1 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 1: Global business news twenty four hours a day, if Bloomberg 2 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:09,960 Speaker 1: dot com, the Radio plus mobile app and on your radio. 3 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 1: This is a Bloomberg Business Flash from Bloomberg World Headquarters. 4 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 1: I'm Charlie Pelot. Stocks for Laurel little changed. This update 5 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:21,160 Speaker 1: brought to you by National Realty Providers of one percent 6 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:25,320 Speaker 1: satisfaction guaranteed New York City Realty investments. See them at 7 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 1: n r i A dot net. Now let's head right 8 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 1: over to the first Word Breaking news desk for today's 9 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:35,199 Speaker 1: afternoon call, and here's Bill Maloney. Good afternoon, Charlie. Manus 10 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:37,919 Speaker 1: averages are quiet today, with the Dow currently lower by 11 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 1: eighteen points, SEPs are little changed and NAZAC is higher 12 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 1: by seven. The small cap six hundred is also a 13 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 1: little changed, and the US ten nield at one point 14 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:50,480 Speaker 1: five zero percent. Seven out of tennis B sectors are lower, 15 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:53,960 Speaker 1: led by lasses and energy, financials and the utilities, while 16 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 1: technology and materials led to the upside down. Transports rise 17 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 1: ten points and as a by text fall all fifteen 18 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 1: utilities drop three and the VIX is down by three 19 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 1: point four percent. Down Leaders to the downside included Disney 20 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 1: Home Depot and Boeing leaders included Intel, Visa, and Microsoft. 21 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 1: See if industry is pledged as much as fifteen percent, 22 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:18,399 Speaker 1: that's Motion's two thousand and eight after earnings. First Solar 23 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 1: fell well. Harmon gained seven percent after its results, and 24 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:25,400 Speaker 1: some of the names pointing after the belt tonight include 25 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 1: Monster Beverage, Geno Therapeutics, Kraft, Heinns, and Price Line. Live 26 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 1: from the first breaking news ask on Bill Maloney, Charlie 27 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:33,680 Speaker 1: all right, thank you very much, Bill Maloney, and to 28 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 1: hear live breaking news over your Bloomberg Time squawk SQ 29 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 1: you a w K on your terminal. I'm Charlie Pellock. 30 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 1: That's the Bloomberg business flash. This is taking stock. The 31 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 1: Fed in focus on Bloomberg Radio Central Banks in focus. 32 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 1: As we turned to the Bank of England's Hill Mary 33 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 1: policy passes. Our Bloomberg intelligence in team in London puts 34 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 1: it a three wronged easing of monetary conditions. Will it 35 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 1: be enough? Our NEXCU says, depending on what happens with inflation, 36 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 1: Could it be a little bit too much? It's certainly 37 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 1: hit the pound hard today. Joining us now is Carl Weinberg. 38 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 1: He is chief economist Managing director for High Frequency Economics 39 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 1: So Carl, Now that you've had a little more chance 40 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 1: to read through everything that the Bank of England said 41 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 1: its statement, listen to Mark Karney, Uh, think about it. 42 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:30,079 Speaker 1: How big, how important is this move by the Bank 43 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 1: of England today. Well, it's a really substantial program, There's 44 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 1: no doubt about that. So he very clearly saw them 45 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:40,959 Speaker 1: cut down the cost of borrowing, both directly and indirectly 46 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:43,920 Speaker 1: by lowering their bank rate, by setting up a program 47 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 1: to channel funds at the lowest possible cost into banks. 48 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 1: To make sure that those lower interest rates passed through 49 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 1: the economy, we saw purchases of corporate bonds and government 50 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 1: bonds announced. It just doesn't get any more comprehensive than this. 51 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 1: If they wanted to hit the we're hit the nail 52 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 1: on the head with a hammer. They certainly hit it hard. 53 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 1: Did they hit it with a sledgehammer? Does this stuff 54 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 1: actually work? Or does it just create problems that they 55 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 1: can't solve that are even bigger down the road? I 56 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 1: pim Well, you know that's the big question, you know, 57 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 1: down the road. How do we unwind all of this? 58 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 1: That's always the question. But that's not the question for today, 59 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 1: and it's not the question for the next period of time. 60 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 1: When I first read the program this morning, I thought 61 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 1: maybe they had been a little bit too aggressive in 62 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:30,960 Speaker 1: their forecast of marking down their economic growth prospects and 63 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:33,640 Speaker 1: their inflation forecast. I thought, you know, they could have 64 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 1: been a little bit more conservative about that. But then 65 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 1: during the course of the day I've reflected on a 66 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 1: little bit, and I think that maybe this is where 67 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 1: they want to be. They would rather hit it too 68 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 1: hard and then be able to come back, then not 69 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 1: hit it enough and to be seen chasing after an 70 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 1: ever receding target. So I think that they've hit it 71 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 1: overly hard, probably on purpose, and warned us that you know, 72 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 1: there's more to come if necessary, but unspoken as the 73 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 1: fact that if it's not necessary, it doesn't have to 74 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 1: get any bigger than this. Well, Carl, and I guess 75 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 1: that's one of one of the analysies I've read, uh 76 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 1: following the and of course there's lots right everyone's trying 77 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 1: to figure this out, is that that maybe the view 78 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 1: of the economy the Bank oftving express today lowered it 79 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:23,040 Speaker 1: by a good margin but it never turns negative, was 80 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 1: too optimistic, which is one reason they'd have to maybe 81 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 1: cut more in November. But is Mark Kearney's marketing his 82 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 1: team figuring that if we are aggressive now and we 83 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 1: take all these steps, we can avoid that deep of 84 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:39,920 Speaker 1: a slump in the UK economy. Is that why they 85 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 1: didn't downgrade their forecast of the economy even further. Well, 86 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 1: you know, Kathleen, I'm going to answer your question with 87 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 1: a question, and that question is who knows? All right? 88 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 1: We are in uncharted territory as far as the UK 89 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:54,920 Speaker 1: economy is concerned. We don't have a recent historical precedent 90 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:57,040 Speaker 1: to look back on and say, the last time a 91 00:04:57,080 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 1: country west the European Union, this is what happened. You know. 92 00:04:59,839 --> 00:05:01,479 Speaker 1: We don't know what the new terms of business are 93 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 1: going to be. We don't know anything about how the 94 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 1: UK economy is going to look two years from now, 95 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:09,039 Speaker 1: except that it's going to be different. So the Bank 96 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 1: has staked itself out as being a bearer on the subject, 97 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:15,039 Speaker 1: and this of course was very controversial during the campaign. 98 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 1: The Governor was accused of being prejudiced towards the Stay 99 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 1: side and he had to send himself in Parliament on this. 100 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 1: But he is very clearly on the view that this 101 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:26,360 Speaker 1: is a hard hit to the economy, that the risks 102 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 1: are huge, and he's prepared to forecast that those risks 103 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 1: turned into realities, and that's what we saw today. So 104 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 1: this is this is where they are, and they could 105 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:38,920 Speaker 1: very well be right. And I just don't know enough. 106 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:41,600 Speaker 1: I'm not smart enough to figure out in this uncertain 107 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 1: circumstance whether I think they're right or right. I'm just 108 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 1: along for the ride at this point, Carl, I just 109 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 1: want to push a little bit on being along for 110 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:51,720 Speaker 1: this ride. I mean, as we're talking about parallel economies, 111 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 1: because when you talk about low interest rates and bond buying, 112 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:59,919 Speaker 1: that's the financial economy. Revolving credit rates, they remain high. 113 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 1: Down payments for real estate have increased in your lucky 114 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:04,840 Speaker 1: if you can get the mortgage at three and a 115 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:06,720 Speaker 1: half percent, at least in the United States, and we've 116 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 1: got sluggish wage growth in the developing in the developed world, 117 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 1: How is what they're doing actually feeding into the real economy. Yeah, Well, 118 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:17,360 Speaker 1: in the specifics of the UK market right now, mortgage 119 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:20,039 Speaker 1: lending has been the only lending that's been occurring. It's 120 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:22,719 Speaker 1: been actually at a faster rate than they'd like to see. 121 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 1: The real estate market has been through the roof there, 122 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 1: and they've been trying to cool lending. So in a sense, 123 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 1: this is kind of a stop and start and then 124 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 1: start again policy on housing to try to keep it 125 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 1: from collapsing altogether. On their forecast, they're predicting a decline 126 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 1: in house prices. They're predicting almost no economic growth in 127 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 1: the second half of this year. This is a much 128 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:47,920 Speaker 1: more severe circumstance than we've seen before, and you've got 129 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:50,719 Speaker 1: to believe that if that's what that's what's actually going 130 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 1: to happen. Lower interest rates certainly can't hurt and whatever 131 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 1: help they provide would be welcomers. Well, of course, you 132 00:06:57,400 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 1: just mentioned, Carl, the fact that they've got this found 133 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 1: clever corporate lending program and can talk about that more 134 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 1: in a minute. In ten seconds, though, do you see 135 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 1: another rate cut in November? Um, I'm gonna say, I 136 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 1: don't know. Let's go yet to see some real hard 137 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 1: data on how the economy has performed in this post 138 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 1: brexit period. Let's look at some real hard numbers and 139 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 1: then we'll make a judgment. All Right, We've got more 140 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 1: with Carl Weinberg. He is chief economist high Frequency Economics. 141 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 1: You can follow him on Twitter at c B Weinberg. 142 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 1: We've got more on the Bank of England's rate decision, 143 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 1: the European Central Bank and negative interest rates in the 144 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 1: future of the global economy. This is taking Stock. I'm 145 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 1: Pim Fox, my co host Kathleen Hayes. This is Bloomberg. 146 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 1: Bank of England Governor Mark Karney said he is against 147 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 1: negative interest rates. He doesn't like the idea of helicopter money. 148 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 1: But as he decides to buy more bonds in the UK, 149 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 1: is that where he's heading. That's next on taking Stock 150 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 1: broadcasting live to New York, Bloomberg eleven, Rio to Washington, 151 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 1: d C. Bloomberg to Boston, Bloomberg twelve to San Francisco, 152 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 1: Bloomberg nine to the country, SIS at jam General one 153 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 1: nineteen and around the globe the Bloomberg Radio Plus happened. 154 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 1: Bloomberg got gone. This is taking Stock. I'm Kathleen Hayes 155 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 1: along with him Fox. The Bank of England cutting its 156 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 1: key rate, getting ready to buy more bonds. Most of 157 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 1: the world is heading in the direction of more stimulus. 158 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:37,199 Speaker 1: Can the Federal Reserve resist? And are there some signals 159 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 1: some negative signals about the entire global economy With all 160 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 1: these central banks. On the March, We're going to continue 161 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:47,079 Speaker 1: our conversation with Karl Weinberger of High Frequency Economics. Right now, 162 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 1: let's go to Charlie Kellett in the Bloomberg news room 163 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 1: for Bloomberg Business Flag and I thank you Phim, thank 164 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 1: you Kathleen. On mixed picture for stocks right now, little change, 165 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 1: that is the takeaway here. We've got the down industrials 166 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 1: down eleven points eighteen pounds than three hundred forty three, 167 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:04,560 Speaker 1: a drop there of less than point one percent, SMP 168 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 1: five hundred index unchanged, and nastack is up seven to 169 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 1: fifty one sixty seven, a game there of two tenths 170 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:15,559 Speaker 1: of one percent. Mixed corporate earnings offering little direction. Fertilizer 171 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 1: maker CF Industries seeing its steepest drop since January after 172 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 1: its results miss analyst predictions. Shares of CF they are 173 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 1: down now by twelve point three two percent. MetLife tumbling 174 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 1: nine point one percent after its quarterly profit disappointed Bank 175 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:36,319 Speaker 1: of England Governor Mark Carney unveiling an exceptional package of stimulus, 176 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:40,199 Speaker 1: including the Bank's first interest rate cut in seven years. 177 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 1: Those policy makers slash growth forecast by the most ever 178 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:46,839 Speaker 1: after Britain's decision to leave the European Union, and of 179 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:50,480 Speaker 1: the news conference, Carney took questions on a number of topics, 180 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:54,320 Speaker 1: including last June's Brexit vote. There is a great degree 181 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 1: of uncertainty. It's entirely understandable that there is there's uncertainty 182 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 1: about the eventual model that we will have at the 183 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:03,440 Speaker 1: European Union. There are number of options on the table 184 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 1: um whichever model has chosen itself will require some degree 185 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 1: of adjustment in the economy and that brings its own 186 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 1: effects on growth and uh end productivity for a period 187 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:17,200 Speaker 1: of time. And whilst we gets the all important July 188 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 1: jobs are the August jobs numbered, July jobs number tomorrow morning. 189 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:24,960 Speaker 1: Today we got jobless claims. The number of Americans filing 190 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:28,559 Speaker 1: applications for unemployment benefits rose last week to a level 191 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 1: that's still under scores health in the labor market. Claims 192 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 1: up by three thousand, two hundred sixty nine thousand, ten year, 193 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 1: up eleven thirty seconds, yield one point five percent, Gold 194 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:41,679 Speaker 1: up two tenths of one percent. And now let's take 195 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 1: a look at other stories making news. Thank you Charlie 196 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:48,600 Speaker 1: from the Bloomberg News room. I'm Jill Schneider. 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London police 213 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 1: say a nineteen year old man is in custody after 214 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:44,680 Speaker 1: a knife attack last night that left one woman dead, 215 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 1: although police say at this point there is nothing linking 216 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 1: the suspect to terrorism. This local resident says it's something 217 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:53,200 Speaker 1: that's always on her mind. It's living in London, especially 218 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:55,320 Speaker 1: in central London. There's always that thing, kind of thing 219 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:58,079 Speaker 1: in the back of your mind, you know, you live 220 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 1: with terror is. 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I'm Jil Schneider and this is Bloomberg, Charlie, 229 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:33,200 Speaker 1: and we thank you and again recapping little change for 230 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:36,080 Speaker 1: US equities twenty six minutes to go ahead of the close. 231 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 1: We've got the SMP five D indecks down by less 232 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 1: than half a point. I'm Charlie Paloton Pats of Bloombird 233 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:47,319 Speaker 1: Business Flash. This is taking stock the FED in focus 234 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:52,319 Speaker 1: on Bloomberg Radio. We can't heer our conversation. Now. I'm 235 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 1: taking a look at the Bank of England, what they did, 236 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:56,600 Speaker 1: what they said, and what is going to happen next. 237 00:12:56,679 --> 00:13:00,199 Speaker 1: Carl Weinbergger's ar guests chief economist, Managing director for High 238 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 1: Frequency Economics. You know, Carl PM was just raising the 239 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 1: question about will this work? You know you're gonna buy bonds, 240 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:11,720 Speaker 1: and I think it's interesting to ponder a point that 241 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 1: our Bloomberg intelligence team made about the bond buying, which is, 242 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 1: you know you're sending a signal it's going to be stimulus, 243 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 1: and that along with the bond buying getting yields down 244 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 1: on on borrowing costs, right and along with this targeted 245 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:27,840 Speaker 1: corporate bond buying program where they're really going to try 246 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:31,720 Speaker 1: to funnel money to real UK businesses right that that 247 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:34,840 Speaker 1: they're trying to hit this whole question of the impact 248 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 1: of uncertainty, which has been a big hit to their 249 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:41,560 Speaker 1: economy already by making sure that businesses can really get 250 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:43,679 Speaker 1: money and really do stuff. Is this is this a 251 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 1: clever step by the Bank afy And do you think 252 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 1: of potentially more effective than some other things central banks 253 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 1: have done well? I think it's certainly what they hope 254 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:53,319 Speaker 1: to do, Kathleen, and certainly lending to businesses has been 255 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 1: a store point. We've seen credit overall in the UK 256 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:59,840 Speaker 1: go from contraction to a very tepid rate of increase 257 00:13:59,880 --> 00:14:03,079 Speaker 1: in the last few monthly reports, but lending the businesses 258 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:06,199 Speaker 1: remains flat at best. Most of the lending has been 259 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 1: to consumers and for mortgages. So businesses do need more 260 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 1: credit and they'll need it more than ever in this 261 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 1: uncertain period in the UK, starting as they did with 262 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 1: yields a little higher than they have been recently in Europe. Uh, 263 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 1: there's certainly a case to be made that long term 264 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 1: interest rates and borrowing costs and the cost of bancredit 265 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:31,239 Speaker 1: can be made cheaper to advantage to bring the economy 266 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 1: up a little bit at a faster pace of growth. 267 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 1: You know, of course, ten year yields are only sixty 268 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 1: four basis points, so you can only get so much 269 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 1: out of buying, you know, more sovereign bonds and bringing 270 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 1: down the yield curve. As far as corporate bonds are concerned, 271 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 1: I personally have a problem with this. It doesn't stop 272 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 1: the Bank of England or the ECB from doing it. 273 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 1: But I view corporate bond purchases as more microeconomic policy 274 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 1: and tinkering with the price of risk, rather than macroeconomic policy, 275 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 1: which is what happens when they by a sovereign bond 276 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 1: and bring down all interest rates. But that's my problem, 277 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 1: not theres They clearly think that lower corporate yields relative 278 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 1: to sovereigns are going to help, and more power to them, 279 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 1: Carl Weinberke. If you take a look at commodity prices, 280 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 1: corn down to about twenty one month lows, wheat hitting 281 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 1: a nine year low, soybeans down ten percent from June, 282 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 1: down from the peak, agricultural prices falling, crude trading it 283 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 1: around forty one about right now, just up about two 284 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 1: and a quarter percent. Are we going to experience an 285 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 1: economic downturn as a result of these easy money policies? 286 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:42,680 Speaker 1: Okammy is stealing my my report to clients over tonight's 287 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 1: report and the one that they'll be getting over the weekend. 288 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 1: At High Frequency Economics, we are writing about a global 289 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 1: economic downturn. We've been writing about it for a long time, 290 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 1: and following commodity prices certainly impoverished big parts of the 291 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 1: world economy. I view the decline in world trade is 292 00:15:57,720 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 1: being directly linked to the drop and come moodity prices, 293 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 1: which makes commodity producers poorer and means they import less 294 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 1: stuff from US, which means US exports are a week 295 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 1: part of the US outlook. And we've been linking that 296 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 1: drop in world trade to an expected slow down impossible 297 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 1: contraction of the world economy for a long time. Right now, 298 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 1: I track seven central banks and all of them are 299 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 1: now easy now have easy monetary conditions, including the FED 300 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 1: which is not tightening uh and including d c B 301 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 1: which is easing monetary conditions like MAD, the Bank of 302 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 1: Japan which is using conditions like ultramad, the BIKE, the 303 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 1: Bank of Reserve, Bank of Australia, which just cut interest 304 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 1: rates this week, the Canadians who cut interest rates in 305 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 1: recent months. All the central banks are doing the same thing. 306 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 1: They're going full out toward easing, and they're marking down 307 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 1: their forecast every time they do a new forecast exercise 308 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 1: to predict even slower and slower growth. I can't help 309 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 1: but feel that they're telling us what we should be 310 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 1: seeing in the world right now, which is a coordinated 311 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 1: slow down in many parts of the world economy at 312 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:04,480 Speaker 1: the same time, and a possible contraction in a lot 313 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:07,479 Speaker 1: of places. It's not good carny chance that it's oh 314 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:10,200 Speaker 1: the balls now and the fiscal court of the UK, 315 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:13,679 Speaker 1: of the Fed of Japan, every country supposedly the fiscal 316 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:15,399 Speaker 1: guy's got to carry the ball. Now. Is that going 317 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:18,119 Speaker 1: to happen? Well, the ball. That's been what the central 318 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:20,240 Speaker 1: bankers have been saying for a while. We know Mario 319 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:23,240 Speaker 1: drag said it explicitly. We know that the I m 320 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 1: F is called for more fiscal stimulus. Whether it's going 321 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 1: to happen or not, you know, that's a political decision. 322 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 1: The economics of it, though, in my view are compelling. 323 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:36,919 Speaker 1: This is not the time for austerity. And while in 324 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:40,920 Speaker 1: some places like Japan, fiscal policy is misplaced. They're they're 325 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:44,240 Speaker 1: trying to fight a demographic challenge that can't be overcome 326 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:47,399 Speaker 1: by any economic policy. But certainly the case of Europe, 327 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:50,360 Speaker 1: Europe needs a kickstart, and fiscal policy is the way 328 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 1: to do it. In many countries in Europe have the 329 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:55,680 Speaker 1: fiscal space to make that happen. The UK has committed 330 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:58,679 Speaker 1: to fiscal stimulus, that's a good side. The Canadians have 331 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 1: committed to fiscal stimulut us. That's a good time the US. 332 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:04,159 Speaker 1: We're not going to see any fiscal stimulus here for 333 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 1: quite a while. I'm pretty sure of that, just looking 334 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:10,320 Speaker 1: at the politics of UH in Washington and the prospects 335 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:13,639 Speaker 1: will come out of the upcoming election. UM and UH 336 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 1: so who's left, you know, So it's a mixed bag. 337 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 1: Some people are moving in that direction. I wish we 338 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 1: would see more, but realistically, I don't think the biggest 339 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 1: players are going to be at the table for that game. 340 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:29,720 Speaker 1: Carl Weinberg, thank you very much, Chief Economist high Frequency Economics. 341 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:33,359 Speaker 1: You can follow Carl Weinberg on Twitter at c B 342 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 1: Weinberg giving us his thoughts on the Bank of England's 343 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:43,480 Speaker 1: rate decision and the potential turned down in the global economy. 344 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 1: Looking for fiscal stimulus, that's what Carl Weinberg says might 345 00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:51,720 Speaker 1: actually be needed. This is taking Stockheim pim Fox My 346 00:18:51,840 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 1: co host Kathleen Hayes, this is Bloomberg Central banks around 347 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 1: the world trying to boost their economies. That fed dragging 348 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:06,760 Speaker 1: its feet on a raid hike. But what about companies? 349 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 1: What about their profits? What about their earnings? Jack Rivken 350 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:13,119 Speaker 1: from Altegris coming up next on Bloomberg Radio