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Speaker 1: When I go to UFC fights in the summer, I

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Speaker 1: Aaron Donald doesn't look like any of your friends. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Mine he. Won we could argue till we're blue in

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Speaker 2: Allen some of these are still. CHASING i think the top.

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Speaker 2: Four you, Know mahomes hasn't played as well in the

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Speaker 2: think what Makes stafford unique if all the teams were,

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Speaker 1: God, YEAH i mean he can't.

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Speaker 2: Move he's on the team with the best offensive line

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Speaker 1: Yeah SO i THOUGHT i may HAVE. Cj stroud ten

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Speaker 2: Ball BUT i Think CJ's story kind of speaks To Jayden.

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Speaker 2: DANIELS i would Say jaden as a, rookie it's not

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Speaker 2: apples d, apples but was better THAN.

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Speaker 1: Cj just the eye.

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Speaker 2: Test you, know, numbers we could, argue but Just jaden

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Speaker 2: is about as good as it. Gets but they did

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Speaker 2: year every single. Game Aaron donald for. Decade everyone circled

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Speaker 2: Joe burrow last, year, right you, Know Jayden, daniels this

426
00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:56,600
Speaker 2: is going everyone's gonna take them. Seriously so WHY i

427
00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:59,240
Speaker 2: got a lot of respect For Dan campbell and The.

428
00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:01,520
Speaker 2: Lions like early on it's, like, okay you gotta the

429
00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:03,920
Speaker 2: last couple of, years like everyone has been approaching them

430
00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:05,200
Speaker 2: like one of the best teams in the, league and

431
00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:07,480
Speaker 2: they've answered the. Bell same With jared you, know we'll

432
00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:10,399
Speaker 2: See Jayden daniels like no one is sleeping on you this.

433
00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:13,159
Speaker 2: Year that's from the shittiest team to when you're playing the,

434
00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:15,560
Speaker 2: packers the. Vikings that's. Hard you, know.

435
00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:18,560
Speaker 1: Well Even baseball figured it out with, analytics is that

436
00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:22,760
Speaker 1: they don't want to starter facing a batter for the third, time,

437
00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:25,119
Speaker 1: Right so you go through the order twice and then

438
00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:27,360
Speaker 1: by the time you're gonna Face so what they're telling,

439
00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:30,479
Speaker 1: you even starting, pitchers even, aces they want to they

440
00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:32,120
Speaker 1: want you out of. There but the third time because

441
00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:34,960
Speaker 1: a guy after a third groove on you gets a.

442
00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:37,000
Speaker 1: Vibe because a lot of pictures get. Better you know

443
00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:40,160
Speaker 1: verlandro And wayinwright in their. PRIME i Thought Nolan ryan

444
00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:43,639
Speaker 1: was better fifth inning. On can you imagine Pulling nolan

445
00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:46,359
Speaker 1: out with a one hitter in the? Sixth you do

446
00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:50,360
Speaker 1: A Robin ventura on. You but the reality is there

447
00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:52,840
Speaker 1: is truth to what you're. Saying is it is very

448
00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:55,080
Speaker 1: hard in the middle of the, marathon when you're on

449
00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:58,720
Speaker 1: the treadmill to break Down Jade daniels over the course

450
00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:02,160
Speaker 1: of two days on a couch in an office sleeping

451
00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:06,560
Speaker 1: and say this is the, solution this is the. Kryptonite

452
00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:08,840
Speaker 1: when you give guys an off seats and these defensive

453
00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:11,800
Speaker 1: coordinators they find, Play they go through all the analytics

454
00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:14,040
Speaker 1: and find out he doesn't see to his right as

455
00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:16,720
Speaker 1: well as his. Left he's more. Accurate SO i do

456
00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:21,399
Speaker 1: think he was. Miraculous But i'll also make this, argument

457
00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:24,800
Speaker 1: IF i told you you Combine Lamar jackson And Joe,

458
00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:28,840
Speaker 1: burrow that's WHAT i Thought Jaden daniels. WAS i thought he.

459
00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:31,919
Speaker 1: WAS i, Mean burrow to, me is even better Than.

460
00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:36,400
Speaker 1: Mahomes if you told me two minute, drill a minute fifty.

461
00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:44,320
Speaker 5: Left no timeouts left and protection is, OKAY i Think

462
00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:46,399
Speaker 5: burrow's as good as Anybody i've ever seen in the

463
00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:46,840
Speaker 5: last ten.

464
00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:50,000
Speaker 1: Years, Now mahomes gets all the credit Because mahomes you.

465
00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:53,000
Speaker 2: Give Him chase And. Higgins mahomes numbers look a lot. Different,

466
00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:55,760
Speaker 2: Right you're, Right you're, right that's. Fair BUT i Think

467
00:22:55,840 --> 00:23:00,520
Speaker 2: burrow's ability on third, down third and seven sit in the, little,

468
00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:04,560
Speaker 2: tiny weird. Windows you're, like what in the. Hell AND

469
00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:07,520
Speaker 2: i Thought jaden had that mixed with about eighty five

470
00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:11,119
Speaker 2: percent to eighty percent Of Lamar. Jackson SO i THINK

471
00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:13,520
Speaker 2: i Thought Andrew luck was the best rookie Quarterback i've

472
00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:17,320
Speaker 2: ever seen with bad, TEAMMATES i Thought jayden' surpassed. Him

473
00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:19,800
Speaker 2: he didn't make the mistakes Of. Luck so my take,

474
00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:21,639
Speaker 2: is even if he pulls back fifteen.

475
00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:24,520
Speaker 1: Percent. John if you start looking at his third and

476
00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:28,000
Speaker 1: fourth down numbers last, year fourth quarter, numbers they Are

477
00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:29,000
Speaker 1: brady in his.

478
00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:32,080
Speaker 2: Prime i've been a lot of, people especially The lamar,

479
00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:34,119
Speaker 2: defenders if you just look at the, number you're, like

480
00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:36,120
Speaker 2: how the hell do you have him? Fourth but if

481
00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:39,000
Speaker 2: you read the, quotes the executives and the coaches are

482
00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:42,399
Speaker 2: very complimentary Of, lamar AND i agree his, passing the

483
00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:44,640
Speaker 2: progress he's made from when he first won THAT mvp

484
00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:46,320
Speaker 2: to the version he's been these last couple of years

485
00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:48,360
Speaker 2: in the. Race he's an elite player, now and he's

486
00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:51,560
Speaker 2: a fantastic, passer at least in the regular. Season he

487
00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:53,840
Speaker 2: wasn't that second half of That bill's. Game it Just

488
00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:57,159
Speaker 2: Mark andrews had a couple. Drops jaden is already that,

489
00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:00,560
Speaker 2: Immediately like he's a dominant passer. Immediately, now if you

490
00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:03,840
Speaker 2: tell me he this year he throws thirty eight touchdowns

491
00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:06,880
Speaker 2: and ten, picks like he's just on the crash course

492
00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:08,840
Speaker 2: to be one of the great players of all. TIME i,

493
00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:10,600
Speaker 2: mean if he just, answered BECAUSE i thought that ABOUT

494
00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:12,639
Speaker 2: cj last, Year it's LIKE i got he just games

495
00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:14,520
Speaker 2: easy to, him and it gets, hard you, know offensive

496
00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:17,280
Speaker 2: line wasn't quite as good the offensive. Coordinator that's thing

497
00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:19,879
Speaker 2: With cliff seems like a great, guy AND i know

498
00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:21,840
Speaker 2: everyone in the league loves, him But i've seen his

499
00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:24,520
Speaker 2: offense over the course of time get.

500
00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:25,080
Speaker 1: Figured out a little.

501
00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:27,320
Speaker 2: Bit NOW i Like jayden more THAN i Do, kyler

502
00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:29,879
Speaker 2: and it feels, like you, know that version Of kyler

503
00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:31,920
Speaker 2: that he dealt. With the maturity was a major question,

504
00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:34,720
Speaker 2: mark not a question mark With, jayden BUT i do

505
00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:38,040
Speaker 2: think it's difficult when everyone's gunning for you like you're

506
00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:41,000
Speaker 2: An All pro, immediately you, Know and it's just that's

507
00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:43,600
Speaker 2: not how they were treated last year on a weekly,

508
00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:44,280
Speaker 2: basis and they.

509
00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:44,840
Speaker 1: Are going to get the.

510
00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:48,399
Speaker 2: TREATMENT i think when you played The Washington commanders this,

511
00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:50,320
Speaker 2: year you're not approaching the game that much different than

512
00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:51,800
Speaker 2: when you're playing The, eagles like this is a twelve

513
00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:53,640
Speaker 2: thirteen win team they plan on they can win The Super,

514
00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:55,840
Speaker 2: bowl like fucking we are all in.

515
00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:56,480
Speaker 1: All you.

516
00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:58,359
Speaker 2: Know belichick used to go on these long like diet

517
00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:01,160
Speaker 2: tribes when he played like a one Eleven miami. Team

518
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:03,760
Speaker 2: it's Like, Bill Remember julian got mad at me for.

519
00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:06,359
Speaker 2: This it's Like julian Not most people can't take these

520
00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:10,320
Speaker 2: awful teams. Seriously But bill, could but everyone. Can and

521
00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:12,240
Speaker 2: this is What bill And saban was great at this,

522
00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:15,879
Speaker 2: too is that they really can kind of convince. You you

523
00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:17,439
Speaker 2: don't need to convince when you're playing the ten and

524
00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:20,280
Speaker 2: One Baltimore ravens or when you're playing the Peak alabama

525
00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:22,720
Speaker 2: team in Your. Georgia, right it's the. Team you don't

526
00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:25,399
Speaker 2: need a New rockney. Speech you're not gonna need that

527
00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:28,159
Speaker 2: when you're Playing. Washington and for the last, decade if

528
00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:30,200
Speaker 2: you're a seventh year player on The cowboys or The,

529
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:33,400
Speaker 2: eagles like you kind of cruised through The washington, game

530
00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:34,479
Speaker 2: that's no longer the.

531
00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:35,720
Speaker 1: Case. Now it's same thing with The.

532
00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:38,440
Speaker 2: Lions and that's WHERE i Think Dan campbell deserves a

533
00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:40,919
Speaker 2: lot of credit with the way he's kind of you,

534
00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:43,280
Speaker 2: know he's a harrorball. BROTHER i consider him the Third Hardball,

535
00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:46,040
Speaker 2: brother the way his intensity is in his. FOCUS i

536
00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:47,560
Speaker 2: know you were hard on, him BUT i do think

537
00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:49,440
Speaker 2: he's proven to be pretty damn.

538
00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:52,320
Speaker 1: Good, Right, Yeah, NO i was wrong On Dan. CAMPBELL

539
00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:53,640
Speaker 1: i THOUGHT i thought he was a bit of a meat.

540
00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:56,159
Speaker 1: Head my take was AND i was just, LIKE i

541
00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:57,960
Speaker 1: don't know if he's smart, enough the league's getting really,

542
00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:00,480
Speaker 1: smart really clever. Offensively and he's a little bit of a,

543
00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:03,880
Speaker 1: raw raw, guy but you know, what it's so. Authentic

544
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:07,040
Speaker 1: he is so passionate and it's so, authentic AND i

545
00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:10,800
Speaker 1: think the players can feel that authenticity and they buy into.

546
00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:12,440
Speaker 1: Him AND i also think he has a great front.

547
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:15,359
Speaker 1: Office AND i mean it's just there that's a front

548
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:18,360
Speaker 1: office that doesn't go for. FLASH i, mean prime, example

549
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:20,760
Speaker 1: a couple of years, ago they, get you, know an inside,

550
00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:24,240
Speaker 1: linebacker a running. Back they're getting the best players. Available

551
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:27,399
Speaker 1: this year they went heavy on interior offensive. Lineman you,

552
00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:29,840
Speaker 1: know it's got A rams feel to. It and that's

553
00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:33,359
Speaker 1: where he came. From Brad holmes came From Los. Angeles

554
00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:36,480
Speaker 1: that they just draft really good. PLAYERS i, mean this,

555
00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:39,760
Speaker 1: year you're, like do The rams need another outside? Linebacker

556
00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:42,040
Speaker 1: they get A michigan, kid and they're, like he's great on,

557
00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:45,359
Speaker 1: tape he's, passionate he plays. Hard The rams, have you,

558
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:49,719
Speaker 1: know no head. Cases detroit similarly like good, guys like

559
00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:53,679
Speaker 1: all The lions guys Like Amaran Saint brown And Aiden

560
00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:57,639
Speaker 1: hutchinson And Jared goff And Penay sewel no a, holes

561
00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:01,840
Speaker 1: like all really really good so there are people in

562
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:05,200
Speaker 1: this league AND i Think Dan campbell has benefited from

563
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:09,000
Speaker 1: that a really GOOD. Gm but he deserves. Credit you.

564
00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:13,840
Speaker 1: KNOW i think in THE nfl you ask so much

565
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 1: of players. Physically this is Why Mike tomlin his, Strength

566
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:20,679
Speaker 1: Pete carroll's, strength But, Tomlin vrabel And Dan campbell have a.

567
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 1: Physicality they look like they could play right. Today is

568
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:28,040
Speaker 1: that you ask so much OF i, mean if you

569
00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:30,679
Speaker 1: have a bad, thumb you take a series. Off in,

570
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 1: baseball it's. Understood if you have a bad, calf you

571
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:36,680
Speaker 1: take a road trip off in THE. Nba it's understood

572
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:39,359
Speaker 1: in THE. Nfl you play hurt and the coach is

573
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:42,080
Speaker 1: going to ask you to play. Hurt and so when

574
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:45,439
Speaker 1: you ask athletes or, MEN i don't care if you're

575
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:49,760
Speaker 1: a fire chief or a police, chief you're putting people

576
00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:55,080
Speaker 1: in harm's. Way there is a certain, personality an alpha

577
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:58,960
Speaker 1: personality that. Works you, know you can't ask the fire,

578
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:01,200
Speaker 1: chief can't ask all those guys are RUNNING theo. Buildings

579
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:03,879
Speaker 1: they got to. Believe those firemen have to believe that

580
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:09,880
Speaker 1: guy deeply cares about them as human beings beyond just co.

581
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:13,280
Speaker 1: Workers AND i Think Dan campbell sells. THAT i think it's.

582
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:16,200
Speaker 1: AUTHENTIC i think he loves his. PLAYERS i think they feel.

583
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:19,439
Speaker 1: IT i think mcveigh's got that quality, too AND i

584
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:21,880
Speaker 1: think all the hardballs. Too they love their.

585
00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:25,520
Speaker 2: Players and, Listen i'm not Selling washington BECAUSE i think

586
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:29,240
Speaker 2: Dan quinn has characteristics of that as well of being

587
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:32,840
Speaker 2: a tough. Guy he's defensive lineman in, college defensive, coordinator tough.

588
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:36,760
Speaker 2: Guy but he's like a lovable tough guy and that's very,

589
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:40,280
Speaker 2: important AND i think he. Is they're pretty lucky BECAUSE

590
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 2: i think it's going to be intense for, them but

591
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 2: they have a coach who's been through the, ringer, Right

592
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:47,200
Speaker 2: he's a guy that's been. Fired he had to reinvent

593
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 2: his career. OBVIOUSLY i mean what he did last year

594
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 2: spoke for. Itself you, Know dabo is a good example

595
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:53,840
Speaker 2: of a couple of years. Ago i'm, like this is

596
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:55,680
Speaker 2: the best coaching Job i've ever. Seen he won nine.

597
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 2: GAMES i think they got like three total good. Players

598
00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:01,560
Speaker 2: But i've been a head coach and as time went,

599
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 2: on it just kind, of you, know unraveled a little,

600
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 2: bit and you don't have as much to lean on

601
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:07,520
Speaker 2: dan quinn once you've been a head coach and you've been,

602
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 2: fired you've kind of seen it, all especially when you've

603
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:11,240
Speaker 2: had success and you've worked for the best in the.

604
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:13,720
Speaker 2: Business you, know you talk to. Anyone with The, chiefs

605
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:18,240
Speaker 2: there's no taking practices. OFF i mean they're not winning

606
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:20,480
Speaker 2: these games late in the season and all these playoff

607
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 2: games close because they have a bunch of guys that

608
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 2: just Chill monday through Or, Wednesday thursday And friday In

609
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:30,920
Speaker 2: October november and then start. Practicing you are obligated to.

610
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 2: PRACTICE i mean it's a tough. Environment no different with The,

611
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 2: ravens no different now with The. Chargers with the, hardball

612
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 2: like you, said it is. HARD i mean THE, nfl

613
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:41,560
Speaker 2: you practice way more than you, play and these coaches

614
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:43,320
Speaker 2: they will push you to the limit of what they

615
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:45,720
Speaker 2: are allowed to use with the. Pads you, know THE

616
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:48,480
Speaker 2: cba doesn't allow them to have that many physical practices

617
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 2: like they used. To but The hardball, brothers Obviously, Andy, Mike,

618
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:55,200
Speaker 2: Tomlin Pete Carroll, shirley will push it to the limit

619
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 2: when it comes to. That SO i just think the

620
00:29:58,160 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 2: same teams are when we talk about this all the,

621
00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 2: time or win it over and. OVER i, mean look

622
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 2: at the top quarterbacks there on the. List they also

623
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 2: benefit from PLAYING i Mean burrows somewhat of an. Outlier

624
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 2: they all play with really well. RUN i Mean baker

625
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:13,240
Speaker 2: resurrected his. Career you, know if you would have Put

626
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 2: baker in Like arizona the last couple of, years probably

627
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:18,480
Speaker 2: doesn't Look but he goes To, tampa BEST gm in

628
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:20,120
Speaker 2: the league or one of, them a bunch of good,

629
00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:23,920
Speaker 2: players high level, guys And boom resurrects his. Career he's.

630
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 2: Matured and the same With Jared. Goff Jared goff just talked,

631
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:29,200
Speaker 2: about you, know when he was, traded it really rattled.

632
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:31,960
Speaker 2: HIM a couple of years, later gets another big extension

633
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:33,960
Speaker 2: and now he's you, KNOW i would say he's going

634
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 2: to make five or Six Pro bowls in his time

635
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:37,800
Speaker 2: in THE Nfc Orvin.

636
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:41,200
Speaker 1: Lions, yeah, NO i think were you surprised That Ryan

637
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:45,000
Speaker 1: poles got a contract. Extension i'm kind of mixed On Ryan.

638
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 1: POLES i Think Ben johnson, now and you AND i

639
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:50,800
Speaker 1: have talked about. This the coach makes twice to three

640
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 1: times as much as THE gm, does so the coach

641
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:55,080
Speaker 1: has a lot of say And Ben, johnson you, know

642
00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:58,320
Speaker 1: you could tell with that interior Lineman Drew, Dolman Joe,

643
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:02,480
Speaker 1: Tooney Jonah. Jackson that's Got Ben johnson's fingerprints all over.

644
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 1: It because what you're also saying with those moves is

645
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 1: you didn't do a good enough job the last several

646
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:11,120
Speaker 1: years building this offensive. Line i'm going to go on

647
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 1: the market and pay for, guys especially interior offensive, line

648
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:16,680
Speaker 1: And i'm going to go pay big. MONEY i was

649
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:19,560
Speaker 1: a little. Surprised i'm not Anti Ryan. POLES i think

650
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 1: he's been. Fine The VELAs jones wide receiver pick he

651
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:25,200
Speaker 1: could have called, ME i could have told him that

652
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 1: wasn't going to. Work a couple of years, ago they

653
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:30,640
Speaker 1: only had four. Picks he drafted a. Punter i'm, like come,

654
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:34,400
Speaker 1: on you do that when you have thirteen? Picks where

655
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:34,800
Speaker 1: are you On?

656
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 2: Poles you, Know Mike lombardi used to talk a lot

657
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 2: about this in the front, offices unlike, coaching where you're

658
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,480
Speaker 2: truly judged wins and, losses or if you're a, coordinator

659
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:47,560
Speaker 2: you get along with the star linebacker or the star.

660
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:50,800
Speaker 2: Quarterback does your unit produced as A Gm we see

661
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 2: a lot of average guys survive for a long time

662
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 2: because when the game is being played, there you, know

663
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:57,840
Speaker 2: The bears are, Unique you're not NECESSARILY i know she

664
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 2: just passed, Away but the most important guy there Is Kevin,

665
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 2: warren and that's he's close To Kevin warren And Kevin

666
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:06,720
Speaker 2: warren likes. Him that's an important. Relationship you, know we've

667
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 2: seen a lot of, GMS i would say in all,

668
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 2: sports but specifically football lasts longer than they should because

669
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 2: the decision, maker whether that's the president a lot of

670
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:17,239
Speaker 2: times is the owner really likes the. Guy AND i

671
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 2: think with coaches it's easier to get rid of them

672
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 2: and get a new, guy where with THE, GM i

673
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:24,120
Speaker 2: think this is simply like he did a pretty good

674
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 2: job of cultivating and extending a relationship With Kevin warren

675
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:30,960
Speaker 2: that could have gone, sour, right he didn't get caught

676
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 2: in that wake that Was ebrafluce because let's, face he

677
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:36,000
Speaker 2: blamed it all on, him Which i'm not Saying ebraflus

678
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:39,240
Speaker 2: was a good head. Coach he was objectively, awful but

679
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 2: it wasn't all his. FAULT i, mean the team was

680
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:44,320
Speaker 2: not built to play In chicago from an offensive line.

681
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 2: Standpoint they built around wide. RECEIVERS i Love, rome but

682
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 2: you should not have taken him at. Nine you play In,

683
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 2: chicago you play in a tough. Division you should have

684
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:54,240
Speaker 2: taken alignment. There there were other. Options look at The.

685
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 2: Jets they took an offensive lineman there in that position

686
00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 2: and the guy didn't even start. Right so like you

687
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 2: sometimes And Ryan poles is he Was i'm pretty sure

688
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 2: the left tackle For Matt ryan At Boston. College it's

689
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 2: not like he played wide, receiver SO i think he

690
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:10,360
Speaker 2: Got you.

691
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 1: Got to be a politician to.

692
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:15,520
Speaker 2: Survive it's no different than Corporate america sometimes because it's

693
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:18,240
Speaker 2: it's easy to see less need Or howie or you,

694
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 2: Know ozzie knew some over the, Years Ryan polich're, like

695
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 2: what's his? Record how many he? Did orchestrate a trade

696
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 2: With David tepper that he benefited. From BUT i would

697
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 2: also say that we'll see how that, ages because his

698
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 2: job isn't just well everyone just says Tay Kayleb. WILLIAMS

699
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:35,480
Speaker 2: i have people in THE nfl that, said you know,

700
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 2: what because they Go Adam peters last year got crushed

701
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:42,080
Speaker 2: for bringing all five quarterbacks not Named Kayleb williams into

702
00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:43,959
Speaker 2: the facility at the same, time and he took him

703
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 2: to play top, golf and they're, like don't you, know he's, like,

704
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 2: NO i want to get see all these guys in

705
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 2: the same, environment get to know, him kind of really judge.

706
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:55,560
Speaker 2: Them Ryan poles only dealt With, kayler didn't even Give Jayden,

707
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 2: daniels who had one of the great rookie seasons we've ever,

708
00:33:57,920 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 2: seen the. Time they didn't even bring him in on

709
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 2: a thirty. Visit SO i just think it's part of.

710
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 2: Relationships PEOPLE i know In Kansas city that work with

711
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 2: him love. THEM i thought when he got, hired if you,

712
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:13,759
Speaker 2: remember he made a comment Like i'm gonna screw it,

713
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 2: up that this wasn't exactly what it, was but something

714
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 2: like The packers have been running this, division it's our

715
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 2: time now or it's you, know their time Is it's,

716
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 2: like what are you you come?

717
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 1: From Andy.

718
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 2: Reid they do not talk like that over In Kansas,

719
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:28,920
Speaker 2: city and they've been. Winning and then obviously he's been embarrassed.

720
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 2: Since but, listen he's gonna go as they don't sign this,

721
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:35,400
Speaker 2: CONTRACT I Ben johnson doesn't sign off on this because

722
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:38,880
Speaker 2: if you, Remember Trent balk survived until he didn't and

723
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:40,960
Speaker 2: Then Liam cohen wanted him. Out so clearly he's done

724
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 2: a good job of creating a relationship With Ben, johnson

725
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 2: which is. Important but, YEAH i, MEAN i think getting

726
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:49,160
Speaker 2: buddy buddy With Kevin warren over the last twelve plus

727
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 2: months as Ebra flus was on the hot seat was

728
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 2: good foresight By ryan got a lot more money for

729
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:56,920
Speaker 2: the next four or five.

730
00:34:57,000 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 1: Years you, know another story that kind of. Developed SO

731
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 1: i said this a year. AGO i, Said, pittsburgh you

732
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 1: leave THE nfl again in defensive, spending and you're not PAYING.

733
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:22,759
Speaker 1: Tj watt the big money. Yet and that's why when

734
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:24,719
Speaker 1: they went and Got Jalen ramsey and let go a

735
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 1: mink Of, Fitzpatrick i'm, like how about just let go

736
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 1: Of Minka fitzpatrick and not bring in a more expensive

737
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:34,440
Speaker 1: guy in the secondary who's past his, prime who bites

738
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 1: on a lot of, stuff doesn't quite have the makeup,

739
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 1: speed the makeup ability he did like four years. Ago

740
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:41,719
Speaker 1: he's a bounce around the lead guy with a little

741
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 1: bit of an, attitude a little bit of an independent

742
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:48,879
Speaker 1: contractor at times from the. Secondary jalen's doing his own.

743
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 1: Thing so now stories are servicing and people, said how

744
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:54,040
Speaker 1: can you TRADE. Tj? Watt And i'm, like it would

745
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:57,360
Speaker 1: be different if their money was all on, offense like

746
00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:00,600
Speaker 1: The rams will Pay jared vers and. Too they're going

747
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:02,440
Speaker 1: to pay him whatever they have to pay. Him but

748
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:04,959
Speaker 1: they're going to keep drafting defense and keeping it cheap

749
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:07,280
Speaker 1: and paying the quarterback and the left tackle And pookin

750
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:09,880
Speaker 1: Nakup had Maybe Kyraen. WILLIAMS i think a lot of

751
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:11,719
Speaker 1: the smart teams in the league The chiefs have done

752
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:15,359
Speaker 1: this is, well they'll Pay Chris, jones but they're gonna

753
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 1: let corners go and safeties going. Linebacker this is an

754
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:23,480
Speaker 1: offensive league and you want your defense to, be you,

755
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:26,000
Speaker 1: know outside of a great pass. Rusher so WHEN i

756
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 1: suggested it a year, AGO i would, consider you, know

757
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 1: he's now across that rubicon thirty years old plus for you,

758
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:39,880
Speaker 1: know an edge, Rusher i'd consider moving. HIM i got huge.

759
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 1: Pushback now the stories are out, there AND i don't

760
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:48,600
Speaker 1: think it's crazy if you could get two, two's if

761
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 1: by the trade deadline or in the, offseason if you

762
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:56,440
Speaker 1: don't make the. Playoffs Burrow, lamar you know your thoughts

763
00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 1: on trading. HIM i don't think it's going to, happen

764
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:03,279
Speaker 1: BUT i don't think IT'S i, mean get things in this.

765
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:06,839
Speaker 1: League Bella, Chick Andy reid were. Fired, okay anybody can

766
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:10,319
Speaker 1: be fired in this. League Joe montana ended up with The,

767
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:14,160
Speaker 1: Chiefs brady And. Tampa you can move off. Anybody what

768
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:16,279
Speaker 1: would You what do you make OF. Tj? WATT i

769
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:17,399
Speaker 1: agree with you big.

770
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 2: PICTURE i think the problem is once they make the

771
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:23,319
Speaker 2: move to trade FOR Dk metcalf With Aaron, rodgers they're

772
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:25,000
Speaker 2: kind of all in on this season this. Year that,

773
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:27,359
Speaker 2: yeah that's WHERE. Tj watt kind of has them by

774
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:29,920
Speaker 2: the you know, what because what are they going to?

775
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:32,439
Speaker 2: Do he's not only their best, Player as a couple

776
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 2: of people in the league pointed, out the problem with trading,

777
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 2: him especially at this point in, time right before training,

778
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:40,719
Speaker 2: camp is his leadership in what he brings to the

779
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 2: table in terms of that. Team like he's the, heartbeat he's,

780
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 2: There Max, crosby he's JUST i, mean he stands for

781
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:50,439
Speaker 2: everything that that franchise. Is AND i think think about.

782
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 2: This they traded to make a Fits patrick For Jalen,

783
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 2: ramsey so The rams pluting On Jayalen ramsey a couple

784
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:57,440
Speaker 2: of years, ago and they also Signed Darius, slay who

785
00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:00,120
Speaker 2: The eagles just, like, yeah it's it's ended. Here so

786
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:01,799
Speaker 2: they got two guys who the two of the top

787
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 2: organizations were, like, yeah these guys are old and trending

788
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:08,359
Speaker 2: in the wrong. Way and you take For Minka, fitzpatrick

789
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:11,560
Speaker 2: who LIKE. Tj, watt checks all the. Boxes you, know

790
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:15,279
Speaker 2: from a intangible, standpoint the problem is. Safety it's kind

791
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:17,279
Speaker 2: of the new running. Back people don't value it as,

792
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:19,759
Speaker 2: much so they're going more in the. CORNERS i don't

793
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 2: think they.

794
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:20,919
Speaker 1: Have a choice WITH. Tj.

795
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:24,279
Speaker 2: Watt they almost If I'M, TG i do not show

796
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 2: up until they capitulate to my, demands which Is Miles, garrett,

797
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:30,280
Speaker 2: Right Max KROT i want one hundred million new dollars

798
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 2: coming my. Way that's the going rate for people like.

799
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 2: Me but that's pretty. Questionable Bit i've supported The. Bengals it's, like,

800
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 2: hey you get the thirty thirty one year old guy

801
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 2: who Wants Miles garrett an. Outlier he's like A Lebron james.

802
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 2: PHYSICALLY i would give an extension to an older player

803
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 2: that's built like.

804
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 1: That to, ME.

805
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:49,680
Speaker 2: Tj Watt Trey hendrickson is, like we have a long

806
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 2: history of guys with their third contract is they've already

807
00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:54,879
Speaker 2: been in the league close to a. Decade you get

808
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:58,279
Speaker 2: beat up it's just you're not quite the same as

809
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 2: you once. Were, well when you go from being a

810
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 2: ten out of ten to, like, well he's like a

811
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:04,719
Speaker 2: nine point, two and then he's an eight point, eight

812
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 2: you can get to like that six or five mark pretty.

813
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:10,239
Speaker 2: Quick it's a precipitous drop in, football unlike some of

814
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 2: these other. Sports it's almost like a baseball, pitcher like

815
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 2: you used to throw in ninety. Five now he's throwing ninety,

816
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:16,359
Speaker 2: two and all of a sudden he's thrown eighty.

817
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:20,840
Speaker 1: Five you're, like he's. Shot Kirk shilling telling me he

818
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:22,680
Speaker 1: would at the end of his, career he, GOES i

819
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:26,799
Speaker 1: got twelve fast. FALLS i got twelve mid, nineties And

820
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:29,439
Speaker 1: i'm going to use, them you, know against the three

821
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:31,360
Speaker 1: hitter or a man. On AND i think it's the

822
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 1: same thing as for the older pass. Rushers they know

823
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 1: when the red light it's go, time but they're not given.

824
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:41,120
Speaker 1: YOU i, mean it's just a different ball they're not giving.

825
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 1: You In week four Against, carolina first, quarter it doesn't

826
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:46,880
Speaker 1: feel the same as it does against The ravens in

827
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter.

828
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 2: Overtime to, me if you are going to entertain moving

829
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 2: a guy LIKE. Tj watt or if The cowboys With

830
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 2: Micah parson's you have to do it before the, draft

831
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:57,120
Speaker 2: BECAUSE i remember When gruden did. It he got off

832
00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:59,399
Speaker 2: to such a shitty start because he Traded Khalil mack

833
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:02,319
Speaker 2: a week before. Season those two first round picks that

834
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:04,880
Speaker 2: The bears don't give you any help those sixteen seventeen,

835
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 2: Games so it feels, like what are we? Doing so

836
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 2: they are in a position WHERE i don't.

837
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:09,239
Speaker 1: Think they have a.

838
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:12,399
Speaker 2: CHOICE i think he's you almost have to pay, him

839
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:15,959
Speaker 2: and that's that's risky. Business But i'd argue trading FOR Dk.

840
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:19,120
Speaker 2: Metcalf you, know when your quarterback is about to Be Aaron,

841
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:22,120
Speaker 2: rodgers who's going to play one more, season is not?

842
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 2: Good that to be is the craziest thing they've done this.

843
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 2: Season in what world are The Pittsburgh steelers in THE

844
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:31,640
Speaker 2: Dk metcalf market and giving him a third? CONTRACT i

845
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:33,800
Speaker 2: thought that WAS i Get Aaron. Rodgers they don't have

846
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 2: any other. Choice but THE Dk, metcalf that's who you're

847
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:39,800
Speaker 2: going to give an enormous contract to is trek about.

848
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 2: Us so they've been battling injuries and had some personal

849
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:44,280
Speaker 2: foul issues.

850
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:47,239
Speaker 1: With Pete, carroll so they move off a high maintenance

851
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:53,960
Speaker 1: sideline receiver with a big, personality and they acquire. One

852
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 1: so it's Like Omar cohn was kind OF i don't

853
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:00,959
Speaker 1: get a. Pattern if you move off, one that's. Good

854
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:04,440
Speaker 1: you can go get another. Receiver it wouldn't have BEEN Dk.

855
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:06,760
Speaker 1: Metca then they move off a guy who's a little

856
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:10,759
Speaker 1: past his, prime good, Player Mika fitzpatrick getting, expensive and

857
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 1: then they bring in another defensive back who's more expensive

858
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 1: past his. Prime SO i don't see a. Plan it

859
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 1: feels like they're just making moves to make. Moves he

860
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:21,440
Speaker 1: got an. Extension he's. Fine BUT i do feel like

861
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:24,200
Speaker 1: there's a lot of people in The pittsburgh. Building they

862
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:26,680
Speaker 1: remind me a little bit of a better. Roster but

863
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 1: they feel a little bit like The Dallas, cowboys WHERE

864
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:31,719
Speaker 1: i think they need new eyes in the. Building The

865
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 1: lakers just sold all sorts of new eyes and opinions

866
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 1: in the. Building The cowboys to me and The, steelers

867
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 1: it's very, insular you know. There you, KNOW i can

868
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:49,960
Speaker 1: respect the, BRAND i can Respect, tomlin but when you

869
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 1: lead THE nfl as it's pivoted clearly to. Offense if

870
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:55,360
Speaker 1: you leave THE nfl for four straight years and defensive.

871
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:59,440
Speaker 1: Spending that Means tomlin's not getting enough pushback in that. Building,

872
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:02,759
Speaker 1: well he's not getting enough nose in that, building because

873
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:05,320
Speaker 1: you can't spend money like that and Win Super bowls

874
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty.

875
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 2: FIVE i do think there's actually some parallels the last

876
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:12,800
Speaker 2: couple of years with The lakers to The, steelers where

877
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 2: When lebron still had some, juice he was just living

878
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:17,920
Speaker 2: year to, year do whatever it, takes and that can

879
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:19,800
Speaker 2: really bite. You for the first, time it felt like

880
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:22,319
Speaker 2: over the last twelve, months The lakers Like, lebron we're

881
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:24,759
Speaker 2: not doing crazy things with these late first round picks

882
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:26,799
Speaker 2: at the end of the, decade Like i'm. Sorry The

883
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:28,600
Speaker 2: steelers think about last, year it's, like, well we got

884
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 2: to try to win The Russell Wilson Justin fields will

885
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 2: just do this little quarterback cocktail and see what works

886
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:35,759
Speaker 2: out this. Year it's Like Aaron rodgers forty. One it's,

887
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 2: like this is not going to work, out. GUYS i,

888
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 2: mean you know the same thing over and. Over the

889
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:43,439
Speaker 2: problem with doing it this, way at least With Kenny,

890
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 2: pickett you swing for the fences doesn't work. Out people, like,

891
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:49,839
Speaker 2: oh we understand if this gets. Ugly it could get really.

892
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:52,160
Speaker 2: UGLY i, mean what would you put the percentage chance

893
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 2: that how many forty one year olds don't get hurt

894
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 2: IN nfl? HISTORY i would say it's a pretty small,

895
00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 2: list you, Know, brady if you're comparing break it, out

896
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:04,320
Speaker 2: think about some of his. Contemporaries, now they had physical.

897
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 2: Ailments breeze his, Shoulder roethlisberger's, Shoulder Peyton. Manning that last,

898
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 2: Year elway had to, say, like we're gonna give you

899
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:13,080
Speaker 2: a month. Off remember it was Like. November they're, like

900
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:15,680
Speaker 2: you just sit for a. Month and Aust wyler came

901
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:18,280
Speaker 2: in the year they won The Super. Bowl the difference

902
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:20,960
Speaker 2: With rogers his arm still, works but like he can't

903
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:23,319
Speaker 2: get away as. Fast all of a, sudden you turn

904
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:26,839
Speaker 2: the corner and some dude on The ravens breaks a.

905
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 1: Bone and you're just out rolling.

906
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 2: Ankle well used TO i wasn't going to miss a

907
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:33,840
Speaker 2: game BECAUSE i was thirty years. Old now it's a

908
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:36,759
Speaker 2: little harder at. Forty it's harder for older players and other,

909
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 2: positions let alone the. Quarterback it's the only time of

910
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 2: the year in those seventeen games when they can actually hit.

911
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:44,719
Speaker 2: You and one thing we noticed last, year is he'd

912
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 2: have to hit the ground Because i'm not comfortable enough

913
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 2: running away from these guys Because i'm not as, fast

914
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:50,960
Speaker 2: and especially off This achilles.

915
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 1: Injury, well you think he's going to be faster this.

916
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:54,200
Speaker 1: Year now he's a diminishing.

917
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 2: ATHLETE i just IF i was a betting, man are

918
00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 2: they more likely to Have rogers play seventeen games and

919
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:03,759
Speaker 2: win ten or? Eleven were like by mid? Seasons, LIKE

920
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:05,760
Speaker 2: i don't Think roger's gonna make it through this. Season

921
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:06,560
Speaker 2: it feels like.

922
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 1: That if you just based on the history of, sports

923
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:14,239
Speaker 1: older guys usually get banged. Up, YEAH i. DON'T i

924
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:17,360
Speaker 1: just think WHEN i kind of look at the, league

925
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:20,360
Speaker 1: especially THE, afc and the last two, Years i've been

926
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:24,000
Speaker 1: pretty successful predicting THE. Afc just who are the best?

927
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:26,319
Speaker 1: Coaches AND i, mean you give Me Boon knicks and

928
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:28,839
Speaker 1: you give Me Sean. Payton now the rookie season's, done

929
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:30,800
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a good football. Team led THE nfl

930
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:33,279
Speaker 1: in sacks last. Year upgrade of their, Defense denver is

931
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:33,759
Speaker 1: gonna be a good.

932
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:36,600
Speaker 2: TEAM i think they had a chance to be REALLY

933
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 2: i think they got a chance to be really. Good

934
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:39,880
Speaker 2: if Bo knicks takes a big. STEP i, mean they

935
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 2: have the top defense in the. League why couldn't they

936
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:42,320
Speaker 2: win twelve thirteen?

937
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:45,279
Speaker 1: GAMES i FEEL i THINK i talked about this, Too.

938
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:48,280
Speaker 1: John last year was the first time in my life

939
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:51,319
Speaker 1: that THE nfl felt a little like THE, nba where

940
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:54,200
Speaker 1: there were about eight teams at the bottom that could

941
00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:58,200
Speaker 1: not compete at the. Bottom last year was, big AND

942
00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:03,319
Speaker 1: i think this is the result of ten years of

943
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:09,799
Speaker 1: the ascension of importance for quarterback and offensive, players is

944
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 1: that there is one way to win in this league

945
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 1: now mostly a really high end, coach preferably on, offense

946
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:19,279
Speaker 1: and a really good quarterback with at LEAST b TO

947
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:23,239
Speaker 1: b plus, protection good solid. Protection those teams are winning the.

948
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:25,839
Speaker 1: Division that's why THE afc is so easy to predict every,

949
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:29,680
Speaker 1: year because it's If Joe burrow had. Production they're one

950
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:31,919
Speaker 1: of the harder teams to predict because they have such cheap,

951
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:36,000
Speaker 1: ownership mediocre front, office and battle lines With. Burrow So

952
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 1: cincinnati's always, like, YEAH i, Know burrow's, great but you,

953
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:43,360
Speaker 1: Know hendrickson's a circus the. Ownership BUT i think if

954
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 1: you start looking around this, league THE nba has always

955
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 1: had like eight teams that are, unwatchable like just can't.

956
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 1: Compete AND i Think washington was getting to, That LIKE

957
00:45:56,200 --> 00:46:00,840
Speaker 1: i can't Watch washington Play Jaden daniels one. Player Forget

958
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:04,359
Speaker 1: Dan quinn And cliff. Kingsbreak Jaden daniels made them must watch.

959
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 1: Television it's, like, WOW. Cj, Stroud houston nothing Against Demiko.

960
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:13,239
Speaker 1: Ryans C. J stroud's, like, Oh houston's on all, Right Tank, Dell,

961
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 1: okay now we got offensive guys. There Me tunzel at

962
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:18,279
Speaker 1: the time was. There, okay let's. Go and SO i

963
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:22,120
Speaker 1: THINK i think THE, nfl in my, opinion is getting

964
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:26,680
Speaker 1: easier to, Predict Like dallas don't have a good enough coaching,

965
00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:30,480
Speaker 1: staff don't have a good enough, roster two star quarterbacks

966
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:34,080
Speaker 1: in the. Division dallas is not a playoff. Team that's

967
00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:36,360
Speaker 1: an easy. ONE i think one of the hardest teams

968
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:40,160
Speaker 1: in the. League you're convincing me Is Green bay BECAUSE

969
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:43,279
Speaker 1: i used to make fun of The. Packers i'm, like three,

970
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 1: YEARS i have more footage of The Lockness monster Than Jordan.

971
00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:48,840
Speaker 1: Love they're hiding, him and then he comes out for

972
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:51,760
Speaker 1: about eight, Games i'm, like holy, Shit Jordan loves gonna

973
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 1: whip This kid's. Good and then last year he, struggled

974
00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:56,320
Speaker 1: BUT i think a lot of it was. Injuries Green

975
00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:58,239
Speaker 1: bay is one of the only teams in the league

976
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:01,040
Speaker 1: that if you told me they finish third or, first

977
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:05,920
Speaker 1: and There's, Denver i'm with. YOU i Think denver's if

978
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:08,000
Speaker 1: they do finish, third they're a playoff, team but they

979
00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 1: could finish they could win the. DIVISION i absolutely Green

980
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:13,719
Speaker 1: bay is one of the only Teams i'm, LIKE i like,

981
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:17,160
Speaker 1: Them BUT i think THE nfc over a kind of

982
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:20,319
Speaker 1: a three year when the quarterbacks were getting. Old there's

983
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:22,560
Speaker 1: about a three year window Where dallas has winning more

984
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:24,920
Speaker 1: games that they would not have won in THE. AFC

985
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 1: i DON'T i think THE nfc has taken a couple

986
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:31,880
Speaker 1: of leaps here in this past. YEAR i don't know

987
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 1: what to do with Green, bay but everybody ELSE i

988
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:34,880
Speaker 1: kind of have a vibe.

989
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:38,480
Speaker 2: On, YEAH i think their teams from like one to

990
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:42,480
Speaker 2: eight are. Better their quarterback. SITUATION i, mean the stars

991
00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:45,440
Speaker 2: playing the other conference, now If Jalen hurts can back

992
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:47,719
Speaker 2: up that, season If golfkins stay, healthy A perdy can

993
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:50,399
Speaker 2: have a good. Year, Obviously Jordan Love Baker, Mayfield it's

994
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:52,960
Speaker 2: not like there's not star power there can Save donald

995
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:56,000
Speaker 2: throw thirty five touchdowns In. Seattle Matt stafford still, plays

996
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 2: so it's not like they actually, lack they just don't,

997
00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:00,759
Speaker 2: have you, know what looks like be Four hall Of

998
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:03,799
Speaker 2: famers In stafford probably will end up getting in if

999
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:07,440
Speaker 2: he plays a couple more. Years one thing that's changed dramatically,

1000
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:09,120
Speaker 2: though and this is an advantage To Green bay and

1001
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:12,319
Speaker 2: depending on the cycle of your. Team it's LIKE i

1002
00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:14,040
Speaker 2: had a guy in the league tell me this probably

1003
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:16,160
Speaker 2: a year. Ago he's, like the players and the agents

1004
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:18,480
Speaker 2: have a little more juice now because there's so much more.

1005
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:21,520
Speaker 2: Money it's not quite THE, nba but there's some middle.

1006
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:23,920
Speaker 2: Ground it's not like what the there used to, be

1007
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:26,120
Speaker 2: like one hold out every couple of, years definitely in

1008
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:28,279
Speaker 2: the nineties and maybe the early two, thousands and it

1009
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:31,120
Speaker 2: would be a PROMINENT. Emmittt, smith you, know someone just a.

1010
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:34,399
Speaker 2: Superstar now like half the league has like three. Guys they're,

1011
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:36,279
Speaker 2: Like i'm not showing up training, camp and Is Juwan

1012
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:39,080
Speaker 2: jennings Like i'm making seven and a, HALF i need

1013
00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:42,000
Speaker 2: like twenty five million. Dollars and then obviously The minca

1014
00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:45,799
Speaker 2: or THE. Tj, watt The Micah parsons like, that they're

1015
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 2: Guys Trey, hendrickson guys all over the league the second.

1016
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 2: Round have you been following the story on the second round,

1017
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:54,120
Speaker 2: Picks it's like they're all two. Guys there have been

1018
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:57,439
Speaker 2: two of the whatever thirty two have signed. Contracts those

1019
00:48:57,440 --> 00:49:00,680
Speaker 2: two got their contract fully. Guaranteed no one else is

1020
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:02,279
Speaker 2: signed because forever it was.

1021
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:02,959
Speaker 1: Like the first round.

1022
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:05,719
Speaker 2: Picks you, know the fifth year option, is we don't

1023
00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:06,920
Speaker 2: know if that's gonna get picked up or, not but

1024
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 2: your first four years are. Guaranteed, well second, rounders like

1025
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:12,040
Speaker 2: you notice if a guy sucked it within a couple of,

1026
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 2: years they were cut or traded or like whatever get

1027
00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:15,239
Speaker 2: rid of.

1028
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:16,799
Speaker 1: Them we're usually a first round.

1029
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:18,440
Speaker 2: Pick even IF i don't pick up his fifth year,

1030
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:21,000
Speaker 2: option more than likely he's gonna play out those first

1031
00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:23,840
Speaker 2: four years on my team Because i'm paying. Him where

1032
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:26,400
Speaker 2: these agents now are like why you drafted me forty thro?

1033
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:29,680
Speaker 2: OVER i want my entire contract. Guarantee and there's just

1034
00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 2: so MUCH i, mean everyone's kind of anointing THE nfl

1035
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:35,040
Speaker 2: how much money they're, making how much, Money, well the

1036
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:37,439
Speaker 2: more you get, that like in any, industry people got

1037
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:39,240
Speaker 2: their hands in the cookie jar and want their. Money

1038
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:41,239
Speaker 2: so it's one. Thing the stars want their, money the

1039
00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:43,560
Speaker 2: mid tier guys want their. Money the agents are all.

1040
00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:47,520
Speaker 2: Involved it's gonna be fascinating to watch in. Basketball they

1041
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:50,800
Speaker 2: just kind of capitulated to, like if you're just an average,

1042
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:53,280
Speaker 2: star here's two hundred and fifty million. Dollars Chet, holmer

1043
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:55,040
Speaker 2: an average is like fifteen to. Eight he weighs one

1044
00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:57,279
Speaker 2: hundred and thirty. Pounds they give him two hundred fifty million.

1045
00:49:57,280 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 2: Dollars it's, like you couldn't have he couldn't have gotten.

1046
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:00,600
Speaker 1: One it's.

1047
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:03,760
Speaker 2: Crazy the NFL's always battled back against.

1048
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:05,120
Speaker 1: That. Right they've always.

1049
00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:07,799
Speaker 2: Even when You're Aaron donald Or Patrick, mahomes like you

1050
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:10,480
Speaker 2: typically have To Lamar jackson took him about five. Years

1051
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:13,160
Speaker 2: he's arguing for his. Money it's kind of going the

1052
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:15,080
Speaker 2: other way where it's LIKE. Tj, wats, like what are

1053
00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:17,000
Speaker 2: you gonna? Do play without? ME i doubt you. Will

1054
00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:19,240
Speaker 2: and he knows, That like these teams have the money,

1055
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:22,480
Speaker 2: now so it's it's it's shifting a little. Bit AND

1056
00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:25,240
Speaker 2: i do think the next five, years as this money

1057
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:27,920
Speaker 2: continues to, flow it's gonna get. Uglier The packers are

1058
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:30,720
Speaker 2: a good. Example they don't really have anyone that's arguing

1059
00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:33,000
Speaker 2: because they got no one to. Pay where The niners

1060
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:36,719
Speaker 2: Got Jawan, jennings who's there two years, Ago he's like

1061
00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:39,279
Speaker 2: the fourth wide. Receiver he's, Like i'm not showing up

1062
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:41,720
Speaker 2: until you either trade me or pay. Me it's, like oh,

1063
00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:44,160
Speaker 2: shit but he's not a. LUNG i, mean this happens

1064
00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:46,799
Speaker 2: all over the league, Now SO i think sometimes when

1065
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:49,759
Speaker 2: you have a, situation Remember Chris, jones was it two years,

1066
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:51,480
Speaker 2: ago first game of the. Season he's sitting with those

1067
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:53,520
Speaker 2: two agents that looked like they were in. Goodfellas he's

1068
00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:56,279
Speaker 2: just watching the, game you, know from the. Stands so

1069
00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:58,800
Speaker 2: it's like these players now that there's so much money

1070
00:50:58,800 --> 00:50:59,080
Speaker 2: on the.

1071
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:04,080
Speaker 1: Line, well, right Also, john because there is one way

1072
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:08,719
Speaker 1: to win now mostly offensive coaches and a star. Quarterback

1073
00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:13,160
Speaker 1: well that also has put a premium ON i, mean

1074
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:17,719
Speaker 1: we always knew left tackles, mattered centers who call all

1075
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:22,880
Speaker 1: the protections, matter and wide receivers. Mattered but now because

1076
00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:29,319
Speaker 1: of the value of the, quarterback, centers left tackles. WEAPONS i,

1077
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 1: mean Sa Kwon, barkley everybody was crying that running backs

1078
00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:34,400
Speaker 1: won't get. Paid, well if you have a young if

1079
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:35,800
Speaker 1: you have a young. Quarterback you need to have a

1080
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:38,600
Speaker 1: running back like you need a running. Back SO i,

1081
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:41,680
Speaker 1: THINK i, think WHAT'S i think what's happened in? Football

1082
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:46,040
Speaker 1: it's been there's more winners than. Losers like you're seeing

1083
00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:48,200
Speaker 1: a little bit of a re emergence of safeties and

1084
00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:52,520
Speaker 1: some of these young coaches like safeties linebackers is still

1085
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:55,239
Speaker 1: you KNOW i, mean but Like Sean payton's out off

1086
00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:59,399
Speaker 1: a serious, injury give Me Dray. Greenlaw SO i think

1087
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:03,360
Speaker 1: what's happened is as football doesn't have the analytics of

1088
00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:07,520
Speaker 1: basketball or, baseball nor to. Soccer BUT i do think

1089
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:11,759
Speaker 1: there are premium positions. NOW i think you have to

1090
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:15,799
Speaker 1: be really good at about six. Spots, coach, quarterback left,

1091
00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:21,759
Speaker 1: tackle defensive interior or pass, rusher two, weapons not just,

1092
00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:27,160
Speaker 1: one and preferably somebody in that secondary that is a,

1093
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:31,400
Speaker 1: playmaker somebody that you can lock. On and as the

1094
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:35,880
Speaker 1: money pours, in it feels like the PREVIOUS cba in THE,

1095
00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:38,759
Speaker 1: nba where guys Like lebron made more and then the

1096
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:41,680
Speaker 1: bottom didn't make nearly as much as you thought. THEY

1097
00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:44,840
Speaker 1: i think what's happening WITH Cbas i'm seeing this with.

1098
00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:47,520
Speaker 1: Networks i'm seeing this with a lot of industries in.

1099
00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:52,040
Speaker 1: Tech there's a wide gap in THE. Nfl and if

1100
00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:54,960
Speaker 1: you're in that have position that you help the quarterback

1101
00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:59,480
Speaker 1: or pursue the other team's. Quarterback there's SOME nba money

1102
00:52:59,520 --> 00:52:59,919
Speaker 1: now coming.

1103
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:04,239
Speaker 2: Forward, well If Juwan jennings asked me for, Advice i'd, Go,

1104
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:06,920
Speaker 2: juwan you are eighty catches. Away so back to back

1105
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:10,000
Speaker 2: years of being really productive to hitting free agency because,

1106
00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:12,799
Speaker 2: inners it's not like they're gonna you, know look at

1107
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:15,720
Speaker 2: guys when they hit free, agency they get fifty percent

1108
00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:18,640
Speaker 2: over what they should. Get you might get sixty seventy

1109
00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 2: million dollars guaranteed Because Jamar chase And Ceedee lamb and

1110
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:24,400
Speaker 2: none of those type guys ever sniffed free. Agency you

1111
00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:26,279
Speaker 2: might be the apple of everyone's. Eye you might be

1112
00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:27,920
Speaker 2: the best wide. Receiver so you just got to make

1113
00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:30,360
Speaker 2: it to Their look At Kirk, cousins you. Know SO

1114
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:35,040
Speaker 2: I the other thing is offensive. Linemen you know, GUARDS

1115
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:37,120
Speaker 2: i used to think they were the most WHEN i

1116
00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:39,320
Speaker 2: worked in THE. Nfl like you can find a guard center.

1117
00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:42,839
Speaker 2: Anywhere have the guards make like twenty million dollars? Now

1118
00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:46,279
Speaker 2: because in, fairness most teams have a pretty good interior

1119
00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:49,120
Speaker 2: pass rusher and like you, said it went. Forever it's, like,

1120
00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:50,600
Speaker 2: well we need a left tackle because we had to

1121
00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:53,520
Speaker 2: Protect Joe montana From Lawrence. Taylor well now it's, like,

1122
00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:56,319
Speaker 2: well who's gonna Block Jalen carter because if you just

1123
00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:58,840
Speaker 2: throw some average guarter, center you're gonna get the quarterback.

1124
00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:01,719
Speaker 2: Killed look At Caleb williams last year their interior, offensive

1125
00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:04,239
Speaker 2: he had no, shot, Right so it's like you have

1126
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:06,880
Speaker 2: to have a Good it's why you, know the haves

1127
00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:08,879
Speaker 2: and the have. Nots Even Patrick mahomes they got. Lucky

1128
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:11,359
Speaker 2: he can kind of he has great instincts and can

1129
00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:14,680
Speaker 2: and can scramble away from. Trouble but like if you

1130
00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:18,200
Speaker 2: cannot block the inside that offensive, line now you are

1131
00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:20,359
Speaker 2: getting the story before. It guards and centers were like

1132
00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:23,719
Speaker 2: they were viewed to me as the most replaceable all the,

1133
00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:24,480
Speaker 2: league and they're not.

1134
00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:29,360
Speaker 1: Anymore, Yeah SO i mean it's, listen we camp start.

1135
00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:31,520
Speaker 1: Here what's the date, today so that we're doing this

1136
00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:33,719
Speaker 1: on the was that? Thirteenth what is the date? Today?

1137
00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:38,960
Speaker 1: Fourteenth so camps start? Next is it?

1138
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:41,400
Speaker 2: OFFICIALLY i think every team's a little you, know a

1139
00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:44,319
Speaker 2: lot of teams have rookies show up sometime this week

1140
00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:47,600
Speaker 2: and a lot of the, veterans typically early. TWENTIES i

1141
00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:50,960
Speaker 2: always look at it by the end Of, july everyone

1142
00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:53,560
Speaker 2: will be on a field with pads on by probably

1143
00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:55,759
Speaker 2: the Latest july thirty first Or august, First so we're

1144
00:54:55,800 --> 00:55:00,640
Speaker 2: still probably you, know two weeks away from actual ball being,

1145
00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:04,239
Speaker 2: played but we'll be an ota version here in probably ten.

1146
00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:07,000
Speaker 2: Days but to, me that first day every team is in,

1147
00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:10,520
Speaker 2: pads that's when you get real stuff going, on and you,

1148
00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:13,759
Speaker 2: know find out who can, play because right now half

1149
00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:17,000
Speaker 2: the league is pretty excited about fourth, rounders sixth, rounders third,

1150
00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:19,520
Speaker 2: rounders and then those pads come on and that, guy you,

1151
00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:21,399
Speaker 2: know within a couple of days, like, whoa we might

1152
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:24,279
Speaker 2: need to trade for a backup tight end because this

1153
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:24,959
Speaker 2: guy's a little.

1154
00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:30,680
Speaker 1: Overwhelmed, yeah IT'S i. Am it was funny WHEN i

1155
00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:33,759
Speaker 1: was on, VACATION i WAS i. Did i'd stay off

1156
00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:36,520
Speaker 1: my phone, mostly But i'd get the iPad AND i

1157
00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:40,880
Speaker 1: do a lot of reading on vacation. Books ANYTHING i

1158
00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:42,560
Speaker 1: don't want to. POST i don't want to you, KNOW

1159
00:55:43,120 --> 00:55:45,440
Speaker 1: i have NO i was on the phone one day

1160
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:47,279
Speaker 1: for about ten minutes And i'm, LIKE i don't care

1161
00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:51,040
Speaker 1: about bitcoin or The epstein. Files this is no place

1162
00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:54,040
Speaker 1: for me over the next ten, days So i'm. Out

1163
00:55:54,520 --> 00:55:59,040
Speaker 1: but it's it's interesting that you, know As i'm you,

1164
00:55:59,080 --> 00:56:02,839
Speaker 1: know reading all the stuff on THE nfl is THAT

1165
00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:07,759
Speaker 1: i used to FEEL i really. DID i think there

1166
00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:09,719
Speaker 1: was a part in my career about six years AGO

1167
00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:15,680
Speaker 1: i felt LIKE nfl season and waiting FOR nfl. Season

1168
00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:19,720
Speaker 1: BUT i think there's two or three things in sports

1169
00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:23,960
Speaker 1: that have happened THAT i sat and. WATCHED i, mean,

1170
00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:26,120
Speaker 1: dude did you ever think you would care about THE.

1171
00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:29,279
Speaker 1: Wnba Caitlin clark was on last week And i'm, like,

1172
00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:33,560
Speaker 1: oh the. TELEVISION i want to watch. Her i'll be

1173
00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:36,120
Speaker 1: honest with, YOU i was just about done with college

1174
00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:40,440
Speaker 1: basketball and it pulled me back in this. Year but

1175
00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:45,640
Speaker 1: AS i was reading all this stuff about the upcoming football,

1176
00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:47,680
Speaker 1: SEASON i want to ask you a question about college.

1177
00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:53,600
Speaker 1: Football we'll end it with. This so IF i, said

1178
00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:59,920
Speaker 1: using last five years his, momentum what is your high

1179
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:03,719
Speaker 1: school recruiting base and YOUR nil commitment and what is

1180
00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:06,839
Speaker 1: your coaching staff? Like so the four, things what's your

1181
00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:09,640
Speaker 1: current productivity and momentum for five, Years i'm going to

1182
00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:12,440
Speaker 1: give you five years your high school recruiting still has

1183
00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:15,000
Speaker 1: to be, elite and YOUR nil commitment has to be

1184
00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:18,680
Speaker 1: big boy. Like that's what Separates oregon And. Washington oregon's

1185
00:57:18,680 --> 00:57:23,240
Speaker 1: all in and, It washington's. Reluctant USC's all. In ucla

1186
00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:27,440
Speaker 1: is limited and, reluctant and the coaching. Staff SO i

1187
00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:30,360
Speaker 1: came up with my take on over the last five. Years,

1188
00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:34,520
Speaker 1: Now michigan's the hardest Because i'm so much of It's.

1189
00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:38,320
Speaker 1: Harbaugh BUT i thought the top five programs in college

1190
00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:41,360
Speaker 1: football right now for the last five years and the

1191
00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:45,240
Speaker 1: direction they're going Because alabama's HAVING nil problems and This

1192
00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:47,520
Speaker 1: kaitlin De bor is a great, coach but they haven't

1193
00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:51,920
Speaker 1: felt the. Same i'd Say Ohio state, One georgia, Two texas,

1194
00:57:51,960 --> 00:58:01,560
Speaker 1: Three oregon, Four Notre dame, five and Then Michigan Penn.

1195
00:58:01,640 --> 00:58:03,920
Speaker 1: STATE i don't quite know what to do With michigan

1196
00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:06,960
Speaker 1: because it's All Jim. Harbaugh that was kind of my

1197
00:58:07,080 --> 00:58:12,760
Speaker 1: six or. Seven so, Again Ohio, State, GEORGIA i Had.

1198
00:58:12,840 --> 00:58:18,800
Speaker 1: Alabama let's See Ohio, State, Georgia, Texas, Oregon Notre, Dame.

1199
00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:24,120
Speaker 1: Bama THEN i Had Michigan Penn. State my first take,

1200
00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:26,880
Speaker 1: is oh, SHIT i got More big ten teams THAN

1201
00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:31,400
Speaker 1: sec teams or three and. Three so IF i said to,

1202
00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:34,200
Speaker 1: you give me your top six or seven based on

1203
00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:39,680
Speaker 1: staff nil high school recruiting five year, momentum where are?

1204
00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:43,760
Speaker 2: You, YEAH i Think Ohio, State, georgia And texas have

1205
00:58:43,880 --> 00:58:46,000
Speaker 2: kind of. Separated like IF i just had to bet

1206
00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:48,160
Speaker 2: on those three programs over the next five, years you

1207
00:58:48,200 --> 00:58:51,680
Speaker 2: would feel really really. CONFIDENT i Think Notre dame and

1208
00:58:51,760 --> 00:58:54,760
Speaker 2: maybe they've loosened. Up the academic requirements can be very,

1209
00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:57,080
Speaker 2: dependent like is it a good couple years of high

1210
00:58:57,160 --> 00:58:59,640
Speaker 2: level smart guys who are great players coming? Out because

1211
00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:02,360
Speaker 2: if it is is whoever's on, Top, Stanford Notre, Dame

1212
00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:05,600
Speaker 2: northwestern can take advantage of that little stretch And Notre

1213
00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:07,800
Speaker 2: dame it feels like it's recruited really. Well SO i

1214
00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:09,320
Speaker 2: think there's a chance they would be in that mix

1215
00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:13,240
Speaker 2: TO i Think texas has the greatest opportunity to like

1216
00:59:13,760 --> 00:59:16,120
Speaker 2: they could, have like especially If arch lives up to the,

1217
00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:16,840
Speaker 2: hype WHICH i.

1218
00:59:16,840 --> 00:59:17,800
Speaker 1: SAW i don't know if you.

1219
00:59:17,800 --> 00:59:20,800
Speaker 2: Saw like A rogers brother said today that the hype

1220
00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:23,720
Speaker 2: train's out of, control AND i would almost agree a little.

1221
00:59:23,720 --> 00:59:27,440
Speaker 2: Bit it's it's We've he's almost treated Like lebron was

1222
00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:30,680
Speaker 2: At Saint vincent's Or Bryce harper was in high. School

1223
00:59:30,680 --> 00:59:33,439
Speaker 2: on this front of, sports it's this is really really.

1224
00:59:33,440 --> 00:59:36,040
Speaker 2: Hard usually when you get the hype behind, you it's

1225
00:59:36,080 --> 00:59:39,000
Speaker 2: after you, play Like andrew Lockeror Trevor lawrence Or caleb

1226
00:59:39,360 --> 00:59:41,880
Speaker 2: like you you, Know Baker, mayfield like you've played a.

1227
00:59:41,960 --> 00:59:45,440
Speaker 2: Season everyone's, like this guy's, incredible and he's already treated

1228
00:59:45,480 --> 00:59:47,920
Speaker 2: like he's going to be the greatest court better than his.

1229
00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:50,280
Speaker 2: Uncle and it's gonna be, hard especially in that. Conference

1230
00:59:50,320 --> 00:59:52,240
Speaker 2: but if he does live up to the, hype they're

1231
00:59:52,240 --> 00:59:54,479
Speaker 2: going to be an unstoppable force because of the money behind.

1232
00:59:54,520 --> 00:59:57,760
Speaker 2: THEM i do think the one you Know oregon as, well,

1233
00:59:58,000 --> 01:00:01,200
Speaker 2: right they have a financial, ABILITY i would, say a

1234
01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:03,720
Speaker 2: recruiting advantage on The west coast with some of these

1235
01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:07,960
Speaker 2: The pac twelve, splintering you, Know debor. Leaving you, Know jed's,

1236
01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:10,520
Speaker 2: good But debor had proven to be pretty. ELITE a

1237
01:00:10,560 --> 01:00:13,200
Speaker 2: lot of pressure On jed this week this. YEAR usc

1238
01:00:13,320 --> 01:00:16,160
Speaker 2: has just had a weird couple of years That oregon's benefited. From,

1239
01:00:16,240 --> 01:00:18,840
Speaker 2: obviously you, Know billota used to have to recruit AGAINST

1240
01:00:18,880 --> 01:00:21,080
Speaker 2: ucla as, well and it's like it wouldn't even be

1241
01:00:21,320 --> 01:00:23,000
Speaker 2: if you went into a kid's home IN, la you're

1242
01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:25,080
Speaker 2: gonna go To oregon OR. UCLA i, mean the kid

1243
01:00:25,080 --> 01:00:27,520
Speaker 2: wouldn't even hesitate to be a plane At oregon because

1244
01:00:27,640 --> 01:00:30,560
Speaker 2: it's just way better football. PROGRAM i do think THE

1245
01:00:30,600 --> 01:00:33,200
Speaker 2: sec is fascinating how it's gonna play, out THE, lsus

1246
01:00:33,320 --> 01:00:36,760
Speaker 2: the The, Alabamas like, financially can they keep up at the?

1247
01:00:36,920 --> 01:00:39,800
Speaker 2: LEVEL i was watching something recently where he thought the

1248
01:00:39,840 --> 01:00:42,960
Speaker 2: firing of, coaches which got really popular over the last

1249
01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:45,400
Speaker 2: decade because people would just buy this guy out for thirty,

1250
01:00:45,440 --> 01:00:48,640
Speaker 2: million is that dead because of how much you're paying the? Players,

1251
01:00:48,960 --> 01:00:51,200
Speaker 2: like BECAUSE i thought, like, hey If Kaylen debor just

1252
01:00:51,240 --> 01:00:53,120
Speaker 2: has a weird year and won like eight, games when

1253
01:00:53,160 --> 01:00:59,760
Speaker 2: he is buyout seventy five million. Dollars, well people asked

1254
01:00:59,760 --> 01:01:02,640
Speaker 2: me About Lincoln, riley And i'm, like Like i've told,

1255
01:01:02,720 --> 01:01:04,240
Speaker 2: PEOPLE i think they're going to win eight games this.

1256
01:01:04,320 --> 01:01:07,240
Speaker 2: Year they have one elite, player he's probably a top

1257
01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:09,880
Speaker 2: of the second, round mid second round. Player Kamari, ramsey

1258
01:01:09,880 --> 01:01:13,160
Speaker 2: the safety FROM, ucla really good. Player he'll he'll be

1259
01:01:13,440 --> 01:01:14,520
Speaker 2: probably a second round.

1260
01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:18,160
Speaker 1: Pick who's their. Quarterback it's the only time In Lincoln

1261
01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:20,600
Speaker 1: riley's CAREER i don't like their quarterback situation at. All

1262
01:01:20,640 --> 01:01:22,880
Speaker 1: the most talented, kids a true, freshman he's not going

1263
01:01:22,920 --> 01:01:25,440
Speaker 1: to go on The Big ten and spin it and be.

1264
01:01:25,520 --> 01:01:28,920
Speaker 1: Dominant and the kid that's, Starting, lincoln likes him more

1265
01:01:28,920 --> 01:01:31,120
Speaker 1: THAN i. Do the UN lv KID i, think you,

1266
01:01:31,160 --> 01:01:34,440
Speaker 1: KNOW i think he's a, gamer but his judgment he

1267
01:01:34,560 --> 01:01:36,840
Speaker 1: just makes too many mistakes for, me And lincoln doesn't like.

1268
01:01:36,920 --> 01:01:41,880
Speaker 1: That so you, KNOW i tell PEOPLE usc is doing

1269
01:01:41,880 --> 01:01:44,080
Speaker 1: a lot of things, right but you can't fire, him

1270
01:01:44,120 --> 01:01:48,280
Speaker 1: and you can't fire LIKE. Lsu, Basically Brian kelly had

1271
01:01:48,320 --> 01:01:51,080
Speaker 1: to basically, Say i'll give you a. Salary we have

1272
01:01:51,160 --> 01:01:54,160
Speaker 1: to start a pillion of the. Course and for the,

1273
01:01:54,200 --> 01:01:57,400
Speaker 1: Record alabama has been public with. It they're asking fans

1274
01:01:57,480 --> 01:02:02,800
Speaker 1: to give one, thousand fifteen. Hundred so where THE nil has?

1275
01:02:02,880 --> 01:02:07,720
Speaker 1: Changed college basketball is our, system our capitalistic. System Trump's.

1276
01:02:07,720 --> 01:02:12,560
Speaker 1: Europe so our universities are Buying europe's best, sixteen seventeen

1277
01:02:12,560 --> 01:02:14,680
Speaker 1: and eighteen year olds right or seventeen and eighteen year.

1278
01:02:14,680 --> 01:02:17,960
Speaker 1: Olds it's really hurt like The spanish, leagues and in

1279
01:02:18,000 --> 01:02:22,280
Speaker 1: football it's hurt The. South The Big ten has massive

1280
01:02:22,440 --> 01:02:27,600
Speaker 1: universities forty thousand, student fifty tho they become, graduates they run,

1281
01:02:27,680 --> 01:02:30,400
Speaker 1: companies they give money back to the. School it's much

1282
01:02:30,440 --> 01:02:34,640
Speaker 1: easier to tap Into Ohio state's fan, base Or michigan's fan,

1283
01:02:34,680 --> 01:02:37,120
Speaker 1: base Or Notre dame's fan. Base and as for ten,

1284
01:02:37,240 --> 01:02:41,000
Speaker 1: thousand thirty thousand dollars from, graduates, Now Notre dame's. Private

1285
01:02:41,120 --> 01:02:42,880
Speaker 1: but a lot of these big ten schools are. MASSIVE

1286
01:02:43,080 --> 01:02:46,080
Speaker 1: sec doesn't have as many of, those and SO i

1287
01:02:46,080 --> 01:02:50,520
Speaker 1: think what you're seeing the reality is is if everybody's

1288
01:02:50,560 --> 01:02:57,400
Speaker 1: allowed to PAY, Usc, Oregon Ohio, State, Michigan Notre, Dame

1289
01:02:58,120 --> 01:03:01,040
Speaker 1: Penn state's got big time. MONEY i think there's a

1290
01:03:01,080 --> 01:03:03,120
Speaker 1: reality as THE sec is looking up at some of

1291
01:03:03,160 --> 01:03:05,600
Speaker 1: these numbers outside Of georgia In texas and they don't

1292
01:03:05,640 --> 01:03:05,840
Speaker 1: have the.

1293
01:03:05,840 --> 01:03:08,800
Speaker 2: Funds, well have you followed The Texas tech story the

1294
01:03:08,840 --> 01:03:11,840
Speaker 2: former player that's the billionaire that's funding their. Program they

1295
01:03:11,840 --> 01:03:14,840
Speaker 2: had the number two transfer portal class in this upcoming.

1296
01:03:14,880 --> 01:03:17,959
Speaker 2: Season every one of The big twelve media, Days Kenny

1297
01:03:18,040 --> 01:03:22,040
Speaker 2: Dillingham dion was, like, guys this team is on paper

1298
01:03:22,280 --> 01:03:25,280
Speaker 2: the best team in the. Conference they bought the. TEAM i,

1299
01:03:25,280 --> 01:03:29,320
Speaker 2: MEAN i believe the word. RECRUITING i, remember like WHEN

1300
01:03:29,320 --> 01:03:33,120
Speaker 2: i was in, college ed was huge With pete at Sc.

1301
01:03:34,200 --> 01:03:37,680
Speaker 2: Tosshlupoy remember Ted ford was there were some big time.

1302
01:03:37,760 --> 01:03:40,520
Speaker 2: Recruiters saving had a couple when he took Over urban

1303
01:03:40,560 --> 01:03:42,480
Speaker 2: had a, couple and it was a big. Deal you'd

1304
01:03:42,560 --> 01:03:44,520
Speaker 2: sit out of someone's. Home you'd get to know the,

1305
01:03:44,560 --> 01:03:47,480
Speaker 2: player their high school, coach their. Parents that doesn't exist.

1306
01:03:47,480 --> 01:03:47,960
Speaker 1: Anymore.

1307
01:03:48,200 --> 01:03:51,480
Speaker 2: Kids there's no recruiters who pays, you. RIGHT i mean

1308
01:03:51,480 --> 01:03:53,800
Speaker 2: That's Lank kiffin's been saying this for like three. Years

1309
01:03:53,880 --> 01:03:56,720
Speaker 2: this is a black and white. Business, now there's no

1310
01:03:57,120 --> 01:03:58,760
Speaker 2: he likes me more than this next. Guy if that

1311
01:03:58,840 --> 01:04:01,000
Speaker 2: guy's offering four hundred grand and we're offer one hundred and,

1312
01:04:01,040 --> 01:04:03,320
Speaker 2: FIFTY i don't care that his mom likes.

1313
01:04:03,320 --> 01:04:04,160
Speaker 1: Me he always.

1314
01:04:04,200 --> 01:04:08,120
Speaker 2: Goes it's very rare that we've seen like ash and

1315
01:04:08,200 --> 01:04:10,360
Speaker 2: Genty state At Boise, state when even the coach was,

1316
01:04:10,360 --> 01:04:11,840
Speaker 2: like he turned down a lot of money to stay.

1317
01:04:11,880 --> 01:04:14,439
Speaker 2: Here so those days are. Done so WHEN i See

1318
01:04:14,480 --> 01:04:17,560
Speaker 2: Texas tech and they have this. Billionaire you, know if

1319
01:04:17,600 --> 01:04:20,000
Speaker 2: you told Me Oklahoma state And Tea Boon, pickens who's

1320
01:04:20,040 --> 01:04:22,440
Speaker 2: passed away it was thirty years, Ago i'd be, like

1321
01:04:22,440 --> 01:04:25,280
Speaker 2: that's a huge advantage Having Tea Boon Pickens Oklahoma, state

1322
01:04:25,480 --> 01:04:28,440
Speaker 2: but it. Changed he passed away The nike dynasty and

1323
01:04:28,480 --> 01:04:31,800
Speaker 2: that operation still. Operating phil still. Around if he passes,

1324
01:04:31,840 --> 01:04:32,920
Speaker 2: AWAY i would just, say you never.

1325
01:04:32,960 --> 01:04:35,160
Speaker 1: Know, well, yeah all you could do in The Phil

1326
01:04:35,280 --> 01:04:38,160
Speaker 1: night era was build the best. Facilities, yeah those were.

1327
01:04:38,200 --> 01:04:40,680
Speaker 1: Impressive but let me tell you. Something having a nice

1328
01:04:40,720 --> 01:04:43,040
Speaker 1: locker and having twenty five thousand dollars in your, pocket

1329
01:04:43,280 --> 01:04:44,880
Speaker 1: what are you gonna? Choose but here's the.

1330
01:04:44,880 --> 01:04:48,160
Speaker 2: Thing and EVEN i mean we're brown bagging. KIDS i

1331
01:04:48,160 --> 01:04:51,720
Speaker 2: mean we're talking twenty, grand, right thirty grand now where

1332
01:04:51,720 --> 01:04:55,040
Speaker 2: you're talking. Hundreds i'm not even talking to the, quarterbacks which

1333
01:04:55,080 --> 01:04:59,120
Speaker 2: is clearly in the. Millions just a solid recruit by

1334
01:04:59,200 --> 01:05:04,040
Speaker 2: costa several hundreds of thousands of. DOLLARS i know someone

1335
01:05:04,160 --> 01:05:07,320
Speaker 2: who has a rental property in a college town that

1336
01:05:07,520 --> 01:05:12,600
Speaker 2: rented their house to a rotational defensive lineman for That

1337
01:05:12,720 --> 01:05:16,040
Speaker 2: DIVISION i football, team and obviously you see the their,

1338
01:05:16,160 --> 01:05:20,480
Speaker 2: income and he was, like this guy is making hundreds

1339
01:05:20,520 --> 01:05:23,320
Speaker 2: of thousands of. Dollars this guy is not some lock draft.

1340
01:05:23,320 --> 01:05:27,080
Speaker 2: Pick is a rotational transfer portal guy that got paid

1341
01:05:27,440 --> 01:05:30,000
Speaker 2: several hundred thousand dollars and a program THAT i would

1342
01:05:30,040 --> 01:05:32,840
Speaker 2: say is not giving away. Money so when you're talking

1343
01:05:32,880 --> 01:05:36,640
Speaker 2: To georgia's The Ohio, states SOMETIMES i think people think

1344
01:05:36,680 --> 01:05:39,280
Speaker 2: like they're not really twenty thirty million dollars. Payrolls, no,

1345
01:05:39,400 --> 01:05:42,120
Speaker 2: guys this Is i'm telling You my scouting buddies say

1346
01:05:42,120 --> 01:05:45,640
Speaker 2: they go to these schools and there their player parking

1347
01:05:45,680 --> 01:05:48,160
Speaker 2: lots are as, nice if not, nicer because some of

1348
01:05:48,200 --> 01:05:50,120
Speaker 2: these guys are you, know they don't even. Realize and

1349
01:05:50,160 --> 01:05:54,240
Speaker 2: some of These mercedes dealerships than THEIR nfl, teams and

1350
01:05:54,440 --> 01:05:57,120
Speaker 2: they drive nicer. Cars and the, coaches you, know there's

1351
01:05:57,160 --> 01:05:59,240
Speaker 2: only a couple of coaches on staff now that make

1352
01:05:59,280 --> 01:06:00,320
Speaker 2: more than if you have a star.

1353
01:06:00,440 --> 01:06:02,520
Speaker 1: Quarterback so how you handle that.

1354
01:06:02,600 --> 01:06:05,360
Speaker 2: Dynamic the other thing, is AND i think about this

1355
01:06:05,400 --> 01:06:07,880
Speaker 2: a lot, too like the college FOOTBALL i grew up.

1356
01:06:07,920 --> 01:06:10,200
Speaker 2: On let's Use Matt lionard as an. Example played AT

1357
01:06:10,280 --> 01:06:14,080
Speaker 2: usc for five. Years these are relationships with his. Teammates you,

1358
01:06:14,120 --> 01:06:16,360
Speaker 2: know he lived in a small Apartment i'm sure for several,

1359
01:06:16,480 --> 01:06:19,000
Speaker 2: years even as they kind of grew in. Popularity his

1360
01:06:19,040 --> 01:06:23,080
Speaker 2: lifestyle wasn't anything near Like Caleb, williams but his relationships

1361
01:06:23,120 --> 01:06:25,000
Speaker 2: with that team by their last couple of years playing,

1362
01:06:25,040 --> 01:06:27,880
Speaker 2: together these guys have practice. Together they know each, other

1363
01:06:27,920 --> 01:06:30,800
Speaker 2: they know each other's. Family they have a strong build

1364
01:06:31,400 --> 01:06:34,840
Speaker 2: or built, relationship right Like Travis, Kelce Chris, Jones. Mahomes

1365
01:06:34,920 --> 01:06:35,960
Speaker 2: these guys know each.

1366
01:06:35,840 --> 01:06:36,680
Speaker 1: Other really really.

1367
01:06:36,680 --> 01:06:39,560
Speaker 2: Well those days are. Done guys are moving left and.

1368
01:06:39,640 --> 01:06:42,000
Speaker 2: Right you barely know this is still football in that

1369
01:06:42,040 --> 01:06:44,520
Speaker 2: game when it's tight game and you're, playing you, know

1370
01:06:44,640 --> 01:06:46,840
Speaker 2: in a cold. Environment if you're A usc and you're

1371
01:06:46,840 --> 01:06:49,640
Speaker 2: playing At Penn state and It's november, first you're, like

1372
01:06:50,320 --> 01:06:52,120
Speaker 2: do you even know the guy next to? You that's

1373
01:06:52,360 --> 01:06:55,160
Speaker 2: that part of. Football AND i think the basketball has

1374
01:06:55,200 --> 01:06:57,720
Speaker 2: really shown, This like basketball is a lot like football that,

1375
01:06:57,760 --> 01:07:01,000
Speaker 2: way where, chemistry cohesion, matters and these guys jump around.

1376
01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:04,080
Speaker 2: Teams it's like it's hard to build that chemistry and

1377
01:07:04,120 --> 01:07:06,760
Speaker 2: that cohesion and that you, know in a weird way.

1378
01:07:06,760 --> 01:07:07,800
Speaker 1: Like love of the other.

1379
01:07:07,840 --> 01:07:09,720
Speaker 2: Guy i'm fighting for this guy as much as the.

1380
01:07:09,760 --> 01:07:12,840
Speaker 2: Coach so you just kind of never. Know, Now like you,

1381
01:07:12,840 --> 01:07:15,320
Speaker 2: Said Georgia, tech they have the best, rosters BUT i

1382
01:07:15,360 --> 01:07:17,120
Speaker 2: don't think you can just chalk one of those. Up

1383
01:07:17,240 --> 01:07:19,120
Speaker 2: Like Ohio state got hot at the right time and

1384
01:07:19,160 --> 01:07:22,760
Speaker 2: they want, it but they folded Against michigan and they

1385
01:07:22,800 --> 01:07:24,600
Speaker 2: actually had a lot of guys coming. Back so some

1386
01:07:24,640 --> 01:07:27,439
Speaker 2: of these, teams these transferport LIKE lsu top transfer portal.

1387
01:07:27,480 --> 01:07:29,800
Speaker 2: Team you convinced, me if it all comes together they

1388
01:07:29,840 --> 01:07:31,720
Speaker 2: win twelve, games it wouldn't be shocked if they wont.

1389
01:07:31,720 --> 01:07:35,640
Speaker 1: EIGHT i don't. Know, YEAH i think the transfer, PORTAL,

1390
01:07:35,800 --> 01:07:39,760
Speaker 1: Lsu colorado AND usc have used it a, lot and

1391
01:07:39,880 --> 01:07:42,440
Speaker 1: all of them have lacked a certain chemistry and for sure.

1392
01:07:42,480 --> 01:07:47,479
Speaker 1: SPOTS i think you have to have. DISCRETION i still

1393
01:07:47,520 --> 01:07:51,240
Speaker 1: think you should be a seventy five. PERCENT i wouldn't

1394
01:07:51,280 --> 01:07:54,760
Speaker 1: go as dire As, clemson which is like anti, portal

1395
01:07:55,080 --> 01:07:57,360
Speaker 1: But i'd be like seventy five. Percent, RECRUITING i think

1396
01:07:57,400 --> 01:08:00,880
Speaker 1: if you can bring in again you need a left,

1397
01:08:00,880 --> 01:08:05,480
Speaker 1: guard you need to you, know you need the interior defensive.

1398
01:08:05,480 --> 01:08:07,520
Speaker 1: TACKLE i would. LOOK i would try to find like

1399
01:08:07,840 --> 01:08:10,600
Speaker 1: five to six starters a, year BUT i don't want.

1400
01:08:10,680 --> 01:08:11,920
Speaker 1: TEN i don't want to.

1401
01:08:11,920 --> 01:08:14,000
Speaker 2: Think that's easy to, say, Though but what if you

1402
01:08:14,320 --> 01:08:16,360
Speaker 2: don't have the best recruits and all of a, sudden

1403
01:08:16,360 --> 01:08:17,840
Speaker 2: you look like we can get these three guys that

1404
01:08:17,880 --> 01:08:20,640
Speaker 2: are immediately, better and there's so much money on the,

1405
01:08:20,720 --> 01:08:22,840
Speaker 2: line it's hard to say. No if the transfer, portal

1406
01:08:22,880 --> 01:08:23,559
Speaker 2: wouldn't you just see.

1407
01:08:23,560 --> 01:08:27,519
Speaker 1: THEM i think. PROOF i think for certain positions like

1408
01:08:28,000 --> 01:08:34,839
Speaker 1: quarterback or elite corner or like just elite interior defensive.

1409
01:08:34,840 --> 01:08:38,920
Speaker 1: Linemen BUT i think, AGAIN i think there's running backs and.

1410
01:08:38,920 --> 01:08:41,960
Speaker 1: WHY i, mean, LIKE usc should never pay wide. Receivers i'm,

1411
01:08:41,960 --> 01:08:44,879
Speaker 1: sorry in Southern, CALIFORNIA i don't want you pay wide. Receivers,

1412
01:08:45,000 --> 01:08:47,639
Speaker 1: dude you got. There there's thirty a year in Southern.

1413
01:08:47,640 --> 01:08:52,480
Speaker 1: CALIFORNIA i don't WANT usc paying big money for, safeties, linebackers.

1414
01:08:52,760 --> 01:08:56,920
Speaker 1: Corners there's just too much talent. Here quarterback you're going

1415
01:08:56,960 --> 01:09:00,560
Speaker 1: to have to. Pay but it's BECAUSE i had a

1416
01:09:00,560 --> 01:09:02,559
Speaker 1: discussion with somebody AT, usc AND i, said you, know

1417
01:09:02,600 --> 01:09:05,519
Speaker 1: you're paying positions that you should never pay AT. Usc

1418
01:09:05,720 --> 01:09:08,000
Speaker 1: you should not pay for, now if you need a

1419
01:09:08,120 --> 01:09:12,120
Speaker 1: sixth wide receiver From Boise, state you can't be paying

1420
01:09:12,120 --> 01:09:15,120
Speaker 1: wide receivers AT. Usc it would be you, know to,

1421
01:09:15,160 --> 01:09:20,080
Speaker 1: me it's like paying for running backs At. Georgia the

1422
01:09:20,120 --> 01:09:22,920
Speaker 1: state Of florida And. GEORGIA i mean, again maybe you

1423
01:09:23,000 --> 01:09:25,160
Speaker 1: pay a little bit to if you need like a,

1424
01:09:25,280 --> 01:09:27,920
Speaker 1: starter but there are certain regions of the country that

1425
01:09:28,040 --> 01:09:31,080
Speaker 1: just produce certain. Players and it's SO i don't, Know

1426
01:09:31,240 --> 01:09:35,360
Speaker 1: I'm I'M i think you create this weird ecosystem when

1427
01:09:35,360 --> 01:09:41,000
Speaker 1: you got nine guys Driving. Benz IT'S i don't, KNOW

1428
01:09:41,080 --> 01:09:44,800
Speaker 1: i don't. Love i'm not against players making a lot of,

1429
01:09:44,840 --> 01:09:48,559
Speaker 1: money BUT i Think i've WATCHED lsu AND usc And

1430
01:09:48,680 --> 01:09:52,800
Speaker 1: colorado really, divide like the room is like rich, guy

1431
01:09:53,360 --> 01:09:56,040
Speaker 1: not rich, guy and it's to me it feels weird

1432
01:09:56,080 --> 01:09:58,440
Speaker 1: over the course of a. Season do you alienate?

1433
01:09:58,479 --> 01:10:01,120
Speaker 2: Players, well the other thing is What i've heard, stories

1434
01:10:01,240 --> 01:10:03,080
Speaker 2: you know from my scouting, buddies is like the star.

1435
01:10:03,200 --> 01:10:05,080
Speaker 1: Quarterback, well think about.

1436
01:10:05,120 --> 01:10:07,160
Speaker 2: It there's a lot of star, quarterbacks but only a

1437
01:10:07,200 --> 01:10:09,599
Speaker 2: small percentage of them we would consider really good players

1438
01:10:10,120 --> 01:10:12,479
Speaker 2: live in this really expensive house a lot of, times

1439
01:10:12,479 --> 01:10:17,320
Speaker 2: like by. Themselves so historically everyone had roommates on the.

1440
01:10:17,360 --> 01:10:19,439
Speaker 2: Team those days are kind of done because all these

1441
01:10:19,439 --> 01:10:21,680
Speaker 2: guys are so. Rich it's, like why WOULDN'T i just

1442
01:10:21,720 --> 01:10:23,840
Speaker 2: rent a huge house by.

1443
01:10:23,880 --> 01:10:25,559
Speaker 1: MYSELF i don't need to have any.

1444
01:10:25,640 --> 01:10:28,599
Speaker 2: Roommates so that creates a divide of just the human

1445
01:10:28,640 --> 01:10:32,560
Speaker 2: element of these guys are, eighteen, nineteen twenty years. Old

1446
01:10:33,360 --> 01:10:35,320
Speaker 2: there's resentment in THE. Nfl you don't think there's going

1447
01:10:35,360 --> 01:10:37,280
Speaker 2: to become resentments, like, wait we're paying this guy this.

1448
01:10:37,400 --> 01:10:39,800
Speaker 2: Much i've been on the program for three. Years he's

1449
01:10:39,800 --> 01:10:42,479
Speaker 2: making quadruple What i'm, making AND i watched him in these.

1450
01:10:42,560 --> 01:10:45,240
Speaker 2: Games he folds like a. Tent SO i think it

1451
01:10:45,320 --> 01:10:48,760
Speaker 2: is a really really big challenge at college football to

1452
01:10:49,080 --> 01:10:52,120
Speaker 2: that dynamic of the wealth. Gap when we talk about

1453
01:10:52,160 --> 01:10:54,200
Speaker 2: the wealth gap a lot in, society you talk about college.

1454
01:10:54,240 --> 01:10:56,160
Speaker 2: FOOTBALL i mean all these, guys because the other thing,

1455
01:10:56,200 --> 01:10:58,240
Speaker 2: is if you're, young you're going to open your mouth

1456
01:10:58,280 --> 01:11:00,320
Speaker 2: and say what you're, making kind of show off. Off,

1457
01:11:00,520 --> 01:11:02,960
Speaker 2: sure everyone in that locker room knows who's making.

1458
01:11:03,040 --> 01:11:05,760
Speaker 1: What, yeah and then like you could, say, well it

1459
01:11:05,880 --> 01:11:09,200
Speaker 1: exists in pro, sports but there's a hierarchy to. IT

1460
01:11:09,520 --> 01:11:11,280
Speaker 1: i think it's weird to just all of a sudden

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01:11:11,320 --> 01:11:13,160
Speaker 1: you have a receiver and you go buy a wide

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01:11:13,200 --> 01:11:16,640
Speaker 1: receiver From louisville and now he makes more than like

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01:11:16,680 --> 01:11:19,439
Speaker 1: your junior who had eighty two catches last. Year it's,

1464
01:11:19,479 --> 01:11:22,719
Speaker 1: like that's. Weird that's a weird vibe in a locker.

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01:11:22,800 --> 01:11:24,800
Speaker 1: Room that's WHY i think in THE, Nfl john free

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01:11:24,880 --> 01:11:31,360
Speaker 1: agency discretion is maybe the Most Chris balder had said this.

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01:11:31,400 --> 01:11:34,680
Speaker 1: Before don't go shop in the first two, days explosive

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01:11:34,680 --> 01:11:38,600
Speaker 1: way to the, third the fourth, day seek. VALUE i

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01:11:38,680 --> 01:11:48,320
Speaker 1: think you create weird dynamics on a college. Campus all. Right,

1470
01:11:48,360 --> 01:11:51,719
Speaker 1: Finally John rahm finished Second spain The Live Golf. Tour

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01:11:51,840 --> 01:11:54,240
Speaker 1: now we go to The British. Open what's your vibe

1472
01:11:54,280 --> 01:11:54,639
Speaker 1: going into?

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01:11:54,680 --> 01:11:59,519
Speaker 2: It, well It's rory's, hometown so it's uh also fired. Up,

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01:12:00,080 --> 01:12:02,280
Speaker 2: yeah it's you, know he played well last week in

1475
01:12:02,320 --> 01:12:05,200
Speaker 2: The Scottish. Open to, me, THOUGH i Think rory Or

1476
01:12:05,240 --> 01:12:08,760
Speaker 2: John rahm is winning this. Tournament John, ram you, know

1477
01:12:08,920 --> 01:12:11,800
Speaker 2: last year obviously he made the transition to live you,

1478
01:12:11,800 --> 01:12:13,559
Speaker 2: KNOW i think it was a tough transition for. HIM

1479
01:12:14,240 --> 01:12:16,600
Speaker 2: i think this year he's really gained his. Footing he

1480
01:12:17,920 --> 01:12:20,920
Speaker 2: easily could have won THE. Pga he was essentially tied

1481
01:12:20,960 --> 01:12:22,800
Speaker 2: for the lead With scotty and he kind of fell

1482
01:12:22,800 --> 01:12:24,439
Speaker 2: apart the last couple of. Holes but it was, like

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01:12:24,479 --> 01:12:26,800
Speaker 2: this is The John ram who has won THE Us

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01:12:26,840 --> 01:12:28,840
Speaker 2: open and won The. Masters he's got a lot of.

1485
01:12:28,880 --> 01:12:33,400
Speaker 2: Momentum Obviously spain's a home game for. Him BUT i Think,

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01:12:33,439 --> 01:12:36,040
Speaker 2: JOHN i, mean this tournament is always, unique, Right it's

1487
01:12:36,080 --> 01:12:39,040
Speaker 2: on early in the, morning the, weather it's fifty mile

1488
01:12:39,040 --> 01:12:42,120
Speaker 2: an hour, wins it's rain and it's just you, know

1489
01:12:42,840 --> 01:12:45,120
Speaker 2: in the history of. Golf the best players have won this.

1490
01:12:45,200 --> 01:12:49,320
Speaker 2: Tournament and it's one On John rahm's. Resume LIKE i,

1491
01:12:49,320 --> 01:12:51,120
Speaker 2: think when it's all said and, done if you tell, Me,

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01:12:51,160 --> 01:12:53,559
Speaker 2: Scotti scheffler And John rahm are the two guys of

1493
01:12:53,600 --> 01:12:56,439
Speaker 2: this era After rory that win The Grand, SLAM i,

1494
01:12:56,479 --> 01:13:00,080
Speaker 2: mean win every major LIKE i could see. That and you,

1495
01:13:00,080 --> 01:13:02,640
Speaker 2: Know scotty has not played well across the.

1496
01:13:02,680 --> 01:13:03,439
Speaker 1: Pond a lot more.

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01:13:03,520 --> 01:13:06,400
Speaker 2: Variables right, wind it's not A bryson event, either you,

1498
01:13:06,439 --> 01:13:08,000
Speaker 2: know scientific you got, wind he.

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01:13:08,000 --> 01:13:08,400
Speaker 1: Can't he.

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01:13:08,439 --> 01:13:10,760
Speaker 2: Can't the greens are a little, slower you got, rain

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01:13:10,920 --> 01:13:11,519
Speaker 2: the balls were.

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01:13:11,720 --> 01:13:12,680
Speaker 1: Weird you.

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01:13:12,720 --> 01:13:14,599
Speaker 2: Know rom is one of those guys that would have

1504
01:13:14,680 --> 01:13:17,519
Speaker 2: succeeded in the, sixties in the. Nineties right now he

1505
01:13:17,560 --> 01:13:18,200
Speaker 2: can play in any.

1506
01:13:18,200 --> 01:13:20,240
Speaker 1: ERA i Think.

1507
01:13:20,320 --> 01:13:23,040
Speaker 2: Rom you could argue IS i Think rory is? Right

1508
01:13:23,080 --> 01:13:26,519
Speaker 2: he's not technically the betting Favorite scotty. Is but IF

1509
01:13:26,560 --> 01:13:29,160
Speaker 2: i had to handicap, THIS i would Have John rohm

1510
01:13:29,240 --> 01:13:31,880
Speaker 2: right there With. Rory Be i'm going to bet On

1511
01:13:31,920 --> 01:13:32,840
Speaker 2: John rahm this week for.

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01:13:32,880 --> 01:13:36,240
Speaker 1: Sure, well and as money has increased over the last you,

1513
01:13:36,240 --> 01:13:38,840
Speaker 1: know Since Tiger, woods you, know people are kind of.

1514
01:13:38,880 --> 01:13:41,880
Speaker 1: Mystified what's going on With rory, McElroy but he was

1515
01:13:41,920 --> 01:13:46,439
Speaker 1: on a hunting mission For augusta for fifteen. Years he got,

1516
01:13:46,479 --> 01:13:48,679
Speaker 1: it AND i think there was a. WAKE i think

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01:13:48,680 --> 01:13:51,800
Speaker 1: there was just this wake of emotion and he kind

1518
01:13:51,800 --> 01:13:55,880
Speaker 1: of acknowledged. It it's hard to get up and spend

1519
01:13:55,920 --> 01:13:59,400
Speaker 1: three hours in the sun in the late, spring in

1520
01:13:59,439 --> 01:14:02,920
Speaker 1: the summer grinding at. Golf you Win, augusta you want time.

1521
01:14:03,000 --> 01:14:06,519
Speaker 1: OFF i think this from The augusta win until this

1522
01:14:06,640 --> 01:14:11,719
Speaker 1: week playing on his home course, OVERSEAS i think everything

1523
01:14:11,760 --> 01:14:14,519
Speaker 1: else but in between that is a. BLUR i think

1524
01:14:14,560 --> 01:14:17,400
Speaker 1: at this point in his career it's big game. Hunting

1525
01:14:17,600 --> 01:14:19,599
Speaker 1: he is going for the biggest AND i think you're

1526
01:14:19,640 --> 01:14:22,040
Speaker 1: allowed to do. THAT i, mean and then you add

1527
01:14:22,120 --> 01:14:24,559
Speaker 1: that when guys took the money For live WHICH i always,

1528
01:14:24,600 --> 01:14:26,920
Speaker 1: RESPECTED i was, like, hey you, KNOW i got no

1529
01:14:27,000 --> 01:14:29,519
Speaker 1: problem with guys doing. That THE pga doesn't run The,

1530
01:14:29,520 --> 01:14:31,760
Speaker 1: masters it doesn't run THE Us, open it doesn't run

1531
01:14:31,800 --> 01:14:33,960
Speaker 1: The British i'm not loyal to THE. Pga i'm loyal to.

1532
01:14:34,040 --> 01:14:38,040
Speaker 1: Golfers i'm loyal To Brooks, Keepkar Phil mickelson Or rory.

1533
01:14:38,080 --> 01:14:43,280
Speaker 1: McElroy and my take is the finances of golf From

1534
01:14:43,320 --> 01:14:46,639
Speaker 1: tiger to The Live tour have, changed and guys are making.

1535
01:14:46,720 --> 01:14:49,120
Speaker 1: Choices it's like stars don't want to play in The

1536
01:14:49,120 --> 01:14:52,320
Speaker 1: Pro bowl in THE. Nfl stars make. Choices you don't

1537
01:14:52,360 --> 01:14:54,479
Speaker 1: Find Christian pulisic want doesn't want to play in The Gold.

1538
01:14:54,560 --> 01:14:56,960
Speaker 1: Cup lebron doesn't want to play in The Feeble World.

1539
01:14:57,040 --> 01:14:59,320
Speaker 1: Cup that's the reality of sports now in the last

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01:14:59,320 --> 01:14:59,519
Speaker 1: ten to.

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01:14:59,560 --> 01:15:02,559
Speaker 2: Fifteen AND i, think you, Know rom is a good.

1542
01:15:02,560 --> 01:15:04,880
Speaker 2: Example over the last couple of, Years scotty had This

1543
01:15:04,960 --> 01:15:08,799
Speaker 2: tiger like. Season rory now wins The. Masters he's anointed

1544
01:15:08,800 --> 01:15:10,400
Speaker 2: as like the you, know one of the great players

1545
01:15:10,400 --> 01:15:13,439
Speaker 2: of all. Time and it was Like rom got lost

1546
01:15:13,439 --> 01:15:15,120
Speaker 2: in the shuffle a couple of years. Ago it was

1547
01:15:15,120 --> 01:15:18,000
Speaker 2: like this guy's the Chubby sevy. Bollsteros this guy's gonna

1548
01:15:18,000 --> 01:15:19,920
Speaker 2: win a bunch of. Majors he's gonna be and then

1549
01:15:20,120 --> 01:15:22,280
Speaker 2: he kind of didn't have a great major season two years.

1550
01:15:22,280 --> 01:15:24,760
Speaker 2: Ago this year already back to back top tens in THE,

1551
01:15:24,840 --> 01:15:29,080
Speaker 2: us opening THE, Pga and to, me, he you, know international,

1552
01:15:29,120 --> 01:15:31,639
Speaker 2: players A Ryder cup guy used to, PLAYING i mean grew,

1553
01:15:31,720 --> 01:15:34,080
Speaker 2: up did not grow up in The. STATES i think

1554
01:15:34,120 --> 01:15:36,360
Speaker 2: those sometimes those guys have an advantage of we get

1555
01:15:36,360 --> 01:15:38,400
Speaker 2: spoiled over. HERE i mean all golf. Courses you were

1556
01:15:38,400 --> 01:15:40,320
Speaker 2: just playing a golf. Course i'm sure it was well,

1557
01:15:40,400 --> 01:15:43,320
Speaker 2: kept you, Know. Scotty scotty's over there at The Scottish

1558
01:15:43,320 --> 01:15:45,840
Speaker 2: open complaining about the green. Speed it's, like, Yeah, scotty

1559
01:15:46,360 --> 01:15:49,280
Speaker 2: their grass isn't perfect over. Here it's fifty degrees ten

1560
01:15:49,320 --> 01:15:52,920
Speaker 2: months a. Year This this Isn't, Dallas texas perfectly Manicure.

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01:15:53,040 --> 01:15:56,240
Speaker 2: Bermuda you. Know so those guys, typically to, me are

1562
01:15:56,280 --> 01:15:58,600
Speaker 2: a little. More it's what Made tiger pretty. Special you

1563
01:15:58,640 --> 01:16:00,519
Speaker 2: could put him. Anywhere you can put them the greatest,

1564
01:16:00,520 --> 01:16:03,040
Speaker 2: course greatest manicured, Course. Augusta you could throw him In

1565
01:16:03,120 --> 01:16:04,920
Speaker 2: asia and he'd be ready to kick ass and take.

1566
01:16:05,000 --> 01:16:07,120
Speaker 2: NAMES a lot of people thought That rohm had that

1567
01:16:07,240 --> 01:16:09,519
Speaker 2: kind of edge to, him Unless go To live threw

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01:16:09,560 --> 01:16:12,080
Speaker 2: him off a little. BIT i think he's. COMING i

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01:16:12,120 --> 01:16:16,120
Speaker 2: think it's him And rory this. WEEK i like those

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Speaker 2: two guys a.

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Speaker 1: Lot you can't wait it's gonna. BE i THOUGHT i

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01:16:19,720 --> 01:16:23,320
Speaker 1: thought That sunday At augusta With rory was a top

1573
01:16:23,439 --> 01:16:26,880
Speaker 1: TEN i mean that's how STRONGLY i felt that was

1574
01:16:26,920 --> 01:16:29,120
Speaker 1: a top TEN tv moment for me if you, could

1575
01:16:29,240 --> 01:16:31,000
Speaker 1: if you, can you, know and and by the, Way

1576
01:16:32,320 --> 01:16:35,720
Speaker 1: tiger Rock O media EIGHT Us open also hard to,

1577
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Speaker 1: be hard to, Be but there have been.

1578
01:16:37,720 --> 01:16:41,559
Speaker 2: Two or three Iconic i'd, Say i'd say The faldough

1579
01:16:41,600 --> 01:16:46,719
Speaker 2: melt or The norman, Meltdown feul, Meltdown vanderveld late nineties

1580
01:16:46,760 --> 01:16:49,120
Speaker 2: Meltdown British. Open but he wasn't a famous, guy was

1581
01:16:49,160 --> 01:16:52,160
Speaker 2: just as he wanted to. WORK i would Say tigers twenty.

1582
01:16:52,240 --> 01:16:55,080
Speaker 2: Nineteen you know that long stretch he had winning that

1583
01:16:55,160 --> 01:16:58,200
Speaker 2: was pretty. Cool BUT i would say The rory, moment

1584
01:16:58,320 --> 01:17:01,920
Speaker 2: the build up, THAT i would say the golf splintering,

1585
01:17:02,400 --> 01:17:05,320
Speaker 2: right so he and he became such a famous.

1586
01:17:04,960 --> 01:17:05,960
Speaker 1: Guy versus this kind of.

1587
01:17:06,000 --> 01:17:10,200
Speaker 2: Crew BUT i think that these majors now feel they

1588
01:17:10,200 --> 01:17:12,759
Speaker 2: feel amped up, right maybe feel on a different.

1589
01:17:12,800 --> 01:17:14,800
Speaker 1: Leave they've always been, big makes them.

1590
01:17:14,800 --> 01:17:17,679
Speaker 2: Big but you, KNOW i think this thing is gonna

1591
01:17:17,720 --> 01:17:19,280
Speaker 2: be really really big this.

1592
01:17:19,320 --> 01:17:22,520
Speaker 1: Week especially for the most, part we have had huge.

1593
01:17:22,320 --> 01:17:27,479
Speaker 2: Names win, recently, Right rory's The bryson's, Right scotti's rom,

1594
01:17:27,640 --> 01:17:30,439
Speaker 2: like this isn't the little engine that could ain't coming around.

1595
01:17:30,479 --> 01:17:34,000
Speaker 2: Anymore so IT'S i would expect the big boys and uh,

1596
01:17:34,040 --> 01:17:36,000
Speaker 2: LIKE i, THINK i THINK rom twelve to one when

1597
01:17:36,040 --> 01:17:38,680
Speaker 2: you're Talking scotty And rory are both six seven to.

1598
01:17:38,760 --> 01:17:41,240
Speaker 1: ONE i mean it's pretty good, value all. Right John,

1599
01:17:41,280 --> 01:17:44,840
Speaker 1: middlecoff FORMER nfl, scout three and outs of this. Podcast

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Speaker 1: we chopped it up for an. Hour good, stuff, Buddy

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Speaker 1: Thanks colin the volume