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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast.

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Speaker 2: All right, second hour, Clay and Buck is rocking and

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Speaker 2: rolling right now. I've got a lot to talk to

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Speaker 2: you about this Tech hearing on Capitol Hill.

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Speaker 3: Some fireworks going on.

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Speaker 2: The DC political media very attuned to this one. This

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Speaker 2: is one of those rare moments of it seems a

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Speaker 2: bipartisan agreement. This is kind of hate Big Tech on

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Speaker 2: Capitol Hill day.

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Speaker 3: It is. It is the the uh what.

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Speaker 2: The three minutes hate, two minutes hate of Emmanuel Goldstee.

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to remember what was it? Was it nineteen

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Speaker 2: eighty four? Was it two minutes hat or three minutes eight?

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm talking about when they had to

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Speaker 2: all shout their anger and rage. I think the Big

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Speaker 2: Tech Hearing is going to result in not very much

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Speaker 2: other than soundbites. But let's talk about it. Let's get

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Speaker 2: into some of this. I mean, the big headline right

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Speaker 2: now Clay is lawmaker saying, quote, you have blood on

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Speaker 2: your hands to text CEOs. Mean, that's a pretty pretty

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Speaker 2: intense allegation. It's pretty severe. So let's see what they say.

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Speaker 3: Here we go. We have Mark Zuckerberg of Facebook.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, here he is saying that social media doesn't

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Speaker 2: Actually this is cut one harm teen health play it.

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Speaker 4: With so much of our lives spent on mobile devices

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Speaker 4: on teen mental health and well being. I take this

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Speaker 4: very seriously. Mental health is a complex issue, and the

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Speaker 4: existing body of scientific work has not shown a cause

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Speaker 4: a link between using social media and young people having

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Speaker 4: worse mental health outcomes. A recent National Academies of Science

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Speaker 4: report evaluated over three hundred studies and found that research

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Speaker 4: quote did not support the conclusion that social media causes

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Speaker 4: changes and adolescent mental health at the population level.

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Speaker 2: Quoting Okay Clay a few things. Just let me give

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Speaker 2: you a few of the headline takeaways here from CNN.

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Speaker 2: As we dive into this, Senator Lindsay Graham quote, the

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Speaker 2: dark side of social media products is too great to

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Speaker 2: live with. This is also from CNN. Senator Amy Klobash

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Speaker 2: are visibly upset while questioning CEOs uh and then they've

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Speaker 2: got a South Carolina lawmakers suing Instagram after his son

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Speaker 2: died by suicide. It goes through this at some at

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Speaker 2: some length. Okay, I got a few things here that

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Speaker 2: I want to drive and do you one is one

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Speaker 2: of these legislature legislators suggesting be done. And two can

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Speaker 2: we have a conversation about how tech platforms are largely

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Speaker 2: information dissemination vehicles the same way that you know, you

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Speaker 2: can use a phone and threaten someone's life and and

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Speaker 2: you could make them depressed, and you could, you know,

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Speaker 2: do psychological damag them. Social media can do the same thing.

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Speaker 2: So I think there has to be some specificity in

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Speaker 2: this conversation about what they want to do about it

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Speaker 2: and how.

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Speaker 3: They think there's a way forward.

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Speaker 5: I've spent a lot of time thinking about this again

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Speaker 5: as a as a parent, and in my own experience,

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Speaker 5: So Buck, I think my thesis in general is that

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Speaker 5: you're in mind generation, and you're basically my generation, even

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Speaker 5: of an all encompassing way. But we're old, but we

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Speaker 5: bridge generation because people who are older than us Let's

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Speaker 5: say you're listening to us right now and you're sixty

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Speaker 5: or older. The internet came along long after you were grown,

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Speaker 5: But then you understood as you became a teenager or

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Speaker 5: And I think that's so healthy because I see people

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Speaker 3: And I don't think it's again, I just come back

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Speaker 3: to it. It's not.

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Speaker 5: In my opinion, it is not a coincidence that mental

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Speaker 5: health fell off a cliff right as social media took root.

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Speaker 5: And part of it is not just social media, buck

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Speaker 5: it's the combination of social media and for those of

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Speaker 5: you watching on video. I'm holding up my phone right now.

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Speaker 5: It's social media and a computer in your pocket, because

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Speaker 5: it is I think impossible to recognize how much life

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Speaker 5: I mean, my favorite thing about my phone is probably uber, honestly,

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Speaker 3: You couldn't get a ride anywhere. So the idea that

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Speaker 5: A corner and I can get a car in five

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Speaker 5: the way that people define themselves based on the social

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Speaker 5: media universe, it's scary, I just and I think it's toxic.

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Speaker 5: I think social media is the cigarettes of our generation.

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Speaker 2: So here's what I what I want to know, And

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Speaker 2: there's so many parents listening.

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Speaker 3: If you have.

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Speaker 2: Strong thoughts on this issue, remember this is given what's

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Speaker 2: going on in the world. Congress or the Senate's holding

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Speaker 2: this hearing today on Capitol Hill. Mark Zuckerberg is there.

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Speaker 2: I mean, they're bringing in It's it's I'm trying to

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Speaker 2: find all the different like everybody, everybody. It's all the

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Speaker 2: big tech CEOs. It's the CEOs of Meta, TikTok, Snap,

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Speaker 2: and and here's what I What I see though, is well,

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Speaker 2: you don't want to ban social media, okay, because there's

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Speaker 2: actually a lot of good and a lot of companies

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: That's I think one part of it. And ultimately, I

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Speaker 3: Up to parents.

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Speaker 2: If you're talking about protecting kids when it comes to

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Speaker 2: social media, it's really up to parents for the most part.

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Speaker 2: I'm not saying there aren't things that maybe could be done.

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Speaker 2: are what should be done. Will I think that you know, Clay,

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Speaker 2: you said you let you don't let your son on

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Speaker 2: that seems reason that that seems about right. I don't

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Speaker 2: I definitely don't think ten year olds need to be

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Speaker 2: on social media. I think that people and I see

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Speaker 2: an observant fellow people use iPads as like stand in

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Speaker 2: babysitters instead of human beings. There's way too much of

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Speaker 2: as it's about parenting. I mean, some of these arguments

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Speaker 2: were made about television. They were certainly made about video games. Oh,

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Speaker 2: video games will rot your brain unless you're Elon Musk,

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Speaker 2: who stays up until four am playing video games many

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Speaker 2: is changing the world we live in, right, Like, you know,

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Speaker 2: it's all about balance, it's all about having boundaries and understanding,

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Speaker 2: and I think that on social media, for example. You know,

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Speaker 2: Parents should all have all the passwords and full access

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Speaker 2: to anyone under eighteen social media period, full stop.

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Speaker 2: So that's one thing, And I don't know how easy

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Speaker 2: every interaction, everything that's going on. That's a safety thing

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Speaker 2: I don't know what I mean, Like, what do you

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Speaker 2: think needs to be done right? Because right now Lindsey

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Speaker 3: It's oh, you.

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Speaker 2: Know, I'm making such a big deal of it. Okay,

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Speaker 2: lindsay what do you want to do?

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Speaker 5: So my yeah, my thought would be And I'm not

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Speaker 5: claiming that I'm some kind of an expert on this,

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Speaker 5: although I am active in media, I am active on

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Speaker 5: average parent would. We don't get phones for our kids

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Speaker 5: Some people will say that's too late. Fourteen seems to

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Speaker 3: To be able to get on to have a social

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Speaker 2: When I was like a freshman in high school, if

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Speaker 2: I would have failed algebra two, you know, I would

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Speaker 2: have done anything else, right, So we were lucky in

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Speaker 2: the sense that you didn't have these constant Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 3: The other part, it's not real social interaction. That's the problem.

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Speaker 2: It is in the sense that you're talking to people,

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Speaker 2: but it's not in the sense that real human beings

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and even remember the telephone, It was a big deal.

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Speaker 5: reacted with self doubt, you're growing, you're changing. Instagram in particular,

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Speaker 5: to me, so fake. It is everybody's best photo that

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Speaker 5: You're always snapchatting, you're always on group text, you're always interacting.

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Speaker 2: You think about the pressure to create what is effectively

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Speaker 3: And we're all.

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Speaker 2: Anyone who's using social media. Some of our audience isn't

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Speaker 2: They're like, yeah, I don't mess with any of that stuff.

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Speaker 5: But you're the people who are not smoking, you know

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Speaker 2: I think that this is it's just a bigger conversation

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Speaker 3: The people who say repealed section two thirty.

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Speaker 2: The problem is with this is if if you think

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Speaker 2: So it's not as easy as just repealing section two thirty.

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Speaker 3: I mean, he is more sophisticated and native to the space.

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Speaker 5: So even if you are this is where I would say, Buck,

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Speaker 5: I think it's the most challenging single part of parenting

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Speaker 3: Let's take some calls on it. Yeah, for sure.

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Speaker 5: And I want to tell you guys, right, what's another

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Speaker 3: Appreciate all of you.

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Speaker 5: A lot of people hopping in right now wanting to react.

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Speaker 5: Heather in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. You've got a seventeen year old

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Speaker 7: Yeah, unfortunately, just two weeks ago she was caught up

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Speaker 7: She's never been in trouble lots in her life. And

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Speaker 7: we've tried to monitor social media the best we can,

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Speaker 7: but you said it best. I mean they're just mart,

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Speaker 7: I mean, we can only do so much from home.

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Speaker 5: Do you think your daughter would have gotten in trouble

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Speaker 6: I don't think so.

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Speaker 7: I mean this perpetuated because these children they video record

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Speaker 7: And this didn't exist when I was in high school.

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Speaker 7: I mean, sure there was the occasional fight, but it

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Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you for the call.

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Speaker 5: It didn't go viral, right if you saw a fight

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Speaker 3: Likes happening on a day to day basis.

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Speaker 5: I want to tell you about puer talk ironically enough

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Speaker 5: We're monitoring what he does on social media. Fourteen year

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Speaker 5: zero do it today. We're talking here about the hearings

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Speaker 5: on Capitol Hill. All the big tech CEOs are there.

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Speaker 2: Job, Clay. But it's it's a thing. It's a big thing.

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Speaker 2: And what's going on social media, so we want to

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Speaker 2: North Carolina, Europe. First, what's up Wesley.

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Speaker 8: Hey, Yes, I got a twelve year old daughter and

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Speaker 8: They're in every sport possible. I'm around hundreds and hundreds

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Speaker 6: How do you do that?

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Speaker 8: How do they not have a phone? I wish I

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Speaker 3: I wish Weslie.

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Speaker 5: I'm glad you brought this up because one of the

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Speaker 5: line at sixteen. I don't think that's a bad move.

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Speaker 5: We draw in the line at fourteen, you know, and

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Speaker 5: lot of kids bought ten year olds. Thank you for

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Speaker 5: the call, Wesley. It's not uncommon for ten and eleven

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Speaker 2: family members.

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Speaker 3: So that way, you know, there's actually.

439
00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:48,440
Speaker 2: A enhanced safety component, right, mom and dad can call

440
00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:50,320
Speaker 2: you. You can call mom and dad if you know your

441
00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:52,760
Speaker 2: your sister Sally is going to be picked up from school.

442
00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:56,480
Speaker 2: You know she can text you, but with very clear limitations.

443
00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:59,520
Speaker 2: I don't know how good they are about making these

444
00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:01,840
Speaker 2: kinds of programs for phones yet. I mean, I know,

445
00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:05,760
Speaker 2: like YouTube, you sign in and you know, like my

446
00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:09,720
Speaker 2: my little nephew watches these programs like trash Truck or something.

447
00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:11,879
Speaker 2: It's called their trash garag. I don't know there's a

448
00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:14,439
Speaker 2: I forget the day of the voint is like you

449
00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:16,720
Speaker 2: only can watch certain things on YouTube, which is a

450
00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:20,920
Speaker 2: good thing because he's three. But you know, I think

451
00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:24,280
Speaker 2: that those programs all are all important, and maybe that's

452
00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:27,200
Speaker 2: part of the conversation. I want to take Zoe and Wisconsin.

453
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Speaker 3: What's up?

454
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Speaker 9: Zoe eighteen year old and a twenty one year old.

455
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Speaker 9: So I'm a little later on this thing, and if

456
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Speaker 9: I had known what's going on with this, I would

457
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Speaker 9: have done it differently. But I want to say, I

458
00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:42,119
Speaker 9: think the problem I have had in the past with

459
00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:46,200
Speaker 9: changing this thing around is the parents don't support each other.

460
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Speaker 9: I don't want my kids getting phone called at two am,

461
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Speaker 9: so I had to put their phones in the kitchen.

462
00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:54,080
Speaker 9: But I you know, everyone else says they'll do the

463
00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:58,480
Speaker 9: same thing, but they don't, you know, So feeling kind

464
00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:00,719
Speaker 9: of lonely when you're the only one that's kind of

465
00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:04,600
Speaker 9: mandating stuff, you know, and parents say they want to

466
00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:06,960
Speaker 9: do it, but when it comes, you know, push comes

467
00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:09,840
Speaker 9: the shelves. I don't think they're pulling it. So you

468
00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:11,320
Speaker 9: can give them all the tools you want, but if

469
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Speaker 9: they're not going to use them.

470
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Speaker 3: Zoe, that's a that's a great point on parents.

471
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Speaker 5: The other thing is parents have bad habits with their

472
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Speaker 5: cell phones too, right, So I mean it's hard.

473
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Speaker 2: Conversation to be had. There no cell phones at the

474
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Speaker 2: dinner table. Everybody don't put them on the dinner table.

475
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Speaker 2: Don't pull them out at the dinner table. If you

476
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Speaker 2: need a little bowl to put your phone in, like

477
00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:35,520
Speaker 2: we used to do before we go into a skiff environment.

478
00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:38,200
Speaker 2: And you know, the government days not allowed.

479
00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:41,800
Speaker 5: The apple doesn't far fall far from the tree often

480
00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:45,359
Speaker 5: so parents, you know, sometimes you've got to reflect upon

481
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Speaker 5: your own phone usage.

482
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Speaker 3: I remember, Buck, it was funny.

483
00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:54,520
Speaker 5: I was I was recently down at the beach and

484
00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:56,480
Speaker 5: a dad was outside with a couple of it.

485
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Speaker 3: I just happened to overhear him.

486
00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:01,199
Speaker 5: He was outside with a couple of his kids and

487
00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:03,560
Speaker 5: his wife was shopping in a store, and he tried

488
00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:06,480
Speaker 5: to call her and she didn't answer, and you know,

489
00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:08,639
Speaker 5: and then he hung up, and he's like, he's just

490
00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:12,880
Speaker 5: talking to himself. He's like, thirty seconds after anybody posts

491
00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:15,720
Speaker 5: on Instagram, she's got a reaction to it. Doesn't ever

492
00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:18,359
Speaker 5: pick up her phone when it rings anymore, right like,

493
00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:23,720
Speaker 5: And so the usage of phones has moved very often

494
00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:25,840
Speaker 5: from it used to be like you call somebody, I

495
00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:29,000
Speaker 5: don't know about you, Buck. If somebody leaves me a voicemail,

496
00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:32,600
Speaker 5: now I'm actually unhappy that they left. I'm like just

497
00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:34,520
Speaker 5: sitting like, why are you going to make me go

498
00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:38,240
Speaker 5: in and listen to a voicemail. Just text me right, like,

499
00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:40,920
Speaker 5: give me two sentences on what you need. I don't

500
00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:43,199
Speaker 5: remember the last time I left a voicemail. But it's

501
00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:45,240
Speaker 5: funny about the way it used to be they used

502
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Speaker 5: because it's gone primarily from a place where you would

503
00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:51,680
Speaker 5: call to somewhere where you're going to be primarily acting

504
00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:52,440
Speaker 5: on social media.

505
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Speaker 3: I tell you her a large percentage.

506
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Speaker 2: I generally, I try to be better about this. I'm

507
00:24:57,359 --> 00:24:59,639
Speaker 2: generally a little annoyed when a phone number calls me

508
00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:01,800
Speaker 2: that I don't don't know. Oh yeah, now, now that

509
00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:04,240
Speaker 2: can obviously change if it's you know, if somebody I

510
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:05,760
Speaker 2: want to hear from and they're calling me from a

511
00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:08,600
Speaker 2: new number or something, fine, But generally, if I see

512
00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:11,359
Speaker 2: a number that I don't know, my reaction as I'm

513
00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:14,000
Speaker 2: picking up the phone is this better be good? Like

514
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:15,920
Speaker 2: that's kind of my mentality. I think it's better be

515
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:17,639
Speaker 2: somebody I want to talk to. I don't if the

516
00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:19,520
Speaker 2: if a phone number pops up on my screen that

517
00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:21,280
Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean, I almost never answer me

518
00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:23,320
Speaker 2: the way. You know we're talking about about kids in tech.

519
00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:27,879
Speaker 2: By the way, Yeah, a couple things and people you know,

520
00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:30,080
Speaker 2: and look, it's tough. I'll say, for example, I wish

521
00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:32,560
Speaker 2: I could say that I no phone for me at

522
00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:34,840
Speaker 2: all an hour before bedtime, and the blue light and

523
00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:38,760
Speaker 2: all that stuff. I'm not disciplined enough about that. But

524
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:41,760
Speaker 2: phones at the dinner table absolutely not.

525
00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:42,880
Speaker 3: Don't.

526
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Speaker 2: Don't put them on, you know, when you're having dinner

527
00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:47,000
Speaker 2: as a family, and people say, oh, well, I'm not

528
00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:48,800
Speaker 2: saying you can't have it so that you can hear it.

529
00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:50,640
Speaker 2: If it's nearby and someone has to call you. There's

530
00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:52,800
Speaker 2: always the possibility of some kind of emergency or something.

531
00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:54,800
Speaker 2: But I see this thing where people will sit down

532
00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:56,679
Speaker 2: and they'll all put their phones out on the table,

533
00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:58,639
Speaker 2: and I'm like, why don't we just put an iPad

534
00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:01,280
Speaker 2: out there too, me put like a stereo system, and

535
00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:04,560
Speaker 2: you know, no no phones at the dinner table. That

536
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,280
Speaker 2: is one rule. Another thing, and this one gets me.

537
00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:09,760
Speaker 2: I did people get a little heat. We actually had

538
00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:13,800
Speaker 2: a TV in the bedroom when we moved into our

539
00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:16,199
Speaker 2: new home here in Miami, clay like it was mounted

540
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:18,280
Speaker 2: ready to go. Yep, we took it out and gave

541
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:21,159
Speaker 2: it away. Don't have a TV and you're have a

542
00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:23,400
Speaker 2: place where you watch TV. I love watching some good TV.

543
00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:23,879
Speaker 3: I get it.

544
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:25,560
Speaker 2: You know, have a family room, have a place where

545
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:29,000
Speaker 2: you watch TV, your study, whatever it is. TV in

546
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:33,280
Speaker 2: the bedroom, it's it's there's all kinds of research about

547
00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:36,920
Speaker 2: what it interferes with and how it can take over.

548
00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:39,480
Speaker 2: And I'm just telling this one gets a little tense

549
00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:41,440
Speaker 2: for some people. But you really don't want to have

550
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:44,199
Speaker 2: a TV set in your bedroom. Just saying I have

551
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:44,960
Speaker 2: a TV set.

552
00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:45,440
Speaker 3: In my bedroom.

553
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:47,680
Speaker 5: We didn't have one. It was already mounted on the wall.

554
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:49,440
Speaker 5: That's interesting. You took it off and we moved into

555
00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:51,800
Speaker 5: this house. We never had one before. And I've been

556
00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:52,399
Speaker 5: in this house now.

557
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:53,440
Speaker 3: For telling you, people.

558
00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:55,879
Speaker 2: Get very people feel good. They get very mad at

559
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:57,880
Speaker 2: me over this one. I grew up with a TV

560
00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:00,800
Speaker 2: in my bedroom as a kid, but you know, and

561
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:02,560
Speaker 2: my parents had a TV in their bedroom.

562
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Speaker 3: I'm I the more I've read about it, I'm very

563
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:06,240
Speaker 3: opposed to it.

564
00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:09,720
Speaker 2: You should have You should make the conscious decision that

565
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:11,760
Speaker 2: I want to go watch something now and I'm going

566
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,240
Speaker 2: to the place where we watch TV together, either alone

567
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:16,880
Speaker 2: or as a family or whatever. Otherwise you can get

568
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:18,600
Speaker 2: into the just flipping it on, flipping it on, flipping

569
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:20,879
Speaker 2: it on I'll tell you one thing. No TV in

570
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:24,840
Speaker 2: the bedroom. You read a lot more books, which helps

571
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:26,760
Speaker 2: with your sleep, helps with your blood breath.

572
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:29,200
Speaker 3: I know this is it's a good time. We don't

573
00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 3: have a TV sponsor. Samsung is not sponsoring. But I

574
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:32,879
Speaker 3: bet you.

575
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:35,640
Speaker 5: I bet the data reflects you have more amorous activity too.

576
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:40,560
Speaker 5: That would be my guests. In general, it percent does.

577
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:46,119
Speaker 5: It is interferes with marital relations everybody. People don't like

578
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:51,800
Speaker 5: to hear this. Read read the data, Dory in Phoenix,

579
00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:53,240
Speaker 5: what you got for us?

580
00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:57,240
Speaker 6: So I want to say I agree that social media

581
00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:00,520
Speaker 6: is awful. I think it's terrible, and I am thankful

582
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 6: that my daughter Jane never was on it. But I

583
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 6: think for us to trust those fake outragers in Washington

584
00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 6: who are doing it quote unquote for the children and

585
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:12,400
Speaker 6: pretending like they're going to do something when what will

586
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 6: ultimately happen, this looks like a gateway into censoring us

587
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,720
Speaker 6: because pretty soon it will be dangerous for them to care.

588
00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 6: Republicans say something, and I don't think we can trust

589
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:24,600
Speaker 6: them at all. I think parents, it's really hard that

590
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:25,879
Speaker 6: we need to do the hard storry.

591
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 2: Can I just jump into ory? I couldn't agree with

592
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:32,399
Speaker 2: you more. You nailed it. You know, I feel like

593
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:34,879
Speaker 2: what's his name in old school? But he says that

594
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:36,840
Speaker 2: was perfect, like he has nothing to add, you know,

595
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:38,240
Speaker 2: rage and cajun.

596
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:42,320
Speaker 3: I think you're James Carvel. Thank you. I think you're

597
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:45,920
Speaker 3: one hundred percent correct. And I think that I have

598
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:46,240
Speaker 3: a rule.

599
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:47,200
Speaker 2: I don't know if you used to listen to me

600
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 2: when I was doing solar radio, but I always say,

601
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:51,479
Speaker 2: never trust politicians when they say they're doing something for

602
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:54,480
Speaker 2: your safety or for your children, because they're almost always lying.

603
00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:55,640
Speaker 3: It's those are the.

604
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:58,920
Speaker 2: Two things that they will abuse as concepts to get

605
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:02,000
Speaker 2: away with stuff. And I think for this it's just

606
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 2: clay the fact that both so I do anything to

607
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:06,560
Speaker 2: add to Dori Ethodor.

608
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Speaker 5: I would just say to I think Dory made a

609
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:10,560
Speaker 5: great point. The thing I would say is the way

610
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:12,280
Speaker 5: I would look at it is take it outside of

611
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:15,720
Speaker 5: social media and take it outside of the Internet. I

612
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 5: just come back to this a time after time we

613
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:19,959
Speaker 5: decided for movies there should be R rated movies, there

614
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 5: should be PG thirteen movies PG right. There should be

615
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 5: age restrictions on social media apps that are actually applied

616
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:31,480
Speaker 5: in a way that are somewhat effective. Right, you shouldn't

617
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 5: be able to just like you can't go see an

618
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 5: X rated movie. But historically, before the Internet put pornography everywhere,

619
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:43,880
Speaker 5: every I guarantee you, every single heterosexual man listening to

620
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 5: us right now, tried to get a Playboy magazine when

621
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:51,120
Speaker 5: you were fourteen or fifteen years old. You tried to

622
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:53,840
Speaker 5: get your hands on a Playboy magazine to see pictures

623
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 5: of naked girls.

624
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:56,480
Speaker 3: You had to work at it. You might have come

625
00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:57,320
Speaker 3: up with a scheme.

626
00:29:57,640 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 5: You tried to pretend you were eighteen when you went

627
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 5: into a convenience store. I bet almost one hundred percent

628
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:05,880
Speaker 5: of boys that grew up into men that are listening

629
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:08,200
Speaker 5: to us right now who are around that age, put

630
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:12,120
Speaker 5: that effort in. There was a restriction on your ability

631
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:14,600
Speaker 5: to buy magazines, and everybody understood it.

632
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:16,640
Speaker 2: This is clay Like you know, my generation, we had

633
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:19,000
Speaker 2: to earn our glimpse of Playboy magazine, right, We had

634
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:21,240
Speaker 2: to go If you wanted to see a boob, you

635
00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:23,239
Speaker 2: had to put a lot of mental energy into it

636
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:23,840
Speaker 2: back in the day.

637
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 3: Now it's super easy.

638
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 5: But my point on it is just everybody understood that

639
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 5: you couldn't just be twelve years old and go buy

640
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 5: a Playboy magazine. And by the way, Playboy was tame

641
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 5: compared to some of the stuff that they sold on

642
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:40,240
Speaker 5: you know, a grocery store or even gas station magazine racts. Right,

643
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:44,760
Speaker 5: How have we created a world where suddenly any twelve

644
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:47,440
Speaker 5: year old on the planet buy and large, can go

645
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:51,240
Speaker 5: to any website with anything on it. You can believe

646
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:55,480
Speaker 5: in free speech and be anti censorship and also believe

647
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 5: that age limits are appropriate in terms of what kids

648
00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:00,080
Speaker 5: should be Those states.

649
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:02,960
Speaker 2: Are are doing that now with both verifying what gets

650
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 2: uploaded to the Internet, which is an important piece of this,

651
00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 2: as well as age verification for people who are going

652
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 2: to be trying to see certain content. And I know,

653
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 2: we haven't even had a conversation about how, you know,

654
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 2: online porn. I mean, there's so much to talk about

655
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 2: with how online pornography is really bad. But you know,

656
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:25,800
Speaker 2: even for adult males, you know, consenting adult adult males,

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Speaker 2: it's it's very bad for you. It's a very bad habit.

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Speaker 2: It's very bad for your psychology. But that's we don't

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Speaker 2: have a time to get into that right now. Maybe

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Speaker 2: I'm already waiting for people to yell at me over

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Speaker 2: the TV thing, so I won't tell them that they

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Speaker 2: should all give.

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Speaker 5: By the way, producer Ali says Buck, they don't even

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Speaker 5: have televisions in their house, so she's just one upping you.

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Speaker 2: She and Gerrard don't even have a television. I didn't

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Speaker 2: have a TV in my apartment, in my home from

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Speaker 2: two thousand and I want to say two thousand and

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Speaker 2: like twelve to twenty sixteen. I had about four years, right,

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Speaker 2: didn't have a TV, but you had an eye where

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Speaker 2: you could watch like I had a laptop where I

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Speaker 2: could watch some Netflix. But I did not have a

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Speaker 2: television for four years as an adult, and I read

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Speaker 2: so many It's true. I used to go to the

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Speaker 2: Strand bookstore like a mega nerd and get stacks of

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Speaker 2: books and actually read them. All right, well, we'll come

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Speaker 2: back into bookstore this Strand, by the way, that's such

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Speaker 2: a fun place.

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Speaker 3: I used to sell my used books to them and

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Speaker 3: then buy more used books. It was great.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, I want to make money. I don't

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Speaker 2: want to lose money. So unfortunately that means I'm going

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Speaker 2: to probably have to listen to Clay on this one.

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Speaker 2: Because the big game is coming up in Las Vegas,

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Speaker 2: and I was saying, I'll take the other side of

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Speaker 2: the prize pick that he's going to do. But no, no,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna ride on his coat tails because I actually

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Speaker 2: want to make sure that I'm winning here. There's no

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Speaker 2: better way than the Prize Pick app to get involved

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Speaker 2: with the Big Game and turn ten dollars into two

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Speaker 2: hundred and fifty prize picks.

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Speaker 3: Lets you do that. It's a lot of fun.

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Speaker 2: I'm using it now. It's super user friendly and easy.

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Speaker 2: You just select two or more players, pick more or

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Speaker 2: less on their projection, and place your entry. The easiest

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Speaker 2: pick you'll find right now in Prize Picks is if

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Speaker 2: Kansas City quarterback Patrick Mahomes throws from more than one

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Speaker 2: yard in the Big Game, you win on Prize Picks.

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Speaker 3: What is that really?

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Speaker 5: That more than one That is that is a giveaway

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Speaker 5: that Prize Picks is just giving everybody.

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Speaker 3: Because I even I am quite certain he will throw

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Speaker 3: for more than one yard.

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Speaker 5: I believe it would be I mean, he would basically

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Speaker 5: have to get knocked out of the game on the

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Speaker 5: first play of the game.

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Speaker 3: For him. I think I would throw. I think I

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Speaker 3: would throw for more than one yard.

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Speaker 2: I could probably do one of those, like shuffle passes

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Speaker 2: over to the side anyway, shovel passes, shuffle pass, shove

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Speaker 2: what is it a shovel pass?

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Speaker 3: Shovel pass? Right, Yeah, little underhand underhand pass on the field.

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Speaker 2: You're exactly not not the manliest pass, but that's how

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Speaker 2: I would do it anyway.

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Speaker 3: You get quick withdrawl's huge selection.

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Speaker 2: Prize Picks the only daily fantasy platform with injury insurance

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Speaker 2: as well. I'm using Prize Picks. Clay's using Prize Picks.

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Speaker 2: I'm winning lately too. I smoked it on tennis, by

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Speaker 2: the way. That's right, Clay. I thought you'd be proud

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Speaker 2: of me. When are you gonna give us your picks

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Speaker 2: for the Big Game.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna do it next week. I don't want to.

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Speaker 5: I'm teasing it in advance. I'll let you know what

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Speaker 5: my picks are going to be. Probably do it from

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Speaker 5: Super Bowl fifty seven, where I'm gonna be in Las

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Speaker 5: Vegas and all all of the stresses on Clay because

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Speaker 5: I'm going to do whatever he does on this one,

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Speaker 5: because he knows the big game better than me. Prize

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Speaker 5: Use code Buck when you do that's prize picks and

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Speaker 5: use code Buck.

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Speaker 1: Need a break from follazis a little comedy to counter

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Speaker 1: the craziness. So The Sunday Hang a weekend podcast to

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Speaker 1: lighten things up a bit. Find it in the Clay

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Speaker 1: and Buck podcast feed on the iHeartRadio app or wherever

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Speaker 1: you get your podcasts.

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Speaker 5: Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck secon show top of

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Speaker 5: the next hour. By the way, the Attorney General of

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Speaker 5: the State of Tennessee, Jonathan Scermetti, a really fascinating lawsuit

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Speaker 5: file this morning in the Eastern District of Tennessee, Virginia

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Speaker 5: and Tennessee together basically going after the NCAA's ability to

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Speaker 5: control college.

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Speaker 3: Aff x, name, image and likeness.

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Speaker 5: This is a big, monster, potentially lawsuit with a lot

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Speaker 5: of different tentacles. We're going to talk with them about that.

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Speaker 5: I think many of you are going to enter be

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Speaker 5: entertained by that, but I wanted to We got a

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Speaker 5: couple more calls in here that I wanted to hit

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Speaker 5: before we finished. Nick in West Michigan, Nick, what you

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Speaker 5: got for us?

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Speaker 6: Verizon has a watch for kids called the Gizmondo. Like

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Speaker 6: I think they're up to the.

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Speaker 3: Third version of it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the parents control it all through an app.

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Speaker 8: And as like fifteen people that they.

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Speaker 3: Are allowed to call or keeps. I've heard about this

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Speaker 3: pre programmed text and that's what we got for our kid.

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Speaker 2: So they call us, you know when they get home

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Speaker 2: from school or get to their friend's house or whatever they.

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Speaker 3: Need to out track them.

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Speaker 7: That.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think is the kind of thing that I think,

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Speaker 2: really really, you know, makes things simpler and is the

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Speaker 2: this is the way forward.

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Speaker 3: I think.

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Speaker 5: Also, Buck, I think the flip phone is going to

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Speaker 5: start to come back more and some of you out

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Speaker 5: there are going to think I'm crazy.

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Speaker 3: I mean, like an.

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Speaker 5: Old school like it's just a phone, right, like that,

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Speaker 5: if you want to just give your kids just a phone.

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Speaker 2: Do you remember when Morpheus in the original Matrix had

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Speaker 2: that Motorola phone with a little piece that came dow

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Speaker 2: ass and how cool that was.

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Speaker 3: I would do a throwback to that Morpheus phone. That

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Speaker 3: thing was badass.

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Speaker 5: I think, you know, most people initially got cell phones

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Speaker 5: for like I remember I had that big Zach Morris

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Speaker 5: block phone when I was sixteen, riding for the airstrike phone. Yeah, yes,

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Speaker 5: I think that's when people initially got them. I think

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Speaker 5: the throwback to the flip phone would make a lot

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Speaker 5: of sense for fifteen and sixteen year olds out there.

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Speaker 3: Honestly,