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Speaker 2: Welcome to I said, no. Gift temperature wineger. I can

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Speaker 2: What's going on? What's happening? Well, you know, I thought

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Speaker 3: What you do, Matt? Save it for the podcast? Sorry?

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Speaker 2: Sorry, it's a guest is very rude this morning.

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Speaker 3: I know, I know, I'm just I'm on tenter hooks.

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Speaker 2: This is a mystery for you that you're going to

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Speaker 3: I could now, listener.

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Speaker 2: Can you imagine? Can you imagine this is a professional.

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Speaker 3: Well, it'll you see what I brought a gift?

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Speaker 2: What's going on? I showed up to the office. They

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Speaker 2: It's Matt Gorley. Matt, I mean welcome.

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Speaker 3: That didn't seem sincere though welcome. I've already outstayed my

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Speaker 2: I know I should have just shut down the recording.

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Speaker 3: People are very excited. I hear there's the Tom Cruise

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Speaker 2: Have you tried it?

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Speaker 2: I would love nothing more. I think everyone at this

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Speaker 3: That's fair. It's not going to get back to him, right,

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Speaker 2: So but God blessed me he's keeping this bakery in business.

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Speaker 2: But I love that kind of candy. I never have it.

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Speaker 3: It does. It's there. Well, that's a blessing in a

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Speaker 2: No, just like if somebody made it poorly. Yeah. I

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Speaker 3: My parents lived in Saint George. Oh you're kidding.

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Speaker 2: It's also home to a lot of polygamists.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's not my parents. Well they could be. It

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Speaker 2: They are because the rest of my family is all stuck.

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Speaker 3: Was I so scared of you?

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Speaker 2: What were you doing there?

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Speaker 3: Well, we went to just a kind of bootique hotel

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Speaker 3: getaway that if we're speaking taste, what's the hotel it's called?

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Speaker 3: Like I could barely even pronounce it. Oh, Cracorea pension.

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Speaker 2: a deal. It's the best place in the world.

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Speaker 4: No, this whole thing was.

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Speaker 2: No are they reimbursing you?

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Speaker 2: If you had been at Sparrow's Lodge, you would have

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Speaker 3: This is a four stars. The writs you got a pad.

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Speaker 2: They let you have a s'more, which is wonderful. That

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Speaker 3: God, this sounds like wow.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and footwear and footwear and it's just nothing. You

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Speaker 2: I mean, in thirty seconds, we've thought of several new

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Speaker 3: And why did I say he? It could easily be

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Speaker 2: It could be in anything. It's a it could be

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Speaker 3: Think at any cost avoiding mad at dinner having been there.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, yeah every other night.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this is what we're in for. I guess this

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Speaker 3: Oh of course that's what you just sign on.

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Speaker 2: Birthdays are hard to I think there's a lot of

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Speaker 3: Which I think is a great idea. Back to the

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Speaker 3: I don't know. Yeah, what have you have You ever

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Speaker 3: I do too.

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Speaker 2: I said some very hard guidelines. I send an email

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Speaker 2: And for the most part, is a nice time. But

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Speaker 2: I'd rather be well, I don't even know if i'd

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Speaker 2: I don't like to.

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Speaker 3: Have a party. You like them in theory. I like

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Speaker 2: I almost feel like I would like to send out

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Speaker 2: What if people don't respond and suddenly you're you're the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and then if you're on your thirteenth dinner in

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, Then that's also ruining your life. I don't

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Speaker 3: Understand.

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Speaker 2: I thought, Matt will come over, we'll have a nice time,

445
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Speaker 2: he won't interrupt the intro.

446
00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:41,840
Speaker 3: We'll just be civil with each.

447
00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:46,280
Speaker 2: Other and try to start the year off right. So

448
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Speaker 2: I was a little surprised when I walked in and

449
00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:53,879
Speaker 2: saw you holding what is from where I'm sitting, clearly

450
00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:58,720
Speaker 2: a gift podcast is called. I said, no gifts. Yeah,

451
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Speaker 2: don't you have anything to say about this.

452
00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:04,000
Speaker 3: I just want you to know that going into this,

453
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Speaker 3: I know I was breaking the code.

454
00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:08,200
Speaker 2: Okay, so just right off the badge.

455
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Speaker 3: And it's not like I didn't struggle with it now.

456
00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:12,920
Speaker 3: In fact, I think I tailored the gift as a

457
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Speaker 3: kind of acknowledgment to interesting Oh yeah, And I felt

458
00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:20,000
Speaker 3: like the only way to do this is to hedge

459
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Speaker 3: my bets. I have to give you a gift, okay,

460
00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:24,600
Speaker 3: regardless of how no other guest in the history of

461
00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:26,520
Speaker 3: the podcast has ever given you a gift. I want

462
00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:29,520
Speaker 3: to be the first to just break that rule. And

463
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Speaker 3: so I made use some things that you can use

464
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Speaker 3: for me or for future guests that bring you gifts.

465
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Speaker 2: Oh wonderful. Okay, well I'm glad to hear it was

466
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Speaker 2: hard for you.

467
00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:40,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was hard. Okay, it still is hard.

468
00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:47,600
Speaker 2: It's in this wonderful little plaid red and black bag.

469
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Speaker 3: You can use that as a little belt satchel. Yes, okay,

470
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Speaker 3: well open it? Oh wait did you make these? I

471
00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:57,160
Speaker 3: made you some no thank you cards?

472
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Speaker 2: Eight no thank you cards and they look like real cars.

473
00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:03,680
Speaker 3: Well should open? Yeah, sure, go for it. What is this?

474
00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:08,000
Speaker 3: Is this elastic? That's my daughter's jewelry bead elastic? Oh?

475
00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:08,520
Speaker 3: I like this.

476
00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:10,840
Speaker 2: I've never seen something like that before, kind of a

477
00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:12,000
Speaker 2: rainbow elastic.

478
00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:12,800
Speaker 3: I need that back.

479
00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:15,360
Speaker 2: Of course, this is this literally costs you a port.

480
00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:17,080
Speaker 3: That's the real gift.

481
00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:21,320
Speaker 2: This is a family heirloom. I wouldn't want to keep

482
00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:23,640
Speaker 2: that of course. These okay, so this first one says

483
00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:25,840
Speaker 2: you have deliberately disobeyed me, and it says my name

484
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Speaker 2: on the front.

485
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Speaker 3: This is great.

486
00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:34,040
Speaker 2: And then real friends don't give gifts you did you

487
00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:35,560
Speaker 2: handwrite all of that?

488
00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:36,440
Speaker 3: Yeah?

489
00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:40,680
Speaker 2: This is like genuinely nice and different types of styles

490
00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:43,880
Speaker 2: of handwriting fonts. I guess is it a font when

491
00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:44,880
Speaker 2: you write it with your hand?

492
00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:48,840
Speaker 3: That's a good question. M No. I think the font

493
00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:51,639
Speaker 3: is the size all right, and it's a type face

494
00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:54,399
Speaker 3: type face, so I can't be a t it's a

495
00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:55,080
Speaker 3: hand face.

496
00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:59,280
Speaker 2: It's a hand face, a handwriting, A handwriting to you,

497
00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:04,040
Speaker 2: I say, boo hiss, I said no gifts. This is gorgeous. Thanks,

498
00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:05,879
Speaker 2: but no thanks because I said no gift.

499
00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:08,240
Speaker 3: How long did this take you? Well, I had a

500
00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:11,520
Speaker 3: little time at my daughter's dance class, so I brought this.

501
00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:13,240
Speaker 2: You're busy ignoring your daughter's style.

502
00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:16,680
Speaker 3: I think this dance class has those kind of mirrors,

503
00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:19,240
Speaker 3: like an interrogation room. I can't see in what I

504
00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:21,719
Speaker 3: know what I know.

505
00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:23,879
Speaker 2: They can see out, but you can't see in. That

506
00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:24,560
Speaker 2: feels backward.

507
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Speaker 3: It does feel backwards. I don't understand it. This feels

508
00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:29,480
Speaker 3: also that we tried to cancel and they won't let

509
00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:31,720
Speaker 3: us out, so we have another month, but then we're done.

510
00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:34,040
Speaker 3: How long has it been a year? No, it's been

511
00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:37,520
Speaker 3: a few months. Oh my god, what a scam. They're

512
00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:38,840
Speaker 3: like multi level.

513
00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:41,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's they might not even be dancing in there.

514
00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:42,159
Speaker 2: They might just haven't seen it.

515
00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:45,440
Speaker 3: Quietly, she comes out in full makeup, like.

516
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Speaker 2: Is she uh, what sort of dancing is she learning?

517
00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:52,800
Speaker 3: It's tapping jazz? Oh, okay, is that right? No tap

518
00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:54,879
Speaker 3: in ballet. I don't know. I can't see it.

519
00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:59,560
Speaker 2: I don't know, right, Okay, this is I look, I look,

520
00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:02,439
Speaker 2: I said, And then there's a somebody giving the finger

521
00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:05,479
Speaker 2: and then inside, oh gifts.

522
00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:06,919
Speaker 3: That one's got one inside?

523
00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:09,160
Speaker 2: Are you an artist? Draw?

524
00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:11,800
Speaker 3: That depends on the day. I think you. Did you

525
00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:15,200
Speaker 3: study art in school? I studied, Yeah, I studied. I

526
00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:18,480
Speaker 3: went to study art and graphic design, but I was

527
00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:22,040
Speaker 3: told by instructor that I was seduced by the line,

528
00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:27,080
Speaker 3: so I moved to scenic design. My undergrad degree is

529
00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:30,199
Speaker 3: in scenic design. Or seduced by the line. What does

530
00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:32,919
Speaker 3: that even mean? I think? To him it was like,

531
00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:36,560
Speaker 3: you need more form and shadow and abstract where I

532
00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:39,159
Speaker 3: think I'm an illustrator. So that's why I was I

533
00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:41,840
Speaker 3: kind of like to you know, like this correct graphic

534
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Speaker 3: very right right.

535
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Speaker 2: This is to me, you will always be truly inconsiderate,

536
00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:50,960
Speaker 2: I said, no, gifts, this is incredible. I'm gonna have

537
00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:52,040
Speaker 2: to give these away to guests.

538
00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:53,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's yeah, you can do that, thank you.

539
00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:56,760
Speaker 2: But I said no gifts with a big what do

540
00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:59,440
Speaker 2: we call this? I just always say ghostbusters thing.

541
00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:02,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, don't don't.

542
00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:06,960
Speaker 2: Sign no smoking. But it's over a gift. Gorgeous. Thanks

543
00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:12,439
Speaker 2: but dot dot dot you failed. That's a nice I

544
00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:15,840
Speaker 2: can save this for all sorts of occasions. Actually, and

545
00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:18,280
Speaker 2: then oh and these are all the envelope. This is gorgeous,

546
00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:21,680
Speaker 2: absolutely stunning. And you did these while your daughter was learning.

547
00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:24,760
Speaker 3: For the most part. Yeah, I think I think. Do

548
00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:27,480
Speaker 3: they give you a desk and pens? I was just

549
00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:30,920
Speaker 3: doing them on a creaky chair last night.

550
00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:34,040
Speaker 2: This all happened last night. Yeah, this would have taken

551
00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:34,680
Speaker 2: me months.

552
00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:39,000
Speaker 3: No, they're not. Yes, they are.

553
00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:42,600
Speaker 2: The listener will see on Instagram or YouTube video. Get

554
00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:45,239
Speaker 2: to see it on video. Very exciting that these are

555
00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:46,600
Speaker 2: actually like professional level.

556
00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:48,320
Speaker 3: That's kind.

557
00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:51,200
Speaker 2: But I don't give me a break. Come on, stop fishing.

558
00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:54,840
Speaker 3: You already said it. How can I be fishing. I'm

559
00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:56,960
Speaker 3: trying to stop it. I'm throwing that fish back in

560
00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:59,520
Speaker 3: the ocean. You're looking for more? No, I don't want it.

561
00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:00,880
Speaker 3: Go on insatiable.

562
00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:05,840
Speaker 2: Okay, So your daughter's learning tap and chance.

563
00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:09,359
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, learning is it was this her idea or

564
00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:14,480
Speaker 3: the parent's idea. I think I think she likes dancing,

565
00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:17,679
Speaker 3: but it wasn't like she said, what's dance class? And

566
00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:21,280
Speaker 3: when can I do it? You know she's four? She's four, Okay.

567
00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:23,080
Speaker 2: Does she seem to be enjoying it?

568
00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:25,760
Speaker 3: Yes? She does. One of her great friends at school

569
00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:27,639
Speaker 3: is there so much so that when the dance class

570
00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:30,760
Speaker 3: is over, her father and my and myself, we can't

571
00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:34,200
Speaker 3: pull them apart. They're holding to each other, screaming at times.

572
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:36,440
Speaker 3: We had a rough goodbye last night.

573
00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:41,840
Speaker 2: What's happening behind that mirror? Get out of this class?

574
00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:46,159
Speaker 3: Try trauma? I can't. And it's like the hotel that

575
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:49,120
Speaker 3: we were at. It's just do you engage? Do you fight? When?

576
00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:51,840
Speaker 3: Is when I've had to choose my battles in these things.

577
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:53,960
Speaker 2: It seems like you're just gonna roll over every time.

578
00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:56,120
Speaker 3: Well I used to be the opposite, but you get

579
00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:57,680
Speaker 3: to a place where you like, is it worth it?

580
00:25:57,760 --> 00:25:59,840
Speaker 2: Is it worth it just to stand up for myself?

581
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:02,359
Speaker 3: And then I would stand up for myself with trivial things.

582
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:06,280
Speaker 3: Now something as big as a bathtub or a dance class.

583
00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:07,920
Speaker 3: This is kind of my problem.

584
00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:09,760
Speaker 2: I don't set up for myself often enough, then I

585
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:12,399
Speaker 2: find a situation where I'm like, oh, that's probably not

586
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:14,240
Speaker 2: worth standing up for myself, and then I do, and

587
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:17,919
Speaker 2: then I embarrass I'm embarrassed by it. Never stand up

588
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:18,920
Speaker 2: for myself again.

589
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:20,760
Speaker 3: Basically, I wrestle with it.

590
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:21,879
Speaker 2: How are you as a dancer?

591
00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:27,879
Speaker 3: I'm good when I'm prepared to give into it, okay,

592
00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:30,879
Speaker 3: but that's not most of the time. Most of the

593
00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:33,520
Speaker 3: time I'm self conscious about it, right, But when I

594
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:35,920
Speaker 3: let go and go, I think I can dance in

595
00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:40,200
Speaker 3: what sort of situation like a wedding, a fun wedding? Okay, Yeah,

596
00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:42,560
Speaker 3: I don't find myself in dancing situations much more than that,

597
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:44,560
Speaker 3: although I dance at home with my daughter and my wife,

598
00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:45,520
Speaker 3: like we dance around the house.

599
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:50,359
Speaker 2: You're dancing team, yes, captain captain of course, and please

600
00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:53,359
Speaker 2: refer to me from captain dance dance.

601
00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:56,080
Speaker 3: What are you dancing to around the house? Oh, you

602
00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:59,560
Speaker 3: name it. It's a lot of K pop demon hunters.

603
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:03,480
Speaker 3: I got her onto like a prayer, which she likes. Yeah,

604
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 3: I'm trying to kind of get some things I like

605
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:09,040
Speaker 3: in there, but they're not really taking but a lot

606
00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:11,200
Speaker 3: of Disney Okay, sure. Sure.

607
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:14,199
Speaker 2: What was the K Pop Demon Hunter's Journey for you

608
00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:14,840
Speaker 2: as a parent?

609
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:17,119
Speaker 3: I brought it home you. I was patient zero.

610
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:21,240
Speaker 2: Wow, I know, fascinating. That is not how I would

611
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:21,919
Speaker 2: have imagined that.

612
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:22,000
Speaker 4: Go.

613
00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 3: I don't think it's how it happens most times. But

614
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:26,720
Speaker 3: I had heard about I think most of my podcast

615
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:29,200
Speaker 3: listening is film based, and so I had heard enough

616
00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:31,919
Speaker 3: about it. And I was pretty big in anime when

617
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:34,399
Speaker 3: I was younger, okay, okay, and I just know my

618
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 3: daughter's tastes and I was like, she's she's going to

619
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:38,080
Speaker 3: go crazy for this.

620
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:41,159
Speaker 2: So you were an early adopter then, I guess I was.

621
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:43,720
Speaker 2: I don't like it kind of just was suddenly the

622
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:47,000
Speaker 2: biggest thing in the universe. But I don't what did

623
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:48,960
Speaker 2: Netflix like release it and then it quietly started to

624
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:49,960
Speaker 2: become a big thing or was it?

625
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:50,440
Speaker 1: Oh?

626
00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:54,240
Speaker 3: Interesting? It was the I think their biggest week after

627
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:57,120
Speaker 3: week growth film they've ever had.

628
00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:01,000
Speaker 2: Maybe congratulations to net I know, God, we're rooting for them.

629
00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:05,720
Speaker 3: We will. You're gonna be calling them for your bank

630
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:06,520
Speaker 3: fees pretty soon.

631
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:09,760
Speaker 2: Have my Netflix debit card?

632
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:10,920
Speaker 3: Wow.

633
00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 2: Wow, So that's a father to daughter interesting?

634
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:14,879
Speaker 3: Yeah?

635
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,680
Speaker 2: And how was she immediately into it or was it

636
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:19,520
Speaker 2: something where she had to figure it out? Because to me,

637
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:21,920
Speaker 2: it doesn't make sense for like a child, like it

638
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:23,919
Speaker 2: feels kind of for teens or something.

639
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:26,440
Speaker 3: I think you're right. I don't want to like say

640
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:31,280
Speaker 3: my daughter has advanced tastes. But she likes when people

641
00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:36,480
Speaker 3: are scared. She loves when people are in danger, hurt

642
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 3: or scared within the thing, not with, not the viewing part,

643
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 3: not always, not always.

644
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:46,480
Speaker 2: She loves like a good like ouchy story okay, or

645
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:49,240
Speaker 2: fall down story or why did you cry?

646
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:53,640
Speaker 3: So she's cruel, She's just a cruel heart curious. Yeah,

647
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:57,600
Speaker 3: I wouldn't call her cruel, but she's she's experimenting with it.

648
00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:01,200
Speaker 2: This is this is a scary person I know.

649
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 3: Is she currently an only child? She is until January

650
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 3: siblings for Room Awakening. Yeah, well she might also be

651
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:14,200
Speaker 3: that's that thing. I mean, our daughter Glenn. She's really incredible.

652
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 3: She's just a whirlwind. She's Tasmanian double right right, And

653
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,200
Speaker 3: everybody keeps saying, oh, well you've got that. Now you're

654
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:22,720
Speaker 3: going to have the calm one on the what if

655
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 3: this is the call one?

656
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 2: Oh right, that's always a possibility. Something much worse could

657
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 2: be around the term I see around them. I don't

658
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 2: know what the phrase is, around the band, around the bend,

659
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:38,719
Speaker 2: around around the works. Yeah, it all applies to babies

660
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 2: being born. Yeah, speaking of scary things, I just saw

661
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 2: Paranormal Activity the play about it.

662
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 3: I have heard about this because I teach theater online

663
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 3: and they have to see a play and someone wrote

664
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Speaker 3: a critique on this play. What did they have to

665
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:58,680
Speaker 3: say about it? Just that they were pleasantly surprised. They

666
00:29:58,720 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 3: never thought it could be as good as one of

667
00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 3: them movies, and they liked it. I was shocked.

668
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 2: I really expected a tacky time and it wasn't. I

669
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 2: don't see enough place to really say, but it seemed

670
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:13,280
Speaker 2: done well enough that I wasn't like, well this is

671
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:14,880
Speaker 2: it's embarrassing when I'm here.

672
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:18,600
Speaker 3: It's not campy, it's it's just no, it's very sincere.

673
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:19,920
Speaker 3: It's very it really.

674
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 2: I mean, my complaints would probably be that it just

675
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:25,600
Speaker 2: like in order to build tension. It's just extremely boring

676
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 2: up until the scary part.

677
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:28,440
Speaker 3: Yes, that's their memo.

678
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:31,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like the first half an hour. I was

679
00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:33,520
Speaker 2: a little dozing off until the first big scare. Then

680
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 2: I was awake for the rest of the time, and

681
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:37,640
Speaker 2: I'm not easily scared by things. My boyfriend as he

682
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 2: was freaking out, but I at least kind of it

683
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:44,640
Speaker 2: registered for me that it could be scary to other people.

684
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:49,760
Speaker 2: So you have your emotions, might just make it inside,

685
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 2: but you acknowledge the listener knows. I feel nothing. I

686
00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 2: have a long history of feeling I absolutely nothing.

687
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 3: I've heard of that for like empathy when people go

688
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 3: through hard time, but for scares, I've never heard of

689
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 3: that kind of lack of empathy for I guess you're

690
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 3: saying you have empathy for scares, but you can't feel

691
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:15,640
Speaker 3: it yourself. Yeah, I guess. Okay, Well that's admirable. Is

692
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 3: that a psychopath? No? No, I think that's the opposite

693
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 3: of a psychopath. You can't help that you're superhuman and

694
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 3: not afraid of anything on this earth.

695
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 2: But I'm a very strong man.

696
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 3: Yes, but that you empathize that weaker people.

697
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:30,720
Speaker 2: Can, right right, Okay, Yes, I'll lead us into whatever

698
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,480
Speaker 2: scary thing the world is headed towards because it won't

699
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:33,960
Speaker 2: scare me.

700
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:34,960
Speaker 3: Okay, but it was.

701
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 2: There were some frightening moments there were I tried to

702
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 2: I was like, is this a play or is it

703
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 2: a magic show or some moments where it's like, well,

704
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:44,240
Speaker 2: this is more of an illusion or a magic trick

705
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 2: than a I don't know. It was scary enough. I

706
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 2: didn't expect how like, how could a play possibly scare people?

707
00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 3: Right? People were shrieking, the audience shrieking. Were they coming

708
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:56,400
Speaker 3: out in the audience at all? Was there anything nothing

709
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 3: like that at all? Yeah?

710
00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:00,200
Speaker 2: I kind of expected something like that, and it was

711
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 2: all on stage, and uh, yeah, I've said this, but

712
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 2: I think the moral of the play was essentially, don't

713
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 2: run anybody over with your car.

714
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:11,920
Speaker 3: That willet.

715
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 2: It's not even morals, that's just put it on your lists,

716
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:24,120
Speaker 2: don't run anyone over. But yeah, do you get scared easily?

717
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 3: I do? Yeah, jump scares. It's not that I'm scared.

718
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:31,280
Speaker 3: I don't get scared, like existentially afraid of that. I

719
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 3: do have plenty of other things in life, but movies,

720
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 3: it's more just when is it coming? When is it coming?

721
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:36,240
Speaker 1: Right?

722
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess I do get scared.

723
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:41,360
Speaker 2: I feel like people really complain about jump scares and

724
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:43,240
Speaker 2: say they're cheap or whatever, but I feel like that's

725
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 2: kind of the only way you can get me at

726
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:45,160
Speaker 2: this point.

727
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 3: I don't. I think, when done well, they're the best.

728
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:50,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so so much fun. Yeah yeah, but other things, ghosts,

729
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:53,320
Speaker 2: that kind of thing don't really do anything for me either.

730
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 3: I think I'm much more scared of like a slasher film,

731
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 3: because it could really happen exactly than ghost. I like

732
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 3: certain ghost movies. I like to believe for the movie

733
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 3: that it's fun, but I'm not gonna go to bed

734
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:07,320
Speaker 3: worried that, you know, Annabelle's coming or whatever.

735
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love I mean, my number one favorite is

736
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 2: a haunted house movie, but there aren't enough of those. Yeah,

737
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 2: And most of the haunted house movies now take place

738
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 2: in new builds, which I don't like.

739
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 3: All the paranormal. Yeah, it's like talking new builds in

740
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 3: like Corona, California, ex these. Yeah.

741
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 2: No, I need some sort of Victorian, some sort of

742
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 2: wind Chester or mystery house vibe.

743
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:30,240
Speaker 3: Do you have a favorite Haunted house movie?

744
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:31,240
Speaker 2: I love The Haunting.

745
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 3: I was just gonna say the Haunting, the original?

746
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 2: What if I loved the ninety nine on that.

747
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:38,400
Speaker 3: Something to be said like a miss fire. I know

748
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:41,120
Speaker 3: it was, it was. I can't even say because we

749
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 3: rented that like three years ago, and I fell Asleep

750
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 3: Pathway Through right, who's in it? It's like Catherine Zada Jones,

751
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:54,880
Speaker 3: Liam Neeson, Ellen Wilson, and Lily what's her name? Lily Taylor? Yeah,

752
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 3: I think so, but not the new Lily Taylor.

753
00:33:57,120 --> 00:34:00,280
Speaker 2: Now there's an old Wait what Lily Taylor want point?

754
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:03,320
Speaker 2: Oh Lily Taylor is? I don't know who Lily Taylor

755
00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 2: even is? My Lily reach out. My apologies are, but

756
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 2: I don't know this person.

757
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 3: The new is the wait, who's David Harbor's girlfriend that

758
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:14,880
Speaker 3: he cheated on? Lily Allen? Okay, that's Lily Allen is

759
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:17,880
Speaker 3: not in and it must be Lily Taylor. Lily Taylor,

760
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:19,760
Speaker 3: you've probably got it brought up on your screen.

761
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:23,440
Speaker 2: You could say, we're going to guess light you from here.

762
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 2: You're not seeing that whatever your reality is back there

763
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:30,919
Speaker 2: is not true Lily Taylor. Interesting Now, I've I only

764
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:32,600
Speaker 2: ever saw the trailer of it, and I love the

765
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:34,799
Speaker 2: original so much that I thought I'll stay away from

766
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:36,799
Speaker 2: the originally, and I love the book too. Oh I'm

767
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:40,600
Speaker 2: never really spooky, really very spooky, and the original movie

768
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 2: is kind of.

769
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 3: Very I've heard it really holds up and yeah, I've

770
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 3: seen it. But it's been a long time.

771
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:48,399
Speaker 2: Has a lot of loud, the loud pounding noise which

772
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:51,720
Speaker 2: is bright. Oh yeah, that's kind of mysterious coming from nowhere.

773
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 2: But that's probably my number one favorite horror movie. Oh

774
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:56,960
Speaker 2: that the Shining Strangers.

775
00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:00,319
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, those are all good. Haunted house, haunted ho tell,

776
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 3: haunted cabin.

777
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 2: But haunted home invasion, yeah, haunted.

778
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, do you have a favorite? I mean, I have

779
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:12,920
Speaker 3: a long history with Halloween and I love it. Okay,

780
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:14,279
Speaker 3: I hate it. What's this long?

781
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:17,480
Speaker 2: Well, I just was shown it as a small the

782
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 2: movie itself. I thought you're talking about just the holiday

783
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 2: and general.

784
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:22,479
Speaker 3: My babysitter made me watch it when I was young,

785
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:25,840
Speaker 3: and so shaped my life more than I care to admit.

786
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 3: And so I have always had this morbid fascination and

787
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:32,799
Speaker 3: I love it. And then the house is in South Pasadena.

788
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 3: Every year for Halloween we go, rather than visit Santa

789
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 3: Claus at Christmas, we take my daughter to see Michael Myers.

790
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:41,279
Speaker 3: How does she feel about that? Well, it varies from

791
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:43,040
Speaker 3: year to year. This year she did want to go

792
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:44,799
Speaker 3: near it, and we don't force it on her, right,

793
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:47,839
Speaker 3: But it is funny because these are not like professionally

794
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:51,960
Speaker 3: associated Michael Myers's. They're just people dressed up so you'll

795
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 3: get like a tall one, a short one of brand show.

796
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:57,840
Speaker 3: When every variety of Michael Myers you can imagine sex Michael.

797
00:35:59,080 --> 00:35:59,759
Speaker 3: They're all there.

798
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 2: Every Michael Myers is a sexy Michael Myers. That's what's

799
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:06,880
Speaker 2: happening under that jumpsuit. They should have a Santa at

800
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:07,400
Speaker 2: that house.

801
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 3: They should.

802
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:11,319
Speaker 2: I just feel like we make that a year round destination.

803
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:13,400
Speaker 3: Because now it looks almost like a gingerbread house. Right,

804
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 3: it's been restored and it's very Victorian. It's kind of

805
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:20,319
Speaker 3: by the train. It's right, it's probably fifteen feet maybe

806
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:23,320
Speaker 3: too close, too close, ruining if the train derailed. The

807
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:24,799
Speaker 3: first thing to go is the Myers house.

808
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 2: And what about what's the character's name, Laurie, Laurie Strode

809
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:29,759
Speaker 2: is her house in the same area.

810
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:32,839
Speaker 3: It's if you walk across the street and then a

811
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:35,440
Speaker 3: few blocks in where the library is in South Pasadena.

812
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:37,880
Speaker 3: It's across the street there and that was original recently

813
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 3: for sale. Oh I went to look at it and

814
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:46,880
Speaker 3: it's been subdivided into three different use Yeah, it's a shame. Yeah,

815
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 3: why didn't Jamie buy it? Good question.

816
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:51,719
Speaker 2: What is she doing with her money.

817
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:54,359
Speaker 3: In buying her houses? And then there's the place where

818
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:56,799
Speaker 3: the hedges you know from that movie where he peaks around.

819
00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:58,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, the hedge is still there.

820
00:36:58,280 --> 00:36:59,799
Speaker 3: The hedge is still there. And not only that, but

821
00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:01,799
Speaker 3: the house on the other side of the hedges from

822
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 3: Mama's family. Okay, let's Mama's family is what we should

823
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:05,959
Speaker 3: be talking.

824
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, wow, those hedges. How long does a hedge live?

825
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:10,760
Speaker 2: Is it the original hedge?

826
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:11,920
Speaker 3: That's a good question.

827
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:15,320
Speaker 2: Probably that'd be a forty five year old hedge.

828
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:16,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, at least I know.

829
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 2: Oh I need to see that hedge. I'd like to

830
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:19,879
Speaker 2: stick my hand through it or something.

831
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 3: You can walk, I mean, you can go up to

832
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 3: it as much as you like. Is it on someone's property, Yeah,

833
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 3: but it's right there by the sidewalk, you know.

834
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:28,839
Speaker 2: Oh okay, so you could grab the homeowner.

835
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:32,799
Speaker 3: You could. It might be Mama and then pee wee

836
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 3: Herman's house from the movies right around the corner. Too.

837
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 2: Incredible. Yeah, and it looks just like it did in

838
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 2: the movie.

839
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 3: Yeah. I think it's white or yellow? Now? Oh white?

840
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 3: What color is in the movie? Wasn't it red?

841
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:46,280
Speaker 2: See again, we're going back to what colors I can remember.

842
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:48,279
Speaker 3: Maybe it's red. Now, see I've got it all wrong.

843
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:50,879
Speaker 3: I do know. There's like a three inch space under

844
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 3: the walls that you can if you want.

845
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 2: You're not allowed to speak after eight pm in that house. Okay,

846
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 2: well I have my car words here? Do you have

847
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:02,799
Speaker 2: anything left to say about thinking? Do you send thank

848
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:03,320
Speaker 2: you cards?

849
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 3: Occasionally? I do not, as a rule.

850
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:08,759
Speaker 2: What sort of thing has to happen in order for

851
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:09,919
Speaker 2: you to send a thank you card?

852
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:13,480
Speaker 3: I think it has to have been a gift that

853
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:16,399
Speaker 3: I received that I wasn't able to say thank you for, oh,

854
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 3: for some reason, right, or something special. So I will

855
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:23,120
Speaker 3: at times, but I don't. I'm not one of those,

856
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 3: you know, obsessive thank you card right.

857
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 2: Some people are very good at it, Yeah, very on

858
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 2: top of it. They do it right away.

859
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 3: I know.

860
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 2: I never do it at all. Yeah, classless.

861
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:37,359
Speaker 3: It adds an air of mystique, that's true. They won't.

862
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 2: You just leave them wondering if you cared about the gift.

863
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:41,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, what did I get wrong? And then I'm gonna

864
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:42,839
Speaker 3: try harder next year.

865
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 2: It's better and better every year. Yeah, until the person's

866
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 2: life has been absolutely demolished.

867
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 3: Well, you've made a career off getting gifts, so if

868
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 3: you were to start now.

869
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:53,440
Speaker 2: It would be a career as a generous Well, you're

870
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:55,600
Speaker 2: gonna have to know, I know, of course I'm gonna

871
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:57,440
Speaker 2: have I mean, I will give these away to guests

872
00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 2: after guests. The I think the third gift I got

873
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 2: on this was Lauren Lapus brought some thank you cards.

874
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 2: Oh and I don't know my apologies to Lauren Lapiz.

875
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 2: I'm not quite sure what happened to this, but it

876
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 2: was an early pandemic, so I wasn't responsible for anything.

877
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:14,880
Speaker 3: I was going to ask if you had a chest

878
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:17,400
Speaker 3: or a trunk of every gift. I have a garage

879
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 3: a garage, but they're not all in one place or anything.

880
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:22,680
Speaker 2: No, I uh, there are a bunch here in the

881
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:26,360
Speaker 2: studio now, Thank god. Kind of the most camera ready gifts?

882
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 3: Who gave you the Redneck Plunger? Rob Hubell?

883
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:33,720
Speaker 2: Oh nice, Yeah, that was a great one. I think

884
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:36,000
Speaker 2: I wonder if I would be able to remember I've

885
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 2: received probably I mean hundreds of gifts at this point.

886
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 2: It'd be an interesting challenge for my memory and my

887
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:45,319
Speaker 2: gratitude to see if I knew which each gift who

888
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 2: gave each gift.

889
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 3: It would be cool to stack them all in a

890
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:50,440
Speaker 3: room and have you go through and see if you

891
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 3: could get them right. Oh my god, that would be harrid.

892
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 3: I mean you have to match them with names, so

893
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 3: you get to see all the names right. Reminded, I think,

894
00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:59,400
Speaker 3: I probably it's a price is right game.

895
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:02,879
Speaker 2: And what I win just the knowledge that my brain

896
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:06,320
Speaker 2: is still functioning in vacuum. If I get a vacuum,

897
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:10,479
Speaker 2: I will do anything, draw on a vacuum. I've gotten

898
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:13,320
Speaker 2: a vacuum on this podcast. My boyfriend gave me the vacuum,

899
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:14,759
Speaker 2: and I told him not to spend too much money

900
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 2: on it. He came on the podcast and gave me

901
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:19,280
Speaker 2: a vacum. What kind of vacuum it might be? Abissle

902
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 2: Really yeah, it works pretty well.

903
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:22,120
Speaker 3: I don't know.

904
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:25,080
Speaker 2: I mean our other vacuum was working just fine. That

905
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:28,760
Speaker 2: was the big problem. You complained and complained and complained

906
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:30,880
Speaker 2: about the vacuum. It was working totally fine, So it

907
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 2: was upsetting to get a new vacuum.

908
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:34,759
Speaker 3: I see. But he wanted it, but he disguised it

909
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 3: as a gift, right to stealth gift.

910
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:40,800
Speaker 2: Kind of a classic sitcom Trope. Here's the bowling Pall, honey,

911
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:45,239
Speaker 2: that kind of thing. Well, I think we should play

912
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 2: a game. Okay, We're going to play a game called

913
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:49,880
Speaker 2: Gift Master. But I need a number between one and

914
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:50,600
Speaker 2: ten from you.

915
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:51,879
Speaker 3: Four. Okay.

916
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:53,799
Speaker 2: I have to do some light calculating to get our

917
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:56,719
Speaker 2: game pieces. So right now, you can promote, recommend, do

918
00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:57,439
Speaker 2: whatever you want.

919
00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:00,799
Speaker 3: I'll be right back. Oh golly, well, I'm having a

920
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:04,279
Speaker 3: child in January thirty first, so come on and check

921
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 3: that out. We'll probably be at a hospital near you.

922
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:11,640
Speaker 3: What else can I tell you? I have a couple

923
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 3: of podcasts, I guess with Gorley and Rust and Bananas

924
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 3: for Bonanza, and you can check those out. And there's the

925
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 3: Conan O'Brien podcast.

926
00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 4: There's everyone.

927
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:35,840
Speaker 2: Go leave a one star review for everything you just heard.

928
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:39,400
Speaker 3: Please do, but only if you go to that hotel

929
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:41,359
Speaker 3: and give it to them as well.

930
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:46,359
Speaker 2: No, go listen to Matt's wonderful. Let's support Matt. Also,

931
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:48,760
Speaker 2: I've never I haven't mentioned in years that people should

932
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:51,240
Speaker 2: be leaving reviews for this podcast. Do those matter anymore?

933
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:54,759
Speaker 3: I they might bump you up in the algorithm, but

934
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 3: I don't know. Do people even I think a lot

935
00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 3: of people spread their listening among different podcast apps. Now,

936
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 3: so you used to all be Apple based, and I

937
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 3: don't know.

938
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:05,920
Speaker 2: Does anyone care about anything anymore?

939
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:07,920
Speaker 3: Is the big question. I don't go leave a.

940
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 2: Review stopping selfish, leave a gorgeous review of this podcast,

941
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:14,920
Speaker 2: and then a bunch of one starts for Matt again. Okay,

942
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:17,360
Speaker 2: this is how we play gift Masters. I'm going to

943
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:20,359
Speaker 2: name three celebrities, three famous people, and then I'm going

944
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:22,920
Speaker 2: to name three gifts things you can give away. You're

945
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 2: going to tell me which gift you would give which

946
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:26,080
Speaker 2: person and why I love it.

947
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 3: Does that make perfect sense? Ye? All right.

948
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:30,719
Speaker 2: The celebrities today are number one Alec Baldwin, number two

949
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 2: Jamie Lynn Spears, and number three Margaret Atwood. The gift

950
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:38,319
Speaker 2: you will be giving are a bullet bike, rock hard

951
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:42,800
Speaker 2: abs and omnipotence. That's more of an experience.

952
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:45,920
Speaker 3: I have some questions. What's a bullet bike? A bullet

953
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:48,760
Speaker 3: bike that's what Jamie Lynn Spears.

954
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:51,560
Speaker 2: It's on the I'm trying to Jamie Lynn Spears is

955
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 2: a very fast motorcycle, and a bullet bike is Britney

956
00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 2: Spears younger sister.

957
00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:01,440
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, bullet bike, omnipotence. What do we call that?

958
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 3: I call that a bullet bike?

959
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:06,960
Speaker 2: The you know, the very the small stylish looking motorcycles

960
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 2: that aren't a dirt bike or Harley. What is that called?

961
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:13,480
Speaker 3: Oh, we used to call they had a brand name.

962
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:14,960
Speaker 3: They're called Ninja's when I was.

963
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:16,399
Speaker 2: Young, Ninjas.

964
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 3: But like a street bike, kind of like a street

965
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:20,799
Speaker 3: racing bike. A bullet bike maybe that? Okay, so a

966
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 3: bullet bike. Omnipotence and rock Hard Abs and Jamie Lynn Spears,

967
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:29,280
Speaker 3: Margaret Atwood and Alec Baldwin, who I saw at Disneyland

968
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:31,839
Speaker 3: a couple of weeks ago. You're kidding with the whole crew?

969
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:34,239
Speaker 3: The whole crew. Are they still doing the reality show?

970
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:37,040
Speaker 3: I don't know. They've been followed by a camera crew. No,

971
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 3: they were there, but I think because his wife was

972
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:41,400
Speaker 3: on Dancing with the Stars and they all contractually have

973
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:43,640
Speaker 3: to do some like b roll at Disney.

974
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:46,360
Speaker 2: Oh. I'm sure he was having the time of his life.

975
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:48,759
Speaker 3: Seemed like he was okay with it. He has like

976
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 3: forty kids. Yeah, it's crazy, and they were all there. Yeah,

977
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:56,400
Speaker 3: have you seen the reality show? We watched the first episode.

978
00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:57,920
Speaker 3: I got enough.

979
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:00,120
Speaker 2: It's a fascinating experience.

980
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:04,440
Speaker 3: On many levels. On many levels, it's very How did

981
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:06,759
Speaker 3: she do in Dancing with the Stars. I don't know.

982
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 2: I feel like she's probably not that great of a dancer.

983
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 3: Doesn't seem like it. I don't think she was well liked.

984
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:14,960
Speaker 3: I don't think people were. You know, you can get

985
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 3: voted above your dancing talent.

986
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:23,319
Speaker 2: Just sany really took it away for quite a while. Yeah,

987
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:26,760
Speaker 2: but I feel like she's not a well loved doesn't

988
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:31,400
Speaker 2: seem what's your name, Hilario Baldwin re? Yeah, yeah, and

989
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 2: you can go in between accents. Oh yes, so you

990
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:37,719
Speaker 2: saw him Disneylan. Did you see what ride they were

991
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 2: going on?

992
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 3: No, they were They were outside the like fantasyland place

993
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 3: where you can get pancakes.

994
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 2: That's a good thing when you have forty children.

995
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 3: Were just like corawling up all of them and I

996
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:54,480
Speaker 3: think they had to do that every fifteen minutes to

997
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:56,319
Speaker 3: make sure they didn't lose someone. And you know how

998
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:58,680
Speaker 3: you can go to Disneyland with those plaid vested guides.

999
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 3: Oh yes, yes, seem like we had three. That's a minimum.

1000
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:03,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, that size of family.

1001
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:08,240
Speaker 3: Okay, bullet bike, omnipotence and rock hard abs from Margaret Atwood,

1002
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:14,800
Speaker 3: Jamie Lynn Spears, and Alec Baldwin, mister Hilario, Margaret Atwood

1003
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:18,440
Speaker 3: the author. Yeah, but what does she write?

1004
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:20,960
Speaker 2: She wrote most famously the handmade Stexts.

1005
00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:24,000
Speaker 3: Right, Okay, I'm going to give her omnipotence. Okay, Okay? Why?

1006
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:26,400
Speaker 3: I just feel like if she has that kind of

1007
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:28,719
Speaker 3: perception for that book, being as old as it is

1008
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:31,560
Speaker 3: and as prescient as it's become. Sure even at the

1009
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:34,319
Speaker 3: time I could see how she had written.

1010
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:36,520
Speaker 2: It, she should be able to control whatever she wants.

1011
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 3: I trust her with the keys more than Alec and Jamie.

1012
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:42,600
Speaker 2: Okay, I would lean Jamie. Would You don't see what

1013
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:45,920
Speaker 2: Jamie has to do with unlimited power. She's got the brain,

1014
00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 2: she's got.

1015
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:51,359
Speaker 3: What is she done with limited power? Because they say,

1016
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:53,279
Speaker 3: you know, having some limits is a good thing. But

1017
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 3: she's going to go full Kiligula or something. Okay, I'm

1018
00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:01,240
Speaker 3: comfortable with that, Okay. And and Keys to the World,

1019
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:04,319
Speaker 3: Keys to the Bike? How old is Jamie Lynn Spears? Now?

1020
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:06,440
Speaker 3: Is she fit? Does she already have rock hard abs?

1021
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 3: I don't want to give her a gift she doesn't need.

1022
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:11,319
Speaker 2: Right, you don't want to double up on rock hard abs, but.

1023
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:13,719
Speaker 3: I'm hesitant to give Alex rock card abs.

1024
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 2: That's almost like ultimate ultimate power for him, I know.

1025
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:18,640
Speaker 3: And if she does have rock hard abs, is he

1026
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:19,799
Speaker 3: still is stack right?

1027
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:22,000
Speaker 2: That's your looking person?

1028
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:25,440
Speaker 3: Yeah? Interesting, but I'd love to see him on a

1029
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:26,040
Speaker 3: bullet bike.

1030
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:28,480
Speaker 2: Yeahs A balance.

1031
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:31,319
Speaker 3: Is yeah, Google, Jamie lin Spears, Let's see what she

1032
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:32,080
Speaker 3: looks like right now?

1033
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:34,840
Speaker 2: Okay, this is that's a out Jamie Lin Spears, twenty

1034
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 2: twenty five. Let's see Google, Google shut down. Your whole

1035
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:43,880
Speaker 2: search engine is so bad. The images that we're getting

1036
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:46,360
Speaker 2: are too small. The resolution should be bigger.

1037
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:47,400
Speaker 3: Look at this.

1038
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 2: How blurry that photo is. That's this year, that's this year. Okay,

1039
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:56,040
Speaker 2: So she looks like she probably doesn't need rock hard abs.

1040
00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:59,440
Speaker 3: Okay, then I have no choice. I guess like my

1041
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 3: hand is worst. I don't even know if she wants

1042
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:04,200
Speaker 3: a bullet bike, but Jamie Spears is getting a bullet bike.

1043
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:06,319
Speaker 2: I can see her zipping around town on one of

1044
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:08,080
Speaker 2: those Tokyo.

1045
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:09,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, the pictures you showed me, she's in kind of

1046
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:13,240
Speaker 3: like a Catholic schoolgirl thing, which is very Japanese school uniform.

1047
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:16,680
Speaker 2: I can see her kind of pulling that all together

1048
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:20,600
Speaker 2: and making that her new thing, her comeback, her comeback

1049
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:22,560
Speaker 2: as someone who drives around Tokyo.

1050
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:27,440
Speaker 3: In a bullet bottom and on one and then, Yes,

1051
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:30,359
Speaker 3: Alec Baldwin gets rock hard abs, but no other part

1052
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:31,920
Speaker 3: of his body is allowed to improve.

1053
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 2: Every other part of his body has to get much

1054
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:35,520
Speaker 2: much worse.

1055
00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:37,040
Speaker 3: Yes, so.

1056
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 2: Fascinating that that gets another reality show, I would tell

1057
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:44,680
Speaker 2: And if he.

1058
00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:46,680
Speaker 3: Wants to just catch him at the right height through

1059
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:48,920
Speaker 3: a porthole, you would think, like, this is the most

1060
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:49,960
Speaker 3: fit man.

1061
00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:54,920
Speaker 2: A porthole just to look at men's abbs.

1062
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's yeah, it's just like it's like a family

1063
00:47:58,040 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 3: friendly glory hole.

1064
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:03,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. Okay, well you answered this perfectly. Thank you

1065
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 2: very well done. This is the final segment of the podcast.

1066
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:09,239
Speaker 2: It's called I Said No Emails. People write into I

1067
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:12,400
Speaker 2: Said No gifts at gmail dot com desperate for answers.

1068
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:15,600
Speaker 2: People are wondering all sorts of things and begging for help, etc.

1069
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:18,279
Speaker 2: We hope me answer a question. All right, this is

1070
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:23,080
Speaker 2: hello Cold. My stepfather's birthday is approaching. I'll be honest.

1071
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 2: Despite living together for a decade, we still don't know

1072
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 2: a lot about each other. As far as I know,

1073
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:31,840
Speaker 2: he likes two things, Siamese cats and woodworking. I have

1074
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:35,320
Speaker 2: given him figurines of Siamese cats for the past several gifts.

1075
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:37,319
Speaker 2: I think I need to get him something else at

1076
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:39,439
Speaker 2: this point, as his desk is running out of room

1077
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 2: for Siamese cats. What do you get for the man

1078
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:45,160
Speaker 2: who likes nothing? He doesn't like restaurants or movies? Thanks,

1079
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:51,319
Speaker 2: and that's from jmm. They them terrible stepchild. Get him

1080
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 2: a new stepchild.

1081
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:55,239
Speaker 3: Get into him an actual Siamese cat.

1082
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 2: I mean, this is something I'm a huge advocate of,

1083
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:00,720
Speaker 2: is giving people live animal most pets.

1084
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:02,279
Speaker 3: I think that's responsible.

1085
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:06,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a win for the person and the animal.

1086
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:09,600
Speaker 2: We know that everyone will be taken care of in

1087
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:14,200
Speaker 2: that situation. The more the merrier. Yeah, Siamese cats, they're expensive,

1088
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:17,600
Speaker 2: they're classy. H he loves them?

1089
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:18,399
Speaker 3: Does he?

1090
00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:20,480
Speaker 2: Does he own any or is he just obsessed with

1091
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:21,839
Speaker 2: the concept or is.

1092
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:24,160
Speaker 3: This one of those runaway things where someone thinks you

1093
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:27,560
Speaker 3: like something so they keep getting all you mentioned it once,

1094
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:31,359
Speaker 3: you know? And now the stepchild sees all these like

1095
00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:35,160
Speaker 3: Siamese cat bricker brac everywhere, but doesn't stop to think

1096
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Speaker 3: that they gave them.

1097
00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:41,319
Speaker 2: All right, right, and meanwhile, like the rift between them

1098
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:44,680
Speaker 2: is growing. They don't think that this person enjoys anything.

1099
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:48,359
Speaker 2: He doesn't think that they know anything about him, And

1100
00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 2: the pile of cat garbage is just growing and growing

1101
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:52,600
Speaker 2: and growing.

1102
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:54,960
Speaker 3: I think you got to take Siamese cats off the table.

1103
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:57,799
Speaker 3: You have a clue here. With woodworking. I enjoy woodworking.

1104
00:49:57,880 --> 00:50:01,440
Speaker 3: I know you can get it's their somewhat pricey, but

1105
00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:05,120
Speaker 3: there's a brand called Woodpeckers that makes these really good

1106
00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:09,000
Speaker 3: precision measuring instruments like mini squares and stuff like that.

1107
00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:12,160
Speaker 3: And I think if your stepfather likes and enjoys woodworking,

1108
00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 3: having one of these quality things would really make the difference.

1109
00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:16,799
Speaker 3: I love them. What are you making with your woodworking?

1110
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:22,360
Speaker 3: Just home renovations and shelves and lanterns and shits.

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00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:31,640
Speaker 2: Lanterns. Yeah, I mean it's some lanterns. I've made seven lanterns,

1112
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:35,360
Speaker 2: like maybe eight. I don't know what inspired the lantern idea,

1113
00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:37,840
Speaker 2: just having a backyard that needed lanterns.

1114
00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:40,960
Speaker 3: It's like I took a look and said this, some

1115
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:44,120
Speaker 3: lanterns could spruce this place up. Is this all self taught?

1116
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:45,160
Speaker 2: Well?

1117
00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:47,040
Speaker 3: I was a scenic design manager, so I learned some

1118
00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:49,920
Speaker 3: basic carpenter skills. Then, but then I've had to kind

1119
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:50,839
Speaker 3: of YouTube a lot.

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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, okay, have you had any failed projects?

1121
00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:58,520
Speaker 3: Oh? Sure? Like what well, just recently, I've been building

1122
00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:02,480
Speaker 3: out a back house studio office, and so I decided

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00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:06,120
Speaker 3: to build a standing desk within a built in like

1124
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:10,360
Speaker 3: kind of grander desk. Oh and then I did that,

1125
00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:13,080
Speaker 3: and then the standing desk mechanism broke and I had

1126
00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:16,560
Speaker 3: already built it in, so I had to destroy it. Oh,

1127
00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:18,520
Speaker 3: and then remake it so I could take it apart.

1128
00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:21,080
Speaker 3: If this happens again, I had a waste of time.

1129
00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:21,480
Speaker 2: It was.

1130
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:23,720
Speaker 3: It was one of the hardest days of my life.

1131
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:25,279
Speaker 2: Did it damage the original desk?

1132
00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:27,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, I had to destroy the whole desk. Not the

1133
00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:30,000
Speaker 3: whole desk, I had to destroy the two inner sides

1134
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:32,800
Speaker 3: of it. Oh my god. I did just crowbar it apart.

1135
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:34,600
Speaker 3: It was like killing a child.

1136
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:36,440
Speaker 4: It was hard.

1137
00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:41,800
Speaker 3: How did it break? The mechanism just was trying to recalibrate.

1138
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:43,840
Speaker 3: But because I had built this was my mistake. I

1139
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:47,360
Speaker 3: built it into a desk. It was rubbing up on

1140
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:51,480
Speaker 3: parts that it should be. Oh, and it broke itself

1141
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:52,359
Speaker 3: or I did it?

1142
00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:56,160
Speaker 2: Just bad workmanship on my part, the poor carpenter who

1143
00:51:56,160 --> 00:51:57,000
Speaker 2: blames his desk.

1144
00:51:57,880 --> 00:52:00,600
Speaker 3: I'm taking the blame. I am. I got to it eventually.

1145
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:02,319
Speaker 3: I didn't want to admit it at first. And are

1146
00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:06,600
Speaker 3: you staining all of it? And all this staining finishing masonry.

1147
00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:09,120
Speaker 2: My dog recently not off a part of my armchair,

1148
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:11,480
Speaker 2: the wood leg, and I don't know what to well,

1149
00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:12,719
Speaker 2: just part of it. I don't know. Should I just

1150
00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 2: put some stain on there and hope people don't notice?

1151
00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:16,280
Speaker 2: Or is it sand it down.

1152
00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:18,920
Speaker 3: Three dimensionally pulled apart or just on the like surface.

1153
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:21,960
Speaker 2: You know, it's like a little you know leg, it's

1154
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:22,759
Speaker 2: like round.

1155
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:25,040
Speaker 3: And curvy, like a mid century kind of.

1156
00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:29,719
Speaker 2: Or almost like a Victorian or something like Gabriel Lake,

1157
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:32,840
Speaker 2: you know, like I would say, like French Ish, I

1158
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:34,440
Speaker 2: don't know exactly.

1159
00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:35,879
Speaker 3: How like a claw foot kind of thing.

1160
00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:39,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, like a little clawfoot Gabriel leg. Okay, yeah, whatever

1161
00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:40,080
Speaker 2: that is.

1162
00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:40,759
Speaker 3: That's what it is.

1163
00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:42,880
Speaker 2: That's what this and she not off essentially the knee

1164
00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:45,920
Speaker 2: of it. So now it's like kind of like do

1165
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:48,640
Speaker 2: I sand that down and then stain it? I don't

1166
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:50,800
Speaker 2: want to take it to somebody. That seems like a

1167
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:52,480
Speaker 2: lot to put an armchair in the car to get

1168
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:53,720
Speaker 2: this one little thing figs.

1169
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:57,520
Speaker 3: You can sand it and then you'll probably fill it

1170
00:52:57,560 --> 00:53:00,160
Speaker 3: a little bit with some filler filler if they're there's

1171
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:03,520
Speaker 3: little divots in it. It's flat, it's flat in flat shape.

1172
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:05,160
Speaker 3: You know what you get. Restore a finish.

1173
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:07,040
Speaker 2: Restore a finish, and it's.

1174
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:08,640
Speaker 3: Something you can just rub on and you can buy

1175
00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:10,799
Speaker 3: it in the kind of color of the finish of

1176
00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:13,040
Speaker 3: the whole and try that at least and see if

1177
00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:15,040
Speaker 3: that helps you. But usually that if it's just like

1178
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:19,520
Speaker 3: superficial Mars and din'ts like you can.

1179
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:20,880
Speaker 2: And sand it a little bit first.

1180
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:22,640
Speaker 3: Don't sand it first. You just put this in and

1181
00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:24,920
Speaker 3: it'll usually darken it up and kind of then you've

1182
00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:27,080
Speaker 3: kind of buffet a little bit. Restore a finish. Yeah,

1183
00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:29,800
Speaker 3: and there's no E on the restore. It's like restore

1184
00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:31,520
Speaker 3: hyphen a hyphen.

1185
00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:34,080
Speaker 2: Oh interesting, restore a finish.

1186
00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:37,080
Speaker 3: And if there isn't be really careful something that's another brand.

1187
00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:39,839
Speaker 3: I do not condon't. God knows what will happen. Yeah,

1188
00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:40,520
Speaker 3: I don't endorse.

1189
00:53:41,120 --> 00:53:44,360
Speaker 2: But we're saying, uh jmm, get some sort of woodworking

1190
00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:49,360
Speaker 2: woodpecker tool. No more Siamese cats unless they're the real thing. Yeah,

1191
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:51,520
Speaker 2: and the best breeder you can find go to the

1192
00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:52,200
Speaker 2: cat mill.

1193
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:53,000
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1194
00:53:53,120 --> 00:53:58,080
Speaker 2: This podcast is very pro animal mill, puppy and cat shop.

1195
00:53:58,160 --> 00:54:02,319
Speaker 2: Don't adopt. I had some listeners attack me about my

1196
00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:04,399
Speaker 2: dog that we recently got. They thought that I had

1197
00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:06,800
Speaker 2: bought her. What have I done on this podcast that

1198
00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:09,319
Speaker 2: makes people think I'm going to able to buy a dog?

1199
00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:12,920
Speaker 3: You just said, and if you've said anything like that before,

1200
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:16,160
Speaker 3: I would imagine that's why they thought that I adopted her.

1201
00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:19,480
Speaker 3: Of course I rescued the dog. Okay, well what kind

1202
00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:20,719
Speaker 3: of dog? And what's the dog's name.

1203
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:24,200
Speaker 2: She's a Rottweiler named Bonnie. Wow, she's ten months old

1204
00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:28,239
Speaker 2: and she's in heat. Really, she's becoming a woman. I've

1205
00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:31,480
Speaker 2: never dealt with something like this. To get her, she

1206
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:33,759
Speaker 2: has to get spade. But they say you should go

1207
00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:35,400
Speaker 2: through at least one heat with a puppy.

1208
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:38,440
Speaker 3: That makes sense because it prevents.

1209
00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:41,040
Speaker 2: Let's urn their issues. Yeah, maybe you avoid some cancer

1210
00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:41,480
Speaker 2: or something.

1211
00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:44,720
Speaker 3: So future Bonnie, how did you happen on the name Bonnie?

1212
00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:47,120
Speaker 3: I wanted to name her Ronnie, after Ronnie Spector. I

1213
00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:50,040
Speaker 3: love Ronnie Spoter, but my boyfriend her last dog was

1214
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:53,560
Speaker 3: named Edie, and she was frequently being called Eddie, being

1215
00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:56,440
Speaker 3: misgendered Edie, and I know where that goes.

1216
00:54:56,520 --> 00:54:59,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, so Jim said let's give her a nice, clear Bonnie.

1217
00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:01,959
Speaker 2: And so that was close enough.

1218
00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:04,520
Speaker 3: Oh I see, Okay, Yeah.

1219
00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:06,480
Speaker 2: I'm sorry with pet gender. I'm like, it's not very

1220
00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:07,319
Speaker 2: high stakes for me.

1221
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:09,960
Speaker 3: No, I mean we named her daughter Glenn. I mean

1222
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:11,520
Speaker 3: it's clearly.

1223
00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:16,120
Speaker 2: Not for me either, when people really get sensitive about

1224
00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:18,879
Speaker 2: a pet's gender. I don't own the dog. I don't

1225
00:55:18,920 --> 00:55:22,520
Speaker 2: own the cat. I'm just assuming. Yeah, don't get after

1226
00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:25,759
Speaker 2: me that if I say he or she. It's just

1227
00:55:25,840 --> 00:55:28,439
Speaker 2: let me know in a nice, non aggressive way.

1228
00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:30,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree with you. It's a dog. It's a dog.

1229
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:32,960
Speaker 2: And we love the dog. Yeah, we love Bonnie.

1230
00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:34,479
Speaker 3: Wait, you have a cat?

1231
00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:35,920
Speaker 2: A cat, not a Siamese.

1232
00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:41,400
Speaker 3: No, she's part main coon. Oh, high maintenance.

1233
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:45,000
Speaker 2: A lot of fur, a lot of fur shedding it.

1234
00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:48,200
Speaker 3: No, she pulls a lot off, but it doesn't like

1235
00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:51,040
Speaker 3: she doesn't leave a wake of fur. Okay, And I'm

1236
00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:53,960
Speaker 3: I think fairly allergic, but not to her because she's

1237
00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:56,920
Speaker 3: one of those kind of long hair oh aologenic and

1238
00:55:56,960 --> 00:55:59,920
Speaker 3: she's like a kind of like a plus sized mob.

1239
00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:02,799
Speaker 3: I love this cat. She knows it. He's beautiful and

1240
00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:06,399
Speaker 3: she knows it. She'll let you know it. I love

1241
00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:09,360
Speaker 3: her though. She's kind of the person in all of

1242
00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:12,240
Speaker 3: our family that will acknowledge me first in the morning.

1243
00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:13,200
Speaker 2: What's her name?

1244
00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:15,120
Speaker 3: Margo? Margo? I love that.

1245
00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:15,439
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1246
00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:16,560
Speaker 2: And how old is she?

1247
00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:20,000
Speaker 3: She's I'm fourteen. Oh wow, yeah, but even another decade

1248
00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:22,160
Speaker 3: with that cat, I hope. So. I love ke. Yeah,

1249
00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:23,560
Speaker 3: she's one of my best friends.

1250
00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:25,920
Speaker 2: I just learned that when at least a dog goes

1251
00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:28,799
Speaker 2: in heat, they do something called blowing their coat, which

1252
00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:31,920
Speaker 2: is suddenly all of their fur is just all over the.

1253
00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:33,560
Speaker 3: House, and that's a heat thing. Yeah.

1254
00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:36,480
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, is she like, is she malnourished?

1255
00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:40,000
Speaker 2: What's happening? She might be we're't you know, maybe we're

1256
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:42,799
Speaker 2: bad pet owners, but I think she's healthy. And when

1257
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:45,000
Speaker 2: they're in heat, they just suddenly start losing tons and

1258
00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:46,919
Speaker 2: tons the amount of hair that a dog is able

1259
00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:49,640
Speaker 2: to produce. Yeah, that they leave enough around the house

1260
00:56:49,719 --> 00:56:52,080
Speaker 2: to like fill a garbage can and still have fur

1261
00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:56,719
Speaker 2: on their body. It's yeah, I don't know, nature, jamm

1262
00:56:56,920 --> 00:56:58,719
Speaker 2: If you've gotten some sort of answer, and I know

1263
00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:02,319
Speaker 2: you have that it's time to repair your relationship with

1264
00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:05,120
Speaker 2: the stepfather. Ten years is too long to hate each other.

1265
00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:10,000
Speaker 2: It's time to live in some sort of civil household

1266
00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:11,479
Speaker 2: with all of the Siamese cats.

1267
00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:12,040
Speaker 3: You by him.

1268
00:57:12,760 --> 00:57:15,919
Speaker 2: We answered the question perfectly. I have all of these

1269
00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:19,600
Speaker 2: thank you cards. This is perfect. Every guest from the

1270
00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:20,640
Speaker 2: next eight people.

1271
00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:23,240
Speaker 3: I know.

1272
00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:25,720
Speaker 2: That's when you say, should I give them an order

1273
00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:29,120
Speaker 2: as just sequentially or should I give them what I care? Yeah,

1274
00:57:29,120 --> 00:57:30,720
Speaker 2: that's what I could create some drama.

1275
00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:34,400
Speaker 3: This comes with no, you know, no expectations, So use

1276
00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:35,160
Speaker 3: them how you will.

1277
00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:37,800
Speaker 2: This podcast could use some drama in the headlines. You know,

1278
00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:39,800
Speaker 2: somebody's mad they didn't get a thank you card. They

1279
00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:40,720
Speaker 2: will never come back.

1280
00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:43,400
Speaker 3: Well, now they know that they could get one exactly.

1281
00:57:43,640 --> 00:57:45,439
Speaker 3: Oh man, I really put you in a bond. Yes,

1282
00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:48,280
Speaker 3: I mean starting with me, starting with I know. Oh

1283
00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:50,160
Speaker 3: my god, I know, what do you do there? Oh

1284
00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:53,880
Speaker 3: my god, I feel like I've got to give you one. No,

1285
00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:56,440
Speaker 3: no expectations. I told you this was very tacky. I've

1286
00:57:56,440 --> 00:57:58,560
Speaker 3: ever seen them. I've already seen them.

1287
00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:01,439
Speaker 2: Well, I'll think about it, Okay, think about it. Thank

1288
00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:03,800
Speaker 2: you for these. I've had such a nice time with

1289
00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:04,360
Speaker 2: you here today.

1290
00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:07,320
Speaker 3: Thanks for having me listener. The podcast is over.

1291
00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:10,720
Speaker 2: I'm letting you go. I've decided to release you for

1292
00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:14,040
Speaker 2: the day and go do something else, find something nice

1293
00:58:14,040 --> 00:58:21,560
Speaker 2: to do. I love you, goodbye, I said, No Gifts

1294
00:58:21,640 --> 00:58:25,400
Speaker 2: is an exactly right production. Our senior producer is on

1295
00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:29,440
Speaker 2: Alise Nelson, and our episodes are beautifully mixed by Ben Tolliday.

1296
00:58:30,080 --> 00:58:33,520
Speaker 2: The theme song is by miracle Worker Amy Mann, and

1297
00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:36,480
Speaker 2: we couldn't do it without our booker, Patrick Cottner. You

1298
00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:39,880
Speaker 2: must follow the show on Instagram, and I said, No Gifts.

1299
00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:41,680
Speaker 2: That's where you're going to see pictures of all these

1300
00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:44,439
Speaker 2: wonderful gifts I'm getting. And don't you want to see

1301
00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:45,040
Speaker 2: the gifts?

1302
00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:47,680
Speaker 1: And why did you hear?

1303
00:58:50,200 --> 00:58:50,520
Speaker 3: Fun?

1304
00:58:50,520 --> 00:58:50,880
Speaker 2: A man?

1305
00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:58,880
Speaker 1: Myself perfectly clear? But you're a guess, Tom, you gotta

1306
00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:04,840
Speaker 1: come to me empty And I said, no, guest, your

1307
00:59:04,880 --> 00:59:11,520
Speaker 1: own presence is presents enough. I already had too much stuff,

1308
00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:15,360
Speaker 1: So how do you dare to surbey me?