then mammoth and then colossal.
Speaker 3: So they all go to like they're for reptile feeders
Speaker 3: and stuff, and then some people buy them for pets.
Speaker 1: Oh, so you breed them to be eaten by snakes.
Speaker 3: Snakes and cota mundies and whatever other stuff people have
Speaker 3: to feed them too.
Speaker 1: Does it ever? Do you ever feel bad for the
Speaker 1: rats because you know that you're birthing them for the
Speaker 1: sole purpose of being eaten as food.
Speaker 3: No, not really, because they're like so they're like super
Speaker 3: emotional creatures, which I guess in theories you say that, Yeah,
Speaker 3: maybe I'm maybe I feel a little bad about it,
Speaker 3: but they're super They get treated with a lot of
Speaker 3: respect before they gotta go, so it's not like we're
Speaker 3: torturing them. So it's like they don't know what's coming.
Speaker 3: So maybe it's a bummers, maybe it's a little fucked up.
Speaker 1: Do you have a lot of respect for rats in general?
Speaker 3: Oh? I don't think I could if I worked here,
Speaker 3: because I see somebody die all the time. But I
Speaker 3: have respect for the life that they have while they're there.
Speaker 1: Do you think that your life is inherently more valuable
Speaker 1: than the life of a rat?
Speaker 3: No, I just feel like it's a power dynamic thing.
Speaker 1: Oh do you feel powerful leading the rats to their death?
Speaker 3: No? I feel like uh oh no. I want to say,
Speaker 3: I'm just doing my job.
Speaker 1: But if one of the rats started talking and begged
Speaker 1: you not to feed them to the snakes, what would
Speaker 1: you do?
Speaker 3: I would grant it's release of course.
Speaker 1: Really you get fired though, if I was you, if
Speaker 1: I was your boss, what's your name? Bella?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: If what do you? What do you exactly do? Uh?
Speaker 3: So, there's like so many parts to the shop right now,
Speaker 3: and it's kind of like in a weird spot. I
Speaker 3: don't even know if it's going to see it past
Speaker 3: like three or four months, because it got underneath it.
Speaker 1: But what do you? But what do you? What do
Speaker 1: you do in the process?
Speaker 3: Oh? Like everything? So yeah, it's really complicated, it's really weird.
Speaker 3: So like the easiest parts are like prepping all the
Speaker 3: things that they live in so they lay on bedding
Speaker 3: and stuff, and different sizes need different sizes containeers, and
Speaker 3: then you got to take them out and clean them
Speaker 3: because they get all nasty and covered in doodoo.
Speaker 1: If I just wanted to say, if I was your
Speaker 1: boss and I heard that you let a rat go
Speaker 1: because it spoke to you, I would you would be
Speaker 1: so fired you, really, I would be so furious at you.
Speaker 1: I would be like, did it is? I don't care
Speaker 1: if the rat did a tap dance and sang a song.
Speaker 1: All right, I don't pay you to make friends with
Speaker 1: the rats. That's what That's what I tell everyone who
Speaker 1: gets into this business. You never ever ever make friends
Speaker 1: with the rats. Okay. Your job is to feed the rats,
Speaker 1: to make them all fatty and juicy for the snakes.
Speaker 1: Your job is not to uh let the rats sing
Speaker 1: a song that clutches at your heart. Okay. This is
Speaker 1: not a job for for weak people who can be
Speaker 1: so easily swayed by by by a Mickey Mouse performance. Okay,
Speaker 1: you're not cut out for this industry, sister. That's what
Speaker 1: I would say. I would say. I would say something
Speaker 1: like that to you.
Speaker 8: If you let a rat, well, well, i'd say, well, boss,
Speaker 8: I just just got to going in the process.
Speaker 3: I'd take a handful and we'd go frolicking, and they'd
Speaker 3: be free, and I'd be jobless. But at least the
Speaker 3: bisentient rats got freedom.
Speaker 1: Freedom doesn't pay the bills. Okay, freedom doesn't pay the bills.
Speaker 1: What pays the bills is uh is murdered?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: What pays the bills? Uh? Okay? You work with the rats.
Speaker 1: How's the rest of your life going?
Speaker 5: Are you?
Speaker 1: Okay?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it's it's gone. It's gone.
Speaker 2: Awesome.
Speaker 3: So I live on the same property that I work at,
Speaker 3: so it's like I kind of live with the rats too,
Speaker 3: if you want to think about it that way. So
Speaker 3: it walks like, oh yeah, I walk like three feet
Speaker 3: and they're there.
Speaker 5: So mm hmmm.
Speaker 1: Uh so is okay? So you're living with the rats
Speaker 1: and you really you haven't formed deep emotional bonds with them.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So, like I would say about like getting to
Speaker 3: like keep in my own because they're really sweet.
Speaker 1: Actually, could you tell that? Would you ask your boss
Speaker 1: if you can have the rats? Or would you just
Speaker 1: kind of lift them?
Speaker 3: So the interesting thing is is that my father is
Speaker 3: the owner and then his girlfriend's my boss. Oh yeah,
Speaker 3: we're all in the pretty same page about things. And
Speaker 3: if I was like, hey, I'm gonna like Jackie's two rats,
Speaker 3: they'd be like, all right, just like just like, don't
Speaker 3: forget to take them when you leave.
Speaker 5: Mmmmmm hmmm.
Speaker 1: Do you have what are your general life aspirations?
Speaker 3: Uh, to learn how to be happy, to have a
Speaker 3: life outside of make money, and yeah, to learn how
Speaker 3: to be happy.
Speaker 1: What do you think is preventing you from being happy?
Speaker 3: I had some stuff happened on trying to I can't
Speaker 3: remember it, but it's just dormant in my mind, and
Speaker 3: it kind of like it makes things difficult to be
Speaker 3: hopeful for, if that makes sense.
Speaker 1: Oh, sure, sure, are you hopeful about anything?
Speaker 3: I'm hopeful that I'll keep moving forward because I know
Speaker 3: that I can't stop.
Speaker 1: Okay, you can't stop. You can, you shouldn't, but you
Speaker 1: totally can. In fact, it's actually important, that's important to remember.
Speaker 1: It's very important to remember that you act you totally
Speaker 1: can stop. I feel like if you can't stay, I
Speaker 1: feel like if you really couldn't stop, it would make
Speaker 1: not stopping less impressive. But I'm impressed that you don't
Speaker 1: stop because you totally can't. You can always stop. You
Speaker 1: can always stop, but you don't, which makes you which
Speaker 1: makes you strong, It makes.
Speaker 3: You really tired, but yeah strong. There's one way to
Speaker 3: put it.
Speaker 2: M m.
Speaker 1: Mmmmmmmmm. What are you going to not stop doing?
Speaker 3: Uh? Working and being productive? We're also just dead rod
Speaker 3: all day. I sleep fourteen hours and still wake up
Speaker 3: and be tired. I love sleep.
Speaker 1: What's your name again, Bella? Bella? Is there anything else
Speaker 1: you want to say to the people of the computer
Speaker 1: before we go?
Speaker 3: No, I appreciate you answering after I stand called you
Speaker 3: twenty times. You're a cool guy.
Speaker 1: Hey, uh, you're a cool rat. That didn't make any sense,
Speaker 1: but gek, bless you, Bella, ghak bless.
Speaker 3: You, Bella.
Speaker 2: Have a good rest of have a.
Speaker 1: Good rest of your life. And uh, you know what,
Speaker 1: Free those m F rats all right? Free? Free a couple,
Speaker 1: free a couple of them? Yeah, free couple of them?
Speaker 1: Name one Lyle and the other Jenny. If it's a girl,
Speaker 1: good boy who cares?
Speaker 3: Seeing pictures of my new uh cucko rat children on Instagram?
Speaker 1: I got you, beautiful, beautiful, have a good rest of
Speaker 1: your life.
Speaker 3: You too, goes on the.
Speaker 5: Line, making your phone calls
Speaker 8: Every night, everyones's teaching you in the of your life
Speaker 8: exper