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Speaker 1: I listen to the Black Guy Who Tips podcast because

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Speaker 1: Rod and Karen.

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Speaker 2: Hey, welcome to the Blackouts Podcast. I'm your host, Rod,

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Speaker 2: joined us always by.

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Speaker 3: My co host here, and we're live on.

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Speaker 2: A Sunday afternoon. Ready to do some podcast and find

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Speaker 2: us exclusively on Spotify. And we have a very special

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Speaker 2: first time guest on the show, although not my first

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Speaker 2: time virtually meeting him. Today's guest is comedian, commentator, writer,

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Speaker 2: host of the Barbershop on Facebook, former host to Get

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Speaker 2: Up DC, current host of the Team nine eighty and

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Speaker 2: something else new about to come.

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Speaker 3: Out that we ain't even he ain't even even told y'all.

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Speaker 4: We don't even know about that hot Hey kid, Yeah, it's.

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Speaker 3: My man, Reese Waters.

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Speaker 4: What's going on?

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Speaker 3: Reese, Hey, what's happening?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm the proverbial. I'm working on something. I'm working

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Speaker 1: on something. I'm the laugh it's about to come out,

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Speaker 1: don't worry about it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, we got a new show we're working working on

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Speaker 5: at seven pm. Your boy Randolph, yes, sir, from the

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Speaker 5: Three Guys on podcast is working on it as well

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Speaker 5: with me. So yeah, man, it's been good and I'm

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Speaker 5: happy and shout out to you Karen as well for

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Speaker 5: you and Rod and everything that you built. I gotta

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Speaker 5: salute you man for all you have done for breaking

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Speaker 5: stereotypes with the black guy who tips his little nod.

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Speaker 5: You'll save me a couple of dollars a number of

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Speaker 5: times from not just trying to do my part to

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Speaker 5: break stereotypes, because you know, we feel personal responsibility in

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Speaker 5: a lot of these situations.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 2: It's that guilt, that racial guilt that you feel where

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Speaker 2: you like I noticed, the worst thing is the head

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Speaker 2: trip is when you get either bad service or just

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Speaker 2: okay service, and then you overtip like you're trying to

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Speaker 2: prove something to them like we.

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Speaker 3: Do, like about if we'd be angry, we'd be like,

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Speaker 3: I'm approved of you, Like you really got the wrong

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Speaker 3: one today, thirty five percent. This is gonna show his ass.

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Speaker 2: But he don't know who he fucking with extra paid

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Speaker 2: like I had, Like I did learn this, Like I

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Speaker 2: knew I was in a better place when I stopped

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Speaker 2: doing that part where I'm like, if.

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Speaker 3: You give me shitty service, that's literally on you.

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Speaker 2: But I used to be in a place where even

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Speaker 2: with shitty service, I would overtip the proof I don't

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Speaker 2: know what I was proven to prove something.

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Speaker 1: It's a heavy burden, man.

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Speaker 5: I am personally responsible for a number of kids, prep

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Speaker 5: school kids in DC for learning that there was some

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Speaker 5: black people that would trash basketball. That was my part, Hey,

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Speaker 5: you gotta show trash. I was like, you know what,

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Speaker 5: this is good for these kids?

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Speaker 3: Teach the babies.

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Like someone's gotta be good

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Speaker 2: at other things.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so here this is me double dribbling. See what

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Speaker 3: I'm saying. That's not supposed to happen.

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Speaker 5: When I tell you I was behind a white kid

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Speaker 5: with freckles named Morgan, it sounds like a joke. But

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Speaker 5: I can show you a photo of the kid Morgan

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Speaker 5: that started over me on the freshman team.

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Speaker 1: What happens.

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Speaker 2: I'm assuming that that must have been its own like

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Speaker 2: head trip for you because you look like you could

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Speaker 2: play ball. I like, you know, I've seen pictures of

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Speaker 2: you and stuff. You're kind of tall, you know, athletic slim.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure you've been at a lot of basketball courts.

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Speaker 2: So you were picked too early in the in the

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Speaker 2: draft cycle. But you just you just have to not

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Speaker 2: say nothing like y'all y'all sure number three, Okay.

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Speaker 1: I guess yeah.

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Speaker 5: When they start picking teams, that's when you got to

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Speaker 5: do a bathroom break. You gotta dig in your bag.

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Speaker 5: You just got to make yourself real inconspicuous, right.

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Speaker 1: It was so bad. When I was a kid.

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Speaker 5: My dad would coach the team so that I could

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Speaker 1: That was really the only way I could be.

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Speaker 5: On, like the youth team, is that if my dad coached,

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Speaker 5: and then he would invite our family members to come

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Speaker 5: down to the game. And I didn't want to say

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Speaker 5: nothing because I didn't want to announce, like to the

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Speaker 5: world that I was trashed. But I would just quietly

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Speaker 5: pray that they couldn't make it, that they was gonna

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Speaker 5: be late. It was an accident, something happened in traffic.

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Speaker 5: I was like, please don't come and sit on the best,

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Speaker 3: When you're a black dude. That's not good at basketball.

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Speaker 2: People take that personally offensive, like like like you tricked them,

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Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, Like, how fucking dare you

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Speaker 2: walk up in this YMCA in basketball? You're like, like,

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Speaker 2: we should have known when he came in low tops

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Speaker 2: and come on soon and hammer pants. We should have

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Speaker 2: known he wasn't have a basketball the one he was black.

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Speaker 4: I had to pick him.

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Speaker 1: The second I saw ewings, I should.

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Speaker 5: Have known nobody was willingly coming to this gym where

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Speaker 5: ewings are we called them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was bad, it was.

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Speaker 6: And you did the opposite thing that I did when

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Speaker 6: I graduated from college.

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Speaker 4: Now, this was a purely a mistake.

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Speaker 6: When I graduated from college and I sent my invitations

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Speaker 6: out for college, I actually put like an hour early

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Speaker 6: by accident on the invitation, and so a lot of

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Speaker 6: my family actually showed.

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Speaker 4: Up on time. Oh yeah, And they was like, did

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Speaker 4: you trick us? I was like, no, I didn't trick us.

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Speaker 4: They're talking about I just knew I was gonna be late,

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Speaker 4: but I showed up all the time.

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Speaker 1: I shocked myself.

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Speaker 6: I said it was by mistake, but it was a

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Speaker 6: good thing. So I did the reverse. I was like,

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Speaker 6: I want you all to actually see the event. So

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Speaker 6: I kind of scheduled in our early.

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Speaker 5: Care well, black people will accidentally show up on time,

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Speaker 5: realize that they're on time, and then go do something

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Speaker 5: for five or ten minutes so they could come back late.

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Speaker 1: I'll be honest, I have done that before.

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Speaker 5: I'm like, am I early? Oh I know, I ain't

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Speaker 5: about to be early. Let me go see what CDs

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Speaker 6: See, I'm gonna tell you this. I have learned the

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Speaker 2: She says, as I am in here every time at

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Speaker 6: Yeah, but I'm here before the guest come so I'm

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Speaker 3: Oh so now I am late.

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Speaker 1: So now y'all tell the truth.

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Speaker 2: We don't have we don't have we don't have guests

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Speaker 6: You were saying, yes, like I was saying, I try

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Speaker 6: my best to be on time. I have learned the

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Speaker 6: events that I am late for is always somebody's barbecue,

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Speaker 6: a cookout, or whatever you want to call it. West Coast,

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Speaker 6: East Coast, because I got tired of being the setup

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Speaker 6: leave early so I don't get caught at either crew,

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Speaker 6: so I could just calm and eat and then take

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Speaker 6: my black ass home because I came to chill. And

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Speaker 6: then next thing I know, I'm taking orders. I'm frying fish.

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Speaker 6: I done ran to the stove. I was like, this

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Speaker 6: was not a part of a plan.

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Speaker 4: Well, I learned how to be late for those events.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, black people want to put you to work.

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Speaker 1: Caring and my only one.

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Speaker 5: I don't announce when I showed up, and I don't

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Speaker 5: announce when I leave.

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Speaker 1: You just gonna see me.

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Speaker 5: There be like, oh, Rich when you get I've been here.

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Speaker 3: I was over.

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Speaker 6: I was over.

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Speaker 1: I was over by the trees over there. I was

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Speaker 1: hanging out with Uncle earling them. You know, we was

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Speaker 1: kicking it. I've been here for at list an hour

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Speaker 1: or two knowing I just pulled up.

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Speaker 3: Yes, as an introvert, that's my move.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, me and Roger got it down pack because we've

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Speaker 6: been married for so long.

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Speaker 4: We got it down pack. So it's two things.

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Speaker 6: We either look at each other, everybody get ahead, nod,

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Speaker 6: and then and then we'll we'll we'll we'll get up

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Speaker 6: and go.

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Speaker 4: We'll either we'll text each.

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Speaker 6: Other because you know, everybody on their phone now there

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Speaker 6: don't nobody know who you're texting and what you're texting

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Speaker 6: or either as a woman, like this is one thing patriarchy.

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Speaker 6: I always blame Roderick, like like.

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Speaker 4: Sometimes I just throw him up as an excuse.

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Speaker 6: And and when you say you got a man, everybody

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Speaker 6: they respect the man's opinion, you know, just to keep

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Speaker 6: this real, they go okay. And so a lot of

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Speaker 6: times Roger would come, he'll put here, likely put his

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Speaker 4: By all right, baby, we got to go.

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Speaker 3: I got to go.

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Speaker 6: We got to go, girl.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I like.

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Speaker 6: Joada, So I learned how to smoothly get away. And

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Speaker 6: I blame Roger for shit, and he'll just take the blame.

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Speaker 3: That took years of work.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, no, it did it.

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Speaker 6: Because I'm an extrovert and I'm like, the part is here,

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Speaker 6: let's go.

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Speaker 4: He was like, it's really time that she.

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Speaker 2: Still she's still a backslide too, because like it'll be like, yes,

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Speaker 2: it'll be like when we had a live show in DC.

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Speaker 2: People are coming over talking, hanging out and stuff, and

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Speaker 2: it was pretty cool, but we had done the show.

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, I'm tired now, like I've

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Speaker 2: because because you know, for them, it's like fun.

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Speaker 3: For me, it was work.

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Speaker 2: The whole time was work, Like set up this the

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Speaker 2: internet ain't working on this thing. How we gonna get

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Speaker 2: this sound to fake? What the soundboard?

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Speaker 1: Like?

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Speaker 3: All this ship? It was hot as fuck?

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Speaker 4: That what's years ago?

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Speaker 3: So I have dot, we get it, We get done.

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Speaker 2: We go to like you know, like a little bar

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Speaker 2: thing for like a little drink or two, and then

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Speaker 2: we're gonna head out.

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Speaker 6: Man.

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Speaker 2: Why I think it was gonna be a drink or too.

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Speaker 2: It was like it was like after midnight. I'm just

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Speaker 2: overing here like like I'm about People are looking at

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Speaker 2: me like, are you okay.

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Speaker 3: I'm just like, I don't know, brother, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I did the show already.

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Speaker 5: I'm not getting paid for all of this.

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Speaker 1: This is over time Comedia's experience.

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Speaker 5: And then they think they're doing you a favor about

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Speaker 5: trying to set you up for your own materials, So

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Speaker 5: you do it. I was like, yeah, no, no, yeah, tell.

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Speaker 6: and it was Hilary.

444
00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:53,840
Speaker 4: He gave me a phone call and he was like, oh,

445
00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:57,000
Speaker 4: I lost my job, and he's sad, and I was

446
00:18:57,080 --> 00:19:00,240
Speaker 4: happy because I was like, thank god, nigga, we do

447
00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:02,760
Speaker 4: what we want to do. Fuck that job. Do what

448
00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:03,440
Speaker 4: you need to do.

449
00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:05,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, now here's the question.

450
00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:09,960
Speaker 5: If you lose your job on your lady's birthday, are

451
00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:11,560
Speaker 5: you still responsible for a gift.

452
00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:15,600
Speaker 2: I don't even remember that day, like it was such

453
00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:18,679
Speaker 2: a blank like cause it was the other part that

454
00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:20,040
Speaker 2: she's I had to day off.

455
00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:22,480
Speaker 4: Yes, both times he had the day off, so.

456
00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:24,119
Speaker 1: I was like, you had Friday.

457
00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:27,240
Speaker 2: I was at home chilling and I get a phone

458
00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:29,880
Speaker 2: call from work. I'm like, what the fuck these niggas want.

459
00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:31,959
Speaker 2: I've been scheduled this day off and it's like, we

460
00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:32,320
Speaker 2: need you.

461
00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:32,639
Speaker 3: To come in.

462
00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:35,480
Speaker 2: I'm like, for work, I had this day off. They're

463
00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:37,600
Speaker 2: like it won't take long. It's really important that we

464
00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:38,959
Speaker 2: don't want to do this over the phone. I'm like,

465
00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:41,240
Speaker 2: oh shit, wow, yeah, wow.

466
00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:43,320
Speaker 5: They gave you the full They allowed you to be

467
00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:46,360
Speaker 5: prepared if you wanted to go in write and do damage.

468
00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:49,000
Speaker 1: That's not what you're supposed to tell people, right.

469
00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:52,600
Speaker 3: I had to dress up if my work closed.

470
00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:54,640
Speaker 2: I really but you know, in hindsight, I really wish

471
00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:56,359
Speaker 2: I went in with the jigging fans I had on

472
00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:59,280
Speaker 2: you as well. And then I was there for like

473
00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:01,840
Speaker 2: fifteen twenty minutes while they just was like, yeah, we're

474
00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:03,119
Speaker 2: letting a lot of people go today.

475
00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:05,840
Speaker 3: It was on the list. I want to get your opportunity.

476
00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:08,680
Speaker 2: You know, they tell you can't get your stuff off

477
00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:11,560
Speaker 2: your desk. You can send someone to get your stuff

478
00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:14,040
Speaker 2: off your desk somehow for this job.

479
00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:16,520
Speaker 6: Yeah, because they don't want you in the fucking sit up.

480
00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:17,880
Speaker 6: Because everybody don't take that.

481
00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:20,560
Speaker 3: Well right, they probably go in the this whole job.

482
00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:24,040
Speaker 4: Is bullshit and started hate everybody.

483
00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:28,000
Speaker 3: Look up, stop working. Hey I'm fired. Okay, I didn't

484
00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:31,159
Speaker 3: do nothing wrong a black man, So they wash.

485
00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:35,359
Speaker 2: They let somebody go get my ship, gave me a box,

486
00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:36,840
Speaker 2: and then you know, then you got.

487
00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:37,600
Speaker 3: To add a sad.

488
00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:39,320
Speaker 1: Box.

489
00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:43,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, the box I have like a sad because I

490
00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:45,080
Speaker 2: had been there for like twelve years, so I had

491
00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:48,960
Speaker 2: to have a sad box. Handoff with a my other

492
00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:51,200
Speaker 2: with the people that didn't lose their job, like my man.

493
00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:53,520
Speaker 3: I think it was my man Will. He's like, hey, man,

494
00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:54,560
Speaker 3: I think I got everything.

495
00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:56,960
Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, man, well I guess see, you never

496
00:20:57,080 --> 00:21:00,320
Speaker 2: appreciate this. Uh you know, it's cool working with you

497
00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:01,040
Speaker 2: and all that ship.

498
00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:02,919
Speaker 3: But yeah, and then you got.

499
00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:04,800
Speaker 1: All my stuff. Take it to the bathroom, set it on.

500
00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:09,440
Speaker 3: Here's what I'm gonna need you to do. Look under

501
00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:10,800
Speaker 3: the drawer. It's a gun.

502
00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:15,439
Speaker 2: Pull that ship out. Don't shoot our manager in the chest, okay,

503
00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:16,000
Speaker 2: because that.

504
00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:16,800
Speaker 3: Nigga gotta coming.

505
00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:18,919
Speaker 4: And see that's why people like me. I do the

506
00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:19,960
Speaker 4: bare minimum. You know what.

507
00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:22,800
Speaker 6: I keep my motherfucking pocketbook. You tell me, I got

508
00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:27,240
Speaker 6: to go. All I need is my pocketbook. Everything y'all

509
00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:29,040
Speaker 6: keep everything else at this goddamn desk.

510
00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:29,879
Speaker 4: Get yours anyway.

511
00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:33,680
Speaker 2: So yeah, and then the second time I got laid off,

512
00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:40,880
Speaker 2: I had the day off again. I was coming home

513
00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:41,880
Speaker 2: from playing basketball.

514
00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:45,200
Speaker 3: The why and the dude send me a Facebook direct

515
00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:49,159
Speaker 3: message message like a coworker like, oh, man, sorry to

516
00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:51,879
Speaker 3: hear about that. Man, Is everything okay with you? Your

517
00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:52,520
Speaker 3: family and stuff.

518
00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:55,280
Speaker 2: I was like, sorry to hear about what what happened.

519
00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:57,600
Speaker 2: He's like, oh, you know the layoffs?

520
00:21:57,600 --> 00:21:57,840
Speaker 6: Man?

521
00:21:57,960 --> 00:21:59,680
Speaker 2: You know I heard you got laid off. I was like, well,

522
00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:02,440
Speaker 2: actually I had the day off, so.

523
00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:06,960
Speaker 4: I guess you're breaking the new.

524
00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:08,399
Speaker 3: I'm like, I did not know.

525
00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:10,600
Speaker 2: He's like, oh, well, you know it probably was a mistake.

526
00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:13,199
Speaker 2: I'm like, well, that don't sound like if you.

527
00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:13,920
Speaker 4: Heard my name.

528
00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:15,720
Speaker 3: You heard my name.

529
00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:16,640
Speaker 1: This is legal.

530
00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:19,960
Speaker 3: This is your birthday, right, It's Karen's birthday.

531
00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:20,760
Speaker 1: Yeah.

532
00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:24,360
Speaker 2: So he's like yeah, he's like September twenty third. I'm

533
00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:28,240
Speaker 2: like yeah, social Security number. Like so I went, uh,

534
00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:31,919
Speaker 2: I went into work the next day, swipe my card.

535
00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:34,400
Speaker 3: Shit didn't work. I said, oh it was true. It's

536
00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:34,800
Speaker 3: me too.

537
00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:37,640
Speaker 1: And Jackson.

538
00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:39,639
Speaker 2: Before I could turn away and go back to the car,

539
00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:41,120
Speaker 2: they was waiting. I was like, oh no, you can

540
00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:43,280
Speaker 2: come on in. We're gonna spipe in. Come on in, brother,

541
00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:43,920
Speaker 2: we need to talk.

542
00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:46,880
Speaker 3: And this time I got to do my own boxing.

543
00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:49,080
Speaker 3: So that was a that was a privilege.

544
00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:51,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, you was talking about the old man in there

545
00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:52,639
Speaker 6: when you left.

546
00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:56,879
Speaker 2: Oh the manager dude that he didn't even he was

547
00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:59,400
Speaker 2: such well, I had a dude that was a manager

548
00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:02,760
Speaker 2: that was like a really mean man, kind of like

549
00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:05,520
Speaker 2: one of those people that was He's not mean, he's

550
00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:10,760
Speaker 2: insecure and so he uses fear instead of actual management.

551
00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:13,240
Speaker 2: So like he so like he's one of those people

552
00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:19,400
Speaker 2: where you know, these guys are like six five, white dude, older,

553
00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:24,119
Speaker 2: deep baritone voice, you know, like like just life is

554
00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:27,399
Speaker 2: easier for this. The default setting on them is rookie,

555
00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:31,080
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. So, so like they like

556
00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:35,439
Speaker 2: not necessarily smarter than you, not necessarily.

557
00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:38,480
Speaker 3: Better spoken than you, but it does that thing where

558
00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:39,000
Speaker 3: they do like.

559
00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:41,320
Speaker 2: The slow talk where like so you can't tell how

560
00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:44,359
Speaker 2: dumb ny'all were like, well have you tried?

561
00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:47,360
Speaker 3: Were you said in the computer? And you're just like,

562
00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:50,359
Speaker 3: of course I tried. Did you get a degree in this?

563
00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:51,760
Speaker 4: What is happened?

564
00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:56,960
Speaker 3: What do you manage? Exactly? So anyway, he was normally

565
00:23:57,040 --> 00:24:01,240
Speaker 3: a like intimidating dude. This was hiding in this office.

566
00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:04,400
Speaker 2: I was like this bitch, like I'm packing my shit

567
00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:07,080
Speaker 2: up like this Nick can't even come out and say

568
00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:11,600
Speaker 2: nothing to me, like you know, hey, you work because

569
00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:12,119
Speaker 2: that was out there.

570
00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:14,840
Speaker 3: I never had a bad performance review. I never got ridden.

571
00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:18,680
Speaker 2: There was no reading other than just we letting twenty

572
00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:19,480
Speaker 2: seven people go.

573
00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:22,040
Speaker 3: And he couldn't even come out and face me.

574
00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:22,240
Speaker 4: Man.

575
00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:23,760
Speaker 2: I was like, what do you think I'm gonna do?

576
00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:27,200
Speaker 2: Just go crazy like we've been cordial the whole time.

577
00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:29,920
Speaker 2: Was it was crazy. But yeah, but sometimes that shit

578
00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:33,200
Speaker 2: moves out your way, like you said, yeah, we wouldn't

579
00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:34,920
Speaker 2: be doing we're doing today not for that ship.

580
00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:38,520
Speaker 5: So I swear when they hired those IT people, they

581
00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:40,560
Speaker 5: just asked them to use some big words.

582
00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:42,200
Speaker 1: If you can use some big words.

583
00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:44,240
Speaker 5: That they don't understand, you can get hired in it today.

584
00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:46,520
Speaker 5: I swear it's like damon, Wayne's in the Living Color.

585
00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:49,720
Speaker 1: Yes, they was like, what what's going on right here?

586
00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:54,399
Speaker 1: To transistors the spark plugs right router? I was, okay,

587
00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:55,400
Speaker 1: you gotta let me.

588
00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:58,640
Speaker 3: Let me defragment the flux capacity real quick.

589
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:01,679
Speaker 2: As soon as you turn your head. They looking it

590
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:05,320
Speaker 2: up on YouTube. How do you read the computer computer

591
00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:06,720
Speaker 2: blue screen? How I fix that?

592
00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:08,560
Speaker 3: But yeah, my brother.

593
00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:11,560
Speaker 5: Experienced with that rod though, because I was working on

594
00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:15,639
Speaker 5: a show called Unit on ESPNU with my boy Danny

595
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:19,639
Speaker 5: Canal and there was This is in the days of

596
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:22,280
Speaker 5: dead Spin, when dead spind was just dropping dimes on

597
00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:25,960
Speaker 5: people right and dead spind had wrote an article saying

598
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,760
Speaker 5: that the show was canceled, but that show came on

599
00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:32,159
Speaker 5: at midnight, and so I would stay awake till like

600
00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:34,920
Speaker 5: five ish in the morning, and I would sleep until

601
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:37,320
Speaker 5: like noon or one, and I would go in late

602
00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:39,320
Speaker 5: in the afternoon. They dropped this bad boy at eight

603
00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:43,520
Speaker 5: in the morning, so people had five ish hours to

604
00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:45,960
Speaker 5: look at the fact that my show was canceled before

605
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:49,959
Speaker 5: I even woke up. I woke and I picked up

606
00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:53,920
Speaker 5: my phone. I had colleagues in there. I had cousins

607
00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:56,679
Speaker 5: in there. I had people from high school that I

608
00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:58,320
Speaker 5: ain't talked to you since graduation.

609
00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:02,000
Speaker 1: My mama was in there. Everybody like you good, you good,

610
00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:04,280
Speaker 1: Like what's going on? I was like wow. So just

611
00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:07,240
Speaker 1: everybody finds out I lost my job, and I find

612
00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:08,520
Speaker 1: out last that's what we're doing.

613
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:13,800
Speaker 4: I'm like, wow, Wow.

614
00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:13,959
Speaker 1: That's a ball. Kareem.

615
00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:18,200
Speaker 5: I ain't even heard from you since oh four, but

616
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:20,640
Speaker 5: you took this moment to find my number to look

617
00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:23,080
Speaker 5: me up. Just the glow that I lost my job.

618
00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:24,120
Speaker 5: That's how petty we are.

619
00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:27,200
Speaker 2: That's crazy because I never thought about that angle of it.

620
00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:29,200
Speaker 3: When you have a public facing.

621
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:33,439
Speaker 2: Job, right when you lose it, everybody knows sometimes before

622
00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:36,280
Speaker 2: you fucking know. Even if you knew first, it still

623
00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:39,160
Speaker 2: sucks because that now they're texting you and tweeting you

624
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:42,800
Speaker 2: and all this shit. You're just like, damn, man, did

625
00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:46,760
Speaker 2: I fuck up? Is everything this bad? Like this man

626
00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:49,359
Speaker 2: got cancer? He's sending me condolences.

627
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:50,520
Speaker 3: This is what is wrong?

628
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:54,520
Speaker 5: You know, somebody knows they lost their job in advance.

629
00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:57,040
Speaker 1: When they start getting real spiritual with the status upject,

630
00:26:57,760 --> 00:26:59,240
Speaker 1: they start getting little better.

631
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:02,640
Speaker 5: They start ropping the script the scriptures on there. You're like, oh,

632
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:05,640
Speaker 5: I'm going on with the talk right now?

633
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:07,959
Speaker 4: When yet that love?

634
00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:11,879
Speaker 6: When when the door closes, Jesus opens the window.

635
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:14,200
Speaker 4: Yes, you get them quotes.

636
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:17,440
Speaker 3: God never put nothing in your path that you can't overcome.

637
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:20,359
Speaker 4: Yes, He never puts no more on you than you

638
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:21,640
Speaker 4: can beare my favorite.

639
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:26,359
Speaker 3: Jesus, keep me from killing these motherfuckers today ship he

640
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:27,320
Speaker 3: must have got fired.

641
00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 5: Oh man, I would love to drop one of those.

642
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:32,600
Speaker 5: The Lord will never give me more than I could bear.

643
00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 5: So if you could contribute to this go fund, come

644
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:38,200
Speaker 5: out right, here's hurd in my life.

645
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:41,440
Speaker 3: The Lord put GoFundMe in my life with cash app

646
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:42,040
Speaker 3: and PayPal.

647
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 4: Let's do that demo?

648
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:47,159
Speaker 2: Come on the Holy Trinity, the New Holy Trinity. So

649
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:50,919
Speaker 2: then you're doing stand up? What's the transition from stand

650
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:53,960
Speaker 2: up to like working, you know, in front of the

651
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:54,840
Speaker 2: camera and stuff.

652
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 1: So I have to give a lot of props to

653
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:03,200
Speaker 1: one of my friends in comedy, Liz Meeley, who I

654
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:06,800
Speaker 1: think has been on it. Yeah, so Liz.

655
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:11,280
Speaker 5: So she encouraged me because I would talk about sports

656
00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 5: all the time, like in my personal life, but I

657
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:16,520
Speaker 5: would never talk about on stage. And she encouraged me

658
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:21,800
Speaker 5: to start working on jokes, like writing jokes about sports.

659
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:24,240
Speaker 5: And I was like, I can't do that because I

660
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:26,480
Speaker 5: know too much, Like I'm too much of a sports nerd.

661
00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:30,080
Speaker 5: Don't nobody want to hear jokes about salary caps and

662
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:34,080
Speaker 5: you know and luxury taxes? Don't nobody want to hear

663
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 5: jokes about that? But I can't do the George Carlin

664
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:38,480
Speaker 5: like why is the basketball orange? Like I'm like, I'm

665
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:40,640
Speaker 5: not gonna do that, right because she was like, why

666
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:43,000
Speaker 5: don't you try? So like I went I went home

667
00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 5: one weekend between a Friday night, a Saturday, and a Sunday.

668
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:49,200
Speaker 1: I wrote it was it was like, it was like

669
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 1: the floodgates opened up, and I wrote a bunch.

670
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 5: Of sports jokes, but I also wrote a bunch of

671
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:59,000
Speaker 5: material that ended up becoming the basis of the set

672
00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:02,280
Speaker 5: that I did on on Letterman a couple of years later. So, like,

673
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 5: I literally just wrote, like half the good jokes I've

674
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 5: written in my whole life were written in one weekend.

675
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:11,360
Speaker 1: That's basically you can read it like that. So I

676
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:13,720
Speaker 1: wrote these jokes, I taped.

677
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 5: It, I put it on YouTube, and it just so

678
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 5: happens that there was a network called Versus, which is

679
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:23,880
Speaker 5: now NBC Sports Network. They had all realized that they

680
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:27,320
Speaker 5: were fired, but they could keep their job for a year.

681
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:29,560
Speaker 5: So they were like, we just gonna throw stuff against

682
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:31,800
Speaker 5: the wall and see what sticks. And that's how people

683
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 5: like me get in the door. Right when people can't

684
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 5: be extra fired, that's when they'd be like, Oh, let's

685
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 5: bring it in. Hen't he can't What could he do?

686
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 5: We ain't got nothing to lose. So they brought me

687
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 5: in and I worked on a show called The Daily

688
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:52,640
Speaker 5: Line and quiet as kept.

689
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:55,480
Speaker 1: It ended up being a really dope cast. We had

690
00:29:55,600 --> 00:30:00,680
Speaker 1: Molly Caram from First who's first take Now.

691
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:05,320
Speaker 5: We had we had Liam McHugh who's still with NBC Sports.

692
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:07,640
Speaker 5: He does like Notre Dame stuff and does like a

693
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:10,640
Speaker 5: lot of hockey stuff for them. We had Jen Sturger

694
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 5: who's doing stand up out in la Uh and me

695
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:18,320
Speaker 5: and nobody watched that show except for the people at ESPN.

696
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 5: So people at ESPN watched that show. And after that

697
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:26,160
Speaker 5: show went away because the network went away. Literally we

698
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:29,760
Speaker 5: were there's positions to fail and they're getting a show

699
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:33,000
Speaker 5: on a network that's going away in a year, right, right,

700
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 5: talking about positions to fail. But yeah, I ended up

701
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 5: getting a call up to ESPN shortly after that. So

702
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 5: it really was very like happenstance and really random and

703
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 5: not at all played by me.

704
00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's what Jesus and Merrill said when I

705
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 2: was listening to them get interviewed. It might've been on

706
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:56,320
Speaker 2: Larry Willmore show, but he was, you know, asking him

707
00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:58,720
Speaker 2: about that success, and that was like, it wasn't about

708
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:01,320
Speaker 2: having a lot of listeners as much as just the

709
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 2: right people listened. And then they ended up on like

710
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:09,240
Speaker 2: Vice and in Showtime because the people that worked there

711
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 2: that had a little bit of pull just happened to

712
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 2: be the people that listened to them. So yeah, like

713
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:17,640
Speaker 2: you said, ESPN was paying attention, So that right there

714
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 2: kind of took care of yourself.

715
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 5: And the interesting thing though, because I look, I look

716
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:24,200
Speaker 5: at my career and even how I got back here

717
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 5: to DC, and a lot of it has been these random,

718
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:30,840
Speaker 5: weird occurrences of doors opening and this person seeing this thing,

719
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 5: and I like to kind of flow with that. So

720
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 5: when you know, and there are situations that I wouldn't

721
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 5: have necessarily put myself in, but when the possibility exists,

722
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 5: I'm like, oh, I could see that. That seems like

723
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:46,480
Speaker 5: it would be a natural progression for me to make.

724
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 5: The flip side, though, is there's been a lot of

725
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 5: creatives that we've seen say no when situations present themselves

726
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 5: that they don't feel like it's optimal for them. And

727
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:01,800
Speaker 5: in a lot of cases like Easter is a prime example, right, Easter,

728
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:06,480
Speaker 5: Ray is so strategic in how she moves and that

729
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:08,720
Speaker 5: clearly has worked out really well for her, having a

730
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 5: plan for where exactly it is that she wants to go.

731
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 1: And so there's no right or.

732
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:17,000
Speaker 5: Wrong, but part of me does wonder sometimes like if

733
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:20,720
Speaker 5: early on I would have been more like strategic and Okay, this.

734
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 1: Is where I want to go, this is what I

735
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 1: want to do. How that would have worked itself out?

736
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:28,120
Speaker 5: Because obviously not every move I've made has been golding, Right,

737
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:32,120
Speaker 5: We'll put it like that. I like to be sold,

738
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 5: whether i'm invest buy or whether you're selling me on

739
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 5: a show.

740
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 1: I like to be so I know that about myself.

741
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 5: So I'm going to a store, I'm like, don't even

742
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 5: talk to me because I will buy that vacuum clean.

743
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 1: I like to be sold, right, yeah.

744
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, And if you know that about yourself, then I

745
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 2: mean that's really the most powerful thing you can have,

746
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:52,320
Speaker 2: is knowing it ahead of time so you can create

747
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 2: those boundaries. What sports do you find, uh, you know,

748
00:32:57,840 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 2: relative to just regular comedy.

749
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 3: Do you find sports fans to be like I feel

750
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 3: like sports fans are a little sensitive when it comes

751
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 3: to like a.

752
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:13,200
Speaker 1: Little sensitive, yeah, a little sensitive.

753
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 5: Wow. I'm like, I'm talking about the Jaguars, not your mama, right,

754
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 5: Jackuars one.

755
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:24,000
Speaker 1: But two games? Like why are you so confensive?

756
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 5: Right?

757
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 1: Garbage?

758
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:26,520
Speaker 6: Right?

759
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 2: I'm not all sort And that's the thing I think

760
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:30,760
Speaker 2: for me it's kind of weird because I'm not a

761
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 2: sensitive sports fan at all, like like my not.

762
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:36,600
Speaker 4: Being in Charlotte, Nope, Yeah, the teams I like have

763
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:37,640
Speaker 4: some ray.

764
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:40,120
Speaker 2: Caruf happened there, you know what I mean, Like like

765
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:43,960
Speaker 2: you can't internalize these things so but so much, you know.

766
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:47,720
Speaker 2: But also because uh, I see sports is like, uh, it's.

767
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 3: Escapism, you know what I mean.

768
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:51,880
Speaker 2: It's just like here's a thing we're gonna pay attention to,

769
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:55,120
Speaker 2: so we can all ignore with slowly dying, one breath

770
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 2: at a time, one one sale at a time. Let's

771
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 2: argue over who was better Michael Jordan, Lebron James, so

772
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 2: you don't have to think about the creeping death that

773
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 2: is upon all of us.

774
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 3: And that's all it's here for.

775
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 2: But man, like sports people are so like they'll fight you,

776
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, They will harass you. They are,

777
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:16,239
Speaker 2: and it can be.

778
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:18,279
Speaker 3: Over like I don't think your team is good, and

779
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:21,279
Speaker 3: it's like I'm gonna fuck you up right.

780
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 5: I'm like, how is it that all thirty two teams

781
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:25,440
Speaker 5: think I'm against them?

782
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 6: Like?

783
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:26,399
Speaker 3: How did that one?

784
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't want to say.

785
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 5: Look, I've never had anybody react in a comedy show.

786
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:38,800
Speaker 1: With like violence or well like with threats of violence. Okay,

787
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 1: that has never happened.

788
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 5: You could you could find something not funny, or you

789
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:45,239
Speaker 5: can find you could be a little bit sensitive about something.

790
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:48,320
Speaker 5: I've had people approach me after shows, but never like

791
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 5: sports fans, whereas you go over the sports, they one,

792
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:55,239
Speaker 5: I'm making jokes and people are coming from me and

793
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:59,239
Speaker 5: my mentions. They they have no level of chill when

794
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 5: it comes to the thing that's supposed to be escaping.

795
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:06,719
Speaker 1: They treated like you know what I mean? Yeah right.

796
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:09,840
Speaker 3: I think maybe it helps that, uh.

797
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 2: I was born into a family where my dad is

798
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 2: a Duke fan and I'm a Chapel Hill fan, and

799
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 2: saw most black people with any reasonable sense in North Carolina,

800
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 2: and so every every time I'm home, you know, every

801
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 2: time I see them, we talking some ship and it

802
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:28,880
Speaker 2: so to me it's like, you don't take it personal

803
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:29,799
Speaker 2: because it's ship talking.

804
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:33,640
Speaker 3: My teammates ship, you know, only only coons like this team.

805
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 3: I saw your boy got arrested.

806
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:38,120
Speaker 4: Like it's yes, and it's jump time for us. Just

807
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 4: like with the Cowboys fans.

808
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 6: You know, when the Carolina prencipate of Cowboys, we got

809
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:46,120
Speaker 6: to sit there and then listen to them blow off

810
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 6: that that trophy and and.

811
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 4: Talking about how about damn cow I'm like, niggas.

812
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:50,800
Speaker 3: Don't get out here with that.

813
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:53,680
Speaker 2: I feel like maybe it's the Internet to like, maybe

814
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:58,720
Speaker 2: our social media makes where everybody like expresses their feelings

815
00:35:58,800 --> 00:35:59,320
Speaker 2: all day.

816
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 4: And then it's yeah, you know, they don't take it

817
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:01,839
Speaker 4: to the next list.

818
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:05,399
Speaker 2: So then I think with social media, you know, it's

819
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 2: the place where people go and be like I'm depressed

820
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:10,880
Speaker 2: or I'm sad or you know, I had this interaction

821
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:12,960
Speaker 2: and it made me feel this way, and now we

822
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:15,480
Speaker 2: having to hear shit from people that you know, it's like,

823
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:19,319
Speaker 2: I'm a Dallas Cowboys fan and I'm sad because they

824
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:21,919
Speaker 2: laughed at the trade we made. And it's like, yeah,

825
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:25,439
Speaker 2: but also, that's a team that's you didn't that's that's

826
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:28,719
Speaker 2: not you. Your team did some dumb shit. We can't

827
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:30,400
Speaker 2: talk about it because your feeling's gonna hurt.

828
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:30,839
Speaker 1: York.

829
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 3: That's weird.

830
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 5: Like that's when you know what ro I got first

831
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:36,759
Speaker 5: of all, because I know you're in North Carolina. My

832
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 5: dad is from Rocky Mount, North Carolina, and he has

833
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:43,759
Speaker 5: been a U n C fan his whole life.

834
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:47,200
Speaker 1: Right. So he passed a couple of years back before

835
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:48,000
Speaker 1: I came to d C.

836
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 5: But I went down to go visit the family and

837
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 5: I'm talking to my aunt and I started bringing up

838
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:57,239
Speaker 5: You and C. And she was like, well, she talked

839
00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:58,759
Speaker 5: to me for a little bit, but she was like, yeah,

840
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 5: but you know, I don't really i don't really care.

841
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 1: Too much for him. I'm a Duke fan myself. And

842
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 1: I was like, come again. He was like, yeah, I'm

843
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 1: a Duke fan.

844
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:09,319
Speaker 5: Our our family is split between Duke and North Carolina fans.

845
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 5: I had never had this conversation with them, so I

846
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:15,280
Speaker 5: just assumed they were all You and C fans. Reason

847
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:18,719
Speaker 5: this was like finding out that your pops is somebody else.

848
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:22,279
Speaker 5: Like I literally stat there like with my head, like

849
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:24,279
Speaker 5: I don't know how to process this news.

850
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 3: It's disappointed. It's disappointing.

851
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:29,720
Speaker 4: People get here and they be so confused because everybody,

852
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 4: like you'd.

853
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:37,440
Speaker 2: Like if I looked in the mirror, right, there's only

854
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:40,239
Speaker 2: one good answer here when I look at when I

855
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 2: look at somebody that got on like a Duke hat

856
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:45,879
Speaker 2: or whatever that was the original make America Great Again

857
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 2: hat for me, like the yard, the jarring feeling of

858
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:55,279
Speaker 2: like this, Like even when we played basketball, and there's, uh,

859
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:59,320
Speaker 2: this one white dude that always wear Duke shit and

860
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:01,919
Speaker 2: he's a exactly the kind of white dude you would

861
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 2: think he is. Like nobody likes him, he's an asshole.

862
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 2: Like I'm just like, why would anyone want to be

863
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:11,759
Speaker 2: affiliated with this? But then also the person that's been

864
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 2: the most pivotal, the closest thing I can call like

865
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 2: he ruin my life is a Duke fan.

866
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:19,440
Speaker 3: So it's like, you know, what the fuck am I'm

867
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 3: supposed to do with that?

868
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:23,160
Speaker 2: So I talked shit, That's what I do, And it

869
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:26,400
Speaker 2: didn't occur to me until you know, outside the opposites

870
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 2: of my house, when you talk to people, how personal

871
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 2: they take a little bit of shit talking about their teens.

872
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:35,400
Speaker 1: Graul and what's wild? I mean?

873
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 5: So you were talking about fans, right, and I love

874
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:40,759
Speaker 5: how fans behave because it's why I have a job, right,

875
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:43,880
Speaker 5: That's that's that's why you know I got the I

876
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:46,840
Speaker 5: got the good laptop right here with the good internet

877
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 5: right because of the fans and how they move.

878
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:51,799
Speaker 1: So I'm thankful for you fans being as crazy as

879
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 1: you walk.

880
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:55,960
Speaker 5: That being said, if you look at especially like professional

881
00:38:56,000 --> 00:39:00,120
Speaker 5: sports franchises. Right, Like, we're here in DC and we

882
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:02,239
Speaker 5: have Dan Snyder as the owner of our football team.

883
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 1: This man has had lawsuit after lawsuit after lawsuit.

884
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,239
Speaker 5: This man has tried to take over the media to

885
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:10,880
Speaker 5: try and suppress any negative coverage.

886
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 1: Of his team.

887
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:14,319
Speaker 5: This man has had cheerleaders come out and speak about

888
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:16,759
Speaker 5: what's going on with those trips. They've talked about the

889
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:20,880
Speaker 5: culture and sexual harassment. The team has been garbage. But

890
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:25,400
Speaker 5: if you come for the Washington football team, all of

891
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 5: a sudden, you are a trader and you are no

892
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:29,719
Speaker 5: longer allowed.

893
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 1: Back in the DMV.

894
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:34,759
Speaker 5: And I'm like, well, you understand that he uses this

895
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:39,480
Speaker 5: loyalty against you because if he feared that you actually

896
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:44,720
Speaker 5: might might leave this plantation, he would have to move differently.

897
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:47,359
Speaker 5: But he's free to be a jackass because he knows

898
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 5: you ain't going nowhere. Not to mention the fact you

899
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:53,239
Speaker 5: were talking about fans act like it's their team. I'm like,

900
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 5: let's get into the fact that we all finance in

901
00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 5: this stadium.

902
00:39:57,239 --> 00:40:00,600
Speaker 1: Come on, that he owns this is this is what

903
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:02,640
Speaker 1: tricks me out. So what a minute. So when fed

904
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:04,840
Speaker 1: exercise they want to put that money on the stadium.

905
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:06,320
Speaker 1: How does he get the money.

906
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 3: We paid for the right.

907
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:12,120
Speaker 1: We get to pay for something that is his and

908
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:14,399
Speaker 1: he gets to keep that. Dude, when you talk about

909
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:16,160
Speaker 1: a racket man, Yeah, they had.

910
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 2: A deal here in Charlotte when George shen Or the

911
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:22,400
Speaker 2: Hornets that the Hornets got Obviously they built the stadium

912
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:25,920
Speaker 2: for him, the Charlotte Collins Hill, and then in addition

913
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 2: to that, they got all of the parking and he

914
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:32,439
Speaker 2: only had to pay a dollar. He paid one dollar

915
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 2: to the city and then all parking proceeds went to

916
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 2: him for imperpetuity. And it was like, how it's so

917
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 2: when when people turned on the Hornets, they were basically

918
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 2: turning on him as well, like get this ship the

919
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 2: fuck out of our city, because the more stuff they came,

920
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 2: because at some point he said.

921
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 3: I need a new arena and everybody was like, well,

922
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:58,920
Speaker 3: what the fuck, Like are you losing money off the

923
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:03,759
Speaker 3: parking now He's like, we need more box seats in

924
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 3: this motherfucker.

925
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 1: They're like it's like it's hey, it ain't going far

926
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:10,279
Speaker 1: enough evidently, right, And this.

927
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:15,319
Speaker 6: Was decades ago when Hornets broke like records for consecutives

928
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:18,359
Speaker 6: sold out games, and this is where like the parking lot,

929
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 6: we had like one of the largest at the time,

930
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:22,439
Speaker 6: one of the largest arenas as far as like fan base.

931
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:24,440
Speaker 4: So you talk about thousands of.

932
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 6: Cars every single time, you're talking about twenty twenty five

933
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 6: dollars haven't much it was back then to park So

934
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:31,640
Speaker 6: it's like no, but yeah.

935
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 5: So and what kills me about that too, is that

936
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:37,520
Speaker 5: so I was in New York where they were doing

937
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:40,319
Speaker 5: the negotiations to build MetLife right where it is right

938
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:41,040
Speaker 5: now in New Jersey.

939
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:45,320
Speaker 1: So the whole process was the Giants.

940
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 5: And the Jets were playing Manhattan, Brooklyn, Long Island, Connecticut,

941
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 5: and New Jersey all against each other. And I'm looking

942
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 5: at that and I'm like, yo, if y'all all have

943
00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 5: some sense of freaking Soliday and you're like, we're not

944
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:05,799
Speaker 5: building your stadium because if Manhattan didn't do it, they're like, oh, well,

945
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 5: we'll move the team to Connecticut. And then it's like, oh,

946
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:10,279
Speaker 5: New Jersey, Oh we got like pick me, pick me.

947
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:12,759
Speaker 5: So New Jersey ends up giving them a sweetheart deal,

948
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 5: so they go to New Jersey. I'm like, if y'all

949
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:17,759
Speaker 5: have any level of solidarity, they're not gonna not have

950
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:18,839
Speaker 5: a team in New York.

951
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 1: You realize that.

952
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:24,399
Speaker 5: So if y'all will stand together, they will build their

953
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 5: own stadium because they understand that it's going to make

954
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:29,319
Speaker 5: money down the road.

955
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 1: It's an investment that they have to make.

956
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 5: But y'all so low self esteem that y'all all want

957
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:37,359
Speaker 5: to come up that y'all allow each other to get

958
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:39,480
Speaker 5: played against one another, and now the tax players got

959
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:39,920
Speaker 5: paid for it.

960
00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:41,360
Speaker 1: It freaking kills me.

961
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 5: It's no sense of And we is here in DC,

962
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:48,839
Speaker 5: between Montgomery and PG in Virginia and DC, nobody wants

963
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:49,640
Speaker 5: to stand together.

964
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:52,200
Speaker 1: They're not gonna not have a team in DC. They

965
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:52,920
Speaker 1: gonna build it.

966
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:54,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, what's crazy is I mean?

967
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 2: Okay, so they don't want to have a team there

968
00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:00,720
Speaker 2: like cause like like it's normally it's a money losing

969
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:03,160
Speaker 2: proposition for the city anyway, you know.

970
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 3: So it's like you're fighting the hardest to.

971
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:09,760
Speaker 2: Lose the money because it's like cause, because the deals

972
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 2: you have to make with these motherfuckers are never profitable

973
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:12,759
Speaker 2: for the city.

974
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 3: It's always taxpayer funded. And then they always want to

975
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:19,560
Speaker 3: re up within a much faster timeframe than you.

976
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:22,759
Speaker 2: Think, like the city things, Oh we'll get twenty years

977
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 2: out this arena. It's like, no, you're gonna get ten.

978
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:27,120
Speaker 2: You're gonna get ten, and then they're gonna come back

979
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:30,000
Speaker 2: asking for more money and uh yeah, And so like

980
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:34,719
Speaker 2: the they never make them make the awkward choice of like, Okay, cool,

981
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:37,360
Speaker 2: you don't We're not fucking with you in DC, we

982
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 2: told you our terms. You don't want to build here,

983
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:45,320
Speaker 2: fun go to fucking raw No Oak Rapids, North Carolina. Okay,

984
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:48,239
Speaker 2: you can be the Roanoke City Bandits, but you don't

985
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:50,320
Speaker 2: want to do that, do you? And that and that,

986
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:53,320
Speaker 2: and like because a couple of times, and what's funny

987
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:55,880
Speaker 2: is like a couple of times they found really good markets, right,

988
00:43:56,040 --> 00:44:00,120
Speaker 2: Like Oklahoma City is a byproduct of we'll just with

989
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:02,640
Speaker 2: the team here since y'all motherfuckers won't give us a

990
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:04,680
Speaker 2: new arena in Seattle. And it worked out good because

991
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 2: it was like, Yo, we found a fan base, their rabbit,

992
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 2: they love the team, blah blah blah. But it's like, Okay,

993
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:12,680
Speaker 2: well maybe they deserve a team there.

994
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:14,399
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. That's a that's a better

995
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:15,920
Speaker 3: way to find a market than the way they have

996
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:16,319
Speaker 3: it now.

997
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:18,959
Speaker 2: The way they have it now is like the TV

998
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:21,840
Speaker 2: markets because the TV money is so important, which is

999
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 2: why Rees says they're gonna have a team in New York.

1000
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:27,919
Speaker 3: Just because they want to have one in every TV market.

1001
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:30,360
Speaker 2: But maybe, you know, once you get the thirty two teams,

1002
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:32,960
Speaker 2: you know, maybe you're gonna have to start being in

1003
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:33,839
Speaker 2: Oklahoma City.

1004
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 5: You know, I would love if the rowing Oak Rapids

1005
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:38,279
Speaker 5: bandits became a thing.

1006
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:40,239
Speaker 1: Rolling.

1007
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:44,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, we needn't need that jersey, you know what I mean?

1008
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 1: My dad is smiling down that.

1009
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:53,800
Speaker 2: So what was the So you you're doing like sports

1010
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:58,120
Speaker 2: on uh like TV? I know you're like an ESPN corresponded, Yeah,

1011
00:44:58,600 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 2: and whatnot?

1012
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 3: Are you able to corporate what you were doing before

1013
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 3: with NBC Universe, like the funny elements of it into

1014
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:10,360
Speaker 3: your coverage on with ESPN?

1015
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:14,000
Speaker 5: It was all it was all pretty much comedic. So

1016
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 5: like they brought me in and were like, you know,

1017
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 5: it's funny. Because I mentioned earlier, I was like every

1018
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 5: move I made was not right in me trying to

1019
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:24,759
Speaker 5: follow the universe. And this was an example because I

1020
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 5: remember talking to my agent when they had offered me

1021
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 5: that job, and I was like, I'm gonna be the

1022
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 5: only comedian at ESPN, Like the world is my oyster,

1023
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:34,840
Speaker 5: like all.

1024
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 1: The jokes that I could possibly make. I didn't realize

1025
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:40,440
Speaker 1: there's a reason why you would be the only comedia

1026
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 1: because they ain't really rocking with you, like right right,

1027
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:47,760
Speaker 1: and let this be a lesson to everybody.

1028
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:52,239
Speaker 5: I'm like, just because you get hired, doesn't mean everybody

1029
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:53,800
Speaker 5: rocks with you, right, Okay.

1030
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:56,440
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, this is a blanket acceptance.

1031
00:45:56,719 --> 00:46:00,080
Speaker 5: You know, I've been I've been baptized into the to

1032
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:00,800
Speaker 5: the fraternity.

1033
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 1: Nah uh nah, That's not what that was about.

1034
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:03,920
Speaker 6: Now.

1035
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:07,120
Speaker 5: I definitely had my allies, and those are people that

1036
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:11,279
Speaker 5: I messed with heavy to this day. Jamel was there,

1037
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:16,360
Speaker 5: Mike Smith was there, Mike Hill was there, Mark Schlere,

1038
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 5: Sarah Spain. Like, I definitely had people that were that

1039
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 5: were really dope to me, like from from the where go.

1040
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:27,120
Speaker 1: But but yeah, when they brought me in, it was

1041
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:29,960
Speaker 1: really like comedic like because it was it was really

1042
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:30,600
Speaker 1: a lot of so.

1043
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:35,040
Speaker 5: Like the turn that I made and the stuff that

1044
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:38,200
Speaker 5: I'm doing now that came later, that kind of came

1045
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:40,880
Speaker 5: really after ESPN to be to be perfectly honest, and

1046
00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:46,480
Speaker 5: I brought up Jamel and Mike, but like watching them

1047
00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:49,360
Speaker 5: navigate and then and carry champions another one like watching

1048
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:53,040
Speaker 5: them how they moved and how they navigated. It was

1049
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:59,800
Speaker 5: really permission for me to exit kind of the spot

1050
00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 5: that that i'd occupied because I didn't.

1051
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:05,080
Speaker 1: Know that it was cool for me to not just

1052
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 1: be the funny guy, you know what I mean?

1053
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:09,840
Speaker 5: I had feelings about stuff, but unless I had a

1054
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:12,800
Speaker 5: joke that followed it, I didn't know if it was

1055
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:15,440
Speaker 5: okay for me to go there and with them, with

1056
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 5: them doing it that I was like, Okay, I can

1057
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:21,239
Speaker 5: actually maybe grow a little bit professionally but also as

1058
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 5: a person by by getting some of these other feelings

1059
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:25,080
Speaker 5: and thoughts that I have out.

1060
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 2: Did you ever get the hang out with Kenny Maine

1061
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:30,320
Speaker 2: because he's also like the funny guy.

1062
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:32,000
Speaker 1: There too, Yeah, Kenny.

1063
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:34,960
Speaker 5: I didn't spend as much time with Kenny because he

1064
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:37,360
Speaker 5: was on the road a lot, right and he's on

1065
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:39,759
Speaker 5: the West Coast a lot, so I didn't get to

1066
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:42,120
Speaker 5: spend a ton of time with him, But the time

1067
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:43,960
Speaker 5: that I did spend with him, he definitely is a fan.

1068
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 1: Trey Wingo is also really funny too.

1069
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:46,239
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1070
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:49,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, Trey Wingo is a real cool dude. Yeah Yeah, Kenny.

1071
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:51,600
Speaker 2: Made funny and shit man, he kind of about it. Man,

1072
00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:54,880
Speaker 2: as far as like that speaking up for shit, like

1073
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:57,200
Speaker 2: one of those dudes that you look at, you wouldn't

1074
00:47:57,200 --> 00:47:59,239
Speaker 2: think that because he's just like a red glass white man.

1075
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 3: But then like sometimes he'll DM me shit.

1076
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:04,640
Speaker 2: It'd be like, yeah, I see what you're saying about this,

1077
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:07,040
Speaker 2: and that's why black lives matter, and blah blah blah, Like.

1078
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:10,920
Speaker 3: Damn G you mean for real, Okay, that's what's up. Yeah, Okay.

1079
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:16,040
Speaker 3: Also at the time you were there that that's when.

1080
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:18,160
Speaker 2: I felt like ESPN was trying to make a transition

1081
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:25,560
Speaker 2: from straight sports coverage to personality and then also diversity.

1082
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:28,440
Speaker 2: But when you bring in diversity, you bring in a

1083
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:32,160
Speaker 2: diverse set of new opinions, right like, and it's and

1084
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 2: I think a lot of companies wanted diversity in front

1085
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:38,800
Speaker 2: of the camera. So like, here's a black person saying

1086
00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:42,360
Speaker 2: what white people normally say. But you know, obviously if

1087
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:44,319
Speaker 2: they hiring you for your personality, it's like, well, I'm

1088
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:46,719
Speaker 2: gonna tell you what restinks, you know what I mean,

1089
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:49,520
Speaker 2: So whatever any struggles with that or you know, like

1090
00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:51,640
Speaker 2: that pushback because I felt like a pushback cap and

1091
00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:54,040
Speaker 2: at the same time of like all of a sudden

1092
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:56,000
Speaker 2: it was why are you putting politics in my sport?

1093
00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:58,439
Speaker 2: And it's like, I'm just giving my opinion the same

1094
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:02,160
Speaker 2: way white people gave their opinion before I got over here,

1095
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:04,400
Speaker 2: and twelve more will be giving.

1096
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:05,239
Speaker 3: It after I get out of here.

1097
00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:09,799
Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, it was how much.

1098
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:12,000
Speaker 5: A lot of it was like how much heat are

1099
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:15,719
Speaker 5: you willing to take for the approach that you that

1100
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:19,279
Speaker 5: you want to take to this right? Because let's be honest, like,

1101
00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:22,880
Speaker 5: none of us really talk the way that we broadcast.

1102
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:25,120
Speaker 1: But that goes for white broadcasters too, right.

1103
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:28,080
Speaker 5: But I'm like, okay, but me being a black person

1104
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:31,920
Speaker 5: is do I have a different responsibility to quote keep

1105
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:33,239
Speaker 5: it real when I'm on the air?

1106
00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:36,000
Speaker 1: But then if I do that, am I not like

1107
00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:36,880
Speaker 1: making a mockery?

1108
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:39,319
Speaker 5: You can make black people man like, well, why can't

1109
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:40,520
Speaker 5: you just be like everybody else?

1110
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:43,600
Speaker 1: Why you gotta yell bou yet? You know what I mean.

1111
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:50,239
Speaker 1: So it's really there's no like, there's no like real

1112
00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:51,440
Speaker 1: right way to do it.

1113
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:54,120
Speaker 5: And as much as I could, I was fortunate because

1114
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 5: I was able to occupy a lot of spaces.

1115
00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:01,640
Speaker 1: Where people were really inviting and comfortable.

1116
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:04,120
Speaker 5: Obviously, not as many spaces as I wanted to be,

1117
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:06,640
Speaker 5: right like, I didn't get to do nearly as much

1118
00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:08,640
Speaker 5: as I wanted to do. But what I did do

1119
00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:13,040
Speaker 5: was I was able to find these places. Like I

1120
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:16,160
Speaker 5: mentioned Mike Hill and Mark Schlera. They were on the

1121
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:18,920
Speaker 5: radio at the time when I started at ESPN, and

1122
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:20,759
Speaker 5: they would bring me on and just.

1123
00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:22,680
Speaker 1: Give me a segment and to just do whatever and

1124
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:23,320
Speaker 1: say whatever.

1125
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:26,359
Speaker 5: And that was beautiful because that made me feel like real,

1126
00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:28,719
Speaker 5: like that made me feel accepted and that I could

1127
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:31,800
Speaker 5: just be be however however it was and obviously his

1128
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:34,400
Speaker 5: and hers, you know, later on down the road ended

1129
00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:36,360
Speaker 5: up being a space like that for me. And so

1130
00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:38,279
Speaker 5: I look back on it and I look like at

1131
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:42,759
Speaker 5: people like Stuart Scott, who I met, I man like.

1132
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:44,000
Speaker 1: I met Stuart Scott.

1133
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:49,760
Speaker 5: A couple times, and he didn't know me from Adam.

1134
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:52,480
Speaker 5: He didn't know like, he had no reason to know

1135
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:55,600
Speaker 5: me whatsoever. And he made a point to come over

1136
00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:57,279
Speaker 5: and talk to me, tell me where to get my

1137
00:50:57,360 --> 00:50:59,560
Speaker 5: hair cut, because let's be honest, that's not the easiest

1138
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:00,600
Speaker 5: thing to find in Connecticut.

1139
00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:03,319
Speaker 1: Yep, Okay, I don't know what it is about black barbershops.

1140
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:04,200
Speaker 1: We don't like the Internet.

1141
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:08,520
Speaker 4: No, they don't like blue pages, none of that.

1142
00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:13,279
Speaker 3: When I interviewed Jamail Hill, that was one of the

1143
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:14,920
Speaker 3: first day I asked. I was like, so, what's the

1144
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:17,680
Speaker 3: situation with the hair in Bristol, Connecticut?

1145
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:21,200
Speaker 2: Because I feel like that's gotta especially for a black woman,

1146
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:24,640
Speaker 2: that's one gotta be the most important thing if you're

1147
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:26,920
Speaker 2: gonna be on TV, because you know not, it's not

1148
00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:29,279
Speaker 2: just white people that's hard on black people's hair, it's

1149
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:30,600
Speaker 2: other black people that be eye.

1150
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:31,959
Speaker 3: I've seen what they did to Pam.

1151
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:34,560
Speaker 1: Okay, let's be honest.

1152
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:38,120
Speaker 5: Black people are are a different We have a different

1153
00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:38,799
Speaker 5: eye when it.

1154
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:41,680
Speaker 1: Comes to put this, put it this head, put it

1155
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:42,279
Speaker 1: this way. Rod.

1156
00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:47,839
Speaker 5: If I was on a black network, you wouldn't see

1157
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:49,520
Speaker 5: this right here. I wouldn't be walking around looking like

1158
00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:54,600
Speaker 5: Jamie Fox and the Solo. I'm only here and there right.

1159
00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:57,880
Speaker 5: I'm like, I can get away with it, right, And

1160
00:51:58,080 --> 00:52:00,000
Speaker 5: so I asked people, I'm like, hey, you see anything

1161
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:00,800
Speaker 5: roll my hairs?

1162
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:04,720
Speaker 1: Like, no, it looks fine. I was like, exactly, exactly exact.

1163
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:07,040
Speaker 1: Let me let me ask a black person.

1164
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:09,759
Speaker 3: That, right, Like, brother, you could tighten that up. Now see,

1165
00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:11,440
Speaker 3: I know some people like that.

1166
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:14,960
Speaker 4: I know somebody that can you know, re up your hair,

1167
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:16,560
Speaker 4: you know, get it tight and get it right.

1168
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:19,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, they used to get on Pam's wig every Sunday

1169
00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:24,880
Speaker 2: on Twitter with trend every every Sunday, and I was

1170
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:27,520
Speaker 2: like it made no sense. I'm like, one, it's a wig.

1171
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:29,600
Speaker 2: So y'all knew it was a wig. Why are y'all

1172
00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:33,600
Speaker 2: even bothering this woman? But they couldn't help themselves. So yeah,

1173
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:35,600
Speaker 2: the hair game definitely hit something.

1174
00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:38,120
Speaker 5: You got rough Man, and so it's like it's like

1175
00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:41,240
Speaker 5: a fraternity Michael Eves Seasonnther one. It's like a fraternity

1176
00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:43,880
Speaker 5: of black man in ESPN. We all like got to

1177
00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:44,640
Speaker 5: get together.

1178
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:47,720
Speaker 1: On that one. But anyways, I so I mentioned Stuart,

1179
00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:51,160
Speaker 1: like he he man, he was such a good dude.

1180
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:53,720
Speaker 1: I really give him a lot of credit.

1181
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:58,520
Speaker 5: And in general, I give the black people that were

1182
00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:03,239
Speaker 5: there a lot of credit because they seem to be

1183
00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:05,960
Speaker 5: much more understanding and accepting.

1184
00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:09,080
Speaker 1: Where I was coming from than a lot of other people.

1185
00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:12,840
Speaker 5: Obviously, you know, it's generational differences too, right, So the

1186
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:15,400
Speaker 5: younger folks, the people that are working on digital, the

1187
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:18,640
Speaker 5: people that working on social they they were also a

1188
00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:23,959
Speaker 5: lot cooler too, and so that you know, I walk

1189
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:27,879
Speaker 5: away from it with like some really solid, like really

1190
00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:35,240
Speaker 5: dope personal relationships, but like things that since obviously ESPN

1191
00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:38,080
Speaker 5: shifted and a lot of those people are gone from

1192
00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:41,359
Speaker 5: there now, but like seeing the ways in which they've

1193
00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:44,320
Speaker 5: been able to move throughout the culture, I'm like, Okay,

1194
00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:48,160
Speaker 5: so this like there is like there is a place

1195
00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:50,880
Speaker 5: for this, right you don't you don't necessarily have to.

1196
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:55,319
Speaker 1: Conform because you feel like this is the only thing

1197
00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:56,000
Speaker 1: that exists.

1198
00:53:56,719 --> 00:54:01,000
Speaker 5: And watching and you mentioned Jamel, like watching what what

1199
00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:03,840
Speaker 5: she's been able to accomplish since she left ESPN, with

1200
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:07,200
Speaker 5: the understanding that with a lot of the heat that

1201
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:10,200
Speaker 5: she was getting when she was there, there was a

1202
00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:14,239
Speaker 5: lot of I mean, she had I'm sure she had

1203
00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:17,880
Speaker 5: to have felt a lot of pressure that that we

1204
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:20,880
Speaker 5: were talking about, that old government job and that reliability

1205
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:22,560
Speaker 5: and getting that check. She had to have felt a

1206
00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:25,520
Speaker 5: lot of pressure in order to just hang on and

1207
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:28,960
Speaker 5: and and preserve and and and stay in the good

1208
00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:33,480
Speaker 5: light of this big machinery you know that is that

1209
00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:34,320
Speaker 5: is ESPN.

1210
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:37,319
Speaker 1: Uh And but she went her own way and bet

1211
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:39,000
Speaker 1: on herself, and I mean you can see with that,

1212
00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:39,759
Speaker 1: in a.

1213
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:44,680
Speaker 2: Way, ESPN legitimized the thing they were trying to get

1214
00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:47,439
Speaker 2: rid of. Like in a way, it's like you gave

1215
00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:50,279
Speaker 2: the platform to let us not this was possible, Like

1216
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:55,879
Speaker 2: when you hired Jamel, Mike Bomoni, you know, all these

1217
00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:59,160
Speaker 2: different people, uh, Howard Bryant, like all these people where

1218
00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:02,920
Speaker 2: you're like, oh wait, these opinions are now even more

1219
00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:08,440
Speaker 2: valid because they're on DESPN, and so once they're leaving,

1220
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:12,200
Speaker 2: we're looking for them now, like there's a void now right,

1221
00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:14,640
Speaker 2: We're like, okay, well where are the black opinions gonna

1222
00:55:14,680 --> 00:55:17,120
Speaker 2: come from? As opposed to us going all right, well

1223
00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:20,280
Speaker 2: we did that, no more black opinions, yeah, Dan Lebretard

1224
00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:20,600
Speaker 2: as well.

1225
00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:25,600
Speaker 3: Like so if anything they could, they just made everything.

1226
00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:27,920
Speaker 2: Brighter when they when they were like we don't know

1227
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:30,319
Speaker 2: if Jamel's gonna gonna come back and all this shit,

1228
00:55:30,320 --> 00:55:31,920
Speaker 2: It's like, okay, cool, because now I want to know

1229
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:34,360
Speaker 2: what she can do unbridled, Like what can she do

1230
00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:37,000
Speaker 2: without you feeling up tight about.

1231
00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:37,520
Speaker 3: The thing she's saying?

1232
00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:40,279
Speaker 2: And I imagine that that's inspirational for people within the

1233
00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:43,239
Speaker 2: industry that are dealing with the same thing, because up

1234
00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:46,080
Speaker 2: until that point, it was either like you know, let

1235
00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:48,879
Speaker 2: me hold it down uh, let me, let me hold

1236
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:50,319
Speaker 2: it down, because they shut you down when you speak

1237
00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:53,600
Speaker 2: from your heart shout the outcast. Or or you can

1238
00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:55,920
Speaker 2: do the opposite, which is go for a coon, you know,

1239
00:55:56,040 --> 00:55:59,239
Speaker 2: which is always an option. There's a lot of money

1240
00:55:59,280 --> 00:55:59,799
Speaker 2: out there for.

1241
00:55:59,880 --> 00:56:04,320
Speaker 4: The but they they tossed that money. They like, you

1242
00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:05,400
Speaker 4: want it, you got it.

1243
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:07,959
Speaker 2: You don't even really need to know sports at that point,

1244
00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:10,080
Speaker 2: Like you don't need to know no status to be like,

1245
00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:13,080
Speaker 2: I just think Lebron James should shut the hell up

1246
00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:14,040
Speaker 2: and stop kneeling.

1247
00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:16,360
Speaker 4: It's like they're like, he is all my money and

1248
00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:16,680
Speaker 4: they just.

1249
00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:20,800
Speaker 3: Renew his contract. Did you ever feel that pressure to

1250
00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:23,480
Speaker 3: have to choose? Did you ever? Were you ever tempted

1251
00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:25,120
Speaker 3: by the by the coon money?

1252
00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:30,560
Speaker 5: Well, first of all, we're all tempted by the cool money. Okay,

1253
00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:32,799
Speaker 5: just the money aspect of it. We're all tempted by

1254
00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:36,200
Speaker 5: the cool money. But before before I answered that, I

1255
00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:39,239
Speaker 5: do want to get both of y'all props, because I

1256
00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:42,600
Speaker 5: believe y'all are the reason why I discovered the song

1257
00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:43,759
Speaker 5: look at the cools.

1258
00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:52,600
Speaker 1: All the reason why so good. It's hilarious, but it's

1259
00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:56,799
Speaker 1: like an ear word, like yeah, wasn't myself completely out

1260
00:56:56,840 --> 00:56:57,560
Speaker 1: of context.

1261
00:56:58,640 --> 00:56:59,760
Speaker 3: It's a bop man.

1262
00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:04,400
Speaker 2: Like the production value on the production value on Look

1263
00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:06,880
Speaker 2: at the Coons is like professional level.

1264
00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:10,040
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, well you know what you're two stepping and

1265
00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:12,040
Speaker 4: everything over here.

1266
00:57:13,239 --> 00:57:15,759
Speaker 5: Hey, I'm doing good as long as I don't make

1267
00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:16,240
Speaker 5: the Look at.

1268
00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:19,440
Speaker 1: The Coons video, Yeah, while will make a look at

1269
00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:20,840
Speaker 1: Koon's video, I'm doing good.

1270
00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:27,800
Speaker 5: But rob Like, honestly, I thought about that before I

1271
00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:31,280
Speaker 5: started Get Up DC, right, because in between the time

1272
00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:35,840
Speaker 5: that I left ESPN i started Get Up DC, that

1273
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:40,000
Speaker 5: was twenty seventeen, but we were in a different place

1274
00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:40,920
Speaker 5: in twenty seventeen, but.

1275
00:57:41,160 --> 00:57:43,720
Speaker 1: Things were intensifying with regards to.

1276
00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:49,440
Speaker 5: Black Lives Matter right and a lot of the movements

1277
00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:52,600
Speaker 5: that we've seen since then, And that was something that

1278
00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:56,880
Speaker 5: piqued my interest because that was something that I had

1279
00:57:57,120 --> 00:57:59,960
Speaker 5: had gotten upset about and hadn't felt like it got

1280
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:02,200
Speaker 5: had enough attention for a long time. So before we

1281
00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:05,920
Speaker 5: start Get UPDC, they kind of gave me a blank

1282
00:58:06,560 --> 00:58:09,840
Speaker 5: check in a lot of way, not literally because it

1283
00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:12,920
Speaker 5: was definitely confined money, but they gave me a blank

1284
00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:16,000
Speaker 5: check when it came to what I want to say

1285
00:58:16,040 --> 00:58:19,720
Speaker 5: and how I want to say it. But the thing

1286
00:58:19,840 --> 00:58:22,120
Speaker 5: I thought about though, and I talked to my boy

1287
00:58:22,200 --> 00:58:24,640
Speaker 5: Brandon about this. Shout out to brand and Victor Dixon,

1288
00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:28,400
Speaker 5: is that none of us keep it one hundred. Like

1289
00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:30,600
Speaker 5: we all say, like, keep it a hundred. None of

1290
00:58:30,680 --> 00:58:31,440
Speaker 5: us keep it a hundred.

1291
00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:33,880
Speaker 1: Let's just be honest, nobody, because if we kept it

1292
00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:37,640
Speaker 1: a hundred, none of us would keep jobs, right, none

1293
00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:39,360
Speaker 1: of us will keep jobs. We kept a hundred. But

1294
00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:45,280
Speaker 1: how how real do you want to keep it? And

1295
00:58:47,280 --> 00:58:49,360
Speaker 1: where do you want it to go from there? Right?

1296
00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:52,640
Speaker 5: Because if you have a hundred, as how I really

1297
00:58:52,720 --> 00:58:56,600
Speaker 5: feel at all times, just completely unfiltered. Right, I'm like, well,

1298
00:58:56,680 --> 00:58:59,320
Speaker 5: if I go to if I come out too hot,

1299
00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:02,840
Speaker 5: like if I come out at eighty eighty five, right,

1300
00:59:03,440 --> 00:59:07,640
Speaker 5: a lot of people will take note of that, right,

1301
00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:09,160
Speaker 5: and I'll get a you know, it'll be a big

1302
00:59:09,240 --> 00:59:13,240
Speaker 5: splash off the top. But then people are going to

1303
00:59:13,280 --> 00:59:16,520
Speaker 5: assume that that's what it is. And so people, you

1304
00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:18,640
Speaker 5: might have been able to hit at sixty, you're gonna

1305
00:59:18,680 --> 00:59:21,240
Speaker 5: lose immediately if you come out at eighty five, right, Right,

1306
00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:25,439
Speaker 5: But I'm like, if you come out at sixty, that's

1307
00:59:25,480 --> 00:59:27,880
Speaker 5: still hotter than most, Like the average is probably like

1308
00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:30,040
Speaker 5: twenty fifteen, twenty thirty something like that. So I'm like,

1309
00:59:30,040 --> 00:59:32,040
Speaker 5: if you come out of sixty, that's still an improvement.

1310
00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:35,640
Speaker 5: You can maybe slide it up later mine. Right, you

1311
00:59:35,720 --> 00:59:38,600
Speaker 5: can hit seventy in a year, you can hit eighty

1312
00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:39,680
Speaker 5: and five years.

1313
00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:40,400
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

1314
00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:44,240
Speaker 5: So it's all just me trying to figure out like exactly,

1315
00:59:44,600 --> 00:59:47,040
Speaker 5: like how I like how real I want to keep it?

1316
00:59:47,720 --> 00:59:50,160
Speaker 5: And I don't want to say how real I want

1317
00:59:50,200 --> 00:59:55,640
Speaker 5: to keep it, but like how how directly I want

1318
00:59:55,680 --> 00:59:57,560
Speaker 5: to state how I feel. I put it that way

1319
00:59:57,720 --> 00:59:59,400
Speaker 5: because because I don't want to say I'm not keeping

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Speaker 5: it real. I am keep it in real.

1321
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Speaker 1: I just want to be a little bit more indirect

1322
01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:04,800
Speaker 1: and how I state my point.

1323
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I can see that because I think.

1324
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Speaker 2: How that's also why you get paid, you know what

1325
01:00:14,120 --> 01:00:16,480
Speaker 2: I mean, Like you get paid because of how you

1326
01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:19,000
Speaker 2: can say the thing you want to say, Like there's

1327
01:00:19,080 --> 01:00:22,880
Speaker 2: really no if you say it with no finesse and

1328
01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:25,720
Speaker 2: there's no skill, there's no art to it, then I

1329
01:00:25,800 --> 01:00:30,600
Speaker 2: think it's less likely to work, you know what I mean?

1330
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Speaker 6: Like, Yeah, there has to be like a balance there,

1331
01:00:33,120 --> 01:00:34,760
Speaker 6: and I think for a lot of people they don't.

1332
01:00:35,240 --> 01:00:38,480
Speaker 6: It's hard for them to toe that line, and a

1333
01:00:38,560 --> 01:00:40,200
Speaker 6: lot of times the people that want you to go

1334
01:00:40,240 --> 01:00:42,720
Speaker 6: to the extreme, like you say, you won't have a job, so.

1335
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Speaker 4: You have to have like a.

1336
01:00:45,400 --> 01:00:48,560
Speaker 2: There's like a thing I think now where, especially now

1337
01:00:48,560 --> 01:00:52,440
Speaker 2: that everybody has social media, there's like a pressure constantly

1338
01:00:52,520 --> 01:00:55,680
Speaker 2: to be like you need to say the most bombastic

1339
01:00:56,000 --> 01:00:57,800
Speaker 2: fucking like drop.

1340
01:00:57,720 --> 01:01:01,520
Speaker 3: The mic, walk off, home run level ship all the time.

1341
01:01:02,200 --> 01:01:05,600
Speaker 2: And what people don't realize is, like the reason you

1342
01:01:05,680 --> 01:01:07,360
Speaker 2: can say that on the Internet for most people is

1343
01:01:07,400 --> 01:01:09,760
Speaker 2: because nobody gets a fuck what you're talking about, right, So,

1344
01:01:10,320 --> 01:01:13,560
Speaker 2: so like you know, you could go on your social

1345
01:01:13,600 --> 01:01:15,880
Speaker 2: media and be like, man, fuck all the cops, Okay,

1346
01:01:15,960 --> 01:01:18,960
Speaker 2: they could suck my dick and anybody not with that?

1347
01:01:19,400 --> 01:01:20,760
Speaker 3: Can you know? You a coon?

1348
01:01:20,840 --> 01:01:23,200
Speaker 2: It's like you could say that on Twitter, you say

1349
01:01:23,280 --> 01:01:26,200
Speaker 2: that ship on Get Up DC. We're gonna be seeing

1350
01:01:26,280 --> 01:01:29,640
Speaker 2: you on Twitter later talking about God.

1351
01:01:29,960 --> 01:01:31,720
Speaker 3: God don't put nothing in your path.

1352
01:01:32,680 --> 01:01:38,040
Speaker 5: You're gonna see a picture of me with a box, right,

1353
01:01:40,520 --> 01:01:41,280
Speaker 5: We're gonna see.

1354
01:01:41,120 --> 01:01:43,560
Speaker 4: A picture of your notes with the apology on it.

1355
01:01:43,840 --> 01:01:46,600
Speaker 2: Right, Like I mean that's so I think that's another

1356
01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:49,480
Speaker 2: like level of pressure that people didn't necessarily have before.

1357
01:01:49,520 --> 01:01:52,480
Speaker 2: Because you know, people are under the illusion like a

1358
01:01:52,560 --> 01:01:55,360
Speaker 2: lot of shit that's common to say you can just

1359
01:01:55,480 --> 01:01:57,560
Speaker 2: say it. It's like, nah, you got The skill isn't

1360
01:01:57,560 --> 01:02:00,840
Speaker 2: explaining it, you know, like like this fin The skill

1361
01:02:01,000 --> 01:02:04,560
Speaker 2: is in all the people that can take an idea

1362
01:02:04,720 --> 01:02:07,120
Speaker 2: like defund the police and break it down in a

1363
01:02:07,200 --> 01:02:09,000
Speaker 2: ten minute segment so that by.

1364
01:02:08,920 --> 01:02:11,200
Speaker 3: The end you know what it means. The skill. The

1365
01:02:11,280 --> 01:02:12,440
Speaker 3: skill isn't just saying it.

1366
01:02:13,040 --> 01:02:16,040
Speaker 2: Then they be paying everybody or paying nobody, I guess,

1367
01:02:16,480 --> 01:02:22,480
Speaker 2: being honest, they just what So then what was the

1368
01:02:23,440 --> 01:02:26,560
Speaker 2: well you talked about Get Up DC, Like so I'm

1369
01:02:26,840 --> 01:02:31,160
Speaker 2: I'm a sport where ESPN it's like Bristol DC, Get

1370
01:02:31,240 --> 01:02:32,840
Speaker 2: up d C. I'm assumings d C.

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Speaker 1: What was that like.

1372
01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:38,680
Speaker 3: Transitioning to uh, you know, hosting this this show that

1373
01:02:38,920 --> 01:02:40,480
Speaker 3: early early in the morning.

1374
01:02:41,480 --> 01:02:44,440
Speaker 1: Well, first of all, I wasn't feeling that at all.

1375
01:02:44,720 --> 01:02:47,000
Speaker 5: If they weren't paying me, I wouldn't be up at

1376
01:02:47,000 --> 01:02:50,520
Speaker 5: this hour any day unless I was still up.

1377
01:02:51,000 --> 01:02:53,800
Speaker 1: Maybe if I was still up. And when they initially like.

1378
01:02:53,960 --> 01:02:56,600
Speaker 5: Tried to when we started negotiations, that was the thought

1379
01:02:56,720 --> 01:02:58,880
Speaker 5: was that I would just basically stay up through the

1380
01:02:59,000 --> 01:02:59,400
Speaker 5: nights or.

1381
01:02:59,400 --> 01:03:01,560
Speaker 1: Six because they nobody waking up that early in the morning.

1382
01:03:01,800 --> 01:03:04,040
Speaker 5: And I realized, like, when you travel and new stand

1383
01:03:04,120 --> 01:03:06,360
Speaker 5: up what you hate is when they asked you to

1384
01:03:06,400 --> 01:03:09,120
Speaker 5: do press in the morning, That's what you hate when

1385
01:03:09,120 --> 01:03:10,360
Speaker 5: you do on a show at night.

1386
01:03:10,640 --> 01:03:12,120
Speaker 1: And I'm like, hey, how about.

1387
01:03:11,920 --> 01:03:13,640
Speaker 5: You get up at five point thirty tomorrow morning to

1388
01:03:13,720 --> 01:03:15,919
Speaker 5: come to this radio station or come to the TV

1389
01:03:16,080 --> 01:03:17,520
Speaker 5: station and promote the show.

1390
01:03:17,640 --> 01:03:20,080
Speaker 1: And I was like, that's like, I couldn't think of

1391
01:03:20,160 --> 01:03:22,280
Speaker 1: a worse thing for me to be doing my time.

1392
01:03:23,320 --> 01:03:24,440
Speaker 1: And now I'm that guy that.

1393
01:03:24,520 --> 01:03:28,240
Speaker 5: Does that on the regular, which is beautiful that it

1394
01:03:28,280 --> 01:03:32,439
Speaker 5: comes full circle. But you know, I think that Get

1395
01:03:32,520 --> 01:03:36,960
Speaker 5: Up BC was like an opportunity to I mentioned full circle, actually,

1396
01:03:37,040 --> 01:03:39,240
Speaker 5: but it was like an opportunity to come back from

1397
01:03:39,280 --> 01:03:44,400
Speaker 5: because I'd end up way down this sports road, which

1398
01:03:44,400 --> 01:03:46,440
Speaker 5: has been great for me and been fruitful for me.

1399
01:03:47,640 --> 01:03:49,880
Speaker 5: But that's not where I started, right, Like, I didn't

1400
01:03:49,920 --> 01:03:53,040
Speaker 5: start my career with the idea that I just really

1401
01:03:53,160 --> 01:03:56,120
Speaker 5: need to get these sports jokes off right, or I

1402
01:03:56,200 --> 01:03:58,400
Speaker 5: really need to get you know, I really need to

1403
01:03:58,440 --> 01:04:02,040
Speaker 5: get these takes off on the on the Washington Wizard's

1404
01:04:02,160 --> 01:04:06,120
Speaker 5: digital history as the Bullets, like it was just me

1405
01:04:06,240 --> 01:04:09,880
Speaker 5: talking about just life in general and feelings that. So

1406
01:04:09,920 --> 01:04:12,280
Speaker 5: I'm like, this actually brings me back around to being

1407
01:04:12,320 --> 01:04:14,480
Speaker 5: able to talk about that, but also.

1408
01:04:14,400 --> 01:04:17,080
Speaker 1: Talk about it in a way where I don't feel

1409
01:04:17,120 --> 01:04:18,280
Speaker 1: as much pressure to.

1410
01:04:20,240 --> 01:04:22,440
Speaker 5: Set up punch, set up punch, you know, with jokes

1411
01:04:22,480 --> 01:04:25,080
Speaker 5: all the time, because I did feel a little bit

1412
01:04:25,080 --> 01:04:27,160
Speaker 5: of that of ESPN, which was self created, because I

1413
01:04:27,200 --> 01:04:31,400
Speaker 5: felt like, I'm around all these experts, so if I'm

1414
01:04:31,480 --> 01:04:35,680
Speaker 5: going to be here with them, I need to show

1415
01:04:35,760 --> 01:04:38,280
Speaker 5: the reason why I was brought in, which is to

1416
01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:38,840
Speaker 5: be funny.

1417
01:04:39,280 --> 01:04:39,800
Speaker 1: So I'm like, I.

1418
01:04:39,800 --> 01:04:43,000
Speaker 5: Gotta be funny, but I don't feel that way doing

1419
01:04:43,040 --> 01:04:46,160
Speaker 5: Get Up DC. And I give a lot of credit

1420
01:04:46,200 --> 01:04:49,280
Speaker 5: to Tegna and to WSA nine because they really allowed

1421
01:04:50,440 --> 01:04:53,920
Speaker 5: the show and allowed me to focus and talk about

1422
01:04:53,920 --> 01:04:55,360
Speaker 5: a lot of things that we want to talk about

1423
01:04:55,360 --> 01:04:57,560
Speaker 5: and kind of make it in our own image. And

1424
01:04:57,880 --> 01:05:01,160
Speaker 5: it just so happens that the debuted at a time

1425
01:05:01,320 --> 01:05:04,560
Speaker 5: when kind of the world shifted towards a lot of

1426
01:05:04,600 --> 01:05:06,520
Speaker 5: those issues that we wanted to cover in the first place,

1427
01:05:06,520 --> 01:05:08,000
Speaker 5: so we were kind of well positioned to do that.

1428
01:05:08,600 --> 01:05:10,880
Speaker 2: And how did you how did you meet Randolph in

1429
01:05:10,920 --> 01:05:12,960
Speaker 2: the course of this, because I know that's when y'all

1430
01:05:13,040 --> 01:05:13,920
Speaker 2: started working together.

1431
01:05:14,440 --> 01:05:15,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I met Randolph.

1432
01:05:16,760 --> 01:05:21,440
Speaker 5: So Randolph actually we worked together at the Arlington draft

1433
01:05:21,520 --> 01:05:22,600
Speaker 5: House way.

1434
01:05:22,680 --> 01:05:24,360
Speaker 1: Way way back in the day.

1435
01:05:26,440 --> 01:05:29,560
Speaker 5: It had to have been like twenty eleven, maybe twenty twelve,

1436
01:05:30,360 --> 01:05:35,160
Speaker 5: and so we've known each other since then. And in

1437
01:05:35,280 --> 01:05:38,440
Speaker 5: the meantime, after I came back here, I know that

1438
01:05:38,480 --> 01:05:41,160
Speaker 5: he was running his show at the DC draft House

1439
01:05:41,200 --> 01:05:43,080
Speaker 5: and that was like the place to go, you know,

1440
01:05:43,360 --> 01:05:46,280
Speaker 5: get little sets in and you know, network and politics

1441
01:05:46,320 --> 01:05:49,680
Speaker 5: and whatnot. So we kind of re established our relationship there.

1442
01:05:50,240 --> 01:05:54,400
Speaker 5: So when they were looking for people that can write, yeah,

1443
01:05:54,400 --> 01:05:56,560
Speaker 5: I was singing people that I'm of similar minds as

1444
01:05:57,800 --> 01:05:59,720
Speaker 5: and he was one of the guys that came to mind.

1445
01:05:59,760 --> 01:06:01,680
Speaker 5: So definitely wanted to bring him in. And he's been

1446
01:06:02,240 --> 01:06:05,280
Speaker 5: he's been really dope for the show. And you know,

1447
01:06:05,960 --> 01:06:10,200
Speaker 5: Randolph is interesting because a lot of the things that

1448
01:06:10,280 --> 01:06:13,960
Speaker 5: he tackles on the show is like the hardest, deepest

1449
01:06:13,960 --> 01:06:17,720
Speaker 5: stuff that we're covering, right, So if you take a

1450
01:06:17,840 --> 01:06:20,919
Speaker 5: macro view of that, you know, I've seen people say

1451
01:06:21,000 --> 01:06:23,040
Speaker 5: on social media like it's hard to see these videos

1452
01:06:23,080 --> 01:06:25,160
Speaker 5: every day, or it's hard to look at these stories

1453
01:06:25,200 --> 01:06:27,880
Speaker 5: every day. It's hard to process his news every day. Well,

1454
01:06:27,960 --> 01:06:30,440
Speaker 5: Randolph was like, literally that was his job was to

1455
01:06:30,560 --> 01:06:35,200
Speaker 5: do that every day, you know. And he's an interesting

1456
01:06:35,240 --> 01:06:37,240
Speaker 5: guy to talk to in terms of how to handle

1457
01:06:37,320 --> 01:06:40,760
Speaker 5: that emotionally and how to process all that and keep

1458
01:06:40,800 --> 01:06:41,640
Speaker 5: your mental straight.

1459
01:06:42,000 --> 01:06:43,960
Speaker 1: As Marshawn Lynch will say, Yeah, so.

1460
01:06:45,000 --> 01:06:46,920
Speaker 3: Now that's definitely.

1461
01:06:46,960 --> 01:06:47,080
Speaker 1: Man.

1462
01:06:47,120 --> 01:06:49,120
Speaker 2: We talked all the time, and that's definitely one of

1463
01:06:49,200 --> 01:06:53,440
Speaker 2: the things that that's that's that's interesting about Randolph is

1464
01:06:53,560 --> 01:06:56,520
Speaker 2: like he's a funny person, he's a comedian by trade,

1465
01:06:56,600 --> 01:06:59,920
Speaker 2: all that stuff, but at the same time, he's capable

1466
01:06:59,920 --> 01:07:03,320
Speaker 2: of processing shit without trying to turn everything into the joke.

1467
01:07:03,440 --> 01:07:08,000
Speaker 2: Like sometimes sometimes the thing is it's like we do

1468
01:07:08,120 --> 01:07:09,439
Speaker 2: like we do on the show, we do a seven

1469
01:07:09,520 --> 01:07:13,200
Speaker 2: called Fucking with Black People, and it's about different racist

1470
01:07:13,200 --> 01:07:16,280
Speaker 2: shit that happens and how it makes us feel. But

1471
01:07:17,360 --> 01:07:20,480
Speaker 2: we're we're laughing at the absurdity of it, but we're

1472
01:07:20,520 --> 01:07:22,520
Speaker 2: not really laughing at the fact that it.

1473
01:07:22,640 --> 01:07:23,520
Speaker 3: Happened, you know what I mean.

1474
01:07:23,680 --> 01:07:27,400
Speaker 2: So it's like, you know, like, yeah, it's it's ironic,

1475
01:07:27,600 --> 01:07:29,600
Speaker 2: it's absurd, it's ridiculous.

1476
01:07:29,760 --> 01:07:31,439
Speaker 3: Because racism is all those things.

1477
01:07:31,720 --> 01:07:35,560
Speaker 2: It's also extremely dangerous but yeah, rend's one of those

1478
01:07:35,560 --> 01:07:38,120
Speaker 2: people that can process it at that level where he's like, man,

1479
01:07:38,240 --> 01:07:40,800
Speaker 2: this is why the shit ain't funny, and if you

1480
01:07:40,880 --> 01:07:43,880
Speaker 2: need them talking points, he got you. And then everyone

1481
01:07:43,920 --> 01:07:45,520
Speaker 2: so while here hit you with something like and then

1482
01:07:45,600 --> 01:07:47,240
Speaker 2: this is why it is funny. And you're like, and

1483
01:07:47,440 --> 01:07:48,600
Speaker 2: that's true as well, you know.

1484
01:07:48,600 --> 01:07:51,040
Speaker 5: What I mean, next time you come on and you

1485
01:07:51,120 --> 01:07:52,800
Speaker 5: gotta come on to can next time you come on

1486
01:07:52,880 --> 01:07:54,840
Speaker 5: the radio show. I do a thing called racist of

1487
01:07:54,920 --> 01:07:57,680
Speaker 5: the Week. And I only say of the week because

1488
01:07:57,680 --> 01:07:58,400
Speaker 5: it sounds cute.

1489
01:07:58,400 --> 01:07:59,800
Speaker 1: I just do it whenever I feel like it.

1490
01:08:02,040 --> 01:08:04,040
Speaker 5: But it's kind of similar, right, because like some of

1491
01:08:04,080 --> 01:08:06,760
Speaker 5: the stuff we cover is like it's like wild and

1492
01:08:06,920 --> 01:08:09,320
Speaker 5: like really out of pocket. But I do want to

1493
01:08:09,360 --> 01:08:11,800
Speaker 5: shine a light of shame and disgrace on these people.

1494
01:08:11,920 --> 01:08:13,720
Speaker 5: And then you know, some of it is like the

1495
01:08:13,840 --> 01:08:16,360
Speaker 5: lady that was talking about band aids and she will

1496
01:08:16,439 --> 01:08:18,719
Speaker 5: not You saw the ladies talking about band aids insult

1497
01:08:18,760 --> 01:08:21,600
Speaker 5: to injury, and we will not do that in my classroom.

1498
01:08:24,000 --> 01:08:26,120
Speaker 1: She's definitely not the racist of the week, but the

1499
01:08:26,240 --> 01:08:28,559
Speaker 1: band aid industry rights.

1500
01:08:32,200 --> 01:08:35,479
Speaker 2: And then now you're transitioning from get Up DC to

1501
01:08:35,560 --> 01:08:39,960
Speaker 2: something new that's coming out, is it like, uh, in

1502
01:08:40,040 --> 01:08:43,479
Speaker 2: the planning stages, are y'all like writing workshop and stuff.

1503
01:08:43,560 --> 01:08:44,719
Speaker 3: Now, like, how's that work.

1504
01:08:44,640 --> 01:08:45,040
Speaker 1: Going for you?

1505
01:08:46,120 --> 01:08:49,600
Speaker 5: It's you know what, It's like a lot closer to

1506
01:08:50,800 --> 01:08:56,880
Speaker 5: my ideal outlet for myself than anything that I've done.

1507
01:08:57,040 --> 01:08:58,880
Speaker 5: And that's one of the reasons why it's taking so

1508
01:08:59,000 --> 01:09:00,960
Speaker 5: long to get it off the grind, because if I

1509
01:09:01,080 --> 01:09:03,200
Speaker 5: was just like, Okay, I'll host the show that's kind

1510
01:09:03,240 --> 01:09:04,240
Speaker 5: of like what you had on.

1511
01:09:06,240 --> 01:09:08,519
Speaker 1: That, that would have been out, you know. But We've

1512
01:09:08,560 --> 01:09:11,000
Speaker 1: been trying a lot of different segments. I'm trying to

1513
01:09:11,200 --> 01:09:14,320
Speaker 1: use like as many of the.

1514
01:09:14,800 --> 01:09:17,600
Speaker 5: Comedians around like we got ranmed Off, we got my

1515
01:09:17,680 --> 01:09:20,479
Speaker 5: boy Leon Scott who's involved in it. But I'm trying

1516
01:09:20,520 --> 01:09:23,040
Speaker 5: to use as many other comedians as I can around here,

1517
01:09:23,680 --> 01:09:26,280
Speaker 5: just just for it to be I wanted to be

1518
01:09:26,600 --> 01:09:30,840
Speaker 5: like a platform for everybody, for not just comedians either,

1519
01:09:31,000 --> 01:09:33,280
Speaker 5: just but a platform for artists around here to be

1520
01:09:33,360 --> 01:09:37,680
Speaker 5: able to to get their their content out much like

1521
01:09:37,760 --> 01:09:41,040
Speaker 5: you use your podcast and uh. And and also it's

1522
01:09:41,120 --> 01:09:44,519
Speaker 5: just it's something that's fun for me, right, just just

1523
01:09:44,600 --> 01:09:46,519
Speaker 5: to have those people around me and to get back

1524
01:09:46,560 --> 01:09:48,840
Speaker 5: into that spirit. I don't know if I want to

1525
01:09:48,880 --> 01:09:50,840
Speaker 5: be like running the streets the way that I was.

1526
01:09:53,280 --> 01:09:55,640
Speaker 5: Maybe it's me having you know, bringing them to me.

1527
01:09:55,840 --> 01:09:59,599
Speaker 5: But we're gonna definitely keep like the final thought, which

1528
01:09:59,600 --> 01:10:01,200
Speaker 5: is like the momentary party get UBC.

1529
01:10:01,400 --> 01:10:02,639
Speaker 1: That's that's definitely being kept.

1530
01:10:03,640 --> 01:10:05,720
Speaker 5: But the rest of the show is going to be

1531
01:10:06,240 --> 01:10:09,280
Speaker 5: you know, a little bit more moderated discussions, and so

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Speaker 5: I'm looking forward to it. I haven't seen anything like

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01:10:11,800 --> 01:10:14,400
Speaker 5: that on local TV, so getting you know, shout out

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01:10:14,400 --> 01:10:15,360
Speaker 5: to Technive for giving us.

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01:10:15,320 --> 01:10:15,960
Speaker 1: A chance to do it.

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01:10:16,040 --> 01:10:18,920
Speaker 5: But it's just you know, to what we were talking

1537
01:10:18,920 --> 01:10:23,000
Speaker 5: about earlier. I don't know that I ever would have

1538
01:10:23,160 --> 01:10:25,920
Speaker 5: said this is what I want to do. You know,

1539
01:10:26,040 --> 01:10:29,400
Speaker 5: this is where I grew up and for to say,

1540
01:10:29,680 --> 01:10:32,240
Speaker 5: you know, I want to do a show on you know,

1541
01:10:32,560 --> 01:10:35,560
Speaker 5: on Channel nine, the CBS affiliate here and have it

1542
01:10:35,720 --> 01:10:37,560
Speaker 5: kind of in my own vision, I probably wouldn't have

1543
01:10:37,680 --> 01:10:38,960
Speaker 5: thought that that was something I could do.

1544
01:10:39,640 --> 01:10:42,280
Speaker 1: But you know, that's that's that's how that's how it

1545
01:10:42,360 --> 01:10:43,040
Speaker 1: goes man And.

1546
01:10:43,080 --> 01:10:45,560
Speaker 2: A lot of times because you don't see people doing it,

1547
01:10:45,920 --> 01:10:49,400
Speaker 2: you knowfrehead and a lot of times it's also why

1548
01:10:49,479 --> 01:10:51,439
Speaker 2: they don't take a chance on posts because like, well

1549
01:10:51,479 --> 01:10:53,160
Speaker 2: we never seen somebody do this, you know.

1550
01:10:54,120 --> 01:10:56,840
Speaker 3: I was listening to something. I can't remember exactly what

1551
01:10:56,920 --> 01:10:57,839
Speaker 3: it was, but it was someone.

1552
01:10:57,760 --> 01:11:00,920
Speaker 2: Talking about, like, you know, being a creative whatever, and

1553
01:11:01,040 --> 01:11:03,919
Speaker 2: it was like, yeah, you know, because this hadn't existed,

1554
01:11:04,040 --> 01:11:06,439
Speaker 2: so we hadn't thought about doing it this way. And

1555
01:11:06,479 --> 01:11:08,240
Speaker 2: then they told us it wouldn't work and they didn't

1556
01:11:08,240 --> 01:11:09,760
Speaker 2: want to invest in it, and da da da da.

1557
01:11:10,080 --> 01:11:12,200
Speaker 2: And I was like, but isn't that the thing about innovation.

1558
01:11:12,600 --> 01:11:16,040
Speaker 2: Everything wouldn't work until it does, right, Like yeah, and

1559
01:11:16,960 --> 01:11:17,240
Speaker 2: you have.

1560
01:11:17,400 --> 01:11:19,200
Speaker 4: To allow it to flesh out.

1561
01:11:19,280 --> 01:11:24,120
Speaker 6: And something that's amazing to me is, particularly when it

1562
01:11:24,240 --> 01:11:27,479
Speaker 6: comes to marginalize people shit, our shit is the ones

1563
01:11:28,000 --> 01:11:30,280
Speaker 6: that they never want to throw the dollars at, right,

1564
01:11:30,520 --> 01:11:32,800
Speaker 6: you know, when we want to think outside of the box,

1565
01:11:33,400 --> 01:11:35,040
Speaker 6: but we want to do that different thing.

1566
01:11:34,960 --> 01:11:36,800
Speaker 1: That never before seen thing.

1567
01:11:37,520 --> 01:11:40,720
Speaker 6: It's very hard and something that Roger said a while ago,

1568
01:11:40,800 --> 01:11:43,200
Speaker 6: and I will forever believe this, a lot of times

1569
01:11:43,240 --> 01:11:45,400
Speaker 6: people never want to throw money at you until you

1570
01:11:45,479 --> 01:11:47,000
Speaker 6: get to the point that you don't need the money,

1571
01:11:47,280 --> 01:11:49,120
Speaker 6: once you get to the point that you have literally

1572
01:11:49,240 --> 01:11:52,080
Speaker 6: built your own foundation, so basically there it's more of

1573
01:11:52,120 --> 01:11:53,200
Speaker 6: an investment to them.

1574
01:11:53,280 --> 01:11:55,160
Speaker 4: Than them actually doing it from the ground up.

1575
01:11:55,280 --> 01:11:56,320
Speaker 3: Well it's not just the money.

1576
01:11:56,360 --> 01:11:59,479
Speaker 2: I mean just people don't even like to really offer

1577
01:11:59,640 --> 01:12:02,240
Speaker 2: help until you don't need it, you know what i mean.

1578
01:12:02,439 --> 01:12:05,120
Speaker 2: Like like every you know, every week or so, we

1579
01:12:05,200 --> 01:12:08,599
Speaker 2: get some type of email that's normally a form letter

1580
01:12:09,240 --> 01:12:12,360
Speaker 2: that's framed in the idea that it's helping us. When

1581
01:12:12,600 --> 01:12:14,479
Speaker 2: I'm when you read into it and you're like, this

1582
01:12:14,680 --> 01:12:17,200
Speaker 2: is me doing some shit for you. Don't like, like,

1583
01:12:17,640 --> 01:12:20,200
Speaker 2: I'm not stupid, motherfucker, Like, we want to offer.

1584
01:12:20,080 --> 01:12:24,320
Speaker 3: You the opportunity to interview this person, this blogger with

1585
01:12:24,439 --> 01:12:27,519
Speaker 3: three followers, and they want they can bring so much

1586
01:12:27,600 --> 01:12:31,240
Speaker 3: to your product or show or slash whatever the fuck

1587
01:12:31,280 --> 01:12:33,800
Speaker 3: we didn't listen to, Like I'm just like dog that.

1588
01:12:34,760 --> 01:12:37,280
Speaker 3: Like what's funny is when at the time when I

1589
01:12:37,400 --> 01:12:39,559
Speaker 3: may have needed that, well, I'll be like, man, we'll

1590
01:12:39,600 --> 01:12:42,000
Speaker 3: take anybody as a guest that motherfucker would have never

1591
01:12:42,080 --> 01:12:46,679
Speaker 3: emailed me. It's always like right after someone thinks you own,

1592
01:12:47,479 --> 01:12:48,759
Speaker 3: they're like, even.

1593
01:12:48,600 --> 01:12:50,000
Speaker 4: If it's an illusion, they don't care.

1594
01:12:50,040 --> 01:12:52,880
Speaker 6: They was like I heard or you associated with, So

1595
01:12:53,080 --> 01:12:56,360
Speaker 6: I'm assuming that you watch somebody, so I'm coming to

1596
01:12:56,400 --> 01:12:56,800
Speaker 6: you for help.

1597
01:12:56,840 --> 01:12:59,400
Speaker 2: It's like what we said where it's like, uh, he

1598
01:12:59,600 --> 01:13:01,840
Speaker 2: likes to be So it's like they start trying to

1599
01:13:01,920 --> 01:13:03,320
Speaker 2: sell you shit and you're like, wait.

1600
01:13:03,160 --> 01:13:04,760
Speaker 3: A minute, wait a minute.

1601
01:13:05,840 --> 01:13:07,680
Speaker 1: Oh this looks good. Right, it's good.

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01:13:07,800 --> 01:13:12,680
Speaker 5: Let me google this first their account right, it no

1603
01:13:12,840 --> 01:13:13,679
Speaker 5: longer exists.

1604
01:13:14,800 --> 01:13:21,000
Speaker 6: How has COVID calls you the transition in your career.

1605
01:13:20,720 --> 01:13:25,400
Speaker 4: And what like changes have you made with uh thinking

1606
01:13:25,400 --> 01:13:26,360
Speaker 4: about COVID in mind?

1607
01:13:27,240 --> 01:13:30,439
Speaker 1: Uh, you know what I'm at two percent. Let me

1608
01:13:30,520 --> 01:13:31,080
Speaker 1: go get a charger.

1609
01:13:31,200 --> 01:13:33,880
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, no problem water two. I'm gonna go ahead,

1610
01:13:33,920 --> 01:13:36,479
Speaker 2: paulses real quick. All right, So can you were asking

1611
01:13:36,520 --> 01:13:41,200
Speaker 2: about coronavirus and how it changed how Reesa moves in

1612
01:13:41,280 --> 01:13:41,960
Speaker 2: the in the game.

1613
01:13:42,240 --> 01:13:46,280
Speaker 6: Yes, because it rocked the world so much, and you know,

1614
01:13:47,000 --> 01:13:49,120
Speaker 6: you do sports and comedy and all of a sudden

1615
01:13:49,520 --> 01:13:51,760
Speaker 6: sports not happening and sh it ain't funny no more,

1616
01:13:51,920 --> 01:13:54,760
Speaker 6: and and everybody stressed out, like they know what it

1617
01:13:54,840 --> 01:13:58,040
Speaker 6: had to be a transition in your career or or

1618
01:13:58,120 --> 01:13:58,840
Speaker 6: your perspective.

1619
01:14:00,040 --> 01:14:01,840
Speaker 1: Calls me to get married because I wasn't trust to

1620
01:14:01,880 --> 01:14:07,160
Speaker 1: meet new people. Number one, So there's that You didn't

1621
01:14:07,200 --> 01:14:08,040
Speaker 1: tell her that, did you?

1622
01:14:08,120 --> 01:14:10,360
Speaker 3: You didn't know those were that way. You didn't. You

1623
01:14:10,439 --> 01:14:12,040
Speaker 3: didn't propose like Martin proposed.

1624
01:14:14,840 --> 01:14:18,120
Speaker 5: You know what, It's funny because we spent so much

1625
01:14:18,240 --> 01:14:22,280
Speaker 5: time during COVID judging these kids for risking.

1626
01:14:22,080 --> 01:14:24,559
Speaker 1: It all at a bow Wow show, no risking at

1627
01:14:24,560 --> 01:14:25,120
Speaker 1: all to see.

1628
01:14:25,000 --> 01:14:27,960
Speaker 5: The change smokers and all that, And I was like, honestly, like,

1629
01:14:28,520 --> 01:14:32,040
Speaker 5: I'm like, if I was in my twenties and I

1630
01:14:32,240 --> 01:14:35,519
Speaker 5: was single and I live with like a roommate that

1631
01:14:35,640 --> 01:14:39,000
Speaker 5: I hated, and I was by myself, I might risk

1632
01:14:39,080 --> 01:14:41,680
Speaker 5: it all to go see who's who's going to see

1633
01:14:41,720 --> 01:14:44,519
Speaker 5: bow Wow. Like I'm just saying, like I might gonna

1634
01:14:44,560 --> 01:14:48,200
Speaker 5: as before I judge them, let me understand that I'm in.

1635
01:14:48,200 --> 01:14:52,360
Speaker 1: A privileged position right right now, like to feel comfortable.

1636
01:14:53,040 --> 01:14:57,400
Speaker 5: Well, COVID changed so much, and in terms of the

1637
01:14:57,520 --> 01:15:02,479
Speaker 5: sports side of things, I feel like sports was really

1638
01:15:02,640 --> 01:15:06,439
Speaker 5: replaced by politics, right because that's what we were covering

1639
01:15:07,840 --> 01:15:11,360
Speaker 5: that that's that's what occupied that that time was was

1640
01:15:11,479 --> 01:15:18,720
Speaker 5: Trump and uh Trump, COVID and and George Floyd in

1641
01:15:18,840 --> 01:15:21,360
Speaker 5: protests Like that's kind of like we all were on

1642
01:15:21,439 --> 01:15:24,200
Speaker 5: social media like that's what took the place of that

1643
01:15:24,320 --> 01:15:28,040
Speaker 5: became our sport. Yeah, you know, grew versus read became

1644
01:15:28,080 --> 01:15:33,200
Speaker 5: our sport. So I definitely threw myself, like like all

1645
01:15:33,240 --> 01:15:34,720
Speaker 5: of us did, into that.

1646
01:15:34,920 --> 01:15:37,040
Speaker 1: Part of it was that I had to, and part

1647
01:15:37,080 --> 01:15:38,040
Speaker 1: of it was that I wanted to.

1648
01:15:38,720 --> 01:15:40,479
Speaker 5: And then being here in DC, we're like in the

1649
01:15:40,560 --> 01:15:42,360
Speaker 5: midst of like we're in the midst of all that.

1650
01:15:42,439 --> 01:15:46,640
Speaker 5: I remember one night I woke up before Get Up

1651
01:15:46,720 --> 01:15:48,680
Speaker 5: DC and I came out here like I normally do,

1652
01:15:49,360 --> 01:15:51,479
Speaker 5: and I'm preparing for the show, and I see on

1653
01:15:51,600 --> 01:15:55,840
Speaker 5: Twitter that my neighborhood is trending, and I'm like, why

1654
01:15:56,040 --> 01:15:59,760
Speaker 5: is my neighborhood trending? Because they had been a disturbance

1655
01:16:00,840 --> 01:16:03,600
Speaker 5: with some cops chasing some protesters and with.

1656
01:16:03,720 --> 01:16:04,439
Speaker 1: Some tear gas.

1657
01:16:04,920 --> 01:16:07,519
Speaker 5: You remember that guy, the guy let them run into

1658
01:16:07,560 --> 01:16:10,720
Speaker 5: his house and you know that story. So that's like

1659
01:16:11,000 --> 01:16:11,680
Speaker 5: very close to me.

1660
01:16:12,320 --> 01:16:15,519
Speaker 1: And so I came out here and I'm reading up

1661
01:16:15,560 --> 01:16:18,080
Speaker 1: on all that, and it's so close. I literally like

1662
01:16:18,160 --> 01:16:20,560
Speaker 1: I'm reading it and I'm looking, I'm like, do I

1663
01:16:20,680 --> 01:16:22,320
Speaker 1: see Am I cool?

1664
01:16:25,680 --> 01:16:27,640
Speaker 5: They don't think I'm a protester that just ran up

1665
01:16:27,680 --> 01:16:29,919
Speaker 5: on somebody the podcast?

1666
01:16:30,000 --> 01:16:30,320
Speaker 3: Get them?

1667
01:16:31,439 --> 01:16:32,760
Speaker 1: I need to have my papers with.

1668
01:16:32,880 --> 01:16:33,360
Speaker 5: Me up here.

1669
01:16:35,000 --> 01:16:37,000
Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean it was it was like it

1670
01:16:37,160 --> 01:16:39,280
Speaker 1: was like really, really real when it came to.

1671
01:16:39,320 --> 01:16:43,639
Speaker 5: All of that, you know, in terms of of sports,

1672
01:16:43,680 --> 01:16:47,360
Speaker 5: in terms of comedy wise, you know, I look at

1673
01:16:47,479 --> 01:16:52,120
Speaker 5: people that have been able to transition and do stuff

1674
01:16:52,160 --> 01:16:53,120
Speaker 5: in the digital space.

1675
01:16:54,680 --> 01:16:58,360
Speaker 1: I've dabbled. You mentioned the barbershop, like I've dabbled. I've

1676
01:16:58,400 --> 01:16:59,880
Speaker 1: done a couple of things here and there. I started

1677
01:17:00,000 --> 01:17:02,360
Speaker 1: YouTube page and drop videos on YouTube, and I'm doing

1678
01:17:02,400 --> 01:17:03,320
Speaker 1: social media and stuff.

1679
01:17:03,880 --> 01:17:08,280
Speaker 5: But I do think that it has created a space

1680
01:17:08,360 --> 01:17:10,920
Speaker 5: where a lot of very creative people can figure out

1681
01:17:11,000 --> 01:17:12,720
Speaker 5: unique ways to reach their audiences.

1682
01:17:13,520 --> 01:17:16,879
Speaker 1: And I can tell you this, that is not my strength.

1683
01:17:17,520 --> 01:17:18,479
Speaker 1: That is not my strength.

1684
01:17:18,479 --> 01:17:19,320
Speaker 4: It's a different muscle.

1685
01:17:19,960 --> 01:17:23,519
Speaker 1: It's a different muscle. I have a lot of I

1686
01:17:23,600 --> 01:17:25,439
Speaker 1: have a lot of I had a lot of pros,

1687
01:17:26,240 --> 01:17:27,880
Speaker 1: but in my cons.

1688
01:17:27,600 --> 01:17:31,639
Speaker 5: When it comes to like business acumen and flipping stuff

1689
01:17:31,760 --> 01:17:33,080
Speaker 5: and reaching people.

1690
01:17:32,920 --> 01:17:35,160
Speaker 1: And marketing and all that kind of stuff all in

1691
01:17:35,240 --> 01:17:36,240
Speaker 1: the cons category.

1692
01:17:36,800 --> 01:17:41,439
Speaker 5: So it forced me to confront that and realize that,

1693
01:17:41,680 --> 01:17:47,000
Speaker 5: you know, I probably need to make some changes and

1694
01:17:47,160 --> 01:17:49,439
Speaker 5: how I'm moving so that I'm working smarter and that

1695
01:17:49,600 --> 01:17:54,040
Speaker 5: harder and getting with what the new reality is of

1696
01:17:54,720 --> 01:17:57,160
Speaker 5: how we're going to reach people, you know, how we're

1697
01:17:57,160 --> 01:17:58,880
Speaker 5: going to reach consumers. I look at what you guys

1698
01:17:58,920 --> 01:18:01,519
Speaker 5: have been able to do, Karen, you mentioned it's been

1699
01:18:01,560 --> 01:18:04,880
Speaker 5: eleven years. You guys have put in a ton of work,

1700
01:18:05,520 --> 01:18:09,280
Speaker 5: but for you guys to find not only your audience,

1701
01:18:09,360 --> 01:18:12,400
Speaker 5: but like also find unique ways to reach the audience,

1702
01:18:12,479 --> 01:18:15,080
Speaker 5: whether it be this crowdcast right now that people are watching,

1703
01:18:16,680 --> 01:18:18,360
Speaker 5: going over to Spotify all that stuff.

1704
01:18:18,439 --> 01:18:22,439
Speaker 1: Like, I really look and marvel at people that have been.

1705
01:18:23,880 --> 01:18:28,120
Speaker 5: Really smart and forward thinking in that regard because in

1706
01:18:28,200 --> 01:18:30,760
Speaker 5: a lot of ways, stand up Like that's how I

1707
01:18:30,920 --> 01:18:33,840
Speaker 5: started with stand up, but the lines have been so

1708
01:18:34,080 --> 01:18:37,559
Speaker 5: blurred between traditional.

1709
01:18:37,120 --> 01:18:39,800
Speaker 1: Stand up and then you have Internet. You know, people

1710
01:18:39,880 --> 01:18:40,120
Speaker 1: that do.

1711
01:18:40,160 --> 01:18:42,320
Speaker 5: Stuff on the Internet that now can get people, can

1712
01:18:42,439 --> 01:18:46,720
Speaker 5: sell out comedy clubs. You get people that have podcasts

1713
01:18:46,800 --> 01:18:49,680
Speaker 5: that can now sell out comedy clubs. You have comedians

1714
01:18:49,760 --> 01:18:53,160
Speaker 5: that were you know, middling comedians or even lower than that,

1715
01:18:53,640 --> 01:18:55,479
Speaker 5: but if they get on a podcast and they hit

1716
01:18:55,520 --> 01:18:57,920
Speaker 5: the right note and find the right audience, find the right.

1717
01:18:57,880 --> 01:19:00,360
Speaker 1: People, they rocket ship up. Yeah.

1718
01:19:00,720 --> 01:19:03,439
Speaker 5: You know, so in a lot of ways, the lines

1719
01:19:03,479 --> 01:19:06,160
Speaker 5: have been so blurred, and so granted things are not

1720
01:19:06,280 --> 01:19:09,840
Speaker 5: fully open yet, so we have to see exactly what

1721
01:19:10,160 --> 01:19:13,080
Speaker 5: that's going to look like from a live standpoint, But

1722
01:19:13,200 --> 01:19:15,120
Speaker 5: given the radio and given.

1723
01:19:14,880 --> 01:19:18,519
Speaker 1: The TV show, I need to figure out what that

1724
01:19:18,680 --> 01:19:19,479
Speaker 1: looks like for me.

1725
01:19:19,880 --> 01:19:22,000
Speaker 5: That's going to make sense with the time that I

1726
01:19:22,120 --> 01:19:26,320
Speaker 5: want to put into it. But but that can also

1727
01:19:26,400 --> 01:19:29,439
Speaker 5: be efficient and smart and trying to reach people the

1728
01:19:29,479 --> 01:19:29,760
Speaker 5: way that.

1729
01:19:29,760 --> 01:19:30,240
Speaker 1: You guys have.

1730
01:19:30,520 --> 01:19:33,560
Speaker 2: That's another thing that Conan could help with, you know

1731
01:19:33,560 --> 01:19:35,600
Speaker 2: what I mean, because I noticed that with if you

1732
01:19:35,680 --> 01:19:39,200
Speaker 2: can't be funny, yo, coon, you know what I'm saying,

1733
01:19:40,800 --> 01:19:41,599
Speaker 2: there's a lot.

1734
01:19:41,560 --> 01:19:44,120
Speaker 3: Of motherfuckers out there that want to hear that ship.

1735
01:19:44,280 --> 01:19:44,479
Speaker 6: Man.

1736
01:19:44,600 --> 01:19:46,080
Speaker 1: I like that is true that.

1737
01:19:48,400 --> 01:19:50,519
Speaker 2: Between that ship and then the like people that go

1738
01:19:50,720 --> 01:19:53,640
Speaker 2: you know, Cancel Cunture and the peat like them motherfuckers

1739
01:19:53,680 --> 01:19:54,240
Speaker 2: get bank.

1740
01:19:54,840 --> 01:19:58,200
Speaker 5: But rod between domind and Silk and Stacey Dash, I

1741
01:19:58,240 --> 01:19:59,960
Speaker 5: think the coop market is getting tired.

1742
01:20:00,880 --> 01:20:03,880
Speaker 6: It is, it is getting it's getting tight out there,

1743
01:20:04,120 --> 01:20:05,960
Speaker 6: like you know, you know they have to get them

1744
01:20:06,040 --> 01:20:08,479
Speaker 6: model every every two to three years, so it's.

1745
01:20:08,360 --> 01:20:10,960
Speaker 2: A short Yeah, it's a short time on the top,

1746
01:20:11,120 --> 01:20:14,000
Speaker 2: Like you only get about six to twelve months on

1747
01:20:14,080 --> 01:20:17,439
Speaker 2: the top and then the next coon starts coming in bottle.

1748
01:20:17,840 --> 01:20:21,360
Speaker 3: I mean, if it can't be funny, man, these coon

1749
01:20:21,439 --> 01:20:22,920
Speaker 3: streets are real, it's real.

1750
01:20:23,080 --> 01:20:28,040
Speaker 2: Man can't come back right, and they don't. And then

1751
01:20:28,160 --> 01:20:30,400
Speaker 2: the thing is, they don't really do a lot of

1752
01:20:30,479 --> 01:20:34,759
Speaker 2: public coon beef. But it's but it's obvious the reason

1753
01:20:34,800 --> 01:20:37,120
Speaker 2: they don't beef is because they don't even respect each

1754
01:20:37,120 --> 01:20:37,679
Speaker 2: other enough.

1755
01:20:38,200 --> 01:20:40,919
Speaker 3: Don't like they never work together.

1756
01:20:41,040 --> 01:20:43,840
Speaker 2: You never like, you never see the coons collaborate, Like

1757
01:20:43,960 --> 01:20:48,720
Speaker 2: why the fuck hasn't a dominant silk Candice Owens and

1758
01:20:49,040 --> 01:20:50,799
Speaker 2: that sheriff angry hoodie.

1759
01:20:52,400 --> 01:20:53,639
Speaker 3: Why they don't work together?

1760
01:20:53,800 --> 01:20:54,280
Speaker 4: You know what I mean.

1761
01:20:54,320 --> 01:20:56,599
Speaker 3: It's like they always end up being like I would

1762
01:20:56,640 --> 01:20:59,920
Speaker 3: never work with another with a negro? Are you crazy?

1763
01:21:00,840 --> 01:21:02,720
Speaker 5: You could see that face on a split screen with

1764
01:21:02,840 --> 01:21:05,320
Speaker 5: Fox News when they realized that's another coon there, Like

1765
01:21:05,400 --> 01:21:06,120
Speaker 5: I thought this was me?

1766
01:21:07,560 --> 01:21:08,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was.

1767
01:21:09,160 --> 01:21:11,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, they get mad with the stair caring on.

1768
01:21:12,920 --> 01:21:14,320
Speaker 3: I feel like Stacey Dash.

1769
01:21:14,600 --> 01:21:17,599
Speaker 2: And if Stacey Dash was on a segment with Dominant Silks,

1770
01:21:17,600 --> 01:21:18,559
Speaker 2: she would walk off.

1771
01:21:19,120 --> 01:21:22,360
Speaker 3: Yes, she was like, y'all think, I'm y'all think what

1772
01:21:22,520 --> 01:21:25,160
Speaker 3: we do is the same. It's not the same, Okay.

1773
01:21:25,400 --> 01:21:27,160
Speaker 3: I do a different type of cooning.

1774
01:21:27,360 --> 01:21:30,839
Speaker 4: What they do. I do the upper class cooning.

1775
01:21:30,960 --> 01:21:34,439
Speaker 2: They do slapstick cooning. I'm the Fraser of Coons compared

1776
01:21:34,479 --> 01:21:34,760
Speaker 2: to them.

1777
01:21:35,400 --> 01:21:38,639
Speaker 1: Two coons is like too highlanders. Yes, they can only

1778
01:21:38,760 --> 01:21:40,400
Speaker 1: be one to the death.

1779
01:21:40,560 --> 01:21:42,920
Speaker 3: The lightning starts, the lightning starts striking and.

1780
01:21:42,960 --> 01:21:45,599
Speaker 4: Ship Yester is a big ass battle. We just don't

1781
01:21:45,600 --> 01:21:45,880
Speaker 4: see it.

1782
01:21:46,840 --> 01:21:49,720
Speaker 5: All right, Well, look this is this is that is

1783
01:21:49,840 --> 01:21:53,360
Speaker 5: funny man, this has been You know, What's one thing

1784
01:21:53,400 --> 01:21:56,960
Speaker 5: I wanted to ask you, right is why don't so

1785
01:21:57,160 --> 01:21:58,960
Speaker 5: you mentioned the whole cancel culture things?

1786
01:21:59,080 --> 01:22:00,959
Speaker 1: Right? So, I saw.

1787
01:22:02,400 --> 01:22:06,200
Speaker 5: On Twitter there was a discussion about Daniel Caesar and

1788
01:22:07,600 --> 01:22:12,679
Speaker 5: basically what it was saying was that Daniel, like everybody

1789
01:22:12,760 --> 01:22:15,760
Speaker 5: complains about cancel culture, but really the only people that

1790
01:22:15,800 --> 01:22:19,320
Speaker 5: have ever been canceled is Daniel Caesar and Chrissette Michelle.

1791
01:22:20,720 --> 01:22:24,360
Speaker 5: And to be real, a lot of people have have

1792
01:22:24,560 --> 01:22:27,680
Speaker 5: gone down those pathways and lived to fight another day.

1793
01:22:27,720 --> 01:22:29,759
Speaker 5: Steve Harvey came to mind. They were like, Steve Harvey

1794
01:22:29,840 --> 01:22:32,960
Speaker 5: was able to get past it. Michelle hasn't. And I

1795
01:22:33,160 --> 01:22:35,600
Speaker 5: was like, you know, that is something that bothers me,

1796
01:22:35,960 --> 01:22:39,720
Speaker 5: is like there's little to no consistency to who we

1797
01:22:39,880 --> 01:22:42,360
Speaker 5: decide to give that energy to over time.

1798
01:22:42,479 --> 01:22:46,120
Speaker 1: Everybody gets the energy immediately, right, but then when some people.

1799
01:22:46,280 --> 01:22:50,040
Speaker 1: It's just like you saw Kanye. Kanye just broke Jordan's record.

1800
01:22:50,760 --> 01:22:53,960
Speaker 5: You saw that with selling some yeazis, and nobody been

1801
01:22:54,040 --> 01:22:55,840
Speaker 5: canceled harder or more time than Kanye.

1802
01:22:56,320 --> 01:22:58,360
Speaker 3: He had the choir at DMX funeral.

1803
01:22:59,000 --> 01:23:03,400
Speaker 2: Yes, Like, well, what I've noticed about the whole cancel

1804
01:23:03,439 --> 01:23:08,840
Speaker 2: culture thing, like one, uh, it depends on how you

1805
01:23:08,920 --> 01:23:12,040
Speaker 2: define cancel culture and what your goal is. I think

1806
01:23:12,160 --> 01:23:14,680
Speaker 2: people aren't honest about it because the truth is, when

1807
01:23:14,680 --> 01:23:17,000
Speaker 2: they say they canceling somebody, what they really want is

1808
01:23:17,040 --> 01:23:19,960
Speaker 2: for that motherfucker not to exist anymore. They don't want

1809
01:23:20,000 --> 01:23:22,000
Speaker 2: to say that because it makes you sound super mean,

1810
01:23:22,600 --> 01:23:26,280
Speaker 2: but like that's why they count everything except death as

1811
01:23:26,400 --> 01:23:27,200
Speaker 2: not being canceled.

1812
01:23:28,880 --> 01:23:30,000
Speaker 3: I thought he was canceled.

1813
01:23:30,000 --> 01:23:32,280
Speaker 2: I was like, well, they just took a photo of

1814
01:23:32,360 --> 01:23:35,280
Speaker 2: him going to the supermarket to get a sandwich. It's

1815
01:23:35,360 --> 01:23:38,960
Speaker 2: not really like all he did, Like that just means

1816
01:23:39,000 --> 01:23:42,320
Speaker 2: this person still existing the world. This motherfucker should never

1817
01:23:42,360 --> 01:23:43,040
Speaker 2: get sandwiches.

1818
01:23:43,200 --> 01:23:46,559
Speaker 1: Like, okay, all right, so you you do not sell

1819
01:23:46,960 --> 01:23:47,720
Speaker 1: to Daniel se.

1820
01:23:50,720 --> 01:23:52,960
Speaker 4: Right, Yes, as far as that concern, never make a

1821
01:23:53,040 --> 01:23:53,479
Speaker 4: dime again.

1822
01:23:53,560 --> 01:23:56,439
Speaker 2: I've seen Daniel Sees on Instagram and he still had

1823
01:23:56,520 --> 01:23:59,960
Speaker 2: people listening to him, it's like, yes, because he didn't die,

1824
01:24:00,960 --> 01:24:03,439
Speaker 2: he like you know. So I think that's one of

1825
01:24:03,479 --> 01:24:06,000
Speaker 2: the things is like it's really become it's starting to

1826
01:24:06,080 --> 01:24:07,240
Speaker 2: mean a lot.

1827
01:24:07,160 --> 01:24:09,800
Speaker 3: Of different things to different people. I think what it

1828
01:24:09,960 --> 01:24:13,560
Speaker 3: originally meant was just we don't like this person, you

1829
01:24:13,600 --> 01:24:15,880
Speaker 3: know what I mean? And shit with being real, what

1830
01:24:15,960 --> 01:24:18,360
Speaker 3: it originally meant was I don't like this person, not

1831
01:24:18,960 --> 01:24:21,479
Speaker 3: as an individual, yeah, not even like we And then

1832
01:24:21,520 --> 01:24:23,800
Speaker 3: it just took on this all this whole other life

1833
01:24:23,800 --> 01:24:26,920
Speaker 3: where like you get the harassed people and we call

1834
01:24:27,000 --> 01:24:27,920
Speaker 3: it something other than that.

1835
01:24:29,200 --> 01:24:31,920
Speaker 4: Yourself.

1836
01:24:32,120 --> 01:24:35,960
Speaker 2: Listen, I'm educating him, Okay, I am dragging him to

1837
01:24:36,160 --> 01:24:38,760
Speaker 2: to to salvation. Anyway, back to what I was saying,

1838
01:24:39,120 --> 01:24:43,479
Speaker 2: kill yourself, Dan yourself addict you the worst sin, sin sin.

1839
01:24:43,640 --> 01:24:45,280
Speaker 2: So I think I think it means a lot of

1840
01:24:45,280 --> 01:24:48,560
Speaker 2: different ship. But I think always whenever you're talking about that,

1841
01:24:48,680 --> 01:24:50,920
Speaker 2: the most marginalized people are the ones that pay the cost,

1842
01:24:51,960 --> 01:24:54,160
Speaker 2: because we know have the least amount of resources.

1843
01:24:54,240 --> 01:24:58,280
Speaker 3: So to me, the most major cancelation is Colin Kaepernick.

1844
01:24:59,360 --> 01:25:00,400
Speaker 3: That like, that's that's the one.

1845
01:25:00,520 --> 01:25:03,679
Speaker 2: Nobody considers it that because white people did that shit,

1846
01:25:04,200 --> 01:25:06,840
Speaker 2: The conservative white people who canceled people all the time,

1847
01:25:06,960 --> 01:25:09,639
Speaker 2: by the way, but it was like, that's the one

1848
01:25:09,760 --> 01:25:12,479
Speaker 2: that I'm always like. That motherfucker was in the peak

1849
01:25:12,680 --> 01:25:17,519
Speaker 2: of his athletic skill. He was probably at that time

1850
01:25:17,640 --> 01:25:21,280
Speaker 2: top fifteen. You maybe if you really want to argue,

1851
01:25:21,360 --> 01:25:24,200
Speaker 2: top twenty, definitely within the top sixty four, which means

1852
01:25:24,240 --> 01:25:25,080
Speaker 2: he should at least.

1853
01:25:24,880 --> 01:25:25,400
Speaker 3: Be a backup.

1854
01:25:26,120 --> 01:25:28,360
Speaker 2: And they really said, we don't like what he did,

1855
01:25:28,880 --> 01:25:30,840
Speaker 2: we don't want him to ever play in this league again.

1856
01:25:31,479 --> 01:25:35,120
Speaker 2: And it hurt more because the cancelation came from people

1857
01:25:35,200 --> 01:25:37,679
Speaker 2: that have power, and so the people that have power,

1858
01:25:37,720 --> 01:25:39,639
Speaker 2: those thirty two owners, and they can go, we don't

1859
01:25:39,680 --> 01:25:42,320
Speaker 2: want to deal with this shit. So that's that's like

1860
01:25:42,439 --> 01:25:46,599
Speaker 2: a real cancelation for sim Michelle doubled down, tripled down,

1861
01:25:46,720 --> 01:25:49,240
Speaker 2: lied about a miscarric there's a bunch of shit on

1862
01:25:49,360 --> 01:25:51,839
Speaker 2: her way to people just going we don't like you anymore,

1863
01:25:51,960 --> 01:25:52,599
Speaker 2: we don't want.

1864
01:25:52,479 --> 01:25:55,840
Speaker 3: To see you. And so that wasn't to me like

1865
01:25:56,760 --> 01:25:59,160
Speaker 3: someone with power pulling this lever to go we will

1866
01:25:59,240 --> 01:26:01,439
Speaker 3: never see you again. And it was just like same thing.

1867
01:26:01,560 --> 01:26:06,000
Speaker 2: Daniel Caesar came to his own fans defending that white

1868
01:26:06,040 --> 01:26:08,479
Speaker 2: girl yes jewels and telling them well.

1869
01:26:08,400 --> 01:26:08,880
Speaker 3: Cancel me.

1870
01:26:09,080 --> 01:26:11,880
Speaker 2: You niggas is always talking about racism. It's like, well,

1871
01:26:11,920 --> 01:26:14,080
Speaker 2: you told people not to listen to you. Gu's what

1872
01:26:14,160 --> 01:26:17,519
Speaker 2: they like, that's just what the fuck you want to do.

1873
01:26:18,120 --> 01:26:20,880
Speaker 2: They're not psychic, you know what I mean. So to me,

1874
01:26:21,000 --> 01:26:24,200
Speaker 2: that's where it comes down where I'm like, you can

1875
01:26:24,280 --> 01:26:25,840
Speaker 2: be force it on your own petard or.

1876
01:26:25,840 --> 01:26:29,080
Speaker 3: Whatever, and that's that's your fault. Like, that's not really

1877
01:26:29,160 --> 01:26:30,240
Speaker 3: my fault to me.

1878
01:26:30,680 --> 01:26:34,599
Speaker 2: The undeserving people Colin Kaepernick, you know, the Dixie Chicks

1879
01:26:34,600 --> 01:26:38,400
Speaker 2: who you know technically still around doing stuff shit, Calpernick,

1880
01:26:38,600 --> 01:26:41,760
Speaker 2: Kaepernick win't got Nike deals and shit. But it's just

1881
01:26:41,880 --> 01:26:45,000
Speaker 2: that type of thing where it's like, that's what to

1882
01:26:45,120 --> 01:26:46,559
Speaker 2: me feels like really being canceled.

1883
01:26:46,600 --> 01:26:49,080
Speaker 3: Some of this shit is just niggas reaping the fucking

1884
01:26:49,160 --> 01:26:52,360
Speaker 3: rewards of what they sold. You know what I mean?

1885
01:26:53,040 --> 01:26:54,920
Speaker 2: If I come if I come on this show tomorrow

1886
01:26:54,920 --> 01:26:57,080
Speaker 2: and say, actually, everything we've been saying the last eleven

1887
01:26:57,160 --> 01:27:00,439
Speaker 2: years is wrong, I'm with Trump now, and then the

1888
01:27:00,520 --> 01:27:02,519
Speaker 2: next day I'm like, no one listens to the show.

1889
01:27:03,120 --> 01:27:06,200
Speaker 6: What the hell Like I'll be making out a statement

1890
01:27:06,320 --> 01:27:11,439
Speaker 6: the views of this the black guy hootips I am

1891
01:27:11,600 --> 01:27:15,080
Speaker 6: the sole owner. He has sold his half of the

1892
01:27:15,200 --> 01:27:18,640
Speaker 6: company and moving forward he will no longer be associated.

1893
01:27:18,960 --> 01:27:20,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, and another thing.

1894
01:27:21,320 --> 01:27:26,920
Speaker 1: With a box. Either that or you tell people Rod

1895
01:27:27,080 --> 01:27:32,320
Speaker 1: was on ambient, right, and then the other count.

1896
01:27:32,200 --> 01:27:33,880
Speaker 4: Got hacked and then the other thing too.

1897
01:27:34,080 --> 01:27:36,920
Speaker 2: Is like a lot of times, and you just apologize,

1898
01:27:37,640 --> 01:27:40,200
Speaker 2: you can get whatever the fuck it was back, you

1899
01:27:40,280 --> 01:27:40,680
Speaker 2: know what I mean.

1900
01:27:40,760 --> 01:27:45,200
Speaker 3: Like, that's what happened with Steve Harvey. Steve Harrey went visited.

1901
01:27:44,880 --> 01:27:47,320
Speaker 2: Trump and all this ship, and then the inauguration came

1902
01:27:47,400 --> 01:27:49,560
Speaker 2: and he said his wife told him he couldn't go,

1903
01:27:50,560 --> 01:27:53,120
Speaker 2: which when Karen said she blames the patriarch and blames me,

1904
01:27:53,160 --> 01:27:55,800
Speaker 2: I'm like, don't men mostly blame my wives when we

1905
01:27:55,840 --> 01:27:56,639
Speaker 2: don't want to do some shit?

1906
01:27:57,040 --> 01:27:57,960
Speaker 3: Because that's definitely my.

1907
01:27:58,040 --> 01:28:02,040
Speaker 1: Go to unlessu's Karen trying to leave a party, right, Yeah.

1908
01:28:01,960 --> 01:28:02,719
Speaker 4: That's that's different.

1909
01:28:02,720 --> 01:28:03,439
Speaker 3: As long as she's not.

1910
01:28:03,560 --> 01:28:05,479
Speaker 2: I mean, if she's with me, my cover is blown

1911
01:28:05,520 --> 01:28:08,280
Speaker 2: because yeah, as soon as they start talking to her,

1912
01:28:08,360 --> 01:28:10,800
Speaker 2: she's gonna just completely betray me and stab me in

1913
01:28:10,840 --> 01:28:11,120
Speaker 2: the back.

1914
01:28:11,280 --> 01:28:14,719
Speaker 6: Yes, but like this, I have been getting better because

1915
01:28:14,760 --> 01:28:17,800
Speaker 6: of COVID because I'm an extrovert and I like to talk.

1916
01:28:17,880 --> 01:28:20,760
Speaker 6: I actually stand behind Roger now so that I won't

1917
01:28:20,800 --> 01:28:21,679
Speaker 6: talk to the cashier.

1918
01:28:21,960 --> 01:28:24,439
Speaker 4: So I have been getting better. He is my shield

1919
01:28:24,840 --> 01:28:27,080
Speaker 4: to prevent me from having long point of conversations.

1920
01:28:27,200 --> 01:28:30,120
Speaker 2: But yeah, so you know, I think that might come

1921
01:28:30,160 --> 01:28:33,519
Speaker 2: into But honestly, a lot of these people apologize and

1922
01:28:33,600 --> 01:28:35,519
Speaker 2: then they just keep working and they'll be fine.

1923
01:28:35,600 --> 01:28:37,800
Speaker 3: Steve Harvey and kept working.

1924
01:28:38,720 --> 01:28:43,800
Speaker 5: I feel like people who It's interesting because the consequences

1925
01:28:43,840 --> 01:28:46,640
Speaker 5: of like cancelation are like dubious, right, It's a lot

1926
01:28:46,680 --> 01:28:49,040
Speaker 5: of negative tweets that day, like they'll jump me and

1927
01:28:49,080 --> 01:28:50,720
Speaker 5: mentions that day or like the next day.

1928
01:28:51,120 --> 01:28:53,360
Speaker 1: It doesn't really seem to have long lasting effects.

1929
01:28:53,479 --> 01:28:56,880
Speaker 5: But what I would like to see is the flip side,

1930
01:28:57,000 --> 01:29:00,280
Speaker 5: the people like the Dixie Chicks or Megan Repea was

1931
01:29:00,280 --> 01:29:02,200
Speaker 5: another one who was like an ally like early in

1932
01:29:02,280 --> 01:29:06,439
Speaker 5: the streets, right, the people who on the opposite side

1933
01:29:06,920 --> 01:29:11,040
Speaker 5: have have done the work early, like they deserve to

1934
01:29:11,120 --> 01:29:14,840
Speaker 5: get the opposite whatever the opposite of cancelation is, they

1935
01:29:14,920 --> 01:29:16,679
Speaker 5: deserve like if we can put.

1936
01:29:16,560 --> 01:29:19,519
Speaker 1: That energy into that, that would be Now you mentioned

1937
01:29:19,640 --> 01:29:20,479
Speaker 1: Colin Kaepernick.

1938
01:29:20,680 --> 01:29:24,000
Speaker 5: What's fascinating to me about Kaepernick is that I think

1939
01:29:24,000 --> 01:29:26,759
Speaker 5: about this all the time. Don't you think the NFL

1940
01:29:27,000 --> 01:29:31,080
Speaker 5: hates the fact that they didn't just let that joint ride.

1941
01:29:31,640 --> 01:29:34,160
Speaker 5: If they want to just let that joint ride and

1942
01:29:34,320 --> 01:29:35,880
Speaker 5: just let it fall by the way side, it was

1943
01:29:35,920 --> 01:29:39,679
Speaker 5: a preseason game, if they would just let it fall

1944
01:29:39,760 --> 01:29:43,040
Speaker 5: by the wayside. But they just had to cut off

1945
01:29:43,080 --> 01:29:46,560
Speaker 5: their nose to spike their face and and allow it

1946
01:29:46,640 --> 01:29:48,280
Speaker 5: to turn into what it turned into.

1947
01:29:48,840 --> 01:29:49,320
Speaker 1: And it could.

1948
01:29:49,439 --> 01:29:52,840
Speaker 5: And now they're paying millions of dollars for Inspire Change commercials.

1949
01:29:53,160 --> 01:29:55,519
Speaker 5: And you got a Kwan Bolden talking about his friend

1950
01:29:55,640 --> 01:29:58,479
Speaker 5: was murdered during the Super Bowl like that, that's what

1951
01:29:58,640 --> 01:29:59,639
Speaker 5: you that's what y'all did.

1952
01:30:00,760 --> 01:30:06,040
Speaker 2: It was that thing where Goodell, I think, immediately realized

1953
01:30:06,120 --> 01:30:08,640
Speaker 2: he had overstepped his bounds and was like, no, no, no, no, no,

1954
01:30:09,439 --> 01:30:10,800
Speaker 2: we need to be on the right side of this.

1955
01:30:11,640 --> 01:30:16,160
Speaker 3: But his bosses are thirty two rich white dudes. They're

1956
01:30:16,360 --> 01:30:18,040
Speaker 3: not They don't have to do ship.

1957
01:30:18,600 --> 01:30:21,640
Speaker 2: And that was, you know, like being told to do

1958
01:30:21,760 --> 01:30:25,439
Speaker 2: it exactly like I remember, I said, the ship was

1959
01:30:25,560 --> 01:30:30,400
Speaker 2: over with to me. When the owners and the players

1960
01:30:30,439 --> 01:30:32,840
Speaker 2: came out and took a knee together, I said, yep,

1961
01:30:32,960 --> 01:30:36,479
Speaker 2: that that protest will never be the same because at

1962
01:30:36,520 --> 01:30:38,920
Speaker 2: that point it became about the ego those guys on

1963
01:30:39,000 --> 01:30:40,640
Speaker 2: the field going, you're not going to tell us what

1964
01:30:40,720 --> 01:30:40,920
Speaker 2: to do.

1965
01:30:42,720 --> 01:30:46,320
Speaker 3: To Yeah, it was Lewis was praying, well, Ray Lewis

1966
01:30:46,400 --> 01:30:48,800
Speaker 3: was praying on both mes. That's why he was took

1967
01:30:49,000 --> 01:30:52,080
Speaker 3: not one but to me, yes, both of them, okay,

1968
01:30:52,120 --> 01:30:53,360
Speaker 3: And I say, god.

1969
01:30:54,200 --> 01:30:57,439
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm like, Ray, don't you know who's defending you?

1970
01:30:57,560 --> 01:30:59,320
Speaker 5: Why call you a murder on social media?

1971
01:31:00,880 --> 01:31:02,000
Speaker 1: All right? What you doing?

1972
01:31:02,120 --> 01:31:02,360
Speaker 3: Player?

1973
01:31:02,800 --> 01:31:04,120
Speaker 1: He's like, but that's the thing.

1974
01:31:04,600 --> 01:31:08,240
Speaker 2: I killed black people too, so we can't be judging.

1975
01:31:10,160 --> 01:31:15,040
Speaker 2: But no, it's just funny though, because I felt like they, uh. Ever,

1976
01:31:15,120 --> 01:31:16,960
Speaker 2: since then it was over because it was a whole

1977
01:31:16,960 --> 01:31:24,240
Speaker 2: different conversation about Trump, about unity. It was a protest

1978
01:31:24,400 --> 01:31:27,080
Speaker 2: as an idea. When it was the right time it was,

1979
01:31:27,640 --> 01:31:31,160
Speaker 2: it stopped being about Kaepernick. Was like, it's specifically about

1980
01:31:31,720 --> 01:31:33,800
Speaker 2: the state sanctioned murder of these black people.

1981
01:31:33,840 --> 01:31:37,000
Speaker 3: They were like yeah, yeah, yeah, that's cool. We don't

1982
01:31:37,000 --> 01:31:39,479
Speaker 3: want to talk about that though. Jerry Jones, you got

1983
01:31:39,520 --> 01:31:41,679
Speaker 3: something to say, and it just turned into some bullshit.

1984
01:31:41,800 --> 01:31:45,040
Speaker 6: So yeah, my man for Papa John's he got kicked

1985
01:31:45,080 --> 01:31:47,960
Speaker 6: out trying to try hopping in the freight nigga, you

1986
01:31:48,040 --> 01:31:50,040
Speaker 6: say pizzas just Josh Snyder every.

1987
01:31:50,040 --> 01:31:50,719
Speaker 3: It was crazy.

1988
01:31:51,040 --> 01:31:55,360
Speaker 1: He did him Daniels Michelle.

1989
01:31:56,520 --> 01:31:58,519
Speaker 3: And he got he got set up. He got set

1990
01:31:58,600 --> 01:31:59,720
Speaker 3: up too, he did.

1991
01:32:00,080 --> 01:32:00,679
Speaker 1: Still laughing.

1992
01:32:01,200 --> 01:32:03,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I still laugh at that ship because it.

1993
01:32:03,960 --> 01:32:06,679
Speaker 2: Was a conference call with the PR people to help

1994
01:32:06,880 --> 01:32:12,040
Speaker 2: reform his image and uh his he wasn't saying nigger

1995
01:32:12,320 --> 01:32:15,200
Speaker 2: like in a like I'm like these goddamn niggas.

1996
01:32:15,520 --> 01:32:20,840
Speaker 3: He was saying, look, I'm not racist. The fucking dude,

1997
01:32:20,920 --> 01:32:24,960
Speaker 3: Colonel Sanders KFC used to literally say nigger. And they

1998
01:32:25,000 --> 01:32:29,720
Speaker 3: were like on the phone, said nigger. He was like, no,

1999
01:32:29,880 --> 01:32:34,639
Speaker 3: I'm saying He said, nigga, we got you on tape.

2000
01:32:34,680 --> 01:32:37,000
Speaker 3: Your ass is gone. I was like, yep, they And

2001
01:32:37,240 --> 01:32:39,439
Speaker 3: by the way, I don't care that he got set up.

2002
01:32:40,600 --> 01:32:43,759
Speaker 1: He was rehab.

2003
01:32:43,960 --> 01:32:46,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, well he's he's down to a nigger a year

2004
01:32:46,640 --> 01:32:49,799
Speaker 2: and I'm proud of him. I hope he can continue

2005
01:32:49,880 --> 01:32:51,040
Speaker 2: his journey of sobriety.

2006
01:32:51,439 --> 01:32:52,320
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

2007
01:32:52,960 --> 01:32:54,200
Speaker 3: But that was the best man.

2008
01:32:54,720 --> 01:32:54,960
Speaker 1: He was.

2009
01:32:55,840 --> 01:32:56,559
Speaker 3: That was big.

2010
01:32:56,960 --> 01:32:59,280
Speaker 5: You think you think they had meetings where he was like,

2011
01:32:59,479 --> 01:33:01,720
Speaker 5: you know what, I have a confession to make. Uh

2012
01:33:02,040 --> 01:33:04,559
Speaker 5: I backslid yesterday A dude cut.

2013
01:33:04,479 --> 01:33:07,479
Speaker 1: Me off in traffic and I couldn't control myself. I

2014
01:33:07,640 --> 01:33:07,920
Speaker 1: used it.

2015
01:33:08,360 --> 01:33:10,800
Speaker 3: My name is John, and I'm a nigger lover the word,

2016
01:33:11,120 --> 01:33:12,080
Speaker 3: the word. Not the people.

2017
01:33:13,600 --> 01:33:15,360
Speaker 6: Give us your token, You're gonna have to earn it again.

2018
01:33:15,560 --> 01:33:20,759
Speaker 2: Right, here's my sobriety chip. I'm backslid. I was listening

2019
01:33:20,840 --> 01:33:23,800
Speaker 2: to some some rap and I sang the chorus for

2020
01:33:23,920 --> 01:33:24,439
Speaker 2: gold Digger.

2021
01:33:25,600 --> 01:33:26,240
Speaker 3: But yeah, it was.

2022
01:33:26,320 --> 01:33:29,559
Speaker 2: It was funny because he was another one that, uh well,

2023
01:33:29,600 --> 01:33:32,840
Speaker 2: he was begging for it. Like like once again, all

2024
01:33:32,880 --> 01:33:35,040
Speaker 2: the people that get quote unquote canceled. It's never the

2025
01:33:35,160 --> 01:33:39,320
Speaker 2: one thing. It's always like they just kept going.

2026
01:33:39,720 --> 01:33:41,559
Speaker 4: You know what, couldn't stop. They couldn't stop them.

2027
01:33:41,760 --> 01:33:44,200
Speaker 3: And it's really you blacks who are the problems, Like

2028
01:33:44,840 --> 01:33:47,840
Speaker 3: you really don't want to sell no albums, okay.

2029
01:33:48,120 --> 01:33:51,120
Speaker 6: And the thing is, I know Roger was glad because

2030
01:33:51,920 --> 01:33:54,839
Speaker 6: we used to eat Papa John's because I love Papa John's,

2031
01:33:55,360 --> 01:33:56,800
Speaker 6: but you know, I hate it.

2032
01:33:57,040 --> 01:33:57,439
Speaker 3: He hated.

2033
01:33:57,520 --> 01:33:59,519
Speaker 6: And one was so funny was that I actually had

2034
01:33:59,560 --> 01:34:02,360
Speaker 6: stopped it for a while and Roger would bring it

2035
01:34:02,439 --> 01:34:04,280
Speaker 6: up and I would turn my nose up.

2036
01:34:04,560 --> 01:34:06,519
Speaker 4: He was the one that got me started back eating

2037
01:34:06,520 --> 01:34:07,280
Speaker 4: it again because she.

2038
01:34:07,439 --> 01:34:11,000
Speaker 3: Was because I knew deep down she was unhappy, you know.

2039
01:34:11,000 --> 01:34:11,439
Speaker 6: What I mean.

2040
01:34:13,160 --> 01:34:17,040
Speaker 1: And you compromised your beliefs for your wife. Well, what

2041
01:34:17,200 --> 01:34:18,560
Speaker 1: kind of leader does that make you?

2042
01:34:18,600 --> 01:34:20,880
Speaker 4: When you were him? Because I.

2043
01:34:22,800 --> 01:34:24,559
Speaker 3: Have a ration now here, it's the opposite.

2044
01:34:25,200 --> 01:34:27,720
Speaker 2: My beliefs would have been compromised if I would have

2045
01:34:27,960 --> 01:34:32,479
Speaker 2: let her boycott this pizza, knowing that she had Actually

2046
01:34:32,479 --> 01:34:35,960
Speaker 2: they had actually addressed the concerns now before that.

2047
01:34:36,240 --> 01:34:38,559
Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, fuck them. Then they fired. They

2048
01:34:38,640 --> 01:34:41,280
Speaker 3: set the dude up and fired them, which to me

2049
01:34:41,439 --> 01:34:43,080
Speaker 3: is above and beyond the call of duty.

2050
01:34:43,120 --> 01:34:43,280
Speaker 5: There.

2051
01:34:43,360 --> 01:34:44,920
Speaker 2: That was just like God, I didn't know you could

2052
01:34:45,000 --> 01:34:47,960
Speaker 2: do that to a white man in America. So I

2053
01:34:48,040 --> 01:34:49,880
Speaker 2: was like, okay, So they canceled the dude is he

2054
01:34:50,000 --> 01:34:53,280
Speaker 2: was trying to show he wasn't racist? Okay, cool, cool

2055
01:34:53,320 --> 01:34:53,519
Speaker 2: with that.

2056
01:34:54,160 --> 01:34:54,920
Speaker 3: Then they went out.

2057
01:34:54,960 --> 01:34:57,879
Speaker 2: They hired a black woman for the PR They invested

2058
01:34:57,920 --> 01:35:00,720
Speaker 2: in the black community. They got all these black entrepreneurs

2059
01:35:00,760 --> 01:35:03,400
Speaker 2: and owners. They started putting them in all the ass

2060
01:35:03,479 --> 01:35:06,960
Speaker 2: they win got shack they did. I said, what fuck, Okay,

2061
01:35:07,080 --> 01:35:08,280
Speaker 2: you know what you did.

2062
01:35:08,479 --> 01:35:10,000
Speaker 4: You did it, You did the right thing.

2063
01:35:10,160 --> 01:35:12,639
Speaker 3: It's just said, no, my wife is in here suffering

2064
01:35:13,040 --> 01:35:15,400
Speaker 3: every time I go you want to order pizza, and

2065
01:35:15,520 --> 01:35:16,920
Speaker 3: I know I can see it on the tip of

2066
01:35:16,920 --> 01:35:19,040
Speaker 3: her lips. So she wants. I'm like, what you want

2067
01:35:19,080 --> 01:35:20,880
Speaker 3: to get? You want pizza hut? Do I know what

2068
01:35:20,960 --> 01:35:23,840
Speaker 3: she wants? She wants Papa Johns, y'all. And so I

2069
01:35:23,960 --> 01:35:26,559
Speaker 3: can't look at her fall on face every time pizza

2070
01:35:26,640 --> 01:35:27,120
Speaker 3: comes up.

2071
01:35:27,760 --> 01:35:30,240
Speaker 2: So I said, let me just get the fucking Papa

2072
01:35:30,320 --> 01:35:32,000
Speaker 2: John's because it's the right thing to do.

2073
01:35:32,720 --> 01:35:34,920
Speaker 3: I can't enjoy my food if I'm even here eating.

2074
01:35:35,200 --> 01:35:38,040
Speaker 3: I'm in here eating pizza hut, enjoying myself, you know,

2075
01:35:38,520 --> 01:35:41,439
Speaker 3: deep dish pizza. I look over here, and she's sad

2076
01:35:41,560 --> 01:35:43,680
Speaker 3: because it ain't no garlic butter and it ain't no

2077
01:35:43,720 --> 01:35:46,599
Speaker 3: motherfucking sweet ass sauce on it or whatever the fuck

2078
01:35:46,640 --> 01:35:47,760
Speaker 3: else they putting that shit.

2079
01:35:48,280 --> 01:35:50,560
Speaker 4: She like, she's just over there, sadly.

2080
01:35:50,280 --> 01:35:52,840
Speaker 3: Eating a pizza. I'm not doing that every day. So

2081
01:35:53,320 --> 01:35:55,599
Speaker 3: so I bit the bullet and went back to Papa

2082
01:35:55,720 --> 01:35:57,559
Speaker 3: John's because I love this woman so much.

2083
01:35:58,040 --> 01:36:01,719
Speaker 1: You did it for your household, and to be fair.

2084
01:36:01,880 --> 01:36:04,000
Speaker 5: When he looks at his old company, he sees the

2085
01:36:04,439 --> 01:36:06,320
Speaker 5: biggest blackest man that he could find.

2086
01:36:06,400 --> 01:36:08,360
Speaker 1: That they put shack on the cover so that has

2087
01:36:08,400 --> 01:36:09,960
Speaker 1: to hurt him deep in his soul as well.

2088
01:36:10,160 --> 01:36:12,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I love, honestly, dude.

2089
01:36:12,560 --> 01:36:16,960
Speaker 2: Uh say they speaking of cancelations Sterling, Dude, these all

2090
01:36:17,000 --> 01:36:17,519
Speaker 2: the Clippers.

2091
01:36:18,160 --> 01:36:19,519
Speaker 3: I'm like, people always go.

2092
01:36:19,960 --> 01:36:22,880
Speaker 2: They gave him four billion dollars. Then about his team,

2093
01:36:23,600 --> 01:36:25,880
Speaker 2: I wish I had that kind of racism. I'm like, yeah,

2094
01:36:26,040 --> 01:36:29,040
Speaker 2: except he's an eighty something year old man and that's

2095
01:36:29,080 --> 01:36:29,920
Speaker 2: the only thing he.

2096
01:36:31,680 --> 01:36:32,799
Speaker 3: That was what he wanted.

2097
01:36:33,000 --> 01:36:36,120
Speaker 2: He wanted that team so much that when they offered

2098
01:36:36,200 --> 01:36:38,200
Speaker 2: him the money, he said no, and then the NBA said,

2099
01:36:38,240 --> 01:36:39,120
Speaker 2: beat you selling it.

2100
01:36:39,479 --> 01:36:42,679
Speaker 3: And I'm like, honestly, I'm okay with that. I want

2101
01:36:42,800 --> 01:36:44,840
Speaker 3: him to be hurt more than I want him. I

2102
01:36:44,880 --> 01:36:47,040
Speaker 3: don't give a fuck because he would trade all the

2103
01:36:47,120 --> 01:36:49,599
Speaker 3: billions to still own those blacks.

2104
01:36:50,080 --> 01:36:53,960
Speaker 5: And he came, you know how mad he has to

2105
01:36:54,040 --> 01:36:58,640
Speaker 5: be where he's like, I literally was found guilty of

2106
01:36:58,800 --> 01:37:02,400
Speaker 5: housing discrimination, yes, putting black people out on the street

2107
01:37:02,560 --> 01:37:05,680
Speaker 5: for decades, Yes, And you're gonna kick me off for

2108
01:37:05,760 --> 01:37:06,599
Speaker 5: talking about magic?

2109
01:37:07,000 --> 01:37:08,920
Speaker 1: That's really that was the third round for me?

2110
01:37:09,120 --> 01:37:11,400
Speaker 2: Was magic, right, And that was what I loved about

2111
01:37:11,439 --> 01:37:14,800
Speaker 2: it too, was that it was magic because to this day,

2112
01:37:14,840 --> 01:37:16,920
Speaker 2: people still think he got kicked out for being racist.

2113
01:37:16,960 --> 01:37:20,960
Speaker 2: I'm like, no, he never really was one hundred percent racist.

2114
01:37:21,400 --> 01:37:24,040
Speaker 2: We just all said, if you don't like Magic Johnson,

2115
01:37:24,280 --> 01:37:26,840
Speaker 2: you don't like no niggas like.

2116
01:37:26,960 --> 01:37:29,679
Speaker 4: Magic is the best of us, and it's so funny.

2117
01:37:29,840 --> 01:37:32,040
Speaker 4: As many times as I heard that, every time I

2118
01:37:32,160 --> 01:37:34,320
Speaker 4: hear that, I hear things that aren't there.

2119
01:37:35,560 --> 01:37:38,040
Speaker 6: For a long time, I thought he said that big

2120
01:37:38,280 --> 01:37:39,839
Speaker 6: black nigga Magic Johnson.

2121
01:37:40,000 --> 01:37:42,240
Speaker 4: That man did not say that, but that's what I heard.

2122
01:37:42,160 --> 01:37:42,760
Speaker 1: In my head.

2123
01:37:42,960 --> 01:37:44,120
Speaker 4: So I was in that interview.

2124
01:37:44,240 --> 01:37:47,360
Speaker 2: Okay, I always thought he said big black Magic Johnson

2125
01:37:47,800 --> 01:37:50,040
Speaker 2: because I thought because I'm like, remember, we got rid

2126
01:37:50,080 --> 01:37:51,040
Speaker 2: of him because he was racist.

2127
01:37:51,080 --> 01:37:52,680
Speaker 3: I was looking at the interview. I actually had a

2128
01:37:52,720 --> 01:37:54,120
Speaker 3: clip of the interview.

2129
01:37:56,080 --> 01:37:59,839
Speaker 1: What is he done? Can you tell me big Magic Johnson?

2130
01:38:00,000 --> 01:38:03,400
Speaker 1: What does he john? Well, yeah, he's a business person,

2131
01:38:04,080 --> 01:38:04,800
Speaker 1: he's got age.

2132
01:38:05,840 --> 01:38:08,880
Speaker 3: And I said that man hates all black men. He

2133
01:38:08,960 --> 01:38:11,439
Speaker 3: didn't really technically say anything about black people.

2134
01:38:12,600 --> 01:38:13,000
Speaker 4: I heard.

2135
01:38:13,040 --> 01:38:17,320
Speaker 6: I serded what I heard I was black people, black

2136
01:38:17,439 --> 01:38:20,040
Speaker 6: Magic take his team.

2137
01:38:20,560 --> 01:38:23,080
Speaker 4: You don't like him, you don't, I know, you don't

2138
01:38:23,120 --> 01:38:23,320
Speaker 4: like me.

2139
01:38:24,000 --> 01:38:27,519
Speaker 5: I didn't realize that getting age took your accomplishments I did.

2140
01:38:30,320 --> 01:38:36,760
Speaker 3: That's it. And your career, your age eduson. Cooper was

2141
01:38:36,800 --> 01:38:39,080
Speaker 3: trying to help him. Yeah, he was like, well he's

2142
01:38:39,120 --> 01:38:40,280
Speaker 3: done that. He's a business leader.

2143
01:38:40,360 --> 01:38:44,599
Speaker 2: You got age Like, Okay, you don't roll the tape.

2144
01:38:44,680 --> 01:38:48,840
Speaker 2: You don't give a fuck, but yeah, man, like I said,

2145
01:38:48,880 --> 01:38:50,760
Speaker 2: this has been so fun. Res Man, we really do

2146
01:38:50,840 --> 01:38:53,640
Speaker 2: appreciate you coming through. You gotta come back again and

2147
01:38:53,800 --> 01:38:56,639
Speaker 2: uh play some of these games with us. You definitely

2148
01:38:56,640 --> 01:38:58,840
Speaker 2: gotta play some fucking with black people and some guests

2149
01:38:58,840 --> 01:39:03,400
Speaker 2: the race with you, all that stuff. D W boreere

2150
01:39:03,439 --> 01:39:05,920
Speaker 2: to find you, you know, with nine the Team nine

2151
01:39:06,000 --> 01:39:07,559
Speaker 2: eighty and uh you.

2152
01:39:07,640 --> 01:39:10,280
Speaker 3: Know ws A nine and all that stuff, and your

2153
01:39:10,320 --> 01:39:11,960
Speaker 3: social media for sure.

2154
01:39:12,439 --> 01:39:14,760
Speaker 1: On social media, I'm at Reese Waters. That's our e

2155
01:39:14,880 --> 01:39:17,120
Speaker 1: E S E W A T E R s on

2156
01:39:17,320 --> 01:39:17,960
Speaker 1: on everything.

2157
01:39:18,800 --> 01:39:21,200
Speaker 5: I host The Team nine eighty from noon to three

2158
01:39:21,760 --> 01:39:25,960
Speaker 5: pm every weekday in Washington, d C. So if people

2159
01:39:26,000 --> 01:39:29,240
Speaker 5: want to, I drop links on on Twitter on social

2160
01:39:29,280 --> 01:39:30,600
Speaker 5: media all the time, or they can give me a

2161
01:39:30,720 --> 01:39:33,360
Speaker 5: call three oh one two three oh zero nine eighty.

2162
01:39:33,439 --> 01:39:35,559
Speaker 5: That goes for both of y'all. You want to give

2163
01:39:35,600 --> 01:39:37,600
Speaker 5: me a call anytime. Rod, you've been on camera. We

2164
01:39:37,680 --> 01:39:39,000
Speaker 5: got to get you on to talk some of this

2165
01:39:39,120 --> 01:39:41,920
Speaker 5: trash as well. And then the new show coming on

2166
01:39:42,120 --> 01:39:45,000
Speaker 5: ws A nine probably sometime this summer, so we'll be

2167
01:39:45,080 --> 01:39:45,760
Speaker 5: on the lookout for that.

2168
01:39:46,000 --> 01:39:47,840
Speaker 1: Don't worry. If you follow me on social media, you

2169
01:39:47,920 --> 01:39:48,640
Speaker 1: will not miss it.

2170
01:39:49,240 --> 01:39:52,160
Speaker 5: And then I drop a commentary videos on YouTube, so

2171
01:39:52,200 --> 01:39:54,320
Speaker 5: if they want to follow me on YouTube, it's just

2172
01:39:54,760 --> 01:39:55,960
Speaker 5: Reese Waters on YouTube.

2173
01:39:56,479 --> 01:39:58,479
Speaker 1: I dropped one of two videos every single day.

2174
01:39:58,520 --> 01:40:00,680
Speaker 3: So here you go, y'all. Makes you y'all follow that man.

2175
01:40:00,760 --> 01:40:04,760
Speaker 2: Like I said, good brother, very funny, very and it's

2176
01:40:04,800 --> 01:40:06,519
Speaker 2: been a long time coming to get him on the show.

2177
01:40:07,000 --> 01:40:09,880
Speaker 2: So glad to make that happen. Shout to Randolph Terrence for.

2178
01:40:10,120 --> 01:40:14,760
Speaker 3: Even introducing us, so I appreciate.

2179
01:40:14,360 --> 01:40:14,800
Speaker 5: That, dude.

2180
01:40:15,240 --> 01:40:18,800
Speaker 2: And we'll be back tomorrow with another episode. Tuesday, we

2181
01:40:18,920 --> 01:40:20,920
Speaker 2: have Mike Kaplan as a guest, so be on the

2182
01:40:21,000 --> 01:40:21,600
Speaker 2: lookout for that.

2183
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Speaker 3: And until then, I love you. Oh wait, wait wait,

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Speaker 3: I forgot one more thing. I forgot one more thing. Sorry,

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

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Speaker 4: Sorry, kiss for nothing.

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Speaker 2: H tonight at seven if you're listening live or if

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Speaker 2: you hear this episode on Sunday tonight at seven, I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna be on a panel with the people from for

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Speaker 2: Our Nerds podcasts and we're gonna be talking about Falcon

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Speaker 2: and the Winter Soldier, uh season and then our thoughts

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Speaker 2: on that. So just wanted to get that out there,

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Speaker 2: trying to do some good promotion and and all this

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Speaker 2: other stuff we've been doing. Also, keep forgetting to mention

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Speaker 2: we were on some podcasts. Both of us were on

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Speaker 2: Three Guys on we were. I was on the Moundane

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Speaker 2: Festival podcast talker Falcon in the Winter Soldier with Chris

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Speaker 2: Lambeth and Randolph Terrace last week, and then I was

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Speaker 2: also on the DJ Blaze radio show podcast where they

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Speaker 2: recapped Snowfall and I talked to them about the season

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Speaker 2: finale and had a good time with those fellas. So, uh,

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Speaker 2: just find those everywhere you get podcasts, uh Spotify if

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Speaker 2: you're listening to this on Spotify.

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Speaker 3: And until next time, I love you, I love you too.

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Speaker 2: Why