Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to season three thirty one,
Speaker 1: episode five of Derdilly's Guys Day production of iHeartRadio Whoop.
Speaker 1: This is a podcast where we take a deep dive
Speaker 1: into america shared consciousness. And it is Friday, March twenty ninth,
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four. I just absolutely housed half a brito.
Speaker 1: So you're gonna hear me like having weird things fre
Speaker 1: I'm like trying to you know that they're digestive things
Speaker 1: happening behind my voice that might affect how things sound. Anyways,
Speaker 1: my name is Jack O'Brien aka eight six seven five
Speaker 1: Jack Obrii and that is courtesy of hanoramic View on
Speaker 1: the Discord. I feel like that might have been done before,
Speaker 1: but it's a It's an absolute classic once again from
Speaker 1: hanoramic View on an absolute tear right now, like a
Speaker 1: DiMaggio esque streak of consistency from hannaham View on the Discord.
Speaker 1: It is wonderful to have you back, Hannah. I'm thrilled
Speaker 1: to be joined in my second seat by a guest
Speaker 1: co host. With the guest my host. You know him
Speaker 1: from stuff they don't want you to know, ridiculous history.
Speaker 1: Please welcome the brilliant and talented Ben Bolan.
Speaker 2: Yes, they get Ben Bowling, Yes back yeah, aka secret Frenchman.
Speaker 1: I yes, which, well, all right, which will makes sense.
Speaker 1: We'll explain it once we bring in our guests. Our
Speaker 1: guest thrilled to be joined by one of the best
Speaker 1: podcast hosts doing it. Also a thing that I usually
Speaker 1: say when I introduced Ben, one of the best podcasts.
Speaker 1: We got two of the best podcasts, so pack podcast
Speaker 1: hosts doing it. He's my old friend from the crack
Speaker 1: day as a Jeopardy champion, the host of the wonderful
Speaker 1: podcast secretly incredibly fascinating. It's alichman.
Speaker 3: It's so good to be here and filling in the
Speaker 3: cannon for folks.
Speaker 2: Immediately.
Speaker 3: Ben was very nice when he met me, and he
Speaker 3: brought up Jeopardy, but he sort of said it like
Speaker 3: Jeppardine a little bit, and we noticed that he might
Speaker 3: have been secretly French this whole time.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, his mask slipped and he's French. You know,
Speaker 1: that's the stuff they don't want you to know. Ben
Speaker 1: Boleen a French guy, don't I don't know if we
Speaker 1: can handle it, folks. It wasn't he he didn't even
Speaker 1: say it was just like he was like, I see
Speaker 1: you were on Jeopardy, like it the way it was,
Speaker 1: like the way he came up at the end, the
Speaker 1: up speak at the end, but like, yeah, there was
Speaker 1: just something very suspiciously French about the whole thing.
Speaker 2: Then I'm just you know, we're talking about it, guys,
Speaker 2: and I am so impressed by anybody who can go
Speaker 2: on Jeopardy. Was a bit of a conversational gambit because Alex,
Speaker 2: I have followed your work as he gets knew I'm
Speaker 2: a huge fan of Cracked a com and a lot
Speaker 2: of the other work that you've done. Well, it was
Speaker 2: a conversational gambit, you know, like there was there was
Speaker 2: a non zero chance that I might have guessed the
Speaker 2: wrong Alex, you know, and I would have gotten a
Speaker 2: Jeopardy question wrong literally, So that's that's why. But I
Speaker 2: am aware of the show. I know it's a thing.
Speaker 1: All thoughts and answers will be expressed in the form
Speaker 1: of questions. During this episode, it was just going to
Speaker 1: be a real mind fuck. Well we're not up to it,
Speaker 1: but we're gonna do it anyways, loud buzzers to watch
Speaker 1: out just huge. Yeah. After I like start a sentence,
Speaker 1: and don't really figure out where it's going. We'll get
Speaker 1: the time out sound man Ben Bolin my my crow master.
Speaker 1: Yeah I have. I keep going over to my window
Speaker 1: to check because I'm in a bit of a conundrum
Speaker 1: with it. So Ben was good, like gave me detailed
Speaker 1: notes on how to make friends with the murder of
Speaker 1: crows that was menacing my backyard. Now I have a
Speaker 1: situation where a squirrel is eating the nuts that I'm
Speaker 1: leaving out for the crows, and you can like actually
Speaker 1: see the squirrel get fatter, like day to day, the
Speaker 1: squirrel is so fat from all the like I said,
Speaker 1: I'm worried about the squirrel's health now, but it doesn't
Speaker 1: stop him from coming back from multiple feedings. But anyways,
Speaker 1: I think I'm making progress with the crows, but they're
Speaker 1: they can be withholding.
Speaker 2: We talked about this man's we were hanging out earlier,
Speaker 2: and I know it might have been coming off kind
Speaker 2: of strange, where the first thing I asked you instead
Speaker 2: of like, oh, hey, it's good to see you, how
Speaker 2: are you? How is your life? Instead I was like,
Speaker 2: fill me in on the crow situation.
Speaker 1: Man, how's the murder? You said, how's the murder really
Speaker 1: loud in a crowded room, and I because I do,
Speaker 1: you know, dabble and murder. So it was very yeah
Speaker 1: again trying to get away with it like no.
Speaker 2: Big big fan of your workman, Oh thanks thanks, Yeah.
Speaker 1: Of the murders, yeah, of my murders. But Alex, how
Speaker 1: have you been doing? Been a while doing great things?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I don't know. It's been a good start
Speaker 1: to the spring.
Speaker 3: And and their podcast SAFF is doing a membership drive
Speaker 3: that has been going well. And I'm going to travel
Speaker 3: soon to Columbus, Ohio to see family. I'm very excited
Speaker 3: visit Columbus, Ohio.
Speaker 1: Yeah you have to tips.
Speaker 3: Yeah, my brother and my sister in law and their
Speaker 3: new baby. So that's all very nice.
Speaker 2: Is it your first time going to Columbus.
Speaker 1: It actually is. Yeah, yeah, they haven't been there that long. Yeah. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's where one doctor, mister Cody Johnston is from, I believe. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: home of Ohio State University. Maybe I will get a
Speaker 1: buck eye thing or find out exactly.
Speaker 3: What a buck eye is. I know it's a very
Speaker 3: hard tree seed of some kind it is.
Speaker 1: Find out Yeah, I once got when I lived in Dayton, Ohio.
Speaker 1: I once got into a fight with some neighborhood kids
Speaker 1: who lived up the street, and we were throwing buckeyes
Speaker 1: at one another, and then I threw their bike into
Speaker 1: the creek. I just like went from like one to
Speaker 1: a thousand, like right away, you Hodel, Yeah, Yeah, I
Speaker 1: was crying. I was weeping the whole time that I
Speaker 1: did it, So it was not very hulky. More. I
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know who the superhero character is
Speaker 1: who is weeping? Well, he doesn't have damage, yeah, just
Speaker 1: very emotionally unstable eight year old. All right, well, Alex,
Speaker 1: we are thrilled to have you here. We're gonna get
Speaker 1: to know you a little bit better in a moment. First,
Speaker 1: we're going to tell the listeners a couple of the
Speaker 1: things we're talking about. We're gonna talk economics. We got
Speaker 1: to caut three storied economists on the show. No, I
Speaker 1: actually have no idea what what you guys is economist?
Speaker 1: Econ bona fides are? I don't know shit. I've been
Speaker 1: puzzling over this. This story has been on the dock
Speaker 1: for like three weeks. It's a mess, but I'm just
Speaker 1: like trying to get my head around this story that
Speaker 1: I keep seeing where it's like the economy is not
Speaker 1: behaving the way we expect it to, and but it
Speaker 1: is behaving the way like I would expect it to
Speaker 1: based on like what I know about how things are
Speaker 1: currently working. So I just want to like talk through
Speaker 1: some of the things that seem to be missing from
Speaker 1: the mainstream conversation on economics.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and and make sure, just like for a bend
Speaker 3: to understand it, they'll probably want to convert it into
Speaker 3: like euros or frames.
Speaker 1: Right, yes, or something I guess yeah, yeah, So imagine
Speaker 1: I got three bag gets, all right, okay, and then
Speaker 1: you come with a clip.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, the French burrito as you
Speaker 2: called it, the French burrito.
Speaker 1: Yes, then we'll get into even more serious stuff. Seven
Speaker 1: eleven's hot Dog Seltzer. They've just announced there's a hot
Speaker 1: hot dog Seltzer. And it's not a holiday season unless
Speaker 1: people on the right have created a fake war on it,
Speaker 1: and so Easter coming up on Sunday. There's a controversy,
Speaker 1: a controversy happening because it's happening in the UK. So
Speaker 1: isn't that how they say it? They like put the
Speaker 1: emphasis on a different syllable. But yeah, it's the biggest
Speaker 1: British candy controversy since Willy Wanka murdered all those kids.
Speaker 1: So we'll talk about that because they're taking the word
Speaker 1: Easter off some Cadbury eggs and people are pissed. But
Speaker 1: before we get to how would you know the egg
Speaker 1: candy is about Easter without the word? Right, there's so
Speaker 1: many egg candy, which which egg candy is this?
Speaker 2: This is right? All the other news stories in the
Speaker 2: world need to take a seat because that's the real issue. Right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're actually going to skip the economic thing and
Speaker 1: just go get right to the Easter candy because that
Speaker 1: is what's important. But before we get to that incredibly
Speaker 1: important story, Alex, we do like to get to know
Speaker 1: our guests by asking them what is either something from
Speaker 1: your search history or something that you recently screencapped.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I saw a very good TikTok because it
Speaker 3: debunked another TikTok. It led me to do a lot
Speaker 3: of googling of pen and Teller's friendship, whether the magician's
Speaker 3: pen and teller our friends or not, because.
Speaker 1: The do not tell me that's also an illusion. That
Speaker 1: was the thing that what I saw.
Speaker 3: It's a stitch, right, Like they show the start to
Speaker 3: somebody's video and then something else. Yeah, and so the
Speaker 3: initial video was somebody claiming that Penn and Teller hate
Speaker 3: each other and can't stand each other and ever spend
Speaker 3: time together, and then they debunked it by it's the
Speaker 3: account is October Dad.
Speaker 1: I just want to credit them. But they didn't speak.
Speaker 3: They just showed a clip of Pen and Teller talking
Speaker 3: about how much they care about each other. I mean,
Speaker 3: it's just Penn talking, but Teller is nodding, you know,
Speaker 3: and and they It turns out there's basically a thing
Speaker 3: where in some interviews Penn has said that they were
Speaker 3: not initially super close and like there wasn't a lot
Speaker 3: of emotional things going into their decision to be a partnership.
Speaker 3: And then if you do the full quotes, full context fully,
Speaker 3: just see them express it. It's this really fascinating thing
Speaker 3: about creative partnerships where he talks about how they over
Speaker 3: forty plus years, have grown into being each other's closest
Speaker 3: friends and really care about each other. Oh shit, ohn
Speaker 3: him burn his A.
Speaker 2: That's interesting, bro. Yeah, I've heard something like this. I'm
Speaker 2: glad to hear it debunked. I guess familiarity he creates
Speaker 2: that friendship, right, But I was under the impression it
Speaker 2: was a business decision, and I in the beginning, right,
Speaker 2: And it makes me think of you know, famous comedy
Speaker 2: duos like Mitchell and Webb, you know, you always you
Speaker 2: always want to picture, you know, the partnerships being cool
Speaker 2: friends who hang out. Were already really close, and then
Speaker 2: they just said, let's also do this as our job.
Speaker 2: But I was, I'm so glad this is busted, Alex,
Speaker 2: because I was under the impression it was solely a
Speaker 2: business relationship, you know, where like they've been together for
Speaker 2: forty years and now they're just getting to the point
Speaker 2: where they vaguely know the names of each other's spouses
Speaker 2: or something like that.
Speaker 1: But right, was Sally always a question mark at the
Speaker 1: name Jeopardy?
Speaker 2: Is that.
Speaker 1: Jeffardy? How you say? He did say before already said jeopardy?
Speaker 1: Said he did say, how you say Jeopardy? Which is
Speaker 1: what kind of compelled man? And he kept playing the accordion.
Speaker 1: It was so weird.
Speaker 2: You gotta put the practice in, is the thing. Guys. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you can't just pick it up.
Speaker 3: Exactly like they as he talked about he said that,
Speaker 3: for one thing, when they started working together, Penn was
Speaker 3: around eighteen years old and Teller was around twenty five
Speaker 3: years old. So they have aged into that feeling normal
Speaker 3: because they're both just old now. But like it is
Speaker 3: really the one who talks.
Speaker 1: Penn talks. Yeah, Pen talks.
Speaker 2: Teller get it because he's what teller, He's the teller
Speaker 2: and he got it.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh that's full neumonic and also probably the whole
Speaker 1: point and I just missed it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And he said, like when they would first speak,
Speaker 3: because behind the scenes they both speak, but like he
Speaker 3: described it as almost like an email relationship verbally, early
Speaker 3: on it would just be we like they met each
Speaker 3: other in the scene of doing and they would basically
Speaker 3: only talk to like go over things. And then they
Speaker 3: lived together and spent basically every minute together because that
Speaker 3: worked financially and also they could work together a lot.
Speaker 3: But then yeah, he went on to describe it's just
Speaker 3: Pen talking. But he goes on and he's describing like, yeah,
Speaker 3: like just over time, the profound amount of respect we
Speaker 3: have for each other has made it so were each
Speaker 3: other's closest friends. Like tell her is the first person
Speaker 3: who saw my children other than me and my wife
Speaker 3: after they were born. And he contrasted it with something
Speaker 3: like Lennon and McCartney, where he said, like Lennon and
Speaker 3: McCartney is a love affair, So like that's explosive and
Speaker 3: that can burn out, and there's a lot of emotion
Speaker 3: going into working together. But we just have had such
Speaker 3: profound respect for each other the entire time that we
Speaker 3: didn't need to be emotionally close early on, and we
Speaker 3: have become each other's closest friend.
Speaker 2: Also, you know interesting, it makes you wonder when you
Speaker 2: work really closely with someone, even if you vibe with
Speaker 2: them very well, you get to a point where you
Speaker 2: don't want to also hang out after work, right, Like
Speaker 2: you see, you see someone every day for eight hours.
Speaker 2: Don't you want to have a Saturday to yourself? You know?
Speaker 1: Yeah? And fans just expect because that's the only way
Speaker 1: they know you. They expect that that's how you exist
Speaker 1: off mic or off you know stage as well, or
Speaker 1: off Beatles. I don't know what the term is for.
Speaker 3: That, but wings, it's wings.
Speaker 1: I was just going to bring up the Beatles because yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, there's this like physics of truth on the Internet,
Speaker 1: where like whatever, the most counterfactual version of things is
Speaker 1: going to be like the most interesting and that's the
Speaker 1: thing that's going to get like spread so like and
Speaker 1: I don't maybe it's not just the Internet. I think
Speaker 1: it's maybe like just how truth and like history works,
Speaker 1: because like I was, I remember when the Beatles documentary
Speaker 1: came out, the the one where they like get back
Speaker 1: just the like being struck by how much you could
Speaker 1: tell they actually enjoyed each other's company. There was definitely
Speaker 1: like a whole history there, but there was an unmistakable
Speaker 1: thing that had been missing for me, Like I assumed
Speaker 1: they would be icy toward one another at this point
Speaker 1: late in the like when they had already like kind
Speaker 1: of broken up and then gotten back together, and like
Speaker 1: they there was so much at stake, and then you
Speaker 1: see them like get into the studio together and like
Speaker 1: some of them are showing up like four hours late,
Speaker 1: and like they're immediately just like hey man, like it's
Speaker 1: just watching like two old friends hang out, and like
Speaker 1: that just kind of gets erased from the version that
Speaker 1: we like tell each other because it's not as interesting
Speaker 1: to be like, you know, these people who were great
Speaker 1: like songwriting collaborators. Yeah, they like got along pretty pretty well.
Speaker 1: They were a good day day Yeah, yeah, exactly good
Speaker 1: days of bad day. Yeah, almost like you know your parents,
Speaker 1: and how uninteresting you think they their relationship is, like
Speaker 1: imagine that for every relationship and yeah boring see yeah,
Speaker 1: normal information boo boo. They hated each other, McCartney had
Speaker 1: Lennon killed. They what show is this? Yeah, yeah, that's right.
Speaker 1: There's something they don't want you know. Sometimes they don't
Speaker 1: want you to know it because it's not true.
Speaker 2: So we have repaired the reputation of and Teller.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there you go. And I just like their work.
Speaker 1: So it was a treat to like see and for
Speaker 1: to and get good news, you know. Yeah. God, the
Speaker 1: Beatles documentary really did make me want to, Like, I
Speaker 1: feel like I could watch that for every creative partnership,
Speaker 1: just like I want to see them in a room
Speaker 1: together and maybe some of them would be like say
Speaker 1: see and not get along well, but yeah, give me
Speaker 1: the Penn and Teller documentary of like getting to see them.
Speaker 1: Fucking it's crazy like that Penn was like some young
Speaker 1: phenom because he's always looked approximately like forty eight years
Speaker 1: old to me, like ever since he's been famous, Like
Speaker 1: there's just something about him that always appears the same
Speaker 1: middle aged person that he was, like the Lebron James
Speaker 1: of like comedy magic. He's like coming out todd fully
Speaker 1: formed as an eighteen year old. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I heard an interview with him once he started like
Speaker 3: busking as a teenager on streets. He's just been doing
Speaker 3: this as young as you can do it.
Speaker 2: Magic busking. So just like that's not the right word,
Speaker 2: but I've been to the idea.
Speaker 1: No street magic is the best. Yeah, it's true.
Speaker 2: Only real art form left.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no hyperbole my favorite move by the magicians. Like
Speaker 1: I I got this like once when I was like
Speaker 1: kind of pretty drunk at a bar in New York
Speaker 1: City and I'm just like approached me and my friends,
Speaker 1: and man, you because you're like, you know, three steps
Speaker 1: slow at that point, and you are just I was
Speaker 1: just blown away. I was like, I I want to
Speaker 1: like marry this guy. This is the craziest thing I've
Speaker 1: ever seen. He's really magic, Like I would for a
Speaker 1: year after I saw that, I swore up and down
Speaker 1: like I met a person who was actually magical because wow, yeah,
Speaker 1: just like going into bars and doing up close magic.
Speaker 1: I feel like it's probably the easiest thing like a magician.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you have to you have to really have what
Speaker 2: do we call it now? You have to really have
Speaker 2: the riz to like say, someone.
Speaker 1: You can go ahead and say how you say.
Speaker 2: All right, okay, yeah, transparency.
Speaker 1: They have to have the real how you say, rezu
Speaker 1: Wait what.
Speaker 2: What thing though? What thing though? Do you recall the
Speaker 2: specific trick this guy did? It was card tricks, card trick,
Speaker 2: card tricks.
Speaker 1: But it was like the ones. Yeah. It wasn't like
Speaker 1: is this your card? It was like, you know, the
Speaker 1: card is in some girl walking by his back pocket
Speaker 1: and it has my signature on it like that sort
Speaker 1: of Okay, that's impressive. It's inside an apple that he
Speaker 1: just like, you know, pulled off of a Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: crazy stuff.
Speaker 2: Unfold this buck eye.
Speaker 1: Yeah exactly.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, tell me about a traumatic memory from your childhood.
Speaker 1: The buck guy. As you say, huh, well open up
Speaker 1: this buck eye? How did he have a buck eye?
Speaker 1: And this young man is the person who's bike you
Speaker 1: threw into the creek? Oh wow? Yeah? What uh? Alex?
Speaker 1: What is something you think is underrated?
Speaker 3: So underrated? I want to shout out cherry Coke zero. Okay,
Speaker 3: it's a fantastic and I I thought about it for
Speaker 3: a weird reason because me and my buddy Katie Golden,
Speaker 3: we made like a weird TV recap podcast recently and
Speaker 3: we almost did it about a TV show called The
Speaker 3: Young Pope, which is not a very good show.
Speaker 2: I remember years ago.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and like ju Law is the Young Pope, And
Speaker 3: the one thing I always think about with that show
Speaker 3: is that his character was obsessed with cherry Coke zero.
Speaker 3: So it's a show where like the Pope is going
Speaker 3: around the Vatican and before a meeting he'll be like,
Speaker 3: where's my cherry Coke zero? At one point he just
Speaker 3: says like cherry coke zero and like a pounding his
Speaker 3: fist on the tableway, and unfortunately he is correct. It's
Speaker 3: a fantastic beverage. I want to have it all the time.
Speaker 3: I guess, I guess we're celebrating Good Friday by talking
Speaker 3: about the Pope Cherry Coke zero Friday.
Speaker 1: Have a good Friday Friday, the best of Fridays. But
Speaker 1: it's great. It's a it's a step up from coke zero.
Speaker 1: If you've only had that.
Speaker 2: Oh, what do you think about the You know, coke
Speaker 2: is always experimenting, right, full disclosure. I am based in Atlanta, Georgia,
Speaker 2: and so we hear a lot weird coke stuff. We
Speaker 2: get our finger on the pulse, you know, we we
Speaker 2: get weird the wild swings. Some times just will show
Speaker 2: up in your neighborhood, like there was, for instance, recently,
Speaker 2: there was Coca Cola Dream and I tried it, right, Yeah,
Speaker 2: And in their defense, they never said whether it was
Speaker 2: a good dream or not, but that was I was
Speaker 2: not the vibe for me, man. And they've got they've
Speaker 2: they've always got these new flavors coming out. So cherry
Speaker 2: Coke zero, that's one for you.
Speaker 3: Yes, I I'm glad you bring up dream because I
Speaker 3: was not into that. The spiced coke is okay, it's
Speaker 3: just called spice. It's not a doing thing or whatever.
Speaker 1: And uh.
Speaker 3: And then at one point they did like seven fruit
Speaker 3: flavors of diet coke, and I was mostly not into those. Yeah,
Speaker 3: they were very Coke zero though as a winner, it's
Speaker 3: and it's pretty available. You don't have to be I
Speaker 3: assume you're you have some kind of Atlanta vault that
Speaker 3: you open up then and just grab it whenever you want.
Speaker 2: I'm so plugged in. You know, we got retinal scans.
Speaker 2: We've got actually the Coca Cola Museum, which is heavy
Speaker 2: propaganda just to be completely always.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you've been there, there is the culmination of
Speaker 2: the tour is a Willy Wonka esque room where you
Speaker 2: can try, at least at the time I went, because
Speaker 2: all the kids take a field trip there. You can
Speaker 2: try every single flavor of beverage that the Coca Cola
Speaker 2: company makes. Yeah, and it's you know, there's some cinematography
Speaker 2: or a choreography of the soda, I would say, because
Speaker 2: it shoots across the room in an art what Yeah,
Speaker 2: and you're like amazing and you.
Speaker 1: Try it sounds so sticky, Yeah, shooting through the air.
Speaker 2: Shout out to the custodial staff. Yeah, that's rough around
Speaker 2: like six point thirty PM.
Speaker 1: Like that must be they must be like recruiting custodians
Speaker 1: around the country, just saying like this guy's got talent,
Speaker 1: Like looking at close caption and CCTV footage of like
Speaker 1: people wiping up spills, being like, this guy's like a
Speaker 1: first round draft pick. We got to get him in
Speaker 1: the Coke Fountain Room.
Speaker 2: And they have PTSD from it. You know, they talk
Speaker 2: about they talk about their scene some ship man, you know,
Speaker 2: Cherry Coke zero. I can't look at it.
Speaker 1: Cherry Coke zero. I've never purchased it outside of a
Speaker 1: movie theater, but it is my whatever that like universal
Speaker 1: Freestyle Coke Machine is just as a system. Oh my god. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I go Coke zero and then I put the cherry
Speaker 1: in and it's bright red for some reason. And man,
Speaker 1: I love that there's like a bright red I mean
Speaker 1: not the whole drink, but there is like a you know,
Speaker 1: in the in the machine, there's like a portion of
Speaker 1: the stream that is bright red. So there's like some
Speaker 1: manner of like Cherry zero that's coming in that I
Speaker 1: think makes it different than the the Hot Pop Bottled
Speaker 1: Cherry Coke Zero's version. The Hot wasn't That wasn't that
Speaker 1: basically his the character was what if? What if the
Speaker 1: hope fucked? Like it was.
Speaker 2: It was so weird because it went through like you
Speaker 2: sometimes you watch a show and you become very curious
Speaker 2: about the creative process in the writer's room, you know,
Speaker 2: And I thought, maybe these guys just got real deep
Speaker 2: on cherry coke Zebra, or maybe they had like they
Speaker 2: were like, here's a checklist, or maybe maybe Jude Law
Speaker 2: came in and he was like, I will do this
Speaker 2: with the with the following eccentricities.
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, I'm not sure if that's the particular variety
Speaker 1: of coke that that show was written on, but yeah,
Speaker 1: right exactly.
Speaker 2: It's non negotiable.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: What a blast from the past. Man, But I can't.
Speaker 1: It's unhinged.
Speaker 2: It is unhinged, it is une it is it is freestyling.
Speaker 2: That's what they did. It is off the dome. What
Speaker 2: if there was a pope who was Jude Law? Drop
Speaker 2: the beat? You know, drop the beat?
Speaker 1: Now? Yeah, there there is a fascination with Catholicism in
Speaker 1: like I think that was made by like a great filmmaker,
Speaker 1: like a European filmmaker. That was like people were there, yeah,
Speaker 1: an Italian filmmaker. Everyone was like, you know, this prison
Speaker 1: does not miss. Like what are they going to make next?
Speaker 1: HBO was like blank check, what do you want to make?
Speaker 1: And they're like a show about like what if what
Speaker 1: if pope was young and kind of hot?
Speaker 2: That's the bitch, right, that's what they did.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but like Scorsese's making a new series for Fox Nation.
Speaker 1: We talked about this on yesterday's Trending. It's making a
Speaker 1: new series for the Fox, like the place where shows
Speaker 1: that were turned down by everybody else go to, like
Speaker 1: have a brief afterlife the Fox Nation, right, like the
Speaker 1: streaming platform. Scorsese's making a show about the Saints for
Speaker 1: that station.
Speaker 2: Like are they hot? Are they hot? Saints?
Speaker 1: Probably hotter than you would expect, but unclear, and I
Speaker 1: just I don't Yeah, the Catholicism when people are like, hey,
Speaker 1: you know what, it's like Pascal's wager is like, you know,
Speaker 1: religion can't be all bad, and like what what's the
Speaker 1: worst that can happen? You know? You just you go
Speaker 1: to heaven and it's like, well, no, you like waste
Speaker 1: a lot of good talent and energy on stuff could
Speaker 1: could have been otherwise. But who knows. Maybe hot Pope
Speaker 1: is uh is cool and I'm missing out sounds like
Speaker 1: I am.
Speaker 3: It's made by Italian filmmaker and then July is an
Speaker 3: English actor, right, but he's also playing an American pope
Speaker 3: Like a lot of pitches like what if the pope
Speaker 3: was hot and really young? So he's going to be
Speaker 3: pope for a long long time and American what if
Speaker 3: these three crises strike?
Speaker 1: You know, and he.
Speaker 2: Is like cartoonishly new York really yeah, yeah, dude, Hey,
Speaker 2: am the pope over here?
Speaker 1: Exactly that.
Speaker 2: And the drink.
Speaker 3: I think the drink is maybe supposed to be a
Speaker 3: joke about Americans. I think he doesn't have coffee or
Speaker 3: tea or whatever, like he's looking for mourning cherry coke zero. Right,
Speaker 3: So I think it's like kind of a It's like
Speaker 3: the joke on Arrested Development where the American themed restaurants
Speaker 3: piles of doughnuts that no one could ever eat. Like,
Speaker 3: it's like kind of how dumb we are?
Speaker 1: Mourning cherry coke zero is one of is in the
Speaker 1: coke vault, but it's spelled m O U r n
Speaker 1: I n G. It's supposed to give you a feeling
Speaker 1: of foreboding and sadness. Yeah, slogan pour one out and
Speaker 1: poor went out directly into your mouth. All right, let's
Speaker 1: take a quick break. We'll come back, we'll talk overrated,
Speaker 1: we'll talk economy. Will be right back and we're back,
Speaker 1: and Alex, we do like to ask our guests, as
Speaker 1: you may know, what is something you think is over rate?
Speaker 2: It overrated?
Speaker 3: Yeah, and this has especially been in baseball news for
Speaker 3: the past week or so. But I think we have
Speaker 3: overrated the amount of sports gambling advertising that sports can
Speaker 3: sustain and withhold and support. I think it's just it's
Speaker 3: just more than it can handle. Because there's been a
Speaker 3: concern about either Shohe or Tani or his translator or
Speaker 3: somebody doing humongus gambling on sports, and then every baseball
Speaker 3: thing you look at has sports gambling advertising on it,
Speaker 3: so it's sort of a wonky partnership.
Speaker 1: It's a little much.
Speaker 2: Did you I guess the first question a lot of
Speaker 2: people listening today will have is, uh, is this an objective? Overrated?
Speaker 2: Or did you get burned?
Speaker 1: I'm in a lot of debt to a lot of
Speaker 1: bad people.
Speaker 3: I it's probably not objective because I get so anxious
Speaker 3: about gambling anything, Like if I gamble, it is so
Speaker 3: beyond not fun for me. Like and like the one
Speaker 3: time I sports gambled in Vegas, I bet on the
Speaker 3: White Sox to win one baseball game and they won
Speaker 3: and I won the bet, and I still didn't like
Speaker 3: have a great time.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, that's horrible. That was a horrible
Speaker 1: anxious situation. Yeah, I like it too much, so I
Speaker 1: just like, don't do it, because when I win, I
Speaker 1: do think that I'm invincible for twenty four hours. I'm
Speaker 1: just like, oh really, yeah.
Speaker 2: I feel like I So I've had to go to
Speaker 2: Vegas for work in the past, and you know, I
Speaker 2: don't really have whatever thing it is that makes gambling
Speaker 2: scratch an itch, and I'm pretty risk averse. So as
Speaker 2: soon as i get any sort of small amount of money,
Speaker 2: I'm immediately thinking, fuck, I got to get out of
Speaker 2: town before the find right, And I don't I don't
Speaker 2: understand that mentality, but some part of me, on a
Speaker 2: primal level gets five dollars at a blackjack table and
Speaker 2: then thinks, you know, the law or the mob is
Speaker 2: coming for me.
Speaker 1: All right?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree. As soon as I've won one time,
Speaker 3: one amount of gambling, I'm like, where is the little
Speaker 3: desk with the person in a vest I am going
Speaker 3: to give them this ticket and fly to a different
Speaker 3: country now with my ill gotten games.
Speaker 1: But I yeah, And.
Speaker 3: Gambling's fine if you enjoy it and can handle it.
Speaker 3: And then, like every sports league is so heavily pushing
Speaker 3: it that. I think it's just making it complicated to
Speaker 3: prevent players from gambling on their own games, which is
Speaker 3: their big concern, like that there's not a big scandal
Speaker 3: of that yet and it feels like it's on the way.
Speaker 3: Like in soccer, there was a big issue with a
Speaker 3: player named Ivan Tony who doesn't seem to have bet
Speaker 3: on his own games, but he's this amazing player for
Speaker 3: Brentford in England in the Premier League. And then every
Speaker 3: story about ivan Tony gambling had a picture of ivan
Speaker 3: Toni on the field in a shirt with a giant
Speaker 3: sports betting company sponsorship on the front of it. Yeah,
Speaker 3: like I feel like he should be allowed to gamble
Speaker 3: if he wears a gambling t shirt at his job.
Speaker 3: By they should be allowed. I think they should be
Speaker 3: allowed to gamble on themselves, and as long as we know,
Speaker 3: like how much money they have on themselves, like that
Speaker 3: would make it more entertaining it.
Speaker 1: But also like ruinous. Yeah, I'm sure it'd be terrible
Speaker 1: for people. There's a current sports gambling story. I'm not
Speaker 1: even gonna say which person it is because I don't
Speaker 1: have confirmation on some of these details, but it is
Speaker 1: like in the news a little bit past couple of
Speaker 1: weeks that this person is suspected of gambling on the
Speaker 1: sports that they play, and like a friend of mine,
Speaker 1: friend of a friend like knows people, and was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think like he supposedly lost millions of dollars betting
Speaker 1: on Russian ping pong during the pandemic, and I was, yeah,
Speaker 1: because that was the only thing that was like playing
Speaker 1: during the pandemic. Oh there was that. There was Madden
Speaker 1: sims like Madden simulations, and so yeah, like just look
Speaker 1: look up. There's a whole Reddit thread from during the
Speaker 1: pandemic about get like how to gamble on Russian ping pong,
Speaker 1: and it's just like you know, degenerated people with like
Speaker 1: gambling problems being like oh yeah, man, the action's like
Speaker 1: really good and like this is this is the only thing.
Speaker 1: It's the only game in town essentially. Yeah, so yeah,
Speaker 1: I agree, Like I also, I don't know, it's such
Speaker 1: a dumb, weird world like professional sports already that like
Speaker 1: I just like, how making adding more hypocrisy to the
Speaker 1: world of professional sports, Like, I mean, yeah, sure.
Speaker 2: I find I know we talked about this in the
Speaker 2: previous Daily site guys, but I am kind of turning
Speaker 2: a corner then, just based on the conversation we're having
Speaker 2: where you know, yeah, it'll be ruinous, but let the
Speaker 2: maybe let him play uh bet the bet on themselves,
Speaker 2: just to see what happens, you know, shake it up.
Speaker 2: We're already far past the line of ridiculousness. So what's
Speaker 2: one more?
Speaker 1: Yeah, this guy is usually their best free throw shooter. However,
Speaker 1: he has five million dollars on this game, so and
Speaker 1: his knees are visibly shaking. Yeah, but part of his
Speaker 1: hair has fallen off in the fourth quarter, So.
Speaker 2: I mean there's this. Uh. I think I predicted this
Speaker 2: a while back. It was like, eventually, as society evolves,
Speaker 2: the Olympics are going to change, right, We'll have like
Speaker 2: cybernetic augmentation. Some some group will say, yeah, you know,
Speaker 2: let him do all the drugs, just have him sign
Speaker 2: a waiver.
Speaker 1: I mean Peter Tiel is that group. He's I think
Speaker 1: investing in Olympics where you're allowed to do the performance
Speaker 1: enhancing drugs.
Speaker 2: That's uh, you know, I'm not gonna lie. I am
Speaker 2: gonna watch it. No, me too.
Speaker 1: It's a good idea, like just because it came for
Speaker 1: Peter TiAl. It doesn't mean it's not going to be
Speaker 1: super fucking entertaining unfortunately, Like yeah, and if they're able
Speaker 1: to gamble on it too, like.
Speaker 2: Oh wow, yeah, are they gonna let the doctors gamble
Speaker 2: too other.
Speaker 1: Then yeah, then you might run into some problems. They
Speaker 1: should go all the way and let the guys smoke
Speaker 1: during the stuff if they're gonna do all that, like
Speaker 1: everybody's just blazing a sick during the batch, you know.
Speaker 1: I mean, there's no way that Jokic doesn't like, you know,
Speaker 1: the best player in the NBA for non NBA fans
Speaker 1: is a seven foot tall guy from Eastern Europe. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: And there's just by the looks of him, there's no
Speaker 1: way that he's not having like a cup of black
Speaker 1: coffee and a cigarette at halftime every once in a
Speaker 1: while while like you just he just has that look
Speaker 1: about him.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like the exact diet and habits of an English
Speaker 3: darts player that he's the best player. Yeah, like that
Speaker 3: one weird beer mug that they have. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: All right, Well, we don't really have time to talk
Speaker 1: about the economy. This is actually I don't have a
Speaker 1: story about the economy. Guys, this is just a fake
Speaker 1: gambit where I'm going to pretend like I'm going to
Speaker 1: talk about the economy and then it never actually happens. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I have like four pages of just disorganized notes on
Speaker 1: the economy that doesn't really make sense. So you're not
Speaker 1: missing out one one day, we will get to the story, folks.
Speaker 1: In the meantime, let's talk about seven eleven's hot Dog
Speaker 1: Seltzer and Easter the war on Easter. So briefly, seven
Speaker 1: eleven just announced a new line of flavored sparkling waters,
Speaker 1: including apple Share, lemon lime, uh huh, and hot Dog
Speaker 1: Big Bite. Hot Dog sparkling Water. According to the press
Speaker 1: release of Seltzer, recreates the taste of biting into the
Speaker 1: hot dog in beverage form, including the ketchup and mustard.
Speaker 1: We think this is a bit, okay, The company says
Speaker 1: it's a more info will be released on April one,
Speaker 1: so it's not even like really a good bit. Yeah yeah.
Speaker 2: Is it like a limp biscuit partnership or something?
Speaker 1: That's right? Okay, Yeah, that is a real thing. A
Speaker 1: couple of years ago, a brewery marketed a hard seltzer
Speaker 1: specifically made with leftover water from fifty two pounds of
Speaker 1: boiled frankfurters. So the hot dog water is an ingredient
Speaker 1: that has been used in the past too. I don't
Speaker 1: know how the Awesome Sauce hard Seltzer bun length did
Speaker 1: when they released it, but that was the name of
Speaker 1: that product.
Speaker 2: Why is it bun length?
Speaker 1: I think because the can is a tall boy and
Speaker 1: the length of a foot long hot dog bun length.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, so they've thought through the world building here.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I like I like a product name where they know
Speaker 3: it's a gag, so they just make the name too
Speaker 3: long as a way of expressing that. What are more
Speaker 3: hot dog related words?
Speaker 1: Fun? Length? Oh yeah, yeah, wattered? Okay, you get it.
Speaker 2: I will say I will say that I could legitimately,
Speaker 2: maybe not an American seven eleven's, but like in Japan
Speaker 2: where they're everywhere and they're very different, I could see
Speaker 2: something like this being a thing. I just don't know
Speaker 2: if it would be temporary. I mean, what if we
Speaker 2: have to ask ourselves the other part, Jack Alex. What
Speaker 2: if this starts as a bit but it finds an
Speaker 2: audience and it actually great. What if it tastes amazing
Speaker 2: and now we're the jerks about it. I don't think
Speaker 2: that's gonna happen.
Speaker 1: But I've not come down one way or another on this.
Speaker 1: By the way, I'm just okay think it is a
Speaker 1: joke based on like some of the copy in the
Speaker 1: press release. Gone are the days of alternating bites of
Speaker 1: a hot dog with SIPs of a beverage. Now those
Speaker 1: on the go can swap the bun for bubbles. Like
Speaker 1: that's okay, bad, that's bad comedy writing, Like that's like
Speaker 1: in the Babylon b M.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a red flag though, right April First, come on.
Speaker 1: Yeah, April First, come on. Fuck you guys.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's definitely fake, but I do Ben, you're making
Speaker 3: me realize that I'm so respectful of snacks from certain
Speaker 3: other countries, such as Japan. Like if this had been
Speaker 3: framed to me as it's a new snack from Japan,
Speaker 3: I would be like, that's probably so good, Like it's
Speaker 3: they're probably so far ahead, Like there are some countries
Speaker 3: I trust with a snack, and that's one of them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right. All right, Uh, let's take a quick
Speaker 1: break and we are going to come back and we
Speaker 1: are going to talk talk about you know, the one
Speaker 1: story that we can't skip, the war on Easter. There's
Speaker 1: a war going on outside. No man is safe from
Speaker 1: to quote mob deep. So we'll take a quick break.
Speaker 1: We'll be right back. And we're back, And you guys
Speaker 1: might notice I keep leaving the screen and come back
Speaker 1: because I'm looking at the nuts that I left out
Speaker 1: for the crows. Be I just walked over there, Ben.
Speaker 1: The crows are crowded around the nuts watching the squirrel
Speaker 1: eat the fucking nuts. Oh man, the birl is just
Speaker 1: up there eating the nuts, like making eye contact with
Speaker 1: all of them.
Speaker 2: Oh wow, Yeah, geez, the squirrel is so fat. Yeah,
Speaker 2: eventually he is going to be the architect of his
Speaker 2: own destruction.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because they're smart, Like they're going to figure something out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they'll know.
Speaker 1: They'll just like start spreading rumors in the squirrel community
Speaker 1: about this squirrel, Like the crows are too smart to
Speaker 1: be outwitted by a fat squirrel.
Speaker 2: But we'll see you bad. I I appreciate so much
Speaker 2: that we're all going on this journey vicariously with you.
Speaker 1: It's a weird journey.
Speaker 2: I I have massive respect that you're treating this with
Speaker 2: the importance. It deserves because I have seen you like
Speaker 2: leaving a couple of times and I didn't know what
Speaker 2: was I didn't know what was going on. But uh man,
Speaker 2: they're gonna, they're gonna recognize you. Power power to the crows.
Speaker 1: Yes, I mean mainly I just want them to stop
Speaker 1: tearing tearing our backyard up, and they have stopped doing that,
Speaker 1: so I think they at some level recognize that my
Speaker 1: intentions are in the right place, and I think we're
Speaker 1: both on the same side. And the war on the squirrel,
Speaker 1: we're just like, but I'm not gonna like hurt the squirrel,
Speaker 1: but I am gonna every time it eats the nuts,
Speaker 1: run over and go ye and then it runs away
Speaker 1: for like approximately five seconds. All right, Well that's the
Speaker 1: war in my backyard. That's happening, But the bigger war happened.
Speaker 1: It's happening in the UK. Make Harry Kane massive. I
Speaker 1: do have to just say that every time I mentioned
Speaker 1: the UK. So the War on Easter spara thought, won't
Speaker 1: you for British Christians who love candy, because they are
Speaker 1: currently enduring a war on Easter? So there's got to
Speaker 1: be some level of panic injected into every holiday season,
Speaker 1: we've noticed and paying attention to the news. One way
Speaker 1: they can do that, of course, is war on holiday,
Speaker 1: War on Christmas. Once they started getting made fun of
Speaker 1: for talking about the War on Christmas and people pointed
Speaker 1: out that that wasn't real thing, they went with, we're
Speaker 1: actually gonna run out of Christmas trees this year, and
Speaker 1: canes are there's a terrifying candy cane shortage that like
Speaker 1: almost like invariably when you look into it is completely
Speaker 1: made up. It's like, well, four years ago somebody who
Speaker 1: does like who works in peppermint extract said that he
Speaker 1: thought it was a possibility that this year might have
Speaker 1: a shortage of candy canes. But like they just they're
Speaker 1: desperate for a controversy around a holiday.
Speaker 2: Do you how much of that do you think is
Speaker 2: taken in good faith by like audience, Because I've always assumed,
Speaker 2: especially of late, that most of the people propagating those
Speaker 2: kind of cultural war stories, I've always kind of assumed
Speaker 2: they were cynically searching for that controversy or manufacturing it
Speaker 2: if they couldn't find it. But do you think a
Speaker 2: lot of people, you know, hear this maybe out of
Speaker 2: Fox News or something of that ilk and then immediately
Speaker 2: panic and like, oh fuck, we got to go get
Speaker 2: the tree now, or we have to go get these
Speaker 2: candy canes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, or probably they just go God fucking Biden, you know,
Speaker 1: under their breath, and it just like adds to the
Speaker 1: tension that they carry around in their shoulders, like makes
Speaker 1: the heart attack that's coming like seven days sooner than
Speaker 1: it was previously scheduled or something. I don't, I don't know,
Speaker 1: you know, it's just a general way to like ramp
Speaker 1: up the kinetic energy that's out there, you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Conservatism is just riffing most of the time,
Speaker 3: you know. And so like it's just on the calendar.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're like flipping through and they're like, oh, right,
Speaker 2: Arbor day this time. No, that's a little too green maybe, yeah,
Speaker 2: anything religious? And Jack from in this story I learned
Speaker 2: a phrase I had never heard before, gesture eggs.
Speaker 1: Yes. So here's where I'm going to be both sides
Speaker 1: on this one. Okay, this isn't made up controversy that
Speaker 1: like it's one store in Lincolnshire, and as we know Lincolnshire,
Speaker 1: I mean, we can't be who knows what goes on
Speaker 1: lincoln Shark, right, yeah, it's it's a single cabaret outlet
Speaker 1: store that made headlines for selling gesture eggs. Easter eggs
Speaker 1: rebranded for people who you know clearly hate Jesus with
Speaker 1: a fiery passion. I will say gesture eggs sucks that
Speaker 1: name when that rebranding is fucking terrible, Like it's the
Speaker 1: it's vague to the point of meaninglessness.
Speaker 2: It does.
Speaker 1: It almost feels like the people who want this to
Speaker 1: be a controversy came up with the name.
Speaker 2: It was like chat GPT wrote it right, But like
Speaker 2: gesture eggs, like is like what why would that be?
Speaker 1: Like you to kindness eggs or you know, like what
Speaker 1: you know spring a like any of these things. Gesture
Speaker 1: eggs is just like such a vague word that makes
Speaker 1: it seem like you really are trying not to say
Speaker 1: anything because you're like so afraid of saying anything and
Speaker 1: like offending anyone. It's just I don't know, unless there's
Speaker 1: like a second meaning behind it.
Speaker 2: It's just is there a field that we're not getting
Speaker 2: or something like? Because there are so many gestures.
Speaker 1: Used to gesture, do those sound the same in my
Speaker 1: flawless British accent? I don't know.
Speaker 2: I think you're secretly British. I'm figuring this out also
Speaker 2: just to be clear.
Speaker 1: Of Europeans of invasion.
Speaker 2: This is an American intervention on you, Alex. Yeah, we
Speaker 2: need you to be more European. So I want to
Speaker 2: be clear though. When I said linkage through is like
Speaker 2: the Chinatown of the United Kingdom, I'm referring to the
Speaker 2: film China. Yeah, I just want to get for that one.
Speaker 2: But also right.
Speaker 1: Forget it, airy Kane, it's Lincolnshire exact, but pleasure You're
Speaker 1: able to be a little bit racist in France, right,
Speaker 1: So like I get like.
Speaker 2: One point three on a one text there. Sure let's
Speaker 2: just take shots at the nation of France. Yes, absolutely,
Speaker 2: So why not just chocolate egg? Why it just candy?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Because I think maybe they are geniuses and knew
Speaker 1: that this was going to happen, you know, Like it
Speaker 1: feels like it's also a single. Like all they have
Speaker 1: is like a label on a cooler that is holding
Speaker 1: these things and it just says gesture eggs. So you know,
Speaker 1: the people who write the signs at grocery stores are
Speaker 1: not always like the greatest wordsmith's working in the particular
Speaker 1: language that you're talking about.
Speaker 2: I mean, not everyone. I could go to Harvard, right,
Speaker 2: But there's there's also I think a fair point we
Speaker 2: should make without being both sides you. I think there's
Speaker 2: some important context, you guys, which is traditionally the United
Speaker 2: Kingdom is terrible at naming food.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: We got barley water, we got you know, spotted dick.
Speaker 2: That makes no sense.
Speaker 1: And then I'm a fan of both of those. But
Speaker 1: go on, Blea tells you exactly what it is. Spotted
Speaker 1: dick doesn't tell you what it is, but intriguingly what
Speaker 1: it is.
Speaker 2: Well, like you know, in the pictures that you look
Speaker 2: at about this gesture egg story, notice that directly to
Speaker 2: the right of the Gester eggs gesture eggs, there's another
Speaker 2: product called dairy milk.
Speaker 1: Yeah, cob Da milk chocolate, right, but dairy milk.
Speaker 2: I don't know, Am I being too hard on him?
Speaker 2: That's somewhat repetitive, right, Yeah.
Speaker 1: It's like calling a chocolate chocolate. Yeah, it's a little
Speaker 1: bit weird. Yeah. So there there's also this isn't You
Speaker 1: may notice in these headlines that they're saying that this
Speaker 1: is Cadbury is the latest to erase Easter. Well, that's
Speaker 1: because An English supermarket chain, also sparked a backlash for
Speaker 1: selling hot cross buns with check marks instead of crosses
Speaker 1: called Pope, Call the Young Pope, Call, get the young
Speaker 1: Pope on the line. He just starts singing hot cross bonds,
Speaker 1: hot craft like he's playing it on a recorder. Is
Speaker 1: my only experience with hot cross bunds, Like I've never
Speaker 1: really had them at all, Like they're not really a
Speaker 1: thing over here unless I've just been closed off. Are
Speaker 1: you guys familiar? Have you had hot cross buns?
Speaker 3: I learned it's a food like one year ago, and
Speaker 3: not just.
Speaker 1: A song on the recorder. Yeah, I tried.
Speaker 2: I tried it one time, but never never in the
Speaker 2: US because I was curious. And you know, it's not
Speaker 2: like it's not one of those traditional or regional foods
Speaker 2: that feels oddly offensive or strange. You know, it's not
Speaker 2: like storm strong or something. It's a baked good. It's
Speaker 2: pretty decent. It's just like a sweet roll, right yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 2: And it's a nostalgia thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And also they were offering these in addition to
Speaker 1: they were not replacing hot cross buns. They were just
Speaker 1: creating a separate product with a check mark. In case,
Speaker 1: for whatever weird reason, again, probably you hate Jesus. You
Speaker 1: wanted a delicious pastry that doesn't remind you of the brutal,
Speaker 1: days long torture of Christians Messiah. Okay, for some reason,
Speaker 1: you're weird and you don't want that.
Speaker 2: That's part of the flavor, though, right, Like the suffering
Speaker 2: is part of the flavor, the same way that the
Speaker 2: effervescence is part of Coca cola.
Speaker 1: That's where the heat comes from. Yeah, that's yes. So
Speaker 1: this is not the first time though Cabret's gotten into trouble.
Speaker 1: They there was a promotion back in twenty seventeen where
Speaker 1: they sponsored an egg hunt with the National Trust and
Speaker 1: dropped the word Easter just called it the Great British
Speaker 1: Egg Hunt in order to include people of all faiths,
Speaker 1: and then Prime Minister Theresa May said that is tantamount
Speaker 1: to spitting on the grave of John Cadbury, whoa cut
Speaker 1: to the Cadbury Company quietly withdrawing their press release for
Speaker 1: the Great John Cadbury Gravespit scheduled for Saint Crispin's I
Speaker 1: like the whoops. I like that.
Speaker 3: John Cadburry is the name I would make up if
Speaker 3: you forced me to say, who found Cadbury?
Speaker 1: That's cool?
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, uh, okay, well that's also I mean this
Speaker 2: is kind of you know, signifying nothing, right, sound and
Speaker 2: fury signify nothing. It does as you point out, it feels,
Speaker 2: it feels severely manufactured. And if that is kind of
Speaker 2: the open secret that people are increasingly acknowledging, then why
Speaker 2: not lean into it. Let's get weirder and more specific,
Speaker 2: because they're already running out of things to uh hang
Speaker 2: on the hook of culture war, you know, like how
Speaker 2: many other holiday things are left on the list that
Speaker 2: can be part of the next year's culture war Christmas ornaments?
Speaker 1: I don't know, Yeah, no, I mean they probably want
Speaker 1: to call them spirit trees instead of Christmas trees, you know.
Speaker 1: And that's where I draw the line mad at principle. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I love that listing idea too, because Easter is famous.
Speaker 3: But after Christmas and Easter, there's a real cliff drop
Speaker 3: off in terms of how familiar people are with Christian
Speaker 3: various other holidays. The candy like, they're going to have
Speaker 3: a hard time getting us mad about Pentecost or you know,
Speaker 3: it's going to be tough.
Speaker 2: If I don't know, I don't know. I'm kind of
Speaker 2: bullish on this now because people if if this is,
Speaker 2: if these stories are successful due to a lack of
Speaker 2: information on the audience's part, then not knowing the thing
Speaker 2: that is being quote unquote attacked, it's not going to
Speaker 2: stop them from getting fired up, getting that kinetic energy
Speaker 2: you were talking about, Jack, because they're like this just
Speaker 2: in the war on the Feast of Saint Michaelmas. Then
Speaker 2: they'll just be like, fuck Joe Biden, this guy's.
Speaker 1: Crazy fuckinvite And I mean to like just thinking from
Speaker 1: their perspective, Halloween used to be like Christmas Eve for
Speaker 1: All Saints Day and they totally lost that one. So
Speaker 1: maybe this is like just them being like seeing what's
Speaker 1: to come, which, to be fair, all these like So
Speaker 1: there's this quote from a Christian leader who said, it
Speaker 1: seems very odd that someone would want to try and
Speaker 1: separate Easter from eggs. Once you do that, you lose
Speaker 1: the meaning of the eggs. What you lose, which I like,
Speaker 1: eggs have so many meanings, but like none of these
Speaker 1: are pagan traditions that you just adopted as part of
Speaker 1: your holiday to make your holiday like slightly more fun, right,
Speaker 1: Like the.
Speaker 3: What are you talking about the Bible has the Book
Speaker 3: of Eggs, the Gospel of.
Speaker 1: Eggs, even knows what eggs means, now if without the
Speaker 1: Christian context. So our writer Jay mcnabs shout out to him,
Speaker 1: you know, looked it up and said, apparently Easter eggs
Speaker 1: originated with Anglo Saxon festivals in the spring to celebrate
Speaker 1: the pagan goddess Ao Stray, who may be the namesake
Speaker 1: of Easter. I think we can close the book on
Speaker 1: that one. It seems like it's pretty probably the person
Speaker 1: whose name is the same name. It's probably the namesake
Speaker 1: of Easter. But like they're like, no, no, uh no,
Speaker 1: it's you're talking about Jesus. It's Jester.
Speaker 2: It's a.
Speaker 1: It's a. It came from the Jesus.
Speaker 2: Maybe we're mispronouncing gesture eggs. Yes, maybe it's exactly geesture
Speaker 2: eggs Jesus. They were trying to make it more Jesus.
Speaker 2: But yeah, back then, eggs were buried and eaten during
Speaker 2: the festival, which is gross, but believed to be a
Speaker 2: symbol of fertility and the rebirth of nature after the
Speaker 2: dead of winter.
Speaker 1: So I don't know. Also, if you if you're wondering
Speaker 1: about hot cross buns. They also started as buns marked
Speaker 1: with crosses in honor of Aostra, this like goddess of fertility,
Speaker 1: and there were similar practices among the Druids, Phoenicians, Greeks,
Speaker 1: and Romans in honor of Diana, the goddess of the
Speaker 1: hunt and the moon, and the crosses actually had nothing
Speaker 1: to do with the crucifixion, but rather represented the four
Speaker 1: quarters of the moon. Oh I didn't I didn't know
Speaker 1: the moon was structured like an NBA basketball game. I
Speaker 1: didn't know it had four quarters. Yeah.
Speaker 3: At half moon, a guy in a gorilla suit dunks
Speaker 3: of basketball off at trampline the.
Speaker 2: Way Jesus would have wanted.
Speaker 1: There's so much money riding on this cycle of the moon. Though.
Speaker 1: If this one doesn't come through, I bet that it
Speaker 1: wasn't going to be full this time around. Oh man,
Speaker 1: this really fucked me.
Speaker 2: This is brought to you by moonbets dot Com. Please
Speaker 2: put it put in the code. Oh god, we had
Speaker 2: me into the coat. Hot cross. Put in the cross,
Speaker 2: hot cross.
Speaker 1: Yeah that's right. But anyways, uh, just all food for
Speaker 1: thought and annoying things to bring up at Easter as
Speaker 1: you're celebrating Easter in some very severe Christian tradition or
Speaker 1: not if you're just doing an Easter egg hunt. Do
Speaker 1: you guys do anything for Easter? Is that? Ah?
Speaker 3: I'm mostly a lapsed Catholic. My mom's Presbyterian, so I
Speaker 3: was in that church too, but we did a lot
Speaker 3: for it as kids, and I have a really fond
Speaker 3: feeling about Easter. And I also knew people in our
Speaker 3: church who would speak negatively about people they called creasters,
Speaker 3: which is people who only come on Christmas and Easter
Speaker 3: and otherwise don't show. But I really like it as
Speaker 3: a tent pole, and I still find I forget when
Speaker 3: it's going to happen every year because it moves.
Speaker 1: And so yeah, that is. It's been nice. I've been
Speaker 1: really on.
Speaker 3: Top of it this year, and it feels good and nice.
Speaker 3: I got like one chocolate buddy in the checkout line
Speaker 3: at the store, and I'll probably watch Arsenal play Manchester
Speaker 3: City on Sunday. I don't know what else I'm going
Speaker 3: to do.
Speaker 1: I've had a couple peanut butter chocolate eggs and this
Speaker 1: year's batch is good. I just had to check on them,
Speaker 1: and it's a good batch of peanut butter.
Speaker 2: It's a good year for them.
Speaker 1: It's a good year. It's a vintage stock.
Speaker 2: I like that. And we're all we're in the candy
Speaker 2: I think because we have that nostalgia again, right, like
Speaker 2: you get the chocolate Buddy maybe with the candy eyes.
Speaker 2: There are some things that are only sold around that time,
Speaker 2: like the chocolate peanut butter eggs. So I think that's fun.
Speaker 2: I am not the most clever person to be completely candid.
Speaker 2: So holidays like Easter have always baffled me because I
Speaker 2: don't know when they're coming. You know, there's like something
Speaker 2: in the wind. You know. I know Easter is coming
Speaker 2: when I see displays at grocery stores. Yeah, that's that's about.
Speaker 2: That's that's always like my oh shit moment. And then
Speaker 2: that's when I know I'm going to go google what
Speaker 2: day it is, and then I'm going to text religious
Speaker 2: members of my family so they think I'm still on
Speaker 2: top of it, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there you go. Hey, guys, like do it at
Speaker 1: four in the morning. You're still up, but you're just
Speaker 1: making it seem like you're really observant. Hey just want
Speaker 1: to be the first one to say, have Easter.
Speaker 2: Yeah, try not to take it too far. One time
Speaker 2: I put go team with an exclamation point, and yeah,
Speaker 2: that didn't work. I think I should have done a
Speaker 2: passage from a religious text.
Speaker 1: Well, guys, I think we have a good title for
Speaker 1: the episode, Chocolate War on Easter and the hot dog
Speaker 1: flavored water. Oh on cow, there we go amazing. Well,
Speaker 1: Alex Schmidt, what a pleasure having you as always? Where
Speaker 1: can people find you? Follow you all that good stuff.
Speaker 3: It's such a treat to be here and me and
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Speaker 1: Yeah, go go help them out. It's a it's a
Speaker 1: great show. They deserve your donation. Thank you, Alex. Is
Speaker 1: there a work of media that you've been enjoying? Yeah?
Speaker 3: I saw a really good band recently and the game
Speaker 3: of the band. Verbally it's Meadows. It's with two m's
Speaker 3: on the front, som Meadows, but it's it's a two persons.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like they just have some yummy eddos. As I say,
Speaker 1: it feels very easter and Candy, doesn't it like the
Speaker 1: bunny is hopping around? Yeah, yeah, anyway, totally.
Speaker 3: But they Yeah, it's a wonderful singer and a wonderful
Speaker 3: multi instrumentalist, in particular the trumpet and also something called
Speaker 3: the electric valve instrument that's essentially a robotic trumpet. But yeah,
Speaker 3: they make amazing music. And the singer has been with
Speaker 3: the band Dirty Projectors. The the instrumentalist has done session
Speaker 3: work for like Lord and Beyonce and then all these people.
Speaker 3: So check them out memetos really get amazed. Ben Bowland,
Speaker 3: thank you so much for hopping in and joining us today.
Speaker 3: Where can people find you?
Speaker 1: Follow you? And is their working media you've been enjoying?
Speaker 2: Uh? Yes, yeah, I am calling myself on Instagram and
Speaker 2: a burst of creativity at Ben Bowlin b O W
Speaker 2: L I N crazy. Yeah, i know, I'm real, I'm real, Shyamalan.
Speaker 2: I'm going to actually take that. Uh, the next time
Speaker 2: I make some silly music, I'm gonna take a sample
Speaker 2: of you said you're crazy for this one.
Speaker 1: It's gonna monotonously Yeah, here use this one. Crazy for
Speaker 1: this one?
Speaker 3: Ben? Yeah, yeah, Well, just like Maybach music.
Speaker 2: Media that I've been really enjoying. You know, as we know,
Speaker 2: young Pope changed the game, means haven't been the same
Speaker 2: ever since. But I will say one thing that we
Speaker 2: were talking about off air that I had just got
Speaker 2: super into now that trailer for that Seinfeld movie.
Speaker 1: I yeah, we talked about it on yesterday's trending episode.
Speaker 1: It is such a weird movie. It is. It looks
Speaker 1: like it looks like a combination of like Pleasantville and
Speaker 1: the Zucker Brothers like Airplane style movie and a Seinfeld bit.
Speaker 1: Like it's so strange. I don't like. I'm really I
Speaker 1: don't think it's gonna be good, but I will not
Speaker 1: be able to stop myself from watching it. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Sure, well we got the sunk cost fallacy with Netflix, right,
Speaker 2: we already have Netflix.
Speaker 1: I already fucking mind as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean also three body problem for anybody's sci
Speaker 2: fi fan, that's actually really impressive to me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, did you read the book. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I read the book. I haven't started the show yet.
Speaker 1: How are you happy with how the show's kind of
Speaker 1: delivering so far?
Speaker 2: Yeah, And an adaptation, you know, necessarily is going to
Speaker 2: differ from the source material and they yeah, you know,
Speaker 2: it's it's tough because it's hard sci fi, so like, yeah,
Speaker 2: with foundation. You know, Asimov often writes, often writes about ideas,
Speaker 2: and he sticks characters in there because he realizes you
Speaker 2: have to have characters. Yeah, and so they're there as Yeah,
Speaker 2: but but yeah, yeah, I'd love to hear other thoughts
Speaker 2: on him, because I was a fan of those books,
Speaker 2: and those books have actually been out for a.
Speaker 1: While, right, yeah, yeah, the first I only read the
Speaker 1: first two. I couldn't make it through the third one
Speaker 1: because it's big and uh yeah again yeah, they keep referring.
Speaker 1: They'll like cut back to a character and be like,
Speaker 1: and I don't know this fucking guy, I forget what
Speaker 1: was his name? Is how they introduce a character, Yes,
Speaker 1: what's his name? The guy who was doing this thing
Speaker 1: over in this part of the world. Anyways, which of
Speaker 1: the bodies does he It is about three bodies, it's
Speaker 1: about a threesome.
Speaker 2: It's very blow by blow in depth.
Speaker 1: That's why just yea horny. That's what we mean by
Speaker 1: hard sci fi. You can find me on Twitter at
Speaker 1: Jack Underscore O'Brien. Some stuff I've been enjoying. The Gentleman
Speaker 1: is a show. Is one of these streaming shows that
Speaker 1: it's Yeah, so Guy Ritchie. I haven't enjoyed his films
Speaker 1: for some time. I haven't really like gone out of
Speaker 1: my way to watch them, but the ones I saw,
Speaker 1: I was like, this is not really I don't know
Speaker 1: my favorite. And then when I watch a streaming show,
Speaker 1: I'm usually like this should have been a movie, but
Speaker 1: for some reason, like this is the best thing, like
Speaker 1: Guy Ritchie has, like this is like his old fun movies. Again,
Speaker 1: for it's like it's just I've only watched the first episode.
Speaker 1: I am just preparing myself for on a streaming corner,
Speaker 1: which we're gonna be having some point next week, so
Speaker 1: be on the lookout for that in one of the
Speaker 1: trending episodes next week. I believe it'll be Tuesday, But yeah,
Speaker 1: The Gentleman is a blast. I recommend it. And then
Speaker 1: I also was enjoying this tweet from ll Gabba Ghoul
Speaker 1: Jay who tweeted I wish there was no I in
Speaker 1: this teams meeting, which I thought was a funny thing
Speaker 1: that I gonna use on one of our iHeart Teams
Speaker 1: meetings at some point. Ben, what do you think you think.
Speaker 2: You're crazy for this one?
Speaker 1: John? Hey? There it is all right. Well. You can
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Speaker 1: information that we talked about in today's episode, as well
Speaker 1: as a song that we think you might enjoy. A
Speaker 1: super producer Justin Connor, I do like to ask you
Speaker 1: every once in a while, is there a song you'd
Speaker 1: recommend to people? We could link off two in the footnotes?
Speaker 4: Uh yeah. This is from a favorite group of the
Speaker 4: show by the name of Hiatus Coyote. They have a
Speaker 4: new track that just dropped this week and they're oh yeah,
Speaker 4: they're going on a summer tour across North America soon,
Speaker 4: I believe so. I highly suggest seeing them live if
Speaker 4: you get the chance. The person I went with last
Speaker 4: time I saw them cry genuine tears of joy, not kidding,
Speaker 4: and it was fantastic, So yeah, I highly suggested. But
Speaker 4: this is a track called make Friends. The vocal performance
Speaker 4: from Napalm Is is soulful and satisfying to listen to.
Speaker 4: As always, the baseline is phenomenal and it's you know,
Speaker 4: just another day. You had another banger from Hiatus Coyote
Speaker 4: called make Friends and you can find that song in the.
Speaker 1: Footnotes footnotes that is I believe Miles's favorite band, So yeah,
Speaker 1: a new song from them is big news. If you
Speaker 1: enjoy the song that Miles normally recommends, go check it out.
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Speaker 1: That is gonna do it for us this week. We
Speaker 1: are back on Monday to tell you what was trending
Speaker 1: over the weekend. There will be a weekly Zeitgeist clip
Speaker 1: reel of some of the best moments from this week
Speaker 1: over the weekend. But yeah, have a great weekend, have
Speaker 1: a great Easter, and keep the Cross in Easter, keep
Speaker 1: the te cross shaped in Easter, not check mark shaped okay,
Speaker 1: and yeah, have a great Easter everybody. Well, we'll see
Speaker 1: you on Monday. Good Monday. Is that is Monday after
Speaker 1: Easter A thing.
Speaker 2: I think they call it mid Monday mid.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this Monday is mid got a candy hangover? All right,
Speaker 1: have a great weekend. Bye,