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The way tire buying should be 20 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 2: Play of the Day, poll question stat of the Day, 21 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:10,399 Speaker 2: all of that forthcoming. The New York Knicks are still 22 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 2: looking for their head coach, as they have whiffed on 23 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:18,480 Speaker 2: the Rockets head coach m a Udoka and Chad Finch 24 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 2: the Timberwolves head coach, and perhaps Jason Kidd the MAVs 25 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 2: head coach. Brian Windhorst a couple of days ago said 26 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 2: that there was mutual interest on the Knick side and 27 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 2: Jason Kidd's side, but I don't think from what I'm reading, 28 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 2: the MAVs are going to give him permission to talk 29 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 2: to the Knicks, which does lead to kind of an 30 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 2: awkward situation if you know, Jason Kidd is interested in 31 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 2: the Knicks, but you don't want to let him go 32 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 2: to the Knicks, but then he's still going to be 33 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 2: your head coach. And I'm still surprised that Jason Kidd 34 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 2: would be interested in going to the Knicks when you 35 00:01:57,160 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 2: can have a great, you know, perhaps a franchise player 36 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 2: in Cooper Flag coming to your team and what that 37 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 2: could mean for the future here instead of going to 38 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:10,639 Speaker 2: the Knicks, unless you go to the Knicks and you're 39 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:13,519 Speaker 2: going to get the Greek freak, if that was going 40 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 2: to happen, then I understand why you would be interested 41 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 2: in that. It's not like he has some great history 42 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 2: or relationship with the Knicks. He played there for a 43 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 2: little while, that's it. But I was surprised that according 44 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 2: to Brian Winhorst, there was mutual interest. But the latest 45 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 2: report is that the Dallas Mavericks are probably going to 46 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:35,360 Speaker 2: deny the Knicks the opportunity to talk to him, which 47 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 2: goes back to what I said when you fired Tom Thibodeau, 48 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:41,920 Speaker 2: you don't fire him unless you got somebody that you 49 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 2: know is going to be an upgrade here, and I 50 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 2: don't know if you're going to find that a guy 51 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 2: who gave you a winning culture. Yes, are there flaws 52 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 2: that go along with this coaching style. Yes, there's flaws 53 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:57,239 Speaker 2: that go along with most coaches with their coaching style. 54 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:01,079 Speaker 2: How long can this style last before you start to 55 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 2: wear out? You're welcome, you know, Laker players talked about 56 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:06,800 Speaker 2: pat Riley like they knew that there was a window 57 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 2: and then after that they were going to get tired 58 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 2: of pat Riley. They were going to tune him out. 59 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:14,959 Speaker 2: And you'll see this with coaches. It's hard to last 60 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 2: for ten years in one place. Now, granted, the players 61 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 2: are interchangeable, so your message can still be the same. 62 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:24,240 Speaker 2: But this is why you have a lot of college 63 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 2: coaches that they loved being at the same place for fifteen, 64 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 2: twenty twenty five years because the players all changed and 65 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 2: you were still the focal point of the organization. But 66 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 2: the Knicks still looking for their head coach, and looks 67 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 2: like the Dallas Mavericks are going to say no to that. 68 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 2: Here's another thing that you know, when you've kind of 69 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 2: graduated to a certain level, maybe stardom, when we start 70 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 2: to critique you. Tyrese Haliburton is getting critiqued now, whereas 71 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 2: during the regular season, nobody probably said a word about 72 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 2: his game outside of Indianapolis. So he's in the finals 73 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 2: and now everybody has an opinion. Now all of a sudden, 74 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 2: He's gotten to the point where we go, okay, let's 75 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 2: see what you can do. Game three didn't look good. 76 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 2: In games one and two. Hit a big shot in one, 77 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 2: but two, all right, got to be more aggressive. Here. 78 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:22,039 Speaker 2: There's players that you all of a sudden have expectations for, 79 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 2: and Tyree's Halliburton has gotten to that point. There are 80 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 2: expectations for him in the NBA Finals. I don't know 81 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:33,159 Speaker 2: if anybody has had a run quite like him in 82 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 2: the last twenty five thirty years when it comes to 83 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 2: postseason basketball and elevating your status. Now, all of a sudden, 84 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 2: we're going as Tyre's Halliburton a top ten player. Nobody 85 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 2: would have said that if you talked about the Pacers 86 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:52,920 Speaker 2: in December or January, be like Tyree's Halliburton. What position 87 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 2: does he play? Can he shoot? Where's he from? Now, 88 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 2: all of a sudden, you've go graduated. Now it's like, well, 89 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 2: the guy at Iowa stated, all the guy used to 90 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:05,279 Speaker 2: play for Sacramento. All the guy who's hitting all the 91 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:09,040 Speaker 2: big shots. Now, all of a sudden we treat him differently. 92 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 2: You got to be a star, but you didn't even 93 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 2: make the All Star team. Now the two previous years 94 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:18,600 Speaker 2: he did, but he didn't make it this year. And 95 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:22,039 Speaker 2: he's kind of been that all right, He's interesting. 96 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 3: Now. 97 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 2: He's not a guy that I go, I'm going to 98 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 2: plug him in for twenty five tonight. But he might 99 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:31,360 Speaker 2: give me seventeen and twelve and hit the game winning shot. 100 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 2: But here's the thunder and they're coming and they're favored 101 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 2: by five in Indiana. What tells you a whole lot 102 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:41,839 Speaker 2: about what the odds makers think about this series. OKC 103 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:45,839 Speaker 2: is coming to town and they plan on leaving with 104 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 2: a few victories here. They plan on leaving with the championship. 105 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 2: Yeah there, it's like, all right, you got one win. Now, 106 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 2: we got to take care of business here, all right, 107 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 2: Seaton poll question. The commissioner will join us in about 108 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:01,599 Speaker 2: fifteen minutes from now. What do we have first? 109 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:04,920 Speaker 4: Don here's one from Marvin the front office that has 110 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 4: the worst reputation in the NFL. WHOA Browns, Jets, Bengals, 111 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 4: Bears other Okay, okay, any thoughts on any of those teams. Wow, 112 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:21,719 Speaker 4: Bengals certainly seemed to be getting put through the ringer 113 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 4: right now with some of their contract negotiations. The Browns 114 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 4: have fifteen quarterbacks on the roster. 115 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 2: Okay. 116 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 4: The Jets are a disaster. Bears traditionally are terrible. However, 117 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:37,239 Speaker 4: there is some optimism there. Yes, they're trending forward. 118 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 2: Yes, got a head coach that is respected, should work 119 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 2: in unison with Caleb. They got some toys there for 120 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:47,039 Speaker 2: him to play with, and I would say that there 121 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 2: is a positive outlook. The Bengals are being the Bengals 122 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:57,360 Speaker 2: they're cheap, will play some sound from their first round 123 00:06:57,440 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 2: draft pick who is not happy with what the Bengals 124 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 2: are doing. You can spend all that money on offense, 125 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:07,279 Speaker 2: and Joe Burrow wanted his receivers paid. You're not going 126 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 2: to the playoffs if you're not playing any defense, You're 127 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 2: just you're not. And that's the surprising part of it. 128 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 2: Although the expectation level for the Bengals this year is 129 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 2: around ten wins, which is surprising. The Cleveland Browns are 130 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 2: a mess. I would say the Jets minette starts with 131 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 2: ownership that's been a mess. And you can change coaches, 132 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 2: you can change players gms, you still have the same ownership. 133 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 2: And that's where it starts because when you say, oh 134 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 2: that team that's a mess, Okay, bring in another head 135 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 2: coach or another starting quarterback or whatever it might be, 136 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 2: you still have ownership there, and ownership that stays out 137 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 2: of the day to day that's when you can have success. 138 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 2: It's when they meddle and they think they're the smartest people. 139 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 2: That's where it's really dangerous. Where all of a sudden, 140 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 2: the owner of the Cleveland Browns, Jimmy Haslim, goes, you 141 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 2: know what, we're gonna do We're gonna do this, and 142 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 2: be like, no, we don't want to draft Johnny Manziel. 143 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 2: We're drafting him. Okay, you get that impulsive owner who 144 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 2: wants to all of a sudden go yeah, I own 145 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 2: the team. Watch this, I'm gonna make this move. I'm 146 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 2: going to sign this player. The Bengals are cheap. They 147 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 2: do have, you know, a great quarterback. They got really 148 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 2: good wide receivers. They paid them. But they're on the 149 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:37,080 Speaker 2: cheap with Tray Hendrickson, who, by the way, is the 150 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 2: sac leader the last two years, so I would think 151 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:42,200 Speaker 2: that you would want to sign him up. They just 152 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 2: don't want him to get that money that Miles Garrett 153 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:49,080 Speaker 2: and Michael Parsons, TJ. Watts going to get and he 154 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:51,839 Speaker 2: shouldn't get that money. But should he be in there 155 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 2: with Max Crosby? Well probably so who is the other one? 156 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 2: So you got the Jets, you got the Browns. Take 157 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:01,200 Speaker 2: the Bears out of it. 158 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 5: Let's not forget the Bear's history. 159 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 6: They have had one really good offseason where they spent 160 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 6: on Ben Johnson, but historically they've never done stuff like this. 161 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:12,960 Speaker 5: It's almost like a pause, like, hey, good for. 162 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 2: Them, but that starts with ownership too. Yeah, just look 163 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 2: at ownership. That'll tell you everything about a franchise. How 164 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 2: solid is that ownership? Stable, not involved, not in front 165 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 2: of the camera constantly. 166 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 6: Yeah, Pauling, I hate to do this because you know 167 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 6: I'm anti Cowboys. For clicks, I would absolutely put the 168 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 6: Cowboys on this poll question because, as you described, an 169 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:39,960 Speaker 6: owner who thinks he knows more about football than football 170 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:42,560 Speaker 6: experts is what the Cowboys have been doing for thirty 171 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:44,560 Speaker 6: five years and it's not working out. 172 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 2: Jerry Jones knows how to make money, sure, he doesn't 173 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 2: necessarily know how to run a football team successfully. And 174 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 2: if you don't have a GM and all of a 175 00:09:55,320 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 2: sudden you're the GM and the owner. The owner would 176 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:05,079 Speaker 2: have fired a GM who did the moves that Jerry made, 177 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:08,440 Speaker 2: because that if Jerry ever came on the show, you know, 178 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 2: I would ask him, would you have fired you as 179 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:17,080 Speaker 2: the GM? Because if you look at not making the playoffs, 180 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 2: or you make the playoffs, or you haven't been to 181 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 2: a conference final, the last time you won a Super Bowl, 182 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:24,199 Speaker 2: you know all of those things. So I would say 183 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 2: Jerry is great at making money. Yeah, I do not 184 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:29,599 Speaker 2: like the Cowboys. 185 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:33,320 Speaker 4: I actively root against them, and I take great pleasure 186 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 4: in watching them not win. There's a butt coming up. 187 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:41,960 Speaker 4: But to compare them to the Browns is too far, fair, 188 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:45,320 Speaker 4: too far. That is, I love watching the Cowboys lose 189 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 4: almost as much as I like watching the teams. 190 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:47,679 Speaker 2: I like win. 191 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 4: Every Cowboys loss feels like a win to me. But 192 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 4: to say that they should belong on this list with 193 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:56,319 Speaker 4: the Browns and the Jets and even the Bears, frankly 194 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 4: is that's not right. 195 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 2: But who has had more expectations attached to them? 196 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:06,200 Speaker 4: But if you have expectations, that means you're doing something right. No, 197 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 4: that just then you're just being disappointing. 198 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:12,359 Speaker 2: That just means that the networks focus on the Cowboys 199 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:16,439 Speaker 2: because of the fan base there. It's not because it's warranted. 200 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:20,319 Speaker 2: Nobody's received more attention probably in the history of the 201 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 2: NFL for the lack of success than the Cowboys have. 202 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 2: But they have an incredible fan base and a fan 203 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 2: base that still believes every single year this might be 204 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:35,199 Speaker 2: the year. I just think Jerry is great at he's 205 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:38,720 Speaker 2: great at branding, he's great at, you know, continuing to 206 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:43,720 Speaker 2: have them constantly being discussed. He likes the any good news, 207 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 2: is any any news is good news? Like he probably 208 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 2: subscribes to that. Now. Have they had far more success 209 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:55,439 Speaker 2: than the Cleveland Browns. Absolutely, But we're looking at dysfunction 210 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:59,840 Speaker 2: on different levels there, Like the Jets. I mean, it's 211 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:02,320 Speaker 2: gotten to the point where you just go, I feel 212 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 2: sorry for them, and the Cleveland Browns with Jimmy Haslam, 213 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:11,599 Speaker 2: the Bears another cheap organization, the Bengals a cheap organization. 214 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 2: These are things that are systemic and the Bengals shouldn't 215 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 2: be thinking about, you know, are we gonna get my 216 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 2: my first round draft pick? 217 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 3: Here? 218 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 2: Are we going to get the guy who's the sack leader? Now? 219 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 2: It should be exciting. Now, this should be the time 220 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:31,560 Speaker 2: where you go, We're looking pretty good here, Yeah, Pauling. 221 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:33,959 Speaker 6: I would say though, that the Browns have made some 222 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 6: horrible picks and moves personnel wise over the past fifteen years, 223 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 6: and they're way too risky Manziel. 224 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 3: You could see it. 225 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 6: It was way too risky. Deshaun Watson had so much 226 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 6: baggage off the field. There was nothing you're bidding against 227 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 6: to get him. There was way too much downside with 228 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:53,560 Speaker 6: DeShawn and with a franchise like that, that has a 229 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:56,839 Speaker 6: super loyal fan base, makes safe decisions. 230 00:12:56,520 --> 00:12:59,840 Speaker 2: But they had to make an unsafe decision because of 231 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 2: the organization. They had to give to Shaun Watson a 232 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 2: deal he couldn't refuse. He didn't want to go. 233 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 6: It's like you said, they made their own bed. You're 234 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 6: a bad franchise, so they'd overpay him. 235 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 2: Yes, that's how they got to the point to make 236 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:16,960 Speaker 2: a risky decision is because they've made other bad decisions. 237 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:21,440 Speaker 2: You know, DraftKings has the team that will have the 238 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 2: fewest wins. It's the Browns. Then it's the Saints, Giants, 239 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 2: the Jets, the Titans, Raiders, and Panthers are tied after that. 240 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:35,440 Speaker 2: But it's the Browns and Saints right now in the 241 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 2: clubhouse for the fewest wins. And I do think that 242 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:42,199 Speaker 2: will lead to something very If I'm a Saints organization, 243 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 2: at what point is their organizational tanking here? Maybe you 244 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 2: don't put the best people on the field because if 245 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 2: you happen to end up with the number one pick 246 00:13:54,640 --> 00:14:00,160 Speaker 2: in the draft, now you make you make it a 247 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:02,600 Speaker 2: little bit tougher for arch Manning to go. I'll go 248 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 2: back to Texas instead of going to my hometown team 249 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 2: with the Saints. I can quarterback the team that Archie Manning, 250 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 2: who I'm named after, quarterback. But I wonder about that 251 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:18,560 Speaker 2: with the Saints. Do you get to the point where 252 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 2: you go and they've got some talent, but they're talking 253 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 2: about trading some players, maybe getting to that point where 254 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 2: oh woe is me? I don't think anybody's going to 255 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 2: be sad. They can wear the eights paper bags if 256 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 2: they know they're getting arch man Like all go through 257 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 2: another bad season where we win three games. I think 258 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 2: the over under for the Browns is four and a half. 259 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 2: I think the Steelers right now is eight and a half. 260 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 2: We'll hear from Aaron Rodgers coming up as well, but 261 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 2: we'll settle on a poll question. 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Tom Thibodeau took out a full page 293 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 2: ad in the New York Times, and he was thanking 294 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 2: the New York Knicks. He starts it out by saying, 295 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 2: to the best city in the world, with the best 296 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 2: fans in the world, thank you. When I was hired 297 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty, I said this was my dream job. 298 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 2: Ungrateful that that dream became a reality. Thank you to 299 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 2: our players, coaching staff who gave everything they had, and 300 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 2: to everyone who makes this franchise special. I'm proud of 301 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 2: everything we accomplished together, including four playoff appearances and this 302 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 2: year's run to the Eastern Conference Finals, our first in 303 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 2: twenty five years. And the fans. Thank you for believing 304 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 2: in me and embracing me from day one, watching your 305 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 2: support and you supporting our team and seeing the gardens 306 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 2: the garden night with that incomparable Nick's energy is something 307 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:08,920 Speaker 2: I will never forget with gratitude and respect. Tom Thibodeau, Yes, Tod, 308 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:11,160 Speaker 2: what is the goal or goals here? 309 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 3: For Tom Thibodeau putting that out there in your. 310 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:16,199 Speaker 2: Opinion, I think it's just a nice period at the 311 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 2: end of a paragraph that you had a good time there, 312 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 2: rewarding time there, memorable time there, got the opportunity you 313 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 2: took him to the Eastern Conference Finals. You walk out 314 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:31,440 Speaker 2: with well a lot of money, but your head held 315 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:33,920 Speaker 2: high that you did a great job for a team 316 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:39,880 Speaker 2: that was desperate for a winning attitude. There, Yeah, Paul, 317 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:40,359 Speaker 2: would it. 318 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:42,159 Speaker 5: Be great at the end if you put ps the 319 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:43,200 Speaker 5: Knicks paid for this ad? 320 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:46,360 Speaker 2: I do what to ask though, Well, they did pay 321 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:48,680 Speaker 2: for the ad because they're spending thirty million dollars. 322 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 5: Yes, he's done it twenty nine to nine. 323 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:53,399 Speaker 6: Now after the ad, Is there any chance he posted 324 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:57,640 Speaker 6: this to combat his image that's being portrayed as a 325 00:17:57,720 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 6: overly tough guy. It seems like his image is being 326 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:02,720 Speaker 6: a little sullied on the way out. 327 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 2: Well, this doesn't change my opinion of the way he 328 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 2: rotated his players. 329 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:10,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, more so, like he's not a player's coach. 330 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:14,120 Speaker 6: He's a bit too abrasive and play. 331 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:21,160 Speaker 2: I think he's a tough guy, demanding guy. So I'm 332 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:25,879 Speaker 2: you know, maybe I don't know what you know if 333 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:28,600 Speaker 2: there was an ulterior motive here. By the way, Sham 334 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:32,080 Speaker 2: says the Knicks have not requested permission for the Mavericks 335 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:35,480 Speaker 2: coach Jason Kidd as of Tuesday night, but sources tell 336 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:39,920 Speaker 2: ESPN the Mavericks would reject them to bringing the commissioner 337 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:42,879 Speaker 2: of the NBA, Adam Silver back on the program or 338 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 2: is he ready to do a couple? Okay, so the 339 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 2: Knicks have not requested permission for Jason Kidd, but you know, 340 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:55,960 Speaker 2: Brian Winhor said there's mutual interest or there was mutual interest, 341 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:58,639 Speaker 2: So I don't know how that works between the Knicks 342 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 2: are interested in Jason Kidd. He might be interested in them, 343 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 2: but the Mavericks aren't interested in letting him be more 344 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 2: interested in the New York Knicks, if that makes sense here? 345 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:11,240 Speaker 2: All right, what a pole question we're going to settle 346 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 2: on is what they're seedon? 347 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, I do think just back to that topic quickly. 348 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:19,400 Speaker 4: That Tom Thibodeau sort of taking the high road publicly, 349 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:23,439 Speaker 4: isn't isn't a bad look and sort of like a 350 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 4: and just a reminder they asked me to leave. I 351 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 4: didn't want to. Good luck, see you around Eastern Conference finals. 352 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:31,360 Speaker 4: Sure was fun, see you guys later. 353 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 3: You know. 354 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 2: And it's almost as if they overachieved because the Celtics 355 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:42,920 Speaker 2: injuries with Tatum, the Cavaliers' injuries, and you know, you 356 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:46,359 Speaker 2: got further and further, and then it probably became tougher 357 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:49,639 Speaker 2: and tougher for you to go. How do we validate 358 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 2: firing this guy. I think they probably had this decision 359 00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:57,160 Speaker 2: made before the playoffs started, and they probably played too well. 360 00:19:57,600 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 2: But Tom Thibodeau with a New York Times farewell, let's 361 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:05,439 Speaker 2: bring in the commissioner, Adam Silver, joining us on the program. 362 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 2: Do you have business cards? 363 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:08,399 Speaker 6: Me? 364 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:10,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, hold on, wait. 365 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:16,760 Speaker 2: What should say? 366 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:21,640 Speaker 8: It says National Basketball Association Adam Silver, commissioner the whole 367 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:23,200 Speaker 8: phone numbers and an address. 368 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:25,880 Speaker 2: Okay, how often do you hand those outs? 369 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 3: You know? 370 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 8: It's so funny When I give them to younger people, 371 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 8: they go like this. But our generation still likes business cards, 372 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 8: so I still carry them or I got a I 373 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:40,040 Speaker 8: had about a thousand printed, I think when I became commissioner, 374 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:40,959 Speaker 8: so I'm going to use them up. 375 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:44,199 Speaker 2: You should just hand them out, autograph them. You know, 376 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 2: collectors items are impressed. 377 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 3: You gotta be impressed. I had them in my pocket. 378 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 2: That's impressed. Rehearsed this, I know that's impressive. You were 379 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 2: at the University of Chicago, what late eighties? 380 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 3: Yes? 381 00:20:55,920 --> 00:21:00,160 Speaker 2: Okay, do you remember your first Jordan Bulls game when 382 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 2: you were in school? 383 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:05,119 Speaker 8: I do, because so I got to I went to 384 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 8: law school at University of Chicago. I got there in 385 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 8: nineteen eighty five, and at that time, we could just 386 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:13,200 Speaker 8: go down to the I mean you just bought tickets 387 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:17,200 Speaker 8: at you know, literally at the ticket window at game time. 388 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:19,879 Speaker 8: I mean, you know, I had gone to Duke, so 389 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:22,879 Speaker 8: I knew Michael from North Carolina. I mean not it 390 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 8: wasn't secret, but they weren't selling out all the games 391 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:28,639 Speaker 8: back then. I mean it was you know, people forget 392 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:31,440 Speaker 8: it. It was several years before he won his first championship. 393 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 8: I mean, he was great, but it wasn't the Michael 394 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 8: Jordan that he turned into. 395 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:37,840 Speaker 2: When do you remember when it was more than just 396 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:39,120 Speaker 2: a basketball game? 397 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:43,240 Speaker 8: Not WHI I was, well, I remember there was an 398 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 8: All Star game in Chicago, so it would have been 399 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 8: I don't know, it was like eighty seven or something. 400 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 3: I remember that. What was the year when he went 401 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:54,280 Speaker 3: to stay eighty eighty? Yeah, okay, So that. 402 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 8: You know, I think that transformed I think him into 403 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 8: this global icon in a way. I just think that 404 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:04,400 Speaker 8: that iconic shot I can picture of him flying through 405 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:06,639 Speaker 8: the air. I remember, you know, I did not have 406 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 8: great seats, but I remember I was in the arena 407 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 8: when he did that, and I just remember that that 408 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 8: was transformational. 409 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 2: I think, how involved were you with NBC bringing in 410 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:20,159 Speaker 2: Michael Jordan, Not at all. 411 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 8: You mean just now they're just this announcement they're bringing 412 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:24,359 Speaker 8: him back now. I mean they told me they were 413 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:26,639 Speaker 8: going to try and I said, good luck. I didn't 414 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:28,439 Speaker 8: honestly didn't think he was going to do it. 415 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:29,719 Speaker 3: You know. 416 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:33,440 Speaker 8: It took us, as you know, decades to convince him 417 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 8: to do the documentary, you know, the Last Dance, which 418 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:39,159 Speaker 8: came out during the pandemic and ended up still I 419 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:42,640 Speaker 8: think it's one of them, you know, widely viewed on Netflix. 420 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:45,199 Speaker 8: But he didn't you know, he didn't want to do 421 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 8: that for a long time. We had the footage, and 422 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:51,119 Speaker 8: I know there were other inquiries over the years, and 423 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 8: I think he, for whatever reason, he was ready to 424 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:53,679 Speaker 8: do it. 425 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:55,440 Speaker 3: Now. I think he. 426 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:59,200 Speaker 8: Has, of course, incredibly fond memories of NBC. I don't 427 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:03,640 Speaker 8: think that's lost on anyone he has. You know, as 428 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:05,720 Speaker 8: you well know, some of the very same people are there, 429 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:08,800 Speaker 8: people like John Miller, who he had a relationship from 430 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:12,399 Speaker 8: back all those years ago. You know, Mark Lazarus was 431 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:15,240 Speaker 8: still you know, they are just switched over to the 432 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 8: other side of the operation. But you know, so I 433 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:22,680 Speaker 8: think like he had those relationships and again I didn't 434 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 8: discourage them, but I was surprised he said, yes. 435 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:28,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, still trying to figure out what his role is 436 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:31,480 Speaker 2: going to be. Now do you follow up? Do you 437 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:34,160 Speaker 2: want Are you curious about what role Jordan is going 438 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:35,960 Speaker 2: to play with the upcoming camp? 439 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 1: Yeah? 440 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:39,359 Speaker 8: No, I I you know, well, I you know, I 441 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 8: didn't know in advance, but that you know, they told 442 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:44,960 Speaker 8: me what their idea was for him in that role, 443 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 8: and I think that they're still working through that. I 444 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:50,119 Speaker 8: think that, you know, I spoke to Michael about it. 445 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 8: I mean, he's he's excited about it. I think for him, 446 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:55,880 Speaker 8: it means he's got to stay current with the game. 447 00:23:55,920 --> 00:24:00,439 Speaker 8: Obviously he's he's a small owner still in Charlotte, but 448 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:03,640 Speaker 8: he he's so passionate about it. I mean we talked 449 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:05,239 Speaker 8: about it all the time. I mean, he you know, 450 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:07,200 Speaker 8: he wants the game to be played the right way. 451 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:08,920 Speaker 3: He he you. 452 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 8: Know, he's still got a huge business around the game 453 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 8: with the Jordan brand. But I think more importantly, he 454 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:17,960 Speaker 8: watches a lot of basketball and and you know, he 455 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 8: knows it's it's what defines him still and so I 456 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:26,120 Speaker 8: think fans are going to enjoy hearing his his take, you. 457 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:27,760 Speaker 3: Know, on on the modern League. 458 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 8: I think one of the things that I'm excited about 459 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:32,400 Speaker 8: in terms of NBC coming back, and this goes back 460 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:35,359 Speaker 8: to the Dick Eversol days, you know, is that I 461 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:39,520 Speaker 8: remember that sign behind Dick's desk that said storytelling. I mean, 462 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:42,080 Speaker 8: I think there's still some of the best edit you know, 463 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 8: and I think telling stories around the game, I mean 464 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:47,199 Speaker 8: even right now. I mean that's sort of this narrative 465 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 8: out there about small markets whatever else. I mean, you know, 466 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 8: incredible stories around Shay and you know in Tyres and 467 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:58,280 Speaker 8: Pascal Siakam. I mean, I my job too. You know, 468 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:00,320 Speaker 8: we first met when I was at NBA Entertainment. But 469 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:02,919 Speaker 8: to tell those stories to fans, I think that's what 470 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:06,159 Speaker 8: draws them in. I mean, there's the lovers of pure basketball, 471 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 8: and I think the basketball is fantastic, but you also 472 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:12,200 Speaker 8: have to show how multi dimensional lease players are and 473 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:16,719 Speaker 8: you know, explain to them the storylines, the conflict on 474 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 8: the floor. And nobody does that better than NBC. 475 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 2: You talked about Michael staying current. There are times when 476 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 2: Charles may not know who's even playing in a game 477 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:31,240 Speaker 2: that he's watching. Now, it's funny to us, but you're 478 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:35,040 Speaker 2: the commissioner and this is your lead broadcast team or 479 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 2: a studio show. How does that kind of settle with you? 480 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 2: When Charles may not even know who he's talking about, Well. 481 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:46,320 Speaker 3: That may be a little extreme. 482 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:48,879 Speaker 8: I mean, I'm down there a fair amount at their 483 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:51,440 Speaker 8: studio Atlanta. I mean, he's watching the games. I mean 484 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:56,879 Speaker 8: they made a decision to take an entertainment route with 485 00:25:57,000 --> 00:26:01,399 Speaker 8: that studio show. I mean, I think ESPN was always 486 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:05,159 Speaker 8: about more hardcore basketball. Maybe NBC was somewhere in the 487 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:07,520 Speaker 8: middle in the old days. But it's an entertainment show 488 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:12,119 Speaker 8: and he's entertaining and fans seem to love it. 489 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 3: You know. 490 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 8: Sometimes he's a bit of the crazy uncle, I think. 491 00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:19,640 Speaker 8: But even when he's I think there's a difference when 492 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 8: putting aside, you know, how focused he is on the game. 493 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:26,920 Speaker 8: My sense always when Charles is critical, it is a 494 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:29,880 Speaker 8: little bit like your uncle at the Thanksgiving table being critical. 495 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:31,960 Speaker 8: It's like there's no doubt it comes from a place 496 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:32,359 Speaker 8: of love. 497 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:33,240 Speaker 3: You know. 498 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 8: I don't feel the same way about some of the 499 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:38,879 Speaker 8: other commentators, and I think it's just it's you know, 500 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:42,760 Speaker 8: Charles found a lane and he does it well, and 501 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 8: it'll be interesting to see how that converts. As you know, 502 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:49,760 Speaker 8: they're now bringing that studio show to ESPN and ABC 503 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:54,439 Speaker 8: next year. I think, you know, we'll see how that 504 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,159 Speaker 8: works out. I mean, I you know, I love the 505 00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:59,160 Speaker 8: fact that those guys are still going to be involved 506 00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:01,880 Speaker 8: in are teleg has. But you know, I'm not sure 507 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:04,680 Speaker 8: whether it will be produced differently for them or they'll 508 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 8: be a different expectation from ESPN and ABC fans or 509 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:11,120 Speaker 8: watchers that maybe what people are seeing late at night 510 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:11,639 Speaker 8: on TNT. 511 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 2: He's the commissioner of the NBA, Adam Silver. You know, 512 00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:17,680 Speaker 2: everybody gets caught up in ratings and I just say, 513 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:21,720 Speaker 2: either watch it or not. You know, But the role 514 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:25,679 Speaker 2: that social media plays on your priority list because this 515 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 2: is a global game and people may not watch the game, 516 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:32,159 Speaker 2: but they're watching those clips. You know, you're you're getting 517 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:36,719 Speaker 2: views there. But as the commissioner, you got to, you know, 518 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:40,399 Speaker 2: pay homage to the networks. But where does social media 519 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:42,000 Speaker 2: rank on your priority list? 520 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 3: Social media is high in our priority list. 521 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 8: I mean, first of all, we've had something like a 522 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 8: billion view so far globally on social media, since the 523 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 8: finals have started. But also to get back to your 524 00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:57,359 Speaker 8: ratings point, I think what gets lost sometimes is just 525 00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:00,760 Speaker 8: like social media is global, so are the tellcasts of 526 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 8: our games. And I understand people wanting to talk about 527 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:09,960 Speaker 8: our domestic ratings and the extent that the ratings are down, 528 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:13,280 Speaker 8: that's a storyline or they're up, there's a storyline. And 529 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,360 Speaker 8: there is a correlation between market size more than I'm 530 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 8: happy about. You know, I was listening to Aaron Rodgers 531 00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:22,320 Speaker 8: yesterday and he was talking about now becoming a stealer 532 00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:24,199 Speaker 8: and we're saying, now, I've played for two of the 533 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:28,560 Speaker 8: most story franchises, the Packers and Steelers. But nobody stopped 534 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:31,240 Speaker 8: them to say, oh, those are small markets. And so 535 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 8: maybe I'm jealous in a way from the NFL that 536 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:37,399 Speaker 8: that's never you know, Steelers and Packers, the storyline is, 537 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 8: it's unimaginable. It would be can you believe two small 538 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:42,440 Speaker 8: markets they're meeting in the Super Bowl this year it's 539 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:46,840 Speaker 8: two storied franchises. And in the NBA, I think because 540 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 8: there was so much outsize success of certain franchises over 541 00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:54,560 Speaker 8: the first several decades of the league. I mean, the 542 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:57,440 Speaker 8: statistic is roughly over the first sixty five years of 543 00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:01,000 Speaker 8: the league, three teams won sixty percent of the championships, 544 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:06,280 Speaker 8: and so it's understandable that Laker Celtics Bowls still globally 545 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 8: have these huge followings because it gets almost passed on generationally. 546 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,440 Speaker 8: And to make ourselves more like the NFL, I think 547 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:15,880 Speaker 8: we're moving in that direction where we have a system 548 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:21,920 Speaker 8: now where Oklahoma City and Indianapolis can compete in the 549 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:25,080 Speaker 8: same way that larger markets can because of a cap 550 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:28,479 Speaker 8: system and tax and all that stuff. So it's going 551 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:30,280 Speaker 8: to take us a while to get there, but I 552 00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:32,920 Speaker 8: understand why ratings are part of the story. Now, the 553 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:35,400 Speaker 8: last part I'll say about social media. I do think 554 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:38,040 Speaker 8: something we're thinking a lot more about and getting more 555 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:43,000 Speaker 8: sophisticated about, is how do you translate social media into 556 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 8: a desire to watch live games. I'll give you just 557 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:49,440 Speaker 8: one example. I think we may even talked about it 558 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:52,400 Speaker 8: last time. I was on Victor Webb. Yama was in 559 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:55,720 Speaker 8: New York playing on Christmas and then played in Brooklyn 560 00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 8: a few days later, so he was staying in New 561 00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:00,479 Speaker 8: York around that time. He's a chess player. He went 562 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:04,800 Speaker 8: to Washington Square Park played chess in the rain for 563 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 8: forty five minutes. Within five days, one hundred million people 564 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:12,200 Speaker 8: had viewed him playing chess, and it was just anecdotally. 565 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 8: Anyone I would ask, because it was also on a 566 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 8: lot of the morning shows. I said, you see Victory, 567 00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 8: Oh yeah, that was the guy from France. 568 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:17,760 Speaker 3: He played. 569 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:22,240 Speaker 8: Now the question is seeing that he also plays chess, 570 00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:25,360 Speaker 8: and he's a by definition, you could say, a multi 571 00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:28,120 Speaker 8: dimensional guy. There's far more to him than ball playing. 572 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:30,840 Speaker 8: He speaks multiple languages, even the fact that he's you know, 573 00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,480 Speaker 8: grew up outside of Paris, et cetera. How do we 574 00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:37,840 Speaker 8: as the league use that to bring people to the 575 00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:43,760 Speaker 8: set to watch live games? Because I would say, looking back, 576 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 8: we've gotten distracted at times and forgotten sort of or 577 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:51,200 Speaker 8: I've forgotten that my core responsibility is to get more 578 00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:54,440 Speaker 8: people to be passionate about NBA basketball and watch our games. 579 00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:57,160 Speaker 8: That's what sustains our business. I mean, it's of course 580 00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:00,520 Speaker 8: ticket sales, but ticket sales are as high they've been 581 00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:02,520 Speaker 8: in the history of the league, and there's not a 582 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:04,600 Speaker 8: lot more room to grow because our buildings are roughly 583 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:08,360 Speaker 8: ninety five percent full. We have a global following, so 584 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:12,360 Speaker 8: there's enormous opportunity both through social media, but where the 585 00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:14,880 Speaker 8: real value comes is from people watching live games. So 586 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:17,640 Speaker 8: I think we can do a better job using social 587 00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:20,600 Speaker 8: media to bring people to the set to say, tonight 588 00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:24,440 Speaker 8: eight thirty ABC, you know, game three, tune in, and 589 00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:29,760 Speaker 8: to be more sophisticated about understanding is it would people 590 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:34,920 Speaker 8: rather see more about Shay Gilgess, Alexander's background, growing up 591 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:37,320 Speaker 8: in Canada, et cetera, what the things he loves or 592 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:40,320 Speaker 8: do they want to see him, you know, working out 593 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:43,560 Speaker 8: what aspects of him are going to cause people to 594 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:46,440 Speaker 8: be more likely to be interested in watching the game tonight. 595 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:49,520 Speaker 2: Why does the All Star Game have to be competitive? 596 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:55,240 Speaker 8: It's an interesting question because again I was just talking 597 00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:58,680 Speaker 8: about how jelosyam of aspects of the NFL. The Pro 598 00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:02,440 Speaker 8: Bowl at this point is flag football, and I think 599 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 8: that fans that seem to accept that it gets a 600 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:09,880 Speaker 8: good rating, and nobody suggests that that's indicative of a 601 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:13,760 Speaker 8: lack of desire or passion by NFL players for whatever reason. 602 00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:16,320 Speaker 8: In the case in the NBA, when we've tried other 603 00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:18,800 Speaker 8: things and thought, all right, we'll go more entertainment route 604 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:21,760 Speaker 8: or whatever else, the reaction is, I can't believe your 605 00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:24,280 Speaker 8: players aren't giving their all for an All Star Game, 606 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:27,640 Speaker 8: or at least maybe they don't expect them to play 607 00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:29,520 Speaker 8: like they would in the playoffs, but they're expecting a 608 00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 8: competitive game. 609 00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:32,600 Speaker 3: And so that's fair. 610 00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:35,720 Speaker 8: Then we have to respond to that, and I haven't 611 00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:38,280 Speaker 8: been successful frankly in the last few years. We tried 612 00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:41,360 Speaker 8: some new things in San Francisco. I mean, part of 613 00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:43,960 Speaker 8: it was there was a format issue. There was a 614 00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:47,160 Speaker 8: huge stoppage of play in the final. You know, we 615 00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:49,360 Speaker 8: had this round robin where you know, there was a 616 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:52,480 Speaker 8: celebration around Turner, which they deserve, but I think the game. 617 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:53,360 Speaker 3: Lost to aults momentum. 618 00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:56,440 Speaker 8: So something you've talked a lot about historically is this 619 00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:59,920 Speaker 8: USA World concept. And obviously so I watched what others 620 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,480 Speaker 8: sports are doing. The NHL had great success with the 621 00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:07,120 Speaker 8: four nation faceoff. So we're looking now for next year. 622 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:09,760 Speaker 8: We'll be in LA we'll be into a dome where 623 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:12,560 Speaker 8: the Olympics are going to take place in twenty eight 624 00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 8: and we're going to be on NBC. Back to NBC 625 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:16,760 Speaker 8: for the All Star Game, and we're going to be 626 00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 8: smack in the middle of winter Olympic coverage. So ever, 627 00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:22,800 Speaker 8: a time to move to USA World it's now. What 628 00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:26,239 Speaker 8: we're toying with now and working with Andrea Gudal at 629 00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:31,240 Speaker 8: the Players Association, is what's the right format because I 630 00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:34,360 Speaker 8: don't I think straight up USA World probably won't work 631 00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:37,880 Speaker 8: because although the number of international players is growing and 632 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:40,040 Speaker 8: is roughly thirty percent of our league right now, it 633 00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:42,120 Speaker 8: wouldn't be fair to pick the All Stars seventy percent 634 00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:44,880 Speaker 8: as one team thirty percent of the other. So I 635 00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:48,480 Speaker 8: think we're again playing off what the NHL did. Maybe 636 00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:52,160 Speaker 8: there's there's multiple teams, maybe there's more than one USA team, 637 00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:55,200 Speaker 8: but we can achieve that concept and I think create 638 00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:59,080 Speaker 8: a sense of nationalism around it and again feel like 639 00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:03,200 Speaker 8: we belong sort of on the Sunday where it's otherwise 640 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:07,160 Speaker 8: Olympic coverage. So I'm hopeful that we can create something 641 00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:08,120 Speaker 8: more competitive there. 642 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:11,120 Speaker 2: Do you have your wish list of expansion like the 643 00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:12,080 Speaker 2: cities right now? 644 00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:15,760 Speaker 3: There's cities we're thinking about. 645 00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:18,360 Speaker 2: How many cities would you say are on that wish list? 646 00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:23,720 Speaker 8: Well, let me begin by saying it it's not obvious 647 00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:26,399 Speaker 8: to me we should expand I think it's likely over 648 00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:28,880 Speaker 8: time we will. And the reason I say it's not 649 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:32,680 Speaker 8: obvious is because as a global business you know, where 650 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:35,839 Speaker 8: something like two billion people will connect with us on 651 00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:38,520 Speaker 8: social media, over a billion people over the course of 652 00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:42,160 Speaker 8: the year, we'll watch some portion of the game. Adding 653 00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:47,520 Speaker 8: another US city, arguably, it's unclear how much growth will 654 00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:49,720 Speaker 8: get as a result of that. And when you're adding 655 00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:55,279 Speaker 8: expansion franchises, you're diluting their competition two more Let's say 656 00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:57,600 Speaker 8: we expand by two teams, two more teams that you 657 00:34:57,640 --> 00:34:59,800 Speaker 8: know are going to be competing for those same players, 658 00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:02,840 Speaker 8: and you're diluting your economics the extent we have locked 659 00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:05,000 Speaker 8: in television money now for the next decade, you have 660 00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:08,520 Speaker 8: two more partners. Having said that, I do believe certain 661 00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:11,359 Speaker 8: markets potentially can be additive to the NBA, and that's 662 00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:13,319 Speaker 8: what we're going to look at. And I think part 663 00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:16,520 Speaker 8: of it is geographic. It's a big country, you know, 664 00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:20,800 Speaker 8: making sure we're represented, you know, all around the country, 665 00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:22,960 Speaker 8: and then over time, maybe there's more we can do 666 00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,759 Speaker 8: in Canada and Mexico City is a city we've talked 667 00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:30,160 Speaker 8: about before. You know, I don't want to say specific 668 00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:33,520 Speaker 8: cities today, just because many have reached out to us 669 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:36,799 Speaker 8: to say they're interested and I and our reaction so 670 00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:38,719 Speaker 8: far has been thank you for your interest. We haven't 671 00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:41,680 Speaker 8: taken any meetings with any cities. We have a board 672 00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:44,040 Speaker 8: meeting in Las Vegas around the Summer League in July. 673 00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:45,440 Speaker 8: I know we're going to be talking about it. 674 00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:45,640 Speaker 3: Then. 675 00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:48,440 Speaker 8: I had been saying for the last several years, let 676 00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:50,640 Speaker 8: us get through collective bargaining, which we did, let us 677 00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:53,440 Speaker 8: figure out our new media relationships, which we have, and 678 00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:55,320 Speaker 8: that would be the time to consider it seriously. 679 00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:56,960 Speaker 3: So that's what we're going to do this summer. 680 00:35:56,960 --> 00:36:01,480 Speaker 2: But I'm retiring in three years, Commissioner, I'm retiring in 681 00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:05,880 Speaker 2: three years. Will we have expansion in three years? 682 00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:07,600 Speaker 3: I'm honestly not sure. 683 00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:11,680 Speaker 8: I okay, I whether if, even if we were to 684 00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:14,799 Speaker 8: announce we're engaged in a process, it's not clear to 685 00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:17,759 Speaker 8: me at what moment they would start playing. But look this, 686 00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:19,960 Speaker 8: I don't mean to tease people with this. This is 687 00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:21,560 Speaker 8: the summer we're gonna look at it seriously. 688 00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:24,760 Speaker 2: I thought you'd be a little more emotional about my retirement. 689 00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:27,160 Speaker 2: I mean, it's kind of bleue right past that. 690 00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:29,640 Speaker 3: You're like Michael Jordan, you've retired before. 691 00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:34,480 Speaker 2: I'm not coming out. I'm not coming I'm not gonna 692 00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:37,520 Speaker 2: play baseball. Just gonna let you know I'm not gonna 693 00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:40,799 Speaker 2: let you, but hey, thanks for joining us. Have fun 694 00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:44,920 Speaker 2: tonight and thanks again. Yeah, thanks Dan, that's Adam Silver, 695 00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:50,239 Speaker 2: NBA commissioner. Not at least he'd give me a like a. 696 00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:50,640 Speaker 5: Like a courtesy. 697 00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:54,799 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh boy, man, we're gonna miss you. Don't 698 00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:58,720 Speaker 2: do it, Dan, Yeah, how can I keep you? Maybe 699 00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:03,200 Speaker 2: I could join the nb A Advisory Council. Well, he 700 00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:05,360 Speaker 2: tends to listen to some of my ideas. 701 00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:06,359 Speaker 5: I don't think that's dumb. 702 00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:07,759 Speaker 2: Thank you. 703 00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:09,640 Speaker 5: That's a pretty good comfiment. 704 00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:11,120 Speaker 2: All right, let's take a break. 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Dylan, one 724 00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:13,600 Speaker 2: of the backroom guys part of our gambling podcast, came 725 00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:17,319 Speaker 2: up with the idea or was following the idea on 726 00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:21,120 Speaker 2: social media nine beers, nine hot dogs in nine innings, 727 00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:23,799 Speaker 2: and he and a couple of the backroom guys went 728 00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:28,359 Speaker 2: to the Mets game last night and Dylan accomplished nine 729 00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:32,680 Speaker 2: hot dogs, nine beers in eight innings of work. But 730 00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:34,959 Speaker 2: it did go to ten innings, and then I thought, 731 00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:39,279 Speaker 2: are you supposed to do ten? Ten in ten and 732 00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:42,640 Speaker 2: he said he was done with the ninth hot dog, although, 733 00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:46,319 Speaker 2: being the journalist that I am, I found out that 734 00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:49,319 Speaker 2: they stopped at Whitecastle to have a couple of hamburgers 735 00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:53,399 Speaker 2: on the way home, finishing strong. Dylan, by the way, 736 00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:55,840 Speaker 2: has been in the bathroom for most of the morning, 737 00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:58,040 Speaker 2: just letting you know. He'll join us a little bit 738 00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:01,919 Speaker 2: later on to recap the with nine hot dogs, nine 739 00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:05,000 Speaker 2: beers in nine innings. Stat of the day is always 740 00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:08,360 Speaker 2: brought to you by Beniny America, the official trading cards 741 00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:11,880 Speaker 2: of the program. We'll hear from Aaron Rodgers coming up 742 00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:15,040 Speaker 2: next hour. Stefan Diggs as well will head to the 743 00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:19,719 Speaker 2: US Open getting underway at Oakmont on Thursday. Chris Simms 744 00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:23,600 Speaker 2: from Pro Football Talk will stop by as well, recapping 745 00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:27,440 Speaker 2: a couple of things that the commissioner said. First of all, 746 00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:29,480 Speaker 2: he was surprised that NBC was going to reach out 747 00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:32,360 Speaker 2: to Michael Jordan and even said, hey, good luck. I 748 00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:37,400 Speaker 2: met Adam Silver back in the late eighties and he 749 00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:42,440 Speaker 2: was at NBA Entertainment, and so I've known him over 750 00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:45,960 Speaker 2: forty years. But I remember that they had a crew 751 00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:50,080 Speaker 2: that followed Michael Jordan during the NBA Finals and really 752 00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:53,320 Speaker 2: followed him a lot more than that, and I kept wondering, 753 00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:56,520 Speaker 2: I never see that video. I never see the footage. 754 00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:58,839 Speaker 2: And then all of a sudden we realized they were 755 00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:03,440 Speaker 2: stockpiling all this and then still waiting for Jordan to 756 00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:06,400 Speaker 2: sign off and say all right, let's make a documentary. 757 00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:08,880 Speaker 2: And they finally did, and of course she got the 758 00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:12,400 Speaker 2: last dance. But Adam Silver was involved with that. With 759 00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:18,360 Speaker 2: NBA Entertainment, the All Star format, it doesn't sound like 760 00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:20,240 Speaker 2: it's cut and dried. It's going to be the United 761 00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:25,080 Speaker 2: States versus the world here because you don't have the 762 00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:28,720 Speaker 2: depth on the rosters with the World. But I'd still 763 00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:33,000 Speaker 2: like to have that starting five against the United States 764 00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:36,760 Speaker 2: starting five. He also brought up the TNT show inside 765 00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:40,560 Speaker 2: the NBA with Chuck and you know, Kenny, Chack and Ernie, 766 00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:45,719 Speaker 2: and I think saying, I hope it doesn't become nuts 767 00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:46,280 Speaker 2: and bolts. 768 00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:47,120 Speaker 3: Now. 769 00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:49,640 Speaker 2: He didn't say he's concerned, but I think that there's 770 00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:53,920 Speaker 2: a I hope that they keep this the way it is, like, 771 00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:59,160 Speaker 2: this is entertainment. Now. The other commissioner, David Stern, might 772 00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:03,680 Speaker 2: have had a different view of Charles, maybe not knowing 773 00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:05,000 Speaker 2: everybody in the NBA. 774 00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:08,120 Speaker 6: Yes, Marvin, it's a little difficult when you have a 775 00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:09,759 Speaker 6: segment called who he played for? 776 00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:16,279 Speaker 2: But it's entertainment. It's awesome, it's entertainment. ESPN can do 777 00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:18,680 Speaker 2: the nuts and bolts. But I thought that that was 778 00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:23,160 Speaker 2: interesting and expansion because it feels like it's a foregone conclusion. 779 00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:25,960 Speaker 2: But what he's saying is, wait, we got broadcast partners, 780 00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:28,799 Speaker 2: you got teams. They already know how much money they're 781 00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:32,040 Speaker 2: going to make. Now you bring expansion in, what are 782 00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:35,040 Speaker 2: they paying to get in? And how are you divvying 783 00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:38,040 Speaker 2: up the piece of the pie there? And he brought 784 00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:41,719 Speaker 2: up Canada, and he brought up Mexico City, so it 785 00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:45,120 Speaker 2: didn't sound like a foregone conclusion of Seattle in Las Vegas. 786 00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:48,600 Speaker 2: One hour in the books already on this Wednesday. Two 787 00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:52,720 Speaker 2: more to go. Todd's here, Marvin's here, Seaton's here, Paula 788 00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:55,960 Speaker 2: yours truly the back room guys, Hour two on the 789 00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:56,960 Speaker 2: way right after this