1 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Therapy for Black Girls Podcast, a weekly 2 00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:19,320 Speaker 1: conversation about mental health, personal development, and all the small 3 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:22,480 Speaker 1: decisions we can make to become the best possible versions 4 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:26,599 Speaker 1: of ourselves. I'm your host, Dr Joy Hard and Bradford, 5 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 1: a licensed psychologist in Atlanta, Georgia. For more information or 6 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:35,560 Speaker 1: to find a therapist in your area, visit our website 7 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:39,280 Speaker 1: at Therapy for Black Girls dot com. While I hope 8 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:43,199 Speaker 1: you love listening to and learning from the podcast, it 9 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 1: is not meant to be a substitute for relationship with 10 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 1: a licensed mental health professional. Hey, y'all, thanks so much 11 00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 1: for joining me for session of the Therapy for Black 12 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 1: Girl's podcast. Today, we're spending some time in the inbox 13 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:06,759 Speaker 1: and I'm answering some of the questions you'll have sent 14 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 1: in about therapy. If you have any questions about therapy 15 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:14,039 Speaker 1: or situations you like some feedback on, please send them 16 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 1: into me at podcasts at Therapy for Black Girls dot com. 17 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 1: So let's jump right in. Question number one comes from Shannon, 18 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 1: and I've given all of these fake names. Shannon says, 19 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 1: I sometimes feel like my therapist gets frustrated with me. 20 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:32,040 Speaker 1: It only happens occasionally, but it makes me feel a 21 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:35,679 Speaker 1: little down? Is it in my head? What should I do? 22 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:40,120 Speaker 1: Thanks so much for your question, Shannon. In this situation 23 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 1: and in all situations, i'd encourage you to pay attention 24 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 1: to what you're feeling, even if it's not completely accurate. 25 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 1: When we're sensing that something is all or that something 26 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 1: just doesn't feel right, it's an indication that we need 27 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 1: to check in with this person about what is happening. So, 28 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 1: in this case, with your therapist, I wonder what you're 29 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 1: observing that is leading you to believe that they are frustrated. 30 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 1: Whatever it is, i'd encourage you to start the conversation 31 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 1: with whatever these observations are. So, for example, you might say, 32 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:14,360 Speaker 1: I've noticed that whenever I talk about my relationship with 33 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 1: my mom, you roll your eyes or whatever behavior you're observing, 34 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 1: and it leaves me feeling like I'm frustrating. You can 35 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 1: we talk about this, and then you and your therapist 36 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 1: can hopefully have a conversation about what's happening. If your 37 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 1: therapist is feeling frustrated, they can share this with you 38 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 1: and talk about what's frustrating them and what this might 39 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 1: mean in terms of your relationship, or if they're not 40 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:42,360 Speaker 1: feeling frustrated. They may be able to help you talk 41 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 1: through what you're experiencing in the relationship with them and 42 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 1: how it might be connected to experiences outside of the 43 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 1: therapy office. For example, maybe you came from a family 44 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 1: where what you had to say was quickly dismissed or invalidated, 45 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 1: and this now leaves you very sensitive to these feelings 46 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:01,680 Speaker 1: as an adult, so you may be sensing that others 47 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 1: are frustrated when this isn't really the case. So either way, 48 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 1: it's not in your head. But it is important for 49 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:11,920 Speaker 1: you to get some clarity about what's happening so that 50 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:15,360 Speaker 1: you can continue to feel safe in this relationship. It 51 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 1: may not seem like a big deal, as you stated 52 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 1: that it doesn't happen often, but anything that undermines your 53 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:24,920 Speaker 1: ability to be completely honest with your therapist makes therapy 54 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 1: less effective, and you deserve to have your concerns addressed. 55 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 1: So I hope that you can have this conversation with them. 56 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 1: I hope this helps. Question number two comes from April. 57 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 1: April says, my therapist shares too much about her own 58 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 1: experiences in therapy. One time, we spent thirty minutes talking 59 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 1: about her issues and she said on occasion that she 60 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 1: wants to live vicariously through me. What are your thoughts, Hey, April, 61 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 1: thanks so much for your question. So this is highly 62 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 1: inappropriate behavior and it sounds like it may be time 63 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 1: for you to find another therapist. I'm really, really sorry 64 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 1: this happened to you. So your therapy time should be 65 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 1: spent talking about you and your concerns, not your therapists. Now, 66 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 1: there may be times when your therapists may share something 67 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:18,920 Speaker 1: about themselves with the goal of strengthening the relationship, are 68 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:22,040 Speaker 1: helping you to feel less alone, or some other purpose 69 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 1: that is of benefit to you and the therapeutic relationship, 70 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:29,599 Speaker 1: But under no circumstance should thirty minutes of a session 71 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:34,160 Speaker 1: be spent with a therapist talking about themselves. Your therapists 72 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 1: also should not be invested in living vicariously through you. 73 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:40,920 Speaker 1: Of course, as your therapists were interested in what's happening 74 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 1: in your life in terms of how it impacts the 75 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:46,279 Speaker 1: concerns that you brought into therapy, but this shouldn't be 76 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 1: done in a voyeuristic way or in a way that 77 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:51,479 Speaker 1: makes you feel like we're living through you. So I 78 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 1: hope that you'll think more about this relationship and make 79 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:56,599 Speaker 1: a decision that is a really good fit for you. 80 00:04:57,240 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 1: And then question number three comes from Tanya. Tanya says, 81 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:04,720 Speaker 1: I've been in therapy for a while and recently your 82 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 1: friend suggested that I see a psychiatrist as well. How 83 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:11,159 Speaker 1: do I know if I need a psychiatrist? This is 84 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 1: a great question, Tanya, Thank you so much for sending 85 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 1: this in. I'm really glad to hear that you've been 86 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:18,360 Speaker 1: able to connect with the therapist. It sounds like you've 87 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 1: likely been doing some really good work there. And I'm 88 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:23,839 Speaker 1: not sure of the exact circumstances that led your friend 89 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 1: to make the suggestion of you seeing a psychiatrist, but 90 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 1: here's a little bit of information about working with a psychiatrist. Generally, 91 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 1: so one a client maybe has been working with a 92 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:37,839 Speaker 1: therapist and maybe seeing some improvement in their symptoms, but 93 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 1: the therapist suggests that may be working with a psychiatrist 94 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 1: and following a medication regimen as outlined by the psychiatrist 95 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 1: would be helpful in them improving. Even more so, the 96 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 1: therapist might suggest an appointment with a psychiatrist and maybe 97 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 1: even give you some referrals of psychiatrists they've worked with 98 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 1: In the past, so that's one of the situations that 99 00:05:56,960 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 1: generally happens. Or sometimes people decide to work with the 100 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 1: psychiatrist before even seeing a therapist, or instead of seeing 101 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 1: a therapist. So sometimes people have done some research about 102 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 1: what's going on with them and feel like talking with 103 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 1: the psychiatrist, who may be able to prescribe medication to 104 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 1: assist them with their concerns, might be a good fit. 105 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:19,279 Speaker 1: There's no rule that you have to see a therapist 106 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 1: before you see a psychiatrist or at all. If you 107 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:25,040 Speaker 1: think you're interested in trying medication and you want to 108 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 1: consult with the psychiatrist, you can just make an appointment 109 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 1: with them. The psychiatrist may prescribe medication and will schedule 110 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 1: you for a follow up visit, and they might also 111 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:37,799 Speaker 1: suggest that you see a therapist in addition to taking 112 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 1: any medication they prescribe. The important thing for you to 113 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:44,839 Speaker 1: remember here is that in each of these cases, you're 114 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 1: the one who gets to make the decisions about your treatment. 115 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:50,839 Speaker 1: If your therapist suggests a meeting with the psychiatrist and 116 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 1: you're not interested, you can decline. And if your psychiatrists 117 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:57,919 Speaker 1: suggests a therapist and you're not interested in that you 118 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 1: can decline that as well. It's up to you. I 119 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:05,600 Speaker 1: hope this helps Tanya. If you have a question about 120 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 1: therapy that you'd like to have answered on a future episode, 121 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 1: please remember to send it into me at podcast at 122 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 1: Therapy for Black Girls dot com and it just might 123 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 1: be answered on a future show. Remember that if you're 124 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 1: looking for a therapist in your area, be sure to 125 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 1: check out our therapist directory at Therapy for Black Girls 126 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 1: dot com slash directory. 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