1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:04,400 Speaker 1: Welcome in final hour of the week, Clay Travis Buck 2 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 1: Sexton Show. Monstrous numbers of people tuned in to Fox News, 3 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 1: to CNN, and to MSNBC last night. I would bet 4 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 1: that monstrous numbers of you are listening to us today 5 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:22,279 Speaker 1: as well as we obviously have spent the entire show 6 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 1: so far discussing the indictment of former President Trump by 7 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 1: the New York City District Attorney Alvin Bragg. I would 8 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 1: encourage you to go listen to our interview with Andy McCarthy, 9 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:36,920 Speaker 1: who is awesome, at the top of the second hour, 10 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:38,640 Speaker 1: which would mean that I would encourage you to go 11 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 1: listen to the podcast and subscribe there as well. You 12 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 1: can search out my name Clay Travis, you can search 13 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 1: out Buck Sexton. We're on just shy of five hundred 14 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:51,240 Speaker 1: radio stations nationwide. We will love all of you listening 15 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:53,239 Speaker 1: to us live right now, but we also know that 16 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 1: life brings at times complications. You may not be able 17 00:00:57,120 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 1: to listen to every segment of the show. We want 18 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 1: you to be there for three hours, like my mom 19 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 1: and dad are, and like Buck's mom and dad often 20 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 1: are as well, but we want you to have access 21 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 1: to the podcast lots of unique original things there. You 22 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:13,760 Speaker 1: can search out Clay Travis or Buck Sexton and subscribe. 23 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 1: So we have talked about this on so many different levels, 24 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 1: and there's a whole question up right now we have 25 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 1: retweeted from the Clay and Buck account. Does this make 26 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:25,399 Speaker 1: you more or less likely to vote for President Trump? 27 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 1: A lot of people are also saying I should have 28 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 1: put up a no change at all, because you were 29 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 1: either going to vote for him or against him, and 30 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 1: nothing at this point is changing. And that to me 31 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 1: is the most integral question here, Buck, because we can 32 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 1: talk all about the legality, and I think this is 33 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 1: a crap indictment. I think that a New York Appills 34 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 1: Court should throw it out based on statute of limitations 35 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 1: and on an expansive and unacceptable definition of this as 36 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 1: a felony. We should also point out that Alvin Bragg 37 00:01:57,320 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 1: almost never charges people with felon right and often allows 38 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 1: people to plead down from felony to misdemeanor. And here 39 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 1: he is raising a misdemeanor to a felony in an 40 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:12,640 Speaker 1: effort to go after Donald Trump. But ultimately, what this 41 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 1: boils down to for me, Buck, is not just the 42 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:17,920 Speaker 1: unprecedented nature of these charges and the fact that in 43 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:20,800 Speaker 1: two hundred and forty years, it's never happened before, and unfortunately, 44 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:23,520 Speaker 1: I think it will happen going forward now more frequently, 45 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 1: that political adversaries will face criminal charges, not for those 46 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:31,239 Speaker 1: criminal activities at all, but just because of the political ramifications. 47 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 1: But ultimately, this question that is the most integral is this, 48 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:40,800 Speaker 1: how do these charges, if at all, impact who's going 49 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:43,640 Speaker 1: to win in twenty twenty four? Because buck when I 50 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 1: look back at Joe Biden becoming the selection of the 51 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 1: Democrat Party, it was they rightly deduced that he was 52 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 1: the best option they had to beat Trump in twenty twenty, 53 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 1: and then he got a massive assist from COVID. I 54 00:02:57,880 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 1: believe Trump would have one I've said for a long 55 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 1: time comfortably in twenty twenty if COVID had not upset 56 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 1: the apple cart, changed all the rules and allowed fear 57 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 1: to be the predominant message of Joe Biden's twenty twenty campaign. 58 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:12,359 Speaker 1: I think a lot of women, in particular, a lot 59 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 1: of suburban moms, bought into the idea that Joe Biden 60 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:18,919 Speaker 1: was going to solve everything. He would take care of COVID, 61 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 1: normalcy would return. That certainly hasn't happened. What's going to 62 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 1: happen if it is Trump and Biden again, things have 63 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:30,920 Speaker 1: to change. Will Trump be able to change the elector 64 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:33,080 Speaker 1: at the outcome and therefore return to the White House. 65 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 1: We asked this question, I think rhetorically, because it's so 66 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 1: far away that there will be so many indicators that 67 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 1: will have changed. There'll be so many things that will 68 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 1: be at play that we can't even necessarily foresee right now. 69 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 1: What is the state of the US economy, What is 70 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 1: the state of the war in Ukraine? What is the 71 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 1: situation of Trump's legal fights against this indictment? Sure, but 72 00:03:57,160 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 1: we are all expecting that. Now, if you're the joy 73 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 1: Georgia Grand Jury and the Georgia prosecutor, why wouldn't you 74 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 1: bring an indictment? Again? Again, the incentives for people in 75 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 1: the position of either brag Or or the case of 76 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 1: the Georgia prosecutor specifically, the incentive is for them to 77 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 1: at least bring it because the same way that I 78 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 1: think this is important to remember, the journalistic establishment in 79 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 1: this country, because of Trump openly said you remember this. 80 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 1: They started to tell people this, They said it out loud, 81 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:37,280 Speaker 1: and it became really a rallying cry for them in 82 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 1: an era of Trump. The truth is anti Trump. That 83 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 1: became their entire mantra, meaning they no longer were to 84 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:48,279 Speaker 1: just tell people the facts and let them describe, you know, 85 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:51,359 Speaker 1: or let them decide it was the truth must be 86 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 1: anti Trump. Were no longer journalists. Yea, they're doing something 87 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:57,839 Speaker 1: similar to the law here. The law is no longer 88 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 1: about justice. It's no longer about what the statutes say 89 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:05,719 Speaker 1: and what is in keeping with just outcomes. The law 90 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 1: is a weapon of anti Trumpism. They are taking the 91 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 1: core institutions that we some people at least take for 92 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 1: granted and they're using them for political purposes in a 93 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 1: way that cannot This can't go back, right, This doesn't 94 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 1: ever get changed. Really, so that part of it for 95 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 1: me is really is very concerning over the long term. 96 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:29,600 Speaker 1: And I think that as for how this shakes out 97 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:34,839 Speaker 1: for the election, you know, the Democrats, it feels to 98 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 1: me like in their minds, this is their move no 99 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:39,480 Speaker 1: matter what, because let's say Trump wins, well, at least 100 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 1: they'll have had the emotional satisfaction of their Trump to 101 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 1: arrangement syndrome, which is a term we should bring back 102 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 1: this is trumped arrangement to syndrome on display from this 103 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:53,360 Speaker 1: prosecutor in New York City. So in order to satiate 104 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:55,719 Speaker 1: their trumped arrangement syndrome, they will have brought this charge 105 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:58,360 Speaker 1: and perhaps other charges. And so even if Trump is 106 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 1: able to beat them, and I know, based on our 107 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 1: polling yesterday, about half this audience, maybe fifty five percent, 108 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:08,040 Speaker 1: thinks that Trump will beat them despite all of this. 109 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 1: But for them, it's well, even if that happens, why 110 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 1: not try to cheat, you know what I mean? Like 111 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 1: they would have lost in their minds if they would 112 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 1: lose by even more if they weren't trying to rig 113 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:19,839 Speaker 1: the system against him. So this is why I see 114 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 1: this as just the beginning. I think the effort grows, 115 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:26,480 Speaker 1: and I can foresee a situation where I do I 116 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:32,160 Speaker 1: might be wrong about this. Couldn't Trump be theoretically prevent 117 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 1: Now you can run for office as a felon. We 118 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 1: talked to Andy about this for president. For president, you 119 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 1: can be a felon. But aren't there a certain constitutionally 120 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 1: proscribed offenses that you would not be able to hold 121 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:48,160 Speaker 1: high federal office? Such as if they were to go 122 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 1: with incitement to insurrection. I just think that they're going 123 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 1: to take this all the way. Now, that's kind of think. 124 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:56,719 Speaker 1: I think you would have to be impeached rather than 125 00:06:56,839 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 1: just charged and convicted by an outside court. And I 126 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 1: also like, so I'm talking about while he's running. Yeah, 127 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:08,040 Speaker 1: I think you could impeach. Again. I could be wrong. 128 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 1: This is all Let me just say this. Any lawyer 129 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 1: who tells you, hey, this is one hundred percent going 130 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 1: to happen. These are such uncharted waters, do not trust 131 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 1: that lawyer. And certainly if it's a lawyer who is 132 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 1: representing any of the people involved in the case. I've 133 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 1: been in these situations, right, you're gonna make it. If 134 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 1: you're the defense attorney, prosecutor whatever it is, you're gonna 135 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 1: make it as if, oh, this is the easiest call 136 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 1: that's ever existed. I believe Buck that if you are impeached, 137 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 1: like the reason they brought impeachment two was the idea 138 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 1: of trying to keep Trump from ever being able to 139 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 1: run for elective office. Again, if you are, and again, 140 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 1: this is such an This is me on the fly, right, 141 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 1: It's not like I'm studying the constitution right now and 142 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 1: all of the law so I believe that in order 143 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 1: to not be able to run, it would have to 144 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 1: be a impeachment proceeding that would say he's no longer 145 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 1: eligible to serve office, because I believe there have been 146 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 1: judges that have been impeached which would keep them from 147 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 1: ever being able to work in the federal government. Again, 148 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 1: there have not certainly been any any presidents that have 149 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 1: been impeached and removed from office. Right the first part 150 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 1: of the impeachment house, then you have to get sixty 151 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 1: seven votes in the Senate in order to keep you 152 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:34,960 Speaker 1: from being eligible to be president anymore. So this is 153 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 1: the fourteenth Amendment, Section three. It prohibits those who had 154 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 1: engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the United States or 155 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:49,960 Speaker 1: given aid or comfort to the enemies. There is sorry couch. 156 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:52,839 Speaker 1: That's the Civil War. So they were saying that if 157 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:56,960 Speaker 1: you were a Confederate soldier, that's when that was passed. 158 00:08:57,160 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 1: This is what they tried to apply to Marjorie Taylor Green, 159 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 1: and the court disallowed it because the plane reading of that, 160 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:07,840 Speaker 1: and this is the plane reading of that, is this 161 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 1: was designed for someone who actually took up arms against 162 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:14,720 Speaker 1: the United States government. In other words, Robert E. Lee 163 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:17,719 Speaker 1: and Jefferson Davis and all the I'm a Civil War 164 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 1: history but they were, you know, they so so this 165 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 1: is already you're you're saying, this is already because now 166 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 1: this is where they're trying to claim, um that that 167 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 1: is that that is the way that they could prevent 168 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 1: you know, looking at it, and that's the that's the 169 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 1: that's the legal argument that they tried to use to 170 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:38,079 Speaker 1: keep Marjorie Taylor Green from being able to return to Congress. 171 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 1: But I'm telling you they still think they can use 172 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:42,560 Speaker 1: it against Trump said, I don't think, you know, I 173 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 1: don't think that would in any way be effective. That 174 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:46,840 Speaker 1: is what I'm saying. I mean, but they tried to 175 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 1: use it against Marjorie Taylor Green in Georgia, and that 176 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 1: was tossed out. I believe, again, this is such a 177 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 1: tenuated crazy jurisprudence. I don't have that case in front 178 00:09:56,920 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 1: of me right now, but if I remember correctly, I 179 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 1: leave they tossed out that idea because it was designed 180 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 1: specifically that aspect of the Fourteenth Amendment to apply to 181 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 1: Confederate soldiers who had taken up arms against the United 182 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 1: States government. But yes, you're right, they're gonna try to 183 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 1: do anything they can to keep Trump. Here's the deal, though, Buck, 184 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 1: I don't think they actually want him not to be 185 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 1: able to run. To me, the play here is to 186 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 1: weaken Trump in the general election while strengthening him in 187 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 1: the Republican race, So they want Trump to be the nominee. 188 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 1: I understand some of you out there are saying, oh, 189 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 1: this is about trying to keep Trump from running because 190 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 1: they're afraid he's gonna win. I don't think that's true 191 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 1: at all. I think they know that Trump is strengthened 192 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 1: with charges in the Republican nomination battle, but he is 193 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 1: simultaneously weakened in a general election against Bien. It makes 194 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 1: him the candidate, and it sets him up to be 195 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 1: a weaker candidate. That's right, That's what they want. That's 196 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:03,199 Speaker 1: what they want. That's what they're trying to do here. 197 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 1: And if you doubt me, I just wanted to play 198 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 1: this because this is understand we're dealing in a propaganda 199 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 1: media era. Here is a montage of media on MSNBC 200 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 1: and CNN gleefully reacting to Trump being charged with a crime. 201 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 1: Doesn't matter what the crime is, they are just ecstatic. 202 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 1: Listens Alert, here. We have just gotten word former President 203 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 1: Donald Trump has been indicted. NBC News has learned a 204 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 1: New York grand jury has just voted to indict former 205 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 1: President Donald Trump. We have some breaking news and it 206 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 1: is historic news out of Lower Manhan right now the 207 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:40,080 Speaker 1: federal jury. A grand jury has voted to indict former 208 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 1: President Trump. Finally happened. A New York grand jury has 209 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:47,199 Speaker 1: voted to indict former President Trump. Three minutes before I 210 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 1: walked out on the stage here, the New York Times 211 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 1: reported a New York grand jury voted to indict former 212 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 1: President The Jay and Donald J. Trump now stands for jail, lady, justice, 213 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 1: grab Trump. All right, there you go. They want him indicted, 214 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:10,200 Speaker 1: Democrats want him in the ring against Joe Biden. It 215 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:14,200 Speaker 1: is an unprecedented, uncharted era in American legal history. We 216 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 1: went two hundred and forty years without one political party 217 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 1: trying to put their chief political opposition behind bars. This 218 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 1: is where we are. Democrats who claimed that they cared 219 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 1: about the sanctity of democracy are showing their hand. All 220 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 1: they care about is raw, naked partisan power, and they 221 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:38,079 Speaker 1: will do themselves everything that they told us Trump would do. 222 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 1: Imagine the reaction if Trump had tried to put Joe 223 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:46,840 Speaker 1: Biden behind bars. And oh, by the way, there's plenty 224 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 1: of evidence that certainly the Biden crime family has committed 225 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 1: a bevy of felonies which are far more serious than 226 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 1: what man Hattan District Attorney. I want to do another 227 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:58,200 Speaker 1: stake bet on how Joe Biden still won't have his 228 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 1: son charge this year. Because I'm I'm hungry, I'm willing 229 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:04,440 Speaker 1: to go to go. We went to transcript. I think 230 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:06,320 Speaker 1: I have one a stake bet because I've been saying 231 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 1: Trump would be indicted for a long time. No, but 232 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:16,079 Speaker 1: not not on this, not on Stormy Daniel. No, No, 233 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 1: We're gonna have to have the team go back into 234 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 1: the twenty twenty two animals to find out exactly what 235 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 1: you do you even remember the Stormy Daniel's thing was. 236 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:25,720 Speaker 1: I mean, there are times where I forgot that they 237 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:27,679 Speaker 1: were even looking into this. Well, I mean again, I 238 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 1: think it's important to note that the federal government reviewed 239 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:34,559 Speaker 1: all of this evidence and decided this is not a bringable, 240 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 1: colorable claim, and then they brought it back, which is 241 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:39,320 Speaker 1: why I think their statute of limitations issues. They've been 242 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:42,600 Speaker 1: investigating this for seven years. 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He's gonna tell us 267 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 1: about his incredible story of survival and perseverance, never giving up. 268 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 1: He's got a book out and he is the Fox 269 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 1: correspondent who was grievously wounded in Ukraine. You will remember 270 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 1: the very start of the Ukraine War. He is going 271 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 1: to talk to us about what he went through and 272 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 1: how he's overcoming. He's back home, thank God now with 273 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 1: his wife and children and and and still doing work 274 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 1: for Fox. I just I know we're talking a lot 275 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 1: about the the legal ramifications of the Trump indictment everything today, 276 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 1: and obviously that's the biggest single story I did just 277 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 1: want to throw out there because we only got a 278 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:47,120 Speaker 1: couple of minutes here that Clay, the data you know 279 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 1: this is I know we're going back to vaccines here 280 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 1: for a second with COVID, but the data from Australia, 281 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 1: which has both very very granular data it's not that 282 00:15:57,240 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 1: big of a country and obviously had incredible strict really 283 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 1: the strictest outside of China. I think rules for a 284 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 1: lockdown for any major country, for lockdowns and vaccination, they 285 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 1: made everybody get the shot. There was really no way 286 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 1: to not get the shot, and they just went through. 287 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 1: I think they had was it twelve or thirteen percent 288 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 1: excess mortality I'm sorry, twelve percent excess mortality for twenty 289 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 1: twenty two. The data is finally in its twenty twenty three, 290 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 1: which is another way of saying that even after the 291 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 1: whole country was vaccinated, you can look and see it 292 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 1: did not prevent a lot of death and might have 293 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 1: even created because of the lockdown situations or more people died. Essentially, 294 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 1: the vaccine in Australia was a giant failure, a giant 295 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 1: to get Alex Berenson on to talk about that latest 296 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 1: data because one of the scariest parts, and of course 297 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 1: this is not going to surprise you. None of the 298 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 1: media out there hardly is talking about it is COVID's 299 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 1: basically over right for all intents and purposes, has been 300 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 1: for a while. People are dying at way outside the 301 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 1: expected range still all over the world, and the places 302 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:14,680 Speaker 1: with the highest level of death have the highest level 303 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 1: of COVID shot vaccination. So what's going on there, Buck, 304 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:21,119 Speaker 1: I mean, this is again, this is not you and 305 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 1: me just kind of spitballing. This is what the data 306 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:26,480 Speaker 1: is reflecting. Now you could potentially say, oh, tons of 307 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:29,240 Speaker 1: people made poor health choices. They didn't go to the gym, 308 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:31,200 Speaker 1: they didn't work out, they didn't go see their doctor, 309 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:33,920 Speaker 1: and they're dying now at higher rates because we were 310 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:37,440 Speaker 1: massively over indexed on worrying about COVID. Maybe that's it, 311 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:39,919 Speaker 1: but I think that's getting harder and harder of a 312 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:43,119 Speaker 1: case to make with the data. 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The 341 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:28,960 Speaker 1: book is out, it is fabulous, and it is saved 342 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 1: a war reporter's mission to make at home you were. 343 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:36,120 Speaker 1: Benjamin is with us now, what is the last thing 344 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 1: you remember before that attack happened, and what was your 345 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 1: immediate recollection when you became aware of what happened with 346 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:47,120 Speaker 1: that attack. And we're so glad that you have recovered 347 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:49,360 Speaker 1: and that you're going to be there with your family 348 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 1: for years and years to come. Yes, well, I mean 349 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:54,320 Speaker 1: thanks to claim back for having me on. I really 350 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:56,880 Speaker 1: appreciate it. And yes, I think back that day every 351 00:19:56,920 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 1: single day really, and I think the last thing I 352 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 1: remember was driving home thinking that we had done our 353 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 1: job really well that day, which filmed some of the 354 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:07,200 Speaker 1: abandoned villagers that have been shelled, no one in sight, 355 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:09,480 Speaker 1: and I just remember thinking in my head, how are 356 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:11,199 Speaker 1: we going to edit this piece, what's the story going 357 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 1: to be, how are we going to put it together? 358 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:14,640 Speaker 1: And out of nowhere, out of the sky, the bomb 359 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 1: started flying rob right at the car, targeted at us. 360 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 1: So that was the last moment that I remember up 361 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 1: to then and cash out and get out of the 362 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:24,720 Speaker 1: car just before the second bomb hit right next to 363 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 1: us and knocked me out. And then of course I 364 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:30,240 Speaker 1: remember the rest of the day as well. I've managed 365 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:33,679 Speaker 1: to get out of the car, was on fire, leg gone, 366 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:37,639 Speaker 1: foot gone, you know, Shratton across my face, badly injured. 367 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:40,040 Speaker 1: But then I just remember the forty minutes of sitting 368 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 1: there trying to think, how do I get home, how 369 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 1: do I survive? How do I get home to my family? 370 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:45,639 Speaker 1: So I remember it all very clearly, and you know, 371 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 1: I think back to it every day because I think 372 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 1: it gives me strength to remember that. Hey, Benjamin, it's 373 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:53,359 Speaker 1: buck n What can you tell us about, you know, 374 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 1: the rescue operation to get you out? You know, we 375 00:20:57,359 --> 00:21:00,240 Speaker 1: do not have a US military presence in country, So 376 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:03,639 Speaker 1: this is a very different situation than correspondence for example, 377 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 1: who would have been in Iraq or Afghanistan in previous years. 378 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 1: How did you get out of the country. Well, that's 379 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:13,680 Speaker 1: right then, Jen Griffin, or Pentagon correspondent. She found out 380 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 1: quite quickly, and she spoke to John Kirby, who she 381 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:18,520 Speaker 1: was with at the Pentagon, and he said, look, we 382 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 1: cannot go into Ukraine. It is government policy. No one's 383 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 1: going in to get him. If you can get him 384 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 1: to the border, then we will be there and the 385 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 1: US military will pick him up and help treat him. 386 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:30,640 Speaker 1: And so it was on her to find a team 387 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:32,679 Speaker 1: who could come and get that. And she knew the 388 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:35,080 Speaker 1: team from Save Our Allies. This is the same incredible 389 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 1: group led by Sarah Verado who got thousands of people 390 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:40,360 Speaker 1: out of Afghanistan when that country fell in The US 391 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:44,160 Speaker 1: pulled out and they had this team together in Poland 392 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 1: for all former military, former intelligence, and they came in 393 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:50,639 Speaker 1: without knowing where I was. They just knew that the 394 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 1: team had been hit, and they knew that two of 395 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:55,680 Speaker 1: the team were dead, and they just started driving. They 396 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 1: drove the twenty hours in and they tracked me down 397 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:01,959 Speaker 1: badly injured in a small Ukrainian hospital, but they couldn't 398 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 1: get me out of the city. The capital city of 399 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:06,600 Speaker 1: Kiv was almost surrounded by the Russians at that point, 400 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 1: and they couldn't fly me out. They couldn't drive me 401 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 1: out because of the chapel in my neck. But we 402 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 1: found out through intelligence, or they found out through intelligence. 403 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 1: But the Polish Prime Minister was on a covert vision 404 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:23,119 Speaker 1: to meet to eat Zelenski, and if we could reach 405 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:26,200 Speaker 1: the Polish Prime Minister's train inside Kiev, which is their 406 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:29,360 Speaker 1: equivalent to Air Force one, then we could get out 407 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:31,960 Speaker 1: with the Polish Prime Minister. But that involved breaking through 408 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 1: the curfew thirty six hour curfew, and that was chet 409 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 1: point to checkpoint through the middle of the night, and 410 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:39,440 Speaker 1: at each one being pulled out of the car by 411 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:42,960 Speaker 1: the Ukrainian soldiers at gunpoint. They thought that we were 412 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 1: Russian team coming in opening up my wounds, checking my 413 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 1: wounds with no pain meds at that point. And so 414 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:52,119 Speaker 1: we had this mad dash through the city to try 415 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 1: and get to the train, and finally, with minutes to spare, 416 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:57,159 Speaker 1: we got to this train and the evacuation finally was 417 00:22:57,520 --> 00:23:00,399 Speaker 1: able to continue and to be completed. But what is 418 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:02,359 Speaker 1: amazing in the book is that it is about these people, 419 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:04,159 Speaker 1: these people who risk their own lives to come in 420 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 1: and save me, who took a look at one picture 421 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:08,680 Speaker 1: and said, there's an American there who needs help. We're 422 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:10,239 Speaker 1: going to go in and get him. And I tell 423 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:12,119 Speaker 1: the backstory as some of the guys who came in, 424 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:15,359 Speaker 1: people who had lost friends alongside him in Afghanistan in 425 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:18,200 Speaker 1: the rock, who had lost fathers, and they said, we're 426 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:19,879 Speaker 1: not going to let another father die and leave his 427 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 1: children at home. And so it's an incredible story about 428 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 1: how they risk their lives to come and get me 429 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:26,800 Speaker 1: and find a way to get me home and get 430 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:29,119 Speaker 1: me out we're talking to Benjamin Hall. The book is 431 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:32,359 Speaker 1: Saved or Reporter's Mission to Make It Home. What do 432 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:34,720 Speaker 1: you It was almost exactly a year ago that this 433 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:37,879 Speaker 1: happened to you. How have you changed since then? What 434 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 1: is different in your life? How do you value things 435 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 1: in your life differently? Many people have had these in 436 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:47,360 Speaker 1: ear death experiences, have massive changes in their life. How 437 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:50,960 Speaker 1: would you assess your life having changed since then? Yeah, 438 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:53,120 Speaker 1: in many ways, you know, I feel exactly the same 439 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:55,960 Speaker 1: person sometimes, and I feel like a totally different and 440 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:59,720 Speaker 1: new person in many others. And I just think that 441 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:02,760 Speaker 1: my outlook on life, the things that matter most have changed. 442 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:05,040 Speaker 1: And all the small things that you know you worry 443 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:08,399 Speaker 1: about in life, the little details, none of those matter anymore. 444 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:11,159 Speaker 1: I have this incredibly wide picture of what matters in 445 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 1: the world, and it is family, It is helping others, 446 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 1: It is you know, the prior to your country doing 447 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 1: the big important things. If we do those things together, 448 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 1: then everything else will sort itself out. And you know, 449 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:25,320 Speaker 1: I appreciate some of these things in a real emotional sense. Now, 450 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 1: I guess feel it. I feel it inside now. I 451 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:28,879 Speaker 1: feel the love for my family and the prior towards 452 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:32,199 Speaker 1: of America, my country, and so I feel different in 453 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 1: that sense. And I also just think that we don't 454 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:38,479 Speaker 1: pay enough attention to those things sometimes in life. You know, 455 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 1: we have to work hard and we have to do 456 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:42,480 Speaker 1: it for one another, and if we do that, we're 457 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 1: going to be in a better place. And that's how 458 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:47,119 Speaker 1: I plan on continuing my life. Now, Benjamin, what can 459 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:50,359 Speaker 1: you tell us about your plan's not going forward? I mean, 460 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:54,159 Speaker 1: would you you're you're continuing, I know, to work with Fox. 461 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:56,440 Speaker 1: What are your goals now? What do you want to 462 00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:59,159 Speaker 1: be doing now? Well, the most important thing is I 463 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:00,680 Speaker 1: want to keep moving for towards you know. And I 464 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:03,160 Speaker 1: do the book too, and of course I talk about 465 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:04,919 Speaker 1: what happened to him, and it's an incredible story. But 466 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:07,199 Speaker 1: in my mind, I'm looking forward. I'm looking at what 467 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 1: we can do next, not what happened in the past. 468 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 1: And I can't wait to get back to work. I 469 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 1: want to start telling stories of some of these heroes 470 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 1: that I met, the heroes who helped me, talking about 471 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:18,320 Speaker 1: some of the incredible things out there, the community of 472 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:21,119 Speaker 1: people out there. You know, I spent fifteen years covering wars, 473 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:24,200 Speaker 1: and somehow I feel like there's a slight. You asked me, 474 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 1: what have changed about myself? And this is a change 475 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 1: in my work as well. The focus that I want 476 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:30,720 Speaker 1: to want to look at has changed as well, So 477 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:33,720 Speaker 1: I think that's where I want to go next. But 478 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:35,320 Speaker 1: the main thing is I want to keep working again. 479 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:38,720 Speaker 1: You know, having these injuries, you know, losing limbs, it's 480 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:41,159 Speaker 1: don't stop you from doing anything in life. You know, 481 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:42,680 Speaker 1: you've got to pick yourself up and you've got to 482 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:45,159 Speaker 1: work hard and keep working. And that's that's exactly what 483 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:47,240 Speaker 1: I plan to keep doing. And as soon as possible, 484 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:49,199 Speaker 1: I've got a couple of operations coming up which have 485 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:50,960 Speaker 1: to hold me back. I'll be off my legs for 486 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:54,040 Speaker 1: a while, but as soon as those finished, I'll be 487 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:57,119 Speaker 1: be back on a back telling these incredible stories. What 488 00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:59,440 Speaker 1: was it like to see your kids? And how much 489 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:03,240 Speaker 1: did they impact your drive to get out of Ukraine 490 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:06,959 Speaker 1: and keep yourself alive? Everything? Everything. The minute that I 491 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:10,080 Speaker 1: was lying there on the ground that I know very 492 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:12,640 Speaker 1: badly injured, I was telling PR cameraman who hadn't died 493 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 1: at that point, and I was saying, I've got to go. 494 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:16,399 Speaker 1: I'm so injured, We've got to go home, and all 495 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:18,440 Speaker 1: I could think of is how do I get back 496 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 1: to my children? What am I going to do? I'm 497 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:22,800 Speaker 1: going to crawl to find them. And even when I 498 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:24,359 Speaker 1: was in hospital, every gair, I thought, I'm going to 499 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 1: get better every day. I'm going to walk further today, 500 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:28,199 Speaker 1: and then if I did two steps yesterday and do 501 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:30,480 Speaker 1: three steps today, because I'm going to go home to 502 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:32,480 Speaker 1: see my children. And actually when I got home, I 503 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 1: remember being quite nervous before I saw them, because I 504 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:37,399 Speaker 1: was so afraid that they would be somewhat scared of me, 505 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:39,359 Speaker 1: that their lives would change, that it would be harder 506 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:41,840 Speaker 1: for them. So I entered my house. That when I 507 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:44,400 Speaker 1: finally came home and I turned the corner and all 508 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:47,320 Speaker 1: those fears disappear. Is they just ran. They ran, and 509 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:49,480 Speaker 1: they hugged me, and you realize that nothing else Matt, 510 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:52,920 Speaker 1: It's father and son and all the other things disappear. 511 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:55,919 Speaker 1: And at that moment of just total joy, where I 512 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:59,080 Speaker 1: realized I'd got everything I'd worked for, everything I'd struggled for, 513 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:02,040 Speaker 1: was right there hugging me. You know, my three girls 514 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:05,160 Speaker 1: were there, and you know that's what drives me. It's 515 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:07,960 Speaker 1: what drives me every day. The book is Saved a 516 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 1: war reporter's mission to make it home. 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We got into all kinds, 550 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:09,280 Speaker 1: all kinds of stuff, particularly on the history side, the 551 00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:11,360 Speaker 1: history that you're not supposed to know and that you're 552 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 1: not supposed to talk about, for example, and how he 553 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 1: brings it up when he goes to different colleges and universities. 554 00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 1: That's all in the Clay and Buck podcast feed, so 555 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 1: go check it out. Also, Anna Paulina Luna earlier this week, 556 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:25,200 Speaker 1: who was one of those rebels in Congress. We're still 557 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:29,360 Speaker 1: heading for a Clay, a major debt ceiling showdown, and 558 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:31,800 Speaker 1: it's going to be a little different with some of 559 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 1: the folks involved here from the congressional side of it 560 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 1: than it has been in the past, I think. So 561 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:41,720 Speaker 1: please do subscribe to Clay and Buck podcast and Clay 562 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:43,360 Speaker 1: you want to do calls, you want to do emails, 563 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:47,160 Speaker 1: dealer's choice. I'll go with a call. You pull up 564 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:50,480 Speaker 1: what you like on the email faction here. We got 565 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:52,760 Speaker 1: a bunch people in all over the place who want 566 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:55,240 Speaker 1: to weigh in. Charlie in Miami, what do you think? 567 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 1: Hey claim? But Charlie, two quick questions regarding Trump, with 568 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:03,400 Speaker 1: all these four plus cases probably going through, I mean, 569 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:07,680 Speaker 1: isn't a higher probability likelihood that it's going to ultimately 570 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:11,200 Speaker 1: be appealed to the Supreme Court and it gets thrown out? 571 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:16,520 Speaker 1: And then my second question is regarding the manifesto in Nashville. 572 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:19,080 Speaker 1: Where is it? Kaba Clay, you take the court, I'll 573 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:21,760 Speaker 1: take the manifesto, go for it. Yeah, so I think 574 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:24,400 Speaker 1: it is going to be tossed out. Now. The problem 575 00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 1: if you heard us talking to Andy McCarthy, it might 576 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:30,120 Speaker 1: take years because remember let's use New York State as 577 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:32,800 Speaker 1: an example. It has to go all the way through 578 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 1: the New York State courts. Then it has to go 579 00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:37,719 Speaker 1: to the Supreme Court, and the Supreme Court will have 580 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:41,800 Speaker 1: to find a federal related issue that makes reviewing the 581 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:46,320 Speaker 1: New York State Court viable from a federal perspective. Same 582 00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:49,800 Speaker 1: thing would have to happen in Georgia if there were 583 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:53,120 Speaker 1: federal decisions made, like the Department of Justice. That's somewhat 584 00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:56,240 Speaker 1: easier because it's straight to the Supreme Court because Supreme 585 00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:59,719 Speaker 1: Court has federal jurisdiction after it goes through the circuit 586 00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:02,520 Speaker 1: courts and everything else there. So yes, I think this 587 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:05,640 Speaker 1: thing is going to be a long, slow moving legal 588 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:08,760 Speaker 1: process that takes years, and unfortunately they win either way 589 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:13,200 Speaker 1: in a sense because the process is the punishment. Yes, 590 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:16,640 Speaker 1: the process is the punishment. And then on the manifesto 591 00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 1: side of things, we talked about this in some detail yesterday. 592 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:23,680 Speaker 1: Play raise very interesting possibility that there could be some 593 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:29,640 Speaker 1: legitimate details that affect you know, individuals still alive or 594 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:32,200 Speaker 1: you know, perhaps the families of the deceased. So there, 595 00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:35,000 Speaker 1: I wish the law enforcement would just say that so 596 00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:38,800 Speaker 1: that there wouldn't be this sense of politicization. I'm still 597 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:42,240 Speaker 1: suspicious of the delay to be to put it mildly, 598 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:45,760 Speaker 1: and I would just also point out that the do 599 00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:47,240 Speaker 1: you see this, This just came out yes or the 600 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:50,280 Speaker 1: Bide administration, and the same week that a transgender individual 601 00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:53,720 Speaker 1: engages in a mass murder, including the murder of three 602 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:57,480 Speaker 1: little kids, nine year olds, the Bide administration put out 603 00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:01,040 Speaker 1: a proclamation on Transgender Day of Visibility. This is from 604 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:06,160 Speaker 1: the White House yesterday. Trans Transgender Day of Visibility celebrates 605 00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:08,160 Speaker 1: the joy, strength, and absolute courage of some of the 606 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:11,200 Speaker 1: bravest people I know. I believe also Karen Jean Pierre 607 00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:13,760 Speaker 1: said something on the lines of the White Houses. You know, 608 00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:16,959 Speaker 1: heart goes out to all the transgender people who are 609 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:20,480 Speaker 1: under threat right now, something along along those lines. So 610 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:23,400 Speaker 1: that show their focus is They showed up in Tennessee. 611 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:26,200 Speaker 1: We didn't really talk about this, uh and they had 612 00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:31,200 Speaker 1: a storming essentially of the Tennessee State capital and Buck. 613 00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:32,760 Speaker 1: I don't know if you saw some of these videos, 614 00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:38,480 Speaker 1: they were chanting that there were seven victims. I didn't 615 00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:40,320 Speaker 1: see that chance. I saw the videos of the of 616 00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:44,000 Speaker 1: the railing of seven fingers and chanting that there were 617 00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 1: seven disgusting they were the murderer as a victim in 618 00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:55,240 Speaker 1: the Tennessee the Nashville, my hometown, mass killing event inside 619 00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:59,080 Speaker 1: of a school. You know this, this is that's reminiscent 620 00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:03,160 Speaker 1: to me of you know, when certain jihadist mindsets, when 621 00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:06,200 Speaker 1: they will celebrate the suicide bomber as a martyr. Yes, 622 00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:08,560 Speaker 1: you know, that's the level of evil that you cross 623 00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:11,240 Speaker 1: over into. You know, a suicide bomber walks into a 624 00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:14,320 Speaker 1: pizzeria in Israel and Hamas says, you know, this is 625 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:17,200 Speaker 1: a brave act. The woman who did this was not 626 00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:20,880 Speaker 1: a victim. He was not a victim. But it's a 627 00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:22,600 Speaker 1: point of contention for a lot of us. Still, we 628 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:25,360 Speaker 1: want to know what happened. And remember, speaking of the 629 00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:28,240 Speaker 1: dishonesty in the media, we have a story up. Bobby 630 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:33,160 Speaker 1: Barackett at OutKick wrote this. CBS News banned their reporters 631 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:38,240 Speaker 1: from referring to the transgender yes aspect of this murder. 632 00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:41,440 Speaker 1: Think about how crazy I think just if a white 633 00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:46,560 Speaker 1: guy commits a mass shooting, Imagine the outrage if there 634 00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:48,520 Speaker 1: was a hey, we can't mention that this is a 635 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:53,080 Speaker 1: white male. If that directive went out you want to 636 00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:55,960 Speaker 1: talk about protected class and who's in positions of power. 637 00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:59,800 Speaker 1: When the White House issues a statement that you should 638 00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:03,280 Speaker 1: be praised based on your identity and choices, you are 639 00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:05,640 Speaker 1: not a victim class. You're being protected by the most 640 00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:10,480 Speaker 1: powerful people in the world. Going into the VIP mailbox 641 00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:13,360 Speaker 1: for second, here this is Dave. It writes, this indictment 642 00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:16,919 Speaker 1: shows just how scared the deep state. Fear the deep 643 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:20,319 Speaker 1: state is of Trump. Trump is in his first term, 644 00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:22,879 Speaker 1: or rather sorry, Trump in his first term learned how 645 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:25,879 Speaker 1: extensive the deep state is. If he has a second term, 646 00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:28,759 Speaker 1: he will really drain the swamp. The deep state, this 647 00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:31,400 Speaker 1: includes the mainstream media, will do anything to keep Trump 648 00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:35,759 Speaker 1: out if he wins. I fear for him. Let's Dave 649 00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:37,880 Speaker 1: Wang and Clay what do you do? I got another 650 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:42,080 Speaker 1: one here. I completely disagree with that. I think this 651 00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:45,600 Speaker 1: if they were afraid of Trump, the best thing they 652 00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:48,799 Speaker 1: could do is what they're doing is not what they're 653 00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:51,160 Speaker 1: doing right now, because they're putting him to me. This 654 00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:53,200 Speaker 1: is what it calls him out on all the bs 655 00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:55,600 Speaker 1: about Trump being the biggest threat to the government. If 656 00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:59,440 Speaker 1: you truly thought that Trump was hitler, you wouldn't want 657 00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:02,799 Speaker 1: him to win. The Republican nomination and run against you. Right. 658 00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:06,160 Speaker 1: This this calls them out on their game plan because 659 00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:09,560 Speaker 1: they want Trump because they think Biden is more likely 660 00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:12,200 Speaker 1: to beat him. If you really thought he was pure evil, 661 00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:14,840 Speaker 1: you wouldn't want him in the ring. Just understand this, everybody. 662 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:17,320 Speaker 1: Alvin Bragg, if this goes the way the Democrats wanted 663 00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:19,400 Speaker 1: to runs for governor, I agree with cly on that. 664 00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:22,359 Speaker 1: And he's already thinking about how he could run for president. Yeah, 665 00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:26,960 Speaker 1: think about that for a moment. Here, we've got lar 666 00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:29,240 Speaker 1: rights in Georgia. The governor does not hold the authority 667 00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:32,840 Speaker 1: to commuter pardon. Oh wow, Okay, that authority lies with 668 00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:37,000 Speaker 1: the Georgia State Board of Pardons and Paroles. Good fact check. LR. 669 00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:40,279 Speaker 1: I just every governor I've ever if he's grabbed, every 670 00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:42,759 Speaker 1: governor that I've ever known about, has the right to 671 00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:45,120 Speaker 1: commuter part. And I didn't know that wasn't true in Georgia. 672 00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:47,359 Speaker 1: Learned something new. Yeah, And it may be that the 673 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:50,640 Speaker 1: board puts in front of the governor potential people that 674 00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:53,160 Speaker 1: could be pardoned. Again. I when we got that question, 675 00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:55,120 Speaker 1: I thought it was a fascinating question. I'm not an 676 00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:58,440 Speaker 1: expert in the cotorial parties of Georgia. Yeah, he's This 677 00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:02,160 Speaker 1: audience is and we all say this super on it 678 00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:04,839 Speaker 1: and the knowledge, the knowledge base that we can draw 679 00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:09,160 Speaker 1: upon from all of you is amazing. Georgia is one 680 00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:13,600 Speaker 1: of three states that do not have the ability to 681 00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:16,960 Speaker 1: pardon or grant clemency in the governor's office. I did. 682 00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:20,320 Speaker 1: I was unaware of that. There you go. It's a 683 00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:24,399 Speaker 1: good at both. Let me see. This is also why 684 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:27,080 Speaker 1: I would be anytime you ask a warrior question if 685 00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:29,239 Speaker 1: they know the answer to everything, they're lying. A lot 686 00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:30,680 Speaker 1: of times you ask me a question, I guess say, 687 00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:31,960 Speaker 1: I don't know. I got to look that up. That's 688 00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:35,040 Speaker 1: what most lawyers would say in response to most legal questions. 689 00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:38,200 Speaker 1: And credit for our audience for having the time go 690 00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:41,239 Speaker 1: look that up. It is an intriguing aspect. If there 691 00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:47,360 Speaker 1: are charges brought in Atlanta surrounding the Trump investigation, there well, folks, 692 00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:51,000 Speaker 1: rest stuff this weekend, you know, spend some time with 693 00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:54,799 Speaker 1: loved ones, with friends, read a good book, because next 694 00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:57,439 Speaker 1: week you're gonna be rocking it out with us here 695 00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:04,680 Speaker 1: and it's gonna be crazy. Play Travis and Buck Sexton 696 00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:07,480 Speaker 1: on the front lines of truth