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Speaker 1: It is a midweek Wednesday. Hey tell me this is

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Speaker 1: a slow week. It doesn't feel like it. We've got

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Speaker 1: a lot to talk about. We are live, We're in Chicago.

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Speaker 1: It's The Herd, Jmac Major League Baseball. I know on

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Speaker 1: these shows, nobody likes anybody in power. They don't like.

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Speaker 1: They don't like people in Canada. If you're the prime minister,

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Speaker 1: everybody's devisive. Nobody likes commissioners, but Rob Manfred Baseball has

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Speaker 1: been a case study in how to pivot in a

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Speaker 1: business that's got tradition and lore and history and a

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Speaker 1: lot of purists. Last night was three and a half

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Speaker 1: hours of great television for an exhibition. It was really good?

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Speaker 1: Was that not fun? That was as good as all? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I mean the Pro Bowls unwatchable, NBA All Star Games unwatchable.

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Speaker 1: I know I'm gonna sound like a Homer. But the

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Speaker 1: Fox production on that broadcast last night was magnificent, a

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Speaker 1: masterclass in TV production. Between that the ABS system, lots

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Speaker 1: of runs. Let's talk about it because major League Baseball

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Speaker 1: a couple of years ago got over itself and decided

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Speaker 1: let's lean into entertainment. They didn't need to revolutionize. They

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Speaker 1: just kind of needed to retro fit. What the twenty

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Speaker 1: they want to watch? Home run derby ratings up last night?

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Speaker 1: I'm sure ratings will be significantly up. Miking Clayton Kershaw

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Speaker 1: a legend? Are Sandy Kofax? Miking him? I could have

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Speaker 1: sat and watched that for an hour. Here's a clip.

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Speaker 1: I can't believe you're doing this, Clayton.

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Speaker 2: Okay, e there, let's try to throw some cheese real quick.

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Speaker 3: Hold on.

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Speaker 1: All right?

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Speaker 2: Going cheese again?

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's smart. I mean you and Paul Skeens

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Speaker 1: are pretty much the same guy right down the middle.

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Speaker 2: I'm so glad you didn't swing.

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Speaker 4: What do you want, smoltzy?

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Speaker 3: What do you want? Cut her in? Slider in?

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Speaker 2: I don't throw a cutter smelty slider, son of them?

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Speaker 4: All right, what's the count too too, so weird.

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Speaker 2: Talking to you guys.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of.

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Speaker 3: Hey, sit him.

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Speaker 4: Down, thanks guys.

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Speaker 3: That was fun.

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Speaker 2: That was fun.

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Speaker 1: I kind of just sat and watched that. That's fascinating,

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Speaker 1: an inside glimpse, lean into entertainment, lean into technology. Now

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Speaker 1: some of baseball's growth, it's because Aaron Judge plays for

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Speaker 1: the Yankees, no tany plays for the Dodgers, and the

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Speaker 1: Dodgers have might as well have a Nationalague All Star team,

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Speaker 1: but they're stars in Kansas City and stars in Pittsburgh,

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Speaker 1: and the sport just stop fawning over tradition and stop

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Speaker 1: taking itself so seriously and also wearing the real jerseys

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Speaker 1: for casuals and purists alike. That last two years have

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Speaker 1: the Sacramento A's Brent Rooker, let's hear it, wait to

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Speaker 5: I gotta say, you know, it was pretty exciting, Like

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Speaker 1: Didn't need to revolutionize the sport, speed it up, retro

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Speaker 1: That's the best All Star game in any sport I've

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Speaker 1: But now, and you know, listen, some of it is

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Speaker 1: It doesn't hurt that Joe Davis sounds like a young

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Speaker 1: Vin Scully. It just felt magnificent. It felt big, and

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Speaker 1: baseball has been in about a three year heater. Two

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Speaker 1: things can be true. You can respect tradition but not

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Speaker 1: be beholden to it. And that's what baseball has done

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Speaker 1: a very good job of. And last night fantastic, just

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Speaker 1: fantastic television. Beginning to end. I watched an hour and

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Speaker 1: know it's July. So any little breadcrumb of an NBA

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Speaker 1: or star rumor, it's an inferno. I don't buy Lebron

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Speaker 1: James is going to get traded. He's still really good.

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Speaker 1: It's an expiring contract. Let's see what happens to the

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Speaker 1: trade deadline. The Lakers could have even more leverage. But

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Speaker 1: I'm looking at the betting odds today and they are

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Speaker 1: heating up that Dallas. Dallas is the favorite now to

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Speaker 1: get Lebron James. Well, if that's the case, Lebron wins again.

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Speaker 1: No state tax, upgraded coach Cooper flag reunited with Anthony Davis.

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Speaker 1: Are you kidding me? Let's be honest about the Lakers.

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Speaker 1: I think JJ Reddick had a decent first year. I

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Speaker 1: like him. We don't know if he's ever going to

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Speaker 1: be as good as Jason Kidd. Maybe not. He got

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Speaker 1: Austin Reeves, I'm told, can't trade him seriously, not much

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Speaker 1: for simplicity's sake, I said, if you did a trade,

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Speaker 1: the Mavericks lineup, Kyrie Irving, Cooper Flag, Lebron, Anthony Davis,

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Speaker 1: great big on rookie deals for years. So you're telling

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Speaker 1: me this is a punishment for Lebron. I would sign

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Speaker 1: up for that today. Better coach reunited with two guys

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Speaker 1: I've played very well with and won a title with

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Speaker 1: Kyrie and Anthony Davis and the great domestic star. And

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Speaker 1: here's the thing with Lebron. Lebron is forty one years old.

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Speaker 1: He does not want to be in the floor defending

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Speaker 1: Lively are great rim protectors, so you don't have to

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Speaker 1: college level, is an excellent defender. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: Cooper Flag is going to be a great offensive player

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Speaker 1: know he'll defend year one. So if this is the

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Speaker 1: punishment for Lebron James, sign up now for it. I

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Speaker 1: don't think it's gonna happen. Here was Anthony Slater from

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Speaker 1: The Athletic on a potential Lebron trade out of LA.

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Speaker 6: The Lakers, you know, can go search for, you know,

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Speaker 6: a younger co star for Luka Doncics in the in

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Speaker 6: the market if they want to. Flexibility optionality has become

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Speaker 6: a popular term in the league, and that's clearly what

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Speaker 6: the Lakers they are prioritizing here. And it's understandable. Just

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Speaker 6: look at the ages.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 6: Lebron's gonna turn forty one next year. It's unbelievable what

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Speaker 4: But as you.

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Speaker 6: Mentioned, locking into longer term money on him, you know,

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Speaker 6: kind of handcuffed them a little bit on building around Luca.

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Speaker 1: Listen, if if Lebron won a fourth title and that

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Speaker 1: get they have so much depth in Dallas in their

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Speaker 1: front line. They're huge, best center rotation in the league.

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Speaker 1: Lakers need, I mean Deondre eight and you're going to

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Speaker 1: be over him by like January fifteenth. You're going to

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Speaker 1: that's what the new owners want. They don't want to

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Speaker 1: to give up Klay Thompson. He could come back to

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Speaker 1: Los Angeles. Michael Thompson, his dad, a very nice guy,

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Speaker 1: played for the Lakers. Send him draft picks size. But

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Speaker 1: if that's punishment, I said this. You know, sports is

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I looked at the stock market this week.

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Speaker 1: It's at forty four thousand plus the Dow. It just

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Speaker 1: When this trade got done, Luca to the Lakers, it

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Speaker 1: was the end of the Mavericks franchise. And I said,

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Speaker 1: on this show in front of this microphone, no it's not.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: Dallas fell apart physically, so it looked far worse than

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Speaker 1: it was. But Laker fans got a glimpse of what

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Speaker 1: Luca is singularly, a profoundly gifted offensive player, that's what

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Speaker 1: he is. And he kind of feels like he's aging quickly.

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Speaker 1: So you know, I've always said that you can talk

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Speaker 1: you pay close attention. Everybody said Lakers are going to

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Speaker 1: win titles and Dallas is done, and I kept saying, no,

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Speaker 1: they're not. They've got a great coach, it's an attractive place.

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Speaker 1: They got Kyrie, they've got Anthony Davis and a man

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Speaker 1: center rotation. And in the NBA, guards and bigs are

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Speaker 1: really important. Right now. You know, you're gonna have to

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Speaker 1: defend Jokic, gonna have to defend Wemby, you gotta defend Giannis.

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Speaker 1: You know you gotta have bigs. Okay, see, you won

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Speaker 1: a title, had two Bigs, Holmgren, Hartenstein. So this is

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Speaker 1: just so funny. The way sports works is everybody thought

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Speaker 1: Dallas was doomed. If this thing came to fruition, sign

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Speaker 1: me up for Dallas minimum Western Conference finals. J Mac

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Speaker 1: doesn't want to hear it. I'm becoming a Mavericks fan.

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Speaker 1: My only question is would the GM Nico Harrison want

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Speaker 1: to make another deal. I would do that deal in

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Speaker 7: If I'm the Lakers, there's no way I'm doing the deal.

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Speaker 2: I think the two of them as it stands right now,

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Speaker 2: need each other too much not to find a way

430
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Speaker 2: to get something done.

431
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Speaker 1: So are the Jets They just gave a new contract

432
00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:05,600
Speaker 1: to Sauce Gardner and Garrett Wilson. What is the message

433
00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:09,000
Speaker 1: the Jets are sending? Why? Now? I get the players

434
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Speaker 1: but what's the message.

435
00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:12,600
Speaker 2: Well, both those guys had a really strong spring, you know,

436
00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:14,600
Speaker 2: and I think there's a message there that.

437
00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:17,119
Speaker 4: We are going to reward people who do it the

438
00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:17,680
Speaker 4: right way.

439
00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:19,920
Speaker 2: And I think for Aaron Glenn and for Darren Moosey,

440
00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:23,280
Speaker 2: their new general manager coming in there, that's an important thing.

441
00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:25,439
Speaker 2: If you buy into the way that we're doing things,

442
00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:27,680
Speaker 2: you don't need to be our draft picks, you don't

443
00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:30,760
Speaker 2: need to be our signings. And you know, it's interesting

444
00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:34,160
Speaker 2: because I think when Aaron Glenn got to the Lions,

445
00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:36,520
Speaker 2: for the most part, they just brought in new guys,

446
00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:38,760
Speaker 2: but there were guys that they held on to that

447
00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:42,359
Speaker 2: became foundation pieces for him, right Taylor Decker, the left tackle,

448
00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:46,239
Speaker 2: Frank Ragnow with somebody that they inherited. And so you

449
00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:48,560
Speaker 2: see a bunch of guys that could be that for

450
00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:51,800
Speaker 2: the Jets going forward. That's not a roster devoided talent.

451
00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:54,760
Speaker 2: There's the basis of a really good defense. Quentnin Williams,

452
00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:58,520
Speaker 2: Jermaine Johnson, you know, Quincy Williams, Sauce Gardner.

453
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Speaker 4: On the offensive side of the ball.

454
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Speaker 2: You got here at Wilson, you got Olufashana, you got

455
00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:04,560
Speaker 2: Oliver Att Tucker, you got breisall these are all guys

456
00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:07,919
Speaker 2: that the new regime inherited. So if you want to

457
00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:09,680
Speaker 2: get those guys on board, you know what you do.

458
00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:12,600
Speaker 2: You get through the spring you say we really believe

459
00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:14,600
Speaker 2: in your talent. Now we believe in the person, and

460
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Speaker 2: we're going to go.

461
00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:17,280
Speaker 4: And reward you. And I think Wilson and saw us

462
00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:18,760
Speaker 4: for the first two examples of it.

463
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Speaker 1: Hey there was there are you know, this is the

464
00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:27,640
Speaker 1: silly season that you know, little breadcrumbs of information leak out.

465
00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:32,000
Speaker 1: And I saw the Nick Saban rumors. Lane Kiffin knows them. Well,

466
00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:35,240
Speaker 1: I think you'll come back, and I don't think. I

467
00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:38,040
Speaker 1: think NFL football is actually easier to coach as long

468
00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:40,560
Speaker 1: as you don't get a crazy owner. And I also

469
00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:43,640
Speaker 1: think because of the NIL you can't just fire coaches

470
00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:46,399
Speaker 1: like you used to. Teams that are going to boosters

471
00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:49,120
Speaker 1: they need fifteen to eighteen million for NIL money. They're

472
00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:51,720
Speaker 1: not paying sixty two million to get rid of Brian Kelly.

473
00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:53,959
Speaker 1: You're seventy million to get rid of Lincoln Riley. So

474
00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:56,280
Speaker 1: there's not going to be any openings at the best positions.

475
00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:59,280
Speaker 1: And Ryan Day is not going anywhere, and Dan Lanning's

476
00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:02,080
Speaker 1: crushing it starts doing well in link. There's nothing Kaylen

477
00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:03,640
Speaker 1: de Boor is going to turn it around this year.

478
00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:06,639
Speaker 1: Do you think somebody would take a call on Saban

479
00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:07,280
Speaker 1: in the NFL?

480
00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:10,280
Speaker 4: You mean somebody would make a call on Saban?

481
00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:13,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, yea, yeah.

482
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:15,000
Speaker 2: Sure, yeah, I mean I do, I think. I mean

483
00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:19,000
Speaker 2: it's been what I think now eighteen years since Saban

484
00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:22,920
Speaker 2: left the Dolphins to go to go to Alabama, and

485
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:25,520
Speaker 2: one thing I've learned in covering the league over all

486
00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:28,760
Speaker 2: of that time is no one thought the guy couldn't coach.

487
00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:31,879
Speaker 2: Like the idea that the guy couldn't scheme at an

488
00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:35,280
Speaker 2: NFL level, couldn't lead at an NFL level that way

489
00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:37,720
Speaker 2: that was had zero to do with why it didn't work.

490
00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:40,760
Speaker 2: It was because of the program, and it was it

491
00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:44,120
Speaker 2: was demanding, and the quarterback situation didn't didn't work out

492
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:47,320
Speaker 2: because of the way he had his program set up

493
00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:50,480
Speaker 2: back then. It was sort of this old school type

494
00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:54,439
Speaker 2: of deal where if you don't win quickly, if you

495
00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:57,639
Speaker 2: don't give players results quickly, they're going to tire of

496
00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:00,600
Speaker 2: that pretty quickly. And what have we seen do over

497
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:04,439
Speaker 2: the last seventeen eighteen years. He constantly adapts you know,

498
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:07,159
Speaker 2: like what a Nick Saban team was in two thousand

499
00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:09,480
Speaker 2: and eight and two thousand and nine was way different

500
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:12,680
Speaker 2: than the teams that he had when Jerry Judy and DeVante.

501
00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:14,119
Speaker 4: Smith were running all over the place, you know what

502
00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:14,480
Speaker 4: I mean.

503
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:18,160
Speaker 2: So he's adaptable, he's a really good football coach.

504
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:19,119
Speaker 4: He's well respected.

505
00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:21,399
Speaker 2: I think it'd be a little bit like Belichick in

506
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:23,960
Speaker 2: this way, and almost like when Tom Brady was a

507
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 2: free agent, right.

508
00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:27,520
Speaker 4: It would be a very narrow group.

509
00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:29,560
Speaker 2: Of teams that would be looking at the idea of

510
00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:33,159
Speaker 2: hiring him, Like you need to have a quarterback, you

511
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:35,040
Speaker 2: need to live in a need to be in a

512
00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:37,520
Speaker 2: part of the country he was comfortable with, and you

513
00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:39,320
Speaker 2: would need to have a win now roster. But if

514
00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:42,240
Speaker 2: you have those three things in place, I mean, like

515
00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 2: he's around the same age as Pete Carroll. So if

516
00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:48,359
Speaker 2: you're an owner looking for credibility, it makes sense to

517
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:50,720
Speaker 2: hire Nick Saban. Like, if you've lost credibility in your

518
00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:53,480
Speaker 2: market and you feel like you've not you've got to

519
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:56,040
Speaker 2: find a way to get it back fast. Hiring Nick

520
00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:58,240
Speaker 2: Saban could be a way to do that, and maybe

521
00:26:58,240 --> 00:26:59,760
Speaker 2: it would for all the reasons you laid out in

522
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:02,159
Speaker 2: college and the pros appeal to Nick to come to

523
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:02,720
Speaker 2: the NFL.

524
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:04,959
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm gonna throw this at you, Albert, and you

525
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:06,600
Speaker 1: have a sense of history.

526
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:06,960
Speaker 4: Yep.

527
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 1: So he's the greatest college football coach of all time.

528
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:13,199
Speaker 1: He goes to ESPN for a couple of years and

529
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:17,480
Speaker 1: he's been an absolute home run as an analyst. Got

530
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:21,480
Speaker 1: a little itch and there's he's not going to Jacksonville,

531
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:26,520
Speaker 1: but Bryan Schottenheimer is over his skis, and Jerry Jones says,

532
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:29,400
Speaker 1: I don't I don't want one of these NFL egos.

533
00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 1: I you know what Jerry likes to do. He likes

534
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 1: to hire guys where they feel like they owe him

535
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:39,879
Speaker 1: a little. And Jerry could go to Saban and go, Okay,

536
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:43,200
Speaker 1: this Schottenneimery thing doesn't work. Jaden Daniels and Jalen Hurts,

537
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:47,320
Speaker 1: I need a guy that knows college personnel. I'm just

538
00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:51,400
Speaker 1: saying Dallas. I don't think Saban would go to New York.

539
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:55,800
Speaker 1: But if you're talking about guy, just just ego, best

540
00:27:55,800 --> 00:28:00,320
Speaker 1: college coach ever, absolute five star analyst on TV. He's

541
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 1: not challenged. He's still youthful, sharp as attack the Dallas

542
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,680
Speaker 1: Cowboys call. He's not taking that call.

543
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:12,080
Speaker 2: It makes some sense for sure, you know, and I

544
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:15,720
Speaker 2: guess geographical is not all that far from Trum where

545
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:18,560
Speaker 2: he put down roots over the last you know, two decades.

546
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:20,840
Speaker 2: I mean, the Giants are always going to be interesting because,

547
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 2: as you know, I'm sure Colin like the Maras were

548
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 2: fascinated with Nick and I think there was a point

549
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:27,920
Speaker 2: in the nineties where they were trying to hire him

550
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,320
Speaker 2: from Michigan State, so they've had an interest in him

551
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:33,720
Speaker 2: going back that far right. Like, so I think it's

552
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:36,119
Speaker 2: the first one that NFL people always consider, is like

553
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 2: would the Giants do it? Because there was that interest

554
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 2: about twenty years ago. The Cowboys are interesting because they

555
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:43,480
Speaker 2: do have a lot of win now elements and he

556
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:47,680
Speaker 2: could come in there and and really go into a

557
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:50,520
Speaker 2: place that's set up for a strong coach. And it's

558
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 2: interesting because I think, you know, like the one thing

559
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:58,840
Speaker 2: about Dallas that people misunderstand is yes, Jerry's involved in football,

560
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:02,000
Speaker 2: but the coach is involved in scouting too, Like the

561
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:04,160
Speaker 2: coach is involved in putting the team together, and that's

562
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 2: always been the way that it's been run there. And

563
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:09,760
Speaker 2: in that like, they've got a really good personnel department.

564
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 4: Will W.

565
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:12,400
Speaker 2: Clay does a great job, but they've always involved the

566
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:14,640
Speaker 2: coach and how the team is put together. I think

567
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 2: it's why they've been able to put some really coherent

568
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:20,960
Speaker 2: rosters over the last twenty years, you know, really going

569
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 2: back to when Parcels was there. The one question for

570
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 2: me is the spotlight factor right, And I think if

571
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:30,880
Speaker 2: Jerry was going to do this, part of it would

572
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:34,120
Speaker 2: be are you willing to take a back seat and

573
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:37,480
Speaker 2: move away from the spotlight for a little bit to

574
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:39,239
Speaker 2: see if Nick Saban can come and do it.

575
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:41,960
Speaker 4: But for a lot of different reasons, it does make sense.

576
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 2: So look, I think Schottenheimer is going to do a

577
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 2: better job than most people do. But I mean, I

578
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:48,800
Speaker 2: just think if you if you want to line the

579
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:51,360
Speaker 2: whole thing up and say he needs to go to

580
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 2: a brand name, you know, he needs to go to

581
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,840
Speaker 2: one of the flagship franchises. The part of the country

582
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 2: that it's in and the way they're set up, I

583
00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:00,120
Speaker 2: could see Saban working working in down.

584
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 1: I think quiet I know this is a wacky topic, Albert,

585
00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 1: but I think quietly, Nick Saban thinks he's a better

586
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:11,920
Speaker 1: coach than Belichick, and if Belichick goes to so Belichick

587
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:16,240
Speaker 1: can't win without Brady, goes to Carolina, it doesn't go well.

588
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 1: Nick goes to the NFL greatest college coach ever, unbelievable

589
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:27,240
Speaker 1: media star, and wins in resurrects Dallas. I think Nick,

590
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 1: deep down thinks hell I would have won in Miami

591
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:31,920
Speaker 1: if the if the doctor would have said okay with

592
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:35,120
Speaker 1: Drew Brees. And I think Nick is so hyper competitive

593
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:37,480
Speaker 1: it sticks in his crawl. I really do. And I

594
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:40,200
Speaker 1: don't think it's crazy. I don't think it's nuts. There

595
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:42,400
Speaker 1: you go, I'm nuts whatever. I don't care.

596
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:47,880
Speaker 2: Like, just from an NFL reporters standpoint, please come Nick.

597
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:50,680
Speaker 4: I would I would. I would love to have. I mean,

598
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:52,600
Speaker 4: that storyline would be unbelievable.

599
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 2: I don't care what TV's with, like the idea of

600
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:57,360
Speaker 2: having Nick Saban back in the NFL, just to see

601
00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:01,400
Speaker 2: if it would work, because he look like I don't

602
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:03,720
Speaker 2: think like I remember as a kid, like looking back

603
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 2: at John Wooden right and thinking to myself, like you

604
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 2: looked at and I obviously wasn't born when Wooden was coaching,

605
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:13,400
Speaker 2: but you looked at that track record of success at

606
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:16,760
Speaker 2: UCLA as a basketball coach, said, no one's ever gonna

607
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 2: do that again, and Saban more or less did at Alabama,

608
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 2: maybe not quite the number of championship, but as far

609
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 2: as like a run of dominance, like I feel like

610
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 2: Saban was almost like John Wooden. So I mean, of course,

611
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:32,320
Speaker 2: I think, I like, it'd be fascinating to see what

612
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:34,040
Speaker 2: Nick Saban could do if you got another run at

613
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:36,280
Speaker 2: the NFL, and I do I would say this like

614
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 2: I I mean, the players are thoroughly prepared for the

615
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:41,400
Speaker 2: league that come out of that program. I mean, that

616
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 2: was always the thing with him, was like there were

617
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:47,480
Speaker 2: two things about Nick Saban program. Nick Saban players coming

618
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:50,560
Speaker 2: out of Alabama. They were beat up because they played

619
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 2: a physical style and practices were tough, and they were

620
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 2: maxed out. And that was actually a compliment to Saban

621
00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 2: and saying Nick got everything he possibly could out of

622
00:31:59,240 --> 00:31:59,720
Speaker 2: every player.

623
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:01,960
Speaker 4: NFL people all had great respect for him.

624
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 2: And again it was like his failure in Miami. I

625
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 2: think he'd be hard pressed to find a single person

626
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:10,959
Speaker 2: in the NFL who would say he didn't win in

627
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 2: Miami because he wasn't a good enough coach.

628
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, by the way, we just spent eight minutes on

629
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 1: something that may never come to fruition and I'm I'm

630
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:22,400
Speaker 1: I know I took a detour. I'm fascinated by it

631
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 1: because I think Nick tape Down wants to be mentioned

632
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 1: in the Andy Reid Belichick group. And I did, like

633
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:33,040
Speaker 1: Jim Harball, Oh he's a Michigan man. He wanted to

634
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 1: these hyper competitive guys hardball, even at Michigan the minute

635
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 1: he had an opportunity justin Herbert's available.

636
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 2: That loss to his brother and the super Bowl stuck

637
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 2: with him like you wouldn't. I mean, it's he was

638
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 2: right there at the mountaintop, and it's stuck with him.

639
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 2: And the one thing the Michigan job wasn't going to

640
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 2: get him was the chance to make that right. And

641
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 2: I mean, I think it in the same sort of

642
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 2: way the picking Dante Culpepper over Drew Brees thing in

643
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 2: two thousand and six is stuck with Nick Saban. I mean,

644
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 2: you remember column they were I was a promising team

645
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Speaker 2: coming out of the seven the five season. A lot

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Speaker 2: of people thought like, if Dante Culpeper hit and he

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Speaker 2: was the player that he had been a few years earlier,

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Speaker 2: that team could have been in the super Bowl. And

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Speaker 2: obviously it came undone, but yeah, I think Nick probably.

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Speaker 2: I think Nick looks at the decision, the quarterback decision

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Speaker 2: of two thousand and six, the same way that that

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Speaker 2: Jim Harbaugh looks back at that Super Bowl in twenty twelve.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to keep this tape. Let's archive this, guys,

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Speaker 1: because we may we may have touched on magic magic

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Speaker 1: potion here. That's all I gotta say. All right, by

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Speaker 1: the way, here's my college football national title bubble. Throw

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Speaker 1: this up for albert I don't know how good Ohio

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Speaker 1: States quarterback is, but they have the best defensive player

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Speaker 1: and offensive player. I do a Super Bowl bubble about

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Speaker 1: once a month. I think Notre Dame and Bama. I

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Speaker 1: don't know how good the quarterback I have to work in.

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Speaker 1: What do you make of that?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that makes sense. I think Penn State's gonna

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Speaker 2: be really good. Oregons, Yeah, that totally makes sense. You

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Speaker 2: never rule out Georgia with Kirby, those those five seem

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Speaker 2: like a good five to be in there. I think

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Speaker 2: Notre Dame. I think Notre Dames can be really good again.

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Speaker 2: You know, Lloyd Carr's grandson is a quarterback there. I

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Speaker 2: think he's going to be a really good player. So

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Speaker 2: Notre Dame's interesting after the year they had last year.

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Speaker 2: But I think i'd probably agree with the five eight

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Speaker 2: inside the bubble all right, and on especially.

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Speaker 4: The one in the top left corner there.

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Speaker 1: That Penn State Ohio State game is gonna be won

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Speaker 1: for the ages. That is going to be crazy. Great,

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Speaker 1: see anybody, all right, Thanks calling