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Call eight five, nine, two seven one joke 8 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 1: or visit Comedy off Broadway, dot com com off Bay. 9 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 2: This is Kentucky Sports Radio presented by Stockton Mortgage. 10 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 3: Now here's Matt Jones. 11 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 4: Welcome everyone, Kentucky Sports Radio. Wednesday, March to twenty seventh. 12 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 4: I Matt Jones here at the Chaos Bar and Grill. 13 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:45,919 Speaker 4: It is wingsday, dollar wings all day. It's our special. 14 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:50,479 Speaker 4: You know you come in, get chsbar, wings, eat them, 15 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:53,479 Speaker 4: put them in your mouth and chew uh boneless or 16 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 4: even less than that all day. 17 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 5: You should come out. 18 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 4: This is a big new I mean, this is gonna 19 00:00:57,880 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 4: be a big show's big news day stuff going on. 20 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 5: Ryan Limits here. 21 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 4: Drew Franklin stuck in traffic, Shannon, He's pulling a Ryne. Yeah, 22 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 4: he's stuck in How much traffic could there be? He says, 23 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:12,040 Speaker 4: he's stuck downtown in traffic, and he keeps showing us 24 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:14,760 Speaker 4: his ways, as if he couldn't manipulate that shitning with 25 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 4: AI or something like that. 26 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 3: You know what time the show starts? 27 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 4: What time the show starts? Like, get on there. You know, 28 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 4: there's a lot of ways to get here. He's just 29 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 4: stuck downtown. 30 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:25,840 Speaker 5: You know. 31 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 6: I almost stand up for him a little bit. It's 32 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 6: a mess down there. 33 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 5: I don't know what's going on. You got here, Well, 34 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:31,400 Speaker 5: i'm here. 35 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 3: How did you get there? 36 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 5: Yeah? What'd you do? Did you fly? 37 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 6: Least Town Road, which I usually take to get to 38 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 6: Red Mile Road was backed up all the way to New. 39 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 4: Circle, So I know a different way I did Shannon 40 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 4: didn't work. 41 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:44,040 Speaker 5: I mean, Ryan figured it out. 42 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:45,320 Speaker 3: Just park your car and walk. 43 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, listen, just leave right like I just just leave. 44 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 4: The show takes probably something I didn't just see. No shit, 45 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 4: I came down these same roads. I didn't see any traffic. 46 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, I got here. 47 00:01:57,280 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 6: Something something going on downtown. 48 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, there's nothing going on if you're downtown seven seven 49 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 4: two seven four five two five four, you tell me 50 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 4: if anything's going Drew me, I ain't. Drew didn't want 51 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 4: to come here because he's tired of getting yelled at. 52 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 4: And I think Drew is being a liar liar pants 53 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 4: on five. 54 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 6: He sent you the screenshot of his ways that he 55 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:18,240 Speaker 6: can't AI that always it's all I yea nowadays, sh 56 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:20,399 Speaker 6: you can't believe the text. 57 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 4: They Appy Clark's Bubbenschop full nine A five nine two 58 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:27,119 Speaker 4: eight twenty two eighty seven A vision Auto glass text 59 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 4: machine is seven seven two seven seven four five two 60 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 4: five four of this ditch sponsor by t J Smith, 61 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 4: lofish you called TJ. 62 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:33,079 Speaker 5: He'll make it pay. 63 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 6: I got a lot of stuff for you, a lot 64 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 6: of news stuff today. 65 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:37,240 Speaker 4: So we obviously got to talk about the big news, 66 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 4: which we will next, but we also have, uh, I'm 67 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 4: gonna give you some some tidbits from the cow Mitch meeting. 68 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 5: Oh good, we might have some football news. 69 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 4: Okay, it may not break before this show's over, so 70 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 4: it'll be kind of right towards the end, and if 71 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 4: it happens, you'll know. If not, you'll probably find out 72 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 4: later today. But we also have a football recruit coming 73 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 4: on the show. Yeah, we'll this be Shannon the first 74 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:03,359 Speaker 4: football recruit to come on this show and commit to 75 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:03,959 Speaker 4: someone else. 76 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 5: We're still waiting for that to happen. 77 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 3: I don't think that's gonna happen. Maybe one day, Shannon. 78 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 5: It's good, that's gonna be Shannon's favorite play. Whatever that. 79 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 4: We will have a football recruit make his commitment on 80 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 4: here later today. But let's start with the big news 81 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 4: cal Perry will return. That was I was at Skyline, Okay, 82 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 4: I where all the good people go? Treated myself to 83 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 4: Skyline last night. Can I explain the situation of me 84 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 4: tweeting out all right, meeting ends. I get a text 85 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 4: message meeting has ended because I knew the meeting was 86 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 4: at at the at the Craft Center. Shannon almost drove 87 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 4: and set in the parking lot like that would have been. 88 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 3: A really put your ear up next to the window, 89 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 3: see if you can. 90 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 4: I was like, you know what, We'll give them their space. 91 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 4: So I get to text the meetings over. So I 92 00:03:56,120 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 4: tweet out meetings ended. But now it's Skyline time, So what. 93 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 5: Are you gonna do? Joy? 94 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 4: Normally, when I go into Skyline, chain and I put 95 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 4: leave the phone in the car so that I take 96 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 4: a magazine. 97 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 3: What do you laugh at at magazine and a three 98 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 3: way chili. 99 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 5: I leave the phone in the car. 100 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 4: It's usually either New York Magazine or Bloomberg Business Week, 101 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:23,599 Speaker 4: and then you know what all the kids really sure? 102 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:26,279 Speaker 5: And then I go in and have my four way. 103 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 3: Within the four way you do a four way four way? 104 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 5: Yes, cheese, beans and onions. No, I don't know. 105 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:34,160 Speaker 3: No beans, hot sauce. 106 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 5: Point all the hot sauce, but point me. 107 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 4: So I take my phone in and I'm kind of 108 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:42,600 Speaker 4: waiting and I get the first A lot of people 109 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 4: won't believe this. I don't put something out until I 110 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 4: hear it from either one person that I know would know, 111 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 4: or two people. 112 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:55,599 Speaker 5: That likely know. That's my personal standard. 113 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 4: I don't know what the standard is in the journalism world, 114 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 4: but that's my standard because some people can be wrong. 115 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 5: But if there's one person that I. 116 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:07,160 Speaker 4: Know knows or two people that I think very very likely, no, 117 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 4: I'll go sure. So, like ninety percent of stuff I hear, 118 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 4: I don't put out. There's a lot a lot of 119 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 4: stuff that I've heard in the last few years. But 120 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:21,039 Speaker 4: because I couldn't call col directly like years ago, I'd 121 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 4: wait until I had two all right, I get the 122 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:28,840 Speaker 4: first one. Col's back, all right, Now, I think he's 123 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 4: probably back, but really there's two sides of this. Now 124 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 4: there's the basketball side and there's the athletics side, and 125 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 4: you know they're not on the same page, haven't been 126 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 4: for years. Yeah, So one of them was on one side, 127 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 4: and I was like, I want to hear somebody on 128 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:44,920 Speaker 4: the other side tell me that, and then we finally 129 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 4: get it. 130 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 5: So I hear from both sides he's back. 131 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 4: So I put that out sitting all right, I want 132 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 4: you to picture like booths Shennon at Skyline. There were 133 00:05:56,640 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 4: only four people in the restaurant. Okay, all right, that's 134 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 4: the one on Richmond Road. That's a big place, right, 135 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:09,160 Speaker 4: this probably like nineteen year old guy and his girlfriend 136 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:11,480 Speaker 4: come and they sit in the booth right next to 137 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 4: me to where they're like shenning. 138 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:14,600 Speaker 5: Back to back from me. 139 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, all the places me anywhere. Why did they 140 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:21,840 Speaker 4: have to sit right next to me? They're back to 141 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 4: back to me. Then it's uncomfortable, right because I'm next 142 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 4: to Brian, like I'm right on top of this guy. 143 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, and I go, okay, so. 144 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:31,720 Speaker 4: I actually flip sides to the other side of the 145 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 4: just to give myself some thing, so I tweeted out. 146 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:38,039 Speaker 4: Thirty seconds later, I hear the guy tell his girlfriend, well, 147 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:41,160 Speaker 4: it looks like Cal Perry's back, and she goes, how 148 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 4: do you know? And he says, Matt Jones just said it. 149 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:46,919 Speaker 4: And I thought to my shelf, shan, he doesn't realize 150 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:47,839 Speaker 4: I'm right next to. 151 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 3: Him, Yeah, Like, does he know what Matt Jones looks? 152 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 4: Literally seconds ago I was breathing in his ear. Yeah, 153 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:57,600 Speaker 4: and now I'm right next to him, so put it out, 154 00:06:57,680 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 4: and of course, uh, you know, then every thing goes. 155 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 4: I think a lot of the reports that came out 156 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 4: immediately after that were the quote unquote results of the meeting. Ryan, 157 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 4: I don't know that I think all of those are true. Really, Yeah, No, 158 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 4: I mean I everybody's got like a message they want 159 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 4: to put out. Yeah, and I think that was kind 160 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 4: of the basketball message. But I do think over the 161 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 4: next few days we'll hear some of what's going to happen. 162 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 4: There's one or two things I'm confident of, but just overall, 163 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 4: the decision to keep Cal is what in your mind. 164 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 6: I guess I'm not totally surprised because, like you and 165 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 6: I talked about I didn't think Mitch Barnhart wanted to 166 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 6: be the guy that fired John Caliperi. And as you 167 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 6: pointed out, even though the fans were ready for this 168 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 6: was me one more year. Maybe the administration was not 169 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 6: there yet. Maybe they are now, you know, I don't know. 170 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 6: I don't know what the conversation was like. Maybe you'll 171 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 6: be able to fill us in a little bit. But 172 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 6: for cali Peri, you know, it sounded like on his 173 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 6: show that you know, he wanted to stay, you know, 174 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 6: he would didn't want to go anywhere. 175 00:07:58,080 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 5: So I think that was clear from his show. 176 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 6: Yeah, so I wasn't surprised when that came out yesterday. 177 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 5: What about you, Shannon, you think good decision? 178 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 6: Uh? 179 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, probably overall, probably is a good decision. 180 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 2: I just you know, going back to who is going 181 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 2: to replace him, there's there's some names out there that 182 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 2: maybe could come in and do a better job. Maybe, 183 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 2: but you're taking a huge risk when you do that. 184 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 2: I was. I wasn't surprised that he brought him back. 185 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 2: As I said, I would have been shocked if they 186 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 2: didn't bring him back. So it's what I expected. 187 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 4: I wasn't surprised but I have to tell you, Ryan, 188 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 4: I think it was a lot closer than people realize. 189 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:33,599 Speaker 5: Really. I mean, I think they went through all I 190 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 5: think Mitch went through thoroughly. 191 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 4: All the options. All Right, if we fire, do we 192 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:44,839 Speaker 4: have the money? Okay, where's it coming from? What do 193 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 4: we do next? 194 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 7: Like? 195 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 5: What's that process look like? How do we build a roster? 196 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 5: What's that timeline? 197 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 4: So I think he did that, and then I think 198 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 4: he played out the other sequence, right, all right, what 199 00:08:57,040 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 4: if we keep him? 200 00:08:58,280 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 5: What's that look like? 201 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 4: You know, we talked about how they're gonna have to 202 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 4: sell all these front rows of the basketball thing? Yes, 203 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:09,720 Speaker 4: is this gonna keep it from happening? Okay, it can't 204 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 4: be managed like it's done? Will cal accept all this? 205 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 4: And I think they made the decision that they were 206 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 4: going to keep him if col was cool with what 207 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:23,599 Speaker 4: was gonna happen. And they had that meeting yesterday, and 208 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 4: one has to assume he was okay with it to 209 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 4: come out of the meeting with the he stayed Yeah. 210 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:31,680 Speaker 5: Is that fair to say? Say? Now? 211 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 4: I will say, Shannon, so I put that out. Now, 212 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 4: wasn't the only one other people put it out? I 213 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:39,840 Speaker 4: put that out like seven something like that. Mitch's statement 214 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 4: was not exactly full of excitement, you know, late to right. 215 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 5: Well, but I mean that's okay. 216 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 4: I mean he doesn't rock, but it was ten o'clock, 217 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:51,680 Speaker 4: which you would think would be past his bedtime. Yeah, 218 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:57,319 Speaker 4: this is not exactly I would say a statement of 219 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 4: huge affirmation and support, as we normally do at the 220 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 4: end of the season. Cali Perry and I have had 221 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 4: conversations about the direction of our men's basketball program, and 222 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 4: I can confirm that he will return for his sixteenth 223 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 4: season as head coach. 224 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 5: I mean that's not. 225 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 6: That's just black and white. 226 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 4: I mean that that's not like the most supportive comment 227 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 4: in the world, is it, Shannon. 228 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:22,079 Speaker 5: It's like, yeah, he's coming back. 229 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:24,840 Speaker 3: But I think his actions speak for him. 230 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 2: I mean, bringing them back, that's a huge vote of confidence, 231 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 2: just bringing them back and sticking your neck out there 232 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 2: as the ad. 233 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 4: But he's also sort of acknowledging that maybe there was 234 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:35,679 Speaker 4: some consideration because he doesn't write that every year. 235 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 6: Well, I'm sure he doesn't release the statement. 236 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 4: He doesn't release the statement he's coming. He didn't release 237 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 4: a statement last year say Mark Stoops is coming back. 238 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 3: You know he's getting the emails. He knows there's some 239 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 3: angry fans. 240 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 6: Let me ask you this then, So obviously the pressure's 241 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 6: on Col next year. But is a pressure now also 242 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 6: on Mitch now? 243 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 5: I think so. I think if Col fails again. 244 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 6: People point their finger at Mitch. 245 00:10:56,880 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 5: Now. I think so, because he he had a chance 246 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:02,079 Speaker 5: to do it this year. 247 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:07,079 Speaker 4: In years past it was only really the kuks. And 248 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:09,320 Speaker 4: I say that with infinity because I have some friends 249 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:12,320 Speaker 4: that were kooks. But it wasn't like a real option 250 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 4: to let him go. This year actually was. 251 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, And if he had, I don't know that. 252 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:21,199 Speaker 4: I mean, there would have been some people upset, but 253 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:24,720 Speaker 4: like I think the fan base most of them would 254 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 4: have been all right. 255 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 5: But he chose not to. 256 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 4: So I think he's putting his career off the line too. 257 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 4: I think Mitch is probably headed towards the end of 258 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:39,560 Speaker 4: his time here anyway, voluntarily, right. Yeah, And let's say 259 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 4: you only want to do this Shan in another year 260 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 4: or two. 261 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 5: Yep, do you want your last action being firing cow? 262 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:46,440 Speaker 6: You don't. 263 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:49,720 Speaker 5: You probably don't know, right, You probably don't. 264 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:51,679 Speaker 3: You're trying to set this up for the next guy too. 265 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:54,560 Speaker 4: And I think there's an argument that if there would 266 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 4: needed to be a change. Mitch might Mitch is the 267 00:11:57,160 --> 00:11:59,319 Speaker 4: kind of selfless person who might be like, I'd like 268 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 4: the next guy to make that change. Although whoever the 269 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:04,200 Speaker 4: next man or woman would be, that would be a. 270 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 3: Hard a lot of pressure. 271 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:10,960 Speaker 5: That's a lot of coach, Yeah, I mean that's a lot. 272 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:16,599 Speaker 4: Now, what happened in the meeting, I don't have a 273 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 4: ton of specifics, but here are the two things, right, 274 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 4: And I think I can say very confident these are 275 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 4: the two things I think definitely happen. There's a lot 276 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 4: of stuff that I don't know, and but here are 277 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 4: the two things I think definitely am one. There are 278 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 4: gonna be some changes in how the basketball program is 279 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 4: run and who's doing it. There're gonna be some people 280 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 4: who've been there a while who will. 281 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 5: Not be there next year. 282 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:44,679 Speaker 6: You're talking about assistance. 283 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:48,080 Speaker 4: I'm talking about there'll be a change with at least 284 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 4: one assistant. And there'll be some names that maybe you 285 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 4: all don't know, but are the people who run the 286 00:12:55,880 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 4: place that are likely gonna be not rotained And that 287 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 4: is a big deal because some of those people have 288 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:12,839 Speaker 4: longtime cow col ties. And if can we be can 289 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:15,319 Speaker 4: we be honest? Be Frank Chanon. Do you want to 290 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 4: be honest? 291 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 3: I want Frank Lemon. Yeah, let's be honest. 292 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 6: Go ahead, Frank, No, you're Frank Frank Jones today Jones. 293 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 4: And again I don't I don't really care if people 294 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 4: disagree with this because Kyle Tucker's article last year's showcase. 295 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:34,960 Speaker 5: People don't want to know what's actually happened. I mean 296 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 5: they say they do, but when then they do, they 297 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 5: just get angry. 298 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 6: Yeah, you pull back the curtain and. 299 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:41,559 Speaker 4: You like, if you pull back the curtain and you 300 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 4: don't see what you want to see, you get angry. 301 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:48,079 Speaker 5: Ye, not all everyone, but a lot of people do. 302 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 4: But the reality is for three years, I think this 303 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 4: started with COVID, But honestly, the COVID year was was 304 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 4: wild in a lot of ways that aren't really Cow's fault, 305 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:02,439 Speaker 4: although the coaching I think was, but some of the 306 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 4: other stuff. But the last three years it has been 307 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 4: an organizational organizational disaster. Leave aside what you see on 308 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 4: the court, just the way things run there have been 309 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 4: way out of whack, right, it's disorganized. It has led 310 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 4: to problems off the court where just in the anile world, 311 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 4: nobody's sure what to do. 312 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 5: I mean, who do you call? 313 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 4: People with loose lips would tell players they'd get this, 314 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 4: but then they were never really gonna get that, and 315 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 4: then that like, it was just an organizational disaster. To 316 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 4: get to cal you had to go through one person, 317 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 4: and if that person didn't like you, well sorry, that's 318 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 4: just the way it goes. And it was a disaster. 319 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 4: And anyone, if they are honest, anyone associated with UK basketball, 320 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 4: would tell you that's true. 321 00:14:57,000 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 5: They all would tell you that. 322 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 4: People who Cow's one of their best friends, if you 323 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 4: got them on a lie detector, they would tell you 324 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 4: that place was run about as unorganized as possible. And 325 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 4: almost all the off the court problems go to that. 326 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 4: And ultimately that's Cow's fault. 327 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 5: He's in charge. 328 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 4: True, but it's not all Cow. It's some dissert Why 329 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 4: do you think these people left in recent years? They 330 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 4: couldn't take that anymore. They just couldn't. Kyle dealt with 331 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 4: some of that in his article, But it got worse 332 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 4: this year, and I think Mitch, to his credit, has 333 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 4: come in and said that. 334 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 5: Ain't happening anymore. 335 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 4: We UK athletics are now going to go back to 336 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 4: what we do for every other school, which is make 337 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 4: sure this is run or ec every other program. Make 338 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 4: sure this is running an organized manner, and you don't 339 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 4: get to do it as your own fiefdom anymore. 340 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 6: Yeah, basketball is kind of on its own island for 341 00:15:56,640 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 6: the lastny years. 342 00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 4: Was for years on its own island that operated like 343 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 4: a well oiled machine. Now it's on its own island 344 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 4: where it's lord of the flies. And I think Mitch 345 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 4: is saying that island is now gone, and we're going 346 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 4: to organize this like we do football, like we do 347 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 4: like every other sport. And I don't think Cal loves that, 348 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 4: but I don't think he had a choice because even 349 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 4: he knows it can't be like it was. 350 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 5: Yeah. 351 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 6: So do you think they'll end up being a guy 352 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 6: not Dwayne Pev, but a guy like Dwayne Pev. That'll 353 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 6: be that interview. 354 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 4: I don't know, But I think the way it is now, 355 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 4: that's the part of the meeting. I don't know is 356 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 4: how they decided it will look in the future. But 357 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 4: I think Mitch said to him, it ain't gonna be 358 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 4: like it was, and you gotta be okay with that. 359 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 4: He must be okay. He must have said yes for 360 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 4: this to a blare. I was told the night before 361 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 4: the meeting it is more likely than not he's the coach. 362 00:16:54,200 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 4: But cal has to agree that this stuff's getting changed. Well, 363 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 4: it's announced he was the coach. Yeah, so my guess 364 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:04,639 Speaker 4: is he must have agreed. 365 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:07,880 Speaker 6: Maybe through all this it's been kind of a humbling experience, 366 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 6: and he's more willing to accept some of this. 367 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 4: Well. 368 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:10,879 Speaker 5: I love about that. 369 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:13,400 Speaker 4: I don't think he has a choice. For the first 370 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 4: time since he's been here, the leverage is flipped. 371 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:16,640 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's right. 372 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 4: For the first time since he's been here, he doesn't 373 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:22,400 Speaker 4: have the leverage. And this was a chance for Mitch 374 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:24,880 Speaker 4: to do what he probably wanted to do ten years ago, 375 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:30,399 Speaker 4: which is make it an actual, well organized business, not 376 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:35,440 Speaker 4: a fiefdom led by whoever happens to have moved their 377 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:38,400 Speaker 4: way into the top. We even to take a break. 378 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:40,399 Speaker 4: We'll take a break. We'll talk more about this. KSI 379 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 4: mac davis. 380 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 3: A version of this song too. 381 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:49,360 Speaker 4: Will he does see this? He sings it at concerts. 382 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:52,120 Speaker 4: Never met a woman who likes this song. I've played 383 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 4: this as a joke and they're always like, this is awful. 384 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:56,960 Speaker 6: I can see why it's terrible. 385 00:17:57,000 --> 00:17:59,160 Speaker 5: I can see why all right, Drew is here. 386 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:02,920 Speaker 4: First of all, Shannon suggested during the break that we 387 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 4: dock your pay for the part of the show you missed. 388 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:10,440 Speaker 4: You've missed one, you've missed one eighth of the show 389 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 4: you make of six dollars, you make ten two thousand 390 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:16,680 Speaker 4: dollars a show, So you're down two hundred and fifty bucks. 391 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 5: So we're gonna two. 392 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:20,960 Speaker 8: I was actually I was about to run out of 393 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:23,040 Speaker 8: gas downtown. I thought, I don't think I could fill 394 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:25,399 Speaker 8: my car for what I'm missing. No, I don't know 395 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:27,119 Speaker 8: what's gonna being serious, Sorry, I'm late. I don't know 396 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:29,920 Speaker 8: what's happening in Lexington. But I was downtown in one 397 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:31,320 Speaker 8: spot for forty five minutes. 398 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:34,240 Speaker 6: Yeah, I keep looking on our social media. Somebody I 399 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 6: thought would tell us what's going on. 400 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:35,960 Speaker 5: I want to tell you. 401 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 4: I think present. I think you're making it up. All right, 402 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 4: so uh so, so back to what I was saying 403 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 4: for a second. So I think they're gonna they're gonna 404 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:49,680 Speaker 4: reorganize everything on the text machine. One person goes, Matt, 405 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:52,840 Speaker 4: are the problems you think mitches or Cow's fault? Well, 406 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:56,680 Speaker 4: on some level they're both. But again, all right, so 407 00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:59,359 Speaker 4: let's go back, it's twenty ten. You bring call in, 408 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 4: you hire Cal. Everybody's exciting. John Wall commits, DeMarcus Cousins commits, 409 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 4: Patrick Patterson comes back. It's like, yeah, but to do here? 410 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:11,240 Speaker 4: We go booba dee bo and then Cal starts saying, yeah, 411 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:11,840 Speaker 4: I ain't doing that. 412 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 5: I'm doing this now. Mitch, in theory should take control. 413 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:17,359 Speaker 5: But how you gonna do that? 414 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 9: Hew? 415 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 6: You gonna do that? 416 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 5: If publicly there's a problem. 417 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 4: Between the two of them, Who's gonna win cal Perry, 418 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:26,680 Speaker 4: cal Perry's gonna win. So then twenty ten happens, you're 419 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 4: the coolest program in the country. 420 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 5: You're rocking. 421 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:31,200 Speaker 4: Twenty eleven happens, you make the final four, twenty twelve, 422 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 4: you win the national championship. Cal continues to do what 423 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 4: he wants. At that point, what's Mitch gonna do? Yeah, 424 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:40,720 Speaker 4: I mean there's and so all of a sudden, you 425 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:43,960 Speaker 4: get more and more and more removed. They had Dwayne 426 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 4: Peevee as the one guy who would go, Okay, I'll 427 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:48,920 Speaker 4: make all this work, and he does, and then the 428 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:51,639 Speaker 4: day he leaves, it's like the one big brother that 429 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:55,120 Speaker 4: everybody listened to is gone, and it's like, oh, Shannon 430 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 4: party all the time, right, that's right. And if and 431 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:02,440 Speaker 4: then when you aren't losing, it falls apart, that's true. 432 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 4: And that's what happened. I mean, that's what happened. Now, 433 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:08,200 Speaker 4: let me ask you a question that I got to 434 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:12,199 Speaker 4: asked yesterday by somebody pretty closely associated with the program. 435 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 5: Does this work? 436 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 4: Knowing Cow's gonna have to do things differently than he's 437 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 4: done for fifteen years, knowing Mitch is now going to 438 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 4: be involved, and knowing the way the fan base is, 439 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:27,200 Speaker 4: does this work? 440 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:29,720 Speaker 6: You want me to go first? 441 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 5: Yeah? 442 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 6: My fear is no mean and I think it's because 443 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:35,479 Speaker 6: we were at this point last year where changes had 444 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 6: to be made. You gotta do this, you got you 445 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 6: gotta bring in shooters, you got to bring in it 446 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:42,960 Speaker 6: somewhere for game planning, game strategy. He did. I just 447 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:46,440 Speaker 6: don't think he's going to change, like Mitch thinks he's 448 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 6: going to change. 449 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:47,920 Speaker 5: Do you think it works? 450 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 8: I have very little faith, which is why I thought 451 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:53,120 Speaker 8: it was time to try something new. I just I'm 452 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 8: still stuck on why are we acting like last year 453 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 8: didn't happen? 454 00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:58,639 Speaker 5: That was the let's do it? 455 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:00,639 Speaker 8: Yeah, it was like when he said Monday Night on 456 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 8: his show, and I appreciate him trying. He said, let's 457 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 8: come together and do something special. I'm still hurting that 458 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:08,200 Speaker 8: I'll never see Rob Dillingham in a Kentucky uniform again. 459 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 8: I thought that was gonna be something special, and I'm 460 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 8: sure a lot of people are like me. I mean, 461 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:14,200 Speaker 8: we're gonna get up and cheer for Kentucky and be 462 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 8: for whatever players are in uniform. I hope a lot 463 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 8: from this current team are on the team next year. 464 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:22,200 Speaker 8: I just worry about the promotion and then getting excitement, 465 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 8: and god forbid, it goes south and they lose some 466 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:26,440 Speaker 8: games early. It is just gonna be nastier than it 467 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 8: would need to be if it were a new change. 468 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:31,480 Speaker 8: But the decision has been made. Mitch's tweet got me 469 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:33,640 Speaker 8: ready to run through a wall last night, and we're 470 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 8: gonna be cheering for the Wildcats wait for that bab 471 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:38,160 Speaker 8: to drop. 472 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 5: This is the way I would put if you asked 473 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 5: me to guess, is this gonna work? No, it's not. 474 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:47,880 Speaker 5: There's too much. 475 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 4: You're asking a man who's coached for thirty five years 476 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:56,320 Speaker 4: to change overnight, not just his basketball style, which, to 477 00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:59,399 Speaker 4: be fair to him, he changed a little, but like 478 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 4: every thing about it. 479 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 5: It would be as if you took this radio show 480 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:05,639 Speaker 5: and you said, hey, Matt, now you have to follow 481 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:06,600 Speaker 5: the rules of radio. 482 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:08,680 Speaker 6: You have to talk x's and o's. 483 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:12,520 Speaker 5: You have to talk x's and o's. I don't know 484 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:16,920 Speaker 5: if that's gonna work. With that said, when it tips off, 485 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:18,040 Speaker 5: I hope it does work. 486 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:18,520 Speaker 6: Amen. 487 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 5: We all should hope it does because if it doesn't, 488 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:25,919 Speaker 5: we all lose all of us. I hope we win 489 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 5: every game. Do I think it will what I know 490 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 5: of him? 491 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:31,359 Speaker 4: No? 492 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:35,879 Speaker 5: I don't. But do I hope it does? Yes? I 493 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 5: want to be wrong. I want to have it thrown 494 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 5: in my face that it works. But do I think 495 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 5: it will? 496 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 9: No? 497 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:48,399 Speaker 5: And do I know the people around them? Do they 498 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 5: think it will? 499 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:49,920 Speaker 6: No? 500 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:52,760 Speaker 5: But I hope it does. Well. 501 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 4: Take your calls. What'd you think of the decision yesterday? 502 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:58,200 Speaker 4: Have some football on the second hour. It's KSR. 503 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 5: TJ. Smith, personal injury attorney called TJ. He'll make them. 504 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:08,480 Speaker 2: Pay now more of Kentucky Sports Radio presented by Stockton Mortgage. 505 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:09,679 Speaker 3: Here's Matt Jones. 506 00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:13,480 Speaker 4: Welcome back Tucky Sports Radio. There are two things going 507 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 4: on downtown. One the State Student Technology Leadership Program at 508 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:19,040 Speaker 4: RUP that can't be it. 509 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 6: Thousands and thousands and thousands got before I got near up. 510 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:27,720 Speaker 4: The other is that they're putting up Keenland banners and 511 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 4: they shut down part of downtown. Let me just say, Shannon, 512 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 4: if that's true, that would annoy me. And I wasn't 513 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:34,879 Speaker 4: even in the traffic. 514 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:37,359 Speaker 5: Yeah, like put up the banners in the middle of 515 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 5: the nine. 516 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 6: Yes, not during morning rush hour. 517 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:42,840 Speaker 4: They should never I mean, I get it, but like 518 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:44,720 Speaker 4: that kind of stuff, do it in the middle of 519 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:46,360 Speaker 4: the knot or do it at night. 520 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 5: You should never do that during the day. 521 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 3: Is that a nine to five job and they have 522 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 3: to do it between those hours? 523 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 4: I mean maybe, but like give over time, right, yes, 524 00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:01,120 Speaker 4: just like pay them time and a half. Somebody will 525 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:03,359 Speaker 4: do it, like somebody will be agreed to that to 526 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:06,120 Speaker 4: get time. And I like, you don't shut it down 527 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:06,840 Speaker 4: for that stuff. 528 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 8: If I'd known, I would have gotten out and put 529 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 8: them up myself to speed up the process. 530 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:13,359 Speaker 5: I sit on. Every street was red on the. 531 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 3: We have some breaking news, Okay doesn't need. 532 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:24,760 Speaker 4: NCAA President Charlie Baker says he will go to all 533 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:28,480 Speaker 4: states where gambling is legal and ask them to ban 534 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:32,440 Speaker 4: prop bets for college games. Prop bets are where you 535 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:35,440 Speaker 4: bet on whether a player will score x or y points, 536 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:35,960 Speaker 4: et cetera. 537 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:39,040 Speaker 8: A big prep bet, guy, I'll be honest. Yeah, that's 538 00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 8: that's part of the fun in Pennsylvania because we couldn't. 539 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 8: I was trying to well, actually I was trying to 540 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:45,800 Speaker 8: bet Rob MVP of the Final four. 541 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:48,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, give me some money. Well, first of all, I mean, 542 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:52,920 Speaker 5: Charlie Baker can ask. He can't. The NCAA can't. That's 543 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 5: the NCAA president. He can't force that. The states will 544 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 5: have to agree to it. But my guess is most 545 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:00,639 Speaker 5: of the states will do what he asked. 546 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 6: Tennessee already does it for collegiate athletes. 547 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:04,879 Speaker 5: Pennsylvania. 548 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:06,639 Speaker 4: You can't do it in Pennsylvania. You can't do it 549 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 4: in Ohio, you can't do it in Tennessee. My guess 550 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:13,879 Speaker 4: is they'll do that here too, which I mean, I 551 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 4: get it, because you don't want players to be harassed 552 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:20,600 Speaker 4: like there were some players at other schools being harassed 553 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:22,880 Speaker 4: like you, I needed you to score eight point five 554 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 4: points and you scored seven boo. 555 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 5: So I get it. But yeah, I enjoy that. 556 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 6: But it's fun. 557 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 5: But I understand, I mean, it is what it is. 558 00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:39,159 Speaker 8: It's also if a player really wanted to do, you 559 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:42,920 Speaker 8: could shave you're under on rebounds much easier than you 560 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 8: could take a game. 561 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:45,199 Speaker 6: So I think that. 562 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:48,359 Speaker 5: It was a lot of fun. But I understand why. 563 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:48,840 Speaker 4: I get it. 564 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:52,159 Speaker 5: I mean, I I you know, I get it. 565 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:54,960 Speaker 4: You're supposed to please play responsibly, and if people don't, 566 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:55,719 Speaker 4: that's the way it goes. 567 00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 5: All right, I'm gonna go to the phones real quick. 568 00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 4: Here. One person, right, it's Matt. I don't understand your negativity. 569 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:04,879 Speaker 4: Why don't you think these changes will work well? No? 570 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:05,399 Speaker 5: Oh? 571 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:07,480 Speaker 4: And then another person writes, Matt, will you give me 572 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:11,240 Speaker 4: the context of how you think this stuff can work positively? 573 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:13,480 Speaker 5: So let me do that. To answer the first question, Okay, 574 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:17,240 Speaker 5: first of all, you have to believe. 575 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 4: That once the game gets on the court, the problems 576 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 4: we've seen will not occur anymore. The defense will get better, 577 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:27,840 Speaker 4: the physicality will get better while also playing offensively like 578 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:30,760 Speaker 4: we did this year, and the end of game stuff 579 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 4: will be better. So that's number one, and if that happens, 580 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 4: that's good. And then number two, you have to sort 581 00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:41,320 Speaker 4: of assume that the kind of terrible misorganization of that 582 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:45,720 Speaker 4: department gets fixed if both those things happen. Yes, I 583 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:50,320 Speaker 4: do think it can succeed, but if they don't, they 584 00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:53,200 Speaker 4: don't our Nisle's been a disaster the last couple of 585 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:56,560 Speaker 4: years for players transferred, for the guys coming in at 586 00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:58,440 Speaker 4: high school, it's not been a big deal. Cal to 587 00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 4: his credit, is able to sell the NBA to such 588 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:03,640 Speaker 4: such an extent that Nile is not really the big 589 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,200 Speaker 4: reason those guys come, although they do well in it. 590 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:10,480 Speaker 4: But for transfers, the Nile is the thing, and we 591 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:13,840 Speaker 4: have done a pretty poor job of doing what we've 592 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 4: said we would do. 593 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:18,720 Speaker 5: I'm just being real. That's just the reality. And it's 594 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:20,480 Speaker 5: gotten out there and people know it. 595 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:24,400 Speaker 4: And what Nate called the other day, again I can't 596 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:27,760 Speaker 4: confirm his circumstances, but he ain't the I got blown 597 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:28,960 Speaker 4: up with people saying. 598 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:31,200 Speaker 5: The same thing as soon it was as it was over, 599 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:32,040 Speaker 5: didn't you rhyme? 600 00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:35,440 Speaker 6: And which is this makes me sad that you know 601 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:37,560 Speaker 6: we should be at the forefront of something like that. 602 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:38,360 Speaker 6: We're Kentucky. 603 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 5: So hopefully that call actually spurs some change. 604 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:42,199 Speaker 6: Maybe yep, But. 605 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:46,000 Speaker 5: I give Mitch credit for saying all that needs to change. 606 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:48,760 Speaker 5: But at the same time, the question is will it 607 00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:51,760 Speaker 5: and I don't know a lot of these things. 608 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:53,680 Speaker 8: Cal knew about last summer, and he could have looked 609 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:54,919 Speaker 8: in the mirror and fixed him himself. 610 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:57,920 Speaker 5: Is what gives me. Kyle Tucker. 611 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:00,879 Speaker 4: Go back and read Kyle Tucker's article. He talks about 612 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 4: all of this and he got shouted down. And what 613 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:06,680 Speaker 4: I would say to our fan base, I'm not trying 614 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:09,480 Speaker 4: to yell at you all because I love our fan base. 615 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:13,080 Speaker 4: To me, as I said yesterday, BBN is what the 616 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:16,920 Speaker 4: program is. But folks have got to also look in 617 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:20,080 Speaker 4: the mirror. When you get bad news, if you shout 618 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:24,880 Speaker 4: it down, it only enables the bad behavior. Right, yep, 619 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:29,879 Speaker 4: It only enables the bad behavior when you go fake news. 620 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 5: And then you come back a year later and go, 621 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:35,240 Speaker 5: why is it like this? Well, somebody tried to tell 622 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:36,359 Speaker 5: you and you yelled at. 623 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:39,240 Speaker 8: Him, say, we're creating drama because we need clicks. No, 624 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:40,080 Speaker 8: we're trying to tell you. 625 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 5: You won't clicks, he won't come on you show. No, 626 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:47,680 Speaker 5: these are real problems. 627 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:51,840 Speaker 4: But when you make it to where the personality is 628 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:55,720 Speaker 4: bigger than the product, you will end up with a 629 00:28:55,880 --> 00:29:02,000 Speaker 4: situation like this. You know, I'll just use the party 630 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:05,160 Speaker 4: that I'm in When Obama was president, he did some 631 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:08,320 Speaker 4: things that I didn't like, but you couldn't criticize him 632 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:13,000 Speaker 4: because everyone loved him. The right is the same way 633 00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:15,000 Speaker 4: with Trump, some of them, and you know I'm right 634 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 4: about that, they'll defend any behavior because they like him. 635 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:22,280 Speaker 5: We can't do that. And you can't do it with 636 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:25,760 Speaker 5: basketball either, especially because I look out for Kentucky. 637 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 6: Look what Louisville did. 638 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:30,120 Speaker 4: For years, it did not matter what George and Patino 639 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:36,040 Speaker 4: did because Jenna hater. And then it all falls apart 640 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:38,560 Speaker 4: and you end up with the circus. Now that they're 641 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:43,920 Speaker 4: talking about hiring Bobby Huggins and Richard Patina, how long. 642 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:45,520 Speaker 8: Will that list get If they don't get rich Petino 643 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 8: or Bob Huggins, Where does it end that? 644 00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:48,960 Speaker 5: I didn't think they'd get this far down, Like what's 645 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 5: the next crazy name that could come up for them? Like, 646 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:54,040 Speaker 5: I don't know, I. 647 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 8: Don't really Bob Huggins and Richard Patino are honestly the 648 00:29:57,800 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 8: two I would. 649 00:29:58,360 --> 00:29:58,680 Speaker 5: Come up with. 650 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 4: Billy Gillespie, Billy bless me the listen, although I think 651 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:05,240 Speaker 4: you could make an argument he's more qualified than both 652 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:05,480 Speaker 4: of them. 653 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:07,240 Speaker 5: Maybe, So who's up first? 654 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:08,680 Speaker 6: Ship Judy Judy. 655 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 7: What's up, Judy, Judy, anytime you're ready, Judy, go ahead. 656 00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:22,960 Speaker 10: First thing I want to say is I'm so proud 657 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:27,720 Speaker 10: of my nephews Troy and Clark Haw for their coverage 658 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 10: of the Sweet sixteen boys basketball tournament. 659 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:34,040 Speaker 5: Yes, they did a great job. 660 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:40,840 Speaker 10: They did. And second is you know we struggle on defense. 661 00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:46,040 Speaker 10: Did we have a defensive assistant that was good at that? 662 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:54,960 Speaker 10: Was Kenny Payne good at that? Or a defensive coach? 663 00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:57,240 Speaker 5: I appreciate, Judy. I don't know who was kind of 664 00:30:57,320 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 5: in charge of defense with this group. I'm not even 665 00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:03,800 Speaker 5: miners is allegedly chin? Is it with Kenny? I think 666 00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:04,280 Speaker 5: a big thing. 667 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:06,600 Speaker 8: And this has been said publicly by players, and a 668 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:08,720 Speaker 8: lot of it has been in praising Kenny since he's. 669 00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:09,280 Speaker 5: Been at Louisville. 670 00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:11,520 Speaker 8: But that dude when he was at UK and you've 671 00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:13,239 Speaker 8: heard of all say it. They could call him at 672 00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:14,680 Speaker 8: two in the morning and he would get out of 673 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:16,480 Speaker 8: bed and be at the gym in fifteen minutes to 674 00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 8: work people out. That was like Kenny's gift, didn't minute, 675 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:21,240 Speaker 8: it matter the hour. He could be with his family, 676 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:22,640 Speaker 8: He could be in the middle of a round of 677 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:25,520 Speaker 8: golf if Julius Randall or one of those guys called 678 00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:27,080 Speaker 8: Kenny and said, I need an hour in the gym. 679 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:29,480 Speaker 8: He's there, and I think that has been missing a 680 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:33,360 Speaker 8: lot too. I think a lot of times availability with 681 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:35,520 Speaker 8: this staff, you know, they missed that a lot. That 682 00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:37,880 Speaker 8: was Kenny's strength and just you know, having a guy 683 00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:39,520 Speaker 8: come over at any time to work them out they miss. 684 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:42,040 Speaker 4: My guess is we'll have a different defensive coach next year. 685 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:44,480 Speaker 4: I think so didn't whatever it was that occurred, Just 686 00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:45,960 Speaker 4: to have a seat, fellas, who's up next? 687 00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:46,520 Speaker 3: Justin? 688 00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:48,520 Speaker 5: Justin? Go ahead, justin. If you don't want to sit 689 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:50,520 Speaker 5: so close, you've welcome to sit over there. It's up 690 00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:52,960 Speaker 5: to you. Some people, some people don't. 691 00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:54,760 Speaker 4: Want to hear me screaming while they're eating lunch, So 692 00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:56,160 Speaker 4: I understand, go ahead, justin. 693 00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:59,320 Speaker 11: Yes, I think the only way that this is going 694 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:01,200 Speaker 11: to work out is this one. Cal has to stop 695 00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:02,040 Speaker 11: mocking the fans. 696 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:02,720 Speaker 5: In two. 697 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:05,360 Speaker 11: I think he needs to go after Kenny Payne and 698 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:07,920 Speaker 11: John Ropick again. It has not been the same since 699 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:10,320 Speaker 11: both of them have least, and it has not been 700 00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:12,480 Speaker 11: the same ever since John Robick has left. He's the 701 00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:15,240 Speaker 11: exes and o's and he's been through. He's been with 702 00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:17,760 Speaker 11: Cal through most of his career. They need to go 703 00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:20,040 Speaker 11: after John Robick at all costs in order for this 704 00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:20,440 Speaker 11: to work. 705 00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:22,120 Speaker 5: In my opinion, Thank you all right. 706 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:25,800 Speaker 4: I appreciate the call. Uh yeah, the talk of down 707 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:27,920 Speaker 4: and the fans. I mean, I you know, you know 708 00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:30,320 Speaker 4: my opinion on that. You want to know how I'll 709 00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:33,920 Speaker 4: know if Cal's changed. Let's see what happens next year 710 00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:38,000 Speaker 4: when they win some games. That's what I want. I 711 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:40,840 Speaker 4: want to see what happens. Does he is he the 712 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:45,560 Speaker 4: CA you know. Go back and watch videos of Cal 713 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:51,479 Speaker 4: after wins twenty ten to twenty eighteen. Go look at 714 00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:55,240 Speaker 4: how gracious he is. There's a celebration, Joyce celebration. 715 00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:57,560 Speaker 5: Go look at how much fun he's having during the 716 00:32:57,640 --> 00:32:58,400 Speaker 5: postgame show. 717 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:03,240 Speaker 4: Then watch him after the Auburn game or after the 718 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:07,720 Speaker 4: Tennessee game, and just see, like, can you get back 719 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:10,920 Speaker 4: to that mindset? I loved what he said in that 720 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:12,920 Speaker 4: in that radio show where he said we all need 721 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:19,360 Speaker 4: to come together. You're the biggest part of that. You're 722 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:23,840 Speaker 4: the biggest part of that. All coming together is all. 723 00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:27,440 Speaker 4: I'll meet you there if we're winning, our fans will 724 00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:32,280 Speaker 4: meet you there. But you gotta come there too, and 725 00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:36,960 Speaker 4: you know, you got to bring people together. Everybody's got 726 00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:39,320 Speaker 4: to be part of that. And I think that's an 727 00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:41,680 Speaker 4: important thing. And we'll see if he's able to do it. 728 00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:42,240 Speaker 5: Who's next? 729 00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:44,360 Speaker 3: Shit, let's go to Dwayne. 730 00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:47,479 Speaker 5: Dwayne. What's up, Dwayne hey Man? 731 00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:51,160 Speaker 12: First time call her? Who listen? Listen. 732 00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:55,160 Speaker 13: I've got this hypothesis about. 733 00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:02,080 Speaker 5: Because we talked to you. I like that way he 734 00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:08,120 Speaker 5: uses the word that we talked. Yes, go ahead, and just. 735 00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:11,960 Speaker 12: A basis real quick though, you know, I think about 736 00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:14,960 Speaker 12: when cal Perry first came, some of the players he 737 00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:18,239 Speaker 12: had and the talent he had, you know, Wall and 738 00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:23,320 Speaker 12: Cousins and of course you know Anthony Davis, and I 739 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:26,440 Speaker 12: just think, you know, I'm not saying anything about this 740 00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:28,879 Speaker 12: team we've had this year. They're they're good players, don't 741 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:31,160 Speaker 12: get me wrong, but I just don't believe that they're 742 00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:32,960 Speaker 12: the caliber of players that we have. 743 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:34,160 Speaker 5: Those students don't come. 744 00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:37,000 Speaker 4: To be fair though, those dudes don't come around very often. 745 00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:39,880 Speaker 4: I mean, like, let's go look, since John Wall was. 746 00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:45,320 Speaker 5: Here, elite, elite, elite college basketball players, how many have 747 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:48,399 Speaker 5: come along since then? Wall was one? 748 00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:54,440 Speaker 4: And that's Anthony Davis was one. Zion was one, Carl 749 00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:59,480 Speaker 4: Towns was one. Cooper Flag that's going to Duke next 750 00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:02,240 Speaker 4: year's one. But they just ain't a lot of those guys. 751 00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:05,799 Speaker 13: So I mean that place to the point, that place 752 00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:08,520 Speaker 13: to the point that I'm trying to make. Yeah, I 753 00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:12,600 Speaker 13: feel like that John cal Perry, to me, has never 754 00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:16,200 Speaker 13: been a good coach. And when I say a coach, 755 00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:19,040 Speaker 13: I'm talking about you know, years ago there was a 756 00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:21,680 Speaker 13: sport made basketball and they said that guy that's head 757 00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:24,160 Speaker 13: over it's going to be called the coach. And his 758 00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:27,960 Speaker 13: main thing was to tell the players where they want 759 00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:31,160 Speaker 13: to be on the court. Uh, you know, obviously recruiting 760 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:33,440 Speaker 13: was a bigger thing, and I just. 761 00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:36,080 Speaker 4: Talent. 762 00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:38,680 Speaker 12: The talent has carried him well. 763 00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:40,680 Speaker 4: I appreciate the call. I don't totally agree with that, 764 00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:43,040 Speaker 4: But here's what I think his brilliance is as a coach. 765 00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:45,320 Speaker 5: Let's give him a compliment. 766 00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:48,680 Speaker 4: There ain't a better coach in the country who maybe 767 00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:53,120 Speaker 4: since John Wooden at taking talent, molding them, getting them 768 00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:56,879 Speaker 4: to buy in, and making them work together. Right, he's 769 00:35:56,920 --> 00:36:01,560 Speaker 4: got sacrificing their individual stuff. He's great at that and 770 00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:04,080 Speaker 4: in his best he's been the best at that. He 771 00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:06,960 Speaker 4: got ten dudes, all of whom could have been stars, 772 00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:10,600 Speaker 4: for teams to agree to platoon and go thirty eight more. 773 00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:16,400 Speaker 4: That's that's pretty good. Now what's happened in recent years? 774 00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:19,399 Speaker 4: To me, that's a different conversation. But I don't want 775 00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:21,160 Speaker 4: to like make it to where it's you just bag 776 00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:24,560 Speaker 4: on him, like he got ten guys, not eight of 777 00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:26,760 Speaker 4: whom played in the NBA, to agree to play twenty 778 00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:27,920 Speaker 4: minutes a game, and. 779 00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:30,680 Speaker 5: Devin Booker still brags about how he didn't start. That's crazy. 780 00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:34,040 Speaker 5: It's crazy. When you hear a waterfall in nature, that's 781 00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:35,640 Speaker 5: no cause for concern. But what if it's in your 782 00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:38,520 Speaker 5: house running? What if you're at Fenway Park and you 783 00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:40,279 Speaker 5: get a call that your house is on fire? 784 00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:42,280 Speaker 6: You cry in the suite. 785 00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:45,800 Speaker 5: You can't just go to David Ortiz and hugging. 786 00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:48,040 Speaker 4: Why Brian did you have to go to servepro dot 787 00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:52,080 Speaker 4: com one a hundred serve pro seer vp ro dot com. 788 00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:54,440 Speaker 4: Serve pro will come make it like it never even happened. 789 00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:57,319 Speaker 4: They'll clean up your fire, your water damage. It's all there. 790 00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:01,080 Speaker 4: It's serve Pro franchisor independently owned and operated. I hope 791 00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:03,319 Speaker 4: you don't ever need them. But if you do one 792 00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:06,160 Speaker 4: eight hundred serve pro orservepro dot com. We'll take a 793 00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:08,479 Speaker 4: break and be right back. It's wingsday here at ks Bars, 794 00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:14,839 Speaker 4: Kentucky Sports Radio. Walker back Tekey Sports Radio. I'm nine 795 00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:18,399 Speaker 4: two eight twenty two eighty seven. One person Rights, Matt. 796 00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:20,960 Speaker 4: You know there are rumors going around the internet. 797 00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:23,959 Speaker 5: With a post. Do you think they're true? 798 00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:27,200 Speaker 4: I do, I don't know. I mean, by the end 799 00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:29,000 Speaker 4: of the day, everybody will have seen that post true. 800 00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:32,640 Speaker 4: But I I can't really confirm almost any of that, 801 00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:33,279 Speaker 4: so I don't. 802 00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:33,759 Speaker 9: I don't know. 803 00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:36,000 Speaker 5: I usually hear a lot of gossip that one I 804 00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:38,160 Speaker 5: had not heard before. Yeah, but I mean maybe I 805 00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:41,960 Speaker 5: have no idea. I don't know. One person Rights, Matt. 806 00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:44,359 Speaker 4: You can't tell people how to fan if they don't 807 00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:49,680 Speaker 4: want articles like Kyle's out because they're a distraction, that's okay. Well, 808 00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:53,319 Speaker 4: I guess it's okay. But then you wonder why we lose, 809 00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:58,480 Speaker 4: you know. I mean, here's the thing. If you don't 810 00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:01,600 Speaker 4: want to know how the sausage is made, I get that, right, Like, 811 00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:05,040 Speaker 4: that's my view about when I buy food in grocery stores. 812 00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:08,040 Speaker 5: Don't tell me how it got there, you. 813 00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:10,160 Speaker 4: Know, I don't want to know, And maybe that's how 814 00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:12,640 Speaker 4: you'll be about basketball, right, Like maybe a fan's like 815 00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:14,480 Speaker 4: I don't want to know what's happening behind the scenes. 816 00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:16,520 Speaker 4: All I care about is whether they win or lose. Okay, 817 00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:19,440 Speaker 4: But then I don't think most people are like that. 818 00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:22,799 Speaker 4: I think most people want to know, like, why did 819 00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:23,680 Speaker 4: this not go well? 820 00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:26,560 Speaker 6: And correct me if I'm wrong. Didn't Kyle's article come 821 00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:29,759 Speaker 6: out in October before they even played one exhibition game? 822 00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:33,640 Speaker 5: Yes? And Kyle's article quoted five different people that were 823 00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:35,680 Speaker 5: on the staff, So. 824 00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:37,600 Speaker 6: That was even before this season even started. 825 00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:39,759 Speaker 5: Yeah, And I thought it was nice to some of them. 826 00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:42,160 Speaker 5: And I will note I'm. 827 00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:44,640 Speaker 4: Not saying these people were quoted in the article because 828 00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:46,240 Speaker 4: I have no idea because he didn't. 829 00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:47,200 Speaker 5: It's not like he told me. 830 00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:49,720 Speaker 4: But let me go look at some of the people 831 00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:52,239 Speaker 4: that have left us in the last couple of years, 832 00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:53,319 Speaker 4: and let's see how they did. 833 00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:58,239 Speaker 5: Where Joe Justice go he'sidency state? 834 00:38:58,520 --> 00:38:59,960 Speaker 6: Where are they in Sweet sixteen? 835 00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:03,320 Speaker 5: Where did Jay Lucas go Duke Quickly? 836 00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:05,680 Speaker 6: And where are they Sweet sixteen? 837 00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:08,760 Speaker 5: Where did TJ. Bisner go North Carolina? 838 00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:11,400 Speaker 6: And where did where are they Sweet sixteen? 839 00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:16,520 Speaker 4: So you know, oftentimes it's very easy to sort of 840 00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:21,520 Speaker 4: blame the people that left. And let me say, I 841 00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:23,880 Speaker 4: like j Lucas and Buisner. I didn't really have a 842 00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:28,920 Speaker 4: great relationship with Justice. But the point is they're still playing, so. 843 00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:33,160 Speaker 5: You know, it is what it is. Forget our video 844 00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:35,680 Speaker 5: guy left to go to Temple there. 845 00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:39,640 Speaker 8: But I'm just saying, you're you're at Kentucky basketball and 846 00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:41,880 Speaker 8: you're looking around like, I bet it's better at Temple. 847 00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:46,320 Speaker 4: One person writes, uh, this for Shannon. Have you watched 848 00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:50,600 Speaker 4: the Tracker? Because I saw on basketball all weekend that 849 00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:51,920 Speaker 4: we needed to watch Tracker. 850 00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:53,040 Speaker 5: Did you watch Tracker? 851 00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:53,360 Speaker 7: No? 852 00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:55,920 Speaker 5: I have not, have you No? 853 00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:59,360 Speaker 4: I know my friend the Turkey Hunter loves it and 854 00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:00,960 Speaker 4: I think it's kind of of a joke, but he's 855 00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:02,160 Speaker 4: always like, I love the trip. 856 00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:04,080 Speaker 5: But like they advertised, that's the show. 857 00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:07,440 Speaker 4: If that show doesn't get good ratings from this tournament, 858 00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:08,279 Speaker 4: that I don't know what you do. 859 00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:09,840 Speaker 5: Because they talked about it every. 860 00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:13,400 Speaker 6: Five minutes every CBS commercial break. You got a promo 861 00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:13,919 Speaker 6: for that show? 862 00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:14,719 Speaker 5: Did you see? 863 00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:17,919 Speaker 4: Rich Eisen asked DJ Burns yesterday when he got fat, 864 00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:21,200 Speaker 4: Oh wow, did he word it just like that? 865 00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:23,160 Speaker 5: And he said when did you put on all your 866 00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:25,640 Speaker 5: weight over the course of time? 867 00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:28,000 Speaker 4: And people in the comments section were like they should 868 00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:29,400 Speaker 4: have looked at rich Aisen go when. 869 00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:33,440 Speaker 5: Did you go ball? I thought that was it? 870 00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:38,320 Speaker 4: Like objectively, the reason we all like him is that size. 871 00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:40,440 Speaker 4: At the same time, though, do you have to like 872 00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:41,480 Speaker 4: throw it in his face? 873 00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:42,520 Speaker 5: You know? 874 00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:45,600 Speaker 8: I know we talked about faus can remember if we 875 00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:47,160 Speaker 8: said it on this show, But like when they brought 876 00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:49,719 Speaker 8: him to Sunday was on the EF he played? Well 877 00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:51,520 Speaker 8: did you take everyone in ice Cream Sunday? 878 00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:53,000 Speaker 5: How do they had a good game? I mean you 879 00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:53,440 Speaker 5: can tell. 880 00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:55,719 Speaker 4: DJ Burns is like, what why am I need a 881 00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:58,200 Speaker 4: Sunday Why? I mean, like, I don't get it, Shannon. 882 00:40:58,280 --> 00:40:59,879 Speaker 4: Why did they just throw it in his face? 883 00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:02,279 Speaker 3: You have all the questions to ask the guy who's 884 00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:04,880 Speaker 3: in the Sweet sixteen. You talk about his weight that 885 00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:06,680 Speaker 3: when when'd you get so big? 886 00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:07,000 Speaker 6: Yeah? 887 00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:08,440 Speaker 5: Always been a fatty? 888 00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:11,160 Speaker 3: There any tactfulness at all? 889 00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:15,120 Speaker 5: I just feel like give it, Like, who's next? Fun 890 00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:15,560 Speaker 5: to watch them? 891 00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:18,359 Speaker 4: Let's go to Larry Cream Abdul Jabbar in the final four? 892 00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:21,840 Speaker 4: It's right, yeah, the n I t go ahead Jabbari Larry, 893 00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:23,160 Speaker 4: Larry or Jabari? 894 00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:25,080 Speaker 3: Where did that come from? 895 00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:25,880 Speaker 6: Larry? 896 00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:28,440 Speaker 5: Go ahead, Larry, Larry, go ahead, Larry. 897 00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:33,000 Speaker 3: Okay, Well let's go. Let's go to Bill. 898 00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:35,919 Speaker 5: Got about a minute, j Jill go ahead, Bill, Bill, 899 00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:38,680 Speaker 5: Okay to quick points one? 900 00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:40,239 Speaker 9: What do we do next year? 901 00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:48,800 Speaker 5: Take me off, speaker, Bill, No, but go ahead, Okay. 902 00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:49,280 Speaker 13: I'm sorry. 903 00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:52,279 Speaker 9: What happens if we go thirty two and two in 904 00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:55,440 Speaker 9: the SEC regular season in the tournament and lose in 905 00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:58,759 Speaker 9: the second game in a how do we evaluate that? 906 00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:01,439 Speaker 9: And secondly, I want to be king at the fact 907 00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:08,759 Speaker 9: if the tournament, it's a very simple tournament, I would 908 00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:10,520 Speaker 9: have been every dollar I had that we would beat 909 00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:12,560 Speaker 9: open one game. 910 00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:15,520 Speaker 5: Well, you can't judge I say this all the time. 911 00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:18,080 Speaker 4: You can't judge a coach by one tournament, but you 912 00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:22,040 Speaker 4: can judge a coach by fifteen or five. And that's 913 00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:24,320 Speaker 4: the issue. If we just lost to Oakland, not the 914 00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:25,839 Speaker 4: biggest thing in the world, but we lost to Saint 915 00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:27,680 Speaker 4: Peter's two years ago, We'll take a break.