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Speaker 1: the last day to give us your Google Pool picks.

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Speaker 2: For twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 1: The link is there, you just click. It's very easy

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Speaker 1: for you to submit your three picks. These are three

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Speaker 1: well known people you think will pass away this year.

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Speaker 1: We had the results from twenty twenty two and we

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Speaker 1: had our winner. We've got some nice prizes and she

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Speaker 1: had picked Aaron Carter as one and Barbara Walters is

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Speaker 2: And just one more.

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Speaker 1: Caution this week, nothing counts that dies from January first

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Speaker 1: not count in Googlepool twenty twenty three, So she'll try

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Speaker 1: to sneak in a pick. If somebody well known dies

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Speaker 1: in the KFI cash refill contest. Well, I got to

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Speaker 1: ask you this. It's January sixth. Gavin Newsom purposely picked

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Speaker 1: this date to take his second term of office, the oath,

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Speaker 1: the inauguration. You say, do you feel things are a

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Speaker 1: lot better after these four years of Gavin Newsom? What

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Speaker 1: made a real difference as governor, kind of doubt it.

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Speaker 2: Right, it's not that situation. It's a certainty. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 2: a certainty that things are a lot worse than four

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Speaker 1: Right, you know what is about now? It's not about

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Speaker 1: fixing anything. It's really about the ideologies and the parties.

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Speaker 1: And as long as our side is winning, we cheer

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Speaker 1: this politician has done any difference with any of the problems.

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Speaker 2: There has been no interest on the part of most

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Speaker 2: people in government to make life better, especially surrounding the

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Speaker 2: really big problems in the state. And it's because the

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Speaker 2: what's going on. Because you know, we've Newsom's been an

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Speaker 2: but so but if you have people willingly voting for

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Speaker 2: that's like seven major elections that he won. That's the

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Speaker 1: Tivity too, tivity too, Yes, a whole image that he's

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Speaker 1: that's who you are. That's exactly what told the story

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Speaker 1: A start in politics in San Francisco when Willie Brown

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Speaker 2: He doesn't even he's not even. He doesn't even articulate

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Speaker 1: Right, all right, When Newson tries to do this, all

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Speaker 2: who who do connect like Ronald Reagan was great at

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Speaker 1: They're still being touted as presidential material now. It is

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Speaker 1: But I like the next paragraph as his own state

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Speaker 1: This is what he talks about well, and you can

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Speaker 1: A lot of things that people wonder because we had

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Speaker 1: And I'll say it every day, I'll say it even

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Speaker 2: The last couple of years. I think after Tuesday storm,

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Speaker 1: Like another two plus interest coming. Tuesday storms are on

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Speaker 1: They're lined up to hit California, particularly northern California, one

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Speaker 1: and rightfully, so, oh why don't we capture that water

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Speaker 1: then use it, because you know, if you're gonna just

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Speaker 1: point of it helping the drought. So the Times did

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Speaker 2: This is not the onion.

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Speaker 1: I don't think this is a sarcastic story.

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Speaker 2: I saw that thirty to fifty years. Do you know

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Speaker 2: there's eighty percent of our water that goes well what

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Speaker 2: they call the Los Angeles Basin, right the Greater LA

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Speaker 1: They only capture about twenty percent. They estimate five billion

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Speaker 1: to ten billion gallons poured into the La Basin from

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Speaker 2: Percent, So that means four to eight billion gallons of

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Speaker 1: You wonder that, because it's always about you just got

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Speaker 1: Another aspect of this from part of that crowd is

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Speaker 1: You just just have to stop watering that lawn and

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Speaker 2: You're flushing ten billion gallons into the Pacific Ocean over here.

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Speaker 2: Except I remember moving here in the nineties right after

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Speaker 2: if I'm paying for the water, again, not your business

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Speaker 2: you know, just stick it. Not your business. And there

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Speaker 2: if that's the game you're playing, I'm not following along

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Speaker 2: with all your requirements. You're corrupt. You take the money

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Speaker 1: F off plus do it somewhere. Apparently the region imports

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Speaker 1: So shouldn't that really help us? I mean, I'm just

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Speaker 2: I say it's enough. I don't go by their technical definitions.

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Speaker 1: Thing where well, we just don't have the ability to

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Speaker 2: So what did you do with all the tax money?

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Speaker 2: We don't have the ability. It means you stole the

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Speaker 2: Twenty fourteen, we passed a referendum seven billion dollars to

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Speaker 2: Where's the money?

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Speaker 1: What did you They did a story about a year

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Speaker 2: What that's that? Well, that's what I'm saying. They're running

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Speaker 1: And if you're interested, measure W raised your property taxes

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Speaker 1: And you go look on your property tax bill next

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Speaker 1: you know my neighbor, my neighbor is watering is lawn

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Speaker 2: You have all those water spies around.

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Speaker 1: Yes, the Hi coming up next, Alex Stone. Families of

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Speaker 1: the Idaho victims are now talking about being in court

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Speaker 1: and seeing the alleged killer, Brian Coberger. He'll bring us

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Also, we're bringing back the Boys Line today. They'll

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Speaker 1: will check in on the sad event occurring today and

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Speaker 1: that's the funeral memorial service for the Riverside County Sheriff's

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Speaker 1: Well, right now, we pay another visit to the story

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Speaker 1: The man, of course, charged with their murderers is Brian Cooberger.

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Speaker 2: Alex, what do you know, hey, guys.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you remember yesterday we were talking about how confident

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Speaker 4: very different view on this. Did they think that he

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Speaker 4: He was very critical of police when police were saying

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Speaker 3: He shoveled, beaten, surprised, overwhelmed. He didn't have the swagger

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Speaker 4: Defeated, and guys in court he really the the Gonsolvist

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Speaker 4: They tried to make eye contact with him. They wanted

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Speaker 3: And I've always said that eyes are the entry point

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Speaker 4: And so they say that they're vowing they're going to

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Speaker 4: And he says that they are going to make this

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Speaker 3: We're not there, it makes it easier for this dependent

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Speaker 4: So Coberger is going to be back in court next Thursday.

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Speaker 4: That's going to be a status hearing. Probably not going

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Speaker 4: But highly unlikely it's going to go down that road.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of questions popping up still about the motive.

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Speaker 2: Is that anybody thinking you just wanted to play the game.

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Speaker 4: There are a lot of people thinking that that this

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Speaker 4: is a guy that the friends have said has been

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Speaker 4: into serial killers and into the psychology of a criminal,

436
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Speaker 4: going back into high school and maybe even before that,

437
00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:35,480
Speaker 4: getting his PhD in criminology. That this may have been

438
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Speaker 4: somebody who either for excitement, for adrenaline, for to see

439
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Speaker 4: how it goes down from that side of it, But

440
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Speaker 4: was there something more personal in there? And the family

441
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Speaker 4: members say that they don't see anything there, and there

442
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Speaker 4: have been simple believe maybe he was infactuated with maybe

443
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Speaker 4: Kylie Steve Kensalvez his daughter, but maybe one of the

444
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Speaker 4: other young women, and that it may have just been

445
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Speaker 4: an obsession with one of them. Finally going in and

446
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Speaker 4: we know from the probable cause have of David that

447
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Speaker 4: he went to the home twelve times before the murders.

448
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Speaker 4: The belief among FBI profilers former profilers is that that

449
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Speaker 4: is building up the confidence to do it. That likely

450
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Speaker 4: that was going by doing his own surveillance on the

451
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Speaker 4: home to know what was going on, probably feeling the

452
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Speaker 4: nerves of what if I did it, and then on

453
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Speaker 4: that early morning in November actually carrying it out. And motive,

454
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Speaker 4: at least on the prosecution side, doesn't really matter. They

455
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Speaker 4: don't need motive. They just need the evidence. And he

456
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Speaker 4: would seem that they have that between cell phone data,

457
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Speaker 4: video or the DNA that we now know matches from

458
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Speaker 4: the scene to his family members. But maybe at some

459
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Speaker 4: point they will get that motive. They don't appear to

460
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Speaker 4: have it yet, and it just isn't real clear that

461
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Speaker 4: if they will ever get to that point of knowing

462
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Speaker 4: why he did it.

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Speaker 2: Well, to go back to what you were saying earlier,

464
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Speaker 2: part of the game is manipulating the court proceeding, manipulating

465
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Speaker 2: the jury. He knows he did it. There's no question

466
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Speaker 2: about this. The evidence is overwhelming and he was there

467
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Speaker 2: when he did it. So now is the game. How

468
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Speaker 2: can I pull this off? Can I create some kind

469
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Speaker 2: of confusing defense? Because I think He's going to be

470
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Speaker 2: a very difficult client for a public defender because he's

471
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Speaker 2: going to want to come up with some kind of

472
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Speaker 2: elaborate scaffolding of a story.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, you know, something like I touched that knife,

474
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Speaker 4: you know, in the sas beforehand, but you can't say

475
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Speaker 4: I did it that morning, that sort of thing, even

476
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Speaker 4: though the description of who the roommates saw walking down

477
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Speaker 4: the hall where she could see the bushy eyebrows that fits.

478
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Speaker 4: I mean, everything is in line unless this case falls apart,

479
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Speaker 4: unless there was a mistake made in some way, you know,

480
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Speaker 4: the other part of it being that it would it

481
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Speaker 4: would seem that a lot of care went into it.

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Speaker 4: There were no fingerprints, there was not a lot of

483
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Speaker 4: DNA other than that that she being there. And as

484
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Speaker 4: you guys mentioned yesterday, now that we know he went

485
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Speaker 4: back to of the scene five hours a little less

486
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Speaker 4: than about four hours after the murders at nine to

487
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Speaker 4: twelve am based on cell phone things, was he going

488
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Speaker 4: back to get that knife sheath thinking oh, you know that,

489
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Speaker 4: I can't believe I left that there. Or was he

490
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Speaker 4: going back maybe to see if police had found his crime.

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Speaker 4: We don't know, but so much of it seemed like

492
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Speaker 4: that it was somewhat perfectly planned out, and then that

493
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Speaker 4: Sheath was left there seemingly as a mistake, but there

494
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Speaker 4: were other mistakes that were made to as well. We

495
00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:35,960
Speaker 4: know what, at least police believe that he turned off

496
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Speaker 4: his cell phone during that time so he couldn't be tracked,

497
00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:42,200
Speaker 4: you know, that's fairly common knowledge, but turned it back on,

498
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Speaker 4: and it was on when he allegedly went back to

499
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Speaker 4: the home, and the twelve other times he had been

500
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Speaker 4: at the home, his vehicle was seen, according to police,

501
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Speaker 4: driving all over the area on surveillance video, and then

502
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Speaker 4: they were able to track him by piecing all of

503
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Speaker 4: that video together, going from Moscow back over the state

504
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Speaker 4: lie the Pullman Washington, parking at the apartment complex there.

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Speaker 4: So there are a lot of aspects of the perfect

506
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Speaker 4: crime that wasn't so perfect here that maybe he didn't

507
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Speaker 4: think about the other times he had been at the home,

508
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:16,920
Speaker 4: the vehicle being on video, turning on his cell phone

509
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Speaker 4: as he was pulling back into the apartment complex and

510
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:22,000
Speaker 4: then pinging that he had just turned it back on

511
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Speaker 4: shortly after the murders. So there are a lot of

512
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Speaker 4: things that they were able to put together here. The

513
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Speaker 4: other thing we don't know, guys, did they ever look

514
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Speaker 4: at anybody else? And no doubt his public defender is

515
00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:34,399
Speaker 4: going to ask that was he the only suspect who

516
00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:38,080
Speaker 4: they zeroed in on from the beginning to the exclusion

517
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Speaker 4: of anybody else who may have been out there? And

518
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Speaker 4: based on the Affidavid, you would think, and there's a

519
00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:44,600
Speaker 4: gag order now so that they're not willing to say

520
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Speaker 4: a whole lot, but the Affidavid, you would think that

521
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Speaker 4: there was nobody else that they ever looked at That

522
00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:51,560
Speaker 4: could be a problem for them. But there may have

523
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Speaker 4: been numerous other people that they just don't mention, an

524
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Speaker 4: that we don't know about it.

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Speaker 2: I questioned some other people, you know, like the boyfriend

526
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Speaker 2: was one of the girls.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean there were the people who were just

528
00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 4: naturally around them at that time that they had to exclude.

529
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,040
Speaker 4: But to actually be looking at it as a suspect,

530
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Speaker 4: did they narrow in on only him? And over time

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Speaker 4: we'll find that out. But speaking of those other people,

532
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:16,520
Speaker 4: then you get into there were other people their names

533
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 4: were you know, carried through the mud on this of

534
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:25,800
Speaker 4: boyfriends and uber driver, the food delivery driver from the

535
00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:30,479
Speaker 4: food truck people who on social media, on Facebook, on Reddit,

536
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Speaker 4: they began pinging these people as being the pinning them

537
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Speaker 4: as being the murderers and they had nothing to do

538
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Speaker 4: with it. And allegedly it comes down to this guy

539
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:42,119
Speaker 4: who totally out of the blue. None of the families, No,

540
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:44,800
Speaker 4: we don't know if any of the victims knew, came

541
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Speaker 4: into their lives and allegedly went into that home and

542
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Speaker 4: killed them.

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Speaker 1: All right, Alex, one more quick question now if you

544
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Speaker 1: know this was he on social media at all? Did

545
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Speaker 1: they find anything that he ever posts?

546
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Speaker 4: You know, nothing that we've seen doesn't seem like he

547
00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:58,919
Speaker 4: has a lot of social media activity. We do know

548
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:03,280
Speaker 4: that he posted and read it a poll that police

549
00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 4: found that he put up a couple of months ago

550
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Speaker 4: when he wanted people to weigh in on the psychology

551
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:14,040
Speaker 4: of a criminal and their take on on criminal psychology.

552
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:17,320
Speaker 4: But beyond that, nothing that that we've seen or social

553
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 4: media pictures or anything like that. So a little bit

554
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 4: at least we know he was on Reddit, but beyond

555
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:23,119
Speaker 4: that no, all right, Alex, have.

556
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 2: A good weekend.

557
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:26,880
Speaker 1: Appreciate you coming on you too, Thanks guys. All Right,

558
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Speaker 1: Alex Stone, ABC News for KFI. Following the Idaho college

559
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Speaker 1: student murders, and this freak, this evil Brian Cooberger, who

560
00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 1: best weakened surmise, probably wanted to see what it was

561
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:40,760
Speaker 1: like to actually kill people and then see what it's

562
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Speaker 1: like to be investigated and maybe even get away with

563
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Speaker 1: the crime.

564
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Speaker 2: To figure out. I bet you there's a lot of

565
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 2: people who fantasize about committing the perfect crime. What would

566
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Speaker 2: all have to do to get away?

567
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Speaker 1: When there have been books crittin about it, movies made

568
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 1: you know, yeah fictionalized, yeah.

569
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Speaker 2: And you just you do it as an intellectual exercise.

570
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Speaker 1: Just a lot of murders are not solved, right, So yeah, right,

571
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Speaker 1: I mean for him to try if he wants, if

572
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:06,000
Speaker 1: his idea was to pull off the perfect crime, he

573
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:07,960
Speaker 1: picked a very messy one to do.

574
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Speaker 2: To go after four people with a big knife and

575
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Speaker 2: just repeatedly stab.

576
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Speaker 1: Them, that creates just an enormous or mass evidence and

577
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 1: right as opposed to acting like a sniper and picking

578
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Speaker 1: somebody off, right, it's.

579
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Speaker 2: All tougher to do for two reasons. Today.

580
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Speaker 1: It's because we have a lot of video surveillance and

581
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:36,240
Speaker 1: we have DNA, Yeah, a lot of elaborate ways to

582
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:39,120
Speaker 1: track DNA and the cell phone tracking too, and the

583
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:40,720
Speaker 1: cell phone and he should know that, I mean he

584
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 1: didn't turn.

585
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Speaker 2: It off, but he didn't always have it off. Yeah,

586
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:46,000
Speaker 2: but he should know that they were going to track

587
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 2: all the other visits that he made, I mean twelve

588
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:51,080
Speaker 2: other visits. He's twenty eight, so he's grown up in

589
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:55,720
Speaker 2: this era. He knows how everything is is capable of

590
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:58,880
Speaker 2: being tracked. He knows there's video cameras everywhere, a digital

591
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 2: footprint you leave behind on your phone. It's kind of

592
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:05,720
Speaker 2: odd that he was so meticulous and sloppy at the

593
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Speaker 2: same time.

594
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Speaker 1: All Right, we're coming up Johnny ken caf I am

595
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Speaker 1: six forty Live everywhere the iHeartRadio app. Funeral services for

596
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Speaker 1: the Riverside County Sheriff's Deputy Isaiah Cordero will be talking

597
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:20,000
Speaker 1: about it after two o'clock. He was shot and killed

598
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 1: while on duty last month. It was a traffic stop

599
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:24,840
Speaker 1: and the murderer should not have been on the streets.

600
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Speaker 1: How many times do we see this story? This is

601
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Speaker 1: a guy that was a three striker with an incredibly

602
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Speaker 1: long violent criminal history of Blake Trolley is covering the

603
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Speaker 1: memorial service.

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Speaker 2: He'll talk to us.

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Speaker 1: After the news at two o'clock and we got a

606
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Speaker 1: heads up that Monday the Riverside County Sheriff Chad Bianco

607
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:46,440
Speaker 1: will join us, who can give us a lot more

608
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Speaker 1: details on this evil person that killed the shit.

609
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Speaker 2: You know, there's a rebellion going against that judge, and

610
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Speaker 2: I think that judge needs to be removed.

611
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Speaker 1: This is Yeah, we understand it's not just this case

612
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Speaker 1: or something. Is that what Steve was saying the other

613
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Speaker 1: day that there's lot of questions being ready.

614
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think they're looking into her record. But

615
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 2: what she did, uh with this letting him go free

616
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:09,960
Speaker 2: on bail when really he should have be sentenced on

617
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Speaker 2: a third strike and put away for a very long time.

618
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Speaker 2: It's just unconscionable, Just absolutely incompetent and conscionable. I mean,

619
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Speaker 2: I mean, what are what are these people trying to do?

620
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:26,280
Speaker 2: They're really trying to destroy society. You're you're letting, You're

621
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Speaker 2: letting guys who are who have a long record and

622
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 2: they're capable of killing cops run a mock? What are

623
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 2: you doing? How's that? Hell? That? That's not making life good? Here?

624
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 1: I have good news and bad news on the Idaho killer.

625
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 1: Brian Coberger Idaho does have the death penalty. You probably

626
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:47,000
Speaker 1: heard yesterday. He does face the possibility of being sentenced

627
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 1: to death, which caused me to puzzle a bit. We

628
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Speaker 1: never really talk about Idaho with the execution desk, do we?

629
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 2: No?

630
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 1: Do they as because the last time they executed somebody

631
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Speaker 1: was ten years ago. The excuse something in twenty eleven

632
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Speaker 1: and another one in twenty twelve. And then I found

633
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Speaker 1: this story was the bad news and here is the headline,

634
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Speaker 1: and it's only from last November. Idaho inmates execution canceled.

635
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Speaker 1: State doesn't have lethal injection chemicals?

636
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 2: Well, why don't they buy some? It's always the same question,

637
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 2: isn't it. Well, yeah, which means that's not the real reason.

638
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 2: It means there's somebody in the chain of given some fentanyl. Yeah,

639
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:31,280
Speaker 2: it's not hard to kill people.

640
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Speaker 1: People are dying all the time from drug overdoses. That's

641
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 1: probably a fairly peaceful way to go.

642
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 2: I mean, just just slip them, you know, one of

643
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 2: those fake adderall pills.

644
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Speaker 1: Chemicals used in lethal injections are not regulated by the FDA,

645
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 1: and they cannot be prescribed by a licensed physician. Well,

646
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Speaker 1: that's a long opinion from twenty nineteen found the FDA

647
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 1: doesn't have jurisdiction over drugs used in lethal injection.

648
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Speaker 2: How many people died of opioids that were prescribed by

649
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 2: physician and then went to CVS and Walmart and got

650
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 2: the prescription and it was manufactured by like Purdue Pharmaceuticals,

651
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Speaker 2: a legitimate pharmaceutical company. So they're killing people by the

652
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Speaker 2: hundreds of thousands easily every year. And it's a collection

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Speaker 2: of pharmaceutical companies, distribution chains like CVS and Walmart, and

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Speaker 2: doctors and pharmacists who are putting the prescriptions together. So

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Speaker 2: that's killing you know, one hundred thousand people a year.

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Speaker 2: Does Everyone's just so full of it, you'll like this.

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Speaker 1: Apparently for some time, Idaho permitted the firing squad.

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Speaker 2: Well what happened to that?

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Speaker 1: It says here, despite passage of the bill, the state

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Speaker 1: never used the firing squad between nineteen eighty two and

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Speaker 1: two thousand and nine. The only execution performed at that

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Speaker 1: time was in nineteen ninety four, and it.

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Speaker 2: Was lethal injection.

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Speaker 1: I don't know is that off the two thousand and

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Speaker 1: nine they got rid of the firing squads.

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Speaker 2: I think they had hanging. That's good stuff. It's firing.

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Speaker 3: Hanging.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's a hanging. Could go wrong Sometimes

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Speaker 1: people just linger there on the eh.

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Speaker 2: If you just get accompetent people.

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Speaker 1: Execution only goes wrong if the person doesn't die. Just

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Speaker 1: to make sure they don't hang them sins because they

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Speaker 1: don't die quickly. These are murderers on people self.

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Speaker 2: Hang in their in their bedroom closets all the time,

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Speaker 2: in the bathroom. I know it can't be that hard.

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Speaker 1: They do, but we don't know whether or not it

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Speaker 1: took a couple of hours for them to suck in

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Speaker 1: their last breath.

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Speaker 2: Ii're the guy who did Epstein.

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Speaker 1: They they also discovered that Brian Coburger was cleaning up

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Speaker 1: his car when he got to Pennsylvania with his father

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Speaker 1: that cross country trip. They have video of him cleaning

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Speaker 1: out the car, throwing out trash. He was trying to

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Speaker 1: take care of the details of his crime. But I

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Speaker 1: guess that knife, that knife sheath that he left there

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Speaker 1: and then all the uh, I mean, the key really

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Speaker 1: was I think the Lantra video, the Hyundai Lantra video

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Speaker 1: which they paint stakingly used to track only so many

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Speaker 1: cars that it could be. What puzzled me about that

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Speaker 1: is he had that car registered in Pennsylvania and then

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Speaker 1: about a week after the murders, he did change it

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Speaker 1: to Idaho. And I don't know whether or not that

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Speaker 1: timeline there helped or hurt them when they tried to

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Speaker 1: track the car as well as you know, his identity.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, interesting, I don't know. I don't know, but they

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Speaker 2: you know, they that once they had an A launcher

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Speaker 2: registered to him and he lived only a few miles away.

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Speaker 2: I think that would have been the big Eureka moment.

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Speaker 1: All right, we'll be talking to Blake Trolley about the

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Speaker 1: funeral for the murdered Riverside County Sheriff's Deputy Isaiah Cordero.

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Speaker 1: After that, we're going to tell you that Welcome to California.

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Speaker 1: Effective this new year, up to seventy thousand vehicles, trucks

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Speaker 1: and buses are no longer legal on the roads of California.

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Speaker 1: They're not legal.

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Speaker 2: They fucked out what trucks and buses these are.

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