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Speaker 1: What's up everybody? John Middlecoff, Freeing Out podcast, back at

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Speaker 1: it again. I'd say it's a beautiful day, but it's

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Speaker 1: just not porn. Rain outside. Did play golf yesterday in Napa,

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Speaker 1: little chili. So you guys on the East coast dealing

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Speaker 1: misery with you guys. Good show coming up. Some thoughts

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Speaker 1: on Buccaneers, Brady Football's popularity, some weird stuff going on

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Speaker 1: that situation. Red flagged Cowboys they deserve a little credit

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Speaker 1: on this one. Just some other little stories, just you know,

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Speaker 1: things that are popping up, players getting released, Urban Meyer

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Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence is having a pro day. Not sure or

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Speaker 1: what uh? And then of course Middlecoff mailbag at John

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Speaker 1: and we answer your questions here on the podcast. Also

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Speaker 1: three and Out podcast. You guys liked this show, subscribe

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Speaker 1: to the Three and Out podcast feed. Obviously, Colin's have

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Speaker 1: the stuff going on with the volume, A lot of

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Speaker 1: moving parts. When I was pushing this, you know, six

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Speaker 1: being shade, I'm not. It's all intertwined. This is a

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Speaker 1: team effort. Colin I even though he almost went down

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Speaker 1: He's like a sick. I didn't think that much of it.

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Speaker 1: Then Colin post that I was like, God called immediately.

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Speaker 1: He's doing good. Obviously he had another Instagram the day

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Speaker 1: with Justin Herbert sent him a sign football. So um,

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Speaker 1: it's good. But the group effort. Subscribe to this podcast.

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Speaker 1: That's what we needed to do. Colin needs you do.

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Speaker 1: I need you to do. We all need you to

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Speaker 1: do it. Subscribe to the podcast if you like the show.

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Speaker 1: If not, we'll maybe we'll run into each other again.

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Speaker 1: But I want to start with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

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Speaker 1: They just threw the parade, and I was thinking about

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Speaker 1: always think about the Yucks. Now I grew up Steve

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Speaker 1: and I'm a Friends of the State guy. So I've

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Speaker 1: followed Dilford's career really closely. I um, you know, I've

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Speaker 1: And I do think this. The Buccaneers have two Super

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Speaker 1: And it kind of looks cheesy actually looking at it,

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Speaker 1: but it says something very very simple. Because I thought,

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Speaker 1: every day when I walk into my office, I want

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Speaker 1: kind of that Tony Robbins manifest, the positive talk. It's fun.

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Speaker 1: It just says, fortune favors the brave, and Luckily and

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Speaker 1: But just in general, I've tried to patent my life

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Speaker 1: philosophies on being aggressive. The fortune favors the brave. Take

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Speaker 1: like he wants out and there are rumors years before

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Speaker 1: remember Colin talked about it. He wanted to go to

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Speaker 1: New York, and at the time, it was like they're

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Speaker 1: not gonna get rid of him, and it didn't make

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Speaker 1: much sense. And I still don't believe like John Schneider

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Speaker 1: and Pete Carroll walk into work even thinking about, like

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Speaker 1: I want to move on from Russell Wilson. But I

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Speaker 1: wonder if they get to the point, like if he

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Speaker 1: doesn't really want to be here, and he's not gonna

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Speaker 1: come out and say it, because that's not what politicians do.

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Speaker 1: They beat around the bush, they start playing the game. Well,

437
00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:03,360
Speaker 1: what's the game being played right now? All these leaks?

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Speaker 1: This is the Lebron playbook. Play the game. And in

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Speaker 1: fairness to Lebron never asked for a trade every time

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Speaker 1: he's ever left free agency. That's not really possible in

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Speaker 1: football because you always got to sign these big contracts,

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Speaker 1: and Russell signed one a couple of years ago. But

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Speaker 1: I think it's hard to think anything else that I

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Speaker 1: think it kind of wants to go somewhere different. And

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Speaker 1: I just wonder if you're Seattle, you know you got

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Speaker 1: this guy for a third round pick. You both you

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Speaker 1: and the head coach got long term contract extensions. You've

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Speaker 1: had a ton of success, you want a super Bowl,

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Speaker 1: you got back to another. Could this be the time

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Speaker 1: to just hit reset a little bit while still winning,

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Speaker 1: make a huge trade. Hell, you could do something like

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Speaker 1: you could even do a crazy move like trade him

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Speaker 1: to the Raiders and then use Derek Carr to and

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Speaker 1: all these picks to try to get to Shaun Watson.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't necessarily know the answer. It

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Speaker 1: is pretty complicated. Trade him to the Jets to get

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Speaker 1: the second overall pick and some other first rounders. I

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Speaker 1: just wonder if, for the first time in the history

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Speaker 1: of the Russell Wilson air in Seattle, if John Snyder

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Speaker 1: and Pete Carroll can go a Pete, let's, uh, let's

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Speaker 1: have a meeting tomorrow about lunch and just just discuss

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Speaker 1: some things about Russell. Should we should we make some

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Speaker 1: active calls and just see what we can get. Now, Listen,

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Speaker 1: being in the business of trading Russell Wilson would never

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Speaker 1: be a good business. I'm not advocating doing that. I

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Speaker 1: just wonder, if you're them, You're now under contract for

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Speaker 1: a long period of time, You've already won a Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: If this guy wants out now, if Russell wants to

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Speaker 1: be there, obviously wouldn't trade him. But if like, you

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Speaker 1: start getting the like, is this guy even want to

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Speaker 1: be here? Is this guy kind of getting too big

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Speaker 1: time for us? And not in the sense we're like

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Speaker 1: Rogers could get mad over stuff. But I don't think

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Speaker 1: he really did this. Rogers never really did Roger get

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Speaker 1: that weird until they drafted Jordan's Love. I just my

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Speaker 1: ship detectors up, my red flags up on this one,

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Speaker 1: and I just do wonder if maybe there's some meat

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Speaker 1: to this, if there would just be some opportunities trade

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Speaker 1: in New York. Maybe he wants to go to a

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Speaker 1: big market. Uh, you know, he's got a famous wife.

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Speaker 1: Maybe it's just run its course for Russell. It hasn't

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Speaker 1: necessarily run its course for Seattle, because you never get

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Speaker 1: rid of a good quarterback, a great quarterback in his prime.

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Speaker 1: But if the guy doesn't want to be there, like,

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Speaker 1: what are you supposed to do? Because this notion that

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Speaker 1: they haven't done a lot for him is complete bullshit.

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Speaker 1: They always put all the we talked about fortune favors

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Speaker 1: the Brave. They were constantly trading picks for star players.

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Speaker 1: It didn't always work out Jimmy Graham, Percy Harvin, Jamal Adams,

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Speaker 1: like they're constantly taking big swings. When I think of

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Speaker 1: John Schneider, I think if a guy would just pick

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Speaker 1: a honus when it comes with trading picks for players,

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Speaker 1: doesn't mean he's always right, because, like I said, you're

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Speaker 1: not gonna be when that's your mindset. If you if

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Speaker 1: you if you go play golf and you go after

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Speaker 1: every pin, sometimes you're gonna hit it in the sand.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes you're gonna hit it in the water. Sometimes you're

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Speaker 1: gonna hit it five feet and have tapping birdies. If

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Speaker 1: you played in the middle of the green all the

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Speaker 1: time and you're not a great putter, you're you're not

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Speaker 1: gonna get many birdies. Times you gotta go pin hunting.

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Speaker 1: And I think Seattle for the most part has are

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Speaker 1: they the perfect team? If they missed on picks for sure,

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Speaker 1: and maybe there's a put myself in Russell's shoes? Do

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Speaker 1: you blame him? You make a ton of money. You

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Speaker 1: know you carry the team. Everyone tells you you carry

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Speaker 1: the team, all of us fans and people to talk

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Speaker 1: about the league. We acknowledge that maybe he just thinks,

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Speaker 1: like I want to go somewhere else to a bigger market.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, but it's it's not really disputable now

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Speaker 1: that something's going on. And this might get a little

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Speaker 1: weirder as we get closer to free agency. Okay, now, listen,

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Speaker 1: people hate this and they haven't been to the conference

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Speaker 1: championship since Barry Switzer, him At Smith, Michael Irvin and

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Speaker 1: Troy Aikman. Pretty sure that was six And they're still

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Speaker 1: the biggest brand in all of football. And if you're

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Speaker 1: the biggest brandon all of football, you're arguably the biggest

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Speaker 1: brand in America. Even though, let you say whatever you

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Speaker 1: want about baseball, I'd give the nod to the Yankees.

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Speaker 1: Uh we saw the ratings when the Lakers were in

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Speaker 1: the championship. You can't. The Cowboys are just infinitely bigger

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Speaker 1: than the Lakers in terms of you put a game

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Speaker 1: on the amount of people that watch. I'm not saying

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Speaker 1: that the Lakers aren't massive. I'm not Listen, I'm I

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Speaker 1: grew up King's fan hate the Lakers, but massive brand too.

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Speaker 1: When I think big brand sports, I think Yankees, Cowboys,

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Speaker 1: Lakers like those two me are the three stalwarts for

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Speaker 1: each league. And the crazy part about the Cowboys is

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Speaker 1: they've sucked. Sucked would be strong. They were, they were

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Speaker 1: competitive with Jason Garrett, but they have not like had

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Speaker 1: a legitimate super Bowl team. I guess we thought they

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Speaker 1: did the year when Tony heard his back, Dac took

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Speaker 1: over and then Rogers beat him in the playoffs. I

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Speaker 1: remember watching that game actually, I think it was my

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Speaker 1: old place and thinking, God, see what you want about

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Speaker 1: this rookie Dac. Remember their defense got destroyed, but Dac

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Speaker 1: was really good in that game, and I think they

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Speaker 1: Jerry is such a polarizing figure because a little bit

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Speaker 1: like uh, George Steinbrenner. He's kind of like this GM,

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Speaker 1: but unlike George, he can't spend all his money. He's

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Speaker 1: got so much because of the salary cap. But he's

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Speaker 1: Actually you look at their track record as a personnel department,

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Speaker 1: they've been pretty good, and you can nitpick them on

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Speaker 1: signings and sometimes they wait too long. And I know

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Speaker 1: guys in the league they think that they always wait

546
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Speaker 1: too long to sign a guy and then they end

547
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Speaker 1: up paying a premium. Right, it would be the equivalent

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Speaker 1: of like, you know, I want this stock, but hopefully

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Speaker 1: it goes down a little bit or doesn't go up

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Speaker 1: even though you know you're gonna buy it anyway. It's

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Speaker 1: a thirty dollars, you're gonna end up buying it for

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Speaker 1: forty dollars, so you might as well just buy it

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Speaker 1: at thirty dollars. But they always wait, and then they

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Speaker 1: get in these positions where you know, Jerry unlike a

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Speaker 1: lot of gms, aren't. He's not numb, right. I think

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Speaker 1: the best gms historically can balance Aussie Belichick what Colbert

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Speaker 1: does in Pittsburgh Schneider there. They like the players that

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Speaker 1: they picked, but you gotta be willing to to pivot

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Speaker 1: or to not pay a guy, and Jerry is just

560
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Speaker 1: usually breaks down and gives too much money to guys

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Speaker 1: that I think some other teams wouldn't and then some

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Speaker 1: other guys that he should. Maybe doesn't always pull the trigger,

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Speaker 1: but I I do think you can nitpick probably any

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Speaker 1: GM in any sport, definitely football. It's not easy because

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Speaker 1: the other thing with football, unlike basketball, and maybe baseball too,

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Speaker 1: because baseball has Tommy John's with pictures, but guys get

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Speaker 1: injured so often in football, and you just never know,

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Speaker 1: like a baseball pitcher who's coming along if he's twenty

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Speaker 1: six years old. It is probably gonna be good line.

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Speaker 1: Right in football, you signed Zeke all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: two years later he looks terrible. Now you can argue

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Speaker 1: middle colf. It's a running back. They fall off a cliff.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I thought Zeke was awesome then all

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Speaker 1: of a sudden, now he looks slow and Paulard looks

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Speaker 1: like he's faster. Like that. That happened pretty fast, you

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Speaker 1: know it did. But he took a lot of ship

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Speaker 1: I think around the league, not necessarily for me, because

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Speaker 1: I I supported it by not giving Dak Prescott a

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Speaker 1: long term contract. Never like, what is he doing? What

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Speaker 1: is he doing? What is he doing? And I went well.

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Speaker 1: Jerry had the famous line, I've never regretted paying a

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Speaker 1: premium for a premium. Right, if you pay a premium

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Speaker 1: for another premium, you're gonna be good whenever you cut costs,

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Speaker 1: and we all do it for a bunch of stuff.

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Speaker 1: I was thinking about, I want to play golf the

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Speaker 1: other day, and I have a range finder, right, the

587
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Speaker 1: thing that you aim at the pen from wherever you are.

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Speaker 1: You press the button and it tells you how far

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Speaker 1: you are. Hundred fifty arts hunter eighty yards, twenty yards whatever.

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00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 1: Probably don't need it for twenty yards. But you know

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Speaker 1: anyone that played golf that has a rain finder, they help.

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Speaker 1: But I went cheap. I have one. I gotta like

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Speaker 1: a hundred bucks on Amazon. My brother has one that's

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Speaker 1: like a hunting one. It gives you the slope, so

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Speaker 1: if you're above the hole or below the whole, it

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Speaker 1: factors that in. And it's also really powerful mine. You

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Speaker 1: go to the wrong you go to a course with

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Speaker 1: a little fog, you can't see anything. It's a disaster.

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00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 1: It's cheap. I went cheap and I paid for it.

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Speaker 1: And I think with quarterbacks, especially when you draft one

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Speaker 1: and you hit it right, you're always thinking you gotta

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Speaker 1: pay him, You gotta pay him, you gotta pam. You're

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Speaker 1: seeing this with Josh Allen. You're seeing this with Lamar Jackson,

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Speaker 1: and probably not Baker Mayfield. But they're gonna pick up

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Speaker 1: his fifth year option. I didn't think they would halfway

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Speaker 1: through the season, then Baker turned it on. They're gonna

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Speaker 1: pick up a fIF year option. But I've been thinking

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Speaker 1: about this with Lamar Jackson. Why do you need to

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Speaker 1: pay him right now? You like him? He changed your franchise.

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Speaker 1: He's a good player. What is the rush? Let him

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Speaker 1: play at his fourth year? Even Josh Allen and I

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00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:05,640
Speaker 1: you guys know me. I'm a big Josh Allen fan.

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Speaker 1: He said, one great year, see if you can do

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00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:10,720
Speaker 1: it again, they don't pay him huge money. Now, they're

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Speaker 1: probably gonna pay him this offseason, But just tell me

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Speaker 1: what's the rush to get his cap number down a

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Speaker 1: little bit? What's the worst case scenario? He leads you

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Speaker 1: to the super Bowl next year and you feel good

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Speaker 1: about paying him, Like you feel good about paying him now,

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Speaker 1: but you can feel really good. What if you don't

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Speaker 1: pay Lamar Jackson? What's the worst thing that could happen?

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Speaker 1: He takes you a super Bowl and you gotta pay

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Speaker 1: him huge money? Fine, Okay, Now, granted, I think the

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Speaker 1: Ravens will be like we did that before with flat Go.

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Speaker 1: It didn't work out very well. Now, Lamar much better

626
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Speaker 1: regular season player than Flac whoever was. But I think

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Speaker 1: we're always in this huge rush. Mahomes won an m

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Speaker 1: v P and then won a super Bowl and carried

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Speaker 1: his team to that super Bowl, so it was like, okay,

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Speaker 1: but is that the goal of this thing? To win

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Speaker 1: a super Bowl. You know, Aaron Rodgers and in Russell Wilson.

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Speaker 1: Both those guys had a super Bowl championship on their resume.

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Speaker 1: I think we just rushed to pay everybody. We saw

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Speaker 1: Jared Off losing the Super Bowl. They gave him a

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Speaker 1: huge contract extension the next two years. Terrible, I mean

636
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 1: terrible would be strong, but clearly not anywhere as good

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Speaker 1: as they thought he was those first two years. Coach

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Speaker 1: Jim ended up hating him. They traded him Carson Wentz,

639
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 1: who had proved less than Jared Goff because he could

640
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 1: never stay healthy, who was way more talented than Jared Goff.

641
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:22,520
Speaker 1: The reason that you felt decent about paying him, Then

642
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:25,480
Speaker 1: you pay him and he gets bad and he kind

643
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 1: of becomes a diva disaster. If the Eagles and the

644
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 1: Rams had those to do over again, what would they

645
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 1: have done? Both would have waited, but the moment they

646
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:37,720
Speaker 1: extend and listen. I don't know anyone with the Rams,

647
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:39,840
Speaker 1: but how he got a lot of credit. And it

648
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:43,520
Speaker 1: is the forward thinking thing to do, right because you

649
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 1: get his cap number down, you get him under contract,

650
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 1: you're also kind of hedging against him taking another step

651
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 1: and becoming a super duper star. But it's it's a gamble.

652
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 1: Both those teams bet on their players shooting to the moon,

653
00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:01,960
Speaker 1: becoming high end m v P caliber players every year.

654
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 1: They want they regressed, They want the other way immediately.

655
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 1: Their investment was a disaster. The Cowboys who just like

656
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:14,399
Speaker 1: I said, Jerry, polarizing figure. You say Jerry Jones. That's

657
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 1: where I do think he has the parallels with George Steinbrenner.

658
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:20,840
Speaker 1: I like Halan Hank just don't move the needle. But

659
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 1: when I was growing up, and I can't imagine what

660
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:24,920
Speaker 1: it's like if you're an older person or you're an

661
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,399
Speaker 1: East Coast fan, you're a Yankee fan, if you grew

662
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:29,719
Speaker 1: up and your dad was like George Steinbrenner was f

663
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 1: you know a character, a figure like Al Davis. You know,

664
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 1: just you just said his name and people just like

665
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:38,920
Speaker 1: WHOA had an opinion? That's Jerry. You say Jerry, And

666
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:42,279
Speaker 1: just like you just walk around the street and you

667
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:45,239
Speaker 1: ran into a casual sports fan. You brought up Jerry Jones.

668
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:47,320
Speaker 1: They're gonna have a take, They're gonna have an opinion.

669
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:50,760
Speaker 1: When he didn't extend act like other guys getting extended,

670
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 1: he got a lot of ship well, then what happened.

671
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 1: He got Mike McCarthy, which might be a disaster too,

672
00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:59,239
Speaker 1: but that is Jerry's disaster that he signed up for.

673
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,040
Speaker 1: And even though Dak was killing it, they weren't winning

674
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 1: any games. And then he gets injured, so all reports

675
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 1: say that he's gonna franchise him again at thirty four

676
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 1: point five million dollars. Now, unlike a long term contract,

677
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:18,480
Speaker 1: you can spread out the money, so cap hits at

678
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 1: different points in time, right, and the amount of money

679
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:23,360
Speaker 1: to pay him is different from the dead cap is

680
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 1: different from the cap hit. With a franchise tag, your

681
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:30,239
Speaker 1: cap hit and you're dead. It's all thirty four point five.

682
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:34,839
Speaker 1: You're guaranteed money. Every penny's guaranteed. But let's see, like,

683
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:38,280
Speaker 1: to me, if you're Jerry Jones, in what world unless

684
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:41,760
Speaker 1: DAC would take a massive, like team friendly deal, which

685
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:45,400
Speaker 1: makes no sense from his standpoint, why wouldn't he just

686
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:47,719
Speaker 1: play this thing out? Let's see what dec looks like

687
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 1: on thirty five million dollars with the team we have,

688
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:53,399
Speaker 1: because if we go six and ten, we can blame

689
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 1: the coach all we want. But to me, the Cowboys

690
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:57,320
Speaker 1: have a little bit of like a U C. L

691
00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 1: a football field. Is it always the coach or sometimes

692
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:03,880
Speaker 1: as the players too. Sometimes maybe it's even the organization.

693
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:06,759
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't have the answer. But what

694
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:08,960
Speaker 1: is the rush to give Dak Prescott a hundred thirty

695
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 1: million dollars? Because if Jerry said he's never gone wrong

696
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:14,960
Speaker 1: paying a premium for a premium, are we sure Dak

697
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:18,439
Speaker 1: Prescott's a premium? He wasn't as a draft prospect. He's

698
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:21,799
Speaker 1: been a really good player. But even a die hard

699
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 1: Cowboy fan or a Dak fan would say, yeah, I

700
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 1: mean Russell's better, Rogers better. He's never gonna be my homes. Uh,

701
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:33,120
Speaker 1: can he ever be a top not even five, top

702
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:36,239
Speaker 1: seven eight guy? If you believe he can be a

703
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:38,759
Speaker 1: top seven eight guy for five year stretch, you pay

704
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 1: a guy. If you have any reservations and you go,

705
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:45,400
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know, I don't I'm not comfortable,

706
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:50,480
Speaker 1: then don't pay a guy because you get in disastrous

707
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 1: situations when you pay quarterbacks. You're not sure. If the

708
00:36:55,239 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 1: Chiefs never had any reservations on Mahomes from the draft

709
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 1: too when they actually drafted him, to when he finally

710
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 1: played that one game at the end of his rookie

711
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:10,359
Speaker 1: year too, when he became a starter too, when he

712
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:12,920
Speaker 1: won the Super Bowl, they felt they were all in.

713
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:17,040
Speaker 1: The Cowboys, ever truly felt all in on Dakota Prescott.

714
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 1: He wasn't a starter when they drafted him. Hell, he

715
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 1: wasn't even the backup. Tony got hurt, Kellen Moore got hurt.

716
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 1: Then he had a fantastic year, but then like some

717
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:28,279
Speaker 1: of his yards, some of his time, and I think

718
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 1: you see this like with Derek Carr. Derek Carr is

719
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:35,680
Speaker 1: a good player. He's like a million dollar player. He's

720
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:38,400
Speaker 1: a good starter. He's not the reason the Raiders are losing.

721
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:41,920
Speaker 1: But is he a star? No he's not. Is he

722
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:44,480
Speaker 1: even like a pro bowler? No he's not. Is he

723
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:48,360
Speaker 1: a top you know, I'd say somewhere between like eleven

724
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 1: and fifteen. And he's good. You can win games with him,

725
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 1: But do you ever want to go all in on him? No,

726
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:57,440
Speaker 1: it's the reason Gruden won't. I think there are elements

727
00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:00,760
Speaker 1: of that with dak and they're definitely looking back elements

728
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:02,920
Speaker 1: of that with golf. Carson has kind of in his

729
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:05,360
Speaker 1: own category because he's got more talent than all those guys,

730
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:07,799
Speaker 1: but he's got his own issues. Maybe he's just not

731
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:11,759
Speaker 1: any good, maybe he's a diva. Who knows. I just

732
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:14,200
Speaker 1: think you gotta be very, very careful. Jerry deserves credit

733
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 1: on this one. Sometimes in life you gotta let things

734
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:20,440
Speaker 1: play out. Everyone's always in a rush, Like you're you

735
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 1: saying Bolt right or Michael Johnson, I would never forget

736
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 1: that Olympics and you're just trying to win the race.

737
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:29,879
Speaker 1: Who can get him signed fast enough? And you're gonna

738
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:33,400
Speaker 1: see that this offseason. Let's just play it out like

739
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:35,960
Speaker 1: you find the Browns and listen to Browns fans. He's

740
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:38,640
Speaker 1: the best quarterback you've had in forever, but you've had

741
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:41,439
Speaker 1: shitty quarterbacks the bars low. Why why don't just let's

742
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:43,600
Speaker 1: playoff these next couple of years? Can we win a

743
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 1: playoff game? Can we keep getting to the playoffs? This

744
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 1: is a one year thing. Josh Allen, who's the most

745
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:53,880
Speaker 1: like once some playoff games? This year? Lamar's right, only

746
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 1: one one. He just won two playoff games, got to

747
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:58,320
Speaker 1: the a f C Championship. Can we do it again?

748
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:01,280
Speaker 1: Because that's the goal, right to be in the mix

749
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 1: every year. That's why teams never felt bad about Peyton

750
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 1: Manning Pete Roethlisberger obviously, Brady even Rogers like you're always

751
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:11,439
Speaker 1: in the mix, Sam with Russell am I always gonna

752
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:12,920
Speaker 1: be in then. And part of that your coach, part

753
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 1: of that your general manager, that there's more to football

754
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:17,280
Speaker 1: than just the one player, even though the one player

755
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:19,960
Speaker 1: is the most important in the highest paid. But I

756
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:21,759
Speaker 1: give Jerry Jones credit on this one. I give the

757
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 1: Cowboys a lot of credit because you can't shoot on

758
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:27,960
Speaker 1: them for having this Dak Prescott situation not resolved, because

759
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 1: if they would have followed the other two teams, you know,

760
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:33,959
Speaker 1: we would be saying similar things like what's he gonna

761
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:36,279
Speaker 1: look like coming off the injuries? Getting paid huge money,

762
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 1: their salary cap took a big hit like that. They

763
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 1: played it out year by year. They're they're leasing, they're renting.

764
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 1: If he if they determined he's worth to buy, if

765
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:49,800
Speaker 1: he gets this season takes him to the NFC championship,

766
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:52,279
Speaker 1: like I said, a place they have in been in

767
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:55,880
Speaker 1: twenty five years, then you pay him. But if you

768
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:59,879
Speaker 1: go eight and eight again, like I'm sorry, audios. Oh,

769
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:03,799
Speaker 1: let's just fly around the NFL and let's start with

770
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:06,759
Speaker 1: the Jacksonville Jaguars, And I'm someone who's talked a lot

771
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 1: of shit about Urban Meyer, never once as a coach, though,

772
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 1: I think he's elite. I think he's savings equal. I

773
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:16,799
Speaker 1: think he's arguably top two or three college football coach

774
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 1: of all time. He dominates as a coach. My issue

775
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 1: with him was always the moral high horse stuff, getting

776
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 1: on a soapbox when it's like, Bro, you got a

777
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:29,760
Speaker 1: team full of drug users, a Florida double homicides happening

778
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:32,439
Speaker 1: on your watch. You go to Ohio State, you got

779
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 1: a coach who's hitting his wife, Like, let's just and

780
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 1: I get as part of the college thing. But Urban

781
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:40,840
Speaker 1: stick with that stuff, getting on a soapbox telling you

782
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:43,279
Speaker 1: how to live, like, bro, just just figure your own

783
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:46,279
Speaker 1: house out right, worry about your own staff, in your

784
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:49,920
Speaker 1: own players. Stop preaching to the world here. And it

785
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 1: always made me feel very uncomfortable. Now in the pros,

786
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:55,799
Speaker 1: you don't have to do that. You know why, no

787
00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:59,040
Speaker 1: one cares. We're not teaching life lessons. We're trying to

788
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:02,280
Speaker 1: win football games, make money. That's why I love pro football.

789
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 1: College you're trying to do that too, But you gotta

790
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:08,840
Speaker 1: incorporate some of the bs, and Urban's king at that.

791
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:11,839
Speaker 1: He's got a little political politician to him, right, he

792
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 1: can play that game. It's like Urban you know, you're

793
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 1: telling me about men of character and you've got a

794
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:20,359
Speaker 1: guy killed four people. He's playing for you. Like, let's

795
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 1: just check out the resume of some of the things

796
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 1: that happened of the guys at Florida, like Google the

797
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 1: dude his wide receiver coach at Ohio State. I mean,

798
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 1: we all know that deal. I don't even want to

799
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:32,239
Speaker 1: talk about it, but it's just that that to me

800
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 1: was like the element of Urban Meyer that was always like,

801
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:37,880
Speaker 1: even beside the sick and whether he was faking it

802
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:41,319
Speaker 1: or not, and he clearly had some issues healthwise, that

803
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 1: kind of took out a life of its own. My

804
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 1: main issue was just always this the kind of preaching

805
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:49,800
Speaker 1: to me when it's like, bro, I don't even believe

806
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 1: that you believe what you're saying. But he dominated on

807
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 1: the field, absolutely kicked ask and I think he's gonna

808
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:00,760
Speaker 1: kick ass. Might be strong, but I'll make a prediction.

809
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 1: I bet he wins ten games in the first two

810
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:04,760
Speaker 1: years of Jacksonville. I think he's that good of a coach.

811
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:08,840
Speaker 1: But he hired Chris Doyle the day the former strength

812
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 1: coach at Iowa who was fired from Iowa for you know,

813
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 1: using racial terminology, crossing the line, having a lot of

814
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:20,960
Speaker 1: issues with players over the years, and they fired him

815
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:22,920
Speaker 1: before the season even happened. They bought him out for

816
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 1: like he was making huge cash. And listen that there

817
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:28,600
Speaker 1: two sides to every story. Everyone can say their truth.

818
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 1: I don't know this guy, I don't even know the

819
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:35,799
Speaker 1: players that were saying the thing. But clearly the the

820
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 1: university and the stuff that was going on, they thought

821
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:41,399
Speaker 1: bad enough to remove this guy and fire him. Why

822
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 1: would Urban Meyer who's had issues maybe not specifically like this,

823
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 1: like that Chris Doyle had, but had issues that would

824
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:51,960
Speaker 1: fall under these categories of like guys he had to

825
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:55,360
Speaker 1: fire players getting in Trump just ship that just you'd

826
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:57,880
Speaker 1: want to avoid at all costs. Bring this guy in

827
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:01,480
Speaker 1: of all the of all the strength coaches you can

828
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 1: hire in the pros, you you could go to get

829
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 1: the and this guy might be the best rank coach

830
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:09,360
Speaker 1: in the country. Honestly, there's a decent chance, right Iowa

831
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:11,719
Speaker 1: consistently in the mix to win the Big ten when

832
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:15,480
Speaker 1: they're not getting five star recruits and they're just they're

833
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:19,000
Speaker 1: going to war and and beating teams like Wisconsin playing

834
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 1: with Ohio State, Michigan, Michigan. It's really impressive, It really is.

835
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:25,279
Speaker 1: And I bet this guy's eladed his job, Chris Doyle.

836
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:28,319
Speaker 1: Couldn't you hire the second best strand coach in the country? Like,

837
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 1: why do you need to bring any of this drama on? Now?

838
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:34,239
Speaker 1: Does it really matter Jacksonville, anyone paying attention beside like

839
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:40,719
Speaker 1: social media's probably not and ultimately doesn't matter. No, But

840
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:43,799
Speaker 1: I just I don't get it. I mean, he just

841
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 1: he can't help himself. He always just brings in some

842
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:50,879
Speaker 1: sort of like what are you doing? You don't like

843
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:54,160
Speaker 1: saving do that? It doesn't feel like Lincoln Riley does,

844
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:56,880
Speaker 1: Bob Stupid? What why is it? Why is it always urban?

845
00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 1: I just I don't get it, man, I really don't. Uh.

846
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:07,120
Speaker 1: There were some reports that Juju Smith Schuster John Clayton,

847
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 1: remember he used to scream at Sean Salisbury on ESPN.

848
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 1: I used to love that cold heart. Facts of course

849
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:15,880
Speaker 1: late the used to yell each other. He reported that

850
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:18,360
Speaker 1: the Raiders are gonna be interested in Juju Smith Schuster.

851
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 1: Now I don't know why the Raiders like John Gruden,

852
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 1: you do not need any offensive players sign defensive guys.

853
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 1: They just cut Terrell Williams, who actually is an interesting

854
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 1: free agent on the open market. He was injured, he

855
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:37,439
Speaker 1: battled some foot issues in Um two thousand nineteen, good

856
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 1: player from Chargers late round pick goes to the Raiders.

857
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:42,919
Speaker 1: Big money hasn't up and down too has nineteen because

858
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:45,799
Speaker 1: of injuries tears his I think Laborum this year missed

859
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:48,200
Speaker 1: the entire season. But he's a name to keep an

860
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:52,239
Speaker 1: eye on. Brandon Staley. I don't know who's talking to

861
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:55,520
Speaker 1: I saw it on Pro Football Talk. He said that, uh,

862
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:58,279
Speaker 1: he needs to get Justin Herbert in a comfort zone.

863
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 1: The more and more I think of what an incredible

864
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:05,239
Speaker 1: job for Brandon Staley in the sense of your at

865
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 1: John Carroll University in two thousand and sixteen. Five years later,

866
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:13,280
Speaker 1: you get the most talented roster of all the open jobs,

867
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 1: from small little school to position coach to one year

868
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 1: coordinator to coaching Justin Herbert, who just had the best

869
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:24,279
Speaker 1: statistical rookie season the history of the league. That's a

870
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:26,319
Speaker 1: that's incredible, and he's right. They gotta they don't have

871
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:29,200
Speaker 1: need to find a comfort zone for Herbert. They need

872
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:32,040
Speaker 1: to put Herbert in positions to keep doing what he's doing.

873
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:35,319
Speaker 1: Whatever worked well last year, carry that over and keep

874
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:39,239
Speaker 1: on rolling. You were gifted. Most new coaches go to

875
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:42,920
Speaker 1: places like Atlanta where it's like they don't even want

876
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:45,400
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan. Go to Detroit where you gotta take on

877
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:47,759
Speaker 1: Jared Goff because Stafford wants that. I guess you didn't

878
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:50,479
Speaker 1: have to do that, you. I mean, Jacksonville is unique.

879
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:53,080
Speaker 1: They're getting Trevor Lawrence. But a lot of these jobs

880
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:55,799
Speaker 1: right Sala, It's like, you're gonna trade Sam Darnoad, We're

881
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:57,400
Speaker 1: gonna draft a guy you just there's a lot of

882
00:45:57,480 --> 00:46:00,239
Speaker 1: unknown at quarterback. This guy gets Justin Herbert, who's on

883
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 1: a rookie contractor's already good. Like it's it's an incredible

884
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 1: opportunity for Brandon's Daley and their team to be good.

885
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 1: Orlando Brown of the Baltimore Ravens. I was watching the game.

886
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 1: I can't remember was it against the Steelers, maybe the Browns.

887
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:21,000
Speaker 1: I just vividly remember being on my couch watching the

888
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:25,400
Speaker 1: raven game and Ronnie Stanley went down, and I think,

889
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:30,480
Speaker 1: if if memory serves me correct, that Friday might have

890
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 1: been a week before, but I think it might have

891
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:36,400
Speaker 1: been that week he had shot. He had signed one

892
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:38,080
Speaker 1: of the biggest contracts in the history of the league

893
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 1: for a tackle, got like huge money guaranteed. Then yeah,

894
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:45,920
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure it was Friday, and then Sunday shatters

895
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:48,560
Speaker 1: his leg ankle broke. It was awful. I was like,

896
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:51,320
Speaker 1: oh my god, he got rolled up on your classic

897
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:53,960
Speaker 1: offensive lineman. What He's out for the year. So they

898
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:56,319
Speaker 1: take Orlando Brown, who's the right tackle, and they moved

899
00:46:56,360 --> 00:47:00,680
Speaker 1: him over to left. Obviously the Ravens had success. And

900
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 1: he starts thinking, I don't want to move back to

901
00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:06,319
Speaker 1: right tackle because the Ravens paid Ronnie Stanley all that money,

902
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:09,320
Speaker 1: He's gonna be there left tackle. Orlando Brown goes, I

903
00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:11,360
Speaker 1: want to be a left tackle because I want to

904
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:13,840
Speaker 1: make I'm going into my last year of my rookie contract.

905
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:16,759
Speaker 1: I want to make Ronnie Stanley money or have the

906
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 1: opportunity to prove that I'm worth Ronnie Stanley money. Because

907
00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:22,600
Speaker 1: even if I'm a dominant right tackle player. I think

908
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:24,840
Speaker 1: I saw McAfee say it the other day, it's you

909
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 1: make five million dollars less at the peak. So I

910
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:32,400
Speaker 1: don't blame Orlando Brown. I'd say, fuck you. I'm playing

911
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:35,440
Speaker 1: a lot, this team game, all that bullshit. Yeah, this

912
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:38,920
Speaker 1: this this business. We let me play left tackle, move

913
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:42,640
Speaker 1: Ronie Stanley to right. Let me get paid. If I'm

914
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:45,800
Speaker 1: Orlando Brown, I do not back down. I'm a left tackle.

915
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:48,520
Speaker 1: Now I'd have to I need a text around, like

916
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 1: how good of a left tackle he is? But clearly,

917
00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 1: I mean they functioned just fine. I didn't think Orlando

918
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 1: Brown was gonna be that good in the NFL, but

919
00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:59,279
Speaker 1: he's He's actually been much better than I thought. He

920
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:01,760
Speaker 1: has a point. If you want to get paid, remember

921
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:04,080
Speaker 1: Jimmy Graham, I want to get paid as a wide receiver,

922
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:06,480
Speaker 1: not as a tight end. He was onto something. You

923
00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:08,239
Speaker 1: want to get paid as a left tackle, not a

924
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:12,480
Speaker 1: right tackle. You'd much rather get paid as a corner

925
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:14,960
Speaker 1: than a safety. There are certain things in the NFL

926
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:19,719
Speaker 1: that have huge financial implications. Someone's getting that money might

927
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:25,760
Speaker 1: as well be you. Trevor Lawrence having a pro day. Now,

928
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:29,840
Speaker 1: let me just say this, part of going to a

929
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 1: pro day as a scout, as a GM or whatever

930
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:36,560
Speaker 1: is not as much for a top guy about the football,

931
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:40,360
Speaker 1: watching a guy move, throwing the ball, running whatever the

932
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:43,400
Speaker 1: position is a lot of it is if you're urban Meyer,

933
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:47,720
Speaker 1: you're going to meet him and hang out and spend

934
00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:51,600
Speaker 1: some time with him. But like you do, the football

935
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:53,439
Speaker 1: part is cool. You know, you could like to see

936
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 1: the guy around his peers. And it's a big deal

937
00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 1: for the best player at a pro day whatever that

938
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:02,879
Speaker 1: program m is. Like if it's Alabama, you know their

939
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:06,160
Speaker 1: best prospects like Waddle or Smith, right, But that helps

940
00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:08,640
Speaker 1: all the second, third, fourth round guys. That guy works out.

941
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:11,839
Speaker 1: It forces all the scouts to come and watch maybe

942
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:15,400
Speaker 1: a fifth, six, seven undrafted free agent. So I understand

943
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:19,040
Speaker 1: participating in it, but like, is there any point for

944
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:22,440
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence to throw? He's going number one overall. I

945
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:25,040
Speaker 1: get He's Clemson, means a lot to him. Go support

946
00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:27,640
Speaker 1: the program, Go support your guys. You do not need

947
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:30,480
Speaker 1: to put on some clinic or whatever. You could argue

948
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:33,839
Speaker 1: I wouldn't throw if I was in what's the point,

949
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:37,640
Speaker 1: I get, you gotta compete or whatever. We've done enough,

950
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 1: like I'm going one. I just it's honestly, it's kind

951
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:45,000
Speaker 1: of stupid, you know, it really is. He does not

952
00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 1: need to participate in a pro day, Okay, in the

953
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:53,360
Speaker 1: last story, and it's I mean, it's an uplifter Taylor Heinekey,

954
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:57,880
Speaker 1: who came out of nowhere completely honest, didn't know anything

955
00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:01,680
Speaker 1: about him. It shows, well, one, this guy was good.

956
00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:03,960
Speaker 1: He threw for three yards in that game, a couple

957
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:08,520
Speaker 1: of touchdowns, was running around, looked awesome. He was a very,

958
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:12,240
Speaker 1: very enjoyable player to watch on that game against Tom Brady,

959
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:15,799
Speaker 1: a lot of people watching. You know the key in

960
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:19,480
Speaker 1: life if you don't own the company, have the boss

961
00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:24,000
Speaker 1: like you, you know who clearly likes this guy, Ron Rivera.

962
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:27,839
Speaker 1: Now he got eight point seven five million, only five

963
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:31,400
Speaker 1: k of it is guaranteed. I don't know about you,

964
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:35,719
Speaker 1: like nice little chunk of change you get guaranteed he's

965
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:38,720
Speaker 1: gonna make the team and be the backup. He should

966
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:43,160
Speaker 1: be able to bank millions of dollars now. He's definitely talented.

967
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:46,120
Speaker 1: And if he had thrown for ten yards in that

968
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:48,960
Speaker 1: game and got overwhelmed and looked like shit, is he

969
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:51,279
Speaker 1: getting this contract? Of course not so he earned it

970
00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:55,520
Speaker 1: with his play in a playoff game. But like I

971
00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:57,839
Speaker 1: think a big element of this is Ron likes the guy.

972
00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:00,960
Speaker 1: They trust him, they like him in the building, and

973
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:04,799
Speaker 1: he got paid. It's pretty incredible. Taylor Heineke went from

974
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:09,520
Speaker 1: a nobody to a potential millionaire pretty quickly. Amazing what

975
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:12,360
Speaker 1: happens when you play well against Tom Brady in the

976
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:17,160
Speaker 1: playoff game. It's very, very lucrative to your bank account. Okay,

977
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:19,280
Speaker 1: let's dive into this little thing we call the middle

978
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:22,200
Speaker 1: Cough mail bag. But before we do that, leave a

979
00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:25,799
Speaker 1: review three and Out Podcasts. Everyone that has greatly appreciate it.

980
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:28,279
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Speaker 1: Leave a review. That is a key two podcasters economic survival.

982
00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:38,360
Speaker 1: I was part of the pump and dump, you know,

983
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:41,240
Speaker 1: I I think obviously I don't know if I've mentioned

984
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:45,799
Speaker 1: this specific stock, til Ray, which I bought for like

985
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:49,280
Speaker 1: six dollars. I started buying it when it was like five.

986
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:51,560
Speaker 1: I bought it up to like seven. I owned like

987
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:55,759
Speaker 1: twenty dollars at at a little under seven dollars, and

988
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:57,880
Speaker 1: it was steadily growing just because you guys know, I

989
00:51:57,880 --> 00:52:02,279
Speaker 1: believe in the marijuana sector. I'm on weed long term.

990
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:05,359
Speaker 1: Then my Reddit people, which they're not my people, they

991
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:09,480
Speaker 1: just exist, started pumping the stock. That thing. I mean,

992
00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:12,239
Speaker 1: I'm looking at my bank account going, god, this is

993
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:15,200
Speaker 1: what it probably feels like you playing the league making

994
00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:18,040
Speaker 1: six figures in like twenty four hours. I made it.

995
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:21,239
Speaker 1: Mama made it, but I but I was long for

996
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:24,200
Speaker 1: the ride like I wasn't. I wasn't trying to cash

997
00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:27,719
Speaker 1: out because I I was buying when I bought it low,

998
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:30,160
Speaker 1: like I was thinking five year plan, like it wasn't

999
00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:33,360
Speaker 1: day trade and being part of the pump and dump,

1000
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:36,640
Speaker 1: Reddit Trader short squeeze the suits. Let me tell you

1001
00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:41,160
Speaker 1: it's an incredible ride. It is an incredible ride because

1002
00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:44,040
Speaker 1: I wasn't planning on cashing out no matter what. But

1003
00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:46,560
Speaker 1: just you look at your bank account one day and

1004
00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:50,960
Speaker 1: it's going up like three in a three day stretch,

1005
00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:53,680
Speaker 1: and then you look and it goes all the way

1006
00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:57,120
Speaker 1: back the next day as it did on Thursday. I'm

1007
00:52:57,120 --> 00:53:00,200
Speaker 1: trying to lift today, I'm trying to do normal things

1008
00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:02,279
Speaker 1: throughout my day. It's hard to not look at the

1009
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:04,800
Speaker 1: ticker and go, oh my god, I just lost a

1010
00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:08,040
Speaker 1: lot of money. But it actually wasn't. You know, unless

1011
00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:09,560
Speaker 1: you take it out, it's not really your money. And

1012
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:11,239
Speaker 1: it was a long term place, so I wasn't living

1013
00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:14,800
Speaker 1: in dying but still part of the roller coaster ride.

1014
00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:19,600
Speaker 1: What an incredible high slash low and right now after

1015
00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:23,520
Speaker 1: it had let me bring up the ticker til Ray

1016
00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:31,680
Speaker 1: was minus forty nine point six eight percent. Pretty big low.

1017
00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:33,560
Speaker 1: Let me tell you. Okay, let's get it in the middle.

1018
00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:37,520
Speaker 1: Coff mail back at John Middlecoff found your pot through

1019
00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:41,440
Speaker 1: Colin and been listening for a while. Appreciate it. I

1020
00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:43,319
Speaker 1: just had a wild thought as I was driving home

1021
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:46,040
Speaker 1: from work that maybe you can answer. I have no

1022
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:49,040
Speaker 1: idea on the cap implications. I think, as we've learned

1023
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:52,440
Speaker 1: cap implications, they don't mean a goddamn thing something football

1024
00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:54,800
Speaker 1: people talk about a lot. It sucks to take a

1025
00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:56,319
Speaker 1: little bit hit, But if you want to take the hit,

1026
00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:58,560
Speaker 1: you can take the hit. Like it's just that simple.

1027
00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:00,480
Speaker 1: I think Goff tells us at all you can get

1028
00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:02,920
Speaker 1: out of Golf, you get out of WinCE. It's everything's

1029
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:06,600
Speaker 1: on the table. But with Russell Wilson acting like he

1030
00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:11,080
Speaker 1: is unhappy with Seattle, could they do a swap trade

1031
00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:14,480
Speaker 1: with Houston for to Shawn. If so, what would that

1032
00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:17,600
Speaker 1: look like? Listen, you can say what you want about

1033
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:20,160
Speaker 1: Jason lock and for and he's not always right. He

1034
00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:24,520
Speaker 1: had a pretty good idea. What if the Raiders traded

1035
00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:27,560
Speaker 1: for Russell Wilson? So the Raiders gave them all those

1036
00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:31,839
Speaker 1: first round picks because Seattle, remember they do not have

1037
00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:35,080
Speaker 1: ones or two right, they don't have a first round

1038
00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:37,279
Speaker 1: pick this year, next year because of Jamal Adams, they

1039
00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:40,439
Speaker 1: don't have a second round pick. Under no circumstances would

1040
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:43,839
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson agree to go to Houston. No one's gonna

1041
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:46,840
Speaker 1: They just fired their president today. That place is a

1042
00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:49,640
Speaker 1: dumpster fire. Russell Wilson has a no trade clause. He

1043
00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:52,600
Speaker 1: would not go there. But if you're Seattle, what if

1044
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:58,120
Speaker 1: you do this? You trade Russell to the Raiders for

1045
00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:02,240
Speaker 1: whatever three ones, and Derek you take those three ones,

1046
00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:04,840
Speaker 1: and then you trade Derek, let's say, to the Bearers

1047
00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:07,840
Speaker 1: or whatever for like another one. Maybe get like a

1048
00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:10,279
Speaker 1: one in the three because as we've heard, Derek cars

1049
00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:13,600
Speaker 1: a lot of value out there. I agree. Does then

1050
00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:16,279
Speaker 1: you packaged all those and you go get de Shaun

1051
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:20,120
Speaker 1: Watson because it picks you don't have anyway. It's not

1052
00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:24,640
Speaker 1: that crazy. I gotta give credit to Guy Habramham. He

1053
00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:26,839
Speaker 1: had that idea. Actually, we were talking the other day.

1054
00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:29,600
Speaker 1: We had Kyle us check up nine or fullback on

1055
00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:31,839
Speaker 1: the pod if you want to hear him. He was great.

1056
00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:37,160
Speaker 1: He's cool, cool, fucking dude, Roger seems like he lacks

1057
00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:40,439
Speaker 1: the secret. Bill Simmons talks about in his basketball book.

1058
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:43,840
Speaker 1: His eye rolls, annoyed looks remind me of Jay Cutler.

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Speaker 1: Brady seems to have the secret. I think I think

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Speaker 1: that's fair to say takes less money, doesn't criticize teammates

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00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:54,799
Speaker 1: like Gronk, who was injured multiple surgeries, actually go back

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Speaker 1: to play with him. Amazing. Anyway, what other quarterbacks do

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Speaker 1: you think know and have the secret which equals winning?

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Speaker 1: Which teams consider this in talent evaluation? Example? Why would

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00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:13,239
Speaker 1: a team trade for wins? Then? Thoughts? Aloha from Mike.

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Speaker 1: You and Hawaiian got a freaking love Hawaii. Okay, let's

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Speaker 1: start with Brady. Brady is the secret, right Brady? Michael

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00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:28,240
Speaker 1: Jordan's magic, Johnson, Larry Bird. You know, I think Troy Aikman,

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Speaker 1: Joe Montana, uh now, whether they had it from birth,

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Speaker 1: whether they were taught it where there was a combination

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00:56:35,080 --> 00:56:36,880
Speaker 1: of they kind of had it and they got around

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Speaker 1: the right coach, whatever it exists. I can't blame Rogers

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Speaker 1: for everything he had. Mike McCarthy, who has now proven

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Speaker 1: I don't know if we think he's that good of

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Speaker 1: a coach this year, like did they lose because of

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers? I don't know, but I hear what you're saying.

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Speaker 1: I just have a hard time comparing Aaron Rodgers J Cutler,

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Speaker 1: like Aaron Rodgers a dominant player, a dominant m v

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Speaker 1: P player who's act playing well in the playoffs. Like I,

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Speaker 1: I just I have a hard time putting this year

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Speaker 1: on Rogers. But I hear what you're saying, like that

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Speaker 1: you wish he had a little bit more. I actually

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Speaker 1: think for the first time, at thirty seven years old,

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Speaker 1: kind of felt like Rogers had the secret this year

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00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:18,680
Speaker 1: getting along with his teammates, getting along with his coach,

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00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:21,080
Speaker 1: kind of bought in and they kicked ass. They just

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00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:23,800
Speaker 1: fell up short because they ran into Tom Brady. I

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00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:25,800
Speaker 1: think Carson Wentz. That's a big reason a lot of

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Speaker 1: people are probably down on him. Do you trust him?

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Speaker 1: I don't, you know, how could you? I think it's

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Speaker 1: hard in the evaluation process because you can be told

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Speaker 1: that like the Chiefs, they were probably told all these

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00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:41,760
Speaker 1: great things about Mahomes and they believed it and then

1094
00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:44,320
Speaker 1: they saw it on tape. But until they actually got him,

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00:57:44,360 --> 00:57:46,560
Speaker 1: then they go we got something and then until he

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Speaker 1: actually plays. Now they know like Mahomes has the secret.

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Speaker 1: Right if you saw the clip going viral of Chris

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00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:55,800
Speaker 1: Godwin on the sideline, just be like, how is this

1099
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Speaker 1: guy doing this? He's like doing those three sixties in

1100
00:57:58,320 --> 00:58:00,360
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, running for his life and making those throws.

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00:58:01,960 --> 00:58:04,320
Speaker 1: But like Russell Wilson, he's only won one super Bowl?

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Speaker 1: Does he have to not have the secret? You know what,

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00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:10,120
Speaker 1: how many players in the NFL really have the secret?

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Speaker 1: You know? Who? Does Brady just have all the secrets?

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Speaker 1: I don't know, um complicated question, but I think it's difficult.

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Speaker 1: I think you never truly know until you're around someone.

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00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:27,200
Speaker 1: I think you really get to know someone when you

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00:58:27,240 --> 00:58:29,800
Speaker 1: go through tough times, when you grind with them every day.

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00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:33,680
Speaker 1: It's like, I've never been married, but it's probably one

1110
00:58:33,680 --> 00:58:36,160
Speaker 1: thing to be dating and living together and then another

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00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:38,800
Speaker 1: thing to like get married, have kids, right, and really

1112
00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:41,800
Speaker 1: expand your life. You probably learned a lot about each

1113
00:58:41,800 --> 00:58:45,440
Speaker 1: other as kind of life progresses, just like I bet

1114
00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:47,600
Speaker 1: Belichick and Brady learned a lot about each other, like

1115
00:58:47,840 --> 00:58:53,600
Speaker 1: once they lost, remember they won three super Bowls, and

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00:58:53,600 --> 00:58:56,600
Speaker 1: then when Manning finally won his, they really had their

1117
00:58:56,600 --> 00:59:01,680
Speaker 1: first devastating loss. Remember when Peyton had that crazy comeback

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00:59:02,080 --> 00:59:04,200
Speaker 1: in Indie against the Patriots in the a f C

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00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:08,919
Speaker 1: Championship game. You know, it's probably to me that's that's

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Speaker 1: the best paid in game ever. I know he win

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, but remember the Super Bowl, he wasn't

1122
00:59:13,080 --> 00:59:15,000
Speaker 1: even that great. And then obviously in the second Super Bowl,

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Speaker 1: that game to me was Peyton Manning's finest moment. I

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00:59:18,520 --> 00:59:21,320
Speaker 1: remember Marlon Jackson had the game winning I was such

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00:59:21,360 --> 00:59:23,480
Speaker 1: a big Colts guy because I love Peyton Manning had

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00:59:23,480 --> 00:59:26,440
Speaker 1: the big game winning pick. And when I got hired

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00:59:26,440 --> 00:59:28,919
Speaker 1: in Philly, we had just signed Marlon Jackson. I was like, God,

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Speaker 1: this is I fucking made it. I've never he ended

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00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:34,280
Speaker 1: up tearing as Achilles and o t s, but it's

1130
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Speaker 1: really skinny legs. That was a big play by Marlon Jackson.

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Speaker 1: Though Michigan guy, is there a realistic chance of Mahomes

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Speaker 1: surpassing Brady as the goat? He's obviously still very young,

1133
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Speaker 1: but he needs to win at least five or six

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Speaker 1: more Super Bowls to be in that conversation. I think

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Speaker 1: it's kind of stupid even have the conversation, like, let's

1136
00:59:53,360 --> 00:59:56,400
Speaker 1: just enjoy Mahomes. He's a great player, He's an elite player.

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Speaker 1: He's are arguably the best player in the league. Brady's

1138
00:59:59,680 --> 01:00:04,160
Speaker 1: got se Evan Mahomes to match. Brady needs six more

1139
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Speaker 1: six and on his pace, he's He's been to two,

1140
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Speaker 1: he's only won one. He's on a fift pace. So

1141
01:00:11,400 --> 01:00:14,360
Speaker 1: to get Super six super Bowls like he's even if

1142
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Speaker 1: he made six more Super Bowls, he's not gonna win.

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Speaker 1: Everyone ship. Brady has been a ten, lost three. Even

1144
01:00:20,320 --> 01:00:22,400
Speaker 1: if he got to six, maybe he'd win three or four.

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Speaker 1: Let's say he won four or six, which would be

1146
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Speaker 1: a hell of a four or six would be great.

1147
01:00:27,200 --> 01:00:31,480
Speaker 1: He'd still be too shy. I think it's borderline impossible

1148
01:00:31,480 --> 01:00:34,320
Speaker 1: at this point, especially when you factor in the way

1149
01:00:34,360 --> 01:00:38,960
Speaker 1: Mahomes plays, he gets injured. It's tough when we talk

1150
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Speaker 1: about Tom Brady's greatness. How much do we factor in

1151
01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:46,040
Speaker 1: that his division wasn't much uh competitive in New England.

1152
01:00:46,880 --> 01:00:49,600
Speaker 1: I think he factored in to go why they had

1153
01:00:49,640 --> 01:00:54,520
Speaker 1: home playoff games every year. But we watched him play.

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Speaker 1: I watched him play Kansas City, I watched him play

1155
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Speaker 1: Payton Manning, I watched him play Rothisburger. I washed him

1156
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Speaker 1: play wilipp rovers. To make it to all those Super Bowls,

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Speaker 1: he had to go through all the best players and

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Speaker 1: all the best teams every year, every single year. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: it was it a little easier from the rattle off

1160
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Speaker 1: some wins in the regular season, for sure. But one

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Speaker 1: thing you can't argue is that that's six games and

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Speaker 1: I'm not let's not even talk playoffs how many times

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Speaker 1: over the twenty years span, and definitely the latter half

1164
01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:27,600
Speaker 1: of the decade, right the two thousand ten to two

1165
01:01:27,640 --> 01:01:31,880
Speaker 1: thousand nineteen or twenty, they were the biggest regular season game,

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Speaker 1: playing the Steelers, playing the Seattle playing whoever, the Eagles,

1167
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Speaker 1: the Giants, whoever the best team is the Cowboys, whoever

1168
01:01:39,480 --> 01:01:41,680
Speaker 1: is the good team that year in the NFC, playing

1169
01:01:41,720 --> 01:01:43,560
Speaker 1: the top teams in the a f C. And they

1170
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Speaker 1: were always winning. Always they dominated and Tom dominated in

1171
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Speaker 1: those regular season games, let alone the playoff games. So yeah,

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01:01:53,720 --> 01:01:55,440
Speaker 1: it helps a little bit, but I think that's such

1173
01:01:55,480 --> 01:01:58,720
Speaker 1: a small part of the story, it's not even funny.

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Speaker 1: But have a great weekend, hopefully it's not too cold

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Speaker 1: wherever you are, and uh see you next week. Pooce