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Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I almost Famous podcast

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Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: It's the almost famous podcast and it's been here coming

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Speaker 2: to you from Carmel, California, where we are in town

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Speaker 2: for our annual almost famous golf trip at Pebble Beach

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Speaker 2: for the Pebble Beach Pro Am. And I'm here today

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Speaker 2: with the almost famous o Gee Bob Guinea, Hi Ben, Hi,

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Speaker 2: Bob Hey. Kenyon was supposed to be here. Yes, she

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Speaker 2: got sick. She got sick. Yeah, she's been sick a

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Speaker 2: couple of days, kind of nursing it. Today she woke

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Speaker 2: up though, and it was worse than ever. And it's funny.

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Speaker 3: I was telling someone down in the lobby that when

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Speaker 3: she told me she was sick at by forty five

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Speaker 3: this morning, I'm like, come on, you can't be sick,

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Speaker 3: and she's like, upset that I'm not being supportive. Then

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Speaker 3: I jump in the shower, I get out of the

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Speaker 3: shower and I go, you know what, I totally get it.

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Speaker 3: You're right, you're sick. I don't want you to come

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Speaker 3: because then I don't want you to get anyone else sick.

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Speaker 3: And she's like, oh great, now you don't want me

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Speaker 3: to come yeah, I couldn't win. No, you're you're in

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Speaker 3: a losing battle.

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Speaker 2: Now she's sick, and I'm guessing she's really bummed, not

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Speaker 2: only because she loves to see, you know, be around you.

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Speaker 2: Obviously I'm the least of the year. Yeah, but like

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Speaker 2: being here in this town. Yeah, she has to just

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Speaker 2: love this place. She went to school in Berkeley, so

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Speaker 2: she she loves the bay. She loves Sugarman and talking

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Speaker 2: about their Kapa Kappa Gamba Berkeley days and uh, you know,

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Speaker 2: loves all of the friends that we have that have

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Speaker 2: become a part of this tradition here that it's just

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Speaker 2: a really great group and I think she really enjoys

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Speaker 2: being a part of it. Yeah, and so it like

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Speaker 2: she even said, she's like you got to understand, like

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Speaker 2: she was so upset. She's like I miss She's like

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Speaker 2: I would rather miss so many other things that we

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Speaker 2: do over this.

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Speaker 4: It's your favorite thing.

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Speaker 2: It's it's every year, no matter what's going on, like

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Speaker 2: this is coming here and being with everybody and just

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Speaker 2: hanging out and drinking wine, watching golf. Is this is

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Speaker 2: a special place. It is I want to dig into

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Speaker 2: your marriage a little bit. Oh good, Okay, Yeah, Bob.

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Speaker 2: When something like this happens, it's turned into a guy

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Speaker 2: strip for you. Now she's not here, it has is

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Speaker 2: do you in your marriage keep a scoreboard? So like,

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Speaker 2: she's now going to get to have a girl's trip

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Speaker 2: because you did a guys trip.

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Speaker 3: You have to understand, I am the king of encouraging

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Speaker 3: girls trips.

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Speaker 4: I'm with you. Oh my god.

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Speaker 3: If there's a if I even hear a whisper of

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Speaker 3: a girl's trip that they don't even know her, I'm

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Speaker 3: introducing her to them and saying, you got she's a

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Speaker 3: lot of fun.

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Speaker 4: On a girl trip, you should take he she's a

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Speaker 3: I love her going on girls trips because then when

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Speaker 3: I have something come up. I mean, you know, one

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Speaker 3: of the things I was really looking forward to was

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Speaker 3: was the trip with you in the fall. I ended

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Speaker 3: up having some dealer no deal stuff I have to do,

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Speaker 3: and that was one of my guy trips that I

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, we don't necessarily keep score, but you know,

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Speaker 3: there's definitely some score keeping going on. But see, I

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Speaker 2: Well, and like I I'm very much against score boards

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Speaker 2: in marriages indeed, and I'm with you where it's like,

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Speaker 2: if Jessica comes to me and says, I'm going to

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Speaker 2: I'm like great, like that. I mean, that's one of

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Speaker 2: the reasons I think our our marriage is so healthy,

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Speaker 2: because we're both very encouraging of like, hey, I want

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Speaker 4: I gotta do it.

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Speaker 3: Especially and I'll say this too, you know, especially with

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Speaker 4: You know, my kids now are seven and four and

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Speaker 3: But for me, Jessica gave up a lot of her

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Speaker 3: Like I'll be like, oh, I'd love to go to

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Speaker 3: It's a buddy of mine when I was living in

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Speaker 4: It really is a great one.

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Speaker 3: But I want her now to do stuff so that

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Speaker 3: out doing my thing right. And so I encourage it

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Speaker 3: as much as I can. Like this past week, for example,

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Speaker 3: be honest, she went out Wednesday night and Thursday night

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Speaker 3: if I'm prepared to do stuff three nights in a row.

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Speaker 3: I know I'm not yea more I used to be.

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Speaker 3: I used to be prepared for you know, oh, yeah,

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Speaker 2: Things have changed for me now when you go away,

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Speaker 2: you've been married for how many.

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Speaker 4: Years we've been married. This will be our tenth year

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Speaker 4: of marriage in November of twenty six.

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Speaker 2: I think people are interested when you travel and she's

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Speaker 4: Yeah, are you face timing her quite a bit? I will.

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Speaker 3: because the answer, the answer is yes, I'm facetiming. I'm

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Speaker 3: facetiming her. But she's playing the phone at the boys, okay,

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Speaker 3: you know, but we had we had a nanny schedule

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Speaker 3: I'll FaceTime and she will point the phone at the boys.

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Speaker 3: But she'll call me, and you know, we'll check in

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Speaker 2: That's I mean, that's funny because I'm needier, I think. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I won't talk to her much. Yeah, I mean, we'll

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Speaker 2: but I don't want to be on FaceTime.

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Speaker 4: I don't want to be on the phone.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I would, honestly if it was if I did

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Speaker 4: Like, I just don't love being on it.

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Speaker 3: It's yeah, on the opposite, I want to like, for example, well,

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Speaker 3: So I'm like, oh my god, that's great, Blake, Like

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Speaker 3: I'll text her later tonight, probably just be like, you know,

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Speaker 4: Goodness, I was for hours. Yeah, not anymore. We were

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Speaker 2: The hard part for me is, uh, I've the last,

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Speaker 2: it was stuff I had like committed to a year previously.

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Speaker 2: This year, I've made a like an effort to not

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Speaker 2: The hard part for me is facetiming my daughter. I

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Speaker 3: So I was very I was so sad and I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I really I wanted to be here. I needed

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Speaker 2: only because I get so sad, like when when he

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Speaker 4: And do all the fun. It's just too much. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: The good part is she's not old enough yet to

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Speaker 4: Yeah, she's just no, clearly, Yeah yeah yeah.

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Speaker 2: Once she starts to like get sad that I'm gone,

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Speaker 2: you'll never see me again, you know what.

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Speaker 3: I know.

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Speaker 4: I know that that is true. Knowing you, I know

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Speaker 4: that's true. You'll never see me leave my home. Like

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Speaker 4: Grayson doesn't get sad Blake.

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Speaker 3: Blake will get sad if he's needing me to stick

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Speaker 3: up for him, you know, because his good brothers messing

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Speaker 3: with him or something. But it's not really that they're

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Speaker 3: sad that I'm not there.

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Speaker 4: They're sad that, you know, the functions of my day

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Speaker 4: aren't there for them. We're gonna be out here playing golf.

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Speaker 2: We we like to talk about golf in very specific

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Speaker 2: ways here on the show. Because it bores everybody. But

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Speaker 2: we are going to play little golf. Have you been practicing?

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Speaker 3: No, I have not, I have. You know, I live

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Speaker 3: I live in Michigan, so there's been no golf. However,

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Speaker 3: last week I went out and played evermore in Orlando.

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Speaker 2: Have you guys played there yet? You were in Orlando

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Speaker 2: last week? Yeah, Wells and I were in Orlando last week.

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Speaker 2: I know, I was very jealous when I saw your post,

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Speaker 2: why don't you come to Joey? I'm like, Joey, Who

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Speaker 2: No, And Brett still to this day will bring that

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Speaker 4: I could hang out with him.

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Speaker 3: Literally every day, Like It's part of the joy of

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Speaker 2: There are unique people in the world, and I'm with

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Speaker 5: Now yeah, they both quit, but the.

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Speaker 2: I hate that that's true, but I think it does

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Speaker 2: It's when I'm questioning myself is when it goes the

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Speaker 5: You just live your life like a little bit.

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Speaker 4: Was before noon, are do you? Are you a better golfer? Absolutely?

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Speaker 4: I figured out this game. Then I was I'm like,

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Speaker 3: And then I quit drinking for two holes, and feels

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Speaker 4: Yeah. You know, there's a fine it's a fine balance.

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Speaker 4: I like to have drinks.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's big.

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Speaker 3: I like to keep it moving. I'm like, and I'm dropping.

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Speaker 3: Let's go, you know, just don't be the slowest ever.

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Speaker 3: You can be bad. Just be bad fast, be bad

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Speaker 2: The other thing is that, like you, I know, I

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Speaker 4: It's all in your mind as long as it's fast, exactly.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well's what's your drink? Like, if you had your

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Speaker 2: It depends. Why does it deather? Oh wow? Play a

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Speaker 4: Naked Skipping Go Naked is one of my favorite. Oh

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Speaker 4: we did that last night. But what is the drink.

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Speaker 3: Skipp and go naked is vodka, lemonade and beer?

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Speaker 4: Oh light is the best beer.

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Speaker 3: maybe a splash or two lemonade, and then you throw

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Speaker 2: I actually just sent me a great bourbon the other day.

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00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:40,080
Speaker 2: But I like once the weather gets above sixty five,

436
00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:43,840
Speaker 2: you won't see that opened up again until it gets cold.

437
00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:45,720
Speaker 2: But like sitting by the fire with a glass of

438
00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:49,360
Speaker 2: bourbon neat reading my book or talking to Jess.

439
00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:50,680
Speaker 4: I'm all in.

440
00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:53,600
Speaker 3: See bourbon neat to me, you guys are true bourbon lovers.

441
00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:55,440
Speaker 3: Like for me, I've got to have a rock in there.

442
00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:58,679
Speaker 3: You got to have something because it's gotten. But I

443
00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:02,000
Speaker 3: will tell you I never had rye before. And I

444
00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:03,400
Speaker 3: was at a buddy's place in Florida.

445
00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:03,919
Speaker 4: We played.

446
00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:06,280
Speaker 3: He lives in Claremont, Florida, which is right near Orlando,

447
00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:07,200
Speaker 3: just outside of Orlando.

448
00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:09,479
Speaker 4: We played his home course. It was awesome.

449
00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:11,160
Speaker 3: We go back to his house and he's like, I'm

450
00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:13,600
Speaker 3: going to pour some rye and I'm like, A, probably

451
00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:15,960
Speaker 3: not my thing, man, I don't I don't really drink scotch.

452
00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:17,639
Speaker 4: He's like, no, this is different.

453
00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:20,960
Speaker 3: And he in of all things, he pours angels envy Rye,

454
00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:23,680
Speaker 3: who I've gotten to know for years to get the West,

455
00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:26,320
Speaker 3: who was the former I don't know what you call him.

456
00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:27,520
Speaker 3: He's not a brewmaster, but I don't know what you

457
00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:31,159
Speaker 3: would call that angels envy for many years. And now

458
00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:33,040
Speaker 3: he went off and started his own brand called Story,

459
00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:35,960
Speaker 3: which is really cool. But he pulls out this bottle

460
00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:38,919
Speaker 3: of angels envy rye and I was just like Holy smokes.

461
00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:41,480
Speaker 4: This is spectacular. Yeah, now we're.

462
00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:42,520
Speaker 2: Kind of in the mood for it tonight because it

463
00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:44,600
Speaker 2: is kind of chilly. A Rye old Fashion is a

464
00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:46,400
Speaker 2: very good drink. Oh, I have to try that. I've

465
00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:49,440
Speaker 2: never had that before. We're bartineering up here on the

466
00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:50,040
Speaker 2: show today.

467
00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:53,359
Speaker 3: On the hottest day, I will start off with a

468
00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:56,200
Speaker 3: transfusion or a or a screwdriver.

469
00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:59,199
Speaker 2: I had two years of a transfusion phase when I

470
00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:01,760
Speaker 2: was on the course tough, but it was just too

471
00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:04,880
Speaker 2: much sugar for me, and I was always like, you'd

472
00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:07,280
Speaker 2: have one, you know I I and Wells knows this.

473
00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:10,119
Speaker 2: I don't love the drink on the course. Yeah, I'm

474
00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:12,720
Speaker 2: too competitive. I get mad at myself if I like,

475
00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:18,440
Speaker 2: you should start trying because you've been losing recently. I'm

476
00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:20,280
Speaker 2: not getting my strokes from Wells that I should be

477
00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:24,439
Speaker 2: getting right now. I get five strokes from him around

478
00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:26,439
Speaker 2: and he's not given them to me anymore. What are

479
00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:34,880
Speaker 2: you talking about, golfer? Who in this group is the

480
00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:41,400
Speaker 2: biggest sore loser? I would say, well, me for sure. Yeah,

481
00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:44,919
Speaker 2: if I beat you, it affects you more than when

482
00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:47,280
Speaker 2: you beat me. Maybe it's just because if the expectation

483
00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:51,280
Speaker 2: is that you beat me. Yeah, I'm just an emotional being.

484
00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:54,720
Speaker 2: I know what I am. But it's really funny. We

485
00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:58,080
Speaker 2: were playing with Joey Uh. I was playing with Joey

486
00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:00,360
Speaker 2: in the like the final day of this Orlando thing,

487
00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:02,160
Speaker 2: and Ben was in the group in front of us,

488
00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:06,280
Speaker 2: and I started out, I think the in last place,

489
00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:08,400
Speaker 2: and I was like, I'm going to catch up, don't worry.

490
00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:10,800
Speaker 2: And then I started to catch up, and then I

491
00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:14,359
Speaker 2: was playing really well, and then things started going sideways,

492
00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:16,639
Speaker 2: and I know Joey started to catch up, and then

493
00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:18,840
Speaker 2: the last hole, Joey goes, do you want to know

494
00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:20,280
Speaker 2: what the point total is right now? And I was

495
00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:22,240
Speaker 2: like no, I don't, and he was like, come on,

496
00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:24,159
Speaker 2: to be really fun if you knew, and I was like,

497
00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:25,639
Speaker 2: I do not want to know.

498
00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:27,280
Speaker 4: Do not tell him? And he was like come on.

499
00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:32,080
Speaker 2: And so what happened was on the last hole was

500
00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:37,960
Speaker 2: a par five for us sucks. I I make Birdie okay,

501
00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:41,480
Speaker 2: so that's like three points. Joey gets up and down

502
00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:44,159
Speaker 2: for par that's two points. I ended up beating him

503
00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:47,600
Speaker 2: by one. Oh, so I was I was only up

504
00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:50,119
Speaker 2: by one. So he wanted to be like, get in

505
00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:51,879
Speaker 2: my head right now, and I was like, I'm not

506
00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:52,280
Speaker 2: letting you.

507
00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:55,160
Speaker 4: I can't let you in there. I be so angry.

508
00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:57,720
Speaker 2: So yeah, I know if he would have if he

509
00:22:57,760 --> 00:22:59,280
Speaker 2: would have parted that hole he tied with me.

510
00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:02,119
Speaker 3: He didn't know this. We were in the same group,

511
00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:06,479
Speaker 3: was Joey Tye. Then yeah, oh my goodness, that's a

512
00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:09,520
Speaker 3: good group you guys. One well done brother.

513
00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:12,840
Speaker 4: You Uh will we be betting this week on the

514
00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:14,160
Speaker 4: golf course? Yeah?

515
00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:20,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, here's here's really like my what we need to

516
00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:24,080
Speaker 2: like close out with here is we've been doing this

517
00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:25,080
Speaker 2: for a few years.

518
00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:26,840
Speaker 4: This is always special.

519
00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:32,800
Speaker 2: I didn't know Bob before like these trips started to happen,

520
00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:35,480
Speaker 2: and I I told, wells is today, Bob, I said,

521
00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:37,359
Speaker 2: And if I look at my top ten list of

522
00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:40,480
Speaker 2: favorite memories over the last ten years, Oh, you got

523
00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:45,280
Speaker 2: to have so many too, Like there's moments with both

524
00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:46,160
Speaker 2: of you in those.

525
00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:53,720
Speaker 3: Our various states of undress. Our NAPA trip was really special,

526
00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:55,800
Speaker 3: really fun, Wills, and it wasn't able to make that one,

527
00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:56,920
Speaker 3: but you and I had.

528
00:23:57,160 --> 00:24:01,080
Speaker 4: I just love those moments. Yeah, you know, the a

529
00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:02,320
Speaker 4: nice bonding trip for us.

530
00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:04,440
Speaker 2: It was great spend a lot of the time again

531
00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:06,000
Speaker 2: it was like, those things are fantastic.

532
00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:08,920
Speaker 4: We're gonna have that this week. I'm gonna ask you both.

533
00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:11,119
Speaker 2: Wells and I talked about a little bit ago, but

534
00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:12,720
Speaker 2: I'm gonna ask you both this question. I have two

535
00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:14,080
Speaker 2: more questions for the two of you. I want your

536
00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:17,680
Speaker 2: opinions to be shared. A lot of things has changed

537
00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:20,760
Speaker 2: in this franchise that has brought us to this point

538
00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:24,040
Speaker 2: and why we sit here today. And they just casted

539
00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:26,560
Speaker 2: Taylor Frankie Paul, who we talk about very often right

540
00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:30,840
Speaker 2: now in this show as the next Bachelorette. All things aside,

541
00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:33,720
Speaker 2: Taylor Frankie Paul is changing how we're going to be

542
00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:36,640
Speaker 2: doing this show for the next year. She is a

543
00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:39,359
Speaker 2: star that they've made the Bachelorette. It's like having a

544
00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:41,240
Speaker 2: Kardashi in a lot of ways that they talked about

545
00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:42,760
Speaker 2: now is our Bachelorette.

546
00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:45,119
Speaker 4: What do you think the Nator sisters are next?

547
00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:47,879
Speaker 2: Oh that's what I need out of this. I wanted

548
00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:50,000
Speaker 2: to ask you guys, like where do they go from here?

549
00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:53,359
Speaker 2: They keep doing it, They keep doing it. They also

550
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:55,720
Speaker 2: have a reality TV show that's also a part of

551
00:24:55,800 --> 00:25:00,440
Speaker 2: the ABC Houlou family, and it like to me, Bob Mills.

552
00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:03,080
Speaker 2: If you're listening, it seems like such a home run.

553
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:06,320
Speaker 3: So when you said that, I immediately thought of the

554
00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:10,000
Speaker 3: twin basketball sisters from Miami.

555
00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:13,080
Speaker 4: Oh, but that's not that obviously, No, it's not not

556
00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:16,000
Speaker 4: even close. The Native sisters Brooke, Grace and Mary and

557
00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:16,600
Speaker 4: Sarah Jane.

558
00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:19,680
Speaker 2: They're all beautiful but and great at being on TV.

559
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:23,320
Speaker 2: Is it sustainable? Oh, I know who you're talking about.

560
00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:26,320
Speaker 3: She was on Dancing with the Stars with Yeah. Is

561
00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:29,880
Speaker 3: it sustainable to have a celebrity? So so they looked

562
00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:32,000
Speaker 3: at this a long long time ago. So I don't

563
00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:35,399
Speaker 3: know if you guys remember Krishelle from now. She was

564
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:39,239
Speaker 3: on Selling Billings. I did Traders with her. Oh that's right,

565
00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:42,160
Speaker 3: you did. I forget about that. So many many years

566
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:44,000
Speaker 3: ago they approached her about being the bachelor at she

567
00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:45,560
Speaker 3: was on All My Children with my ex wife.

568
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:48,639
Speaker 4: Oh really, I didn't know. She was like, okay, yeah.

569
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:53,159
Speaker 3: And it was really interesting because at the time she

570
00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:55,199
Speaker 3: was in this on again off again romance with with

571
00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:57,600
Speaker 3: one of my buddies too well, Graham Bunn, who you

572
00:25:57,640 --> 00:25:59,280
Speaker 3: guys know from you know, he was on the show.

573
00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:02,320
Speaker 3: He was on there at uh was it d Enna season?

574
00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:06,439
Speaker 3: I think yeah, Penna season, and and they you know,

575
00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:09,520
Speaker 3: and I loved Kroschelle Kroschelle. I got to know her

576
00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:11,800
Speaker 3: from my my ex wife and stuff. And when they

577
00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:13,879
Speaker 3: approached her, I was like, Oh my god, that's brilliant.

578
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:17,360
Speaker 3: For whatever reason, I think she said no to them.

579
00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:18,920
Speaker 3: I don't think I don't think they would have said

580
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:21,679
Speaker 3: no to her at the time. And she said no

581
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:23,119
Speaker 3: because I think she got re upped for all my

582
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:24,080
Speaker 3: children or whatever it was.

583
00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:25,600
Speaker 4: I don't really I don't know any of her business,

584
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:26,320
Speaker 4: so I don't pretend to.

585
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:29,280
Speaker 3: But it was one of those situations where I was like, Wow,

586
00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:32,440
Speaker 3: that was that would have been huge. Yeah, what a crossover,

587
00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:34,760
Speaker 3: because that's all Disney's about, right, is that synergy and

588
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:37,880
Speaker 3: that crossover. And so I think it's really interesting now

589
00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:40,400
Speaker 3: that they finally did it, and it's gonna I think

590
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:42,080
Speaker 3: you're right. I think the genie's out of the bottle

591
00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:45,399
Speaker 3: at this point, right, especially if she has really good

592
00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:47,400
Speaker 3: ratings on her season. I think that's going to really

593
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:50,120
Speaker 3: kind of spell the future for the for the franchise

594
00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:52,159
Speaker 3: because it has been suffering over the last couple of years.

595
00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:55,560
Speaker 2: You guys were both a Bachelor, so you can look

596
00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:57,680
Speaker 2: at it through a different prison than I King said.

597
00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:01,639
Speaker 2: I was never the Bachelor, But you know, it's not

598
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:04,280
Speaker 2: easy to be the lead, right, Like it's a very

599
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:07,040
Speaker 2: very difficult job. And one of the reasons why I

600
00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:10,800
Speaker 2: think that this might be a great play going forward

601
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,879
Speaker 2: is that there's no doubt that Taylor Frankie Paul is

602
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,639
Speaker 2: very good at being on television and being the star

603
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:19,480
Speaker 2: of the television show. Like you can say whatever you want,

604
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:24,600
Speaker 2: but like, if you watch the Mormon show, she's like

605
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:28,800
Speaker 2: the main character, right, And there's something about someone who's

606
00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:31,320
Speaker 2: really really good at being able to command the room

607
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:35,240
Speaker 2: and own it and like be the star, which for

608
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:39,120
Speaker 2: people who are not television stars beforehand, all of you guys,

609
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:41,280
Speaker 2: it probably took you a little bit, right, Like that's

610
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:44,800
Speaker 2: what the Bachelorette is. It's an audition process to see.

611
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:47,920
Speaker 4: If you can asolutely right.

612
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:50,240
Speaker 2: And I think it's a good thing. And you know,

613
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:53,160
Speaker 2: I'm so far removed from The Bachelor and The Bacheorette,

614
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:55,600
Speaker 2: but obviously I still work in Paradise. And one of

615
00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:58,760
Speaker 2: the things I've always fought for and I've never won,

616
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:02,240
Speaker 2: but I feel like we're getting close to is why

617
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 2: does paradise have to just be people from the Bachelor, Like,

618
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 2: why can't it be people from the Challenge? Why can't

619
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:10,440
Speaker 2: it be people from Survivor? Like who cares? Let's get

620
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:14,480
Speaker 2: big stars in there, people who are good at making television.

621
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,959
Speaker 2: Let's get them on TV. Like there was a season

622
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:20,119
Speaker 2: a couple of years ago where we almost got Johnny

623
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:22,240
Speaker 2: Bananas was supposed to come on the show, and the

624
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:24,920
Speaker 2: connective tissue was me because I did a cooking show

625
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 2: with them, and I was like, you know, I was

626
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:30,240
Speaker 2: sitting with producers and they're like, what is Johnny gonna do?

627
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:31,800
Speaker 2: And he's gonna come in here and he's gonna blow

628
00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:35,119
Speaker 2: everything up and it's gonna be amazing television. Yeah, And

629
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:37,080
Speaker 2: it ended up not happening because I think he won

630
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:39,360
Speaker 2: the challenge. He's like, I'm gonna try to lose a

631
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:41,280
Speaker 2: challenge and then come to Paradise, then you end up

632
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:46,400
Speaker 2: winning it. But I do think that it's a necessary

633
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:51,000
Speaker 2: change that has to happen. I think that the franchise

634
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 2: has been resting on their laurels for a long time

635
00:28:53,960 --> 00:29:00,640
Speaker 2: with just like it being this cultural phenomenon, and now

636
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:03,560
Speaker 2: they're losing ground to the Love Islands and they're losing

637
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:06,719
Speaker 2: ground to all the other dating shows. Evolution has you

638
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:10,600
Speaker 2: have to get back to what made that show great,

639
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 2: which is like big television stars.

640
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:13,000
Speaker 4: You know.

641
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 2: The big problem that that we have in Paradise is

642
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 2: that your co host got freaking married. Because she was

643
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 2: amazing in Paradise, right right, she really was.

644
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 5: She was a.

645
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 2: Great television star. She cried all the time, she got

646
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:33,200
Speaker 2: so emotional. And I feel like this, this casting is

647
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:36,280
Speaker 2: like getting us back to that thing. Yeah, I agree

648
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:39,560
Speaker 2: with that. I'm uh, you're teaching me something right now.

649
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 4: I want to try to a little insider baseball and

650
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 4: I don't know, but.

651
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:45,800
Speaker 2: No, no, it's good and I want to I want

652
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:47,760
Speaker 2: to see if I can get my thought out. You know,

653
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:50,480
Speaker 2: the show had to evolve, as you said, like it did,

654
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 2: and I think maybe and you correct me, you correct me.

655
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:56,880
Speaker 2: I think the show tried to evolve, especially with what

656
00:29:56,880 --> 00:30:01,160
Speaker 2: we saw with Paradise last season, right yeah. Type of cameras,

657
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:05,600
Speaker 2: different type of shots, different type of set up, all these.

658
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:08,280
Speaker 4: Things, very different production totally like to all.

659
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:09,320
Speaker 3: I want to talk to you about that because I

660
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:11,360
Speaker 3: didn't realize we had that in comment. I work with

661
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:12,080
Speaker 3: those guys all the.

662
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:17,239
Speaker 2: Time, really, yeah, Scott, Yeah, nice, but I'm wondering if

663
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:19,720
Speaker 2: the answer is what you were saying right in front

664
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 2: of us the whole time. The whole show didn't need

665
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:25,880
Speaker 2: to evolve, but who was leading the show needed to.

666
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:29,400
Speaker 2: Because when they announced Taylor Frankie Paul I was against it.

667
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:31,880
Speaker 2: Not because of her, yeah, but because the idea that

668
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:33,800
Speaker 2: we were going to bring in the celebrity to lead

669
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 2: a show that was supposed to be the common person

670
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:37,240
Speaker 2: finding love.

671
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:40,040
Speaker 4: But the show had to do something. It was dying.

672
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:43,800
Speaker 4: And now they've done it. I think it will have

673
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:44,479
Speaker 4: great ratings.

674
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:46,840
Speaker 2: I think a lot of people tune in watch and

675
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:49,200
Speaker 2: maybe that is the answer is for the next chapter

676
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:53,000
Speaker 2: of twenty years, you're just picking who you know, somebody

677
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 2: that's out there who has a name known. The rumor

678
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 2: right now and I actually think based on what our

679
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 2: team did research on it's very likely to happen. Is

680
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 2: the next Bachelor will be Robert Irwin.

681
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, the.

682
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 2: Stars said that a while ago. I could see that

683
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:13,480
Speaker 2: that he might be too young. He's pretty charisma. How

684
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 2: young is he? He's the early twenties. But I do

685
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:21,120
Speaker 2: think that that's if I'm but that's not a bad

686
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 2: jo Tiger. I'm thinking, well, this guy was huge on

687
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:27,120
Speaker 2: he was magic on dancing, Yeah, twenty two years old,

688
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 2: Like he was huge on Dancing with the Stars. Obviously

689
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 2: everyone loves him because of the pedigree of which he

690
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:38,440
Speaker 2: comes his family. Yeah and yeah, but also like, why

691
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:40,200
Speaker 2: don't you do the show? You can do a show

692
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 2: with a twenty two year old just cast younger people

693
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 2: or well.

694
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 3: And also, you know, I think the one of the

695
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:48,000
Speaker 3: things that's probably always been a flaw of the show,

696
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 3: if we're being really honest, is that it's a failure

697
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:53,719
Speaker 3: if there's not a wedding at the end, right, And

698
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:56,160
Speaker 3: I think that's in large part what kind of doomed

699
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:58,520
Speaker 3: the Golden Series too, was that they were so pushing

700
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 3: for the marriage and then look what happened, right, Yeah,

701
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 3: everybody that and they get a divorce a month after.

702
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:03,440
Speaker 4: Yeah.

703
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:06,680
Speaker 3: So it's like I think sometimes, you know, creating a

704
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 3: couple that has some staying power can be equally as

705
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:13,239
Speaker 3: victorious as someone getting down on ane And you can

706
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 3: still propose at the end, but it doesn't have to

707
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 3: be like a huge, star studed wedding.

708
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 4: You know, three weeks later.

709
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:22,240
Speaker 2: It might be the only show on television right now

710
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 2: that could have huge celebrities lead it. Yeah, because every

711
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:29,840
Speaker 2: other show, like you're not getting a Taylor Frankie Paul

712
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 2: to show up to Love Island, right, There's she's one

713
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:35,720
Speaker 2: of twenty other people, right, but she's the lead of

714
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:39,480
Speaker 2: the show. You could convince some really big names who

715
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 2: are twenty two in single or thirty six in single

716
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 2: to say, hey, we're literally you've been wanting to get married,

717
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 2: you've been wanting to find your part. We're gonna set

718
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 2: you up. Yeah, and you're gonna be a star of

719
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:55,600
Speaker 2: this franchise. And I'm just picturing it here where like

720
00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:59,000
Speaker 2: Taylor Frankie Paul gets married and like they're known for

721
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 2: getting married, like years later, twenty years down the road,

722
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:06,240
Speaker 2: we're like, oh, yeah, they're that celebrity couple who got

723
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 2: who met on The Bachelor, and she was a celebrity before,

724
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 2: and it just rises even higher, like the name gets

725
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 2: even more prominent, and at some point they have huge

726
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 2: home runs like a Kardashian right, or I mean Taylor

727
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 2: Swift obviously is engaged in getting married, but like when

728
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 2: she was single, like somebody huge and everybody's rooting for

729
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 2: meeting somebody. All of a sudden they're leading a show

730
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 2: that you're watching them day on national television. I will

731
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 2: say this though, Yeah, you can cast a Kardashian, you

732
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 2: can cast a gigantic star. And this is no knock

733
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 2: on you guys. But the truth of the matter is

734
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:44,520
Speaker 2: is that the show, really the stars of the show

735
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 2: is always the you know, if you're the Bachelor, it's

736
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 2: the all the girls there. If you're the bachelorte, it's

737
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:54,880
Speaker 2: all the guys there. Right, And so Taylor Frankie Paul

738
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:58,520
Speaker 2: might be amazing television and I met, I know she's

739
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 2: amazing television, but it really counts on casting of like

740
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 2: these guys that come with her, And so it'll be

741
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:08,440
Speaker 2: interesting to see what happens, you know, back to your

742
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 2: point earlier of like it's it's unsuccessful, someone doesn't get married.

743
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:17,839
Speaker 2: I think that's why Paradise has always been more successful

744
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 2: than the other two is because our stakes are lower.

745
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:23,359
Speaker 2: Expectations are you don't have to get engaged. In fact,

746
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:26,919
Speaker 2: I don't really care leave together lovely. I would love

747
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 2: that shot of you getting in that you know, that

748
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:32,359
Speaker 2: black car together and drive, you know, and then and

749
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:34,799
Speaker 2: then waiting two months to go do a reunion show

750
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 2: and seeing what's going on, don't really care. And when

751
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:41,040
Speaker 2: you when I think when you tell the cast that,

752
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:42,799
Speaker 2: because when you're doing the batch or the bats trade,

753
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:45,719
Speaker 2: you're so like, I have to engage the whole thing,

754
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:48,319
Speaker 2: whereas in Paradise it's like, yeah, you can leave if

755
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 2: you want whatever, it doesn't really matter. And then those

756
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:54,439
Speaker 2: relationships end up lasting because they've taken the pressure off

757
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 2: of it and they're letting people be honest with each other,

758
00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 2: you know, to your.

759
00:34:57,080 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 4: Point so long long time.

760
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:01,960
Speaker 3: They had asked me to talk to some of the

761
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:06,279
Speaker 3: younger bachelors coming up, and I remember I got kind

762
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 3: of some heat for what I had said at the time,

763
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:10,919
Speaker 3: which I was like, guys, and I was. They thought

764
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:12,879
Speaker 3: I was being too self deprecating, but I was being

765
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 3: genuinely honest. It was an assessment I had after the show.

766
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:19,399
Speaker 3: I know Heather's heard me say it a million times,

767
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 3: but I was like, the show's not about you. Like

768
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 3: I would say this to whoever's gonna be the next

769
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 3: batchel Iman, it's not about you, and they're like, what

770
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:28,320
Speaker 3: do you mean. I'm like, it's about the fact that

771
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:30,440
Speaker 3: they just cast twenty five or thirty women who have

772
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:34,399
Speaker 3: never lost a thing, especially to that chick over there, right,

773
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:36,240
Speaker 3: you could be a monkey hand and not a flower.

774
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:37,719
Speaker 3: They're gonna cry at the end of this thing because

775
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:40,560
Speaker 3: they didn't get a rose, not because you're that great,

776
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:42,719
Speaker 3: because you're not. I mean, let's be honest, ninety percent

777
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 3: of these dudes are trainers living in their mom's basement

778
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 3: at the end of the day, Right, I got a

779
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:50,200
Speaker 3: little grief over that. You know, I'm not gonna lie,

780
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 3: but but the truth was, I really believed it. Like

781
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 3: I feel like if and I do feel like if

782
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 3: guys went into that, and I wouldn't say the women

783
00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:59,360
Speaker 3: so much because the Bachelrett series is a lot more successful,

784
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:01,839
Speaker 3: But if guys went into that with a little more

785
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 3: of that humility and they were like, I'm working for

786
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 3: this relationship as much as they are, because that's really

787
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 3: what the mindset needs to be. But if the guys

788
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:14,280
Speaker 3: are trying too, then but instead it's like the guys

789
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:16,439
Speaker 3: think all these women need to kiss their ass because

790
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:18,719
Speaker 3: they're the bachelor guy. That's not it at all, right,

791
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 3: And that's why this show I think has suffered a

792
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 3: little bit.

793
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:23,920
Speaker 2: I think that for the Bachelor, the onus is on

794
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 2: the Bachelor to convince the audience that they are deserving

795
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 2: of what's happening, right, yes, right, so you have to

796
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 2: have that mental gymnastics, right, like, why are you so

797
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:39,080
Speaker 2: awesome that the hottest twenty five girls are ladies are

798
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:39,840
Speaker 2: here for you?

799
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:40,359
Speaker 4: For you?

800
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 3: Why does this make any sense? And why are they

801
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 3: acting crazy and getting mad at each other and everything else?

802
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 4: They don't even know you?

803
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:50,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that, like we talked about joe earlier, Joey

804
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:52,480
Speaker 2: did a really good job of that, Like he's stand

805
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:56,279
Speaker 2: up guy, athletic, handsome, all this stuff, and then like

806
00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 2: he showed all those parts. And I think that that's

807
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:01,919
Speaker 2: why that season was so successful is because everyone.

808
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:03,719
Speaker 4: Was like, yeah, I get it, Yeah, I buy it.

809
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:04,719
Speaker 4: I did.

810
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:06,400
Speaker 2: That's one of the first seasons I tuned back in.

811
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 2: Yeah I get the Yeah, I would say too. The

812
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:13,759
Speaker 2: lead is what we started this conversation out with. When

813
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 2: you are somebody who can change the environment of a

814
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 2: room by connecting people. I do think the season is better,

815
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 2: and I think Taylor, Frankie Paul and people who have

816
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:27,319
Speaker 2: done television before are big enough personalities to set the

817
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 2: tone for the room. When when the women are there

818
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 2: and they're like Yeah, he's the bachelor and he's handsome,

819
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:36,279
Speaker 2: but like, I don't really see this working out the

820
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 2: whole show. The tone of the show is going to

821
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:40,480
Speaker 2: be different. The stars of the show are the cast,

822
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 2: but the lead has to be somebody that brings the

823
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 2: most out of the cast. Yeah, always the connective tissue

824
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:50,120
Speaker 2: for everything, everything, because if the lead is not great,

825
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:52,759
Speaker 2: the cast is going to be like, well, I'm cool

826
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:55,719
Speaker 2: drinking wine in the hotel room with my girlfriends right now.

827
00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:57,840
Speaker 4: I'm also great friends on this journey. Yeah, they're not

828
00:37:57,880 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 4: going to be fighting over it.

829
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:01,480
Speaker 2: They're not going to bed if they get broken up,

830
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 2: but they're gonna be like, this was fine. I went

831
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 2: to Scotland and hung out for four days. So I

832
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 2: do think this like the Robert R. Wins and the

833
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 2: Taylor Frankie Pauls, I do think they'll have that factor

834
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 2: enough to where the cast will be like, no, if

835
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 2: I can marry a Taylor Frankie Paul, if I could

836
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:22,400
Speaker 2: date her, like, she's so great, I've seen her on television.

837
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:24,840
Speaker 4: I do think the cast will be a little bit more.

838
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:29,400
Speaker 2: Like re like pulling at everything to be like I

839
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 2: want more time with her.

840
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:32,759
Speaker 4: I want her to know me better, maybe willing to

841
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:33,440
Speaker 4: compete harder.

842
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:40,319
Speaker 2: Yes, Okay, so obviously the big cliche, overused trite thing

843
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 2: is being there for the right reasons. The only issue

844
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:49,360
Speaker 2: that I can foresee casting these giant stars as the

845
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:54,880
Speaker 2: lead is is the motivation for the cast that's trying

846
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:58,680
Speaker 2: to date these people and eventually get married. Are they

847
00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 2: there for the right reason? Like are you going on

848
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:04,440
Speaker 2: Taylor Frankie Paul's season so you can maybe be on

849
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 2: Secret Lives of Barmon Wives season five?

850
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 4: And you know, like you would hope though.

851
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:11,920
Speaker 2: The thing, I'm not saying that that's the truth, but

852
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 2: that's going to be something that's going to be brought up.

853
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:15,360
Speaker 2: You know, it's going to be a storyline, right like

854
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:17,359
Speaker 2: you're just here because you want to be on reality TV.

855
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 2: You don't really care about love. I can hear that

856
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:22,759
Speaker 2: story right now. You would hope though, that that would

857
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:25,759
Speaker 2: be My point was is like she could see that

858
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:29,400
Speaker 2: quickly like those types of people, right, she'd be like,

859
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 2: you're not here to date me, You're here because you

860
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:34,840
Speaker 2: want to be on television. It's not that dissimilar to

861
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 2: you going on the show. For Jojo watching her during

862
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 2: the season that I was the Bachelor, Right, It's not

863
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:46,720
Speaker 2: dissimilar to me going on the show for Caitlyn watching

864
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:51,359
Speaker 2: her on Chris Soul's this season, like it's I went

865
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:53,399
Speaker 2: on there, and when I met Caitlyn for the first time,

866
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 2: I was starstruck, Like I was like, oh my gosh,

867
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 2: I've watched you for you know, three months of my

868
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:02,440
Speaker 2: life on television and it just ended last night. And

869
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:04,160
Speaker 2: now I'm in front of you and I don't know,

870
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:07,400
Speaker 2: and I'm supposed to be like romantically interest. You're supposed

871
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:09,719
Speaker 2: to be romantically interested in me, And I'm like, this

872
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 2: is weird. It's not that dissimilar.

873
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 3: It's not Yeah, it's like a suspended what do you

874
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:17,239
Speaker 3: call that, suspended disbelief or whatever.

875
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 2: And then you get to meet I'm just telling you

876
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:21,960
Speaker 2: what's going to be a story. I think you're I

877
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:24,360
Speaker 2: think you're spot on. My point is you're spot on.

878
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:27,560
Speaker 2: I'm just hoping that, like we're not watching television being

879
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 2: like Taylor, he's only.

880
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:30,479
Speaker 4: Wanted to go on secret lives and more than.

881
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:34,279
Speaker 3: Why, he doesn't actually like you, he wants to be

882
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 3: in a mom talk. I mean he doesn't, right, I mean, honestly,

883
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 3: final thing today is Wells and I just talked about

884
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:54,360
Speaker 3: a little bit of goo Bob and I want to

885
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:57,719
Speaker 3: talk about it the three of us together now, because

886
00:40:57,760 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 3: I do think it's a big deal. Somebody else that

887
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:01,920
Speaker 3: made a start struck and somebody else that is creating

888
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:05,400
Speaker 3: a show that Wells has commented on and said it

889
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:07,360
Speaker 3: should just be called there for the right reasons.

890
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:10,719
Speaker 2: Chris Harrison. Yes, our buddy, our friend is returning to

891
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:12,720
Speaker 2: television after five years away.

892
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:16,719
Speaker 4: Uh. He is going to be doing a dating.

893
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 2: Show that will be on a prominent streaming network. It's

894
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:24,440
Speaker 2: gotten a lot of press recently for multiple reasons, one

895
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 2: of them being that in the caption it says they're

896
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:36,160
Speaker 2: looking for people who desire a traditional marriage. Exactly what.

897
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 5: Yes, I this is this.

898
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 2: Is why our wives are friends. Yes, I know your marriage,

899
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 2: and I know that you expect a cocktail at five, dinner,

900
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 2: made house to be clean up. Yeah, you want your

901
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:55,759
Speaker 2: feet rubbed at the end of the day. I know

902
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 2: that's how your life works.

903
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:04,880
Speaker 3: Yeah. I think that's interesting the trad wife, because I

904
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:06,480
Speaker 3: don't think LZ is a trad wife.

905
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:07,719
Speaker 5: That's what I told well.

906
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:12,239
Speaker 2: My point was, when we read this, we angles, you know,

907
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:15,239
Speaker 2: we have to also understand that Chris does not live

908
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 2: in a world where a traditional marriage. Yes, right, but

909
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:21,360
Speaker 2: when people have taken it to like being this idea

910
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:24,239
Speaker 2: of what I was just joking about, which is like

911
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 2: the man expects the women woman to like make that's

912
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:31,840
Speaker 2: not Chris now. So I guess my question that we

913
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 2: should end on the discussion here is one, what do

914
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 2: you think of him coming back on TV?

915
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:39,840
Speaker 4: I think it's great for TV. Two what do you

916
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:42,360
Speaker 4: think of this new show? I love you, dude.

917
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:45,239
Speaker 3: I first of all, I love Chris Harrison, and I

918
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 3: think that Chris Harrison is great for television. I think

919
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:51,400
Speaker 3: that he's a great person. I think that, you know,

920
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:55,560
Speaker 3: what happened to him was horribly unfortunate. The situation that

921
00:42:55,560 --> 00:43:00,880
Speaker 3: he was in was horribly unfortunate. And I love Lauren

922
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:04,279
Speaker 3: Zema and I love their relationship, and I think that,

923
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 3: you know, one of the things that I think that

924
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 3: will be great for that show will be that you're

925
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:11,640
Speaker 3: going to have a really talented host who knows how

926
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:12,560
Speaker 3: to help people work.

927
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:13,640
Speaker 4: Through emotional situations.

928
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:16,880
Speaker 3: I mean, Chris was part time counselor, part time therapist,

929
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 3: part time buddy, part time TV host. When I was

930
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:23,719
Speaker 3: the Bachelor, and I remember thinking to myself, especially some

931
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 3: choices I made right at the end, I wouldn't have

932
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:29,240
Speaker 3: made them had he not been a voice of reason

933
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 3: for me. And I think it really affected how people

934
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 3: have seen me since then, which is thankfully, very favorably

935
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:37,279
Speaker 3: for the most part. And I think I owe that

936
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:40,359
Speaker 3: to him. I think it's great. I think it's really

937
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 3: great that he's back on TV. I think that you're

938
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 3: right the portrayal of what this show is supposed to

939
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:50,120
Speaker 3: mean with my traditional marriage, it probably just means two

940
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 3: people being monogamous to one another and you know, working

941
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:56,080
Speaker 3: towards a great future. That's probably what they're using the

942
00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 3: word traditional for, which is what's wrong with that?

943
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 4: That's wonderful, right, And it's like, when did that become controversial?

944
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:03,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's not a controversial word, but you know, traad

945
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:05,440
Speaker 3: wife and things like that, they're immediately pop into my

946
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 3: head when I hear that. You know, yeah, trust me,

947
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 3: I know the three of us don't have a marriage

948
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 3: like that, and I know that now that is he

949
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:13,920
Speaker 3: so people don't have to be worried about that.

950
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:16,400
Speaker 2: The other thing about Chris and I didn't say this

951
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:19,160
Speaker 2: earlier when we were talking about it. But yeah, you're right,

952
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:22,240
Speaker 2: Like you're getting a really good host, someone's really competent

953
00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 2: about hitting his mark and saying the things and doing

954
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:28,880
Speaker 2: all that stuff. And this is maybe still maybe insider baseball,

955
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:32,479
Speaker 2: but like he's a phenomenal producer. Yeah, right, Like he's

956
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 2: really helping build this story because he's a part of it, right,

957
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:38,840
Speaker 2: like he is. It's kind of not dissimilar to me

958
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:41,960
Speaker 2: with the Bartender thing of like I'm invested in this

959
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:44,920
Speaker 2: because I'm a part of this thing. You're seeing storylines

960
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:48,359
Speaker 2: unfold and ye're going after people you know you're doing

961
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:52,279
Speaker 2: and he has a very good mind for that. I mean,

962
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:56,040
Speaker 2: there's there's a reason why that show was the number

963
00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 2: one show for so long, and it had a lot

964
00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:01,240
Speaker 2: to do with that guy's mind back in the control

965
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:02,799
Speaker 2: room being like I think we got to do this.

966
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:04,799
Speaker 2: I think we got to do this, and him being

967
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:07,480
Speaker 2: back on TV, I think you're gonna see that.

968
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:08,280
Speaker 4: I agree.

969
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:11,520
Speaker 2: I one of the things I've always respect about Chris

970
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 2: and I know and I don't believe I'm sharing too

971
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:19,359
Speaker 2: much as a friend because it's it's a compliment to him.

972
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:22,719
Speaker 2: If I was in the world of television for as

973
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:26,480
Speaker 2: long as he has been, I could see myself getting

974
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 2: into the place where I was rooting against somebody like, oh, yeah,

975
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:34,440
Speaker 2: we gotta nail on this storyline because they're freaking out

976
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:37,319
Speaker 2: and we have an ability to manipulate this and make

977
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:42,400
Speaker 2: this dramatic. Even in over drinks and a car ride

978
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 2: with Chris, when you hear him talk about his time

979
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 2: on The Bachelor, it's only out of a place of

980
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:50,120
Speaker 2: support and help for the contestants that we're there now.

981
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:54,439
Speaker 2: Things still happened that he just let happen because that's

982
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:55,880
Speaker 2: what was needing to happen.

983
00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 4: But he was.

984
00:45:57,080 --> 00:45:59,839
Speaker 2: Always a fan and rooting for and trying to help

985
00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:03,440
Speaker 2: out the cast to be the best versions of themselves.

986
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:04,799
Speaker 2: And he did that for me. I know he did

987
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:07,279
Speaker 2: that for you. He's done that for you, and so

988
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 2: I think it is phenomenal. I think he's it's we've

989
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:12,879
Speaker 2: all agreed. It's great for television, it's great for him.

990
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:15,640
Speaker 2: Five years away is too long for a guy that

991
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:17,640
Speaker 2: was the most popular.

992
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:18,319
Speaker 4: Oh he was.

993
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:21,440
Speaker 3: Everywhere for a while there face in you know to

994
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:24,200
Speaker 3: that point too. One of the things, I mean, again,

995
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:26,600
Speaker 3: we're all friends, we're all friends with Chris, but he

996
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:29,040
Speaker 3: also really didn't root against the Bachelor since he's been gone.

997
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:31,759
Speaker 3: I mean, he was never a guy who he was

998
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:34,440
Speaker 3: given many opportunities where he could have just been trashing

999
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:35,799
Speaker 3: the show, and he didn't do it.

1000
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:37,800
Speaker 2: I want to be surprised if he watched the ratings

1001
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 2: plummet and he went, I.

1002
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:40,959
Speaker 5: Mean, I don't think you could.

1003
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:42,360
Speaker 4: How would you not. It's kind of like me on

1004
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:44,280
Speaker 4: the golf course if Wells doubles.

1005
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:50,760
Speaker 2: I'm not saying anything you at the back of my mind.

1006
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 3: I'm sure there was some of that, but man, I mean,

1007
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 3: at least publicly, he never nod took a shot.

1008
00:46:58,320 --> 00:46:58,640
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1009
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:02,960
Speaker 2: Well, I mean you know that show gave him a lot. Yeah,

1010
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 2: I mean obviously thought was taken away and for whatever reason.

1011
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:11,440
Speaker 2: But like, I do think that he looks back on

1012
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:14,560
Speaker 2: that time in his life of being like really formative

1013
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:18,640
Speaker 2: and like really wonderful. Also, I think that maybe, like contractually,

1014
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:23,359
Speaker 2: he probably is not. Hey, this has been a lot

1015
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:25,719
Speaker 2: of fun, guys. We have a great night ahead of us,

1016
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:28,880
Speaker 2: a great week ahead of us. It's always fun to

1017
00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 2: be with the two of you and hanging out in

1018
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:33,920
Speaker 2: one of the most beautiful places on earth. I truly

1019
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:38,000
Speaker 2: believe that this is going to be fantastic. Thanks for

1020
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:41,800
Speaker 2: chatting about all things important in the world, like who's

1021
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:44,840
Speaker 2: going to be our next bachelor, who is what is

1022
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:45,799
Speaker 2: the bachelor going to do?

1023
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:47,160
Speaker 4: Chris Harrison coming back?

1024
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:50,640
Speaker 2: And then obviously a great segment on drinks on the

1025
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:54,120
Speaker 2: golf course. Hey, we'll be back very soon with more episodes.

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Speaker 4: On the Almost Famous podcast. Until next time, I've Been Been,

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00:47:56,840 --> 00:47:59,400
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