1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,000 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to the Best of the Odd Couple podcasts. 2 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:06,080 Speaker 1: Be sure to catch us live every weekday from seven 3 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:10,319 Speaker 1: pm to ten pm Eastern four to seven Pacific on 4 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio. Find your local station for The Odd 5 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:16,800 Speaker 1: Couple at Fox Sports Radio dot com, or stream us 6 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:21,280 Speaker 1: live every day on the iHeartRadio app by searching FSR. 7 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 2: You're listening to the Best of the Odd. 8 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 3: Couple last night? What did I said? I wanted to 9 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 3: see them get Joe? 10 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 4: You got what you asked for? 11 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 5: Did not? 12 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:32,199 Speaker 4: I say? 13 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 1: I said I wanted them to get Molly mollywopped, and. 14 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:39,519 Speaker 4: That's what happened, Rob g What happened? 15 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:42,560 Speaker 6: To say they got Mollywop would be an understatement, all right. 16 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:47,239 Speaker 6: Bill Belichick, in his coaching debut for UNC suffered the 17 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:51,240 Speaker 6: second biggest regular season loss of his head coaching career. 18 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 6: And we all know that Bill Belichick has been coaching 19 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 6: since Moby Dick was a good That's right. 20 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 7: I thought you about to say nineteen eighty seven. 21 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:03,280 Speaker 1: I was gonna say say since Luisiana purchase right was 22 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 1: in escrow. 23 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:06,679 Speaker 6: So got just to give you context as to how 24 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 6: bad it was not just for Bill, well for North 25 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:11,919 Speaker 6: Carolina as a whole again. Thirty four point lost, second 26 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 6: largest regular season loss of Belichick's head coaching career. The 27 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 6: forty eight points they gave up the most Belichick has 28 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 6: ever allowed in his head coaching career. For reference, he's 29 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 6: coached four hundred and sixty eight regular season games and 30 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 6: he's only even trailed by thirty four plus points, which 31 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:31,679 Speaker 6: was the end result four times in five hundred and 32 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 6: eleven total games as a head coach. 33 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 4: And as if that wasn't bad enough. 34 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 6: North Carolina, which as we know, is not what you 35 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 6: would call a football factory. Even with that said, historically 36 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 6: bad night for the Heels. Okay, here we go. North 37 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 6: Carolina allowed the most points in his season opener last night, 38 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 6: forty one in their program's history. The next closest was 39 00:01:57,520 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 6: in two thousand and one. They also lost by their 40 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 6: greatest margin in any game since two thoy and eighteen. 41 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:08,240 Speaker 6: And here's the last one for all you, Bill Belichick. 42 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 6: Truther Chapel, Bill mac Brown, his predecessor, had never lost 43 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 6: the game by that margin during his second stin in 44 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 6: North Carolina, and of course he was asked unceremoniously in 45 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 6: favor of. 46 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 1: Them, I thought I saw somewhere where they gave up 47 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 1: seventy three points in the game. Is that not true 48 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 1: with mac. 49 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 4: Brown in his first this was his second. 50 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 1: Okay, all right, I was just gonna say I thought 51 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:31,080 Speaker 1: I read that somewhere. I just want to make sure 52 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:34,239 Speaker 1: so all around awful, and I came away with one 53 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:35,240 Speaker 1: thing and one thing only. 54 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 4: I'm rooting. 55 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:42,640 Speaker 1: Openly rooting for Bill Belichick to fail at North Carolina. 56 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 1: And let me tell you why why. I have nothing 57 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 1: personal against Bill Belichick. I don't know the guy. He's 58 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 1: never done anything to me wrong. I know people always say, oh. 59 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 4: What did you sleep with your wife? 60 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 3: Why are you so antiis? 61 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:58,640 Speaker 4: Or that no cut hoodies? That's okay problem, miss. 62 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 1: No, I don't know the man personally. It ain't about 63 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 1: the cheating that he did in New England. That ain't 64 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:05,960 Speaker 1: the reason. 65 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:06,520 Speaker 4: Okay. 66 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 3: It's the stuff at North Carolina that I'm rooting against. 67 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 3: You know what I'm rooting against. 68 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 4: What's that? 69 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 1: Nepotism? Cronyism. Look at his look at his staff, friends, family, kids, 70 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:28,359 Speaker 1: all this stuff. I'm rooting against nepotism. I'm rooting against 71 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:32,360 Speaker 1: his girlfriend being in the huddle or being on the field. 72 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 1: Bill Belichick is seventy three years old. I don't remember 73 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 1: ever seeing his wife on the sidelines run a game. 74 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 3: Tell me I'm wrong. 75 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 4: Have you ever seen her? 76 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 1: She was Casper the ghosts if she was out there, 77 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 1: because I never saw her. And this girlfriend is up 78 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 1: robbed sasheting up and down. Bill is like, okay, he 79 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 1: was there with one coach. Did you see the coach 80 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 1: turn away? Because you know, maybe she's saying something. He 81 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 1: turned away because he was like, maybe I shouldn't hear. 82 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 4: Ray. 83 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 1: You're on a football field, you're a coach, this is 84 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 1: his girlfriend. 85 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 4: What are you turning away from? 86 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 3: The conversation with Bill Belichick there in the center. 87 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 4: Of the field. 88 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 1: And and the other part is them trying to make 89 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 1: money off the Hulu you know documentary And I'm against 90 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 1: all of that. Like coach football, that stuff should come, 91 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:29,839 Speaker 1: and it comes if you were to turn his program around, 92 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:33,280 Speaker 1: but not the other stuff. And then the last thing 93 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:37,920 Speaker 1: they had to goll the audacity to go get a 94 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 1: trademark for gold Digger. 95 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 3: They should have got a. 96 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:44,479 Speaker 1: Trademark for Golden Corral because that's where she would be 97 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 1: working if it wasn't for Bill. 98 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:49,279 Speaker 3: How about that? So I'm against all of that. 99 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 4: I'm on the. 100 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:55,160 Speaker 1: Record, I want North Carolina to lose every game that 101 00:04:55,200 --> 00:05:02,279 Speaker 1: Bill Belichick is involved in because Rob Parker is anti nepotism, 102 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 1: anti your girlfriend running the football team when she has 103 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 1: no business being out there, anti making money and doing 104 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:13,039 Speaker 1: all this other stuff when you haven't done Jack there 105 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 1: with the Hulu and her on social media. Look at that, 106 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 1: how well we're doing it our documentary and all this. 107 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:24,719 Speaker 3: I'm against it. All this is so unlike. 108 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 1: I was never a Bill Belichick guy from the cheating scandal. 109 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:32,839 Speaker 1: You say this, I'm not standing for, and I'm telling 110 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 1: you right now, I'm openly hoping that this winds up 111 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 1: being a total disaster for Bill Belichick. 112 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 7: Well, let me tell you something. We were sitting here yesterday. 113 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 7: We talked about Chapel Hill. 114 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 4: Bill. 115 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 7: It looked Mark like kill Bill. To me, it was 116 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:51,480 Speaker 7: a massacre. It was a beatdown. It was terrible, it 117 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 7: was embarrassing. And I believe it's only a bit of 118 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 7: what's to come. 119 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 1: Now. 120 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 7: I don't think every single game will be such a 121 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:01,159 Speaker 7: widespread in the score like this. But you elaborate, You 122 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 7: said so many things. I'm just gonna laborate on a 123 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 7: few things. The reason why this isn't gonna work is 124 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 7: because multiple reasons. One the catch twenty two of it all. 125 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:12,359 Speaker 7: He needs to win fast in order for players to go, 126 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 7: oh shoot, look what he's doing, and maybe he can 127 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 7: usher in an NFL factory line and get guys to 128 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 7: the league. But in order to win fast, you gotta 129 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 7: have players. But you gotta get players when you win, 130 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 7: and you know what, that takes time, and you know what, 131 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 7: he don't have time. 132 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 4: So it's not about to happen. 133 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 1: You think anybody who plays high school football watched that 134 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 1: game last night? 135 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:32,360 Speaker 3: I said, oh yeah, I want to go to North Camp. 136 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 7: If that was a kid who was like, yo, North Carolina, 137 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 7: Bill Bell, he's got six Super Bowl ring. They just 138 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:40,479 Speaker 7: ripped up their letter and intent to go play. It 139 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:41,920 Speaker 7: just got ripped. Let me tell you it's in a 140 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:44,839 Speaker 7: bunch of shutters right now. The intent to play for Unz, 141 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:48,119 Speaker 7: they might as well call it unk. I'm not playing 142 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 7: for the unk. I'm not playing for him right now. Now, 143 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 7: let me continue on why this isn't gonna work. What 144 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 7: I'm also tripping on is you can't teach all old 145 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 7: dog new tricks. At least that's what I thought they 146 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 7: lied to me because this old dog told me no 147 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:06,920 Speaker 7: distractions locked in. We're on the Cincinnati all this. Now 148 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 7: I see him as on book tours, He's got it 149 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 7: shows with his girl. He's arguing in the Robert Kraft 150 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 7: like he had at seventy some year old, arguing with 151 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 7: an eighty something year old. 152 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 4: He's doing this, He's doing it. 153 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 7: I've seen him more in the last year with interviews 154 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 7: than I've seen him in twenty something years, popping on 155 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 7: everybody's podcast, interviews and shows, which is fine if that's 156 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 7: what he was gonna do, which might have been al 157 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 7: right at TV doing that a little different, get a 158 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 7: different spin of different side of Bill. Now we got 159 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 7: his girlfriend. We never, like you said, we never really 160 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 7: saw wives or anybody. Now she's popping up everywhere we 161 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 7: saw a wife or a girlfriend. Absolutely, And then this 162 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 7: was also what was bad about the kill Bill massacre. 163 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 4: If there was nothing else you could hang your hat 164 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 4: on with him. 165 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 7: It was defense like that that has been in Staple. 166 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 7: It was with the Staple, with the Giants when henew 167 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 7: Bill Parcels, when they won those six Super Bowls. Look 168 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 7: at their defense was top five every year. Absolutely, and 169 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 7: That's one of the things that Tom Brady had in 170 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 7: his favor was dang it, if nothing else is working, 171 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 7: I know, I got a great defense and a great 172 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 7: special team. 173 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 4: The defense was trash. 174 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 7: So if they were out there and they lost, you know, okay, 175 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 7: twenty to three, you all right, we're working on offense. 176 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 7: It takes time, okay, but the defense solid held on 177 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 7: only twenty you know, that's not bad. You can't get 178 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 7: beat down like that in all fasts of the game. 179 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 7: And we were talking about this yesterday. They showed the 180 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 7: clock ticking. They said they had had a first down 181 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 7: and in since eighteen eight seventeen PM or whatever it was. 182 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 1: It went two hour, two hours of a regular time, 183 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 1: not football time, two hours. 184 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 7: So that that was the bat to me. You at 185 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 7: least expect a showing in some facet like man, all right, well, shoot, defensively, 186 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:46,200 Speaker 7: they gonna be a problem. You know, they gotta work 187 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 7: on and get the quarterback. He's a transfer. 188 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:48,079 Speaker 4: Okay. 189 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:51,080 Speaker 7: It wasn't nothing to hain't get on. It wasn't a 190 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 7: hat hook in sight. Couldn't hang my hat on nothing. 191 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 7: He made MJ fadeaway, MJ. You know how he let 192 00:08:56,679 --> 00:08:58,320 Speaker 7: a fader he did it again. He phased, just left 193 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 7: and I'm gonna get on the boto here Bill, I'm 194 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:02,720 Speaker 7: gonna get some sleep. And they don't go to a 195 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 7: cigar lounge in the middle of now, you know you 196 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:05,440 Speaker 7: love the cigar lounge. 197 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 4: No, that was terrible. 198 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:07,439 Speaker 3: After that, I don't know. 199 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:12,559 Speaker 7: LT left up crazy. What we saw LT at the 200 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 7: Super Bowl. Don't have him come sack you. And where 201 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 7: we're about to be in the Bay Area this year 202 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 7: coming up Super Bowl? What are you about to say 203 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:18,680 Speaker 7: about LT. 204 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:20,679 Speaker 3: After that performance? 205 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 4: You might go to rehab. 206 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 3: I'm just saying, see football rehab. 207 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 4: Make it six years now. 208 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 7: I gotta jump in the middle between him and LT. 209 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 7: He gonna treat me like any give us. 210 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 1: I said football rehab that he don't want to watch 211 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 1: any bad for it. 212 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 7: You're gonna be in physical rehab that work, working on 213 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:40,840 Speaker 7: your back, stretching you out. 214 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 4: No, man, listen. The only thing I'll disagree with you on. 215 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 4: You know me. 216 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 7: We've argued about this a million times. I don't mind nepotism. Ah, 217 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 7: I do, I know, but I don't know. 218 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get my cousin, my nephew to do do 219 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 1: your show, do your job. 220 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:56,199 Speaker 7: Who's sitting next to me right now? Who's sitting next 221 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 7: to me right now? Who's sitting next to me right now? 222 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 3: That's not nepotism, that's my robb Gi Dylan. 223 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 7: What's the dudey shout out to Dylan watch the countdown 224 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 7: before next thing? I know he caused me. He's like, yeah, 225 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 7: remember Dylan, Yeah, yeah, I was just saying, man, maybe 226 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 7: you know what I'm saying. We're gonna bring them on. 227 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 7: He gonna be like, you know what I'm saying that? 228 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 7: And Dylan gonna have a job here, Robzi how many 229 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:16,440 Speaker 7: people work were used to be around Rob? Not got 230 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 7: a job here? Dag I did show him two times 231 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 7: last week and rot and weise. What's you got to 232 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 7: say to that? I'm not related to any of those people, 233 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:25,560 Speaker 7: don't know. 234 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Odd Couple 235 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:32,439 Speaker 2: with Rob Parker and kelvin Washington weekdays at seven pm 236 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 2: Eastern four pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the 237 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:37,200 Speaker 2: iHeartRadio app. 238 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 8: Hey, it's Ben, host of the Fifth Hour with Ben 239 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:43,199 Speaker 8: Maller along with my trustee sidekick David Gascon. 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Listen 249 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 8: to the Fifth Hour with Ben Mather or the iHeartRadio app, 250 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:08,960 Speaker 8: Apple Podcast or wherever you get your podcast. 251 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 6: Yeah, this is something that's been building, you know, even 252 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:14,080 Speaker 6: before the trade, but since the trade is We talked 253 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 6: about it when you were out robbed. Me and Kelvin 254 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 6: were talking and we agreed that once this trade was official, 255 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:22,840 Speaker 6: the Micah Parsons hit pieces, We're gonna be glorious. 256 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 2: You know. 257 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 4: It's they were all coming. 258 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:26,439 Speaker 6: It's like when the Lakers, anything happened with them, there's 259 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 6: always a hit piece in the chamber for the athletic 260 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:31,199 Speaker 6: or ESPN. Well, the Dallas Cowboys like the Lakers of 261 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 6: the NFL. So we knew this was all coming. It 262 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 6: started last week when the Forward Star Telegram reported and 263 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 6: Jerry Jones confirmed that the decision to move off of 264 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 6: Michael Parsons was quote unanimous both in terms of the 265 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:48,840 Speaker 6: front office, the coaching staff, and several player leaders as 266 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 6: they called them, all agreed that, hey, if you don't 267 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 6: want to be here, get him out of here. 268 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 1: And that's always something we talked about it before. Don't 269 00:11:56,960 --> 00:11:59,560 Speaker 1: be asking for trade if you ain't serious about it, 270 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 1: you put that out there, you know what I mean, 271 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 1: Like there's a chance people say, especially oh you don't, 272 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 1: you just can't do that? Go ahead, sure. 273 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 6: And then the next day Albert Brier, friend of the 274 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 6: show MMQB, reported in his column that more specifically, the 275 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 6: Micah Parsons podcast had rubbed a lot of people the 276 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 6: wrong way, including but not limited to quarterback Dak Prescott. 277 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 6: You recall he did that top ten list and then 278 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 6: left that out of it was a big talking point. Well, 279 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 6: today ESPN published a full length piece. They dispatched four 280 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 6: different NFL writers for this, so let's let you know 281 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 6: they're heavily invested in this story. And in the report 282 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:40,960 Speaker 6: they discuss how Michael Parson's behavior, especially during training camp 283 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:43,840 Speaker 6: here towards the end right not wearing his practice jersey, 284 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 6: he came to practice without shoes on. 285 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 4: He's eating notches in the locker room. He's laying down 286 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 4: at the trainer's table. 287 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 3: They're dead laying down. 288 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:52,320 Speaker 1: Seriously, that was when you crossed the line, like you're 289 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 1: making a mockery of the game. 290 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:57,440 Speaker 6: That it rubbed everybody the wrong way, coaches, players included, 291 00:12:57,720 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 6: with one team source saying that his energy in and 292 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 6: around the team was quote deflating. 293 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:08,960 Speaker 7: So I said this last week, when you're Michael Parsons, 294 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:11,840 Speaker 7: even if you fell scorn, even if you felt like 295 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:14,680 Speaker 7: Jerry had, you know, maybe ruined the relationship that you 296 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 7: once had with him, you can't out Jerry. 297 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:17,200 Speaker 4: Jerry. 298 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 7: Jerry's the owner. Jerry's been doing this for thirty plus years. 299 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:24,959 Speaker 7: Jerry's done stuff. The fans hate it. Guess what they do. 300 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 7: They go out and buy tickets and buy jerseys and 301 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:29,959 Speaker 7: talk about the Cowboys and do it and throw and 302 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 7: throw remote at their TVs and still watch the Cowboys. 303 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 7: Meaning they ain't going nowhere with Jerry. That's their team. 304 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 7: They're all a part of Cowboy Nation. How about them Cowboys? 305 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 7: But Micah, what you can do is by acting like 306 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 7: a brat and by doing all that and pouting, and 307 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:45,320 Speaker 7: I understand you might have felt like you were, you know, 308 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 7: being disrespected. I understand that that's gonna fall on you. 309 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:51,719 Speaker 7: The systems always fall on the lower man, so it's 310 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:53,720 Speaker 7: gonna fall on the player instead of the owner. And 311 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:55,559 Speaker 7: then the fans are gonna look at you, and your 312 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 7: other teammates are gonna look at you. Now we have reports. 313 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 7: We talked about it last week. You were saying, Robb 314 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 7: g with this stuff was gonna come out where teammates 315 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 7: you're gonna start already question his leadership. And one of 316 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:08,320 Speaker 7: the continual things that came up is the podcast. And 317 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 7: Rob and I have talked about it for a whole 318 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 7: year essentially that we've been doing this show together. Nobody's 319 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:15,720 Speaker 7: saying you can't do a pod. My thought was, do 320 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:17,440 Speaker 7: a pot on something else, you like, do a pot 321 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 7: on the NBA, do a pot on parenting, do a 322 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 7: pot on on Penn Stak football where you're on dogs 323 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 7: going a restaurant exactly. 324 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 4: I'm signed up for that. 325 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 7: Put me on like dogs looking peaches, Yes, you and 326 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 7: the peaches, but let me continue peaches. 327 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 4: So my whole thing is this is gonna look. 328 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 7: Bad on you because you're pouting, You're throwing a temper 329 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 7: tantrum and now everybody's viewing you on this and also 330 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 7: going back to the podcast, this needs to be an opportunity, 331 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 7: Rob G. Because I believe there are two sides, especially 332 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 7: when a breakup. Right, this is what Jerry Jones and 333 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 7: the Cowboys gonna say, this is Mike and his agent 334 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 7: are gonna say. Ultimately, there's a third side, which is 335 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 7: the truth. Now that you're a packer, what I need 336 00:14:57,120 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 7: from you is to go in there and focus. What 337 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 7: I need for you is to refine your leadership because 338 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 7: it's okay to reassess in the regroup. Right, some of 339 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 7: what they if everybody's calling you crazy, Rob, what they 340 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 7: what it might be that you're crazy, meaning if a 341 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 7: lot of people are questioning leadership. A lot of people 342 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 7: didn't like this. A lot of your own teammates went 343 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 7: to coaches said, man, we don't know. This guy's getting 344 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 7: out of control, especially with the podcast putting accountability on 345 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 7: everybody else but him. 346 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 4: These guys suck, the coaches suck. We gotta do that. 347 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 7: Now he has an opportunity to resay, and to me, 348 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 7: I look at this as don't go there doing the same, 349 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 7: being the same because a lot of people question you 350 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 7: when you change. 351 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 4: Oh you done went to Green Bay. Now you change? 352 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 7: You let Jerry Jones, Punky, now you change. No, I'm 353 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 7: refining my leadership. I'm changing who I am a bit. 354 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 7: I'm tweaking how I go about my business. And one 355 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 7: of the things I would advise them is the same 356 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 7: thing we've talked about is what the podcast. Make it 357 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:49,960 Speaker 7: a thing of the podcast. Put it in your past. 358 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 7: Paul pot Istead A podcast pod can't Okay, I can't 359 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 7: do it anymore? 360 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 4: Podcast away? Put it away. 361 00:15:57,360 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 7: And the reason I say that is because nothing good 362 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 7: comes out of it, and you don't have to do it. 363 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 7: And now you don't want to create an atmosphere in 364 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 7: a new place where they has stability. 365 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 4: You're the new guy where you start to ruffle feather. 366 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 1: Right, let me ask you this. Yes, you're Green Bay. Okay, 367 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:12,239 Speaker 1: do you say. 368 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 4: Please? 369 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:15,119 Speaker 3: No podcast? 370 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 4: Do you do? 371 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 3: You know what I mean? 372 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 4: Do you? 373 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 1: I believe that as as the new organization. Hey, Michael, 374 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 1: we love you, we just gave you this money, all this. 375 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 1: We just wanted to be focused during the football season. Please. 376 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 7: I don't think they don't they do that because I 377 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 7: don't why I think you said that. 378 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 5: Total. 379 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 7: I think they do overt suggestion, overt jokes. Oh see 380 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 7: all right, Michael, don't come in here. You're putting me 381 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 7: on your pod like a you're Matt Lafloor like ha ha, 382 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 7: we weak mother love it. 383 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:43,880 Speaker 4: Don't put me on there. 384 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 9: Uh. 385 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 1: But my thing is why why should you be afraid 386 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 1: to tell somebody who you're employed, who you want their 387 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 1: full focus to be, and say, here in Green Bay, Michaeh, 388 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 1: nobody has a podcast. 389 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 3: This is not I They're not directed at you. 390 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 1: Here in Green Bay, we want football to be that 391 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:05,679 Speaker 1: focus for the next six months. And this is what 392 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:06,160 Speaker 1: we're all. 393 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 7: Is the era of player empowerment and also just employ 394 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 7: ye empowerment. 395 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 4: And there are things that used to be that you 396 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:17,399 Speaker 4: didn't do that. 397 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 7: Maybe you didn't post on your social media, maybe it 398 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 7: was too risque. And now employer can't come to you 399 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 7: nobody because they're gonna be like, well, I can't wear that. 400 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 4: I can't Who are you are you putting me in? 401 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:27,399 Speaker 7: No? 402 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:30,880 Speaker 4: You can, Okay, good luck in twenty twenty five. 403 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:35,400 Speaker 1: But my only problem is the issue in Dallas wasn't 404 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 1: you weren't defensive player of the Year, Your defense wasn't 405 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:43,679 Speaker 1: ranked number one. They weren't giving up forty pieces you know, 406 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 1: in games that you played in and all that, and 407 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:47,639 Speaker 1: you go on your podcast saying. 408 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:49,160 Speaker 3: You did your je I did my job. 409 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:51,120 Speaker 1: I don't know what you want me to do kind 410 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:54,880 Speaker 1: of thing, which is basically implying that everybody else didn't 411 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 1: do their job. I'm just saying, if I'm Matt Lafleur, 412 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 1: I have that conversation. Maybe they did before they even 413 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 1: got there to say we really want you, ay, and 414 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 1: we've shown them. We gave up two first round picks, 415 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:11,400 Speaker 1: a pro all the money, Pro Bowl and all the money. 416 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 7: Okay, but Buck thirty six guaranteed. 417 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 4: You know what I mean. 418 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 7: I think you want to have that conversation. I think 419 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 7: you're scared to force him, like if you don't do this, No, 420 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 7: I don't want to like, but I absolutely believe you 421 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 7: suggest you you imply, and I think you hopeing her 422 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:28,639 Speaker 7: David will get his agent. I think if you're his agent, 423 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:31,399 Speaker 7: you say, hey, man, you know part of this is 424 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:34,159 Speaker 7: always marketing, brand and and focusing. Let's use this as 425 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:36,600 Speaker 7: a chance to rebrand what Micah can be. Let's use 426 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:39,199 Speaker 7: this as a chance to change the perception of you. 427 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:42,240 Speaker 7: Let's go in here be locked in laser focus and 428 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 7: now we can you know, kind of bring that to 429 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:46,359 Speaker 7: the new Micah in Green Bay. 430 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:47,800 Speaker 3: And let's not forget. 431 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 7: Uh. 432 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:52,440 Speaker 1: The Athletic reported in February that the Jets told Aaron 433 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:55,399 Speaker 1: Rodgers that he wouldn't be welcome back if with the 434 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 1: team if he continued to do McAfee show. 435 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:00,719 Speaker 3: Like they just were like, we don't want this. 436 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 1: The difference though, No, I'm just saying like, like, so, 437 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:05,680 Speaker 1: so a team did say it and end up wind 438 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 1: up moving, you know on anyway. 439 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 4: That's why I think it's different. It's easy. You almost 440 00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 4: want to do that, so go screw it. 441 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:13,880 Speaker 1: I'm out, yes, but he's but still a request was made, 442 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:16,119 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, not that it was an issue, 443 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 1: and and and and I understand like you're not trying 444 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 1: to dictate everything, but you're trying to be all on 445 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 1: the same page. 446 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:26,480 Speaker 3: It's only now, Okay, you. 447 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:28,600 Speaker 1: Had the thing with Dak Now are you going to 448 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:32,399 Speaker 1: be doing stuff about Jordan love and start calling him 449 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 1: Jordan like. 450 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:35,440 Speaker 3: Or I like him, but I don't love him. 451 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 7: If a player leaves, do you talk about him like 452 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 7: you did DeMarcus Lawrence? Remember, you know what I saying 453 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 7: that who was a who was a big time pleasence 454 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:44,960 Speaker 7: in that locker room, and they got into it just 455 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 7: because he and it just yes. So I'm hoping he 456 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 7: uses this as a time to retool, to focus in, 457 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 7: lock in it, because listen, I was telling rog G 458 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 7: this earlier. Kobe Bryant the last not the last last 459 00:19:57,320 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 7: when he was be down and broken, right, but those 460 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 7: that years when making the championship runs and competing three 461 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:04,399 Speaker 7: back to back to back, going to the finals, winning 462 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 7: two out of three that run, he had to refine 463 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:11,359 Speaker 7: himself as a leader. Socking Samaki Walker on the plane, 464 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 7: wasn't it, yelling at everybody all the time, wasn't it? 465 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 7: He had to get some better talent, for sure, But 466 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 7: he also had to eat these are his own words. 467 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:22,640 Speaker 7: He had to find ways to lead better. We read 468 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:25,959 Speaker 7: or he Phil Jackson book. Between Kobe MJ. I had 469 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 7: to teach them and work with them on leadership. And 470 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 7: my whole point is this is that phrase, he's twenty six, 471 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:32,679 Speaker 7: You've already been all pro, You've been all that. How 472 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:34,320 Speaker 7: about now we lock in and folks to be that 473 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 7: guy the next six year, that kind of leader, that 474 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:38,880 Speaker 7: being that guy in the locker room because you don't 475 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:42,200 Speaker 7: want that to be your thing. You're you're a bad 476 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 7: guy in the locker room. You don't want that to 477 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 7: carry along with you. 478 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:47,240 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 479 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:50,639 Speaker 2: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio 480 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:54,879 Speaker 2: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app search FSR to 481 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:55,680 Speaker 2: listen live. 482 00:20:56,119 --> 00:21:01,200 Speaker 7: Joe Montana is there's three guys that if you say 483 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 7: are the goat, I'm not like, I'm never gonna be 484 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:05,679 Speaker 7: mad at Joe Montana, never gonna be mad at Tom Brady, 485 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 7: And I think John Elway if you put him in 486 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 7: the goat. 487 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 6: Now, just the ability hold that dog because you might 488 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:12,399 Speaker 6: be mad at Joe Montana today. 489 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:13,680 Speaker 4: Hold on Joe about to get this smoke. 490 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:16,440 Speaker 6: Because Joe Montana was on the Pat McAfee show Bruce 491 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 6: Arians feeling he's gonna have a regular spot apparently with them, 492 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 6: and here's the exchange they asked Joe Montana, Hey, Joe, 493 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:28,200 Speaker 6: if you're building a NFL franchise, got to pick your quarterback. 494 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 6: And you can't pick Brock Perdy because you know he's 495 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 6: a Niner through and through. So you win Brock Purty first. 496 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:35,879 Speaker 6: You got three quarterback choices. Give us your top three. 497 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 6: Here's the exchange. 498 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:41,200 Speaker 2: If you were a general manager head coach today, pick 499 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 2: the top three quarterbacks you want to start your franchise with. 500 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 4: And why like this and not Rock Perdy. You can't 501 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 4: take Brock Boom. Okay, Brock is your number one pick. 502 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:50,480 Speaker 9: We know that. 503 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 4: Yep. So you love Brock Perdy, you love Brock Perdy. 504 00:21:54,200 --> 00:22:00,680 Speaker 5: I'm taking I'm taking the guy in Buffalo, Okay, Josh Allen, Josh, 505 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 5: and the guy that surprised me that I thought would 506 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:10,960 Speaker 5: obviously Joe Burrows, another guy I like a lot, and and. 507 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 9: Believe it or not, I like the guy in with 508 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:18,800 Speaker 9: the Chargers just uh yeah. I think they just kind 509 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 9: of they've kind of kind of gone by the wayside there, 510 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:23,960 Speaker 9: but uh, you know, I just I just like the 511 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:25,480 Speaker 9: way they all those three guys are. 512 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 7: Uh you are right over there, could you no? 513 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:33,360 Speaker 1: No, you smoke it over there. And let me tell 514 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 1: you this. I think Joe Montana has to good. I've 515 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:40,440 Speaker 1: always said that, and I have mad respect for him. 516 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 1: And when he played and you know how the game was, 517 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:45,359 Speaker 1: how how many time you got beat up against the 518 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 1: Giants defense like it was a different game, and he 519 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:49,400 Speaker 1: was incredible. 520 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:50,239 Speaker 4: He really was. 521 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:52,760 Speaker 3: Eleven touchdowns, no picks. 522 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:54,400 Speaker 4: And four super bowls. He was a standard. 523 00:22:54,440 --> 00:23:00,240 Speaker 1: Okay, but this list and his list to me, once 524 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:03,199 Speaker 1: you put Justin Herbert on there, I can't listen to it. 525 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 1: I really got it. I got an issue, and I 526 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:08,639 Speaker 1: get it. He checks all the boxes. He's six foot 527 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:11,920 Speaker 1: three or four, he's got a buck right six five, 528 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:14,639 Speaker 1: got got a big arm all night, looks like a 529 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 1: quarterback his bill. 530 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:16,439 Speaker 3: I get all that. 531 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 1: He just hadn't done anything. I'm sorry to warrant being 532 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 1: on that list. I just cannot Lamar won a couple 533 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:25,960 Speaker 1: of MVPs. 534 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 3: Wow, shocking. 535 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 1: Okay, you want to say that from the traditional but 536 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 1: your issue, and I want you to go first. 537 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 4: You know my issue is I do know yo, nobody issue. 538 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 3: But you have an issue with cool Joe, don't you. 539 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:41,720 Speaker 7: I do have a cool super cool Joe. He cannot 540 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 7: be any cooler. And I've been around him, you know, 541 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 7: just covering super Bowls. Great dude, for sure, and arguably 542 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:48,720 Speaker 7: the go I'm not mad at that, absolutely not. 543 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:53,159 Speaker 4: However, this ain't the goat list. Go now. Rob g 544 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:56,120 Speaker 4: Is stopped short of saying a few things. 545 00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:58,640 Speaker 7: He went on to say they go who ho ho, 546 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 7: and somebody made talking about Patrick Mahons and he said, 547 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:05,240 Speaker 7: I think I would have had him if he was much, 548 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:07,639 Speaker 7: if he was younger, although they're not getting hit as 549 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 7: much today, so he probably played forever. So yeah, I 550 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:12,199 Speaker 7: guess maybe I should have had it patting there, But 551 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:15,200 Speaker 7: he was cushing in his age because he's Patrick Mahomes 552 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 7: and difference it will turn thirty this month, okay, but 553 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:21,200 Speaker 7: the difference in age is Rob G Right, Yeah, he's 554 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:24,160 Speaker 7: a years older than this Josh all year, not even 555 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:27,360 Speaker 7: a full year. Justin Herbert is twenty seven and Joe 556 00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:29,000 Speaker 7: Burrow will be twenty nine December. 557 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 4: So he's a year older. That's what I'm saying. 558 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 3: I'm not doune cooking Joe. 559 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 7: We got Joe on the plate, forgot Joe on the 560 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:39,880 Speaker 7: menu for They let me saw t Joe real quick. 561 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:44,480 Speaker 7: Now I got a list for you, my friend Rob Parker, 562 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 7: Rob G who I'm beef with right now. I'm trash 563 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:50,960 Speaker 7: talking Tuesday at the end of the show. You know 564 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 7: how many guys won super Bowls after age of thirty 565 00:24:55,600 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 7: clock this. Tom Brady won six Super Bowls after the 566 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 7: age of thirty six. Peyton Manny won one, Aaron Rodgers 567 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:12,840 Speaker 7: one one at thirty one, Russell Wilson was thirty, Joe 568 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 7: Montana won two after thirty Did he forget? John l 569 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 7: Way won two at thirty seven and thirty eight? I 570 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:26,480 Speaker 7: mean the list goes on Drew Brees thirty one. So 571 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:31,040 Speaker 7: my point is you absolutely and your favorite. Eli Manning 572 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 7: got won at thirty one. So what does he mean 573 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:37,119 Speaker 7: he's little ols? I ain't rolling with Patrick mahomes. The 574 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 7: other guys on the list haven't done anything. Josh Allen, 575 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:46,240 Speaker 7: who is immensely talented, but he hadn't done anything. 576 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 4: Justin Herbert, we don't get me started. 577 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 1: No, that that's the guy who has not really done anything. 578 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 1: I just can't get over. Like he makes everybody's. 579 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:59,560 Speaker 7: List, and then to leave Lamar off for Justin Herbert. 580 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:03,120 Speaker 7: I understand Joe Burrow and Justin Herbert kind of fit 581 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:05,639 Speaker 7: the traditional nineteen eighties quarterback that he's looking for that 582 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:08,240 Speaker 7: plays in a you know, straight out of Central casting. 583 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:10,200 Speaker 4: I'm putting the quarterback in the movie. 584 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:14,760 Speaker 7: You'd put Joe Burrow, or you would put Justin but Lamar. 585 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,359 Speaker 3: Patrick Mahon, he watched Lamar last year. 586 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:19,800 Speaker 4: It's insane. What Lamar has done for the last three 587 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:20,160 Speaker 4: four years. 588 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:23,920 Speaker 7: What do you have forty one touchdowns before me started? Man, Yes, Oh, 589 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:26,560 Speaker 7: absolutely ridiculous. Those two should have been on the list. 590 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 7: Now at last point, drop, I know there's kind of 591 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:32,240 Speaker 7: the four. The big four right is Joe Burrow, Lamar Jackson, 592 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 7: Patrick Mahomes, Josh Allen. So somebody was gonna get left 593 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:37,440 Speaker 7: off when you ask him three. But to me, leaving 594 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:41,399 Speaker 7: off Patrick and Lamar was crazy. Joe respectfully, Joe. 595 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 1: Now, Joe, I'm gonna agree with Joe on one thing. 596 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 1: I can see why he left off Patrick Mahomes, and 597 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:51,240 Speaker 1: it has nothing to do with age. If you just 598 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 1: want to be honest and where these quarterbacks are going. 599 00:26:56,640 --> 00:27:02,680 Speaker 1: The other guys are ascending and Patrick Homes is descending. 600 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 3: Okay, I'm gonna let you go. I'm just saying, be honest. 601 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:11,480 Speaker 1: With the stats and the numbers, it's not a it's 602 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:15,440 Speaker 1: not a career Lifetime Achievement award he's talking about right 603 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:18,640 Speaker 1: now if you're looking at it. And my argument all 604 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:24,199 Speaker 1: the time is that most people aren't honest enough to 605 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 1: tell you that Patrick Mahomes is not the same quarterback. 606 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:32,439 Speaker 1: The numbers beared out the idea last year that in 607 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:37,719 Speaker 1: games that he played last year, the Chiefs were fifteen 608 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,680 Speaker 1: and one, fifteen. 609 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 3: And one. 610 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:46,960 Speaker 1: In a quarterback league and a guy who people are 611 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:49,080 Speaker 1: always saying when they do the polls, he's the number 612 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:53,840 Speaker 1: one quarterback they and yet he didn't get one MVP 613 00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:59,119 Speaker 1: vote first place vote last year, not one that speaks 614 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 1: volumes of the quarterback league and against Patrick Mahomes. 615 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:05,800 Speaker 3: And if you look just an honest look, I'm not 616 00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 3: talking about his career. 617 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:09,399 Speaker 1: He's in the Hall of Famer already, so I'm not 618 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:11,199 Speaker 1: one of these guys I'm trying to poop poo it 619 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 1: and discount his start to his career. But the last 620 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:19,680 Speaker 1: two years, this is not the Patrick Mahomes that started 621 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:22,440 Speaker 1: the league. You know that when he started the league 622 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:25,159 Speaker 1: that electrified and people looked at it. This is a 623 00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:31,520 Speaker 1: dink dunk, non descript five yards of past, like it's 624 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:34,719 Speaker 1: somebody we don't even recognize. And yes, they keep winning 625 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:37,200 Speaker 1: and they've gotten the Super Bowls, and I get all that, 626 00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:41,480 Speaker 1: but it ain't on the backs of Patrick Mahomes as 627 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 1: it used to be. He was must see TV. That 628 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:46,800 Speaker 1: team was incredible. 629 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:48,960 Speaker 7: Here's what I don't agree with you at what I 630 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:51,280 Speaker 7: don't agree is it's the same thing. Why to me, 631 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:53,280 Speaker 7: when we talk a lot of times you're talking basketball. 632 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 7: One of the things I liked about, you know, like 633 00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,480 Speaker 7: Luca with the Mavericks for those you know, handful of years. 634 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:02,560 Speaker 7: What I like about Lebron I like guys that when 635 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 7: the team is great, cool, we got a great chance 636 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:06,560 Speaker 7: to do some great things. When the team ain't that great, 637 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:08,480 Speaker 7: we still got a chance to do some great things. 638 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:11,280 Speaker 7: And to me, that's what I like about Patrick Mahomes. 639 00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:13,680 Speaker 7: When the team is great, were putting up thirty forty 640 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 7: a game, great when the team was barely scoring you know, 641 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:19,479 Speaker 7: twenty dage we're gonna go fifteen to two and fifteen 642 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:21,480 Speaker 7: and one. It might've been sixteen and one if he 643 00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:25,520 Speaker 7: played that last game. How to me, I can't knock 644 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:27,520 Speaker 7: you for that. I give you more credit. When you 645 00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:29,200 Speaker 7: got guys coming in and out, you got a bunch 646 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:31,120 Speaker 7: of injuries. You know, you got a good defense, so 647 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:32,560 Speaker 7: you know how to lean on them. You're not force 648 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:35,360 Speaker 7: it up. To me, that's more of a compliment that 649 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:38,440 Speaker 7: I can play in multiple ways, because we've seen where 650 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:41,080 Speaker 7: guys can only play one way. And if you can 651 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 7: stop that one way, they're hurt, and to me, I 652 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:46,160 Speaker 7: like to see that. Patrick mahonmes guys in and out. 653 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:47,600 Speaker 7: I'm not gonna be able to make all the plays, 654 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 7: but dangn when I need to make a play, Rob 655 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:51,440 Speaker 7: g One of my favorite stats last year was what 656 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 7: it was third down conversion for first downs. You know 657 00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,800 Speaker 7: who was number one, Patrick Mahoons at fifty three percent. 658 00:29:57,880 --> 00:29:59,920 Speaker 1: Okay, but if you see that stat in people who 659 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,360 Speaker 1: vote for the halt for the MVP because he. 660 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:06,200 Speaker 7: Wasn't an MVP caliber player at all. Lamar Jackson should 661 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:08,280 Speaker 7: have been MVP. We both agreed, But I told you 662 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:10,360 Speaker 7: Josh Sallow was gonna win it because of fatigue. You 663 00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:13,360 Speaker 7: don't want to hear me. Josh Allen won because of fatigue. 664 00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:15,080 Speaker 4: Rob Parker, what else is it? 665 00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:18,040 Speaker 1: Because it's because they're friendly to get the players who 666 00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:20,200 Speaker 1: were friendly with Joe Burrow, Dan Orlowski? 667 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:20,800 Speaker 4: What like? 668 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 3: This was his mission? 669 00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:25,160 Speaker 1: I'm dead serious. It was about friendship and I'm being buddies. 670 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:27,400 Speaker 1: How did you change your vote? He should have been 671 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:28,280 Speaker 1: First Team All. 672 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:30,840 Speaker 7: Pro too, because people, well people are tired of them. 673 00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:31,520 Speaker 4: But doesn't matter. 674 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:34,000 Speaker 7: Those two had MVP and even Joe Burrow had an 675 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:36,760 Speaker 7: MVP candidate season. So my point is he doesn't have 676 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:39,400 Speaker 7: to be MVP to still be the best. Tom Brady 677 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:42,320 Speaker 7: has what two MVPs I believe in his career if 678 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:44,680 Speaker 7: I'm not or two off pros? I think it is 679 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:46,560 Speaker 7: or something like that, something where you would think he'd 680 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:49,560 Speaker 7: have more considering how great he is, but he doesn't. 681 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:52,200 Speaker 7: But yet he's still the goat. Joe Montana can argument 682 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:53,640 Speaker 7: say he's a god. I'm not mad at that at all. 683 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:56,320 Speaker 7: So Patrick Mahomes didn't have to be the MVP to 684 00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:57,360 Speaker 7: still be the best? 685 00:30:57,640 --> 00:30:57,960 Speaker 4: All right? 686 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,600 Speaker 7: Eight seven, seven ninety nine off farm make the need 687 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:03,520 Speaker 7: to make Joe Montana's list for sure? Come on, Joe. 688 00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:09,280 Speaker 3: Was Joe wrong in leaving Patrick Mahomes off his list? 689 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:09,560 Speaker 9: Yes? 690 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:11,200 Speaker 4: Or was he right? 691 00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:13,960 Speaker 1: And I say right, I would put Lamar should have 692 00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:16,520 Speaker 1: been on the list rather than Justin Herbert and not 693 00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:20,880 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes. He has had two back to back down 694 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:24,720 Speaker 1: years and I'm just trying to about those numbers, like, look 695 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:27,480 Speaker 1: at the numbers. I'm not hating on him or trying 696 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:31,400 Speaker 1: to discredit his career. Just be honest and fair and 697 00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:36,200 Speaker 1: look at the numbers. Was Joe Montana wrong leaving Patrick 698 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:37,840 Speaker 1: Mahomes off the list or was he right? 699 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 4: One game? 700 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:41,400 Speaker 7: To save your life, Ron, you're taking Josh Allen, Lamar 701 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:43,440 Speaker 7: Jacks or Joe Burrainy over him. 702 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:47,920 Speaker 4: That's not what his comments. Yes or no. I'm taking 703 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:48,640 Speaker 4: yes and no. 704 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:53,000 Speaker 3: Tak that's a black quarterback, Rober you heard what I said. 705 00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:54,880 Speaker 4: That's your one. Okay, that's your one.