1 00:00:07,560 --> 00:00:11,320 Speaker 1: You're listening to Waiting on Reparations production of I Heart Radio. 2 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:18,239 Speaker 1: Welcome to another episode coming to you. A lot to 3 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:20,239 Speaker 1: take from the land of the episode set, some of 4 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 1: my best lines taking into the headlines. Keep them with 5 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:24,640 Speaker 1: the best. Try straights in the record farm because I 6 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:26,760 Speaker 1: came to play some chest. It's nigga sticking to check 7 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 1: the foar sticking time or Topple went into a megaphone. 8 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 1: But maybe I can check my reper president little heads 9 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 1: of dest But I'm watching to see the set of 10 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 1: the rest of them. Told rappers get their chest exposed. 11 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 1: I don't fold. I just break the mold. Homie. You 12 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 1: can do what you were told how to funk? They 13 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:43,879 Speaker 1: let Tom Brady we're super Bowl? What the hell according 14 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 1: people be on some new ship? Bernie the book alook, 15 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 1: But the funk? Are they stupid to make a few 16 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 1: cents to people with true grift and get you upon 17 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 1: their Patreon Give him a few cents for that dope 18 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 1: knife I'm leaving for and we are waiting on reparations. 19 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:08,039 Speaker 1: So Mac, how you've been feeling in the aftermath of 20 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:14,479 Speaker 1: the transition presidentially this past week? To be honest, I've 21 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:18,120 Speaker 1: been trying my hardest not to like pay attention to 22 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 1: politics for a good amount of time, but I mean, 23 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 1: I can it's unsuccessful obviously. I just I can't help. 24 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 1: I can't imagine how you would do that. I don't 25 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:28,120 Speaker 1: I don't even not even like as a person in 26 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:30,199 Speaker 1: the twenty one century, but like you as a person. 27 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 1: I don't want to describe it as like it's it's 28 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:35,760 Speaker 1: like a train wreck that you can't look away from, 29 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 1: because that's not necessarily the case, but there is just 30 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 1: it's like the fucking most interesting show on television at 31 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 1: this point. You know, I just keep finding myself going 32 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 1: back and wanting to see what's going on this season 33 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 1: and feeling like a missing stuff each day that I 34 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 1: I whatever, a day goes by that I don't watch 35 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 1: the news, but I mean, I don't know. It's it's 36 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 1: it's a weird, funky feeling. It's like a mixture of 37 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 1: being relieved and that kind of you know, gives a 38 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:10,520 Speaker 1: dash of optimism, and then it's a bit of an 39 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:12,839 Speaker 1: up and down thing. You know. One day I hear 40 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:15,400 Speaker 1: something that Biden's doing that I dig, and then another 41 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:17,520 Speaker 1: day I hear something that Democrats are doing that I 42 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 1: don't dig, And the next day I hear something Biden's doing. 43 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 1: Then I don't dig, and then the next day, Oh, 44 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 1: it seems like your Chuck Shooter has got a spine, 45 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It's it's it's going off 46 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:30,080 Speaker 1: and on. I think that's really getting to me, is 47 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 1: that you're not hearing really about what Trump's up to, 48 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 1: and it's making me really nervous, Like I'm scared, like 49 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 1: that he's like secretly meeting with the Proud Boys or 50 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 1: like I don't know, like there's something like, you know, 51 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 1: I would prefer to know what my enemies are up 52 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 1: to at all times. Maybe that's just me to like 53 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 1: keep an eye on them, Like, Okay, I can see, 54 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:53,640 Speaker 1: like you know, if you if you're in the woods, 55 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:56,640 Speaker 1: you like hear footsteps behind you, You're like, well, what's that? 56 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 1: But like if you really see the bear, you're like, 57 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:00,920 Speaker 1: all right, I know where the bear is. If I 58 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 1: want to run from the bear, I know what direction 59 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:05,680 Speaker 1: to run away from. But if you're just like don't 60 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 1: there's there's just no sign of life. You don't know 61 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 1: what direction the enemy could be coming from. That's how 62 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 1: I feel with like Trump somewhat out of the news, 63 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:19,079 Speaker 1: not like tweeting every day or like doing some function 64 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 1: power to like destroy all of our lives with I 65 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:26,240 Speaker 1: think that with what we're talking about today is actually 66 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 1: gonna be a little bit of a uh justification or 67 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:33,639 Speaker 1: your fears a little bit, because we're gonna be talking 68 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 1: about these pardons that Trump did on his way out, 69 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 1: and just you know, when listeners, when you'll hear us 70 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 1: talking about it. I mean a lot of this stuff, 71 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 1: you guys have have been heard about this, but I 72 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 1: mean when you hear about the nature of it and 73 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 1: just get like the full rundown of it. Some of 74 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 1: it is so like on its face corrupt that you 75 00:03:56,720 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 1: can only imagine what type of ship Trump is up 76 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 1: to with out cameras all in his business right now. No, man, 77 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 1: it freaks me out. I don't feel relieved. I do 78 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 1: feel a sense of like like I am surprised by 79 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 1: like how little disappointment I feel so far about the 80 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:16,480 Speaker 1: Biden administration. Like it's I don't know, I feel like 81 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 1: it's kind of hard to be worse than the Trump administration. 82 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 1: And it's like, you know, I kind of like shipped 83 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 1: on lips being like, oh, you know, it's gonna be 84 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 1: back to normal podcast. I feel like getting punched in 85 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 1: the face every day for like years, and then so 86 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 1: you get stopped getting punched in the face. You still 87 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:40,920 Speaker 1: need to see a doctor, like your jaw is broken 88 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 1: and you can't you're blinded, and like your nose needs reconstruction. 89 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 1: But like it feels good to just to not be 90 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:50,719 Speaker 1: punched in the face anymore. Well, I mean, as a 91 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 1: result of that sort of relief, Biden is experiencing one 92 00:04:56,800 --> 00:05:00,039 Speaker 1: hell of a honeymoon period. I think he has a 93 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 1: sixty two approval rating or something like that. Yeah, and 94 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:07,839 Speaker 1: then like across the board, every single aspect of his 95 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:12,559 Speaker 1: COVID planning has a sixty plus you know, approval rating. 96 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:18,039 Speaker 1: So because the Trump administration was so horrible, you know, 97 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 1: Biden has got a little bit of extra political capital 98 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:25,719 Speaker 1: that I think anybody really expected. So, you know, so far, 99 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:27,720 Speaker 1: it seems like, you know, they're grabbing the bull by 100 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:30,599 Speaker 1: the horns. They're taking it. They've got Bernie in there. 101 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:35,799 Speaker 1: He's he's he's whispering ship and motherfucker's ear, you know, hopefully, 102 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 1: I mean obviously, you know, no one wants to do, 103 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 1: you know, fucking kid themselves and act like the Democrats 104 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:46,040 Speaker 1: are about to get this ship right or whatever, but 105 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 1: people are all are seperate, all about kidding themselves. Well, 106 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I don't themselves right now. I 107 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 1: don't hate on anybody for being happy, especially if you live. 108 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 1: If you're a lib y'all won you know what I'm 109 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 1: saying across the board. So it's like I get it. 110 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:03,280 Speaker 1: I'm not saying I agree with it, It's just I 111 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:06,360 Speaker 1: get it. You know. It's just important that people I 112 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:09,839 Speaker 1: think I think it's gonna come out in the years 113 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:13,279 Speaker 1: that that past is, like, the more that they really 114 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:17,839 Speaker 1: start looking into the things that went down in the 115 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:21,720 Speaker 1: Trump administration, not just this tumultuous ship that's been going on, 116 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 1: you know, in the post election, but just throughout it, 117 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 1: I think we're gonna like get a clear picture of 118 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:34,359 Speaker 1: just how close we worked to the abyss, you know 119 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, on like every front. And I think 120 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:41,279 Speaker 1: that will in turn extend, you know, the more that 121 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 1: the mainstream media you know, plays it up and keeps 122 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:47,919 Speaker 1: that ship in the face of the American public, I 123 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 1: think that will extend Joe Biden's honeymoon period. You know 124 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. If every day you're hearing some horrible 125 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 1: ship about Like yo, y'all have no idea how close 126 00:06:56,960 --> 00:06:59,360 Speaker 1: we were to World War three, you know what I'm saying, 127 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:02,720 Speaker 1: Like for real, real or like yo, the economy like 128 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:06,039 Speaker 1: almost crashed like twelve times and none of us knew 129 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 1: because they were hiding the you know. You know. Well, 130 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 1: Today we're gonna talk about the last days of the 131 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 1: Trump presidency, notably the presidential pardons of a hundred forty 132 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 1: three people, but chiefly among those since we are hip 133 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 1: hop show, those of Kodak Black and Little Wayne, talk 134 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 1: a little bit about what they've been up to since then. 135 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 1: We're also going to get into some new music, some 136 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 1: new songs from Kodak Black and Little Wayne on their 137 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 1: you know postparton High Yeah, as well as new new 138 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 1: joint by Afro and Taller Quality. And we're gonna just 139 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 1: talk a little bit about the first days of the 140 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 1: Biden administration. Have we're feeling about how it's going in 141 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 1: a little more detail, looking at some of his executive 142 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 1: orders in this plus six hundred that's been going on. 143 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 1: As Georgians, I well as a George and I have 144 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 1: a lot to say. We'll be with that right after 145 00:07:56,160 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 1: the job. All right, So before we get into all 146 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 1: of this yammering that we're about to do, why don't we, 147 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 1: you know, started off with some additional yamer and what 148 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 1: don't you tell them what exactly is a presidential party. 149 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 1: Let's end them a little bit of public policy, you know. So, um, 150 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 1: federal pardon is an action that can be taken by 151 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 1: the President of United States that completely sets aside punishment 152 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 1: for federal crime. It's grammed by Article two, section to 153 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:36,199 Speaker 1: Clause one of the U. S. Constitution, and it's one 154 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 1: form of clemency power of the president has. So you know, 155 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 1: you can also commuter sentence, you can remiss a fine 156 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:49,199 Speaker 1: or you know, restitution for a crime, or grant reprieve. 157 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:52,560 Speaker 1: And actually it's interesting a person may also decide not 158 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:56,080 Speaker 1: to accept a pardon, in which case it doesn't take effectum. 159 00:08:56,160 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 1: According to Supreme Courtmatory opinion and verdict versus United States Um, 160 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 1: a pardon carries an imputation of guilt and acceptance acceptance 161 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 1: of a confession of it. So, I mean, if you 162 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 1: are pardoned, you are innocent of the crime. It's not 163 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 1: simply that your punishment for the crime is no longer 164 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 1: um carried out. Under the Constitution, the president's clemency power 165 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 1: extends to all federal criminal offenses and except cases of impeachment. 166 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:26,840 Speaker 1: Interesting good to know. You know, you might have heard 167 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 1: this before. With the whole thing with Trump is so 168 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:33,559 Speaker 1: he can't do anything when it comes to state crimes. 169 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:37,079 Speaker 1: So if you're somebody who's been pardoned and you've done 170 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 1: a bunch of stuff that's illegal in the state of Nebraska, 171 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 1: and Nebraska can still come after your ass even though federally. 172 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 1: Is that also why like never mind, I don't know 173 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 1: what I was gonna talk about the fact that like, oh, 174 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 1: they wouldn't prosecute him for anything while he was president, 175 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:57,839 Speaker 1: but like meanwhile, like ye know, it was like you know, 176 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 1: we're piling up cases. Oh yeah, New York is going 177 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:04,080 Speaker 1: after that. Aside, like you were saying that you were 178 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 1: worried about what he's up to, don't worry. Part of 179 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:08,959 Speaker 1: it is that he's off doing some evil planning. But 180 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 1: there's another good chunk of the reason you haven't heard 181 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 1: from him is because his lawyers are telling them to 182 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:18,079 Speaker 1: keep his mouth shut because there are cases, there's civil 183 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:21,440 Speaker 1: and state cases that are being built up right now 184 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:25,160 Speaker 1: out the ass. So when Trump is not going to 185 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:26,960 Speaker 1: be out of the news, Like I was thinking this 186 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:29,200 Speaker 1: the other day because I was like, you know, seeing 187 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:31,720 Speaker 1: a bunch of thumbnails on YouTube that had him, and 188 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 1: I was like, man, why the funk are people still 189 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 1: talking about Trump every day and he's not the president? 190 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 1: And then it was like, oh, wait, I've never in 191 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 1: my lifetime seeing a former president that committed this many 192 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 1: crimes leave office. You know what I'm saying, He's gonna 193 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 1: be in the news for the next four years. People 194 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:53,080 Speaker 1: just need to get used to that. And that's not 195 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 1: necessarily the media trying to keep him in your face. 196 00:10:57,160 --> 00:11:01,200 Speaker 1: Like I mean, a president how been like fifty cases 197 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 1: is a big deal you you would want them to 198 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:06,200 Speaker 1: report on that ship. Yeah, So the full extent of 199 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:09,200 Speaker 1: the president's power to pardon, it's something that's actually not 200 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 1: been fully resolved. Pardons have been used for presumptive cases 201 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:16,839 Speaker 1: of crime. So like, for example, when President Gerald Ford 202 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:20,080 Speaker 1: pardon Richard Nixon, who hadn't been charged with anything but 203 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 1: just in case he did some crimes connected with Watergate, um. 204 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 1: But the Supreme Court is never um considered legal effectiveness 205 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 1: of such pardons, and it's send disagreement about how um 206 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:37,839 Speaker 1: pardon power applies in cases involving obstruction of an impeachment. 207 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 1: So again, the peature is sort of like sort of 208 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:44,680 Speaker 1: off limits territory, and we're not really sure in the theory, 209 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 1: like all of this ship is in theory um. And 210 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:51,719 Speaker 1: then the ability for a president to pardon themselves has 211 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 1: never been tested in the courts because the president has 212 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 1: ever tried. I'm frankly surprised that part Trump didn't just 213 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 1: like I pardoned myself for anything, even though like we 214 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:05,720 Speaker 1: start talking about with like the state of New York, 215 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 1: like they're the states are coming from. Even if he 216 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 1: were to federally to part himself of any federal crimes, 217 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:14,959 Speaker 1: but I have a sense that it wouldn't work. I 218 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 1: have a sense that if if the people who are 219 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:21,439 Speaker 1: advising him legally really thought that it could help hold up, 220 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:23,520 Speaker 1: given that it's never been tested, I think he would 221 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 1: have done it. Yeah. There's also a speculation of whether 222 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 1: secret pardons are possible, and Trump's former concierly Michael Cohen 223 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 1: his his raised this specter as well. He says he 224 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 1: thinks that Trump probably has attempted to do a bunch 225 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:45,200 Speaker 1: of secret pardons. Now, Um, that man don't know how 226 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 1: to keep a secret for his life, So I doubt 227 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 1: that I'm gonna do shady, unethical things and everybody to know. 228 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 1: Like we've been saying. One of the features of the 229 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:57,840 Speaker 1: four unfortunate years of Trump's presidency has been the series 230 00:12:57,880 --> 00:13:02,440 Speaker 1: of unethical pardons out the gate of the game, starting 231 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 1: with the corrupt racist Arizona Sheriff Joe R. Pio in 232 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 1: year one. Now. Poio had been accused of numerous types 233 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 1: of police misconduct, including abuse of power, misuse of funds, 234 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 1: failure to investigate sex crimes, criminal negligence, abuse of suspects 235 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 1: and custody, improper clearances of cases, unlawful enforcement of immigration laws, 236 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 1: and election law violations, all on a sesame seed. But 237 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:30,440 Speaker 1: it's like a caricature of a police of like what 238 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 1: you think like a sheriff is he's like literally causing 239 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:38,720 Speaker 1: all the crimes, the number one crime doer of like 240 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 1: the thing I got Batman after him and shipped with 241 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:46,439 Speaker 1: this fucking rapture for real. Um yeah, so that was 242 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 1: week one, Yeah, But on the way out a week ago, 243 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 1: Trump put up a dizzying list of last second part 244 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 1: in hundred forty three if I'm not mistaken, which had 245 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 1: added which added to the dozens he had handed out 246 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:02,840 Speaker 1: weeks before. Now, to be fair, there are a number 247 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 1: of names, um, people within this list that legitimately should 248 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:08,679 Speaker 1: no longer be in prison or shouldn't have been there 249 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 1: to begin with. Um. And you know, pulled a couple 250 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:16,720 Speaker 1: of cases here, like Lynn Barney, who was sending thirty 251 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 1: five months in prison for possessing a firearm as a 252 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 1: previously convicted fat fell in after having been convicted for 253 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 1: distributing a small amount of marijuana. According to the White House, 254 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 1: so like out of gun had committed a crime. Beflore 255 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 1: toldom Lane doesn't sound that bad to me personally. There's 256 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 1: also David Baron. Trump commuted the sentence of David Baron, 257 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 1: who was sentenced to life in prison in addition to 258 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 1: twenty years for drug conspiracy charges. In two thousand seventeen, 259 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 1: President Barack Obama commuted his life term to a thirty 260 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 1: year sentence. Was in that bipartisanship. The White House said 261 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 1: Baron is a father of six children and has maintained 262 00:14:56,160 --> 00:15:00,120 Speaker 1: an exemplary prison record. Petition advocating for further clemency for 263 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 1: Baron's release has garnered nearly twenty thousand signatures. And then 264 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 1: there's Christina Boneen Camp, whose sentenced Trump commuted um after 265 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 1: she served more than ten years of a twenty four 266 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 1: year sentence for a non violent drug offense. I mean, 267 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 1: I mean okay. And so it's stuff like this that 268 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 1: to me makes sense of things like the pro Trump 269 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 1: politics of Angelistan King. Like I don't know if you'll 270 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 1: know about her, but stan King was convicted on a 271 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 1: federal conspiracy charge for her participation in a car theft 272 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 1: ring served two the years in prison, during which time 273 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 1: she gave birth to her daughter. February last year, Trump 274 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 1: granted Stanton Clinging clemency, and she appeared at the White 275 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 1: House afterward as part of a roundtable discussion in African 276 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 1: American history for you know, African American History month. Who 277 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 1: calls it? Then? Oh god, okay around dad was discussion 278 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 1: about history a month um. And then she went on 279 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 1: to make appearances the Drum campaign and numerous black voices 280 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 1: for Trump events and and this is the this is 281 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 1: the real kicker. She also went on to run as 282 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 1: a Republican against then incumbent John Lewis for Georgia's fifth 283 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 1: congressional district seat, and later that year went up against 284 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 1: Lewis's appointed successor candidate Nikima Williams after his passing. Now 285 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 1: she got fourteen percent of the vote. She supports Q 286 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 1: and on and she's anti LGBTQ. She generally sucks. But 287 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 1: she supported the right to vote for anyone released at 288 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 1: who had a felony conviction that after they get released 289 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 1: for JAM restored restoration of the voting rights, and as well, 290 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 1: she supported the First Step Act, which outlawed the handcuffing 291 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 1: of whim and during childbirth, which you know, she herself 292 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 1: claims to have experienced when she was in prison two 293 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 1: thousand four. She was shackled while giving birth and described 294 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 1: her daughter being snatched from her arms twenty four hours later. 295 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 1: So like, Okay, I'm not trying to give Trump any 296 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:06,679 Speaker 1: credit here whatsoever because obviously, but I think this is 297 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:09,959 Speaker 1: just like an interesting pattern and trajectory and wonder if 298 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:13,680 Speaker 1: we're on the left or like overlooking ship that could 299 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 1: be argued as like materially good that people that draw 300 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 1: people to the far right, like you know, fucking letting 301 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 1: you know, this lady had a baby in jail and he, 302 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:30,280 Speaker 1: you know, offered her clemency and she was like, Yo, 303 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:33,640 Speaker 1: that's dope. Hell yeah, I'm a Trump Republican now black 304 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 1: voices for Trump. What's up? And like, you know, I mean, 305 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 1: I get and I hear what you're saying, and I 306 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 1: get it. You know, when when you're somebody, when somebody 307 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 1: gives you a chance in a world where nobody gives 308 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 1: you a chance, you're gonna funk with them. And so 309 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:49,159 Speaker 1: I just like worry, I guess more so, I'm just 310 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 1: like worry about things like this. Well no, I mean, 311 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:55,720 Speaker 1: and that's at the end of the day, that's why 312 00:17:55,720 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 1: they do it. And that's why it's like usually always 313 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 1: disingenuous coming from conservatives in my opinion, just because it's 314 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 1: like I mean, they're definitely are quick to do things 315 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:11,960 Speaker 1: for like an individual somebody that they know or somebody 316 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:15,920 Speaker 1: that they have a relationship with, but they they don't 317 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:19,359 Speaker 1: think too much in terms of like people in doing 318 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:21,960 Speaker 1: things for the benefit of people, you know what I'm saying. 319 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:26,120 Speaker 1: I always hate going here, but like I personally know 320 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 1: women in from Liberia who escaped the Liberian Civil War 321 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:34,720 Speaker 1: who have had a lot worse done to them. That 322 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 1: don't believe in Q and on. So I'm just saying, 323 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:43,480 Speaker 1: it's not if everybody who was in a difficult situation. 324 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 1: And again, just to add to what you're the point 325 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 1: that you're making is like you gotta give credit where 326 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 1: credit to do. You know what I'm saying. You can't 327 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:56,840 Speaker 1: just boo who every single thing just because you don't 328 00:18:56,880 --> 00:19:01,439 Speaker 1: like Trump. So you know, there was some good that 329 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:03,399 Speaker 1: came out of these partners. There was a lot of 330 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:05,439 Speaker 1: good depending on you know, how you want to look 331 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 1: at it. But despite these corrections to justice, so to speak, 332 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:14,359 Speaker 1: there was a smorgess board of ghouls and goblins and 333 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:17,639 Speaker 1: fiends on this parting list. You ever, you've seen the 334 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:20,920 Speaker 1: Michael Jackson thriller video, you remember the part when him 335 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 1: and the girl are walking to Vincent Prices talking and 336 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 1: all the zombies are coming out of like the sewers 337 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 1: and the alleys and and and shipped and from under 338 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:30,960 Speaker 1: the ground. That's how Washington was looking right now with 339 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 1: the fucking partons that Trump leaned out. I mean, you 340 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 1: have literal war criminals, mass murderers, seven corrupt Republican congressmen 341 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 1: who were convicted of crimes, including Chris Collins, who was 342 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 1: videotaped doing insider trading at the White House, and then 343 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:54,879 Speaker 1: Duncan Hunter, Duncan Hunter who spent campaign funds on his 344 00:19:55,240 --> 00:20:00,960 Speaker 1: multiple side chicks and more and more, and with everything 345 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:05,160 Speaker 1: in trump Land. Uh, you know, Mariah kind of alluded 346 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 1: to it earlier. You've got to treat these pardons like 347 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:15,360 Speaker 1: they're a serious like they're serious legal documents. And Trump 348 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:19,359 Speaker 1: Land is known for its incompetencies. So some of the 349 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 1: wording on some of these pardons has apparently been so 350 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:27,160 Speaker 1: sloppy that it doesn't necessarily leave everybody off of the hook, 351 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 1: and some people might be open to, uh, further prosecution 352 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 1: down the line. Kimberly Well, who's a University of Baltimore 353 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:41,200 Speaker 1: law professors, told Business Insider, it says speaking about the pardons, 354 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 1: it says for his convictions, and that's it when referencing, uh, 355 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 1: someone like Paul Manafort. And that's different from what Richard 356 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:55,960 Speaker 1: Nixon wrote in his which actually had in quotes all 357 00:20:56,080 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 1: conceivable crimes instead of just for his convictions. So yeah, wait, 358 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:06,399 Speaker 1: you're fucked up. Yeah, I mean, like if you're gonna 359 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:09,440 Speaker 1: if you're gonna sucking try to you know, strong arm 360 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:11,399 Speaker 1: the office, then you might as well go all the 361 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 1: way with it. What the hell is this for his convictions? Bullshit? 362 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:17,360 Speaker 1: If you're gonna be like a fucking criminal, master criminal, 363 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:20,200 Speaker 1: you want to have a little bit more imagination than that. 364 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 1: But hopefully that is the case when some of these 365 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:26,879 Speaker 1: you know guys getting nailed, that would be so sweet, 366 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:31,640 Speaker 1: so sweet. Now what our eyes? You know? This being 367 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:35,640 Speaker 1: a hip hop show obviously is the pardons of Kodak 368 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:38,959 Speaker 1: Black and Lil Wayne. Yeah, the Krodak was in federal 369 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:43,119 Speaker 1: prison after pleading guilty to fire on its possession after 370 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 1: being detained at the Canadian American border. UM right around 371 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:51,400 Speaker 1: with the pandemic hit last year. UM. He still faced 372 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 1: his potential prison time after being indicted in a FELLO 373 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:59,720 Speaker 1: charge for first degree criminal sexual conduct or alleged lame 374 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 1: forcing himself onto a woman in two thousand sixt So 375 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 1: like like president, like pardoned. In a statement slash tweet, 376 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 1: Kodak said, I want to thank for the President Donald 377 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 1: Trump for his commitment to justice reform and shortening my sentence. 378 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:21,920 Speaker 1: I also want to thank everyone for their support and love. 379 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 1: It means more than you will ever know. I want 380 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:27,879 Speaker 1: to continue giving back, learning, and growing, and could I 381 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:31,480 Speaker 1: just say that every word in this tweet is capitalized 382 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:35,120 Speaker 1: and ask like the listeners as well as Mac what 383 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:38,440 Speaker 1: it is with like hip hop cats and like do 384 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:41,440 Speaker 1: you know what I'm talking about? It? Like you see 385 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 1: mad people on the t L like I want to 386 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:50,680 Speaker 1: thank the president. I think it's because it looks. It 387 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:53,439 Speaker 1: looks good when you like look at it, when you 388 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 1: like look at a paragraph like that where every word 389 00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:01,360 Speaker 1: has a capitalization. I don't know. Maybe I'm just being 390 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 1: they understands where this trend came from. It looks beautiful. 391 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:12,440 Speaker 1: Let us know. Enquiring minds are desperate for answers. It's 392 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 1: a tweet, so who knows. Maybe it's some Twitter thing. 393 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 1: I don't know about it. Your phone out of correct? 394 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:19,359 Speaker 1: I just I just got I just for years have 395 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 1: been curious about something like new What's do you know? 396 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 1: How to? Anyway? Is it? Is it? Like? Is it 397 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:29,399 Speaker 1: out of bounds for me to say that that doesn't 398 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 1: seem like Kodak wrote it? I mean I don't know that, man. No, 399 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, doesn't that seem like a PR thing? 400 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:39,200 Speaker 1: That's probably a publicist was like, yeah, I should probably 401 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:42,199 Speaker 1: say this. Then we had Little Wayne, who was the 402 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:44,800 Speaker 1: second one that we mentioned got pardoned, and a little 403 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:47,919 Speaker 1: Wayne had admitted to weapons charged back in December of 404 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 1: last year and was due to be sentenced later this month. 405 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:54,760 Speaker 1: He was facing ten years in jail before Trump swooped 406 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 1: in with the cape and the pardon, and he made 407 00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:59,480 Speaker 1: a statement as well, saying, I want to thank President 408 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:02,399 Speaker 1: Trump for recognizing that I have so much more to 409 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:06,520 Speaker 1: give to my family, my art, and my community. Back 410 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:09,720 Speaker 1: in October, many months before the part in, Wayne Piste 411 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:12,040 Speaker 1: off a bunch of people by posting a picture of 412 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:15,359 Speaker 1: Trumpet himself and professing support at for forty five ahead 413 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 1: of the election. In November, Pick was taken after an 414 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:21,920 Speaker 1: in person meaning they had to discuss the administration's Platinum Plan. 415 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:28,119 Speaker 1: Platinum Plan black people we discussed in the previous episode 416 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 1: um the back class, Yet I was having people were 417 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:34,600 Speaker 1: a little like the funk Bro. You guys heard it 418 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:37,280 Speaker 1: on this show, though it remains unknown, I would like 419 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 1: to see quantitative data on howers effective to sales and streams, 420 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:44,200 Speaker 1: if at all, because you know what, and I don't 421 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:48,680 Speaker 1: know if we really delved too deeply into this ongoing 422 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 1: eternal even debating, but you know, people separate the artists 423 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 1: from the art like I still put on you know, 424 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:58,639 Speaker 1: college dropout like whatever you know, like but but I 425 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 1: mean people upgrade the artists from the art. But I 426 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 1: think it's all circumstantial. It all depends on what that 427 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:10,679 Speaker 1: artist has. It all depends on what you have a 428 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:14,679 Speaker 1: problem with based on what you know that believe that artists. 429 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 1: Did you know what I'm saying. Yeah, I feel like 430 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:21,200 Speaker 1: there's also a linkage between social media presence and like 431 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:27,240 Speaker 1: media and then like art artistic consumption. So like somebody 432 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 1: might not be like I'm gonna intentionally never listening a 433 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 1: little way again, and they might be christof at him 434 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 1: and then follow him on Twitter, which would then lead 435 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:40,639 Speaker 1: them to not hear about his new song, which like 436 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:44,200 Speaker 1: it's like a like a like a two step process 437 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:48,120 Speaker 1: by which it does negatively impact them financially or like 438 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 1: in terms of artistic prominence. Well, I think with like 439 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:54,959 Speaker 1: a with music, especially, you know, you want to like, 440 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:57,479 Speaker 1: you know, you want to feel like you can relate 441 00:25:57,520 --> 00:25:59,680 Speaker 1: to the music you're listening to, because I mean with 442 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 1: the movie it's different. You could be like, hey, I 443 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:05,200 Speaker 1: funk with Arnold Schwarzenegger. Even though he's a Republican because 444 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:07,280 Speaker 1: he's playing the terminator, you know what I'm saying. But 445 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:10,199 Speaker 1: with like with music, especially with hip hop, you know, 446 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:12,879 Speaker 1: you want to feel some of that connection that hey, 447 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:15,719 Speaker 1: at the bare minimum, like I could hang out with 448 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:18,360 Speaker 1: this person and this person's like someone that's like me, 449 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:20,399 Speaker 1: and I guess it. Don't just depend for a social 450 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:22,560 Speaker 1: relationship put them through the music where you're like, oh, 451 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 1: I'm to be in the club of Drake. Yeah. Yeah. 452 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:28,640 Speaker 1: But if you think that Drake is like his personality 453 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:31,240 Speaker 1: is somebody that you wouldn't hang out with in real 454 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:35,440 Speaker 1: life or that you wouldn't tolerate, that's like it's like 455 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:38,800 Speaker 1: not we need UI exactly. I mean, that's that's just 456 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:41,000 Speaker 1: how I look at it. I mean, I I think 457 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:43,359 Speaker 1: that's what it comes down to. Somebody, somebody who can 458 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:50,879 Speaker 1: still listen to Little Wayne and listen to Kanye, I 459 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:56,119 Speaker 1: feel like they could probably tolerate a Trump supporter in 460 00:26:56,160 --> 00:27:00,119 Speaker 1: their life personally. And I'm not saying that's a bad thing. 461 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:04,240 Speaker 1: I'm just saying I can't. I you know, like I 462 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:07,000 Speaker 1: absolutely can't. So like for me, it's like I can't 463 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 1: it when I go back and listen to college dropout. 464 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 1: You know, I'm just I smoke too much weed maybe 465 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 1: or something. But my brain just can't help but connect 466 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:21,440 Speaker 1: what I'm hearing to what I know. Now you know 467 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Yeah, I mean, I can always appreciate 468 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:25,919 Speaker 1: it for the art that it is, but it just 469 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 1: has that little bit of difference from when you're watching 470 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 1: a movie, because you know, it's like a John Wayne's 471 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:35,920 Speaker 1: not playing John Wayne or or whatever whatever fucking movie 472 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:38,280 Speaker 1: you're watching. You can, you can, you can try your hardest, 473 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,320 Speaker 1: you can. You can just more easily lose yourself in 474 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:43,480 Speaker 1: the fantasy of a movie or a book if it's 475 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:45,520 Speaker 1: written by somebody that well, maybe not a book. A 476 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:47,719 Speaker 1: book kind of has the same sort of vibe. You 477 00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 1: think Layne's endorsement might have been a ploy to secure 478 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:56,560 Speaker 1: the pardon. You are probably right, You're most likely right. 479 00:27:56,680 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 1: But Wayne's lawyer, Bradford Cohen denies the speculation earli as 480 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:03,480 Speaker 1: he did to the n y T. He said, it 481 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:05,560 Speaker 1: never heard that someone gets a full understanding of an 482 00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:08,240 Speaker 1: individual when they're looking at just looking at a pizza paper. 483 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,359 Speaker 1: In hindsight, I guess it worked out. I think they 484 00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:13,800 Speaker 1: have a very strong connection. He's in the entertainment world. 485 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 1: He's got a style. It is similar in terms of 486 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:18,600 Speaker 1: the way it carries himself, and a lot of rappers 487 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,680 Speaker 1: and people in the industry relate to that. I've been 488 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:24,560 Speaker 1: saying that since the start of the show, these rappers 489 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:27,960 Speaker 1: funk with Trump Yo, And I saw this tweet that 490 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 1: I thought captured the significance of these particular partners perfectly. 491 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:35,159 Speaker 1: In essence, it said the failure of black capitalism as 492 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 1: a vehicle for black liberation is not seen anywhere as 493 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 1: clearly as in Trump partnering a couple of buck millionaires 494 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 1: like Wheezy and Kodak, while also pardoning his rich white 495 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:49,400 Speaker 1: supremacist cronies like Bandon. They are to these people all 496 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:52,040 Speaker 1: a part of the same class. It's all a big club. 497 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 1: Who said that? That is Bravo ship, right. I don't know, 498 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 1: some bitch like, hell yeah, girl, get it. I hope 499 00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 1: you live drive for that's what. But yeah, I mean, 500 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,880 Speaker 1: I agree agree with you that that's what it is. 501 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:10,440 Speaker 1: That's that's why it's like you know that, that's why 502 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:16,040 Speaker 1: you shouldn't trust these rappers. Man, you really should have 503 00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 1: fucking Fabulous had a really dope line in the song 504 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 1: back in the day where he said a lot of 505 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:25,520 Speaker 1: these rappers say that there for the hood. They're not. 506 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,720 Speaker 1: They're just from the hood. Not everybody who's from the 507 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:31,800 Speaker 1: hood is for the hood. And I feel like this 508 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:36,840 Speaker 1: hip hop flirtation with maggot ism, like encap encapsulates that 509 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:43,840 Speaker 1: quote to a t um. This isn't the first time 510 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:49,080 Speaker 1: that a disgraced, unpopular Republican president handed out confusing pardons 511 00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 1: to random rappers as he limped out of office in 512 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:56,840 Speaker 1: shame um. Back in two thousand eight, Fuji's affiliate John 513 00:29:56,920 --> 00:30:00,080 Speaker 1: Forte was among those pardoned by George W. Bush as 514 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:03,040 Speaker 1: he left office, and Forte was arrested back in two 515 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:06,360 Speaker 1: thousand for carrying a suitcase filled with one point four 516 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:11,200 Speaker 1: million dollars of liquid cocaine in the New York International Airport, 517 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 1: which like, let me just stop you right there for 518 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:19,200 Speaker 1: a second and say, the liquid that the ship that 519 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:25,240 Speaker 1: looked like a bomb, that's amazing, that's crazy. He had 520 00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:27,440 Speaker 1: he had a single out and everything. For the life 521 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:29,640 Speaker 1: of me, I'm usually good with this, but I would 522 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:33,520 Speaker 1: just like do a really high pitched bad singing of 523 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:35,680 Speaker 1: the hook, but I can't remember it for the life 524 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:38,360 Speaker 1: of me. But the audacity. You really got to marvel 525 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:42,080 Speaker 1: of the audacity. But yeah, he was when you have 526 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:50,400 Speaker 1: a record on the radio though words four millions come 527 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:58,520 Speaker 1: on man um he Jesus Christ. He was convicted with 528 00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:01,880 Speaker 1: the intent to distribute charge and was given a mandatory 529 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:05,560 Speaker 1: minimum of fourteen years in prison. So, with over a 530 00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:09,400 Speaker 1: decade having passed since Forte has been pardoned, there's been 531 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:12,240 Speaker 1: more light drawn onto the situation. And I'm sure that's 532 00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:15,680 Speaker 1: pretty much what's gonna happen with Wait in Kodak, We'll 533 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:17,800 Speaker 1: get all the details. You No one's gonna talk about 534 00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:21,880 Speaker 1: this yere right now. In a Forte's case, during his 535 00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:25,680 Speaker 1: travels as a rapper, he had become really good friends, 536 00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:28,920 Speaker 1: almost best friends, with a guy named Ben Taylor. And 537 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:34,000 Speaker 1: Ben Taylor's mother is famed singer songwriter Carly Simon, and 538 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:37,280 Speaker 1: she threw her resources and personal connects was able to 539 00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:40,200 Speaker 1: lobby Bush to get, you know, a pardon for John Forte. 540 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:43,880 Speaker 1: She since written exclusively about it. There's a Vanity Fair 541 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:49,280 Speaker 1: article from titled Brooklyn Bard where she refers to John 542 00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:52,200 Speaker 1: Forte as her godson. I mean, the whole entire article 543 00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:56,320 Speaker 1: is dedicated to this entire situation. Of her life in 544 00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:58,640 Speaker 1: getting John Forte out of jail and stuff like that. 545 00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:00,920 Speaker 1: It's a really interesting read. But what are your thoughts 546 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:03,240 Speaker 1: on this? This this one seems like a bit more. 547 00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:05,240 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't even I don't want to say 548 00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:07,560 Speaker 1: it's on the level, but I mean it is on 549 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:09,560 Speaker 1: a level. It's a big problem. You ain't in it 550 00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:15,640 Speaker 1: whether or not they're like using black people as like 551 00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:23,600 Speaker 1: political props to like cement key like support within key demographics, 552 00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:27,760 Speaker 1: or it's a matter of someone well connected through a 553 00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:32,120 Speaker 1: friend of a friend using their social capital, which is 554 00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:35,320 Speaker 1: a crude through being a millionaire to you know, lobby 555 00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:39,120 Speaker 1: a president for a pardon like this is always motherfucker's 556 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:43,080 Speaker 1: they on. They are on the same team, and we 557 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:47,960 Speaker 1: are not on it with them. That is true. That 558 00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:53,440 Speaker 1: is definitely true. The sad thing is that, um, I 559 00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:56,560 Speaker 1: don't think John Firte ever made any more albums, but 560 00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:58,800 Speaker 1: we're definitely gonna get a bunch of Kodak Black and 561 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:06,600 Speaker 1: Little Wayne songs. Yeah, there's that. No matter the case, 562 00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:11,160 Speaker 1: all those pardons, until otherwise revealed, are within the immense 563 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:14,640 Speaker 1: parton powers of the sitting president. And I don't think 564 00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:17,880 Speaker 1: that there's been a modern president that is like flex 565 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:21,760 Speaker 1: that as much as Trump has I mean, the rappers aside, 566 00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:24,000 Speaker 1: it's it's interesting, it's funny because you know, it's a 567 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:26,600 Speaker 1: hip hop show and stuff. But I mean, the mere 568 00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:36,959 Speaker 1: fact that Trump just brazenly pardoned black Water is like, 569 00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:40,960 Speaker 1: for real, The fact that anyone talks about anything other 570 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:43,680 Speaker 1: than that is bonkers. You know what I'm saying This 571 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:46,120 Speaker 1: This ship is fucking crazy. Yeah, I mean the new 572 00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:51,920 Speaker 1: cycle I since accelebrated both based on like what the 573 00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:54,520 Speaker 1: media environment is like now and also just the amount 574 00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:57,160 Speaker 1: of fucking crazy things happening in the last four years. 575 00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:01,160 Speaker 1: And I feel like that, like hypercceleration, it's just going 576 00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:04,200 Speaker 1: to become the norm now, even if like perhaps less 577 00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:09,280 Speaker 1: insane things happened constantly because we have slightly more competent leadership. 578 00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:12,920 Speaker 1: That is the ultimate dog whistle to me, though, is 579 00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:16,160 Speaker 1: those that pardon to those guys more than anything that 580 00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:18,800 Speaker 1: Trump and Trump is somebody who like woke up in 581 00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:21,560 Speaker 1: the morning randomly and tweeted out white power. But I 582 00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:25,200 Speaker 1: think that, like, oh man, I almost forgot about that. Sometimes. 583 00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:31,480 Speaker 1: I think pardoning some mass murderers who killed Iraqi women 584 00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:35,799 Speaker 1: and children in cold blood proven you know, what I'm saying, Like, 585 00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:39,000 Speaker 1: that's pretty much just saying, hey, it's okay to kill 586 00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:45,040 Speaker 1: brown people in a nutshell. That's that's the that's the 587 00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:48,600 Speaker 1: did before. But in case you were still wondering even too, 588 00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:51,640 Speaker 1: you know, yeah, weapons free, go ahead, Like if you 589 00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:54,200 Speaker 1: were like, oh no, no, no, I didn't think that, Like, 590 00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:56,640 Speaker 1: I just want to make sure, you know, I believe 591 00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:08,359 Speaker 1: mass slaughter of forens is okay by me, Like, yeah, unequivably. Now, 592 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:11,040 Speaker 1: speaking of presidential power, did you want to talk a 593 00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:13,120 Speaker 1: little bit of some of the flex and the Biden's 594 00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:15,560 Speaker 1: been doing here. Yeah, let's keep over this h n 595 00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:20,280 Speaker 1: r A stuff stuff to kind of burn out. Um, 596 00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:25,000 Speaker 1: don't you go ahead and enter that? So? Um, actually, 597 00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:27,120 Speaker 1: let me see if I can find a wiki real quick. 598 00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:31,680 Speaker 1: I do believe it's thirty. It's thirty so far. Yeah. 599 00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:38,440 Speaker 1: So yeah, So let's get into another immense presidential power 600 00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:42,120 Speaker 1: that's been on display too great links in the last week, 601 00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:45,839 Speaker 1: to the power of executive order. To An executive order 602 00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:49,320 Speaker 1: is a means of issuing federal directives by the President 603 00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:51,600 Speaker 1: of the United States to manage the operations of the 604 00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:56,120 Speaker 1: federal government. Um Article two of the United States Constitution 605 00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:59,400 Speaker 1: gives the president broad executive and enforcement authority to use 606 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:02,200 Speaker 1: his or herd to expression. Do you determine how to 607 00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:05,200 Speaker 1: enforce the law otherwise manage to the resources and staff 608 00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:10,319 Speaker 1: of the executive branch. So, um, they can just so 609 00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:13,200 Speaker 1: it's like I guess limited, Like executive orders were limited 610 00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:15,960 Speaker 1: to like things within the executive branch or the operations 611 00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,319 Speaker 1: of the government that they can control. They can't just 612 00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:22,400 Speaker 1: like decree new laws for all of us too. Yeah, 613 00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:25,440 Speaker 1: that's why. For example, one of his executive orders was 614 00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:28,239 Speaker 1: a mass mandate on federal property, because it's like, Okay, 615 00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:30,600 Speaker 1: if these are federal buildings that are run by the 616 00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:32,759 Speaker 1: federal government, then we can like force people there, but 617 00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:36,520 Speaker 1: we can't do it and say great Capitals or something 618 00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:40,880 Speaker 1: like that. They also kind of leave the policy open 619 00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:43,879 Speaker 1: to being altered whenever a new administration comes in, because 620 00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:46,880 Speaker 1: they can just pass executive orders and change everything up. 621 00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:50,759 Speaker 1: That's a concern that I feel a bit more relevant 622 00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:54,920 Speaker 1: to eight years ago. That really doesn't matter right now anymore. Well, 623 00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:56,520 Speaker 1: we'll get in taught in a little bit. Some of 624 00:36:56,560 --> 00:37:00,239 Speaker 1: these executive orders that he put out. Joe Biden and 625 00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:02,880 Speaker 1: had signed a flurry of these, UM, I believe it 626 00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:06,799 Speaker 1: was like twenty the first day and he had like 627 00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:09,480 Speaker 1: twenty more the next day. He's just he's signing executive 628 00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:13,839 Speaker 1: orders out there out the gate. Some people are kind 629 00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:15,799 Speaker 1: of wondering why they're doing Why are they're doing it 630 00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:18,040 Speaker 1: this way instead of rolling it out one at a 631 00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:21,200 Speaker 1: time to extend the news story and keep keep a 632 00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:24,680 Speaker 1: headline the way that Trump did. How would be one day, Hey, 633 00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:27,759 Speaker 1: I'm going to not feed children. Then the next day 634 00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:30,520 Speaker 1: it was like, hey, transgenders are illegal, and then the 635 00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:33,120 Speaker 1: next day he's like, hey, Mexicans need to leave like 636 00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:36,399 Speaker 1: and people were expecting Joe Biden to kind of make 637 00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:39,960 Speaker 1: these corrections on a day daily basis to make headlines. 638 00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:43,279 Speaker 1: But I actually like the strategy of just doing all 639 00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:46,440 Speaker 1: of it at once, just from the get go, because A, 640 00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:51,160 Speaker 1: you're getting more done quicker, and then let's keep it real. 641 00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:52,959 Speaker 1: People are stupid, and if you start doing these things 642 00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:56,160 Speaker 1: one by one, I can totally see people getting upset 643 00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:59,680 Speaker 1: that their particular issue isn't getting rectified first. And how 644 00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:02,160 Speaker 1: do you I mean, I was funny question to you 645 00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:04,399 Speaker 1: as someone that's followed politics for a little bit longer 646 00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:10,080 Speaker 1: than I have. Um when presidential candidates are any candidate 647 00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:12,319 Speaker 1: for that matter, says they're going to do something on 648 00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:18,200 Speaker 1: day one. Is that a rhetorical flourish, because like he 649 00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:20,040 Speaker 1: got a lot of ship done on day one, but 650 00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:24,160 Speaker 1: like the kids are still in cages, like and if 651 00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:26,680 Speaker 1: I'm not mistaken, on the campaign trail, like dealing with 652 00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:32,000 Speaker 1: migrant family separation and detainment was something he claimed to 653 00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:34,839 Speaker 1: like I'm gonna do on day one. So like I'm 654 00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:37,560 Speaker 1: not saying, like I'm I just want to understand what 655 00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:39,960 Speaker 1: these people mean when they say that I never meant that. 656 00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:42,120 Speaker 1: Then it's just like, oh, everyone else understands that he 657 00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:48,319 Speaker 1: just meant like soon things. I don't know this for 658 00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:52,160 Speaker 1: a fact, but I think that when they say day 659 00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:56,400 Speaker 1: one they kind of mean the first hundred days. But 660 00:38:56,760 --> 00:39:00,239 Speaker 1: it's it's definitely, it's definitely rhetorical. I mean the end 661 00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:03,480 Speaker 1: of the day. It's like, as much as I would 662 00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:07,440 Speaker 1: love for Biden to just go in there and like 663 00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:13,520 Speaker 1: wave the wine and undo stuff, I personally don't necessarily 664 00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:21,200 Speaker 1: want authoritarian authoritarian authoritarianism that I agree with, you know 665 00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:24,160 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So it's like I still I still 666 00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:27,239 Speaker 1: do would want him to like I wouldn't want him 667 00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:30,319 Speaker 1: to fucking strong arm the ship the way Trump did. HM. 668 00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:35,839 Speaker 1: But to a certain extent, I kind of do want 669 00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:37,759 Speaker 1: in a strong arm the ship the way Trump did 670 00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:40,760 Speaker 1: because I don't believe that we can work or Republicans anymore. 671 00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:43,840 Speaker 1: So I don't know that's where you were saying, you 672 00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:45,680 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. It's like again, it's like sometimes 673 00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:47,839 Speaker 1: I find myself slipping into the ship thinking that it's 674 00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:50,080 Speaker 1: two thousand twelve and that we're talking about Mitt Romney 675 00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:52,480 Speaker 1: and ship, and it's like, no, we're talking about literal Nazis. 676 00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:55,840 Speaker 1: So yeah, you know, I I actually the more that 677 00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:58,480 Speaker 1: I think about this in my head, I I agree 678 00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:02,040 Speaker 1: with strong arming it and I think that that should 679 00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:04,919 Speaker 1: be the way, because I mean, it's not looked. It's 680 00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:09,600 Speaker 1: not like the Republicans aren't going to strong arm ship 681 00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:12,120 Speaker 1: the next time that they get power, you know what 682 00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:16,600 Speaker 1: I'm saying. So it's like immediately, yeah, immediately, I mean 683 00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:20,600 Speaker 1: if it did, they just try to overturn the election violently, 684 00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:24,879 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So you can pretty much 685 00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:28,160 Speaker 1: expect the next time that there's a Republican president, on 686 00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:30,879 Speaker 1: day one, there's going to be executive orders like now, 687 00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:33,680 Speaker 1: you're allowed to eat poor people. It's gonna it's gonna 688 00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:35,799 Speaker 1: be crazy. They're just gonna like go full mask off 689 00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:39,160 Speaker 1: with it. Um. But let's get into some of these, 690 00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:41,759 Speaker 1: you know, some of these Biden has passed some of 691 00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:45,279 Speaker 1: the interesting ones. Yeah. So day one he signed an 692 00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:49,320 Speaker 1: executive order rejoining the Paris Agreement and climate change sign 693 00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:51,760 Speaker 1: you know, like in a creen of deal and nothing. 694 00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:59,800 Speaker 1: But it's one of those top campaign promises. Um And Okay, sure, 695 00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:01,640 Speaker 1: I don't know what are your what's your thoughts on that? 696 00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:04,359 Speaker 1: Like I feel it's a bare minimum And like I said, 697 00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:07,879 Speaker 1: I mean that that's one feels great because it's like 698 00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:11,239 Speaker 1: not getting punched in the face anymore after getting punched 699 00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:13,120 Speaker 1: in the face every day for the last four years. 700 00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:16,640 Speaker 1: And it is the first day, so you know. But 701 00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:19,759 Speaker 1: I mean again, like there's a lot of these corrective 702 00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:24,040 Speaker 1: things that have to be done that are really just 703 00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:28,040 Speaker 1: kind of, um, what's the word that I'm looking for. 704 00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:34,719 Speaker 1: It's really just kind of window dressing. Window dressing in 705 00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:38,000 Speaker 1: a way, because some of the real corrections that they 706 00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:40,800 Speaker 1: have to do within the to the damage that Trump 707 00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:44,640 Speaker 1: did is like not just as easy as signing an 708 00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:47,960 Speaker 1: executive order. Sure, there. I mean, like executive orders do 709 00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:50,600 Speaker 1: seem expansive in their power, but they aren't. Really. It's 710 00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:52,480 Speaker 1: just like, aren't they aren't. I mean, to be honest, 711 00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:56,480 Speaker 1: we were. We were making fun of of of Trump 712 00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:59,200 Speaker 1: and his flurry of executive orders for just how like 713 00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:02,359 Speaker 1: useless they truly were. So it's a it's a good 714 00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:05,040 Speaker 1: it's a good feel good thing, and it's a good 715 00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:09,040 Speaker 1: symbolic thing. And don't get me wrong, there's I'm sure 716 00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:11,000 Speaker 1: in most cases there are a lot of cases that 717 00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:15,359 Speaker 1: it's actually making tangible differences and corrections and stuff like that. 718 00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:17,960 Speaker 1: But for the most part, it feels good to like 719 00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:20,360 Speaker 1: stick it to the maggots, like how we're coming in 720 00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:22,400 Speaker 1: and we just changing all y'all ship you know what 721 00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:28,040 Speaker 1: I mean? That feels And have transgenders back in the military. 722 00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:33,960 Speaker 1: This is what you call unity, you know, nervous breakdowns. Um, yeah, 723 00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:37,399 Speaker 1: go for it. I was gonna say this one the 724 00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:41,000 Speaker 1: executive order. This is another it's another immigration one, but 725 00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:46,399 Speaker 1: the executive order revising immigration enforcement policies, revoking Trump error 726 00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:53,239 Speaker 1: policy that cracked down on communities shielding undocumented immigrants from deportation. Yeah. 727 00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:56,080 Speaker 1: That there was also another one that he signed that 728 00:42:56,120 --> 00:43:00,239 Speaker 1: pretty much makes librarians unde portable for like the next 729 00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:03,960 Speaker 1: three or four years. Graduation. Thank thank you, thank you 730 00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:09,160 Speaker 1: for that, family that thanks you for that. UM A 731 00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:13,839 Speaker 1: lot of immigration stuff, Memorandum strengthening DOTA, so you can 732 00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:19,240 Speaker 1: see where most of the Trump administration's focus was. Yeah, um, 733 00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:22,800 Speaker 1: as well, they pulled funds for the border wall, cancel 734 00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:26,839 Speaker 1: the Keystone pipeline. I think that's pretty dope because it's 735 00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:31,759 Speaker 1: like Dakota Access Pipeline next maybe you know, it's like 736 00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:34,600 Speaker 1: one of those that points towards perhaps better things to 737 00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:37,520 Speaker 1: come in future, whereas like the you know, getting back 738 00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:40,600 Speaker 1: in the Paris Climate Accords feels like they're going to 739 00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:43,560 Speaker 1: just like do that and then stop. Um like, oh 740 00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:49,400 Speaker 1: we didn't, hooray. Like, you know. They've also terminated federal 741 00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:53,080 Speaker 1: funding for private prisons, which is pretty dope. I mean, 742 00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:56,759 Speaker 1: prisons are still terrible and all of them should go. 743 00:43:57,360 --> 00:43:59,960 Speaker 1: And it doesn't it doesn't affect ice, it doesn't. TREK 744 00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:04,600 Speaker 1: I just kind of become its own paramilitary organizations of 745 00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:09,480 Speaker 1: salt of like understanding their true scope, just understanding that 746 00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:11,759 Speaker 1: the president is not a king, you know, like the 747 00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:17,080 Speaker 1: president is not a king. UM in in in moments 748 00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:21,200 Speaker 1: when you're coming off the hive, being on the winning 749 00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:24,640 Speaker 1: side of a political victory, it can sometimes, you know, 750 00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:28,920 Speaker 1: I feel good to like imagine, oh, man, wouldn't it 751 00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:30,880 Speaker 1: just be cool if the president was actually a king 752 00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:32,640 Speaker 1: and then we could just do all this cool dope 753 00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:34,839 Speaker 1: ship that I like. You know what I'm saying. But 754 00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:37,759 Speaker 1: you just got to keep in mind that the pendulum 755 00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:43,440 Speaker 1: always swings no matter what, no matter what, and you 756 00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:47,160 Speaker 1: guys have seen what these people are capable of. So 757 00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:50,640 Speaker 1: this isn't saying we shouldn't do anything because you know, 758 00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:54,720 Speaker 1: just like I said with in prior episodes, there's nothing 759 00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:59,120 Speaker 1: that the right wingers are going to do that they 760 00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:01,319 Speaker 1: were going to change the mind of because it wasn't 761 00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:03,560 Speaker 1: done to them first, you know what I'm saying. So 762 00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:09,800 Speaker 1: can I say my personal favorite, my personal favorite Executive 763 00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:13,760 Speaker 1: order um banned discrimination in the base of gender identity 764 00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:18,399 Speaker 1: or sexual orientation um UH and a move alotted by 765 00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:23,120 Speaker 1: LGBTQ advocate Spines, order extends federal non discrimination protections. Two 766 00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:26,680 Speaker 1: members of the LGBTQ community. Building off the landmark Supreme 767 00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:30,080 Speaker 1: Court decision in Bostock versus Clayton County Georgia last year 768 00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:33,720 Speaker 1: to expand protections against discrimination based on sex and federal 769 00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:36,919 Speaker 1: agencies to also include sexual orientation, gender identity, and gender 770 00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:39,000 Speaker 1: expression as well. And why are like this? I mean, 771 00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:41,600 Speaker 1: I think it's important, but like from just like a 772 00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:46,440 Speaker 1: purely like lizard brain standpoint, like I heard about it 773 00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:51,960 Speaker 1: because I heard turfs and transphobs were really pissed. And 774 00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:55,799 Speaker 1: like after Biden's talk about, you know, at the inauguration 775 00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:58,400 Speaker 1: about like unity and all of us coming together, I 776 00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:01,040 Speaker 1: was like, all right, cool, maybe is willing to piss 777 00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:04,880 Speaker 1: off the right people, like people like Oh, he's like 778 00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:09,040 Speaker 1: willing to make bad people angry sick, because that's gonna 779 00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:11,759 Speaker 1: be really important for us to like gets ship done 780 00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:15,520 Speaker 1: that brings everyone, that brings this true unity that is 781 00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:20,920 Speaker 1: only a possible through justice, and so um I was like, yeah, cool, maybe, 782 00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:24,759 Speaker 1: like will they pissed off some white supremacists. Well, I 783 00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:31,799 Speaker 1: think that Joe Biden wants to go down with Like 784 00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:34,399 Speaker 1: I think he's thinking of his ship like in terms 785 00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:37,879 Speaker 1: of legacy and stuff like that. So I think he's 786 00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:42,719 Speaker 1: gonna do whatever he thinks is going to be good politics, 787 00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:46,960 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So if that's where the 788 00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:50,239 Speaker 1: political winds are blowing, I think. I think that's where 789 00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:52,800 Speaker 1: he's going to be at and right now, the political winds, 790 00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:55,160 Speaker 1: I think are telling him to piss off some of 791 00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:57,879 Speaker 1: the right people, you know what I mean, A couple 792 00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:03,200 Speaker 1: of folks the left maybe like you know, doesn't quite 793 00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:06,560 Speaker 1: hate you for all your talk community without accountability. Before 794 00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:09,600 Speaker 1: we get into this music discussion, talk to them about 795 00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:14,040 Speaker 1: your thoughts about the fourteen dollar or fourteen or four 796 00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:21,560 Speaker 1: hundred and six hundred two stimulus. So let's talk about stimmy. Like, 797 00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:24,600 Speaker 1: I just don't like being made a liar, Okay. I 798 00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:28,680 Speaker 1: was out here knocking the nors all over Athens and 799 00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:32,279 Speaker 1: all over the state, literally telling people like, they'll give 800 00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:36,279 Speaker 1: you two thousand dollars, because that's what they said. They 801 00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:38,879 Speaker 1: will give you, not two dollars, two thousand dollars check, 802 00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:42,440 Speaker 1: We're not tweeted out a picture of a check with 803 00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:44,239 Speaker 1: two thousand dollars on it and was like, do you 804 00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:48,319 Speaker 1: want this vote for me? Which ethnically questionable, but you know, 805 00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:55,960 Speaker 1: in terms of like concrete, like legible material benefit for 806 00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:58,920 Speaker 1: people that are struggling right now, a might not like oh, 807 00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:01,000 Speaker 1: living wage and crew, So I'm not sure, like you know, 808 00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:03,799 Speaker 1: I already make fourteen forty five. I don't know what 809 00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:06,560 Speaker 1: that means for me or like oh, like you know, 810 00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:09,160 Speaker 1: in being private persons for an example, like no, that 811 00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:12,680 Speaker 1: sounds cool and don't really you know so and like 812 00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:15,640 Speaker 1: everybody could use sucking two k right now. And I 813 00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:18,200 Speaker 1: fucking told them when they asked me, you know, like, well, 814 00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:22,280 Speaker 1: the thing that it matters for me is COVID relief. 815 00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:24,239 Speaker 1: And these motherckers said they're gonna give you a two 816 00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:27,080 Speaker 1: thousand dollar check. Joe Biden came down, he told us 817 00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:29,719 Speaker 1: that we have us to two thousand check. We're not 818 00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:31,759 Speaker 1: gonna I was like, you get us in there immediately. 819 00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:34,920 Speaker 1: And that's the other thing is that they were like immediately, 820 00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:38,160 Speaker 1: it's like vote for us, the whear us and get 821 00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:41,839 Speaker 1: your two k immediately. That was the messaging. And now 822 00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:46,960 Speaker 1: we're talking about by like April. I just don't. I 823 00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:53,359 Speaker 1: just feel personally upset because like like a wind of people, 824 00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:56,320 Speaker 1: y'all make a lot of people. I believe, I believe 825 00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:57,840 Speaker 1: to you, and I'm sucking us. Oh you're talking to 826 00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:02,359 Speaker 1: people for you about it. Even the mention that they're 827 00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:06,239 Speaker 1: even thinking about doing that is stupid and they should 828 00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:09,000 Speaker 1: just go with the two thousand dollars. The thing, look, 829 00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:11,840 Speaker 1: look at all these all these all these executive actions 830 00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:15,479 Speaker 1: that are like pretty good. But you know what, it's 831 00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:18,080 Speaker 1: hard to explain when I'm out canvass in in the 832 00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:20,880 Speaker 1: hood where the fucking matter were back in the Paris 833 00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:24,600 Speaker 1: Climate Agreement. An't nobody give a ship if you've got 834 00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:28,240 Speaker 1: to fucking wear a mask on federal property. I couldn't 835 00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:31,120 Speaker 1: even point to you a piece of federal property over 836 00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:33,920 Speaker 1: and all the block. But one thing, one thing I 837 00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:36,640 Speaker 1: will say that people were going to remember that. People 838 00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:39,640 Speaker 1: are going to remember that they will. But one thing 839 00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:43,080 Speaker 1: I will say is that Joe Biden has been president 840 00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:50,160 Speaker 1: for seven days. He's been That's all I'm saying is 841 00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:52,880 Speaker 1: that he's been president for seven days, which is not 842 00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:56,200 Speaker 1: a long time. I don't know, I don't know. I 843 00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:59,120 Speaker 1: I just like I think political again, like I said, politically, 844 00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:01,239 Speaker 1: I don't even think the should be a discussion, Like 845 00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:04,200 Speaker 1: I don't think that anyone should even be questioning whether 846 00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:07,480 Speaker 1: these just need to be two thousand dollar checks. But 847 00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:14,080 Speaker 1: realistically it's just like I don't know, I don't know. 848 00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:17,799 Speaker 1: It doesn't, I don't know, it doesn't. It's not like 849 00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:21,439 Speaker 1: a deal breaker with me right now. I just think 850 00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:25,360 Speaker 1: I think it's just incredibly politically stupid. Yeah, it's super 851 00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:28,400 Speaker 1: politically stupid. I just don't think it's like ha ha, 852 00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:31,239 Speaker 1: we fleeced you and now we won't get you know 853 00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:34,160 Speaker 1: what I mean, at least that's not why. At least 854 00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:36,239 Speaker 1: that's not what I think. But I mean, I don't 855 00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:38,640 Speaker 1: regret anybody else for feeling that way. It's just so 856 00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:42,360 Speaker 1: funny because the discourse has always been like, oh, you know, 857 00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:45,279 Speaker 1: don't criticize Biden right now, he's got to make it 858 00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:48,280 Speaker 1: through the president, you know, the presidential election. Well, anybody 859 00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:50,759 Speaker 1: who's saying don't criticize Biden right now can need a dick. 860 00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:53,440 Speaker 1: But it's funny. It's because the people with the politicals 861 00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:55,400 Speaker 1: happy to realize they're shooting themselves in the foot for 862 00:50:55,960 --> 00:51:03,600 Speaker 1: because the one of the forthcoming steps along that process 863 00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:07,600 Speaker 1: or this on this hamster wheel, it's like, don't criticize Biden, 864 00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:11,200 Speaker 1: like we gotta win two and like keep the Senate now, 865 00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:14,000 Speaker 1: or like expand our margin in the House, or expect 866 00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:16,200 Speaker 1: you actually take the Senate by it you know, actually 867 00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:19,480 Speaker 1: you know number of seats. Yeah, it's like y'all are 868 00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:24,160 Speaker 1: the ones already sucking up. It's not mine criticizing you 869 00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:26,359 Speaker 1: that pushed you into this position where like people are 870 00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:29,080 Speaker 1: gonna hate you because you lined to them. Well, if 871 00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:31,719 Speaker 1: you if you're if for people out there who are progressive, 872 00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:36,640 Speaker 1: I feel like if you are hoping for Biden to 873 00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:40,480 Speaker 1: go more left, then you should continue to hope that 874 00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:46,080 Speaker 1: the Republicans divulge into this Q and non madness ship 875 00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:50,920 Speaker 1: that they're doing and just like become completely unreasonable to 876 00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:54,880 Speaker 1: work with and every facet all of them. And then 877 00:51:56,200 --> 00:52:00,160 Speaker 1: then I think, I think, you know, the Democrats might 878 00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:04,520 Speaker 1: straighten up a little bit. Are you trying drop about music? Hello, 879 00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:06,799 Speaker 1: we'll get at the music discussion right after the job, 880 00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:23,560 Speaker 1: all right, so this matter, we're gonna first listen to 881 00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:28,560 Speaker 1: a track that mc lemore dropped. I believe this was 882 00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:33,640 Speaker 1: on Biden's inauguration. Drop this, It made us made some 883 00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:36,040 Speaker 1: noise on the internet. A lot of people were upset. 884 00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:38,880 Speaker 1: I don't understand why. But let's take a little listen 885 00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:45,280 Speaker 1: Big Drive, Blue Lives Matter, talking about the right. Everybody 886 00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:49,040 Speaker 1: was you know what, like, Okay, I don't necessarily funk 887 00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:54,240 Speaker 1: with mac lemore style. Yeah, but I appreciate mac Lemore. 888 00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:56,239 Speaker 1: I really do. I'm not like saying that like as 889 00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:59,879 Speaker 1: a joker, facetiously, Like because of mac Lemore. I had 890 00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:03,080 Speaker 1: a little cousin asked me, who's grandmaster? Has you know 891 00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:05,400 Speaker 1: what I'm saying because back Lemore motherfucker is in their 892 00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:08,440 Speaker 1: video and shouts motherfucker's out, and I think his heart's 893 00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:11,960 Speaker 1: in the right place. This is actually I don't know 894 00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:14,000 Speaker 1: what the big deal is, you know, I just I 895 00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:16,040 Speaker 1: tend to not give people points for having their hearts 896 00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:18,080 Speaker 1: in the right place. Like I only funk with smart people, 897 00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:22,200 Speaker 1: and like he doesn't have a great track record of that, 898 00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:27,600 Speaker 1: but like I appreciate that anybody being like, I don't 899 00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:29,520 Speaker 1: care the funk if I lose you as a fan, 900 00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:34,799 Speaker 1: if you like Sailer in the face of you know, 901 00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:38,440 Speaker 1: this ship and calling up outside, you know, calling up 902 00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:41,960 Speaker 1: liberals are going back to brunch, calling out Brian in 903 00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:45,759 Speaker 1: his like lifted truck, the face of a gas station 904 00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:49,440 Speaker 1: attendant or whatever. Like, I just know nobody was talking 905 00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:53,400 Speaker 1: about the content of what mc lamore was saying, and 906 00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:56,840 Speaker 1: everybody was saying that it was cringe, and it was cringe, 907 00:53:57,320 --> 00:53:58,680 Speaker 1: and it was cringe, and that was the word I 908 00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:01,360 Speaker 1: kept here in associated with this track more than anything. 909 00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:04,840 Speaker 1: Oh it's cringe. Oh it's cringe. Now, I've been listening 910 00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:09,320 Speaker 1: to rap music for a long, long, long long time. 911 00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:12,520 Speaker 1: If this Maclamore ship was the ship that you heard 912 00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:17,560 Speaker 1: this week the world him that made you cringe, I 913 00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:21,400 Speaker 1: dare say you're not listening to pop because some of 914 00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:23,960 Speaker 1: these motherfucker's will listen to a motherfucker freestyle and go. 915 00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:29,440 Speaker 1: But I I kept perceive it as cringe and that 916 00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:32,759 Speaker 1: it's preachy, and like some people don't listen to music 917 00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:37,759 Speaker 1: to like hear a rappers opinion about shit. I don't 918 00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:41,440 Speaker 1: understand that. I don't understand that. I don't understand that. 919 00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:44,680 Speaker 1: I don't understand. Yeah, I mean again, I can listen 920 00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:47,560 Speaker 1: to it and I can be like, oh, yeah, I 921 00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:50,279 Speaker 1: don't funk with that. Why oh he wasn't rhyming enough 922 00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:52,480 Speaker 1: and like I don't like the way he was flowing 923 00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:54,759 Speaker 1: to the beat or no, that style was too slow. 924 00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:56,879 Speaker 1: I thought he should have come faster over that beat, 925 00:54:56,920 --> 00:55:00,000 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Or yo, that one line there, 926 00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:01,879 Speaker 1: it was like, no, I don't funk with that line. 927 00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:03,919 Speaker 1: That line didn't make no sense of something like that. 928 00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:08,400 Speaker 1: But I don't know if like if a rapper wraps 929 00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:12,360 Speaker 1: in in, your response is like, oh, that's cringe. I 930 00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:14,440 Speaker 1: don't care what the rapper was rapping about, what the 931 00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:17,000 Speaker 1: rapper was saying. As a hip hop head, I'm probably 932 00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:19,279 Speaker 1: not listening to a word that. You know. The person 933 00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:22,560 Speaker 1: who's given that opinion is like, Okay, a cringe, that's 934 00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:25,560 Speaker 1: your that's your servation of this beautiful art form that 935 00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:28,440 Speaker 1: we love. It's just cringe. That's all you got to say. 936 00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:31,879 Speaker 1: Get out of here with that ship, like you know, 937 00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:35,920 Speaker 1: for yourself, I was like, well, I mean aesthetically, I 938 00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:38,600 Speaker 1: don't think I didn't expect it to be when I 939 00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:41,200 Speaker 1: thought when I when I came into it, assuming it 940 00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:42,839 Speaker 1: was going to be current. I thought it was because 941 00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:46,319 Speaker 1: it's gonna be bad rapping. Yeah, me too to Really, 942 00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:48,600 Speaker 1: I mean, it wasn't like example, it wasn't good rapping 943 00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:53,200 Speaker 1: regular bars. It was matter more regular bars, you know 944 00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:56,120 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Yeah, there's so many crash bars out 945 00:55:56,120 --> 00:56:00,520 Speaker 1: there that like, when you get a and bars, it 946 00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:04,840 Speaker 1: could feel like a full course. Jess Christ, I'm sweating 947 00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:08,200 Speaker 1: when we lay down. Okay. Up next, we got Kodak 948 00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:13,440 Speaker 1: Black with his track Last Day, in which I guess 949 00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:17,080 Speaker 1: was recorded after his parted I live him crazy, but 950 00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:20,280 Speaker 1: you're fame, and I'd try to spend my East Damn 951 00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:25,359 Speaker 1: Miami Okay, Kodak colection sing ever no never, no never. 952 00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:28,080 Speaker 1: Just want to get that all right? Cut that cut that, 953 00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:34,120 Speaker 1: like I mean because I know like or at least 954 00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:36,360 Speaker 1: I seem to recall that, like you don't like sing 955 00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:39,880 Speaker 1: rappers period, But that's not why I don't like that. 956 00:56:43,719 --> 00:56:46,640 Speaker 1: Pull it off and pack obviously, like that's his whole name, 957 00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:51,440 Speaker 1: Like there's been there, there's precedent set, but it can 958 00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:54,840 Speaker 1: be done. Look. Look, unfortunately, I would almost rather the 959 00:56:55,040 --> 00:56:58,680 Speaker 1: entire subgenre of sing rapping be abolished just so I 960 00:56:58,719 --> 00:57:03,120 Speaker 1: would not have to have her that yo. I I'm 961 00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:05,640 Speaker 1: not a fan of sing rap, but it is what 962 00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:07,799 Speaker 1: it is. I can appreciate it when it's done. Well, 963 00:57:08,239 --> 00:57:10,840 Speaker 1: that was just bad, Joe, And like I want to 964 00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:13,960 Speaker 1: talk about it because like I think that he's talking 965 00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:17,320 Speaker 1: about wanting to see a lover out of jail about 966 00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:19,200 Speaker 1: like you didn't even call and check on me, which 967 00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:21,520 Speaker 1: like is a thing. You know, he's in president ship, 968 00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:28,000 Speaker 1: but that execution, like you know, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Uh, 969 00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:32,040 Speaker 1: if you want to say that I'm just not hip 970 00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:36,800 Speaker 1: and I just like I don't get it, then fine. 971 00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:40,680 Speaker 1: But that ship was whack, yo, Like, I'm sorry that 972 00:57:40,680 --> 00:57:43,080 Speaker 1: that was I was not working with that. Let's let's 973 00:57:43,080 --> 00:57:47,120 Speaker 1: see holds up? But am I tripping about that song? Though? 974 00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:56,760 Speaker 1: Like that was? That was whack? Right? The last day 975 00:57:56,520 --> 00:58:01,720 Speaker 1: was bush. We're sorry, We're sorry, We're sorry we did that. 976 00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:04,720 Speaker 1: We gotta see what people do with they freedom when 977 00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:07,200 Speaker 1: they get out, like exactly, let's let's hear what little 978 00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:09,800 Speaker 1: Wayne has to say. Yeah, I'm a little bit higher 979 00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:14,240 Speaker 1: hopes for this kid. Ain't got time. I guess the 980 00:58:14,240 --> 00:58:19,760 Speaker 1: down turn Flieswham. I can't live when I think too much? 981 00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:22,200 Speaker 1: Did the partner just make niggas not want to wrap? 982 00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:27,840 Speaker 1: I mean the something happened to him on the inside. Okay, 983 00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:29,960 Speaker 1: we gotta we need to we need to puke the 984 00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:34,880 Speaker 1: whole wrap game on hold. Figure out what's going on 985 00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:38,320 Speaker 1: with these niggas, because like Trump got these niggas hitting 986 00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:42,200 Speaker 1: high nose. I'm really scared for them. What happened yo? 987 00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:49,640 Speaker 1: That was hot garbage. Yeah, I'm really worried. Okay, um, 988 00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:51,320 Speaker 1: let me see, how do I how do I how 989 00:58:51,360 --> 00:58:53,840 Speaker 1: do I put that into words. That was that was bad. 990 00:58:54,320 --> 00:58:57,320 Speaker 1: It's bad. Um, I don't know, I don't even know 991 00:58:57,360 --> 00:58:59,560 Speaker 1: what to say. It's like it's hard to even get 992 00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:04,240 Speaker 1: into the ship. It's I believe it was Forest Whitaker 993 00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:10,200 Speaker 1: who once said this sucks the sweat of a dead 994 00:59:10,280 --> 00:59:13,320 Speaker 1: man's balls. I don't even know what the funk that 995 00:59:13,360 --> 00:59:17,000 Speaker 1: ship means, but it sounds appropriate for this ship. I mean, 996 00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:19,240 Speaker 1: I'm looking at the lyrics right now for like some 997 00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:22,080 Speaker 1: of the clever word play, like I've always loved his 998 00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:31,280 Speaker 1: ability with metaphor his like uh punch lines. The private 999 00:59:31,360 --> 00:59:37,400 Speaker 1: plane went and got one that's more private. Good job? Um, alright, 1000 00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:39,919 Speaker 1: produced world wrote it on two cups, poor little juice 1001 00:59:39,960 --> 00:59:45,040 Speaker 1: for him? Sup, gave me goose bumps. Wait wait, wait 1002 00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:48,360 Speaker 1: when he says poor little juice for him? Is he 1003 00:59:48,440 --> 00:59:54,040 Speaker 1: talking about porn? More lean? I you know, I just 1004 00:59:54,920 --> 01:00:01,760 Speaker 1: I mean, isn't that inappropriate? Up? Bron the man, I 1005 01:00:01,840 --> 01:00:06,640 Speaker 1: keep going, keep going? Anything else? That really? You mentioned 1006 01:00:06,640 --> 01:00:09,080 Speaker 1: Trump at all? No? I mean he talks about like, 1007 01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:13,480 Speaker 1: you know, the FBI getting arrested by the FBI, um, 1008 01:00:13,520 --> 01:00:18,760 Speaker 1: trying to hide from getting high. That's it. Okay. The 1009 01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:21,080 Speaker 1: Little Wayne song was better than the Kodak song, but 1010 01:00:21,240 --> 01:00:25,600 Speaker 1: they were both not dope. In my opinion, they were 1011 01:00:25,640 --> 01:00:28,640 Speaker 1: both not dope. Yeah I was. I'm kind of disappointed. 1012 01:00:28,680 --> 01:00:32,840 Speaker 1: You know what. The last rapper, the last rapper who 1013 01:00:33,160 --> 01:00:36,040 Speaker 1: put out like a joint right after they got out 1014 01:00:36,040 --> 01:00:39,400 Speaker 1: of jail that I really dug, was Gucci Man with 1015 01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:46,040 Speaker 1: the track First Day Out. But Nigga, I can't wait. 1016 01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:51,600 Speaker 1: I only chance to kill my enemies and beat my case. Yo, 1017 01:00:51,760 --> 01:00:55,440 Speaker 1: slow on that. That just slaves me exactly. I've been 1018 01:00:55,480 --> 01:00:58,160 Speaker 1: listening that year for the last like four years. Yeah, 1019 01:00:58,360 --> 01:01:00,520 Speaker 1: he's like, Yo, I just got the jail. I don't 1020 01:01:00,560 --> 01:01:03,720 Speaker 1: know how to just like take my time because that's sober. 1021 01:01:03,760 --> 01:01:06,240 Speaker 1: Get in the jail cell of a day, an hour 1022 01:01:06,320 --> 01:01:10,439 Speaker 1: out in the yard, that's ship, that's sober. I don't 1023 01:01:10,480 --> 01:01:13,560 Speaker 1: do lean no more, Gucci like when he was fresh 1024 01:01:13,560 --> 01:01:16,200 Speaker 1: out on probation, Like so, I just gotta like sit 1025 01:01:16,240 --> 01:01:19,360 Speaker 1: there with the pen and really get busy with it. 1026 01:01:19,640 --> 01:01:22,880 Speaker 1: And I mean, after just listening to all three of 1027 01:01:22,880 --> 01:01:25,160 Speaker 1: those back to back, I mean even one of the 1028 01:01:25,240 --> 01:01:28,160 Speaker 1: joints has the same name as his song, and Gucci 1029 01:01:28,200 --> 01:01:32,360 Speaker 1: slayd both of those tracks. Easy, easy to corrections. This 1030 01:01:32,440 --> 01:01:35,080 Speaker 1: is called First Day out. It's called First Day Out 1031 01:01:35,320 --> 01:01:38,080 Speaker 1: Kodak songs Last Day and okay, last Day and first 1032 01:01:38,120 --> 01:01:42,640 Speaker 1: Day Out. But um yeah, now he killed put that 1033 01:01:42,720 --> 01:01:46,400 Speaker 1: backin of ship. Um yeah. I mean when you don't 1034 01:01:46,600 --> 01:01:49,080 Speaker 1: take favorites from the fascist and you just do your time, 1035 01:01:49,440 --> 01:01:52,960 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Hey, I'm a better rapper. 1036 01:01:54,160 --> 01:01:59,520 Speaker 1: We got one more new joint. This is by um 1037 01:01:59,640 --> 01:02:03,760 Speaker 1: M C and I guess fellow podcaster too Toler Quality 1038 01:02:03,840 --> 01:02:08,960 Speaker 1: featuring Afro and Diamond D Far Out Bar Out. Let's 1039 01:02:09,040 --> 01:02:12,120 Speaker 1: check this out like I'm Black itself, wraps Ubador Dell 1040 01:02:12,320 --> 01:02:18,840 Speaker 1: and a nice boom bab track. I remember hearing this 1041 01:02:19,160 --> 01:02:22,120 Speaker 1: interview with rock him once and he was breaking down 1042 01:02:22,920 --> 01:02:25,360 Speaker 1: how his You know, he took a lot of his 1043 01:02:25,400 --> 01:02:29,800 Speaker 1: cues from jazz, so he always envisions his rhyming like 1044 01:02:29,840 --> 01:02:32,440 Speaker 1: a sacks playing on the track, like the way that 1045 01:02:32,520 --> 01:02:34,760 Speaker 1: you know. And he's a trained saxophone player too, so 1046 01:02:34,800 --> 01:02:37,480 Speaker 1: like he always imagines his raps being like a saxophone 1047 01:02:37,480 --> 01:02:41,800 Speaker 1: playing on the track. And that Toler song, This far 1048 01:02:41,840 --> 01:02:43,880 Speaker 1: Out Bar Out joint gives me that sort of vibe 1049 01:02:43,880 --> 01:02:46,560 Speaker 1: where it's like, like you said, it's not necessarily that 1050 01:02:46,600 --> 01:02:52,800 Speaker 1: anyone is saying much. But it's an exercise in like flow. 1051 01:02:53,200 --> 01:02:56,360 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. It's like, that's beautiful exercise, 1052 01:02:56,480 --> 01:02:59,360 Speaker 1: a masterful exercise. It's exactly way to say that. And 1053 01:02:59,440 --> 01:03:01,960 Speaker 1: yeah and a little bit lit lyric videos cute too. 1054 01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:04,160 Speaker 1: So about chut that out on YouTube? Yeah? Yeah, check 1055 01:03:04,200 --> 01:03:08,600 Speaker 1: that shut out? Yeah? Um, I believe that that is 1056 01:03:08,680 --> 01:03:12,200 Speaker 1: it for us today. You know, hit us up on Instagram. 1057 01:03:12,440 --> 01:03:15,520 Speaker 1: I heart reparations, Um, you hit me up Lingua Franca 1058 01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:23,280 Speaker 1: or what's yours? I'm at dope underscore knife, hit us 1059 01:03:23,360 --> 01:03:24,960 Speaker 1: up if you got what you want to hear about 1060 01:03:25,120 --> 01:03:27,880 Speaker 1: on the policy on the side of music, you know, 1061 01:03:28,880 --> 01:03:31,960 Speaker 1: this is your shot to oh something that somebody gave 1062 01:03:32,040 --> 01:03:35,160 Speaker 1: me a good idea for that we're going to start 1063 01:03:35,200 --> 01:03:38,800 Speaker 1: doing in this episode. Is since we have yet to 1064 01:03:38,840 --> 01:03:42,080 Speaker 1: figure out how to link a playlist of some sort 1065 01:03:42,320 --> 01:03:44,600 Speaker 1: along with the podcast, I'm sure there's an easy way 1066 01:03:44,600 --> 01:03:47,080 Speaker 1: to do it. We're just dumb, and we're going to 1067 01:03:47,120 --> 01:03:50,280 Speaker 1: start writing the songs that we talk about within the 1068 01:03:50,320 --> 01:03:53,920 Speaker 1: episode description. So so for you guys who do want 1069 01:03:53,960 --> 01:03:55,560 Speaker 1: to go check with that, because somebod y'all be hitting 1070 01:03:55,560 --> 01:03:57,760 Speaker 1: me up to you know, ask. First of all, y'all, 1071 01:03:57,800 --> 01:04:00,080 Speaker 1: hit me out to say, hey, can you tell me 1072 01:04:00,320 --> 01:04:03,120 Speaker 1: the songs that you guys are talking about? I'm like, yo, 1073 01:04:04,520 --> 01:04:09,280 Speaker 1: can't you listen to this ship? But but yeah, I 1074 01:04:09,280 --> 01:04:12,760 Speaker 1: know we're gonna start including the songs in the episode descriptions, 1075 01:04:12,760 --> 01:04:14,560 Speaker 1: so if you want to go find those, you can 1076 01:04:14,760 --> 01:04:16,479 Speaker 1: look for those. And in the future, like I said, 1077 01:04:16,520 --> 01:04:19,760 Speaker 1: one day, we'll have like an official waiting on a 1078 01:04:19,840 --> 01:04:24,840 Speaker 1: referations playlist that updates every fucking week with new songs 1079 01:04:24,960 --> 01:04:27,240 Speaker 1: and then all that cert of jazz. All right, I 1080 01:04:27,320 --> 01:04:35,960 Speaker 1: feel like grabbing Joel. It's gonna beat yo. Yo. I'm 1081 01:04:36,120 --> 01:04:37,840 Speaker 1: usually be alone of it. Right now, I got a 1082 01:04:37,920 --> 01:04:40,840 Speaker 1: larger group looking at Biden can get a pardon to 1083 01:04:41,120 --> 01:04:42,800 Speaker 1: give one to my mother and a couple from my 1084 01:04:42,840 --> 01:04:45,280 Speaker 1: squaddle due. It'll come in handy because I was thinking 1085 01:04:45,280 --> 01:04:47,880 Speaker 1: of robbing you. It's just a joke. I ain't doing crime. 1086 01:04:48,000 --> 01:04:49,840 Speaker 1: I just use a rom I'm just short and pretty. 1087 01:04:49,880 --> 01:04:51,960 Speaker 1: I ain't doing time. But if Trump offered me a 1088 01:04:52,000 --> 01:04:55,720 Speaker 1: pardon with our true decline, I don't know, you decide 1089 01:04:56,280 --> 01:04:58,760 Speaker 1: who am I. It's the knife, the dopest one got 1090 01:04:58,760 --> 01:05:01,120 Speaker 1: the smoking luck. I spit it slick with the golden tongue. 1091 01:05:01,320 --> 01:05:03,240 Speaker 1: I just tell you how it is. Say I'm hating. 1092 01:05:03,280 --> 01:05:05,880 Speaker 1: For Give me reparations now so you can wait for 1093 01:05:07,080 --> 01:05:12,640 Speaker 1: Waiting on Reparations. Dope Dope, Dope Dope. I'm Frank and 1094 01:05:12,640 --> 01:05:15,840 Speaker 1: I'm Dope Knife. We are waiting on reparations. See you 1095 01:05:15,840 --> 01:05:20,320 Speaker 1: next week. 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