1 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:09,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to Before Breakfast, a production of iHeartRadio. Good Morning, 2 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 1: This is Laura, Welcome to the Before Breakfast podcast. Today's 3 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:17,959 Speaker 1: episode is going to be a longer one part of 4 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:21,160 Speaker 1: the series where I interview fascinating people about how they 5 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 1: take their days from great to awesome and any advice 6 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 1: they have for the rest of us. So today I 7 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 1: am delighted to welcome Lisa Canning to Before Breakfast. Lisa 8 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 1: is known online as the Possibility Mom. She helps business 9 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 1: owners structure their lives to succeed. 10 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:38,480 Speaker 2: She has also had. 11 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 1: A varied career in many areas, including design, which I 12 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:43,240 Speaker 1: know she will tell us all about. 13 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 2: So, Lisa, welcome to the show. 14 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:46,920 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, it's a pleasure to be here. 15 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:49,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, thanks for joining us. So why don't you tell 16 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 1: our listeners a little bit about yourself. 17 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 3: I have a winding road. I started out in interior 18 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 3: design with the wonderful opportunity to host an HGTV show. 19 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 3: Like literally, that is my introduction to both a television 20 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 3: place career. Yeah, not a terrible place to start. It 21 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 3: happened completely by accident, like to be very very frank, 22 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:12,559 Speaker 3: but it was exciting, it was exhilarating. It turned into 23 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:16,480 Speaker 3: a long career in lifestyle TV. I've worked with many, 24 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 3: many well known names. And then I had children at 25 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 3: the exact same rapid time that my interior design and 26 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 3: television career was growing. I now have very proud mom 27 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 3: of eleven children. 28 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:29,040 Speaker 2: They're all. 29 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:31,119 Speaker 3: There's no multiples. These are all the questions I get asked, 30 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:32,679 Speaker 3: Are there multiples? Are they all yours? 31 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:35,959 Speaker 2: They're all. They're all mine, and one. 32 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 3: At a time, one at a time. But as you 33 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:42,320 Speaker 3: can imagine, the pursuit of a very hands on, very 34 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 3: busy interior design career and television career became very quickly 35 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 3: unsustainable with how rapid my family was growing. So I 36 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 3: made a very intentional pivot. So I guess you could 37 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 3: say where I started making some really significant changes in 38 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 3: terms of how I used my time, how I structured 39 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 3: my business, the things that I said yes to you, 40 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 3: the things that I said no to People started to 41 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:08,920 Speaker 3: notice and started to ask me questions about that, And 42 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 3: that's where life and business coaching began. So that chapter 43 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 3: of my life, I primarily coach Catholic moms. I'm a 44 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 3: Catholic myself, and I really I think what I've gotten 45 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 3: good at is how to continue moving forward when life 46 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:29,079 Speaker 3: feels epically chaotic, Like if you were to just distill down. 47 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:30,800 Speaker 3: Because I can teach you how to build a business, 48 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:32,800 Speaker 3: I can teach you how to have good thoughts about 49 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 3: you know, yourself, thoughts of self, compassion, positive thoughts about 50 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 3: the world. But if you were to really just kind 51 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 3: of put it all through a said Laura, I really 52 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 3: think it's when things are just so chaotic and seem 53 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 3: like you cannot survive. That's where I developed some strategies. 54 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 1: All right, So is your business primarily spent like coaching 55 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 1: and speaking and things like that, now, exactly, all right, 56 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 1: So that's how you're spending the bulk of your time. 57 00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 2: And I'm very. 58 00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 1: Curious, I mean, because I see some of your your 59 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 1: offerings advertised online and one thing that one headline that 60 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 1: caught my eye was wealth without Guilt. 61 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 2: Let's talk what is this? 62 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:10,119 Speaker 1: This sounds a little bit like it's bringing in your 63 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 1: business owner and Catholic side altogether. 64 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 2: So what is this? 65 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:16,919 Speaker 3: When I started as a life coach, I was coaching 66 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:21,679 Speaker 3: a lot of faith based moms who wanted to build businesses, 67 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:26,360 Speaker 3: but they felt enormous amounts of guilt around it. Both 68 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 3: around Is this what I should be doing with my time? 69 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 3: So just the concept of is this how a good 70 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 3: mother spends her time? And then just around money, should 71 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 3: I pursue wealth? Is it wrong to get a little 72 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 3: bit more money? Is it wrong to desire getting my 73 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 3: nails done or you know, go on a date with 74 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 3: my husband with a little bit more ease? And so 75 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 3: that's where the title wealth without guilt was born. I 76 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 3: just honestly, the many, many conversations with women who didn't 77 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 3: feel free to pursue a business or pursue money. 78 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 1: So what do you tell them? I mean, how do 79 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 1: people get over that sort of guilt? So I'm a Catholic, 80 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 1: I discerned I view everything through there is a will 81 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 1: for your life that is beyond your very narrow focus. 82 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 1: Right when we're stressed, when we're tired, we might just 83 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:19,359 Speaker 1: like tunnel vision into that thing that is providing you know, 84 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 1: a lot a lot of stress. I view the world 85 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 1: with there is a big picture for us. There is 86 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:26,279 Speaker 1: a great purpose for our life. 87 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 3: And so that's what I tell them. I tell them 88 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 3: that you've got some really unique gifts and talents. You 89 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 3: are there's something unrepeatable about you and you're meant to 90 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:38,599 Speaker 3: use those gifts and talents at the service of others. 91 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:41,720 Speaker 3: And so for some people we're serving primarily in the home. 92 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 3: We're all serving in the home. But for a lot 93 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:48,279 Speaker 3: of people, there is a service that is meant to extend, 94 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 3: perhaps beyond the nuclear family into the local community and 95 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 3: even beyond that. And so it's a disservice, like we're 96 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:58,240 Speaker 3: not doing a service to our creator, but as well 97 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 3: as to other people if we're not using those gifts 98 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 3: and talents and pursuing them to the best of our abilities. 99 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 3: But then, of course, in right order, and I think, 100 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:10,360 Speaker 3: going back to my HGTV career, Laura, like that's I 101 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:12,919 Speaker 3: had it in wrong order. I had this idea that 102 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 3: the most important thing you will ever do is make 103 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:20,920 Speaker 3: money and be successful. And I knew that family was important, 104 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 3: like we all know family is important, but I could 105 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:28,920 Speaker 3: not reconcile those things practically. It's like I had both 106 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 3: of those priorities very much like in front of me. 107 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:39,279 Speaker 3: But when you saw my choices, I was always picking work, 108 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 3: always picking the needs of other people in terms of 109 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 3: my professional life and my family and myself. If I'm 110 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:49,279 Speaker 3: being really honest, would constantly go on the back burner. 111 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 3: So that's what I tell the moms that come to me, 112 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 3: Because they're desiring the pursuit of excellence, the pursuit of 113 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 3: more money, the pursuit of building something that might have 114 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 3: even legacy and generational wealth. They're pursuing that, but they want. 115 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 1: That in right order. But I love that you're saying 116 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:07,919 Speaker 1: the two are not actually in conflict. That it is 117 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:14,040 Speaker 1: possible to be a successful business owner and loving involved 118 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 1: parent of in many cases many many children. 119 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 3: But there is a very important requirement. Absolutely, you can 120 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:27,840 Speaker 3: pursue many different things. Should we all pursue many different things? No, 121 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 3: you've got to discern that you've got to, like, you know, 122 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 3: prayerfully look at your life. There might be seasons where 123 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:37,360 Speaker 3: you aren't as active outside the home, and then there 124 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 3: are seasons when children perhaps are more independent, where you 125 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:43,280 Speaker 3: might be able to. But again, big caveat. We're not 126 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 3: all designed the same. But the practical thing that we 127 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:49,360 Speaker 3: have to look at is we have a central nervous system. 128 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 3: I cannot emphasize that enough. Like we are bodies that 129 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 3: get tired, that get taxed, and do need to be refueled. 130 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 3: Part of this might be that I am forty one 131 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 3: years old at the time of this recording. I am 132 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:07,920 Speaker 3: in perimenopause time, so there's all kinds of you know, 133 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 3: hormonal changes. I obviously just had a baby that I'm nursing, 134 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 3: so there's all kinds of things are going on hormonally 135 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 3: that I think are making me very interested in this topic. 136 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 3: But we have to acknowledge that we have a central 137 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 3: nervous system that cannot run on empty, and so that 138 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 3: has to be taken into account in terms of the 139 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 3: things that we put in our calendar. So, yes, all 140 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 3: of these things can be pursued, but they have to 141 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 3: be pursued in this beautiful, holistic lens where you're honoring 142 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 3: the fact that we're humans and we also need rest, 143 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 3: and we also need time to breathe, and so that 144 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 3: has to be looked at and how we make our choices. 145 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 1: Got it all right, Well, we're going to take a 146 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 1: quick ad break and then I will be back with 147 00:07:51,840 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 1: more from Lisa Canning. Well, I am back talking with 148 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 1: Lisa Canning, who has had a varied career working with HGTV. 149 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 1: She now coaches mostly Catholic moms, you're saying, who are 150 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 1: also business owners and with eleven kids, I know that 151 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 1: there is a lot of organizational strategizing going on in 152 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 1: your life. So I'm hoping you can share some of 153 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 1: that wisdom with us right now, because I know when 154 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 1: people hear that, they're like, it must be total chaos. 155 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 1: And I'm guessing that your life is not, in fact 156 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 1: total chaos. So let's talk about some of the systems 157 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 1: that you have going on right now. 158 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 3: I mean, it's often total chaos, just oh, keeping very 159 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:34,320 Speaker 3: very very real. But here are some of the things 160 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 3: that I have actually I think gotten somewhat good at. 161 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 3: And the first concept I'll go kind of mindset and 162 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:43,440 Speaker 3: then very practical as well, so protection of time. So 163 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 3: this is a little bit of a mindset approach. What 164 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:49,679 Speaker 3: I've learned is that if I want something to move forward, 165 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:54,440 Speaker 3: so for example, weight loss, okay, and healthiness just like 166 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 3: healthiness in general, especially with as many children that I've had, 167 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 3: there have got to be certain appointments in my calendar 168 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:03,720 Speaker 3: that move that goal forward. So what does that look 169 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 3: like for me? It's the protection of time to work out, 170 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:10,440 Speaker 3: It's the protection of time to plan and think and 171 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:13,440 Speaker 3: cook healthy meals from my family and to shop for 172 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 3: said meals, right, So there's times in my calendar where 173 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:20,440 Speaker 3: those are protected. I'm fierce about this with motherhood and 174 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:24,960 Speaker 3: marriage as well, between four and six pm unless it 175 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 3: is like absolutely you know, necessary and can't be avoided, 176 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:31,560 Speaker 3: That time is absolutely blocked off in my calendar for 177 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:33,960 Speaker 3: connecting with my children when they get home from school. 178 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 3: Once those things are in the calendar and protected. And again, 179 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 3: so mindset, you fit in all the other things around. 180 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 3: I mean, this is not a novel concept, but I 181 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 3: find that when I let those important things go, I'm 182 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 3: not as peaceful. I feel a lot more guilt, you know, 183 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 3: I can, I'm more reactive. These really essential components that 184 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 3: make me a healthy person but also help me to 185 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 3: show up well for my family are just so so important. Okay, 186 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 3: So that's number one, protecting those key things, and then 187 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 3: number two is then everything else in life that I 188 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:14,960 Speaker 3: truly cannot show up for, right, Like, no one I 189 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 3: can't outsource my marriage, I can't outsource the mothering of 190 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:20,840 Speaker 3: my children. I just cannot write, and I can't no 191 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 3: one else can take care of my health. Like these 192 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 3: are such hard concepts that I don't know. I'm pretty 193 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:27,080 Speaker 3: hard headed, LORDA, I can be very uh you know, 194 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 3: oh no, somebody else can do that. No, no one 195 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 3: else can do that. And then it's just a very 196 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 3: simple concept of what can then be delegated, automated, or 197 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 3: simply deleted in specific seasons. So I do things like 198 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 3: grocery delivery that's like pretty clutch for me, and I'm 199 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:49,720 Speaker 3: using AI kind of creatively anything clerical that can be 200 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 3: sped up through AI. So for example, I'm doing for 201 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 3: the holidays. Okay, as you can imagine, with eleven children, 202 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 3: I have many different like presents and cards and things 203 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 3: that I need to fill out. AI can help you 204 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 3: like organize all that stuff. Even putting names of kids 205 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:12,199 Speaker 3: on little like things you designed on canva. AI can 206 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:14,320 Speaker 3: actually help you so that you're not sitting there doing 207 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 3: all that cute stuff yourself. So delegate, automate, delete all 208 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 3: the other things. Yeah, I love delegate, automate and delete. 209 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:23,200 Speaker 2: But we still have I bet that. I mean, I 210 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 2: want to. 211 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 1: Talk to some about that, like automation of various systems. 212 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 1: I mean, like, do you have same things that you 213 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:32,320 Speaker 1: eat over and over again? Is there like certain laundry 214 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:34,840 Speaker 1: times and systems. Let's let's get into all that. 215 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 3: There's I have almost everything on repeating calendar appointments. 216 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:43,560 Speaker 2: So, for example, this is so niche. 217 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 3: But like my contact lenses, I have too many things 218 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:49,680 Speaker 3: in my brain that I cannot like, I just cannot 219 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:53,200 Speaker 3: hold and so anything that could get slipped, So like 220 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 3: replacing my contacts monthly, I can't you expect me to 221 00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 3: remember what day I'm supposed to change my contact You 222 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 3: think it picked like an easy day, like the first 223 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:02,080 Speaker 3: or something, But no, I don't know. I make my 224 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 3: life so complicated, but I decomplicated, or I'd make it 225 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:09,320 Speaker 3: less complicated by putting these recurring appointments in my calendar. 226 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 3: I would say that I honestly, I keep it very simple. 227 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 3: I have about five rotating meals and they are honestly 228 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:22,440 Speaker 3: designed based on my energy, so meaning none of them 229 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 3: are complicated to cook. But like I'll do some of 230 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 3: the more complicated meals that I enjoyed doing, but need 231 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 3: a little bit more languid time on the weekend when 232 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 3: there's a little bit more time, whereas week nights it 233 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:36,720 Speaker 3: is so simple. I used to do a lot of 234 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:40,320 Speaker 3: crock pot cooking and that would free up my time 235 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:44,960 Speaker 3: and energy. But truly, just anything that you can put 236 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 3: on repeat, Like anything in my life that can be 237 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:52,200 Speaker 3: put on repeat is on repeat. Groceries are basically on repeat, 238 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 3: and even the way I entertain, so we love to 239 00:12:55,800 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 3: have people over. I basically cook the same meal when 240 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 3: I entertain. Laundry is pretty much daily, but again everything 241 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:09,840 Speaker 3: is on It's often habits stacked with something else. So 242 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 3: coming home from school, it's my automatic after I've dropped 243 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 3: off the kids from school, who walk into my laundry 244 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 3: room and run a load like it's become so second 245 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 3: nature at this point, habits stacking many things together. 246 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 1: And I'm sure some of your kids need to contribute 247 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:27,720 Speaker 1: to all this too, right, you have at least the 248 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:30,600 Speaker 1: older ones are able to functions as sort of people. 249 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 1: Things could be delegated too, I would. 250 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 3: Imagine, and I'll just be very honest. All of that 251 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 3: is also very repeatable. So every child has the exact 252 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:43,959 Speaker 3: same chore in the morning and in the evening, and 253 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 3: there's often fights about it, like they're like, why do 254 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 3: I have to do the dishwasher every time? I'm like, listen, 255 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 3: this is just how it's happening. This is how we 256 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 3: are being set up for success in our family. I'll 257 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:59,440 Speaker 3: tolerate like they'll switch chores with each other sometimes whatever 258 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 3: that's negotiated on their own hidline. 259 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 1: So I was gonna say, that's like employees at a restaurant shift, 260 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 1: you know, trading shifts, right, because one can't make it, 261 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 1: it's still they got to deal with it. 262 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:11,320 Speaker 2: I mean, but is it one kid. 263 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:13,320 Speaker 1: Empties the dishwasher every morning and somebody else has a 264 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 1: different shore every morning or is there a rotation there? 265 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 3: No, it's literally like one child empties a little dishwasher, 266 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 3: the other child fills the dishwasher, and there's a child 267 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 3: to wipe all counters, there's a child to sweep. I've 268 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 3: got all kinds, all ages, all stages. I have some 269 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 3: kids who change diapers. That's like their job in the morning, 270 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 3: make sure that child has a clean diaper. And it's 271 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 3: I wouldn't say it's like perfect or it's peaceful, but 272 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 3: what it is is expectations have been said. I really 273 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 3: think that's what it is, Laura. When people ask me, 274 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 3: I don't understand, how do you survive? You must be 275 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 3: so like overwhelmed, And again it is chaotic. It is 276 00:14:54,600 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 3: overwhelming at times, but everyone has an expectation in the 277 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 3: family for what it looks like to contribute and to 278 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 3: have our household be successful, and that expectation has been 279 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 3: set and it's reinforced. I'm sure that it works in 280 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 3: some families to do short charts that are cute and 281 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:16,400 Speaker 3: you rotate a wheel and you move it around. 282 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 2: That's great. 283 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 3: In my family with as many moving pieces as I have, 284 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 3: doesn't work for me. The expectation is clear and it's repeatable. 285 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I've certainly found I mean, my family is 286 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 1: nowhere near as large as yours, but especially with my 287 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 1: youngest kid, I found things were actually easier because I 288 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 1: had older children who you know, could pinch hit in 289 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 1: the moment, and like, you know, I could run somewhere 290 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 1: for twenty minutes and leave a kid with you know, 291 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 1: the little guy with the older siblings, and it was great. 292 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 2: It was like, oh, I have I have more help 293 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 2: with that. Now. 294 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 1: I'm curious though, I mean, there's always one off things, right, 295 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, things can be repeatable, but then 296 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 1: like I don't know, four of the kids are in 297 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 1: band or something and they have a concert this week 298 00:15:56,480 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 1: and it's a new thing that has come in. Do 299 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 1: you have a planning time where you look at these 300 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 1: one off aberrations that are not so easy to just 301 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 1: set up on automated systems. 302 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 3: I learned this a really long time ago, and that's 303 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:16,640 Speaker 3: just simply to look at your calendar for the week 304 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 3: ahead and so on Sunday evenings is typically when I 305 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 3: do it, and it is to point, like truly, the 306 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 3: specific goal for me of the look ahead is what 307 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 3: is an anomaly? And then you're planning for Okay, maybe 308 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 3: that evening. Then I do need to pick up dinner, 309 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 3: so forget the simple meal. I'm picking up dinner, or 310 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 3: even like we have a cleaner that's on repeat. Okay, 311 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 3: our cleaner comes every two weeks. It's set and forget. 312 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 3: But there might be weeks where you know, oh I 313 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 3: have somebody coming over for the weekend, like my mom's 314 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 3: coming to watch the kids on the weekend. It actually 315 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 3: would be helpful if the cleaner got there on Friday 316 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 3: so that the bedroom in the bathroom is all clean, 317 00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 3: you know, that kind of thing. So there might be 318 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 3: things that need to be shift shifted given these unique situations. 319 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 3: So I learned that a really long time ago, and 320 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:08,480 Speaker 3: it is a really really good practice again for the 321 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:12,440 Speaker 3: practical things. But we cannot forget on the mindset coach, 322 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 3: So I'm always going to go this like the ability 323 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:22,920 Speaker 3: to create really great thoughts for yourself, to be able 324 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 3: to look at a week and be like, where am 325 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 3: I going to need? Like Lisa at her best, where 326 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:32,119 Speaker 3: is there going to be time in the week where okay, 327 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:35,240 Speaker 3: you can just chill? You know, where do we know? 328 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:37,359 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, I have this to look forward to, 329 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:41,680 Speaker 3: and so you can create the thoughts and the energy 330 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:45,720 Speaker 3: and the margin if needed, to support yourself to show 331 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 3: up in your best way. 332 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:49,920 Speaker 1: Absolutely all right, We're going to take one more quick 333 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:51,680 Speaker 1: ad break and then we will be back with more 334 00:17:51,760 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 1: from Lisa Canning. Well, I am back with Lisa Canning. 335 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:06,919 Speaker 1: We are talking organizational strategies with her household of many. 336 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:09,640 Speaker 1: But let's talk a little bit about Christmas, because even 337 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:13,680 Speaker 1: something like making a Christmas gift list or a Christmas budget, 338 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:19,360 Speaker 1: it's just a different matter when you have so many people. 339 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 1: So I am curious how far ahead that tends to 340 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 1: start and what the holiday planning process looks like for you. 341 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 3: I used to do holidays really last minute, and if 342 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 3: I'm honest, obviously like sometimes things happen where things are 343 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:41,679 Speaker 3: last minute, but more and more I am tending towards like, 344 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 3: how can I actually get it all done in November? 345 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:48,119 Speaker 3: So this will be the first year where I actually 346 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 3: I think I'm going to try to wrap. I'm going 347 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:53,399 Speaker 3: to try to do everything, like literally everything that I 348 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 3: possibly can, put it all in a massive like I 349 00:18:56,040 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 3: don't know where I'm going to store it. That's the problem. 350 00:18:57,880 --> 00:18:59,879 Speaker 3: I have no idea where I'll store all this, but 351 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:02,960 Speaker 3: I will figure that out. But I'm going to tempt 352 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 3: to get everything done in November. But a couple of 353 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 3: things that I do have is everything is in a 354 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 3: Google sheet, So I have records of what I've gotten 355 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 3: my children for the last I don't know, maybe ten 356 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 3: years in a Google sheet with prices and with categories. 357 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:23,440 Speaker 3: So I tend to get everybody gets something to where 358 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 3: everybody usually gets a book, and then everybody gets something 359 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 3: kind of fun. And that's been just so helpful because 360 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:34,360 Speaker 3: I can do a lot of the planning in advance. 361 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 3: I can shop Black Friday sales and you know, just 362 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 3: get get it done. And that's also how I stay 363 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:43,720 Speaker 3: in budget. So I swear by this Google sheet that 364 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:44,360 Speaker 3: I've created. 365 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 1: Google sheets are very helpful and just out of curiosity. 366 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 1: Are you aiming for the same dollar amount for each kid? 367 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:57,160 Speaker 3: Do my children listen to this podcast? So okay, very 368 00:19:57,280 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 3: very honest. The little kid kids who are unaware of 369 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 3: what things cosed are not proportionate to the price that 370 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:10,240 Speaker 3: I spend, the dollar amount that I spend on their 371 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:13,119 Speaker 3: older teenagers, like like their siblings who are teenagers. 372 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 2: So I mean, it is. 373 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:18,399 Speaker 3: Pretty and I'll be very transparent. It's dark like like 374 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 3: it's like I think I literally spent on my two 375 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:23,880 Speaker 3: year old last year twenty five dollars, like like literally, 376 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:27,399 Speaker 3: whereas the teenagers are getting into the like the two hundred, 377 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 3: two hundred and fifty type of you know, realm in 378 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 3: my family. If this is interesting to people, we do, 379 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:37,119 Speaker 3: or at least last year, we did group gifts, so 380 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 3: the older kids got a bigger gift and then they 381 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:41,639 Speaker 3: got a few small things to open, and then the 382 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:44,720 Speaker 3: younger kids got a group gift and then a few 383 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 3: small things open and then something we did last year 384 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:50,879 Speaker 3: that I anticipate we do this year again is a trip, 385 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 3: so just some type of experience. Last year we went 386 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:58,119 Speaker 3: to go see a beautiful concert in a town not 387 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 3: too far away, extravagant necessarily, but we value experience, and 388 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:07,400 Speaker 3: again in a family as large as mine, it also 389 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 3: is just kind of practical. It's like we all get 390 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:12,960 Speaker 3: to enjoy it. It's all somewhat you know, age appropriate 391 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 3: for all, and we create fun memories. 392 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 2: I love that. 393 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 1: And the group gift idea is fascinating. I ponder that one. 394 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 1: We'll see if maybe we'll make that happen this year. So, Lisa, 395 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:26,399 Speaker 1: I always ask my guests this question, what is something 396 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 1: you have done recently to take a day from great 397 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 1: to awesome? 398 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 3: So I am a Catholic. My face informs everything I do, right, 399 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:45,120 Speaker 3: So for me, going from great to awesome is really 400 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 3: taking time to reflect and contemplate when I go. When 401 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 3: I look back on my forty one years of life, 402 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:55,439 Speaker 3: like truly, if I were to evaluate it like just 403 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:59,400 Speaker 3: from a really like twenty thousand view, you know, kind 404 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 3: of lens, it's the times where I was not rushing. 405 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:07,200 Speaker 3: It was the times where I was not making decisions 406 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 3: based out of fear, the times when I didn't let 407 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:16,719 Speaker 3: the urgent win and I trusted that there would be 408 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:23,199 Speaker 3: enough time. That sentence, I just said, like, that's what 409 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:27,119 Speaker 3: great to awesome means for me, because again, you can imagine, like, 410 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:30,440 Speaker 3: if I'm being really transparent, on the other side of 411 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 3: you know, what viewers and what listeners cannot see is 412 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:39,720 Speaker 3: like three piles of unfolded laundry. I could get very 413 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:44,679 Speaker 3: stressed about that, and sometimes I do. But what great 414 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:51,119 Speaker 3: to awesome looks like for me is this peaceful, deliberate 415 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:56,679 Speaker 3: confidence that there are going to be like, there is 416 00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 3: time for the things that truly matter in this moment, 417 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:03,880 Speaker 3: so right now, that's talking to you, and there will 418 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 3: be time for the unfolded laundry, and that what's good, 419 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 3: what's good, what's yeah, what's what's great awesome truly is 420 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:18,640 Speaker 3: when I don't feel any type of tension between literally 421 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 3: any of my competing priorities. And for me, what that 422 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 3: looks like is walking in contemplation, taking that time to pray, 423 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:35,879 Speaker 3: and having a deliberate posture of I'm making time for 424 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 3: what truly matters right this moment, and I trust that 425 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:41,120 Speaker 3: the rest will get. 426 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:44,400 Speaker 1: Done absolutely, or the laundry won't get folded. We put 427 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:46,639 Speaker 1: a lot of things in the drawers not folded. It 428 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:50,400 Speaker 1: turns out to that time a lot of kids shorts 429 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:53,160 Speaker 1: and shirts and things like that. You know, whatever it'll 430 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:54,880 Speaker 1: be okay. So what pants you know what. 431 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 3: I want to do one day when I renovate my 432 00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 3: dream home. I think I'm going to do a communal clock. 433 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 2: Like everyone just goes in and finds what they can No, 434 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:04,200 Speaker 2: you just. 435 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:06,840 Speaker 3: Go from the laundry room to this huge closet. I 436 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:09,879 Speaker 3: check back with me and see if I've done it 437 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 3: one day as a concept. 438 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 2: All right, giant group closet. Love it, Lisa. What are 439 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:16,960 Speaker 2: you looking forward to right now? 440 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 3: I love the holiday season, so I am truly looking 441 00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:29,919 Speaker 3: forward to, you know, times buy a roaring fireplace, times 442 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:33,920 Speaker 3: just very aimless with a with a hot beverage, watching 443 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 3: the snowfall, and the time that you get to spend 444 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,320 Speaker 3: a little bit unplugged. I'm really looking forward to that 445 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:40,359 Speaker 3: this holiday season. 446 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:42,919 Speaker 2: Wonderful well, Lisa. Where can people find you? 447 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:46,720 Speaker 3: Oh, come join the party at Lisa Canning on Instagram 448 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 3: is where you can see the journey of my eleven 449 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 3: gorgeous kids and what it's like to juggle multiple businesses, 450 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:56,600 Speaker 3: multiple passions and multiple children. And then my website Lisa 451 00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:57,480 Speaker 3: Canning dot ca. 452 00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:01,320 Speaker 1: A wonderful well, Lisa, Thank you so much for joining us. 453 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 1: Thank you to everyone for listening. 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