Speaker 1: Looking Thursday edition Clay Travis buck Sexton Show.
Speaker 2: We appreciate all.
Speaker 1: Of you hanging out with us as we are rolling
Speaker 1: into what should be another fun show with all of you.
Speaker 1: Senat Rampaul is going to join us at two, that
Speaker 1: is a couple of hours from now and give us
Speaker 1: the latest on how the big beautiful Bill is progressing
Speaker 1: in the Senate. Remember, despite all of the attention this
Speaker 1: week on the signal chat of Pete hex At, JD.
Speaker 1: Vans and others, the big story remains that the border bill,
Speaker 1: as well as the tax bill and the overall budget
Speaker 1: priorities of President Trump for the next several years, is
Speaker 1: winding its way through the capital process and there is
Speaker 1: still a lot of work to be done there, with
Speaker 1: the hope that sometime in May it will be officially complete,
Speaker 1: but lots of pulling to do on the House side
Speaker 1: and the Senate side. We will get the absolute latest
Speaker 1: from Senator ran Paul there as well as whether that
Speaker 1: new budget can help we hope to create at least
Speaker 1: some of a clawback on the growth of the national deficit,
Speaker 1: which is at thirty six trillion dollars and continuing to
Speaker 1: expand as we all speak Trump has been effective in
Speaker 1: getting more of the Venezuelan gang leaders arrested. We'll talk
Speaker 1: about that a little bit press conference earlier this morning,
Speaker 1: but he had a press conference yesterday, and I want
Speaker 1: to play some of those cuts for you. As Trump
Speaker 1: took command of the national story. I will say, Buck,
Speaker 1: and I think you'll sign off on this. The seagonal
Speaker 1: story seems to be basically done now. It took a
Speaker 1: couple of days. Atlantic managed to drag it out as
Speaker 1: long as they could, but by and large, I think
Speaker 1: that story is now behind us. And I'm sure there
Speaker 1: will be a new emergence of a top story in
Speaker 1: the near future. But right now is what is going
Speaker 1: on seems to have vanished. And I think, Buck, if
Speaker 1: it's being played at all, it's mostly being played for
Speaker 1: laughs at this point, as opposed to anything else. But
Speaker 1: here is President Trump yesterday saying, on a day when
Speaker 1: they were honoring the number of women involved in his
Speaker 1: administration as a part of a women's history celebration, Guess what,
Speaker 1: no matter how many surgeries you have, a man is
Speaker 1: not a woman.
Speaker 2: This is cut for no.
Speaker 3: Matter how many surgeries you have or chemicals you inject,
Speaker 3: if you're born with male DNA and every cell off
Speaker 3: your body, you can never become a woman.
Speaker 2: You're not going to be a woman.
Speaker 4: Laugh.
Speaker 3: And that's why last month I proudly signed a historic
Speaker 3: executive order to ban men from competing in women's sports.
Speaker 3: And who is very popular, very.
Speaker 1: So that is very popular book positive news here. I
Speaker 1: mean to me, this goes to the essence of whether
Speaker 1: truth is real or not? Is biology real or not?
Speaker 1: The World Track and Field Association now says, hey, we're
Speaker 1: gonna cheek swab every woman who is competing in women's
Speaker 1: track and field and confirm that they are in fact
Speaker 1: all women. And this is important because I don't know
Speaker 1: if we talked about this on the show, but I've
Speaker 1: been doing research. Do you know that every women's track
Speaker 1: and field record has been broken by a fourteen or
Speaker 1: fifteen year old boy in the United States? That is
Speaker 1: the fastest women in the history of the world. Are
Speaker 1: all slower than a fourteen or fifteen year old male sprinter.
Speaker 1: That's how much biology matters. We're not even talking about
Speaker 1: grown men who are training full time. This testosterone stuff's
Speaker 1: pretty powerful and about fourteen or fifteen years old. There
Speaker 1: is no similarity between the sexes anymore.
Speaker 2: When it comes to that remarkable that Trump says this,
Speaker 2: and they still will deny it, and they'll pretend that
Speaker 2: it's not true. They will talk around the issue. But
Speaker 2: the statement, if you're born with male DNA and every
Speaker 2: cell of your body, you can never become a woman.
Speaker 2: You're not going to become a woman. This should be
Speaker 2: the most straightforward, incontrovertible thing. The sky is blue, right,
Speaker 2: This is the most straightforward statement of fact you can
Speaker 2: really come up with. And yet there will be Democrats
Speaker 2: and the left pretending that somehow this is controvert in fact,
Speaker 2: worse than controversial, it's bigoted, clay. If you believe this,
Speaker 2: you were a bad person. And you know, we're starting
Speaker 2: to see also the data compiled on what really the
Speaker 2: reality is for a lot of these individuals who are
Speaker 2: trans and problems with sexual deviancy, sexual assault, I mean
Speaker 2: this stuff. We're not allowed to talk about the number
Speaker 2: of people who have been trans who were involved in
Speaker 2: recent mass shootings, for example, the most notable one in Nashville.
Speaker 2: You're supposed to forget all about this because they don't
Speaker 2: want anyone to realize that there's a huge that this
Speaker 2: is a mental health issue essentially, and they don't want
Speaker 2: to anyone talk about that. Instead, we're supposed to believe
Speaker 2: this is a class of protected person. And if you
Speaker 2: won't go along with and you are supposed to stand
Speaker 2: and cheer as an eighteen year old man runs and
Speaker 2: sets the new track and field record for the eight
Speaker 2: hundred meters against a bunch of girls, you're supposed to
Speaker 2: do that. They really believe this, or rather they really
Speaker 2: say it. I can't tell you what they believe on
Speaker 2: an individual basis. So I think Trump needs to keep
Speaker 2: hammering this home because Clay once they're in charge, who
Speaker 2: knows Democrats they might Biden was putting forward guidance on
Speaker 2: transurgery for miners from the White House, Joe Biden. That
Speaker 2: was reality under a Democrat administration. So this battle is
Speaker 2: not over, and this fight for sanity continues no matter
Speaker 2: how much they say, why are you focusing on this?
Speaker 2: I also think that and this is not going to
Speaker 2: surprise any of you. We talked about how Caroline Levitt
Speaker 2: doesn't get any of the credit that she deserves just
Speaker 2: by being the youngest White House Press secretary ever who
Speaker 2: was also raising an eight month old son right now,
Speaker 2: but Trump pointed out that his cabinet actually has more
Speaker 2: women than any Republican president in the history of the country.
Speaker 2: I haven't seen that headline anywhere, of course you wouldn't
Speaker 2: because it's Trump and nothing positive he does. But he
Speaker 2: said this in cut six.
Speaker 3: I'm also thrilled to say that we have more women
Speaker 3: in our cabinet than any Republican president in the history
Speaker 3: of our country. And joining us today is a woman
Speaker 3: I've known a long time. You talk about strong women,
Speaker 3: this is a strong woman. Remember they were saying he
Speaker 3: doesn't like strong women. Be true, But if that's true,
Speaker 3: I'm in deep trouble because I'm surrounded. I got the
Speaker 3: strongest women, and this is a beautiful, strong, wonderful woman.
Speaker 3: Attorney General Pam Bondi.
Speaker 1: Buck, you know that strong woman comment. You remember who
Speaker 1: said that in the campaign that Trump refused to surround
Speaker 1: himself with strong women, and then they basically sidelined him.
Speaker 1: It was a guy, our good buddy, Mark Cuban. And
Speaker 1: and then then like.
Speaker 2: I remember, now, I remember gotten that sounds like honestly,
Speaker 2: it's it's so hysterical and low t that it sounds
Speaker 2: like something that Olberman would have said. But it is
Speaker 2: a Mark Cuban, a Mark Cubanism.
Speaker 1: That is that they basically sided Remember Mark Cuban became
Speaker 1: the avatar for Kamala Harris for men, he was going
Speaker 1: around speaking everywhere about what an incredible talent she was
Speaker 1: and how phenomenal of the president she would be, and
Speaker 1: then he made those comments and they went megaviral, and
Speaker 1: they happened around the time that Joe Biden called Trump
Speaker 1: supporters trash. So this was in the closing days of
Speaker 1: the campaign, in the October, the final sprint, and they
Speaker 1: basically sidelined Mark Cuban, And I've barely seen the guy anywhere.
Speaker 1: I think he now spends a lot of time over
Speaker 1: on Blue Sky, which I have no idea who Thankfully
Speaker 1: I never have to venture into the Blue Sky streets.
Speaker 1: I think that was the that was the Zuckerberg alternative,
Speaker 1: right that he tried to build to Twitter, where they
Speaker 1: have all sorts of protective safeguards for what cannon cannot
Speaker 1: be said, and a lot of people say they're going
Speaker 1: to go there, but then nothing happens over on that
Speaker 1: site and nobody's really kind of paying attention there, and
Speaker 1: then they come back. But I do think It is
Speaker 1: important to emphasize here that Trump has not only we
Speaker 1: know he's done very well with young men, but a
Speaker 1: lot of women, many of whom are out there listening
Speaker 1: to us right now, either got on the Trump train
Speaker 1: early on in twenty sixteen, or as twenty twenty and
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four have progressed, have finally ended up on
Speaker 1: board the Trump train. I had dinner with a media
Speaker 1: executive on Tuesday, a group of them here in Nashville,
Speaker 1: and one of the guys there said, you know, I
Speaker 1: was totally apolitical. He said, I didn't vote for twenty years.
Speaker 1: I was just kind of focused on my career. I
Speaker 1: wasn't really focused on politics at all. And then he
Speaker 1: was like, I looked up, and I looked around, and
Speaker 1: I was like, there really is no other choices there,
Speaker 1: Like things have gotten so crazy. He said he was
Speaker 1: very happy to go out and vote for Trump in
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four, and he hadn't voted hardly in the
Speaker 1: twenty first century. And I think there are a lot
Speaker 1: of people like that who just get so busy with
Speaker 1: work and life that they're not really paying attention to
Speaker 1: the larger culture or certainly the day to day of politics,
Speaker 1: and it just got so crazy that finally a lot
Speaker 1: of people came in off the sidelines and said, we
Speaker 1: got to fix this. I know we talked about it
Speaker 1: a lot yesterday, but I think that it will become clear.
Speaker 1: It'll take some time, but the the Woke snow White
Speaker 1: disaster I think could be the beginning of a change
Speaker 1: in the creative content business occurring now. Where they start
Speaker 1: to go, it's not going to be conservative, but they're
Speaker 1: going to start being less insane because of the I
Speaker 1: think the financial imperative is is more clear now than
Speaker 1: it has been ever before. People just don't want this stuff,
Speaker 1: and even Disney can't afford to keep doing this stuff.
Speaker 1: You no one can afford to light hundreds of millions
Speaker 1: of dollars on fire on one project, correct, So there's
Speaker 1: gonna have to be a reckoning here with the bottom line.
Speaker 1: I don't think the individuals in charge have necessarily changed
Speaker 1: their beliefs at all, but they're gonna have to stop
Speaker 1: being so crazy if they want to stay in business.
Speaker 1: And this has been a part of a long transformation.
Speaker 1: I mean, if you had we had had this conversation
Speaker 1: ten years ago, it would have felt like, oh, my gosh,
Speaker 1: no way will they ever abandon the tenets of the
Speaker 1: far left worship that we see in all of these
Speaker 1: different media projects. Look at CNN, look at MSNBC. I mean,
Speaker 1: we are in a time of change in the narrative
Speaker 1: overall in this country, but also in the gatekeepers and
Speaker 1: the content creators, corporations, massive corporations, obviously Bezos and Face
Speaker 1: and Zuckerberg showing up at the inauguration with Trump. It's
Speaker 1: not about Clay, who's a true believer. Now I think
Speaker 1: the market has changed. That's a difference, right, It's not oh,
Speaker 1: because it was. We're gonna build our own stuff and
Speaker 1: they're gonna have their stuff, and eventually our stuff will
Speaker 1: grow to the size where we'll have the We talk
Speaker 1: about the parallel economy, Yes, increasingly, this is just the
Speaker 1: economy now where you can't get away with the fringe
Speaker 1: twenty percent leftist stuff is starting to become financially toxic.
Speaker 1: That's right, and it's very important that that. But and
Speaker 1: this is why we said, many of you stop drinking
Speaker 1: bud light, and we've used that as an example. You
Speaker 1: shouldn't be firebombing bud light trucks, right, Like there's a
Speaker 1: difference between saying, Hey, I'm going to put my money
Speaker 1: where I feel like my values are and trying to
Speaker 1: physically attack and destroy people who make decisions that are
Speaker 1: different than you. And I will give a little bit
Speaker 1: of credit to bud Light, like I think they lit
Speaker 1: their brand on fire metaphorically speaking, but they have been
Speaker 1: aggressively trying to win back the audience.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: I think the challenge, as we said before, is their
Speaker 1: beer doesn't taste that much different than a lot of
Speaker 1: other light beers, and I'm gonna get dell loosed as
Speaker 1: I always do. I can tell the difference between Miller
Speaker 1: Lite and Cores Light and bud Light all day Clay
Speaker 1: after about two beers. Trust me, you can't. But that's
Speaker 1: the challenge that they've got. The brand value that they
Speaker 1: created Buck was really just Hey, drinking a beer and
Speaker 1: hanging out with your friends is fun. Sports are good,
Speaker 1: We like girls in bikinis. Like this was the fun
Speaker 1: element that they try to sell with beer. And then
Speaker 1: suddenly they're telling you, hey, here's a dude, and actually
Speaker 1: you have to say it's a girl with a bud
Speaker 1: Light can. And guys just said, yeah, we're not doing
Speaker 1: this and I think that the bottom line ultimately is
Speaker 1: the driver. For a long time, they said none of
Speaker 1: this works. Bud Light is basically destroyed as a brand.
Speaker 1: Now Disney's in trouble. Disney's in real trouble when a
Speaker 1: lot of parents out there can't trust taking their kids
Speaker 1: to a Disney movie because there's all sorts of crazy
Speaker 1: left wing politics in it. And if I'm Bob Igert,
Speaker 1: i am looking around and saying, hey, we're done with this,
Speaker 1: and sometimes buck those guys can know it's not smart.
Speaker 1: But a lot of CEOs are cowards, frankly, and they
Speaker 1: follow whatever the herd is going because they want to
Speaker 1: keep their jobs. And now Bob iger can walk into
Speaker 1: the boardroom or the creative team and he can say, look, guys,
Speaker 1: we lost two hundred million dollars on this movie, like
Speaker 1: we can't do this ever again, or the company won't exist.
Speaker 1: Let's get bite back to just telling universal, awesome stories
Speaker 1: for everyone. Example I've used for a while, how about
Speaker 1: Top Gun Maverick. Why can't we go back to the
Speaker 1: movies that were made in the eighties and the nineties
Speaker 1: that truly appealed to everyone instead of trying to check
Speaker 1: all these different identity boxes. Let's just tell universally great
Speaker 1: stories that have mass appeal to everyone, totally.
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Speaker 1: Okay, so I know a lot of you are going
Speaker 1: to say, wait a minute, Clay, we just had an election.
Speaker 1: We just had November fifth. We just celebrated won the presidency.
Speaker 1: Who won the House? We won the Senate. But the
Speaker 1: House majority is tenuous, comes down to a few seats. Tuesday,
Speaker 1: two of the seats are being filled by guys who
Speaker 1: step down. Matt Gates in Florida one is going to
Speaker 1: be replaced by Jimmy Patronis.
Speaker 2: I know Jimmy.
Speaker 1: He's done really good work in the state of Florida.
Speaker 1: All of you out there in the panhandle Florida one,
Speaker 1: you need to get out and vote. But I want
Speaker 1: to talk about Florida six here. This is the seat
Speaker 1: that was relinquished by Mike Waltz when he decided to
Speaker 1: join the Trump cabinet, the Trump administration. It is a
Speaker 1: very umftable Trump district. But I want to hit you
Speaker 1: with these numbers. Buck, you were also just reading this.
Speaker 1: The Democrats, in an effort to try to steal this seat,
Speaker 1: have spent nine point seven million dollars in Florida six
Speaker 1: compared to the five hundred and sixty thousand dollars spent
Speaker 1: by Randy Fine, who is the Republican candidate. This is
Speaker 1: a very pro Trump district. You guys, I understand you
Speaker 1: just voted. You need to get back out and vote.
Speaker 1: Because they're concerned enough about how tenuous this House majority
Speaker 1: is that they just pull the least Stephanics n ambassador
Speaker 1: role over being concerned about her New York congressional seat.
Speaker 1: And then you've got two different seats that are available
Speaker 1: for the remainder of the term that are up on
Speaker 1: April first, that's Tuesday. I think a lot of you
Speaker 1: listening to us in Florida right now may not even
Speaker 1: be aware this is going on because so many of
Speaker 1: you right after the election, you're taking a breather, you're
Speaker 1: kicking back, you're enjoying the results of the Trump victory.
Speaker 1: But you need to turn out again because if Democrats
Speaker 1: can whittle down and take back the House, they're not
Speaker 1: passing anything that Trump wants to get done. And this
Speaker 1: is going to be the risk next year in the
Speaker 1: midterm when all four hundred and thirty five House seats
Speaker 1: are up for grabs, and we'll have to see how
Speaker 1: that goes next year. But in the meantime, we got
Speaker 1: to preserve what we've already won. And so if you're
Speaker 1: listening to us in Florida right now, or you've got
Speaker 1: friends and family, these are very Trump districts. Trump won
Speaker 1: Florida one by thirty seven, he won Florida six by
Speaker 1: thirty But a lot of the people that voted for
Speaker 1: Trump may not be coming out. They may not even
Speaker 1: be aware of these special election So this is I
Speaker 1: think just hey, pay attention, keep your head on a
Speaker 1: swivel here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it would be it would be a
Speaker 2: disastrous state of affairs for the Trump agenda if we
Speaker 2: were to lose control of the House. Even with the
Speaker 2: very narrow control that we have, it still is effectively there.
Speaker 2: So that's something that we need to keep an eye on.
Speaker 2: And it's interesting to see how Democrats are able to
Speaker 2: funnel I'm sure, Clay, if you looked at it's public information, right,
Speaker 2: I'm just guessing. But the of the almost ten million
Speaker 2: dollars the Democrat has raised in this district, remember a
Speaker 2: district that Trump won by thirty points. Okay, ten million
Speaker 2: dollars for a congressional seat that you are minus thirty
Speaker 2: in the last election, which was just a few months ago,
Speaker 2: just goes to show you Democrats they will funnel cash in.
Speaker 2: I bet a huge percentage of it is money out
Speaker 2: of the out of the district from you know, it's
Speaker 2: money that's coming in from New York and Los Angeles,
Speaker 2: and you know people are giving money to whatever they
Speaker 2: have to to try to sneak this congressional seat into
Speaker 2: the Democrat column. So you know, we sit here, we
Speaker 2: talk about the Democrats have no messaging, which is true.
Speaker 2: They do have a lot of money though they totally
Speaker 2: outspent Trump the last time around. They totally outspend Trump
Speaker 2: the first time around, and they will do things like this,
Speaker 2: which is something we have to be prepared for. So
Speaker 2: if you're listening, you know we're on in this area,
Speaker 2: in the sixth District of Florida. We have a huge
Speaker 2: Florida audience. Thank you very much, Floridians. Our Florida audience
Speaker 2: has grown by I think overall like twenty five or
Speaker 2: thirty percent in the last couple of years. So we
Speaker 2: have a lot of Floridians that are listening, and I
Speaker 2: know some of you in Daytona Beach area. Right, that's
Speaker 2: I think roughly roughly what this. So if you're listening
Speaker 2: to us in Daytona Beach area, you cannot let the
Speaker 2: Democrats take this one. Get out there. This is where
Speaker 2: also yard signs, I mean, the basic stuff. Right, This
Speaker 2: is going to be a small number overall of people
Speaker 2: who are determining this congressional seat. So if you're listening
Speaker 2: to us and you're in this district. Whatever you can
Speaker 2: makes a difference. This is not you know, oh, but
Speaker 2: do I really does the president need my vote? Randy
Speaker 2: Fine needs your vote? Get out there?
Speaker 1: Yeah, And it is I think true if you look
Speaker 1: at the data that the die hard left wing, crazy
Speaker 1: town base of the Democrats does better at showing up
Speaker 1: on special elections than the average Republican voter does. They're
Speaker 1: super committed for these things that a lot of people
Speaker 1: don't pay attention to. That they do better at primary turnout,
Speaker 1: they do better in special elections. We do better as
Speaker 1: a party in mid terms when they're actually big midterms.
Speaker 1: In election now with presidential races, the turnout is very good.
Speaker 1: But don't get caught napping. And to your point, I mean,
Speaker 1: think about that nearly. I'm always bad at math live.
Speaker 1: But we're talking about twenty to one being outspent in
Speaker 1: that Florida sixth congressional district, so they think they can
Speaker 1: steal it. And by the way, also if you're up
Speaker 1: on the Panhandle, get out and vote as well. Again,
Speaker 1: I don't think we're pressing the alarm too soon, but
Speaker 1: if if they were super confident about their majority, at
Speaker 1: least Stephonic wouldn't be stepping down from the UN ambassador position.
Speaker 2: But I will make this I'll make this prediction right
Speaker 2: now so we can log this as a prediction at
Speaker 2: least dephonic in uh, the after this next cycle is
Speaker 2: gonna end up getting something even more exciting in the
Speaker 2: Trump administration than a US Ambassador to the UN role,
Speaker 2: which is which is high up there obviously, but I
Speaker 2: think she could be in line for something even a
Speaker 2: little more exciting because for her to obviously voluntarily say okay, okay,
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna take the that US Ambassador to the
Speaker 2: UN role. I'm gonna stay in Congress offense to Congress.
Speaker 2: But there's a lot of them, Uh, they're they're gonna
Speaker 2: they're making some kind of a sweetheart deal for her
Speaker 2: to to do what's right for the team. And I
Speaker 2: think she's willing to do that.
Speaker 1: Again, I don't want to speculate on who. I also
Speaker 1: think buck this tells that there may be some health
Speaker 1: issues in the larger Republican caucus because it only takes again,
Speaker 1: we've seen this happen. Look at what happened with Diane
Speaker 1: Feinstein at the end of her tenure as the Senator
Speaker 1: from California, what's happened with Mitch McConnell and his health,
Speaker 1: the falls that he's had. When you start getting people
Speaker 1: in their seventies and eighties, this is one of the
Speaker 1: dangers of having a gar intocracy when it comes to leadership.
Speaker 1: People age differently, as many of you know, but you
Speaker 1: can go from very healthy in your seventies to really
Speaker 1: in dire straits very quickly. And there are a lot
Speaker 1: of people in their seventies and eighties who are a
Speaker 1: part of our leadership. And so when you've got to
Speaker 1: margin this fine, this tiny, I think that everybody needs
Speaker 1: to make sure it makes certain that they make rational,
Speaker 1: good decisions and get out and vote in these races.
Speaker 2: So this also is a powerful reminder that while we
Speaker 2: sit here, and it has been there's been a little
Speaker 2: bit of political you area in the first sixty days
Speaker 2: of Trump's term because of the team he's assembled and
Speaker 2: the accomplishments they're racking up and the focus the messaging
Speaker 2: it's been this is fantastic stuff. Okay, they've they've been
Speaker 2: doing everything that we want them to do and then some.
Speaker 2: But remember from the beginning we said they really have
Speaker 2: twelve to eighteen months to save the country or to
Speaker 2: make meaningful, lasting change for the United States in very
Speaker 2: positive ways. This this midterm election is going to be
Speaker 2: It's going to be a dogfight.
Speaker 5: It just is.
Speaker 2: That's the reality of being the party in power. And
Speaker 2: it's not like we're going into it with fifteen or
Speaker 2: twenty seats of majority. So on the Senate side, I
Speaker 2: think it looks a lot better. But if Democrats were
Speaker 2: to take the House, oh my gosh, they you know,
Speaker 2: the hearings, they'll find something. They'll be having hearings on
Speaker 2: signal Gate, you know, and it's the whole thing. They're
Speaker 2: just going to go into. Anything to slow down and
Speaker 2: mess up Trump is justified and necessary. So it's it
Speaker 2: reminds us all that there is a finite window here
Speaker 2: to get very important stuff done to fix the country.
Speaker 2: Hopefully it doesn't become an issue because we keep the
Speaker 2: majority and Trump can keep doing great stuff. But you can't.
Speaker 2: You can't plan on that. You gotta plan on getting
Speaker 2: it done now, no doubt.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be down in Florida with Buck in studio
Speaker 1: Tuesday Wednesday. On Monday, I'm gonna be helping to raise
Speaker 1: money for tunnel to Towers does incredible work. Some of
Speaker 1: you may remember I was their keynote, their host of
Speaker 1: their big fundraiser that they had up in New York
Speaker 1: City in October.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be at the Trump National.
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Speaker 1: Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show.
Speaker 2: Appreciate all of you hanging out with us.
Speaker 1: We've been breaking down all of the absolute latest news
Speaker 1: out there from across the nation, and we head now
Speaker 1: up to I believe or he is, Washington, d C.
Speaker 1: Senator Ran Paul of Kentucky joins us. Now, Senator, we
Speaker 1: got a lot to dive into with you. Appreciate you
Speaker 1: joining us. Let me just start here right off the top.
Speaker 1: How is the budget and border bill process going? How
Speaker 1: does the timeline look to you? How would you assess
Speaker 1: it at this point?
Speaker 5: I'm worried. I'm very worried that they're wanting to add
Speaker 5: five trillion dollars to the debt ceiling. All the good
Speaker 5: news we've heard about Elon Musk, about cutting contracts and
Speaker 5: cutting born aide. All that has been so energizing to
Speaker 5: our base. To conservatives like me, we jump for joy,
Speaker 5: we cheer, and then they say, well, but the bill's
Speaker 5: going to increase the debt ceiling by five filing And
Speaker 5: we say, well, how is that possible. We thought we
Speaker 5: were cutting spending. Why would we increase it more than
Speaker 5: two trillion dollars a year for the next two and
Speaker 5: a half years. And there's not a good explanation. And
Speaker 5: so I've told them I won't vote for any bill
Speaker 5: that adds five trillion to the deficit. That's not physically conservative. Now,
Speaker 5: I'll vote for the tax cuts I voted for him
Speaker 5: in twenty seventeen. I'll vote to make the tax cuts permanent.
Speaker 5: I'll vote for spending cuts, but I didn't vote for
Speaker 5: the spending And I'm damn sure not voting for adding
Speaker 5: five trillion dollars to the national debt. I just think
Speaker 5: that's outrageous. And people are going to wake up. People
Speaker 5: who listen to your show, We're going to wake up
Speaker 5: in a couple of months from now and say, my gosh,
Speaker 5: I thought we voted for something conservative. I thought those
Speaker 5: was cutting all this spending, and yet they're still going
Speaker 5: to add two trillion to the death this year.
Speaker 2: Something's not right, you know, Senator Paul, appreciate you being
Speaker 2: with us. We've played for the audience some sound bites
Speaker 2: from years past when people like Nancy Pelosi, Barack Obama,
Speaker 2: and other very high profile Democrats talk about stopping fraud, waste,
Speaker 2: and abuse in government spending, reining in unnecessary spending. So
Speaker 2: we know that they've said stuff like that, But to
Speaker 2: where we are right now, it seems like everything that
Speaker 2: Doze tries to do in terms of recommendations to the president,
Speaker 2: and then everything that Trump tries to do to rein
Speaker 2: in that spending Democrats opposed. Are there any Democrats in
Speaker 2: the Senate who do want to cut spending? In all honesty,
Speaker 2: is there anyone who actually wants to see that number
Speaker 2: go down for anything other than the military?
Speaker 5: Zero? Not a No Democrat in the entire body of
Speaker 5: Congress will vote to cut even a dollar. So I
Speaker 5: had an amendment last week that would have cut about oh,
Speaker 5: sixteen billion out of four and eight. Four and eight
Speaker 5: is about forty billion. I would have cut sixteen billions.
Speaker 5: A little less than a half. And this was to
Speaker 5: represent what Doze was doing, what Elon Musk had proposed,
Speaker 5: what really Secretary Rubio has already said he's canceling these contracts.
Speaker 5: I would just put it into law. Zero Democrats voted
Speaker 5: for that, but even worse, about half the Republicans voted
Speaker 5: against me as well. I got a little over half
Speaker 5: of the Republicans with me, about half the Republicans against me.
Speaker 5: And the reason I put it forward was to show
Speaker 5: that even low hanging fruit, even two million dollars for
Speaker 5: sex changes in Guatemala, three hundred thousand dollars for food
Speaker 5: justice for queer and trans farmers, crazy stuff like that,
Speaker 5: you can't even get all of the Republicans on board,
Speaker 5: but you get zero Democrats. So we still have a problem.
Speaker 5: And I'm the lonely voice crying out on this because
Speaker 5: people are going to be disappointed, and they're going to
Speaker 5: be upset, and they're going to be saying, what happened?
Speaker 5: What happened to the Republicans When the end of the
Speaker 5: year rolls around and there's still a two trillion dollar
Speaker 5: deficit this year and the Republicans are anticipating another two
Speaker 5: trillion the next year that it just shows that there
Speaker 5: is not a true seriousness, even on the Republican side.
Speaker 1: How much of this is the embedded cost of COVID
Speaker 1: becoming standardized in budgets going forward, Because we had Senator
Speaker 1: Ron Johnson on and he's talked about this quite a lot,
Speaker 1: that if we just went back to budget spending twenty nineteen,
Speaker 1: that we would have a balanced budget right now. I
Speaker 1: know inflation has risen since then and that there are
Speaker 1: other costs that continue to grow, but it does seem
Speaker 1: that the growth of the federal government has now been embedded,
Speaker 1: which is what Democrats wanted in all future budget bills,
Speaker 1: with the idea being anything that doesn't continue to grow
Speaker 1: those rates is considered to be a massive cut.
Speaker 5: I think that's true. During pandemic, you know, the deficit
Speaker 5: went up to three and a half trillion in a year.
Speaker 5: The deficits have come down, so remember Biden was bragging
Speaker 5: he's bringing the deficit down. Yeah, well from three and
Speaker 5: a half trillion to two trillion. But a lot of
Speaker 5: that spending got embedded into government and still there. But
Speaker 5: realize that those pandemic programs, all the free money that
Speaker 5: was passed up, all the checks that were passed out.
Speaker 5: That was all the Democrats and most of the Republicans.
Speaker 5: That was a bipartisan screw up. If you will to
Speaker 5: lock the economy down, just print up money. I opposed
Speaker 5: every bit of it, every bit of the Cares program
Speaker 5: the PPP. I said, you shouldn't lock us down, we
Speaker 5: shouldn't do this, and we did. And that's part of it.
Speaker 5: But part of it is this disconnect that people will say, oh,
Speaker 5: they love you on us, they love the cuts, and
Speaker 5: they're not for you know, transgender surgery in Guatemala, and
Speaker 5: they're not for all these crazy trans operas in Columbia.
Speaker 5: But when push comes to shove, they're at least ten
Speaker 5: or fifteen Republicans of the Senate who loved Flournde. They
Speaker 5: think it's the best thing since slice bread. I think
Speaker 5: it's one of the worst and most egregious of all
Speaker 5: the spending we have in Congress. And yet if they
Speaker 5: won't cut that, you then say, well, will you cut
Speaker 5: any of the entitlements? Will you look at Medicare or
Speaker 5: Medicaid or cert security or food stamps or welfare. Oh no,
Speaker 5: they're not looking at that either. And you start to
Speaker 5: wonder all these Republicans really conservative at this point. And
Speaker 5: mind you, there are zero Democrats. I admit that there
Speaker 5: are zero Democrats. But we're trying to pass something this
Speaker 5: spring that will be only Republican votes. And yet we
Speaker 5: can't get Republican votes even to have the states pay
Speaker 5: more of their fair share. So Medicaid normally it's fifty
Speaker 5: to fifty. States pay fifty, federal government pay fifty. But
Speaker 5: when they expanded Obamacare, they expanded Medicaid and they made
Speaker 5: it ninety percent federal government paid for and ten percent states.
Speaker 5: If we just went back to fifty to fifty, says
Speaker 5: that had half a trillion dollars for the federal government,
Speaker 5: and it makes it a more conservative program because the
Speaker 5: states traditionally have to balance the budgets. They don't have
Speaker 5: a federal reserve. And yet we've got five or ten
Speaker 5: Republicans in the Senate that won't consider any changes to
Speaker 5: having the states paid more of their fair share for Medicaid.
Speaker 2: We're speaking of Senator Ran Paula, Kentucky Senator. Is there
Speaker 2: anything that the Trump administration you think could do or
Speaker 2: you'd like you'd like to see them do, whether it's
Speaker 2: leading the charge to try to get something through involving
Speaker 2: the Congress or just in an executive capacity using executive
Speaker 2: orders to try to tackle some of these problems. Because
Speaker 2: on the one hand, it's great that we have an
Speaker 2: administration that's trying, and you know you're trying. But on
Speaker 2: the other hand, if this doesn't work with Trump and
Speaker 2: Elon people like you and the Senate, what hope is
Speaker 2: there for it to get better in the future.
Speaker 5: Yeah, So I don't blame the administration at all. This
Speaker 5: is the best administration we've had in a lifetime. He's
Speaker 5: picked the best cabinet. They are action players. They're not
Speaker 5: waiting around. I was with Barba Kennedy for breakfast this morning.
Speaker 5: He says he's counting ten to twenty thousand workers over there.
Speaker 5: They're consolidating programs. They are doing what you would do
Speaker 5: as a CEO to clean house. So I don't blame
Speaker 5: the executive branch at all. The one thing they could do, though,
Speaker 5: is as they're finding safe Does says they've saved one
Speaker 5: hundred and forty semi billion dollars. They should send that
Speaker 5: money back to Congress. It's called recision. It has a
Speaker 5: special name, but it can be voted on by a
Speaker 5: simple majority, and some of them say, well, we're worried
Speaker 5: that four or five of the big government Republicans in
Speaker 5: the Senate won't vote for it. That's when President Trump
Speaker 5: should use his political capital. He should come to Capitol
Speaker 5: Hill and say I'm sending you fifty billions in cuts
Speaker 5: every month, I'm gonna send you another fifty billion in cuts,
Speaker 5: and I need you as Republicans to pull together on it. Instead,
Speaker 5: the pressure is coming to me to say, why won't
Speaker 5: you vote for a spending bill that attaches five speeding
Speaker 5: and new borrowing. And it's like, really, it seems like
Speaker 5: we're at odd purposes here that on the one hand
Speaker 5: you have Elon Musk and Doe's cutting. On the other hand,
Speaker 5: they're pressuring conservatives like me to vote for five trillion
Speaker 5: in borrowing. Something doesn't sit here.
Speaker 1: You see the New York Times over the weekend and
Speaker 1: ten days ago or so, a five year anniversary of COVID.
Speaker 1: I know you haven't forgotten about it, said that we
Speaker 1: were misled by where COVID might have come from, and
Speaker 1: in some of our.
Speaker 5: Responders, we were misled by the New York Times.
Speaker 1: That's right, I want to give you an opportunity to
Speaker 1: tee off on that because you were one of the
Speaker 1: first people to test positive for COVID and the way
Speaker 1: that you were treated, the way your family was treated, frankly,
Speaker 1: was unacceptable. And now five years later, I do find
Speaker 1: it very interesting that the New York Times, like you said,
Speaker 1: comes out and says, oh, you know, we were misled.
Speaker 1: It's like the arson is saying, boy, somebody's really lighting
Speaker 1: fires around here.
Speaker 5: Well, the next step, you know it, a sort of
Speaker 5: coming clean, would be to say, not only were misled,
Speaker 5: but we were misled by our government and by media
Speaker 5: establishment figures who paired it. Every move and word of
Speaker 5: Anthony Fauci. He was wrong virtually on everything. Six foot
Speaker 5: of distance, he's now admitted doesn't work, but actually was
Speaker 5: bad advice. It was probably bad advice if you were
Speaker 5: older and overweight, or of any kind of sickly nature,
Speaker 5: to be thirty feet from somebody in a closed room
Speaker 5: during the height of the pandemic, you probably should have
Speaker 5: been told to stay home. But six feet of distance,
Speaker 5: you didn't need that for kids at all. You can
Speaker 5: put them all together, because guess what, kids got it
Speaker 5: very readily, but they got over it very readily. So
Speaker 5: the idea that kids were a danger and somehow shouldn't
Speaker 5: be in school or should be six feet apart, and
Speaker 5: we should build these monstrous thousand acre schools so the
Speaker 5: kids could all be six feet apart. No science behind it,
Speaker 5: and it led to bad behavior in the form of
Speaker 5: adults who were at risk, and then inappropriate separation and
Speaker 5: school closure. On the other end, the masks they tell
Speaker 5: people were in a cloth mask was a good idea,
Speaker 5: so elderly people went in to feed their elderly spouse
Speaker 5: with a cloth mask on. Guess what, that's bad medical advice.
Speaker 5: That's how you catch COVID. The cloths don't work at all.
Speaker 5: But they went years telling people inappropriate, unhealthy behavior. And
Speaker 5: then the one thing they really failed on was once
Speaker 5: you got COVID, they should have reassured you that you
Speaker 5: didn't need a mask and you didn't have to worry
Speaker 5: about catching it again, and that the chances of you
Speaker 5: dying were basically zero. After you've got it and recovered,
Speaker 5: the chance of getting it again and dying are virtually zero.
Speaker 5: And there were a lot of good, hardworking people, people
Speaker 5: working in meat packing factories where they all got COVID
Speaker 5: early on. Instead of bundling them up in all this
Speaker 5: hot clothing, we should have been saying. The good news
Speaker 5: is when you come back from work, when you're peeled
Speaker 5: up in a week or two, guess what, You're not
Speaker 5: going to get it again and you don't have to
Speaker 5: wear all this BS protective gear.
Speaker 2: Is there anything that can be done or you think
Speaker 2: will be done? You said you just had breakfast this
Speaker 2: morning with RFK Junior. He was running HHS. I worry
Speaker 2: doc that, well you are doc as well as a senator,
Speaker 2: so but I worry that the doctors out there and
Speaker 2: the medical establishment has not been forced to finally admit
Speaker 2: that they were wrong. And as a matter of government
Speaker 2: administrative policy, have these things changed. I mean it should
Speaker 2: now be to me, at least AHHS that have officially
Speaker 2: Hey guys, we looked at all the data mass don't work.
Speaker 2: This is on the AHHS website just so you know,
Speaker 2: is that coming.
Speaker 5: You know, that's a good point, and I'm going to
Speaker 5: keep fighting that battle as well. But the other way
Speaker 5: to correct it is is like all the soldiers that
Speaker 5: were fired, they are giving them, you know, the Trump
Speaker 5: administration's position now, and I think it was done by
Speaker 5: executive orders to let them get their jobs back. We
Speaker 5: should do that to the doctors and nurses that were
Speaker 5: fired as well. So think about it, the doctors and nurses.
Speaker 5: If you were a doctor working in February March of
Speaker 5: twenty twenty, it was a pre potent disease then, and
Speaker 5: there were doctors who died. If you risked your life
Speaker 5: to help people, you got COVID, you survived, and you
Speaker 5: came back to work, and then they said, oh, you're
Speaker 5: fired because you don't have a vaccine. And you're like, well,
Speaker 5: wait a minute, I got the disease. Why would I
Speaker 5: need to get vaccine and have already got the disease,
Speaker 5: and you use common sense on them, they fired you.
Speaker 5: Those people ought to be reinstated. There's still thousands of
Speaker 5: doctors and nurses now in some states. We tried to
Speaker 5: fix some of this. In Florida, they passed a law
Speaker 5: that said you cannot take a doctor's license for speech. Now,
Speaker 5: that would seem to be pretty obvious, but many states,
Speaker 5: including California, were saying if if you were to say
Speaker 5: things that I said often that children don't need to
Speaker 5: be vaccinated for COVID, they would say, oh, you can't
Speaker 5: say that, and they would try to take my license away.
Speaker 5: Nobody did, but in California they did to other doctors
Speaker 5: who were saying similar things. There's a lot of things
Speaker 5: that need to be corrected. I think we've learned some lessons,
Speaker 5: but I fear one we're still paying for research that
Speaker 5: could turn into this nightmare again gain a function. Research
Speaker 5: still happening in the US and outside the US funded
Speaker 5: by tax players. I'm still working on getting that stopped.
Speaker 5: But also we need to make sure that the essence
Speaker 5: of medical freedom exists in our country and that people
Speaker 5: are allowed to make choices for themselves and not be bullied.
Speaker 2: Senator Paul always appreciate you making the time for us.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 5: Thanks guys.
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Speaker 1: Walk back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all
Speaker 1: of you hanging out with us. We had some by
Speaker 1: the way, a lot of you want to weigh in,
Speaker 1: you can always weigh in on the talkback. We'll play
Speaker 1: some of those. Will also take some of your calls
Speaker 1: eight hundred and two A two two eight A two
Speaker 1: with the things that we were already talking about. But Buck,
Speaker 1: I wanted to come back because we talked about the
Speaker 1: Governor of Texas, Greg Abbott, being insulted with the governor
Speaker 1: hot Wheels line, and we said, hey.
Speaker 2: I loved your idea.
Speaker 1: Put some like flames on the wheels like I said,
Speaker 1: wear a governor hot Wheels T shirt. I don't like
Speaker 1: personally the idea, and I think you're in my camp
Speaker 1: here to Buck, when people say mean things to you,
Speaker 1: I think pretending to be offended by people saying mean
Speaker 1: things is actually a weak look. I think I don't
Speaker 1: think it looks good for Republicans to be like, oh,
Speaker 1: so and so said something mean about me, and this
Speaker 1: is like, that's what democrats do. And I don't think
Speaker 1: we should play into that game. Right The word policing
Speaker 1: the on my feelings are hurt. I think mockery and
Speaker 1: ridicule and humor is the way to handle things like this.
Speaker 2: Yes, and sometimes even mockery can be quite helpful. Like
Speaker 2: when one of you told me that I was starting
Speaker 2: to look like Missus Doubtfire and wasn't handsome anymore. I
Speaker 2: decided it was time to lose some weight.
Speaker 1: Wow, that's a that's a tough hit, Missus Doubtfire. I mean,
Speaker 1: oh hello, yeah wow.
Speaker 2: Well now see, there you go.
Speaker 1: Sometimes mockery and ridicule can can lead to good results.
Speaker 2: And honestly, now now, thanks to that mean person, I'll
Speaker 2: be grading parmesan on my abs before long. So there
Speaker 2: we go. So there you go.
Speaker 1: You insult Buck and now you've got him back in shape.
Speaker 1: And sometimes that is the motivation, right like, sometimes people
Speaker 1: saying mean things to you can lead to a better result.
Speaker 1: This is uh, this is part of why you know
Speaker 1: tough love in athletic teams sometimes leads to better Cluly does.
Speaker 2: Not apply to people with lifelong disabilities, though, So yes,
Speaker 2: you should not be making jokes about about Governor Greg Abbotts.
Speaker 1: So but Greg Abbott has the opportunity to really kind
Speaker 1: of lean in this into this in a funny way.
Speaker 1: And you know what, Jasmine Crockett could have come out
Speaker 1: and said, Hey, I'm gonna say It's what I would
Speaker 1: have said. Hey, I'm gonna say sometimes jokes you may
Speaker 1: not like. Uh, that's life. If you don't like it,
Speaker 1: don't have to vote for me. But I my constituents
Speaker 1: are probably still going to keep voting for me, and
Speaker 1: they understand that I'm not going to be perfect, but
Speaker 1: my goal is to fight for them. Like, there's easy
Speaker 1: ways to handle this. Again, I can just off the
Speaker 1: cuff give what the answer should be. Trump certainly has
Speaker 1: levied his fair share of insults over the years, and
Speaker 1: so I think when Republicans like try to be offended
Speaker 1: by things that people say, I.
Speaker 2: Just personally think it's a poor look.
Speaker 1: Okay, With that in mind, Jasmincrockett tried to say, she
Speaker 1: didn't say, Hey, I'm gonna make jokes. Sometimes they're going
Speaker 1: to land inappropriately. That's life, deal with it. We're all adults.
Speaker 1: Kind of what I would say. She said, Oh, I
Speaker 1: wasn't referring to the governor being in a wheelchair when
Speaker 1: I called him governor hot wheels. But she has been
Speaker 1: calling him governor hot wheels for some time now. People
Speaker 1: went back, She's done it on Facebook posts, She's done
Speaker 1: it on all sorts of different places. She tried to say, oh,
Speaker 1: this is about the deportation policies. She's been doing this
Speaker 1: for years. She's making fun of him. But because he's
Speaker 1: in a wheelchair and calling him governor hot wheels, here
Speaker 1: she is and yet another conversation.
Speaker 2: I think this a couple of years ago.
Speaker 4: Listen, so the governor called a special session to get
Speaker 4: his moter suppression bills through and we have to say, yes.
Speaker 2: Hot wheels.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sorry that is that she is mocking
Speaker 1: him because he's in a wheelchair. Now trying to argue
Speaker 1: and say, oh, I'm like, this is just a reference
Speaker 1: to the fact that buses have wheels and we're putting
Speaker 1: people on buses and saying, no, you've been doing this
Speaker 1: for years. You've been making fun of the governor because
Speaker 1: he's in a wheelchair. And maybe this is a term
Speaker 1: that is used in democrats circles beyond Jasmine Crockett. Maybe
Speaker 1: it's something that's talked about privately, not usually said publicly.
Speaker 1: But I do think it's important to call people out,
Speaker 1: not necessarily for what they say, although that's important, but
Speaker 1: when you blatantly lie about what you said and try
Speaker 1: to gaslight it and convince us that what you said
Speaker 1: wasn't what you actually said, it actually is worse. Like
Speaker 1: I think you said this yesterday. Doubling down and trying
Speaker 1: to make up an excuse on this, to me is
Speaker 1: worse than just being like, hey, it's a joke name
Speaker 1: I have for him. I don't like his policies, and
Speaker 1: you cannot like it. I mean, I can easily come
Speaker 1: up with a reason why she could, why she could
Speaker 1: explain this.
Speaker 2: This goes along with a much broader trend in the
Speaker 2: Democrat Party, which is it's one thing when they lie
Speaker 2: to us. It's another thing when they lie to people
Speaker 2: that they're trying to fool, but when they lie to
Speaker 2: their own side, like to their base.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 2: So there's line to Republicans, that's of course what they
Speaker 2: do every day. There's lying to swing voters that's called
Speaker 2: every election cycle for Democrats for all of my lifetime.
Speaker 2: And then there's lying to like the MSNBC watchers, right,
Speaker 2: Biden doesn't have dementia, for example, Yes, they made them
Speaker 2: look foolish. They made their own people look like they're
Speaker 2: easy to mislead and and that their buffoons basically that
Speaker 2: they will not forgive so easily when you say something
Speaker 2: like this and it's so easily provable that you are lying,
Speaker 2: it's it insults the intelligence of your own audience. It's
Speaker 2: basically what I'm what I'm getting at. It insults the
Speaker 2: intelligence of the people that you're supposed to be on
Speaker 2: the team with. And so that's why this is not
Speaker 2: This is not a win for Congresswoman Crockett other than
Speaker 2: her name is getting out there a whole lot, and
Speaker 2: her name unfortunately conflicts with America's greatest coffee company, which
Speaker 2: you're gonna have to keep on trying to just deal with,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Unfortunate that the Crockett in Texas would end up being
Speaker 1: a crazy woman as opposed to a badass sort of legacy.
Speaker 2: Uh imagine if she was really like I imagine, if
Speaker 2: she was like a great you know, patriot, a conservative,
Speaker 2: a constitutionalist, and was like a rising star in the
Speaker 2: Republican Party, We'd be sending your Crockett sweatshirts. It'd be fantastic,
Speaker 2: totally true Unfortunately, that's not where we are. I do hope.
Speaker 1: Let me just implore upon this, because I know there
Speaker 1: are a lot of congressman senators. They're staffed White House
Speaker 1: people who listen. Please don't fall into the trap of
Speaker 1: trying to be offended by things that people say. And
Speaker 1: I would encourage all of you out there listening to
Speaker 1: us too, please do not fall into this circular firing squad.
Speaker 1: I think we're and I think you would agree with
Speaker 1: me on this, Buck, I think we're moving out of
Speaker 1: the era of somebody sent a tweet or a Facebook
Speaker 1: post or an Instagram post or whatever it is, and
Speaker 1: they can never be employed ever again, because, oh my goodness,
Speaker 1: can you believe what that one post said? Whether you
Speaker 1: work at Low's department stores, or whether you work at McDonald's,
Speaker 1: or whether you work in a congressional office, or you're
Speaker 1: doing something like what Buck and I do, the idea of, hey,
Speaker 1: somebody screwed something up and therefore they should never be
Speaker 1: able to be employed again because they have an opinion
Speaker 1: that's considered to be unacceptable. I just I fundamentally reject
Speaker 1: that on all levels. So I don't want in this
Speaker 1: era for Republicans to start to adopt the Democrat policies
Speaker 1: of oh, somebody said something mean, mock ridicule, satirize, use
Speaker 1: humor to point out how absurd they are and what
Speaker 1: they said. But please do not try and play the
Speaker 1: victim card. I'm so sick of the victim card, and
Speaker 1: I'm afraid because I see it a little bit. I
Speaker 1: see it a little bit now kind of starting to
Speaker 1: pop up as Republicans have more cultural ascendancy, where you're saying, oh,
Speaker 1: somebody said something mean about me, and they should not
Speaker 1: be able to have a job anymore. I don't want
Speaker 1: us to go down that path. Does that make sense, Like,
Speaker 1: I'm afraid when you have a little bit more cultural powers,
Speaker 1: don't start trying to play it. I've seen it start
Speaker 1: to happen just occasionally on social media with somebody says
Speaker 1: something and it's like anyway, it's it's it's easy to
Speaker 1: get that sugar high of hey, somebody said something mean
Speaker 1: about me, and like I'm a victim. Resist it, attack it,
Speaker 1: have fun with it, attack the idea, but don't I
Speaker 1: don't want cancel culture to emerge on the Republican side
Speaker 1: of the equation.
Speaker 2: If that makes sense, Yeah, Yeah, well I don't think
Speaker 2: it will because I think that cancel culture is inherently
Speaker 2: a you know, for for guys, it's very very beta
Speaker 2: male activity. It's very uh, it's very as I said before,
Speaker 2: very low tee very what are you doing with yourself here?
Speaker 2: You know it, don't be don't be such a little girl.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I think that there's less likelihood that our
Speaker 2: our team is going to start going down the cancel
Speaker 2: culture path. And it's been a it's been a wild ride.
Speaker 2: I will say that because in media there has been
Speaker 2: there was a period of time where they were going
Speaker 2: after people like me, oh like Clay in a big
Speaker 2: what rush went through.
Speaker 1: I mean, they they basically tried to pull every advertiser
Speaker 1: off this show, you know, six seven years ago, as
Speaker 1: many of you listening know. But there were they were
Speaker 1: they were smart in the way that they went after advertisers,
Speaker 1: and they found out that a lot of advertisers are
Speaker 1: very cowardly. And if they even have this astro turf
Speaker 1: fake campaign.
Speaker 2: It was over a decade ago, is what you're talking about,
Speaker 2: just seeing it was a long Yeah, it was a
Speaker 2: long time ago, but but it is emblematic that's really
Speaker 2: kind of when they started to hit their stride, and
Speaker 2: it picked up for years and years and years, and
Speaker 2: they really managed to do a good job of trying
Speaker 2: to terrify advertisers and make them think that these kind
Speaker 2: of responses were real. Look, there there were a number
Speaker 2: of people on our side of the political isle who
Speaker 2: were big, big names, big voices, and they did not
Speaker 2: bend the knee, and we should always rush obviously. It
Speaker 2: was you know, they wanted to take Rush down for
Speaker 2: so many years, and the fact that he just kept
Speaker 2: on showing up and being the voice and the leader
Speaker 2: that he was in this country and that they couldn't
Speaker 2: stop him was so important, right he was. He was
Speaker 2: like the bulldozer running through all the barbed wire of
Speaker 2: the communists. I mean, he just would not and they
Speaker 2: tried everything they could. But there were there were others
Speaker 2: also they tried to cancel. I remember they went after
Speaker 2: Remember they went after Tucker early on when he was
Speaker 2: at Fox and No. But early on when he was
Speaker 2: at Fox and A big he had gone on some
Speaker 2: different radio shows. I never found the.
Speaker 1: Jokes that he had made years ago, and they were.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was on kind of a kind of a
Speaker 2: body radio show. If I may say so, it's a
Speaker 2: bit body and you know, a little a little bit
Speaker 2: on the salty side. And he went on and instead
Speaker 2: of you know, going on his show on Fox, and
Speaker 2: this was early and they were so they were hoping
Speaker 2: to just tear him down so quickly he was like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I see some people found that I said some naughty
Speaker 2: words a long time ago. Good luck with that.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 2: Just totally was like, not, how happening. And because he
Speaker 2: took that position, I actually remember I was texting with
Speaker 2: him when he did that, and I was like, I
Speaker 2: know that that's who you are, and so you didn't
Speaker 2: do it for this reason, but you actually just did
Speaker 2: all the rest of us a favor because by you
Speaker 2: refusing to bend the knee, it means that the rest
Speaker 2: of us coming up in the ranks behind you can
Speaker 2: also do the same.
Speaker 1: I one hundred percent agree with that, And I would
Speaker 1: just point out that I think it actually ties in
Speaker 1: a bit with the signal controversy that came out this week.
Speaker 1: I think Trump has decided I am not going to
Speaker 1: give an inch to any of my critics and ever
Speaker 1: fire anybody by and large because they're coming completely without
Speaker 1: good faith. And they believe that if they can get
Speaker 1: one scalp that they It's not like they're ever going
Speaker 1: to be satisfied. Right, Let's say that Trump suddenly said, hey,
Speaker 1: this is unacceptable, I'm firing X. It's not like they're
Speaker 1: going to say, well, we'll go easy on Trump when
Speaker 1: why happens because he did X. Right, they don't have
Speaker 1: a good obligation. They're not trying to solve things here.
Speaker 1: So I've been doing this now. This is pretty astonishing
Speaker 1: when I say this out loud.
Speaker 2: I've been doing this now for fifty This will be
Speaker 2: fifteen years, which is which is great, especially for those
Speaker 2: of you who think I look like I'm still in college.
Speaker 2: I've been doing this for fifteen years. And at the beginning, Clay,
Speaker 2: I remember there was the there was the in this
Speaker 2: cancel culture world. It was the apology tour thing, yeah right,
Speaker 2: which I actually think in some ways is the worst.
Speaker 2: We have to go like I am so sorry that
Speaker 2: I used the word or that I said the thing,
Speaker 2: and you go on like these kind of small sea
Speaker 2: daytime talk shows. They're just like, oh, are you really
Speaker 2: like a changed person? Learned? For an actress, I've learned
Speaker 2: like and then you make the you make the requisite.
Speaker 2: You know, I've become a better person. And also I'm
Speaker 2: making a donation to some foundation that you know is
Speaker 2: is all about whatever the issue, whoever you offended, you
Speaker 2: made the donation. But then it changed, and it really changed.
Speaker 2: I say me, like by the end of Obama term
Speaker 2: one in my mind at least, and it started to
Speaker 2: turn into you have to apologize. You just said that.
Speaker 2: And then it was well, now we're going to take
Speaker 2: your career like now you have even when you apologize,
Speaker 2: we take your head. You're fired, you're done, you know.
Speaker 2: And now we've finally broken out of that where it's no,
Speaker 2: don't bend the knee. If you bend the knee, they
Speaker 2: take your head. So it's been a it's been a
Speaker 2: wild ride, like I said, but I think.
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