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Speaker 1: On this episode of Rich World. The Islamic Revolutionary Guard

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Speaker 1: Corps IRGC has around ninety drones for commercial, surveillance, tactical

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Speaker 1: and suicide missions. The IRGC not only shipped its suicide

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Speaker 1: drones to Russia to be used against Ukraine, but also

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Speaker 1: equipped its proxies such as Lebanese has Bellah, Eumeni, Huthis,

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Speaker 1: the Syrian Army and Iraqishia militia groups with all kinds

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Speaker 1: of armed drones. The IRGC has also sold arm drones

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Speaker 1: to Venezuela, Ethiopia and soon Armenia to use in case

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Speaker 1: of war again with the Republic of Azerbaijan. The Iranian

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Speaker 1: drones look primitive and unsophisticated, but are still very lethal.

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Speaker 1: A small and innovative drone made of wood and foam

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Speaker 1: with a small engine carrying about five kilograms that's eleven

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Speaker 1: pounds of explosives may seem on important and impractical at

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Speaker 1: first glance. Effectively, using such a simple and primitive drone

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Speaker 1: can impose a high cost on the enemy. Iran has

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Speaker 1: decided to enter a drone market, focusing on more accurate,

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Speaker 1: longer range drones. The use of technologically capable Iranian drones

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Speaker 1: as Iranians advance their drone technology with a more extended

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Speaker 1: range and improved precision, can be devastating to ground forces.

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Speaker 1: All of this is detailed the new book Iranian Drones,

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Speaker 1: A New Menace from the Ayatola. So I'm really pleased

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Speaker 1: to welcome my guests, the author of Meron Riazati Maran,

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Speaker 1: Welcome and thank you for joining me on News World.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for having me on your show.

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Speaker 1: Tell us a little bit, Moron about your background.

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Speaker 3: I am Iranian American, been living in eight States for

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Speaker 3: almost forty two years. I done my grad and undergrad

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Speaker 3: the United States at Claremont. Been very interested in politics.

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Speaker 3: That's why my undergrad and grad was on political science

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Speaker 3: political philosophy. And since twowny twenty right before on a

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Speaker 3: Rock where I started working focusing on Iran and during

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Speaker 3: the US invading.

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Speaker 2: Iraq, I was part of the mission. I was there

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Speaker 2: for two years.

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Speaker 3: Since then, I've been on and off working for different

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Speaker 3: US agencies on Iran.

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Speaker 1: You ever had very practical field experience as a Farsi

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Speaker 1: linguist in Iraq. That must have been quite an experience.

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Speaker 3: Yes, it was very interesting. See one of the reasons

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Speaker 3: I wrote this book. When I was in Iraq, I

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Speaker 3: realized that our troops and a lot of are officially

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Speaker 3: even don't know in the detail what's going on and

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Speaker 3: so about the Rockies and all of that. So then

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Speaker 3: I thought about it, Okay, that's going to also affect

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Speaker 3: when it comes to Iran.

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Speaker 2: That's why I start writing about Iran.

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Speaker 1: Were you surprised that, despite all these years, going back

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Speaker 1: I guess to the hostage crisis of nineteen seventy nine,

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Speaker 1: how few people had really focused on Iran and really

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Speaker 1: tried to develop an understanding of how the Iranian works.

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Speaker 3: People really think they know, they might know Iran, but

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Speaker 3: they don't know Irani.

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Speaker 2: And I told.

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Speaker 4: Us how their brain operates. See, in the free world,

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Speaker 4: in the United States and Europe, we separate church from

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Speaker 4: the state. In Iran, actually the mask dominating the policies

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Speaker 4: of the state, So that's difficult for our policy makers

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Speaker 4: sometimes to understand how they operates.

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Speaker 1: It seems to me that they have, despite our efforts

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Speaker 1: to slow them down, they've actually built a fairly sophisticated

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Speaker 3: Yes, you see, let's say last twelve to thirteen years,

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Speaker 3: we've been dealing with how to contain an iron nuclear program.

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Speaker 3: Then the missile came, we tried to containing their missiles,

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Speaker 3: then Iranian proxies. Now on top of that, now we

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Speaker 3: got to deal with the Iranian drolls. Let's go back

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Speaker 3: to Iranian. When I'm thinking about the Iranian nuclear program,

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Speaker 3: to be honest, they remind me of Arabian one thousand

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Speaker 3: one night with Thu Shata not to be killed. One

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Speaker 3: be killed. But Iran nuclear is almost seven years or

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Speaker 3: even more every day telling that the new story. So

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Speaker 3: apparently Iranian are very good storytellers.

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Speaker 1: They've also made a real investment in defense technologies, yes, sir,

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Speaker 1: that we would not have expected. And what is I'm

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Speaker 1: fascinated by is that they produce much lower cost systems

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Speaker 3: Yes, certain see their low cost See when they compare

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Speaker 3: or eight million dollars. Now other country thinking about to

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Speaker 3: the Supreme Leader and in general STAFFAVI the twenty countries

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Speaker 3: say Iranian drone compared with some people they're comparing it

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Speaker 3: with the Turkish TBT two with TBT two was used

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Speaker 3: Each of them costs one point with two million dollars,

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Speaker 3: in this market country they don't have money, they go

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Speaker 1: I noticed that all of you Crange Defense intelligence said

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Speaker 1: the Russia ordered seventeen hundred Iranian drones so.

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Speaker 3: Far, yes, seventeen. The new one they ordered old one

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Speaker 3: is six thousands. And now Iran, you know, having a

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Speaker 3: building a factory drone factory in Russia.

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Speaker 1: And this is sort of the world turned upside down.

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Speaker 3: Yes it is, sir, Have.

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Speaker 1: We seen them? We try to use the drones in

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Speaker 3: I believe. So who is used in Aramko? I mean

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Speaker 3: all of the Iranian proxy. Another important point is that

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Speaker 3: Iran has so many other suicide drones. I could say

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Speaker 3: Cara Mohadjir so many other which in future when he

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Speaker 3: come to the pictures, twenty people oh Iranian as this

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Speaker 3: They've been using it. I think Iran used it against

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Speaker 3: Kourish in Iraqi court and Iranian are widely using it,

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Speaker 3: but they don't say anything. You don't see the news,

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Speaker 3: and so how they're using it, yes.

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Speaker 1: Does not also make it a major threat for Israel.

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Speaker 3: It is sir it is major actually archie enemy. I

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Speaker 3: mean the Lemnini has Bulah. They have Iranian drones. They've

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Speaker 3: been using it Israeli so far, I believe they've shut

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Speaker 3: So of course, I mean Israel. Lobli Bula is one

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Speaker 3: Doblinibula has it too well.

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Speaker 1: And I noticed, I mean in terms of their effectiveness.

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Speaker 1: I noticed that Ukrainian President Zelenski had said publicly that

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Speaker 1: Iranian drones have damaged over thirty percent of Ukraine's energy sector.

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Speaker 1: When you use enough of them, they are really very

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Speaker 1: serious as a weapon.

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Speaker 3: When you use five or six of them. Each of

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Speaker 3: midst of it's called one million dollars, and they're pre devastating.

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Speaker 3: Like I read that show had one thirty six got

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Speaker 3: a pret noisy when he come at you, he really

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Speaker 3: scared the hell out of you. So, yes, sir.

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Speaker 1: So one of the points you make is that the

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Speaker 1: effort to develop a jamming strategy to lock them in

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Speaker 1: fact may not work, both because there are too many

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Speaker 1: sensitive sites don't have enough jammers, but also that they

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Speaker 1: may actually be building the drones now so that the

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Speaker 1: jamming doesn't affect them. Are the Iranians now that's sophisticated.

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Speaker 3: Yes, Sometimes I think when you know some system of

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Speaker 3: tooth sophisticated, they don't don't see primitive stuff.

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Speaker 2: So that's how and using it. Yes, sir, you're absolutely correct.

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Speaker 1: get so sophisticated and so expensive that they can't compete

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Speaker 1: but as a result of mass, because they can afford

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Speaker 1: the Iranians have worked towards that kind of mass approach. Frankly,

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Speaker 1: if they get enough customers, they're going to have a

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Speaker 3: Of course, I mean see in October you want the delusion,

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Speaker 3: it's going to be left up there. Some Iranian sanctions

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Speaker 3: which Iran could sell drones and missiles. So Iranian baiting

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Speaker 3: for that time. In October eighteen twenty three, the deision

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Speaker 3: some other weapons. Imagine, then Iran could easily Then now

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Speaker 3: they are selling it covertly, then they're gonna sell.

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Speaker 1: It overtly, right, and you'll see places like Cuba, Venezuela,

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Speaker 2: Absolutely correccept.

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Speaker 1: It's been very clever of them to go to very

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Speaker 3: Yes, it is because say they don't have access to

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Speaker 3: this with whatever they have, especially if we put them

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Speaker 3: of course, if you read they get some part of

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Speaker 1: I'm guessing that everywhere that they sell drones. They also

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Speaker 3: I mean in Russia they send trainers to Ukraine to

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Speaker 3: show how the shild won thirty six books.

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Speaker 1: So you begin to get Iranian trainers scattered all around

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Speaker 1: the world. Iranian technology cash flowing back to Iran strikes

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Speaker 1: me that this is a very underreported and understudied phenomenon.

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Speaker 2: Yes, sir, correct sir.

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Speaker 1: You make the point in your book that Ethiopia, which

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Speaker 1: has grown into a country of one hundred and fifteen

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Speaker 3: Ethiopia, soon, Serbia and Bolivia.

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Speaker 1: And there's a steady spread everywhere. Now, why were the

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Speaker 1: Turks not able to match them in price?

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Speaker 3: Because it's expensive, Sir Iranian. I mean, as I said,

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Speaker 3: TB two one of the good Turkish it cost one

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Speaker 3: So which one you go for, especially you're a poor

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Speaker 2: Who you go with?

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Speaker 1: Well, especially if you're buying suicide drones, you're only going.

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Speaker 3: To use them one, yes, sir, yes, sir yes, sir.

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Speaker 1: So in a way, you'd like to be able to

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Speaker 1: send waves of drone.

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Speaker 3: And the scary part is that Iranian tried to have

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Speaker 2: So it's going to be even more dangest thing coming years.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well already. I mean, I know we have technology

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Speaker 1: You make a really interesting point that the very sanctions

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Speaker 1: What should the US be doing?

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Speaker 3: Not that way. It's not for that easy target. We

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Speaker 1: Well, and if they shoot sixty or seventy one hundred

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Speaker 3: Yes sir, yes it is.

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Speaker 1: When you developed this book with these beautiful color pictures,

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Speaker 3: It all being translated. Everything is original, yes sir.

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Speaker 3: What is interesting about my book is that there are

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Speaker 2: You know. I got around ninety drones.

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Speaker 3: A bitter photos, the specification, all of that and all

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Speaker 1: So in a way, say the American military or for

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Speaker 1: new book Iranian Drones A New Menace from that I

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Speaker 3: Yes, sir, you remember I wrote another book with Comenius Warriors. Yes,

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Speaker 1: Which I think is important. It's very important for the

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Speaker 3: And we're still on thisting them. Especially Irani is not

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Speaker 3: Of course, in Iraq they pull out Iranian fill up

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Speaker 1: When you think about, for example, the Saudi oil fields

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Speaker 3: It crazy people, ideologue people, they could do a lot

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Speaker 1: Yeah, its that have been gradually steadily breaking out. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: It's really astonishing, Narn. I really want to thank you

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