1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:03,760 Speaker 1: The Big Bets on Campus Podcast Podcast. 2 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 2: Poda, All right here we are right in the corner. 3 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:15,640 Speaker 3: Then seconds of age, so it just goes throw down 4 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:17,160 Speaker 3: the basket under the basket. 5 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 2: That's the true for the wind. God, I'm Verracle. I 6 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 2: just water big that one from a fucking love. What's 7 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:32,240 Speaker 2: up the generation? Welcome to the Big Bets on Campus Podcast. 8 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 2: This is the College Basketball n c Double A Tournament 9 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 2: betting preview, fourth Thursday. I'm stucky in enjoining me or 10 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 2: my fellow BBOC Coast Christian and Greg. Oh boy, I 11 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 2: cannot wait to get into these games. It is the 12 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 2: best time of the year. Everyone has hope. Right now, 13 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 2: your brackets are still intact. You're gonna win all of 14 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 2: your bets, and hopefully we can help you pick some 15 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 2: winners and help you fill out that bracket. We're gonna 16 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 2: go through game by game on Thursday two we don't 17 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 2: know about Maybe we'll talk a little BYU versus their 18 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:14,039 Speaker 2: potential opponent who cares about the Michigan game. They're just 19 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:17,679 Speaker 2: gonna crush somebody. But we'll go through each of the 20 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:21,120 Speaker 2: fourteen matchups that we do know on Thursday. After this 21 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 2: later today, recording an episode with Duck and Calabery's going 22 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 2: through every game on Friday. Also have a live show 23 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 2: Thursday morning to go through the games, any updates, favorite bets, 24 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 2: cover any news, and then we'll do the same thing 25 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 2: on Saturday for the round of thirty two. Greg, Merry Christmas. 26 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 2: How goes it? How's your week? This is one of 27 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 2: the quickest. You would think that, Like, what's the longest 28 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 2: for me is Thursday morning because I'm so I'm busy 29 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 2: every single second from selection Sunday, from the the brackets 30 00:01:57,160 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 2: release until you know, Thursday morning, and then Thursday morning 31 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 2: feels like an eternity. But this week always goes by 32 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 2: so fastering, which is not It's nice to be this 33 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:09,959 Speaker 2: busy because it's still my favorite two days of the year. 34 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:13,799 Speaker 3: How you feeling feeling great? It is the best time 35 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 3: of year, like you said, for people like us. I 36 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 3: am distracted this week because I have my son's first 37 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 3: birthday tomorrow, so my wife is just like running around 38 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:28,080 Speaker 3: buying gifts and decorations and organizing a party for Sunday. 39 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 3: And I'm just like knee deep in thirty two games 40 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:34,639 Speaker 3: trying to break it all down. So I know you 41 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:37,399 Speaker 3: can relate as as a father now stuck. It gets 42 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:39,640 Speaker 3: a little different when the family starts growing up, but 43 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:41,639 Speaker 3: the joy, the passion is still here. 44 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 2: I'm pumped. Yeah. Fortunately my wife is. She just knows 45 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 2: during football and basketball's right now. I am a horrendous father. So, Kristen, 46 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 2: how you feeling. 47 00:02:57,680 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 1: I'm good. 48 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 4: I was talking to somebody else staying like, oh, this 49 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:03,959 Speaker 4: week takes forever, and I'm like, we're we're on different planets, 50 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 4: like they're all excited for Thursday. Not that I'm trust me, 51 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:09,360 Speaker 4: I'm very excited for Thursday, but all of a sudden, 52 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 4: you know, from November, from before November, all the way 53 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:16,640 Speaker 4: until that bracket's revealed, like everything it's kind of in 54 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 4: the frame of my mind, like what's going to happen 55 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 4: in the tournament? How will I like this team in 56 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 4: the tournament or not? And then to only have a 57 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 4: few days to just get all my thoughts in order 58 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 4: and stuff can always be a lot. But I'm super 59 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 4: excited for this year's tournament and trying to. 60 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:34,679 Speaker 1: Relax and enjoy it a bit too. 61 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I do one of the things that I'm hoping 62 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 2: I do. Hope we get a list. It's getting harder 63 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 2: and harder to get more chaos in the early rounds. 64 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 2: Is the gap grows now on paper, theoretically it'll make 65 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 2: for more interesting and better matchups down the line. Right, 66 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 2: you think back all the years we've had upsets and 67 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 2: Cinderella is you know, in the Elite A this sweek sixteen. 68 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 2: Then you'll get like some team getting their doors blown off. 69 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 2: But you know, this year, the thirteen through fifteen seeds 70 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 2: are all favored by at least thirteen and a half points. 71 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 2: In the history of the tournament, we've never even had 72 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 2: all of them favored by ten plus points, and this 73 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 2: is a year after all of them won outright, I 74 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:19,480 Speaker 2: think the closest margin was nine points. So I'm hoping 75 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 2: that we get a little more casts, just because these 76 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:24,480 Speaker 2: two days lose a little bit of the luster, right 77 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:28,160 Speaker 2: if it's just Chalk City. So but we'll see how 78 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:31,840 Speaker 2: it goes. Regardless, we have bets, which is always going 79 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 2: to make it interesting, and everyone's brackets and the contest 80 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 2: that you're in. This is always going to be two 81 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 2: of the most exciting days of the year. So let's 82 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 2: go through these games chronologically. We'll start right when you'll 83 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 2: hear the CBS music which will just get my blood flowing. 84 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:56,479 Speaker 2: Twelve to fifteen Eastern on CBS in the East Region, 85 00:04:57,279 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 2: we have TCU take on Ohio State in Greenville, South Carolina. 86 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 2: Ohio State is a two and a half point favorite 87 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 2: total one six and a half. Ohio State went from well, 88 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:13,600 Speaker 2: I don't know if they're going to make the tournament, 89 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:18,039 Speaker 2: to they're on the bubble to they're clearly in after 90 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 2: a late season surge. Greg, I know you have a 91 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 2: hot take here. What do you like? Yeah, I'm gonna 92 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:25,840 Speaker 2: be on the Buckeyes here. 93 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:29,359 Speaker 3: I think this is the draw that they would be 94 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:34,160 Speaker 3: hoping for, a team that can't really brutalize them inside 95 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 3: and whose offense just flat out isn't really good enough 96 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:38,840 Speaker 3: to run away with it. 97 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 2: I think you look at key positional matchups. One needs 98 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:42,559 Speaker 2: to go right for Ohio State. 99 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 3: Their guards need to win one on one matchups Thornton 100 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 3: and Mobley against small guards. I think is a reasonable 101 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:52,160 Speaker 3: outcome for them. And then I think they've got Devin 102 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 3: Royle to throw at David Punch. I just think they 103 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:58,039 Speaker 3: like their chances in those key spots. 104 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:01,160 Speaker 2: TCU is good. Don't give me wrong. I liked them. 105 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 2: I liked betting them a lot this year down the stretch. 106 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 3: But I think this shapes up well for Ohio State 107 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 3: stars to have a big night minus two and a half. 108 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 2: I'll be on it. I will be against you here. 109 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 2: I like TCU. I think with this this matchup first 110 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 2: came out, I said, this is a bad matchup for Thornton. 111 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 2: TCU will hedge. Their pick and roll defense is elite 112 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 2: eighty ninth percentile per Synergy twenty fourth percentile frequency. It's 113 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 2: very difficult for a lead guard to run pick and 114 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 2: roll the lead ball handler. Ohio State, that's their most 115 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 2: efficient offense. Obviously, with Thornton a ninety seventh percentile pick 116 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 2: and roll ball handler offense. I think TCU can take 117 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:45,600 Speaker 2: the ball out of Thornton's hands, force others to beat them, 118 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:48,360 Speaker 2: which you know, maybe they can. Bying them has been 119 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:51,160 Speaker 2: great down the stretch. Additionally, a couple other things. I 120 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:53,159 Speaker 2: think TCU can live on the offensive. The last year 121 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 2: they can get to the line, got to make their 122 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 2: free throws. They're not a great free throw shooting team. 123 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:00,280 Speaker 2: And then Ohio State they lacked depth. They get in 124 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 2: foul trouble here. That could be problematic in Ohio State yes, 125 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 2: they've been very good down the stretch. But since February first, 126 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 2: they're shooting forty two percent from three. They're seven percent 127 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 2: better than they were prior to February first. So there's 128 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 2: some shooting looming, shooting regression possible, and so I think 129 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 2: TCU can win the shot volume here. They've been big 130 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 2: game They've been a big game team all year long. 131 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 2: They've been a top fifteen top fifteen defense in top 132 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 2: one hundred games, they've played thirteen of them. Ohio State meanwhile, 133 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 2: in those in top one hundred games is eighty on defense. 134 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:39,559 Speaker 2: Neutral court tc has been one of the best teams 135 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 2: in the country. I mean it's a team that's five 136 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 2: to zer against the spread on neutral courts, depending on 137 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 2: what number you got. They blew out Wisconsin, they beat 138 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 2: Florida on a neutral court. So and then what puts 139 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 2: it over the top for me? Gimme Dixon over Diebler. 140 00:07:55,520 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 2: You're guy Deebler, Greg who now consistently ride with TCU. Christian, 141 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 2: I think this game, by the way, screams down to 142 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 2: the wire. I think it's a really good game to have. 143 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 2: Kick things off. Christian, you want to break the tie? 144 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you guys covered most of the main points. 145 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 4: One wrinkle is I had the same thought about Bruce 146 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 4: just kind of get trying to get the ball out 147 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 4: of his hands, like like aggressive hard heads, like they're 148 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 4: kind of like a Houston light and how they want 149 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 4: to play. But something that Deebler has done really interesting 150 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 4: is move Bruce off the ball more. That worked against Michigan, 151 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 4: that worked against Iowa. And I mean, he it's actually 152 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 4: absurd how good he is. We don't talk about him 153 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 4: enough because like you have like a Brandon in that 154 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 4: league of Bennetts, Sturt's so many exciting freshmen, Like he 155 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 4: is unreal and he takes care of the ball and 156 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 4: he's incredibly efficient. 157 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:49,080 Speaker 1: So like he's just the type of. 158 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 4: Guy that you know, if this gets tight and in 159 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:55,079 Speaker 4: the half court and it's closed in those last eight minutes, 160 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:57,320 Speaker 4: Like he is definitely the best guard on the floor. 161 00:08:57,679 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 1: And I think that means a lot. 162 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 4: But I'm still signing TCU because I just I'm looking 163 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:03,839 Speaker 4: at ot Ohio State did a non con Like you 164 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:05,720 Speaker 4: lost at pitt You know what I'm saying. 165 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 1: You played West Virginian double overtime. 166 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 4: They played Notre Dame in a one point game, I 167 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 4: kind of feel like just familiarity with the Big Ten 168 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 4: and Bruce being a god like carried them and like 169 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:19,560 Speaker 4: they were a great at they were great at beating 170 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 4: the bad teams in their schedule. Like their worst loss 171 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 4: in Big ten player was at Washington, which is like 172 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 4: on the West Coast against you know, a lottery pick. 173 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:31,599 Speaker 4: I so all that to say, I'm leading TCO. I 174 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 4: think Punch and Edmonds and those guys are two. I 175 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 4: thought it in the front court. And to your point, 176 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:38,079 Speaker 4: Stocky Jamie Dixon has been pretty good in the tournament. 177 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:40,679 Speaker 4: You know, they won their first round game twice in 178 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:44,200 Speaker 4: a row, lost to Utah State, and then last year 179 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 4: missed it. So he's hungry to be back here. And 180 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 4: I had one other point, what was it? Oh Ohio 181 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 4: State has literally six dudes. Gabe Cups is going to 182 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 4: die if he's out there on the court against TCU 183 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:56,440 Speaker 4: and the. 184 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 2: TCU draws a ton of fouls or high still value. 185 00:09:58,440 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 2: They have to avoid foul trouble here. 186 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 4: And I counterpoint to myself is like Michigan is such 187 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 4: a monstrous front court and like more athletic than them, 188 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 4: and that should have been a matchup that punished them. 189 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:11,599 Speaker 1: But I mean there's a level of familiarity. 190 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 4: Seen them for a third time, I think, and they 191 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 4: were able to really take the air out of the 192 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 4: ball and like make that a half court game. I 193 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 4: just think in a different environment against a team they 194 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 4: haven't seen before, really aggressive with those guards, the way 195 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:26,680 Speaker 4: they defend with depth. TC has the side for me, 196 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 4: but never fun going against Bruce in a setting like this. 197 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:33,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I will say if this game is really closer, 198 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:36,320 Speaker 2: I expect it to be. There's two things that there's 199 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:38,199 Speaker 2: one thing that could and TC's going to get to 200 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:41,319 Speaker 2: the line of ton if they're calling it tight. TC's 201 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 2: not a good free throw shooting team. Ohio State is 202 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 2: over seventy seven percent on the air, team shooting over 203 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 2: seventy seven percent from the line over the past twenty 204 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:52,719 Speaker 2: years in the tournament one on one sixty one and 205 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 2: two against the spread sixty two point three percent, and 206 00:10:56,840 --> 00:10:59,319 Speaker 2: the Big Ten they've been a wagon in the round 207 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 2: of sixty four lane year. The 're eight now against 208 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 2: the spread, and since twenty seventeen or thirty six twenty 209 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 2: and one against the spread, five hundred against the spread 210 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 2: are better than all eight tournaments over the past eight. 211 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:12,560 Speaker 1: Wait real quick. 212 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 4: That's the first game of the day, right, yep, guys, 213 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 4: I'm on like a seven year streak. It's actually unbelievable 214 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 4: of getting the first game wrong. Like I remember it 215 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:24,680 Speaker 4: was Louisville, Minnesota. I was a freshman in college. Ever 216 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 4: since then, I've gone every single first game wrong. It's 217 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 4: typically like an eight nine. Maybe it's the second game sometimes, 218 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:32,839 Speaker 4: but like it's I've not had a perfect bracket live 219 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 4: by one pm Eastern, Like I can't even remember. 220 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 2: Actually made or two or you're just cursed. I will say, 221 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 2: we mentioned Michigan. Yeah, you mentioned on how to stay 222 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 2: playing Michigan to I mean Michigan to play Virginia tof 223 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:48,319 Speaker 2: on a neutral, which is worth noting. And one of 224 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:49,680 Speaker 2: the keys is going to be I mean, if Mobile 225 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 2: gets hot, that's that's when Ohio State is at its best. 226 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:57,320 Speaker 2: Greg the one thing I'll I just asked about Michigan, 227 00:11:57,400 --> 00:12:00,320 Speaker 2: like Ohio State played them close, Wisconsin without Winter played 228 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 2: them close, Purdue destroyed them. I think part of that 229 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 2: was I'm not sure it speaks how good Michigan is 230 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:09,560 Speaker 2: and the fact that they were in the Big Ten 231 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:13,560 Speaker 2: title were they were? I think they were just a 232 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 2: little little bored looking forward a little to the tournament. 233 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 2: Would you agree with that or was there something to 234 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 2: worry about with Michigan. I'm in between on it. 235 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 3: I think Dusty May was doing some out of character 236 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 3: schematic things. I mean, he's not an auto bench guy, 237 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 3: and when Cado picked up two fouls in the semi final, 238 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 3: he just threw him on the bench basically to see, Okay, 239 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:37,320 Speaker 3: what do we do if we were without him in 240 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:41,719 Speaker 3: the NCAA tournament. I think zero to five against the 241 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 3: spread since the case and injury is something to monitor here. 242 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 2: I do not think they're the. 243 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:49,199 Speaker 3: Same team, but I would not write them off based 244 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 3: on anything you saw in conference tournament week. 245 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you just got to there. They have 246 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 2: such good their defense is so good that you and 247 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 2: then after losing case on, I think that he'll do 248 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 2: this in the tournament, but you have to keep getting 249 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 2: there to facilitate and run your offense and just tell them, dude, 250 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 2: it's okay to not be aggressive and you have rim protection. 251 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:12,199 Speaker 2: So I think that he will, but that you could 252 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:14,440 Speaker 2: tell that their offense just didn't have any continuity or 253 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:16,320 Speaker 2: flow and he went off the floor. All right, let's 254 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:21,840 Speaker 2: move on. To the second game on Thursday twelve forty 255 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 2: Eastern on True TV. The thirteen seed Troy will take 256 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 2: on four seed Nebraska. Nebraska thirteen and a half point 257 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 2: favored here total one thirty seven and a half in 258 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 2: the South Region. This game will be played in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma, 259 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 2: and get some Nebraska fans here looking for that first tourney. 260 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 2: When can they finally get it done? Nebraska Troy Christian, 261 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:52,079 Speaker 2: I think you have you said that you have a 262 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:53,320 Speaker 2: strong take care what do you like? 263 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 4: Well, I have a shown I have a lot to say. 264 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:00,960 Speaker 4: I don't know if I'm the cop. I definitely lean 265 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:03,319 Speaker 4: towards Troy. They're my favorite mid major. I had circled 266 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:05,560 Speaker 4: and when I first saw the matchup, I didn't love 267 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 4: it because they're two best players aren't great three point shooters, 268 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 4: but they're willing three point shooters. And then I kind 269 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:15,559 Speaker 4: of talked myself into you know, Troy does get a 270 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 4: lot of threes up. They got, you know, around top 271 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 4: fifty three point tempt rate in the country, and they 272 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 4: do have some actual shooters in the Campbell Brothers and 273 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 4: Cross off the bench and shoot a bit too. But 274 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 4: I just love this dude. Valdez, you know, a six 275 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 4: to seven dude who can create out of the pick 276 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 4: and roll, and the success that he had against USC 277 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 4: and against San Diego State, and just chemistry wise with 278 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 4: this Troy team. 279 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 1: To lose four starters in the portal and then. 280 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 4: To just slide everybody up and have all your bench 281 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 4: guys from last year become your starters this year, and 282 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 4: the fact that there's familiarity of all of them being 283 00:14:53,160 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 4: here last year. I just don't know if Nebraska like defensively, 284 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 4: like defensively, Troy's like right, I think Troy's rock solid, 285 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 4: and you know, guarding Nebraska's complex motion or like dealing 286 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 4: with the mass beyond the perimeter or even down on 287 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 4: the block. There's lots to deal with. But I don't know, 288 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 4: just in a March environment. I was talking myself into 289 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 4: Nebraska's a Final four sleeper like a week ago, but 290 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 4: now I'm just like, do I trust like Hoiberg and 291 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 4: Lawrence and like these guys to like capitalize on a 292 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 4: Troy team that like really wants you to go in 293 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:31,480 Speaker 4: the mid range and score there. 294 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 1: I'm like, which guard is gonna kill me off the bounce? 295 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 4: Like last year against Kentucky was you know, Butler and 296 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 4: Brea getting in there and making plays and like Garrison 297 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 4: killed them. 298 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 1: I don't know. 299 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 4: I just think Troy's are really good mid major and 300 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 4: I think we're getting thirteen and one of these damn 301 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 4: upsets has to happen, and this is one that I 302 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 4: think is live. 303 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't have the strongest take from it. Against 304 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 2: the spread perspective, I can people a lot of people 305 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 2: are making a case for Troy upsetting Nebraska. The reason 306 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 2: I could see that, the only reason I can see that. 307 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 2: I mean, Troy they had some wild results. I mean 308 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 2: they went the triple overtime with a healthy USC. Earlier 309 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 2: this year, they won at San Diego State in double overtime. 310 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 2: You know, they beat Akron, But over the past month 311 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 2: of the season they beat nothing but dregs, and then 312 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 2: in the conference tournament they played a team on playing 313 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 2: four and four days and then six and six days. 314 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 2: They do have like a physical front court that maybe 315 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 2: can give Nebraska problems, but they're not a great three 316 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 2: point shooting team, and you need to be against Nebraska. 317 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 2: They're also super reliant on the offensive glass. Nebraska is 318 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 2: pretty good in the defensive class limiting second chance opportunities. 319 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 2: But I will say there is going to be three 320 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 2: point variants in this game, which is why I could 321 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 2: you could say, okay, there, you know there could be 322 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 2: an upset here. Troy is gonna shoot a ton of threes. 323 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 2: As you mentioned, they're not very good, they're not very efficient. 324 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 2: And then we know in Nebraska games they're going to 325 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 2: shoot a ton of threes. They're eleventh three point right, 326 00:16:56,400 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 2: and they're gonna give up with a ton of threes. 327 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 2: They have the fifth highest three point attempts rate allowed 328 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 2: on defense. So what does that mean Troy's going to 329 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 2: be attempting a ton of threes and what will crash first? 330 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 2: Since February first, Troy shooting thirty percent from three. They 331 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:17,440 Speaker 2: were thirty four percent before then, so maybe some positive 332 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:21,160 Speaker 2: regression looming. They're only twenty eight percent over the past month, 333 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:24,160 Speaker 2: so maybe they're due for a big day. But defensively, 334 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:28,360 Speaker 2: since February first, teams have shot twenty five percent from three. 335 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 2: They were thirty four percent from before. We know investing 336 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:33,160 Speaker 2: can get a ton of threes, So can Troy make 337 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 2: forty percent of their threes here? Forty forty five? Can 338 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:37,120 Speaker 2: they have a big shooting night, then yeah, they're gonna 339 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:40,440 Speaker 2: be in this game. If they're not, and Nebraska gets 340 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:42,959 Speaker 2: hot from three and Troy's turning it over a bit, 341 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:45,359 Speaker 2: Sanford's getting some transition threes. I could see this being 342 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:49,359 Speaker 2: a blowout. So I don't think it's the best matchup 343 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:53,640 Speaker 2: for Troy, but they're going to get their threes up, 344 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:56,160 Speaker 2: and if Campbell and company can get hot, they can 345 00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 2: make this a game. I don't have too strong of 346 00:17:58,000 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 2: a Takekrea, ID give anything to a. 347 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:01,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not playing it against the spread just because 348 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 3: it's I think a huge number and too many people 349 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:07,639 Speaker 3: I respect see the Troy side of this. I don't 350 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:09,960 Speaker 3: see the live dog potential here. 351 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:11,439 Speaker 2: It's pretty simple for me. 352 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 3: I know I'm being very I don't know elementary about it, 353 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:16,480 Speaker 3: but I think it's a terrible matchup for Victor Valdez, 354 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 3: who I love, but he's shooting twenty one percent from 355 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:23,719 Speaker 3: three on ridiculous volume. He's two for twenty four from three. Like, 356 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 3: you get the defense that forces bad shooters to make threes. 357 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 3: That's the whole scheme. Anytime you run up against teams 358 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:33,760 Speaker 3: that are willing shooters that can't make shots, it's a 359 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 3: dream matchup for the Nebraska defense. I basically didn't really 360 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:42,399 Speaker 3: consider Troy just at first glance. Looking at this, maybe 361 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:45,200 Speaker 3: I'll regret that, but one point I would just add 362 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:48,199 Speaker 3: part of the reason I'm kind of just in on Nebraska. 363 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 2: I like their chances to make a little run in 364 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 2: this draw. 365 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:54,440 Speaker 3: I mean we're talking about, like, if they get there, 366 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:57,360 Speaker 3: a Florida Nebraska game could be interesting. 367 00:18:57,440 --> 00:18:59,120 Speaker 2: They're gonna get destroyed on the boards. 368 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 3: But that backcourt that is willing shooters that can't shoot 369 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:05,919 Speaker 3: against that defense. It's like there's a little bit of 370 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 3: a path for some interesting games here. 371 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 2: And everyone's out on. 372 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:11,439 Speaker 3: Nebraska because they had a horrible month to conclude the season. 373 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:13,760 Speaker 3: I think it's a good time to buy low in general. 374 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 3: So I'm staying away for this game against the spread. 375 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:18,680 Speaker 3: I don't think Troy wins the game. 376 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 2: I do have some Nebraska and a bunch of Calcutta's. 377 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:24,160 Speaker 2: Troy will change up defenses a lot with Scott Cross. 378 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 2: I think they're one of the most zone heavy teams 379 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:30,640 Speaker 2: in the field, and they also press. They'll extend pressure 380 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:34,480 Speaker 2: to try and slow you down. Nebraska they don't see 381 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:36,199 Speaker 2: a ton of press obviously in the big ten. They 382 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 2: don't see a ton of zone, but they great down 383 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:41,239 Speaker 2: the ninety seven percentile against zone obviously with all those 384 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:44,680 Speaker 2: shooters and their ball movement, and they have enough ball 385 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:48,639 Speaker 2: handles the handle press, they're ninety eighth percentile against the press. Again, 386 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 2: small sample size, but worth noting. All right, let's move on. 387 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:57,879 Speaker 2: I do think Nebraska is interesting now just because of 388 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:01,120 Speaker 2: the variants nature of them. Well, coach, they just moved 389 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 2: the ball so well. But let's move on to the 390 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 2: third game of the day between South Florida and Louisville. 391 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:11,679 Speaker 2: Louisville's a five and a half point favorite here total 392 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:16,720 Speaker 2: one sixty five and a half. This should be a 393 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:19,000 Speaker 2: track meet two teams that want to get up and 394 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 2: down play very fast. This game is one third Eastern 395 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:28,200 Speaker 2: on TNT and we'll be played in Buffalo, New York. 396 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 2: I've seen tons of hot takes on this South Florida 397 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 2: trendy dog. People. Don't everyone who cares if it's a 398 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 2: trendy dog. If you like it, play it. You guys 399 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:44,120 Speaker 2: both said, I actually rate one one five to ten. 400 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 2: How strong you feel you both are tens on this game. 401 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:51,640 Speaker 2: Ucf rimmen three offense. They get steals, they get offensive 402 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:54,920 Speaker 2: rebound super athletic Isaiah and Nelson as an unlimited motor. 403 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 2: Wes enis Curtisinus's son for those old like me, is 404 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:02,119 Speaker 2: a player. Joseph Pinion very talented player, and Louisville can 405 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:05,480 Speaker 2: be turned over at times, which may get USF in transition. 406 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 2: Louisville's transition d is not great. And here's if you're 407 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 2: looking for an upset. Two red flags or maybe I 408 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:16,159 Speaker 2: should say three. Louisville in like quad one games that 409 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 2: have not been great, like when they've had a step 410 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 2: up three hundred and fifty seventh away from home, three 411 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 2: hundred and sixty third in paper tiger factor, you have 412 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 2: the Michel Brown questions, but at the end of the day, 413 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:30,919 Speaker 2: it's still Louisville. They're gonna shoot a ton of threes, 414 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:34,480 Speaker 2: which is a huge It's going to be a huge 415 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:36,400 Speaker 2: factor in this game. If they're red hot from three, 416 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:41,480 Speaker 2: not sure USF can keep up if they're off. There's 417 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:43,119 Speaker 2: not gonna be much of a difference between these teams from 418 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:47,439 Speaker 2: an athletics standpoint, and USF might have the advantage at 419 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:49,439 Speaker 2: the rim. Krishn, I'll go to you first. What are 420 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:49,960 Speaker 2: you seeing here. 421 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:52,480 Speaker 1: I like USF. 422 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:55,879 Speaker 4: I think ISAA Nelson being such a monster on the 423 00:21:55,920 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 4: glass is huge here, and just his defensive versatility like Louisville, 424 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:04,919 Speaker 4: whether it's true whether it's the Egyptian Magician or Zugris 425 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 4: who they've been using more lately when those guys are 426 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 4: doing the zoom on the perimeter. Like, I just think 427 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:11,720 Speaker 4: Nelson and the way this team has defended over the 428 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:14,400 Speaker 4: past month, like is a good matchup for being able 429 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 4: to just stay with that action and communicate and to 430 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 4: like make guys like mc I mean, Conwell is super good, right, 431 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 4: and he takes a ton of threes, like more than 432 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:27,159 Speaker 4: we've really seen in his career. McNeely, I'm kind of 433 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:31,200 Speaker 4: whatever on Woolly and you know he's all right. I'm 434 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:33,600 Speaker 4: the dude who really I think could kill USF is 435 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:36,640 Speaker 4: Javon Hadley because USF will go with the four guard lineup, 436 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 4: and Hadley has been playing really well. He's turned into 437 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:42,680 Speaker 4: from like kind of a high usage like a glue guy, 438 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:45,959 Speaker 4: into more valusage guy, like he's a he's a matchup nightmare, 439 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:47,719 Speaker 4: as like a kind of face up four who can 440 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:49,440 Speaker 4: step out and shoot it and be physical. 441 00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 1: So he's the one guy I'm scared of. 442 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:55,359 Speaker 4: But in terms of just the guard play in the 443 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:58,399 Speaker 4: offensive spacing, it's very similar between these two teams, and 444 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:01,439 Speaker 4: it's just better. Vibes south Looride. I think Hodgon might 445 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 4: be a better coach than Pat Kelsey. I'm already willing 446 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 4: to say that, And whether they have Mikel or not 447 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 4: doesn't really change my opinion that much, just because he's 448 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:10,440 Speaker 4: been in and out, and sure there was a period 449 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:13,400 Speaker 4: in the middle where they were definitely better with Mikel. 450 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 4: But I'm not sure he comes back and does that. 451 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:17,399 Speaker 4: I don't know how much he cares about playing. Like 452 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 4: people want to question Darren Peterson sart, I'm a little 453 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 4: bit more on. 454 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 2: Does my a game in the past two weeks. 455 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 1: Is Mikel bad teammate? 456 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:28,640 Speaker 4: So I don't know. Maybe his back's just messed up. 457 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:31,400 Speaker 4: Maybe he's gonna play and drop thirty. I don't know, man, 458 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 4: But Nelson's a boss. This team has awesome cameracchry. They're 459 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 4: great on both ends. The game environment's comfortable for them. 460 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 2: I'll take the points, yeah, I mean I do think 461 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:48,719 Speaker 2: that like there's like with Wooley in there, he can 462 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 2: get to the rim. You get more of a driver. 463 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:56,680 Speaker 2: I think MIKEL. Brown like just introduces more variants into 464 00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:59,359 Speaker 2: the game because he could just he's gonna get up 465 00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:01,880 Speaker 2: a ton of three, right, and he could get hot 466 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:05,439 Speaker 2: or if he's so. I don't think it's like drastically 467 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:07,119 Speaker 2: that worse of a team, but there's a little bit 468 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 2: more variance with Brown in there, and a little I 469 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:10,879 Speaker 2: think a little bit of a higher ceiling because of 470 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:12,360 Speaker 2: his talent. Greg, what are you seeing here? 471 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:16,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, I completely think if Mike Hel's there, it does 472 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 3: change the outcome. From my perspective, I think I'd be 473 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 3: surprised if he plays or at least plays at full strength. 474 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 3: I'm with you guys on the confusion, with that bad 475 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:28,119 Speaker 3: vibes all around with Louisville. I am on usf to 476 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:31,080 Speaker 3: win this game. It's a simple pack Helsea fade for me. 477 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:33,120 Speaker 3: It's in the early time slot again, which I feel 478 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 3: like is a gift from the schedule makers. There's gonna 479 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 3: be a little PTSD to last year when they were 480 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:39,680 Speaker 3: like the first or second game and just late. 481 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:41,960 Speaker 2: Yeah. 482 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 3: I just I want no part of pac Helsea in March. 483 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:46,240 Speaker 3: I want no part of this Louisville. 484 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 2: Team right now. 485 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:50,920 Speaker 3: I would also point out that Ryan Comwell historically has 486 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:54,399 Speaker 3: had some stinkers in big moments to end seasons. I 487 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:57,119 Speaker 3: mean you go back even to his early days. He 488 00:24:57,160 --> 00:25:00,159 Speaker 3: had that one for ten game against Seaton Hall a 489 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:03,240 Speaker 3: couple of years ago. He last year three for ten 490 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:05,800 Speaker 3: against Illinois in the tournament when they lost. I just 491 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:09,720 Speaker 3: I don't trust anyone on Louisville to rise to the occasion. 492 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:12,200 Speaker 3: I think you guys laid out the case for why 493 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:14,719 Speaker 3: South Florida should feel confident. I think their athletes are 494 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 3: going to be fine in this game. I love them inside. 495 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 3: I think they can generate some second chances, and I 496 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:21,960 Speaker 3: think they can make enough threes to win a three 497 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:26,400 Speaker 3: point variance game. So I'm on the dog here outright, all. 498 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 2: Right, I will say us I will be on USF 499 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:35,040 Speaker 2: definitely money line in some capacity. ROUND think they're a 500 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 2: good money line piece, Like you're looking to take a 501 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:38,680 Speaker 2: shot of the moneyline dog, just because the variants of Louisville, 502 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:41,480 Speaker 2: the way that USF plays and can match up athletically, 503 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:46,400 Speaker 2: and then you know the questions with Mickel Brown, I'll 504 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 2: probably have USF advancing in my bracket as well. All Right, 505 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:51,240 Speaker 2: let's move on to the fourth game of the day 506 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 2: in the West Region between high Point and Wisconsin. Wisconsin 507 00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:02,760 Speaker 2: is a high Point took some money on open I 508 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 2: think they were from twelve and a half down to 509 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 2: nine and a half. Think it's up to ten ten 510 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:09,080 Speaker 2: and a half now. Wisconsin got a little bit of buyback. 511 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:12,359 Speaker 2: Total one sixty four and a half. Very high total. 512 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:18,119 Speaker 2: This should be a fun game in Portland, Oregon, so 513 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:21,639 Speaker 2: some travel here to consider for both teams. This game's 514 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:27,680 Speaker 2: at one fifty eastern on TBS. I will say, look, 515 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 2: high Point has an elite transition offense, but and their 516 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:34,240 Speaker 2: defense it's much different than last year. Last year was 517 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 2: more Baman drop new coach. They're more aggressive. Now they're 518 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:41,000 Speaker 2: turnover kings. They forced a ton of turnovers. But here's 519 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:44,000 Speaker 2: the thing. Wisconsin doesn't turn it over. They also don't foul. 520 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:47,080 Speaker 2: High Point likes to get to the line, and Wisconsin's 521 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:52,280 Speaker 2: transition defense grades out elite, so that is problematic for 522 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 2: high Point. High Point does have an elite pick and 523 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 2: roll defense, which is important against Wisconsin, but the competition 524 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:00,960 Speaker 2: shaky like that to be mentioned for high Point, they 525 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 2: didn't play a top one hundred opponent all year. I again, 526 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 2: this is these are early games. There's teams that are 527 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:11,600 Speaker 2: have a lot of three point variants. Wisconsin's gonna get 528 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:14,439 Speaker 2: up a lot of threes, and when they're on like, 529 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:16,000 Speaker 2: there's just no way high points canna be able to 530 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,040 Speaker 2: keep up because you're not. They're not gonna get free 531 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:19,680 Speaker 2: points against Wisconsin. They're not gonna be able to get it 532 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:22,399 Speaker 2: on transition as much Wisconsin doesn't turn it over like 533 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:25,359 Speaker 2: I said, AND's gonna get a ton of threes. Are 534 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:27,840 Speaker 2: there are there bigs on? Are they making them? If so, 535 00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 2: I think this is probably trouble for a high point 536 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:33,640 Speaker 2: and they just won't be able to keep up. Should 537 00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 2: be a super high scoring, fun game with lots of runs. 538 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 2: We've seen that, and I mean, look at a lot 539 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:43,119 Speaker 2: of Wisconsin games are live vetting dreams. We saw that 540 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:45,439 Speaker 2: against Illinois they were down fifteen, looks like they were 541 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:47,480 Speaker 2: a goot to get blown out. We saw that against Michigan, 542 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:48,920 Speaker 2: look like they're about to get blown it look like 543 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:50,159 Speaker 2: they were about to blow out Michigan and looked like 544 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:51,840 Speaker 2: they were about to get blown out, and then it 545 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:56,160 Speaker 2: comes down to the final possession in both greg any 546 00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:58,680 Speaker 2: update on no on Winter. 547 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, sounds like they inspect him back. He returned to 548 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 3: practice this week. If it's full strength, full minute load, 549 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:09,000 Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't expect that, but I think 550 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:09,440 Speaker 3: you'll play. 551 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:15,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, he helps with rim protection for sure. So Greg 552 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:17,919 Speaker 2: got let me see, you said you're you're about a 553 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 2: five and then you're kind of luke warm on a 554 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:22,680 Speaker 2: take on this game. What are you saying here? I've 555 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:23,560 Speaker 2: got to play here. 556 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:25,520 Speaker 3: It's not my strongest play by any means, but I 557 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 3: am going to be on high point against the spread. 558 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 3: If you can get it ten and a half, I 559 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:30,200 Speaker 3: think that's a great number. 560 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:33,119 Speaker 2: I just look at a couple things with this. You 561 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:34,280 Speaker 2: mentioned the spot stuck. 562 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:39,960 Speaker 3: This is a weird trip to a ten fifty local 563 00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:43,600 Speaker 3: time tip offs for Wisconsin, who just played three games 564 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 3: in three days at the Big Ten Tournament. High point 565 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:47,960 Speaker 3: has to travel too, I get it, But I just 566 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:51,000 Speaker 3: expect a sleepy, weird environment. 567 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:53,800 Speaker 2: For a off for what two weeks? So yeah, they 568 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:56,600 Speaker 2: at least they've got some rest. I just I don't know. 569 00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:59,040 Speaker 2: And then you add in Christians making fun of me 570 00:28:59,040 --> 00:28:59,880 Speaker 2: before we click record. 571 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:03,240 Speaker 3: We have all these psychological handicaps, especially with the Big 572 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:03,720 Speaker 3: Ten teams. 573 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 2: I watch so much. 574 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:08,800 Speaker 3: This Wisconsin team's draw for this tournament is a death trap. 575 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:11,880 Speaker 3: I mean, they got served a guilla team basically to 576 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:14,840 Speaker 3: go through this game, then potentially Arkansas just to get 577 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 3: to Arizona. Like I feel like they gotta feel like 578 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:20,480 Speaker 3: they took a shotgun to the chest on selection Sunday. 579 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:23,200 Speaker 3: I really do wonder how they're gonna respond to that, 580 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:25,960 Speaker 3: And I think you look at the schematic nature of 581 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:29,360 Speaker 3: this game, high Points, two biggest issues on the defensive 582 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:32,480 Speaker 3: side to me are that they are really vulnerable on 583 00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:35,600 Speaker 3: the boards for second chances, Wisconsin is not going to 584 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:38,000 Speaker 3: crash the glass in a major way. And then the 585 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:41,040 Speaker 3: fact that they usually foul a ton and Wisconsin doesn't 586 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:42,720 Speaker 3: really get to the free throw line all that much. 587 00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:44,080 Speaker 2: They just bomb a bunch of threes. 588 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:47,040 Speaker 3: So I think high points two biggest vulnerabilities aren't really 589 00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:49,120 Speaker 3: gonna be exposed in this game. 590 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:52,880 Speaker 2: Can they win the turnover battle? Probably not against a 591 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 2: Wisconsin backcourt that is so good at taking care of 592 00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:55,760 Speaker 2: the ball. 593 00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,600 Speaker 3: But can they at least force like eight to ten 594 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:00,959 Speaker 3: in this game and cause so problems and get out 595 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:03,560 Speaker 3: in transition? I do think Wisconsin can get lack of 596 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:05,840 Speaker 3: days ago at times and if it's just going to 597 00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:07,960 Speaker 3: be a track meet and high Point can get a 598 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:10,440 Speaker 3: couple turnovers and get out and run, I think they're 599 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:12,000 Speaker 3: gonna hang around in this one. 600 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,760 Speaker 2: I really do. I wouldn't take them on the money line. 601 00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:16,600 Speaker 2: I wouldn't sprinkle it, but if you can get ten 602 00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:19,240 Speaker 2: and a half, I think it's a decent play. Yeah, 603 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:21,040 Speaker 2: I mentioned the game of runs. This might be a 604 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:24,480 Speaker 2: very good live bedding game, especially because the start of 605 00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:26,920 Speaker 2: this game could be very weird because you have you 606 00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:29,360 Speaker 2: mentioned Wisconsin ten to fifty am Local just played three 607 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:31,880 Speaker 2: and three days traveling out to Portland, and they're gonna 608 00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:33,479 Speaker 2: shoot a ton of threes? How do they? How are 609 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 2: their legs early? Like? How are their legs? How are 610 00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 2: they adjusting to the time and in a neutral venue right? 611 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:42,240 Speaker 2: Like are they just ice cold? Like I could see 612 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:45,320 Speaker 2: Wisconsin being down like sixteen to two right six minutes 613 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:46,600 Speaker 2: into the game. Then they go on a big run 614 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:49,600 Speaker 2: on the other end of high Point also new venue, 615 00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:52,280 Speaker 2: also ten fifty am Local on the West coast, New 616 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:54,160 Speaker 2: Venue and they've been off for a week and a half. 617 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:57,560 Speaker 2: So is there a RUSS there or like are they so? 618 00:30:57,920 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 2: I think that the start of this game could be 619 00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:03,720 Speaker 2: weird and you could see one team jump out and 620 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:06,920 Speaker 2: either of these teams can go on big runs. I 621 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:08,240 Speaker 2: think it's gonna be a game of run. So I 622 00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:10,880 Speaker 2: might be looking to bet this game live depending on 623 00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:13,880 Speaker 2: how it goes over the first like five six minutes, 624 00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:17,360 Speaker 2: if there's one team that jumps out, because I don't 625 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:19,400 Speaker 2: think that either one of these teams is going to 626 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:22,760 Speaker 2: get up fifteen and then win by forty, so it 627 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:24,880 Speaker 2: should be a back and forth game. I know you 628 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:26,880 Speaker 2: don't have any strong take on here, Christian anything you 629 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:27,880 Speaker 2: want to add a censor two. 630 00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:29,880 Speaker 1: I like Greg's angle. I love Wisconsin. 631 00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:31,720 Speaker 4: They got screwed with their draw and I think that 632 00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:36,240 Speaker 4: there's like they kind of set up as the team 633 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:39,280 Speaker 4: the random team to get upset. I don't think High 634 00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:40,880 Speaker 4: pointill be able to turn them over. Like Boyd and 635 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:43,040 Speaker 4: Black Bull are just playing on another level right now. 636 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:47,840 Speaker 4: It's more so Wisconsin's shooting bigs is like the wild 637 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:49,760 Speaker 4: card that allowed them to, you know, beat Michigan in 638 00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:54,160 Speaker 4: Illinois Michigan State perdue and really catch such a rhythm 639 00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:57,040 Speaker 4: in Big ten play and High Points not like they 640 00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:58,840 Speaker 4: have these It's not like they have Vodo Vodo like 641 00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:01,400 Speaker 4: last year where it's like this big wrinkle to have 642 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:02,840 Speaker 4: those guys stepping out and shooting it. 643 00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:05,520 Speaker 1: So, I don't know. I think this is. 644 00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:09,000 Speaker 4: A game that could definitely be close, but I'm not 645 00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:12,080 Speaker 4: like jumping to go fad to Wisconsin right now. They're 646 00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:14,840 Speaker 4: just those guards are just dialed right now. And that 647 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:16,280 Speaker 4: wrap heater was unreal. 648 00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:19,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was crazy for me. On the next game, 649 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:22,520 Speaker 2: I'll throw to myself for a word on Robinhood. What 650 00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:26,720 Speaker 2: if sports were traded like markets? Now you can put 651 00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:30,160 Speaker 2: your sports IQ to work in real time with Robinhood 652 00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:34,200 Speaker 2: Prediction Markets. It's not you against the house, it's you 653 00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:38,040 Speaker 2: participating in a live market. 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Thought that 671 00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:47,400 Speaker 2: was outrageous. One of my favorite bets the vers round 672 00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:48,840 Speaker 2: Siena plus twenty nine and a half. I think it's 673 00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:50,640 Speaker 2: come down to tick twenty and I still like it there. 674 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:54,120 Speaker 2: This line is crazy to me. Now, Duke win by 675 00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:57,080 Speaker 2: forty shore, But how many possessions are going to be 676 00:33:57,120 --> 00:34:03,360 Speaker 2: in this game? Number one? I mean, Duke. Sianna is 677 00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:07,400 Speaker 2: super slow. They're a complete snail. Duke is very slow 678 00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:11,759 Speaker 2: as well. I do not think Foster and GUNGNM are 679 00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:13,879 Speaker 2: going to play. Why would you rush Gungba back here? 680 00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:15,759 Speaker 2: I don't, and he's not even doing any on court 681 00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:17,480 Speaker 2: activities here. I think there's a chance he plays in 682 00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:20,920 Speaker 2: round two. But Duke's not the same team. We saw that, 683 00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:23,200 Speaker 2: and we saw these crazy numbers in the ACC tournament, 684 00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:25,319 Speaker 2: Like they opened eight and a half against Virginia that 685 00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:27,640 Speaker 2: got bet down to six. They opened eighteen and a 686 00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:31,000 Speaker 2: half against Florida State that got bet down. Like these 687 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:36,319 Speaker 2: are like peak full strength Duke numbers and Sienna. Look, 688 00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:39,080 Speaker 2: they can't they cannot get in foul trouble here. They 689 00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:41,280 Speaker 2: have no depth right now. They've blasically played five guys 690 00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:43,719 Speaker 2: in the MAC tournament, but they generally do a good 691 00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:46,960 Speaker 2: job of defending without failing. As long as they do that, Gavin, 692 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:49,479 Speaker 2: as long as Gavin Doti or Justice Schulitz don't don't 693 00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:52,800 Speaker 2: get inflautrouble in the first six minutes, which is definitely 694 00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:55,600 Speaker 2: concerned against Boozer. But I would just like say, hey, 695 00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:58,040 Speaker 2: Boozer is gonna get his when he gets near the room, 696 00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:00,799 Speaker 2: is about the dunk. It just don't touch him. Then 697 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:02,759 Speaker 2: I think they can hit enough mid range jumpers and 698 00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:05,680 Speaker 2: keep this slowed, this game down to State within thirty. 699 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:07,960 Speaker 2: This line is crazy. I think Sean is more of 700 00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:11,000 Speaker 2: a fifteen than a sixteen. And you know they did 701 00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:13,560 Speaker 2: lose Antonio Chandler, but their two point defense been much 702 00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:15,800 Speaker 2: better with a seven footer in there. And ry Riley 703 00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:19,960 Speaker 2: Molby the Iowa transfer. He was outstanding in the mac tournament. 704 00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:24,280 Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean, Gavin Doti's a scorer like he's 705 00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:26,600 Speaker 2: and shots can score in the mid range. Their top 706 00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:30,520 Speaker 2: forty team in mid range attempt and mid range field 707 00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:32,520 Speaker 2: goal percentage. And that's where Duke click lets you live 708 00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:35,120 Speaker 2: and wants you to live. And the other key thing 709 00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:40,680 Speaker 2: Brendan Coyle, who was did not lost from three point line. 710 00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:42,440 Speaker 2: I mean, this was a forty percent three point shooter 711 00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:45,880 Speaker 2: last year, lost all of his confidence. Well over the 712 00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:49,200 Speaker 2: past month he's found a shot again. He went five 713 00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:52,600 Speaker 2: of nine, five of twelve, two of seven. I mean, 714 00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:54,239 Speaker 2: this is a guy who was going like, oh of seven, 715 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:57,080 Speaker 2: two of ten this year. He's shooting twenty nine percent, 716 00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:59,359 Speaker 2: but over the past four or five games he's at 717 00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:01,840 Speaker 2: forty percent. He has more confidence. Just a couple of 718 00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:05,719 Speaker 2: those threes goes a long way. And the other thing 719 00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:08,719 Speaker 2: Duke has all these like these injuries, they're not gonna 720 00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:10,759 Speaker 2: like care if they're up, you know, to push this 721 00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:15,239 Speaker 2: so if needed, and Sanna doesn't have that, Sana's gonna 722 00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:18,080 Speaker 2: play their guys the whole game. If needed the back 723 00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:20,520 Speaker 2: door win, the back door opportunity is gonna be huge. 724 00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:23,680 Speaker 2: Like if they're down thirty five with four to go, 725 00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:29,200 Speaker 2: Duke's bringing in all the reserves and Siantle will play 726 00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:31,440 Speaker 2: it out with their starters and they you know, they 727 00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:35,080 Speaker 2: could finish on a twelve to two run. So if 728 00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:38,239 Speaker 2: needed the back door, with opportunities massive here, but just 729 00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:42,600 Speaker 2: low possession game, I think this is way too many points. 730 00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:46,440 Speaker 2: There's a chance Sienna's like up in this game with 731 00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:49,480 Speaker 2: like ten in and then like an ugly game as 732 00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:51,480 Speaker 2: long as they hit a couple of shots. Now they're 733 00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:54,879 Speaker 2: not gonna win, but they can keep this within twenty five. 734 00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:57,239 Speaker 2: I know you guys don't know any takes here, any 735 00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:59,080 Speaker 2: anything you want to add, Greg, I. 736 00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:01,640 Speaker 3: Would be on the dog for everything you just laid 737 00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:03,600 Speaker 3: out if I was on this, But Duke is my 738 00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:06,120 Speaker 3: title pick and I really want no part of stip 739 00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:08,080 Speaker 3: stepping in front of them at any point in this tournament. 740 00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:12,000 Speaker 2: Of course, you do you have anything you want to add? Nope, 741 00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:17,440 Speaker 2: all right, let's move on to head back to the 742 00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:20,680 Speaker 2: South for the next game on the slate between McNeice 743 00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:25,200 Speaker 2: and Vanderbilt in a five twelve matchup three fifteen Eastern 744 00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:27,839 Speaker 2: on True TV. People make sure you find where your 745 00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:29,520 Speaker 2: True TV is. Again, it's that time of the year. 746 00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:34,120 Speaker 2: There's no more. I mean, I guess everyone should know 747 00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:36,879 Speaker 2: now there's here's games on True TV throughout the year. 748 00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:40,000 Speaker 2: But what was that show? There was a show, an 749 00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:43,279 Speaker 2: awful show that it was so scripted, but I would 750 00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:47,400 Speaker 2: always end up watching some of it Repo. What was 751 00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:51,439 Speaker 2: it called Operation Repo? Does anyone remember how that horrendous show? 752 00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:54,120 Speaker 1: I swear it's always in Practical Jokers that comes on. 753 00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:56,279 Speaker 2: Now, this is like, this is like a I don't know, 754 00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:58,279 Speaker 2: maybe like five six years ago, and it was like 755 00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:02,680 Speaker 2: this stage show where they these these guys would go 756 00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:04,520 Speaker 2: and like repost someone's car and then they would like 757 00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:08,239 Speaker 2: there would be like a stage fight, and dude, Greg, 758 00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:10,360 Speaker 2: do you remember the show? I vaguely remember. 759 00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:12,080 Speaker 3: I have no idea what it's called, but I remember 760 00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:13,360 Speaker 3: it being on constantly. 761 00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:21,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, Well anyway, Vanderbilt mcneise. Vanderbilt took a 762 00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:23,080 Speaker 2: little bit of money on Open eleven and a half 763 00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:27,120 Speaker 2: point favorite total, pretty steady around one fifty and a half. 764 00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:30,319 Speaker 2: You both have very very strong takes on this game. 765 00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:36,640 Speaker 2: You said so before I did, well, I'll share a 766 00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:38,560 Speaker 2: quick overview of this game. It should be a lot 767 00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:41,040 Speaker 2: of fouls. Both defenses filed both offenses, so a lot 768 00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:43,520 Speaker 2: of fouls. Both teams are good at the line. This 769 00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:47,520 Speaker 2: is similar to High Point Wisconsin in that McNeese look. 770 00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:51,319 Speaker 2: They're underscreening, they switch, they gamble, they help, they're very 771 00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:54,760 Speaker 2: aggressive on defense. There are a transition and the Rimmer 772 00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:58,319 Speaker 2: line offense. So as a result, but here's the thing. 773 00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:01,520 Speaker 2: Just similar to High Point wisconn't like IP one wants 774 00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:05,200 Speaker 2: to steal aggressive, Vandy doesn't turn it over. McNeese is 775 00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:07,480 Speaker 2: gonna press a lot. You don't really You're gonna press 776 00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:13,880 Speaker 2: Tanner and Miles. So it's gonna be hard for McNeice 777 00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:16,560 Speaker 2: to get many transition opportunities when they do, Andandy's transition 778 00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:20,239 Speaker 2: d isn't great. But Dandy can handle the press here, 779 00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:24,960 Speaker 2: which I think is massive. Now, Vandy's defense does force 780 00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:27,080 Speaker 2: you to work in isolation. McNeese is pretty comfortable there. 781 00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:29,320 Speaker 2: I mean, they have high level athletes. That's one of 782 00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:31,000 Speaker 2: the reasons Vandy struggled a bit with Old Miss. Like 783 00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:34,680 Speaker 2: Ole Miss is comfortable in isolation. That's basically their entire offense. Uh, 784 00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:37,319 Speaker 2: McNeice is fine working when they have to work in 785 00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:40,799 Speaker 2: the half court, working in isolation, but Dandy's gonna get 786 00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:43,239 Speaker 2: a ton of open threes here, Like the aggressive underscreening 787 00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:46,800 Speaker 2: by McNeice gives you a ton of threes three looks. 788 00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:50,759 Speaker 2: And Bandy is an elite jump shooting team who's like 789 00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:54,600 Speaker 2: du for just a red hot day because McNee is 790 00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:56,319 Speaker 2: gonna just try to take away the rim right by 791 00:39:56,400 --> 00:40:00,520 Speaker 2: underscreening induced jump shots. So I mean Vandy else ninety 792 00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:05,200 Speaker 2: seven percentile open catch and shoot frequency that they're open 793 00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:08,000 Speaker 2: catch and shoot frequency when they get open looks ninety 794 00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:09,719 Speaker 2: seven percentile, So they're gonna have a ton of open 795 00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:12,919 Speaker 2: looks here if they're hitting and they're hot. I don't 796 00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:15,279 Speaker 2: think McNeice can keep up here because they're just not 797 00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:17,239 Speaker 2: going to get the easy buckets in transition and they're 798 00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:20,320 Speaker 2: not going to turn Vandy over. Uh. But if Andy's 799 00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:22,279 Speaker 2: off all right, Vandy's not gonna kill them on the 800 00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:25,120 Speaker 2: offensive glass, which they're also vulnerable let because of their 801 00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:30,000 Speaker 2: aggressive d So again probably comes down to Vandy shooting. 802 00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:31,839 Speaker 2: But I know you guys have hot takes on this. Greg. 803 00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:34,360 Speaker 2: I'll start with you what he's saying, yeah. 804 00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:37,960 Speaker 3: I'm gonna be on the dog here and uh from following. 805 00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:42,399 Speaker 2: Post post hide by. Remember last year everyone was on mcneise. Now, yeah, 806 00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:43,919 Speaker 2: a lot of love for McNeese. 807 00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:47,120 Speaker 3: The year after the year, the we weren't just will 808 00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:51,760 Speaker 3: Wade storyline here, right, I like it. 809 00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:53,080 Speaker 2: Funny, we'll wait, We'll wait in the plane and McNeice 810 00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:55,000 Speaker 2: McNeese not amazing. 811 00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:58,799 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think, Uh, look, I I have not been 812 00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:01,120 Speaker 3: as high on van and as I think both of 813 00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:04,160 Speaker 3: you guys have been throughout the year. I'm fully expecting 814 00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:06,200 Speaker 3: Christians strong side to be on the opposite side of 815 00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:10,120 Speaker 3: me here in a moment. Someone, Yeah, I here's my 816 00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:15,759 Speaker 3: sort of stance on this. I think McNeice is arguably 817 00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:18,400 Speaker 3: the best mid major in this tournament, and they're not 818 00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:22,440 Speaker 3: really being discussed that way for some reason. Eleven and 819 00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:24,479 Speaker 3: a half's a lot of points here for a team 820 00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:27,719 Speaker 3: that is sixty eighth on Ken Palm, that has high 821 00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:30,480 Speaker 3: major caliber athletes in a lot of spots here. I mean, 822 00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:33,440 Speaker 3: Garway Dull and Larry Johnson are guys that should be 823 00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:36,600 Speaker 3: playing in power conferences in art and are at mcneise 824 00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:39,560 Speaker 3: and have had great years in I don't know, I 825 00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:42,760 Speaker 3: just think we talk so much about like, well, Vandy's 826 00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:46,040 Speaker 3: not going to turn it over. This is the number 827 00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:49,960 Speaker 3: one steel forcing team in the country, right like they could, 828 00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:51,560 Speaker 3: and if they do, all of a sudden, you take 829 00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:54,400 Speaker 3: away one of Andy's superpowers. I fully agree they're going 830 00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:56,919 Speaker 3: to get open threes in this game. But I don't 831 00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:59,799 Speaker 3: know a team with a bunch of plus athletes that 832 00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:03,480 Speaker 3: kind of play chaotic defensively, that have some size that 833 00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:06,200 Speaker 3: can frustrate Tyler Tanner. I don't think that's who I 834 00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:08,839 Speaker 3: would want to see if I was a Vanderbilt believer here. 835 00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:12,040 Speaker 2: Then when mcneice's on offense, like they can beat up. 836 00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:14,640 Speaker 3: Vandy in a couple of areas where Vandy's really vulnerable, 837 00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:18,040 Speaker 3: they can generate second chances here. They can get to 838 00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:20,040 Speaker 3: the free throw line a ton in this game, I think, 839 00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:22,560 Speaker 3: and Vandy fouls a lot, So I see eleven and 840 00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:25,359 Speaker 3: a half is just too many points. I really am 841 00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:28,120 Speaker 3: flirting with taking the money line here. I think this 842 00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:31,160 Speaker 3: is a live dog, but I'll be safely on mcneesse 843 00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:32,080 Speaker 3: plus eleven and a half. 844 00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:34,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm right down. I'm leaning Vandy. I mean here, 845 00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:38,600 Speaker 2: this is a good nugget from Matthew Winnick a good 846 00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:42,400 Speaker 2: follow on Twitter, which kind of speaks to the growing 847 00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:45,840 Speaker 2: gap of you know, yeah, high majors versus mid majors. 848 00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:49,440 Speaker 2: You look at the five to twelve matchups, five twelves 849 00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:52,839 Speaker 2: are all Power Conference versus mid majors. Top twenty five, 850 00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:56,680 Speaker 2: top one hundred mid majors in matchups this year. Of 851 00:42:56,719 --> 00:43:00,000 Speaker 2: that top twenty five Power Conference teams, top one hundre 852 00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:02,719 Speaker 2: mid majors, the Power Conference teams are twelve and zero 853 00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:07,239 Speaker 2: with a plus nineteen average margin of victory. Almost all 854 00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:10,560 Speaker 2: of them were complete blowouts, and McNeese just wasn't the 855 00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:12,000 Speaker 2: same team this year. You look at the results when 856 00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:16,759 Speaker 2: they couldn't force turnovers even against you know, subpar competition. 857 00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:22,239 Speaker 2: The other thing worth noting McNeese shot the three. They 858 00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:24,479 Speaker 2: were a very good home team this year and thrive 859 00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:27,000 Speaker 2: in Lake Charles and their aggressive defense thrives at home. 860 00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:29,319 Speaker 2: They shot the three seven and a half percent better 861 00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:32,680 Speaker 2: at home this year than away from home. Christian, I 862 00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:35,600 Speaker 2: know you love Andy. You want to make your case 863 00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:36,479 Speaker 2: and add anything here. 864 00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:37,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, let's talk. 865 00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:40,040 Speaker 4: So this is our third straight This is our third 866 00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:41,760 Speaker 4: straight year of McNeese in the tournament. 867 00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:43,040 Speaker 1: What happened to year one. 868 00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:45,719 Speaker 4: McNeese enters the tournament thirty and three, which, by the way, 869 00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:47,680 Speaker 4: that was the year that they won at VCU at 870 00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:51,080 Speaker 4: UAB at Michigan before the wheels completely fell off. 871 00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:53,279 Speaker 1: They started to fall off there under do you want it? 872 00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:54,480 Speaker 1: Sorry to bring that up, Greg, but. 873 00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:57,040 Speaker 4: Anyways, I was one of the idiots that talked myself 874 00:43:57,080 --> 00:43:59,800 Speaker 4: into McNeice plus six and a half against Gonzaga, and 875 00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:03,600 Speaker 4: Zaga came out there and said, screw your defensive turnover eight, 876 00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:07,440 Speaker 4: screw your Shahada wells isoball. We're going to destroy you 877 00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:08,920 Speaker 4: because we're a well coached team. We're not going to 878 00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:12,160 Speaker 4: get punked by the AAU All Stars of Last Chance, 879 00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:14,000 Speaker 4: you of dudes who got kicked out of their school. 880 00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:16,120 Speaker 1: Okay, and what happened last year? 881 00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:20,280 Speaker 4: Clemson scored thirteen points in the first half and still 882 00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:25,440 Speaker 4: only lost by what by two points? They scored thirteen points. 883 00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:29,239 Speaker 4: It was Jayden Zachary just missing spot up threes and 884 00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:30,680 Speaker 4: actually shot he shot well. 885 00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:31,560 Speaker 1: In the second half. 886 00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:33,680 Speaker 4: Whatever, Clemson literally couldn't hit a shot. And then what 887 00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:36,120 Speaker 4: happens when they played a well coached team with a 888 00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:39,680 Speaker 4: Ryan Nemhard, Braiden Smith type point guard. Perdue got out 889 00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:42,880 Speaker 4: early and controlled the entire game. Tyler Tanner is in 890 00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:45,760 Speaker 4: that category of a Braiden Smith or a Ryan Emhard 891 00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:47,520 Speaker 4: where he's not going to be rattled. 892 00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:48,720 Speaker 1: By the AAU All Stars. 893 00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:51,279 Speaker 4: And yes, I understand that's a good point Stucky about 894 00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:52,600 Speaker 4: them being comfortable in isolation. 895 00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:56,680 Speaker 1: And you know, uh kind of like all. 896 00:44:56,640 --> 00:45:00,000 Speaker 4: Miss and like mckney's runs some very simple stuff. 897 00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:04,120 Speaker 1: Offensively, it's ball screen, go go hoop, go score. 898 00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:07,960 Speaker 4: And Vandy just played Arkansas and I think Darius Acoff 899 00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:10,400 Speaker 4: is a little bit better than these McNeese dudes. And 900 00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:13,120 Speaker 4: if Trevon Brazili and Billy Richmond didn't get hot, Vandy's 901 00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:15,520 Speaker 4: an SEC champion and probably a three seed the committee 902 00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:17,480 Speaker 4: so damn lazy. They probably would have just like did 903 00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:19,280 Speaker 4: a little flip flop if they had won that game. 904 00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:22,520 Speaker 4: So Vanderbilt is a ridiculously good five seed. They crushed 905 00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:25,040 Speaker 4: everyone in non conference. They took care of bad teams. 906 00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:27,120 Speaker 4: I will say the Memphis game is like a slight 907 00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:30,560 Speaker 4: at Memphis is real tough. That's like somewhat comparable to 908 00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:33,560 Speaker 4: the McNeese thing maybe, But like they took care of 909 00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:37,000 Speaker 4: everybody in non con like, I don't know, man, I 910 00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:38,680 Speaker 4: think they're so good. I don't think they're gonna get 911 00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:40,560 Speaker 4: punked by the AAU All Stars. And I think this 912 00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:44,440 Speaker 4: McNeese thing is just a facade. That Clemson game was 913 00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:46,880 Speaker 4: like the ugliest thing I've ever seen, Like the least 914 00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:50,560 Speaker 4: likable and endearing upset I can remember in my entire life. 915 00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:52,440 Speaker 1: And it's not happening against Vanderbilt. That was against a 916 00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:53,640 Speaker 1: Clemson team with one guard. 917 00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:58,800 Speaker 2: Sorry I'm done, Yeah, I mean I'm leaning Vandy for 918 00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:07,880 Speaker 2: no other reason than ah to uh see uh Aura 919 00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:11,560 Speaker 2: khan ah sulk. 920 00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:13,120 Speaker 1: Wait one last it's. 921 00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:16,440 Speaker 2: We're gonna get stories on this kid. But with the 922 00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:18,279 Speaker 2: with the radio again, I'm over it. 923 00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:21,040 Speaker 1: Well okay, like just real quick. 924 00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:23,279 Speaker 4: I sometimes get persuaded by oh, they got like the 925 00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:25,759 Speaker 4: Down Cup, they got the Down transfers and Power Conference. Yeah, 926 00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:28,399 Speaker 4: Jirell Colbert fell out of rotation at SMU. That's why 927 00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:31,520 Speaker 4: he's at McNeice. Like Larry Johnson got kicked out of creating. 928 00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:33,359 Speaker 4: He can definitely hoop. He super talented. He can dunk 929 00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:35,440 Speaker 4: whatever guard you all got kicked off the team and 930 00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:38,279 Speaker 4: see you all like it's it's last chance you it's 931 00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:40,560 Speaker 4: the we're more talented than their teams in the Southland. 932 00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:43,520 Speaker 4: And guess what team played them really well in the Southland, 933 00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:45,960 Speaker 4: ut Real Grande Valley because Khalil Fenal is a real 934 00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:49,000 Speaker 4: good coach. That's an offensive skilled team. They they that 935 00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:50,600 Speaker 4: game went triple overtime in the Southland. 936 00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:53,160 Speaker 2: You they can shoot, Yeah, they. 937 00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:55,600 Speaker 4: Can shoot, and they're not They're like, they're not gonna 938 00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:57,960 Speaker 4: get pumped and McNeice just wants to punk. 939 00:46:57,680 --> 00:47:03,719 Speaker 2: You or con all right, let's move on. You haven't 940 00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:09,279 Speaker 2: seen Vanny get punk this year like Texas And I. 941 00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:12,080 Speaker 3: Think acting like this team is unpunkable because they're well coach, 942 00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:13,040 Speaker 3: just a little crazy. 943 00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:14,800 Speaker 2: Texas destroyed them. 944 00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:17,759 Speaker 4: Texas floor is a lot lower than that was a 945 00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:20,440 Speaker 4: four point game with eight minutes left, and it was 946 00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:24,719 Speaker 4: a road game and they were undefeated at the time. Yeah, 947 00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:27,319 Speaker 4: I mean that's the NBA players on that team and 948 00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:29,600 Speaker 4: a team that draws fouls more than anyone in the country. 949 00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:33,600 Speaker 2: Sure, I mean did I will? I will also say 950 00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:36,919 Speaker 2: that that is like Texas team, the offense that's very, 951 00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:40,200 Speaker 2: very comfortable in ISO. So that's that is the one 952 00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:40,839 Speaker 2: thing that does worry. 953 00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:43,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean if Larry Johnson, Gary duall go for 954 00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:45,719 Speaker 4: thirty each and Vandy doesn't shoot the three, well, they're 955 00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:46,200 Speaker 4: gonna lose. 956 00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:49,320 Speaker 1: I just I'm willing to take to trust the boys. 957 00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:54,279 Speaker 2: I'm obviously, I mean there are like we'll see all like, 958 00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:56,359 Speaker 2: Tanner's got to handle the length better than he did 959 00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:58,759 Speaker 2: against Arkansas. But it's very nice to have this is 960 00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:01,200 Speaker 2: where do you have in Duke Miles huge having that second 961 00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:04,239 Speaker 2: ball handler? And but all right, let's be on to 962 00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:11,200 Speaker 2: the next game. Hawaii taking on Arkansas in the West 963 00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:17,399 Speaker 2: Region four twenty five Eastern tip on TBS. This game 964 00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:23,719 Speaker 2: is We'll be played in Portland, Oregon, Arkansas fifteen and 965 00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:29,280 Speaker 2: a half point favor total one sixty one and a half. 966 00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:31,799 Speaker 2: All right, Greg, I know you don't have any hot 967 00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:33,920 Speaker 2: takes on this game. I'll get a sentence from me 968 00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:37,359 Speaker 2: if you have it. After I'm going back and forth 969 00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:39,480 Speaker 2: in this game. I still haven't decided. I think this 970 00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:42,239 Speaker 2: is a it's just a tough spot for Arkansas. Right 971 00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:46,120 Speaker 2: they played three and three days they win the SEC championship. Yeah, 972 00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:50,240 Speaker 2: they they had all of their brick layers went shot 973 00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:52,840 Speaker 2: seventy percent from three against Bandy like that had I 974 00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:55,440 Speaker 2: don't know if that's necessarily repeatable. Cal Pari has been 975 00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:57,920 Speaker 2: out coached countless times in the tournament. I mean he's 976 00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:00,000 Speaker 2: two and eight against the spread as a fifteen plus 977 00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:01,960 Speaker 2: point favor For what it's worth, he's four and nine 978 00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:04,719 Speaker 2: against the spread with a minus four and a half 979 00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:08,080 Speaker 2: point cover margin on average. When he has a seven 980 00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:11,319 Speaker 2: plus seed differential in the first round. That's the worst 981 00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:14,160 Speaker 2: of all time, the least profitable, I should say, right 982 00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:17,840 Speaker 2: there with Mark Feu for what it's worth. And you 983 00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:20,719 Speaker 2: want to talk about three point like a game where 984 00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:25,320 Speaker 2: there could be some potential three point regression, I mean 985 00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:31,719 Speaker 2: it's screams screams ha whai. So if you look since 986 00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:36,920 Speaker 2: February first, Hawaii shot twenty eight percent from three. They 987 00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:38,520 Speaker 2: are not a good shooting team, but they were about 988 00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:42,719 Speaker 2: thirty three and a half percent before February first. Additionally, 989 00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:46,560 Speaker 2: if you look on the defense of that end, teams 990 00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:48,879 Speaker 2: against Hawai, who limits threes as well as any team 991 00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:50,920 Speaker 2: in the country, teams have shot thirty five percent since 992 00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:52,680 Speaker 2: February first. Before then it was twenty seven and a 993 00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:55,120 Speaker 2: half percent. So maybe a natural correction there, but they've 994 00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:59,680 Speaker 2: been unlucky since February first. Two way on the three Arkansas. Meanwhile, 995 00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:04,080 Speaker 2: I mean this team has been they've shotten forty two 996 00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:06,520 Speaker 2: and a half percent from three since February first. Now 997 00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:08,640 Speaker 2: are they a good shooting team? Of course, I mean 998 00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:11,640 Speaker 2: Akoff has shoots fifty percent on catching shoot threes is insane. 999 00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:16,000 Speaker 2: But there are other dorks, like they're not gonna keep 1000 00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:19,360 Speaker 2: hitting threes. And you know, like Billy Richmond is like 1001 00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:23,080 Speaker 2: an eighteen percent three point shooter. Uh, you know, you 1002 00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:26,560 Speaker 2: can expect Wagner around thirty three percent. Brazil is what 1003 00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:28,719 Speaker 2: I don't know, probably around thirty three percent. You can 1004 00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:31,520 Speaker 2: expect them over time. So when if they shoot nine 1005 00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:35,160 Speaker 2: of twelve, those three combined, yeah, there Archanel's gonna blow Hawaii. Now, 1006 00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:39,759 Speaker 2: Hawaii plays a very very very unique defense in that 1007 00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:45,040 Speaker 2: it's the most disciplined drop. They never help, so they 1008 00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:49,319 Speaker 2: limit threes. They have a Fish Johnson who's a very 1009 00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:52,719 Speaker 2: interesting seven footer. Maybe can give Arkansas some problems, but 1010 00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:56,680 Speaker 2: that's gonna result in a lot of ISO for Thomas 1011 00:50:56,719 --> 00:51:00,319 Speaker 2: and Acuff, which is probably not ideal. But there's a 1012 00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:06,359 Speaker 2: chance that Hawaii throws out some unique zone here and 1013 00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:09,479 Speaker 2: just I think we'll have some unique defensive looks and 1014 00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:12,200 Speaker 2: if there's one coach who's never ready for a unique 1015 00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:15,080 Speaker 2: defensive look in the tournament. It's coach cal I can 1016 00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:19,279 Speaker 2: tell you that it's a Kentucky fan. So what with 1017 00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:22,640 Speaker 2: all this is said, like Arkansas has has too much talent? Did? 1018 00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:25,840 Speaker 2: The guard mismatch is huge? Now, Arkansas doesn't force a 1019 00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:29,080 Speaker 2: lot of turnovers. That's good news for Hawaii because Hawaii 1020 00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:32,239 Speaker 2: will turn it over their guards. Their point guard play 1021 00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:35,799 Speaker 2: is not great. I mean they play in the Big 1022 00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:38,759 Speaker 2: West and they ranked three hundred and seventeenth in the 1023 00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:42,040 Speaker 2: country and turnover rate. Now, the good thing Arkansas is 1024 00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:44,600 Speaker 2: not an overly aggressive defense. It's not a great defense 1025 00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:48,240 Speaker 2: in general. You know, they ranked two hundred and fortieth 1026 00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:50,920 Speaker 2: in turn of rate, but it's it's still the Arkansas 1027 00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:56,200 Speaker 2: length against Hawaii. So my fear is Hawaii turning it 1028 00:51:56,239 --> 00:51:58,560 Speaker 2: over is gonna Now why is a great transition defense 1029 00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:00,239 Speaker 2: on paper? Now, again, they play in the Big Now, 1030 00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:03,000 Speaker 2: there's some teams that get out and run all day, 1031 00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:07,040 Speaker 2: your your Fulagins and Northridges, but this is that's not Arkansas. 1032 00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:08,680 Speaker 2: You're not playing against NBA guards. So my fear is 1033 00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:11,600 Speaker 2: just Hawaii turning it over incessantly. And then Arkansas is 1034 00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:14,719 Speaker 2: gonna score. It will in transition. But I do think 1035 00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:16,759 Speaker 2: that there's a path here whe Hawaii makes this really 1036 00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:21,360 Speaker 2: interesting for a half and then just has Arkansas and 1037 00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:24,880 Speaker 2: a little bit of a tiffy offensively and they're not prepared, 1038 00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:27,880 Speaker 2: and then the talent will eventually just take over. So 1039 00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:31,000 Speaker 2: I might be looking at like Hawaii sneaky Hawaii first 1040 00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:34,799 Speaker 2: half plus eight and a half first half money line. 1041 00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:38,520 Speaker 2: I could see Arkansas being down by you know, a 1042 00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:43,839 Speaker 2: couple at the half. But yeah, I guess I'm leaning 1043 00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:49,440 Speaker 2: Hawaii right now. But the turnovers concerned me because it's 1044 00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:53,120 Speaker 2: Arkansas would just eat them in transition and then you're 1045 00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:55,279 Speaker 2: just gonna have a cuff in isolation and there's no 1046 00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:57,239 Speaker 2: one that in Hawaii that can guard them. So I'm 1047 00:52:57,320 --> 00:52:59,640 Speaker 2: very curious to see what if Hawaii changes up their 1048 00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:05,120 Speaker 2: defense bit. So we shall see. Uh, Christian, you have 1049 00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:05,719 Speaker 2: a tatake here. 1050 00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:07,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1051 00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:10,000 Speaker 4: I have a kind of greg psychological angle here of 1052 00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:13,719 Speaker 4: Arkansas like kind of on top of the world, Like 1053 00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:16,040 Speaker 4: they know how good they are, they're so talented, they're 1054 00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:19,160 Speaker 4: playing really well, and now you're just like, how do 1055 00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:21,360 Speaker 4: you get up for like Hawaii. 1056 00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:23,440 Speaker 2: Early tip in Portland after three and three days, so 1057 00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:25,360 Speaker 2: like yeah, and Hawaii. By the way, he's traveling from Vegas, 1058 00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:27,320 Speaker 2: so it's not they're not traveling from Hawaii. 1059 00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:30,560 Speaker 4: Right, So just like a bit of a sleepy spot. 1060 00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:33,600 Speaker 4: And like with cal and you know, I don't know 1061 00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:36,239 Speaker 4: post char Acter Vanderbilt. He he just says so many 1062 00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:38,120 Speaker 4: weird things sometimes I just question, like where the team. 1063 00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:40,080 Speaker 4: He's like, we're not playing for the name on the 1064 00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:41,759 Speaker 4: front of our jersey, We're doing it for the back, 1065 00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:44,000 Speaker 4: like it's about these kids. Stuff like that. 1066 00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:44,600 Speaker 2: Like I don't know. 1067 00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:45,680 Speaker 1: He just says some weird things. 1068 00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:49,680 Speaker 4: And while in theory like Acuff, like nobody can guard Acuff, 1069 00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:53,000 Speaker 4: he will get whatever he wants schematically, like I agree, 1070 00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:54,840 Speaker 4: we could see some zone and we saw that obviously 1071 00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:58,120 Speaker 4: with Oakland Kentucky. And two I'm old enough to remember 1072 00:53:58,160 --> 00:54:01,040 Speaker 4: when in November Arkansas. Arkansas didn't have a single head 1073 00:54:01,080 --> 00:54:03,280 Speaker 4: scratching loss this year, right, Their worst losses were at Auburn, 1074 00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:06,279 Speaker 4: out Georgia and SEC play. They're head scratching games to 1075 00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:08,600 Speaker 4: me were when they played Sanford and Winthrop very close 1076 00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:10,920 Speaker 4: at home. And Sanford and Winthrop are teams that have 1077 00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:15,719 Speaker 4: lowessistory allowed, like not Hawaii level of the commitment to 1078 00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:18,799 Speaker 4: the deep drop but similar schemes, and Arkansas only had 1079 00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:22,600 Speaker 4: thirteen assists in both those games, and that just makes 1080 00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:26,480 Speaker 4: me think, you know, there's a world where Hawaii can 1081 00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:29,640 Speaker 4: can definitely keep this close. And and you know the 1082 00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:32,960 Speaker 4: you're still down Knox, which is another I still think 1083 00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:34,200 Speaker 4: they're better with him. 1084 00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:35,520 Speaker 1: It's a sleepy spot. 1085 00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:38,319 Speaker 4: It's a very solid defensive team from a league that 1086 00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:41,000 Speaker 4: has like historically done well in this league. And it's 1087 00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:43,680 Speaker 4: fifteen points. I totally think Hawaii could be up, behalf 1088 00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:46,960 Speaker 4: and could be live. This could be that one. Like 1089 00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:51,160 Speaker 4: we talk about how these thirteen through fifteen seeds like 1090 00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:54,080 Speaker 4: they're all huge dogs, and it looks like we. 1091 00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:55,759 Speaker 1: Might not get one this year. There's gonna be one 1092 00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:56,520 Speaker 1: random one. 1093 00:54:56,719 --> 00:54:58,919 Speaker 4: And I can't like sell you because if they play 1094 00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:00,680 Speaker 4: this game one hundred times, Arkans I was gonna. 1095 00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:02,879 Speaker 1: Win eighty of them, ninety of them. 1096 00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:06,040 Speaker 4: But totally think this is one that I've got my 1097 00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:08,520 Speaker 4: antenna up for something weird could happen. 1098 00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:12,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, one thing I do know is Arkansas will be unprepared. 1099 00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:16,200 Speaker 2: All right, let's move on to the next game. 1100 00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:22,880 Speaker 3: You have one sentence I think barring Hawaii abandoning the 1101 00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:25,120 Speaker 3: no health defense that has like been the story of 1102 00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:30,120 Speaker 3: their season. Darius Acuff's a nightmare matchup for them. He's 1103 00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:32,520 Speaker 3: probably just going to torch them in isolations all game. 1104 00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:35,759 Speaker 2: Have forty, so I play a price, but I think 1105 00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:38,320 Speaker 2: Hawaii would be fine if he had four. Like whatever, 1106 00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:41,680 Speaker 2: get your forties when you get forty anyway. 1107 00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:43,200 Speaker 4: But can't you adjust, Like are you really going to 1108 00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:45,799 Speaker 4: be that close to Billy Richmond when a Cuff is 1109 00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:46,720 Speaker 4: like going crazy? 1110 00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:49,080 Speaker 2: No, I think that they're they're going to have to adjust. 1111 00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:50,880 Speaker 1: And that's probably the zone he went. 1112 00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:55,520 Speaker 2: Zone against Fullarton, So like they have changed at times, 1113 00:55:57,360 --> 00:56:01,279 Speaker 2: don't have They'll have early wrinkles, but all right, let's 1114 00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:03,120 Speaker 2: be won in the next game. I mean, a Coff's 1115 00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:05,520 Speaker 2: gonna go crazier, but like wouldn't he's gonna go crazy 1116 00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:10,279 Speaker 2: against it doesn't go crazy against every defense. So in 1117 00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:13,080 Speaker 2: a way, like if you've got to help a little bit, 1118 00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:16,640 Speaker 2: and then you just like dork Billy Richmond, but you're 1119 00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:20,560 Speaker 2: you're you're not like losing your mind if Akoff gets forty. 1120 00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:25,680 Speaker 2: So but it's all why he has to limit the turnovers. 1121 00:56:26,040 --> 00:56:28,640 Speaker 2: That's key because that's been a problem for them all year. 1122 00:56:28,680 --> 00:56:32,359 Speaker 2: Their point guard play is very shaky. All right, let's 1123 00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:34,719 Speaker 2: be one in the next game VCU in North Carolina 1124 00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:37,640 Speaker 2: six to fifty Eastern on TNT in the South Region. 1125 00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:40,120 Speaker 2: Super fascinating six eleven matchup. 1126 00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:40,279 Speaker 4: VC. 1127 00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:41,880 Speaker 2: You gets in on the final day by winning the 1128 00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:43,960 Speaker 2: A ten. This game will be in Greenville, South Carolina, 1129 00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:46,279 Speaker 2: So you might get there's some VCU fans, but you 1130 00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:49,080 Speaker 2: definitely have a bigger UNC presence. UNC two and a 1131 00:56:49,080 --> 00:56:51,680 Speaker 2: half point favorite. Here been some back and forth in 1132 00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:54,560 Speaker 2: the market total down a tick to one fifty three 1133 00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:58,880 Speaker 2: and a half VCU. They have an identity in coaches. Man, 1134 00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:01,920 Speaker 2: you look at all their coaches, back to Shaka or 1135 00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:07,520 Speaker 2: odes Odem Martelli. Now Martelli is adopted what VS has 1136 00:57:07,520 --> 00:57:10,399 Speaker 2: always been. They're gonna have great athletes, and they're gonna press, 1137 00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:12,720 Speaker 2: and they're gonna pressure you. One of the heaviest presses 1138 00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:18,520 Speaker 2: in the tournament. Here. The interesting how this game is 1139 00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:20,640 Speaker 2: called He's whistled was going to be important. I think 1140 00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:22,560 Speaker 2: because UNC doesn't really fail. VCU wants to get to 1141 00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:26,160 Speaker 2: the line attack the room. VSU funnels you to the rim, 1142 00:57:27,160 --> 00:57:29,160 Speaker 2: where they have a lot of length. They're rim, So 1143 00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:31,680 Speaker 2: I think this is where UNC could really miss Caleb Wilson. 1144 00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:35,440 Speaker 2: It's not the same caliber or frequency of a rim 1145 00:57:35,480 --> 00:57:41,040 Speaker 2: attacking offense without Wilson. But an interesting fact is that 1146 00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:46,880 Speaker 2: you don't want like VS is gonna press and try 1147 00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:49,960 Speaker 2: to you know, cause this game to be a little chaotic. 1148 00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:53,280 Speaker 2: U n C grades out super elite against the press. 1149 00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:56,000 Speaker 2: They have ball handlers. Their ninety seven percent against the press, 1150 00:57:56,840 --> 00:57:58,800 Speaker 2: and one of their best games they played, they played 1151 00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:01,200 Speaker 2: some fucking awful zone. For what I mean awful press 1152 00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:04,880 Speaker 2: is like with Syracuse press them or Georgia Tech, like 1153 00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:07,960 Speaker 2: there's a lot of bad press. But they went to Virginia, 1154 00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:11,520 Speaker 2: who presses a lot, and they scored one point four 1155 00:58:11,560 --> 00:58:13,880 Speaker 2: points per possession in press offense. And guess who was 1156 00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:17,760 Speaker 2: the guess who has a similar structured defense. Well, guess 1157 00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:19,840 Speaker 2: with the coach of Virginia who was at Virginia Tech 1158 00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:24,000 Speaker 2: VCU last year. So UNC did go into Virginia and 1159 00:58:24,040 --> 00:58:27,400 Speaker 2: win andhredded the press and pressure defense from Virginia. For 1160 00:58:27,440 --> 00:58:29,960 Speaker 2: what it's worth, Greg, I know you have a very 1161 00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:32,160 Speaker 2: hot take on this game. I'm leading VCU this game. 1162 00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:36,320 Speaker 2: This game is this should be a thriller like this 1163 00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:39,560 Speaker 2: will be I think last team at the ball wins. 1164 00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:40,919 Speaker 2: What are you saying here? 1165 00:58:41,240 --> 00:58:44,240 Speaker 3: Really fun game? I'm gonna be on VCU out right here. 1166 00:58:44,520 --> 00:58:48,200 Speaker 3: I don't love the press numbers, that's real. 1167 00:58:48,360 --> 00:58:49,600 Speaker 2: I mean I remember. 1168 00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:54,680 Speaker 3: Visitably watching them eviscerate the Virginia press. That scares me. 1169 00:58:54,720 --> 00:58:56,880 Speaker 3: It's a bad data point for this game, but just 1170 00:58:57,240 --> 00:58:59,240 Speaker 3: point playing to me. Since Wilson's went down, I don't 1171 00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:01,640 Speaker 3: think UNC is anywhere near the caliber they were before. 1172 00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:05,640 Speaker 3: They're forty ninth in adjusted offensive efficiency, fiftieth in defensive 1173 00:59:05,640 --> 00:59:07,160 Speaker 3: efficiency since that injury. 1174 00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:09,479 Speaker 2: To me, they're an overseateed team. 1175 00:59:09,680 --> 00:59:12,640 Speaker 3: Where they're at, you have to play the value in 1176 00:59:12,680 --> 00:59:15,680 Speaker 3: the NCAA tournament, and for them to be favored when 1177 00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:18,080 Speaker 3: that's the caliber they've been playing overall down the stretch 1178 00:59:18,120 --> 00:59:21,280 Speaker 3: for a month, I just think it's a live dog situation. 1179 00:59:21,720 --> 00:59:24,080 Speaker 3: I think Djokovic is good enough to at least play 1180 00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:25,040 Speaker 3: with THEYSAR. 1181 00:59:25,160 --> 00:59:26,520 Speaker 2: He can stretch them out a little. 1182 00:59:26,360 --> 00:59:29,600 Speaker 3: Bit, and I think that's a matchup you feel comfortable 1183 00:59:29,600 --> 00:59:32,360 Speaker 3: at least in matching the scoring with. And then bottom line, 1184 00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:34,320 Speaker 3: I like us to use guards more. I mean, I 1185 00:59:34,360 --> 00:59:37,680 Speaker 3: think Derek Dixon's had a good season. He's been a 1186 00:59:37,720 --> 00:59:39,240 Speaker 3: big part of why I think they've been able to 1187 00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:42,400 Speaker 3: effectively handle pressure defense. But at the same time, it's 1188 00:59:42,440 --> 00:59:44,760 Speaker 3: the true freshman his first NCAA tournament game with a 1189 00:59:44,760 --> 00:59:46,520 Speaker 3: lot on his plate without his superstar. 1190 00:59:46,960 --> 00:59:48,320 Speaker 2: I think Nick Lewis is coming on. 1191 00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:51,400 Speaker 3: He just had an awesome monster game in the conference tournament. 1192 00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:54,240 Speaker 3: So I'll take VCU outright, just on a value play. 1193 00:59:54,280 --> 00:59:56,240 Speaker 3: With Carolina not being the same since the injury. 1194 00:59:57,760 --> 01:00:01,760 Speaker 2: Hear something crazy on North Carolina. Here's my bets on 1195 01:00:01,840 --> 01:00:06,320 Speaker 2: North Carolina. I've bet five straight North Carolina games. I've 1196 01:00:06,320 --> 01:00:08,000 Speaker 2: been fading them. I don't think the market is properly 1197 01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:14,120 Speaker 2: adjusting for Kayla Wilson. Here's how they've went. I bet them, uh, 1198 01:00:16,480 --> 01:00:18,680 Speaker 2: I bet them against I should say four straight. I 1199 01:00:18,680 --> 01:00:23,520 Speaker 2: bet Va Tech plus seven. It pushed. I bet Clemson 1200 01:00:23,560 --> 01:00:29,640 Speaker 2: plus four, it pushed. I bet Clemson minus one in 1201 01:00:29,680 --> 01:00:33,919 Speaker 2: the ACC tournament. It pushed. And then I had Duke 1202 01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:38,360 Speaker 2: minus fifteen and a half. Uh, and that lost on 1203 01:00:38,520 --> 01:00:41,439 Speaker 2: like or seven. I think minus seventeen and a half. 1204 01:00:41,800 --> 01:00:44,320 Speaker 2: That lost on like the ridiculous back Door by a 1205 01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:46,880 Speaker 2: point and a half. I'm oh three and one, I 1206 01:00:46,880 --> 01:00:50,440 Speaker 2: mean oh one and three against the spread, all and 1207 01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:52,240 Speaker 2: with the games were decided by total of one and 1208 01:00:52,240 --> 01:00:58,000 Speaker 2: a half points. So if I bet this game, the 1209 01:00:58,040 --> 01:01:00,520 Speaker 2: only thing, the most important thing to me is the hook. 1210 01:01:00,680 --> 01:01:04,960 Speaker 2: Otherwise it's gonna push Chris, do you have anything you 1211 01:01:04,960 --> 01:01:05,560 Speaker 2: want to add here? 1212 01:01:06,880 --> 01:01:07,560 Speaker 1: I agree with Greg. 1213 01:01:07,640 --> 01:01:09,919 Speaker 4: I'm just kind of out on Carolina without VCU. I'm 1214 01:01:09,920 --> 01:01:13,000 Speaker 4: sorry without klob and I just think VCU has better guards. 1215 01:01:13,360 --> 01:01:16,360 Speaker 4: Too much Dixon, too much, Trembles, too inconsistent. I'm just 1216 01:01:16,920 --> 01:01:17,600 Speaker 4: I'm just out. 1217 01:01:18,040 --> 01:01:20,520 Speaker 2: Hopefully Bogo Watch doesn't turn into Steph Curry like he 1218 01:01:20,560 --> 01:01:24,000 Speaker 2: did against Clemson. All right, let's move on to the 1219 01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:28,200 Speaker 2: next game, Greg, let's go head to head. Actually, no, 1220 01:01:28,320 --> 01:01:31,760 Speaker 2: that's that's we have. We have some games in between, Uh, Greg, 1221 01:01:31,800 --> 01:01:33,520 Speaker 2: and you're looking to fade BYU. I would I would 1222 01:01:33,520 --> 01:01:36,320 Speaker 2: tend to agree. We have the Michigan whoever they're going 1223 01:01:36,400 --> 01:01:39,760 Speaker 2: to decide to eviscerate. Uh. Those will be the games 1224 01:01:39,960 --> 01:01:42,840 Speaker 2: at seven ten and seven twenty five. But we're gonna 1225 01:01:42,880 --> 01:01:45,240 Speaker 2: move ahead to matchups. We know Texas A and M 1226 01:01:45,280 --> 01:01:47,920 Speaker 2: Saint Mary's seven thirty five Eastern on True TV. SA 1227 01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:50,000 Speaker 2: Mary's tow and a half point favorite total one and 1228 01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:53,240 Speaker 2: a half. It's the Contrast Bowl, like You couldn't ask 1229 01:01:53,320 --> 01:01:59,000 Speaker 2: for bigger contrasts and styles than this particular game. Saint 1230 01:01:59,040 --> 01:02:01,480 Speaker 2: Mary's wants to grow this to an absolute halt like 1231 01:02:01,480 --> 01:02:04,680 Speaker 2: did it against Bandy? Similar vibes here, I mean same Mary's. 1232 01:02:04,680 --> 01:02:06,560 Speaker 2: What do they just play pressure SEC teams every year 1233 01:02:06,720 --> 01:02:09,320 Speaker 2: in the field and then same and then Texa A 1234 01:02:09,320 --> 01:02:10,680 Speaker 2: and M wants to make this game of circus and 1235 01:02:10,720 --> 01:02:13,320 Speaker 2: they're gonna press, throw out, maybe throw off them zone 1236 01:02:13,320 --> 01:02:16,360 Speaker 2: although Saint mary has been elite zone offense this year 1237 01:02:17,520 --> 01:02:19,480 Speaker 2: now and they want to pressure you. They want to 1238 01:02:19,680 --> 01:02:23,880 Speaker 2: turn this game into a circus. Who wins like Randy 1239 01:02:23,880 --> 01:02:28,080 Speaker 2: Bennett or Bucky I will say Saint Mary's did struggle 1240 01:02:28,200 --> 01:02:30,640 Speaker 2: some with the Santa Clair pressure this year a couple 1241 01:02:30,640 --> 01:02:35,920 Speaker 2: of times. That's the best comp league camp. But the 1242 01:02:35,920 --> 01:02:38,680 Speaker 2: Texas A and M defense is not. They've stopped causing turnovers. 1243 01:02:38,680 --> 01:02:41,240 Speaker 2: Their turnover rates since February first is drop six and 1244 01:02:41,280 --> 01:02:45,200 Speaker 2: a half percent since prior to February first. That's problematic. 1245 01:02:45,680 --> 01:02:48,760 Speaker 2: Uh Mary should live on the offensive glass here, but 1246 01:02:48,880 --> 01:02:50,880 Speaker 2: the press might like take them out of their offense 1247 01:02:50,960 --> 01:02:53,960 Speaker 2: right and then then not allow them to get into 1248 01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:56,120 Speaker 2: their sets. But if they can just get shots off 1249 01:02:56,120 --> 01:02:58,480 Speaker 2: and not turn it over. They're probably gonna get a 1250 01:02:58,480 --> 01:03:01,680 Speaker 2: ton of offensive rebounds here and some nice looks at the rim, 1251 01:03:02,640 --> 01:03:04,880 Speaker 2: so a lot. I mean, this is this is just 1252 01:03:05,040 --> 01:03:09,520 Speaker 2: like the biggest contrast you could imagine. You both are. 1253 01:03:11,480 --> 01:03:14,400 Speaker 2: What do we do? I not have this stame written 1254 01:03:14,440 --> 01:03:17,320 Speaker 2: down now you're oh, Christian, you're right, you said one 1255 01:03:17,360 --> 01:03:19,280 Speaker 2: to ten your take on this game. You're a fifteen. 1256 01:03:20,400 --> 01:03:21,600 Speaker 2: So what do you like here? 1257 01:03:22,520 --> 01:03:23,520 Speaker 1: I don't even know what I like. 1258 01:03:23,640 --> 01:03:26,000 Speaker 4: It's just it's the most interesting matchup on the slate, 1259 01:03:26,040 --> 01:03:28,080 Speaker 4: and I've just been thinking about it NonStop. And what's 1260 01:03:28,080 --> 01:03:29,960 Speaker 4: so interesting is this is the same thing that happened 1261 01:03:30,040 --> 01:03:32,640 Speaker 4: last year because I was like, they were playing Vandy 1262 01:03:32,680 --> 01:03:35,560 Speaker 4: in the first round and I was like, oh, it's 1263 01:03:35,600 --> 01:03:38,680 Speaker 4: gonna be death for Vandy, like having to deal with 1264 01:03:38,680 --> 01:03:41,160 Speaker 4: those guys in the post, slowing the game down, taking 1265 01:03:41,200 --> 01:03:41,920 Speaker 4: care of the ball. 1266 01:03:42,760 --> 01:03:44,680 Speaker 1: And what happened. 1267 01:03:44,680 --> 01:03:46,919 Speaker 4: Saint Mary's dragged him through mud fifteen to fifty six. 1268 01:03:47,440 --> 01:03:49,280 Speaker 4: Saint Mary's couldn't hit a three, though they're much breth 1269 01:03:49,280 --> 01:03:51,560 Speaker 4: three point shooting team this year, and I have to 1270 01:03:51,600 --> 01:03:54,440 Speaker 4: make everything about Vandy. I'm sorry, but basically Vandy, it 1271 01:03:54,480 --> 01:03:56,280 Speaker 4: was just a lot of Jason Edwards having to like 1272 01:03:56,640 --> 01:04:01,960 Speaker 4: make stuff happen and you know, fouling, and but essentially 1273 01:04:02,040 --> 01:04:04,520 Speaker 4: Saint Mary's was able to set that pace right, Vandy 1274 01:04:04,560 --> 01:04:07,720 Speaker 4: couldn't really speed the game up. What happened when Vandy 1275 01:04:07,720 --> 01:04:10,000 Speaker 4: and Saint Mary's played this year it was ninety six 1276 01:04:10,080 --> 01:04:14,080 Speaker 4: seventy one in the Bahamas because you know, Washington and 1277 01:04:14,160 --> 01:04:18,200 Speaker 4: mcloughton and Okaarake can space the floor. You know, Duke 1278 01:04:18,680 --> 01:04:20,840 Speaker 4: and Tyler were cooking. That was when they had Frankie 1279 01:04:20,880 --> 01:04:22,920 Speaker 4: two and they and they caused havoc. They turned the 1280 01:04:22,960 --> 01:04:25,520 Speaker 4: Saint mary The ball over like fifteen times and Josh 1281 01:04:25,600 --> 01:04:28,640 Speaker 4: Dent was coughing it up. So what happens in this 1282 01:04:28,680 --> 01:04:32,160 Speaker 4: matchup is A and M able to use their shooting 1283 01:04:32,240 --> 01:04:34,320 Speaker 4: and having Ag at the five and Clemens in there, 1284 01:04:34,320 --> 01:04:36,000 Speaker 4: who I know they've been starting the last few games 1285 01:04:36,280 --> 01:04:38,120 Speaker 4: to really spread it out and create enough space for 1286 01:04:38,160 --> 01:04:40,160 Speaker 4: their drivers to get to the ram and make things 1287 01:04:40,200 --> 01:04:43,160 Speaker 4: work in a half court setting. Or is it just 1288 01:04:43,160 --> 01:04:44,880 Speaker 4: going to be a nightmare having to deal with the 1289 01:04:44,880 --> 01:04:48,000 Speaker 4: bigs tapping out the offensive rebounds. Wessels and mckieva are 1290 01:04:48,040 --> 01:04:50,520 Speaker 4: really skilled down there, and this team can actually shoot it. 1291 01:04:50,600 --> 01:04:52,960 Speaker 4: So last year, Vandy would double the post to kick 1292 01:04:53,000 --> 01:04:54,680 Speaker 4: it out to Morawskis and he'd hit the side of 1293 01:04:54,720 --> 01:04:57,320 Speaker 4: the backboard or you know, it would be whoever. But 1294 01:04:57,400 --> 01:04:59,720 Speaker 4: now this team can actually shoot because they freed Mikey Lewis. 1295 01:04:59,720 --> 01:05:02,880 Speaker 4: Morales is a better shooter and Dylan Shaw can shoot too, 1296 01:05:03,280 --> 01:05:07,920 Speaker 4: So I think Saint Mary's is better equipped to deal 1297 01:05:07,960 --> 01:05:10,080 Speaker 4: with this pressure type team. And what happened with Vandy 1298 01:05:10,120 --> 01:05:13,280 Speaker 4: and the Bahamas that was obviously Vandy just elite. But 1299 01:05:13,320 --> 01:05:14,720 Speaker 4: I think there is a world where A and M 1300 01:05:14,760 --> 01:05:17,160 Speaker 4: can really speed this thing up, make it so make 1301 01:05:17,200 --> 01:05:21,080 Speaker 4: it Sat Mary's uncomfortable. They just haven't seen any team 1302 01:05:21,280 --> 01:05:24,440 Speaker 4: like tex A and M since Vanderbilt in November. 1303 01:05:24,480 --> 01:05:28,320 Speaker 2: Like a player is kind of similar Clara pressures extends pressure. Yeah, but. 1304 01:05:30,360 --> 01:05:33,280 Speaker 4: Alan Graves gives you that age, that mcgloughton type of 1305 01:05:33,720 --> 01:05:37,160 Speaker 4: big but in terms of just skill of the guards 1306 01:05:37,360 --> 01:05:41,320 Speaker 4: and ability to to make things happen when they are 1307 01:05:41,360 --> 01:05:44,320 Speaker 4: stuck in the half court, like it's still with with 1308 01:05:44,400 --> 01:05:47,160 Speaker 4: Isaac's and Lane and and Griffin and Domingaz. 1309 01:05:46,720 --> 01:05:47,840 Speaker 1: There's still a lot of shooting. 1310 01:05:48,200 --> 01:05:49,800 Speaker 4: I have no idea what to do, so I'm sorry 1311 01:05:49,800 --> 01:05:53,280 Speaker 4: for leading with the fifteen I keep swaying myself to, oh, like, 1312 01:05:53,400 --> 01:05:54,680 Speaker 4: let's just lean with the Bucky ball. 1313 01:05:54,720 --> 01:05:55,480 Speaker 1: They're more talented. 1314 01:05:55,480 --> 01:05:57,760 Speaker 4: It's gonna be insane, but it's gonna be fun and 1315 01:05:57,760 --> 01:05:58,640 Speaker 4: we're gonna rock with it. 1316 01:05:58,920 --> 01:06:00,600 Speaker 1: Or same. Mary's just gonna the air of the ball. 1317 01:06:00,680 --> 01:06:02,120 Speaker 1: Dent's gonna take it. 1318 01:06:02,200 --> 01:06:04,120 Speaker 4: And like I said, they're going to actually make their 1319 01:06:04,160 --> 01:06:05,960 Speaker 4: open threes this year, and like last year, they're also 1320 01:06:06,000 --> 01:06:07,240 Speaker 4: the best free throw shooting. 1321 01:06:06,920 --> 01:06:09,960 Speaker 1: Team in the country Saint Mary's this year, which. 1322 01:06:09,760 --> 01:06:14,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, man, how is this whistled? That's important? But Team 1323 01:06:14,880 --> 01:06:17,480 Speaker 2: Mary's also since February firs, they're shooting forty three percent 1324 01:06:17,560 --> 01:06:20,400 Speaker 2: from three. That's the best in the field. They were 1325 01:06:20,440 --> 01:06:22,600 Speaker 2: thirty seven percent before. This is still really good, but 1326 01:06:23,760 --> 01:06:24,760 Speaker 2: been definitely running a bit. 1327 01:06:24,800 --> 01:06:26,560 Speaker 4: And also to your point, Stucky about text A and 1328 01:06:26,680 --> 01:06:30,560 Speaker 4: M's turnover eight being way down lately, very important. But 1329 01:06:31,440 --> 01:06:35,880 Speaker 4: something to consider is just like now they're out of 1330 01:06:35,880 --> 01:06:38,160 Speaker 4: the SEC. The SEC was had some teams that were 1331 01:06:38,240 --> 01:06:43,160 Speaker 4: really good taking care of the ball. Vanderbilt Arkansas will miss. 1332 01:06:43,760 --> 01:06:47,720 Speaker 1: You know, is Joshua Dent on that level of able 1333 01:06:47,760 --> 01:06:48,360 Speaker 1: to handle those. 1334 01:06:48,480 --> 01:06:50,680 Speaker 4: They're going to trap that first pass every time, like 1335 01:06:50,920 --> 01:06:53,760 Speaker 4: it is hell to go against So when I can 1336 01:06:53,960 --> 01:06:56,400 Speaker 4: convince myself of why Saint Mary's is going to be 1337 01:06:56,440 --> 01:06:58,640 Speaker 4: too much to overcome down low around the block and 1338 01:06:58,680 --> 01:07:01,000 Speaker 4: the open threes, they're gonna be able to get in 1339 01:07:01,040 --> 01:07:03,200 Speaker 4: the drop coverage, making it just tough for like Hill 1340 01:07:03,240 --> 01:07:05,240 Speaker 4: and Lane to get anything around the rim. Then I 1341 01:07:05,320 --> 01:07:07,640 Speaker 4: come back to but bucket ball is insane, and it's 1342 01:07:07,680 --> 01:07:09,680 Speaker 4: like they're gonna drive them nuts and they're gonna make 1343 01:07:09,680 --> 01:07:11,520 Speaker 4: it even impossible for those seven footers to get the 1344 01:07:11,560 --> 01:07:12,880 Speaker 4: ball and be so scrappy. 1345 01:07:13,320 --> 01:07:16,200 Speaker 1: So I'm just gonna lose sleep over this game for 1346 01:07:16,200 --> 01:07:18,919 Speaker 1: the next few days. But it's the most interesting game 1347 01:07:18,960 --> 01:07:19,640 Speaker 1: on the slate to me. 1348 01:07:20,520 --> 01:07:24,760 Speaker 2: You know, I could see this, I could see similar vibes. 1349 01:07:25,040 --> 01:07:27,440 Speaker 2: I could see that the game. I could see this 1350 01:07:27,520 --> 01:07:31,600 Speaker 2: game playing out similar to like they wouldn't shock me 1351 01:07:31,640 --> 01:07:36,840 Speaker 2: if this happened. Mary's kind of controls the game, getting 1352 01:07:36,840 --> 01:07:40,080 Speaker 2: offensive rebounds, get into the line, and they keep it 1353 01:07:40,080 --> 01:07:46,640 Speaker 2: in like the sixties, And does this remind anyone of 1354 01:07:49,760 --> 01:07:52,480 Speaker 2: Northern Iowa, Texas A and M and Northern i was 1355 01:07:52,560 --> 01:07:54,920 Speaker 2: up sixty nine to fifty seven with forty four seconds 1356 01:07:54,960 --> 01:07:57,520 Speaker 2: to go and lost, So like I could see Mary's 1357 01:07:57,520 --> 01:08:00,600 Speaker 2: being in control like the turn but like A makes 1358 01:08:00,640 --> 01:08:03,080 Speaker 2: a furious push with the press and gets turnovers late, 1359 01:08:03,440 --> 01:08:06,640 Speaker 2: this game could get weird late, one of the craziest 1360 01:08:06,640 --> 01:08:10,800 Speaker 2: comebacks in NCAA history. Can I get my thoughts on this? 1361 01:08:11,000 --> 01:08:14,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, I am all over Saint Mary's here, all over it. 1362 01:08:14,360 --> 01:08:16,479 Speaker 3: I want no part of Bucky Ball, or at least 1363 01:08:16,560 --> 01:08:20,240 Speaker 3: not with this particular group of players. I think it 1364 01:08:20,320 --> 01:08:24,080 Speaker 3: is the most interesting stylistic matchup. However, I think Randy 1365 01:08:24,080 --> 01:08:26,880 Speaker 3: Bennett's a great coach, and I think with days to 1366 01:08:26,920 --> 01:08:29,360 Speaker 3: prep for this, they are going to figure it out 1367 01:08:29,400 --> 01:08:31,920 Speaker 3: and solve it. I think they can get a bunch 1368 01:08:31,960 --> 01:08:34,920 Speaker 3: of second chances. I think this Texas A and M 1369 01:08:34,960 --> 01:08:37,080 Speaker 3: team has been terrible. For two months. 1370 01:08:37,439 --> 01:08:40,439 Speaker 2: They're three and nine versus NCAA tournament teams. This year. 1371 01:08:40,640 --> 01:08:42,719 Speaker 2: They're one and six versus NCAA tournament teams. 1372 01:08:42,680 --> 01:08:48,280 Speaker 3: Since February first, they just got absolutely dogged by Porter Moser, 1373 01:08:49,040 --> 01:08:51,240 Speaker 3: Like I just want no part of this. And you 1374 01:08:51,240 --> 01:08:52,680 Speaker 3: look at some of the guys in this team, like 1375 01:08:52,920 --> 01:08:54,600 Speaker 3: who do you want to put your stock in in 1376 01:08:54,640 --> 01:08:58,479 Speaker 3: an NCAA tournament setting like pop Isaacs, Like just this 1377 01:08:58,479 --> 01:09:00,639 Speaker 3: this is not the group of guys for the chaotic 1378 01:09:00,720 --> 01:09:02,840 Speaker 3: system to work. I think they get a bunch of 1379 01:09:02,880 --> 01:09:06,479 Speaker 3: credit for their one buckety ball NCAA tournament appearance where 1380 01:09:06,479 --> 01:09:08,000 Speaker 3: they took Kansas to the wire. 1381 01:09:08,240 --> 01:09:08,559 Speaker 4: There was a. 1382 01:09:08,600 --> 01:09:12,040 Speaker 3: Kansas team that visibly hated each other that had no 1383 01:09:12,200 --> 01:09:14,759 Speaker 3: success for three years. Like that was the right group 1384 01:09:14,800 --> 01:09:18,320 Speaker 3: for buckyball to work against. Saint Mary's is not at all. 1385 01:09:18,439 --> 01:09:20,680 Speaker 3: I think this team's too disciplined. I think they are 1386 01:09:20,760 --> 01:09:23,560 Speaker 3: just gonna feast on a very undisciplined Texas A and 1387 01:09:23,680 --> 01:09:26,120 Speaker 3: M team and create some separation here. 1388 01:09:26,479 --> 01:09:29,559 Speaker 4: Wait, Greg just made a really good point that I 1389 01:09:29,560 --> 01:09:32,799 Speaker 4: didn't think of until he said it. In that Vanderbil 1390 01:09:32,840 --> 01:09:34,560 Speaker 4: game they lost by twenty five November. That was on 1391 01:09:34,600 --> 01:09:37,320 Speaker 4: a one day prep in an MT versus four days 1392 01:09:37,320 --> 01:09:38,200 Speaker 4: to prep for bucket ball. 1393 01:09:38,240 --> 01:09:41,400 Speaker 1: That's very different. Yeah, for sure, I think that might be. 1394 01:09:41,640 --> 01:09:43,680 Speaker 1: That might be Greg might have just pushed me over 1395 01:09:43,680 --> 01:09:45,080 Speaker 1: to the Saint Mary's. But it's gonna be. 1396 01:09:45,320 --> 01:09:47,840 Speaker 4: It's gonna piss me off though, And I'm watching just 1397 01:09:47,880 --> 01:09:51,000 Speaker 4: the ten ol run. Oh I had another set ready. 1398 01:09:51,240 --> 01:09:53,360 Speaker 4: So A and M is sixteenth in the country with 1399 01:09:53,400 --> 01:09:56,880 Speaker 4: twenty nine kill shots. Saint Mary's has given up only 1400 01:09:56,920 --> 01:10:00,680 Speaker 4: four all year, only Arizona, Michigan in Utah Valley have 1401 01:10:00,760 --> 01:10:01,960 Speaker 4: given up less kill shots. 1402 01:10:02,920 --> 01:10:05,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I will say yeah, anim has not 1403 01:10:05,000 --> 01:10:07,639 Speaker 2: been great. The thing with Oklahoma is they have they 1404 01:10:07,800 --> 01:10:10,559 Speaker 2: don't turn it over. They have very good backcourt, can 1405 01:10:10,560 --> 01:10:13,240 Speaker 2: handle pressure, styles, do make fights. So Ken Mary's handle 1406 01:10:13,280 --> 01:10:16,040 Speaker 2: the pressure. That's That's what I think. This will come 1407 01:10:16,040 --> 01:10:21,240 Speaker 2: down to very interesting game schematically. By the way, what 1408 01:10:21,320 --> 01:10:25,080 Speaker 2: is March don for? Obviously college hoops, spring training, baseball, Yeah, 1409 01:10:25,120 --> 01:10:26,920 Speaker 2: that too, but it's also known as the time when 1410 01:10:26,920 --> 01:10:28,639 Speaker 2: we have one of the absolute best deals on Action 1411 01:10:28,840 --> 01:10:31,439 Speaker 2: Pro of the entire year. Head over to Actionetwork dot 1412 01:10:31,520 --> 01:10:33,439 Speaker 2: Com slash Pro today to get six months of pro 1413 01:10:33,479 --> 01:10:35,800 Speaker 2: for forty nine to ninety nine. 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Headed to the Lights late 1421 01:10:53,600 --> 01:10:58,320 Speaker 2: nine to twenty five Eastern Penn Illinois Illinois laying twenty 1422 01:10:58,320 --> 01:11:00,439 Speaker 2: four and a half total one point fifteen and a half. 1423 01:11:01,439 --> 01:11:04,960 Speaker 2: Can TJ Power recreate some magic? Pen comes back late 1424 01:11:05,000 --> 01:11:09,240 Speaker 2: against Harvard, forces overtime and wins, comes back late against Yale, 1425 01:11:09,240 --> 01:11:13,040 Speaker 2: who inexplicably didn't foul, and wins in overtime. TJ Power 1426 01:11:13,080 --> 01:11:18,040 Speaker 2: went for forty four the ex Virginia and Duke transfer. 1427 01:11:19,240 --> 01:11:22,200 Speaker 2: A little bit of positive news on Penn's front pen 1428 01:11:22,439 --> 01:11:25,679 Speaker 2: last weekend was without one of its better offensive players, 1429 01:11:25,760 --> 01:11:30,120 Speaker 2: and Pan today said that Ethan Roberts, who are leading 1430 01:11:30,160 --> 01:11:36,759 Speaker 2: score by zero point one over power, is back and 1431 01:11:36,760 --> 01:11:39,680 Speaker 2: and practicing his concussion issues, so we'll see if he 1432 01:11:39,720 --> 01:11:42,240 Speaker 2: can go. That would give a boost their offense. I 1433 01:11:42,280 --> 01:11:46,639 Speaker 2: think Illinois destroys Ben. I will be on Illinois. I'm 1434 01:11:46,640 --> 01:11:49,040 Speaker 2: trying to this line got bet really early. I'm trying 1435 01:11:49,040 --> 01:11:50,760 Speaker 2: to see like if this is going to come back 1436 01:11:50,800 --> 01:11:52,800 Speaker 2: down a little bit, it's gonna be some buyback and 1437 01:11:52,840 --> 01:11:56,400 Speaker 2: then maybe with the pen injury news. But I just 1438 01:11:56,439 --> 01:11:59,920 Speaker 2: think Illinois number one, Illinois, if they're gonna hit their threes, 1439 01:12:00,000 --> 01:12:02,760 Speaker 2: theyve been cold for a month. If they have their threes, 1440 01:12:02,800 --> 01:12:05,800 Speaker 2: they're gonna win this game. One hundred and ten to 1441 01:12:05,840 --> 01:12:08,759 Speaker 2: sixty eight. But even if they don't hit their threes, 1442 01:12:08,880 --> 01:12:10,320 Speaker 2: like if they if they have forty percent, that's what 1443 01:12:10,320 --> 01:12:13,000 Speaker 2: the score is gonna be. If they don't hit their threes, 1444 01:12:13,040 --> 01:12:15,040 Speaker 2: they're gonna get every offensive rebound, they're gonna score it. Well, 1445 01:12:15,040 --> 01:12:18,440 Speaker 2: there's gonna be a layup line. The two point discrepancy 1446 01:12:18,479 --> 01:12:22,240 Speaker 2: between these teams is gonna be stunning. I mean, you 1447 01:12:22,280 --> 01:12:25,800 Speaker 2: look at this is a Penn team that ranks three 1448 01:12:25,880 --> 01:12:28,160 Speaker 2: hundred and forty six in the country in two point 1449 01:12:28,200 --> 01:12:31,599 Speaker 2: percentage on offense, two hundred and ninety second on two 1450 01:12:31,640 --> 01:12:35,400 Speaker 2: point defense. Illinois can play its drop and take away 1451 01:12:35,400 --> 01:12:38,200 Speaker 2: the three. They're obviously gonna be like, hey, TJ Power 1452 01:12:38,240 --> 01:12:41,920 Speaker 2: can't beat us, and they're gonna destroy them on the glass, 1453 01:12:41,920 --> 01:12:45,360 Speaker 2: They're gonna destroy them at the rim. And this Illinois team, 1454 01:12:45,720 --> 01:12:47,519 Speaker 2: they are just I'm curious to get Greg State because 1455 01:12:47,520 --> 01:12:49,360 Speaker 2: I know he likes Pen. I haven't heard anyone make 1456 01:12:49,360 --> 01:12:51,519 Speaker 2: a case for Illinoise. Maybe I'm only one, but this 1457 01:12:51,600 --> 01:12:55,360 Speaker 2: Illinois team is just the definition of all year, the 1458 01:12:55,360 --> 01:12:57,040 Speaker 2: team that comes up short in the big game and 1459 01:12:57,080 --> 01:13:02,920 Speaker 2: then just sand blasts these overmatch teams. I mean, you 1460 01:13:02,960 --> 01:13:09,080 Speaker 2: go back to Who's like teams that are in Penn's league, 1461 01:13:09,200 --> 01:13:11,320 Speaker 2: I don't know, Like Florida Gulf Coast they beat by 1462 01:13:11,360 --> 01:13:13,599 Speaker 2: fifty by the way Penn played who Penn played nobody 1463 01:13:13,600 --> 01:13:16,840 Speaker 2: all year. They played Villanova and lost by thirty and 1464 01:13:16,920 --> 01:13:19,840 Speaker 2: in in that game, I think it's the best team 1465 01:13:19,880 --> 01:13:23,080 Speaker 2: they played all year. They played Providence, they lost by 1466 01:13:23,080 --> 01:13:30,280 Speaker 2: twenty five. They played Offstra at home they lost by seventeen, 1467 01:13:31,320 --> 01:13:34,639 Speaker 2: and they lost by one at Rutgers. But the best 1468 01:13:34,640 --> 01:13:37,040 Speaker 2: thing they played all year was Villanova. They lost ninety 1469 01:13:37,120 --> 01:13:41,200 Speaker 2: to sixty three, and Penn shot fifty percent from three 1470 01:13:41,560 --> 01:13:44,519 Speaker 2: in the game. They shot thirty five percent from two. 1471 01:13:45,040 --> 01:13:49,360 Speaker 2: Villanova shot sixty three percent from two. So I just 1472 01:13:49,400 --> 01:13:52,240 Speaker 2: don't know how Penn is going to get any stops whatsoever. 1473 01:13:53,920 --> 01:13:56,120 Speaker 2: Here's Penn's defense. The thing that does well is it's 1474 01:13:56,120 --> 01:13:59,760 Speaker 2: Forts's turnovers. Illinois never turns it over. So I don't 1475 01:13:59,800 --> 01:14:01,600 Speaker 2: know if gets any stops. Now you do have the 1476 01:14:01,640 --> 01:14:04,880 Speaker 2: fran angle, the familiarity. Maybe Greg's going with that. I 1477 01:14:05,000 --> 01:14:08,400 Speaker 2: like Illinois. I think Illinois wins by thirty plus, Greg, 1478 01:14:08,400 --> 01:14:08,920 Speaker 2: what do you got? 1479 01:14:09,320 --> 01:14:12,320 Speaker 3: I think Illinois wins comfortably. I am going to take 1480 01:14:12,360 --> 01:14:15,000 Speaker 3: the points part of it is the Fran angle. The 1481 01:14:15,120 --> 01:14:19,040 Speaker 3: core of it, though, is I just I smell something 1482 01:14:19,200 --> 01:14:21,960 Speaker 3: with Illinois, which is the Brad Underwood this time of 1483 01:14:22,080 --> 01:14:24,719 Speaker 3: year thing where some guys are burned out and there's 1484 01:14:24,720 --> 01:14:27,479 Speaker 3: a weird vibe to it. You mentioned the three point shooting. 1485 01:14:27,479 --> 01:14:31,559 Speaker 3: They're due for some positive regression. Obviously, the Visage brothers 1486 01:14:31,560 --> 01:14:34,759 Speaker 3: are like two for twenty seven from three or something 1487 01:14:34,800 --> 01:14:37,439 Speaker 3: crazy in their last three weeks. But those guys have 1488 01:14:37,560 --> 01:14:41,599 Speaker 3: just genuinely regressed, like as players over the full course. 1489 01:14:41,840 --> 01:14:43,479 Speaker 2: Doesn't that even not matter in this game. They're gonna 1490 01:14:43,479 --> 01:14:44,519 Speaker 2: get every offensive rebound. 1491 01:14:44,600 --> 01:14:47,439 Speaker 3: It doesn't if they go inside. Those guys never want 1492 01:14:47,439 --> 01:14:51,120 Speaker 3: to be inside. They just float on the perimeter. I uh, Look, 1493 01:14:51,160 --> 01:14:53,360 Speaker 3: Woggler has not been the same. Part of the reason 1494 01:14:53,400 --> 01:14:56,720 Speaker 3: Illinois was so good through February was that Walkler was 1495 01:14:56,800 --> 01:14:59,479 Speaker 3: like the most efficient guard in the country. And he's 1496 01:14:59,520 --> 01:15:01,519 Speaker 3: just been good, good, and I don't want to call 1497 01:15:01,560 --> 01:15:03,759 Speaker 3: it a freshman wall, but I think teams have figured 1498 01:15:03,800 --> 01:15:07,160 Speaker 3: out that if you just get a little physical with him, 1499 01:15:07,200 --> 01:15:09,320 Speaker 3: put somebody on him, face guard him, whatever you can 1500 01:15:09,320 --> 01:15:09,720 Speaker 3: get to him. 1501 01:15:09,760 --> 01:15:11,519 Speaker 2: Not is Penn gonna do that? Probably not? 1502 01:15:12,080 --> 01:15:16,679 Speaker 3: But fran is familiar with what Brad Underwood runs. He's 1503 01:15:16,720 --> 01:15:18,600 Speaker 3: seen this before. I think you look at some of 1504 01:15:18,680 --> 01:15:21,599 Speaker 3: Penn's bigger games, they slow their tempo down, they don't 1505 01:15:21,600 --> 01:15:24,479 Speaker 3: play as fast as they normally do. Illinois plays slow 1506 01:15:24,520 --> 01:15:26,479 Speaker 3: in general. If this is a slow game, as I 1507 01:15:26,520 --> 01:15:29,200 Speaker 3: expect it can be, it's a lot of points, especially 1508 01:15:29,360 --> 01:15:32,000 Speaker 3: when I think Penn with Roberts back in the lineup, 1509 01:15:32,320 --> 01:15:35,400 Speaker 3: has two guys that can just bomb threes over the 1510 01:15:35,439 --> 01:15:39,040 Speaker 3: passive Illinois defense. And I think there's at least enough 1511 01:15:39,120 --> 01:15:41,240 Speaker 3: data points like stuck. You pulled out some games from 1512 01:15:41,280 --> 01:15:44,519 Speaker 3: November where they blitz teams by fifty. You also had 1513 01:15:44,520 --> 01:15:47,040 Speaker 3: the ut Rio Grand Valley game they won by fourteen. 1514 01:15:47,360 --> 01:15:50,000 Speaker 3: You've got games against like Penn State and Maryland, who 1515 01:15:50,000 --> 01:15:54,040 Speaker 3: are stinky big ten teams that were single digits. I 1516 01:15:54,040 --> 01:15:56,759 Speaker 3: don't think this Illinois team necessarily has the killer instinct 1517 01:15:56,760 --> 01:15:59,960 Speaker 3: we want them to. It just harkens back to previous 1518 01:16:00,120 --> 01:16:02,280 Speaker 3: years where it's like, well, they're due to make their shots, 1519 01:16:03,000 --> 01:16:06,000 Speaker 3: and they just insist on guys that aren't making shots, 1520 01:16:06,040 --> 01:16:09,040 Speaker 3: continuing to bomb from three instead of taking those advantages 1521 01:16:09,280 --> 01:16:11,719 Speaker 3: they have inside. It's kind of the problem with Underwood 1522 01:16:11,760 --> 01:16:13,639 Speaker 3: teams for me at this point in the year. There's 1523 01:16:13,720 --> 01:16:16,400 Speaker 3: rumors that Stoyakovich is already two feet out the door 1524 01:16:16,479 --> 01:16:17,240 Speaker 3: ready to portal. 1525 01:16:17,920 --> 01:16:20,400 Speaker 2: I do not trust the vibes with this group right now. 1526 01:16:20,600 --> 01:16:22,680 Speaker 3: I think they have no killer instinct, quite frankly, to 1527 01:16:22,680 --> 01:16:25,120 Speaker 3: beat a team by forty unless they get hot from 1528 01:16:25,160 --> 01:16:27,479 Speaker 3: three and make fifty percent, which stuck. 1529 01:16:27,520 --> 01:16:27,840 Speaker 2: You're right. 1530 01:16:27,840 --> 01:16:29,360 Speaker 3: If they do, this is going to be one hundred 1531 01:16:29,360 --> 01:16:32,360 Speaker 3: and ten to fifty. But I'll take my chances that 1532 01:16:32,479 --> 01:16:36,320 Speaker 3: Roberts and Power can keep pen within twenty four points. 1533 01:16:37,120 --> 01:16:38,760 Speaker 2: All right, we're going ahead to add there. Let's move 1534 01:16:38,800 --> 01:16:40,559 Speaker 2: on to way real quick. 1535 01:16:40,720 --> 01:16:43,160 Speaker 4: Yeah what we got maybe the over I don't know, 1536 01:16:43,240 --> 01:16:45,200 Speaker 4: but shout out early portal predictions. 1537 01:16:45,200 --> 01:16:48,320 Speaker 1: Soyakovich to ole Miss, Oh god. 1538 01:16:49,640 --> 01:16:52,200 Speaker 2: I can see it. All right, let's continue on the 1539 01:16:52,240 --> 01:16:54,360 Speaker 2: night's late Saint Louis Georgia should be a fun one 1540 01:16:54,479 --> 01:16:56,680 Speaker 2: total one sixty nine and a half. I could see this. 1541 01:16:57,200 --> 01:16:59,960 Speaker 2: I would lean on over. Actually this would be shawmaking transition. 1542 01:17:00,080 --> 01:17:03,160 Speaker 2: And this is the eight to nine matchup Buffalo New 1543 01:17:03,200 --> 01:17:10,160 Speaker 2: York nine Buffalo, New York late tip there CBS Georgia 1544 01:17:10,200 --> 01:17:13,320 Speaker 2: tow and a half point favorite sky high total. George 1545 01:17:13,400 --> 01:17:16,160 Speaker 2: is gonna press does that disrupt Saint Louis. Saint Louis 1546 01:17:16,240 --> 01:17:19,040 Speaker 2: half court offense is elite, just half court against man. 1547 01:17:19,840 --> 01:17:21,799 Speaker 2: Can be shaky against zone, even though they can shoot, 1548 01:17:22,600 --> 01:17:24,400 Speaker 2: can be shaky at times against the press, which is 1549 01:17:24,400 --> 01:17:26,280 Speaker 2: gonna just like disrupt their flow. George is gonna press. 1550 01:17:26,439 --> 01:17:29,280 Speaker 2: Georgia will throw zone out. Uh so this is like 1551 01:17:29,320 --> 01:17:33,599 Speaker 2: a very interesting schematic matchup. And then because Georgia might 1552 01:17:33,640 --> 01:17:34,760 Speaker 2: have to zone here because what do you do with 1553 01:17:34,800 --> 01:17:38,200 Speaker 2: surreal Like because Abba can pull them out off the rim. 1554 01:17:39,520 --> 01:17:44,800 Speaker 2: This is a super super interesting schematic battle. I will say. 1555 01:17:44,800 --> 01:17:46,400 Speaker 2: People are like, well, George has been a top twenty 1556 01:17:46,400 --> 01:17:48,280 Speaker 2: team over the past month. Well, yeah, they shot forty 1557 01:17:48,320 --> 01:17:52,360 Speaker 2: three percent from three over the past month. Before then 1558 01:17:52,400 --> 01:17:54,960 Speaker 2: they were at thirty one percent. Like, it's been stunning. 1559 01:17:55,120 --> 01:17:57,400 Speaker 2: You don't talk about three point regression. It's Georgia. Uh 1560 01:17:57,960 --> 01:18:01,559 Speaker 2: screams off the page. But Saint Louis also stumbled down 1561 01:18:01,560 --> 01:18:03,439 Speaker 2: the stretch. Shirts talked about how his teams didn't have 1562 01:18:03,520 --> 01:18:05,160 Speaker 2: munch confidence. They're not in a good headspace. He talked 1563 01:18:05,200 --> 01:18:07,320 Speaker 2: about that a lot. But maybe the game regained some 1564 01:18:07,400 --> 01:18:11,559 Speaker 2: mojo in the A ten tournament, even though you know 1565 01:18:11,680 --> 01:18:16,760 Speaker 2: they didn't win it. Very interesting game here. Coaching match. 1566 01:18:16,800 --> 01:18:18,320 Speaker 2: I think I would give the coaching at to Saint Louis. 1567 01:18:18,360 --> 01:18:21,120 Speaker 2: I think that's your angle here, Greg. Yeah, I just 1568 01:18:21,160 --> 01:18:22,080 Speaker 2: want to back shirts. 1569 01:18:22,120 --> 01:18:24,679 Speaker 3: I think he's a rising star and in his first 1570 01:18:24,760 --> 01:18:27,320 Speaker 3: NCAA tournament appearance, I'll take two and a half points 1571 01:18:27,320 --> 01:18:30,439 Speaker 3: with him. This isn't my strongest play, but it's a play. 1572 01:18:30,640 --> 01:18:32,800 Speaker 3: I've been very in on the Saint Louis team. I 1573 01:18:32,800 --> 01:18:34,760 Speaker 3: think it's a good by low spot given how they 1574 01:18:34,800 --> 01:18:38,200 Speaker 3: finished the season. I mean, some of those games little 1575 01:18:38,200 --> 01:18:41,360 Speaker 3: fluky to me. They definitely aren't the team they looked 1576 01:18:41,400 --> 01:18:43,760 Speaker 3: like in mid February. But I think that team is 1577 01:18:43,760 --> 01:18:47,640 Speaker 3: in there, and I'll just take sort of the evaluation 1578 01:18:47,760 --> 01:18:49,640 Speaker 3: by the dip on a team I really really. 1579 01:18:49,400 --> 01:18:54,200 Speaker 1: Like, Christian, do you have an in the year, Hey Louis. 1580 01:18:54,720 --> 01:18:56,000 Speaker 1: I think they can score well enough. 1581 01:18:57,400 --> 01:18:58,639 Speaker 2: This is gonna be a fun game to watch. There's 1582 01:18:58,640 --> 01:18:59,559 Speaker 2: gonna a lot of shot making. 1583 01:19:00,320 --> 01:19:01,759 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1584 01:19:01,800 --> 01:19:05,560 Speaker 4: And they it's crazy how well they're greid as a 1585 01:19:05,600 --> 01:19:09,519 Speaker 4: defensive team, considering like who they're five man is like, 1586 01:19:09,880 --> 01:19:13,400 Speaker 4: they're just very positionally sound in the right spots. And 1587 01:19:13,400 --> 01:19:16,280 Speaker 4: and I don't know if George is gonna get much easy. 1588 01:19:16,360 --> 01:19:18,439 Speaker 1: I gotta don't know if they can. I don't know. 1589 01:19:18,760 --> 01:19:20,120 Speaker 1: They can obviously get hot. 1590 01:19:20,160 --> 01:19:22,800 Speaker 2: But oh, by the way, I missed four or five 1591 01:19:22,840 --> 01:19:26,439 Speaker 2: Eastern TNT in Buffalo, North Dakota State, Michigan State, Michigan State. 1592 01:19:26,439 --> 01:19:28,679 Speaker 1: Out of sixtys, Michigan State five million. 1593 01:19:29,439 --> 01:19:34,000 Speaker 2: These these uh yeah, I don't really trust these Summit 1594 01:19:34,040 --> 01:19:38,120 Speaker 2: teams in the tournament. North Dakota State very aggressive defense 1595 01:19:38,160 --> 01:19:41,680 Speaker 2: this year. They're gonna like double trap. That's where it's 1596 01:19:41,760 --> 01:19:44,160 Speaker 2: nice to have fears. Michigan State offense is kind of 1597 01:19:44,160 --> 01:19:49,280 Speaker 2: broken there lately. I think it's probably about right, Greg. 1598 01:19:49,280 --> 01:19:50,559 Speaker 2: Do you have any take here on Michigan State, North 1599 01:19:50,600 --> 01:19:53,040 Speaker 2: Dakota State. No, I'm staying away from this one. 1600 01:19:53,160 --> 01:19:56,080 Speaker 3: I don't want a Summit League team that relies on 1601 01:19:56,200 --> 01:19:58,120 Speaker 3: rebounding against the Spartans, though. 1602 01:19:58,640 --> 01:20:06,160 Speaker 2: Also traveling out to Buffalo. Yeah. North Dakota State, Yeah, 1603 01:20:06,200 --> 01:20:09,160 Speaker 2: they want to work and they work inside out, and 1604 01:20:09,200 --> 01:20:10,639 Speaker 2: I don't know if they have a force enough turners 1605 01:20:10,640 --> 01:20:12,800 Speaker 2: against Michigan State. Michig can say three point defense has 1606 01:20:12,800 --> 01:20:14,960 Speaker 2: been bad lately, but it's always good, so like I 1607 01:20:14,960 --> 01:20:17,439 Speaker 2: could see North Akota State shooting like twenty percent from 1608 01:20:17,439 --> 01:20:23,360 Speaker 2: three in this game. Finishing up the nights like Kenessau State, Gonzaga, Portland, Oregon. Tough, 1609 01:20:23,640 --> 01:20:28,280 Speaker 2: tough draw for Kennessaul fourteen seed, tremendous job after losing 1610 01:20:28,280 --> 01:20:31,120 Speaker 2: Coddle to a gambling investigation. If if you see he's eligible, 1611 01:20:31,600 --> 01:20:35,760 Speaker 2: suddenly bet Gonzaga. It was for point shaving. But he's 1612 01:20:35,800 --> 01:20:38,000 Speaker 2: kicked off the team. But they've done r J. Johnson 1613 01:20:38,040 --> 01:20:40,280 Speaker 2: picked up the slack. They've been great athletic, they're very athletic, 1614 01:20:40,320 --> 01:20:42,519 Speaker 2: offensive rebounders, play super hard. Gonzaga twenty and a half 1615 01:20:42,520 --> 01:20:45,200 Speaker 2: point favorite here few has not been good as a 1616 01:20:45,439 --> 01:20:47,559 Speaker 2: large favor with a huge seed differential in the first round. 1617 01:20:47,600 --> 01:20:50,799 Speaker 2: For what it's worth, total one fifty four and a half, 1618 01:20:53,240 --> 01:20:55,720 Speaker 2: kind of lean, kind of Saul just finding a way 1619 01:20:55,760 --> 01:20:58,160 Speaker 2: to stay within twenty but no strong takes Christian Giveney 1620 01:20:58,200 --> 01:20:58,599 Speaker 2: takes here. 1621 01:20:59,800 --> 01:21:02,160 Speaker 1: No, but give me Mark a few in round one? 1622 01:21:02,800 --> 01:21:06,880 Speaker 2: No, yeah, given, Greg, do you have anything there least 1623 01:21:06,920 --> 01:21:10,519 Speaker 2: appetizing game on the card for me? And then finally 1624 01:21:11,320 --> 01:21:14,280 Speaker 2: talk about a Yeah, I have Idaho Houston. Yesterday it 1625 01:21:14,280 --> 01:21:16,120 Speaker 2: was a twenty year anniversary the last time a Big 1626 01:21:16,160 --> 01:21:20,240 Speaker 2: Sky team won a tournament game Montana. They will take 1627 01:21:20,280 --> 01:21:22,519 Speaker 2: on Houston to fifteen to two. Houston's twenty three and 1628 01:21:22,520 --> 01:21:24,280 Speaker 2: a half point favorite of taken some money total one 1629 01:21:24,320 --> 01:21:26,639 Speaker 2: thirty six and a half. On paper, who's Idaho matches up? Well? 1630 01:21:27,520 --> 01:21:30,439 Speaker 2: They good room defense, they're good on the defensive glass, 1631 01:21:31,400 --> 01:21:33,639 Speaker 2: they can they'll shoot threes and they can make them. 1632 01:21:34,760 --> 01:21:38,400 Speaker 2: But it's they're in the big sky like all that 1633 01:21:38,439 --> 01:21:40,400 Speaker 2: I don't know is gonna work against Houston, and Houston 1634 01:21:40,960 --> 01:21:46,040 Speaker 2: pummels these teams in the first round. Calvin Sampson as 1635 01:21:46,040 --> 01:21:48,920 Speaker 2: a favorite and this Ranger hires twelve point cover margin, 1636 01:21:49,160 --> 01:21:54,960 Speaker 2: wins by forty thirty two twenty eight like destroys these teams. 1637 01:21:55,720 --> 01:21:58,800 Speaker 2: I can't lay twenty three and a half, but I'm 1638 01:21:58,840 --> 01:22:00,599 Speaker 2: not betting Idaho. Chris any take care. 1639 01:22:01,200 --> 01:22:04,680 Speaker 4: Yes, the one thing that people forget about is in 1640 01:22:04,720 --> 01:22:07,880 Speaker 4: twenty twenty four, Houston was weirdly in a game with 1641 01:22:08,120 --> 01:22:10,599 Speaker 4: Cleveland State in the one sixteen that was like a 1642 01:22:10,640 --> 01:22:11,720 Speaker 4: game in the second half. 1643 01:22:11,760 --> 01:22:13,160 Speaker 1: They won sixty three fifty two. 1644 01:22:13,880 --> 01:22:17,080 Speaker 4: So that anecdotally, in my mind, I just feel like 1645 01:22:17,080 --> 01:22:20,200 Speaker 4: Houston crushes all these teams, but that was proof that 1646 01:22:20,640 --> 01:22:21,120 Speaker 4: they might not. 1647 01:22:21,360 --> 01:22:23,320 Speaker 1: So I'm not running to lay the huge number. 1648 01:22:24,520 --> 01:22:27,360 Speaker 2: Yeah that I had Houston. I usually bet Houston is 1649 01:22:27,360 --> 01:22:32,360 Speaker 2: these big favorites. Now, that was Northern Kentucky. 1650 01:22:32,800 --> 01:22:35,440 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, what did I say? 1651 01:22:35,920 --> 01:22:38,680 Speaker 2: In Cleveland State? And that was weird because early he 1652 01:22:38,720 --> 01:22:41,160 Speaker 2: was one of the worst defensive rebounding teams in the country. 1653 01:22:41,560 --> 01:22:42,920 Speaker 2: And that Houston team is like a story if you 1654 01:22:42,960 --> 01:22:47,320 Speaker 2: good on the offensive glass, and uh yeah, they do. 1655 01:22:47,960 --> 01:22:50,479 Speaker 2: The problem is Houston turns it over seventeen times in 1656 01:22:50,520 --> 01:22:51,160 Speaker 2: that game. 1657 01:22:51,040 --> 01:22:53,559 Speaker 1: Where Cleveland State from I guess they're in the same league. 1658 01:22:53,600 --> 01:22:58,479 Speaker 2: But they're in the same league, all right, then great, 1659 01:22:58,479 --> 01:23:01,280 Speaker 2: do you have anything Houston? Idah? I wanna play Houston. 1660 01:23:01,400 --> 01:23:03,200 Speaker 2: You've laid out the case here. 1661 01:23:03,520 --> 01:23:06,160 Speaker 3: I usually I'm on Houston in the opening round under 1662 01:23:06,160 --> 01:23:06,879 Speaker 3: Calvin Sampson. 1663 01:23:06,920 --> 01:23:08,400 Speaker 2: It's usually profitable. 1664 01:23:08,640 --> 01:23:11,839 Speaker 3: Obviously there's data points against it too, but just across 1665 01:23:11,880 --> 01:23:14,400 Speaker 3: the board, that's been a good angle, and I think 1666 01:23:14,439 --> 01:23:17,320 Speaker 3: an Idaho team that is the fifth best defensive rebounding 1667 01:23:17,320 --> 01:23:18,760 Speaker 3: team in the sport. This is just one of those 1668 01:23:18,760 --> 01:23:21,679 Speaker 3: matchups where it's like, oh, our superpower got taken from us, 1669 01:23:22,120 --> 01:23:25,240 Speaker 3: Like this is Houston athletes and physicality. 1670 01:23:25,280 --> 01:23:28,080 Speaker 2: If they neutralize that, I think they run away with it. Also, 1671 01:23:28,160 --> 01:23:30,160 Speaker 2: no one in the Big Sky offensive rebounds They're twenty 1672 01:23:30,240 --> 01:23:34,120 Speaker 2: ninth as a conference an offensive rebounding rate. So yeah, 1673 01:23:34,200 --> 01:23:39,960 Speaker 2: a little different caliber of athletes here for you know, 1674 01:23:40,040 --> 01:23:42,839 Speaker 2: Rasmussen and company to deal with. But you know Colet Mitchell, 1675 01:23:43,320 --> 01:23:46,400 Speaker 2: he can get hot. Brickner I did as a decent team, 1676 01:23:46,439 --> 01:23:48,920 Speaker 2: but it's just too much of that. They're gonna shoot 1677 01:23:48,920 --> 01:23:51,400 Speaker 2: a ton of threes. So there's some variants there, but 1678 01:23:52,040 --> 01:23:54,479 Speaker 2: I don't think the athletic and talent gap is going 1679 01:23:54,560 --> 01:23:57,719 Speaker 2: to be massive. But congrats to the boys in Moscow. 1680 01:23:57,760 --> 01:23:59,519 Speaker 2: It's good to see them in the dance. 1681 01:24:00,120 --> 01:24:00,400 Speaker 1: All right. 1682 01:24:00,400 --> 01:24:02,320 Speaker 2: Before we get out of here, I do people for 1683 01:24:02,520 --> 01:24:04,400 Speaker 2: people throwing out their brackets. Who you got winning it all? 1684 01:24:04,920 --> 01:24:07,240 Speaker 2: And and your final four? If you have a finalized 1685 01:24:07,240 --> 01:24:10,120 Speaker 2: and you can say subject could change final four for me. 1686 01:24:10,360 --> 01:24:15,400 Speaker 3: I got Duke, Houston, Michigan and Purdue. I'm going Duke 1687 01:24:15,439 --> 01:24:16,840 Speaker 3: over Michigan in the championship. 1688 01:24:18,200 --> 01:24:24,960 Speaker 4: Christian Uh, I've got Arizona, Michigan, Houston, Yukon, And I've 1689 01:24:25,000 --> 01:24:26,559 Speaker 4: got Arizona over Houston. 1690 01:24:27,800 --> 01:24:31,320 Speaker 2: I will share mine on the Friday show. All right, 1691 01:24:31,439 --> 01:24:33,560 Speaker 2: that'll do it all the games on Thursday broke it 1692 01:24:33,600 --> 01:24:35,679 Speaker 2: down a couple of hours. Now we'll do Friday. Thanks 1693 01:24:35,680 --> 01:24:39,080 Speaker 2: to Greg and Christian for joining me, most partly thanks 1694 01:24:39,120 --> 01:24:40,680 Speaker 2: to all of you for tuning in. Thanks to our 1695 01:24:40,720 --> 01:24:44,240 Speaker 2: producers as well. Love the Friday Games, breakdown on myself, 1696 01:24:44,320 --> 01:24:47,719 Speaker 2: Duck Mike. 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