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Speaker 2: Welcome to another episode of the Action Network Podcast. Sunday

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Speaker 2: Night in December. Week fifteen is in the books. It

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Speaker 2: was a weird one. I'm your host, Brandon Anderson here

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Speaker 2: with Raheem Palmer. We got a lot of weird games

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Speaker 2: this week, a lot of unders. Unders went seven and

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Speaker 2: four today and it felt like eleven and oh only

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Speaker 2: forty touchdowns all day on Sunday, though, of course we

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Speaker 2: the COVID protocols got rescheduled games that will get back

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Speaker 2: to And I think the big story coming out of

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Speaker 2: the day is the top of the NFC Packers survive

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Speaker 2: a two point conversion and get the win. Cardinals and

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Speaker 2: Bocks lose ugly. So Rahiem, does the road to the

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Speaker 2: Super Bowl go through Green Bay?

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Speaker 1: Now, I'm not sure I'm gonna be honest with you,

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Speaker 1: I didn't like what I saw from Green Bay today.

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Speaker 1: I think we can we can talk about that a

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Speaker 1: But I have my thoughts on each of these teams.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I'm with you on that. We all

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Speaker 2: come back, We're gonna look at each one of those

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Speaker 2: preview and a brief Week sixteen hot read and a

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Speaker 2: of Sunday Night. Record Odds Today from bet MGM, the

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Speaker 2: let's start with those three NFC results at the top.

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Speaker 2: Let's hit that Sunday Night stinker in Tampa nine Nothing

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Speaker 2: the Saints won nine nothing. Tom Brady gets shut out

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Speaker 2: absolutely no points, no offense, no anything. Here's some Tom

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Speaker 2: Brady nuggets for you. First, Tom Brady shout out in

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Speaker 2: two hundred and fifty five starts, second longest streak in history.

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Speaker 2: Last Tom Brady shot out two thousand and six. Tom

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Speaker 2: Brady was twenty nine. No defensive player currently in the

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Speaker 2: NFL was active, and Drew Brees was making his Saints'

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Speaker 2: we're away under this. This was barely even watchable. What

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Speaker 1: Brady just still has issues with this Saints team since

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Speaker 2: So I thought that Tom Brady and the Box are

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Speaker 2: Cliff Kingsbury. I did the deep dive today. Ready, it's gruesome. Okay,

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm a little less worried than you, but

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Speaker 2: One of our interesting finishes we actually got today. Packers

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Speaker 1: Look, not only did I have the Packers live in game,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not great to give up thirty points to

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Speaker 2: Turnover on downs you lost by a one. A field

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Speaker 1: Weren't down fourteen at the point, they were down eleven,

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Speaker 2: He's at minus one twenty at BETMGM, Aaron Rodgers is

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Speaker 2: now if I will be hedging. We all know I've

433
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Speaker 2: got a big Brady position on MVP and Rogers. If

434
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Speaker 2: you're giving me a two and a half odds and

435
00:21:57,520 --> 00:21:59,640
Speaker 2: a chance to hedge at that give me really hard

436
00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:02,520
Speaker 2: for me to on it, because Rogers been better. He

437
00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:04,800
Speaker 2: just has been better. Like the only reason he's not

438
00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:07,399
Speaker 2: the MVP a favorite right now is because of all

439
00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:09,919
Speaker 2: the media mess and the backs and all that. And

440
00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:12,800
Speaker 2: I don't know how much does he have to be

441
00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:15,719
Speaker 2: ahead by to overcome that. We don't know that yet,

442
00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:18,359
Speaker 2: but I am worried. I'm worried.

443
00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:21,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, but I mean obviously, and then the

444
00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:23,320
Speaker 1: Buccaneers they got two games against the Panthers. The Pants

445
00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:26,040
Speaker 1: offense really isn't playing well, but this is a solid

446
00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:28,399
Speaker 1: Panthers defense, So I mean, obviously he's going to rack

447
00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:31,560
Speaker 1: up his numbers against the Jets. This is this is

448
00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:33,320
Speaker 1: neck and neck. So I think if you have some

449
00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:35,920
Speaker 1: Tom Brady MVP features, maybe want to hedge a little

450
00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:39,040
Speaker 1: bit with Aaron Rodgers. Do you think Patrick Mahomes is

451
00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:41,879
Speaker 1: out of it yet though, because obviously he he came

452
00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:45,560
Speaker 1: back huge and there was a match up against the Chargers,

453
00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:48,199
Speaker 1: So I'm interested to see what your thoughts is on that.

454
00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:50,320
Speaker 1: I think he's plus eight hundred at this point.

455
00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:53,240
Speaker 2: Still, it's plus sixty and at bet MGM right now,

456
00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:55,160
Speaker 2: so you can really get a long shot on him

457
00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:58,000
Speaker 2: or in Jonathan Taylor if you believe in a non quarterback.

458
00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:00,560
Speaker 2: I think it's Brady or Rogers. I thought it was.

459
00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:02,680
Speaker 2: I thought for a few weeks now it's going to

460
00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:06,280
Speaker 2: be Brady Rodgers or Tyler whoever won the NFC. Tyler,

461
00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:08,399
Speaker 2: I think is kind of between the missing the games

462
00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:11,120
Speaker 2: and now the Cardinals slight tail spin. I'm not sure

463
00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:13,840
Speaker 2: that that's really a spot anymore. It's hard for me

464
00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:16,040
Speaker 2: to see what has to happen at this point, especially

465
00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:19,360
Speaker 2: Packers and Bucks schedule is so soft, one or both

466
00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:22,120
Speaker 2: of those teams are going to be thirteen fourteen win teams.

467
00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:26,320
Speaker 2: Best rugger in the whole NFL with Rogers or Brady

468
00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:28,679
Speaker 2: as the lead. I just don't know how that's not

469
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Speaker 2: the MVP, Like Mahomes has just not been that good

470
00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:34,879
Speaker 2: this season, even as in this win streak, it's still

471
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Speaker 2: not a Mahomes thing. It's the defense and the rest

472
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Speaker 2: of the team. So I don't think it's crazy, but

473
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Speaker 2: I think that you really need Brady or Rogers both

474
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Speaker 2: to really fall off to open the door for someone else.

475
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Speaker 1: So it's just interesting. I mean, this team's won seven

476
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Speaker 1: in a row. Mahomes is six at EPA per play

477
00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:57,000
Speaker 1: plus completion over expectation composite and if he closes out

478
00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:59,600
Speaker 1: this year strong, I don't know. I know some guys

479
00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:03,320
Speaker 1: who in some futures all Mahomes. He's a match up

480
00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:05,400
Speaker 1: against the Steelers, the Bengals, and the Broncos.

481
00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:07,680
Speaker 2: You know, those are all three possible playoff teams. So

482
00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:10,080
Speaker 2: if he closes all well, he's gonna have his chances.

483
00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:12,440
Speaker 2: And it's Pat Mahomes, so you can never say never

484
00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:15,280
Speaker 2: by I'll be interesting to watch. I'm sure we'll keep

485
00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:18,679
Speaker 2: keep circling back to that one. Ravens have now lost

486
00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:22,040
Speaker 2: by one, two and one the last three weeks. Does

487
00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:25,280
Speaker 2: brutal stretch right now if the playoffs started right now,

488
00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:27,280
Speaker 2: the Ravens are out. They're out of the playoffs. They

489
00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:30,399
Speaker 2: were the division leader today, they were the one seed

490
00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:32,760
Speaker 2: I think a couple of weeks ago. They're out right now,

491
00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:35,120
Speaker 2: they're at eight and six. The Bengals are leading the division.

492
00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:38,399
Speaker 2: So it's gonna be very interesting. The AFC is really tight.

493
00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:40,920
Speaker 2: Let's hit a couple of those big AFC games quickly

494
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Speaker 2: before we wrap up here this section Titans at the Steelers.

495
00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:47,840
Speaker 2: I love the Steelers in the underdog spot all week,

496
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:50,440
Speaker 2: ended up not even being an underdog. They closed as

497
00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:54,160
Speaker 2: favorites or pick them, depending on your book. Pittsburgh nineteen

498
00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:57,920
Speaker 2: to thirteen. The Steelers get the win. I gotta tell you,

499
00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:01,080
Speaker 2: Steelers were my top bat the week, and about an

500
00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:03,560
Speaker 2: hour in I just had already cut my losses, Like

501
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:07,400
Speaker 2: the Titans were running through the Steelers every like ten

502
00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:10,840
Speaker 2: yards a rush, just gashing them. Steelers defense couldn't get

503
00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:12,880
Speaker 2: off the field, and I was like, man, I got

504
00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:16,280
Speaker 2: to get past the laundry and just remember that the

505
00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:19,840
Speaker 2: Steelers are not defensive right now. This can't stop anybody.

506
00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:22,879
Speaker 2: And I'm like, is there any hope here? Is anything

507
00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:26,360
Speaker 2: going to happen. It's it's that Steelers home field, Tomlin,

508
00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:29,920
Speaker 2: Big Ben, voodoo magic. And then that's what happened. Four

509
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:34,000
Speaker 2: turnovers the Titans had, including three and ten snaps, and

510
00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:35,760
Speaker 2: they just totally gave the game away.

511
00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:39,879
Speaker 1: Even though the Titans they pretty much dominated in every

512
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Speaker 1: area they want. The yards three hundred and eighteen to

513
00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:44,560
Speaker 1: one hundred and sixty sixty eight yards, puld play four

514
00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:47,760
Speaker 1: point one to three point seven third downs forty four

515
00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:51,520
Speaker 1: percent to eighteen percent. Rushing yards went two hundred and

516
00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:55,199
Speaker 1: one to thirty five. But the turnovers killed them. And

517
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:57,840
Speaker 1: even at the end, the Titans are driving with a

518
00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:00,960
Speaker 1: chance to take the league. Those were fortunate to be

519
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:01,560
Speaker 1: pulled that game.

520
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:04,440
Speaker 2: They're very, very fortunate because the thing you didn't mention

521
00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:07,080
Speaker 2: is that before that Steelers missed field goal to end

522
00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:09,840
Speaker 2: the half. It should have been over already. The Titans

523
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:14,760
Speaker 2: had a nineteen play, nineteen plays, sixty four yard ten

524
00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:19,159
Speaker 2: minute drive and settled for three. Like you're gashing the Steelers,

525
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:22,720
Speaker 2: you're running through them. You gotta you're the Titans. You're

526
00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:26,120
Speaker 2: about just physical, you know, be a man, go win

527
00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:29,680
Speaker 2: football games. You gotta get the knockout punch in there.

528
00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:32,359
Speaker 2: So it goes to thirteen to three at the half,

529
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Speaker 2: even with that miss Steelers field goal. But they're really

530
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Speaker 2: like that. The field goal Pittsburgh had is only because

531
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Speaker 2: Tennessee fumbled in their own territory, so that gave Pittsburgh

532
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Speaker 2: their points. It really should have been like seventeen nothing

533
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:45,240
Speaker 2: of the half, twenty one nothing of the half. It

534
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:48,000
Speaker 2: should have just been over. Pittsburgh's not coming back. Well,

535
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:50,920
Speaker 2: my vikings would beg to differ on Pittsburgh not coming

536
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:54,399
Speaker 2: back from a huge deficit, I guess, but seventeen nothing,

537
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,240
Speaker 2: twenty nothing at the half, it's over Pittsburgh. Yeah, one

538
00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:59,840
Speaker 2: hundred and sixty eight yards of offense. The Titans just

539
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:03,679
Speaker 2: totally gave this game away. Ryan Tannehill was awful, awful

540
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,760
Speaker 2: all game. He fumbled a snap, he sacked four times

541
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 2: he had interception. The Titans had three first downs that

542
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:13,840
Speaker 2: they gave up on penalties. They had one for four

543
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:18,480
Speaker 2: in the red zone. They outran plays seventy eight plays

544
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 2: to forty five, did the ball basically twice as much

545
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:24,760
Speaker 2: as the Steelers, and the defense did his job. Pannehill

546
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:28,200
Speaker 2: and the offense just completely gave this one away. And

547
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:31,120
Speaker 2: like all year we talked about both of us, we've

548
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:33,520
Speaker 2: been looking to fade the Titans, waiting for the regression

549
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:37,120
Speaker 2: and it's like in just a ninety minute months soon

550
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:42,040
Speaker 2: it all came for Tennessee, every regression monster just like yeah,

551
00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:44,320
Speaker 2: and he gave it all back to Pittsburgh and we

552
00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:44,760
Speaker 2: got it.

553
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean it's rough. I'm gonna be honest with you.

554
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:50,600
Speaker 1: I don't like him. Next week against San Francisco as well,

555
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:53,160
Speaker 1: I don't know. So that's that's like an early hot

556
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:54,880
Speaker 1: read before we get into the hot read.

557
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:58,560
Speaker 2: So yeah, that's a Thursday, Thursday night game, and I agree,

558
00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:01,720
Speaker 2: it's it's a rough spot. Some of these teams at Tennessee's,

559
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 2: the Baltimore's of the world that were like came into

560
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:07,239
Speaker 2: to today fighting for the one seed that like by

561
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:10,280
Speaker 2: the end of next Sunday might be just barely even

562
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:13,520
Speaker 2: in the playoff picture. So let's talk about one more

563
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:16,359
Speaker 2: Saturday night. The game we were all excited for that

564
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:18,280
Speaker 2: really did not live up to the hype. It was

565
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:22,600
Speaker 2: a snoozer Patriots Colts Colts twenty seven to seventeen. But

566
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:24,919
Speaker 2: if you didn't watch, that is not indicative of what

567
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:27,800
Speaker 2: this game felt like. This game was Colts got the

568
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:30,680
Speaker 2: quick early fourteen to nothing lead and then just shut

569
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:37,080
Speaker 2: it down. I felt like Indianapolis Belichick, Bill Belichick. They

570
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:40,560
Speaker 2: ran the ball, they played defense, and they said we're

571
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:43,440
Speaker 2: ahead by fourteen, you're not gonna beat us. We're just

572
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:46,600
Speaker 2: gonna not make mistakes. Tell Carson got his one batter

573
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 2: interception in there, and you're not going to catch up.

574
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 2: And they almost caught up the gall within three. Jonathan

575
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:55,120
Speaker 2: Taylor got his big late touchdown to break away. Kind

576
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:57,600
Speaker 2: of a snoozer game, but it felt like the Colts

577
00:28:57,640 --> 00:28:59,040
Speaker 2: turned the table on Belichick here.

578
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, without a doubt. It just it was very frustrating,

579
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 1: and I think some of that had to deal with

580
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 1: the fact that Carson Wentz didn't play well. Look he's

581
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 1: five of twelve for fifty seven yards. One touchdown and

582
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:15,200
Speaker 1: one interception. It's just like and the interception was just

583
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 1: so agregious. I thought bad Carson was done and it's

584
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 1: clear that it's not so this team, I mean, they

585
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:24,960
Speaker 1: have a real shot because I think they have an

586
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 1: advantage with Jonathan Taylor. It's not too many teams in

587
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:30,320
Speaker 1: the league who can truly run the ball in the

588
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:33,719
Speaker 1: ways that the coach can, other than the Titans with

589
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:37,000
Speaker 1: Dereck Henry. Matt Jones didn't play well in the first half.

590
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 1: I kind of expected that. I expected a better performance

591
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 1: from the Coast defense because they've been struggling recently. But

592
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:46,840
Speaker 1: Matt Jones he turned it on the second half, and

593
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:50,000
Speaker 1: I'm interested to see what he can do going forward

594
00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:52,920
Speaker 1: because obviously the Patriots aren't going to be able to

595
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 1: win with him just handing the ball off every time.

596
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 2: So this is a.

597
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:59,000
Speaker 1: Passing league and it's going to be interesting to see

598
00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 1: what happens with this team.

599
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:03,480
Speaker 2: For sure. Two other things from this game that I noticed.

600
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 2: First of all, get all the way out of here

601
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 2: with Jonathan Taylor MVP talk. No, it's not happening. It's

602
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 2: gonna be one of the quarterbacks. It's twenty twenty one

603
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:13,560
Speaker 2: it's a quarterbacks the league. It's not gonna be Jonathan Taylor.

604
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 2: The MVP of the Colts is not Jonathan Taylor. It's

605
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:20,600
Speaker 2: the offensive line. That huge MVP touchdown run. Nobody barely

606
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:23,480
Speaker 2: touched him. He went through a gaping hole, made one

607
00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 2: cut and one guy you had a hand on him

608
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 2: as he was waved by off to just no man's

609
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 2: lane running for a touchdown. A lot of running basketboad

610
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:33,880
Speaker 2: that touchdown. The offensive line converted three for three on

611
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:36,360
Speaker 2: fourth downs where Carson Wentz got the sneak because the

612
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:39,800
Speaker 2: line got the push and kept the chains moving this game.

613
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:43,640
Speaker 2: You know, Quenton Nelson and the guys up front, they're

614
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 2: the MVP of the tier. They're the ones dominating. Jonathan

615
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:48,960
Speaker 2: Taylor's good, but he's not the MVP. Come on the

616
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,719
Speaker 2: other thing too, We criticized coaches all the time when

617
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:55,680
Speaker 2: they're not aggressive. The Patriots are down twenty to seven,

618
00:30:56,200 --> 00:31:00,440
Speaker 2: fourth and goal inside the ten nine minutes left. Bill

619
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 2: Belichick kicks the field goal. I thought that was insane.

620
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 2: Belichick is down two scores with nine minutes left and

621
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:11,720
Speaker 2: kicks the field goal to stay down two scores. It's

622
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 2: like that feels like the white flag moment, and Belchick

623
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:18,720
Speaker 2: has really been not aggressive all season. I guess he's

624
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:22,200
Speaker 2: protecting the rookie quarterback. But nine minutes left, the one

625
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:24,280
Speaker 2: seed is maybe on the line. The division is on

626
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 2: the line. You know, if the Patriots lose the Bills

627
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 2: next week, they're not only not the one seed, they're

628
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 2: not even in the division anymore. I can't let you

629
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 2: kick a field goal down thirteen with nine minutes left.

630
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:37,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't understand it at all. And I mean, look,

631
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,120
Speaker 1: I just feel like the conservative nature of some of

632
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 1: these coaches right now is just it's very frustrating.

633
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:45,960
Speaker 2: All right, let's hit the rest of Sunday's action and

634
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:49,680
Speaker 2: a wrap up. Week fifteen, the Texans completed the season

635
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 2: sweep of the Jaguars with apparently what counts as an

636
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 2: upset on Darryl Bebble's first drive in charge. After Urban

637
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 2: Meyer's firing. Jaguars had a third and ten inside the eleven.

638
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 2: They run the ball, waste a time out, kick a

639
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 2: field goal from the four as a two and eleven team,

640
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 2: and immediately give up a kickoff touchdown return to go

641
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:11,480
Speaker 2: down fourteen to three. So it's a good summary of

642
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:14,880
Speaker 2: the Jaguars season. Right now, Houston wins thirty to sixteen

643
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 2: plus two hundred on the money line. I've given out

644
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 2: on our Friday Pod three times this season to bet

645
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 2: the Houston money line. They're only three wins. I'm taking

646
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:26,479
Speaker 2: that one. Jacksonville's loss puts them into the number one

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Speaker 2: draft slot right now, so maybe it does a win

648
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Speaker 2: for the Jaguars after all. Niners up into the Falcons

649
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 2: thirty one to thirteen, closer than the final score looked.

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Speaker 2: In rough one, if you got the over, Atlanta was

651
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 2: zero for three on third down all in the red zone.

652
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 2: The Falcons ran twenty red zone plays on five drives

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Speaker 2: and scored three points, and the games stayed under by

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Speaker 2: a field goal, So that was a rough one if

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Speaker 2: you had the over. Bengals Broncos in a day of

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Speaker 2: boring football and no close games, Bengals Broncos literally stayed

657
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Speaker 2: with than one score the entire sixty minutes without ever

658
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Speaker 2: being interesting in any way. Really, neither team at three

659
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Speaker 2: hundred yards we almost made a halftime with more punts

660
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Speaker 2: than first downs. Bengals win fifteen ten, Denver unders eleven

661
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:19,120
Speaker 2: and three on the season. Giants rewarded their fans for

662
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Speaker 2: another season of mediocrity and irrelevance by giving out free soda,

663
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Speaker 2: but it was only a medium and only one not

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Speaker 2: per ticket, but if your name was on the account.

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Speaker 2: New York lost also twenty one to six to the Cowboys,

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Speaker 2: and it wasn't not close. The Jets took a seventeen

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Speaker 2: to seven lead over the Dolphins, but failed to score

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Speaker 2: again on offense. Miami came back to win thirty one

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Speaker 2: twenty four six wins in a row for the Dolphins

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Speaker 2: seven and seven. Now, the Jets did get the cover though,

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Speaker 2: and in the Christmas spirit for Batters, the Angel Gabriel

672
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Speaker 2: Davis brought the Bills Batters good tidings of great joy

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Speaker 2: with a late touchdown to hit the cover and the over.

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Speaker 2: Buffalo beats Carolina thirty one to fourteen, and all eight

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Speaker 2: Bill's wins this season have come by fifteen or more points.

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Speaker 2: By the way, Panthers have last twelve straight Cam Newton starts.

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Speaker 2: They are one and eleven against the spread in those

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Speaker 2: Monday night, my Minnesota Vikings come to my Chicago to

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Speaker 2: take on the Bears. The Vikings are nearly a touchdown favorite,

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Speaker 2: six and a half point favorites on the road. Total

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Speaker 2: is out forty four and a half. Chicago has not

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Speaker 2: been a friendly confine to the Minnesota Vikings. But Chicago

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Speaker 2: is struggling with some COVID issues and you know football,

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Speaker 2: They're struggling with football. So what do you think Vikings

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Speaker 2: are Bears? I don't think you take the Vikings at

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Speaker 2: this current number.

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Speaker 1: Obviously it's opened up at three and a half, it's

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Speaker 1: pushed up all the way up to six and a

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Speaker 1: half right now. So this is for me, it's tough

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Speaker 1: to be able to back. I think at this point

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Speaker 1: it's either Bears or passed. But I think this is

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Speaker 1: a game that possibly can go over. Like when you

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Speaker 1: look at these defenses, who do you really trust to

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Speaker 1: like truly get a stop. If you look at the Vikings,

729
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:51,400
Speaker 1: obviously they're just seventeep in EPA for play, the Bears

730
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Speaker 1: are twenty seventh, and when you look at to drop

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Speaker 1: that EPA for play, Bears are just twenty six. Vikings

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Speaker 1: are eleven. But I don't really trust them to go

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Speaker 1: out there and consistently stop any team. So I think

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Speaker 1: if I had to play anything, i played over. But

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Speaker 1: I'm not really high on anything at this point.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this for me as a Vikings fan, this is

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Speaker 2: going to be a game that I am not touching,

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Speaker 2: just because I've lived in the Chicago area for two

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Speaker 2: decades now and since I moved here Minnesota, coming to

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Speaker 2: Chicago has not gone well for me. That day of

741
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 2: the game, not well. That day after the game usually

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Speaker 2: not a great one for me. Either as a Vikings fan,

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Speaker 2: because this century in Chicago, Minnesota has won four out

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00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:37,600
Speaker 2: of twenty times visiting the Bears in Chicago this century,

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00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 2: Twelve of those twenty games have been one score games.

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Speaker 2: And by the way, twelve of thirteen Minnesota games have

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00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 2: been one score games this season. So at six and

748
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:50,279
Speaker 2: a half, I feel pretty good about the Bears here.

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Speaker 2: Minnesota this entire century has won in Chicago by more

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Speaker 2: than a field goal one time, those last year against

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Speaker 2: Nick Fole, and the Vikings still need a touchdown with

752
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 2: five minutes left just to just to get over there.

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Speaker 2: So the history here screams Chicago plus six and a

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00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 2: half plus two forty on the money line. If you're

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Speaker 2: not willing to bet it, maybe you wait and live

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00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 2: about it. Rahim you've given the stat over and over again,

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00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 2: what's Minnesota do that take the lead? Minnesota's led by

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00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:24,880
Speaker 2: six or more in every single game of this season.

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Speaker 2: So if the Vikings are already six and a half

760
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Speaker 2: point favorites and take the early lead like they always do,

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Speaker 2: now you probably can get the Bears at more than

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Speaker 2: a touchdown underdog and just for the cover.

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Speaker 4: How do you feel about that one? Maybe going for

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Speaker 4: the live. Approaching that from a love angle. I mean,

765
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:44,399
Speaker 4: we've just seen Tim and Tom again. This Vikings team,

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00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:47,920
Speaker 4: they can't consistently get stops, and we all know Kirk

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Speaker 4: Cousins in prime time. You never want to back her

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Speaker 4: Cousins in from time. Look, I mean, I don't know

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Speaker 4: why he struggles in prime time so much, but for

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Speaker 4: whatever reason, he's just eight in seventeen straight up in

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Speaker 4: from time. Look, there's been sixty two quarterbacks for more

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Speaker 4: than five hundred pass attempts in from time.

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Speaker 1: Among them, Kirk cousins thirty two win percentage is fourth

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Speaker 1: worse among all quarterbacks. Only quarterbacks were worse of Jeff

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Speaker 1: George two and seventeen, Andy Dalton six and eighteen, and

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Speaker 1: Jim Everett, I mean Chris Everett, to quote the great

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00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 1: Jim Rome is eight and eighteen. So maybe you do

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Speaker 1: want to wait for this to get seven and or

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Speaker 1: take a cheap bout of seven and put a little

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Speaker 1: something on the Bears.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Look, if you're playing this game on paper, the

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Speaker 2: Vikings win, because the Vikings the last six weeks Number

783
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 2: two and EPA offensively felt very good. Kirk Cousins on

784
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 2: the season EPA plus completion over expectation. That has been

785
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Speaker 2: top five the last four weeks. First quarter he's number

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Speaker 2: one among all quarterbacks and that staff for this season,

787
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:03,719
Speaker 2: and before you point out, fourth quarter is still top ten.

788
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 2: He's still hanging around. Kirk has been good. The Vikings

789
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Speaker 2: offense has been good. The Vikings should dominate both sides

790
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Speaker 2: of the passing game here. Passing defense should be able

791
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:16,400
Speaker 2: to shut down whatever is left of the Bears passing attack.

792
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 2: Passing offense should be able to attack a very beatable

793
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Speaker 2: Bears secondary. On a paper, Minnesota should be favored by

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Speaker 2: six and a half and get this win. But Minnesota

795
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:29,239
Speaker 2: has not played any games on paper this season. They

796
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Speaker 2: always find a way to get the lead and give

797
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Speaker 2: it back, and in Chicago they always find a way

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Speaker 2: to let things stay close. So I actually I will

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Speaker 2: play this one. I was teasing earlier. I'm a Vikings fan,

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Speaker 2: but I have to take the Bears here. The history

801
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 2: screams out Chicago here. So I'm just debating on whether

802
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 2: I will play it now or wait for that lead

803
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Speaker 2: and hope that I get a little bit better line.

804
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Speaker 2: I think either one is to get to play. But

805
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Speaker 2: I agree there's no way I'm putting my money on

806
00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:01,319
Speaker 2: Minnesota here, but I think it's Chicago or Pass But

807
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 2: I think Chicago is a pretty good angle here at home.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Like, as we talk through this game, I'm I'm

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Speaker 1: kind of with you, and I think you can get

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Speaker 1: a cheap about a seven. I think that has a

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Speaker 1: positive expectation long term.

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Speaker 2: All right, so think about playing the Bears. And of course,

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Speaker 2: as you know, we got some bonus Monday and Tuesday

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Speaker 2: up for those games. No, let's be fair, we postponed

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Speaker 2: these games to find out more info and s he

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Speaker 2: was gonna start, We haven't learned a whole lot yet.

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Speaker 2: So first game Monday and Monday afternoon before the Monday

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Speaker 2: night football game, Raiders at Browns. The Browns are right

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Speaker 2: now are minus three. That line surely can move around

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Speaker 2: a little bit. I assume Monday morning, after you listen

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Speaker 2: to this, we're gonna get some information. We don't know

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Speaker 2: who's playing quarterback for the Browns yet. We don't just

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Speaker 2: playing anything for the Browns. They're like there, we're still

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Speaker 2: missing like eleven of the twenty two starters. So do

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Speaker 2: you have any insights on this game? Is there an

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Speaker 2: angle that you have based on what we do know

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Speaker 2: right now?

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Speaker 1: Darren Wiler's out and that's big for the Raiders, But

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Speaker 1: when you look at the other side of the field, like, look,

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Speaker 1: the Browns could be potentially missing everybody, Like we don't

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Speaker 1: know if Baker Mayfield's playing. Last week, the Browns had

834
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Speaker 1: eighteen total players on the COVID. They had the left tackle,

835
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Speaker 1: right tackle, tight end, you got wide receivers. You have

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Speaker 1: so many guys missing for the Browns that that's why

837
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Speaker 1: this line actually shot up. The Browns actually opened up

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Speaker 1: as six and a half point favorites and now they're

839
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Speaker 1: underdogs at this point. So actually know the line flipped back.

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Speaker 1: They're actually three point favorites at this point, but at

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Speaker 1: one point they were three and a half point underdogs.

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Speaker 1: But I mean, I think that line implies that we're

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Speaker 1: going to see some of these guys come back, but

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Speaker 1: we're not quite sure who's going to be coming back,

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Speaker 1: who's gonna be in a lot of who's not. But

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Speaker 1: I think if you can get Jedrick Willis come back,

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Speaker 1: you can get Wyatt Teller coming back, you get those

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Speaker 1: guys coming back. I think you're in a good place

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Speaker 1: to probably late points with the Browns, especially if you

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Speaker 1: were one of the lucky ones who actually took points

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Speaker 1: with the Raiders. I actually took some points with the Raiders,

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Speaker 1: so you had got setting up a middle earlier. But

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Speaker 1: I think three is probably the number where you want

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Speaker 1: to start looking towards the Browns, especially with the way

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Speaker 1: this Raiders' offense has been playing. Outside of the game

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Speaker 1: against the Cobboys, they really have struggled to score and

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Speaker 1: John Gouden was their offensive guru as far as calling plays,

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Speaker 1: so this team hasn't really been the same since then.

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Speaker 1: Having no Wilder in the lineup is tough. So I

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Speaker 1: think you got to be looking Browns here.

861
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:37,400
Speaker 2: So I wrote the preview for this one. You and

862
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 2: I had We had to flip coin to see he

863
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:40,640
Speaker 2: was going to get the previews, and I lucked into

864
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:43,480
Speaker 2: the Browns Raiders bouncing all over the place all week.

865
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:45,960
Speaker 2: So if you check when you listen to this Monday

866
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:48,759
Speaker 2: morning you check on the Actionnetwork dot com, I'll have

867
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:51,360
Speaker 2: a brief update for you there. Here's the angle that

868
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:54,560
Speaker 2: I like in this game. The Browns all season have

869
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:58,239
Speaker 2: been fantastic in the first quarter. Baker Mayfield has been

870
00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:01,759
Speaker 2: a top three EPA quarterback for quarter. The offense has

871
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:05,400
Speaker 2: been very good early downs and early quarter. The Raiders

872
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:09,120
Speaker 2: have been a terrible early team. Derek Carr only ahead

873
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:12,920
Speaker 2: of Zach Wilson EPA in the first quarter. So flip

874
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:15,480
Speaker 2: the game, now go to the fourth quarter if it's Baker.

875
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 2: Baker is thirtieth out of thirty quarterbacks in EPA in

876
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:22,920
Speaker 2: the fourth quarter. The Raiders are top five EPA offense

877
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:25,879
Speaker 2: in the fourth quarter, So the Browns are favored now,

878
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:28,799
Speaker 2: They're probably be favored when it starts. I'm gonna wait

879
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:31,359
Speaker 2: and I'm gonna live bet if I actually feel like

880
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 2: I have a feel for who's playing, because now we'll

881
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 2: see who's actually on the field. I'm gonna do treat

882
00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:37,879
Speaker 2: this I could do with the Vikings and Bears. I'm

883
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:41,319
Speaker 2: gonna assume we get maybe a Browns lead, and like

884
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 2: you've talked about, when the team is favored, they don't

885
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:47,280
Speaker 2: quite adjust the live action often enough. If the underdog

886
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 2: has a chance, I'm gonna look to live bet the

887
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:52,799
Speaker 2: Raiders past the three, maybe get me back toward that

888
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 2: touchdown you and I talked last week we thought about

889
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 2: taking the Raiders before all this mess at six and

890
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 2: a half underdog, and we were hoping they might get

891
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:03,400
Speaker 2: to seven. So if I can get something close to

892
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:07,239
Speaker 2: that range again, even with the Browns missing some other

893
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:09,320
Speaker 2: guys that I think I'm going to look for that

894
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 2: live action and play the Raiders to cover, maybe even

895
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:16,040
Speaker 2: take a Raiders' money line, just because they've been so

896
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 2: much better late in games. If it's close.

897
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:20,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not mad at that at all. I mean, obviously,

898
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:23,360
Speaker 1: I do think the number kind of lends itself to

899
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 1: towards saying that a lot of these guys from Browns

900
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 1: are going to come back. So obviously you got to

901
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 1: wait on that. But we were looking at the Raiders

902
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:33,520
Speaker 1: last week. If you can get them at that original numbers,

903
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 1: probably not a bad player at all.

904
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 2: All Right, Tuesday, we've got the Washington football team heading

905
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 2: the Philadelphia to face the Eagles. We have no idea

906
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:44,320
Speaker 2: who's playing quarterback for either team in this game. Jalen

907
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:47,239
Speaker 2: Hurts is injured. The Eagles are off the bye week,

908
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:49,280
Speaker 2: but we don't know for sure if he'll play, especially

909
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 2: with the condensed schedule coming up now, we don't know

910
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:55,200
Speaker 2: if Taylor Heineke will play, or Kyle Allen or one

911
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:57,680
Speaker 2: of the names they literally signed off the street play.

912
00:45:57,760 --> 00:46:01,560
Speaker 2: Quarterback Terry McLaurin is a question mark. There's a lot

913
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:04,400
Speaker 2: of question marks here. The winner of this game fills

914
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:06,600
Speaker 2: to seven and seven and ties for the seven seeds.

915
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:10,000
Speaker 2: So this game doesn't matter. But I don't have any

916
00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:12,840
Speaker 2: idea where to start here without knowing who's coming or

917
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 2: who's going. Do you have any angle on this on.

918
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:19,319
Speaker 1: I actually took the Eagles earlier on laying the six

919
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:22,879
Speaker 1: and a half knowing where the number was gonna go. Look,

920
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:25,960
Speaker 1: sometimes you do everything right in this business and it,

921
00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:29,040
Speaker 1: for whatever reason, it just flips on a hit on

922
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:30,640
Speaker 1: its head and it just doesn't work out. With the

923
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:33,960
Speaker 1: NFL postpone. In this game, we were at a place

924
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:37,399
Speaker 1: to where you look at this Washington football team. They

925
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:42,680
Speaker 1: were missing four, five or six linemen on the defense.

926
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 1: Like the only tackle that they had was dron Pai.

927
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:50,360
Speaker 1: Like literally everybody on the defensive line was out. Matt ianiis.

928
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:53,240
Speaker 1: It's like the Eagles were gonna run through this defense

929
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:56,880
Speaker 1: like a hot knife through butter, and the whole handicap

930
00:46:57,040 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 1: is going now so.

931
00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 2: And by the way, by the way washing Rington was

932
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:02,839
Speaker 2: playing a quarterback that was on the roster of the day,

933
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:05,400
Speaker 2: like twenty four hours before the game, like this, this

934
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:08,200
Speaker 2: was gonna be what was it Kendall Hilton? Was that

935
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:11,320
Speaker 2: the Broncos guy last year? This one of those games

936
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:14,240
Speaker 2: again where it's just like, all right, this is not football?

937
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 2: What are we doing here? And yeah, you're upset. You

938
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:19,080
Speaker 2: had the Eagles six and a half. I had Eagles

939
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 2: two and a half. I had that on the look

940
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:22,600
Speaker 2: a half last week. So I got that ticke edt.

941
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:25,239
Speaker 2: I'm feeling real good about it. And now who knows

942
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:27,360
Speaker 2: what's gonna happen with us on When.

943
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:29,120
Speaker 1: You look at the Eagles quarterback situation, I don't think

944
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:30,919
Speaker 1: that's a big deal when you look at the Eagles

945
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:34,600
Speaker 1: backup quarterback situation. Obviously, Gardner Minshew has experienced he's coming

946
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:37,320
Speaker 1: earlier this year and he carved up the Jets. Obviously

947
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 1: the Jets defense, but this Washington football team defense hasn't

948
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:43,920
Speaker 1: proven and they truly can stop anybody. I know they've

949
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:47,000
Speaker 1: had some regression in recent weeks, but Gardner Mitschew was

950
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 1: capable of carving up this Washington football team defense, and

951
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:54,239
Speaker 1: in some ways he has skill sets that Jalen Hurst

952
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:56,839
Speaker 1: doesn't have. He's able to throw the ball over around

953
00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:59,719
Speaker 1: the field, So I'm not looking at that as a

954
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:02,680
Speaker 1: damn great at all. So, I mean, I think when

955
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:04,160
Speaker 1: this matchup, you kind of gotta be looking at the

956
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:07,560
Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles minus six and a half. Washington's not gonna

957
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:10,239
Speaker 1: get everybody back. The Eagles know they need to win

958
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:13,400
Speaker 1: this because they're in an unfortunate position of having to

959
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 1: play three games in thirteen gays. Obviously, we saw the

960
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:20,319
Speaker 1: Titans were successful in this last year, but with the

961
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:23,960
Speaker 1: way COVID has happened in this year, it almost feels

962
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:27,000
Speaker 1: like Marsh twenty twenty again. So if they don't win

963
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:29,680
Speaker 1: this game, who knows who they get in contact with

964
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:31,600
Speaker 1: the Washington football team who's gonna be missing next week.

965
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:33,840
Speaker 1: So I think you'll get a big effort from the Eagles.

966
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:36,000
Speaker 1: Check on the injury report for both teams and the

967
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:36,879
Speaker 1: Washington football team.

968
00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:39,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like the Eagles a little better here, but

969
00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:41,600
Speaker 2: I don't know if I'm gonna play this one. If

970
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:43,440
Speaker 2: the Lion is around six and a half six, it's

971
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 2: a little too rich for me. Eleven of the last

972
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:48,360
Speaker 2: seventeen games between these teams have been one score games,

973
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:52,120
Speaker 2: so it's usually close, and this is a weird spot

974
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:54,319
Speaker 2: on a Tuesday evening, and we don't really know we're

975
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:57,799
Speaker 2: gonna get from either side. I agree that Minshew is

976
00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:01,040
Speaker 2: not a huge downgrade as a player from Jalen Hurts,

977
00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:04,279
Speaker 2: but it's a big downgrade in identity. Like I've been

978
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:07,480
Speaker 2: in on this Eagles team because of that run first

979
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:10,600
Speaker 2: identity that they'd really taken with Hurts, and Minshew does

980
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 2: give them other options. I just feel like I don't

981
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:16,280
Speaker 2: want the standard version of the Eagles with them passing.

982
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:19,279
Speaker 2: I want I want the unique Eagles with Hurts and

983
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:22,840
Speaker 2: the rushing attack that has actually been working and getting

984
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 2: some interest from me. So if I know Hurts is playing,

985
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:29,719
Speaker 2: if I can get this line under six, so out

986
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:31,719
Speaker 2: get past that key number of five, five and a

987
00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:34,000
Speaker 2: half somewhere in there, maybe I look at the Eagles,

988
00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:37,280
Speaker 2: but I think otherwise I may stay away from this one.

989
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:40,200
Speaker 2: The other game Tuesday night, you and I are actually

990
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:43,440
Speaker 2: interested in this one, Seahawks at Rams. This is a

991
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:47,200
Speaker 2: big one. Rams have dominated this rivelry lately. Right now,

992
00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 2: Rams are six and a half or seven point favorites,

993
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:52,879
Speaker 2: depending on your book. See this is basically the line

994
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:54,799
Speaker 2: is about back to where it was before all the

995
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:58,839
Speaker 2: COVID stuff came in. So we both like Seahawks here,

996
00:49:58,880 --> 00:49:59,840
Speaker 2: Why do you like Seattle?

997
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:02,480
Speaker 1: I just think this line is too hot. Like when

998
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:05,399
Speaker 1: you look at this Los Angeles Rams team, I don't

999
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:09,600
Speaker 1: know if they've necessarily proved anything to me, especially when

1000
00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:12,560
Speaker 1: you look at this the fact that this Arizona Cardinals team,

1001
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:16,480
Speaker 1: they lost to the Detroit Lions today, So that's a

1002
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:20,319
Speaker 1: big reason why this line is so high. And look

1003
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:23,680
Speaker 1: you what is the record against winning teams? Like, like,

1004
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:26,920
Speaker 1: who have they truly truly beat? Obviously they beat the

1005
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:30,239
Speaker 1: Buccaneers earlier in the season, but I mean outside of that,

1006
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:32,400
Speaker 1: they've struggled. They lost to the four Nineers, lost to

1007
00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:35,560
Speaker 1: the Packers, they got blown out by the Titans. This

1008
00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:37,840
Speaker 1: team is a team that's been beaten up on in

1009
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:41,120
Speaker 1: fear or competition all year long. And when you look

1010
00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:44,120
Speaker 1: at the history between the Seahawks and the Rams, these

1011
00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:46,640
Speaker 1: teams always play each other tough. They played each other

1012
00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:48,759
Speaker 1: tough earlier on this year in the game in which

1013
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:53,840
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson got injured, So I'm expecting a closer matchup.

1014
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:57,359
Speaker 1: Rams still have some guys out with COVID. We still

1015
00:50:57,360 --> 00:51:00,880
Speaker 1: don't know who's missing from them. Ramsey is back this matchup,

1016
00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:04,600
Speaker 1: and I think the COVID news is it's gonna loom

1017
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:08,239
Speaker 1: large over all these games. Obviously Lockett was out for Seattle.

1018
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:10,120
Speaker 1: But I just think it's too many points.

1019
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:12,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's too many points. And I think

1020
00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 2: it's interesting too. So the last time we saw the

1021
00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:17,080
Speaker 2: Rams on the field was Monday Night a week ago,

1022
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:19,640
Speaker 2: when they beat up on the Cardinals and looked so good.

1023
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:23,319
Speaker 2: And it was very telling to me. I thought that

1024
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:26,840
Speaker 2: the Rams entered Monday Night favored by seven in this game,

1025
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:32,040
Speaker 2: beat the Cardinals, looked great in Arizona, and came out

1026
00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:34,920
Speaker 2: of the game still favored by the same seven points.

1027
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:37,959
Speaker 2: That to me is the book saying go ahead, bring

1028
00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:40,799
Speaker 2: us your Rams money. Throw it all on there. We're

1029
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:43,200
Speaker 2: not moving the line at all. We want that action.

1030
00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:46,360
Speaker 2: Give us your Rams money. I like Seattle here. I

1031
00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:48,200
Speaker 2: think it's too many points. I think there's too much

1032
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:51,600
Speaker 2: faith in the Rams right now before Monday Night football.

1033
00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:55,200
Speaker 2: But were the previous six weeks the Rams ranked thirty

1034
00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:59,360
Speaker 2: first in the NFL on EPA. Offensively, they were basically

1035
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:02,160
Speaker 2: tied with the Texans as the worst offense in the league,

1036
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:05,680
Speaker 2: and the Texans were extremely offensive during that stretch. I

1037
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:08,640
Speaker 2: assure you the Rams were second to last passing EPA

1038
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:12,000
Speaker 2: during that stretch too, so they've not been good. I

1039
00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:15,640
Speaker 2: don't know that one game against the Cardinals magically fixes

1040
00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:19,759
Speaker 2: everything for them. Russell Wilson for the season number one

1041
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:23,480
Speaker 2: EPA on early downs. He's looking a little healthier each week.

1042
00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:26,040
Speaker 2: He's gonna miss Tyler Lockett, so that is a big

1043
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:29,080
Speaker 2: hit here. But before all the news this week, this

1044
00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:31,480
Speaker 2: was one of my favorite spots, Seattle plus seven in

1045
00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:33,840
Speaker 2: that range. I still like it a lot here. Russell

1046
00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:37,240
Speaker 2: Wilson as an underdog twenty five twelve and two against

1047
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:39,920
Speaker 2: the spread in his career sixty eight percent cover rate,

1048
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:43,319
Speaker 2: so he's a guy that shows up. Seattle's not out

1049
00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:46,040
Speaker 2: of this yet. Seattle has a real chance to win

1050
00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 2: out here, and I'm seeing plus twenty four hundred at

1051
00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:51,719
Speaker 2: some books to make the playoffs. I already got my

1052
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:53,880
Speaker 2: money in on that one the long shot, but I

1053
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:55,840
Speaker 2: only think it's a twenty four to one long shot.

1054
00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:59,480
Speaker 2: The NFC race is open. Russell Wilson's playing well. They

1055
00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:02,400
Speaker 2: get this game here, They've got a real chance to

1056
00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:05,439
Speaker 2: close out strong and maybe still get into nine and eight.

1057
00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:07,240
Speaker 2: Them nine and eight gives you a shot in the NFC,

1058
00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:10,200
Speaker 2: so I like Seattle here. I'm gonna play the money

1059
00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:12,359
Speaker 2: line as well. Are you gonna play the money line

1060
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:13,120
Speaker 2: or stick with the cover.

1061
00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:16,719
Speaker 1: I'm gonna stick with the cover. But I agree with you.

1062
00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:18,960
Speaker 1: I do think they're alive to possibly make the playoffs

1063
00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:21,600
Speaker 1: at this point, So I do like the long shot there.

1064
00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:24,160
Speaker 1: Obviously got the Bears, the Lions, and the Cardinals, all

1065
00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:28,000
Speaker 1: of those winning winnable games, and I think we could

1066
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:30,680
Speaker 1: see it happen. I'm never gonna count Russell out. Russell

1067
00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:32,319
Speaker 1: is probably one of my favorite players in the league.

1068
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:35,960
Speaker 1: He's a guy who's just carried this franchise for so long,

1069
00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:38,719
Speaker 1: so he's never a guy that you want to count out.

1070
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:41,680
Speaker 2: They'll have a chance. Their biggest problem is not necessarily

1071
00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:43,399
Speaker 2: getting to that nine and eight. I think they could

1072
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:45,799
Speaker 2: do that, but a lot of the teams that they

1073
00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:47,560
Speaker 2: may have to go I had to have type breaker

1074
00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:50,160
Speaker 2: with are the teams they lost to already. So they're

1075
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:52,239
Speaker 2: gonna need to win and they're gonna need to get

1076
00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:55,000
Speaker 2: some help along the way. It's a steep challenge for sure,

1077
00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:57,680
Speaker 2: but I think Seattle does have a shot. Should be

1078
00:53:57,719 --> 00:54:00,600
Speaker 2: interesting we get some football. We're on this day two

1079
00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:03,280
Speaker 2: of a ten day stretch where we have NFL games

1080
00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:05,920
Speaker 2: on eight out of the ten days, and who knows,

1081
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:07,680
Speaker 2: the way things are going, we might fill in those

1082
00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:10,319
Speaker 2: other days too, so we'll see how this turns out.

1083
00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:15,040
Speaker 2: With Christmas coming up, we are going to cautiously tiptoe

1084
00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:18,759
Speaker 2: in to our Week sixteen hot read and just do

1085
00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:21,080
Speaker 2: one to pick each There's a lot of COVID news

1086
00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:23,600
Speaker 2: and everything this week, so let's hit our hot red

1087
00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:26,320
Speaker 2: and give you one to pick before the Christmas holiday.

1088
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:27,560
Speaker 2: Hot Rock.

1089
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:31,719
Speaker 1: Day on ice rights ice cream.

1090
00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:35,560
Speaker 2: Nice we got for him.

1091
00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:37,480
Speaker 1: I'm playing the two and a half points with the

1092
00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:40,120
Speaker 1: Cincinnati Bengals. I think I told you guys a couple

1093
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:42,439
Speaker 1: of weeks ago that the Baltimore Ravens could possibly miss

1094
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:47,680
Speaker 1: the postseason, and I'm still on that path. Look, Bengals,

1095
00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:50,200
Speaker 1: they can stop to run. They haven't allowed teams to

1096
00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:52,560
Speaker 1: rush for for one hundred yards in like the last

1097
00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:55,600
Speaker 1: five games, and I think they can do it again

1098
00:54:56,040 --> 00:55:00,520
Speaker 1: this week. And that's big against the Ravens, who they

1099
00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:02,759
Speaker 1: kind of need to run the ball. But the big

1100
00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:06,839
Speaker 1: part of this handycap is the Ravens defense. I know

1101
00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:09,480
Speaker 1: you guys have seen it. Obviously, they missed Klais Campbell

1102
00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:12,319
Speaker 1: this week on the defensive line, so the Packers were

1103
00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:15,480
Speaker 1: able to run the ball at will. And I think

1104
00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:17,920
Speaker 1: I think the Bengals gonna be able to run the

1105
00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:21,080
Speaker 1: ball with Joe Mixon. But the real problem with with

1106
00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:24,359
Speaker 1: the with the Baltimore Ravens right now is that they

1107
00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:26,920
Speaker 1: can't stop the pass. Their twenty fifth and drop back

1108
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:31,200
Speaker 1: EPA for play like they're like, this team can't stop

1109
00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:34,440
Speaker 1: the pass. We saw Aaron Rodgers Vonte Adams get whatever

1110
00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:37,720
Speaker 1: they won it in the passing game. And look, Jamar

1111
00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:41,160
Speaker 1: Chase is the offensive rookie of the year. Tyler Boards

1112
00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:44,160
Speaker 1: on the other side, Joe Burrow in this offense is

1113
00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:46,040
Speaker 1: gonna be able to get whatever they want as long

1114
00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:50,160
Speaker 1: as they remain aggressive. And you look at the Ravens offense,

1115
00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:52,840
Speaker 1: I still don't trust this Ravens offense. Outside of this

1116
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:56,040
Speaker 1: game against the Packers, you look at four out of

1117
00:55:56,040 --> 00:55:58,479
Speaker 1: the last five games or so, they haven't been able

1118
00:55:58,520 --> 00:56:02,000
Speaker 1: to break twenty points. So I'm taking the Bengals here.

1119
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:05,040
Speaker 1: I'm laying it with them. I also think you might

1120
00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:07,480
Speaker 1: as well put something on the Bengals to win the

1121
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:09,640
Speaker 1: AFC North, because I think right now they're probably the

1122
00:56:09,640 --> 00:56:13,359
Speaker 1: best team in this division pound for pound, and maybe

1123
00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:15,080
Speaker 1: you want to pull something on the Ravens and missed

1124
00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:16,400
Speaker 1: the playoffs.

1125
00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:18,520
Speaker 2: Out The Bengals and the Ravens are basically dad heat

1126
00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:22,280
Speaker 2: to win the division at books right now, So obviously

1127
00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:25,160
Speaker 2: this game will go a long way as toward determining

1128
00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:27,960
Speaker 2: certainly who is the favorite in that division. I got

1129
00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:30,200
Speaker 2: a little something on Pittsburgh. I got Pittsburgh in a

1130
00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:34,320
Speaker 2: few parlays. We talked about this out of Bill's Colts

1131
00:56:34,520 --> 00:56:37,319
Speaker 2: Steelers parlay and one with the Rams. A little extra

1132
00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:40,479
Speaker 2: ticket on there too. Good weekend for my very very

1133
00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:44,200
Speaker 2: long shot five thousand to one division parlay. It's a

1134
00:56:44,239 --> 00:56:47,520
Speaker 2: good start so far, so the Bengals. I needed the

1135
00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:50,120
Speaker 2: Bengals to lose with the Broncos so that the Bengals

1136
00:56:50,120 --> 00:56:51,480
Speaker 2: are looking a little better than I was hoping they

1137
00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:54,839
Speaker 2: would be another Bengals win here. I agree with you.

1138
00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:57,359
Speaker 2: It's a good spot for them. Their thing you didn't mention.

1139
00:56:57,719 --> 00:57:00,880
Speaker 2: We know Lamar Jackson will play, so it's entirely possible

1140
00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:03,279
Speaker 2: he misses again, and if you do, then you gotta

1141
00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:05,480
Speaker 2: grab this line now because it's gonna probably get closer

1142
00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:07,880
Speaker 2: to a touchdown by kickoff if Lamar is out again,

1143
00:57:08,239 --> 00:57:11,000
Speaker 2: even as good as Tyle Huntley as looked. So I

1144
00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:14,360
Speaker 2: like that one. I'm gonna going ugly on my pick.

1145
00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:17,920
Speaker 2: I'm gonna take the Atlanta Falcons minus four and a

1146
00:57:17,960 --> 00:57:21,560
Speaker 2: half at home against the Detroit Lions. So this is

1147
00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:25,320
Speaker 2: just a number play because the Falcons were a touchdown

1148
00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:29,680
Speaker 2: favorite this morning, and then what happened. The Lions won

1149
00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:31,720
Speaker 2: a game. So we move the line two and a

1150
00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:34,280
Speaker 2: half points, and now we're getting value on Atlanta. Here,

1151
00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:39,080
Speaker 2: look Atlanta or sorry, Detroit, here's what happens. It's not

1152
00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:41,240
Speaker 2: like this team has broke through and it's suddenly a

1153
00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:44,040
Speaker 2: good team. Now we've seen this with the Lions. Week one,

1154
00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:46,240
Speaker 2: they hung with the Niners. They come back out the

1155
00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:48,680
Speaker 2: next week, get blown off the field by the Packers.

1156
00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:52,200
Speaker 2: The next week, they almost beat Baltimore. The next game,

1157
00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:55,240
Speaker 2: after lose by double digits to the Bears, they almost

1158
00:57:55,240 --> 00:57:57,720
Speaker 2: beat the Vikings. The next week, they lose by twenty

1159
00:57:57,760 --> 00:58:00,280
Speaker 2: one to the Bengals. They lead the Rams in the

1160
00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:02,960
Speaker 2: fourth quarter. They lose the next week by thirty eight

1161
00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:05,920
Speaker 2: to the Eagles. They beat the Vikings their first win

1162
00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:08,640
Speaker 2: of the season, they lose by twenty eight the next game.

1163
00:58:09,080 --> 00:58:12,280
Speaker 2: So this is the Yo Yo effect happening. I'm not

1164
00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:14,320
Speaker 2: really worried about the Lions here. The other thing too,

1165
00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:17,880
Speaker 2: we know Atlanta has been very up and down, but

1166
00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:20,920
Speaker 2: they're actually been kind of predictable against teams that are

1167
00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:23,280
Speaker 2: currently in the playoff hunt, and I'm counting the Eagles there.

1168
00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:26,920
Speaker 2: For now, Atlanta is zero to six minus one forty

1169
00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:29,560
Speaker 2: five point differential. If you play someone good like the

1170
00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:33,800
Speaker 2: Niners today, they get crushed. Against everyone else. Atlanta is

1171
00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:37,360
Speaker 2: six and two with a plus fifteen point differential. Guess what,

1172
00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:41,360
Speaker 2: the Lions are extremely everyone else still, So I'm gonna

1173
00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:43,440
Speaker 2: take Atlanta. I think we're getting a gift of a

1174
00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:46,520
Speaker 2: few points here. This line's gonna move back up. People

1175
00:58:46,520 --> 00:58:49,040
Speaker 2: are gonna put their money on Atlanta. It's gonna, you know,

1176
00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:51,400
Speaker 2: move toward a touchdown again. So I'm gonna grab that

1177
00:58:51,440 --> 00:58:52,840
Speaker 2: one before the line jumps back.

1178
00:58:53,400 --> 00:58:55,200
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie you. I think this spreads a

1179
00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:57,400
Speaker 1: little bit too hot. I actually have it like three

1180
00:58:57,400 --> 00:59:00,520
Speaker 1: and a half like four and a half. I just

1181
00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:04,600
Speaker 1: I just can't do it. I really can't get there. Obviously,

1182
00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:07,840
Speaker 1: I think maybe this line might be a little bit

1183
00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:10,080
Speaker 1: higher based on the result than we saw today. Obviously,

1184
00:59:10,080 --> 00:59:12,439
Speaker 1: the Falcons are like one to five in the red

1185
00:59:12,680 --> 00:59:15,240
Speaker 1: zone against this fort nine ers team, and it probably

1186
00:59:15,240 --> 00:59:17,320
Speaker 1: should have been a closer game, which they covered. But

1187
00:59:17,600 --> 00:59:19,680
Speaker 1: I mean, when you look at these teams there, these

1188
00:59:19,720 --> 00:59:23,439
Speaker 1: are pretty equally matched teams. You got Falcons twenty fifth

1189
00:59:23,440 --> 00:59:27,840
Speaker 1: and EPA play on offense, Lions twenty ninth and EPA

1190
00:59:28,120 --> 00:59:32,040
Speaker 1: play on offense. When you look at the defense Lions

1191
00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:36,280
Speaker 1: thirtieth an EPA per play on defense, Falcons twenty six.

1192
00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:39,080
Speaker 1: So I think this line should probably be around three

1193
00:59:39,200 --> 00:59:42,120
Speaker 1: three and a half. I really don't want to lay

1194
00:59:42,520 --> 00:59:45,200
Speaker 1: four and a half five points Matt Ryan and the

1195
00:59:45,240 --> 00:59:46,840
Speaker 1: dead zone, so I wish you the best.

1196
00:59:46,960 --> 00:59:51,160
Speaker 2: Look, right, it took a dump on my high read. However,

1197
00:59:51,520 --> 00:59:53,760
Speaker 2: the numbers, You're right, the numbers are not kind to

1198
00:59:53,800 --> 00:59:56,440
Speaker 2: the Falcons, but it's a very polarized team. If we're

1199
00:59:56,480 --> 01:00:00,160
Speaker 2: able to separate out Falcons versus definitely good teams and

1200
01:00:00,200 --> 01:00:03,560
Speaker 2: Falcons against anyone else, then those numbers really switch out

1201
01:00:03,560 --> 01:00:05,240
Speaker 2: a lot, and of course that'd be true of anyone,

1202
01:00:05,560 --> 01:00:08,040
Speaker 2: but with Atlanta it's been extremely true this year. So

1203
01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:10,280
Speaker 2: I like the Falcons here. I've been kind of playing

1204
01:00:10,320 --> 01:00:12,840
Speaker 2: the hot and cold team with some success lately, and

1205
01:00:12,840 --> 01:00:14,520
Speaker 2: I think it's a good spot to fade Detroit off

1206
01:00:14,520 --> 01:00:16,320
Speaker 2: of their win. Detroit, I think will be in a

1207
01:00:16,360 --> 01:00:18,120
Speaker 2: little bit of panic mode too, like we got to

1208
01:00:18,160 --> 01:00:20,280
Speaker 2: make sure that we lose a game now and keep

1209
01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:22,360
Speaker 2: our high draft pick, So there's a little bit of

1210
01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:24,680
Speaker 2: incentive there too. The Falcons are still in the playoff mix.

1211
01:00:24,880 --> 01:00:27,479
Speaker 2: They shouldn't be what they are so well, I guess

1212
01:00:27,480 --> 01:00:30,600
Speaker 2: we've had to add on this truly irrelevant terrible Falcons

1213
01:00:30,600 --> 01:00:33,600
Speaker 2: Lions game and see what happens there. That's going to

1214
01:00:33,680 --> 01:00:36,560
Speaker 2: wrap it up today. At the Action Howork podcast, Stucky

1215
01:00:36,600 --> 01:00:38,760
Speaker 2: and rab On are back Wednesday night with their six

1216
01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:42,320
Speaker 2: pack betting guide. Raheem and I are back Thursday afternoon.

1217
01:00:42,440 --> 01:00:44,640
Speaker 2: This week, we'll be dropping now one early with the

1218
01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:47,600
Speaker 2: holidays coming, so we'll get our usual run through the

1219
01:00:47,640 --> 01:00:50,560
Speaker 2: slate and some look aheads getting you ready for Christmas

1220
01:00:50,600 --> 01:00:54,600
Speaker 2: weekend of NFL football. For Erne Palmer, I'm Brandon Anderson,

1221
01:00:54,640 --> 01:00:57,520
Speaker 2: and this has been the Action Howork podcast. We're on

1222
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Speaker 2: two week sixteen

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