1 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 1: Hello everyone, and welcome back to The Hammer Territory Podcast, 2 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 1: Episode two six' to. ONE i am your, Host Sprad, 3 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 1: rowland coming to you on A tuesday evening AND i 4 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:33,159 Speaker 1: have joined on today's podcast for the second. Time and 5 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 1: what forty eight hours something like that By Steven, Tolbert, 6 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 1: steven what's going? 7 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 2: On what's? 8 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:38,559 Speaker 3: Up? 9 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:41,520 Speaker 4: Buddy it's been an eventful forty eight hours. Too we've 10 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 4: had quite a news quite a bit of news drop 11 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 4: For september one of a really bad. Team when we 12 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 4: talked On, sunday you AND i were not expecting to 13 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 4: have to do an emergency. Show, obviously you And sean 14 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 4: did the emergency show On, monday and Then i've had 15 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 4: more roster stuff and, games so it has been an 16 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 4: EVENTFUL i actually give a shout out to The braves 17 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:06,960 Speaker 4: because they did us as solid by giving us some 18 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 4: real content not only for right now but for the 19 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:12,960 Speaker 4: rest of the season With, kim something to track and talk. 20 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 4: About SO i appreciate the Early christmas present from the. 21 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:19,400 Speaker 1: Team, absolutely and you alluded to. It but in case 22 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:22,199 Speaker 1: we have new, listeners just want to plug. This Sean 23 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 1: coleman AND i did an emergency episode On, monday reacting 24 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 1: to The braves claiming has On kim surprisingly off Of, 25 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 1: waivers a guy that we've been talking about for a 26 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 1: long time on this episode on the show day after The, 27 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 1: winter when he was a potential free as. Target that 28 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 1: was a prominent, thing and it was a surprise came 29 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 1: out of. Nowhere it also makes, sense as we will 30 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 1: talk about, more and we'll kind of talk about that 31 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 1: more today because he number one is with the. Team 32 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 1: he was, activated he, debuted he had two hits On, 33 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 1: tuesday all that, transpired and then later on the show 34 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 1: we'll kind of get into the more normal stuff going 35 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:58,919 Speaker 1: on with The. BRAVES a weird blown lead On monday 36 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 1: that we'll breeze. Through i'm sure a little bit of 37 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 1: look ahead to A rookie of The year potential showdown 38 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 1: On wednesday evening In. Chicago but first things, first EVEN 39 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:09,520 Speaker 1: i waited already a little bit On, kim SO i 40 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 1: will save my thoughts AND i will tee it up to. 41 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 1: You what was your? TAKE i, mean it was obviously 42 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 1: a big, surprise but given all the money that's in, 43 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 1: play the commitment that you have to have to hass On, 44 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 1: kim all those, things what was your, reaction AND i 45 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 1: think you have the benefit now of what thirty hours 46 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:27,119 Speaker 1: of a little bit of history on this thing to dive. 47 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 4: Into, yeah what A i, mean what a fascinating move 48 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:34,079 Speaker 4: when that popped across the wire. YESTERDAY i, mean it's 49 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 4: sent a shockwave THROUGH i mean obviously our podcast and our, 50 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:40,080 Speaker 4: dms BUT i mean a bunch of people THAT i 51 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 4: follow just out of. Nowhere and you, know this waiver 52 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 4: system is it's not revocable. Waivers it used to be 53 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 4: revocable waivers a long time. Ago it's a different waiver. 54 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 4: System we can get into all the manifestations of that 55 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 4: if you. Want BUT i love the. Player this is 56 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 4: the guy we talked about a lot in the OTHER i, 57 00:02:57,040 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 4: mean you'll remember Bad we talked about this guy a 58 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 4: million times in the offseason and as probably the most 59 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 4: likely in terms of how much money he was going to, 60 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:08,360 Speaker 4: command probably the most likely shortstop The braves could realistically go. 61 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 4: Get williadamez was never that attainable given the price tag 62 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 4: And Kim shoulder was gonna cause him to go for 63 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:18,799 Speaker 4: a quite a bit, cheaper and he did go for 64 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:20,079 Speaker 4: quite a bit. Cheaper he just didn't go to The. 65 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 4: Braves he went to The, rays and so it's a fascinating, 66 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 4: deal AND i really do like the players and above 67 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 4: average bat at, shortstop which just that alone is an 68 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 4: incredibly valuable player and above average bat at, shortstop a 69 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 4: good defensive. Shortstop The braves have not had that consistently 70 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 4: Since dansby, probably you, know more fairly To, orlando probably 71 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 4: that twenty three season was at that level at least 72 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 4: for half the, season but consistently they haven't had this 73 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 4: and probably four years or. So so it is massive 74 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 4: news at probably The braves' biggest positional. Need the contractual 75 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 4: stuff is What i've find most, fascinating to be honest with, 76 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 4: YOU i saw a lot of The my main takeaway 77 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 4: is going to be this BECAUSE i saw a lot of, 78 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 4: this AND i had a lot of people ask me this, 79 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 4: question and a lot of people say it's very much 80 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 4: like a one year, deal AND i want to be 81 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:17,360 Speaker 4: careful BECAUSE i. DON'T i don't think that's entirely. Accurate 82 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 4: And i've seen a lot of people say that when 83 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 4: you sign a player to a one year, deal like 84 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 4: The braves did With Josh, donaldson or The braves did 85 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 4: With Cole, hamblet The braves have done a bunch of. 86 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:31,720 Speaker 4: These you have full access to both the upside and the, 87 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:34,719 Speaker 4: downside like you have access to all the benefits that 88 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:38,279 Speaker 4: come with great, performance and you hold all the risk 89 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 4: that comes with bad. Performance that's a typical one year. 90 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 4: Deal when you have a player option Like kim, has 91 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 4: you don't have complete access to the upside because If 92 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 4: kim goes nuclear this, month If kim has a two 93 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 4: FIFTY wrc plus plays elite shortstop for the rest of the, 94 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:59,279 Speaker 4: month he could he could decline that player option and 95 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 4: go be a free and you lose him for twenty 96 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:04,360 Speaker 4: twenty six for nothing in. Return you get nothing out of. It, 97 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 4: however on the, downside if he tears that shoulder, again 98 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 4: if he gets hurt, again if he's bad, again or 99 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:12,719 Speaker 4: some combination of hurd and bad, again you're on the 100 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 4: hook for all of that money because he's gonna opt. 101 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 4: In you're gonna pay him sixteen, million and whether he's 102 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 4: good or, not whether he's on the field or, not 103 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 4: you're on the. Hook so it is substantially riskier than 104 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:25,480 Speaker 4: just a standard one year deal because you don't have 105 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 4: full access to the. Upside because if he goes, nuclear 106 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 4: you could lose, him but you have all the risk 107 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 4: of the. Downside and that's why The braves give out 108 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 4: one year deals a, lot but never give out player 109 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 4: options because they are substantially. Riskier AND i JUST i 110 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 4: saw a lot of like it's basically a one year. 111 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 4: DEAL i don't think that's. Accurate it's much riskier than 112 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:47,239 Speaker 4: a one year. Deal that being, said the shortstop market 113 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 4: is so dead and so hard to come. BY i understand. 114 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 4: THAT i understand the gamble they're, taking AND i THINK 115 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 4: i actually agree with, It but it is a. Gamble 116 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:58,840 Speaker 4: it is a risk that they don't typically take. 117 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 1: For, sure AND i, think you, know in typical. Fashion 118 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:04,720 Speaker 1: sean was a little, bit probably more positive THAN i, 119 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:07,039 Speaker 1: was BUT i like. IT i like it. Too we 120 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 1: did try to lay out the risk of it, all 121 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 1: because there is some and, yeah it could be a 122 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:14,160 Speaker 1: normal one year. Deal to your, point like it's if 123 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 1: this was done In. July if this was done In 124 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:20,479 Speaker 1: june versus On september, first there'd been even more risk 125 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:23,040 Speaker 1: on The brave, side because right now you're talking about 126 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 1: three and a half four, weeks right there isn't that 127 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:28,599 Speaker 1: long For kim to use your parlance go, nuclear because 128 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 1: you're right if he goes. Nuclear but all the reporting 129 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 1: That i've seen AND i have my guard up right 130 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 1: now for. Sure you, know our Colleague Heed rosenthal and 131 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 1: others have kind of everyone's kind of baking in like 132 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 1: he's likely to pick up the option. 133 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 4: That is one hundred percent the most likely. 134 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:48,159 Speaker 1: Outcoming we agree, there and also Given alex's record in the, 135 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:51,800 Speaker 1: PAST i think there's a chance that they also renegotiate 136 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 1: and sign him to a couple of, years maybe a 137 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:57,840 Speaker 1: two year deal that's for less than sixteen million, annually 138 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 1: but for more guaranteed money For Hassan, kim that's possible 139 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:05,280 Speaker 1: to there is. Flexibility BUT i firmly agree with. You 140 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 1: like a lot Of braves, FANS i think for good, 141 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 1: reason are not used to talking about player options Because 142 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 1: alex doesn't give him. Out it's they don't do this right, 143 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 1: Between we never never go because they don't do. THEM i, 144 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 1: mean And alex has said that it's like it's almost 145 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 1: a policy that they don't give them, out which is 146 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 1: why part of why it's so. Interesting BUT i think 147 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 1: it's all those things that you. Said it's the player 148 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 1: is an appealing skill. Set he can hit while also playing. 149 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 1: DEFENSE i know the popular name that everyone wants to 150 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 1: talk about all the time is But Boba, schett, right 151 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 1: he's the big name on the. Market he's not a 152 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 1: quality defensive. Shortstop he's he's a good. Hitter he's a 153 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 1: really interesting. Player but if you were to go do, 154 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 1: that they might maybe they would have considered. IT i 155 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 1: have no, idea but you are sacrificing. Defense if you're doing, 156 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 1: that you're going offense at that. Position, traditionally The braves 157 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 1: have really liked to have defense at, shortstop And kim 158 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 1: is not maybe the upside hitter That bashet, is but 159 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 1: his defense is can considerably better and it's. CHEAPER i, 160 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 1: mean The chets have really have a good. Season he's 161 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 1: going to be expensive and he's really the only other 162 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 1: guy boring. Trades AND i don't tell you, This, steven 163 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 1: but just For braves, fans like it's been proven now 164 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 1: for a couple of, years it's really hard to get. 165 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 1: Shortstops if you have a good, one you don't let 166 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 1: them go until they're a free agent and they and 167 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 1: they outpace your. Market that's the only. Reason the only 168 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 1: time guys basically leave is if you're about to enter 169 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 1: a full rebuild or you're about to be priced. Out 170 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 1: like The. Braves Losing dansby was because he hit the 171 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 1: market at a time when he could make a, lot a, 172 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 1: lot a, lot a lot of. Money, yeah like that's 173 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 1: the Only Willie donmas is the same. Thing he never 174 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:39,959 Speaker 1: Leaves milwaukee other than he priced himself out Of. Milwaukee, 175 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 1: yeah that's what you're talking about and The. BRAVES i 176 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 1: don't think The brays want to give out one hundred 177 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 1: and fifty million dollars in short. Stop they don't seem 178 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 1: to want to do. That so well we. 179 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 4: Are and usually when you're giving out one hundred and 180 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:54,319 Speaker 4: fifty million dollars for a, shortstop he's twenty nine thirty years, old. 181 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 1: Where dansby, WAS i think they probably would have Paid 182 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 1: dansby his his his AVERAGE a value was. Palatable it 183 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 1: was the length of the contract. 184 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 4: Exactly and, listen defense is a young man's. Game defense 185 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 4: does not typically age. Well so you GOT i, mean, 186 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 4: listen The, padres and this matters for The braves right. 187 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:14,559 Speaker 4: Now The padres Gave Xander bogarts like two hundred and 188 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 4: eighty three hundred million Dollars bogarts played shortstop exclusively for 189 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 4: The Red. Sox he signs this massive deal With San, 190 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:26,599 Speaker 4: diego And kim immediately supplants him at shortstop because his 191 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:31,080 Speaker 4: defense had fallen, Off like shortstop defense falls off fairly, 192 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 4: Quickly so you do have to be careful handing out 193 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 4: these long term free agent contracts that they, get AND i. 194 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 4: DO i do Think kim is the Like allen is 195 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 4: a good defensive shortstop you can't, Hit bashett is a 196 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 4: good hitter who can't really play. SHORTSTOP i do Think 197 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 4: kim is kind of that sweet spot where you're looking 198 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 4: for quality defense and somebody who can hit a little, 199 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:53,720 Speaker 4: bit who can hit at a league average. RATE i 200 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:55,440 Speaker 4: one hundred percent agree with. YOU i think there's a 201 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 4: very good chance they try to renegotiate this. Contract When 202 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 4: Chris sale came, over he had deferred money on his original. 203 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 4: Deal deferred money is another one of those things The 204 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 4: braves don't, do so they immediately renegotiated the deal to 205 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 4: get rid of the deferred. Money in exchange gave him 206 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 4: an extra year and extra guaranteed. MONEY i would not 207 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 4: be surprised at all if they did the same. Thing 208 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 4: it Is Scott prris as the, agent, which, yeah we'll. 209 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 1: Talk we'll talk about that. Too then, yeah. 210 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 4: INTERESTING i would not be surprised at. All BUT i think, 211 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:27,320 Speaker 4: OVERALL i think OVERALL i like. IT i. DO i 212 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 4: think there's a little more risk that than it's being 213 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:33,840 Speaker 4: talked about, widespread BUT i think OVERALL i like the. 214 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 1: Deal we agree on, that and we will have more 215 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 1: On Hassan. KIM i know people were asking, us like 216 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:40,960 Speaker 1: if we're going. OVERBOARD i don't think we. Are this 217 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 1: is an emergency, situation like this is not a Normal 218 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 1: the way THAT i framed it on YouTube and other 219 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 1: comments was like people were, like is This? Amercy like, yeah 220 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 1: think about how you would react if The braves gave 221 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:54,560 Speaker 1: out a sixteen million dollars average annual value contract In, 222 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 1: november it would be an. Emergency it would be a multi. 223 00:10:57,520 --> 00:11:00,959 Speaker 1: Show and that's they just not, effectively not exactly, done 224 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:03,200 Speaker 1: but effectively done. Here so it's a big. Topic we 225 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 1: have more to come on that in a, second but 226 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:07,320 Speaker 1: first even we have a word from our friends At. 227 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 1: DraftKings in the player spotlight segment on today's, Show Questions 228 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 1: today by folks at The pick six app From DraftKings 229 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:18,320 Speaker 1: AND nfl, fans it's that. Time week one is you're 230 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 1: shot to play free and stack a million dollar cash 231 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 1: bag With Draft kings pick, six an official partner of THE. 232 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 1: Nfl and while we've been talking About Hassan, kim it's 233 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 1: a that That Husse kim is a topic that is 234 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:33,440 Speaker 1: not built for a short. Segment it's a multi faceted. 235 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:36,560 Speaker 1: Thing this player that we're gonna highlight today For Draft 236 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 1: kings at pick six Is Hayden. Harris and this has 237 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 1: not been a new topic for. Us we just got 238 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 1: S Hayden harris several. Times but finally in the word 239 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 1: in The parliamce Of braves, Fans Finally Hayden harris was 240 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:51,560 Speaker 1: caught up On, tuesday after the long national or at 241 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 1: least regional nightmares Over, Steven Hayden harris has been called. 242 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 1: Up he actually debuted pitched, well scoreless inning On. Tuesday but, 243 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 1: uh long story, short this is a older, prospect but 244 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 1: a prospect and a relieving and a relief pitcher left 245 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 1: hander that has one of the most preposterous stat lines 246 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:12,960 Speaker 1: you'll ever see this year In TRIPLE a and that 247 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:16,080 Speaker 1: leads to some pretty, interesting intriguing and some legitimate buzz. 248 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 1: Fourteen that doesn't have too much buzz right, Now Hayden 249 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:19,599 Speaker 1: harris springs a lot of. 250 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:23,520 Speaker 4: Buzz, YEAH i mean you don't SEE i think it. 251 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 4: DOUBLED i think at DOUBLE a this year he was 252 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 4: striking out like fifteen per nine. 253 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:30,679 Speaker 1: INNINGS i have the numbers that you're ready for, This. 254 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 1: Stephen this is. Full this is combined DOUBLE, a TRIPLE a, 255 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 1: right minor league stats this. Year thirty nine, appearances forty eight, 256 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 1: innings so more than any per, appearance seventy three strikeouts 257 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 1: in forty eight, innings and an era of drum roll 258 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 1: please zero point five to. Six, now obviously that era 259 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:54,959 Speaker 1: is not sustainable for anyone On, earth but seventy three 260 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 1: ks in fort eight innings is a good. Sign that's 261 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 1: it means it's more. Sustainable then if he was like 262 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:04,960 Speaker 1: a soft tosser walking between the rain, drops this would 263 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 1: be so. Exciting but to your, point the strikeouts have been, 264 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 1: very very, appealing and. 265 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 4: He doesn't do it with. Velocity it was ninety, three 266 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:17,680 Speaker 4: ninety four he pitched to night against The. CUBS i 267 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 4: was very. Keen you, Know i've obviously been following it 268 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 4: like everybody, else SO i was made SURE i was 269 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 4: fully locked in for his. INNING i think he threw twelve, 270 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:29,319 Speaker 4: pitches AND i think he threw eleven. Fastballs he is 271 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:32,320 Speaker 4: a high fastball usage, guy and to have that many 272 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:35,680 Speaker 4: strikeouts when you're throwing ninety three to ninety four means 273 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 4: a you have really good shape on the, fastball which 274 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:41,559 Speaker 4: is a big deal these. Days you also have something 275 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:44,319 Speaker 4: unusual about your delivery or how well you hide the, 276 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 4: ball which clearly he does and a lot of lefties 277 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:50,679 Speaker 4: do just you, know especially when you're three. Quarters so 278 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 4: it's gonna be. Interesting I'M i don't. Know we thought 279 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:55,480 Speaker 4: this was gonna come like two weeks, ago and. 280 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:57,200 Speaker 1: YEAH i don't know what they're waiting. On it's it's 281 00:13:57,320 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 1: very strange they waited this, long because once they waited this, 282 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:01,079 Speaker 1: long it was, like oh, there there's not gonna do 283 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:04,200 Speaker 1: this all. Year it's, honestly IF i guess this, morning 284 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 1: if they were gonna bring Up Hayden, HARRIS i would 285 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 1: have said, no not because they shouldn't, have but because, 286 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 1: like why did they wait this? Long like once they 287 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 1: waited this, long that might just spend next year and we'll. 288 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:14,320 Speaker 1: See but he wasn't. 289 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 4: Even Their september call up like this was in addition 290 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 4: to Their september call. Up they just made a roster. Move, 291 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 4: yeah it didn't make any, sense but he deserved to 292 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 4: be on the major league. Roster that's he. 293 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 1: Does, yeah interesting. Profile the lack of velocity while leaning 294 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 1: heavily on a four steam. Fastball a guy that throws 295 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 1: as many four seas fasketball as he, does you expect 296 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:37,240 Speaker 1: them to throw like really. Hard anything does? It it's 297 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 1: a very interesting and plus he's left handed and all the. 298 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 1: Stuff But Hayden harris very interesting player again through a 299 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 1: cleaning today in his, debut and more to come on, 300 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 1: Him i'm sure over the next four weeks for The. Braves, Now, 301 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 1: stephen it is time take a look some pick six 302 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:54,400 Speaker 1: options for my friends At, DraftKings And i'm gonna show 303 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 1: them on the screen to watch on. YouTube it IS nfl. 304 00:14:57,360 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 1: Season as we alluded, to we're both gonna make half 305 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 1: of the picks. Here, ever going TO Nfl week, One, 306 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 1: stephen because the kickoff game in THE nfl Is thursday 307 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 1: Evening Wrook Grims tuesday. Night i'm gonna let you go, 308 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 1: first AND i THINK i know where you're going because 309 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 1: we already talked about, this but seeing up for, You, 310 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 1: steve where's your? 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Talking it's been twenty four. 356 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 1: Hours he has not, talked BUT snet of course did 357 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 1: because they had a game. Today But Scott boris is 358 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 1: a name that is prominent among baseball. Fans he's the 359 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 1: biggest agent in the. Sport everyone knows that The braves 360 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 1: have not been very much in The scott bors business 361 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:40,240 Speaker 1: over the. Years in, fact the most recent TIME i 362 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:42,959 Speaker 1: believe that they have A Scott boris client Was Dallas 363 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:46,359 Speaker 1: kykeel in twenty, nineteen and that was a very odd 364 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:49,720 Speaker 1: situation Where kykeele wanted a long term, deal he couldn't find, 365 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:51,400 Speaker 1: it and The braves gave him a one year. Deal 366 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 1: we just talked about in Like. JUNE i think it 367 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:56,240 Speaker 1: was Like Junior july when they brought In dallas. Cycle 368 00:17:57,280 --> 00:17:59,920 Speaker 1: so that was a pillow deal for. Him this time, 369 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 1: around we talked a lot about negotiations and potential to 370 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:08,679 Speaker 1: restructure in. Things Scott boris is not a restructured. Guy generally, 371 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:11,679 Speaker 1: speaking it may not be as easy For alex to 372 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 1: restructure and talk to talk to your. Options so is 373 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:18,440 Speaker 1: there any bearing on your reaction to the deal knowing 374 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:21,440 Speaker 1: That Hassan kim has an agent Named scott Borsk. 375 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:25,239 Speaker 4: Not, really because like you just play it out as 376 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:29,199 Speaker 4: if the sixteen million dollar player option is. INEVITABLE i. 377 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:33,160 Speaker 4: THINK i, mean, again there's risk here regardless of who 378 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:36,360 Speaker 4: his agent. Is but it is one hundred percent true 379 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:42,120 Speaker 4: That Scott boris is usually hesitant to give away any 380 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:45,879 Speaker 4: free agent years for. Anything Now i'll say. This you, 381 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 4: Know Hassan kim is in a little bit of a 382 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:51,400 Speaker 4: different situation with the. Injury you, know he's, Older it's 383 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 4: not like He's it's not like The braves would be 384 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 4: trying to lock him down for an extra three or 385 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 4: four free agent, years like they would be trying to 386 00:18:57,320 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 4: add one more free agent. Year, again they would pay, 387 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 4: forward he would get guaranteed. Money Like Scott boris is 388 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:04,199 Speaker 4: a bit of a, BOOGEYMAN i think to a lot of. 389 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 4: Fans he's just trying to get his player the best. 390 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:10,440 Speaker 4: Deal and, like if The braves go to them and, say, hey, 391 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:12,640 Speaker 4: listen we want to get rid of this player, option 392 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 4: but in exchange will give you an extra, year extra 393 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:18,640 Speaker 4: guaranteed money at this, rate they just make a value 394 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 4: judgment that's either worth it to them or it. Isn't 395 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 4: it's not like it's not like he just, hates you, 396 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 4: know doing business with The. Brave he's just looking for 397 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 4: the best deal for his. Guys SO i don't think 398 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 4: of it as as much a negative as other people. 399 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 4: Do it does probably make it a little less, likely 400 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:34,200 Speaker 4: but at that point then you just got to assume 401 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:37,879 Speaker 4: the sixteen million dollar option player option is inevitable and 402 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 4: factor that into how you value the, deal. 403 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:43,119 Speaker 1: Right and that's something that we talked about yesterday, too 404 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:45,879 Speaker 1: but it's worth. Emphasizing if you're The braves And alex 405 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 1: again hasn't talked, Yet i'm sure he would acknowledge. This 406 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 1: when you claim Hasan, kim you have to be prepared 407 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 1: to pay him sixteen million dollars next, year full. Stop 408 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 1: like you don't do this pickup if you're not prepared 409 00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 1: to pay that. Money and obviously there are downside scenarios 410 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:04,160 Speaker 1: where he gets hurt in the next month and he's 411 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:05,920 Speaker 1: out for a. While that would really be the worst case. 412 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 1: Scenario as long as he is. HEALTHY i almost don't 413 00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:12,720 Speaker 1: care if he plays. Badly i'll just said plays hits. 414 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:15,480 Speaker 1: BADLY i think his glove's gonna be fine to it. 415 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 1: Tonight it's. Fine BUT i, stressed AND i still believe, 416 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:22,639 Speaker 1: This LIKE i Think Braise bench should not panic About 417 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:24,959 Speaker 1: Austin kim if he has a bad two. Weeks, LIKE 418 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:29,960 Speaker 1: i just don't care about that particularly. Much but no matter, 419 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:32,640 Speaker 1: what you gotta be paid to, pay prepared to pay 420 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:36,240 Speaker 1: the contract as. Is there's a chance. Herastructure there's a 421 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:38,120 Speaker 1: chance he opts. OUT i, Mean i'm not saying it's gonna. 422 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 1: Happen it's likely, not but there's definitely a. Chance it 423 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:44,680 Speaker 1: only takes. ONE i, mean he signed that deal With. 424 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 1: Tampa it was always kind of an odd. Deal tampa 425 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 1: is a weird place for him to him to have, 426 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:53,639 Speaker 1: landed but it was because he got the best of 427 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 1: both worlds that he. Could so he got he got 428 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:59,399 Speaker 1: short term money and the flexibility of the player, actually 429 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:02,880 Speaker 1: so basically he could lock in thirty ish million dollars 430 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:05,359 Speaker 1: will also having the ability if he had had a 431 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:07,639 Speaker 1: great second half this, year you could opt out and 432 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:09,240 Speaker 1: go get the same money that he was corrected to. 433 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 1: Get and not to repeat, everything but there were projections 434 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 1: out there from credible places last winter that he could 435 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:19,159 Speaker 1: get four for eighty or five for one, hundred like 436 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 1: he was that kind of level. Phraging if he had been, 437 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:23,760 Speaker 1: healthy he would have gotten. THAT i think if he 438 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 1: hadn't gone into the off season with his shoulder, surgery 439 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:28,400 Speaker 1: he would have gotten a lot of money last. Winter 440 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:34,639 Speaker 1: and that's all interesting like, context but one question actually 441 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:36,919 Speaker 1: had Got i'm sure you probably got, two BUT i 442 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:38,919 Speaker 1: know we as a show we got it was like 443 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:41,040 Speaker 1: people were, like, wait how did this happen? Again like 444 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:44,119 Speaker 1: why was he on? Waivers like did we know he 445 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 1: was on? Wivers and the answer to that is the 446 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:49,960 Speaker 1: braves due and people inside the league. Know but there 447 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:52,119 Speaker 1: are different kinds of not different kinds of. Waivers but 448 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:55,119 Speaker 1: he wasn't like announced as A. Dfa this wasn't like 449 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 1: they were cutting. Him there is a process And i'll 450 00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:00,240 Speaker 1: let you talk about, it like where guys can be 451 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 1: placed on waivers and clearly The rays were hoping someone 452 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 1: would claim him to save the. Money The rays are famously. Cheap, 453 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:09,119 Speaker 1: yeah and that's probably that was their end. Game but 454 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:11,680 Speaker 1: no one In tampa. KNEW i, mean the organization, knew 455 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:13,959 Speaker 1: but like The vidias didn't, know the fans didn't. Know 456 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 1: that's why it was such a. Surprise if he had 457 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:19,199 Speaker 1: been if he had been, defated if we knew he 458 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:21,640 Speaker 1: was on, waivers that had been a show for, us 459 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 1: like On, saturday, like, hey should The braves should The braves? 460 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 1: Claim it's Like kim would have been a talking, point 461 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:26,680 Speaker 1: but nobody. 462 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 4: Knew so you know, this there's like ten people in 463 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:32,159 Speaker 4: the world that care about this. Stuff it's it's a 464 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 4: little bit procedural With Major League, baseball but you, know 465 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:37,880 Speaker 4: like five years, ago there was something called The august 466 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 4: trade deadline and revocable, waivers where you would literally teams 467 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 4: would put their entire roster on waivers On august. First 468 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:49,720 Speaker 4: and the whole point was if somebody, claimed like The, 469 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:52,360 Speaker 4: braves if this was five years, ago The braves would 470 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:55,880 Speaker 4: have Put ronald koona junior and Special swallenbach and medalson 471 00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 4: and everybody on. Waivers and if any of those guys got, 472 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:01,200 Speaker 4: cleimed you would just revoke the, waivers pull them, back 473 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:03,240 Speaker 4: and you're. Fine and the reason they would do it 474 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 4: is because if somebody got through those, waivers as in 475 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 4: didn't get, claimed that person could then be traded after 476 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:12,440 Speaker 4: The july thirty first trade. Deadline they were Called august 477 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:18,480 Speaker 4: waiver trades that went, away revocable waivers went away and was. 478 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:20,920 Speaker 1: Gone there used to be two deadlines for, trades no. 479 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 4: One now there's, one and so now what teams. Do 480 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 4: and this really became famous a couple of years ago 481 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 4: with The angels where they started putting a lot of 482 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:32,439 Speaker 4: their more expensive guys on waivers In, august not to 483 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 4: make a trade because you can't make a trade After 484 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:37,879 Speaker 4: july thirty first, now but just to clear the, money 485 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 4: just to clear the money of whatever they're going to 486 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 4: owe that guy the rest of this. Season and obviously 487 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 4: he's got good yeah and. Beyond and that's what The rays, did, 488 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 4: Obviously Like brad just, said The rais are famous for 489 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:51,240 Speaker 4: trying to clear. Money they Put kim on waivers hoping 490 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 4: somebody would claim. Him if you claim a, guy you 491 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 4: also claim his. Contract and so The braves then inherited 492 00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 4: this sixteen million dollar player option That i'm sure The 493 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 4: rays wanted absolutely nothing to do, with and The braves, 494 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:05,919 Speaker 4: said all, right that's a gamble will. Take and so 495 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:08,360 Speaker 4: that's how we got. Here it was not announced. Publicly 496 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 4: most of the, time it's not announced. Publicly usually the 497 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 4: only time you ever hear about it is if an 498 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 4: agent leaks, it or if it's somebody you. Know you 499 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:18,200 Speaker 4: you have some of these organizations that are just absolute 500 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:21,000 Speaker 4: sieves that leak. Everything most of the, time you don't 501 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:23,399 Speaker 4: hear about any of this stuff until the conclusion of, 502 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 4: it which is the other team claims. It SO i 503 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 4: know it is, confusing and it is a little it's 504 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 4: changed in the last few, years but you, know it's 505 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:33,960 Speaker 4: all very normal. Stuff it's happened before it became famous 506 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:35,920 Speaker 4: a couple of years ago with The. Angels but, yeah 507 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:36,480 Speaker 4: that's how The. 508 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 1: Braves one more point on this is really actually interesting 509 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 1: and notable for this. Year the waiver order is reverse. Standings, 510 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:51,119 Speaker 1: yeah SO i think there's a decent chance that a 511 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 1: team better than The braves this year would have also 512 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 1: claimed how s that came. 513 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:55,480 Speaker 4: Yea. 514 00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 1: And that's probably Probably Jake. 515 00:24:58,600 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 4: Frayley The braves are like playing. 516 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:04,679 Speaker 1: Right, Yeah Jake freile is the same, thing lower, profile of, 517 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:07,400 Speaker 1: course But Jake freley was a guy that, like, YEAH 518 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 1: i mean that was an auto. Claim like he's not 519 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:12,040 Speaker 1: some like twenty million dollars, player but he's a real 520 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 1: best piece like. That that's a real guy to have 521 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 1: on your roster with platoon. Advantages and we were trying to. 522 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:17,359 Speaker 1: Talk we talked about that when when they got, Up, 523 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:20,120 Speaker 1: well that's a nice ad for where they. Were that's 524 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 1: one of the only advantages to being bad is that 525 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:26,000 Speaker 1: you have high priority in. Waivers and this is the 526 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 1: second time and again the most high profile. Time just 527 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 1: to say this out. Loud, Also kim is the, best 528 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 1: most high profile player that has gone through waivers have 529 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:36,440 Speaker 1: been claimed in the league this. Year he's The he's 530 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:37,160 Speaker 1: the biggest. 531 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:39,879 Speaker 4: Probably a few, years well since The angel did in twenty. 532 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:41,920 Speaker 1: Three, yeah and even then he might have been as 533 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 1: good as THOSE i Think LUCAS. 534 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:46,240 Speaker 4: I, think like famously Like Lucas. Giolito oh, right that's. 535 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:48,840 Speaker 1: Like an all star year and the you remember. That, 536 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 1: yeah and The angels were. Bad but all to, say 537 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 1: like The braves are. Tough you, know they're five or 538 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:57,360 Speaker 1: six on the waiver order right, now and decent chance 539 00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 1: that another team would have been, like, yes but The 540 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:02,240 Speaker 1: braves beat them to it because they Are that's one 541 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 1: way to wield being. 542 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:06,199 Speaker 4: Bad and let me, see let me say, this just 543 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 4: because he's got a player option does not mean there's 544 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:11,879 Speaker 4: not a path where this works out really well for The. 545 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 4: Braves like there is still a path where you, know 546 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:18,639 Speaker 4: If kim kind of has an Average, september picks up his, 547 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:21,360 Speaker 4: option they go into next, year own him sixteen million 548 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:23,520 Speaker 4: dollars and he just has like a normal Hass On 549 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:26,560 Speaker 4: kim year two or three win player that is a 550 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:30,639 Speaker 4: win for that sixteen, Million and to this move one hundred. Percent, 551 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:34,119 Speaker 4: oh very, clearly just because the player option is scary and, 552 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 4: riskier that doesn't don't that doesn't mean there's not a 553 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:38,679 Speaker 4: path where The braves come out on top on. 554 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:41,520 Speaker 1: This this is not a this is not an exact. 555 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 1: Science But fangrafts has this value calculator that's tied to 556 00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:48,879 Speaker 1: war AND i will just read you the amount of 557 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:52,160 Speaker 1: money that he was quote unquote worth according To fangrafts 558 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:55,720 Speaker 1: in the three previous. Seasons so twenty twenty two he's 559 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:59,160 Speaker 1: worth twenty nine point one million dollars twenty twenty, three 560 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:03,119 Speaker 1: thy three point seven million dollars twenty twenty, four he 561 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:04,880 Speaker 1: got hurt at the end of the, year didn't even 562 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:07,720 Speaker 1: play a full, season and was still worth twenty one million. 563 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:10,359 Speaker 1: Dollars so if he's just like the guy he not 564 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:12,719 Speaker 1: even a guy he's, been if he's eighty five percent 565 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 1: of the guy he's, been he is worth sixteen million. 566 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:18,760 Speaker 1: Dollars like and especially when you factor in the one 567 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:21,120 Speaker 1: the one year of it, All like if we get 568 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:24,120 Speaker 1: to that point and we will know in five weeks from, 569 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:26,120 Speaker 1: now basically well not five minutes from. Now it's The World, 570 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:29,760 Speaker 1: series so eight weeks from, now we'll know if he's 571 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:31,680 Speaker 1: opting it or. Not and at that point in, time it's, Like, 572 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:35,080 Speaker 1: okay if it is the expected outcome of one, year 573 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:38,239 Speaker 1: sixteen million, dollars we'll probably talk about this exact. Thing 574 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 1: i'll probably ask, You, Okay, stephen would you do this right? 575 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:42,840 Speaker 1: Now if he was a free, agent would you give 576 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:45,800 Speaker 1: him this? Contract and once he's probably gonna be, YES 577 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 1: i would guess. 578 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 4: Once he opts, In and it really is just like 579 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:50,760 Speaker 4: a one year signing a guy to a one year 580 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:51,200 Speaker 4: free agent. 581 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:53,360 Speaker 1: Contract once at that. Point, yes once we. 582 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:56,200 Speaker 4: Get past that, decision it's a lot easier to discuss 583 00:27:56,280 --> 00:28:00,280 Speaker 4: because the things are. Certain but, yeah that's exactly that's exactly. 584 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:02,159 Speaker 4: Right you're you're trying to you're basically trying. To you 585 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:04,800 Speaker 4: need to get through the next. Month make sure he 586 00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:07,320 Speaker 4: doesn't get. Hurt that is the that is the, Downside 587 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:08,159 Speaker 4: you're basically. 588 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 1: That's the biggest. Thing. Stay, yeah and when and when, 589 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:14,359 Speaker 1: again our Guy ken Rose all reported it was, like 590 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:15,879 Speaker 1: by the way he's getting he's ready to come off 591 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:19,160 Speaker 1: THE i l. Okay and then he literally reported came 592 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 1: off and played and looked fine. Today so hopefully that's the. 593 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 1: Case hold your breath for the next four, weeks one 594 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 1: more thing and then we can move on and we'll 595 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:30,000 Speaker 1: come back to him many more times in the next four. 596 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:32,040 Speaker 1: Weeks this is kind of funny to me that he 597 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:34,639 Speaker 1: was even like a tucking. Point But Brian sticker was 598 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:37,480 Speaker 1: asked if he was going to play shortstop in the 599 00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:41,200 Speaker 1: in the lead up, today and to his, CREDIT sti 600 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 1: did not even do like the Fake well we'll see 601 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 1: what he was. Like, no we got him to play 602 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:49,240 Speaker 1: short AND i appreciate it ABOUT. Si he didn't stick 603 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:50,960 Speaker 1: didn't do the. Wobble he was, like, no he's he's 604 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,000 Speaker 1: gonna play shortstop and then he started up the first. 605 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 1: Day we all knew, That, steve And i'm just saying 606 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 1: it out loud for anybody that was worried about CAUSE 607 00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:58,640 Speaker 1: i know he, look he has played other positions in the, 608 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:01,000 Speaker 1: past but if you look at The bridge, roster it's, 609 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,840 Speaker 1: like obviously he's gonna play. 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Games The braves have lost two. 645 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:42,719 Speaker 1: Games takeathon, wise that was good if you are one 646 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:44,920 Speaker 1: of the people rooting for. Losses The braves are NOW 647 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:47,920 Speaker 1: i believe tied for second or maybe third in The 648 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 1: tikeathon race for lottery ping pong. Balls The White sox 649 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:55,080 Speaker 1: are locked in number, one so there's a ceiling on 650 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:57,120 Speaker 1: where you could go through The, braves but they have 651 00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 1: the ability to get to as highest number two in that. 652 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:04,720 Speaker 1: List monday's game was very twenty Five. Rapes they had 653 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:07,480 Speaker 1: a six to one lead and blew it and lost 654 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:11,680 Speaker 1: in ten innings and added another one run. Loss by the, 655 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:13,960 Speaker 1: way these are both one run losses The, BRAVES i, 656 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:17,560 Speaker 1: believe in, FACT i know they. Did they expanded their 657 00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:21,720 Speaker 1: league leading total of one run losses to like thirty 658 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:25,720 Speaker 1: three or thirty four one of. Those it's, jarring but 659 00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:27,640 Speaker 1: anything he wanted to. ADD i, mean the specially trader 660 00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:29,200 Speaker 1: was probably the biggest thing to talk about From. Monday 661 00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:32,520 Speaker 1: he wasn't terribly, sharp he didn't get killed or, anything 662 00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:34,640 Speaker 1: but he was probably the one like lead story of that. 663 00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:38,480 Speaker 4: Game, yeah so again we've been kind of Tracking spencer 664 00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:40,800 Speaker 4: what he's doing in all these. Starts he went he 665 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:43,600 Speaker 4: went back. Up you, know in the last start Against, 666 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:46,600 Speaker 4: miami he had really changed up his pitch. Mix he'd 667 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:49,000 Speaker 4: gone down to like thirty eight percent fastball, usage which 668 00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:51,640 Speaker 4: is a huge drop for. Him he was back. UP 669 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:52,960 Speaker 4: i didn't get it at the very end of the, 670 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:55,600 Speaker 4: game but like with a few batters, left he was 671 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:59,520 Speaker 4: at like sixty sixty one percent fastball usage On monday. 672 00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:02,160 Speaker 4: Night so again that's just we're just tracking. It at this, 673 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:05,440 Speaker 4: point there was not really too small data to conclude. 674 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:10,120 Speaker 4: Anything he wasn't. Great his his velocit has actually dropped 675 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:11,680 Speaker 4: a little bit. More he was doing a lot in 676 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:15,240 Speaker 4: like ninety three ninety four On, Monday SO i don't 677 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:17,720 Speaker 4: know if he's getting. Tired we've talked in the past. 678 00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:20,680 Speaker 4: Before is there gonna be a point where they you, 679 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:21,920 Speaker 4: know at what point do you kind of pull the 680 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:24,840 Speaker 4: plug On spencer's twenty twenty. Five you, know we'll talk 681 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:26,680 Speaker 4: about that when it, happens but it doesn't seem to 682 00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:29,800 Speaker 4: be going to happen anytime. Soon so, yeah he was just, 683 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:32,080 Speaker 4: average and you, know the bullpen had a rough. Night 684 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,480 Speaker 4: offense actually scored some, runs which was their problem In, 685 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:38,440 Speaker 4: philadelphia but, bullpen you, know gave it. Up cubs are, 686 00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:40,920 Speaker 4: good like we talked, about and, yeah two more one 687 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:43,280 Speaker 4: run losses to add to the lead leading. 688 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:47,760 Speaker 1: TALLY i saw Some Pierce johnson consternation he allowed to 689 00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:49,240 Speaker 1: Run homeber to tie the game in the eighth On, 690 00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:53,200 Speaker 1: monday just to say this, out, well has been, really really. 691 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:56,560 Speaker 1: GOOD i know he gave up to leave in that, 692 00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:59,800 Speaker 1: game but in his previous twenty seven innings of work 693 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:03,320 Speaker 1: AN era of zero point eighty. Seven, people AND i get, 694 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:06,120 Speaker 1: it it's, natural but there's always tendency when a guy 695 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:08,400 Speaker 1: has a bad night to say he's stinkd or, something 696 00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:11,560 Speaker 1: and it's, like, well, no he's been quite. Good hisra 697 00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:13,440 Speaker 1: even with that is like in the mid twies for the, 698 00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:14,920 Speaker 1: season Like Kris, jahnson it's been. 699 00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:20,200 Speaker 4: GOOD i think A, Glaciers johnson and Ken. LEY i 700 00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:21,600 Speaker 4: have to go back and look at the, numbers BUT 701 00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:23,320 Speaker 4: i think in the second half all those dudes have 702 00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:24,560 Speaker 4: been Incredibly. 703 00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:27,520 Speaker 1: Oh i'm finding it now On. Twitter IS i tweeted 704 00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:31,680 Speaker 1: this out? Today, YEAH i Saw. Iglesias it's been about 705 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:35,080 Speaker 1: three months. Now his last thirty two and two thirds, 706 00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:37,520 Speaker 1: innings he has AN era of one point six y 707 00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:41,400 Speaker 1: five A fip of one point seven, eight with thirty 708 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:44,920 Speaker 1: six strikeouts and four. Walks he has been like utterly 709 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:50,040 Speaker 1: dominant prime rcell for three months. Now basically does that 710 00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:53,400 Speaker 1: matter for the. Season, No but it's just another guy 711 00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:55,800 Speaker 1: where it's like people just form their opinions of the 712 00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:58,800 Speaker 1: season and then stop thinking about it and only, Remember, 713 00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:00,840 Speaker 1: oh when he has a bad night there Remember like 714 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:02,880 Speaker 1: With pierce has always been weird to, me like there's 715 00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:05,040 Speaker 1: a Continued it's like dcy stinks and he just. Doesn't 716 00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:06,720 Speaker 1: he just. Doesn't he's a he's a good. Reliever he's 717 00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:09,400 Speaker 1: not a dominant. Believer he's not the best guy in the, 718 00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:11,080 Speaker 1: league but he's obviously. Good so. 719 00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:14,400 Speaker 4: And we don't talk about it a, lot BUT i 720 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:16,520 Speaker 4: mean it doesn't. Matter like they have a five million 721 00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:20,040 Speaker 4: dollar club option on Ken lee for the, season so like. 722 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:23,840 Speaker 1: How he, PITCHES i Want kinley and seven On. PIERCE i, 723 00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:25,279 Speaker 1: mean we Think johnson is gonna come back as a 724 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:27,120 Speaker 1: long As pierce as, HEALTHY i think he's probably gonna 725 00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:29,440 Speaker 1: get opted. In But kenley is the one that IS 726 00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:31,040 Speaker 1: i think With scott AND i did a segment on 727 00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:33,560 Speaker 1: this last week, maybe but it was, like, yeah this 728 00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:35,759 Speaker 1: is notable because he's been good with The braves and 729 00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:37,799 Speaker 1: that was the whole thing when they got, him was 730 00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:39,200 Speaker 1: like this is a free shot and a guy that 731 00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:42,839 Speaker 1: could fix. Him relatively not super, cheap but five million 732 00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:45,680 Speaker 1: dollars if he's a good, reliever is that's a good. 733 00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:49,520 Speaker 4: Price and now they Have Hayden harrison the. Bullpen they've 734 00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:50,360 Speaker 4: Got munos in the. 735 00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:54,200 Speaker 1: Bullpen, Yeah Rony munos made his debut along With in, 736 00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:57,360 Speaker 1: fact The braves had two debuts today On september, second 737 00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:59,239 Speaker 1: and both pitch twelve and. 738 00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:05,160 Speaker 4: So made you look At Adam, Dylan, lee Dasbel Hernandez. 739 00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:09,440 Speaker 4: Joejamenez maybe like you can start seeing the outline of 740 00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:13,200 Speaker 4: the twenty twenty six bullpen. Already they you, know they're 741 00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:15,879 Speaker 4: gonna have to have somebody to close. GAMES i don't 742 00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:17,480 Speaker 4: know who the manager is gonna be or how they 743 00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:21,000 Speaker 4: feel about having an established, closer but if it's anybody 744 00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:23,359 Speaker 4: kind of old, school they're gonna want an established. Guy 745 00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:26,520 Speaker 4: could Be. Iglesias but you can start kind of seeing 746 00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:27,879 Speaker 4: the outline of the twenty twenty six. 747 00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:31,360 Speaker 1: BULLPEN i can already see the takes if they Signed 748 00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:35,560 Speaker 1: glesias In, November, yeah CAN i see that. Coming that'll 749 00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:36,000 Speaker 1: be for another. 750 00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:36,279 Speaker 4: Show. 751 00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:39,560 Speaker 1: Uh we already mentioned that they lost today On tuesday 752 00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:42,200 Speaker 1: four to. THREE a couple home runs bo solo shots 753 00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:46,040 Speaker 1: From ozzie And Eli. White ozzi has been quietly, good 754 00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:49,400 Speaker 1: says The All Star break ops about eight, hundred like 755 00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:51,640 Speaker 1: he's showing all the signs that you need to. See 756 00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:53,239 Speaker 1: you made a. Point i'm gonna throw it to you 757 00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:54,600 Speaker 1: to give this point on the. Area it's a good. 758 00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:58,640 Speaker 1: One before we started recording about potential of the impact 759 00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:02,279 Speaker 1: on The ozzi decision by the arrival Of Hassan, Kim 760 00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:03,080 Speaker 1: what do you think about? 761 00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:07,160 Speaker 4: That, yeah so there's been. This you, Know ozzie is 762 00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:10,120 Speaker 4: not a good, defender and so if you have a 763 00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:14,520 Speaker 4: bad defender at, shortstop if they were targeting Like bobashitt or, 764 00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:16,560 Speaker 4: somebody it's tough to have like A bobashet and An 765 00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:20,200 Speaker 4: Ozzie albi's up the middle at the same. Time, however 766 00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:22,000 Speaker 4: if you have a really good defensive shortstop and The 767 00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:24,440 Speaker 4: braves at this point it seems like they're going to 768 00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:26,680 Speaker 4: have a really good defensive shortstop In Hassan kim next, 769 00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:29,880 Speaker 4: year it is a much easier to pair him With 770 00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:32,360 Speaker 4: ozzie up the, middle and b it gives you some 771 00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:35,640 Speaker 4: call certainty about what it's going to take to put that. 772 00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:38,920 Speaker 4: Together making the seven million dollar club option On, azzi 773 00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:41,600 Speaker 4: which was already very likely to be picked up because 774 00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:43,880 Speaker 4: of the four million dollar. Buyout it just adds it 775 00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,040 Speaker 4: just creates. Clarity and then you add in the fact 776 00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:50,120 Speaker 4: That ozzie has just looked substantially better in the last you, 777 00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:53,439 Speaker 4: know month or, so maybe go further back than, that 778 00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:57,640 Speaker 4: it has become at least in our. Opinion we don't 779 00:36:57,640 --> 00:36:59,839 Speaker 4: know for sure until it, happens but it seems much 780 00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,680 Speaker 4: much more likely at this. POINT i don't know if 781 00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:04,640 Speaker 4: it was ever, unlikely but it seems much much more 782 00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:06,160 Speaker 4: likely at this point That ozzie's getting picked. 783 00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:08,759 Speaker 1: Up, yeah there was a report By Mark fines in 784 00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:11,280 Speaker 1: last week or two weeks ago that it was. LIKELY 785 00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:15,520 Speaker 1: i always was in the camp Of ozzie shows anything 786 00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:19,920 Speaker 1: they're going to keep him because there's the the loyalty. 787 00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:21,960 Speaker 1: Factors that's probably the wrong, word but like they know 788 00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:26,719 Speaker 1: him that there's a substantial. Buyout everyone Loves. Ozzie the 789 00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:29,719 Speaker 1: history has been. GOOD i know people have maybe memory hold, 790 00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:32,440 Speaker 1: that but he was basically a star level player several. 791 00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:35,799 Speaker 1: Times he's still relatively, young so unless he was just 792 00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:38,520 Speaker 1: awful and that Was, look he was awful for a 793 00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:41,400 Speaker 1: while this, year so that's but what's that, CONTINUED i 794 00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:43,000 Speaker 1: thought it was always, likely but, YEAH i mean the 795 00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:46,719 Speaker 1: combination of we think, again not for, sure but we 796 00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:50,000 Speaker 1: think spending a short stop And ozzie's bounced. BACK i 797 00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:52,799 Speaker 1: would be. Surprised i'd be very surprised now if they 798 00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:53,360 Speaker 1: did not pick up the. 799 00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:56,160 Speaker 4: Action and there's a world now WHERE i, mean you've 800 00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:59,760 Speaker 4: you've Removed Nick, allen you've added pro far to, left 801 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:01,960 Speaker 4: you're gonna probably get A Dh like there's a world 802 00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,360 Speaker 4: where now you could Bet ozzie. Ninth like there's a 803 00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:07,839 Speaker 4: world Where ozzie's now the worst hitter on the, lineup depending. 804 00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:10,439 Speaker 1: On when that, Possible, yeah depending on What. 805 00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:12,560 Speaker 4: Michael harrison is doing in that. Night you, know there's 806 00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:16,239 Speaker 4: there's a much are that, month, right there's a very 807 00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:18,360 Speaker 4: good chance every night you come to the, Park ozzy 808 00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:21,279 Speaker 4: is probably your worst. Hitter and so if if he's 809 00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:23,319 Speaker 4: your worst, hitter it's a little bit different than when 810 00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:25,800 Speaker 4: Like Nick allen's your worst. Hitter he's just got to 811 00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:28,240 Speaker 4: he's got a baseline to him that he's not gonna 812 00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:30,839 Speaker 4: get too far. Below SO i do think it's more 813 00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:31,480 Speaker 4: likely now. 814 00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:34,920 Speaker 1: It's only forty four, games but, HIM i think a 815 00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:37,359 Speaker 1: seven ninety eight ops in the last forty four, games 816 00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:40,799 Speaker 1: which is say sales heart. Break that's something that with 817 00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:44,000 Speaker 1: due Respect Nick allen cannot do for forty four. Games 818 00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:46,080 Speaker 1: like even for forty, four which is a full, season 819 00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:49,120 Speaker 1: he can't do. That ozzie is capable of doing this 820 00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:51,960 Speaker 1: for full, season like it would not It's september, Second 821 00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:55,280 Speaker 1: it would not surprise me next year If ozzie always 822 00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:58,200 Speaker 1: hit twenty five homers and was a four wind, player, 823 00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:00,920 Speaker 1: like it wouldn't surprise. Me i'm not SAYING i wouldn't project, 824 00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:03,880 Speaker 1: that but it's that's a that's a reasonable outcome for 825 00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:06,600 Speaker 1: a guy who is still it seems, impossible but he's 826 00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:07,680 Speaker 1: still with twenty eight as we're. 827 00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:11,840 Speaker 4: Talking but and it just matters, Less like it matters 828 00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:14,560 Speaker 4: a lot when you're batting, sixth which is Where ozzy 829 00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:17,240 Speaker 4: is batted for a lot of this when you're batting, 830 00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:20,160 Speaker 4: ninth the impact is a. LOT i, mean it just doesn't. 831 00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:22,120 Speaker 4: Matter you don't have to be that good to still 832 00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:25,799 Speaker 4: justify you being on the team paying that. Contract so 833 00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:27,920 Speaker 4: like the fact that they've raised the floor of the 834 00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:32,200 Speaker 4: lineup With profar And kim allows them to Carry ozzy 835 00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:34,439 Speaker 4: maybe more than it would if they hadn't have made those. 836 00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:39,400 Speaker 1: Moves, yeah and also well more time to everyone always forgets. 837 00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:42,399 Speaker 1: This his the buyout on his option is like half 838 00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:45,000 Speaker 1: of the. Option more, so it's it's really a it's 839 00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:48,000 Speaker 1: a three million dollar decision and that makes it even 840 00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:51,719 Speaker 1: the bar even lower to keep. Him, basically all, right 841 00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:55,040 Speaker 1: before we get out of, here we're not gonna do 842 00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:58,680 Speaker 1: The Drake balwin ran, again but he sat again. Today 843 00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:02,480 Speaker 1: i'm just he sat again today Against, lefty just saying 844 00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:06,880 Speaker 1: that out. Loud, uh last. Thing, wednesday we're going This tuesday. 845 00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:09,520 Speaker 1: Night The braves play the serious finale against The cups 846 00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:12,839 Speaker 1: On wednesday In. Chicago it's a pre normal game other 847 00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:15,800 Speaker 1: than The braves are Facing Cad. Horton and if you 848 00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:18,880 Speaker 1: don't know What Kate horton, is he's a rookie for 849 00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:21,520 Speaker 1: The cups and he also happens to be the co 850 00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:24,680 Speaker 1: betting favorite basically right now With Drake baldwin For rookie 851 00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:28,200 Speaker 1: of The. Year so it's only one, start but The 852 00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:31,120 Speaker 1: braves can do double. Damage if The braves t off 853 00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:34,000 Speaker 1: On Kate, horton that would Help Drake baldwin's case and 854 00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:38,120 Speaker 1: by proxy help The braves. ALSO i think, Uh baldwin 855 00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:40,360 Speaker 1: will probably be in the. LINEUP i would have mentioned 856 00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:42,359 Speaker 1: if he's not going to be. Furious it's a right handed. 857 00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:45,920 Speaker 1: Pitcher i'm sure he'll play. Tomorrow So Mike kingdom for 858 00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:48,680 Speaker 1: A Drake baldwin home run Off Kate horton On. WEDNESDAY 859 00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:50,080 Speaker 1: i don't know if that's gonna, happen but it would 860 00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:51,839 Speaker 1: be what you want to see if you're a rook 861 00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:53,640 Speaker 1: if you're rooting For rookie of The, year that would 862 00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:57,040 Speaker 1: be a. Bit there's a potential for a statement game On. 863 00:40:57,080 --> 00:41:01,080 Speaker 4: Wednesday, yeah listen WEEK i, mean we're tracking these odds. 864 00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:04,560 Speaker 4: Daily at this. Point this race literally changes by the. 865 00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:08,120 Speaker 4: Day that's how close this. Is you. Know in The American. 866 00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:10,319 Speaker 4: League Nick kurtz wrapped this up months. 867 00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:14,680 Speaker 1: Ago Nick kurts is currently two hundred to one At Draft, 868 00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:16,120 Speaker 1: kings which. 869 00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:18,120 Speaker 4: Is four homer day will do. 870 00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:21,200 Speaker 1: That, SORRY i should say one to two, hundred not 871 00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:23,600 Speaker 1: two hundred. One one to two. Hundred he is that's 872 00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:26,120 Speaker 1: much of a. Favorite But drake is the favorite right, now. 873 00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:29,719 Speaker 1: Narrowly But drake was not the favorite two days. Ago, 874 00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:32,440 Speaker 1: yeah it's really he wasn't his. 875 00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:34,880 Speaker 4: Favorite If Kate horton goes out and throws eight shutout 876 00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:35,920 Speaker 4: innings And drake goes over. 877 00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:37,080 Speaker 1: Four it's gonna flip. 878 00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:41,000 Speaker 4: Again so this is literally a day by day thing 879 00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:42,799 Speaker 4: at this, point unless one of them gets really hot 880 00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:47,040 Speaker 4: and one of them gets really, cold you, know with 881 00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:50,080 Speaker 4: the playing. Thing, Listen i'll say. This when you get 882 00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:52,120 Speaker 4: to the end of the game and you Have Eli 883 00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:54,759 Speaker 4: white on them at the, plate and there's a right 884 00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:57,080 Speaker 4: handed closer for the other, team and you Have Jake 885 00:41:57,160 --> 00:42:00,680 Speaker 4: frayley sitting on the, bench you need to Get Jake 886 00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:04,319 Speaker 4: Jake freley off the. Pitch AND i don't you, Know 887 00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:08,160 Speaker 4: Snit snitt is very very particular about these. Platoons Eli 888 00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:10,439 Speaker 4: white started tonight because there's a lefty on the, mound 889 00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:12,319 Speaker 4: but then there's a righty on the mound in the, 890 00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:15,880 Speaker 4: game there's the tying run on base And Jake freyley doesn't. 891 00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:19,160 Speaker 4: HIT i HAVE i. Have we've been doing this With 892 00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:21,239 Speaker 4: snit for like seven eight years. NOW i have yet 893 00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:23,080 Speaker 4: to figure out the logic this man. 894 00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:26,360 Speaker 1: Uses, yeah there's some things he's like religious about the 895 00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:28,920 Speaker 1: about the platoon, stuff and it's something it's not like 896 00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:30,879 Speaker 1: and just sa as a. REFRESHER i know people will 897 00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:33,160 Speaker 1: have not really maybe gotten used To Jake frailey Yet 898 00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:38,400 Speaker 1: Jake fraley is a, specialist, yes like he mashes right handed. 899 00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:40,440 Speaker 1: Pitching he has a career ops of like eight hundred 900 00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:41,960 Speaker 1: against right handed. Pitching like he hits. 901 00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:43,000 Speaker 4: Righty's that's. 902 00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:46,359 Speaker 1: That's why he's on the. Team so it's, like you're, 903 00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:48,040 Speaker 1: right use him in that. SPOT i don't really get. It, 904 00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:51,160 Speaker 1: Uh baltwin hit against the lefty late in the, game 905 00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:54,600 Speaker 1: Which i'm fine. With he hit For Nacho, alvarez, like, 906 00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:59,400 Speaker 1: sure sign me, up but like you're Sitting baldwin presumably 907 00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:01,520 Speaker 1: only because the left handed pitcher on the mound and 908 00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:05,360 Speaker 1: then he pitch it gets. LEFTY i don't. Know so 909 00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:08,440 Speaker 1: also just to say this when THEY i think we, 910 00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:11,480 Speaker 1: forgot not forgot to pitch this. Earlier uh profiles on 911 00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:14,479 Speaker 1: the paternity, list so he was not available, today which 912 00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:16,719 Speaker 1: means it was even weirder that ball wouldn't. Play it's, 913 00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:19,359 Speaker 1: like can we please play ball when When permer's not even, 914 00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:23,680 Speaker 1: playing LIKE i understand they would played was whatever ran? 915 00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:27,160 Speaker 1: Over but, yeah another one of the, Situations, stephen where 916 00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:29,399 Speaker 1: if these games, mattered we might we might have spent 917 00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:31,759 Speaker 1: five minutes On freiley not hitting for three light. 918 00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:33,799 Speaker 4: Day oh if if they were in a like A 919 00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:35,680 Speaker 4: pennant race And frehley sat on the bench in that, 920 00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:38,880 Speaker 4: spot you would have had to mute. It you'd have 921 00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:40,399 Speaker 4: to like bleep out half of MY. 922 00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:42,600 Speaker 1: I have to call, HIM i have to call, Him 923 00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:45,839 Speaker 1: sean out of the bull in at eleven Pretty eastern, Time, 924 00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:50,719 Speaker 1: sean are you? Okay, Anyway so that's the setting For. 925 00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:52,640 Speaker 1: Wednesday It's Bryce. Elder we'll see how he. Looks he 926 00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:56,719 Speaker 1: spent better, recently a little better. Recently we'll. See and 927 00:43:57,160 --> 00:44:00,239 Speaker 1: it is not a two horse. Race Isaac collins is 928 00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:01,800 Speaker 1: still kind of in the race For aki of The. 929 00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:05,040 Speaker 1: Year he's third in the betting. Odds he's a twenty 930 00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:06,960 Speaker 1: eight year. Old it's just always been a weird. CANDIDACY 931 00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:09,960 Speaker 1: i think it's probably gonna Be baldwin Or, horton but, 932 00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:12,440 Speaker 1: uh Hopefully ball just runs away with. IT i would like, 933 00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:15,000 Speaker 1: that but also there's some job if he, doesn't so. 934 00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:20,120 Speaker 4: Yep obviously big, draft you, know ramifications and all of. 935 00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:25,319 Speaker 4: That The, BRAVES i, think The, pirates The, braves The, 936 00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:28,240 Speaker 4: orioles AND i think The twins are all at sixty 937 00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:29,040 Speaker 4: two wins right. 938 00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:32,040 Speaker 1: Now, yeah there are four teams basically, tied and then 939 00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:35,680 Speaker 1: The a's have sixty four wins. Yea so basically those 940 00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:39,239 Speaker 1: five TEAMS i think are the only real KID i 941 00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:41,880 Speaker 1: mean Maybe Miami mimy's had sixty sixty five. Wins so 942 00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:46,120 Speaker 1: there's The braves could go anywhere between second and six 943 00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:50,400 Speaker 1: or seventh in odds entering the, lottery and that's a 944 00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:52,880 Speaker 1: decent size. Difference Like i'm not gonna say that's the 945 00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:54,480 Speaker 1: end of the world if they finished six or, seventh 946 00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:57,160 Speaker 1: but second or third would be better for. That, so, 947 00:44:57,520 --> 00:44:59,440 Speaker 1: yeah they lost five of six, now SO i mean 948 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,719 Speaker 1: any of the, like there was some real good vies 949 00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:04,400 Speaker 1: for a while when they were. Winning they were thirteen 950 00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:06,560 Speaker 1: and five and one stretch that has come to an. 951 00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:09,480 Speaker 1: End now they've lost five out of six and now 952 00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:14,680 Speaker 1: it's just straight. Development it's young guys making, debuts It's Drake, 953 00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:18,000 Speaker 1: bowin It's Hassan kim of, course and it's lottery. Odds 954 00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:19,200 Speaker 1: and we'll. 955 00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:21,800 Speaker 4: Se, yeah The braves finishing with the second best odds 956 00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:24,560 Speaker 4: And drake Winning rookie of The year to get the extra, 957 00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:27,640 Speaker 4: pick versus The braves finishing like with the seventh best 958 00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:30,120 Speaker 4: odds And drake not Winning rookie of The year and 959 00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:32,520 Speaker 4: not getting that extra. Pick the difference there in like 960 00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:38,240 Speaker 4: draft pool, Money, oh pretty. Substantial so, yeah the, yeah 961 00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:40,440 Speaker 4: this is something to. Track it's it is actually quite. 962 00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:45,160 Speaker 1: Important, yep we will, see all, Right, Steven, uh you 963 00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:47,279 Speaker 1: AND i don't do these podcasts together that, often but 964 00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:49,560 Speaker 1: twice in forty eight, hours here we. 965 00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:52,480 Speaker 4: Are scott's on the other side of the, world just gallivanting. 966 00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:54,680 Speaker 1: AROUND i GOT i got a funny text From. SCOTT 967 00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:56,920 Speaker 1: i won't share the exact of, it But Scott scott 968 00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:59,680 Speaker 1: is in hysterics That braves had one of their like 969 00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:03,160 Speaker 1: big moments and transaction in the last like two, years 970 00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:05,960 Speaker 1: and it was On september, first with him out of the. 971 00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:08,920 Speaker 1: Country it was just why would that? Happen who? Knows 972 00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:12,359 Speaker 1: but here we, Are, Stephen we've covered, it and we'll 973 00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:14,360 Speaker 1: cover it some. MORE i can promise you. THAT i 974 00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:18,279 Speaker 1: would imagine we'll get the traditional partnership Of sean And 975 00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:21,000 Speaker 1: stephen later on this. Week but no. Guarantees but that's 976 00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:21,520 Speaker 1: my that's my. 977 00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:24,040 Speaker 4: GUESS i also feel like maybe it's because they're on the. 978 00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:26,480 Speaker 4: ROAD i feel Like alex is gonna talk at some. 979 00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:30,879 Speaker 1: POINT i would assume that he will The braves come 980 00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:34,920 Speaker 1: back home on to Play. FRIDAY i would be surprised 981 00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:38,319 Speaker 1: if he does not, talk either in press conference or 982 00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:40,560 Speaker 1: like Maybe i'll do a radio interview or SOMETHING i 983 00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:41,040 Speaker 1: thought we would. 984 00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:42,799 Speaker 4: GET i actually thought we'd get one today me. 985 00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:45,920 Speaker 1: Too he may not be. THERE i don't. Know it's 986 00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:48,920 Speaker 1: one of. Those LIKE i, Know i'm pretty Sure bowman 987 00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:52,000 Speaker 1: isn't on the. Trip, yeah like that's different Than alex, 988 00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:54,759 Speaker 1: obviously but like we're that time of year where like 989 00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:58,000 Speaker 1: it'd be a natural point it Was Labor day, weekend 990 00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:02,120 Speaker 1: like Maybe alex is. Not but, yeah when them coming, 991 00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:03,560 Speaker 1: HOME i would be. Shocked if we don't hear From 992 00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:06,600 Speaker 1: alex By, Friday i'll be. Surprised so that's another. Topic 993 00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:08,280 Speaker 1: when it. COMES i don't know what he's gonna. Say 994 00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:11,719 Speaker 1: that would be terribly, revelatory BUT i do want to 995 00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:13,840 Speaker 1: hear what he. SAYS i, Mean sticker does not make that. 996 00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:17,520 Speaker 1: Decision snate just gets gets to do and. Rightly so 997 00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:19,520 Speaker 1: the you, know this is just another club in the 998 00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:21,560 Speaker 1: back look FOR, sni it's, like, hey this is our. Shortstop, 999 00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:24,120 Speaker 1: great he's enough grade for. Us alex has to like 1000 00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:27,400 Speaker 1: think about all, this all the things and speak on 1001 00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:30,120 Speaker 1: at least to some, degree hopefully with some candor of 1002 00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:30,600 Speaker 1: why they did. 1003 00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:33,120 Speaker 4: This so, yeah and it's also means to see When 1004 00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:35,319 Speaker 4: profar comes. Back they didn't have to make a move 1005 00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:37,279 Speaker 4: because they just Put profile on the paternity. List But 1006 00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:39,960 Speaker 4: profile is back in a few, days So i'm guessing 1007 00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:41,120 Speaker 4: Bru hun gets, cut but we'll. 1008 00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:43,200 Speaker 1: See, yeah and they. Did they Put rob in the 1009 00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:47,040 Speaker 1: sixty day yesterday to make the move, originally and then 1010 00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:50,120 Speaker 1: we'll see what happens from. There all, Right, steven thank 1011 00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:52,440 Speaker 1: you for being. Here you can Follow steven at is 1012 00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:54,960 Speaker 1: it be at B Underscore? Outliers that's? 1013 00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:57,560 Speaker 4: CORRECT i think that's. Right, yeah that's so not true. 1014 00:47:57,560 --> 00:47:59,160 Speaker 1: THAT i psyched you out there on your own. 1015 00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:01,480 Speaker 4: Shot john actually knows, it But sean always says it 1016 00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:03,279 Speaker 4: at The Inner. SHOW i Think sean actually knows it 1017 00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:03,719 Speaker 4: better THAN i. 1018 00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:05,719 Speaker 1: DO i Think sewan's a better host THAN i, am 1019 00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:06,680 Speaker 1: there's no question about. 1020 00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:08,520 Speaker 4: That certainly better host THAN i. AM i think it's. 1021 00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:11,840 Speaker 1: Out we got halfway through the show yesterday AND i was, 1022 00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:13,840 Speaker 1: like why AM i? Hosting LIKE i was hosting With? 1023 00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:15,359 Speaker 1: Sewan AND i was, LIKE i should have Made sewan 1024 00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:15,680 Speaker 1: host this. 1025 00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:17,920 Speaker 4: PODCAST i WAS i did feel cheated when you Got 1026 00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:21,560 Speaker 4: so you guys did your first ever. Show you guys 1027 00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:23,760 Speaker 4: did your first ever show. TOGETHER i think On monday 1028 00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:26,319 Speaker 4: with The emergency, podcast AND i WAS i meant to 1029 00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:28,319 Speaker 4: text you. GUYS i meant to SAY i want, BOTH 1030 00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:32,600 Speaker 4: i want both. INTROS i Want brad's, INTRO i Want shawn's. 1031 00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:34,600 Speaker 1: Intro it would be very confusing with people IF i 1032 00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:37,560 Speaker 1: just came and said hello, everyone and Then sean just 1033 00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:44,760 Speaker 1: starts at the same. Time sean's just, sorry my, favorite 1034 00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:46,920 Speaker 1: my favorite intro in all of. SPORTS i was not 1035 00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:50,319 Speaker 1: ready for That steven's impression Of. Sean, okay that's all 1036 00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:52,799 Speaker 1: we have. Today please subscribe To Hammers. Territory tell your 1037 00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:55,920 Speaker 1: friends how about our. Podcast we, really we really do appreciate, 1038 00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:58,680 Speaker 1: it but listening to the show. Sincerely keep it. Locked 1039 00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:00,719 Speaker 1: we'll be here all month and. 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