1 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 1: Hey there, folks. 2 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 2: It is Tuesday, February tenth, and we are hopping on 3 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 2: tonight because we have just gotten what is, without a doubt, 4 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 2: the biggest development so far in the case of missing 5 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 2: Nancy Guthrie. And with that, welcome to this episode of 6 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 2: Amy and TJ. Robes are doing this here on Tuesday evening. 7 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 2: I would not be surprised if we get up on 8 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 2: Wednesday morning and have even more and possibly a suspect 9 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 2: in this case. 10 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:41,200 Speaker 1: Was this is huge. 11 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 3: Yes, to actually see footage of someone it looks to 12 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:47,839 Speaker 3: be a man, that is at least how police have 13 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 3: described the person seen in surveillance video that they have 14 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 3: been able to recover from the door cam of Nancy Guthrie. 15 00:00:56,200 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 3: A man in a ski mask with gloves with the weapon, 16 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 3: trying to mask the camera with brush and then eventually 17 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 3: smashing the camera with his fist. It is so eerie, 18 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 3: it is so scary in all of the theories of 19 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 3: what could have happened, what may have happened, Who is responsible? 20 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 3: You see clearly there was someone on Nancy Guthrie's front 21 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 3: porch intending to do harm. 22 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 1: So this is what we got today from the FBI. 23 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 2: Words started to leak out throughout the day that maybe 24 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:30,760 Speaker 2: something was coming, that maybe video is coming. Images were 25 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 2: coming us. So Raylan's video was coming. But this is 26 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 2: without a doubt. I don't exactly know why roams they 27 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 2: continue to use the term potential suspect. But you told 28 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 2: us that someone who was abducted from a home, and 29 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 2: now you're showing us somebody who was at that home 30 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:45,039 Speaker 2: with a ski mask in the middle of the night. 31 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:49,559 Speaker 2: This has got to be obviously your suspect. So Cash 32 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 2: Mattel put out a statement earlier today. We'll share it 33 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 2: with you now. But his statement essentially saying that this 34 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 2: is video that the FBI that authorities are only getting 35 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 2: right now, and that they have been working with the 36 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 2: past week and a half to try to get it. 37 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 2: But it took some police work, some detective work, some 38 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 2: forensics work. Roven it seemed like it took some time. 39 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:10,079 Speaker 2: But they said they just got this and they're put 40 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 2: it out now. 41 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 4: That's right. 42 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 3: So he says, new images in the search for Nancy Guthrie. 43 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 3: This is from FBI Director Cash Pattel. Over the last 44 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:20,679 Speaker 3: eight days, the FBI and Pima County Sheriff's Department have 45 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 3: been working closely with our private sector partners to continue 46 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 3: to recover any images or video footage from Nancy Guthrie's 47 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 3: home that may have been lost, corrupted, or inaccessible due 48 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 3: to a variety of factors, including the removal of recording devices. 49 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 3: The video was recovered from was residual data located in 50 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 3: back end systems. Working with our partners, as of this morning, 51 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 3: law enforcement has uncovered these previously inaccessible new images showing 52 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 3: an armed individual appearing to have tampered with the camera 53 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 3: at Nancy Guthrie's front door or the mourning of her disappearance. 54 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:05,360 Speaker 4: This is at one forty seven am in the morning. 55 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 3: We should point out these images in this video and 56 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 3: it is out of a horror movie. 57 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 1: Baby so too. 58 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:15,920 Speaker 2: I guess a decent number of you listening have probably 59 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 2: seen this video already, but it's yes, many of you 60 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 2: have these. You have door cameras, you have security cameras 61 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 2: in the front, and it picks up movement and it's 62 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 2: a grainy, black and white image that you're used to seeing. 63 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 2: It is that, But to think that now we're seeing 64 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 2: an image of somebody on the front porch of this 65 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 2: eighty four year old woman's house in a ski mask, 66 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 2: knowing that she was inside a sleep and had been 67 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 2: there for some time. This is terrifying. Now what we 68 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 2: see in the video robes Obviously you can't see the 69 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 2: person's face, but they are wearing a ski mask. That 70 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 2: suggests what robes there is planning. They know a camera 71 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 2: is there and they are trying to hide. 72 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 3: Correct, And people have pointed out the ski mask obviously, 73 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 3: the gloves and the backpack. This is someone who has prepared. 74 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 3: This is someone who has premeditated whatever they're about to 75 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 3: do and have what they need with them to carry 76 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 3: it out, including a weapon. I haven't seen them describe. 77 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 3: You can look at it right here that he is armed. 78 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 3: Is that what you would consider a gun? And a holster? 79 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 4: Is it a knife? 80 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 2: Now I can say, who doesn't the authority say, I've 81 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 2: seen it described as wearing a holster? But I did 82 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 2: see was it Patel? They described him as being armed. 83 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 4: That's a gun. That's a gun. I can see it 84 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:30,720 Speaker 4: right now. 85 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 3: Yes, in the video you can see that that is 86 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 3: absolutely a gun very clearly. 87 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 4: Look babe, right here in the movie see him walk up. 88 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:40,160 Speaker 4: Watch that was actually back a bit. 89 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 2: So they did release images there are at least there 90 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:46,280 Speaker 2: are several images, but there are several videos as well 91 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 2: that they do release. And yeah, at some points he's 92 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 2: wearing these gloves and he is trying to cover that 93 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 2: camera and he does do so successfully with his hand. 94 00:04:55,320 --> 00:05:02,360 Speaker 2: Again suggests someone who is familiar, possibly with that front porch. Now, 95 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 2: why do you release this robes? We say this all 96 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 2: the time, and you said it to me, baby, if 97 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:10,159 Speaker 2: that was you in the front when the scheme asked, 98 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:11,920 Speaker 2: I would know that was you, I. 99 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:14,839 Speaker 3: Said, I did say this. Look at first, you see 100 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 3: this and you think this is ridiculous. How could anybody 101 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 3: know who this person is? They're completely covered from head 102 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 3: to toe. And then you start to think about it. 103 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 3: If that were someone I knew, a friend, a husband, 104 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 3: a brother, a neighbor. You notice how people are dressed, 105 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 3: You notice people's build you notice how they walk, and 106 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:34,479 Speaker 3: in the video portion that they released, you can just 107 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 3: see movements and if that's someone who you intimately know, 108 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 3: you'll recognize them. And that is the hope right now. 109 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 3: And two, this is very important among what has been released. 110 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:52,279 Speaker 3: NBC News is reporting that the Guthrie family looked at 111 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:55,839 Speaker 3: this video, looked at these images and said, based on 112 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 3: what we just described, we don't recognize this person. And 113 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:03,280 Speaker 3: after that was established, and police also established that they 114 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:07,480 Speaker 3: did not recognize that figure in this video from anyone 115 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 3: they've interviewed or anyone they've talked to, the decision was 116 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:14,480 Speaker 3: made collectively after retrieving this video to put it out 117 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 3: to the public, to hope that someone else might say, 118 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:19,920 Speaker 3: oh my god, I know who that is. 119 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 1: And someone will. 120 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 2: This is how we've seen this countless times in these cases. 121 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 2: Someone will recognize something from that video. Maybe it's even 122 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 2: what he's wearing. Maybe it's the backpack itself, and like 123 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:34,799 Speaker 2: you said, just the girth, the bill, the gate, something 124 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 2: about this video. But this is the biggest break in 125 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 2: this case. It is hard to believe Robes that we 126 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 2: are here this many days out and they are this clueless, 127 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 2: if you will, And again that's not an insult to them, 128 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 2: but to think this far out, with this many resources 129 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 2: eyes attention on this case, that they're still saying, please help, 130 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 2: we're nowhere. 131 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 3: There's a lot of questions to your point about how 132 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:06,159 Speaker 3: many days it's been that we're just now given the urgency, 133 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 3: given all the focus and the resources on this case, 134 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 3: we're just now nine ten days into her disappearance, finally 135 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 3: finally seeing. 136 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 4: This door cam footage. 137 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 3: Now we understand that for whatever reason, the Guthrie family 138 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 3: or Nancy Guthrie herself, decided not to pay for a subscription, Okay, 139 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 3: but still the fact that it took this long to 140 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 3: get the cooperation, the subpoena, whatever legal or it hoops 141 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 3: they had to jump through. 142 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 4: If this video had been out, ah, five. 143 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 3: Days ago, six days ago, seven days ago, what could 144 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 3: it have meant to the search for Nancy Guthrie. That's 145 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 3: frustrating to know this video existed and it's only now 146 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 3: been accessed to release it. Is kind of crazy, given 147 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 3: the fact that it's twenty twenty six. 148 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 1: Now. 149 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:57,559 Speaker 2: I won't even begin to try to question the tech 150 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 2: of it all. I have no idea where this thing was, 151 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 2: how it was hidden, They had to back ended and 152 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 2: all that. I am not gonna even try to question 153 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 2: how long that process might have taken. 154 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 1: But it is again rogue. 155 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 2: It's still kind of you scratch your head to some 156 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 2: degree that we are this far out and we are 157 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 2: just now, yeah, frankly, getting concrete confirmation that the woman 158 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 2: has been abducted. 159 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 3: You make such a good point because we keep calling 160 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 3: this a potential abduction, we find a way to make 161 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 3: sure we couch it. Look, we've had police from the 162 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 3: beginning say that they believe Nancy Guthrie was taken against 163 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 3: her will, that the scene left behind at Nancy Guthrie's 164 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 3: home suggested a grave concern. So we've been given indication, 165 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:56,080 Speaker 3: yet they've never directly confirmed it. 166 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 4: And now we see this video and. 167 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 3: It's for a lot of us who are trying to 168 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 3: together what could have happened, what might have happened, what's 169 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 3: the most likely scenario. This is a kind of a 170 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 3: holy shit moment. Damn, there is a masked man on 171 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:13,680 Speaker 3: her front door at our front porch at one forty 172 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:14,319 Speaker 3: seven am. 173 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 4: And look, you've asked about the timeline. 174 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:19,839 Speaker 3: This is curious that video that has been released, the 175 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:22,680 Speaker 3: images that we've seen were all captured at one forty 176 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 3: seven am. We all know, and we've been looking at 177 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 3: the timeline on this. Her her pacemaker went off about 178 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 3: fifteen minutes later. Is that what they're saying? No, sorry, 179 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 3: excuse me, at two thirty, but fifteen minutes after this 180 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 3: door cam footage was taken, excuse me, we believe her 181 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 3: pacemaker went off, and then shortly after that there was 182 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 3: an image a motion detected on a camera that was 183 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 3: registered as human. 184 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:50,960 Speaker 4: But there is no image that. 185 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 3: We can see or that we know of after her 186 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 3: pacemaker went off on the property of Nancy Guthrie, and 187 00:09:58,360 --> 00:09:59,840 Speaker 3: that is deeply concerning. 188 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 2: Well, all of this is obviously deeply concerning at this point. 189 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 2: But we've gone back and forth. There are plenty of 190 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 2: experts out there. Everybody has hopped on to any podcast, 191 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 2: any interview, any television interview, opportunity to give their opinion 192 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 2: about this case. And there are plenty out there who 193 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:20,199 Speaker 2: have flat out said they do not believe this was 194 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 2: a kidnapping, that they do not believe it's an authensive 195 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:26,559 Speaker 2: ransom situation, that they do not believe it was an abduction. 196 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:32,199 Speaker 2: So here we are confirmed there is an abductor. There 197 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 2: is nothing else now to talk about, So move to 198 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:40,680 Speaker 2: the next step ropes in this huge mystery. Mystery one 199 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 2: has been solved. Stay here, we'll tell you what's next 200 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:57,719 Speaker 2: and how we can solve mystery number two. And we 201 00:10:57,840 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 2: continue here on Amy and TJ with the update on 202 00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 2: the Nancy Guthrie investigation. 203 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:05,080 Speaker 1: Robe. So much in this so much has been solved. 204 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 2: Today you can move forward, at least at least in 205 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:09,840 Speaker 2: the way the public is looking at this, and maybe 206 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 2: even the way the authorities are looking at it. It 207 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:16,200 Speaker 2: is confirmed there was someone there at Nancy Guthrie's house 208 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:18,720 Speaker 2: that should not have been there at two in the morning, 209 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 2: messing with the cameras. That is your abductor, so Robes. 210 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 2: Question one has been answered. Mystery number one solved. It 211 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 2: is definitive someone was there and took her. How do 212 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 2: you get now the answer to question two? If someone 213 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 2: took her, the question is why did you go there 214 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 2: to do harm and kill her? Or did you go 215 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:43,679 Speaker 2: there to take her for a ransom? How can there 216 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 2: be a third option? 217 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 1: Right? How do you answer the next question? 218 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 2: Because if you wanted to kill this woman, you could 219 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 2: have gone in she was sleeping at two in the morning. 220 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 3: Yes, I would think she was asleep if her garage 221 00:11:56,360 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 3: door shut at nine fifty that evening, and this masked 222 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 3: man isn't seen until one forty seven, Yes, you would 223 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 3: think that an eighty four year old woman would be 224 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:08,960 Speaker 3: sound asleep in her bed. 225 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 2: Sweet lady in there sound asleep. So if someone wants 226 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 2: to go in there and kill Nancy Guthrie. You go 227 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 2: in there and you have the easiest opportunity to kill 228 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 2: her and walk out, Why would you do anything else 229 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 2: unless you had another motive, meaning kidnapping and ransom? 230 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 1: Is this really robes? Has this been just confirmed now? 231 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 1: Is yes? This is a ransom? 232 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:36,839 Speaker 3: Or is it an elaborate setup to a boondoggle to 233 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:42,319 Speaker 3: thwart authority's efforts into trying to track down a kidnapper 234 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 3: and a still alive Nancy Guthrie all the while? 235 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 1: How can happen? How can the video do that? 236 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:52,560 Speaker 3: No, just saying that that's how the killer, if she 237 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:57,080 Speaker 3: is dead, masked man entered the home and then killed 238 00:12:57,120 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 3: her and took her body and just decided to dispose 239 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:01,840 Speaker 3: of it and create this huge mystery so that there 240 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 3: would be so much focus on where she could be 241 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 3: still alive instead of where her body could be recovered. 242 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. Then what's the suggest then? Why kill her? Then? 243 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:12,720 Speaker 2: The suggestion there that somebody went in and had the 244 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 2: motive of wanting to kill eighty four that's a stretch, 245 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:22,079 Speaker 2: big stres Who wants to kill the eighty four year 246 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:24,080 Speaker 2: old lady? And if you do, why kill her and 247 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 2: take her body? And then have to dispose of it somewhere. 248 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 4: I don't know any of the above. Anything could have happened. 249 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 3: People can panic, but this seemed to be Whatever happened, 250 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 3: whether she's alive, held for ransom, whether she was killed, 251 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:42,079 Speaker 3: there was somebody who entered her home with the intent 252 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 3: to do harm, period, that has been established, but we 253 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:49,200 Speaker 3: don't know who, and we don't know why, and we 254 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:53,439 Speaker 3: don't know where she is. And so today, after that 255 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 3: video was released, a lot of focus has been on 256 00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 3: what investigators are doing now, and they are going They 257 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:03,960 Speaker 3: were seen going door to door after this video was 258 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 3: released in the neighborhood of Annie Guthrie. Now, look, that 259 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 3: is the last place that Nancy Guthrie was known to 260 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:14,839 Speaker 3: be alive. An uber driver dropped her off at her 261 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 3: daughter's house to have dinner and play some card games, reportedly, 262 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 3: and then we do know that she was brought back, 263 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 3: or at least the car was brought back and a 264 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 3: garage door was opened, and she was presumably brought back 265 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 3: to her home. However, there is an intense search around 266 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 3: the area right now of Annie Guthrie's home, and a 267 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 3: lot of folks have been pointing to that after this 268 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 3: video they. 269 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 4: Are looking at. 270 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 3: When you start looking at land, you start looking at 271 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 3: the property around homes. It is concerning there was a 272 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 3: different focus at this point. Now when you start to 273 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 3: look at brush at rugged terrain, you're looking for any 274 00:14:56,720 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 3: leads you could possibly find. 275 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 4: Where could she be? Where could Nancy Guthrie bee? 276 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 2: So, without a doubt, this is the biggest development in 277 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 2: this case. This is the biggest clue in this case. 278 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 2: And this is certainly the I guess, biggest development that 279 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 2: authorities have wished to share with the public, and this 280 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 2: could be the one that changes this case, without a doubt, 281 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 2: and also ropes. They have already suggested that they are 282 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 2: getting clues, getting tips, and being overwhelmed, even to a 283 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:30,240 Speaker 2: certain degree with how much people have reacted since they've 284 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 2: put out these images. 285 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's true. 286 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 3: So they actually had to put out a statement to 287 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 3: folks who are in the Tucson area to please not 288 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 3: call nine to one one, that they have been overwhelmed 289 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 3: and that is not the appropriate way to call in 290 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 3: a tip of any kind if you are in the 291 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 3: Tucson area. They have a crimestopper's number set up for 292 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 3: the FBI as well, but they just they were to 293 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 3: the point where they had to put out a statement 294 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 3: urging folks in the Tucson area to not call nine 295 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 3: one one. 296 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 4: That is how many tips have come in. 297 00:15:57,760 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 3: Hundreds of tips they have said, have come in since 298 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 3: this video has been released, and the hope is that 299 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 3: just one of them will lead them to their person 300 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 3: of interest. 301 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 1: So just went to hop on and give it the 302 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 1: update tonight. 303 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 2: Wouldn't be surprised if there's a brand new update by 304 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 2: the time we get up and we all get going 305 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 2: in the morning. But the latest, the biggest development so 306 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 2: far in the case of the missing eighty four year 307 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 2: old mother of Today's show host Savannah Guthrie, Nancy Guthrie, 308 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 2: they have released now images of someone who is at 309 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 2: that home on that front porch in a ski mask, 310 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 2: trying to get into the home, trying to cover upt 311 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 2: the camera. 312 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 1: They have released those images. 313 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 2: Certainly people are calling in and this is going to 314 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 2: be the run rogues. I would not be surprised at 315 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 2: all if we get up in the morning and something 316 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 2: has changed in this case. So folks, you can look 317 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 2: for our updates of course always top right corner of 318 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 2: vi Apple podcast app where you see our show page 319 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 2: that button says follow. Click that and you can get 320 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 2: our updates coming to you, and there are a plenty 321 00:16:56,880 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 2: these days. 322 00:16:57,760 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 1: For my dear Amy Robot. I'm TJ. Holmes, and we 323 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 1: will be talking to your real estate 324 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 3: Man.