WEBVTT - Ep. 77: Burt Reynolds On Ice 0:00:05.880 --> 0:00:08.920 Uncle Pete just laid the fish next to her on 0:00:08.960 --> 0:00:11.600 a flat surface and put a yard stick between them. 0:00:11.720 --> 0:00:14.560 I just feel like bass guys and while guys butt heads, 0:00:14.560 --> 0:00:19.160 what activity were most people doing when an unprovoked attack occurred? 0:00:19.400 --> 0:00:24.440 A windsurfing dude looks like Burt Reynolds, trout and baby dealers. 0:00:28.640 --> 0:00:31.320 Good morning to generate anglers, and welcome to Bent, the 0:00:31.360 --> 0:00:34.200 fishing podcast that always sends a friend to check ice 0:00:34.240 --> 0:00:37.440 thickness before getting out of the heated trout. I'm Joe 0:00:37.440 --> 0:00:40.000 Surmelli and I made and set back and yeah, man, 0:00:40.040 --> 0:00:45.839 that is it two or early to start with a Yeah? Man, no, 0:00:46.080 --> 0:00:48.879 it's never too early to start with that is what 0:00:48.960 --> 0:00:51.080 you would do. Man, it is, it is, and I 0:00:51.159 --> 0:00:53.560 have I have. I feel like now that I brought 0:00:53.560 --> 0:00:55.440 it up, shout out to my old buddy Frank Heater, 0:00:55.720 --> 0:01:00.240 who is likely not listening. I'm almost certain he's not. Um. Yeah, 0:01:00.400 --> 0:01:02.160 Like years ago, we ventured out to a local pond 0:01:02.200 --> 0:01:05.319 that nobody had been fishing and stood there and debated 0:01:05.360 --> 0:01:07.600 who was going to go check, and eventually we landed 0:01:07.600 --> 0:01:09.880 on him. There might have been money involved, and he 0:01:10.000 --> 0:01:12.559 walked all the way out to the Middle Sands issue 0:01:12.959 --> 0:01:15.240 made like two full turns of the auger and it 0:01:15.360 --> 0:01:18.640 just punched. And he just looks up with concern and 0:01:18.720 --> 0:01:22.479 goes about an inch and a half as the ice 0:01:22.560 --> 0:01:26.080 spider cracked in every direction and I just said, well, 0:01:26.280 --> 0:01:28.520 you should probably come back, man, And he didn't survive, 0:01:28.560 --> 0:01:30.320 and then we knew we couldn't ice fish there that day, 0:01:30.319 --> 0:01:32.559 so that worked out, you know. Yeah. I mean, unless 0:01:32.560 --> 0:01:34.440 you're like when we're talking about ice fishing on the 0:01:34.480 --> 0:01:37.720 East coast, unless you're up pretty like northerly, it's kind 0:01:37.760 --> 0:01:40.800 of a ice fishing tends to be. Uh, maybe we'll 0:01:40.840 --> 0:01:43.880 get a couple of weeks of really good ice down 0:01:43.920 --> 0:01:46.479 where you are. I mean, it's it's not even that, 0:01:46.560 --> 0:01:51.559 it's just no, it's certainly not a guarantee directly where 0:01:51.600 --> 0:01:54.000 I live. And remember I leave in like a weird zone. Um, 0:01:54.000 --> 0:01:57.960 we haven't really had good ice right here in a 0:01:57.960 --> 0:01:59.920 few years now. And if you're ever watching the Weather 0:02:00.120 --> 0:02:03.000 Channel and hear them say, because you lived here, you 0:02:03.080 --> 0:02:05.320 knew this. The rain snow line is going to fall 0:02:05.400 --> 0:02:09.040 right along the corridor between Philly and New York. That's 0:02:09.080 --> 0:02:13.040 where I live, directly on the corridors. So right now 0:02:13.120 --> 0:02:16.040 at the time of this recording. UM. Safe ice, so 0:02:16.080 --> 0:02:18.320 I'm told, is a is a few hours north, probably 0:02:18.320 --> 0:02:21.040 about two hours north. All we have here is skim 0:02:21.080 --> 0:02:23.119 ice I don't know, maybe maybe a half an inch, 0:02:23.320 --> 0:02:26.560 but looking at the long term temps, that could change quickly. 0:02:26.600 --> 0:02:29.639 And I heard your old stomping grounds in far northeast 0:02:29.639 --> 0:02:32.080 p a uh there there they have good ice at 0:02:32.160 --> 0:02:35.320 least on some of the smaller water, but that's only 0:02:35.400 --> 0:02:37.679 as of recently this season. It hasn't been that way 0:02:37.720 --> 0:02:39.720 for months or anything like that. Yeah, it was always 0:02:39.800 --> 0:02:43.000 like you would never really know how your ice fishing 0:02:43.040 --> 0:02:47.800 plans would pan out. Maybe you could get a covert tube. 0:02:47.919 --> 0:02:50.080 It seems like as late the lake would never just 0:02:50.760 --> 0:02:53.960 freeze all the way solid, especially the bigger waters like 0:02:53.960 --> 0:02:55.880 like Lake Wall and Paul Pack up there. I've I've 0:02:55.880 --> 0:02:59.280 done some ice fishing on Round Valley Reservoir in Jersey too, 0:02:59.840 --> 0:03:01.760 and every time I've done that, you are you are 0:03:01.840 --> 0:03:05.600 stuck in one cove. It's not nearly frozen all the 0:03:05.600 --> 0:03:07.560 way over. Um, But I don't know. I might be 0:03:07.600 --> 0:03:09.800 making a little run up up to your old stomping 0:03:09.840 --> 0:03:13.080 grounds very soon. Up to Wayne County. There's also loose 0:03:13.080 --> 0:03:15.600 talk with some buds about a little soare uh to 0:03:15.760 --> 0:03:18.160 Lake George in New York. The funny thing is that 0:03:18.160 --> 0:03:21.960 I gotta say what I really want is good, true 0:03:22.200 --> 0:03:24.480 local ice because when you get it right, and you 0:03:24.480 --> 0:03:26.800 know what I'm talking about, the fishing tends to be 0:03:26.840 --> 0:03:29.120 pretty damn good. Because the fish around here where I 0:03:29.160 --> 0:03:32.560 live have been largely unpressured since the fall. It's not 0:03:32.600 --> 0:03:34.960 a smooth transition like in the Midwest where you just 0:03:35.000 --> 0:03:37.960 go from fall open water to boom. Now we're on 0:03:38.000 --> 0:03:40.800 the ice. Um, So the fish here haven't really been 0:03:40.920 --> 0:03:43.000 been beat on. So if it does lock up, your 0:03:43.040 --> 0:03:46.440 your over unpressured fish. Um. And there's just not a 0:03:46.480 --> 0:03:48.720 ton of ice guys in my immediate area, but there 0:03:48.760 --> 0:03:51.920 are I know plenty in Bozeman. You never have to 0:03:51.920 --> 0:03:55.160 worry about local waters not locking up, which is what 0:03:55.960 --> 0:03:58.960 has allowed you to do a thing recently. What is 0:03:59.000 --> 0:04:01.360 the thing you've done? Last week? It was, Wally, what 0:04:01.480 --> 0:04:05.840 have you done? Now? Well, how about we play a 0:04:05.880 --> 0:04:29.160 clip dude a butter Wow? That's wow? Yes, sir, you 0:04:29.240 --> 0:04:31.480 one up me. That's what you did? You want up me? 0:04:31.520 --> 0:04:34.800 On a species, I recently said, I've never caught a bourbon, 0:04:35.520 --> 0:04:38.240 but I'm very intrigued by them, and lo and behold 0:04:38.279 --> 0:04:41.479 over the weekend, here comes a text from Hayden with 0:04:41.760 --> 0:04:44.640 a bourbon, and a lot of folks have reached out 0:04:44.640 --> 0:04:48.680 to me about that, having not caught one. So now 0:04:48.720 --> 0:04:51.040 here we are together, let's talk fight. I know nothing 0:04:51.080 --> 0:04:54.000 about them other than they're a freshwater cod. How was 0:04:54.040 --> 0:04:57.880 the brawl? So when I sent you that initial text 0:04:58.200 --> 0:05:01.039 with like the picture of the bourbon, had described them 0:05:01.040 --> 0:05:06.240 to you as a sporty catfish, and that's kind of 0:05:06.279 --> 0:05:09.880 exactly how I think about him. I felt like reeling 0:05:09.920 --> 0:05:11.760 up a channel cat through the ice. Man. It had 0:05:11.800 --> 0:05:13.840 like those kind of like half runs, you know what 0:05:13.880 --> 0:05:16.080 I mean, Like those little kind of like bulldog e things. 0:05:16.080 --> 0:05:18.120 It's not like a rainbow or or like a lake 0:05:18.200 --> 0:05:21.760 or where like strip line and like just go. It 0:05:21.880 --> 0:05:25.560 was very much a coming up going down, coming up, 0:05:26.000 --> 0:05:28.560 going down, you know. So that's what I'm looking for, right, 0:05:28.560 --> 0:05:30.960 because so many things through the ice, right, they do 0:05:31.120 --> 0:05:33.640 tend to come up quicker, like even large mouth and things, 0:05:33.760 --> 0:05:35.240 whether it's on the tip up line or a jig 0:05:35.320 --> 0:05:37.080 or whatever. I feel like a lot of times in 0:05:37.080 --> 0:05:40.279 that colder water, like the hit will be strong, but 0:05:40.360 --> 0:05:43.280 then the fish doesn't give you a ton unless you're 0:05:43.279 --> 0:05:45.280 talking about big fish like a lake or something. So 0:05:45.600 --> 0:05:47.280 that's what I was driving out, like did they make 0:05:47.320 --> 0:05:50.159 you work for it? Yeah, they definitely do. And it 0:05:50.279 --> 0:05:52.080 was interesting. You know, I want to like shout out 0:05:52.120 --> 0:05:56.479 thirteen fishing real quick, because the reservoir that we were 0:05:56.600 --> 0:05:59.240 in has a bunch of trouting it. I had the 0:05:59.320 --> 0:06:01.280 rather I used for bourbon, and I had the rod 0:06:01.320 --> 0:06:04.720 that I wanted to use for trout, and I had 0:06:04.880 --> 0:06:07.840 ended up deciding that me and my buddy we were 0:06:07.800 --> 0:06:09.479 going to sleep out on the ice and try and 0:06:09.520 --> 0:06:13.880 get that real like late night bite. And the rod 0:06:13.960 --> 0:06:15.720 that I wanted to use for bourbon was just a 0:06:15.800 --> 0:06:18.680 little bit too long to be comfortable like in the 0:06:18.680 --> 0:06:22.120 shanty set up that we had going. So I ended 0:06:22.160 --> 0:06:24.839 up using the rod that I wanted to use for trout, 0:06:25.680 --> 0:06:30.839 which was a lighter rod. I was really surprised, like 0:06:30.920 --> 0:06:34.040 the backbone that that thing had coupled with like the sensitivity, 0:06:34.040 --> 0:06:35.520 because the way that we were doing it is he 0:06:35.680 --> 0:06:38.440 was on one side of the shanty just like pulp 0:06:38.520 --> 0:06:40.599 pounding with like a big heavy jig to kind of 0:06:40.600 --> 0:06:42.640 bring him around, and I was dead stick in a 0:06:42.760 --> 0:06:46.200 chunk of a chunk of sucker meat and just watching 0:06:46.200 --> 0:06:51.200 the rod tip um, I saw the bite, really faint 0:06:51.200 --> 0:06:54.880 bite got on the rod, blasted this fish. And when 0:06:54.920 --> 0:06:57.680 I set the hook immediately, I was like you know, 0:06:57.760 --> 0:06:59.800 you when when when your ice fish and trout you 0:07:00.000 --> 0:07:01.560 at the hook, but they tend to come up with it. 0:07:01.640 --> 0:07:03.800 Now like a bourbon that's like six pounds or so, 0:07:03.880 --> 0:07:06.880 I mean, that thing stays kind of tight. But man, 0:07:07.120 --> 0:07:11.080 I popped this hook into this thing and followed them 0:07:11.080 --> 0:07:13.360 all the way up. You know, I'll probably post a 0:07:13.480 --> 0:07:17.160 video of the fight on the Instagram so y'all can 0:07:17.200 --> 0:07:19.240 see that in action if you're curious. I'm going to 0:07:19.320 --> 0:07:21.760 make one of those little safe stories there. But yeah, 0:07:21.920 --> 0:07:23.960 right on, Well, did I tell you what, even even 0:07:24.000 --> 0:07:26.520 like saltwater cod, you know, like there are a cold 0:07:26.520 --> 0:07:28.720 water fish do when you sting one deep on a 0:07:28.800 --> 0:07:31.160 jig or something. Yeah, they don't. They don't want to 0:07:31.160 --> 0:07:33.400 come up right away, like you know, you know you 0:07:33.560 --> 0:07:36.520 got something there. So that's cool, man. And since we're 0:07:36.520 --> 0:07:39.560 talking ice and you were just talking thirteen fishing, let's 0:07:39.640 --> 0:07:42.240 keep that party train rolling. We're going to jump into 0:07:42.280 --> 0:07:44.800 smooth moves our segment where we let captains and guides 0:07:44.880 --> 0:07:48.320 bitch about ridiculous things clients have done. Though today we 0:07:48.360 --> 0:07:51.920 haven't a captain nor a guide, but young Ben Schumann, 0:07:52.200 --> 0:07:58.160 one of the members of thirteen Fishings ice team. Why 0:07:58.160 --> 0:08:03.880 why did you? Oh my god? So joining us for 0:08:04.000 --> 0:08:07.560 smooth moves today is Ben Schuman? Now you are you 0:08:07.560 --> 0:08:10.880 are not a guide? Correct? No, I am not. You 0:08:10.920 --> 0:08:15.320 are not, but you are part of the thirteen Fishing Team, 0:08:15.480 --> 0:08:18.520 which we brought you here. And now what they've told 0:08:18.600 --> 0:08:20.480 us is that you are you are one of their 0:08:20.520 --> 0:08:27.200 ice guys. Specifically, is that accurate? Yes? Yea Minnesotan. Minnesotan, Okay, 0:08:27.320 --> 0:08:30.520 sounds good. Now what what they've also told me is 0:08:30.560 --> 0:08:32.679 that you are one half of what they referred to 0:08:32.760 --> 0:08:36.240 as the Bourbon Brothers. The Bourbon Brothers. I wish I 0:08:36.320 --> 0:08:38.600 was part of that. Why would they Why would they 0:08:38.640 --> 0:08:40.439 say that? I figured because I was looking at your 0:08:40.480 --> 0:08:42.440 your Instagram and some of your other stuff and I 0:08:42.440 --> 0:08:44.280 didn't see a lot of bourbon. Why why would they 0:08:44.280 --> 0:08:51.800 say that? So? Probably because so Sam More. Samore's really 0:08:51.840 --> 0:08:57.040 popular videographer and basically him and a buddy tyler of mine. 0:08:57.520 --> 0:08:59.760 I don't know if he's filmed a couple of videos 0:08:59.760 --> 0:09:02.559 of catching a bunch of bourbon and maybe, like Reid thought, 0:09:02.559 --> 0:09:04.840 I was I was with them on that or something. 0:09:05.440 --> 0:09:07.400 But all right, well thank you for coming on, Ben 0:09:10.840 --> 0:09:14.239 nixs the bourbon questions. No, man, just just kidding um. 0:09:14.400 --> 0:09:16.760 But so I read now tell me what this is 0:09:16.960 --> 0:09:19.520 because you were recently hyping this on social media. You 0:09:19.559 --> 0:09:23.120 are also one half CEO of the bass Mobile. Yeah, 0:09:23.600 --> 0:09:26.640 what is the bass Mobile? So basically I worked for 0:09:26.960 --> 0:09:30.319 Ketchko and they sent my buddy Tyl and I out 0:09:30.360 --> 0:09:33.880 on the road. Last this is Tyler Brick right, Yeah, 0:09:34.240 --> 0:09:37.520 who is also one of thirteen guys. Yes, got you 0:09:37.559 --> 0:09:41.880 on the border brothers. Your last name was Mortar. That's 0:09:41.960 --> 0:09:45.640 very that's true. So I'm sorry that bass mobile. So basically, 0:09:45.800 --> 0:09:48.880 catch COO sent us out in the Basstmobile. They created 0:09:48.920 --> 0:09:51.760 this and they sent us out on the road last 0:09:51.840 --> 0:09:54.280 year for about I think it was like five months, 0:09:54.640 --> 0:09:57.400 and we just went like all over the country and 0:09:57.840 --> 0:10:00.800 just went to like fairs, kids, school rules, We went 0:10:00.800 --> 0:10:03.840 to like fishing events, and basically our main thing was 0:10:03.880 --> 0:10:06.160 to try and rescue people from the indoors and just 0:10:06.200 --> 0:10:09.400 people get people excited about fishing. It was like a 0:10:09.480 --> 0:10:11.720 takeover where you like you literally run in and snatch 0:10:11.800 --> 0:10:13.400 them and throw them in the basket mobile and get 0:10:13.440 --> 0:10:17.680 them outside. No, that's a good idea, but I mean 0:10:18.320 --> 0:10:20.600 probably getting a little trouble trying to do that. But 0:10:21.000 --> 0:10:24.439 in some states, you know, maybe not so much. No, 0:10:24.600 --> 0:10:26.840 that's cool though, man, So okay, so then we've clarified. 0:10:26.880 --> 0:10:28.800 Now if you're if you're not a bourbon brother, because 0:10:28.800 --> 0:10:31.480 you're a hardcore bourbon angler, Like, do you have a 0:10:31.520 --> 0:10:34.040 thing on the ice that is like your favorite your 0:10:34.080 --> 0:10:37.040 go to My favorite thing to fish for on the 0:10:37.040 --> 0:10:42.640 ice is probably i'd say definitely crapp ease or you 0:10:42.679 --> 0:10:46.520 didn't say walleyes. So I like that. No, honestly, like 0:10:46.760 --> 0:10:49.200 a lot of people will get bad. They won't. I 0:10:49.240 --> 0:10:54.199 won't bring it. I'm not a big walleye guy. Yeah, 0:10:54.280 --> 0:11:02.280 I'm sorry. Like, man, why if I'm not in Canada, 0:11:02.520 --> 0:11:05.760 there's no point in fishing for walleyes? Is it like? 0:11:07.960 --> 0:11:09.880 Is it like? Is it like a number of things? 0:11:09.920 --> 0:11:12.559 It's just like, well, just just so darn. That's how 0:11:12.600 --> 0:11:14.640 I feel when I go back to Uh. I mean, 0:11:14.960 --> 0:11:18.800 obviously they're like hallowed grounds for trout in Pennsylvania, but 0:11:19.720 --> 0:11:22.319 living in Montana, now when I go back to the 0:11:22.360 --> 0:11:24.760 East Coast, I have no desire to fish for trout. 0:11:24.880 --> 0:11:27.199 Is it like a similar thing, It's just you've experienced it. 0:11:27.320 --> 0:11:31.040 It's such a level that it's just it's not comparable. 0:11:32.480 --> 0:11:34.080 I don't know, man, I've just always been like a 0:11:34.120 --> 0:11:36.720 bass guy, and I just feel like bass guys and 0:11:36.720 --> 0:11:40.959 walleye guys butt heads. So I'm like, I just kind 0:11:40.960 --> 0:11:45.760 of stick to my bath basically. Yeah, just like the 0:11:45.760 --> 0:11:49.000 picture you got earlier. Yeah, right, right right. So, I 0:11:49.040 --> 0:11:52.440 mean I've seen some of these giant crop ease on 0:11:52.440 --> 0:11:55.080 your social media, and I think that's interesting. I feel 0:11:55.080 --> 0:11:57.520 like I've all like the most popular ice targets if 0:11:57.520 --> 0:11:59.120 you break down the country. I know, I know a 0:11:59.200 --> 0:12:02.480 lot of people um crappy fish through the ice, but 0:12:02.520 --> 0:12:04.360 I feel like it takes a back seat to your 0:12:04.440 --> 0:12:08.800 yellow perch and walleye and lake trout. Um, what's what's 0:12:08.880 --> 0:12:10.840 what's different? Because even though we're here for a smooth 0:12:10.840 --> 0:12:12.960 moves like we're gonna learn something, damnit and pump you 0:12:13.040 --> 0:12:15.920 for some information. So like for the guy that that's 0:12:15.960 --> 0:12:17.920 looking for the slab croppies through the ice, and you 0:12:17.960 --> 0:12:20.840 certainly catch them like in a nutshell I'm sure you 0:12:20.840 --> 0:12:23.720 could write a book, But what's different about that approach 0:12:23.840 --> 0:12:27.920 verse jigging perch or Walleye or something like that. Wal 0:12:28.920 --> 0:12:32.719 what what's different? I'm just trying to think of like 0:12:32.720 --> 0:12:35.640 like things that I could really like highlight that's different 0:12:35.679 --> 0:12:38.280 from what about like structure. You know, I know a 0:12:38.280 --> 0:12:42.760 lot of folks. Basically when I'm like searching for crappys, 0:12:42.800 --> 0:12:46.120 I'm looking for places that have like sandy or muddy 0:12:46.160 --> 0:12:50.160 bottoms and then with with crappy fish, and I feel 0:12:50.200 --> 0:12:53.160 like you just get into a basin. And what I 0:12:53.240 --> 0:12:55.000 like to do when I'm with Buddy is whether it's 0:12:56.080 --> 0:12:58.120 a group of guys are just like myself and one 0:12:58.120 --> 0:13:00.720 other dude, drill a bunch of hole as like as 0:13:00.800 --> 0:13:04.000 many as you can and just start hopping around in 0:13:04.040 --> 0:13:09.240 that basin. And and basically what I mean, I guess 0:13:09.240 --> 0:13:11.000 if people don't really know what a basin is, it's 0:13:11.040 --> 0:13:15.200 just a pocket of deep water, uh in a lake. 0:13:15.840 --> 0:13:18.080 So if there's like a drop off or something and 0:13:18.120 --> 0:13:20.640 it's just like a it's a it's a It's kind 0:13:20.640 --> 0:13:23.680 of hard to explain, honestly, But if people like looked 0:13:23.760 --> 0:13:26.559 up like basin and no, no, no, no, no, we 0:13:26.679 --> 0:13:28.680 got we got the basin. But I think I think 0:13:28.679 --> 0:13:31.560 it's like it's not a lazy man's ice fishery, Like 0:13:31.600 --> 0:13:34.679 you need to drill and move around down and then 0:13:34.720 --> 0:13:37.400 I imagine like even with open wood crappy, you find 0:13:37.480 --> 0:13:42.400 one or two found the pile, right yeah. Yeah, And 0:13:42.400 --> 0:13:46.559 and sometimes it's it is hard because the fisher get finicky. 0:13:46.600 --> 0:13:49.520 The pressure will be weird and and the fish will 0:13:49.559 --> 0:13:51.960 either be running from you and they'll hear you drilling 0:13:52.120 --> 0:13:54.560 up on top of the ice and they're gone. You'll 0:13:54.559 --> 0:13:57.040 have days like that, well you'll you'll be drilling and 0:13:57.040 --> 0:13:59.439 you're not gonna catch anything all day. Yeah. Yeah, I've 0:13:59.440 --> 0:14:01.760 never done pies, but I've had a similar experience with 0:14:01.840 --> 0:14:05.440 white perch up in New Hampshire. Same deal. It's like 0:14:05.600 --> 0:14:08.360 you were either it was total feast or famine and 0:14:08.880 --> 0:14:11.640 by day you would attract them all or you drill 0:14:11.760 --> 0:14:14.280 and mark some and then they were just they would 0:14:14.320 --> 0:14:17.040 just disappear. That's the thing. One one week they're on 0:14:17.080 --> 0:14:19.760 a feeding frenzy. They'll bite whatever you throw down there, 0:14:20.040 --> 0:14:21.960 and then you go out there the next day and 0:14:22.240 --> 0:14:25.640 you're you're getting skunked. Yeah, but generally speaking that's way 0:14:25.640 --> 0:14:28.280 more exciting to you than walleye fishing. Yeah, I mean 0:14:28.880 --> 0:14:31.760 the thing is with like walleye fishing, like you'll go out, 0:14:31.800 --> 0:14:34.280 like I guess I've never really like went out and 0:14:34.400 --> 0:14:37.720 did like a hardcore like targeting walleye when I'm ice fishing, 0:14:38.200 --> 0:14:41.720 so like, I feel like just every once in a 0:14:41.760 --> 0:14:43.800 while you'll get like your rattle reel to go off 0:14:43.840 --> 0:14:46.640 when you're sleeping in a house or something like, oh yeah, 0:14:46.680 --> 0:14:49.680 well that's that's pretty cool. But I'm like, what Hayden. 0:14:49.840 --> 0:14:52.080 Hayden just caught his first walleye through the ice. He's 0:14:52.120 --> 0:14:53.720 been talking about it for a week and a half, 0:14:54.000 --> 0:14:57.920 so yeah, you know, it's the best part about that. 0:14:58.000 --> 0:15:01.640 I'm like, my buddy's Sam Lunger and took some photos 0:15:01.840 --> 0:15:04.680 of me like just cheesing with his wallene holding up 0:15:04.680 --> 0:15:09.600 a thirteen fish and rig. But that wall is about 0:15:09.600 --> 0:15:13.760 ten and a half twelve inches long. It's not even 0:15:13.840 --> 0:15:16.440 like it's not even like a stud wall eye. It's 0:15:16.480 --> 0:15:18.000 like one of the ones that you look at you going, 0:15:18.040 --> 0:15:23.560 that's perfect eater, you know. Yeah, yeah, it can be fun, 0:15:23.600 --> 0:15:26.280 like catching those wallyne stuff to the ice, but I 0:15:26.320 --> 0:15:28.280 feel like it doesn't get fun until you start catching 0:15:28.280 --> 0:15:31.000 the big ones. Yeah. Yeah, so we know a little 0:15:31.000 --> 0:15:32.600 bit about who you are what you do, man, but 0:15:32.640 --> 0:15:35.000 we brought you here for smooth moves. So as we said, 0:15:35.120 --> 0:15:37.320 you're you're not a guy, but you uh, you spend 0:15:37.320 --> 0:15:38.960 a hell of a lot of time on the water, 0:15:39.160 --> 0:15:42.560 so it doesn't have to be ice, can be open water, whatever. 0:15:42.680 --> 0:15:47.400 But basically, man like hit us with the most ridiculous, 0:15:47.480 --> 0:15:50.720 funny insane could have happened to you, could have happened 0:15:50.720 --> 0:15:53.520 to somebody else. Story, Um from from all this time 0:15:53.560 --> 0:15:54.960 you get to spend on the water and out there 0:15:54.960 --> 0:15:57.920 on the road. Yea, So there was I guess I 0:15:57.920 --> 0:15:59.760 could probably go over a couple of things that have 0:15:59.840 --> 0:16:02.240 had from to me over the years. But last year, 0:16:02.720 --> 0:16:04.760 I think it was last year or maybe the year before, 0:16:05.160 --> 0:16:07.360 Tyler Brick and I actually we went out onto this 0:16:07.480 --> 0:16:10.520 lake and it was right about that time where it's 0:16:10.520 --> 0:16:13.280 like kind of if you whether you should drive out 0:16:13.360 --> 0:16:16.280 or not. It's kind of like, what's not what do 0:16:16.360 --> 0:16:24.120 they say it's not if they say about a foot? 0:16:25.000 --> 0:16:28.520 I mean, I don't know. It's different in in everybody's eyes, 0:16:28.560 --> 0:16:31.520 because you'll see guys going out there when they should 0:16:31.560 --> 0:16:35.200 not be driving out like people are crazy, man. But 0:16:35.240 --> 0:16:38.240 basically we get to this lake and you could literally 0:16:38.280 --> 0:16:41.600 see where a vehicle had gone through, and I'm sitting 0:16:41.600 --> 0:16:45.760 there thinking like this is just stupid, Like what the 0:16:45.760 --> 0:16:47.640 hell is wrong with us? Like I don't know if 0:16:47.680 --> 0:16:51.520 ice fishermen just have something wrong with them, we're just crazy, 0:16:52.000 --> 0:16:55.520 like yeah, But basically, we get to this lake and 0:16:55.560 --> 0:16:58.440 see like somebody went through, and so I'm like, all right, 0:16:58.640 --> 0:17:01.800 like we're gonna drive out, We're gonna try to make 0:17:01.840 --> 0:17:04.240 it work. And so I just told her. I was like, 0:17:04.320 --> 0:17:07.040 I'm getting out of the vehicle and I'm just gonna 0:17:07.080 --> 0:17:10.640 watch what happens, because like if he goes through, then 0:17:10.880 --> 0:17:13.760 I gotta be like sitting there ready to call somebody 0:17:13.800 --> 0:17:17.840 to come and freaking rescue us. So I get out 0:17:17.880 --> 0:17:22.159 of the car. I think I think scissors that or 0:17:22.200 --> 0:17:26.879 something like it was his vehicle, man. So I was like, 0:17:28.920 --> 0:17:31.360 I was like, dude, just leave, leave your window rolled down, 0:17:31.520 --> 0:17:35.600 keep the seat. He felt unbuckled, and he'll be good. 0:17:35.720 --> 0:17:38.840 But basically I'm like, all right, just just gun it, 0:17:38.960 --> 0:17:41.160 like you'll be fine. And I think We're like one 0:17:41.160 --> 0:17:43.000 of the only vehicles that was going out there. So 0:17:43.040 --> 0:17:46.479 I'm like gosh, dude, this is is risky. But so 0:17:46.600 --> 0:17:48.960 he went down and he hammered it and his back 0:17:49.040 --> 0:17:51.760 end started dropping into the into the water breaking through. 0:17:51.960 --> 0:17:54.560 And I'm just sitting there like and it wasn't like 0:17:54.600 --> 0:17:56.960 that deep of water, but still like you're in a 0:17:57.320 --> 0:17:59.720 into a panic because if you if you drop into 0:17:59.760 --> 0:18:02.800 the water, water, like you don't have long to to live. 0:18:04.359 --> 0:18:06.600 We'll hit you so fast once you hit that cold water. 0:18:07.280 --> 0:18:10.440 And and I'm just sitting there freaking out, and I've 0:18:10.480 --> 0:18:12.399 got all these like scenarios going through my head, like 0:18:12.440 --> 0:18:14.280 oh my god, like I'm gonna have to call Tyler's 0:18:14.480 --> 0:18:16.960 parents and and let him know like we went through 0:18:17.000 --> 0:18:18.760 the ice or he went through the ice, and I'm 0:18:18.840 --> 0:18:21.840 just sitting there freaking out, like holy hell, he was 0:18:21.960 --> 0:18:25.280 just hammered on it and four wheel drive and somehow 0:18:25.400 --> 0:18:27.879 just popped out of there and somehow he had to 0:18:27.880 --> 0:18:31.400 get back. That's what I was gonna say. So wait, so, 0:18:31.400 --> 0:18:33.840 so the way I envisioned this right, tell me if 0:18:33.840 --> 0:18:36.720 I'm wrong. You have the thinner ice on the shallower 0:18:36.800 --> 0:18:38.399 edge of the lake, and you guys knew that if 0:18:38.440 --> 0:18:40.800 you could just get kind of over that obstacle, the 0:18:40.840 --> 0:18:43.280 ice out in the middle was probably okay, right, Yeah, 0:18:43.320 --> 0:18:45.440 the ice out in the middle was pretty good. Right, 0:18:45.480 --> 0:18:47.520 But then that was my question. It's like, well, great, 0:18:47.600 --> 0:18:50.600 he gunned and got out, now he's got to come back. Yeah. 0:18:50.640 --> 0:18:53.359 And so like with the entrance to this lake, it's 0:18:53.520 --> 0:18:57.640 pretty small. So like what he broke through was more 0:18:57.680 --> 0:18:59.840 than half of the path that you're supposed to drive on. 0:19:01.160 --> 0:19:03.720 And so we're sitting there like on the edge here 0:19:03.800 --> 0:19:06.720 is like a bunch of like brush and and I 0:19:06.720 --> 0:19:10.280 don't like cat tails and stuff, and I'm like, there's 0:19:10.320 --> 0:19:12.320 no freaking way he's getting back, Like I don't know 0:19:12.440 --> 0:19:14.360 he's getting how he's getting his vehicle out of there. 0:19:14.400 --> 0:19:17.960 But then he just went out, turned around and he 0:19:18.040 --> 0:19:21.680 just gunned it and shot through just these piles of 0:19:21.760 --> 0:19:24.720 just brush and stuff and somehow got got his vehicle 0:19:24.760 --> 0:19:27.920 through there. So he so he didn't come like through 0:19:27.960 --> 0:19:30.240 the path you're supposed to. He just went like totally 0:19:30.280 --> 0:19:33.679 into the woods. Oh yeah, he was basically like off roading. 0:19:33.720 --> 0:19:38.159 But thank god he's got a So thank god he 0:19:38.280 --> 0:19:41.440 had that. And well man, that that never would have 0:19:41.440 --> 0:19:50.760 happened with our partners, Chevy Silverado. You could edit that out. No, no, no, no, no, no, 0:19:50.840 --> 0:19:52.920 it's all good man. So well, here's a question though, So, 0:19:52.920 --> 0:19:55.960 so he popped out, he got through, Did you guys 0:19:55.960 --> 0:19:58.160 go out and fish and then worry about getting back 0:19:58.240 --> 0:19:59.919 later or was it sketchy enough where you were like 0:20:00.640 --> 0:20:03.640 it was it was sketchy enough. Well, the dumb thing 0:20:03.760 --> 0:20:06.760 was we were waiting for buddies that had a four 0:20:06.760 --> 0:20:09.359 wheeler and I was like, I think we could probably 0:20:09.400 --> 0:20:13.040 make it, and he does that, and then after like 0:20:13.200 --> 0:20:15.560 he broke through, he's like, now we're getting off, and 0:20:15.560 --> 0:20:19.200 then we went out fishing after that, so got okay. 0:20:19.240 --> 0:20:23.640 So basically that was completely unnecessary to even risk it, right, Oh, yeah, 0:20:23.720 --> 0:20:29.160 completely unnecessary. Here's my wor here's my question is how 0:20:29.240 --> 0:20:33.080 far away was the spot that you were intending to fish? Oh? 0:20:33.119 --> 0:20:35.919 Probably about a mile? The things that we will do 0:20:36.000 --> 0:20:39.280 in order not to walk a mile. Yeah, oh I know, 0:20:39.840 --> 0:20:44.880 I know, man, it's ridiculous. Well, yeah, that all turned 0:20:44.920 --> 0:20:48.960 out well though, that's what matters. Yes, yes, but it 0:20:49.080 --> 0:20:52.639 was it was scary, man, not gonna lie, It was 0:20:52.680 --> 0:20:55.000 a scary one. Have you ever seen a truck go 0:20:55.000 --> 0:20:57.960 go completely through while you've been out there? I haven't 0:20:58.000 --> 0:20:59.959 seen a truck go through, but like when I've been 0:21:00.119 --> 0:21:02.720 driving out on the ice, I've seen like trucks in 0:21:03.240 --> 0:21:06.639 in the water like that that had gone through. I 0:21:06.960 --> 0:21:09.879 always think about that. I mean, having it happen is 0:21:09.920 --> 0:21:12.720 one thing. Hopefully everybody comes out of that safely, But 0:21:12.760 --> 0:21:15.679 then there's sort of the like what's the protocol on 0:21:15.720 --> 0:21:19.160