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Speaker 1: Looking Thursday edition Clay Travis buck Sexton Show.

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Speaker 2: We appreciate all.

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Speaker 1: Of you hanging out with us as we are rolling

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Speaker 1: into what should be another fun show with all of you.

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Speaker 1: Senat Rampaul is going to join us at two, that

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Speaker 1: is a couple of hours from now and give us

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Speaker 1: the latest on how the big beautiful Bill is progressing

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Speaker 1: in the Senate. Remember, despite all of the attention this

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Speaker 1: week on the signal chat of Pete hex At, JD.

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Speaker 1: Vans and others, the big story remains that the border bill,

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Speaker 1: as well as the tax bill and the overall budget

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Speaker 1: priorities of President Trump for the next several years, is

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Speaker 1: winding its way through the capital process and there is

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Speaker 1: still a lot of work to be done there, with

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Speaker 1: the hope that sometime in May it will be officially complete,

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Speaker 1: but lots of pulling to do on the House side

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Speaker 1: from Senator ran Paul there as well as whether that

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Speaker 1: new budget can help we hope to create at least

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Speaker 1: some of a clawback on the growth of the national deficit,

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Speaker 1: which is at thirty six trillion dollars and continuing to

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Speaker 1: expand as we all speak Trump has been effective in

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Speaker 1: getting more of the Venezuelan gang leaders arrested. We'll talk

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Speaker 1: about that a little bit press conference earlier this morning,

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Speaker 1: but he had a press conference yesterday, and I want

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Speaker 1: to play some of those cuts for you. As Trump

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Speaker 1: took command of the national story. I will say, Buck,

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Speaker 1: and I think you'll sign off on this. The seagonal

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Speaker 1: story seems to be basically done now. It took a

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Speaker 1: that story is now behind us. And I'm sure there

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Speaker 1: will be a new emergence of a top story in

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Speaker 1: the near future. But right now is what is going

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Speaker 1: on seems to have vanished. And I think, Buck, if

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Speaker 1: it's being played at all, it's mostly being played for

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Speaker 1: laughs at this point, as opposed to anything else. But

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Speaker 1: here is President Trump yesterday saying, on a day when

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Speaker 1: they were honoring the number of women involved in his

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Speaker 1: administration as a part of a women's history celebration, Guess what,

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Speaker 1: no matter how many surgeries you have, a man is

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Speaker 1: not a woman.

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Speaker 2: This is cut for no.

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Speaker 3: Matter how many surgeries you have or chemicals you inject,

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Speaker 3: if you're born with male DNA and every cell off

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Speaker 3: your body, you can never become a woman.

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Speaker 2: You're not going to be a woman.

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Speaker 4: Laugh.

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Speaker 3: And that's why last month I proudly signed a historic

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Speaker 3: executive order to ban men from competing in women's sports.

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Speaker 3: And who is very popular, very.

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Speaker 1: So that is very popular book positive news here. I

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Speaker 1: mean to me, this goes to the essence of whether

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Speaker 1: truth is real or not? Is biology real or not?

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Speaker 1: The World Track and Field Association now says, hey, we're

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Speaker 1: gonna cheek swab every woman who is competing in women's

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Speaker 1: all women. And this is important because I don't know

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Speaker 1: if we talked about this on the show, but I've

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Speaker 1: been doing research. Do you know that every women's track

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Speaker 1: the fastest women in the history of the world. Are

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Speaker 1: all slower than a fourteen or fifteen year old male sprinter.

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Speaker 1: That's how much biology matters. We're not even talking about

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Speaker 2: When it comes to that remarkable that Trump says this,

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Speaker 2: and they still will deny it, and they'll pretend that

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Speaker 2: it's not true. They will talk around the issue. But

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Speaker 2: the statement, if you're born with male DNA and every

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Speaker 2: You're not going to become a woman. This should be

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Speaker 2: the most straightforward, incontrovertible thing. The sky is blue, right,

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Speaker 2: This is the most straightforward statement of fact you can

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Speaker 2: worse than controversial, it's bigoted, clay. If you believe this,

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Speaker 2: you were a bad person. And you know, we're starting

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Speaker 2: to see also the data compiled on what really the

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Speaker 2: recent mass shootings, for example, the most notable one in Nashville.

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Speaker 2: You're supposed to forget all about this because they don't

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Speaker 2: sets the new track and field record for the eight

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Speaker 2: hundred meters against a bunch of girls, you're supposed to

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Speaker 2: do that. They really believe this, or rather they really

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Speaker 2: say it. I can't tell you what they believe on

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Speaker 2: an individual basis. So I think Trump needs to keep

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Speaker 2: hammering this home because Clay once they're in charge, who

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Speaker 2: knows Democrats they might Biden was putting forward guidance on

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Speaker 2: transurgery for miners from the White House, Joe Biden. That

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Speaker 2: was reality under a Democrat administration. So this battle is

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Speaker 2: not over, and this fight for sanity continues no matter

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Speaker 2: how much they say, why are you focusing on this?

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Speaker 2: I also think that and this is not going to

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Speaker 2: surprise any of you. We talked about how Caroline Levitt

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Speaker 2: by being the youngest White House Press secretary ever who

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Speaker 2: was also raising an eight month old son right now,

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Speaker 2: but Trump pointed out that his cabinet actually has more

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Speaker 2: women than any Republican president in the history of the country.

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Speaker 2: I haven't seen that headline anywhere, of course you wouldn't

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Speaker 2: because it's Trump and nothing positive he does. But he

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Speaker 3: I'm also thrilled to say that we have more women

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Speaker 3: in our cabinet than any Republican president in the history

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Speaker 3: of our country. And joining us today is a woman

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Speaker 3: I've known a long time. You talk about strong women,

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Speaker 3: I'm in deep trouble because I'm surrounded. I got the

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Speaker 1: Buck, you know that strong woman comment. You remember who

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Speaker 1: said that in the campaign that Trump refused to surround

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Speaker 1: himself with strong women, and then they basically sidelined him.

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Speaker 1: It was a guy, our good buddy, Mark Cuban. And

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Speaker 2: I remember, now, I remember gotten that sounds like honestly,

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Speaker 1: That is that they basically sided Remember Mark Cuban became

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Speaker 1: then he made those comments and they went megaviral, and

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Speaker 1: the campaign, in the October, the final sprint, and they

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Speaker 1: I think that was the that was the Zuckerberg alternative,

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Speaker 1: important to emphasize here that Trump has not only we

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Speaker 1: and even Disney can't afford to keep doing this stuff.

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Speaker 1: You no one can afford to light hundreds of millions

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Speaker 1: I don't think the individuals in charge have necessarily changed

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Speaker 1: And this has been a part of a long transformation.

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Speaker 1: we are in a time of change in the narrative

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Speaker 1: not about Clay, who's a true believer. Now I think

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Speaker 1: the market has changed. That's a difference, right, It's not oh,

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Speaker 1: about the parallel economy, Yes, increasingly, this is just the

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Speaker 1: That's right, and it's very important that that. But and

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Speaker 1: bud light, and we've used that as an example. You

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Speaker 2: doing everything that we want them to do and then some.

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Speaker 2: make meaningful, lasting change for the United States in very

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Speaker 2: positive ways. This this midterm election is going to be

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Speaker 2: It's going to be a dogfight.

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Speaker 5: It just is.

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Speaker 2: That's the reality of being the party in power. And

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Speaker 2: it's not like we're going into it with fifteen or

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Speaker 2: the hearings, they'll find something. They'll be having hearings on

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Speaker 2: just going to go into. Anything to slow down and

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Speaker 2: mess up Trump is justified and necessary. So it's it

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Speaker 2: reminds us all that there is a finite window here

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Speaker 2: to get very important stuff done to fix the country.

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Speaker 2: Hopefully it doesn't become an issue because we keep the

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Speaker 2: majority and Trump can keep doing great stuff. But you can't.

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Speaker 2: You can't plan on that. You gotta plan on getting

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Speaker 2: it done now, no doubt.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate all of you hanging out with us.

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Speaker 1: We've been breaking down all of the absolute latest news

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Speaker 1: out there from across the nation, and we head now

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Speaker 1: up to I believe or he is, Washington, d C.

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Speaker 1: Senator Ran Paul of Kentucky joins us. Now, Senator, we

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Speaker 1: got a lot to dive into with you. Appreciate you

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Speaker 1: joining us. Let me just start here right off the top.

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Speaker 1: How is the budget and border bill process going? How

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Speaker 1: does the timeline look to you? How would you assess

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Speaker 1: it at this point?

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Speaker 5: I'm worried. I'm very worried that they're wanting to add

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Speaker 5: five trillion dollars to the debt ceiling. All the good

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Speaker 5: news we've heard about Elon Musk, about cutting contracts and

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Speaker 5: cutting born aide. All that has been so energizing to

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Speaker 5: our base. To conservatives like me, we jump for joy,

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Speaker 5: we cheer, and then they say, well, but the bill's

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Speaker 5: going to increase the debt ceiling by five filing And

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Speaker 5: we say, well, how is that possible. We thought we

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Speaker 5: were cutting spending. Why would we increase it more than

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Speaker 5: two trillion dollars a year for the next two and

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Speaker 5: a half years. And there's not a good explanation. And

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Speaker 5: so I've told them I won't vote for any bill

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Speaker 5: that adds five trillion to the deficit. That's not physically conservative. Now,

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Speaker 5: I'll vote for the tax cuts I voted for him

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Speaker 5: in twenty seventeen. I'll vote to make the tax cuts permanent.

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Speaker 5: I'll vote for spending cuts, but I didn't vote for

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Speaker 5: the spending And I'm damn sure not voting for adding

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Speaker 5: five trillion dollars to the national debt. I just think

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Speaker 5: that's outrageous. And people are going to wake up. People

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Speaker 5: who listen to your show, We're going to wake up

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Speaker 5: in a couple of months from now and say, my gosh,

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Speaker 5: I thought we voted for something conservative. I thought those

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Speaker 5: was cutting all this spending, and yet they're still going

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Speaker 5: to add two trillion to the death this year.

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Speaker 2: Something's not right, you know, Senator Paul, appreciate you being

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Speaker 2: with us. We've played for the audience some sound bites

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Speaker 2: from years past when people like Nancy Pelosi, Barack Obama,

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Speaker 2: and other very high profile Democrats talk about stopping fraud, waste,

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Speaker 2: and abuse in government spending, reining in unnecessary spending. So

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Speaker 2: we know that they've said stuff like that, But to

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Speaker 2: where we are right now, it seems like everything that

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Speaker 2: and then everything that Trump tries to do to rein

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Speaker 2: in that spending Democrats opposed. Are there any Democrats in

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Speaker 2: the Senate who do want to cut spending? In all honesty,

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Speaker 2: is there anyone who actually wants to see that number

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Speaker 2: go down for anything other than the military?

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Speaker 5: Zero? Not a No Democrat in the entire body of

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Speaker 5: Congress will vote to cut even a dollar. So I

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Speaker 5: had an amendment last week that would have cut about oh,

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Speaker 5: sixteen billion out of four and eight. Four and eight

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Speaker 5: is about forty billion. I would have cut sixteen billions.

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Speaker 5: A little less than a half. And this was to

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Speaker 5: represent what Doze was doing, what Elon Musk had proposed,

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Speaker 5: what really Secretary Rubio has already said he's canceling these contracts.

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Speaker 5: I would just put it into law. Zero Democrats voted

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Speaker 5: for that, but even worse, about half the Republicans voted

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Speaker 5: of the Republicans with me, about half the Republicans against me.

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Speaker 5: And the reason I put it forward was to show

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Speaker 5: that even low hanging fruit, even two million dollars for

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Speaker 5: sex changes in Guatemala, three hundred thousand dollars for food

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Speaker 5: justice for queer and trans farmers, crazy stuff like that,

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Speaker 5: you can't even get all of the Republicans on board,

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Speaker 5: but you get zero Democrats. So we still have a problem.

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Speaker 5: And I'm the lonely voice crying out on this because

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Speaker 5: be upset, and they're going to be saying, what happened?

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Speaker 5: What happened to the Republicans When the end of the

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Speaker 5: year rolls around and there's still a two trillion dollar

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Speaker 5: deficit this year and the Republicans are anticipating another two

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Speaker 5: trillion the next year that it just shows that there

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Speaker 5: is not a true seriousness, even on the Republican side.

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Speaker 1: How much of this is the embedded cost of COVID

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Speaker 1: becoming standardized in budgets going forward, Because we had Senator

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Speaker 1: Ron Johnson on and he's talked about this quite a lot,

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Speaker 1: that if we just went back to budget spending twenty nineteen,

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Speaker 1: that we would have a balanced budget right now. I

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Speaker 1: know inflation has risen since then and that there are

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Speaker 1: other costs that continue to grow, but it does seem

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Speaker 1: that the growth of the federal government has now been embedded,

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Speaker 1: which is what Democrats wanted in all future budget bills,

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Speaker 1: with the idea being anything that doesn't continue to grow

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Speaker 1: those rates is considered to be a massive cut.

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Speaker 5: I think that's true. During pandemic, you know, the deficit

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Speaker 5: went up to three and a half trillion in a year.

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Speaker 5: The deficits have come down, so remember Biden was bragging

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Speaker 5: he's bringing the deficit down. Yeah, well from three and

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Speaker 5: a half trillion to two trillion. But a lot of

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Speaker 5: that spending got embedded into government and still there. But

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Speaker 5: realize that those pandemic programs, all the free money that

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Speaker 5: was passed up, all the checks that were passed out.

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Speaker 5: That was all the Democrats and most of the Republicans.

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Speaker 5: That was a bipartisan screw up. If you will to

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Speaker 5: lock the economy down, just print up money. I opposed

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Speaker 5: every bit of it, every bit of the Cares program

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Speaker 5: the PPP. I said, you shouldn't lock us down, we

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Speaker 5: But part of it is this disconnect that people will say, oh,

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Speaker 5: they love you on us, they love the cuts, and

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Speaker 5: they're not for you know, transgender surgery in Guatemala, and

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Speaker 5: they're not for all these crazy trans operas in Columbia.

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Speaker 5: But when push comes to shove, they're at least ten

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Speaker 5: it's one of the worst and most egregious of all

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Speaker 5: the spending we have in Congress. And yet if they

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Speaker 5: won't cut that, you then say, well, will you cut

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Speaker 5: any of the entitlements? Will you look at Medicare or

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Speaker 5: Medicaid or cert security or food stamps or welfare. Oh no,

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Speaker 5: they're not looking at that either. And you start to

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Speaker 5: wonder all these Republicans really conservative at this point. And

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Speaker 5: mind you, there are zero Democrats. I admit that there

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Speaker 5: are zero Democrats. But we're trying to pass something this

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Speaker 5: more of their fair share. So Medicaid normally it's fifty

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Speaker 5: to fifty. States pay fifty, federal government pay fifty. But

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Speaker 5: when they expanded Obamacare, they expanded Medicaid and they made

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Speaker 5: it ninety percent federal government paid for and ten percent states.

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Speaker 5: If we just went back to fifty to fifty, says

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Speaker 5: and it makes it a more conservative program because the

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Speaker 5: states traditionally have to balance the budgets. They don't have

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Speaker 5: a federal reserve. And yet we've got five or ten

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Speaker 2: We're speaking of Senator Ran Paula, Kentucky Senator. Is there

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Speaker 2: anything that the Trump administration you think could do or

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Speaker 2: you'd like you'd like to see them do, whether it's

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Speaker 2: leading the charge to try to get something through involving

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Speaker 2: the other hand, if this doesn't work with Trump and

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Speaker 2: Elon people like you and the Senate, what hope is

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Speaker 5: Yeah, So I don't blame the administration at all. This

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Speaker 5: is the best administration we've had in a lifetime. He's

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Speaker 5: picked the best cabinet. They are action players. They're not

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Speaker 5: waiting around. I was with Barba Kennedy for breakfast this morning.

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Speaker 5: He says he's counting ten to twenty thousand workers over there.

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Speaker 5: They're consolidating programs. They are doing what you would do

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Speaker 5: as a CEO to clean house. So I don't blame

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Speaker 5: the executive branch at all. The one thing they could do, though,

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Speaker 5: is as they're finding safe Does says they've saved one

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Speaker 5: hundred and forty semi billion dollars. They should send that

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Speaker 5: money back to Congress. It's called recision. It has a

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Speaker 5: special name, but it can be voted on by a

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Speaker 5: simple majority, and some of them say, well, we're worried

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Speaker 5: that four or five of the big government Republicans in

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Speaker 5: the Senate won't vote for it. That's when President Trump

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Speaker 5: should use his political capital. He should come to Capitol

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Speaker 5: Hill and say I'm sending you fifty billions in cuts

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Speaker 5: every month, I'm gonna send you another fifty billion in cuts,

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Speaker 5: and I need you as Republicans to pull together on it. Instead,

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Speaker 5: the pressure is coming to me to say, why won't

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Speaker 5: you vote for a spending bill that attaches five speeding

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Speaker 5: and new borrowing. And it's like, really, it seems like

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Speaker 5: we're at odd purposes here that on the one hand

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Speaker 5: they're pressuring conservatives like me to vote for five trillion

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Speaker 5: in borrowing. Something doesn't sit here.

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Speaker 1: You see the New York Times over the weekend and

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Speaker 1: ten days ago or so, a five year anniversary of COVID.

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Speaker 1: I know you haven't forgotten about it, said that we

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Speaker 1: were misled by where COVID might have come from, and

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Speaker 1: in some of our.

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Speaker 5: Responders, we were misled by the New York Times.

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Speaker 1: That's right, I want to give you an opportunity to

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Speaker 1: tee off on that because you were one of the

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Speaker 1: first people to test positive for COVID and the way

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Speaker 1: that you were treated, the way your family was treated, frankly,

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Speaker 1: was unacceptable. And now five years later, I do find

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Speaker 1: it very interesting that the New York Times, like you said,

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Speaker 1: comes out and says, oh, you know, we were misled.

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Speaker 1: It's like the arson is saying, boy, somebody's really lighting

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Speaker 1: fires around here.

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Speaker 5: Well, the next step, you know it, a sort of

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Speaker 5: coming clean, would be to say, not only were misled,

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Speaker 5: but we were misled by our government and by media

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Speaker 5: establishment figures who paired it. Every move and word of

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Speaker 5: Anthony Fauci. He was wrong virtually on everything. Six foot

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00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 5: of distance, he's now admitted doesn't work, but actually was

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00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 5: bad advice. It was probably bad advice if you were

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Speaker 5: older and overweight, or of any kind of sickly nature,

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Speaker 5: to be thirty feet from somebody in a closed room

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Speaker 5: during the height of the pandemic, you probably should have

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Speaker 5: been told to stay home. But six feet of distance,

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00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 5: you didn't need that for kids at all. You can

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Speaker 5: put them all together, because guess what, kids got it

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Speaker 5: very readily, but they got over it very readily. So

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Speaker 5: the idea that kids were a danger and somehow shouldn't

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Speaker 5: be in school or should be six feet apart, and

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Speaker 5: we should build these monstrous thousand acre schools so the

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Speaker 5: kids could all be six feet apart. No science behind it,

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Speaker 5: and it led to bad behavior in the form of

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Speaker 5: adults who were at risk, and then inappropriate separation and

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Speaker 5: school closure. On the other end, the masks they tell

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Speaker 5: people were in a cloth mask was a good idea,

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00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 5: so elderly people went in to feed their elderly spouse

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00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:53,840
Speaker 5: with a cloth mask on. Guess what, that's bad medical advice.

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00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:56,840
Speaker 5: That's how you catch COVID. The cloths don't work at all.

691
00:37:57,239 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 5: But they went years telling people inappropriate, unhealthy behavior. And

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Speaker 5: then the one thing they really failed on was once

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Speaker 5: you got COVID, they should have reassured you that you

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Speaker 5: didn't need a mask and you didn't have to worry

695
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Speaker 5: about catching it again, and that the chances of you

696
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Speaker 5: dying were basically zero. After you've got it and recovered,

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Speaker 5: the chance of getting it again and dying are virtually zero.

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Speaker 5: And there were a lot of good, hardworking people, people

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Speaker 5: working in meat packing factories where they all got COVID

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Speaker 5: early on. Instead of bundling them up in all this

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Speaker 5: hot clothing, we should have been saying. The good news

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Speaker 5: is when you come back from work, when you're peeled

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Speaker 5: up in a week or two, guess what, You're not

704
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Speaker 5: going to get it again and you don't have to

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Speaker 5: wear all this BS protective gear.

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Speaker 2: Is there anything that can be done or you think

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Speaker 2: will be done? You said you just had breakfast this

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Speaker 2: morning with RFK Junior. He was running HHS. I worry

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Speaker 2: doc that, well you are doc as well as a senator,

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Speaker 2: so but I worry that the doctors out there and

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Speaker 2: the medical establishment has not been forced to finally admit

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Speaker 2: that they were wrong. And as a matter of government

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Speaker 2: administrative policy, have these things changed. I mean it should

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Speaker 2: now be to me, at least AHHS that have officially

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Speaker 2: Hey guys, we looked at all the data mass don't work.

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Speaker 2: This is on the AHHS website just so you know,

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Speaker 2: is that coming.

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Speaker 5: You know, that's a good point, and I'm going to

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Speaker 5: keep fighting that battle as well. But the other way

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Speaker 5: to correct it is is like all the soldiers that

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Speaker 5: were fired, they are giving them, you know, the Trump

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Speaker 5: administration's position now, and I think it was done by

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Speaker 5: executive orders to let them get their jobs back. We

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Speaker 5: should do that to the doctors and nurses that were

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Speaker 5: fired as well. So think about it, the doctors and nurses.

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Speaker 5: If you were a doctor working in February March of

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Speaker 5: twenty twenty, it was a pre potent disease then, and

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Speaker 5: there were doctors who died. If you risked your life

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Speaker 5: to help people, you got COVID, you survived, and you

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Speaker 5: came back to work, and then they said, oh, you're

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Speaker 5: fired because you don't have a vaccine. And you're like, well,

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Speaker 5: wait a minute, I got the disease. Why would I

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Speaker 5: need to get vaccine and have already got the disease,

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Speaker 5: and you use common sense on them, they fired you.

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Speaker 5: Those people ought to be reinstated. There's still thousands of

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Speaker 5: doctors and nurses now in some states. We tried to

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Speaker 5: fix some of this. In Florida, they passed a law

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Speaker 5: that said you cannot take a doctor's license for speech. Now,

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Speaker 5: that would seem to be pretty obvious, but many states,

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Speaker 5: including California, were saying if if you were to say

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Speaker 5: things that I said often that children don't need to

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Speaker 5: be vaccinated for COVID, they would say, oh, you can't

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Speaker 5: say that, and they would try to take my license away.

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Speaker 5: Nobody did, but in California they did to other doctors

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Speaker 5: who were saying similar things. There's a lot of things

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Speaker 5: that need to be corrected. I think we've learned some lessons,

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00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 5: but I fear one we're still paying for research that

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Speaker 5: could turn into this nightmare again gain a function. Research

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Speaker 5: still happening in the US and outside the US funded

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Speaker 5: by tax players. I'm still working on getting that stopped.

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Speaker 5: But also we need to make sure that the essence

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Speaker 5: of medical freedom exists in our country and that people

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Speaker 5: are allowed to make choices for themselves and not be bullied.

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Speaker 2: Senator Paul always appreciate you making the time for us.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 5: Thanks guys.

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Speaker 2: Look, we were just talking about the debt. I mean,

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Speaker 2: Trump's doing everything that he can. Senator Paul just said,

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Speaker 2: doing everything he can to get this thing under control,

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Speaker 2: start turning things back in the direction of fiscal sanity.

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Speaker 2: But it's gonna take time. It's not gonna be solved overnight,

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Speaker 4: News and politics, but also a little comic relief. Clay

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Speaker 4: Travis at Buck Sexton find them on the free iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: App or wherever you get your podcasts.

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Speaker 1: Walk back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all

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Speaker 1: of you hanging out with us. We had some by

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Speaker 1: the way, a lot of you want to weigh in,

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Speaker 1: you can always weigh in on the talkback. We'll play

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Speaker 1: some of those. Will also take some of your calls

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Speaker 1: eight hundred and two A two two eight A two

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Speaker 1: with the things that we were already talking about. But Buck,

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Speaker 1: I wanted to come back because we talked about the

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Speaker 1: Governor of Texas, Greg Abbott, being insulted with the governor

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Speaker 1: hot Wheels line, and we said, hey.

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Speaker 2: I loved your idea.

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Speaker 1: Put some like flames on the wheels like I said,

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Speaker 1: wear a governor hot Wheels T shirt. I don't like

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Speaker 1: personally the idea, and I think you're in my camp

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Speaker 1: here to Buck, when people say mean things to you,

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Speaker 1: I think pretending to be offended by people saying mean

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Speaker 1: things is actually a weak look. I think I don't

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Speaker 1: think it looks good for Republicans to be like, oh,

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Speaker 1: so and so said something mean about me, and this

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Speaker 1: is like, that's what democrats do. And I don't think

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00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:41,400
Speaker 1: we should play into that game. Right The word policing

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Speaker 1: the on my feelings are hurt. I think mockery and

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Speaker 1: ridicule and humor is the way to handle things like this.

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00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 2: Yes, and sometimes even mockery can be quite helpful. Like

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Speaker 2: when one of you told me that I was starting

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Speaker 2: to look like Missus Doubtfire and wasn't handsome anymore. I

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Speaker 2: decided it was time to lose some weight.

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Speaker 1: Wow, that's a that's a tough hit, Missus Doubtfire. I mean,

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Speaker 1: oh hello, yeah wow.

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Speaker 2: Well now see, there you go.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes mockery and ridicule can can lead to good results.

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Speaker 2: And honestly, now now, thanks to that mean person, I'll

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Speaker 2: be grading parmesan on my abs before long. So there

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Speaker 2: we go. So there you go.

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Speaker 1: You insult Buck and now you've got him back in shape.

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Speaker 1: And sometimes that is the motivation, right like, sometimes people

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Speaker 1: saying mean things to you can lead to a better result.

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Speaker 1: This is uh, this is part of why you know

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Speaker 1: tough love in athletic teams sometimes leads to better Cluly does.

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Speaker 2: Not apply to people with lifelong disabilities, though, So yes,

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Speaker 2: you should not be making jokes about about Governor Greg Abbotts.

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Speaker 1: So but Greg Abbott has the opportunity to really kind

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Speaker 1: of lean in this into this in a funny way.

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Speaker 1: And you know what, Jasmine Crockett could have come out

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Speaker 1: and said, Hey, I'm gonna say It's what I would

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Speaker 1: have said. Hey, I'm gonna say sometimes jokes you may

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Speaker 1: not like. Uh, that's life. If you don't like it,

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Speaker 1: don't have to vote for me. But I my constituents

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00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:02,799
Speaker 1: are probably still going to keep voting for me, and

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Speaker 1: they understand that I'm not going to be perfect, but

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Speaker 1: my goal is to fight for them. Like, there's easy

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Speaker 1: ways to handle this. Again, I can just off the

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Speaker 1: cuff give what the answer should be. Trump certainly has

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Speaker 1: levied his fair share of insults over the years, and

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Speaker 1: so I think when Republicans like try to be offended

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Speaker 1: by things that people say, I.

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Speaker 2: Just personally think it's a poor look.

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Speaker 1: Okay, With that in mind, Jasmincrockett tried to say, she

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Speaker 1: didn't say, Hey, I'm gonna make jokes. Sometimes they're going

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Speaker 1: to land inappropriately. That's life, deal with it. We're all adults.

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Speaker 1: Kind of what I would say. She said, Oh, I

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Speaker 1: wasn't referring to the governor being in a wheelchair when

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Speaker 1: I called him governor hot wheels. But she has been

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Speaker 1: calling him governor hot wheels for some time now. People

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Speaker 1: went back, She's done it on Facebook posts, She's done

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Speaker 1: it on all sorts of different places. She tried to say, oh,

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Speaker 1: this is about the deportation policies. She's been doing this

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Speaker 1: for years. She's making fun of him. But because he's

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Speaker 1: in a wheelchair and calling him governor hot wheels, here

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Speaker 1: she is and yet another conversation.

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Speaker 2: I think this a couple of years ago.

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Speaker 4: Listen, so the governor called a special session to get

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Speaker 4: his moter suppression bills through and we have to say, yes.

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Speaker 2: Hot wheels.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sorry that is that she is mocking

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Speaker 1: him because he's in a wheelchair. Now trying to argue

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Speaker 1: and say, oh, I'm like, this is just a reference

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Speaker 1: to the fact that buses have wheels and we're putting

865
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Speaker 1: people on buses and saying, no, you've been doing this

866
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:36,200
Speaker 1: for years. You've been making fun of the governor because

867
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Speaker 1: he's in a wheelchair. And maybe this is a term

868
00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:43,759
Speaker 1: that is used in democrats circles beyond Jasmine Crockett. Maybe

869
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:47,239
Speaker 1: it's something that's talked about privately, not usually said publicly.

870
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:50,720
Speaker 1: But I do think it's important to call people out,

871
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:55,799
Speaker 1: not necessarily for what they say, although that's important, but

872
00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 1: when you blatantly lie about what you said and try

873
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:02,080
Speaker 1: to gaslight it and convince us that what you said

874
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:05,799
Speaker 1: wasn't what you actually said, it actually is worse. Like

875
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:08,440
Speaker 1: I think you said this yesterday. Doubling down and trying

876
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:10,600
Speaker 1: to make up an excuse on this, to me is

877
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:13,279
Speaker 1: worse than just being like, hey, it's a joke name

878
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:16,279
Speaker 1: I have for him. I don't like his policies, and

879
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:18,719
Speaker 1: you cannot like it. I mean, I can easily come

880
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:21,640
Speaker 1: up with a reason why she could, why she could

881
00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:23,160
Speaker 1: explain this.

882
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:25,960
Speaker 2: This goes along with a much broader trend in the

883
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 2: Democrat Party, which is it's one thing when they lie

884
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 2: to us. It's another thing when they lie to people

885
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:36,719
Speaker 2: that they're trying to fool, but when they lie to

886
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:38,600
Speaker 2: their own side, like to their base.

887
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:38,880
Speaker 5: Right.

888
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:41,400
Speaker 2: So there's line to Republicans, that's of course what they

889
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:44,960
Speaker 2: do every day. There's lying to swing voters that's called

890
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:49,000
Speaker 2: every election cycle for Democrats for all of my lifetime.

891
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 2: And then there's lying to like the MSNBC watchers, right,

892
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:57,359
Speaker 2: Biden doesn't have dementia, for example, Yes, they made them

893
00:47:57,400 --> 00:48:00,719
Speaker 2: look foolish. They made their own people look like they're

894
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 2: easy to mislead and and that their buffoons basically that

895
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:09,280
Speaker 2: they will not forgive so easily when you say something

896
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:12,840
Speaker 2: like this and it's so easily provable that you are lying,

897
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 2: it's it insults the intelligence of your own audience. It's

898
00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:19,880
Speaker 2: basically what I'm what I'm getting at. It insults the

899
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:22,799
Speaker 2: intelligence of the people that you're supposed to be on

900
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:26,040
Speaker 2: the team with. And so that's why this is not

901
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:29,719
Speaker 2: This is not a win for Congresswoman Crockett other than

902
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:32,040
Speaker 2: her name is getting out there a whole lot, and

903
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:35,600
Speaker 2: her name unfortunately conflicts with America's greatest coffee company, which

904
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:39,319
Speaker 2: you're gonna have to keep on trying to just deal with,

905
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:39,960
Speaker 2: you know what I mean.

906
00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:43,080
Speaker 1: Unfortunate that the Crockett in Texas would end up being

907
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 1: a crazy woman as opposed to a badass sort of legacy.

908
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:50,279
Speaker 2: Uh imagine if she was really like I imagine, if

909
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:53,120
Speaker 2: she was like a great you know, patriot, a conservative,

910
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:55,920
Speaker 2: a constitutionalist, and was like a rising star in the

911
00:48:55,960 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 2: Republican Party, We'd be sending your Crockett sweatshirts. It'd be fantastic,

912
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:07,680
Speaker 2: totally true Unfortunately, that's not where we are. I do hope.

913
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Speaker 1: Let me just implore upon this, because I know there

914
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:14,600
Speaker 1: are a lot of congressman senators. They're staffed White House

915
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:19,680
Speaker 1: people who listen. Please don't fall into the trap of

916
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:23,080
Speaker 1: trying to be offended by things that people say. And

917
00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:25,600
Speaker 1: I would encourage all of you out there listening to

918
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:30,680
Speaker 1: us too, please do not fall into this circular firing squad.

919
00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:32,719
Speaker 1: I think we're and I think you would agree with

920
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:35,440
Speaker 1: me on this, Buck, I think we're moving out of

921
00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:38,960
Speaker 1: the era of somebody sent a tweet or a Facebook

922
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:42,120
Speaker 1: post or an Instagram post or whatever it is, and

923
00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:46,480
Speaker 1: they can never be employed ever again, because, oh my goodness,

924
00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:49,680
Speaker 1: can you believe what that one post said? Whether you

925
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:53,879
Speaker 1: work at Low's department stores, or whether you work at McDonald's,

926
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:57,000
Speaker 1: or whether you work in a congressional office, or you're

927
00:49:57,040 --> 00:50:01,000
Speaker 1: doing something like what Buck and I do, the idea of, hey,

928
00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:04,480
Speaker 1: somebody screwed something up and therefore they should never be

929
00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:07,560
Speaker 1: able to be employed again because they have an opinion

930
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:11,320
Speaker 1: that's considered to be unacceptable. I just I fundamentally reject

931
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:14,680
Speaker 1: that on all levels. So I don't want in this

932
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:19,839
Speaker 1: era for Republicans to start to adopt the Democrat policies

933
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:26,399
Speaker 1: of oh, somebody said something mean, mock ridicule, satirize, use

934
00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:29,759
Speaker 1: humor to point out how absurd they are and what

935
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:32,840
Speaker 1: they said. But please do not try and play the

936
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:36,840
Speaker 1: victim card. I'm so sick of the victim card, and

937
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:39,480
Speaker 1: I'm afraid because I see it a little bit. I

938
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:41,320
Speaker 1: see it a little bit now kind of starting to

939
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:45,920
Speaker 1: pop up as Republicans have more cultural ascendancy, where you're saying, oh,

940
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:48,759
Speaker 1: somebody said something mean about me, and they should not

941
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Speaker 1: be able to have a job anymore. I don't want

942
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Speaker 1: us to go down that path. Does that make sense, Like,

943
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:56,760
Speaker 1: I'm afraid when you have a little bit more cultural powers,

944
00:50:56,800 --> 00:50:59,439
Speaker 1: don't start trying to play it. I've seen it start

945
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:03,520
Speaker 1: to happen just occasionally on social media with somebody says

946
00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:07,319
Speaker 1: something and it's like anyway, it's it's it's easy to

947
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:12,040
Speaker 1: get that sugar high of hey, somebody said something mean

948
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:15,719
Speaker 1: about me, and like I'm a victim. Resist it, attack it,

949
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:19,560
Speaker 1: have fun with it, attack the idea, but don't I

950
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:23,960
Speaker 1: don't want cancel culture to emerge on the Republican side

951
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:24,480
Speaker 1: of the equation.

952
00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:28,239
Speaker 2: If that makes sense, Yeah, Yeah, well I don't think

953
00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:30,880
Speaker 2: it will because I think that cancel culture is inherently

954
00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:35,120
Speaker 2: a you know, for for guys, it's very very beta

955
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:38,399
Speaker 2: male activity. It's very uh, it's very as I said before,

956
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:41,120
Speaker 2: very low tee very what are you doing with yourself here?

957
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:43,040
Speaker 2: You know it, don't be don't be such a little girl.

958
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:46,359
Speaker 2: So yeah, I think that there's less likelihood that our

959
00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:48,200
Speaker 2: our team is going to start going down the cancel

960
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:52,520
Speaker 2: culture path. And it's been a it's been a wild ride.

961
00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:55,279
Speaker 2: I will say that because in media there has been

962
00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:57,879
Speaker 2: there was a period of time where they were going

963
00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:00,719
Speaker 2: after people like me, oh like Clay in a big

964
00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:02,120
Speaker 2: what rush went through.

965
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:05,279
Speaker 1: I mean, they they basically tried to pull every advertiser

966
00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:07,440
Speaker 1: off this show, you know, six seven years ago, as

967
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:10,640
Speaker 1: many of you listening know. But there were they were

968
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:14,760
Speaker 1: they were smart in the way that they went after advertisers,

969
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:17,120
Speaker 1: and they found out that a lot of advertisers are

970
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:21,000
Speaker 1: very cowardly. And if they even have this astro turf

971
00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:22,040
Speaker 1: fake campaign.

972
00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:24,120
Speaker 2: It was over a decade ago, is what you're talking about,

973
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:25,160
Speaker 2: just seeing it was a long Yeah, it was a

974
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:28,640
Speaker 2: long time ago, but but it is emblematic that's really

975
00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:30,680
Speaker 2: kind of when they started to hit their stride, and

976
00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:32,840
Speaker 2: it picked up for years and years and years, and

977
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:37,000
Speaker 2: they really managed to do a good job of trying

978
00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:39,759
Speaker 2: to terrify advertisers and make them think that these kind

979
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:42,800
Speaker 2: of responses were real. Look, there there were a number

980
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:47,200
Speaker 2: of people on our side of the political isle who

981
00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:51,120
Speaker 2: were big, big names, big voices, and they did not

982
00:52:51,239 --> 00:52:54,239
Speaker 2: bend the knee, and we should always rush obviously. It

983
00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:56,239
Speaker 2: was you know, they wanted to take Rush down for

984
00:52:56,480 --> 00:52:58,800
Speaker 2: so many years, and the fact that he just kept

985
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:02,560
Speaker 2: on showing up and being the voice and the leader

986
00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:04,720
Speaker 2: that he was in this country and that they couldn't

987
00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:09,520
Speaker 2: stop him was so important, right he was. He was

988
00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:13,360
Speaker 2: like the bulldozer running through all the barbed wire of

989
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:15,839
Speaker 2: the communists. I mean, he just would not and they

990
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:18,000
Speaker 2: tried everything they could. But there were there were others

991
00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:20,080
Speaker 2: also they tried to cancel. I remember they went after

992
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:24,200
Speaker 2: Remember they went after Tucker early on when he was

993
00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:25,840
Speaker 2: at Fox and No. But early on when he was

994
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:27,480
Speaker 2: at Fox and A big he had gone on some

995
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:30,880
Speaker 2: different radio shows. I never found the.

996
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:33,040
Speaker 1: Jokes that he had made years ago, and they were.

997
00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:34,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was on kind of a kind of a

998
00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:38,200
Speaker 2: body radio show. If I may say so, it's a

999
00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:41,359
Speaker 2: bit body and you know, a little a little bit

1000
00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:45,040
Speaker 2: on the salty side. And he went on and instead

1001
00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:47,799
Speaker 2: of you know, going on his show on Fox, and

1002
00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:49,960
Speaker 2: this was early and they were so they were hoping

1003
00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:53,560
Speaker 2: to just tear him down so quickly he was like, yeah,

1004
00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:55,640
Speaker 2: I see some people found that I said some naughty

1005
00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:57,839
Speaker 2: words a long time ago. Good luck with that.

1006
00:53:57,880 --> 00:53:58,080
Speaker 5: You know.

1007
00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:01,480
Speaker 2: Just totally was like, not, how happening. And because he

1008
00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:03,800
Speaker 2: took that position, I actually remember I was texting with

1009
00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:05,640
Speaker 2: him when he did that, and I was like, I

1010
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:07,600
Speaker 2: know that that's who you are, and so you didn't

1011
00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:10,000
Speaker 2: do it for this reason, but you actually just did

1012
00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:13,000
Speaker 2: all the rest of us a favor because by you

1013
00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:15,480
Speaker 2: refusing to bend the knee, it means that the rest

1014
00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:17,719
Speaker 2: of us coming up in the ranks behind you can

1015
00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:18,840
Speaker 2: also do the same.

1016
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:22,680
Speaker 1: I one hundred percent agree with that, And I would

1017
00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:24,600
Speaker 1: just point out that I think it actually ties in

1018
00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:28,000
Speaker 1: a bit with the signal controversy that came out this week.

1019
00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:31,759
Speaker 1: I think Trump has decided I am not going to

1020
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:35,440
Speaker 1: give an inch to any of my critics and ever

1021
00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:41,000
Speaker 1: fire anybody by and large because they're coming completely without

1022
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:44,160
Speaker 1: good faith. And they believe that if they can get

1023
00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:46,640
Speaker 1: one scalp that they It's not like they're ever going

1024
00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:49,600
Speaker 1: to be satisfied. Right, Let's say that Trump suddenly said, hey,

1025
00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:53,279
Speaker 1: this is unacceptable, I'm firing X. It's not like they're

1026
00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:55,759
Speaker 1: going to say, well, we'll go easy on Trump when

1027
00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:59,359
Speaker 1: why happens because he did X. Right, they don't have

1028
00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:02,759
Speaker 1: a good obligation. They're not trying to solve things here.

1029
00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:05,920
Speaker 1: So I've been doing this now. This is pretty astonishing

1030
00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:07,040
Speaker 1: when I say this out loud.

1031
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:10,319
Speaker 2: I've been doing this now for fifty This will be

1032
00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:13,440
Speaker 2: fifteen years, which is which is great, especially for those

1033
00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:15,080
Speaker 2: of you who think I look like I'm still in college.

1034
00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:19,000
Speaker 2: I've been doing this for fifteen years. And at the beginning, Clay,

1035
00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:22,080
Speaker 2: I remember there was the there was the in this

1036
00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:26,399
Speaker 2: cancel culture world. It was the apology tour thing, yeah right,

1037
00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:28,239
Speaker 2: which I actually think in some ways is the worst.

1038
00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:30,600
Speaker 2: We have to go like I am so sorry that

1039
00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:33,080
Speaker 2: I used the word or that I said the thing,

1040
00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:35,719
Speaker 2: and you go on like these kind of small sea

1041
00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:38,800
Speaker 2: daytime talk shows. They're just like, oh, are you really

1042
00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:42,400
Speaker 2: like a changed person? Learned? For an actress, I've learned

1043
00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:47,040
Speaker 2: like and then you make the you make the requisite.

1044
00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:49,560
Speaker 2: You know, I've become a better person. And also I'm

1045
00:55:49,560 --> 00:55:52,400
Speaker 2: making a donation to some foundation that you know is

1046
00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:55,440
Speaker 2: is all about whatever the issue, whoever you offended, you

1047
00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:59,600
Speaker 2: made the donation. But then it changed, and it really changed.

1048
00:55:59,719 --> 00:56:03,879
Speaker 2: I say me, like by the end of Obama term

1049
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:07,040
Speaker 2: one in my mind at least, and it started to

1050
00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:10,040
Speaker 2: turn into you have to apologize. You just said that.

1051
00:56:10,080 --> 00:56:12,480
Speaker 2: And then it was well, now we're going to take

1052
00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:15,960
Speaker 2: your career like now you have even when you apologize,

1053
00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:18,600
Speaker 2: we take your head. You're fired, you're done, you know.

1054
00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:21,160
Speaker 2: And now we've finally broken out of that where it's no,

1055
00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:23,120
Speaker 2: don't bend the knee. If you bend the knee, they

1056
00:56:23,120 --> 00:56:25,120
Speaker 2: take your head. So it's been a it's been a

1057
00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:27,960
Speaker 2: wild ride, like I said, but I think.

1058
00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:30,920
Speaker 1: We're starting to win, and we're starting to win every

1059
00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:33,920
Speaker 1: day in big ways. And we want you to get

1060
00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:35,759
Speaker 1: a little smarter. In the meantime, I want to get

1061
00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:37,600
Speaker 1: a little smarter, trying to read as much as I can,

1062
00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:39,879
Speaker 1: try to be as formed as I possibly can, try

1063
00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:42,640
Speaker 1: to learn as often as I can. And that's what

1064
00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:45,680
Speaker 1: Hillsdale College is trying to do. From the Civil War.

1065
00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:48,359
Speaker 1: You guys know that I am a Civil War history nerd.

1066
00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:51,760
Speaker 1: How about how did the American free market economy get started?

1067
00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:54,600
Speaker 1: What happened in World War One? World War Two? What

1068
00:56:54,680 --> 00:56:58,000
Speaker 1: about the constitution itself? What is the foundational elements of

1069
00:56:58,040 --> 00:57:01,120
Speaker 1: the constitution you should know about? From his historical perspective.

1070
00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:04,880
Speaker 1: Professors at Hillsdale College will read the lead These online

1071
00:57:04,920 --> 00:57:09,040
Speaker 1: courses with television production value that will teach you an

1072
00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:11,640
Speaker 1: awful lot. But maybe your grandkids might like this, but

1073
00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:17,160
Speaker 1: certainly you and your free time. No schedule, no having

1074
00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:20,760
Speaker 1: to wake up for a particular class, no grades, just

1075
00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:24,280
Speaker 1: learning for learning's sake. There are nearly forty of these.

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