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Speaker 1: This this One Bill's Live presented by Calida Health.

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Speaker 2: It's's Friday.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to One Bill's Live. Chris Brown, Chris Trepasso with you.

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Speaker 2: Steve out of town on Vaca again.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what the days total is up to,

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Speaker 3: but it's pretty dang hi, but yeah, welcome in. Thanks

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Speaker 3: for helping us out today, Chris as always appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: Plenty of stuff going on around the NFL, and we'll

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Speaker 3: dive in as quick as we can. I was telling

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Speaker 3: Chris before we came on their. Okay, so it's finally

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Speaker 3: hot in Western New York, which is great. We love

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Speaker 3: summer and the nice weather and getting outside and doing stuff.

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Speaker 3: I come into the building today, it's like sixty five

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Speaker 4: That's cold inside.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, well, yeah, I mean I got I

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Speaker 3: got a short sleeve shirt on. I wore shorts here

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Speaker 3: on casual Friday, and I'm in the I'm in the

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Speaker 3: office and I'm like rubbing my hands together, and I'm

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Speaker 3: just like, hey, wait a second. I actually walked back

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Speaker 3: outside a couple of times to warm up in the

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Speaker 3: sun because I can't control the thermostead in here. It's

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Speaker 3: kind of like a universal thing, And I'm thinking to.

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Speaker 5: Myself, it's only hot here for like three months of

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Speaker 5: the year. Why are we freezing ourselves indoors in the

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Speaker 5: ac Like, can we at least do seventy?

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Speaker 3: I know I probably sound like an old man right now,

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Speaker 3: but like, can we at least just stick seventy on

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Speaker 3: the thermostat and work with that?

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Speaker 6: Like?

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Speaker 3: Why are we freezing ourselves in the summertime? I know

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Speaker 3: we want to be cool and comfortable, but I was

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Speaker 3: freezing today. Yeah, to come in here, get onto the

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Speaker 3: studio lights, it's.

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Speaker 6: A little warmer.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: That's always funny to me with people around the area

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Speaker 4: that even into April complaining about that it's not sixty

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Speaker 4: or seventy yet. Then we get this heat wave this

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Speaker 4: past week, and then all I've heard friends and family

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Speaker 4: complaining about how hot it was, And I was like,

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Speaker 4: wait a minute, wait a minute. We're we can golf, now,

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Speaker 4: we can go in pools. Let's not complain too much.

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Speaker 4: And I totally agree with you coming into work and

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Speaker 4: then it's suddenly freezing. It's like, what are we doing?

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Speaker 4: What are we doing here?

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Speaker 3: I look, I will never complain that it's too hot here.

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Speaker 3: I will never ever do that. Steve was doing it

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Speaker 3: the other day. We came in off the practice field

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Speaker 3: for Motas on Tuesday. You know when you're standing on

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Speaker 3: that red rubber track out there by the grass field

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Speaker 3: and it absorbs the heat so it feels even hotter,

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Speaker 3: and Steve's just he's just.

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Speaker 2: He's whiny, burden me going.

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, I gotta go inside, it's too hot.

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Speaker 3: And then he's complaining that it's nine thousand degrees. I

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Speaker 3: was like, Okay, come on, this is our first week

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Speaker 3: of heat that we've really had and we're already on

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Speaker 3: that train. I said, you can't complain about it being

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Speaker 3: too hot in Buffalo. Anytime we can get it, we

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Speaker 3: should be taking it hand over fist.

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Speaker 4: And training camp in July, Saint John Fisher's always hot.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's yeah, But I mean I got a taste

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Speaker 3: of what training camps down south are like back in

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Speaker 3: twenty nineteen, when the Bills went down for joint practices

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Speaker 3: with the Panthers Spartanburg, South Carolina.

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Speaker 4: Sweltering.

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Speaker 2: We were melter.

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Speaker 3: Like we're We're at Wafford College in Spartanburg, South Carolina

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Speaker 3: in August, and it was like one hundred and twenty

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Speaker 3: was hard to come by, Like there was one line

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Speaker 3: of trees between one of the backfields and the main

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Speaker 3: the two main practice fields, and people were pulling money

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Speaker 3: out of their pockets to trade with somebody to stand

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Speaker 2: That's how bad it was.

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Speaker 4: And you were like there for the Dolphins game last

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Speaker 4: year when it was like record setting.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I went.

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Speaker 3: I went down to the field with like two minutes

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Speaker 3: left because if the Bills had won, I had to

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Speaker 3: do a postgame hit for our website and our postgame

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Speaker 3: show that Maddie and Steve do Bills tonight and so

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Speaker 3: in the event, and it was close. So when the

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Speaker 3: event that they won, I was gonna have to grab

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Speaker 3: somebody coming off with one of our videographers. So I

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Speaker 3: was down there at the end. Now the sun had

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Speaker 3: already moved past the edge of the stadium, so at

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Speaker 3: that point it wasn't ridiculous, but it was a sticky.

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Speaker 2: Sticky day.

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Speaker 7: It was.

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Speaker 2: That was bad. What did I always say, It's not

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Speaker 2: the heat.

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Speaker 6: It's the humidity.

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Speaker 3: That is true in South Florida, maybe more than anywhere

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Speaker 3: else in the country, but as we said, plenty to

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Speaker 3: get to today.

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Speaker 2: It is an OBE Fan Friday mailbag.

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Speaker 3: So any questions that you have, fire them off to

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Speaker 3: us now and we will get to them a little

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Speaker 2: The number to get on board.

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Speaker 3: Question about the Bills, the league, get large, some of

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Speaker 3: the rules changes, something with the new stadium, whatever it is,

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Speaker 3: fired off and Chris and I'll do our best to

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Speaker 3: answer those intelligently. But we we've got first of all

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Speaker 3: Bill's news.

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Speaker 2: There is a new addition to the roster.

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Speaker 3: Marcel Eightman, a former late round draft choice of the

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Speaker 3: Raiders about six or seven years ago, signs with the Bills.

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Speaker 3: Was most recently in the XFL with the Saint Louis BattleHawks.

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Speaker 3: He was like a number two.

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Speaker 4: He was like the number two overall pick in the XFL.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and another big target.

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Speaker 3: And I was quickly trying to scribble these down before

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Speaker 3: we went on the air, Chris, because once again this

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Speaker 3: is another giant target that's added to the receiving corps here.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you look at this group last year, and

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Speaker 3: Steve and I have talked about this on the show. Chris,

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Speaker 3: you look a look up and down the roster from

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Speaker 3: last year at the receiver position, and you had small guys,

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Speaker 3: with the exception of Gabe Davis and Jake Coomero.

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Speaker 2: I mean, those are the only guys that were six

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Speaker 3: Now you run down this list and I realize we're

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Speaker 3: talking about a pre camp list, so it's a bigger

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Speaker 3: pool right now. But Deontay Hardy is the only guy

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Speaker 3: under six foot. I mean Steph's six foot. Even Shakira

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Speaker 3: they released Braden Johnson who was right at six feet,

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Speaker 3: Surefield six ' one, shorter six ' four, Patman six ' five,

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Speaker 3: Isaiah Colter is six ' to two, and then Eightman,

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Speaker 3: who you just added is six ' four. And I

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Speaker 3: got to look up these other guys, Brian Thompson, Jalen Wayne.

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Speaker 3: I wanted a Keishawn Johnson.

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Speaker 4: Keishon Johnson is a little over st six to.

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Speaker 2: One, okay, so he's six to one.

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Speaker 3: Tyrell Shavers I saw also is I believe over six

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Speaker 3: foot So the point here is there was a discernible

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Speaker 3: motivation to insert size into the equation here in the

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Speaker 3: receiving corps maybe like I've never seen before, it is

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Speaker 3: almost uniform down the board after Deontay Hardy, who is

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Speaker 3: the outlier at five foot six.

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Speaker 4: And I think it's important that there's kind of been

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Speaker 4: a philosophy among evaluators that you kind of want to

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Speaker 4: have that basketball team, You want to have the point

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Speaker 4: guard that's a smaller size, and you kind of want

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Speaker 4: to go up from there. For a lot of the

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Speaker 4: Josh Allen era to date, the Bills in general have

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Speaker 4: been pretty small at the receiver group. And your point

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Speaker 4: earlier to say that among the guys who are really

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Speaker 4: Gabe Davis was like the towering wide receiver at six

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Speaker 4: foot two, which in today's NFL is not crazy big.

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Speaker 4: I think maybe this is input from Josh Allen or

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Speaker 4: the fact that Josh Allen does have that tendency to

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Speaker 4: just fire the football in there through super tight windows,

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Speaker 4: and you want that bigger receiver that can go up

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Speaker 4: and get it. Worth noting too, before signing Marcel Aateman,

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Speaker 4: clear emphasis or evolution in terms of the specifics of

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Speaker 4: what they want at the receiver spot. And I'm all

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Speaker 4: for it. I think separation ability matters. Most Bills have

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Speaker 4: that with Deonti Hardy, with of course Stefan Diggs. They

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Speaker 4: can scheme guys open, but being able to have that size,

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Speaker 4: shoulders where it's kind of funny that Gabe Davis being

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Speaker 4: the biggest guy I think has been the best in

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Speaker 4: those back shoulder on the perimeter type throws from Josh

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Speaker 4: Allen the sideline. They want more size at the receiver spot,

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Speaker 4: and a lot of these bottom of the roster camp

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Speaker 4: bodies are not going to make the team, but only if,

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Speaker 4: but if one or two are ultimately good enough to

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Speaker 4: make the team. That adds your wide receiver five or

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And so it's gonna be interesting because and I

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Speaker 3: think the whole reason that they're looking for this much

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Speaker 3: because I think they're hoping one of those big guys

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Speaker 3: proves themselves worthy of being on the roster. I mean,

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Speaker 3: he's shorter at six ' four, who is the fifth

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Speaker 3: round draft choice. He's having competition with a lot of

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Speaker 3: guys who are of the same body type. You watch

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Speaker 3: all these guys line up out on the practice field

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Speaker 3: at OTAs. They're very very similar in stature. Shorter, Patman Shavers,

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Speaker 3: and Jalen Wayne. They all look like they're cut out

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Speaker 3: of the same kind of marble. They'll shaped the same

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Speaker 3: long angular type receivers, and I think it's an element

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Speaker 3: some way, shape or Now. Granted, Shorter is probably if

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Speaker 3: he makes this roster, it's going to be because of

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Speaker 3: what he does on special teams, where he has some

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Speaker 3: some of these other guys that are in that pool

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Speaker 2: As we know, Isaiah Hodgens.

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Speaker 3: Tried to show he could be a project at least

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Speaker 3: and improve on special teams through the preseason last year.

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Speaker 3: Obviously it didn't show them enough and he doesn't end

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Speaker 3: up on the fifty three man roster.

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Speaker 2: It's Komero again last year.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think to that point, it's good that you

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Speaker 4: brought up Isaiah Hodgins, who was a former draft crusher.

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Speaker 4: Mind I really liked him in Buffalo. This could maybe

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Speaker 4: be not directly because they lost Isaiah Hodgins to the Giants,

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Speaker 4: but maybe that they were feeling like they were developing

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Speaker 4: a big body to be that occasional practice squad call

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Speaker 4: up or your wide receiver five or six that you

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Speaker 4: did like to have, that size that you don't have anymore.

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Speaker 4: They had pretty good success with Duke Williams, who was,

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Speaker 4: you know, from the Canadian Football League and was kind

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Speaker 4: a few years ago, and they got some good production

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Speaker 3: first release, so that hit their books, you know, today,

440
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Speaker 3: and I think they're somewhere around ten million.

441
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Speaker 4: Thirteen I think was the most recent I saw.

442
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Speaker 3: Yeah, Miami cleared thirteen point six million with the Byron

443
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Speaker 3: Jones June post June first cut, and the Browns are

444
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Speaker 3: in similar company in terms of the money. They opened

445
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Speaker 3: up in additional cap space, so they're one of the

446
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Speaker 3: few teams out there that, if interested, could offer him

447
00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:24,480
Speaker 3: respectable money. And I think in the end game here,

448
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Speaker 3: DeAndre Hopkins' ego as to what his market value is

449
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Speaker 3: is going to get in the way of him signing

450
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Speaker 3: with a contender, and I think he's going to take

451
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Speaker 3: the money. And I think the reason why is all

452
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Speaker 3: because of the Odell Beckham deal.

453
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Speaker 6: Yeah, that was huge.

454
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Speaker 3: That really chopped him by all indications, because the guy

455
00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:46,880
Speaker 3: got fifteen million from the Ravens after not playing all

456
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Speaker 3: of last season, and I think that's that's sticking in

457
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Speaker 3: the craw of DeAndre Hopkins, who's like, well, hold on

458
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Speaker 3: a second.

459
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Speaker 2: I know I missed six games.

460
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Speaker 3: For a PD suspension, but I played last year and

461
00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:01,880
Speaker 3: showed I could still play. You don't know what you're

462
00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:06,679
Speaker 3: getting in Beckham necessarily second ACL and you're handed him

463
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Speaker 3: fifteen million dollars and I can't even get a sniff

464
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Speaker 3: of that.

465
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Speaker 2: I could see how he could.

466
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Speaker 3: Be rankled by that and to say, well, look, I'd

467
00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:17,120
Speaker 3: love to.

468
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Speaker 2: Win, but not for one year. At the veteran minimum.

469
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Speaker 2: Come on, man, I can't go there.

470
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Speaker 3: So I see him going to a team that can

471
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Speaker 3: actually pay him a little bit more money. And maybe

472
00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:29,480
Speaker 3: it's only nine million dollars, but Cleveland can make that fit.

473
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Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely. And I think two to that point, DeAndre

474
00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:37,960
Speaker 4: Hopkins throughout his career, if he's really staring at this

475
00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:41,520
Speaker 4: Odell Buckham junior contract and saying I played last year,

476
00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:44,280
Speaker 4: I prove that I didn't lose a step or or

477
00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:46,520
Speaker 4: you know, I could still be a high caliber receiver.

478
00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:49,560
Speaker 4: DeAndre Hopkins has been a better wide receiver than Odell

479
00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:52,320
Speaker 4: Buckham Junior throughout their careers. They're right around the same age.

480
00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:55,520
Speaker 4: So it's not like Odell Beckham Junior was the one

481
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Speaker 4: that was the elite, you know, maybe top three wide

482
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Speaker 4: receiver in the NFL just a few years ago. That

483
00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:03,919
Speaker 4: was DeAndre Hopkins. So for as much as maybe he

484
00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:07,960
Speaker 4: is a little bit overinflating his value in twenty twenty

485
00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:12,240
Speaker 4: three because of this Odell Beckham Junior deal that just

486
00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:15,720
Speaker 4: happened relatively recently, he has all the right to think

487
00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:17,640
Speaker 4: I should get as much, if not more than O'Dell

488
00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:18,400
Speaker 4: Beckham June.

489
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Speaker 3: Right, And knowing that there is a likelihood that he's

490
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Speaker 3: signing a one year deal with Cleveland. He has the

491
00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:29,080
Speaker 3: built in chemistry with the quarterback already. That has to

492
00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:33,119
Speaker 3: be an appealing thing for him as well. You don't

493
00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:35,439
Speaker 3: have to build the chemistry through the limited time you

494
00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:37,679
Speaker 3: have left, whether it's mini camp and training camp.

495
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Speaker 2: It's already there.

496
00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:42,119
Speaker 3: It's a guy that he trusts is going to look

497
00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:45,080
Speaker 3: for him in big spots, even though Amuri Cooper is

498
00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:47,600
Speaker 3: going to be on the other side. So I think

499
00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:50,679
Speaker 3: you roll all that together. Not to mention, there are

500
00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:55,440
Speaker 3: reports out of Cleveland now that Watson has privately been

501
00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:57,480
Speaker 3: going all out to recruit Hopkins.

502
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Speaker 2: So it's it seems to be pointing that way.

503
00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:03,240
Speaker 4: A lot of things fit right.

504
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Speaker 3: So now the question becomes, does Cleveland come up with

505
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Speaker 3: the money that's going to be sufficient to get the

506
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Speaker 3: deal done.

507
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Speaker 2: That's the way it seems to be headed right now.

508
00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:15,639
Speaker 3: And I and you know, you can say what you

509
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:19,120
Speaker 3: want about the Marcel Eightman signing, but I think it's

510
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:22,640
Speaker 3: just another indication that the Bills are looking for more

511
00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:26,240
Speaker 3: affordable options because they're down to under a million and

512
00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:29,040
Speaker 3: a half in cap space now. You know, according to

513
00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:34,080
Speaker 3: the cap sites, and they're gonna have to do something.

514
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Speaker 3: I know, once you get to the regular season, it's

515
00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:39,280
Speaker 3: only your top fifty one salaries, but you still may

516
00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:42,720
Speaker 3: have to do some maneuvering there even with even under

517
00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:46,280
Speaker 3: those circumstances, because as Brandon Bean has said, often when

518
00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:48,800
Speaker 3: he gets to the regular season, he likes to have

519
00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:51,080
Speaker 3: like about a five or a six million dollar cushion,

520
00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:54,520
Speaker 3: so in case there are a rash of injuries, he

521
00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:56,120
Speaker 3: can go out on the street and try to find

522
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Speaker 3: some veterans that are sitting out there. And there's still

523
00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:01,360
Speaker 3: quite a few, quite a few name veterans sitting out

524
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:04,240
Speaker 3: there even now, so they are probably going to have

525
00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:06,760
Speaker 3: to do some kind of maneuvering even when they get

526
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:08,840
Speaker 3: to the end of August early September and the fifty

527
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:14,240
Speaker 3: three man roster is set. We also have the this

528
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Speaker 3: was interesting. This is the only reason I bring this

529
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:19,200
Speaker 3: one up. So Micah Parsons obviously is a sack machine,

530
00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:22,240
Speaker 3: has been for the last couple of years for the Cowboys,

531
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Speaker 3: but now defensive coordinator Dan Quinn is ready to make

532
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Speaker 3: him into a full blown chess piece. Parsons was kind

533
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Speaker 3: of hinting at it, obviously, didn't want to give anything away,

534
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Speaker 3: but he basically said, I don't just want to be

535
00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:44,080
Speaker 3: the sack guy anymore. I want to do everything in

536
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Speaker 3: my power to win games. And you know, we talk

537
00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:49,920
Speaker 3: about this all the time, Chris positionless football and how

538
00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:52,560
Speaker 3: the league is moving more and more and more towards that,

539
00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:57,000
Speaker 3: and Parsons is a perfect candidate to do that. He

540
00:26:57,080 --> 00:27:00,640
Speaker 3: basically said, Hey, we're just playing chess. Just being able

541
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:02,800
Speaker 3: to move me around. I think that's the special ability

542
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 3: that I have that I want to incorporate. We're doing

543
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:06,639
Speaker 3: a lot of special things. I don't want to give

544
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:08,120
Speaker 3: it away a lot right now, but.

545
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Speaker 2: It's gonna be a really cool year.

546
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Speaker 3: I'm probably gonna play like eight positions this year, so

547
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 3: don't even ask me anything that's in the front seven

548
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:18,200
Speaker 3: and some coverage. Yeah, I'm telling you, I'm gonna do

549
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:20,359
Speaker 3: it all. It's gonna be a year to remember for sure.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

551
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Speaker 4: This is definitely a big headline to have a superstar

552
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 4: say that I'm gonna play eight different positions. What is

553
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:29,560
Speaker 4: interesting though, in watching Michael Parsons' first two seasons that

554
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:33,840
Speaker 4: have just been historically productive, especially as a rookie, they

555
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:36,560
Speaker 4: lined him up a lot almost as just a chess

556
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Speaker 4: piece Blitzer.

557
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:37,919
Speaker 2: He was not.

558
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:40,720
Speaker 4: Because he came into the league they drafted him at linebacker.

559
00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:43,520
Speaker 4: Then there was an injury to DeMarcus Lawrence early, so

560
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:46,080
Speaker 4: they're like, hey, can you play edge rusher? And they're like, oh, yeah,

561
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:48,120
Speaker 4: he can play edge rusher. He can get to the quarterback.

562
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Speaker 4: But they were lining him up over the center and

563
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:53,240
Speaker 4: just letting him get upfield over the guard. It didn't

564
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:56,080
Speaker 4: really matter. So I don't think it's like suddenly he's

565
00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:59,119
Speaker 4: gonna be playing a new position. They've already kind of

566
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:01,560
Speaker 4: done that. The one thing I will say, and obviously

567
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:03,439
Speaker 4: Dan Quinn knows a lot more about football than I do.

568
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Speaker 4: Anytime Michaeh Parsons is dropping in coverage, I think that

569
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Speaker 4: is a win for the offense. He needs to be attacking,

570
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:14,800
Speaker 4: getting after the quarterback. He is a tremendous athlete. He

571
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,480
Speaker 4: did play off ball linebacker at Penn State. I remember

572
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:20,840
Speaker 4: scouting him. Obviously, was not great in coverage. He was

573
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:24,520
Speaker 4: just good getting sidelined to sideline and mostly attacking the quarterback.

574
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Speaker 4: So if there's times maybe when the Bills are playing

575
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:30,600
Speaker 4: in where Micah Parsons is dropping into coverage, You're like, okay,

576
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:32,920
Speaker 4: we'll take that. He's not trying to get after our quarterback.

577
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:35,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, And when he says, hey, positions.

578
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 4: There's like there's nuanced positions.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna kick inside on you know, a third down

580
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:45,000
Speaker 3: and rush from a you know, Or maybe I line

581
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 3: up as a linebacker and but I'm blitzing into.

582
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Speaker 2: The A gap. It's a different role. See Edmonds and

583
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:51,320
Speaker 2: Milano do a lot.

584
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Speaker 3: Maybe he lines up in there as a stand up

585
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:56,720
Speaker 3: guy behind the lineman and that's a different position, or

586
00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 3: maybe he's playing a joker position and yeah, like there's

587
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:02,240
Speaker 3: so many different things up along the line that he

588
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:05,440
Speaker 3: could probably tick off as a different position, when in essence,

589
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 3: his job remains the same.

590
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Speaker 2: Because I agree with you. If you're not going to

591
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:13,280
Speaker 2: rush him, you're an idiot. That's just I mean, what

592
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:13,840
Speaker 2: do you do?

593
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,480
Speaker 4: You put it bluntly, and that's probably what guys.

594
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 3: Thirteen fourteen sacks every single year. At least last thing

595
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:22,320
Speaker 3: before we get to the break, we know the new

596
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 3: kick return rule that's in place. Kickoffs can be fair

597
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:29,840
Speaker 3: caught from basically the one to the twenty five yard line.

598
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 3: If you do that, you get it at twenty five

599
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 3: just like a touchback in the end zone on a kickoff.

600
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:37,440
Speaker 3: And so while special teams coordinators are not happy with

601
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:41,280
Speaker 3: the rule change, uh, there are some coaches around the

602
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:43,560
Speaker 3: league that intend to be aggressive anyway.

603
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:46,000
Speaker 2: One of those is Seattle Seahawks head coach p Carroll.

604
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Speaker 3: He obviously has confidence in his return units, so he says, hey,

605
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 3: we're going to compete with it. We're going to use

606
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:53,920
Speaker 3: it to our advantage. We're pretty good in those areas.

607
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:56,120
Speaker 3: We like to think we're a good return team and

608
00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:59,200
Speaker 3: we can make things happen. He said, it'll depend. I

609
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:01,040
Speaker 3: think you'll see in a effect during the course of

610
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Speaker 3: the season as the weather changes, and I guess I

611
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,200
Speaker 3: think what he might mean by that is colder weather,

612
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:10,120
Speaker 3: ball doesn't travel as far. Let's just squib the heck

613
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Speaker 3: out of it instead of trying to get hit it

614
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,920
Speaker 3: for a touchback and kick it on the ground so

615
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 3: they can't fair catch it. So you'll probably see some

616
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:21,160
Speaker 3: of that. But he said, I think teams are going

617
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Speaker 3: to want to compete and try to bring the ball out.

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Speaker 2: That's really all it is.

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Speaker 3: If you're going to take it to the twenty five

620
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Speaker 3: or not, he said, we'll see how it looks when

621
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Speaker 3: we compete with it and see if our core group

622
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Speaker 3: can continue to give us good work like we've always

623
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Speaker 3: counted on. I'm not thinking we're taking a knee on everything.

624
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 3: We're gonna be very aggressive about it, which is interesting. Yeah, obviously,

625
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:44,600
Speaker 3: maybe maybe Pete looked at his schedule and he knows

626
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 3: half the teams he's playing have crummy cover units.

627
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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's gonna come down to that.

628
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Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe that's the impetus for him saying we're gonna

629
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Speaker 3: be an aggressive dag gone it.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: You always know when a rule like this comes in

632
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:02,480
Speaker 3: coordinate it's their job to find a workaround.

633
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, like, what is the workaround here.

634
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:09,480
Speaker 3: To still be productive on kickoffs whether you're covering or returning.

635
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:11,560
Speaker 3: They're going to try to find a work around.

636
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 4: Very quickly on this point. I think the Cowboys' main

637
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 4: return man, Cavante Turpin, said the same thing that he's

638
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:19,760
Speaker 4: never gonna fair catch the ball. I think it's just

639
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:22,960
Speaker 4: kind of comes down to whether it's the opponent's coverage

640
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:26,280
Speaker 4: units or if you feel like you can gain even

641
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 4: five to seven to ten yards. You think of all

642
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 4: the analytics that go into it that Hey, we just

643
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 4: got an extra first down on this drive. Then yes,

644
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:34,960
Speaker 4: teams will still be aggressive, but it will be I mean,

645
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:37,480
Speaker 4: I can't say for sure what's going to happen, just

646
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 4: to see how it evolves in season. And again like

647
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:43,680
Speaker 4: Pete saying, as the weather changes in the NFL landscape,

648
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:46,160
Speaker 4: what will teams do differently kicking the ball and whether

649
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:47,000
Speaker 4: or not they return it?

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Speaker 2: Aight oh three five fifty one eight eight five fifty

651
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Speaker 2: two five fifty. The number to get on board.

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Speaker 3: All right back here on one Bill's Live on a Friday,

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Speaker 3: Chris Brown, Chris Trapasso with you, and the obl Van

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Speaker 3: Friday mail bag is open. Any question you have on

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Speaker 3: the bills, the league at large, rules changes, whatever the

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Speaker 3: case might be, You fire us off a call at

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Speaker 3: eight oh three five point fifty one eight eight eight

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Speaker 3: five fifty two five fifty.

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Speaker 2: The number to get on board.

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Speaker 3: Leading us off today is Kevin in Hamburg.

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Speaker 2: What do you got for us, Kevin.

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Speaker 1: Your one bills live guys, how you doing? Thank for

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Speaker 1: taking my call? Sure, I can't believe I heard about

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Speaker 1: heard about to Shaun Watson even though he knew someone

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Speaker 1: from the Houston days as Ben As. He wants to

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Speaker 1: win and he wants to win so bad just because

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Speaker 1: he knew somethin Cleveland and Houston with what that division

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Speaker 1: will be like if he played there. I mean, if

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Speaker 1: he can't win in Buffalo, we know Ksese can win,

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Speaker 1: we know Dallas is usually pretty good. What is he

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Speaker 1: gonna do in Cleveland? Even if Deshaun plays the whole

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Speaker 1: season with what they have to deal with with Joe Burrow,

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Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson is gonna want to prove he deserves a

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Speaker 1: big money Kenny Pickett. Let's say he plays as good

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Speaker 1: as he did the last five games, like after the

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Speaker 1: Frankel game death and all that, why would he want

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Speaker 1: to go to Cleveland? Just I mean, I mean, he

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Speaker 1: had the chances in Buffalo to win, case to win

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Speaker 1: again Dallas. I don't know how they're gonna do it.

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Speaker 1: McCarthy can call him the plays. I mean, I don't

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Speaker 1: he better know someone really awesome to want to go

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Speaker 1: to Cleveland and deal with that when he really wants

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Speaker 1: to win, has a chance here in Buffalo. Well, I

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Speaker 1: just want to say that.

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Speaker 2: I just I respect it, Kevin, I do.

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Speaker 3: I just think what the clearly, what the Bills or

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Speaker 3: the Chiefs are capable of offering is pretty minimal because

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Speaker 3: their cap space is.

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Speaker 2: Very, very very limited.

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Speaker 3: I mean, the Bills are under a million and a

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Speaker 3: half in cap space. The Chiefs are under seven hundred

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Speaker 3: thousand in cap space. They have no cap space right now.

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Speaker 3: So what they can offer him is probably not only meager,

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Speaker 3: but too much for Hopkins to bear, to the point

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Speaker 3: where he says, come on, man, like I want to win,

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Speaker 3: but I don't want to win so bad that I

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Speaker 3: sign a contract that's ten times below the market value

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Speaker 3: I believe I deserve. That's the rub here, and so

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Speaker 3: beggars can't be choosers. If he wants money, he's got

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Speaker 3: to go to a team that can pay him the money.

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Speaker 3: In Cleveland's one of those teams.

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Speaker 4: And I think we can't forget that this is a

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Speaker 4: high performing athlete, was once again arguably a top three,

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Speaker 4: maybe even the best receiver in football a few years ago.

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Speaker 4: He should have a lot of confidence in his abilities,

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Speaker 4: and I'm sure DeAndre Hopkins could very quickly and probably

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Speaker 4: already has talked himself into, Hey, I go to Cleveland.

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Speaker 4: Suddenly the Browns are one of the really scary teams

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Speaker 4: in this loaded AFC with the Bills and the Chiefs

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Speaker 4: and the Chargers and the Bengals. So I think it's

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Speaker 4: easy to look at it from the outside and say, hey,

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Speaker 4: it's the Browns. What are they going to do? They

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Speaker 4: can't compete in this jam packed AFC. DeAndre Hopkins could say,

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Speaker 4: hey me, Deshaun Watson, Amari Cooper, Nick Chubb, the offensive line,

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Speaker 4: some pieces on defense, Miles Garrett. Obviously, suddenly they're one

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Speaker 4: of those elite teams in his mind. That's probably factoring

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Speaker 4: into let's go.

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Speaker 2: Back to the phones and we go to Kelly in Gowanda.

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Speaker 2: What do you got for us? Kelly?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I like to see him change. But coach in

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Speaker 7: a little. They passed the ball way too much. They

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Speaker 7: got to learn to run the ball. Okay, come on,

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Speaker 7: Josh on way too much running.

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Speaker 2: So you're you're not your Your biggest issue is Josh.

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Speaker 7: Running too much. He's running too much. Okay, all right,

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Speaker 7: running game, But they don't try hard. They're passing the

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Speaker 7: ball way too much.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I think we'll see a shift to

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Speaker 3: that to some degree, Kelly. I mean, the bottom line

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Speaker 3: is analytics and just about every other statistical service you

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Speaker 3: can come up with has proven that it is more

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Speaker 3: efficient scoring. You can score more efficiently by throwing the football.

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Speaker 3: It's a documented analytic fact, and that's why this league

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Speaker 3: is becoming the passing league that we've seen over the

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Speaker 3: better part of the last ten twelve years.

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Speaker 2: That is not changing.

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Speaker 3: Most teams with a franchise quarterback are going to be

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Speaker 3: throwing the football a lot, and I think the Bills

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Speaker 3: will continue to do that.

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Speaker 2: But I think it was important for.

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Speaker 3: Sean McDermott to change the roster in such a way

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Speaker 3: where they upgraded the interior of the offensive line between

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Speaker 3: the tackles, and they upgraded the running back position. I

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Speaker 3: think they succeeded on both fronts. You had your biggest

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Speaker 3: free agent contract go to Connor McGovern on the whole

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Speaker 3: team this offseason. You signed a proven starter in David

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Speaker 3: Edwards who had an injury history, so he came on

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Speaker 3: an affordable price, and you used the second round draft

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Speaker 3: choice on a guard in Osiris, Torrance. So that's three

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Speaker 3: guys that are all over three hundred and twenty five pounds,

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Speaker 3: biggest guards we've seen here in a long time. And

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Speaker 3: then you have Damian Harris, who's a great, not a great,

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Speaker 3: but a good yards over expected per carry back who

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Speaker 3: can run between the tackles, is great down at the

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Speaker 3: goal line. I think like thirteen of his twenty career

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Speaker 3: touchdowns are two yards or less. And then you have

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Speaker 3: Latavius Murray, who is a load due at two hundred

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Speaker 3: and thirty pounds and six foot three. So I think

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Speaker 3: you've upgraded the ability to run between the tackles by

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Speaker 3: virtue of the guard investment and by virtue of the

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Speaker 3: power running investment that you made in your backfield.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's perfectly spot on. I'll be succinct with this.

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Speaker 4: I don't think the Bills need to or should run

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Speaker 4: the football more. They just have to run it more.

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Speaker 4: They just were not great in that area. James Cook

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Speaker 4: did spring off some longer runs. Devin Singletary had his moments.

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Speaker 4: It's not about hey, let's try to get the Bills

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Speaker 4: to twenty five thirty carries a game. It's just in

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Speaker 4: those critical third and threes, you don't always it kind

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Speaker 4: of felt like it was always having to lean onto

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Speaker 4: Josh Allen superstar play where you can just hand the

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Speaker 4: ball off to Damien Harris, get four yards and move

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Speaker 4: the stick. So it's all about just being more efficient

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Speaker 4: upfront and with all those personnel changes, running back offensive

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Speaker 4: line has to be good, has to be better than

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Speaker 4: it was last year. They've made all those necessary moves

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Speaker 4: to make the offense and the run game more or

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Speaker 4: just operate more efficiently on the ground.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think Murray and Harris, with their proven

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Speaker 3: track record of shorret yardage success, will probably take the

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Speaker 3: ball out of the hands of Josh Allen in those

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Speaker 3: gotta have its situations and sure yardage when more often

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Speaker 3: than not it was quarterback power and you're exposing Josh.

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Speaker 2: To unnecessary hits.

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Speaker 3: I think you will see some of those come off

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Speaker 3: of his plate this year, Kelly. So maybe that makes

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Speaker 3: you feel a little bit better about the upcoming season.

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Speaker 2: Let's check and see what is in the mailbag.

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Speaker 3: Add one bills live on Twitter and the tweets sheet

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Speaker 3: is always brought to you by Corgan Moving Systems, the

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Speaker 3: official equipment moving company of the Buffalo Bills. And Andrew,

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Speaker 3: with our first comment today, says, who would you rather

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Speaker 3: have the Bills sign if they were still willing to

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Speaker 3: add to their roster? D hop or Frank Clark both

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Speaker 3: have issues with injury, but one is obviously cheaper to

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Speaker 3: get than the other.

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Speaker 2: What are your thoughts? What do you think about that?

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Speaker 4: So I'm going to go against one of my core

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Speaker 4: philosophies when it comes to the draft or free agency,

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Speaker 4: a question like this or a grade that's similar. I

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Speaker 4: always say to myself, when in doubt, go offense, because

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Speaker 4: offense is going to move the needle. It's going to

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Speaker 4: score more points, going to help you lead to wins.

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Speaker 4: But I think the second part of your question, Andrew,

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Speaker 4: you know one is obviously cheaper than the other. I

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Speaker 4: would side toward Frank Clark. I think with DeAndre Hopkins.

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Speaker 2: You know what you.

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Speaker 4: Would get with him. He's not an elite receiver anymore,

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Speaker 4: but he's still an upper echelon wide receiver. The one

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Speaker 4: thing I don't think he is being talked about enough

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Speaker 4: with DeAndre Hopkins. And this is not to say that

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Speaker 4: if the Bills signed him, then you know they should

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Speaker 4: have just really spread the ball around, but they signed

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Speaker 4: Trent Sherfield, Deonte Hardy, Justin Shorter in the fifth round.

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Speaker 4: I think they do want to spread the football around

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Speaker 4: a little bit. I think at times last year they

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Speaker 4: were very Stefan Digg centric and teams could really zero

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Speaker 4: in on that. There were some injuries they bring back

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Speaker 4: Cole Beasley and John Brown, they weren't able to spread

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Speaker 4: the football around as much as they did in twenty

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Speaker 4: twenty and twenty twenty one. I think it made him

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Speaker 4: a little bit more predictable. So if you signed Hopkins,

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Speaker 4: suddenly it's, oh, well, we just don't have the targets

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Speaker 4: now for Hardy and Sherfield and some other pieces, even

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Speaker 4: Dalton Kincaid, who they obviously picked in the first round.

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Speaker 4: So I would actually lean toward Frank Clark to tie

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Speaker 4: back to what we started this show with. If von

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Speaker 4: Miller is either not ready or the staff on the

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Speaker 4: medical side says you're not going on out there week one,

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Speaker 4: you're suddenly kind of in the same position that the

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Speaker 4: Bills were in in the playoffs last year, maybe in

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Speaker 4: need of some more juice on the outside with the

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Speaker 4: pass rush, And I think Frank Clark being cheaper could

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Speaker 4: certainly help eradicate that problem.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I don't know what injury history the guy's

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Speaker 3: talking about, because I mean, I know he was a

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Speaker 3: little dinged for the playoffs this last year, and I

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Speaker 3: think in a year prior as well in the postseason

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Speaker 3: Frank Clark was a little nicked up. But in the

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Speaker 3: last three years fifteen games, fourteen games, fifteen games.

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's not durable.

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Speaker 3: It's not like the guy misses a lot of time,

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Speaker 3: and he's only twenty nine. So I would probably lean

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Speaker 3: towards Clark as well, something to kind of carry you

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Speaker 3: through the early part of the season if you really

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Speaker 3: felt you needed it. Of course, you're probably throwing one

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Speaker 3: of the young veterans overboard that you drafted a few years.

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Speaker 2: Ago to make room for him. So yeah, it's not

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Speaker 2: an easy decision.

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Speaker 3: But if you really feel you need that boost on

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Speaker 3: the pass rush, and you maybe no, Miller's not coming

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Speaker 3: back till Week six, maybe that's a way to stem

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Speaker 3: the tide.

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Speaker 2: In the interim.

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Speaker 4: One tiny point that I want to make that is

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Speaker 4: gonna throw some water or just I guess, throw some

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Speaker 4: water on this DeAndre Hopkins fire with the Bills. I

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Speaker 4: don't think. For as good as he is, he's an

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Speaker 4: amazing ball skills wide receiver. He knows how to get

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Speaker 4: open even now into his thirties, DeAndre Hopkins will not fix.

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Speaker 4: What I think is the biggest problem with the Bills

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Speaker 4: pass game is that yards after the catch. That's never

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Speaker 4: been his game at times. I think maybe earlier in

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Speaker 4: his career he was pretty good eluding tacklers. That's not

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Speaker 4: his game anymore. So you bring him in and say,

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Speaker 4: all right, you need to throw him probably one hundred

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Speaker 4: plus targets. You have digs on the other side, it's

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Speaker 4: not gonna help. What, again, I think is the biggest

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Speaker 4: problem the last two years. They're not They're a low

875
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Speaker 4: level yards after the catch team. So if you're really

876
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Speaker 4: factoring that in as well, I think definitely it's Frank Clark.

877
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Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll take a break here, but more of your

878
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Speaker 3: phone calls when we return. John and Buffalo, Bob and Ken.

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Speaker 3: We're sit tight.

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Speaker 2: We'll get next to you when we return.

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Speaker 3: Here on One Bill's Live presented by Colida Health, It's

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Speaker 3: Buffalo Bills Radio.

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Speaker 2: All right back here on a Friday. One Bill's Live.

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Speaker 3: Obl Fan Friday Mailbag is open Chris Brown, Chris Drapasso

885
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:27,000
Speaker 3: with you, and we go right back to those phones

886
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Speaker 3: and to Bob in ken Moore.

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Speaker 2: What do you have for us? Bob, you're on one

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Speaker 2: Bill's Live.

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Speaker 6: Hi. Uh.

890
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:34,760
Speaker 8: You know the other day you guys were talking about

891
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:41,440
Speaker 8: all the different qualities that whoever takes takes over for

892
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:44,080
Speaker 8: Tremaine Edmonds would have to have, They would have to

893
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:46,920
Speaker 8: do this, they would have to do that, and uh,

894
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Speaker 8: uh you know, I was wondering, is it possible is

895
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Speaker 8: there a reason why Matt Mlonnald can't be the signal

896
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 8: caller on on the defense so that uh, you know,

897
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Speaker 8: some rookie or some new guy to the organization isn't

898
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Speaker 8: trying to pick that up as well as everything else.

899
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Speaker 3: Yeah, valid question, Bob. I think it's a valid question.

900
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Speaker 3: I think here to me, and this is just my opinion.

901
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Speaker 3: I don't know that the coaching staff shares this or

902
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Speaker 3: thinks differently.

903
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Speaker 7: To me.

904
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Speaker 3: Matt Mlano is his value is in his instincts. When

905
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Speaker 3: he is playing free and instinctive, that's when you get

906
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Speaker 3: all pro Matt Milano. And I think if you saddle

907
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Speaker 3: him with being responsible for lining up ten other guys

908
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:46,279
Speaker 3: making checks pre snap and communicating in that fashion, I

909
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:50,960
Speaker 3: think you're going to rob this defense of the greatest

910
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:55,080
Speaker 3: thing that he provides, which is his ability to instinctively

911
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Speaker 3: attack make plays, you know, recover loose balls, tip passes,

912
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Speaker 3: intercept balls, make sacks on blitzes. I'm not saying he

913
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Speaker 3: can't do it. I'm sure he's more than capable of

914
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Speaker 3: doing that. But there's a concern that I have that

915
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Speaker 3: if you do that, he's gonna be so consumed with

916
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Speaker 3: lining up the ten other guys that I think you're gonna.

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Speaker 2: Take away from his own playmaking ability.

918
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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a really good point, Chris, and I think

919
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Speaker 4: to kind of the opposite end of that is he's

920
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Speaker 4: just already an All Pro player as a week side linebacker.

921
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Speaker 4: So it's not like Trey White is an All Pro.

922
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Speaker 4: Let's move him to safety and see if he can

923
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Speaker 4: help the safety group out. You know what you have

924
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Speaker 4: with him, just exactly how he is in that role.

925
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Speaker 4: I think in today's NFL it's not super easy to

926
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Speaker 4: find superstars, and I think he's kind of a budding

927
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Speaker 4: superstar at this point in his career in Buffalo, coming

928
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Speaker 4: off the All Pro distinction. So yeah, just keep him

929
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Speaker 4: where he is, and I think in general being a

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Speaker 4: little smaller, and we've talked about it that the Bills

931
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Speaker 4: linebacker group is a little bit smaller relative to how

932
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Speaker 4: big linebackers have been in the last decade or so.

933
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Speaker 4: In general, the middle linebacker is the guy that's taking

934
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Speaker 4: on those lead blocks the weak side or the outside

935
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Speaker 4: linebacker strongside, weak side wherever. That's the Matt Millanald type.

936
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Speaker 4: He's the one cleaning up, and like you said, he's

937
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Speaker 4: free to make plays. Edmund's being bigger. I think you

938
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Speaker 4: mentioned that Bayle Inspector might be kind of a dark

939
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Speaker 4: horse because he's a little bit bigger to be that

940
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Speaker 4: middle linebacker that on those inside runs, which yes are

941
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Speaker 4: becoming more few and far between in the NFL. Usually

942
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Speaker 4: it's the middle linebacker that is the guy stacking and

943
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Speaker 4: shedding a block and then allowing his linebacker mate to

944
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Speaker 4: clean up. So I think you want, like Chris said,

945
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Speaker 4: you want Matt Milano as the one that is roaming

946
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Speaker 4: freely at the second level of.

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Speaker 3: The d right and even Bob, if you were suggesting

948
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Speaker 3: that he calls the plays from his weak side linebacker position,

949
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Speaker 3: that's tough also because very often he's not lined up

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Speaker 3: in the middle of the defense to facilitate communication.

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Speaker 4: He's in the slot sometimes.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So just by.

953
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Speaker 3: Virtue of where he's positioned on the field, it makes

954
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Speaker 3: communication more difficult, especially when you're in a home game

955
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Speaker 3: and the crowd's going nuts. You need somebody in the

956
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Speaker 3: center of that defense that can capably communicate to the

957
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Speaker 3: next guy and the next guy after that. Otherwise it

958
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Speaker 3: becomes a dangerous game of telephone. So that's kind of

959
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Speaker 3: where we come down on that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And I have the like a lot of faith

961
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Speaker 4: in the third round pick Dorian Williams from Tulane in

962
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Speaker 4: terms of his physical abilities. But what you just mentioned

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Speaker 4: is the one area that I don't want to say

964
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Speaker 4: I'm concerned with. But with Dorian Williams, I think we'll

965
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Speaker 4: take the longest for him to acclimate too. If he

966
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Speaker 4: is gonna play middle linebacker, it's gonna be making the calls,

967
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Speaker 4: lining everyone up. Is their motion? Is there an audible

968
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Speaker 4: by the offense? I think Edmund's got so good in

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Speaker 4: that regard, just with his experience. That is often what's

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Speaker 4: the hardest part about playing the linebacker position, not just

971
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Speaker 4: running and chasing the football or making plays in coverage.

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Speaker 3: We will step aside here when we come back in

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Speaker 3: our number two, we're gonna be joined by Jeffrey Chadiah.

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Speaker 3: I said that right. I think I did the first

975
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Speaker 3: time through. But we are going to talk about the

976
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Speaker 3: biggest contenders to dethrone. The chiefs in the AFC recently

977
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Speaker 3: put a piece together on that. We'll chat that up

978
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Speaker 3: with him based on how some of these rosters now

979
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Speaker 3: look heading into the twenty twenty three campaign. He'll be

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Speaker 3: with us in our number two here on One Bill's

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Speaker 3: Live presented by Colida Health.

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Speaker 2: It's Buffalo Bill's Radio, the One Bills Live presented by

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Speaker 2: Kalia Health. All Right, hour number two here on a Friday,

984
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Speaker 2: Chris Brown christiapassa with you. One Bills Live is the show.

985
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Speaker 3: Thank you for joining us and also joining us at

986
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Speaker 3: this point in time, please to have NFL Network reporter

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Speaker 3: and senior columnist.

988
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Speaker 2: Jeffrey Chudia joining us on the show.

989
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Speaker 3: And a couple of interesting pieces want to get him

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Speaker 3: on for and we'll dive right into those.

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Speaker 2: Jeffrey, First, thanks for taking the time, glad to have

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Speaker 2: you with us.

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Speaker 6: How you been I'm doing well. Thanks for having me on.

994
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Speaker 6: It's always a pleasure to be on with you guys.

995
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Speaker 3: Yeah, so you know, everybody's interested in dethroning the Chiefs

996
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:49,879
Speaker 3: that do not live in Kansas City, and you tried

997
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Speaker 3: to kind of handicap that. Now that the bulk of

998
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Speaker 3: off season roster construction is done, and you know you

999
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Speaker 3: listed some candidates, the Bills are on that list. I

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Speaker 3: want to start with the Bills, not because we're a

1001
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Speaker 3: Bill show only, but because I thought that you very

1002
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Speaker 3: astutely pointed out something that I think a lot of people,

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Speaker 3: maybe outside of the eight counties of Western New York.

1004
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Speaker 2: Are overlooking.

1005
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Speaker 3: And the Bills have very, in a very under the

1006
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Speaker 3: radar way, upgraded some key positions like the guard position

1007
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Speaker 3: up front with a lot of beef and the running

1008
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Speaker 3: back position. You know, moving on from Devin Singletary, who

1009
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Speaker 3: was a reliable guy but not a special player, if

1010
00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:35,480
Speaker 3: you will. And so you think about Damian Harris, you

1011
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:38,200
Speaker 3: think about Latavius Murray. There seems to be a decided

1012
00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:41,759
Speaker 3: aim there along with three guards who are going to

1013
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:44,000
Speaker 3: fight for starting roles that are all over three hundred

1014
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:44,960
Speaker 3: and twenty five pounds.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Well, and also you throw in the rookie tight end

1017
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Speaker 6: Dalton Kincaid as well. I think that they've definitely done

1018
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Speaker 6: some made some smart decisions in Brandon being obviously he's

1019
00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:58,080
Speaker 6: a very smart general manager and has built a very

1020
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Speaker 6: good roster. And you look at the things that were

1021
00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:04,080
Speaker 6: issued for them towards the end of last season, they

1022
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Speaker 6: really tried to go out and address that stuff. You know,

1023
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Speaker 6: you mentioned the offensive line, the running back position. I

1024
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Speaker 6: think getting Jordan puyerback was a huge thing for this defense.

1025
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Speaker 6: You know, you talked about some of the players they've

1026
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Speaker 6: lost on that side of the football, having Sean McDermott

1027
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Speaker 6: being able to take over play calling for Leslie Frazier

1028
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 6: as he steps away from from the game. And I

1029
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Speaker 6: feel like when I wrote that column, and I'm sure

1030
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Speaker 6: you get this, because the Bills have been a very

1031
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:30,719
Speaker 6: trendy pick to reach the Super Bowl and win it

1032
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:34,040
Speaker 6: for the last couple of years, that people forget they're

1033
00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:38,280
Speaker 6: still a good team. Window doesn't just close because Josh

1034
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:40,480
Speaker 6: Allen's off as rookie dial and they've lost a couple

1035
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Speaker 6: of players. The fact, in a lot of ways, they

1036
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Speaker 6: remind me a lot of the twenty nineteen sheets and

1037
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Speaker 6: that people were not thinking as highly of them as

1038
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Speaker 6: they should have, and that team ultimately won a championship.

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Speaker 4: Jeff, I want to stay in Kansas City's division. To me,

1040
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Speaker 4: I'm a big fan of Justin Herbert's game. I felt

1041
00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:01,680
Speaker 4: like he was in a way handicapped by that offensive

1042
00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:05,600
Speaker 4: system as offensive coordinator. What can you tell the listeners

1043
00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:09,040
Speaker 4: and the viewers about their new offensive coordinator Kellen Moore

1044
00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:13,120
Speaker 4: and really what an impact he could have on clearly

1045
00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:15,959
Speaker 4: one of the most just naturally talented quarterbacks in the league.

1046
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Speaker 6: Well, for my money, he is in a position to

1047
00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:23,000
Speaker 6: be the hottest head coaching candidate out there if he's

1048
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Speaker 6: able to turn Justin Herbert into the player that we

1049
00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:28,200
Speaker 6: all think he can be. I think we all e've

1050
00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:30,759
Speaker 6: all watched the Charges the last couple of years and

1051
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:34,040
Speaker 6: see them make some mistake, shoot themselves in the foot,

1052
00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:37,600
Speaker 6: not reach their full potential last year. Injuries were a

1053
00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:40,000
Speaker 6: big problem for them. But bringing a guy Kellen Moore,

1054
00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:42,920
Speaker 6: who you saw what he did with the Dallas Cowboys

1055
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Speaker 6: and Dak Prescott when they had their full supporting cast

1056
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Speaker 6: together Jmari Cooper's and Ceedee Lambs and Zeko Elliott at

1057
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Speaker 6: his prime. He has similar weapons in LA with Austin Eckler,

1058
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Speaker 6: with Keenan Allen, with Mike Williams. They drafted Quentin Johnston.

1059
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Speaker 6: Offensive line is good. So I'm excited to see what

1060
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Speaker 6: he does with this group because he is very creative,

1061
00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:08,840
Speaker 6: very innovative, really good to spray in the football around

1062
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Speaker 6: and he's in a place right now. He's got to

1063
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:13,160
Speaker 6: prove himself because when he left Dallas, there are a

1064
00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:16,000
Speaker 6: lot of people talking trash about him, and the same

1065
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Speaker 6: is true for Justin Herbert. Justin Herbert should be where

1066
00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 6: Josh Allen is, where Patrick Mahomes is, where Joe Burrow

1067
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Speaker 6: is because he has similar talent. He just hasn't been

1068
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Speaker 6: able to unlock it to his fullest potential yet.

1069
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Speaker 3: Jeff, I know you've covered this league long enough to

1070
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Speaker 3: remember Sean McDermott as a coordinator, and as you touched on,

1071
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Speaker 3: he is going to be calling.

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Speaker 2: The plays on that side of the ball for the Bills. Now.

1073
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Speaker 3: We've asked a number of people who have coached with

1074
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Speaker 3: him in the past if you could give us a

1075
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Speaker 3: word or two to describe Sean McDermott as a play caller,

1076
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Speaker 3: I would tell you ninety percent of them have used

1077
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Speaker 3: the word aggressive. So in your crystal ball way, maybe

1078
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Speaker 3: give us an interpretation of what you think that will

1079
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Speaker 3: mean for defense that I think we can all agree

1080
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:05,360
Speaker 3: scheme wise will largely remain the same. But what what

1081
00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:09,799
Speaker 3: kind of stamp does Sean McDermott aggressiveness mean for this unit?

1082
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Speaker 2: Do you believe?

1083
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Speaker 9: Well?

1084
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Speaker 6: I think one. I think when I here aggressive, I

1085
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Speaker 6: here pressure, I think about the way secondary plays, and

1086
00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:22,919
Speaker 6: let's face they took some again, I'm on a bill shows,

1087
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Speaker 6: I will defend them, and I say the same thing

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Speaker 6: with people who don't watch the Bills or root for

1089
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:30,560
Speaker 6: the Bills when your secondary is beat up, when you

1090
00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:33,239
Speaker 6: when you Micah Hyde's not there, when Jordan Poyer is

1091
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:36,640
Speaker 6: banged up, to Davis White is coming back from a

1092
00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:40,520
Speaker 6: major ACL injury obviously tomorrow Hamlin happened later in the season.

1093
00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:43,839
Speaker 6: I mean, that's hard to scheme up stuff, especially when

1094
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:45,840
Speaker 6: you lose a von Miller up front too. So I

1095
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:49,319
Speaker 6: think having won those pieces back in place and having

1096
00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:54,399
Speaker 6: that secondary to be solidified and stabilized will allow Sean

1097
00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:57,879
Speaker 6: McDermott to be far more aggressive as a play caller.

1098
00:54:57,880 --> 00:54:59,800
Speaker 6: And I'll have a ton of respect for Leslie Fraser.

1099
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:02,000
Speaker 6: But the one thing I will say when I watched

1100
00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:03,920
Speaker 6: that defense or at the end of the year, you

1101
00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:06,920
Speaker 6: saw the cumulative effect of what they had gone through.

1102
00:55:07,239 --> 00:55:10,920
Speaker 6: They did not look as fast or as impactful. And

1103
00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:13,000
Speaker 6: it wasn't just von Miller. I think when they played

1104
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:16,239
Speaker 6: the Bengals, they got, you know, snow or not. They

1105
00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:20,200
Speaker 6: saw what a really high level, highly athletic offense could

1106
00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:21,759
Speaker 6: do to them. And I think for me, it was

1107
00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:24,160
Speaker 6: astonishing the season because that defense has been so good.

1108
00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:26,839
Speaker 6: So I think having a complete offseason to look at

1109
00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:29,080
Speaker 6: what he has and to look at what happened towards

1110
00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:30,800
Speaker 6: the end of last year, we'll give Sean McDermott a

1111
00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:33,280
Speaker 6: great opportunity to come into this season with guns blazing

1112
00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:36,200
Speaker 6: and with you know, with that roster impact. Once von

1113
00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:40,600
Speaker 6: Miller gets going, that defense being at full gold, all right.

1114
00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:42,279
Speaker 4: I want to jump to the other side of the ball,

1115
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:47,160
Speaker 4: different team, Todd Monkin going from Georgia to the Baltimore Ravens.

1116
00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:49,120
Speaker 4: I mean the AFC East is loaded. I think the

1117
00:55:49,239 --> 00:55:52,080
Speaker 4: AFC North is also very loaded, just personnel wise with

1118
00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:56,320
Speaker 4: the quarterbacks. Me being an NFL draft guy first and foremost,

1119
00:55:56,440 --> 00:55:59,239
Speaker 4: I saw Georgia run the football a lot and they

1120
00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:02,319
Speaker 4: were just pulverizing teams over the last couple of years.

1121
00:56:02,440 --> 00:56:05,320
Speaker 4: With Modkin as a offensive coordinator, there's kind of a

1122
00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:08,000
Speaker 4: narrative this offseason that they're going to go from Greg

1123
00:56:08,080 --> 00:56:11,600
Speaker 4: Roman's offense to modkins offense and be more pass happy.

1124
00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:13,800
Speaker 4: Do you see that happening? And I guess kind of

1125
00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:17,600
Speaker 4: a similar question to Chris, what kind of stamp do

1126
00:56:17,640 --> 00:56:21,120
Speaker 4: you see this new offensive coordinator putting on this Lamar

1127
00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:21,920
Speaker 4: Jackson offense.

1128
00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:26,320
Speaker 6: I don't see them becoming pass heavy, you know, And

1129
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:28,839
Speaker 6: I agree with you, it's kind of interesting that Mankin

1130
00:56:28,920 --> 00:56:31,240
Speaker 6: has gotten this reputation like he's the next Mike March

1131
00:56:31,719 --> 00:56:34,680
Speaker 6: and he was a very high level thrower play caller

1132
00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:37,360
Speaker 6: in Tampa Bay when he was there with Jamis Winston.

1133
00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:39,359
Speaker 6: But I think what you'll see is a more diversified,

1134
00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:42,920
Speaker 6: a better all around, a more sophisticated passing game. And

1135
00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:45,360
Speaker 6: that was always the knock on Greg Roman that he

1136
00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:48,280
Speaker 6: was not able to get Lamar Jackson to that point.

1137
00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:50,880
Speaker 6: I'm a Greg Merman fans. My argument is that I

1138
00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:54,040
Speaker 6: think Lamar Jackson has taken small steps to get there,

1139
00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:58,080
Speaker 6: and so now we'll see if they really do have

1140
00:56:58,320 --> 00:57:00,680
Speaker 6: the ability to get him to be that kind of quarterback,

1141
00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:03,360
Speaker 6: because they've went out and spent on weapons like Odell

1142
00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:07,040
Speaker 6: Beckham Junior. They've drafted guys like Jay Flowers. I think

1143
00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:09,279
Speaker 6: taking Ja Flowers with that first round pick instead of

1144
00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:12,640
Speaker 6: a cornerback tells you where they're at as far as

1145
00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:14,920
Speaker 6: wanting to make sure Lamar Jackson is the face of

1146
00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:17,720
Speaker 6: this team and the heartbeat of the team. And this

1147
00:57:18,080 --> 00:57:21,600
Speaker 6: is an offense first team now. But I think we'll

1148
00:57:21,640 --> 00:57:25,240
Speaker 6: see Tom Monkin utilize all these people because Mark Andrews

1149
00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:27,680
Speaker 6: are still a good player. JK. Dobbins is a heck

1150
00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:30,560
Speaker 6: of a running back. Rasha Bateman is still there, and

1151
00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:33,160
Speaker 6: so they've got a lot of They've got the best

1152
00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:36,600
Speaker 6: supporting cast around Lamar Jackson that he's ever had. Now

1153
00:57:36,680 --> 00:57:39,400
Speaker 6: it's on him and Todd Monkin to get them play

1154
00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:40,240
Speaker 6: up to their potential.

1155
00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:44,520
Speaker 2: Jeffery in New York, Nathaniel Hackett will.

1156
00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:47,680
Speaker 3: Be under the weekly microscope of the New York media,

1157
00:57:47,720 --> 00:57:49,400
Speaker 3: which I don't have to tell you is as quick

1158
00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:52,600
Speaker 3: to pounds as any media group in the country. And

1159
00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:56,200
Speaker 3: you know that as soon as there is a negative result,

1160
00:57:57,120 --> 00:58:01,520
Speaker 3: questions will be raised and they'll go immediately back to

1161
00:58:01,640 --> 00:58:04,440
Speaker 3: recency bias and what went wrong in Denver last year

1162
00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:08,280
Speaker 3: with another superstar quarterback in Russell Wilson. So how do

1163
00:58:08,360 --> 00:58:10,840
Speaker 3: you how do you see And I know you painted

1164
00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:13,160
Speaker 3: it in a positive light, you called it Nathaniel Hackett's

1165
00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:16,440
Speaker 3: redemption Tour, But how do you how do you see

1166
00:58:16,600 --> 00:58:19,640
Speaker 3: Nathaniel Hackett navigating that if there's a couple of weeks

1167
00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:21,960
Speaker 3: that are a little bit of a rough patch for

1168
00:58:22,080 --> 00:58:23,200
Speaker 3: that team and that offense.

1169
00:58:24,560 --> 00:58:26,680
Speaker 6: Well, yeah, I think for me, and you've raised the

1170
00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:28,720
Speaker 6: point that I raised, which is that he still has

1171
00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:32,440
Speaker 6: that stense of Russell Wilson's demise on him from from Denver.

1172
00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:36,280
Speaker 6: That's going to fuel that. But I think Nathaniel Hackett

1173
00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:39,120
Speaker 6: is a smart enough guy. Let me prove this with

1174
00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:42,280
Speaker 6: the Green Bay Packers, that he understands his job is

1175
00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:45,800
Speaker 6: not to be a genius with Aaron Rodgers as a quarterback.

1176
00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:48,800
Speaker 6: It's to make Aaron Rodgers be comfortable. And that's, you know,

1177
00:58:48,840 --> 00:58:50,480
Speaker 6: as much as the Jets trying to to, you know,

1178
00:58:50,600 --> 00:58:52,680
Speaker 6: try to dismiss that as a part of going on

1179
00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:56,000
Speaker 6: hiring him, he's there for that reason. He has a

1180
00:58:56,080 --> 00:58:58,960
Speaker 6: bond with Aaron Rodgers. Aaron Rodgers, we all know I

1181
00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:02,360
Speaker 6: from Afar as a very interesting personality and can be

1182
00:59:02,480 --> 00:59:04,479
Speaker 6: very hard to deal with and get sideway with people

1183
00:59:04,640 --> 00:59:09,120
Speaker 6: very easily. And so I think when Nathaniel Hackett was

1184
00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:13,360
Speaker 6: in Green Bay he was the buffer between Matt Lafleur

1185
00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:17,800
Speaker 6: and Aaron Rodgers. Here he will be in a similar role,

1186
00:59:18,240 --> 00:59:22,680
Speaker 6: but more as a confidant, more as a supporter, more

1187
00:59:22,680 --> 00:59:24,400
Speaker 6: as a guy who's going to be able to fuel

1188
00:59:24,520 --> 00:59:26,960
Speaker 6: him and be honest with you. Probably take some of

1189
00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:31,000
Speaker 6: those bullets when things aren't going great, because you look

1190
00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:34,760
Speaker 6: at Tampa Bay when Tom Brady showed up, people forget

1191
00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:36,520
Speaker 6: that they were seven and five at one point. People

1192
00:59:36,560 --> 00:59:38,200
Speaker 6: were wondering if they were going to make the playoffs.

1193
00:59:38,640 --> 00:59:40,440
Speaker 6: They want to win the championship that year. But they

1194
00:59:40,480 --> 00:59:42,920
Speaker 6: went through some tough times in some adversity, and there

1195
00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:44,600
Speaker 6: will be some of that in Green Bay, and that's

1196
00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:46,600
Speaker 6: when Nathaniel Hackett will have to earn his money.

1197
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Speaker 4: Last question for me, it's kind of a flip side

1198
00:59:50,080 --> 00:59:52,360
Speaker 4: of what I talked about earlier, Kellen Moore going from

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00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:56,560
Speaker 4: the Cowboys to the Chargers. Now Brian Schottenheimer takes over

1200
00:59:56,680 --> 00:59:58,880
Speaker 4: as the offensive coordinator in Delis. You have the Cowboys

1201
00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:02,160
Speaker 4: listed as at number six as a team that could

1202
01:00:02,520 --> 01:00:05,840
Speaker 4: potentially unseat the Chiefs to win the Super Bowl. No doubt,

1203
01:00:05,920 --> 01:00:09,720
Speaker 4: the Cowboys have insane amount of superstar talent with Trevron

1204
01:00:09,840 --> 01:00:12,560
Speaker 4: Diggs and now they bring in Stefan Gilmour and Brandon Cooks.

1205
01:00:12,600 --> 01:00:15,520
Speaker 4: Michael Parsons, what do you think this means for Dak

1206
01:00:15,560 --> 01:00:17,880
Speaker 4: Prescott that is kind of coming off somewhat of a

1207
01:00:18,520 --> 01:00:21,360
Speaker 4: shaky or not Dak like twenty twenty two.

1208
01:00:23,640 --> 01:00:26,200
Speaker 6: What it means from where I sit is he can

1209
01:00:26,600 --> 01:00:29,280
Speaker 6: relax and play a little more easier and I'd have

1210
01:00:29,360 --> 01:00:32,880
Speaker 6: to do as much. And this is a similar situation

1211
01:00:33,080 --> 01:00:35,560
Speaker 6: what I see with Josh Allen in Buffalo, where guys

1212
01:00:35,760 --> 01:00:38,120
Speaker 6: as talented as this sometimes want to do a lot

1213
01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:41,520
Speaker 6: of things to help their team win and sometimes just

1214
01:00:41,680 --> 01:00:44,240
Speaker 6: doing a little bit less. Patrick Mahomes, where I live

1215
01:00:44,240 --> 01:00:47,000
Speaker 6: in Kansas City, had a similar problem being able to

1216
01:00:47,080 --> 01:00:48,760
Speaker 6: rely on the players of ryan you to do their

1217
01:00:48,840 --> 01:00:52,200
Speaker 6: thing and take some of the pressure off you. And

1218
01:00:52,320 --> 01:00:55,360
Speaker 6: so I feel like I like Dallas a lot because

1219
01:00:56,280 --> 01:00:59,200
Speaker 6: they were willing to address the issues you know, the

1220
01:00:59,240 --> 01:01:02,000
Speaker 6: gorillas in their them last year that really undid their

1221
01:01:02,440 --> 01:01:06,240
Speaker 6: their season. They recognized that, you know, it's time Forrazygla

1222
01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:08,600
Speaker 6: to go and Tony Power to step into that role.

1223
01:01:09,160 --> 01:01:12,760
Speaker 6: We can't just rely on the other guys around Ceedee Lamb.

1224
01:01:12,800 --> 01:01:14,880
Speaker 6: We need somebody to come in here and separate and

1225
01:01:15,080 --> 01:01:17,800
Speaker 6: stretch the defense in the way it needs to be stretched.

1226
01:01:17,800 --> 01:01:20,920
Speaker 6: You know, we need to have another really good corner

1227
01:01:21,400 --> 01:01:23,720
Speaker 6: across from Trey Von Diggs, because you saw what happened

1228
01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:26,360
Speaker 6: to that defense when they lost some key players all

1229
01:01:26,400 --> 01:01:27,840
Speaker 6: of a sudden. It was they were getting attacked on

1230
01:01:27,840 --> 01:01:29,800
Speaker 6: the other side of the field away from him and

1231
01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:33,680
Speaker 6: giving up big plays. And so all these things are

1232
01:01:33,800 --> 01:01:36,400
Speaker 6: going to help this team play better because they're in

1233
01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:40,040
Speaker 6: the division they're in. NFC is clearly not as strong

1234
01:01:40,080 --> 01:01:43,280
Speaker 6: as the AFC, but that division within the NFC is

1235
01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:46,840
Speaker 6: really tough. In Philadelphia got better in the offseason. The

1236
01:01:46,960 --> 01:01:49,440
Speaker 6: Giants are still going to be a difficult team to

1237
01:01:49,480 --> 01:01:51,840
Speaker 6: deal with, and Washington is a sneaky team, a team

1238
01:01:51,880 --> 01:01:53,640
Speaker 6: that can come up and bite you when was fighting

1239
01:01:53,720 --> 01:01:55,400
Speaker 6: for a playoff spot towards the end as well. So

1240
01:01:56,160 --> 01:01:58,160
Speaker 6: I feel like they're going to be a better team

1241
01:01:58,320 --> 01:02:01,320
Speaker 6: just because they're being odys with themselves, look at themselves

1242
01:02:01,360 --> 01:02:04,080
Speaker 6: in a mirror and recognizing that the things that hurt

1243
01:02:04,120 --> 01:02:06,360
Speaker 6: them last year cannot be the things that hurt them

1244
01:02:06,440 --> 01:02:06,800
Speaker 6: this year.

1245
01:02:07,360 --> 01:02:09,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, and those are all teams that are going to

1246
01:02:09,160 --> 01:02:10,880
Speaker 3: be on the bill schedule this year as they play

1247
01:02:10,920 --> 01:02:14,080
Speaker 3: the NFC East. And the Eagles are intriguing to me

1248
01:02:14,200 --> 01:02:17,360
Speaker 3: because they did not just lose one coordinator, they lost two.

1249
01:02:18,720 --> 01:02:21,640
Speaker 3: I know, Siriani basically calls the shots on offense, so

1250
01:02:21,720 --> 01:02:24,600
Speaker 3: maybe that's a little bit mitigated by that, but still

1251
01:02:24,640 --> 01:02:27,880
Speaker 3: in all, it's a transition, nonetheless. And look, I'll be

1252
01:02:27,920 --> 01:02:29,400
Speaker 3: the first to admit that the Eagles got to have

1253
01:02:29,520 --> 01:02:32,840
Speaker 3: one of the best rosters in football, but there is

1254
01:02:32,920 --> 01:02:37,240
Speaker 3: a transition nonetheless, based on those kinds of transitions that

1255
01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:40,600
Speaker 3: you've seen over the course of your time covering this league. Jeffrey,

1256
01:02:41,640 --> 01:02:45,320
Speaker 3: what do you think is realistic for them to look

1257
01:02:45,480 --> 01:02:48,360
Speaker 3: like this, the well oiled machine that they did for

1258
01:02:48,520 --> 01:02:52,040
Speaker 3: most of last season. How soon does that happen for them,

1259
01:02:52,720 --> 01:02:54,840
Speaker 3: you know, going into this year to take a week,

1260
01:02:54,960 --> 01:02:55,960
Speaker 3: two weeks an.

1261
01:02:55,880 --> 01:02:58,560
Speaker 6: A little bit. Yeah, Well, well, you look at their

1262
01:02:58,640 --> 01:03:02,080
Speaker 6: schedule and not just Buffalo, but they're playing pretty much

1263
01:03:02,160 --> 01:03:05,040
Speaker 6: every team that is favored to win the championship, and

1264
01:03:05,360 --> 01:03:08,320
Speaker 6: four or five other teams that were in the playoffs here,

1265
01:03:08,400 --> 01:03:11,920
Speaker 6: so there are no no lightweights on that schedule. And

1266
01:03:12,560 --> 01:03:15,200
Speaker 6: and you mentioned the coordinators are a big thing. And

1267
01:03:15,760 --> 01:03:18,240
Speaker 6: again you look at what happened in Buffalo when Brian

1268
01:03:18,320 --> 01:03:21,200
Speaker 6: Babol left town. I mean, still a good team, Josh

1269
01:03:21,240 --> 01:03:23,360
Speaker 6: Allen's still a really good quarterback, but there was a

1270
01:03:23,400 --> 01:03:26,560
Speaker 6: transition there with with Ken Dorsey calledon plays and there

1271
01:03:26,600 --> 01:03:29,400
Speaker 6: were some some rough patches there. So I would expect

1272
01:03:29,440 --> 01:03:32,600
Speaker 6: the same thing would be happening in Philadelphia. Now they've

1273
01:03:32,680 --> 01:03:35,800
Speaker 6: got Brian Johnson, who was their quarterback coach, was very

1274
01:03:35,800 --> 01:03:38,520
Speaker 6: close to Jalen Hurts, who's been in some of the

1275
01:03:38,600 --> 01:03:40,840
Speaker 6: same places as Shane stich At and Nick Sirianni. So

1276
01:03:40,880 --> 01:03:43,880
Speaker 6: there's some comfort there, you know. But you know they've

1277
01:03:43,960 --> 01:03:46,720
Speaker 6: done well drafting. You know they got baby. They obviously

1278
01:03:46,800 --> 01:03:49,919
Speaker 6: hit the mother load on draft Day getting Jalen Carter

1279
01:03:50,040 --> 01:03:52,800
Speaker 6: and Nolan Smith, and they going to trade for DeAndre Swift.

1280
01:03:53,440 --> 01:03:57,400
Speaker 6: But it's still it's a new team. And as anybody

1281
01:03:57,480 --> 01:03:59,360
Speaker 6: who's been to a Super Bowl will tell you, once

1282
01:03:59,440 --> 01:04:01,280
Speaker 6: you've been there and you're coming back to next year,

1283
01:04:01,320 --> 01:04:03,800
Speaker 6: the worst thing you can think, especially with younger players,

1284
01:04:03,880 --> 01:04:06,120
Speaker 6: that it's going to happen every year, and so yeah,

1285
01:04:06,120 --> 01:04:08,280
Speaker 6: I do think they're going to have to figure out

1286
01:04:08,320 --> 01:04:11,600
Speaker 6: how to make things work and how to adjust news situations.

1287
01:04:11,640 --> 01:04:15,480
Speaker 6: But key thing here holding on to veterans like Jason

1288
01:04:15,560 --> 01:04:19,000
Speaker 6: Kelce and Darius Slay and Brandon Graham. That's a culture move.

1289
01:04:19,560 --> 01:04:21,760
Speaker 6: Keeping those veterans in the locker room. What's like Jordan

1290
01:04:21,840 --> 01:04:24,800
Speaker 6: Woor coming back to Buffalo. Those guys set the agenda

1291
01:04:24,960 --> 01:04:27,360
Speaker 6: and that will help them try to compete and get

1292
01:04:27,400 --> 01:04:28,520
Speaker 6: back to the super Bowl this year.

1293
01:04:29,520 --> 01:04:31,560
Speaker 2: Jeffery, thanks for the insight. We appreciate it.

1294
01:04:31,600 --> 01:04:34,000
Speaker 3: We'll continue to look for your work at NFL dot com.

1295
01:04:34,080 --> 01:04:35,560
Speaker 3: We'll catch up with you down the line and enjoy

1296
01:04:35,600 --> 01:04:36,000
Speaker 3: your summer.

1297
01:04:37,120 --> 01:04:39,000
Speaker 6: Thanks a lot, guys, I was always a pleasure. I

1298
01:04:39,040 --> 01:04:40,000
Speaker 6: appreciate it, all right.

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Speaker 3: That's NFL Network reporter senior columnist Jeffrey Chadia joining us.

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Speaker 3: Had some interesting analysis on NFL dot Com. Wanted to

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Speaker 3: get him on, and you know, he's probably bang on

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Speaker 3: with a lot of what he laid out, not only

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Speaker 3: in terms of assistant coaches that are going to be

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Speaker 3: under the microscope in new roles this year. Daniel Hackett,

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Speaker 3: Kellen Moore. We went through some of them with him.

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Speaker 3: There's transition going on in a lot of places with

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Speaker 3: some high profile teams the Eagles, as I just mentioned,

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Speaker 3: with Jeffrey an OC and a new DC that takes

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Speaker 3: time to fit it all together. We were talking about

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Speaker 3: this all summer last year. No one Ken Dorsey was

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Speaker 3: inheriting the offensive controls. Yes, the offense is probably still

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Speaker 3: going to be good, it's probably still going to be productive,

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Speaker 3: but it's still going to be different because it's a

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Speaker 3: different person calling.

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Speaker 2: The plays, and no two play callers are the same.

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Speaker 4: And in the case for the Bills, for the Eagles

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Speaker 4: with Brian Johnson, I guess not the case with Kellen

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Speaker 4: Moore because he's called the plays. These are first time

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Speaker 4: play callers in the NFL. And at the end there

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Speaker 4: Jeffrey was talking about that it just for the entire team.

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Speaker 4: It's going to take time to adjust to different situations,

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Speaker 4: new things happening. Brian Dabo when he would get in

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Speaker 4: a third and fifteen back in his own end, he's like, oh,

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Speaker 4: I've done this fifteen, twenty thirty times before. Ken Dorsey

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Speaker 4: was the first time doing that last season. So I

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Speaker 4: think to your point, whether it's the Eagles, whether it's

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Speaker 4: the Cowboys, whether it's whatever, these teams that have new

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Speaker 4: coordinators that it's smart to not try to judge them

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Speaker 4: concretely in September or even October. He mentioned that the

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Speaker 4: twenty twenty Bucks were seven to five and they went

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Speaker 4: on to win the Super Bowl. New pieces, new quarterback.

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Speaker 4: It's all about peaking at the right time. I think

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Speaker 4: we talked about this on the show a lot. The

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Speaker 4: Bills didn't quite get there in terms of peaking at

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Speaker 4: the correct time, and that's why I think a lot

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Speaker 4: of the September and October analysis kind of falls flat

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Speaker 4: because it takes time to ultimately acclimate and figure out

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Speaker 4: what works and what doesn't.

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Speaker 3: In a way, it's it's kind of a shame that

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Speaker 3: the Bills don't play the Eagles until December.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's bad enough you got to play him

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Speaker 2: on the road.

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Speaker 3: It might be nice to get a team like that

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Speaker 3: that's going through that kind of transition on the docket

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Speaker 3: in September where you can sneak up on them. The

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Speaker 3: Jets are a candidate for that, obviously in Week one,

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Speaker 3: when that hype machine is going to be at a

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Speaker 3: fevered pitch in September and the expectations are going to

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Speaker 3: be through the roof. You know, I'm not complaining about

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Speaker 3: the schedule. It's just in an ideal world, if you

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Speaker 3: can get the Eagles early instead of late, that might

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Speaker 3: be a beneficial thing. And the other thing about the

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Speaker 3: Eagles and Steve and I have talked about this mostly

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Speaker 3: through the course of last season, that was a team

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Speaker 3: that experienced very little adversity last year.

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Speaker 4: Super healthy, super.

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Speaker 3: Healthy, schedule, favorable in a number of instances, not just

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Speaker 3: in terms of who they were playing, but they had

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Speaker 3: a handful of opponents that they had to face that

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Speaker 3: we're dealing with, injuries that happened the week prior or

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Speaker 3: in the week that they played them. The NFC Championship

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Speaker 3: game obviously stands out the most. When two quarterbacks go

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Speaker 3: out in the same dang game and you got McCaffrey

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Speaker 3: running around like a quarterback at the end.

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Speaker 2: That was ridiculous.

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Speaker 3: It was, But that was some of the stuff that

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Speaker 3: they experienced all year. Like it was one of those hey,

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Speaker 3: it's all falling in place for you, you better make

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Speaker 3: it count, you know. And then they had a couple

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Speaker 3: unfortunate plays in the Super Bowl and they lose a

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Speaker 3: tight game.

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Speaker 4: That's a good point. I almost feel like that in

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Speaker 4: today's NFL, with how much parody there is, how many

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Speaker 4: good quarterbacks there are, you almost need that to happen

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Speaker 4: to get to a super Bowl, even the Chiefs. I

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Speaker 4: always thought watching that Super Bowl that the one team

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Speaker 4: that the Chiefs probably wanted no part of in the

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Speaker 4: playoffs was the Chargers. The Chargers were up thirty one

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Speaker 4: to nothing at half over the Jaguars, ready to go

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Speaker 4: to Arrowhead where they had won, where they always play

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Speaker 4: the Chiefs.

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Speaker 2: Still your team, not intimidated by.

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Speaker 4: Them exactly, and then they have the collapse and they

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Speaker 4: ultimately get the Jaguars over the Chargers. I think for

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Speaker 4: any team over the last ten or so years, look

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Speaker 4: back at their run to the Super Bowl, it's not

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Speaker 4: a always is super arduous. They just beat every amazing team.

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Speaker 4: You have to get those breaks here and there, with

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Speaker 4: injuries with your opponent, with the weather, things like that.

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Speaker 4: So I think that's just a good thing to bring up.

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Speaker 3: There are I mean, there are a few generational type

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Speaker 3: teams where it doesn't matter who they play, whether you're

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Speaker 3: talking about the eighty four nine Ers, the eighty five Bears,

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Speaker 3: you know, teams like the two thousand Ravens teams like that.

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Speaker 3: But yes, more often than not, you're right. There is

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Speaker 3: usually some other team in the conference playoff caliber, maybe

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Speaker 3: even championship caliber, and for some reason they stumble in

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Speaker 3: a given week and now you're not facing the opponent

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Speaker 3: you thought, and now.

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Speaker 2: You have a much easier road to the super Bowl.

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Speaker 3: And you could argue that for the Chiefs last year

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Speaker 3: by virtue of having to face Jacksonville instead of a

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Speaker 3: division opponent that was not going to be intimidated in

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Speaker 3: the least.

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Speaker 2: By the Chiefs in the LA Chargers.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, it was a favorable outcome for the Chiefs

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Speaker 3: come the divisional round.

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Speaker 2: No question about it.

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Speaker 7: Uh.

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Speaker 3: We are still taking questions at eight h three oh

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Speaker 3: five fifty one eight eight five fifty two, five point

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Speaker 3: fifty number to get on board for obl fan Friday mailbag.

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Speaker 3: We will get to some more those questions as well

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Speaker 3: as we move along in the show. Did want to

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Speaker 3: touch on a couple of things that Chris put together

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Speaker 3: at cbssports dot com. You were ranking the ten let

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Speaker 3: me get the no, I want to get this title

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Speaker 3: exactly right. Second year quarterbacks ranked him. There were a

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Speaker 3: couple of picks in here that I kind of chuckled

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Speaker 3: that a little bit, to be quite honest with you, Like,

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Speaker 3: you're not gonna happen category.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Malik Willis, this.

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Speaker 4: Was quarterbacks to take a leap in year two, right,

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Speaker 4: And you.

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Speaker 3: Know Sam Howell's going to get the keys to the

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Speaker 3: car at least at the outset here in Washington. So

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Speaker 3: is Desmond Rinder in Atlanta. I'm not saying that Washington's

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Speaker 3: devoid of talent by any means, but man, there were

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Speaker 3: a lot of fun toys in Atlanta for Desmond Ritter.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's all around him for sure.

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Speaker 4: Think about this. They picked an offensive skill position player

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Speaker 4: in three consecutive drafts inside the top Kyle Pitts, Drake London,

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Speaker 4: and b John Robinson. So if you're a young quarterback

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Speaker 4: and you're taking the keys, you have to feel like, hey,

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Speaker 4: I don't have to do that much. I can hand

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Speaker 4: the ball off to B John Robinson. There's Kyle Pitts

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Speaker 4: over the middle, There's Drake London over the middle. And

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Speaker 4: now they have kind of figured out some of their

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Speaker 4: cap issues. They're what third year of their new GM

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Speaker 4: Terry Fonteau. They were able to add some pieces some

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Speaker 4: veterans Kalais Campbell up front on defense that he doesn't

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Speaker 4: necessarily need to be at Josh Allen or Patrick Mahomes

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Speaker 4: type can just be that classic game manager and that

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Speaker 4: NFC South is not very good. You could win that

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Speaker 4: division at eight to nine and be hosting a playoff game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not a good division at all.

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Speaker 3: The guy that intrigues me the most is brock Perty

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Speaker 3: because we just saw the report yesterday.

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Speaker 2: Steve and I were talking about it. He's throwing already.

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Speaker 7: Wow.

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Speaker 3: He did not have the Tommy John surgery. He had

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Speaker 3: a less invasive surgery. I want to say it's called

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Speaker 3: Brace surgery of I hope I have that name right,

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Speaker 3: where the recovery time is significantly shorter because I guess

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Speaker 3: he did not have a full UCL tear.

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Speaker 2: So Tommy John was not mandatory. He had a choice.

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Speaker 3: When they went in there, they saw the damage was

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Speaker 3: not as extensive as they had feared.

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Speaker 2: So he's on the fast track.

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Speaker 3: They're saying he might be ready to start throwing like

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Speaker 3: with the team in training camp, which is I mean,

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Speaker 3: I don't think anybody foresaw that. And knowing that and

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Speaker 3: then you hear John Lynch talking the GM of the

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Speaker 3: of the Niners. He's talking like he said, he's the

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Speaker 3: leader in the clubhouse.

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Speaker 2: And I understand why.

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Speaker 3: I mean, don't get me wrong, but it's just fascinating

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Speaker 3: to think about mister Irrelevant as the starting quarterback in

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Speaker 3: San fran instead of the third pick in the draft.

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Speaker 2: It's just it blows my mind.

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Speaker 4: And two third picks in the draft trade Lance and

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Speaker 4: Sam Darnel, and both of which take your pick, yeah,

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Speaker 4: both of which the teams that selected them, one of

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Speaker 4: which was the forty nine ers of course in twenty

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Speaker 4: twenty one, traded up to get those quarterbacks. When you

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Speaker 4: have the last pick in the draft, that's funny to

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Speaker 4: me as a draft guy. He want to spend all

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Speaker 4: this time watching film, diving into the analytics, and then

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Speaker 4: the last pick in the draft operated the Kyle Shanahan

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Speaker 4: offense as well as really Matt Ryan in his MVP

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Speaker 4: caliber season.

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Speaker 3: But what do you think he does in year two?

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Speaker 3: Because he played enough in year one where there is

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Speaker 3: a book on him.

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Speaker 4: Now, yeah, I don't see him playing as efficiently as

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Speaker 4: he did. But I do not want to bet against

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Speaker 4: Kyle Shanahan and the talent they have on the offensive side.

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Speaker 4: There's really never been a time that Kyle Shanahan's been

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Speaker 4: calling the plays in the NFL, whether it goes all

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Speaker 4: the way back to his time as the offensive coordinator

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Speaker 4: in Houston with Matt schab To in Cleveland, he was

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Speaker 4: getting the most out of Brian Hoyer that he's had

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Speaker 4: a quarterback that's just really, really bad. I do think though,

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Speaker 4: over time, the physical limitations for brock Purty will kind

1495
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Speaker 4: of rear their ugly head and kind of say, hey, look,

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Speaker 4: he can't make those big time throws. You can't solely

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Speaker 4: lean on Deebo Samuel and Brandon Ayuk and George Kittle,

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Speaker 4: although that is a pretty good trio to have where

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Speaker 4: you can throw that five yard slant and get a

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Speaker 4: fifteen or twenty yard gain. So I think we will

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Speaker 4: see him take a step back, But I don't think

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Speaker 4: we'll suddenly start to see brock Purty looking like the

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Speaker 4: last pick in the draft.

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Speaker 3: Now, the last guy who was ranked highest on your

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Speaker 3: list is Kenny Pickett, and I know there's still a

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Speaker 3: pretty divided opinion for Sean Kenny Pickett. I just think

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Speaker 3: because of the team he is with, he will succeed.

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01:14:32,240 --> 01:14:34,800
Speaker 3: It's one of the most stable franchises in all of

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Speaker 3: pro sports, and I think what they have done this

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01:14:38,760 --> 01:14:41,559
Speaker 3: offseason has gone very much under the radar. I thought

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Speaker 3: the Steelers had a great free agency, maybe even a

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Speaker 3: better draft, and there is talent around Kenny Pickett that

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Speaker 3: is pretty comparable, at least in my opinion, to what

1514
01:14:54,479 --> 01:14:57,360
Speaker 3: the Falcons have assembled. They're not top ten picks, but

1515
01:14:57,439 --> 01:15:02,160
Speaker 3: they're productive players, consist players, and that's what the Steelers are.

1516
01:15:02,240 --> 01:15:05,839
Speaker 3: They're a consistent organization. They draft consistent players, they acquire

1517
01:15:05,920 --> 01:15:09,479
Speaker 3: consistent players. I mean, I've already said I think the

1518
01:15:09,479 --> 01:15:11,679
Speaker 3: Steelers are gonna be a playoff team this year, which

1519
01:15:11,920 --> 01:15:15,160
Speaker 3: may sound crazy in a stacked AFC North, but I

1520
01:15:15,240 --> 01:15:17,479
Speaker 3: think they get in as a wild card this year,

1521
01:15:17,600 --> 01:15:18,719
Speaker 3: even in a stacked division.

1522
01:15:18,880 --> 01:15:20,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think that's crazy. And I think it

1523
01:15:20,640 --> 01:15:23,160
Speaker 4: kind of ties back to the Bills because the Steelers

1524
01:15:23,280 --> 01:15:26,160
Speaker 4: being back on the rise again is legitimate competition for

1525
01:15:26,200 --> 01:15:29,559
Speaker 4: the Bengals, for the Ravens. And what you pointed out,

1526
01:15:30,000 --> 01:15:31,760
Speaker 4: and actually you said it to me off air, that

1527
01:15:32,040 --> 01:15:34,360
Speaker 4: Mike Tomlin is probably one of the few coaches in

1528
01:15:34,400 --> 01:15:37,240
Speaker 4: the NFL that's good for a win or two just

1529
01:15:37,320 --> 01:15:40,200
Speaker 4: for his team, just based on his leadership, his in

1530
01:15:40,400 --> 01:15:43,599
Speaker 4: game management, all of that to get that team last

1531
01:15:43,640 --> 01:15:46,040
Speaker 4: year to nine and eight was to me, borderline incredible.

1532
01:15:46,520 --> 01:15:48,920
Speaker 4: Down the stretch the last eight games. Kenny Pickett only

1533
01:15:48,960 --> 01:15:51,559
Speaker 4: had one turnover, not a lot of big time throws.

1534
01:15:51,640 --> 01:15:54,680
Speaker 4: Wasn't taking that rookie year leap, but you saw flashes

1535
01:15:54,800 --> 01:15:57,679
Speaker 4: and it kind of was reminiscent to me of down

1536
01:15:57,760 --> 01:15:59,880
Speaker 4: the stretch in Josh Allen's rookie year. We're early on

1537
01:16:00,160 --> 01:16:02,720
Speaker 4: it was not very good, but down the stretch in

1538
01:16:02,760 --> 01:16:05,799
Speaker 4: those two Dolphins games, in the home win against the Lions,

1539
01:16:06,200 --> 01:16:08,639
Speaker 4: you saw some of those big time throws from Josh Allen.

1540
01:16:08,960 --> 01:16:11,320
Speaker 4: Kenny Pickett had that. You have Najie Harris in the backfield,

1541
01:16:11,360 --> 01:16:15,880
Speaker 4: Pat Fryarmouth. They drafted Pickens. Pickens I think is gonna

1542
01:16:15,880 --> 01:16:18,920
Speaker 4: be a borderline superstar this season. They drafted Darnell Washington

1543
01:16:18,960 --> 01:16:23,160
Speaker 4: from Georgia. They picked left tackle Broderick Jones right ahead

1544
01:16:23,160 --> 01:16:25,679
Speaker 4: of the Jets in the draft. So I think they're

1545
01:16:25,760 --> 01:16:27,799
Speaker 4: doing things the right way. And to your point earlier,

1546
01:16:28,200 --> 01:16:31,880
Speaker 4: it's not surprising because the Steelers have been so consistent

1547
01:16:32,360 --> 01:16:35,519
Speaker 4: from Chuck Knox to Bill Kauer to Mike Tomlin, Kenny

1548
01:16:35,560 --> 01:16:37,720
Speaker 4: Pickett to me, is the most likely to take that leap,

1549
01:16:37,760 --> 01:16:41,439
Speaker 4: and that adds just another high caliber team in what

1550
01:16:41,640 --> 01:16:43,880
Speaker 4: is a completely loaded AFC.

1551
01:16:44,560 --> 01:16:45,720
Speaker 2: We're gonna take a break here.

1552
01:16:46,040 --> 01:16:48,400
Speaker 3: When we come back, we'll get back to the OBL

1553
01:16:48,680 --> 01:16:51,320
Speaker 3: Friday fan mail bag to answer some of your more

1554
01:16:51,400 --> 01:16:55,040
Speaker 3: pressing Bills questions. We'll do that after this break here

1555
01:16:55,080 --> 01:16:57,439
Speaker 3: on One Bill's Live, presented by Klaida hell Fit's Buffalo

1556
01:16:57,520 --> 01:17:16,840
Speaker 3: Bills Radio. All right back here on One Bill's Live,

1557
01:17:16,920 --> 01:17:20,280
Speaker 3: Chris Brown, Chris Chrapasso with you, and time to crack

1558
01:17:20,360 --> 01:17:23,320
Speaker 3: open the OBL mail bag once again here as we

1559
01:17:23,439 --> 01:17:27,559
Speaker 3: do every Friday. And since we already addressed the veteran

1560
01:17:27,640 --> 01:17:31,120
Speaker 3: pass rusher topic, Barry forgive us. We're gonna skip over

1561
01:17:31,200 --> 01:17:34,000
Speaker 3: your question because we basically said, if we had to

1562
01:17:34,080 --> 01:17:36,479
Speaker 3: choose between d Hopper Frank Clark, we probably take a

1563
01:17:36,560 --> 01:17:40,120
Speaker 3: veteran pass rusher. So, in the effort to not be redundant,

1564
01:17:40,200 --> 01:17:42,880
Speaker 3: we move on to Amy, who asks, with the new

1565
01:17:43,160 --> 01:17:46,080
Speaker 3: rule change to kickoffs, how do you think this will

1566
01:17:46,120 --> 01:17:48,400
Speaker 3: affect the overall roster? If there's likely to be more

1567
01:17:48,479 --> 01:17:50,719
Speaker 3: fair catches, will the need for coverage? Guys, be less

1568
01:17:50,760 --> 01:17:53,800
Speaker 3: and those spots open up depth to other positions like

1569
01:17:53,960 --> 01:17:54,960
Speaker 3: O line or D line.

1570
01:17:55,000 --> 01:17:57,439
Speaker 2: It's a great question to love this question.

1571
01:17:58,680 --> 01:18:03,680
Speaker 3: I think it's going to pen largely on what the

1572
01:18:03,880 --> 01:18:10,439
Speaker 3: chosen strategy is for your team's special teams coordinator. If

1573
01:18:10,479 --> 01:18:14,200
Speaker 3: they believe they can employ a strategy that can allow

1574
01:18:14,360 --> 01:18:18,439
Speaker 3: them to still hold teams short of the twenty five

1575
01:18:18,560 --> 01:18:22,680
Speaker 3: yard line with regularity, with some kind of coverage and

1576
01:18:22,880 --> 01:18:27,160
Speaker 3: kickoff workaround, then the answer is no. I don't think

1577
01:18:27,200 --> 01:18:30,599
Speaker 3: they sacrifice positions, especially here in Buffalo, where I think

1578
01:18:30,640 --> 01:18:34,799
Speaker 3: we can all safely say that Sean McDermott values special teams.

1579
01:18:35,479 --> 01:18:37,559
Speaker 3: There will be some other teams, though, I think around

1580
01:18:37,600 --> 01:18:41,559
Speaker 3: the league that don't give a hoot about kickoffs now

1581
01:18:41,640 --> 01:18:44,599
Speaker 3: that the rule is in place, albeit for a year anyway,

1582
01:18:46,439 --> 01:18:49,639
Speaker 3: and they may do that. They may choose to lean

1583
01:18:49,760 --> 01:18:53,720
Speaker 3: more heavily to positions that they feel are more important

1584
01:18:54,080 --> 01:18:56,360
Speaker 3: but maybe less so on special teams and say, you

1585
01:18:56,400 --> 01:18:59,160
Speaker 3: know what, let's carry an extra tackle so we don't

1586
01:18:59,200 --> 01:19:01,160
Speaker 3: get into the mess in last year. You know, like

1587
01:19:01,240 --> 01:19:04,000
Speaker 3: maybe it's Dallas, you know, who lost a tackle, or

1588
01:19:04,040 --> 01:19:07,400
Speaker 3: maybe it's Cincinnati who lost three starting linemen at the

1589
01:19:07,520 --> 01:19:09,479
Speaker 3: end of the year, maybe they carry an extra lineman

1590
01:19:09,840 --> 01:19:13,000
Speaker 3: instead of an extra you know, eighth or ninth linebacker

1591
01:19:13,080 --> 01:19:14,160
Speaker 3: to play on special teams.

1592
01:19:14,240 --> 01:19:15,880
Speaker 2: It could happen somewhere. I just don't know if it

1593
01:19:15,920 --> 01:19:16,400
Speaker 2: happens here.

1594
01:19:16,560 --> 01:19:19,880
Speaker 4: To further that point, I think, like we talked about

1595
01:19:19,880 --> 01:19:22,800
Speaker 4: earlier with this, that it's probably gonna change throughout the season.

1596
01:19:22,880 --> 01:19:25,639
Speaker 4: I mean, the special teams coordinators, whether it be here

1597
01:19:25,800 --> 01:19:27,920
Speaker 4: in Buffalo or around the league, can go into a

1598
01:19:27,960 --> 01:19:29,400
Speaker 4: season and say, all right, this is what we're gonna do.

1599
01:19:29,520 --> 01:19:32,240
Speaker 4: We feel confident based on last year our personnel that

1600
01:19:32,320 --> 01:19:34,600
Speaker 4: we're either going to always run it out or defensively,

1601
01:19:34,680 --> 01:19:38,240
Speaker 4: we are feeling confident in stopping teams before the twenty five,

1602
01:19:39,040 --> 01:19:41,120
Speaker 4: four weeks into the season. If that's not the case,

1603
01:19:41,160 --> 01:19:42,920
Speaker 4: if you're not returning the ball very well, or if

1604
01:19:42,960 --> 01:19:45,400
Speaker 4: teams are breaking up big runs, that could change things

1605
01:19:45,439 --> 01:19:48,920
Speaker 4: a little bit. So there's experimenting with the analysis here

1606
01:19:48,920 --> 01:19:51,640
Speaker 4: with us, and I think with the coaches Sean McDermott,

1607
01:19:51,760 --> 01:19:53,800
Speaker 4: it could change his philosophy. One thing I will say,

1608
01:19:54,400 --> 01:19:56,840
Speaker 4: it's not the best news for someone like Nahem Hines,

1609
01:19:56,840 --> 01:20:00,479
Speaker 4: who was of course a dynamic return guy that maybe

1610
01:20:01,040 --> 01:20:03,240
Speaker 4: by October or November, the Bills are like, hey, look,

1611
01:20:03,400 --> 01:20:04,479
Speaker 4: just catch the ball.

1612
01:20:04,560 --> 01:20:04,800
Speaker 6: That's it.

1613
01:20:04,920 --> 01:20:07,840
Speaker 4: That just devalues what he brings to the field, right.

1614
01:20:08,080 --> 01:20:10,519
Speaker 3: And then you know we're going to see this in

1615
01:20:10,640 --> 01:20:14,000
Speaker 3: training camp. Every team in the league is going to

1616
01:20:14,040 --> 01:20:16,400
Speaker 3: be practicing how to field squib kickoffs.

1617
01:20:16,439 --> 01:20:17,760
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, because that is going.

1618
01:20:17,760 --> 01:20:20,880
Speaker 3: To be the new soup du joure on kickoffs if

1619
01:20:20,920 --> 01:20:25,000
Speaker 3: you believe in your coverage unit, which you know the

1620
01:20:25,080 --> 01:20:26,880
Speaker 3: Bills were one of those teams last year. They would

1621
01:20:26,920 --> 01:20:30,320
Speaker 3: have Tyler Bass pop it up high hang time short

1622
01:20:30,360 --> 01:20:32,439
Speaker 3: of the goal line, force them to return it. Because

1623
01:20:32,479 --> 01:20:34,400
Speaker 3: they believed in their coverage unit enough and they were

1624
01:20:34,400 --> 01:20:37,120
Speaker 3: good they could stop them before the twenty five yard line,

1625
01:20:37,200 --> 01:20:40,080
Speaker 3: and the majority of the time they did, they had

1626
01:20:40,160 --> 01:20:43,080
Speaker 3: one of the best opponent average drive starts in the league.

1627
01:20:43,400 --> 01:20:45,280
Speaker 3: It was somewhere around the twenty two yard line if

1628
01:20:45,320 --> 01:20:49,000
Speaker 3: I remember right, And I think they would like to

1629
01:20:49,120 --> 01:20:52,720
Speaker 3: continue in that vein now it's obviously a little bit

1630
01:20:52,760 --> 01:20:56,120
Speaker 3: more challenging. What is the work around number one? And

1631
01:20:56,160 --> 01:20:57,840
Speaker 3: then number two? If you want to coach your return

1632
01:20:57,920 --> 01:21:02,679
Speaker 3: teams properly, you better be praed fielding squibkicks and having

1633
01:21:02,960 --> 01:21:06,320
Speaker 3: contingency plans. If the ball doesn't get all the way

1634
01:21:06,439 --> 01:21:10,600
Speaker 3: down to your designated return man, maybe the makeup of

1635
01:21:10,680 --> 01:21:13,360
Speaker 3: the players on your return unit is different. Maybe you

1636
01:21:13,360 --> 01:21:15,360
Speaker 3: don't just have one return guy back there, maybe you

1637
01:21:15,439 --> 01:21:19,520
Speaker 3: have three. Maybe your upmen are now suddenly have returnability,

1638
01:21:19,760 --> 01:21:22,360
Speaker 3: Like Reggie Gilliam would be a good upman because he

1639
01:21:22,400 --> 01:21:25,160
Speaker 3: at least has some athleticism to get you yards and

1640
01:21:25,280 --> 01:21:26,360
Speaker 3: field a squibkick.

1641
01:21:26,960 --> 01:21:28,720
Speaker 2: And then you have the other thing that I had

1642
01:21:28,760 --> 01:21:29,680
Speaker 2: thought of the other day.

1643
01:21:31,200 --> 01:21:35,640
Speaker 3: Who's to say a team doesn't have their kicker like

1644
01:21:36,520 --> 01:21:38,920
Speaker 3: fire a line drive off the leg of an upman

1645
01:21:39,360 --> 01:21:42,559
Speaker 3: who is standing still, you know, at the ten yard

1646
01:21:43,280 --> 01:21:46,559
Speaker 3: line of demarcation. If you have a guy that can

1647
01:21:46,640 --> 01:21:49,519
Speaker 3: directional kick effectively, and that's a hard thing with a football,

1648
01:21:50,760 --> 01:21:54,120
Speaker 3: just crack it off the leg of an upman and

1649
01:21:54,200 --> 01:21:56,960
Speaker 3: then it's a free ball. Now you're running the risk

1650
01:21:57,040 --> 01:21:59,400
Speaker 3: of it being a short kick because if it doesn't

1651
01:21:59,439 --> 01:22:01,680
Speaker 3: bounce off his leg properly, now they've got it at the.

1652
01:22:01,680 --> 01:22:04,320
Speaker 2: Thirty five and you've completely defeated the purpose.

1653
01:22:05,080 --> 01:22:08,080
Speaker 3: But if you feel good about that, or there's a

1654
01:22:08,200 --> 01:22:11,439
Speaker 3: gap in the return team somewhere where you can fit

1655
01:22:11,560 --> 01:22:14,960
Speaker 3: it through, maybe you rip it off somebody's leg and

1656
01:22:15,040 --> 01:22:15,400
Speaker 3: say go.

1657
01:22:15,479 --> 01:22:16,000
Speaker 2: Get the ball.

1658
01:22:16,360 --> 01:22:18,000
Speaker 4: Yeah. I just think the fact that we've talked about

1659
01:22:18,000 --> 01:22:20,640
Speaker 4: this now in two separate segments, to me, indicates that

1660
01:22:21,080 --> 01:22:25,479
Speaker 4: there are probably extensive probably all summer meetings. Oh yeah,

1661
01:22:25,600 --> 01:22:28,160
Speaker 4: in those special coordinators rooms. Do we put a wide

1662
01:22:28,200 --> 01:22:30,560
Speaker 4: receiver further up the field now and say, hey, we

1663
01:22:30,600 --> 01:22:32,600
Speaker 4: don't want them to try that, and if they do,

1664
01:22:32,800 --> 01:22:34,680
Speaker 4: we don't want a bunch of offensive lineman trying to

1665
01:22:34,720 --> 01:22:37,200
Speaker 4: corral the football. We want maybe a tight end or

1666
01:22:37,240 --> 01:22:39,320
Speaker 4: a wide receiver where we would never position one in

1667
01:22:39,360 --> 01:22:41,559
Speaker 4: the past. Again, there's going to be a lot of tinkering,

1668
01:22:41,640 --> 01:22:46,439
Speaker 4: I think, certainly at training camp for you to be

1669
01:22:46,640 --> 01:22:49,800
Speaker 4: reporting on what's going on. Normally it's hey, they're doing kickoffs, now,

1670
01:22:49,840 --> 01:22:51,880
Speaker 4: I'm going to go get a drink whatever. Now you

1671
01:22:51,960 --> 01:22:55,719
Speaker 4: can really spend time listening and listening to Chris Brown

1672
01:22:55,840 --> 01:22:58,360
Speaker 4: report on, Hey, this is what it looks like and

1673
01:22:58,600 --> 01:23:02,080
Speaker 4: in preseason games. The tinkering that will happen before the season,

1674
01:23:02,120 --> 01:23:04,639
Speaker 4: and we'll see a lot of that throughout the regular season.

1675
01:23:04,680 --> 01:23:06,760
Speaker 4: I do still think we will get a lot of

1676
01:23:08,240 --> 01:23:12,559
Speaker 4: times where there is some bad looking plays on kickoffs,

1677
01:23:12,560 --> 01:23:16,000
Speaker 4: where there's offensive linemen, defensive linemen trying to get the

1678
01:23:16,040 --> 01:23:18,400
Speaker 4: football when they just can't do it, and teams will

1679
01:23:18,400 --> 01:23:20,640
Speaker 4: get the football at a very good spot on the

1680
01:23:20,680 --> 01:23:21,439
Speaker 4: field because of that.

1681
01:23:21,760 --> 01:23:22,000
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1682
01:23:22,160 --> 01:23:26,439
Speaker 3: And I'm wondering how careful teams are with scribkicks too,

1683
01:23:26,520 --> 01:23:29,160
Speaker 3: because obviously a scribkick all it's got to do is

1684
01:23:29,240 --> 01:23:31,040
Speaker 3: take a wacky bounce and now it's out of bounds

1685
01:23:31,040 --> 01:23:33,240
Speaker 3: and they get it at the forty. Yeah, so there's

1686
01:23:33,280 --> 01:23:36,640
Speaker 3: gonna be funny. Oh, there are meetings upon meetings going on. Now,

1687
01:23:36,760 --> 01:23:39,160
Speaker 3: you mark my words on that for sure.

1688
01:23:39,960 --> 01:23:41,600
Speaker 2: Let's go back to the phones and to Mark and

1689
01:23:41,680 --> 01:23:44,840
Speaker 2: West Seneca. Who joins us? What do you got for us? Mark? Hey?

1690
01:23:44,920 --> 01:23:47,840
Speaker 9: Brownie, Hey Chris, Hey, I got two questions for you,

1691
01:23:48,479 --> 01:23:51,960
Speaker 9: once for Chris and the other ones for both of you. Chris,

1692
01:23:52,080 --> 01:23:54,960
Speaker 9: I'm just curious what your background is in football as

1693
01:23:55,000 --> 01:23:58,240
Speaker 9: far as did you play, what level did you play

1694
01:23:58,280 --> 01:24:01,960
Speaker 9: to have you held any NFL all jobs and if

1695
01:24:02,000 --> 01:24:04,000
Speaker 9: you did, with who and what were they? How'd you

1696
01:24:04,000 --> 01:24:06,519
Speaker 9: get involved in that? And then my question for both

1697
01:24:06,560 --> 01:24:10,599
Speaker 9: of you is, all things being equal, okay, would both

1698
01:24:10,720 --> 01:24:13,120
Speaker 9: if you were the GMS, either one of you would

1699
01:24:13,200 --> 01:24:16,120
Speaker 9: you sign Hopkins? Because the longer this goes on and

1700
01:24:16,240 --> 01:24:18,920
Speaker 9: the more the information that comes out, I'm starting to land.

1701
01:24:18,960 --> 01:24:22,559
Speaker 9: I'm finding myself landing on the side of not wanting

1702
01:24:22,600 --> 01:24:24,880
Speaker 9: to touch this guy. A little bit too much of

1703
01:24:24,920 --> 01:24:27,080
Speaker 9: a diva, certainly, not a leader with what he pulled

1704
01:24:27,080 --> 01:24:29,920
Speaker 9: in Arizona, not wanting to practice, didn't want to play

1705
01:24:29,920 --> 01:24:31,400
Speaker 9: at the end of the year, that kind of stuff.

1706
01:24:31,880 --> 01:24:34,320
Speaker 9: And I don't want a guy that the team's got

1707
01:24:34,439 --> 01:24:36,400
Speaker 9: to really manage. I mean, I know pros need to

1708
01:24:36,439 --> 01:24:41,559
Speaker 9: be managed sometimes to a certain degree, but not a lot,

1709
01:24:41,720 --> 01:24:44,519
Speaker 9: not every day. And you know, he can say all

1710
01:24:44,560 --> 01:24:47,479
Speaker 9: the right things, but let's see how you would react

1711
01:24:47,520 --> 01:24:50,240
Speaker 9: when he's here. So I'm curious, and like I said,

1712
01:24:50,240 --> 01:24:52,360
Speaker 9: I'm starting to land on the negative side on this.

1713
01:24:52,600 --> 01:24:54,880
Speaker 2: All right, Mark, thanks for the call, appreciate it. Go ahead,

1714
01:24:54,920 --> 01:24:55,680
Speaker 2: Chris fired off.

1715
01:24:55,720 --> 01:24:58,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, I can start. So I never played football in

1716
01:24:58,520 --> 01:24:59,880
Speaker 4: my life. As you can kind of see if you're

1717
01:24:59,880 --> 01:25:03,120
Speaker 4: w watching on TV, I'm more closely sized to a

1718
01:25:03,200 --> 01:25:07,000
Speaker 4: Deante Hardy than I am a Von Miller. My mom

1719
01:25:07,080 --> 01:25:09,360
Speaker 4: was always concerned about me getting injured. It was way

1720
01:25:09,400 --> 01:25:11,880
Speaker 4: ahead of the CTE all that stuff that we knew.

1721
01:25:11,920 --> 01:25:14,040
Speaker 4: But I'm actually kind of glad that I don't have

1722
01:25:14,200 --> 01:25:18,320
Speaker 4: these lingering injuries into my thirties. Started writing online in

1723
01:25:18,680 --> 01:25:23,000
Speaker 4: college in the mid two thousands, had jobs at Bleacher Report,

1724
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Speaker 4: Fox Sports, was the editor in chief of Buffalo Rumblings

1725
01:25:27,320 --> 01:25:30,439
Speaker 4: for a while, and really beyond just covering the league

1726
01:25:30,479 --> 01:25:33,200
Speaker 4: and mostly focusing on the Bills, I love the draft

1727
01:25:33,280 --> 01:25:35,760
Speaker 4: more than anything else. Back in twenty fourteen was the

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01:25:35,840 --> 01:25:39,080
Speaker 4: first draft that I watched, like two hundred three hundred

1729
01:25:39,120 --> 01:25:42,200
Speaker 4: guys had position rankings out to fifteen spots for every

1730
01:25:43,360 --> 01:25:46,639
Speaker 4: spot on the field, and every draft since then, I've

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01:25:47,120 --> 01:25:50,080
Speaker 4: been someone that is always diving deep into the draft.

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01:25:50,120 --> 01:25:53,679
Speaker 4: And then, in ironically twenty seventeen. August of twenty seventeen,

1733
01:25:53,800 --> 01:25:56,679
Speaker 4: I got the job as the head NFL draft analyst

1734
01:25:56,760 --> 01:26:00,560
Speaker 4: at CBS Sports, which was the Josh Allen final year Wyoming,

1735
01:26:00,640 --> 01:26:04,960
Speaker 4: that very hotly debated quarterback draft. So I've been there

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01:26:05,160 --> 01:26:08,880
Speaker 4: scouting every single not every single draft prospect, but the

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01:26:09,160 --> 01:26:12,320
Speaker 4: entire draft class starting in twenty eighteen. So what's that

1738
01:26:12,520 --> 01:26:15,640
Speaker 4: six draft classes at CBS Sports, right?

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Speaker 2: And then as for Hopkins, I was kind of lukewarm

1740
01:26:21,320 --> 01:26:23,519
Speaker 2: the more I heard about him, Like we had Ed.

1741
01:26:23,600 --> 01:26:26,719
Speaker 3: Smith on who covers the Cardinals as a former NFL

1742
01:26:26,840 --> 01:26:29,160
Speaker 3: tight end, and he was talking about how he would

1743
01:26:29,160 --> 01:26:31,160
Speaker 3: skip out on practice and how it was a very

1744
01:26:31,200 --> 01:26:33,240
Speaker 3: loose ship down there. And this is a guy that

1745
01:26:33,320 --> 01:26:37,320
Speaker 3: wore a Captain C on his chest. Does that qualify

1746
01:26:37,400 --> 01:26:40,320
Speaker 3: him as a bad person? No, But the more you heard,

1747
01:26:40,720 --> 01:26:44,000
Speaker 3: you know, it raised concerns that you would anticipate an

1748
01:26:44,080 --> 01:26:45,840
Speaker 3: NFL team would do a little more digging on.

1749
01:26:46,320 --> 01:26:46,479
Speaker 2: Now.

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01:26:46,560 --> 01:26:49,240
Speaker 3: Maybe the Bills culture is strong enough here where they

1751
01:26:49,280 --> 01:26:52,400
Speaker 3: could absorb a Kui like that, and there's enough veteran

1752
01:26:52,520 --> 01:26:56,080
Speaker 3: leadership here Von Miller, Tredevius White, Micah Hyde, you know,

1753
01:26:56,200 --> 01:26:58,920
Speaker 3: run down the list that they could keep him in check.

1754
01:27:00,600 --> 01:27:03,040
Speaker 3: But yeah, it is a concern. It raises a red flag.

1755
01:27:03,600 --> 01:27:06,800
Speaker 3: So I would tend to be kind of lookewarm on it.

1756
01:27:06,840 --> 01:27:07,680
Speaker 3: I don't know if I'd do it.

1757
01:27:08,280 --> 01:27:10,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, at this point I would say no, because for

1758
01:27:10,920 --> 01:27:12,920
Speaker 4: as long as this has felt like it's gone on,

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01:27:13,040 --> 01:27:14,880
Speaker 4: he wasn't released that long ago. It was like a

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01:27:14,960 --> 01:27:17,360
Speaker 4: right ago At this point to me, I kind of

1761
01:27:17,400 --> 01:27:19,920
Speaker 4: have a different take, and that the longer this stretches out,

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01:27:20,160 --> 01:27:22,600
Speaker 4: I think I would feel better about it, because that

1763
01:27:22,720 --> 01:27:25,280
Speaker 4: to me would indicate that his price has come down

1764
01:27:25,479 --> 01:27:28,559
Speaker 4: at this point. If if right now there was breaking

1765
01:27:28,640 --> 01:27:31,439
Speaker 4: news that the Bills signed DeAndre Hopkins, it would probably

1766
01:27:31,520 --> 01:27:34,120
Speaker 4: be for a pretty hefty price after he's apparently going

1767
01:27:34,160 --> 01:27:37,680
Speaker 4: to do some free agent visits here in June. If

1768
01:27:37,720 --> 01:27:39,920
Speaker 4: we don't hear anything every day that goes by, I

1769
01:27:40,000 --> 01:27:43,200
Speaker 4: think his leverage goes down a little bit as he

1770
01:27:43,320 --> 01:27:45,600
Speaker 4: meets teams and leaves without getting that offer. So I

1771
01:27:45,680 --> 01:27:48,599
Speaker 4: think if we got closer to training camp and still nothing,

1772
01:27:49,439 --> 01:27:53,679
Speaker 4: when we do get that deal in as a breaking

1773
01:27:53,760 --> 01:27:56,160
Speaker 4: news piece, it's more likely that it's a lot cheaper,

1774
01:27:56,200 --> 01:27:58,280
Speaker 4: And like you mentioned from the start, that's what it

1775
01:27:58,280 --> 01:28:01,160
Speaker 4: would have to be to make this ultimately come to

1776
01:28:01,560 --> 01:28:04,360
Speaker 4: fruition for the Bills to be a lower cheaper deal.

1777
01:28:04,880 --> 01:28:07,280
Speaker 3: Break time for us here some final thoughts on the

1778
01:28:07,360 --> 01:28:08,840
Speaker 3: obl fan Friday mail bag.

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01:28:08,920 --> 01:28:11,040
Speaker 2: When we return here on one Bill's Live, stay tuned.

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01:28:25,040 --> 01:28:26,599
Speaker 3: All right, we got a little bit of time here

1781
01:28:26,720 --> 01:28:30,120
Speaker 3: for a couple of final questions on the mail bag

1782
01:28:30,800 --> 01:28:34,760
Speaker 3: question sheet Friday mail bag, and Daniel says, was the

1783
01:28:34,840 --> 01:28:36,840
Speaker 3: twenty twenty one Bill season their best chance at a

1784
01:28:36,920 --> 01:28:37,360
Speaker 3: Super Bowl?

1785
01:28:37,439 --> 01:28:37,639
Speaker 2: Also?

1786
01:28:37,720 --> 01:28:40,519
Speaker 3: How many more years of prime Josh Allen over under

1787
01:28:40,600 --> 01:28:41,160
Speaker 3: five years?

1788
01:28:41,280 --> 01:28:42,120
Speaker 2: Question Mark.

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01:28:43,600 --> 01:28:46,200
Speaker 3: Chris was talking about it earlier about playoff teams kind

1790
01:28:46,240 --> 01:28:49,439
Speaker 3: of hitting their stride or getting a favorable matchup, and

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01:28:49,800 --> 01:28:52,880
Speaker 3: the Bills were peaking in twenty twenty one. When they

1792
01:28:52,960 --> 01:28:55,840
Speaker 3: hit the playoffs, they played maybe the best playoff game

1793
01:28:56,000 --> 01:29:00,360
Speaker 3: in their franchise's history in terms of execution in the

1794
01:29:00,400 --> 01:29:03,720
Speaker 3: Patriots forty seven to seventeen, and then they put up

1795
01:29:03,920 --> 01:29:06,160
Speaker 3: thirty six on a Chiefs team.

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01:29:06,680 --> 01:29:10,800
Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean, I guess you could argue that.

1797
01:29:12,320 --> 01:29:14,439
Speaker 3: Because there are a lot of people and I'm in

1798
01:29:14,600 --> 01:29:17,040
Speaker 3: that boat that thought if they got by the Chiefs

1799
01:29:17,200 --> 01:29:18,720
Speaker 3: like they could have won the whole thing.

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01:29:18,880 --> 01:29:21,240
Speaker 2: It's a shame. It's a shame that, you know, what

1801
01:29:21,400 --> 01:29:22,120
Speaker 2: happened happened.

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01:29:22,479 --> 01:29:24,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll take the second part of that question. I

1803
01:29:24,720 --> 01:29:27,439
Speaker 4: guess question number two, how many more years of Josh

1804
01:29:27,560 --> 01:29:30,800
Speaker 4: Allen's prime over under five years? I would say just

1805
01:29:30,920 --> 01:29:33,120
Speaker 4: over I think into your mid thirties. With the guy

1806
01:29:33,240 --> 01:29:35,840
Speaker 4: us Aaron Rodgers and Tom Brady playing well into their

1807
01:29:35,880 --> 01:29:38,000
Speaker 4: thirties and forties, I think Allen, because of his arm,

1808
01:29:38,400 --> 01:29:39,640
Speaker 4: can extend that prime out.

1809
01:29:39,800 --> 01:29:40,000
Speaker 2: Yeah.

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01:29:40,080 --> 01:29:42,240
Speaker 3: It's kind of like the John Elway principle. Yeah, you

1811
01:29:42,320 --> 01:29:44,920
Speaker 3: know who played well into his mid to late thirties

1812
01:29:45,040 --> 01:29:48,400
Speaker 3: pretty effectively and at pretty high level. That'll do it

1813
01:29:48,520 --> 01:29:50,960
Speaker 3: for us here on a Friday, Chris, thanks for helping

1814
01:29:51,040 --> 01:29:54,439
Speaker 3: us out. As always, we'll catch you on Monday one o'clock.

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Speaker 2: We'll see you that. Have a great weekend, Y,