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Speaker 1: And now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks.

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Speaker 1: What's up? Everybody? Welcome to move the sticks, DJ, Bucky

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Speaker 1: A Ratt back together. Buck. First of all, where are

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Speaker 1: you are? You still in Jacksonville? Right now? Where you're at?

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Speaker 2: I am still in Jacksonville because that game was late.

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Speaker 2: I didn't get back to the hotel room until about

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Speaker 2: two o'clock after all the.

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Speaker 1: Loose Maybe, yeah, that's a that's full night's work.

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Speaker 2: Uh why do we?

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Speaker 1: Why do we? Why don't we start there, by the way,

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Speaker 1: because we were talking about this a little bit before

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Speaker 1: we started today, and uh, that was ugly man, Like

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Speaker 1: I was watching that game last night, the Jacksonville offense,

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Speaker 1: and we can go anywhere you want to go, but

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Speaker 1: that was man watching that. That was not not a

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Speaker 2: No, it was not a good watch. And so like,

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Speaker 2: let's let's back up. Let me give full context about

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Speaker 2: the performance. So coming into the game, you had two

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Speaker 2: line and at wide receiver with Christian Kurtz not available,

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Speaker 2: and that's you get Jamal Agnew back. You have a

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Speaker 2: and so you're trying to put all this together. Doug

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Speaker 2: Peterson has been kind of I guess, sharing play call

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Speaker 2: trying press. Taylor is trying to figure out what to

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Speaker 2: do with what he has. And so the goal was,

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Speaker 2: because they had so many communication issue today, let's try

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Speaker 2: and make sure we can get everybody on the same page.

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Speaker 2: You saw them very early in the game, then the

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Speaker 2: running game, the screen game, using that as an extension

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Speaker 2: to drawn and what they did. They had two opportunities

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Speaker 2: early in the game, and what happened. They missed back

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Speaker 2: to back long range field goals fifty yard plus Brandon

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Speaker 2: for a team, that is the confidence kind of fragile.

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Speaker 2: When you don't get those points, you then begin to

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Speaker 2: question some stuff. You have another drive where they're about

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Speaker 2: drops the ball. It's really been a microcosm of what

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Speaker 2: it's plagued the Jaguars all year. Turnovers, pre snapped penalties

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Speaker 2: and falsey execution and key moments. Then at the end

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Speaker 2: of the half, you have the great throat of a Jones.

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Speaker 2: Push you inside the ten yard line, you have a

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Speaker 2: chance to get a guaranteed three points. You can clock it,

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Speaker 2: defense napping. Trevor Lawrence does the only thing that you

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Speaker 2: can't do. They throw it, they complete it in bounds,

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Speaker 2: tap it in bounds, clock limbs out. And I can

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Speaker 2: tell you walking off the field, all the air going out,

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Speaker 2: the balloon on the team, no matter what you talk

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Speaker 2: about the licker room, we can do it or whatever.

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Speaker 2: But the players walking in plump shoulders about heads like

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Speaker 2: are to turn that around. Now there's no direct single

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Speaker 2: point into sixteen, but you're looking like, man, we have

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Speaker 2: an opportunity to get some points in those things. And

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Speaker 2: you just have a situation where you may have a

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I just how do you have that situational failure

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Speaker 1: decent amount of football. Now, this is not Trevor Lawrence's

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Speaker 1: first year, Like that can't happen. It just to me

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Speaker 1: But then, I'll be honest, and I'm a Trevor Lawrence fan.

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Speaker 1: I'm watching this game, I'm talking about some terrible misses,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, it's it's unfortunate because it kind of

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Speaker 3: So it does feel like there are some things, you know,

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Speaker 3: you know he hits the throw to Agnew and you're like, well,

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Speaker 3: it makes the ones that you're talking about DJ and.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's a it's a it's a real complicated

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Speaker 2: interesting to know he plays on the stretch because no

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Speaker 2: you talk about the noise escalating around number sixteen and

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Speaker 2: the Jaguars, it'd be interesting stuff to deal with.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean you mentioned when we were talking about

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Speaker 2: more than the next guy, which would be Jerry Golf. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Ball security is an issue, and we all know, man,

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Speaker 2: we're around the game, particularly this year in the National

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Speaker 2: Football League. There's thirty teams that are still in playoff contention. Therefore,

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Speaker 2: typically the deciding factor. So when you're a quarterback gives

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Speaker 2: Prior to the draft, when Cal Hamilton was in the draft,

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Speaker 2: And so here here's what I'm learning and when I'm

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Speaker 2: I'm saying that knowing Brokewan Smith and Patrick Quinn and

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Speaker 1: Who's a fourteen pick? Buck? So he fell to them

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Speaker 2: fantastic player. Matty Buik, who I remember you being really

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Speaker 4: That's kind of a wow moment.

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Speaker 2: I will say this about the Texans and we'll talk

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Speaker 1: everybody excited. Yeah, and where whatever you want to place

432
00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:03,760
Speaker 1: that blame, whether it's they don't have enough explosive players,

433
00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:08,280
Speaker 1: whether it's the scheme isn't dynamic enough, it just shouldn't

434
00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:10,720
Speaker 1: have been that hard. And it was in looking back

435
00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:13,080
Speaker 1: on it, it was like, you know what this team looks.

436
00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:16,040
Speaker 1: It looks a little older, it looks a little slower.

437
00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:20,600
Speaker 1: There's not a lot of explosiveness. There's uh, you know, defensively,

438
00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:23,280
Speaker 1: they've got all kinds of issues on that side of

439
00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:25,879
Speaker 1: the ball. But just that one little that one little snapshot.

440
00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:27,760
Speaker 1: To me, I look back on it, go, man, maybe

441
00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:29,119
Speaker 1: I should have read more into that.

442
00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:33,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, DJ. The same with the Chargers. I think we

443
00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:36,160
Speaker 2: always talk about teams and what's their identity. I think

444
00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:38,639
Speaker 2: if I was pressed and you asked me close my

445
00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:41,320
Speaker 2: eyes and envision an LA Charger game and what it

446
00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:44,640
Speaker 2: looks like. I don't really know if I can understand

447
00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:48,080
Speaker 2: their style, Like they're not necessarily a glinded out team.

448
00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:51,320
Speaker 2: They're not explosive in dynamic in uh maybe fun and

449
00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:54,159
Speaker 2: creative like the Miami Dolphins, and so they kind of

450
00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:57,119
Speaker 2: fall in the in between. You know, they have good players.

451
00:20:57,160 --> 00:20:58,680
Speaker 2: You know, they have a good quarterback. You know, they

452
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Speaker 2: have defensive pieces that should lead to the defensive unit

453
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Speaker 2: being good. But I just don't know what that identity is.

454
00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:09,000
Speaker 2: And look, look it pains me because Tom Toon Lefsco

455
00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:11,040
Speaker 2: is like a personal brand. He's in the front of

456
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Speaker 2: the show. You know him well, I know him well.

457
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Speaker 1: And he's a red friend, you know, and.

458
00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:17,679
Speaker 2: And and so I can't really say that, like, like

459
00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:22,600
Speaker 2: the individual pieces don't work because they're talented. I just

460
00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:26,320
Speaker 2: don't know where the where the where It's lost in translation,

461
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Speaker 2: because you would think that this team would be better

462
00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:31,320
Speaker 2: because they have good players. They just haven't played well

463
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Speaker 2: for whatever reason.

464
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Speaker 3: Yeah, And I mean the biggest one obviously, DJ you

465
00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:39,000
Speaker 3: talked about it, the quarterback not taking the next step,

466
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Speaker 3: and like and and you know, you know you know

467
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Speaker 3: that no, Brandon Staley's got a defensive emphasis. But I

468
00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:45,919
Speaker 3: think we all kind of thought that this was a

469
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Speaker 3: really smart hire and bringing Kellen Moore in right to

470
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Speaker 3: run the offense, and thought that maybe like this would

471
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Speaker 3: be this would be something to allow us to see

472
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Speaker 3: the full spectrum of Justin Herbert's talents, and you know, obviously,

473
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Speaker 3: you know, you wonder how much injuries play a role

474
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Speaker 3: in a season like this sometimes. I mean, Herbert's has

475
00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:04,840
Speaker 3: seemingly been you know, banged up in some way, shape

476
00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:07,200
Speaker 3: or form for most of this season. You know, Keenan

477
00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:09,880
Speaker 3: Allen misses time, Mike Williams down for the for the year,

478
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Speaker 3: and then you know, the Austin Eckler thing is kind

479
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Speaker 3: of interesting, and we almost look back on that with

480
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Speaker 3: that whole kind of you know, is he going to

481
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Speaker 3: be here?

482
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Speaker 4: Is he not going to be here?

483
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Speaker 2: Thing?

484
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Speaker 3: It's like, you know, did the Chargers actually see something there?

485
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Speaker 3: You know, because he has not been as productive, you know,

486
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Speaker 3: certainly in the run game, still gets some you know,

487
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Speaker 3: some receptions, gets his hands on the ball that way.

488
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Speaker 4: But man, it's just you know, it's like they it's

489
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Speaker 4: kind of baffling.

490
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Speaker 3: And again it's like the second time I'll bring it

491
00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:38,199
Speaker 3: back to the to like the Bills and like you're wondering,

492
00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:40,840
Speaker 3: this team is better than it should be, you know,

493
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Speaker 3: or it's it's not as good as it should be.

494
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Speaker 4: Right now.

495
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Speaker 3: You know, they're better on paper than they than they

496
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Speaker 3: are in the win loss column. So I think you

497
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Speaker 3: know a lot of times when that stuff happens, Yeah,

498
00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:50,920
Speaker 3: I mean it's like, all.

499
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Speaker 4: Right, well, clearly we've got the players.

500
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Speaker 3: You know, we've seen the players make these types of

501
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Speaker 3: plays that we can win with on a regular basis.

502
00:22:57,840 --> 00:22:59,919
Speaker 3: When they're not, what where else do we go with

503
00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,159
Speaker 3: a blame other than the coach?

504
00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:02,600
Speaker 2: You know?

505
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Speaker 1: In the GM, Well, I think that's part of it

506
00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:07,520
Speaker 1: is is you're paying stars, and you see I see

507
00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:09,359
Speaker 1: this in baseball as a baseball fan as well, when

508
00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:11,800
Speaker 1: you're playing stars and stars get hurt. In other words,

509
00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:14,240
Speaker 1: when you miss Mike Williams for the whole season and

510
00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:17,240
Speaker 1: he's making twenty million bucks a year, like they didn't

511
00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:20,600
Speaker 1: have the organizational depth to replace what he what he brought.

512
00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:24,040
Speaker 1: Corey Linsley gets hurt. It's a big drop off for them,

513
00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:26,360
Speaker 1: and that's kind of the nerve center of their offensive line.

514
00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:29,920
Speaker 1: I still thought there was enough talent in place even

515
00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:33,720
Speaker 1: without those guys that they should have been better offensively defensively.

516
00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:37,200
Speaker 1: It's complicated because they've you know, look, jac Jackson was

517
00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:40,840
Speaker 1: a miss, and then you have you know, you look

518
00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:43,000
Speaker 1: at the secondary and you're like, okay, you don't really

519
00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:47,240
Speaker 1: have a big time corner anywhere on the roster the

520
00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:49,680
Speaker 1: linebacker position. They're not. They can't. They're not a good

521
00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:52,159
Speaker 1: coverage group there. But so you can say, okay, well

522
00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:54,000
Speaker 1: they're going to lose some individual one on one matchups. But

523
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Speaker 1: yet when you watch the tape, more than anything, than

524
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Speaker 1: more than physical beats, it's just they're just blown Like

525
00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:01,840
Speaker 1: there's just guys running Scott Free. It's not like you

526
00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:04,000
Speaker 1: just faster than me, you're better than me. You caught

527
00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:06,240
Speaker 1: them all over the top of my head. It's what

528
00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:08,280
Speaker 1: the heck is covering that guy? There's nobody even in

529
00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:11,080
Speaker 1: the vicinity of him. So there was there was a

530
00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:13,800
Speaker 1: lot of issues there. And and as I've said many

531
00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:16,400
Speaker 1: a time this year, nobody gets hit with the right

532
00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:19,600
Speaker 1: hand more than the Chargers. You know, when most teams

533
00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:21,760
Speaker 1: are trying to take away your best player, they allow

534
00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:24,520
Speaker 1: your best player to eat like it's you know, Thanksgiving.

535
00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:29,080
Speaker 1: So they just it wasn't well, it wasn't well put

536
00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:32,480
Speaker 1: together and coordinated there. But I will say I'm looking

537
00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:36,040
Speaker 1: at the future here buck going into next year. Khalil

538
00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:38,960
Speaker 1: Mack with a cap hit of thirty eight point five.

539
00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:44,240
Speaker 1: Joey Bosa thirty six, Keenan Allen thirty four, Mike Williams

540
00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:49,399
Speaker 1: thirty two. They're they're already like they're forty four million,

541
00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:52,520
Speaker 1: I believe over the cap for next year. So this

542
00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:55,720
Speaker 1: was a push in year. So to me, we'll see

543
00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:58,919
Speaker 1: what they end up doing with these two hires. But

544
00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:02,600
Speaker 1: to me, this feels like, hey, let's let's let's strip

545
00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:05,200
Speaker 1: it down a little bit before we build back up.

546
00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:07,080
Speaker 1: And you're gonna have to, you know, hopefully you can

547
00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:08,919
Speaker 1: trade some of these guys. If not, you're gonna end

548
00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,119
Speaker 1: up releasing some of them. And then it's going to

549
00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:13,600
Speaker 1: be imperative. Now that you've paid the quarterback. As we

550
00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:17,800
Speaker 1: always say, buck, hey, third, fourth, fifth, sixth round, you

551
00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:19,840
Speaker 1: got to find some starters in there. Man, You've got

552
00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:21,800
Speaker 1: to find you know, the days of being able to

553
00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:24,000
Speaker 1: pay your center that much money are over. We got

554
00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:25,679
Speaker 1: to find a center in the fourth round that can

555
00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:28,119
Speaker 1: be a good player for us. Like those types of

556
00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:30,399
Speaker 1: things that that's going to be what the future looks like.

557
00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:32,040
Speaker 1: They got to draft their butts off.

558
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:35,400
Speaker 2: DJ Like, because you're so close to it, I don't

559
00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:37,639
Speaker 2: want to get you in trouble, but if you could,

560
00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:40,720
Speaker 2: if you could tell me like as the czar, like,

561
00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:43,840
Speaker 2: how do you think the charges should play? Like looking

562
00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:46,399
Speaker 2: at the division and looking at what you have that

563
00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:48,399
Speaker 2: are statement. You know, the quarterbacks will be there some

564
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:51,440
Speaker 2: of the other pieces, like what do you think stylistically

565
00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:54,080
Speaker 2: their approach should be when it comes to the way

566
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Speaker 2: that they play on the field and the players that

567
00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:56,720
Speaker 2: you have to bring in.

568
00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:59,359
Speaker 1: To fit this s up, well, they need some juice.

569
00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:03,280
Speaker 1: They need juice at receiver to add to the mix.

570
00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:04,919
Speaker 1: They need somebody that can that can give you some

571
00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:08,000
Speaker 1: explosives at receiver. They need juice in the backfield that

572
00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:10,679
Speaker 1: they don't have that right now. So you know the

573
00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:13,879
Speaker 1: tight end position, that's like the trifecta to me and

574
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:16,679
Speaker 1: I like ever it's a good player. But they need speed.

575
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:18,520
Speaker 1: They need to get younger, they need to get faster,

576
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:20,720
Speaker 1: and that's how they need to forge an identity because

577
00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:23,280
Speaker 1: right now, especially with Mike Williams out, Mike Williams is

578
00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:25,439
Speaker 1: a huge part of their identity because their identity is

579
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:28,119
Speaker 1: we are our receivers are a basketball team. Josh Palmer

580
00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:29,679
Speaker 1: is a good player. He's going to be. You know,

581
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:31,760
Speaker 1: he's missed a bunch of time this year as well,

582
00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:34,200
Speaker 1: but that has been their identity. It has been we're

583
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Speaker 1: gonna Keenan and Mike and Josh are all physical guys.

584
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:39,560
Speaker 1: But now you lose two of those three for a

585
00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:41,720
Speaker 1: big chunk of the season, Mike for almost all the season,

586
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:43,800
Speaker 1: and now you're left with, Okay, now we don't have

587
00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:46,240
Speaker 1: any speed, and now we can't play bully ball on

588
00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:49,880
Speaker 1: the outside. So to me, they've got a couple good

589
00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:52,200
Speaker 1: young pieces on the offensive line. They need to continue

590
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:54,760
Speaker 1: to keep to keep going there. But I think to me,

591
00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:58,399
Speaker 1: the quarterback, the quarterback is a freak show in terms

592
00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:01,240
Speaker 1: of the arm talent, So get him some guys that

593
00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:03,760
Speaker 1: can feature that a little bit, guys that can stretch out.

594
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:06,360
Speaker 1: And so to me, that those three positions, those three

595
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:09,280
Speaker 1: skill positions, and I mean, I you know, we'll see,

596
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:11,080
Speaker 1: we'll see what they end up doing. But that to

597
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:14,280
Speaker 1: me is the overriding thing offensively, buck is they're too slow.

598
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:15,920
Speaker 1: They've got to get more explosive.

599
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:18,119
Speaker 3: Well, the other thing that I would just say on

600
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:20,120
Speaker 3: this front is like when you're identifying a head coach,

601
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:21,400
Speaker 3: and I think you know a lot of times when

602
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 3: you've got a special talent at quarterback, you're like, all right,

603
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:25,280
Speaker 3: we need to we need to, you know, we need

604
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:27,520
Speaker 3: to surround him with a bunch of quarterback voices.

605
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:27,920
Speaker 4: Right.

606
00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:29,840
Speaker 3: Well, I mean obviously that didn't work out so well

607
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:33,000
Speaker 3: in Carolina, but there's there's been other places where that

608
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:35,639
Speaker 3: has worked. However, I would say this team, more than anything,

609
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 3: because there is talent there, needs to have the best

610
00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:41,520
Speaker 3: leader of men, not necessarily a guy that's going to

611
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:44,000
Speaker 3: specialize on one side of the ball, but one of

612
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:48,800
Speaker 3: those like real CEO head coach types, game managers. You know,

613
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:52,359
Speaker 3: guys that can understand the situations, understand what's going to

614
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:55,879
Speaker 3: put us in the best possible scenario to win games

615
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:58,520
Speaker 3: and to finish games late. And you talk about all

616
00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:02,199
Speaker 3: these close games that the Chargers are gotta have somebody

617
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:04,880
Speaker 3: who's gonna be able to flip those on the winning

618
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 3: side for the most part.

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Speaker 4: So like, more so.

620
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:09,879
Speaker 3: Than hey this is the next great offensive genius or

621
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:12,840
Speaker 3: hey this is the next great defensive genius, you need

622
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:14,360
Speaker 3: a team genius.

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Speaker 1: With Yeah, two quick things here and I won't belabor

624
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:21,239
Speaker 1: the point here and we can move on. But like,

625
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:23,200
Speaker 1: the first name that popped into my mind was Dan

626
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:25,160
Speaker 1: Quinn as a coach who's been to a Super Bowl,

627
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,719
Speaker 1: he's had head coaching experience. You think about the successful

628
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:30,920
Speaker 1: head coaches the Chargers have had in their history. Yeah,

629
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:34,000
Speaker 1: Marty Schottenheimer had been a head coach, North Turner had

630
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,200
Speaker 1: been a head coach, Bobby Ross had been a head coach.

631
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Speaker 1: So I think, to me, having somebody who's who's worn

632
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:42,960
Speaker 1: that hat before it is huge. The other side of

633
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 1: it that I think you got to have that debate

634
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 1: in that discussion is Herbert now Man. He's cycled through

635
00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 1: a lot of different coaches, offensive coordinators, quarterback coaches, and

636
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:54,320
Speaker 1: it was at Oregon and it's happened here with the

637
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 1: Chargers and not having the ability to settle in. And

638
00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:00,520
Speaker 1: that's why I think, I think when you look at

639
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 1: offensive minded head coaches who can hopefully build with him

640
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 1: and be with him as opposed to a defensive head coach,

641
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 1: and now that offensive coach you get up and running

642
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 1: in boom, he gets a head coaching job next year

643
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:13,280
Speaker 1: and here we go again. He's got to go through

644
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:15,720
Speaker 1: another change. So that's going to all be part of

645
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:18,960
Speaker 1: the calculus there of what they do as a head coach.

646
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:20,480
Speaker 1: I do want to say as we move on here,

647
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 1: Buck you mentioned it. Tom Telesco has ended up He's

648
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 1: ended up really being one of my best friends. I

649
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:30,040
Speaker 1: mean he is. He is an awesome dude who it

650
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:33,680
Speaker 1: works his butt off and put a lot into this team,

651
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 1: and they added a lot of talent over the years

652
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:39,239
Speaker 1: and just you know, came up came up short in

653
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 1: the in the postseason last year. I think if you

654
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 1: win that game, then you get you get more opportunity,

655
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:47,560
Speaker 1: uh and you can maybe maybe maybe they all you know,

656
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:50,400
Speaker 1: he's able to survive this this year. But anyways, he's

657
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 1: he's been good to not only good to the show,

658
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 1: he's been really good to meet individually. He is a

659
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:56,880
Speaker 1: good dude, and so I'm excited for his future to

660
00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:58,440
Speaker 1: see what he ends up doing. And I got to

661
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 1: know Brandon Staley pretty well as well the last couple

662
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:02,959
Speaker 1: of years. And you know, the the guy that you

663
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 1: see out front that I think you know got labeled

664
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 1: as you know, arrogant and it all happened too fast

665
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 1: for him, defiant, whatever term you want to use. I

666
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:13,960
Speaker 1: got And I've sat and had dinner with him on

667
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:15,800
Speaker 1: the road. I've I got to talk to him each

668
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 1: and every week in our interviews. Couldn't have been nicer.

669
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:20,480
Speaker 1: He's a good dude too. Man, it may and maybe

670
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:22,880
Speaker 1: it did happen fast for him. Hopefully he gets an

671
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:24,680
Speaker 1: opportunity to kind of work his way and build his

672
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:27,320
Speaker 1: way back up. He's a young guy, and he is

673
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:30,320
Speaker 1: you know, we always talk about football stuff. I I

674
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:32,920
Speaker 1: also look at it from this dude's a good he's

675
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:35,320
Speaker 1: a good guy. He's a good father, he's a good husband.

676
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:37,960
Speaker 1: He's got a nice young family. And I think sometimes

677
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 1: that gets lost when we when you sure, man, this

678
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 1: guy's out, this guy's in, It's like these are people, man,

679
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 1: these are people too when you think about that. So anyways,

680
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 1: I wanted to get that, get that in there. We

681
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:50,240
Speaker 1: can keep moving here. I know, rhtt you've got to

682
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:52,000
Speaker 1: scoot here pretty quick. So why don't you get to

683
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:55,320
Speaker 1: your your next first? She'll jump around here.

684
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:56,560
Speaker 4: Yeah. All right.

685
00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 3: So Brown's Bears and this was this was a strange game,

686
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 3: you know because it's again one of those games where

687
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 3: you've got people like, all right, justin fields here we go,

688
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 3: you know, builds a seventeen to seven league going into

689
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 3: the fourth quarter. I mean, the third quarter was an

690
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 3: absolute disaster for the Browns. You know, you had to

691
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 3: pick six Flaco through and you had, you know, I

692
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 3: think through two of his interceptions in the third quarter,

693
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 3: ends up throwing three in a game.

694
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 4: But man, I mean, like, what's the what's.

695
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 3: The thing that people said about Joe in Baltimore. He's

696
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:27,480
Speaker 3: Joe cool man. He is just like he is the

697
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 3: most unfazed player perhaps in NFL history, Like it'd be

698
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 3: a real tight race between he and Eli Manning and

699
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 3: guys who just let everything just wash right over him

700
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 3: and they come out totally fine.

701
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 2: Like that.

702
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 3: You could tell him, you could yell out, you can

703
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 3: do whatever you want. He's like, it's cool. I'm gonna

704
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 3: go out there as long as I got another series.

705
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 3: We got another chance. And so that's what I thought

706
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 3: was really cool. And like the symmetry this was kind

707
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 3: of funny. I mean, they're down seventeen to seven going

708
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 3: into the fourth quarter. Last fourth quarter comeback of Joe

709
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:57,360
Speaker 3: Flacco's career was in Cleveland as a member of the

710
00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:59,400
Speaker 3: Jets right.

711
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:01,880
Speaker 4: Early this sea, which is kind of funny to think about.

712
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 3: I mean, like some of the again, I think the

713
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:07,720
Speaker 3: first time he started, we had this conversation like he

714
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 3: might be thirty eight years old. That dude has not

715
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 3: lost a single Iota off his fastball. In terms of

716
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 3: arm talent, he still can throw it anywhere he wants

717
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 3: to throw it. The deep ball is as good as

718
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 3: any in the league. And the throw he made to

719
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 3: a Marii Cooper on the deep over route was as

720
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:25,719
Speaker 3: competitively eric, competitively arrogant as I think we've seen this season.

721
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 3: I mean, it was like three guys had a shot

722
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 3: to pick the ball off. Somehow it slips in between

723
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 3: all of them. Mariy Cooper ends up turning up field

724
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 3: and going down to score and make it seventeen to

725
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 3: seven and tie the thing up. And then look, here's

726
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 3: the other thing that we'll say about Joe Flacco, and

727
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 3: it's probably part of the reason why he's no longer

728
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 3: with some of the teams that he was at, is

729
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 3: he puts the ball in peril like put He makes

730
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 3: some throws, really and there was a few of them

731
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 3: in this game, and a couple of them in overtime

732
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 3: that might have gotten him. But but again he's like,

733
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 3: all right, you know what, that didn't go well. Next

734
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 3: one bang and leads them down there and they find

735
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:01,080
Speaker 3: a way to get get that field goal, go up

736
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 3: and win that game. I mean, thank goodness that there

737
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 3: was a drop on a hail mary that might have

738
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 3: ended the fun for the Browns. Bear should have won

739
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 3: the game on the last play on the hail mary,

740
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:14,520
Speaker 3: but they.

741
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 4: Dropped it still.

742
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:17,600
Speaker 3: But look, Flackell gives him a chance, Bucky. That's what

743
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 3: I'll say about what he does for the Browns.

744
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like he does give them a chance, and he

745
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 2: also gives them confidence, Like there's a belief that this

746
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:27,600
Speaker 2: team has with the veteran with his experience, that he's

747
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 2: going to help them win games. And that is just

748
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:33,000
Speaker 2: enough to umbold in that defense to play at a

749
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:35,360
Speaker 2: high level. When I look at the defense, and it's

750
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 2: funny because I've been able to watch the two top

751
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:39,840
Speaker 2: defenses in back to back weeks. They go about their

752
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:42,680
Speaker 2: business in different ways. Baltimore, we talked about a little

753
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:45,720
Speaker 2: smoke and mirrors, a little organized chaos. The Browns that

754
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 2: just say, man, we're better than you. We're not gonna

755
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:50,040
Speaker 2: looking around like we got the best pass rushing football.

756
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 2: We're gonna put him in a wide and not let

757
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 2: him go. We're gonna play man to man outside and

758
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 2: we're gonna say we're gonna bring an additional guy and oh,

759
00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 2: DJ j Okay is every bit as good as we

760
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 2: thought he would be. Oh he's coming out, having a

761
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 2: chance to watch him up. Dude is an animal. And

762
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 2: they don't even say, hey, he's a safety. No, he's

763
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:12,400
Speaker 2: a linebacker. He's gonna play linebacker. He gets. It's just

764
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 2: another example like sometimes we outsmart ourselves and saying hey

765
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:18,719
Speaker 2: exists and that the guy is what he does on

766
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:21,560
Speaker 2: tape and Jim Swartz and the defense they allow him

767
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:23,879
Speaker 2: to get after. This is a really good Brown team

768
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:26,839
Speaker 2: and the quarterback has just stabilized him enough to give

769
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:28,920
Speaker 2: them a chance to make some noise in the tournament.

770
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,359
Speaker 3: Just when they need it DJ because in the fourth

771
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 3: quarter they were without four of their five starting offensive linemen,

772
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 3: four of the five, in addition to the other injuries

773
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:40,319
Speaker 3: that they've had at the running back spot and all that.

774
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 4: So just keep that in mind too.

775
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 1: What j Oka was that twenty twenty.

776
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel like it was. It was the COVID

777
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:48,600
Speaker 4: Draft where he had that.

778
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:52,920
Speaker 3: I mean that that kickoff still flashes in my mind

779
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 3: from when he's uh, when he's running down on kickoff

780
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:58,840
Speaker 3: against Duke in that opener, trying to find.

781
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:02,720
Speaker 1: This Yeah, uh, I mean, wait, was it twenty twenty

782
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:04,440
Speaker 1: one or twenty twenty.

783
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:06,399
Speaker 4: It was twenty one, twenty one, twenty one.

784
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:08,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, I see him in twenty twenty. Let me look

785
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:10,239
Speaker 1: up twenty twenty one, because this is I always am.

786
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 4: Well. It was one of those picks because it was

787
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:14,439
Speaker 4: Cleveland draft had.

788
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:17,279
Speaker 1: The heart He had the heart issue, right, which he

789
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 1: was My gosh, he was my fifteenth overall player.

790
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 4: We all had him in the first round.

791
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 1: Fifteenth.

792
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:24,879
Speaker 4: Yeah, we all had him in the first round.

793
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 1: The notes off all fluid, twitchy, run and chase some

794
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 1: stand up on the edge. They'll run games. He can

795
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 1: cover in the flat and cover tight ends. He beats blockers,

796
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:37,440
Speaker 1: the spots, extremely fluid. Yeah, and it was that. It

797
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:40,400
Speaker 1: was just that that heart thing, right, if I'm remembering.

798
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 3: Whatever the injury it was Andrew whatever it was an

799
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 3: illness or an industry Yeah right, yeah.

800
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 2: He had that. But I just remember, like even the

801
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:49,840
Speaker 2: conversation was still about like, hey is he stated that

802
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:51,239
Speaker 2: we have to move Hi from mine back to the

803
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 2: safety of the pot because he wasn't the old school.

804
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 3: It was a thing.

805
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:56,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, But I but I can tell you, man, that

806
00:35:57,040 --> 00:36:00,200
Speaker 2: dude played like his hairs on fire and DJ when

807
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:03,280
Speaker 2: he hits. He hits people to hurt, like he somebody

808
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:04,799
Speaker 2: near the sideline in front of me, and I was like,

809
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:07,279
Speaker 2: oh I clean, you know. I clutched my parl like, oh,

810
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 2: I don't don't comfort far like asking this to him

811
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:17,279
Speaker 2: that you like And I'm telling you, playing the Browns

812
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:20,239
Speaker 2: up there in the dog Town they played with an

813
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:23,279
Speaker 2: edginess to him that is beyond believe. This look as

814
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:26,759
Speaker 2: a really well constructed defense with high end players and

815
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 2: Grand Delfic who just signed the extension. He's even been

816
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 2: better than I think some people thought, because there was

817
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 2: some questions about his physicality and tackling. Yeah. I think

818
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:39,280
Speaker 2: sometimes peer pressure can make you become a more physical

819
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 2: player because you don't want to be the guy that

820
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:42,360
Speaker 2: singled out in this film room session.

821
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 1: All right, I'm gonna uh, I'm gonna cut ret loose,

822
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:47,399
Speaker 1: not so we can follow Tom Allen to Penn State.

823
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go handle some other some other business. Yeah,

824
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:56,400
Speaker 1: we go, have you guys choose. By the way, who

825
00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:57,920
Speaker 1: did you hire? Did you guys hire anybody?

826
00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:00,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, Kurt Signetti jam, Oh yeah.

827
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right, that's that's right. I like that higher yeh,

828
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:05,279
Speaker 1: Coach stake. Go go, go on your way. We want

829
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 1: Ohio State. I thought that was a bad move. Anyways,

830
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:10,839
Speaker 1: go ahead, see it all right, So let's let's jam

831
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 1: through these games. Buck, we've kind of taken some time here,

832
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 1: we can kind of go a little more rapid fire here. Uh,

833
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:20,239
Speaker 1: here's a funny story. So the Bills they beat the

834
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 1: Cowboys thirty one to ten. So I don't know if

835
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:24,359
Speaker 1: you I don't know if I told this. I don't

836
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:25,719
Speaker 1: know if I told you this.

837
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:29,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, you told me, and then you change them.

838
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 1: Solid exact score exactly.

839
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:41,640
Speaker 2: You tweaked it. Yeah, you had the right thing. Yeah,

840
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 2: I put it in.

841
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:46,799
Speaker 1: I sent in thirty one thirty Buffalo, and it got

842
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 1: posted on the YouTube pages thirty one to ten Buffalo,

843
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:53,440
Speaker 1: and the Cowboy fans were wearing me out, this idiot,

844
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:55,239
Speaker 1: and then a couple of them. I went through and

845
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:57,360
Speaker 1: I liked them. Last night. I was just curious to

846
00:37:57,400 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 1: go back to read some of these tweets. If that

847
00:37:59,880 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 1: was the score, I'll delete all my social media. So

848
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:08,839
Speaker 1: I send shopping at text. I'm like, dude, you're killing me. Man.

849
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 1: I said thirty one thirty, not thirty one to ten.

850
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 1: And then what's the final score of the game thirty

851
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:17,360
Speaker 1: one to I should have just let it ride. It

852
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 1: would have been the greatest prediction that I didn't make

853
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:20,799
Speaker 1: of all time.

854
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 2: So we've said this, and I said this, watching the

855
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:28,719
Speaker 2: Bills do not allow the Buffalo Bills to get into

856
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 2: the postseason because when you re said, the records of

857
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 2: zero zero, all of the confidence that they will have

858
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:38,480
Speaker 2: built to get into it makes them a very dangerous team.

859
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:41,839
Speaker 2: They're dangerous because the quarterback is a one man show.

860
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:46,840
Speaker 2: And DJ what the Bills have discovered James Cook.

861
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 1: James would oh, James Cook, Yeah, no question, no question.

862
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 1: I went through and watched all those explosives. Buck. So

863
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 1: the offensive line played really well too. Morse is pull

864
00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 1: he pulls on one of them. They're pulling like crazy.

865
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 1: Dawkins pulls on another one of the explosives. Spencer Brown,

866
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 1: the right tackle, working up to the linebacker. They pull Brown,

867
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:09,279
Speaker 1: They pull Brown again. The burst, the change of direction,

868
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 1: they run a nifty little counter. It's just kind of

869
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:13,959
Speaker 1: everything's just going lottering, lottery, lottery. All A sudden foot

870
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:15,879
Speaker 1: in the ground and he's coming back the other way.

871
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:18,759
Speaker 1: A little misdirection, but he got dang. He looks just

872
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:21,880
Speaker 1: like his brother. He looks just like a young Dalvin Cook.

873
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 1: The way he's moving, it's eerie. It's eerie how similar

874
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:27,960
Speaker 1: they looked. But the offensive line, I think their offensive

875
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:30,480
Speaker 1: line built more to run than they are to pass protect.

876
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 2: I think so too, And I think in discovering the run,

877
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:36,440
Speaker 2: what they will do is they'll unlock the big plays

878
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 2: in the passing game because they'll get people out of

879
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 2: those two high looks. They'll get more one on one coverage,

880
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:44,760
Speaker 2: which to create opportunities for Stefan Diggs to get loose.

881
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:47,359
Speaker 2: And what they also would do by running the ball,

882
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:49,719
Speaker 2: they'll be able to distract people with Josh Allen would

883
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:53,439
Speaker 2: be a more effective runner. It's a team that look

884
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:56,840
Speaker 2: season is a long winding roads. They're kind of coming

885
00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 2: into their own at the right time. Indeed, they did

886
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 2: the opp ortunity for the team to find itself as

887
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:05,719
Speaker 2: the AFC East champion if they just take care of

888
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:07,880
Speaker 2: their business down the streets. Miami has a tough slate

889
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 2: coming up, so it's there for the Buffalo Bills to

890
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:13,719
Speaker 2: get in, and they get in, haven't help anybody who

891
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:14,880
Speaker 2: has to face them in the postseason.

892
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 1: So I was thinking about this and this is uh.

893
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:23,759
Speaker 1: I think because of our age and growing up in

894
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:27,480
Speaker 1: the same era, you will you'll be with me on this.

895
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:31,480
Speaker 1: If there is there a lyric when you're watching the Cowboys?

896
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 1: Is there a eighties nineties rap lyric from Public Enemy

897
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 1: that gets in your head when you watch the Cowboys?

898
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:46,799
Speaker 1: Can't trust it? Can you just hear a flavor flame?

899
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:48,759
Speaker 1: Can just hear a flavor flavors? Every time I watch it?

900
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:50,000
Speaker 1: Can't trust it?

901
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:55,879
Speaker 2: You know? Man, Just when they lure you in, right

902
00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:58,320
Speaker 2: they become the talk of the town. They become the

903
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:01,120
Speaker 2: talk of what everyone is saying. This team can do it.

904
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:04,120
Speaker 2: This team is going to go to the Super Bowl. YadA, YadA, YadA.

905
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:08,359
Speaker 2: They let you down. And you know, the one thing

906
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:11,759
Speaker 2: about it is to win in the NFC long term,

907
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:13,320
Speaker 2: they're gonna have to be able to beat the bullies.

908
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:15,880
Speaker 2: And right now, when people make it a line of

909
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:19,239
Speaker 2: scrimmage game, a game where it's about toughness and physicality,

910
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:21,880
Speaker 2: the Cowboys have not being able to weather the storm.

911
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 2: Until they're able to beat people up in these tightly

912
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:31,120
Speaker 2: contested physical affairs, they won't be able to represent the

913
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:34,719
Speaker 2: AFC because you're gonna have to deal with Detroit, San Francisco. Look,

914
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:36,759
Speaker 2: Philadelphia is taking a step back, but still you got

915
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:38,920
Speaker 2: to deal with Philly. If Philly decides that they want

916
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 2: to be the physical ball club again, they can make

917
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 2: life miserable for the Cowboys. The Cowboys have to figure

918
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:45,279
Speaker 2: that and there's no way to kind of like a

919
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 2: wipe this one away. The Buffalo Bills had their way

920
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:51,719
Speaker 2: with him. And when people see that James cook land

921
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 2: for one hundred and steven, what do you think.

922
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:57,400
Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan thinks when he watches that tape did Christian

923
00:41:57,480 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 1: McCaffrey and offensive line?

924
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:01,239
Speaker 2: They're just going to line up and teams are gonna

925
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:02,840
Speaker 2: line up and they're gonna run it at them and

926
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:06,400
Speaker 2: they're gonna see, hey, man, can you answer the question

927
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:08,799
Speaker 2: that ain execution? It's gonna be effort and toughness.

928
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 1: They ran one of those right at Michael Parsons and

929
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:13,920
Speaker 1: he just dipped right underneath the block and it was like, oh,

930
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 1: that was easy, just captured the edge. Jabril Cox got

931
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:19,400
Speaker 1: wiped off the face of the earth on one of

932
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:21,800
Speaker 1: them by Spencer Brown and then talking to the left

933
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:25,240
Speaker 1: the left tackle. That play made its circulation on social

934
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:27,279
Speaker 1: media of him driving Son you remember who it was

935
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:29,919
Speaker 1: driving some dude into the end zone. And I'm sitting

936
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:32,840
Speaker 1: here going like the Buffalo Bills on the if the

937
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:35,279
Speaker 1: Niners are a ten, the Bills are a six, Like,

938
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:37,560
Speaker 1: this is a whole other level that you're gonna get

939
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:38,720
Speaker 1: moved around by that group.

940
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:41,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, a whole another level. And so you have to

941
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:43,560
Speaker 2: get ready. So for Dallas, Cowboy, they're gonna go back

942
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:46,480
Speaker 2: to the drawing board. For the Buffalo Bills, they have

943
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:49,800
Speaker 2: to continue to keep on building on what they displayed.

944
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 2: But the discovery of the running game when you can

945
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:55,239
Speaker 2: win with Josh Allen throw them for fewer than one

946
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:57,759
Speaker 2: hundred yards. Oh man, you got all kinds of stuff

947
00:42:57,800 --> 00:42:58,319
Speaker 2: that you can build.

948
00:42:58,320 --> 00:42:59,360
Speaker 1: Did you see his analogy?

949
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:00,279
Speaker 4: You see?

950
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 2: Yeah?

951
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:04,320
Speaker 1: Classic, I got an A on a group project. I

952
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:05,240
Speaker 1: didn't even do anything.

953
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 2: But look, give him credit for being able to self aware.

954
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 1: Man. He's that's why he's a freaking so likable man

955
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 1: because he has high highs and he has some low lows.

956
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 1: But he doesn't hog all the credit and he's quick

957
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:21,919
Speaker 1: to own all the blame. Like that's what you want

958
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 1: from your quarterback? Man, all right, we can keep it

959
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:29,440
Speaker 1: scooting here. Bengals vikings Man. That was interesting one. Huh.

960
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:32,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was interesting because the Vikers were up seventeen three.

961
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:34,320
Speaker 2: They were dominating. The way Mike barn Floor is in

962
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:38,280
Speaker 2: the defense was really making life difficult for Jake Browning.

963
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:40,439
Speaker 2: But here's what I'm there and everyone to talk about

964
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:43,040
Speaker 2: Jake Browning and how well he's played. He has played

965
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:45,880
Speaker 2: will but I would also say the being of supporting

966
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:49,239
Speaker 2: cast makes it where backup quarterback can fry. Like when

967
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:51,799
Speaker 2: you have superior talent on the outside, it just makes

968
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:54,880
Speaker 2: the job a lot easier for the quarterback to have success.

969
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:56,719
Speaker 2: Jack Taylor, it took him a couple of weeks to

970
00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 2: figure out how to play with Jake brown But what Browning,

971
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:04,040
Speaker 2: But what they've done is screen game, vertical game, being

972
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:06,279
Speaker 2: able to just put the players in isolated situation and

973
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 2: encourage Brownie to make those throws. T Higgins just took

974
00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:12,440
Speaker 2: it over because that was a no, no, no, no,

975
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:18,520
Speaker 2: no touchdown to go up. Damn it. Brownie has the edge,

976
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:21,759
Speaker 2: he's been smart with the ball, but their players and

977
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:24,880
Speaker 2: the talent that they've kind of put on that offensive

978
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:28,440
Speaker 2: lineup allows him to play well and allows this offense

979
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:30,720
Speaker 2: to even drive without Joe Burrow.

980
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:35,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt in the vikings from where they were

981
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 1: with kind of the feel good story with Josh Dobbs

982
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:40,359
Speaker 1: not that long ago, Nick Mullens. In this game, look

983
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 1: if you were three hundred yards and a couple of

984
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:44,640
Speaker 1: touchdowns but did have the two picks, but they were

985
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:46,400
Speaker 1: we were talking about, man, they might have found a

986
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:48,799
Speaker 1: cheap quarterback of the future with Dobbs. Maybe he's going

987
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:50,920
Speaker 1: to cost half as much as what Cousins is going

988
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 1: to get now. I think kind of watching this team

989
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 1: play out and knowing how your team's built. Jordan Addison

990
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:57,760
Speaker 1: had a great game in this game with two touchdowns.

991
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 1: Obviously with Jefferson, to me, Kirk is he not going anywhere?

992
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 1: Like they've got to figure out a way to make

993
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 1: that work.

994
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:04,960
Speaker 4: Well.

995
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 2: I think after playing with other quarterbacks, Kevin O'Connor probably

996
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:12,319
Speaker 2: has a higher value evaluation of Kirk Cousins over some

997
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:15,160
Speaker 2: of the other guys because without Kirk Cousins, he's limited

998
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:17,400
Speaker 2: in terms of how much he can how much of

999
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:20,000
Speaker 2: the playbook he can use. Kirk gave him that ability

1000
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:22,239
Speaker 2: to do it. And when you look at this team

1001
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:24,319
Speaker 2: and you look at the strides that they've made with

1002
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:27,200
Speaker 2: the defense and those things like they appear to be ready.

1003
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 2: The big thing will be going forward. How do they

1004
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:36,160
Speaker 2: continue it if Brian Floyd isn't there. The defense has

1005
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:39,480
Speaker 2: been really put together. They played well. I don't know

1006
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:41,880
Speaker 2: how why they fell apart at the end and looking

1007
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:44,440
Speaker 2: at it, I mean, just some unfortunate plays and Brown

1008
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:46,880
Speaker 2: and got hot with t Higgins making plays. But the

1009
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:50,440
Speaker 2: defense to play well. If you lose that piece, can

1010
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:53,440
Speaker 2: they continue to be a top defense? While Kevin O'Connor

1011
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:55,480
Speaker 2: is really working with this offense to get it continued

1012
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:56,719
Speaker 2: to play at a high level. But I do like

1013
00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:59,719
Speaker 2: the combination of Jeordan Addison and Justin Jefferson for the

1014
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 2: facia over the future. Two route runners that can get

1015
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:06,320
Speaker 2: open against any coverage. Those pieces look great. You just

1016
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:07,800
Speaker 2: got to figure out how you continue it with the

1017
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:09,800
Speaker 2: quarterback and then what you're gonna do with the defense

1018
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 2: if Floyd's isn't available.

1019
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:14,360
Speaker 1: No doubt. All right, bucks, Hey they beat the Packers

1020
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:16,440
Speaker 1: thirty four to twenty. This is a Baker Mayfield game.

1021
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:19,879
Speaker 1: Three hundred and eighty one yards, four touchdowns. Went back

1022
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:22,759
Speaker 1: and watched his tape buck getting guys out in the route.

1023
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 1: A lot of empty just getting five out as well

1024
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:28,400
Speaker 1: out of the backfield, letting him process quickly get the

1025
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:30,359
Speaker 1: ball out. He made some you talk about We talked

1026
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:34,560
Speaker 1: to Flacco a little earlier making some kind of confident throws,

1027
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 1: some borderline cocky throws. Baker played that way. He fits

1028
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:42,640
Speaker 1: some balls in tight windows, some steam balls that were impressive,

1029
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:46,279
Speaker 1: like triangle defenders, full confidence, let it rip, get it

1030
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:48,760
Speaker 1: in there. We talked about the Bengals in their receiving

1031
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 1: cord that they have. Even though it's getting a little

1032
00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:53,040
Speaker 1: bit older there in Tampa, Mike Evans can still get open.

1033
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:56,640
Speaker 1: He's a huge target. They did a nice job working him.

1034
00:46:57,080 --> 00:46:59,480
Speaker 1: Chris Godwin had ten for a buck fifty five in

1035
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 1: this game, so they did a nice shot for show.

1036
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:03,800
Speaker 1: White can run it. He can catch it out of

1037
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:06,840
Speaker 1: the backfield as well. So they've got some nice pieces

1038
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:10,760
Speaker 1: around him. How about our friend Jason, Like Baker, Mayfield

1039
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:12,200
Speaker 1: is twenty eight years old. You know what his cap

1040
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 1: hit is this year and considering what he's playing, one

1041
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:18,000
Speaker 1: point seven million. That's his cap hit this year on

1042
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 1: a one year day. I think it was like a

1043
00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:21,759
Speaker 1: one year like four million dollar deal. Basically, I mean,

1044
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:26,960
Speaker 1: what what a bargain basement find there for a guy who, look,

1045
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:29,000
Speaker 1: we didn't know one overall pick like you knew you

1046
00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:31,200
Speaker 1: had you have talent. I mean we say, well, okay,

1047
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:33,000
Speaker 1: maybe you should have been the tenth pick or the

1048
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:35,839
Speaker 1: twentieth pick. It was a first overall pick. You get him.

1049
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:38,279
Speaker 1: He's playing for you in his prime as a twenty

1050
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:40,759
Speaker 1: eight year old with experience in this league at one

1051
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:42,320
Speaker 1: point seven million on the cap.

1052
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:45,279
Speaker 2: And that's why you always kick the tires on guys

1053
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:47,920
Speaker 2: who were drafted hot, because it's change of scenery, a

1054
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:50,880
Speaker 2: new environment, right coaching staff, right scheme, can unlock if

1055
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:53,840
Speaker 2: the trick will be next year, what does he go?

1056
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:56,480
Speaker 2: He can't go from one point, he can't go to

1057
00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:57,799
Speaker 2: fifty Jason.

1058
00:47:57,600 --> 00:48:00,680
Speaker 1: Jason tweeted out the image of going of this. I

1059
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:03,719
Speaker 1: think he's telling himself he's gonna have to pay the guy.

1060
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:06,759
Speaker 2: I don't know he's gonna have a pan, but I'll

1061
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:10,319
Speaker 2: say this, DJ and I do wonder sometimes like we're

1062
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:13,600
Speaker 2: pro coaches and players, like the coaches watched college tape

1063
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:15,840
Speaker 2: because when Baker Mayfield was at the Best of Oklahoma,

1064
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:17,880
Speaker 2: it was very similar to the way that he played

1065
00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:20,959
Speaker 2: against the DBA Packers, get everybody out, get the ball

1066
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:22,880
Speaker 2: out quickly, let him have it, let him deal, let

1067
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:25,239
Speaker 2: them control. We talked about Joe Burrow, and now the

1068
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:27,080
Speaker 2: Bengals have been at their best when they run a

1069
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:29,440
Speaker 2: variation of l s U's offense where he put it

1070
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:32,360
Speaker 2: on me to see it now, deal or whatever. Baker

1071
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:34,560
Speaker 2: Mayfield is very similar because he had all of that

1072
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 2: control in Lincoln Raley's offense at Oklahoma. Uh, the Buccaneers,

1073
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:41,719
Speaker 2: if they can find some consistency offensively to go with

1074
00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:45,200
Speaker 2: what is still a pretty good defense, they can win

1075
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 2: in the vision. They'd be interesting to see how this

1076
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:48,480
Speaker 2: plays out with them and the New Orleans Saints and

1077
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:50,399
Speaker 2: the mantu of factors kind of took a step back

1078
00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:53,279
Speaker 2: battling out down the end to figure out who's gonna

1079
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:54,440
Speaker 2: be the winner of their division.

1080
00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:57,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, not a not a great day for the Packers.

1081
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:01,400
Speaker 1: They lose, but let's get the positive here. The rookies

1082
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:04,480
Speaker 1: Dontavin Wicks six for ninety seven, Tucker Craft four to

1083
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:06,839
Speaker 1: fifty seven and a touchdown Jayden Reid six for fifty

1084
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:09,400
Speaker 1: two in a touchdown. It might not end This season

1085
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:11,600
Speaker 1: might not end up going the way the Packers were

1086
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:13,719
Speaker 1: hoping it was going to go. But it's still a

1087
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:16,920
Speaker 1: success in my mind because the quarterback's been solid, and

1088
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:19,800
Speaker 1: they have all of these first and second year players

1089
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:22,440
Speaker 1: who are doing good things and look like real key

1090
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:25,520
Speaker 1: heat pieces of this team moving forward. So a loss

1091
00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:27,400
Speaker 1: for the Packers, but I'm not going to be discouraged,

1092
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:29,160
Speaker 1: and you shouldn't be either if you're a Packer fan.

1093
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:31,960
Speaker 1: We've got one more to get to here, Buck Colts

1094
00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:35,480
Speaker 1: Steelers in a beatdown. Colts win thirty to thirteen.

1095
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:39,759
Speaker 2: You know what's crazy about this is the Packers were

1096
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:42,680
Speaker 2: I mean the Pittsburgh Steelers were up. They were dominating

1097
00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:44,799
Speaker 2: the game early in the game. And here's what I say.

1098
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:48,360
Speaker 2: It's funny because you mentioned Chris Godwin having ten for

1099
00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:50,600
Speaker 2: a buck fifty. I think his wife had come out

1100
00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:54,239
Speaker 2: and talked about Todd bulls with disrespect and relied about

1101
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:56,839
Speaker 2: touches and those things. And you know, the squeaky will

1102
00:49:56,880 --> 00:50:00,799
Speaker 2: gets degree, but next week he gets a ton of

1103
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:03,560
Speaker 2: catches and a ton of opportunities and catches in Well,

1104
00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:07,279
Speaker 2: there's been some conversation in Pittsburgh about George Pickens and

1105
00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:10,160
Speaker 2: Johnson all those guys. Opportunities, I need the ball or whatever,

1106
00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:13,839
Speaker 2: The game actually turned on Mitchell Trubisky trying to force

1107
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:15,840
Speaker 2: a pass to George Pickens, trying to give him a

1108
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:18,160
Speaker 2: chance to make a play a fifty to fifty ball.

1109
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:21,160
Speaker 2: He doesn't come down with it, it's intercepted. And from

1110
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:26,320
Speaker 2: that point on, the Indianapolis Coat absolutely donkey kick Pittsburgh

1111
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:28,920
Speaker 2: stud Yeah, I mean they ran the football at will.

1112
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:32,480
Speaker 2: They ran the football with Trey Sermon and some other

1113
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:35,400
Speaker 2: guys like just kind of mixing in and Shane Stikeen.

1114
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:39,640
Speaker 2: They lose Michael Pittman, and what we talked about DJ,

1115
00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:41,920
Speaker 2: and we've talked about how the Indianapolis Colts are like

1116
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:44,759
Speaker 2: the Great Experiment, how they took these collection of freak

1117
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:50,880
Speaker 2: athletes and drafted them without necessarily great tape or significant

1118
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:52,879
Speaker 2: but just great athletes that they were going to put

1119
00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:55,719
Speaker 2: on the coaches to develop them. DJ the coach has

1120
00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:58,239
Speaker 2: done a really good job developing all these young un

1121
00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:01,680
Speaker 2: heralded players. I mean, they had DJ Montgomery come in

1122
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:04,160
Speaker 2: and make plays, score a touchdown. He was on practice squad,

1123
00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:07,560
Speaker 2: he had been elevated, got an opportunity, and Shane stike

1124
00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:10,960
Speaker 2: and has kind of unlocked whatever that recipe is to

1125
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:14,560
Speaker 2: developing young players they're developing those guys and they're putting

1126
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:16,960
Speaker 2: them on the field. And when we talk about front

1127
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:21,759
Speaker 2: office and coaching staff working together, when you go about, hey,

1128
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:23,759
Speaker 2: this is how we're going to do it, they're doing

1129
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:26,160
Speaker 2: it and it's worked out. And give them credit. Garner Minshew,

1130
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:29,080
Speaker 2: who I watched here in Jacksonville kind of up and down.

1131
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:32,480
Speaker 2: Stiken has done a good job of managing him. He

1132
00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:35,240
Speaker 2: still is prone to make some turnovers and those things,

1133
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:37,160
Speaker 2: but he's done a good job putting the quarterback in

1134
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:38,480
Speaker 2: a situation to be successful.

1135
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:40,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, and have an experience with him in the past

1136
00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:43,520
Speaker 1: in Philly, I think helps because you have a knowledge

1137
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:44,879
Speaker 1: of what he can and can't do, and you can

1138
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:46,520
Speaker 1: put him in a position to be successful. You're not

1139
00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:48,759
Speaker 1: trying to feel that out through the year. Oh man,

1140
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:51,080
Speaker 1: Oh we don't do that. You know, do this. They

1141
00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:53,440
Speaker 1: kind of knew what his strengths and weaknesses were, not

1142
00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:56,879
Speaker 1: helped when he was stressed into action. All right, Buck,

1143
00:51:56,920 --> 00:51:59,319
Speaker 1: we've jammed through these games, the ones we didn't have

1144
00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:02,640
Speaker 1: a chance to get who the Jets got just smashed

1145
00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:06,520
Speaker 1: by the Dolphins thirty to nothing. Dominant performance the Miami

1146
00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:08,839
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, there's a lot a lot.

1147
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:10,320
Speaker 2: Of stuff going on with that. Yeah, a lot of

1148
00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:11,600
Speaker 2: finger point that good.

1149
00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:15,359
Speaker 1: Chiefs get back, they get right against the Patriots twenty

1150
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:19,560
Speaker 1: seven seventeen Giants and Saints Giants kind of lifeless and

1151
00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:21,719
Speaker 1: that one good win for the Saints twenty four to six. Hey,

1152
00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:24,480
Speaker 1: how about the Panthers getting to win over the Atlanta Falcons.

1153
00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:27,080
Speaker 1: Is there a team that's done less with more offensively

1154
00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:28,200
Speaker 1: than the Atlanta Falcons?

1155
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:33,360
Speaker 2: By the way, I know, it's a frustration for everyone.

1156
00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:35,520
Speaker 2: People are trying to understand why John new Smith gets

1157
00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:38,360
Speaker 2: the ball of the polite of cow pits and those things.

1158
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:40,920
Speaker 2: You just I don't know, man, you just don't know.

1159
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:43,160
Speaker 2: It's just one of those things that it kind of

1160
00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:44,680
Speaker 2: plays out the way that it plays out.

1161
00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:47,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, Rams, they keep rolling. I mean to tell you

1162
00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:50,160
Speaker 1: what we talked about coaches of the year, Nobody mentioned

1163
00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:52,560
Speaker 1: Sean McVay. They get into the tournament with what the

1164
00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:55,239
Speaker 1: expectations were, he should be in the mix for that.

1165
00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:57,480
Speaker 1: He is really, I mean, not as shocked anybody. He

1166
00:52:57,560 --> 00:52:59,560
Speaker 1: is one of the elite, elite coaches in this league.

1167
00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:03,080
Speaker 1: Abbout Cardinals put up a fight score twenty nine points,

1168
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:04,960
Speaker 1: but the Niners too much and they're gonna have a

1169
00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:07,759
Speaker 1: They might be like the Heisman where you have you know,

1170
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:10,680
Speaker 1: you kind of split the vote. They might end up

1171
00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:14,200
Speaker 1: costing Perdy and McCaffrey the MVP because they're getting up

1172
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:15,960
Speaker 1: split in the vote between the two of them and somebody,

1173
00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:17,799
Speaker 1: some third party is gonna sneak in there and end

1174
00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:20,520
Speaker 1: up winning that thing. But those guys are both playing

1175
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:23,520
Speaker 1: at an elite, elite level. And then in a game

1176
00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:27,839
Speaker 1: that featured Sean Payton just looked like he was just

1177
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:30,479
Speaker 1: going after Russell Wilson on the sideline of that game,

1178
00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:33,560
Speaker 1: they that ride came to a little bit of a

1179
00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:37,680
Speaker 1: halt there as they got they got handled by the Lions.

1180
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:40,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't necessarily like the way that DA plays out.

1181
00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:43,600
Speaker 2: Like it's one thing to have nocon and whatever like that.

1182
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:45,759
Speaker 2: You know, all the cameras always gonna be on a Champagne. No,

1183
00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:47,840
Speaker 2: all the cameras are gonna be on me addressing that

1184
00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:49,640
Speaker 2: unless it's a mess, and not just to Rustle but

1185
00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:51,799
Speaker 2: to the rest of the team. To me, like it's

1186
00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:54,920
Speaker 2: a fine line between like demanding and demeaning, And it

1187
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:57,080
Speaker 2: almost looked like it was demeaning Russe Wilson in front

1188
00:53:57,120 --> 00:53:57,520
Speaker 2: of the crew.

1189
00:53:58,160 --> 00:54:01,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't care for it either. All right, we'll

1190
00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:05,399
Speaker 1: be back with five more episodes this week, so we're

1191
00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:07,759
Speaker 1: gonna have a bunch more content coming your way. Six

1192
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:09,879
Speaker 1: show week, which I think might be a first for us.

1193
00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:13,640
Speaker 1: We have the video show that is four pm on Tuesday,

1194
00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:16,560
Speaker 1: that's four pm Pacific. That's on the NFL Fast Channel,

1195
00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:20,600
Speaker 1: So a lot more football coming your way. Appreciate you

1196
00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:22,480
Speaker 1: guys hanging with us next time, and we'll see it

1197
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:30,840
Speaker 1: tomorrow right here on. Move the sticks.