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Speaker 1: From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is

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Speaker 1: riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or

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Speaker 1: learn the stuff they don't want you to know. A

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Speaker 1: production of I Heart Radio. Hello, and welcome back to

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Speaker 1: the show. My name is Noel. Our compatriot Matt is

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Speaker 1: a way but will return soon. Nig called me Ben.

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Speaker 1: We're joined as always with our super producer Paul Michig

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Speaker 1: controlled decade. Most importantly, you are you, You are here,

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Speaker 1: and that makes this stuff they don't want you to know.

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Speaker 1: This episode will be of particular interest to our fellow

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Speaker 1: conspiracy realists out west in Nevada or Nevada. It's pronounced

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Speaker 1: a couple of different ways. No, you're a Nevada. You're

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Speaker 1: a Nevada guy, right, You know. I don't have occasion

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Speaker 1: Nevada Nevada. Nevada feels like a Midwestern thing for some reason.

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Speaker 1: To me. The first person I met from Nevada was

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Speaker 1: adamant that it was pronounced Nevada. So we're just gonna

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Speaker 1: get that out of the way. That's the subject of

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Speaker 1: today's episode. Uh, this is something This is something different.

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Speaker 1: It takes place in the great state of Nevada, but

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Speaker 1: it raises a question that we've talked about off air

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Speaker 1: big question while we touch on several important things here

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Speaker 1: um regarding some of the state's plans, and we're asking

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Speaker 1: bold new era of sci fi dystopia, or if it's

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Speaker 1: in fact a return to conspiracies we have seen in

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Speaker 1: the past. We're talking about something you may have heard of.

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Speaker 1: They have a relatively innocuous theme. They're called innovation zones.

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Speaker 1: Does sound great, don't what's wrong with that? Innovation sounds

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Speaker 1: good as a zone, you know, I want to I

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Speaker 1: want to live there. That sounds cool. Yeah, it reminds

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Speaker 1: me of Discovery Zone. That's exactly right. Are there trampolines?

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Speaker 1: That's what I want to know. If there's trampolines I'm

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Speaker 1: in there may be there may be if you can

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Speaker 1: count a new type of trampoline as innovative technology, We'll

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Speaker 1: find out. Like the thing is for a lot of people,

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Speaker 1: city of sin We've we've all been there. You've been

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Speaker 1: Casino pretty much like that, right, Yeah, yeah, you've got it.

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Speaker 1: It's a Vegas is an incredibly fascinating town on a

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Speaker 1: You know, if we didn't have the Hoover Dam, we

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Speaker 1: be home to thirty six thousand permanent residents, and eventually

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Speaker 1: they plan to employ one out of every fifty residents

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Speaker 1: of the state of Nevada, which, yeah, which would account

431
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:09,920
Speaker 1: for almost two percent of wages produced in the entire state,

432
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:12,640
Speaker 1: which doesn't sound like a lot, And so you realize

433
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:16,080
Speaker 1: it's the entire state. It's two percent of a very

434
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:20,520
Speaker 1: very big number. And I know, I know what we're

435
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:24,159
Speaker 1: thinking some of our fellow conspiracy realists in the crowd today,

436
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:27,879
Speaker 1: maybe the some of the more ambitious of us. I

437
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 1: don't know what the problem is, Guys, this sounds fantastic.

438
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 1: Can I start an innovation zone. We'll talk a little

439
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 1: bit more about that after the break and we're back.

440
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:47,080
Speaker 1: So for some of the some of those of us

441
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,920
Speaker 1: in the crowd today who consider themselves maybe a little

442
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:54,360
Speaker 1: more proactive, more go gettish, you may have already started

443
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:58,919
Speaker 1: thinking just like Bender and Futurama. Yeah, I'll start my

444
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:02,360
Speaker 1: own government with Blackjack and other vices, et cetera. Which

445
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 1: is funny because the Vegas already has those, and your

446
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:07,439
Speaker 1: question is how do I get started? Well, first you

447
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 1: have to find the land. You have to have control

448
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:16,639
Speaker 1: of fifty thousand contiguous acres of undeveloped property, and it

449
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:20,200
Speaker 1: has to be located in a single county. There can't

450
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 1: be any permanent residence there at the time, and it

451
00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:28,600
Speaker 1: can't be part of any pre existing city, town or

452
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 1: what they call governmental division established by law, So you

453
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:35,320
Speaker 1: can't take over an existing town. You have to build

454
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 1: it from scratch, and you have to submit an application,

455
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:42,280
Speaker 1: of course, because it's you know, government bureaucracy. Next, you're

456
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:46,600
Speaker 1: gonna need to include nine different things on your application

457
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:49,200
Speaker 1: to the Governor's Office of Economic Development, and that's stuff

458
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:52,720
Speaker 1: like a plan for Future Development UH an estimate for

459
00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:57,880
Speaker 1: construction and future employment documents that prove that you have

460
00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:02,400
Speaker 1: sufficient funds to invest UM two fifty million just to

461
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:06,760
Speaker 1: start and a billion over ten years UM an economic

462
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:10,960
Speaker 1: impact statement certification that a qualified developer has UH gotten

463
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:16,520
Speaker 1: and held UM or or can obtain access to public

464
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:20,880
Speaker 1: utilities and natural resources that are needed to complete the project.

465
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 1: And then you also have to kind of specialize. Each

466
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 1: zone has to be tied like we've been saying kind

467
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 1: of from the start to a very specific industry or

468
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 1: more specifically innovative technology and be able to levy that

469
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 1: uh or be able to levy an industry specific tax

470
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 1: that we also mentioned earlier, things like robotics, AI, biometrics,

471
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:51,960
Speaker 1: you know, biomedical technology, clean energy, um, you know, all

472
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:56,600
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. Yeah, autonomous vehicles would be another one.

473
00:29:56,760 --> 00:30:00,200
Speaker 1: All all of these things that you hear about in

474
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 1: tech specific TED talks. Honestly, so let's say get all

475
00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:09,239
Speaker 1: this done and you get approved. Boom boom boom. You

476
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:15,160
Speaker 1: also gain control over things that a county level government

477
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:20,720
Speaker 1: or municipality would ordinarily control. As your new corporate county grows,

478
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:26,160
Speaker 1: you can just let the existing Nevada county know when

479
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 1: you're ready. You don't have a hard timeline. You just

480
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 1: let them know when you feel like taking on the

481
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:38,120
Speaker 1: responsibilities of having a police force or firefighters, wastewater treatment, healthcare,

482
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:44,160
Speaker 1: get this, a judicial system in education, and eventually, when

483
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:48,560
Speaker 1: the zone is ready, they will assume all of the

484
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Speaker 1: authority of the existing county in which they reside. That

485
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:55,960
Speaker 1: means that at some point the innovation zone itself is

486
00:30:56,040 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 1: no longer subject to county ordinances. What about once there

487
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 1: are a hundred eligible permanent residents living in that zone,

488
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:08,960
Speaker 1: the zone can organize its own elections. And in the

489
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 1: case of blockchains proposed city specifically because of the nature

490
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 1: of their innovation, it's paving the way to have its

491
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:23,120
Speaker 1: own currency. So I imagine, you know, imagine a hundred

492
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 1: and twenty years from now, you find yourself traveling to Nevada,

493
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 1: you stop by Painted Rock, which is going to be

494
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 1: the name of their city, and you find that your

495
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 1: you know, your U S dollars or your Paul pounds

496
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 1: or whatever they'll end up being called at that time

497
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:44,120
Speaker 1: have to be converted because every store, every every store,

498
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:48,479
Speaker 1: every shop, every place in the zone only accepts payment

499
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 1: and stable coin. They haven't said that's gonna happen. It's

500
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 1: just a possibility, and to me it is darkly hilarious. Uh.

501
00:31:56,880 --> 00:32:00,120
Speaker 1: But that's the other question too, you know, is this

502
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 1: moving forward right to the future, whether for good or

503
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 1: for ill, or is this simply returning to an idea

504
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:12,720
Speaker 1: we've tried in the past. It reminds me of a

505
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:17,920
Speaker 1: story that's um maybe not too familiar to some of

506
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 1: our folks in the audience today, but years ago when

507
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 1: I was hosting a wonderful little show called car Stuff.

508
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 1: We went on a road rally together, and one of

509
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 1: the things that that road rally led us to was

510
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 1: a night in a real life corporate run town, or

511
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 1: was corporate run at one point. It was Hershey, Pennsylvania, Yes,

512
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 1: run by the Hershey Chocolate company. Remember that place They

513
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 1: had the car museum of course, of course it was wonderful,

514
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 1: great car museum, really wonderful trip the old road rally.

515
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 1: I've actually found a couzy from that road rally the

516
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 1: other day, and it brought back fond memories. It makes

517
00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 1: me think of things though. I mean again, this idea

518
00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 1: that about to put forward is maybe a little of

519
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 1: an extreme example, but it's like mining towns and like

520
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 1: the company store and all that, you know, where you

521
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 1: work for the same and are paid for the same

522
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 1: people that sell you the things that you need to

523
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 1: to survive, which inherently has this kind of conflict of

524
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:19,240
Speaker 1: interest vibe, which this does too, Like, you know, it

525
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:22,520
Speaker 1: feels like they have a little too much control, uh,

526
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 1: And the idea of you know, they're collecting the taxes

527
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 1: that are being taken out of your pay it's weird.

528
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 1: Right like it seeing I don't know, maybe maybe I'm

529
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 1: being alarmist, but it just seems like it's going right

530
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 1: back into their coffers in a way that's a little

531
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:45,200
Speaker 1: bit strange. So you see it more as a kind

532
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:49,960
Speaker 1: of like resurrection of the idea of the company town.

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00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:53,320
Speaker 1: That's what the sixteen tons song is about. And this

534
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 1: hers was a company town. Um there. There have been

535
00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 1: many of these throughout American history. You can visit them.

536
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 1: You can visit them now as kind of historical sites, right,

537
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:10,080
Speaker 1: But back in the day, it wasn't super uncommon for, uh,

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00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 1: the entirety of a town's population, working population to be

539
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:18,120
Speaker 1: employed by the same company. And that same company also

540
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:22,240
Speaker 1: owned all the stores, all the places you could spend

541
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 1: your money. They also, in a very real way, own

542
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:27,319
Speaker 1: the money. You weren't paid in US currency, you were

543
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 1: paid in what was called script, right, So they were

544
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:34,400
Speaker 1: they were economically locking the residents of a town in

545
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:38,719
Speaker 1: and exercising great control over their day to day activities,

546
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:42,640
Speaker 1: even if they were not on the clock. And from

547
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 1: the perspective of Nevada's government, this is a powerful tax

548
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:50,799
Speaker 1: in sentence, it's a way to prime the pump and

549
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 1: help residents. Who I mean, it's inarguable help residents who

550
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:59,759
Speaker 1: desperately need new, reliable sources of long term employment. But

551
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 1: how far does this plan go? How much mission creep

552
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:06,840
Speaker 1: slips in? Here? Are future citizens of Nevada going to

553
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 1: find themselves becoming citizens of a corporation more so than

554
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:14,399
Speaker 1: a state? Uh? There there are two. There are two

555
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 1: other disturbing facts here. Save for the end. It doesn't

556
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:22,719
Speaker 1: help the image or the optics that the pr people

557
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:27,800
Speaker 1: would call it. Uh that block Chain's LLC donated heavily

558
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 1: to Governor Sizzle Act during the last campaign cycle. They

559
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 1: gave the man sixty grand for his campaign. Uh. And

560
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:40,400
Speaker 1: critics will also tell you that Nevada politicians are kind

561
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:44,240
Speaker 1: of easy, easily influenced, or they have a lower price tag.

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00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 1: And then you know, Nevada already does have a lot

563
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 1: of land deals with big corporations. The second one we

564
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:55,879
Speaker 1: have to get to is who who makes the day

565
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 1: to day decisions in this zone. Technically it's not the

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00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 1: CEO Blockchains unless that CEO is one of the board

567
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:10,759
Speaker 1: members running the zone. There's a three person board that

568
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:15,759
Speaker 1: has to run every single innovation zone that's created. Is

569
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:19,279
Speaker 1: the board elected No, they're not elected. If you live

570
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 1: in the zone, you have no control over who lives,

571
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:26,880
Speaker 1: he dies. He tells your story. Who runs your government.

572
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 1: The three people who ultimately make the decisions are appointed.

573
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:35,240
Speaker 1: They're not elected by you. So who are these people?

574
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 1: And it's funny too. I mean, like I said on

575
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 1: the that that press conference of the zoom thing, the

576
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:43,880
Speaker 1: governor is just evangelizing for these people, you know, and

577
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 1: when you find out that the you know, that sixty

578
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:52,880
Speaker 1: K donation from this corporation to the governor, and you

579
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 1: see how this rosie a picture he's painting given all

580
00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:59,440
Speaker 1: of the Again, I don't think we're being alarmist here.

581
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:04,440
Speaker 1: I think there are real potential pitfalls here, as we

582
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 1: know when every every time you the more power you

583
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:10,880
Speaker 1: give corporations are, the more closer things come to a monopoly,

584
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 1: the less individuals benefit. It seems to me it's more like,

585
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:17,360
Speaker 1: you know, the people at the very very top benefit.

586
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:20,480
Speaker 1: And and sure, you know, Amazon is great, we can

587
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 1: get like stuff in five seconds, you know, crap that

588
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:25,359
Speaker 1: we don't need. But at the end of the day,

589
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:28,279
Speaker 1: it is like almost monopoly like. And I'm sorry, I'm

590
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:29,920
Speaker 1: not trying to go to off the track here. But

591
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 1: to me, Amazon started to feel like a company store

592
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 1: kind of situation too, when they get so big and

593
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 1: they literally just start taking over swaths of like whole towns.

594
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:42,920
Speaker 1: It reminds me of like the Augusta National in Augusta, Georgia,

595
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:44,759
Speaker 1: for example, which is where I grew upviously obviously his

596
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 1: famous golf course. They for years, we're just trying to

597
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 1: buy up every piece of property around that golf course.

598
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 1: And there were a few loan holdouts, but they've got time,

599
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:57,239
Speaker 1: and they ultimately got what they wanted, and now I

600
00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 1: can't even recognize my hometown anymore. All feels golf Disney World, um,

601
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 1: because they still they still kept those sandwiches, but that's

602
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:10,360
Speaker 1: just all the mythology and the smoke and mirrors and

603
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 1: then of the masters. It's like, oh, we're folks, see

604
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 1: and it's like, oh, we have egg salad sandwiches for

605
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 1: a dollar or whatever. Yeah, okay, um, But you know

606
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying that like, when you get to

607
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:22,359
Speaker 1: a point where you have so much money you can

608
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:25,719
Speaker 1: throw around, you really can own pretty much whatever you

609
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 1: want exactly. It's not it's not hard to get politicians

610
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:33,799
Speaker 1: to fall in line, right, and that's where that's that's

611
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 1: what I'm getting to when I'm talking about this three

612
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:39,800
Speaker 1: person board, because we don't know there aren't specific people

613
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 1: elected to the board, because this is just draft legislation.

614
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 1: It's a proposal. It hasn't gone through yet. But here's

615
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:49,920
Speaker 1: how it breaks out. There are three people running the board.

616
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 1: One of them is appointed by the governor, which would

617
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:57,360
Speaker 1: be SIZZLAC. At this point, the company gets to appoint

618
00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:03,279
Speaker 1: the other two members. Where is far past any other

619
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:07,880
Speaker 1: conflict of interests that we've talked about before. This reminds

620
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:10,719
Speaker 1: me like of one of the most famous I would

621
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:14,920
Speaker 1: say qualifies as a company town uh the Readly Creek

622
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 1: Improvement District a k a. The autonomous the semi autonomous

623
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 1: state of the Disney Corporation in Florida. These are company towns.

624
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:27,600
Speaker 1: I think you make a good argument about Augusta National

625
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 1: as well. This is probably going to happen, folks, and

626
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 1: we'll have people in the audience who disagree on whether

627
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:38,719
Speaker 1: it's a good thing or a bad thing. Looking at

628
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:41,920
Speaker 1: the facts, I think, Noel, you and I can agree

629
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 1: that there's much more opportunity for corruption and conspiracy than

630
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:49,560
Speaker 1: there is for progress and the betterment of the life

631
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:53,320
Speaker 1: of the average Nevadum resident. This sets off my spidey sense,

632
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:56,880
Speaker 1: and not not in the best way. But what do

633
00:39:56,920 --> 00:40:00,239
Speaker 1: you think, folks is are are we being a lar miss?

634
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 1: Obviously we don't think we are. But could this lead

635
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:06,719
Speaker 1: to a situation where some members of the U. S

636
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 1: public feel like they're US citizens and then other people

637
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:14,360
Speaker 1: feel like they have two types of citizenship, one for

638
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:20,400
Speaker 1: you know, Uncle Sam, right, and one for Amazon or

639
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:24,960
Speaker 1: one for blockchains. I could totally see Amazon buy in

640
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 1: a town. Well, like, you don't have to have all

641
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 1: of the legal framework to do some of these things

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Speaker 1: Off air, when we were talking in preparation for this episode, UM,

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Speaker 1: I think we both noted the rose colored glasses the

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Speaker 1: big Simpsons Monorail vibes, you know what I mean, like

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Speaker 1: it'll solve a lot of stuff for block chains, you know,

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Speaker 1: and it's certainly a new chapter in corporate dominance kind

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Speaker 1: of you know what I mean. Now they get there,

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, and like again, like the picture

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Speaker 1: You're totally right, But why do we why here's a question,

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Speaker 1: and why do they need to have their own government?

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Speaker 1: Why can't this this what's already in place with regulation.

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Speaker 1: Doesn't mean it doesn't inherently seem like they're trying to

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Speaker 1: I'm tending to agree because the lead proposal talks about

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Speaker 1: They don't really get into the specifics to defend that statement,

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