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Speaker 1: from twelve days off. It ended up being thirteen, although
Speaker 1: I didn't want it to be. I wanted to be
Speaker 1: back for the Monday show. But you know it's funny
Speaker 1: when you live out West Arizona, Ore again California. You know,
Speaker 1: if it's sunny out then your flight will not be delayed.
Speaker 1: But in the east coast, the entire state, Rhode Island
Speaker 1: can be perfect. But because of a lightning storm in Columbus,
Speaker 1: Ohio or Dayton, it sets northeast travel on its ass.
Speaker 1: And so yesterday, after about five hours, I finally left
Speaker 1: the airport and rebooked my flight. I rebooked three flights
Speaker 1: for today Monday, so I could get back for Tuesday show.
Speaker 1: One already got delayed two hours. I was on the
Speaker 1: one that didn't. So I'm here in Chicago. I'm good.
Speaker 1: But I golfed. I had cocktails, I did four mile
Speaker 1: walks in the beach and lifted weights. What did you
Speaker 1: do middle coffee? I saw, yeah, did you shoot seventy six?
Speaker 1: I saw it Twitter? That was the goal? No, but no,
Speaker 1: But I will say it's the best round of golf
Speaker 1: I've played in ten years. So I have a new driver,
Speaker 1: and I hit seven out of my last eight drives
Speaker 1: fair way two fifty plus I felt great, played the
Speaker 1: best golf I have in a long time.
Speaker 2: And what clubs are in Collins Back? Like what would
Speaker 2: would brand funny?
Speaker 1: Everybody makes everybody makes fun I got some tailor maids,
Speaker 1: but I only have a driver, a three wood, a
Speaker 1: five wood, a putter fifty four and forty eight wedges
Speaker 1: pitching wedge nine eight, seven six. That's it to all
Speaker 1: the clubs I have, I don't have any. Uh, that's it.
Speaker 1: I don't have you know, your your two year, three
Speaker 1: or four five irons. I can't hit them, and so
Speaker 1: I probably need like what do they call those?
Speaker 2: Yeah, say to do what Freddy Couples is doing and
Speaker 2: go with the hybrids and the rescues he has. He
Speaker 2: basically has high and rescues to like seven iron. He's like,
Speaker 2: what's yeah, I'm old bad back. Hit these great. They're
Speaker 2: the easiest club ever invented. I mean the equipment in
Speaker 2: golf when I was a kid and I learned how
Speaker 2: to play golf in the nineties, like football has always
Speaker 2: kind of be in the same Baseball, they're using the
Speaker 2: same bats as Barry Bonds used, right, maybe the weight
Speaker 2: it's a little different.
Speaker 1: The equipment in golf I.
Speaker 2: Would say, unlike any sport that's on television, is the
Speaker 2: most dramatically different than it was. I mean when Tiger
Speaker 2: came out, if you watch highlights in the mid to
Speaker 2: late nineties, him and Phil, they are playing clubs that
Speaker 2: just simply not only not exist. There's not enough money
Speaker 2: to pay Rory McElroy, guy like that to even entertain
Speaker 2: playing that. So which, in fairness, you know, golf was
Speaker 2: really hard up until the last fifteen years. You know,
Speaker 2: you had to be to get decent, you had to
Speaker 2: be really good and took a lot of time. The
Speaker 2: equipment now has made the game much more enjoyable and
Speaker 2: much more playable because most people don't aren't playing three
Speaker 2: four times a week. So if you're playing once a
Speaker 2: week or in the summers, it's much easier to play
Speaker 2: because the equipment.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm going to get I'm going to get a
Speaker 1: Rescue seven and a Rescue five. That's what everybody keeps saying,
Speaker 1: you got you got to get a Rescue seven club.
Speaker 1: But I played two of my favorite clubs in the
Speaker 1: country and Rhode Island. Rhode Island's an amazing state for
Speaker 1: people who haven't gone there. It's got two or three
Speaker 1: of my favorite towns in the country beach towns, Newport,
Speaker 1: Watch Hill, Narra, Gansett. It's just for a tiny state.
Speaker 1: Providence is just got the best airport in the country,
Speaker 1: number one airport according to Travel and Leisure magazine. So
Speaker 1: it's just where I hang out in the summer. Rhode
Speaker 1: Island is so much fun. I got to get you
Speaker 1: and your wife out there. You will. I'm telling you,
Speaker 1: you'll go there and you won't believe it. I tell
Speaker 1: West Coast people, you just got to go there for
Speaker 1: about a six day stretch. I'm inviting a bunch of
Speaker 1: buddies out in August and andre I said, just bring cigars.
Speaker 1: I'll take care of the rest. Have you ever been
Speaker 1: to Lake tal many times? Love it. Yeah.
Speaker 2: We spent the last probably ten days and Incline, which
Speaker 2: is a Nevada side. You know, essentially it's the opposite
Speaker 2: end of where they just had the golf tournament, which
Speaker 2: is also Edgewood, which is Nevada.
Speaker 1: It's hard to beat. I mean, you you can just
Speaker 1: sit on a lake have cocktails, you know. The thing
Speaker 1: that it kind of brings you back to.
Speaker 2: It's a small lake town now it's grown, but it
Speaker 2: is the pace of life is a lot different than
Speaker 2: what I get when I was living in the Bay Area.
Speaker 2: Now in Scottsdale, there are not many restaurants.
Speaker 1: They just relax.
Speaker 2: You sit on the water. Everyone is moving a little slower.
Speaker 2: The door dash, things like that do not exist. People
Speaker 2: get very very uncomfortable about Airbnb's I mean, that was
Speaker 2: something that really kind of took over, and there's been
Speaker 2: a lot of pushback, which I do think there's a
Speaker 2: balance that I kind of agree with that kind of
Speaker 2: takes over the novelty of everything. But one thing you've
Speaker 2: seen with these quarterbacks and essentially that golf tournament. I
Speaker 2: remember growing up and it was like Wayne Gretzky, John Elway.
Speaker 2: It has become so popular that I saw Josh Josh
Speaker 2: Allen and Charles both said that I know so many
Speaker 2: people that were denied because it essentially has become an
Speaker 2: NFL event with Steph Curry being the headliner, and these
Speaker 2: guys think about a lot of them. You know, Baker
Speaker 2: Mayfield's from Texas went to Oklahoma. Plays in Tampa. You
Speaker 2: had Mahomes, Texas guy plays. They come here for the
Speaker 2: the Kelsey Brothers and they're like this place is heaven
Speaker 2: on Earth. I can bring my family. Oh there's also
Speaker 2: gambling and boozing and hanging out. It's chill, and they
Speaker 2: go back every single year. Charles has been back every
Speaker 2: single year for thirty five years. Think about that now, listen.
Speaker 2: I told my wife.
Speaker 1: You know, my wife's a designer and she's really clever,
Speaker 1: and we have a backyard and I told her, I said,
Speaker 1: and I've told my kids this. One time we were skiing
Speaker 1: in Deer Valley and I told my son Jackson. I said, Jackson,
Speaker 1: this is when people fly to Switzerland under Austria. It
Speaker 1: can't be much more beautiful than Deer Valley, Utah on
Speaker 1: a sunny day where I can see the state where
Speaker 1: I'm nine thousand to eleven thousand feet and I feel
Speaker 1: that way. My wife, she has this pool in the
Speaker 1: back and I took a picture of it and I said,
Speaker 1: if you set this to a friend. I showed it
Speaker 1: to her what you did back here and said, we're
Speaker 1: in Tuscany right now, and you know, like in a vineyard,
Speaker 1: you would have no idea the way the coloring. It
Speaker 1: looks so Italian. And I said this before when I
Speaker 1: used to go to Lake Tahoe. Maybe it's not Lake
Speaker 1: Como in Italy. Maybe it doesn't have that many high
Speaker 1: end hotels, but there are places when you're there are
Speaker 1: times I have been in parts of Lake Tahoe. It
Speaker 1: is as beautiful as North America gets. Canada's got some
Speaker 1: lakes too that are just stunning.
Speaker 2: The day before we left, we just rented some paddle boards,
Speaker 2: which is actually an underrated, difficult activity if there are
Speaker 2: some wakes to stand up, so we basically just on
Speaker 2: our knees and going, and you go pretty far out
Speaker 2: and you just look at this lake and we just
Speaker 2: sat there for hours and when it doesn't get Now,
Speaker 2: I've been going there most of my life, but I
Speaker 2: got lucky. I was born two hours away. Right If
Speaker 2: I had been born in Seattle or Texas, I wouldn't
Speaker 2: have known. I've been going there for so long because
Speaker 2: where I was in Davis, it's our forty five minute drive,
Speaker 2: and I grew up what I learned to ski. My
Speaker 2: first time ever skiing was at Squaw Valley, host of
Speaker 2: the Olympics. Like you said, there's just you know, veil.
Speaker 2: There might be some places in the world that are better,
Speaker 2: not that many. It's on the short list of Heavenly
Speaker 2: and Squaw Valley are about as good as it gets.
Speaker 1: When it comes to skiing, and the dollar right now
Speaker 1: is so weak that European travels about thirty percent more
Speaker 1: expensive than you want it to be, and the flights
Speaker 1: are brutal. So I think sometimes, you know, people, I
Speaker 1: got the travel bug about ten years ago, the European
Speaker 1: travel bug, and you do feel like, you know, if
Speaker 1: you're not doing it, you feel like, oh, I'm missing out.
Speaker 1: And I love going and I went again this year
Speaker 1: with my son, but there are so you know, I
Speaker 1: say this all the time to my wife, is there
Speaker 1: are so many places in this country that are just
Speaker 1: absolutely stunning. And I mean I tell people Newport, Rhode Island. Man,
Speaker 1: there's some hotels there that are just on the way
Speaker 1: at a rondack chairs it is. It's as good as
Speaker 1: anything in Europe.
Speaker 2: Do you at this point in time in your career,
Speaker 2: because I really struggle with this, and obviously I'm in
Speaker 2: a way different time. But I can go, especially this
Speaker 2: time of year there's nothing going on, but I go
Speaker 2: about four or five days. I feel like kind of
Speaker 2: obligated to record, you know. It's like I have to
Speaker 2: hear like, I are you pretty comfortable now going a
Speaker 2: couple weeks.
Speaker 1: I mean, this time of year is unique, but this
Speaker 1: is my longest break. I do a twelve to thirteen
Speaker 1: day break every year. This time I just finished it
Speaker 1: and then I'll take two more weeks off dead of summer.
Speaker 1: Fox is really cool about that. They understand nobody. You know,
Speaker 1: once Sean McVay stopped playing starters in the preseason, he
Speaker 1: killed the preseason. Yeah, it used to be August. I
Speaker 1: look forward to starters played week three. Now you've got
Speaker 1: three games. Nobody plays. It's a job. It's a I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm hoping Shador Sanders has a good camp, so that
Speaker 1: can be a story. There's just nothing to talk about.
Speaker 1: And by the way, because the NFL season is being extended,
Speaker 1: mid February to mid March used to be awful. Now
Speaker 1: it's not. Free agency in the NFL's exploded. The seasons
Speaker 1: longer now, so there used to be a dead period
Speaker 1: after football that was like three weeks long to a month.
Speaker 1: Now it's maybe ten days. Take a vacation, go in
Speaker 1: the sun, come back and it's great. The dead time
Speaker 1: for us is July and early August. There's about a
Speaker 1: five week stretch. And by the way, you'll notice this
Speaker 1: for your local radio shows or other follows. I mean
Speaker 1: I don't follow them, but I saw where one of
Speaker 1: the hosts I forget who it was, Dan Patrick, took
Speaker 1: his show to Tahoe, and I thought, oh, that's smart.
Speaker 1: Like that, that's content. It's hard. I think I have been.
Speaker 1: It kind of hit me this year, and that might
Speaker 1: be a plan next year. I mean, they're all there.
Speaker 2: One thing I saw Dan say this is the Combine
Speaker 2: is a lot like this. Everyone's in a good mood.
Speaker 2: There's no pressure. And he said, unlike the super Bowl,
Speaker 2: which I like. You know, one thing that's cool about
Speaker 2: what we do here is you understand the super Bowl
Speaker 2: can be shit. It's not a great environment for content
Speaker 2: because everyone's selling something. They're in and out. It's not
Speaker 2: great interviews despite the big names. But the Combine, everyone's
Speaker 2: in a good mood. And in that event, unlike the Combine,
Speaker 2: it's not just coaches, it's the athletes, but they're not
Speaker 2: Baker Mayfield's not there because of State Farm, right, you know,
Speaker 2: Josh Allen is just there with his buddies hanging out.
Speaker 2: He's in a great, He'll give you twenty minutes to
Speaker 2: just talk some shops. So I it's a really really
Speaker 2: I'm telling you that thing has become an NFL event.
Speaker 2: One one theory I have. Obviously, the NFL is separated
Speaker 2: from a lot of different people. But when I was
Speaker 2: on your show, Patino had this comment, He's like, twenty
Speaker 2: thirty years ago, college basketball, college football, the NFL and
Speaker 2: the NBA were close to being equals. When I was
Speaker 2: a kid, Michael Jordan was. I grew up in forty
Speaker 2: nine or territory. Michael Jordan was every bit as big
Speaker 2: as the forty nine Ers dynasty. He was huge, and
Speaker 2: that this is northern California, and even Patino's like, the
Speaker 2: separation has been huge. I do think there's a relatability
Speaker 2: to these players, like you just you turn on that
Speaker 2: event and it's Jason Kelsey, George Kittle slam beers with
Speaker 2: twenty five year old frack guys, and that the NBA,
Speaker 2: the Oklahoma City Thunder they win the championship. Half of
Speaker 2: them had never drank a beer before. It's like, you know,
Speaker 2: it's it's hard for the consumer to quite relate. Like
Speaker 2: I grew up on Michael Jordan, he drinks. Charles Barkley
Speaker 2: been drinking for forty There's just a relatable quality that
Speaker 2: I think football still really has, and I think it's
Speaker 2: on full display when some of their biggest stars now
Speaker 2: the one guy kind of getting make fun of. I'm
Speaker 2: sure you saw some of the clips was Rogers, the
Speaker 2: way he was acting. But everyone else is just hanging
Speaker 2: out with the people. It's a very accessible event, and
Speaker 2: basketball has almost become the NBA specifically, like Hollywood averturs
Speaker 2: or something like they're untouchable. You know, we're football. George
Speaker 2: Kittle could just you could just be playing poker with
Speaker 2: them at the Harris in Nevada.
Speaker 1: When I go to UFC fights in the summer, I
Speaker 1: will see George Kittle, Max Crosby, Christian McCaffrey, Kyler, Murray Burrow,
Speaker 1: Joe Burl and they come up to me. Because I
Speaker 1: never want to bother when I see athletes, I never
Speaker 1: want to bother them. Max Crosby i'd go up to
Speaker 1: because Max and I are friends and so, and I
Speaker 1: really love Max and I it's just rich of his stories,
Speaker 1: totally redeemable human being. But most of these guys, I stay,
Speaker 1: you know, I don't want to bother them. They'll come
Speaker 1: up to you. They're in T shirts. McCaffrey is arguably,
Speaker 1: after Walter Payton, the greatest running back in league history.
Speaker 1: He's got a T shirt. Did I ever tell you
Speaker 1: my Christian McCaffrey story where he came up to me?
Speaker 1: It was a dark media room UFC. He came up.
Speaker 1: I didn't recognize him. He had a cap on a
Speaker 1: T shirt, and I'm like, hey, hey, my and was
Speaker 1: with me. They put his face on the screen and
Speaker 1: the crowd goes nuts. She goes, you totally diss that guy.
Speaker 1: You have to go find him and apologize. I mean,
Speaker 1: she was on me. So I go back in and
Speaker 1: I see him, and I'm like, dude, there's a thousand
Speaker 1: people in here. You had your hat over. He just
Speaker 1: he thought it was so he had such a good sport.
Speaker 1: He just laughed, he thought. And I know his dad
Speaker 1: and pretty well so so I mean it was just
Speaker 1: But to your point, I do think there's a relatability
Speaker 1: with football players. Also, NBA players frankly are physically I mean,
Speaker 1: Aaron Donald doesn't look like any of your friends. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but you could take you could take Teddy Bruce Key
Speaker 1: so great football player Rodney Harrison. If you have a
Speaker 1: buddy that works out, they don't look that different than
Speaker 1: those guys. Football players do not look as big as
Speaker 1: half the guys in Gold gym. They're athletes. They don't
Speaker 1: want to be so yoked up they can't move so
Speaker 1: an NBA guy, I remember years ago going to the
Speaker 1: SP's like fifteen years ago, and I'm sitting there at
Speaker 1: the time with Michelle Beatles on the stage and Amari
Speaker 1: Stodameyer walked in.
Speaker 3: I'm like, how did that guy get ADUs? I mean,
Speaker 3: you know, he's just physically. NBA players are just different.
Speaker 3: They're seven to one. I've never met anybody in mine
Speaker 3: life that was over six', eight you, Know like it's
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Speaker 1: Audio, Hey SO i saw something AND i wanted to
Speaker 1: talk about. This SO espn the survey of, executives coaches,
Speaker 1: scouts and it came out their top ten, quarterbacks AND
Speaker 1: i was on the. Plane reading this, today AND i,
Speaker 1: thought that's about as close is any top ten quarterback
Speaker 1: List i've ever. Seen it Goes, Mahomes Alan, Burrow Lamar, Jaden,
Speaker 1: Stafford Herbert. Goff i've always thought golf because he's not,
Speaker 1: dynamic he's not fun to root. For the guy was
Speaker 1: a number one pick out Of, cow he got to
Speaker 1: A Super. Bowl i've seen him Outdo mahomes in big.
Speaker 1: Games he's. Good then they Go hurts nine And baker.
Speaker 1: Ten AND i thought, people WHEN i say, this that's
Speaker 1: about as good a list As i've, seen people would,
Speaker 1: say oh what About. Baker, WELL i Got baker IF
Speaker 1: i did a list closer to ten than. Fifteen, NOW
Speaker 1: i think over after last, YEAR i THINK i kind
Speaker 1: of scratched down a list on the plane THAT i
Speaker 1: had him at like. Twelve But i'm not bothered at
Speaker 1: all That. BAKER i Think baker And darnold are both
Speaker 1: in that ten eleven twelve. Space i'm totally comfortable with.
Speaker 2: Both i'd Say baker now is two straight years and
Speaker 2: he has that second year In, cleveland and just looking
Speaker 2: at him on the golf, course sin it's been talked
Speaker 2: about he's definitely lost. Weight he looks, fantastic and there
Speaker 2: is an, element there's A farvian element if you remember
Speaker 2: When dorsey took him number one, overall the intangible kind
Speaker 2: of THE i would say this, though for what Makes
Speaker 2: jalen kind of? Unique and the arguments Over jalen are
Speaker 2: such a waste of. Time like he won literally won
Speaker 2: The Super, Bowl Super BOWL, mvp AND i looked at his.
Speaker 2: Contract by the end of like twenty twenty, seven he
Speaker 2: will accumulated two hundred million dollars playing football on the.
Speaker 1: Field i'm sure he's making.
Speaker 2: Mine he. Won we could argue till we're blue in
Speaker 2: the face once he won The Super, bowl like he's
Speaker 2: got an element that. GOLF i, mean, Hell, Lamar Josh.
Speaker 2: Allen some of these are still. CHASING i think the top.
Speaker 2: Four you, Know mahomes hasn't played as well in the
Speaker 2: regular season as those other three guys the last couple of,
Speaker 2: years but we have full faith in him and the
Speaker 2: biggest moments to get it, done and he.
Speaker 1: Has the top four is just.
Speaker 2: Set if you want to Argue burrow, Second Josh allen,
Speaker 2: SECOND i don't, care but Like mahomes is, one then
Speaker 2: you can argue the ranking of the next. THREE i
Speaker 2: think what Makes stafford unique if all the teams were,
Speaker 2: equal like everyone have the same team in a one game,
Speaker 2: situation in a month, situation he could.
Speaker 1: Out due to anyone and go to toe to toe with.
Speaker 2: Anybody Where Jared, goff IF i told you your offensive
Speaker 2: line had a lot of question, marks you would like
Speaker 2: A Jalen hurts Even baker more Than.
Speaker 1: God, YEAH i mean he can't.
Speaker 2: Move he's on the team with the best offensive line
Speaker 2: in the, league so it's you, know he benefits from.
Speaker 2: That and that's WHERE i, think you, Know Jayden, DANIELS
Speaker 2: i would have C. J stroud is like the fifth
Speaker 2: or sixth best quarterback last, year and if he's an
Speaker 2: honorable mention in that, Thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah SO i THOUGHT i may HAVE. Cj stroud ten
Speaker 1: And baker. Eleven that felt about. RIGHT i Like. KYLER
Speaker 1: i still Like Kyler, murray So i'm in the minority.
Speaker 1: HERE i think he's elusive AND i think he throws
Speaker 1: a great.
Speaker 2: Ball BUT i Think CJ's story kind of speaks To Jayden.
Speaker 2: DANIELS i would Say jaden as a, rookie it's not
Speaker 2: apples d, apples but was better THAN.
Speaker 1: Cj just the eye.
Speaker 2: Test you, know, numbers we could, argue but Just jaden
Speaker 2: is about as good as it. Gets but they did
Speaker 2: get to kind of fly under the radar most of
Speaker 2: the season until the. Playoffs it's you know what Makes Brady,
Speaker 2: Peyton Tiger, Woods Aaron, judge? Whoever great? Players is every single,
Speaker 2: year every single. Game Aaron donald for. Decade everyone circled
Speaker 2: him all week long and he's still. Dominated Reggie, White Lawrence.
Speaker 2: Taylor it's, like you, Know Patrick, Mahomes Lamar, Jackson Josh
Speaker 2: allen have been keeping defensive coordinators up at night for
Speaker 2: a long time and they still kick. Ass same With
Speaker 2: Joe burrow last, year, right you, Know Jayden, daniels this
Speaker 2: is going everyone's gonna take them. Seriously so WHY i
Speaker 2: got a lot of respect For Dan campbell and The.
Speaker 2: Lions like early on it's, like, okay you gotta the
Speaker 2: last couple of, years like everyone has been approaching them
Speaker 2: like one of the best teams in the, league and
Speaker 2: they've answered the. Bell same With jared you, know we'll
Speaker 2: See Jayden daniels like no one is sleeping on you this.
Speaker 2: Year that's from the shittiest team to when you're playing the,
Speaker 2: packers the. Vikings that's. Hard you, know.
Speaker 1: Well Even baseball figured it out with, analytics is that
Speaker 1: they don't want to starter facing a batter for the third, time,
Speaker 1: Right so you go through the order twice and then
Speaker 1: by the time you're gonna Face so what they're telling,
Speaker 1: you even starting, pitchers even, aces they want to they
Speaker 1: want you out of. There but the third time because
Speaker 1: a guy after a third groove on you gets a.
Speaker 1: Vibe because a lot of pictures get. Better you know
Speaker 1: verlandro And wayinwright in their. PRIME i Thought Nolan ryan
Speaker 1: was better fifth inning. On can you imagine Pulling nolan
Speaker 1: out with a one hitter in the? Sixth you do
Speaker 1: A Robin ventura on. You but the reality is there
Speaker 1: is truth to what you're. Saying is it is very
Speaker 1: hard in the middle of the, marathon when you're on
Speaker 1: the treadmill to break Down Jade daniels over the course
Speaker 1: of two days on a couch in an office sleeping
Speaker 1: and say this is the, solution this is the. Kryptonite
Speaker 1: when you give guys an off seats and these defensive
Speaker 1: coordinators they find, Play they go through all the analytics
Speaker 1: and find out he doesn't see to his right as
Speaker 1: well as his. Left he's more. Accurate SO i do
Speaker 1: think he was. Miraculous But i'll also make this, argument
Speaker 1: IF i told you you Combine Lamar jackson And Joe,
Speaker 1: burrow that's WHAT i Thought Jaden daniels. WAS i thought he.
Speaker 1: WAS i, Mean burrow to, me is even better Than.
Speaker 1: Mahomes if you told me two minute, drill a minute fifty.
Speaker 5: Left no timeouts left and protection is, OKAY i Think
Speaker 5: burrow's as good as Anybody i've ever seen in the
Speaker 5: last ten.
Speaker 1: Years, Now mahomes gets all the credit Because mahomes you.
Speaker 2: Give Him chase And. Higgins mahomes numbers look a lot. Different,
Speaker 2: Right you're, Right you're, right that's. Fair BUT i Think
Speaker 2: burrow's ability on third, down third and seven sit in the, little,
Speaker 2: tiny weird. Windows you're, like what in the. Hell AND
Speaker 2: i Thought jaden had that mixed with about eighty five
Speaker 2: percent to eighty percent Of Lamar. Jackson SO i THINK
Speaker 2: i Thought Andrew luck was the best rookie Quarterback i've
Speaker 2: ever seen with bad, TEAMMATES i Thought jayden' surpassed. Him
Speaker 2: he didn't make the mistakes Of. Luck so my take,
Speaker 2: is even if he pulls back fifteen.
Speaker 1: Percent. John if you start looking at his third and
Speaker 1: fourth down numbers last, year fourth quarter, numbers they Are
Speaker 1: brady in his.
Speaker 2: Prime i've been a lot of, people especially The lamar,
Speaker 2: defenders if you just look at the, number you're, like
Speaker 2: how the hell do you have him? Fourth but if
Speaker 2: you read the, quotes the executives and the coaches are
Speaker 2: very complimentary Of, lamar AND i agree his, passing the
Speaker 2: progress he's made from when he first won THAT mvp
Speaker 2: to the version he's been these last couple of years
Speaker 2: in the. Race he's an elite player, now and he's
Speaker 2: a fantastic, passer at least in the regular. Season he
Speaker 2: wasn't that second half of That bill's. Game it Just
Speaker 2: Mark andrews had a couple. Drops jaden is already that,
Speaker 2: Immediately like he's a dominant passer. Immediately, now if you
Speaker 2: tell me he this year he throws thirty eight touchdowns
Speaker 2: and ten, picks like he's just on the crash course
Speaker 2: to be one of the great players of all. TIME i,
Speaker 2: mean if he just, answered BECAUSE i thought that ABOUT
Speaker 2: cj last, Year it's LIKE i got he just games
Speaker 2: easy to, him and it gets, hard you, know offensive
Speaker 2: line wasn't quite as good the offensive. Coordinator that's thing
Speaker 2: With cliff seems like a great, guy AND i know
Speaker 2: everyone in the league loves, him But i've seen his
Speaker 2: offense over the course of time get.
Speaker 1: Figured out a little.
Speaker 2: Bit NOW i Like jayden more THAN i Do, kyler
Speaker 2: and it feels, like you, know that version Of kyler
Speaker 2: that he dealt. With the maturity was a major question,
Speaker 2: mark not a question mark With, jayden BUT i do
Speaker 2: think it's difficult when everyone's gunning for you like you're
Speaker 2: An All pro, immediately you, Know and it's just that's
Speaker 2: not how they were treated last year on a weekly,
Speaker 2: basis and they.
Speaker 1: Are going to get the.
Speaker 2: TREATMENT i think when you played The Washington commanders this,
Speaker 2: year you're not approaching the game that much different than
Speaker 2: when you're playing The, eagles like this is a twelve
Speaker 2: thirteen win team they plan on they can win The Super,
Speaker 2: bowl like fucking we are all in.
Speaker 1: All you.
Speaker 2: Know belichick used to go on these long like diet
Speaker 2: tribes when he played like a one Eleven miami. Team
Speaker 2: it's Like, Bill Remember julian got mad at me for.
Speaker 2: This it's Like julian Not most people can't take these
Speaker 2: awful teams. Seriously But bill, could but everyone. Can and
Speaker 2: this is What bill And saban was great at this,
Speaker 2: too is that they really can kind of convince. You you
Speaker 2: don't need to convince when you're playing the ten and
Speaker 2: One Baltimore ravens or when you're playing the Peak alabama
Speaker 2: team in Your. Georgia, right it's the. Team you don't
Speaker 2: need a New rockney. Speech you're not gonna need that
Speaker 2: when you're Playing. Washington and for the last, decade if
Speaker 2: you're a seventh year player on The cowboys or The,
Speaker 2: eagles like you kind of cruised through The washington, game
Speaker 2: that's no longer the.
Speaker 1: Case. Now it's same thing with The.
Speaker 2: Lions and that's WHERE i Think Dan campbell deserves a
Speaker 2: lot of credit with the way he's kind of you,
Speaker 2: know he's a harrorball. BROTHER i consider him the Third Hardball,
Speaker 2: brother the way his intensity is in his. FOCUS i
Speaker 2: know you were hard on, him BUT i do think
Speaker 2: he's proven to be pretty damn.
Speaker 1: Good, Right, Yeah, NO i was wrong On Dan. CAMPBELL
Speaker 1: i THOUGHT i thought he was a bit of a meat.
Speaker 1: Head my take was AND i was just, LIKE i
Speaker 1: don't know if he's smart, enough the league's getting really,
Speaker 1: smart really clever. Offensively and he's a little bit of a,
Speaker 1: raw raw, guy but you know, what it's so. Authentic
Speaker 1: he is so passionate and it's so, authentic AND i
Speaker 1: think the players can feel that authenticity and they buy into.
Speaker 1: Him AND i also think he has a great front.
Speaker 1: Office AND i mean it's just there that's a front
Speaker 1: office that doesn't go for. FLASH i, mean prime, example
Speaker 1: a couple of years, ago they, get you, know an inside,
Speaker 1: linebacker a running. Back they're getting the best players. Available
Speaker 1: this year they went heavy on interior offensive. Lineman you,
Speaker 1: know it's got A rams feel to. It and that's
Speaker 1: where he came. From Brad holmes came From Los. Angeles
Speaker 1: that they just draft really good. PLAYERS i, mean this,
Speaker 1: year you're, like do The rams need another outside? Linebacker
Speaker 1: they get A michigan, kid and they're, like he's great on,
Speaker 1: tape he's, passionate he plays. Hard The rams, have you,
Speaker 1: know no head. Cases detroit similarly like good, guys like
Speaker 1: all The lions guys Like Amaran Saint brown And Aiden
Speaker 1: hutchinson And Jared goff And Penay sewel no a, holes
Speaker 1: like all really really good so there are people in
Speaker 1: this league AND i Think Dan campbell has benefited from
Speaker 1: that a really GOOD. Gm but he deserves. Credit you.
Speaker 1: KNOW i think in THE nfl you ask so much
Speaker 1: of players. Physically this is Why Mike tomlin his, Strength
Speaker 1: Pete carroll's, strength But, Tomlin vrabel And Dan campbell have a.
Speaker 1: Physicality they look like they could play right. Today is
Speaker 1: that you ask so much OF i, mean if you
Speaker 1: have a bad, thumb you take a series. Off in,
Speaker 1: baseball it's. Understood if you have a bad, calf you
Speaker 1: take a road trip off in THE. Nba it's understood
Speaker 1: in THE. Nfl you play hurt and the coach is
Speaker 1: going to ask you to play. Hurt and so when
Speaker 1: you ask athletes or, MEN i don't care if you're
Speaker 1: a fire chief or a police, chief you're putting people
Speaker 1: in harm's. Way there is a certain, personality an alpha
Speaker 1: personality that. Works you, know you can't ask the fire,
Speaker 1: chief can't ask all those guys are RUNNING theo. Buildings
Speaker 1: they got to. Believe those firemen have to believe that
Speaker 1: guy deeply cares about them as human beings beyond just co.
Speaker 1: Workers AND i Think Dan campbell sells. THAT i think it's.
Speaker 1: AUTHENTIC i think he loves his. PLAYERS i think they feel.
Speaker 1: IT i think mcveigh's got that quality, too AND i
Speaker 1: think all the hardballs. Too they love their.
Speaker 2: Players and, Listen i'm not Selling washington BECAUSE i think
Speaker 2: Dan quinn has characteristics of that as well of being
Speaker 2: a tough. Guy he's defensive lineman in, college defensive, coordinator tough.
Speaker 2: Guy but he's like a lovable tough guy and that's very,
Speaker 2: important AND i think he. Is they're pretty lucky BECAUSE
Speaker 2: i think it's going to be intense for, them but
Speaker 2: they have a coach who's been through the, ringer, Right
Speaker 2: he's a guy that's been. Fired he had to reinvent
Speaker 2: his career. OBVIOUSLY i mean what he did last year
Speaker 2: spoke for. Itself you, Know dabo is a good example
Speaker 2: of a couple of years. Ago i'm, like this is
Speaker 2: the best coaching Job i've ever. Seen he won nine.
Speaker 2: GAMES i think they got like three total good. Players
Speaker 2: But i've been a head coach and as time went,
Speaker 2: on it just kind, of you, know unraveled a little,
Speaker 2: bit and you don't have as much to lean on
Speaker 2: dan quinn once you've been a head coach and you've been,
Speaker 2: fired you've kind of seen it, all especially when you've
Speaker 2: had success and you've worked for the best in the.
Speaker 2: Business you, know you talk to. Anyone with The, chiefs
Speaker 2: there's no taking practices. OFF i mean they're not winning
Speaker 2: these games late in the season and all these playoff
Speaker 2: games close because they have a bunch of guys that
Speaker 2: just Chill monday through Or, Wednesday thursday And friday In
Speaker 2: October november and then start. Practicing you are obligated to.
Speaker 2: PRACTICE i mean it's a tough. Environment no different with The,
Speaker 2: ravens no different now with The. Chargers with the, hardball
Speaker 2: like you, said it is. HARD i mean THE, nfl
Speaker 2: you practice way more than you, play and these coaches
Speaker 2: they will push you to the limit of what they
Speaker 2: are allowed to use with the. Pads you, know THE
Speaker 2: cba doesn't allow them to have that many physical practices
Speaker 2: like they used. To but The hardball, brothers Obviously, Andy, Mike,
Speaker 2: Tomlin Pete Carroll, shirley will push it to the limit
Speaker 2: when it comes to. That SO i just think the
Speaker 2: same teams are when we talk about this all the,
Speaker 2: time or win it over and. OVER i, mean look
Speaker 2: at the top quarterbacks there on the. List they also
Speaker 2: benefit from PLAYING i Mean burrows somewhat of an. Outlier
Speaker 2: they all play with really well. RUN i Mean baker
Speaker 2: resurrected his. Career you, know if you would have Put
Speaker 2: baker in Like arizona the last couple of, years probably
Speaker 2: doesn't Look but he goes To, tampa BEST gm in
Speaker 2: the league or one of, them a bunch of good,
Speaker 2: players high level, guys And boom resurrects his. Career he's.
Speaker 2: Matured and the same With Jared. Goff Jared goff just talked,
Speaker 2: about you, know when he was, traded it really rattled.
Speaker 2: HIM a couple of years, later gets another big extension
Speaker 2: and now he's you, KNOW i would say he's going
Speaker 2: to make five or Six Pro bowls in his time
Speaker 2: in THE Nfc Orvin.
Speaker 1: Lions, yeah, NO i think were you surprised That Ryan
Speaker 1: poles got a contract. Extension i'm kind of mixed On Ryan.
Speaker 1: POLES i Think Ben johnson, now and you AND i
Speaker 1: have talked about. This the coach makes twice to three
Speaker 1: times as much as THE gm, does so the coach
Speaker 1: has a lot of say And Ben, johnson you, know
Speaker 1: you could tell with that interior Lineman Drew, Dolman Joe,
Speaker 1: Tooney Jonah. Jackson that's Got Ben johnson's fingerprints all over.
Speaker 1: It because what you're also saying with those moves is
Speaker 1: you didn't do a good enough job the last several
Speaker 1: years building this offensive. Line i'm going to go on
Speaker 1: the market and pay for, guys especially interior offensive, line
Speaker 1: And i'm going to go pay big. MONEY i was
Speaker 1: a little. Surprised i'm not Anti Ryan. POLES i think
Speaker 1: he's been. Fine The VELAs jones wide receiver pick he
Speaker 1: could have called, ME i could have told him that
Speaker 1: wasn't going to. Work a couple of years, ago they
Speaker 1: only had four. Picks he drafted a. Punter i'm, like come,
Speaker 1: on you do that when you have thirteen? Picks where
Speaker 1: are you On?
Speaker 2: Poles you, Know Mike lombardi used to talk a lot
Speaker 2: about this in the front, offices unlike, coaching where you're
Speaker 2: truly judged wins and, losses or if you're a, coordinator
Speaker 2: you get along with the star linebacker or the star.
Speaker 2: Quarterback does your unit produced as A Gm we see
Speaker 2: a lot of average guys survive for a long time
Speaker 2: because when the game is being played, there you, know
Speaker 2: The bears are, Unique you're not NECESSARILY i know she
Speaker 2: just passed, Away but the most important guy there Is Kevin,
Speaker 2: warren and that's he's close To Kevin warren And Kevin
Speaker 2: warren likes. Him that's an important. Relationship you, know we've
Speaker 2: seen a lot of, GMS i would say in all,
Speaker 2: sports but specifically football lasts longer than they should because
Speaker 2: the decision, maker whether that's the president a lot of
Speaker 2: times is the owner really likes the. Guy AND i
Speaker 2: think with coaches it's easier to get rid of them
Speaker 2: and get a new, guy where with THE, GM i
Speaker 2: think this is simply like he did a pretty good
Speaker 2: job of cultivating and extending a relationship With Kevin warren
Speaker 2: that could have gone, sour, right he didn't get caught
Speaker 2: in that wake that Was ebrafluce because let's, face he
Speaker 2: blamed it all on, him Which i'm not Saying ebraflus
Speaker 2: was a good head. Coach he was objectively, awful but
Speaker 2: it wasn't all his. FAULT i, mean the team was
Speaker 2: not built to play In chicago from an offensive line.
Speaker 2: Standpoint they built around wide. RECEIVERS i Love, rome but
Speaker 2: you should not have taken him at. Nine you play In,
Speaker 2: chicago you play in a tough. Division you should have
Speaker 2: taken alignment. There there were other. Options look at The.
Speaker 2: Jets they took an offensive lineman there in that position
Speaker 2: and the guy didn't even start. Right so like you
Speaker 2: sometimes And Ryan poles is he Was i'm pretty sure
Speaker 2: the left tackle For Matt ryan At Boston. College it's
Speaker 2: not like he played wide, receiver SO i think he
Speaker 2: Got you.
Speaker 1: Got to be a politician to.
Speaker 2: Survive it's no different than Corporate america sometimes because it's
Speaker 2: it's easy to see less need Or howie or you,
Speaker 2: Know ozzie knew some over the, Years Ryan polich're, like
Speaker 2: what's his? Record how many he? Did orchestrate a trade
Speaker 2: With David tepper that he benefited. From BUT i would
Speaker 2: also say that we'll see how that, ages because his
Speaker 2: job isn't just well everyone just says Tay Kayleb. WILLIAMS
Speaker 2: i have people in THE nfl that, said you know,
Speaker 2: what because they Go Adam peters last year got crushed
Speaker 2: for bringing all five quarterbacks not Named Kayleb williams into
Speaker 2: the facility at the same, time and he took him
Speaker 2: to play top, golf and they're, like don't you, know he's, like,
Speaker 2: NO i want to get see all these guys in
Speaker 2: the same, environment get to know, him kind of really judge.
Speaker 2: Them Ryan poles only dealt With, kayler didn't even Give Jayden,
Speaker 2: daniels who had one of the great rookie seasons we've ever,
Speaker 2: seen the. Time they didn't even bring him in on
Speaker 2: a thirty. Visit SO i just think it's part of.
Speaker 2: Relationships PEOPLE i know In Kansas city that work with
Speaker 2: him love. THEM i thought when he got, hired if you,
Speaker 2: remember he made a comment Like i'm gonna screw it,
Speaker 2: up that this wasn't exactly what it, was but something
Speaker 2: like The packers have been running this, division it's our
Speaker 2: time now or it's you, know their time Is it's,
Speaker 2: like what are you you come?
Speaker 1: From Andy.
Speaker 2: Reid they do not talk like that over In Kansas,
Speaker 2: city and they've been. Winning and then obviously he's been embarrassed.
Speaker 2: Since but, listen he's gonna go as they don't sign this,
Speaker 2: CONTRACT I Ben johnson doesn't sign off on this because
Speaker 2: if you, Remember Trent balk survived until he didn't and
Speaker 2: Then Liam cohen wanted him. Out so clearly he's done
Speaker 2: a good job of creating a relationship With Ben, johnson
Speaker 2: which is. Important but, YEAH i, MEAN i think getting
Speaker 2: buddy buddy With Kevin warren over the last twelve plus
Speaker 2: months as Ebra flus was on the hot seat was
Speaker 2: good foresight By ryan got a lot more money for
Speaker 2: the next four or five.
Speaker 1: Years you, know another story that kind of. Developed SO
Speaker 1: i said this a year. AGO i, Said, pittsburgh you
Speaker 1: leave THE nfl again in defensive, spending and you're not PAYING.
Speaker 1: Tj watt the big money. Yet and that's why when
Speaker 1: they went and Got Jalen ramsey and let go a
Speaker 1: mink Of, Fitzpatrick i'm, like how about just let go
Speaker 1: Of Minka fitzpatrick and not bring in a more expensive
Speaker 1: guy in the secondary who's past his, prime who bites
Speaker 1: on a lot of, stuff doesn't quite have the makeup,
Speaker 1: speed the makeup ability he did like four years. Ago
Speaker 1: he's a bounce around the lead guy with a little
Speaker 1: bit of an, attitude a little bit of an independent
Speaker 1: contractor at times from the. Secondary jalen's doing his own.
Speaker 1: Thing so now stories are servicing and people, said how
Speaker 1: can you TRADE. Tj? Watt And i'm, like it would
Speaker 1: be different if their money was all on, offense like
Speaker 1: The rams will Pay jared vers and. Too they're going
Speaker 1: to pay him whatever they have to pay. Him but
Speaker 1: they're going to keep drafting defense and keeping it cheap
Speaker 1: and paying the quarterback and the left tackle And pookin
Speaker 1: Nakup had Maybe Kyraen. WILLIAMS i think a lot of
Speaker 1: the smart teams in the league The chiefs have done
Speaker 1: this is, well they'll Pay Chris, jones but they're gonna
Speaker 1: let corners go and safeties going. Linebacker this is an
Speaker 1: offensive league and you want your defense to, be you,
Speaker 1: know outside of a great pass. Rusher so WHEN i
Speaker 1: suggested it a year, AGO i would, consider you, know
Speaker 1: he's now across that rubicon thirty years old plus for you,
Speaker 1: know an edge, Rusher i'd consider moving. HIM i got huge.
Speaker 1: Pushback now the stories are out, there AND i don't
Speaker 1: think it's crazy if you could get two, two's if
Speaker 1: by the trade deadline or in the, offseason if you
Speaker 1: don't make the. Playoffs Burrow, lamar you know your thoughts
Speaker 1: on trading. HIM i don't think it's going to, happen
Speaker 1: BUT i don't think IT'S i, mean get things in this.
Speaker 1: League Bella, Chick Andy reid were. Fired, okay anybody can
Speaker 1: be fired in this. League Joe montana ended up with The,
Speaker 1: Chiefs brady And. Tampa you can move off. Anybody what
Speaker 1: would You what do you make OF. Tj? WATT i
Speaker 1: agree with you big.
Speaker 2: PICTURE i think the problem is once they make the
Speaker 2: move to trade FOR Dk metcalf With Aaron, rodgers they're
Speaker 2: kind of all in on this season this. Year that,
Speaker 2: yeah that's WHERE. Tj watt kind of has them by
Speaker 2: the you know, what because what are they going to?
Speaker 2: Do he's not only their best, Player as a couple
Speaker 2: of people in the league pointed, out the problem with trading,
Speaker 2: him especially at this point in, time right before training,
Speaker 2: camp is his leadership in what he brings to the
Speaker 2: table in terms of that. Team like he's the, heartbeat he's,
Speaker 2: There Max, crosby he's JUST i, mean he stands for
Speaker 2: everything that that franchise. Is AND i think think about.
Speaker 2: This they traded to make a Fits patrick For Jalen,
Speaker 2: ramsey so The rams pluting On Jayalen ramsey a couple
Speaker 2: of years, ago and they also Signed Darius, slay who
Speaker 2: The eagles just, like, yeah it's it's ended. Here so
Speaker 2: they got two guys who the two of the top
Speaker 2: organizations were, like, yeah these guys are old and trending
Speaker 2: in the wrong. Way and you take For Minka, fitzpatrick
Speaker 2: who LIKE. Tj, watt checks all the. Boxes you, know
Speaker 2: from a intangible, standpoint the problem is. Safety it's kind
Speaker 2: of the new running. Back people don't value it as,
Speaker 2: much so they're going more in the. CORNERS i don't
Speaker 2: think they.
Speaker 1: Have a choice WITH. Tj.
Speaker 2: Watt they almost If I'M, TG i do not show
Speaker 2: up until they capitulate to my, demands which Is Miles, garrett,
Speaker 2: Right Max KROT i want one hundred million new dollars
Speaker 2: coming my. Way that's the going rate for people like.
Speaker 2: Me but that's pretty. Questionable Bit i've supported The. Bengals it's, like,
Speaker 2: hey you get the thirty thirty one year old guy
Speaker 2: who Wants Miles garrett an. Outlier he's like A Lebron james.
Speaker 2: PHYSICALLY i would give an extension to an older player
Speaker 2: that's built like.
Speaker 1: That to, ME.
Speaker 2: Tj Watt Trey hendrickson is, like we have a long
Speaker 2: history of guys with their third contract is they've already
Speaker 2: been in the league close to a. Decade you get
Speaker 2: beat up it's just you're not quite the same as
Speaker 2: you once. Were, well when you go from being a
Speaker 2: ten out of ten to, like, well he's like a
Speaker 2: nine point, two and then he's an eight point, eight
Speaker 2: you can get to like that six or five mark pretty.
Speaker 2: Quick it's a precipitous drop in, football unlike some of
Speaker 2: these other. Sports it's almost like a baseball, pitcher like
Speaker 2: you used to throw in ninety. Five now he's throwing ninety,
Speaker 2: two and all of a sudden he's thrown eighty.
Speaker 1: Five you're, like he's. Shot Kirk shilling telling me he
Speaker 1: would at the end of his, career he, GOES i
Speaker 1: got twelve fast. FALLS i got twelve mid, nineties And
Speaker 1: i'm going to use, them you, know against the three
Speaker 1: hitter or a man. On AND i think it's the
Speaker 1: same thing as for the older pass. Rushers they know
Speaker 1: when the red light it's go, time but they're not given.
Speaker 1: YOU i, mean it's just a different ball they're not giving.
Speaker 1: You In week four Against, carolina first, quarter it doesn't
Speaker 1: feel the same as it does against The ravens in
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter.
Speaker 2: Overtime to, me if you are going to entertain moving
Speaker 2: a guy LIKE. Tj watt or if The cowboys With
Speaker 2: Micah parson's you have to do it before the, draft
Speaker 2: BECAUSE i remember When gruden did. It he got off
Speaker 2: to such a shitty start because he Traded Khalil mack
Speaker 2: a week before. Season those two first round picks that
Speaker 2: The bears don't give you any help those sixteen seventeen,
Speaker 2: Games so it feels, like what are we? Doing so
Speaker 2: they are in a position WHERE i don't.
Speaker 1: Think they have a.
Speaker 2: CHOICE i think he's you almost have to pay, him
Speaker 2: and that's that's risky. Business But i'd argue trading FOR Dk.
Speaker 2: Metcalf you, know when your quarterback is about to Be Aaron,
Speaker 2: rodgers who's going to play one more, season is not?
Speaker 2: Good that to be is the craziest thing they've done this.
Speaker 2: Season in what world are The Pittsburgh steelers in THE
Speaker 2: Dk metcalf market and giving him a third? CONTRACT i
Speaker 2: thought that WAS i Get Aaron. Rodgers they don't have
Speaker 2: any other. Choice but THE Dk, metcalf that's who you're
Speaker 2: going to give an enormous contract to is trek about.
Speaker 2: Us so they've been battling injuries and had some personal
Speaker 2: foul issues.
Speaker 1: With Pete, carroll so they move off a high maintenance
Speaker 1: sideline receiver with a big, personality and they acquire. One
Speaker 1: so it's Like Omar cohn was kind OF i don't
Speaker 1: get a. Pattern if you move off, one that's. Good
Speaker 1: you can go get another. Receiver it wouldn't have BEEN Dk.
Speaker 1: Metca then they move off a guy who's a little
Speaker 1: past his, prime good, Player Mika fitzpatrick getting, expensive and
Speaker 1: then they bring in another defensive back who's more expensive
Speaker 1: past his. Prime SO i don't see a. Plan it
Speaker 1: feels like they're just making moves to make. Moves he
Speaker 1: got an. Extension he's. Fine BUT i do feel like
Speaker 1: there's a lot of people in The pittsburgh. Building they
Speaker 1: remind me a little bit of a better. Roster but
Speaker 1: they feel a little bit like The Dallas, cowboys WHERE
Speaker 1: i think they need new eyes in the. Building The
Speaker 1: lakers just sold all sorts of new eyes and opinions
Speaker 1: in the. Building The cowboys to me and The, steelers
Speaker 1: it's very, insular you know. There you, KNOW i can
Speaker 1: respect the, BRAND i can Respect, tomlin but when you
Speaker 1: lead THE nfl as it's pivoted clearly to. Offense if
Speaker 1: you leave THE nfl for four straight years and defensive.
Speaker 1: Spending that Means tomlin's not getting enough pushback in that. Building,
Speaker 1: well he's not getting enough nose in that, building because
Speaker 1: you can't spend money like that and Win Super bowls
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty.
Speaker 2: FIVE i do think there's actually some parallels the last
Speaker 2: couple of years with The lakers to The, steelers where
Speaker 2: When lebron still had some, juice he was just living
Speaker 2: year to, year do whatever it, takes and that can
Speaker 2: really bite. You for the first, time it felt like
Speaker 2: over the last twelve, months The lakers Like, lebron we're
Speaker 2: not doing crazy things with these late first round picks
Speaker 2: at the end of the, decade Like i'm. Sorry The
Speaker 2: steelers think about last, year it's, like, well we got
Speaker 2: to try to win The Russell Wilson Justin fields will
Speaker 2: just do this little quarterback cocktail and see what works
Speaker 2: out this. Year it's Like Aaron rodgers forty. One it's,
Speaker 2: like this is not going to work, out. GUYS i,
Speaker 2: mean you know the same thing over and. Over the
Speaker 2: problem with doing it this, way at least With Kenny,
Speaker 2: pickett you swing for the fences doesn't work. Out people, like,
Speaker 2: oh we understand if this gets. Ugly it could get really.
Speaker 2: UGLY i, mean what would you put the percentage chance
Speaker 2: that how many forty one year olds don't get hurt
Speaker 2: IN nfl? HISTORY i would say it's a pretty small,
Speaker 2: list you, Know, brady if you're comparing break it, out
Speaker 2: think about some of his. Contemporaries, now they had physical.
Speaker 2: Ailments breeze his, Shoulder roethlisberger's, Shoulder Peyton. Manning that last,
Speaker 2: Year elway had to, say, like we're gonna give you
Speaker 2: a month. Off remember it was Like. November they're, like
Speaker 2: you just sit for a. Month and Aust wyler came
Speaker 2: in the year they won The Super. Bowl the difference
Speaker 2: With rogers his arm still, works but like he can't
Speaker 2: get away as. Fast all of a, sudden you turn
Speaker 2: the corner and some dude on The ravens breaks a.
Speaker 1: Bone and you're just out rolling.
Speaker 2: Ankle well used TO i wasn't going to miss a
Speaker 2: game BECAUSE i was thirty years. Old now it's a
Speaker 2: little harder at. Forty it's harder for older players and other,
Speaker 2: positions let alone the. Quarterback it's the only time of
Speaker 2: the year in those seventeen games when they can actually hit.
Speaker 2: You and one thing we noticed last, year is he'd
Speaker 2: have to hit the ground Because i'm not comfortable enough
Speaker 2: running away from these guys Because i'm not as, fast
Speaker 2: and especially off This achilles.
Speaker 1: Injury, well you think he's going to be faster this.
Speaker 1: Year now he's a diminishing.
Speaker 2: ATHLETE i just IF i was a betting, man are
Speaker 2: they more likely to Have rogers play seventeen games and
Speaker 2: win ten or? Eleven were like by mid? Seasons, LIKE
Speaker 2: i don't Think roger's gonna make it through this. Season
Speaker 2: it feels like.
Speaker 1: That if you just based on the history of, sports
Speaker 1: older guys usually get banged. Up, YEAH i. DON'T i
Speaker 1: just think WHEN i kind of look at the, league
Speaker 1: especially THE, afc and the last two, Years i've been
Speaker 1: pretty successful predicting THE. Afc just who are the best?
Speaker 1: Coaches AND i, mean you give Me Boon knicks and
Speaker 1: you give Me Sean. Payton now the rookie season's, done
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a good football. Team led THE nfl
Speaker 1: in sacks last. Year upgrade of their, Defense denver is
Speaker 1: gonna be a good.
Speaker 2: TEAM i think they had a chance to be REALLY
Speaker 2: i think they got a chance to be really. Good
Speaker 2: if Bo knicks takes a big. STEP i, mean they
Speaker 2: have the top defense in the. League why couldn't they
Speaker 2: win twelve thirteen?
Speaker 1: GAMES i FEEL i THINK i talked about this, Too.
Speaker 1: John last year was the first time in my life
Speaker 1: that THE nfl felt a little like THE, nba where
Speaker 1: there were about eight teams at the bottom that could
Speaker 1: not compete at the. Bottom last year was, big AND
Speaker 1: i think this is the result of ten years of
Speaker 1: the ascension of importance for quarterback and offensive, players is
Speaker 1: that there is one way to win in this league
Speaker 1: now mostly a really high end, coach preferably on, offense
Speaker 1: and a really good quarterback with at LEAST b TO
Speaker 1: b plus, protection good solid. Protection those teams are winning the.
Speaker 1: Division that's why THE afc is so easy to predict every,
Speaker 1: year because it's If Joe burrow had. Production they're one
Speaker 1: of the harder teams to predict because they have such cheap,
Speaker 1: ownership mediocre front, office and battle lines With. Burrow So
Speaker 1: cincinnati's always, like, YEAH i, Know burrow's, great but you,
Speaker 1: Know hendrickson's a circus the. Ownership BUT i think if
Speaker 1: you start looking around this, league THE nba has always
Speaker 1: had like eight teams that are, unwatchable like just can't.
Speaker 1: Compete AND i Think washington was getting to, That LIKE
Speaker 1: i can't Watch washington Play Jaden daniels one. Player Forget
Speaker 1: Dan quinn And cliff. Kingsbreak Jaden daniels made them must watch.
Speaker 1: Television it's, like, WOW. Cj, Stroud houston nothing Against Demiko.
Speaker 1: Ryans C. J stroud's, like, Oh houston's on all, Right Tank, Dell,
Speaker 1: okay now we got offensive guys. There Me tunzel at
Speaker 1: the time was. There, okay let's. Go and SO i
Speaker 1: THINK i think THE, nfl in my, opinion is getting
Speaker 1: easier to, Predict Like dallas don't have a good enough coaching,
Speaker 1: staff don't have a good enough, roster two star quarterbacks
Speaker 1: in the. Division dallas is not a playoff. Team that's
Speaker 1: an easy. ONE i think one of the hardest teams
Speaker 1: in the. League you're convincing me Is Green bay BECAUSE
Speaker 1: i used to make fun of The. Packers i'm, like three,
Speaker 1: YEARS i have more footage of The Lockness monster Than Jordan.
Speaker 1: Love they're hiding, him and then he comes out for
Speaker 1: about eight, Games i'm, like holy, Shit Jordan loves gonna
Speaker 1: whip This kid's. Good and then last year he, struggled
Speaker 1: BUT i think a lot of it was. Injuries Green
Speaker 1: bay is one of the only teams in the league
Speaker 1: that if you told me they finish third or, first
Speaker 1: and There's, Denver i'm with. YOU i Think denver's if
Speaker 1: they do finish, third they're a playoff, team but they
Speaker 1: could finish they could win the. DIVISION i absolutely Green
Speaker 1: bay is one of the only Teams i'm, LIKE i like,
Speaker 1: Them BUT i think THE nfc over a kind of
Speaker 1: a three year when the quarterbacks were getting. Old there's
Speaker 1: about a three year window Where dallas has winning more
Speaker 1: games that they would not have won in THE. AFC
Speaker 1: i DON'T i think THE nfc has taken a couple
Speaker 1: of leaps here in this past. YEAR i don't know
Speaker 1: what to do with Green, bay but everybody ELSE i
Speaker 1: kind of have a vibe.
Speaker 2: On, YEAH i think their teams from like one to
Speaker 2: eight are. Better their quarterback. SITUATION i, mean the stars
Speaker 2: playing the other conference, now If Jalen hurts can back
Speaker 2: up that, season If golfkins stay, healthy A perdy can
Speaker 2: have a good. Year, Obviously Jordan Love Baker, Mayfield it's
Speaker 2: not like there's not star power there can Save donald
Speaker 2: throw thirty five touchdowns In. Seattle Matt stafford still, plays
Speaker 2: so it's not like they actually, lack they just don't,
Speaker 2: have you, know what looks like be Four hall Of
Speaker 2: famers In stafford probably will end up getting in if
Speaker 2: he plays a couple more. Years one thing that's changed dramatically,
Speaker 2: though and this is an advantage To Green bay and
Speaker 2: depending on the cycle of your. Team it's LIKE i
Speaker 2: had a guy in the league tell me this probably
Speaker 2: a year. Ago he's, like the players and the agents
Speaker 2: have a little more juice now because there's so much more.
Speaker 2: Money it's not quite THE, nba but there's some middle.
Speaker 2: Ground it's not like what the there used to, be
Speaker 2: like one hold out every couple of, years definitely in
Speaker 2: the nineties and maybe the early two, thousands and it
Speaker 2: would be a PROMINENT. Emmittt, smith you, know someone just a.
Speaker 2: Superstar now like half the league has like three. Guys they're,
Speaker 2: Like i'm not showing up training, camp and Is Juwan
Speaker 2: jennings Like i'm making seven and a, HALF i need
Speaker 2: like twenty five million. Dollars and then obviously The minca
Speaker 2: or THE. Tj, watt The Micah parsons like, that they're
Speaker 2: Guys Trey, hendrickson guys all over the league the second.
Speaker 2: Round have you been following the story on the second round,
Speaker 2: Picks it's like they're all two. Guys there have been
Speaker 2: two of the whatever thirty two have signed. Contracts those
Speaker 2: two got their contract fully. Guaranteed no one else is
Speaker 2: signed because forever it was.
Speaker 1: Like the first round.
Speaker 2: Picks you, know the fifth year option, is we don't
Speaker 2: know if that's gonna get picked up or, not but
Speaker 2: your first four years are. Guaranteed, well second, rounders like
Speaker 2: you notice if a guy sucked it within a couple of,
Speaker 2: years they were cut or traded or like whatever get
Speaker 2: rid of.
Speaker 1: Them we're usually a first round.
Speaker 2: Pick even IF i don't pick up his fifth year,
Speaker 2: option more than likely he's gonna play out those first
Speaker 2: four years on my team Because i'm paying. Him where
Speaker 2: these agents now are like why you drafted me forty thro?
Speaker 2: OVER i want my entire contract. Guarantee and there's just
Speaker 2: so MUCH i, mean everyone's kind of anointing THE nfl
Speaker 2: how much money they're, making how much, Money, well the
Speaker 2: more you get, that like in any, industry people got
Speaker 2: their hands in the cookie jar and want their. Money
Speaker 2: so it's one. Thing the stars want their, money the
Speaker 2: mid tier guys want their. Money the agents are all.
Speaker 2: Involved it's gonna be fascinating to watch in. Basketball they
Speaker 2: just kind of capitulated to, like if you're just an average,
Speaker 2: star here's two hundred and fifty million. Dollars Chet, holmer
Speaker 2: an average is like fifteen to. Eight he weighs one
Speaker 2: hundred and thirty. Pounds they give him two hundred fifty million.
Speaker 2: Dollars it's, like you couldn't have he couldn't have gotten.
Speaker 1: One it's.
Speaker 2: Crazy the NFL's always battled back against.
Speaker 1: That. Right they've always.
Speaker 2: Even when You're Aaron donald Or Patrick, mahomes like you
Speaker 2: typically have To Lamar jackson took him about five. Years
Speaker 2: he's arguing for his. Money it's kind of going the
Speaker 2: other way where it's LIKE. Tj, wats, like what are
Speaker 2: you gonna? Do play without? ME i doubt you. Will
Speaker 2: and he knows, That like these teams have the money,
Speaker 2: now so it's it's it's shifting a little. Bit AND
Speaker 2: i do think the next five, years as this money
Speaker 2: continues to, flow it's gonna get. Uglier The packers are
Speaker 2: a good. Example they don't really have anyone that's arguing
Speaker 2: because they got no one to. Pay where The niners
Speaker 2: Got Jawan, jennings who's there two years, Ago he's like
Speaker 2: the fourth wide. Receiver he's, Like i'm not showing up
Speaker 2: until you either trade me or pay. Me it's, like oh,
Speaker 2: shit but he's not a. LUNG i, mean this happens
Speaker 2: all over the league, Now SO i think sometimes when
Speaker 2: you have a, situation Remember Chris, jones was it two years,
Speaker 2: ago first game of the. Season he's sitting with those
Speaker 2: two agents that looked like they were in. Goodfellas he's
Speaker 2: just watching the, game you, know from the. Stands so
Speaker 2: it's like these players now that there's so much money
Speaker 2: on the.
Speaker 1: Line, well, right Also, john because there is one way
Speaker 1: to win now mostly offensive coaches and a star. Quarterback
Speaker 1: well that also has put a premium ON i, mean
Speaker 1: we always knew left tackles, mattered centers who call all
Speaker 1: the protections, matter and wide receivers. Mattered but now because
Speaker 1: of the value of the, quarterback, centers left tackles. WEAPONS i,
Speaker 1: mean Sa Kwon, barkley everybody was crying that running backs
Speaker 1: won't get. Paid, well if you have a young if
Speaker 1: you have a young. Quarterback you need to have a
Speaker 1: running back like you need a running. Back SO i,
Speaker 1: THINK i, think WHAT'S i think what's happened in? Football
Speaker 1: it's been there's more winners than. Losers like you're seeing
Speaker 1: a little bit of a re emergence of safeties and
Speaker 1: some of these young coaches like safeties linebackers is still
Speaker 1: you KNOW i, mean but Like Sean payton's out off
Speaker 1: a serious, injury give Me Dray. Greenlaw SO i think
Speaker 1: what's happened is as football doesn't have the analytics of
Speaker 1: basketball or, baseball nor to. Soccer BUT i do think
Speaker 1: there are premium positions. NOW i think you have to
Speaker 1: be really good at about six. Spots, coach, quarterback left,
Speaker 1: tackle defensive interior or pass, rusher two, weapons not just,
Speaker 1: one and preferably somebody in that secondary that is a,
Speaker 1: playmaker somebody that you can lock. On and as the
Speaker 1: money pours, in it feels like the PREVIOUS cba in THE,
Speaker 1: nba where guys Like lebron made more and then the
Speaker 1: bottom didn't make nearly as much as you thought. THEY
Speaker 1: i think what's happening WITH Cbas i'm seeing this with.
Speaker 1: Networks i'm seeing this with a lot of industries in.
Speaker 1: Tech there's a wide gap in THE. Nfl and if
Speaker 1: you're in that have position that you help the quarterback
Speaker 1: or pursue the other team's. Quarterback there's SOME nba money
Speaker 1: now coming.
Speaker 2: Forward, well If Juwan jennings asked me for, Advice i'd, Go,
Speaker 2: juwan you are eighty catches. Away so back to back
Speaker 2: years of being really productive to hitting free agency because,
Speaker 2: inners it's not like they're gonna you, know look at
Speaker 2: guys when they hit free, agency they get fifty percent
Speaker 2: over what they should. Get you might get sixty seventy
Speaker 2: million dollars guaranteed Because Jamar chase And Ceedee lamb and
Speaker 2: none of those type guys ever sniffed free. Agency you
Speaker 2: might be the apple of everyone's. Eye you might be
Speaker 2: the best wide. Receiver so you just got to make
Speaker 2: it to Their look At Kirk, cousins you. Know SO
Speaker 2: I the other thing is offensive. Linemen you know, GUARDS
Speaker 2: i used to think they were the most WHEN i
Speaker 2: worked in THE. Nfl like you can find a guard center.
Speaker 2: Anywhere have the guards make like twenty million dollars? Now
Speaker 2: because in, fairness most teams have a pretty good interior
Speaker 2: pass rusher and like you, said it went. Forever it's, like,
Speaker 2: well we need a left tackle because we had to
Speaker 2: Protect Joe montana From Lawrence. Taylor well now it's, like,
Speaker 2: well who's gonna Block Jalen carter because if you just
Speaker 2: throw some average guarter, center you're gonna get the quarterback.
Speaker 2: Killed look At Caleb williams last year their interior, offensive
Speaker 2: he had no, shot, Right so it's like you have
Speaker 2: to have a Good it's why you, know the haves
Speaker 2: and the have. Nots Even Patrick mahomes they got. Lucky
Speaker 2: he can kind of he has great instincts and can
Speaker 2: and can scramble away from. Trouble but like if you
Speaker 2: cannot block the inside that offensive, line now you are
Speaker 2: getting the story before. It guards and centers were like
Speaker 2: they were viewed to me as the most replaceable all the,
Speaker 2: league and they're not.
Speaker 1: Anymore, Yeah SO i mean it's, listen we camp start.
Speaker 1: Here what's the date, today so that we're doing this
Speaker 1: on the was that? Thirteenth what is the date? Today?
Speaker 1: Fourteenth so camps start? Next is it?
Speaker 2: OFFICIALLY i think every team's a little you, know a
Speaker 2: lot of teams have rookies show up sometime this week
Speaker 2: and a lot of the, veterans typically early. TWENTIES i
Speaker 2: always look at it by the end Of, july everyone
Speaker 2: will be on a field with pads on by probably
Speaker 2: the Latest july thirty first Or august, First so we're
Speaker 2: still probably you, know two weeks away from actual ball being,
Speaker 2: played but we'll be an ota version here in probably ten.
Speaker 2: Days but to, me that first day every team is in,
Speaker 2: pads that's when you get real stuff going, on and you,
Speaker 2: know find out who can, play because right now half
Speaker 2: the league is pretty excited about fourth, rounders sixth, rounders third,
Speaker 2: rounders and then those pads come on and that, guy you,
Speaker 2: know within a couple of days, like, whoa we might
Speaker 2: need to trade for a backup tight end because this
Speaker 2: guy's a little.
Speaker 1: Overwhelmed, yeah IT'S i. Am it was funny WHEN i
Speaker 1: was on, VACATION i WAS i. Did i'd stay off
Speaker 1: my phone, mostly But i'd get the iPad AND i
Speaker 1: do a lot of reading on vacation. Books ANYTHING i
Speaker 1: don't want to. POST i don't want to you, KNOW
Speaker 1: i have NO i was on the phone one day
Speaker 1: for about ten minutes And i'm, LIKE i don't care
Speaker 1: about bitcoin or The epstein. Files this is no place
Speaker 1: for me over the next ten, days So i'm. Out
Speaker 1: but it's it's interesting that you, know As i'm you,
Speaker 1: know reading all the stuff on THE nfl is THAT
Speaker 1: i used to FEEL i really. DID i think there
Speaker 1: was a part in my career about six years AGO
Speaker 1: i felt LIKE nfl season and waiting FOR nfl. Season
Speaker 1: BUT i think there's two or three things in sports
Speaker 1: that have happened THAT i sat and. WATCHED i, mean,
Speaker 1: dude did you ever think you would care about THE.
Speaker 1: Wnba Caitlin clark was on last week And i'm, like,
Speaker 1: oh the. TELEVISION i want to watch. Her i'll be
Speaker 1: honest with, YOU i was just about done with college
Speaker 1: basketball and it pulled me back in this. Year but
Speaker 1: AS i was reading all this stuff about the upcoming football,
Speaker 1: SEASON i want to ask you a question about college.
Speaker 1: Football we'll end it with. This so IF i, said
Speaker 1: using last five years his, momentum what is your high
Speaker 1: school recruiting base and YOUR nil commitment and what is
Speaker 1: your coaching staff? Like so the four, things what's your
Speaker 1: current productivity and momentum for five, Years i'm going to
Speaker 1: give you five years your high school recruiting still has
Speaker 1: to be, elite and YOUR nil commitment has to be
Speaker 1: big boy. Like that's what Separates oregon And. Washington oregon's
Speaker 1: all in and, It washington's. Reluctant USC's all. In ucla
Speaker 1: is limited and, reluctant and the coaching. Staff SO i
Speaker 1: came up with my take on over the last five. Years,
Speaker 1: Now michigan's the hardest Because i'm so much of It's.
Speaker 1: Harbaugh BUT i thought the top five programs in college
Speaker 1: football right now for the last five years and the
Speaker 1: direction they're going Because alabama's HAVING nil problems and This
Speaker 1: kaitlin De bor is a great, coach but they haven't
Speaker 1: felt the. Same i'd Say Ohio state, One georgia, Two texas,
Speaker 1: Three oregon, Four Notre dame, five and Then Michigan Penn.
Speaker 1: STATE i don't quite know what to do With michigan
Speaker 1: because it's All Jim. Harbaugh that was kind of my
Speaker 1: six or. Seven so, Again Ohio, State, GEORGIA i Had.
Speaker 1: Alabama let's See Ohio, State, Georgia, Texas, Oregon Notre, Dame.
Speaker 1: Bama THEN i Had Michigan Penn. State my first take,
Speaker 1: is oh, SHIT i got More big ten teams THAN
Speaker 1: sec teams or three and. Three so IF i said to,
Speaker 1: you give me your top six or seven based on
Speaker 1: staff nil high school recruiting five year, momentum where are?
Speaker 2: You, YEAH i Think Ohio, State, georgia And texas have
Speaker 2: kind of. Separated like IF i just had to bet
Speaker 2: on those three programs over the next five, years you
Speaker 2: would feel really really. CONFIDENT i Think Notre dame and
Speaker 2: maybe they've loosened. Up the academic requirements can be very,
Speaker 2: dependent like is it a good couple years of high
Speaker 2: level smart guys who are great players coming? Out because
Speaker 2: if it is is whoever's on, Top, Stanford Notre, Dame
Speaker 2: northwestern can take advantage of that little stretch And Notre
Speaker 2: dame it feels like it's recruited really. Well SO i
Speaker 2: think there's a chance they would be in that mix
Speaker 2: TO i Think texas has the greatest opportunity to like
Speaker 2: they could, have like especially If arch lives up to the,
Speaker 2: hype WHICH i.
Speaker 1: SAW i don't know if you.
Speaker 2: Saw like A rogers brother said today that the hype
Speaker 2: train's out of, control AND i would almost agree a little.
Speaker 2: Bit it's it's We've he's almost treated Like lebron was
Speaker 2: At Saint vincent's Or Bryce harper was in high. School
Speaker 2: on this front of, sports it's this is really really.
Speaker 2: Hard usually when you get the hype behind, you it's
Speaker 2: after you, play Like andrew Lockeror Trevor lawrence Or caleb
Speaker 2: like you you, Know Baker, mayfield like you've played a.
Speaker 2: Season everyone's, like this guy's, incredible and he's already treated
Speaker 2: like he's going to be the greatest court better than his.
Speaker 2: Uncle and it's gonna be, hard especially in that. Conference
Speaker 2: but if he does live up to the, hype they're
Speaker 2: going to be an unstoppable force because of the money behind.
Speaker 2: THEM i do think the one you Know oregon as, well,
Speaker 2: right they have a financial, ABILITY i would, say a
Speaker 2: recruiting advantage on The west coast with some of these
Speaker 2: The pac twelve, splintering you, Know debor. Leaving you, Know jed's,
Speaker 2: good But debor had proven to be pretty. ELITE a
Speaker 2: lot of pressure On jed this week this. YEAR usc
Speaker 2: has just had a weird couple of years That oregon's benefited. From,
Speaker 2: obviously you, Know billota used to have to recruit AGAINST
Speaker 2: ucla as, well and it's like it wouldn't even be
Speaker 2: if you went into a kid's home IN, la you're
Speaker 2: gonna go To oregon OR. UCLA i, mean the kid
Speaker 2: wouldn't even hesitate to be a plane At oregon because
Speaker 2: it's just way better football. PROGRAM i do think THE
Speaker 2: sec is fascinating how it's gonna play, out THE, lsus
Speaker 2: the The, Alabamas like, financially can they keep up at the?
Speaker 2: LEVEL i was watching something recently where he thought the
Speaker 2: firing of, coaches which got really popular over the last
Speaker 2: decade because people would just buy this guy out for thirty,
Speaker 2: million is that dead because of how much you're paying the? Players,
Speaker 2: like BECAUSE i thought, like, hey If Kaylen debor just
Speaker 2: has a weird year and won like eight, games when
Speaker 2: he is buyout seventy five million. Dollars, well people asked
Speaker 2: me About Lincoln, riley And i'm, like Like i've told,
Speaker 2: PEOPLE i think they're going to win eight games this.
Speaker 2: Year they have one elite, player he's probably a top
Speaker 2: of the second, round mid second round. Player Kamari, ramsey
Speaker 2: the safety FROM, ucla really good. Player he'll he'll be
Speaker 2: probably a second round.
Speaker 1: Pick who's their. Quarterback it's the only time In Lincoln
Speaker 1: riley's CAREER i don't like their quarterback situation at. All
Speaker 1: the most talented, kids a true, freshman he's not going
Speaker 1: to go on The Big ten and spin it and be.
Speaker 1: Dominant and the kid that's, Starting, lincoln likes him more
Speaker 1: THAN i. Do the UN lv KID i, think you,
Speaker 1: KNOW i think he's a, gamer but his judgment he
Speaker 1: just makes too many mistakes for, me And lincoln doesn't like.
Speaker 1: That so you, KNOW i tell PEOPLE usc is doing
Speaker 1: a lot of things, right but you can't fire, him
Speaker 1: and you can't fire LIKE. Lsu, Basically Brian kelly had
Speaker 1: to basically, Say i'll give you a. Salary we have
Speaker 1: to start a pillion of the. Course and for the,
Speaker 1: Record alabama has been public with. It they're asking fans
Speaker 1: to give one, thousand fifteen. Hundred so where THE nil has?
Speaker 1: Changed college basketball is our, system our capitalistic. System Trump's.
Speaker 1: Europe so our universities are Buying europe's best, sixteen seventeen
Speaker 1: and eighteen year olds right or seventeen and eighteen year.
Speaker 1: Olds it's really hurt like The spanish, leagues and in
Speaker 1: football it's hurt The. South The Big ten has massive
Speaker 1: universities forty thousand, student fifty tho they become, graduates they run,
Speaker 1: companies they give money back to the. School it's much
Speaker 1: easier to tap Into Ohio state's fan, base Or michigan's fan,
Speaker 1: base Or Notre dame's fan. Base and as for ten,
Speaker 1: thousand thirty thousand dollars from, graduates, Now Notre dame's. Private
Speaker 1: but a lot of these big ten schools are. MASSIVE
Speaker 1: sec doesn't have as many of, those and SO i
Speaker 1: think what you're seeing the reality is is if everybody's
Speaker 1: allowed to PAY, Usc, Oregon Ohio, State, Michigan Notre, Dame
Speaker 1: Penn state's got big time. MONEY i think there's a
Speaker 1: reality as THE sec is looking up at some of
Speaker 1: these numbers outside Of georgia In texas and they don't
Speaker 1: have the.
Speaker 2: Funds, well have you followed The Texas tech story the
Speaker 2: former player that's the billionaire that's funding their. Program they
Speaker 2: had the number two transfer portal class in this upcoming.
Speaker 2: Season every one of The big twelve media, Days Kenny
Speaker 2: Dillingham dion was, like, guys this team is on paper
Speaker 2: the best team in the. Conference they bought the. TEAM i,
Speaker 2: MEAN i believe the word. RECRUITING i, remember like WHEN
Speaker 2: i was in, college ed was huge With pete at Sc.
Speaker 2: Tosshlupoy remember Ted ford was there were some big time.
Speaker 2: Recruiters saving had a couple when he took Over urban
Speaker 2: had a, couple and it was a big. Deal you'd
Speaker 2: sit out of someone's. Home you'd get to know the,
Speaker 2: player their high school, coach their. Parents that doesn't exist.
Speaker 1: Anymore.
Speaker 2: Kids there's no recruiters who pays, you. RIGHT i mean
Speaker 2: That's Lank kiffin's been saying this for like three. Years
Speaker 2: this is a black and white. Business, now there's no
Speaker 2: he likes me more than this next. Guy if that
Speaker 2: guy's offering four hundred grand and we're offer one hundred and,
Speaker 2: FIFTY i don't care that his mom likes.
Speaker 1: Me he always.
Speaker 2: Goes it's very rare that we've seen like ash and
Speaker 2: Genty state At Boise, state when even the coach was,
Speaker 2: like he turned down a lot of money to stay.
Speaker 2: Here so those days are. Done so WHEN i See
Speaker 2: Texas tech and they have this. Billionaire you, know if
Speaker 2: you told Me Oklahoma state And Tea Boon, pickens who's
Speaker 2: passed away it was thirty years, Ago i'd be, like
Speaker 2: that's a huge advantage Having Tea Boon Pickens Oklahoma, state
Speaker 2: but it. Changed he passed away The nike dynasty and
Speaker 2: that operation still. Operating phil still. Around if he passes,
Speaker 2: AWAY i would just, say you never.
Speaker 1: Know, well, yeah all you could do in The Phil
Speaker 1: night era was build the best. Facilities, yeah those were.
Speaker 1: Impressive but let me tell you. Something having a nice
Speaker 1: locker and having twenty five thousand dollars in your, pocket
Speaker 1: what are you gonna? Choose but here's the.
Speaker 2: Thing and EVEN i mean we're brown bagging. KIDS i
Speaker 2: mean we're talking twenty, grand, right thirty grand now where
Speaker 2: you're talking. Hundreds i'm not even talking to the, quarterbacks which
Speaker 2: is clearly in the. Millions just a solid recruit by
Speaker 2: costa several hundreds of thousands of. DOLLARS i know someone
Speaker 2: who has a rental property in a college town that
Speaker 2: rented their house to a rotational defensive lineman for That
Speaker 2: DIVISION i football, team and obviously you see the their,
Speaker 2: income and he was, like this guy is making hundreds
Speaker 2: of thousands of. Dollars this guy is not some lock draft.
Speaker 2: Pick is a rotational transfer portal guy that got paid
Speaker 2: several hundred thousand dollars and a program THAT i would
Speaker 2: say is not giving away. Money so when you're talking
Speaker 2: To georgia's The Ohio, states SOMETIMES i think people think
Speaker 2: like they're not really twenty thirty million dollars. Payrolls, no,
Speaker 2: guys this Is i'm telling You my scouting buddies say
Speaker 2: they go to these schools and there their player parking
Speaker 2: lots are as, nice if not, nicer because some of
Speaker 2: these guys are you, know they don't even. Realize and
Speaker 2: some of These mercedes dealerships than THEIR nfl, teams and
Speaker 2: they drive nicer. Cars and the, coaches you, know there's
Speaker 2: only a couple of coaches on staff now that make
Speaker 2: more than if you have a star.
Speaker 1: Quarterback so how you handle that.
Speaker 2: Dynamic the other thing, is AND i think about this
Speaker 2: a lot, too like the college FOOTBALL i grew up.
Speaker 2: On let's Use Matt lionard as an. Example played AT
Speaker 2: usc for five. Years these are relationships with his. Teammates you,
Speaker 2: know he lived in a small Apartment i'm sure for several,
Speaker 2: years even as they kind of grew in. Popularity his
Speaker 2: lifestyle wasn't anything near Like Caleb, williams but his relationships
Speaker 2: with that team by their last couple of years playing,
Speaker 2: together these guys have practice. Together they know each, other
Speaker 2: they know each other's. Family they have a strong build
Speaker 2: or built, relationship right Like Travis, Kelce Chris, Jones. Mahomes
Speaker 2: these guys know each.
Speaker 1: Other really really.
Speaker 2: Well those days are. Done guys are moving left and.
Speaker 2: Right you barely know this is still football in that
Speaker 2: game when it's tight game and you're, playing you, know
Speaker 2: in a cold. Environment if you're A usc and you're
Speaker 2: playing At Penn state and It's november, first you're, like
Speaker 2: do you even know the guy next to? You that's
Speaker 2: that part of. Football AND i think the basketball has
Speaker 2: really shown, This like basketball is a lot like football that,
Speaker 2: way where, chemistry cohesion, matters and these guys jump around.
Speaker 2: Teams it's like it's hard to build that chemistry and
Speaker 2: that cohesion and that you, know in a weird way.
Speaker 1: Like love of the other.
Speaker 2: Guy i'm fighting for this guy as much as the.
Speaker 2: Coach so you just kind of never. Know, Now like you,
Speaker 2: Said Georgia, tech they have the best, rosters BUT i
Speaker 2: don't think you can just chalk one of those. Up
Speaker 2: Like Ohio state got hot at the right time and
Speaker 2: they want, it but they folded Against michigan and they
Speaker 2: actually had a lot of guys coming. Back so some
Speaker 2: of these, teams these transferport LIKE lsu top transfer portal.
Speaker 2: Team you convinced, me if it all comes together they
Speaker 2: win twelve, games it wouldn't be shocked if they wont.
Speaker 1: EIGHT i don't. Know, YEAH i think the transfer, PORTAL,
Speaker 1: Lsu colorado AND usc have used it a, lot and
Speaker 1: all of them have lacked a certain chemistry and for sure.
Speaker 1: SPOTS i think you have to have. DISCRETION i still
Speaker 1: think you should be a seventy five. PERCENT i wouldn't
Speaker 1: go as dire As, clemson which is like anti, portal
Speaker 1: But i'd be like seventy five. Percent, RECRUITING i think
Speaker 1: if you can bring in again you need a left,
Speaker 1: guard you need to you, know you need the interior defensive.
Speaker 1: TACKLE i would. LOOK i would try to find like
Speaker 1: five to six starters a, year BUT i don't want.
Speaker 1: TEN i don't want to.
Speaker 2: Think that's easy to, say, Though but what if you
Speaker 2: don't have the best recruits and all of a, sudden
Speaker 2: you look like we can get these three guys that
Speaker 2: are immediately, better and there's so much money on the,
Speaker 2: line it's hard to say. No if the transfer, portal
Speaker 2: wouldn't you just see.
Speaker 1: THEM i think. PROOF i think for certain positions like
Speaker 1: quarterback or elite corner or like just elite interior defensive.
Speaker 1: Linemen BUT i think, AGAIN i think there's running backs and.
Speaker 1: WHY i, mean, LIKE usc should never pay wide. Receivers i'm,
Speaker 1: sorry in Southern, CALIFORNIA i don't want you pay wide. Receivers,
Speaker 1: dude you got. There there's thirty a year in Southern.
Speaker 1: CALIFORNIA i don't WANT usc paying big money for, safeties, linebackers.
Speaker 1: Corners there's just too much talent. Here quarterback you're going
Speaker 1: to have to. Pay but it's BECAUSE i had a
Speaker 1: discussion with somebody AT, usc AND i, said you, know
Speaker 1: you're paying positions that you should never pay AT. Usc
Speaker 1: you should not pay for, now if you need a
Speaker 1: sixth wide receiver From Boise, state you can't be paying
Speaker 1: wide receivers AT. Usc it would be you, know to,
Speaker 1: me it's like paying for running backs At. Georgia the
Speaker 1: state Of florida And. GEORGIA i mean, again maybe you
Speaker 1: pay a little bit to if you need like a,
Speaker 1: starter but there are certain regions of the country that
Speaker 1: just produce certain. Players and it's SO i don't, Know
Speaker 1: I'm I'M i think you create this weird ecosystem when
Speaker 1: you got nine guys Driving. Benz IT'S i don't, KNOW
Speaker 1: i don't. Love i'm not against players making a lot of,
Speaker 1: money BUT i Think i've WATCHED lsu AND usc And
Speaker 1: colorado really, divide like the room is like rich, guy
Speaker 1: not rich, guy and it's to me it feels weird
Speaker 1: over the course of a. Season do you alienate?
Speaker 2: Players, well the other thing is What i've heard, stories
Speaker 2: you know from my scouting, buddies is like the star.
Speaker 1: Quarterback, well think about.
Speaker 2: It there's a lot of star, quarterbacks but only a
Speaker 2: small percentage of them we would consider really good players
Speaker 2: live in this really expensive house a lot of, times
Speaker 2: like by. Themselves so historically everyone had roommates on the.
Speaker 2: Team those days are kind of done because all these
Speaker 2: guys are so. Rich it's, like why WOULDN'T i just
Speaker 2: rent a huge house by.
Speaker 1: MYSELF i don't need to have any.
Speaker 2: Roommates so that creates a divide of just the human
Speaker 2: element of these guys are, eighteen, nineteen twenty years. Old
Speaker 2: there's resentment in THE. Nfl you don't think there's going
Speaker 2: to become resentments, like, wait we're paying this guy this.
Speaker 2: Much i've been on the program for three. Years he's
Speaker 2: making quadruple What i'm, making AND i watched him in these.
Speaker 2: Games he folds like a. Tent SO i think it
Speaker 2: is a really really big challenge at college football to
Speaker 2: that dynamic of the wealth. Gap when we talk about
Speaker 2: the wealth gap a lot in, society you talk about college.
Speaker 2: FOOTBALL i mean all these, guys because the other thing,
Speaker 2: is if you're, young you're going to open your mouth
Speaker 2: and say what you're, making kind of show off. Off,
Speaker 2: sure everyone in that locker room knows who's making.
Speaker 1: What, yeah and then like you could, say, well it
Speaker 1: exists in pro, sports but there's a hierarchy to. IT
Speaker 1: i think it's weird to just all of a sudden
Speaker 1: you have a receiver and you go buy a wide
Speaker 1: receiver From louisville and now he makes more than like
Speaker 1: your junior who had eighty two catches last. Year it's,
Speaker 1: like that's. Weird that's a weird vibe in a locker.
Speaker 1: Room that's WHY i think in THE, Nfl john free
Speaker 1: agency discretion is maybe the Most Chris balder had said this.
Speaker 1: Before don't go shop in the first two, days explosive
Speaker 1: way to the, third the fourth, day seek. VALUE i
Speaker 1: think you create weird dynamics on a college. Campus all. Right,
Speaker 1: Finally John rahm finished Second spain The Live Golf. Tour
Speaker 1: now we go to The British. Open what's your vibe
Speaker 1: going into?
Speaker 2: It, well It's rory's, hometown so it's uh also fired. Up,
Speaker 2: yeah it's you, know he played well last week in
Speaker 2: The Scottish. Open to, me, THOUGH i Think rory Or
Speaker 2: John rahm is winning this. Tournament John, ram you, know
Speaker 2: last year obviously he made the transition to live you,
Speaker 2: KNOW i think it was a tough transition for. HIM
Speaker 2: i think this year he's really gained his. Footing he
Speaker 2: easily could have won THE. Pga he was essentially tied
Speaker 2: for the lead With scotty and he kind of fell
Speaker 2: apart the last couple of. Holes but it was, like
Speaker 2: this is The John ram who has won THE Us
Speaker 2: open and won The. Masters he's got a lot of.
Speaker 2: Momentum Obviously spain's a home game for. Him BUT i Think,
Speaker 2: JOHN i, mean this tournament is always, unique, Right it's
Speaker 2: on early in the, morning the, weather it's fifty mile
Speaker 2: an hour, wins it's rain and it's just you, know
Speaker 2: in the history of. Golf the best players have won this.
Speaker 2: Tournament and it's one On John rahm's. Resume LIKE i,
Speaker 2: think when it's all said and, done if you tell, Me,
Speaker 2: Scotti scheffler And John rahm are the two guys of
Speaker 2: this era After rory that win The Grand, SLAM i,
Speaker 2: mean win every major LIKE i could see. That and you,
Speaker 2: Know scotty has not played well across the.
Speaker 1: Pond a lot more.
Speaker 2: Variables right, wind it's not A bryson event, either you,
Speaker 2: know scientific you got, wind he.
Speaker 1: Can't he.
Speaker 2: Can't the greens are a little, slower you got, rain
Speaker 2: the balls were.
Speaker 1: Weird you.
Speaker 2: Know rom is one of those guys that would have
Speaker 2: succeeded in the, sixties in the. Nineties right now he
Speaker 2: can play in any.
Speaker 1: ERA i Think.
Speaker 2: Rom you could argue IS i Think rory is? Right
Speaker 2: he's not technically the betting Favorite scotty. Is but IF
Speaker 2: i had to handicap, THIS i would Have John rohm
Speaker 2: right there With. Rory Be i'm going to bet On
Speaker 2: John rahm this week for.
Speaker 1: Sure, well and as money has increased over the last you,
Speaker 1: know Since Tiger, woods you, know people are kind of.
Speaker 1: Mystified what's going on With rory, McElroy but he was
Speaker 1: on a hunting mission For augusta for fifteen. Years he got,
Speaker 1: it AND i think there was a. WAKE i think
Speaker 1: there was just this wake of emotion and he kind
Speaker 1: of acknowledged. It it's hard to get up and spend
Speaker 1: three hours in the sun in the late, spring in
Speaker 1: the summer grinding at. Golf you Win, augusta you want time.
Speaker 1: OFF i think this from The augusta win until this
Speaker 1: week playing on his home course, OVERSEAS i think everything
Speaker 1: else but in between that is a. BLUR i think
Speaker 1: at this point in his career it's big game. Hunting
Speaker 1: he is going for the biggest AND i think you're
Speaker 1: allowed to do. THAT i, mean and then you add
Speaker 1: that when guys took the money For live WHICH i always,
Speaker 1: RESPECTED i was, like, hey you, KNOW i got no
Speaker 1: problem with guys doing. That THE pga doesn't run The,
Speaker 1: masters it doesn't run THE Us, open it doesn't run
Speaker 1: The British i'm not loyal to THE. Pga i'm loyal to.
Speaker 1: Golfers i'm loyal To Brooks, Keepkar Phil mickelson Or rory.
Speaker 1: McElroy and my take is the finances of golf From
Speaker 1: tiger to The Live tour have, changed and guys are making.
Speaker 1: Choices it's like stars don't want to play in The
Speaker 1: Pro bowl in THE. Nfl stars make. Choices you don't
Speaker 1: Find Christian pulisic want doesn't want to play in The Gold.
Speaker 1: Cup lebron doesn't want to play in The Feeble World.
Speaker 1: Cup that's the reality of sports now in the last
Speaker 1: ten to.
Speaker 2: Fifteen AND i, think you, Know rom is a good.
Speaker 2: Example over the last couple of, Years scotty had This
Speaker 2: tiger like. Season rory now wins The. Masters he's anointed
Speaker 2: as like the you, know one of the great players
Speaker 2: of all. Time and it was Like rom got lost
Speaker 2: in the shuffle a couple of years. Ago it was
Speaker 2: like this guy's the Chubby sevy. Bollsteros this guy's gonna
Speaker 2: win a bunch of. Majors he's gonna be and then
Speaker 2: he kind of didn't have a great major season two years.
Speaker 2: Ago this year already back to back top tens in THE,
Speaker 2: us opening THE, Pga and to, me, he you, know international,
Speaker 2: players A Ryder cup guy used to, PLAYING i mean grew,
Speaker 2: up did not grow up in The. STATES i think
Speaker 2: those sometimes those guys have an advantage of we get
Speaker 2: spoiled over. HERE i mean all golf. Courses you were
Speaker 2: just playing a golf. Course i'm sure it was well,
Speaker 2: kept you, Know. Scotty scotty's over there at The Scottish
Speaker 2: open complaining about the green. Speed it's, like, Yeah, scotty
Speaker 2: their grass isn't perfect over. Here it's fifty degrees ten
Speaker 2: months a. Year This this Isn't, Dallas texas perfectly Manicure.
Speaker 2: Bermuda you. Know so those guys, typically to, me are
Speaker 2: a little. More it's what Made tiger pretty. Special you
Speaker 2: could put him. Anywhere you can put them the greatest,
Speaker 2: course greatest manicured, Course. Augusta you could throw him In
Speaker 2: asia and he'd be ready to kick ass and take.
Speaker 2: NAMES a lot of people thought That rohm had that
Speaker 2: kind of edge to, him Unless go To live threw
Speaker 2: him off a little. BIT i think he's. COMING i
Speaker 2: think it's him And rory this. WEEK i like those
Speaker 2: two guys a.
Speaker 1: Lot you can't wait it's gonna. BE i THOUGHT i
Speaker 1: thought That sunday At augusta With rory was a top
Speaker 1: TEN i mean that's how STRONGLY i felt that was
Speaker 1: a top TEN tv moment for me if you, could
Speaker 1: if you, can you, know and and by the, Way
Speaker 1: tiger Rock O media EIGHT Us open also hard to,
Speaker 1: be hard to, Be but there have been.
Speaker 2: Two or three Iconic i'd, Say i'd say The faldough
Speaker 2: melt or The norman, Meltdown feul, Meltdown vanderveld late nineties
Speaker 2: Meltdown British. Open but he wasn't a famous, guy was
Speaker 2: just as he wanted to. WORK i would Say tigers twenty.
Speaker 2: Nineteen you know that long stretch he had winning that
Speaker 2: was pretty. Cool BUT i would say The rory, moment
Speaker 2: the build up, THAT i would say the golf splintering,
Speaker 2: right so he and he became such a famous.
Speaker 1: Guy versus this kind of.
Speaker 2: Crew BUT i think that these majors now feel they
Speaker 2: feel amped up, right maybe feel on a different.
Speaker 1: Leave they've always been, big makes them.
Speaker 2: Big but you, KNOW i think this thing is gonna
Speaker 2: be really really big this.
Speaker 1: Week especially for the most, part we have had huge.
Speaker 2: Names win, recently, Right rory's The bryson's, Right scotti's rom,
Speaker 2: like this isn't the little engine that could ain't coming around.
Speaker 2: Anymore so IT'S i would expect the big boys and uh,
Speaker 2: LIKE i, THINK i THINK rom twelve to one when
Speaker 2: you're Talking scotty And rory are both six seven to.
Speaker 1: ONE i mean it's pretty good, value all. Right John,
Speaker 1: middlecoff FORMER nfl, scout three and outs of this. Podcast
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